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untold notch
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tbh I would start my corruption arc if I lost at Mario party bad enough

uncut pond
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Sky: Ponies of the Light

lusty merlin
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Alicorn cuz op and chosen one so true

raw crypt
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SO TRUE

rigid mural
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manticore, half man, half horse and half crab

untold notch
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. half of each?

frigid tinsel
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Crab Whisperer he/him princess

lusty merlin
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REAL!!!

dull seal
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We deliver winged light up to the light over and over again. Why do they always return?? Did more lights fall whilst we were busy dying? Or did the same ones descend again?

rigid mural
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its all crab whisperer, carcinization

untold notch
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carcinizes you

rigid mural
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oh no im a crap

lusty merlin
winter monolith
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when we give winged light to the statues in eden are we saving other skykids? if that’s true then how are we reborn without being given wl? is it because of the figure we hug?

cold sparrow
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when we pick up winged lights, they have the shape of a skykid
so, it would be plausible that we're just returning the light to another skykid
and the figure we hug might indeed be our own light?

winter monolith
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oh maybe! i was under the impression that the figure we hug is something like megabird

frigid tinsel
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yes, we are giving winged light to petrified skykids to save them. presumably, another skykid has to give us winged light to save our petrified forms.
not sure who the white skid in limbo is.

winter monolith
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also i do remember someone saying that a dev said the skykids and winged light are closely related! not sure if im remembering right

winter monolith
slate saffron
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I want to maul that one crab spirit funky man whose name I don't remember

How might I go about doing this in a lore-accurate manner?

untold notch
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I have zero idea who you're talking about

keen shore
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Are we talking about pleaful parent, crab whisperer, or crab walker? I support mauling none of them

untold notch
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they would maul you back

slate saffron
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Very likely, but that's besides the point

My teeth desire to consume spirit flesh, how may I do this lore-wise?

native shoal
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Well they’re intangible you literally can’t

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However if you were to go back to when they were alive

keen shore
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Spirits are tangible since we can hug them. You could totally bite a spirit if you so desired, you’d just have to make it a sneak attack, since it seems like they can control if they’re tangible or not

compact shale
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It's simple
You take out a chunk mid-hug

keen shore
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Like they make themselves tangible to hug you or do things so you’d have to go in for a hug and then chomp. However, the idea of this betrayal makes me very sad, and so if someone did it I would have to intervene

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They’re the 4th chosen one? What happened to the other 3?

slate saffron
rigid mural
keen shore
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Crab whisperer became greedy started a corruption and KILLED them all

compact shale
slate saffron
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I see, highly informative. I shall use this information to the fullest. Have a wonderful evening Fruitzie.

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Or daying

untold notch
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crab whisperer is also 3 halves of things

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they're cool like thag

lapis plover
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Is the Tom Zhao concept art considered canon lore? Several of the concepts are hinted at in-game, but nothing is explicitly confirmed or denied in-game

keen shore
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No, it’s not. Some stuff might have carried over, but unfortunately there’s a persistent problem of people valuing it on the same level as confirmed canon lore, which isn’t true.

lapis plover
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That's what I figured, but thanks for confirming!

keen shore
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No worries!

fallow spruce
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I hope this is a good chat to ask this. Do we have any further information on the 3 special masks that help with Krill, etc?

tepid veldt
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the elder masks? iirc some (vela was the first i remember talking abt it) have theorized that the elders have been regaining their strength thanks to our light, and are finally powerful enough to give us them. unsure tho

fallow spruce
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Yes

native shoal
tepid veldt
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aghhh again i cant remember who said this but the elders’ biggest wish/goal was to help their people above all. suddenly, they arent able to do the one thing they want to do most. seeing us take care of all their people and then finally themselves causes them to give back in return? just an idea SkyThink
anyways sleepy time. gnight lorechst

plush light
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whats the next upcoming season?

rigid mural
undone shore
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anyone know what the shadows in the fire trial are?? i assumed like some form of a krill or something

frigid tinsel
brisk python
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people call them owls, but i can't stop thinking about them being some weird backrooms entity-

random token
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Okay just to remind myself. The GW warriors were fighting each other in the aurora concert right? I just didn't get a good screenshot. And mantas were on the good side

frigid tinsel
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battle at battlefield so chaos and disorganized, hard to tell what side was fighting what, if any

undone shore
remote skiff
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i'm wondering if it's more than coincidence that one of the two shield types seen in the GW battlefield have the same sun symbol as the docks in the prairie villages (shipwright isle). coup d'tat led by prairie folk? esp given the season of flight guide was an apprentice of the prairie elder? pThink

junior mesa
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i rewatched the concert today and i am pretty convinced by the theory that the ancestors got overzealous with technology which lead to the downfall
there was a lot of destructive blue light raining down. i am guessing these are memories of the war. and if you get too close to the opening in the clouds in the first half of the song, you are temporarily drained of light. also, during the intense parts of the song there is some darkness that leaked up through the clouds which also drain your light, which i am assuming is due to the battle that is happening below the clouds (which you can sort of catch a glimpse of depending on your angle). i didnt catch any good screenshots but maybe i'll go back through later and see if i can
also. the song "the seed" itself kind of a 'battle song' of sorts against the overuse of technology. which fits thematically with what seemed to have happened in the golden wasteland.

mortal tide
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Why were the mantas in cages during the concert storytelling stuff ._. I think the sky dudes dug their own graves and and made their world doo doo and from the battle in the wasteland I deduced there were 2 sides but the mantas did nothing wrong 。゚(゚´Д`゚)゚。

junior mesa
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full disclosure these are just my theories based on what limited info i know since i am VERY new to lore chat
but anyways. i'm still trying to piece that aspect together. my theory is that this concert was, in a way, telling us the story of the ancestors?
so i think that during the song that we see the capturing of the creatures of light (warrior) was when the ancestors started to get a little too overzealous about their technology and maybe were harvesting creatures of light for the technology.
alternatively, most of the capturing was occurring during warrior, and the following song was the seed, so maybe all the capturing of those creatures of life was actually war prep? who knows !
ofc other lorechat members are free to pop in with their own theories or correct me. i am just having a good time trying to make sense of the game's lore for now lol

random token
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I agree with some of naty theory I just needed a reminder bc I found it incredibly sad.

frigid tinsel
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you're like almost completely on the mark for stuff that has a lot of evidence for though I wanna point out this:

my theory is that this concert was, in a way, telling us the story of the ancestors?
consider that all the spirit memories we have experience up to this point have been an ancestor's spirit memories. we are on the same level of the ancestors, on the ground, following their footsteps even if the ground they walked on has collapsed. however during the concert, we embody creatures – fish, butterflies, mantas, birds.

we are not seeing ancestor memories during the concert, we are seeing memories of light creatures. yes, there are ancestors in the concert, but we don't see their perspective, we don't follow their footsteps. most of the time, we fly above them, getting a bird's eyes view (literally and figuratively) of moments in the kingdom's time. we are the jellyfish miners chased away. we are the mantas ancestors captured. we are the butterflies fluttering over their bodies.

Aurora herself and much of her music align with environmentalist themes – to protect nature, to bond with nature. the ancestors pillaged and polluted their environment to advance their civilization, they "took the light from the wind" until there are little light left and they fought over what remained. we know that from the ancestor spirit memories and the ruins they left behind. in the concert, we see not from the ancestors (or human) perspective, but we see from nature's perspective in order to empathise with the creatures and their land who were pillaged and polluted.

untold notch
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gods know people are calling aurora a sad season but i feel like that kind of misses the theme ive found which is finding hope in the sadness, in the dark times, and in rising up out of them

the fierceness of hope will always and forever get me right in the heart and so im very emotional about this season

dark hull
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Hi lorechat
I've been wondering what's up with those explosive cyan lights in the wasteland section of the Aurora concert, thoughts?

untold notch
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one theory ive seen is that it's the elder(s) of the valley sending cyan light (air) into the wasteland to block it and the war off from valley's then prosperous cities

frigid tinsel
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the Cave of Prophecies murals depict Sunset receiving cyan light, so they are presumed to have air powers of some kind. there's a thought that Sunset created one or more vortexes between their realm and Wasteland to keep the pollution and/or krills from infecting their realm. the Seed of Hope section of the concert may be depicting that.

bitter pond
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why is windpath the only map that has connection to all the other maps?

untold notch
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they're cool like that

junior mesa
# frigid tinsel you're like almost completely on the mark for stuff that has a lot of evidence f...

oh my gosh this makes so much sense :0 i hadn't thought of it that way!
but to add to that, then the quests leading up to the concert were from the perspective of the ancestors, since we followed the actual memories as our sky kids
and so during the concert we then see the perspective of the creatures of light, who were caught in the crossfire
in a way we got both sides of the story
we got the real time experiences of a select few ancestors, and then the aerial view of the story overall from the perspective of the creatures of light during the concert
which makes the story tie itself together nicely

rigid mural
junior mesa
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yeah i noticed that too! i panicked the first time i lost my light because i thought i broke the concert 💀i wasnt expecting violence lmaooo

rigid mural
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Thinking about Eden and how that beam of red light appears specifically after you die as a bird...

untold notch
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hello The Seed
darkness
ok

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wait vela werent you suppsoed to be asleep

copper saffron
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how are yall handling aurora in ur fanfics and such?

brisk python
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GOD the seed in the concert really gets my mind flowing as to what the heck was going on

abstract shard
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They must've been the settlers

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And there was a skykid with them

wicked prairie
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it's interesting that just 1st song is in skykid perspective where they showed us pollution/corruption and the rest is in the perspective of the creatures as alasdair said

vernal willow
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Hello! I have a question. Did skykids exist when the ancestors existed or did they start appearing after the fall of the sky kingdom?

wicked prairie
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i think one sky kid existed with the ancestors, the one from the switch trailer and animation teaser? i might be wrong tho

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i think that's also the kid that they found in one of the spirit memories in isle. i forgot what the name of the spirit was

vernal willow
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I think it's Alef

lusty merlin
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Thats a concept art name as a reminder not the offical namestickerLove

vernal willow
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oooh, didn't know thatpWow

lusty merlin
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Yeah names like Daleth,Ayin,Teth,Samekh,Tsadi,Lamed,Resh and Álef are strictly concept art names, and I remember ktjn explaining they’re not used anymore

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only reason i use them sometimes is that's how i was introduced and they just stuck, but alot of members in lc tend to refer to the elders by time and day (most of them)stickerLove Dawn,Day,Rain,Sunset,Dusk,Night (Storm is a lc name hc if I recall same for chosen one which a lot of folks tend to also like)

lusty merlin
# wicked prairie i think one sky kid existed with the ancestors, the one from the switch trailer ...

Based on the intro I’d say it implies the majority of skykids came after. Besides the one skykid in stargazers momory. And what caelus said about the possibly of a child being a skykid in the animation teaser but it’s still uncertain. Could argue the child in wayfarers song is a skykid but I think it’s just wayfarer as a child. Just to keep the theme consistent of the aurora spirits appearing in their memory, it would be weird if that pattern was ignored till the 2nd song

lusty merlin
wicked prairie
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it's oki! aaa cant wait for more of the animation stuff it looks amazing and more LORE stickerShiny

vernal willow
deft compass
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Hello lore fam!
How do we feel after season of shattering + Aurora? SkyThink

rigid iron
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Withered

lean kayak
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Hungry for more stickerYum stickerShiny

winged shard
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I feel like I don't acknowledge how sad Sky actually can be
I mean, from the moment we're brought into this world it's a sad and desolate area with no people other than the other sky kids. Our entire existence is to save a world we barely know anything about and in order to do that we also have to die over and over and over again and we have to keep getting reborn each time. Knowing what I know about Sky now, the isle of dawn is such an oddly terrifying place for me... The emptiness is what always disturbs me, especially knowing that place was probably once filled with life

hushed steeple
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IS A HOTDOG A SANDWICH

cold sparrow
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I'm not sure how much the Isle of Dawn was actually a living place before. We don't see a lot of homes and buildings as in other areas. I think, especially looking at the story you see in Runaway, the Isle is more of a place where pilgrimages start or traversed through. A place where you land with your boat, then try to catch a flying one to reach one of the (remaining?) safe havens.

timber moth
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Are these spirits alive or tgc just put em for no reason?

rigid mural
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They're hanging out :]
I like to think it's to take care of the music shop so the skykids aren't alone.

tepid veldt
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them cLight

ebon burrow
tepid veldt
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cant stop thinking about the flight blorbos
chimesmith: your extremely cool and queer uncle
light whisperer: close friend, shy, but will geek about something they enjoy
lively navigator: older sibling by a mile. you dont fight, they take you to work sometimes, and totally steal random stuff from said work
talented builder: friends with chimesmith since they were young. probably also very gay. i need help with this one i dont know SkyBackflip

lean kayak
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Man i cant wait for the animation movie lhlhflhc

sacred python
soft fable
tepid veldt
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thank you! next time please dont ping me SkyPray

keen shore
# ebon burrow if the animated teaser is canon (is it? idk i'm new here), then isle used to hav...

The animation teaser is canon from what we can tell, as it shows a bunch of ingame locations and even two spirits we can recognize! [The switch trailer is debatably canon, though].

There’s a common theory that Isle ancestors lived a nomadic lifestyle, hence why they live mostly in natural-made caves or temporary homes, and why titles like ‘voyager’ are common for the spirits there. Unfortunately, that would mean they also didn’t leave a lot of ruins behind, making Isle look even more desolate in their absence

tepid veldt
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can i ask why the switch trailer is debatably canon? what points to it potentially not being?

keen shore
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I’m glad you asked! Be right back I’m gonna grab some images to show you

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The easiest comparison between the two can be found here. First image is from the switch trailer, second is from the animation teaser. They’re of the same area in green Isle of Dawn.

A lot of differences are immediately obvious; some are probably just due to the weather or place in the timeline (amount of clouds, tent locations, trees). HOWEVER, there is one major difference, and those are the mountains. How different they look isn’t something that can be explained by perspective or weather, or even time.

You can also notice that in the animation teaser, Isle looks a lot more like how it does in game. The rock formations are the exact same, the cliffs are familiar; you can even pick out Candlemaker’s cave hidden behind a tent awning if you look close enough. This theme actually shows throughout the teaser a lot; two ancestors that are present are immediately identifiable as rejecting voyager and ushering stargazer, and I have a personal theory that some prophecy students showed up as well.

It’s my belief that while the switch trailer focused on going absolutely wild with what they could do with the world, including not thinking about things like the geographical logistics of the paths the main characters took, the animation teaser is the result of a pretty quick realization that if they made Isle and its ancestors much more immediately recognizable it would hit the audience harder emotionally. It also seems like it’s telling a fairly lore significant story from what we know so far, meaning it fitting into the world easily would be more important than it was for the switch trailer. Unfortunately, this also means that the switch trailer isn’t as reliable of a source when it comes to figuring out canon, hence why I phrased it like that

keen shore
tepid veldt
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honestly lorechat flipped my persepctive of sky on its head in so many different ways, glad it did, i feel a lot more informed SkyRally

keen shore
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Same! It makes the game a lot more enjoyable

keen shore
tepid veldt
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still havent made time to watch all the stagehand performance guide interactions this is a crime

timber moth
keen shore
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Not really! We free them, we take them to the temples to ascend, and then afterwards they can come back for any length of time in the realms. The place they go when they ascend (the Light) can be left or rejoined at any time if they desired, like how we leave it to be reborn, but they’re still spirits.

sick sparrow
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I don’t know if anyone has said this yet but during the war scene in the aurora concert it looks like it’s the people of the ancestors against the kings guards, who suit sharp and larger frames than the ancestors. Maybe the people in the kingdom realized how corrupt the king was and tried to over throw him

lusty merlin
hushed steeple
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What if Corrupted Skykids attack other creatures and wildlife because they have Light and the Corrupted doesn't?

frigid tinsel
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corrupted skykids aren't canon, though you could do whatever in your own verse. in my ficverse, they do. I liken them to small intelligent krill

hushed steeple
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$1 USD is worth 3 candles
One candle is worth $0.33 USD

discuss

eternal totem
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I thought they retired the 3 candle pack ages ago, also what does this mean

raw crypt
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sounds like a good deal at bath and bodyworks

lusty merlin
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eat the soap foam

tepid veldt
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yum

untold notch
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they banned me from the bed bath and body works on account of I ate all of those bath bombs they have

frigid tinsel
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you ate Shushing Light Scholar??????

untold notch
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the only time they've ever been involved with eating

raw crypt
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YOU ATE—-

banned forever

keen shore
past night
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ok I’m in an argument with someone rn and uhhh I need input

is the season of aurora cannon in sky?

react OreoYes or OreoNo

pastel brookBOT
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just like the moth I don't know where to go

frigid tinsel
untold notch
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the spirits and their stories are definitely canon at the very least

remote skiff
keen shore
remote skiff
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yeah the hard part is telling if certain things are canon or just artistic liberties -- like the bird/manta turning into darkness plants during "inhale exhale"

though that does line up with burning the darkness to free the manta (spirit?) in the last abyss quest

earnest briar
untold notch
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true they don't really eat for the rest of their life

earnest briar
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Granny out here making such filling food Shush doesn't ever need to eat again. good on her

jolly fulcrum
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What does anybody think winged lights are?
They are like sky kids, but what are they? cLight

untold notch
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they're called Lost Memories in the most recent version of the intro to the game so probably that

frigid tinsel
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I think of them as imprints of skykids, carrying aspecs of their memories

native shoal
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I have my own take on wl, I think that they’re like what alasdair said but mine are specifically the imprint of many skids who have all passed through an area

jolly fulcrum
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Is that why we return them to the sky kids in eden who have been caught?

frigid tinsel
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It’s light to ascend them, so yea

jolly fulcrum
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But we die in Eden.

Do we have a personal lost memory then? SkyLOL

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We are no better than the others who have fallen

spring python
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There’s not much to really give a verdict, I personally believe it’s not fully intact but it’s still there since the ancestors bless us with their light before we are reborn, so we still maintain a few things (maybe what they give us has to do with memories we made around them)

faint quail
faint quail
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Also seeing the butterflies turn into sky kid spirits has me hearteyescrytime hearteyescrytime hearteyescrytime hearteyescrytime hearteyescrytime hearteyescrytime and it makes the sounds the butterflies make even cuter

native shoal
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My headcanon is the WL imprints are just tangles of very strong light that accumulate over time from skids being around an area

faint quail
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Oh also something to keep in mind! According to pre-Hispanic folklore, the migrating butterflies carried the souls of ancestors visiting from the afterlife. Which I think Sky has implemented into the story (see part in the concert where the butterflies turned into souls)

static vessel
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I’m wondering what this dubious creature is

keen shore
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That’s Oreo!

spring python
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A noble steed

static vessel
topaz minnow
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LOL

viral palm
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Dubious little creature who is up to no good

shrewd trout
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Idk if this is the place to talk about spirit shenanigans but headcanon that the belonging parents are siblings and not a married couple (boogie and confetti are sparkler parent's kids while hairtousle is pleaful's)

tepid veldt
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absolutely the place to talk about spirit shenanigans i do it all the time SkyTada

round parrot
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Hehe Hairtousle only child

last flare
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Hello guys, does aurora is in the painting? the queen of Eden?

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i've finished the season event and i've find out the theory that Aurora is all known Queen of Eden

Its my theory tho😅

untold notch
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another quarter for the jar

faint quail
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God is a woman and her name is Aurora 😂

white merlin
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Ok here’s an idea

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So you know how skykids just keep going back to Eden, dying, and getting reborn? What’s the point of that? What if skykids aren’t going to free other skykids, they’re going to give light to the eden crystal

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Think about it, our light has been shown to have restorative properties. And the eden crystal in the game has only CRACKED and it caused a mass extinction. Imagine what would happen if it fully shattered.

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So: the powers that be in the sky world, Aurora? Elders? Something else? Needed to prevent that to save what’s left. So they create the skykids to gather light and get it to eden

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We aren’t supposed to be saving the skykids that come before us, that’s just an extra perk. We’re supposed to be preventing the crystal from shattering fully. And as shown in the season of shattering, it’s not a complete fix

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So after we die in Eden, the next skykids come and free us so we can be reborn. Once we’re reborn, we go do the exact same thing to the ones that freed us

frigid tinsel
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given Season of Shattering, I think the Eden diamond already shattered

white merlin
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Maybe. But the most damage we see ingame is a chip and a large crack

median cape
untold notch
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are you going to explain this image you've posted with no context or

median cape
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i found it on the concept artist’s website

white merlin
# median cape

Yeah this doesn’t really hold up anymore. But the basis of light creatures and dark stone still might

median cape
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I guess orbit was some sort of deity?

untold notch
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orbit is a place

frigid tinsel
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reminder that concept art is concept, not canon

keen shore
untold notch
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that's fair

frigid tinsel
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I see Orbit as the surface of the Light. skykids cannot enter the Light like mesh among all those ascended beings but Orbit still counts as the Light

past night
frigid tinsel
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the Light itself is a conglomerate of all ascended beings of light. Megabird, depending on your interpretation, is a manifestation of the Light, so arguably Orbit is part of a deity if you see Megabird as a deity.

median cape
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I’m glad they solidified the conflict between the creatures and the people

keen shore
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I don’t think that bit is canon, at least not in the way this timeline depicts it. Creatures were killed for darkstone production, but the mantas in the seed section of the concert are likely war mantas; you can clearly see the ancestors attacking each other both there and in seed of hope’s quest.

frigid tinsel
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yea, as the Aurora concert showed, it doesn't look like it was ancestors vs light creatures but ancestors exploiting light creatures like resources.

median cape
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Does anyone know just how canon the king is? Like, I know he appears in the architecture and stuff, but it seems kinda shaky.

keen shore
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Someone similar to their position is canon, but from what we can tell they were not anything like the king from concept art is described to be ^^

frigid tinsel
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definitely not one with an antagonistic character

opaque spindle
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does anyone know like the actual verified lore of the game or where i can find it?

frigid tinsel
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

junior mesa
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it's in our brains. we make it up a we go and piece things together. everything is a theory lol

untold notch
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there is some lore just not a lot

white junco
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there is lore but there’s not really “actual verified lore” since the game doesn’t tell us things with words

frigid tinsel
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literally the Isle intro text is the best we got and they change that once a year

rigid mural
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Current one is nice imo tho

ebon burrow
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They change the intro text???

untold notch
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occasionally - most people don't notice because they always just speed through the intro cave, and because some of the changes only are noticeable on a first run through

rigid mural
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They didn't change it yet in my language so I have to trust you guys with that SkyLOL

keen shore
# rigid mural Current one is nice imo tho

The current one is my favorite; I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the final version! Hoping I get to talk about it more; it has a lot of interesting aspects.

I can grab the transcript if necessary for anyone

wicked prairie
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oooh can i pls see what they changed with the intro?

keen shore
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Yeah! Do you want to see the newest one, the one just before thwt or hoth?

wicked prairie
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both pls! SkyBow

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oh and do u have the date or season when they changed it?

keen shore
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Have to send them as pictures because of technical difficulties sending them as textwalls, but here you go. First picture is the old one, second is the new; they were changed Nov 29 2022

wicked prairie
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the date they changed the intro is very recent i thought it will be like back in 2021 😯 thank you!!

keen shore
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It’s been changed multiple times! Unfortunately I don’t have the transcript of the one before these two, but it was fairly similar to the first one posted here

little sequoia
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Is the door back to life the mega bird's back entrance? Inquiring minds need to know

keen shore
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It can be if you want it to be

frigid tinsel
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bruh

keen shore
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I will neither confirm nor deny this information

untold notch
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I worry about why you would want or need to know this

little sequoia
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It just reminded me of a jumping house shaped like a dragon i went into as a kid

keen shore
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ohhhhh we thought you meant something else sorry

raw crypt
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ohh that’s neat!!

untold notch
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we've seen some things very sorry for the rudeness

little sequoia
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That bad?

lusty merlin
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oh yeah

untold notch
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yeah... instead I will think about bouncy castle orbit

little sequoia
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I'm still just trying to figure out what the megabird is and how do we come from there

lusty merlin
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could be a case that they've always existed, dont know how or when but suddenly they were there and grew overtime, big bang theory kind of stuff

frigid tinsel
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Megabird is the proverbial god of Sky, presumably analogous with the Light, which is a big mass of light composed of ascended beings of light. anything else is really up to your interpretation, but many consider Megabird = the Light to some capacity.

I see the Light as a hivemind and Megabird as the Light's consciousness, given power by all that intelligent light within Them, thus able to direct things regarding light

little sequoia
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The way some are describing it makes me think of the Sikh concept of God where it's an entity made up of everyone

snow cosmos
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popping in very briefly to give a quick description of how i see Megabird!

in the post-Orbit credits, we see the camera zoom out on our planet, our solar system, further and further until all the stars form the shape of a bird - this is our galaxy, and this is Megabird's physical form, such as it is. i think Megabird as an individual is the collective consciousness of all those stars, all that Light - in that way, Megabird is everyone, and everyone has part of Megabird within them

little sequoia
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Oooh that's beautiful, that's what I get for skipping

frigid tinsel
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Megabird after the credits

little sequoia
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Saving that

untold notch
keen shore
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[slurp]

little sequoia
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Does Aurora fit into the lore as a deity and how?

frigid tinsel
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Aurora is a real person so I don't think her self-insert is canon in-universe

untold notch
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the spirits definitely are canon

snow cosmos
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within my imagination normal Aurora is just an ancestor with a whole lot of light inside (this is why she's white - so much light it shines through her skin)

fast juniper
frigid tinsel
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yes, that's Megabird. please don't ping me, it's my name

untold notch
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it is still funny to me that the crossover seasons are the only instance of white people in sky

little sequoia
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Can someone do a quick comparison of little prince and Aurora vs other spirits?

normal relic
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One of the Christmas NPCs at the office mentioned something about a new area in prairie where the elders can be found...where is this place?

untold notch
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do you remember exactly what the npc said?

little sequoia
normal relic
untold notch
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I actually have my own picture of this! it's probably talking about the idle wax area in the prairie caves

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thank you past astral for also being intrigued by this

little sequoia
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And from what I remember stretching guru is also in that cave system, correct?

untold notch
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I think so? I think they are

normal relic
untold notch
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it's not a very new area (I think) so idk why they're saying it is

normal relic
untold notch
white swan
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Is there any lore related to season of aurora?

untold notch
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the spirit stories are definitely canon to whatever story sky is telling

normal relic
untold notch
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that's a quarter in the jar

frigid tinsel
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Given Aurora is a real person, I doubt her self-insert is canon

flint bolt
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hey lore chat.

uh

female krill?

vast tendon
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This is a genuine question. I need an answer desperately and I am sweating profusely in my chair because I don't know the answer to this question my girlfriend just asked me. My girlfriend, who has not played even an hour of Sky:COTL, or has passed IoD.

I quote her directly: "Are the sky children made of wax?"

little sequoia
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We are made of light, ancestor spirit, and beast spirit

flint bolt
little sequoia
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There's a theory that we have light gems inside of us similar to the gates and that's how we activate our candles, plus when you're losing wings you see a gem lose it's light

lusty merlin
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I personally just think they’re made of light that’s in a shell. given when we die in eden, we have a blue spark similar to ancestors, and when you light an ancestor well, light comes from the cracks

flint bolt
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maybe...

...we are all just fancy glowing lamps

icy pewter
lusty merlin
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Oh yeah that can work!

runic grail
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I like to think of lore that’s found in concept art and such as legends within the world itself
So stories regarding an “Alef” have been passed down by some but it is just legend so it can be proven false at a later point

Doesn’t make any real difference in reality, it’s just framing dubious canonicity through a diagetic lens and lets some aspects not be completely discarded while firmly distinguishing them from more veritable lore

cold sparrow
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the thing with concept art - speaking as an artist and learned game designer - is that there might be many things and ideas that come up during development that are being deliberately changed or discarded, because they maybe don't fit the aesthetic or intended purpose or world's lore that you established
even in-universe lore and stories have to be carefully crafted with intention. like, the paintings we see in caves are the legends of that world, and for all we know, they might be from an unreliable narrator and not be 'true' or accurate but they are stories and legends that exist in the sky world.

stories from concept art are not. (though you may headcanon them that way, certainly)

floral skiff
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What is the giant diamond in the last part of Eden?

ebon burrow
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assuming the diamond is a solid entity, probably the same thing as in the ||final memory of the shattering shard that blew the elders away||
though it also looks like the diamond shaped space we fly through ||after we die in eden|| sooooo idk

tepid veldt
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it is now tsadi tuesday

untold notch
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first tsadi Tuesday of the year!

frigid tinsel
lusty merlin
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FIRST TSADI TUESDAY OF 2023!!!!

flint bolt
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Secret sky lore:

||aSkyRoll||

soft timber
raw crypt
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One of botanists hints is they like sour foods and pioneer also likes sour candy, runs in the family

team bigman representatives

tepid veldt
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team big man :D
slink do you play splatoon?

raw crypt
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Yes I do! :]

tepid veldt
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are you also team sour :0

untold notch
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sour gang rise up!!! we will lose to sweet and that's ok

tepid veldt
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pssst are you two open to switch friend requests?

quick jasper
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team sour ftw (we will all lose but it's okay)

tepid veldt
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omg so many team sourlings

quick jasper
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sour is good YesYes

eternal totem
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Based sour ☝️

untold notch
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Nintendo summoning 5,000 unnamed transmascs to vote team sour

rigid mural
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it's the pickles isn't it

untold notch
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I don't even like pickles

quick jasper
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it's the lime chips for me

untold notch
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it's the sour Skittles for me

frigid tinsel
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sour skittles, sour straws

spring python
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My lips r too dry for sour food

frigid tinsel
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Skill issue

eternal totem
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Sour gummies

quick jasper
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the perks of liking sour food:
most people don't want your food and you get to keep it

spring python
white heart
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sour gummi watermelons tho

pastel brookBOT
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i was dreaming of this!

uneven crow
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What aesthetic/culture/anything is Season of Flight based on? I love it so much... pWow

untold notch
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cool and epic people aesthetic

tepid veldt
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they are just the bestest

frigid tinsel
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Inuit and indigenous Siberian

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there's also some central Asian influences. granted, none of these are confirmed, but the similarities have been noted before

gaunt jacinth
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Okay question..
What do we know.. about eden?
Edens past? Cuz some murals depict it as light..?
Why does darkness seem to come from eden then?
And what are dark dragons?

Also... the war seen in aurora season...

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Tho this is probably what everyone wants to know...

tepid veldt
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some people theorize that eden was originally a beacon/light source, but something happened and it corrupted

#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Alasdair explains it a lot better than i just did in the last two paragraphs of this ^^
actually that entire message is super helpful

frigid tinsel
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you're welcome SkyWave
next time please don't ping me tho

gaunt jacinth
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That answers so many questions..

gaunt jacinth
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Omg.. so much makes sooo much more sense..

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And i guessed like half the lore semi correctly in my short 3 months of playing.. xD

But i had alot to take in with past seasons so i could peice together more quickly then ppl who were fed breadcrumbs all these years...

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Am super hooked.

native shoal
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Man I miss flight, this might just be Moth Season Nostalgia but it was nice being able to hug the season guide after the darkness leeched in

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Plus my favorite cosmetics are from that season

dawn plank
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So I just completed the Trials. And the last mural is interesting. It seems to depict the locals almost worshipping the very first skykid of light who completed all 4.

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Maybe rather than seeing the child pass away and continue the cycle of reincarnation the Elders tried to harness/trap the skykid in the giant power diamond only for it to shatter and cause the devastation that we see now

vernal willow
keen shore
rigid mural
slate saffron
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Mr sandman

Bring me a drink

untold notch
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make it the wettest that i've ever drank

winter monolith
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who could this mural be of? it feels like aurora to me but i’m not well versed enough in the lore to make that my theory

pastel brookBOT
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just like the moth I don't know where to go

lusty merlin
untold notch
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the performance troupe is made of aurora stans

tepid veldt
keen shore
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Upon hearing about Dusk getting stabbed, the Performance troupe’s only comment was “if they had streamed Aurora this wouldn’t have happened”

compact shale
# tepid veldt mellow musician plays her songs 25/8

I had this plan for a fic where it basically went

Warrior of Love: Hey racebuds wanna worship aurora
Backflipping Champion: Lmao no ask the theater kids
Warrior of Love: Hey theater penguins wanna worship AURORA
Performance Troupe: hell yes

keen shore
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Why would you worship Aurora? Do you worship famous singers or something?

frigid tinsel
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Some do. Celebrity worship is wild

keen shore
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Yeah, I just wouldn’t understand it if it’s from the members of the same troupe

spring python
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Careful before you summon the Harry Stilettos

keen shore
celest spoke
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Aurorabird

keen shore
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Hm?

winter monolith
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tbh i would love aurora to be canon to the lore from a character standpoint bc her presence in the game is interesting (i love especially her giant form). but bc she’s a real person, it doesn’t make sense for her to be canon in a story that is so unique and separated from the real world

junior mesa
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i think that if you want your version of the very handwavy lore to include "aurora" you totally could

pastel brookBOT
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just like the moth I don't know where to go

untold notch
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handwavey?

winter monolith
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oh yeah if anyone wants aurora to be a part of their version of lore go for it! she has a lot of potential for cool hcs stickerLove i just personally have a hard time seeing her as a character bc she’s real lol

frigid tinsel
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I just doubt she's a god. I don't think TGC would shoehorn a whole new deity based on a real person into the lore out of nowhere

winter monolith
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if she actually WAS a character in the game then i think it’d be cool if she was a skykid like us! bc that’s what the players are cHeart tho it wouldn’t make sense bc of everything she does in the concert SkyShrug

untold notch
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and also because she's white

winter monolith
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true!

junior mesa
# untold notch handwavey?

the lore isnt set in stone. most of it is fan theories! so if your personal fan theory includes aurora in it then thats totally chill and valid, just like someone who doesnt include her is also chill and valid. thats just my take tho

untold notch
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ah I see I think I misunderstood what you meant at first

junior mesa
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i'm still on the fence about it because aurora is a real person but i like to think that maybe an aurora-like figure is telling us these stories through song the same way a lot of parents/grandparents like,,, set kids down and tell them stories of their time or teach them cultural songs. and maybe some of it is just visual metaphor, especially the end part where she becomes large lol.

untold notch
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even if Aurora as a character/person isn't canon the stories she's telling are, I think

frigid tinsel
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I sorta see Aurora as a vessel for the story she's telling the skykids.

winter monolith
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yeah i’m pretty sure on the last day of the season the game said “listen to sky’s history” or something like that

junior mesa
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new fun fan theory: aurora is the voice of the megabird. thats it thats the theory. i have no evidence to support this its fun to think about

winter monolith
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i’m like i HAVE to be lore accurate but sometimes things are cool and don’t make sense and that’s fun

untold notch
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sometimes we get silly in chat and that can be as fun if not more fun that being serious about it

winter monolith
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u are so right

junior mesa
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the megabird is a white woman with jellyfish hair /j

celest spoke
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I am suddenly envisioning an alternate version ofThe Little Prince as The Mega Prince and seeing his spectral form towering above us…. terrifying

junior mesa
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that reminds me i heard theres a special area that came from season of little prince and i really wanna see it 😭 the little prince questline made me cry it was so pleasant. i wish i'd been there when it happened

celest spoke
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The asteroid belt is nice to see but there isn’t really anything to do there

frozen pivot
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frog

neon copper
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phrog

rigid mural
tacit coral
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One of the thing that I just realized in the lore of AURORA is that in Through The Eyes of a Child, the spirits in that song aren't 'spirits', but they are all statues. It's actually really odd cuz throughout the whole concert, all spirits are in there 'spirits' form except in this part.

halcyon hull
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does anyone know why in this image skykid have these horns? Or whatever is it

little sequoia
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When we were doing season of shattering the krill memory was supposed to be the last so I think that krills come from the big gem shattering

lusty merlin
lusty merlin
little sequoia
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An announcement was made about it that the krill was supposed to be the last one

lusty merlin
eternal totem
uncut pond
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Iirc, back when the last quest was still being tested in beta the devs explicitly said the elders memory was the final quest

lost wing
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Are darkens plants carnivorous? Because they seem to trap/target creatures of light a lot.

uncut pond
frigid tinsel
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Light flesh

lusty merlin
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Juice

tepid veldt
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light juice

untold notch
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like a cactus

keen shore
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Absorbing the SOUP

rigid mural
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Unironically imagining light creatures being like these but with light

keen shore
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That makes a lot of sense actually, especially for jellyfish

keen shore
open bridge
spring python
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The icon might have been kept from older versions, some sky kids had masks with really pointy ends, looking like horns, back in some of the initial concept arts

open bridge
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Or, they're not horns but antenna

keen shore
keen shore
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Probably not! She is a real person, and it would be weird if she was shoehorned in while never having been referenced before in the world. It’s much more likely she’s kind of like a voice actor, filling the role of something else

snow loom
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Besides, I don’t think the collab seasons are canon anyways

keen shore
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They are actually!

lusty merlin
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I dont think aurora herself is cannon fully but i definitely think the stories she sings are

snow loom
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Oh weird, wonder where I heard that from

frigid tinsel
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Usually crossovers aren’t considered canon due to shoehorning but the devs really worked well to integrate other media into the Sky universe so it would be almost disrespectful to outright dismiss every collab season as not canon

snow loom
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That’s a good point, I have to agree there

lusty merlin
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to me anything can be lore, like even small things, it helps with world building imo. Warrior of loves quest showed entertainment in valley with manta races every when they were being captured. Things like that can be lore, doesn’t just have to big events like the war, though of corse that’s important too

Heck we learn about the history of how food was modified because we find it interesting, wouldn’t even eat bananas a thousand years ago yet now we can, small things can help enrich the world is what I’m trying to say

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Same for shattering, a lot of people like to argue it’s not lore but like? We got a look of what the explosion could’ve been liked on a smaller scale. And while I don’t agree the poems should be social media only, they give insight to how plenty sky creatures were before the decline when eden exploded, and the last memory with the elders like??? And folks still say there’s no lore

junior mesa
spring python
lusty merlin
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Oh yeah wasn’t she the vocals for the orbit ascent song? Plus it plays during the concert transition before mindfuls song with our skykids singing in harmony so it wasn’t as sparattic decision to ask a singer to make a collab season on the fly

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Ik the mural in harmony hall is a marketing hint but I love the fact the Preformance crew are cannon aurora stansSkyLOL

spring python
austere bridge
indigo mist
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I am new to this game, is there a way to get a quick rundown of the lore? I don't really get everything that is going on in the story 😔

cold sparrow
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I think if anything, rather than some goddess or queen, Aurora is just as she is represented in the game - a singer and storyteller who takes us on journeys through magical visions and memories via her songs
I still think there is lore to be read from the memories we can visit, such as war and exploitation of light creatures, but I think how we see them have been filtered through legends and stories that have been passed on (inside the concert, quite literally from the spirits to Aurora, and from Aurora to us)

keen shore
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Same here! The ancestor and creature stories told in AURORA are really interesting; unfortunately from what we’ve been asked, it seems like most people are focusing on surface level “omg Aurora is a god?” takes which is a shame

pastel brookBOT
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thats REALLY deep fam

cold sparrow
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lmao

frigid tinsel
pastel brookBOT
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why are some crabs different colors?

frigid tinsel
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soil composition

untold notch
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because they can be

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crabs don't care what humans think (good for them unbothered icons)

opaque spindle
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crabs are different colors bc they are just silly lil guys

restive moth
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Crabs are different colors depending on how ripe they are

lethal delta
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is there anywhere i could read about the lore from beginning to end?

somber moss
untold notch
lethal delta
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i understand ty ^^

untold notch
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it does a really good job of reinforcing that ur just a person going through the remnants of a once proud civilization but it can be frustrating at times how little is given

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at least to me anyway but I might be biased

native shoal
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Yknow when I was watching the concert recording I was mostly getting megabird vibes from aurora in the songs, especially when she’d just turn into a light ball

floral elm
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Hi, does anyone have the big document of most likely canon lore + popular theories? I remember something like that when I was active here a few years ago, I belive it was pinned but it doesn't seem to be there now.

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I'm making a video about sky lore and it would be very useful to find agian

lost wing
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What are your theories on the statues we save in Eden? I’m trying to think of what the could be, but I’m not sure pThink

cold sparrow
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considering you meet a similar fate at the end when you run out of wing light, these statues are other burnt out skykids

stiff bear
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Do you ever wonder if there are Skykids that do not like hugs

untold notch
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me sometimes

stiff bear
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Skykids that hate hugs be like: endless honking until you go away

untold notch
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or they could just not accept it

shrewd zenith
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Does anybody know where I can find cutscene discriptions and texts?

keen shore
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It depends on the cutscene. I have a transcript of every splash text and the stuff you see when you first go into Isle, but that’s about it

uncut pond
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Does anyone here remember what the small "(?)" signs in the seasonal constellations were for? I couldn't finish the Aurora constellation (or any other season) in time to see for myself

untold notch
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those are just for 100% completion and do nothing iirc

uncut pond
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Iirc didn't those unlock a final cutscene in older seasons? Or was that only in Light Awaits?

untold notch
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yes, seasons like belonging I think. it's a remnant due to some spaghetti code

uncut pond
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Oh alright, thank you
I was just a bit afraid I might've missed something important

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Tho on second thought if there was a final 100% cutscene it would've been posted on here by now so my question was dumb

eternal totem
# uncut pond Iirc didn't those unlock a final cutscene in older seasons? Or was that only in ...

From Gratitude to Rhythm it was how you viewed the final cutscene (AP 100% only,) and before seasonal hearts were introduced you'd obtain the ultimate reward after watching the cutscene. It was then moved to seasonal quest lines starting Enchantment, so yeah it's just left over code, it's not a dumb question since it's not clear to many that it's only a congratulatory message for 100%

lusty merlin
unreal cypress
# somber moss Maybe because of the environment they are in? Like those crabs that seem to glow...

i just learned something SO COOL. so i realized in sanctuary islands when in the cave the crabs are white, but if I carry it outside it turns gray, then back in it goes white again. and that reminded me of something i learned about a cave salamander called the olm who lives it's entire life in complete darkness, but it's white/slightly pink skin retains the ability to produce melanin when exposed to light in a process called melanogenesis, where it will darken! The pigment in the animal's skin is photosensitive!!! And the crabs at least in sanctuary seem to be the same!!!!!!! (The science might not be exactly correct I just read wikipedia)

lusty merlin
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Ooo that’s super cool!

unreal cypress
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we do it too when we tan in the sun, im not sure if it's the same process or just similar

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so it's like the crabs are tanning really fast XD

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something else I noticed but not sure about, it seemed like in the cave on their own they had less little globs of darkness on them, but when I pick one up more appear?

frigid tinsel
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human skin tans and darkens thanks to melanocytes, cells that produce melanin, in order to protect ourselves against UV rays. long exposure to sunlight can make melanocytes produce more melanin but there are other triggers such as physical trauma (in fact, I experience hyperpigmentation, creating dark scars but some people experience hypopigmentation, creating lighter scars).

untold notch
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science!

frigid tinsel
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it's why people in hotter areas with more sunlight evolved to have darker skin while people in colder areas with less sunlight evolved to have lighter skin.
(btw don't ping me, says so in my name)

unreal cypress
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sorry, does ping mean reply or @?

untold notch
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Bill Nye was right science does rule

frigid tinsel
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ping is the @, you can still reply but make sure you turn off pings when you do

unreal cypress
unreal cypress
somber moss
untold notch
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in hide and seek cave yeah

languid gull
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Hello I just want to say that I notice that the sun in home space are bigger then the other realms

unreal cypress
rustic flare
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Brought it up in Eden chat, but what if the reason no player has yet to actually reach the giant glowing angry diamond at the center of the Eye of Eden, is because there's some sort of Chosen One-type shenanigans going on, and we'll end up finding out after 5 billion hours worth of lore digging/ARG/ect. who is the one to finally reach it and kick off the next major events of the game.

keen shore
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That would be really cool and I’d love it, but sadly I doubt it’s the case

unreal cypress
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the flashing color when exposed to heat, is it the same as the threat display? perhaps a generalized stress response?

rustic flare
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Likely set by the end to have one of the most active/top/ect. players be the one who gets to be immortalized as the one who finally touches it and gives us new lore/begins the likely extremely long process of slowly undoing the darkness.

untold notch
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maybe, however: the games themes

unreal cypress
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when im carrying a crab near other crabs in sanctuary, the other crabs don't attack, but the one I'm holding kind of explodes

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i can't think of an explanation for this

untold notch
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that might just be coding jank

frigid tinsel
keen shore
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Well now I’m curious; what do you think our purpose is?

untold notch
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to have fun and be silly

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maybe help clean up the ruins of an ancient civilization a bit but that's not important

tepid veldt
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i vote for the having fun and being silly more than cleaning up

frigid tinsel
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

rigid mural
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The intro does urge us to free the spirits, so imo skykids were sent there to find and free ancestors stuck in darkness, but are otherwise free to do as they please

untold notch
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like politely ignoring the laws of physics or having a nice meal

keen shore
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I do know that the first thing on our minds when we wake up is a memory of Eden, that repeats but slowly becomes less important as we continue through the realms… the camera also zooms in on Eden when describing the destiny we have to fulfill in the new intro.

I’m thinking either

  1. fixing or trying to fix Eden is our skykid’s main destiny and they’re doing the rest along the way
    or, my currently preferred option
  2. helping the spirits and elders are our skykid’s purpose, like Vela said, but something about Eden lures us towards trying to fix it as well even after we know doing so is useless
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The second option feels more right because, if we were sent down with a ‘purpose’, I’d think it would be the more easily achievable one that would save the most people and not the thing we have almost no chance of succeeding it. The intriguing aspect of this is wondering what exactly draws our skykid there so much and why it’s so important to us

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Of course, having a purpose and a destiny isn’t the same thing, and it’s possible our skykid has the second but not strictly the first ^^

rigid mural
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thinking about the crabs (and jellyfish ?) being lured in by light in the shattering poems, as well as sneezing geographer's books where light creatures rise around Eden when it shines bright...

keen shore
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I don’t know if it’s just that… as we get closer to the mountain, when it should be brighter and hypothetically draw us in more, it becomes less important to us. We stop thinking about it during every elder cutscene; instead, we focus on other things like the spirits and elders. Also, if it were just us being attracted to the light, it would be from the moment we first saw it, and not as a memory we have even before that

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It might be part of it, but I doubt that’s the only reason

sturdy wyvern
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What if the reason that most light creatures migrate towards Eden is because the eden diamond looks kinda like orbit and therefore tricks their (instinctual?) senses into coming near it. Kinda like how a moth is drawn to a flame, even though the flame kills it.

Edit: clarification

naive grail
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ooo
perhaps because of meeting all these spirits and experiencing their memories, Eden itself becomes less and less important to our skykid,signaling that they rather want to help those trapped there instead?

halcyon abyss
# keen shore Well now I’m curious; what do you think our purpose is?

This is a wonderful question.

I feel like the purpose is to simply explore, learning and growing through each experience. All of us are thrown into this world and fumble through the darkness until we start to light each other's candles.

I think Eden peaks our interest because it's this mystical place. stickerLove

It's eerie and there isn't really any preparation for what Eden is, but our natural journey of exploration gives us a glimpse. It allows us to work ourselves up to visiting a place we learn is scary.

austere bridge
sturdy wyvern
austere bridge
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i think that skids are drawn to eden because it seems just about every other light creature is drawn there as well. to put it one way, it's p much in their bones.

keen shore
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I think it’s deeper than just having our interest piqued personally; at the start of the game, when we should have no memories and we’ve just woken up on the beach for the first time, we remember Eden. Which is really weird, right? That same memory appears again when we start Dawn’s cutscene and behind Day during theirs, then doesn’t show up again…

It’s so important to us that it’s the only thing we remember from our past life

austere bridge
keen shore
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Like, you can’t get much more important than that. It’s definitely not just a fascination with how pretty or bright it is at that point. Our skykid shouldn’t have even seen it yet, and yet they remember and are drawn intensely to it. It’s the first thing they ever think about, which is insane to me. Why?

naive grail
austere bridge
halcyon abyss
keen shore
# halcyon abyss Okay. I'm sorry to ask. Which memories are you referring to us remembering? I ...

No it’s fine! I had to think a bit to realize it was a memory. Just enter the Isle portal and you’ll see a short cutscene where Eden appears first, then various shots of the desolate Isle.

The Eden bit specifically is a memory for a few reasons:
1] We shouldn’t be able to see Eden at all from where we’re standing. The hill in front of us blocks us entirely.
2] The color palette doesn’t resemble how Eden actually looks now — as in, the memory is all tinted yellow-gray, instead of a dark mountain with a yellow beam and blue sky, which is how we’d see it looking at it from afar now.
3] Eden is way too detailed. From Isle, you only see it as a distant vague silhouette, but in the memory you see it really clearly

The first thing you think about bit depends on whether you consider the part where we wake up in Home and then go through the Isle portal canon or not. If you do, it’s our first memory, which is still very important — the difference is small enough that I didn’t see the point of having a whole tangent paragraph about it

brisk python
frigid tinsel
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This is the Eden xe is talking about. It appears every time you enter Isle and when moths are newly born

keen shore
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Ohhh I just noticed there’s no beam

brisk python
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that makes so much more sense why did i think it was a temple 😭

frigid tinsel
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the Eden castle could've been a temple for the Eden Elder, if the Eden Elder a) exists or 2) had a temple

keen shore
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I reflexively skipped past the cutscene for ages, and most people don’t go into Isle a lot, I don’t blame you for not catching it!

frigid tinsel
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<<<goes to Isle a lot

lusty merlin
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Isint the castle way higher than that in orbit? Wouldn’t that make this a still frame the moment it was ripped apart or somthing?

keen shore
brisk python
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so that tiny little white thing with the flare of light around it, that's the diamond ?

austere bridge
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I’ve been trying to go into isle before anything after Eden runs just to watch the cutscene for my skykid
(I do similar things in other games too dw)

frigid tinsel
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yknow what, now that I can upload videos again, I should get a video of that cutscene. brb

keen shore
austere bridge
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yea, and the lens flare around it gets way bigger (and redder)

lusty merlin
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That begs the question tho on how moths know this though

frigid tinsel
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perhaps they're made with memories of Eden

halcyon abyss
brisk python
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that makes me really think....when we first play the game, it isn't our moth's "first" time being reborn?

lusty merlin
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-i would send that gif of a kitten getting the png missle explosion but I can’t send gifs here-

austere bridge
keen shore
# brisk python that makes me really think....when we first play the game, it isn't our moth's "...

Based on the phrasing of the new intro, it seems to be our first time!

*At last, you return to this world. Remember, Child —
your **light** is a gift.*
All are **given breath by starlight**.
The first of us lived in joy that we would one day **return to the stars.**
Together, we **built a Kingdom** in the clouds.
We **connected the seven realms** with the power of **starlight.**
But then the **sky went dark**, and our Kingdom **shattered.**
Many of us are still **trapped** in these realms.

Please, Child… Bring your **light** to our fallen **spirits.**```
lusty merlin
austere bridge
frigid tinsel
brisk python
lusty merlin
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Eden explosion or somthing nobody knows for sure, as with most skyloreSkyLOL

austere bridge
keen shore
brisk python
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so badly do i want to know just what that giant diamond in eden was used for/meant for/why it's there/why it exploded/why it's raining darkness on the realms/ect aaaa
im going Crazy

frigid tinsel
lusty merlin
austere bridge
frigid tinsel
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I know light encodes memories, but what if skykids are not just composed of meteorites from the asteroid belt orbiting the Light but that asteroid belt contains fragments of Eden that was yeeted into Orbit? skykids borne of the death of Eden

halcyon abyss
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Does anyone have any theories on why Eden has a heartbeat? SkyRespect

lusty merlin
brisk python
keen shore
# brisk python so badly do i want to know just what that giant diamond in eden was used for/mea...

So the giant diamond in Eden is something called darkstone; it’s that blue rock you light with your candle to make doors and mechanisms move. It’s this crystal-like material that absorbs light and uses it for energy.

This diamond was placed over the beam, the largest light source in the kingdom, although we’re unsure if the beam was active at that time. Due to unknown reasons, it ‘corrupted’, turning it a vivid red and making it so that instead of just using light for power when it was given, it sucked in all the light it could around it

It has been compared to a black hole quite a bit, with the clouds surrounding Eden as similar to an accretion disk and the beam like a quasar

halcyon abyss
lusty merlin
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I forgot the diamond is implied to be made of darkstone help-

keen shore
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I don’t know what else it could be 💀 I would say confirmed instead of implied

brisk python
brisk python
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so the theory is that someone (or someones) tried to put that darkstone over the beam to get unlimited energy?

lusty merlin
naive grail
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It’s just a really hungy krill /j

keen shore
brisk python
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aaaahhEyes AUGH IM GOING INSANE

frigid tinsel
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Sky lore does that

brisk python
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just thought of another thing: why is it that us skykids need to, essentially, learn/relearn how to emote? unless that just falls within the 'no memories besides a vivid one of eden' thing

keen shore
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Unfortunately, a lot of evidence we have for how everything with the diamond went down could be used as evidence for either theory. 😔 for instance, the beam not being present at the moment of explosion could be taken as either

  1. the diamond had absorbed all of it and had only just shattered, so not enough of it had escaped
    or
  2. the diamond had only just started absorbing light from everywhere around it and hadn’t been filled up enough to start spewing out the beam

Interestingly, I got a glitch in Eden recently where I got tossed really high above the diamond after I died for a bit, and from what I can tell it does in fact look like the beam is coming from the diamond rather than around it. Let me grab a picture

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The first picture shows the bottom/below the diamond the best, while the last one shows the top the most. As you can see, there’s no beam underneath the diamond, but there is one coming out of it

untold notch
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looking intensely

brisk python
keen shore
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Also, the beam is tinted red, presumably by the diamond

naive grail
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OHOHO pEyes
muy interesante

keen shore
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This isn’t strictly confirmed and is more theory, but I believe limbo takes place within the diamond because we got sucked in (and eventually escape). When the beam appears there, it appears from in front of us, within the diamond, as opposed to below us

brisk python
untold notch
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I think they're learning (/relearning?) how to express the emotions they feel

because suggesting that they don't feel will very swiftly become a whole lot of ableist nonsense

keen shore
# brisk python bringing this back down to see ur take

It’s because we’re kids! We remember some stuff from our past, but it’s fragmented and hard to make sense of. Meaning one of the things we have to relearn is how to express the Thousands of Emotions now pent up within us

frigid tinsel
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I personally think skykids are still new but were made with memories of Eden since the Eden calamity was a really big honking deal, yknow

naive grail
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yeah! the whole being reborn thing too
like a baby learning to walk but instead relearning how.

brisk python
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another really dumb question probably answered... why is it that all of the spirits are dead? was it like, a somewhat slow extinction event from the diamond, was it the darkness that rained down, ect? but yet, wildlife seems just fine?

naive grail
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pretty sure the explosion was so massive that it wiped nearly everyone/ or the dangers emerging from the aftermath

untold notch
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some of the valley spirits died in very silly ways unrelated to the calamity

naive grail
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^^^ this as well

frigid tinsel
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the consequences of the Eden calamity as well as the darkness pollution definitely set the world on hardcore mode and the ancestors weren't skilled enough to survive

keen shore
# brisk python another really dumb question probably answered... why is it that *all* of the sp...

We don’t know how exactly they all died yet, but it was definitely because of the disaster, directly or indirectly. The wildlife isn’t as plentiful as it used to be — we know that from some of the shattering memories that are absolutely filled with creatures — but they came back easier because they’re born easier. You can see birds just kinda manifesting out of light sometimes; although we don’t have tons of light creature lore, something along those lines was probably involved

brisk python
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(sorry for my dumb questions) so then once they were killed and find their "bodies" encrusted in darkness, us lighting them frees them from the darkness so they can then ascend properly once we go through eden ?

naive grail
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mhm!

brisk python
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ooohohoh okay i see i see

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so they're pretty much just physically dead but their spirits remain and can relive in the realms as they please, as we see with the ancestor spirits and grandma

keen shore
brisk python
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yeah that's ifhgodfg what i meant, im not good at wording stuff pWeep

naive grail
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you’re good! wording is a fickle beast 🙃

brisk python
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this is so cool to think about pWow

keen shore
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YEAH IVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT A LOT TOO

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I have a massive limbo and WL theory I keep forgetting to post here but alas, I don’t have time to post it tonight

naive grail
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oooo 👁👁

untold notch
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I'll try to remind you in the morning if I remember (I make no guarantees)

brisk python
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i just thought of something: when we relive the beckoning spirit (that's what it's called right-) and we see the skykid in the sand, they don't look like our moth...they're unlit, so to speak
why is that?

untold notch
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ushering stargazer? it's theorized that that kid is the one in the prophecy murals I like referring to them as One (short for chosen one iirc)

brisk python
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YEAH that one!

naive grail
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hmm it could be the story of the first skykid, or Resh as some theorize

brisk python
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but why are they unlit? how come we dont see them as a moth just like us?

untold notch
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since they were the first they may not have known how to project cosmetics like we can

naive grail
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adds to the mystique :) /hj

untold notch
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or graphical limitations lmao it's hard to say

brisk python
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why do we know how to do that too, if we're being brought into this world for the first time much like that skykid? stickerHuh even as just a moth, we have hair, our mask, the clothes, ect before finding our first winged light and our cape

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i apologize for my barrage of questions aaa hrhrrggger

pastel brookBOT
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have you considered how the moon phase affects this?

naive grail
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nono its fine!! just hard to fully answer? as said before Sky is ambiguous as hell and refuses to explain certain things too much.
Skybot not now

pastel brookBOT
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can I join in? pWow

brisk python
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yeti of course you can :)
i wonder what the reason was for the first skykid to fall? were they summoned? how long did civilization live without the skykids? are they being summoned to this world because of the whole darkstone incident that was happening/happened?

untold notch
pastel brookBOT
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have crabs de-evolved?

brisk python
untold notch
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there's one word that everything I'm saying hinges on and it's "return"

isn't exactly something you'd say to someone going somewhere for the first time, yeah?

brisk python
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oh yeah true, i totally missed that

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ffff aaahhh this is driving me nuts
so it's more plausible that we're being reborn from something, this isn't our first time, but
aahhhhhh

untold notch
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sometimes it really is the small details that pull everything together

bitter pond
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why is the elder in Vault looks sad?

untold notch
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they eated too many bees /j

brisk python
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so then it's just this endless cycle of being reborn, dying at eden, and being reborn again?
and the skykids we freed at eden stay free, and the statues there are from a 'new' wave of summoned kids?

topaz minnow
untold notch
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those other skykids also go through the Eden cycle - it's a widespread cycle of freeing kids and being freed

brisk python
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was the first skykid to go to eden trying to do something about the diamond? stickerHuh considering how the very last statue is insanely close to it

untold notch
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they probably all are, is what I'd guess

brisk python
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rrrr my theory brain is going insane

untold notch
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this is a good game for it

brisk python
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this game is making me turn into one of those memes where there's a bunch of notes on a coakboard with pins stuck in them and red yarn threading everything together as a connected web ighfogfgh

untold notch
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if you go delving into the internet - you'll probably see a lot of people using concept art to prove their theories, but concept art isn't canon so their theories often have little to no basis in terms of the actual game sky
something to keep in mind if you do your own research, concept art can be good for inspiration but make sure the game backs up your theories as well

brisk python
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(okay i love the neko atsume emote 🥺 )
and yeah i dont really tend to lean towards concept art since concepts can be entirely different from what's actually shown in game

untold notch
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that's why I never have a confident tone in my messages if I'm just saying something from memory lmao I'm not a terribly credible source all things considered

brisk python
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it's still so fun to think about though aaa

wicked prairie
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this is pretty late to the discussion but now that im viewing the eden custcene as a memory maybe it's a memory right after the eden calamity/diamond explosion happened?? bcuz of the the smoke(?) around im sorry if this has been pointed out or implied already but im having some ✨ realizations ✨

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also just realized that after the several times i went to eden we did not simply wake up on the ground at home space, we were ascended to orbit became stars once again then fell to the world. this makes me think about some of the theories that maybe some time went by before we were born again and we also become one of the statues in eden and we need to wait for another sky kid to save us but bcus game mechanics and etc we dont have to wait that long. also add in the fact that we're dead and maybe time doesn't flow the way we're used to

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whats ur theories for the sky kid that we hug after death? when i first did eden i thought it was also us? kinda like our past memories going into our new body because when we hug them a bright light happens then we see what our sky kid actually looks like? idk how to explain it aaaa but kinda like what happened to scaramouche if u know and played genshin

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sorry for the rambles hfdjkf the more i think about sky lore the more my brain explodes stickerEmbarrassed stickerEmbarrassed

native shoal
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There are many theories out there that are more based on the current popular theories, such as thinking it’s the king

proper cosmos
winter monolith
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i was thinking about the eden blast itself and how it killed the ancestors and i was curious how there aren’t really signs of a massive explosion/blast wave in the ruins of each realm! especially in the vault bc the ancestors there died inside and that place is physically the closest. the only physical evidence of massive destruction that i can think of is in eden itself! so to me that would mean that the shattering blast focused only on light/life maybe?

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especially bc an explosion that large that reaches all the way to the isle would have much more of an impact on the terrain

lusty merlin
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I mean wasteland and vault with starlight desert are well, deserts, the closest to eden so I think any dirt was turned to sand in a way. And with the rest of the realms so high up as seen with the decent into wasteland from valley they could’ve avoided the initial shockwave, either that or the eden explosion doesn’t follow the laws of physics for explosions irl

winter monolith
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maybe! which makes me ask how the ancestors would’ve died if they were safe in the higher realms

lusty merlin
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We got the shards, i wouldn’t put it past that a couple accidents happened at a much frequent and rapid pace. the explosion could’ve ripped the kingdom apart so badly that the ancestors that did survive could’ve died out overtime. No guidance from the elders assuming they’re dead

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Oh wait this remember me of the isle intro where it mentions “all is given breath by starlight” it would be cool if elders could give life to the ancestors, being their starlight. An extention of their hearts, if they die, their people die maybe.
They already ascend spirits to the stars, maybe they bring life to them in a way. Like an ancestor making a statue of their child and bringing it for the elder to bless them as the statue is brought to light. Could explain the lil cores in their chest, hardens starlight. Ancestors do seem to have a shell on them before we light them uppWow ofcorse that’s probably not the caseSkyLOL probably brain rotting to hard but it’s a cool idea to think about how connected elders and ancestors could be

slate saffron
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Awooga

distant turtle
rustic flare
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Speaking of Eden, with the 2 or so times I've actually done a run so far there, I've seen what seems like a castle of some sorts after death we see on the way up floating on a huge rock, but seemingly never actually fly to, only past. And it feels like the true key to all the mysteries is in that thing, if we could actually enter it/get to it pre-death.

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Especially since it seems like the kind of thing you'd find an elder inside, like the others.

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Honestly, that would be extremely cool, if via convoluted shenanigans the devs set it so someone who is active/skilled enough is chosen to be the one who can actually breach the invisible wall near that diamond thing, and it basically yeets them all the way up to that castle thing itself. Letting them enter it, and being able to see the Eden elder in their true form there reveal the full truth of how things got so bad and other mysteries revealed that could either be grand, or paint the elders in a much worse light based on what is shown. Leaving the player who finally gets all this info to have a choice in-game to either let the world know the truth of what all happened and lower the Eden castle down onto the diamond for all to explore it, or bury it forever sealing the Eden castle and having it lift up to the stars to vanish forever.

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And no matter which happens, the devs have it be the canon next part of the lore.

frigid tinsel
uncut pond
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Reading all the convo I missed about the Eden memory in Isle and using every fiber of my body to resist the urge to post the "skids are the Eden elder" meme for the hundredth time

frigid tinsel
exotic steppe
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Is there a sky story or like a what we know about sky lore so far like I’d there a full timeline/story I can red or watch

keen shore
soft timber
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Theoretically, would a Skykid survive lava or temperatures hotter than fire?

cold sparrow
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I don't see why not
from what we know, skykids seem to mostly be made of light and ?soul? ?matter?
standing directly in fire doesn't seem to hurt them, quite the opposite
so it seems like heat doesn't affect them much - light (or darkness) does

rigid mural
naive grail
keen shore
tepid veldt
rigid mural
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Hi lore chat ! A warning.

keen shore
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I don’t feel afraid I feel delighted. I hope they come back for dob this year

tepid veldt
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crab whisperer’s in your walls

untold notch
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I hope my drywall tastes good

open bridge
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Does anyone know when the animation is coming out? 👀
And also, is the animation canon?

potent maple
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What's the big Dimond in eden?

keen shore
# open bridge Does anyone know when the animation is coming out? 👀 And also, is the animation...

The animation project and its teaser is almost definitely canon! In fact, it aligns with a story we already know to have happened in Sky, but we don’t have much information on yet. Two of the ancestors that appear in it are even the refusing voyager and ushering stargazer spirits.

We don’t know when it’s coming out, though, sadly.

There’s also another animation which you might be referring to — the switch trailer. This one’s position in canon is much more debatable, though.

keen shore
# potent maple What's the big Dimond in eden?

It’s darkstone! Darkstone is a crystal-like material that holds light and uses it for energy; you may recognize it the most as the blue-gray rock you hold your candle to to open doors and start up mechanisms throughout the realms.

Due to a currently unknown event, the Eden Diamond changed from simply accepting light to use passively when it was given to sucking in light from everywhere it could and spewing it out in the form of the massive beam you can see throughout the realms.

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The Diamond was put there for one of two reasons. Unfortunately we don’t know which yet. However the first option is slightly likelier.

  1. the natural beam, which was very important for ascending creatures, went out a while before the diamond exploded and kickstarted the disaster. The diamond was an attempt at bringing it, or something like it back, that failed.
  2. the diamond was placed over the beam to harness its energy due to it being the brightest light source in all the realms. However, it got overloaded and soon exploded
sturdy wyvern
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Honestly, looking back, this chat has enough strange and random quotes to start make a quote book

boreal nebula
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Could it be that at some point even Ancestors & Elders witnessed Aurora in it's final form, thus realized we Sky kids are in part related to her

It could be another reason why the murals/maps represent us like this

keen shore
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That’s a WL symbol, not the Aurora cape. ^^
We are most likely not related to her.

boreal nebula
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It also reminds me of one of the possible plotlines we can get from 2nd Performance quest... Talking about a Star which divide into pieces becoming the sparks of many types of life, some of those could also be WLs

keen shore
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Who would the star be then?

boreal nebula
boreal nebula
open bridge
lusty merlin
boreal nebula
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I don't have the full flowchart of all storylines, I saved only the Chosen One xD

frigid tinsel
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I’m not gonna say Aurora isn’t canon but I definitely do not think she’s a deity of some kind, cmon

untold notch
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that would be incredibly weird for the lore for an Entire Deity to spontaneously appear over 3 years into the games lifespan

spring python
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I lowkey think she is just a voice. Like, it took 4 spirits lending her power for her to manage to get a “body” for the concert, I don’t think she’s a god

untold notch
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and I'm not one to unequivocally support tgcs storytelling but they would not do that

boreal nebula
untold notch
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hey Google what is an artistic decision

frigid tinsel
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cos they look like wings

lusty merlin
tepid veldt
boreal nebula
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Yeah, but I was still surprised a bjt by the resemblace once I took that stranger with my wings

lusty merlin
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Bottom part would just face down though

boreal nebula
frigid tinsel
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or they had the place and figured why not put more things there so people would revisit season areas rather than abandon them once they complete the quests?

fickle wing
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i think aurora is a season

boreal nebula
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If I recall correctly, even Jehova Chen said at the Awards something like "18 months of pkaytest" to prepare for the event of the Concert

untold notch
lusty merlin
boreal nebula
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I think he might have meant that many little details/mechanics were introduced earlier to be later used elsewhere. But anyway, that might be another thing I need to double check again... i need to rethink where I heard/watched SkyThink

lusty merlin
fickle wing
cold sparrow
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they might have decided then to try and make a concert venue, but not have an artist to partner with yet

lusty merlin
lusty merlin
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(Cough -gestures to days of rainbow for example-)

keen shore
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I have another idea on WL (that also ties into limbo) do you guys mind if I post it?

boreal nebula
keen shore
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Ok it’s really long and convoluted so bear with me;

It came from how WL are called ‘lost memories’ during the new intro. That has a lot of implications, but my first thought was “does this mean during PNR when we’re saving skykids we’re ripping out our own memories to free them?”

I think this is true, but it led to a thought. What if the kid we hug in limbo is our own memories?

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Think about it — they’re shaped exactly like us, they seem to anticipate what we’re going to do before we do it, and after we merge with them, we become the brightest version of ourself we can possibly be. (I will explain this in a moment) They’re definitely not a normal WL; they have a consciousness and mind of their own, and they’re an intricate part of us.

frigid tinsel
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the white skid is also always your height

keen shore
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Before you hug them, you are quite literally a shell of your former self. After you do so, you become a shining silhouette of basically exactly who you were before you ventured into Eden — your cosmetics, the thing most skykids would logically rely on to distinguish one another and express their identity, have returned to you.The light the kid you hug gives you seems like an intrinsic part of yourself you’re getting back.

When you’re returned to one another, you glow brighter than they ever did, and more than that… you’re you.

lusty merlin
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YES SO TRUE SALEM I LOVE THIS ALOT

cold sparrow
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in Sky, light and memories seem to be intrinsically connected (as can be seen with the Spirits), so that tracks

tepid veldt
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yeah i was going to say something that added on to what you said but the truth is i cant, i love this sm 🤍

lusty merlin
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And it would fit with sky’s themes!! You sacrifice light to help other skykids like you, and when you succumb to the diamond it’s your turn to fly with the other statues when you reunite. You hug yourself because your you, becoming one again and pushing through the darkness because you see the light at the end of the tunnel

The most extreme form of self love /jSkyLOL

brisk python
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STOP MY HEART 😭

keen shore
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It has a lot of really emotional implications too.

Like… if WL are lost memories of our past, we’ve slowly been gathering the recollections of who we used to be as we journey through the realms. It’s no doubt been a struggle collecting them all, and coming to terms with whatever knowledge of our pasts they give us — I can only imagine how much a skykid, who woke up disoriented on a desolate beach with only the memories of a distant mountain in their mind and surrounded by ghosts, having lost almost all their memory of their past, would value them upon their return.

But once we get to PNR and realize giving those WL away are the only way to save other skykids— we value others more. We put them above the part of ourselves we value even above our own life. We tear each WL away the first time knowing we might not be able to get them back; that even if we survive this, they might be lost forever. We’d never fully remember who we were. Even if we tracked down and gathered more memories, there would still be massive chunks of it lost to us, embedded within other skykid’s petrified shells as an effort to save them. Our skykid goes through their entire first Eden run convinced they’ll never get them back.

But then they get to limbo… and they do.

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All those memories that they’d had to collect, that they valued so much despite their disjointed and confusing nature, finally make perfect sense. They remember everything. The puzzle falls into place and, for the first time ever, our skykid comprehends completely and fully who they are and how they ended up here.

lusty merlin
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AUGHH yeah, and honestly as long as sky tells it story our skykids will never fully get are memory back, there will always be more wing light to find

tepid veldt
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and to think they do this every week

brisk python
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IM SOBBING

keen shore
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After our skykid hugs the kid in limbo for the first time they’re fully themselves for the first time in their memory

lusty merlin
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“Time to get my eden candles for my fav elder mask that hast released yet. Oh and give my light to others because they’re stuck and need help and I value them but also self love time”SkyLOL

tepid veldt
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just throwing the idea out there but what if the location of the wl correlates to the memories that our skykid receives

lusty merlin
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We agree megabird made skykids right, and liek everything including ancestor and elders? Maybe the lights scattered from the kingdom are a mix of ancestor memories for our skykids? I’m not sure how well that could work though

untold notch
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I was thinking about this one a few days ago... what memories do you hold and why are they sad

lusty merlin
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Either of the pollution or Watching death from afar? The ancestor in salutes memory got destroyed💀

untold notch
lusty merlin
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“Ahh it’s the four leggeds” /ref

keen shore
# keen shore All those memories that they’d had to collect, that they valued so much despite ...

NOT ONLY THAT but this actually fits really really well with what we know about how the Eden Diamond works so far.

It’s commonly theorized that Limbo takes place within the Eden Diamond itself; the beam coming from within the diamond all but confirms this. The shattering memories also tell us that memories can be imprinted inside the diamond so long as they’re made of light. With this knowledge, as well as the theory that the elders are also trapped within the diamond, it’s not unreasonable to assume the same thing happened to who or whatever we used to be:

We got sucked in during the moment of shattering just like all the others. An imprint got made of us at that time similar to the shattering memories, and that’s the kid, who contains all our memories up to that point. Unlike the creatures in those memories, though, we survive. And unlike the elders, we manage to escape somehow — maybe we got spit out in the beam. But darkness splits apart and erodes light to use it for energy, so we leave in pieces. The largest pieces become skykids. The smallest pieces of our memory, too small to become anything on their own, enter the Eden beam and are dispersed across the realms in tiny fragments of light shaped like our imprint. (They’re exactly ‘imprints of the children of light.’)

And that’s how you get WL.

untold notch
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👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️

lusty merlin
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Eating this eating this eating this eating this

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That would work so well! And it would give a reason on why we have to keep getting wl because of leaving in pieces, not truly whole. We escape but not as one

brisk python
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i am Losing my mind omggg

marsh rivet
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Question.
Bog ?

tepid veldt
# tepid veldt just throwing the idea out there but what if the location of the wl correlates t...

sacrificing my team’s chances of winning to write this sorry guys

also, rolling with the idea that seasonal areas have always been there and we just discover, and also assuming that wl are skykid memories, then our skykids must have traveled to many places, only to lose their memory and then the places are inaccessible again
wait would losing the memory mean that our skykid no longer has access to seasonal areas both mentally and physically-

untold notch
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omg the peat bogs

flint schooner
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Originally in Light Awaits you would be giving away your emotes as you went through PNR, so…~

lusty merlin
keen shore
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I’m actually really proud of this idea because I think it explains WL really well, even explaining why it was called “imprints of the children of light” in that one livestream transcript that’s been floating around

tepid veldt
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officially throwing nonsense i didnt understand what i just wrote 🫠

lusty merlin
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I just occurred skykids are very light, lighter than clouds yet strong enough to not break apart at literal rocksSkyLOL

Bridge moment /insidej

tepid veldt
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built different

boreal nebula
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This is the storylime which is intriguing me now... a light/star could shatter creating many lesser lights. It is mentioning a Star creating many others in the blue night sky, but maybe it's not meaning that light went extinguished in the process

This plus the similarity I was pointing out earlier with WL mural and Aurora Wings... is hitching my mind.. maybe the WLs could be lesser lights generated, if not from Aurora herself, from another elder light

frigid tinsel
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what

boreal nebula
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Anyway, just a random thought. Lately my lore mind is less trained , is mostly sleeping SkyLOL

untold notch
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sleeping is pretty poggers

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I need to eject poggers from my vocabulary immediately

lusty merlin
keen shore
# tepid veldt ~~sacrificing my team’s chances of winning to write this sorry guys~~ also, rol...

Not really with my idea, actually. Think of WL kind of like shards— they got sucked into the beam and fell everywhere, forming into their shape when they hit the ground like we do!

The way you’re writing this also does kind of imply that whoever our skykid used to be was around post disaster (if I’m reading this correctly) and that they’d already discovered seasonal areas but forgot about them, which I don’t think is true. When we as players wake up for the first time coincides with the first time our skykid has seen the post disaster world, ever.

From the new intro:
*At last, you return to this world. Remember, Child —
your light is a gift.
All are given breath by starlight.
The first of us lived in joy that we would one day return to the stars.
Together, we built a Kingdom in the clouds.
We connected the seven realms with the power of starlight.
But then the sky went dark, and our Kingdom shattered.
Many of us are still trapped in these realms.

Please, Child… Bring your light to our fallen spirits.*

The way it’s written implies that this is our skykid’s first time showing up after the disaster, hence why everyone needs to be saved this time around to begin with, rather than it already happening.

brisk python
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eugh i was writing out something but i thought it was stupid so im not gonna post it
im gonna instead say is, if it's the first time, why does it say "we return to this world"? stickerHuh

tepid veldt
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yeah i started writing that message before i read the one above mine (yours) that was my bad SkyLOL your idea makes a lot more sense

untold notch
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the first time after the Eden disaster I think is what xe mean

brisk python
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oohhhh

keen shore
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Yes Astral is right! Left briefly to grab a snack and forgot to specify 💔

untold notch
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neopronouns are fun to use when I remember who has which ones

lusty merlin
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Thinks of ancestors using star/star self cHeart

brisk python
untold notch
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before I was astral I used star/stars for a time

austere bridge
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I allow myself to use as many pronouns as I feel necessary
neopronouns 💪

lusty merlin
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I’m just here, gender nowhere SkyLOL

tepid veldt
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so true

austere bridge
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so true

brisk python
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who needs gender when we have ✨ stars ✨

tepid veldt
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you don’t need gender only funny spirits

austere bridge
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I only need derg (dragon)

lusty merlin
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Now that I think about it do ya think pronouns aside from they/them would be Neo pronouns in sky world? Since every ancestor ingame uses they/them beside gloat calling themselves a man and grams going by she/they in bug reports

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Thinking of gloat creating man and he/him pronouns to be the only handsomest man in the worldSkyLOL

untold notch
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idk if gloats counts they are just a featherless biped

also that's probably jank referencing the text? I think maybe

lusty merlin
quick jasper
boreal nebula
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Reposting one of the last times my lore-mind was enough intrigued to give birth to a cool idea. Picture collage by Sophos#1646

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It's a bit sad how the few lore crumbles we get are slowly krilling my crave for lore 🥲 sqwarlockDed

untold notch
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there is actually a good amount of lore if you aren't just looking for shadows of the king like most of the fandom does

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if anybody can find a genuine image of the king appearing in person in game maybe I'll be less harsh but

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bro is Not Real

lusty merlin
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Plus isint the mural in the top right cut content?

boreal nebula
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After 2 years of gameplay I mostly just CR or play idle.. not many things surprise me enough or not enough to keep me entrained, sadly

untold notch
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am I actually on topic for the images teb posted they didn't load

boreal nebula
lusty merlin
boreal nebula
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Because in that old intro that mural slowly faded, on point with that type of icon (regular version or the erased version) meaning either Bond/Loss or even both

lusty merlin
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Ya but it’s, old. It was changed for a reason

boreal nebula
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*possibly meaning ..

lusty merlin
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If something is cut and not in the game anymore then it’s not cannon anymore to me, I am a firm believer of thatSkyLOL

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Devs changed it for a reason

boreal nebula
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Imho, partially relevant, like many concept arts😅

It was my moth intro, it's hard to forget for me

lusty merlin
boreal nebula
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But some concepts can still be slightly relevant. For example when people were excited for the laser turrets statues of king I was sceptical... Till the last Prophecy mural pointing in that direction

spring python
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Yeah but the way concept art changed so drastically in so many ways, it’s best to only take it into consideration if the stuff in the game can back it up, and it rarely does

boreal nebula
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That old intro mural fading IMHO still slightly live in the 3rd intro mural r6Isle when the Isle Constellation fade

lusty merlin
boreal nebula
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Maybe it will just stay stuck in my headcanon for nostalgia reason SkyShrug SkyLOL

keen shore
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I like to think the constellation table symbol is a stylized map of the realms, representing the kingdom, with Valley being the capital! It’s not exactly perfect, but that’s why it’s stylized

rigid mural
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I feel it's unfair to say Sky isn't getting lore, lately we've been fed pretty well with Flight (and mayhaps its link to Enchantment), Abyss (ruins of light creature experimentation in person !), Performance (and the tidbit with the tale about stars falling from the sky and unattended children in the desert) and Shattering (and the poems which I agree should be more accessible). Aurora is a collab season but it still showcases the kingdom of the past as well as giving us another viewpoint over things like the mines in Forest or the war in Wasteland !

lusty merlin
boreal nebula
keen shore
rigid mural
boreal nebula
keen shore
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your loss. I LOVE SOUP.

lusty merlin
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I mean there’s a lot to imagine, dark-stone and how it’s built, manta racing and sports they played in general, hell I find it super intriguing mantas were being captured in valley when manta racing was huge, focusing on the enrichment can get into some deep rabbit holes for discussion and theories

boreal nebula
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Lol, I forgot lorechat came up with that soup shish sortof analogy

spring python
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Just the single moment in Aurora’s The Seed near the end when they zoom it at the Wasteland gate’s temple was already enough to get me wondering why there was a battle focus there, were they focusing on Vault? Or were they focusing on Eden which is accessible through Vault? And Why? Why do they want to enter there? Who is in the side of the ones who want to enter it? Did they succeed or did they fail?

Like you can get a lot going from a single scene, you just have to look a little further

lusty merlin
keen shore
# rigid mural salem your mind, i always thought of it as a leftover from LA where isle was at ...

Thank you pCry It could be!! The isolated one could be Isle or Eden, it’s kind of up in the air. Depends on if you think Isle growing apart from the other realms was a thing that happened or not; I do but not in a solid exile way and it’s mostly headcanon than anything with fact.

I can definitely see Eden being symbolically set apart, not only because it’s where we both start and end, but it’s also really important to the ancestors. It was likely the holiest place in their kingdom, it was the brightest light source within it, it’s the only realm who had an elder that wasn’t really an elder…

Eden would be unique in a LOT of ways to the ancestors and/or elders who designed the symbol before the disaster, it makes sense that it would be the one set apart instead of Isle! Possibly to designate importance as well as uniqueness

boreal nebula
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Mine usage a minute ago seems just dumb now in comparison to that unifying theory xD

rigid mural
lusty merlin
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HELPPP

keen shore
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HELP YEAH

i also think it being a stylized map makes a lot of sense because it’s where we call the spirits of each realm down… I gotta check but imagine if the tail at the end points towards Eden in homespace

It’s also really sweet because it resembles how constellations are rendered in murals. If every elder is a star, the kingdom is a constellation

rigid mural
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I think it's placed so the "beams" at the top face the gates

lusty merlin
rigid mural
boreal nebula
snow cosmos
rigid mural
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YEAH EXACTLY

keen shore
rigid mural
# boreal nebula What kind kf parallels between TLP and Shattering? <:SkyThink:632652199931150336...

OK OK OK See the sneezing geographer memory ? As you relive it, illustrations appear on the book. I don't have the picture on hand but at some point, Geographer seems to look at Eden; the illustrations that appear then are of the mountain with stars, then of that same mountain but with something shining atop it & being surrounded by mantas.
Jellyfish and crab memory poems in shattering imply creatures were lured to their demise by a very bright light.

raw crypt
rigid mural
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SLINK YOU HERO i owe you guys my life

boreal nebula
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Niiice pWow

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Thanks for this taste of the soup pAww

stickerSleep stickerWave

frigid tinsel
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Good soup

brisk python
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the tea omg pEyes

fickle snow
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what?

untold notch
keen shore
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I DIDNT EVEN SEE THAT
@rigid mural SPILL

river crystal
rigid mural
# untold notch I'm probably late but flight is connected to enchantment?

I link the two because the Enchantment murals depict the ark falling following a storm; and on the 4th quest, lightning can be heard (along with krill sounds) as rocks fly out of the ark entrance into the wind paths.

I think this is an echo (ie: the event happens in the present but reflects something that happened in the past) of how the wind paths closed as they became too dangerous to navigate; it's possible that the storm that caused this also caused the crash of the ark imo.

untold notch
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oh ur mind

uncut pond
# boreal nebula Reposting one of the last times my lore-mind was enough intrigued to give birth ...

I believe that old symbol with one branch on the bottom and 5 on the top is a remnant from the Aviary era of Light Awaits, since back then you started in Isle and went to the Aviary, which connected to the other 5 realms in a similar manner to what that symbol depicts
And as we know, after global launch, TGC rarely updates old content to match with the modern version of the game, with very few exceptions. Something minor like that old constellation symbol would likely go under the radar for them

frank moth
low spindle
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Hi lore chat! I have a question about the world of sky,

Are eden rocks/dark rocks the only crystal type things in the world of sky? Or are there crystal formations that aren't red rock or artificial dark rocks?

lusty merlin
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There could be, I like to think other crystal gemstones exist but without solid proof it’s up to inteperation

tepid veldt
frigid tinsel
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Darkstone is blue, shown in Mindful Miner, Ceasing Commodore, and All Is Soft Inside spirit memories

lusty merlin
tepid veldt
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ayo??
i skimmed through the patch notes i was excited lol

untold notch
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YESSSSSSSS THE ANNOUNCEMENT

tepid veldt
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confirmed to be on jan 16 i think

frigid tinsel
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Vibrating

lusty merlin
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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LOOK ST THRM

wicked prairie
# raw crypt

omg this is the first time that i've seen something that looks like a book in game cWow i just assumed that the ancestors didn't use them and used murals to tell stories or the jars in the vault to store knowledge. can i pls ask where i can find this?

untold notch
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THE MANTA PLUSHIE IS REALLLLLL

tepid veldt
frigid tinsel
lusty merlin
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MANTA PLUS REALLLL

I was wondering about the mask too it’s super intersting, reminds me of that one anime where it’s personified crystals as anime girls (I forget the name)

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Bro- bro the plush it’s on fire bro- /j

tepid veldt
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help i just realized paperboy spirit is a child with a manta plush i already love them

lusty merlin
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Wait they look like they have theyre eye if you squint

frigid tinsel
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Screaming crying pointing pointing pointing

lusty merlin
tepid veldt
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we get to build shared spaces for the spirits..
we better get the manta plush as a prop im going to scream

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oh sick i dont have school that day either pHypeKid

lusty merlin
lusty merlin
frigid tinsel
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refugees
My fic is realpFIRE

keen shore
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They made Fealty real 🎉🎉🎉🎉

tepid veldt
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tgc actually reads alasdairs fics

lusty merlin
frigid tinsel
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Salem is Apollo’s favorite child, I’m just a close second

lusty merlin
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Two of you

Omg vela can scream about remembrance guide now Yipiee!!!

tepid veldt
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we just got the teaser and i already love all 5 of them

lusty merlin
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Ooo and they look to be hiding, remmeberance guide seems to lift up some fabric behind them as if to come out of a hiding spotpEyes

keen shore
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I love this season so unreasonably much and I’m so excited for it. It’s so good.

frigid tinsel
lusty merlin
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Oo yayay!

tepid veldt
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would this season be in wasteland or vault or somewhere else pEyes
right i cant read

cold sparrow
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vault, according to the news

lusty merlin
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Vault season

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(IK WE HAVE PRINCE BUT LIKE FIRST NON COLLAB SEASON THAT HAS A SEASONAL AREA)

halcyon abyss
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Whoops. Forgot about the gif thing. Oh my gosh cCry cCry cCry pFIRE the neewwwwssss

keen shore
frigid tinsel
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We get to see more of the Vault!!!

tepid veldt
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gonna reread the patchnotes, was excited to get over here SkyLOL

lusty merlin
untold notch
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those concepts are gender or at least some of them are

frigid tinsel
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Broken mask from earlier encounters, remaining eye is blue bc of light loss/dark pollution

lusty merlin
cold sparrow
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oh that's a fantastic design

untold notch
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THATS TJE GENDER ONE

tepid veldt
lusty merlin
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I am very exitedSkyLOL

tepid veldt
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already decided i would get the ap when i got beta’d SkyLOL

untold notch
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yeah this is one to AP for sure

lusty merlin
tepid veldt
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11 days isnt that long right
right

tac, when is sky not sad

lusty merlin
untold notch
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Aurora wasn't about sadness even if that's the takeaway most people got

tepid veldt
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well noooo a negative times a negative = a positive! /j

earnest briar
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So lorechat, how we feeling about new lore Season?

halcyon abyss
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I think while it might have sad moments. I feel like it'll also instill hope. stickerLove

untold notch
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every season is a lore season if you aren't chasing phantoms of the King/Resh/Alef

cold sparrow
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I think a better way to describe Sky is bittersweet

tepid veldt
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everything is lore if you want it to be

earnest briar
untold notch
lusty merlin
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Shaking I can’t wait I can’t wait I can’t wait aooooooooooooo

tepid veldt
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manta plushie + child spirit + paperboy hat is the highlight of my day

lusty merlin
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We better get manta plush prop

frigid tinsel
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child spirit
Reasons why Sky is bittersweet:

floral python
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I’ve never seen manta plush prop in beta, what does it look like? pPopcorn

untold notch
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who said it was a prop the kid just has one in the art

tepid veldt
earnest briar
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wait

lusty merlin
halcyon abyss
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Manta plush. So stinking cute pWow pWow

lusty merlin
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Oo imma draw somthing wuickly the one with the broken mask is super intersting

earnest briar
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I was the one who talked about Manta plushies being a toy in the Kingdom in lorechat once. I may have contributed to this? pEyes

floral python
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Y’all meant the manta plush in the art, I was confused earlier pCry

cold sparrow
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imagine... like a pillow... but its mantashaped....

frigid tinsel
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I want to squeeze that kid’s cheeks, oh pWow

untold notch
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mantas are just very plushieable

this would be a banger merch opportunity tgc

frigid tinsel
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$55 for manta plushie, ships in 3 months, you know it

halcyon abyss
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That would be incredible if it has some heft to it, instead of like the squishmallows. I'd love one with some weight :3

tepid veldt
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dont make the kid have a sad backstory im about to cry over them being with their family as is

earnest briar
cobalt palm
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https://www.thatskygame.com/news/links-to-the-past-in-season-of-remembrance/

Spirits share lessons from eras when their connections with each other and with nature were strong, and in Seasons like Abyss, we glimpse eras when those connections were in turmoil. Now in Season of Remembrance, we go deeper into Sky's lore. Journey alongside Spirits who lived through eras of turmoil to press on and rebuild together.

Season of lore on its way, hype

broken pendant
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Season of Rember

tepid veldt
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trying to keep it together so my family doesnt give me any weird looks SkyLOL

lusty merlin
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we already got lore in the other seasons but I’m so excited for this one

untold notch
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it's always so interesting to see people call new seasons "season of lore" because like they're all that

cold sparrow
frigid tinsel
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Slice of life stories from the refugees

cobalt palm
tepid veldt
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denies very obvious truth that the kid will have a sad backstory and i will cry

cold sparrow
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I'm sure the season's quests will be about building them a comfy new home

quick jasper
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season of sadness SkyTada

cobalt palm
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Yeah, because apparently I didn't cry enough at Aurora's concert, and tgc feed on our tears

tepid veldt
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i will geek out later, cya lorechat 🤍SkyWave

lusty merlin
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Cya!!!

cold sparrow
tepid veldt
cold sparrow
keen shore
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@rigid mural can you tell us about your stole theory here? It’s one of my favorites

cobalt palm
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Like a vault lantern cLight

junior mesa
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good evening lore chat i missed so much in the few hours i was gone 😭
cant wait for the new season tho it seems like we will be getting so many bread crumbs :)

random token
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Alright guys get your thinker thonk brains ready for this season. pPopcorn

untold notch
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I've been ready since it came out in beta but we can't go off to the races yet

rigid mural
# keen shore <@233316133065850882> can you tell us about your stole theory here? It’s one of ...

RIGHT i think that, like the flight ult pants to Prairie elder, the questgiver's stole is meant to make their garb look like Vault elder's, especially since they have a mask meant to emulate theirs !
Stoles are most commonly associated with the catholicc clergy, but they're also significant to students graduating as a sign of honor, which would fit the realm since it's meant to be a giant library.
TL;DR: I think Remembrance guide is Vault elder's apprentice.

pastel brookBOT
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Using emulators is against the Sky TOS, @rigid mural. Please don’t use or discuss emulators here.

random token
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Go away bot stickerMad

junior mesa
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i actually cant wait to experience my first normal season lol
my first season was shattering and i joined halfway thru and so i didnt really understand what was happening and everyone told me that that season was unusual
then my second season was aurora which was a very collaborative season
so ive mostly been trying to catch up on missed season on ym own time to understand what i've missed/what the game is actually like haha

random token
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Then this'll be a good season for you. Very lore filled

lusty merlin
random token
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I'm just obsessed with the history of sky

untold notch
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omg we might get cards again hype hype hype hype hype

rigid mural
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who was complaining about lack of lore, because it's being written black on white in that news article SkyLOL

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connected to their own place in Vault of Knowledge
The Season Guide also offers [...] two Ultimate Gifts connected to their own place in Vault of Knowledge.
ok im even more confident in my guess they're the elder's apprentice

untold notch
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goes insane and silly

keen shore
# rigid mural who was complaining about lack of lore, because it's being written black on whit...

Signs of the kingdom’s upheaval echo in the ruins you’ve seen while venturing through Sky. With Remembrance, we wanted to link these signs scattered throughout Golden Wasteland and prior Seasons to reveal more about a critical era in the kingdom’s history—one that has only been hinted at until now.

This bit feels like a vaguepost to people who said Shattering didn’t fit the lore and it’s killing me 💀

rigid mural
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hello devs lurking in this chat

untold notch
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hi devs are you having a good Thursday

rigid mural
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i would lay my life down for them

keen shore
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We know 💛 /aff

frigid tinsel
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There’s my lil sib 🤟

untold notch
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I aspire to one day ask a tgc dev what their favorite flavor of concrete is

rigid mural
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I love how there's fire coming out of the teapot & how it looks like the teacups contain fire. On one side it's probably to show how warm it is compared to outside, but on the other... ancestors consuming light (and not nutrients like humans) pEyes

frigid tinsel
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Light good food

keen shore
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Maybe everything living is light, so most food would contain it as well.

untold notch
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is tea living?

rigid mural
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WAIT NVM that's their soul ! There's still fire coming out of the teapot tho.

cobalt palm
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Tbh there's a massive fire under the teapot, so refects

untold notch
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it looks like steam is coming out of the teapot to me but I can't rlly tell

frigid tinsel
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I mean it’s prob not that bad for an ancestor to subsist only off of light for a while, right?

untold notch
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I'm going to shake you like a maraca

cobalt palm
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What if the teapot contains soup SkyDontGo sqwarlockDed

lucid egret
halcyon abyss
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manta soup

rigid mural
quick jasper
lusty merlin
keen shore
untold notch
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that cannoneer is so unfairly gender

lucid egret
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As I expected, y’all are eating this up

cobalt palm
frigid tinsel
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Their masks were just cracked, not blue

lusty merlin
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somewhat yea! i think masks don't count for ancestors since we've seen maskelss ancestors, i think cannoneer was lucky to not look like this ancestor above

ya what al said

quick jasper
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omg yall are having a blast with only one image SkyLOL can't wait for the season to come out to see lore chats thoughts on it

cobalt palm
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Sorry was thinking shattering mask, but that was dark plant growing from the eye

keen shore
frigid tinsel
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Angler’s mask has what I’d call a surface-level scratch

white junco
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omg maslon

keen shore
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Thank you for the pictures! I was pretty sick during Abyss and didn’t have the energy to get a lot of cosmetics, so I couldn’t check the masks myself 💔

frigid tinsel
lusty merlin
cobalt palm
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Is this what happens when you leave a light wound unhealed?

white junco
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me: hi
remembrance spirit: the war
me: ok

snow cosmos
frigid tinsel
cobalt palm
rigid mural
frigid tinsel
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Or their light hardens due to darkness

lusty merlin
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OO YAYAY

keen shore
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Maybe this is what the inside of a petrified being looks like… oh I just got an incredibly gruesome idea

untold notch
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does ancestor light like oxidize? crystallize? on exposure to air

cobalt palm
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Someone hide the knives from Salem

lusty merlin
snow cosmos
untold notch
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went a little bit science mode oops

frigid tinsel
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Sky biologists shaking rn

lusty merlin
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nah dw its an intersting take

untold notch
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I'm so full of autism