lore-discussion-spoilers

[white junco]

speak to the questgiver, it will teleport you to the area

[snow cosmos]

"the"

[frigid tinsel]

Roll credits. ding

[lyric isle]

HI POEM TIME

[winter whale]

OK

[slim plume]

With the "Bare" play on words, maybe the Elders have finally stripped themselves of the metaphorical masks they wear. That they came together on the basis of trying to fix something, and that just this once, they should all trust each other once again.

Or maybe it's the opposite. "Bare" being used as how the Elders are unapologetic in their mistrust and judgement of each other. That the Eden diamond was nothing more than a little concern that unfortunately required all of them to be present.

Maybe that's what broke the diamond. Not any fracturing from its structure, but by the Elders themselves, ignorant (or unwilling to see) to the damage they've caused to both themselves and their realms

[eternal totem]

"Bewildered in final moments of stillness"

"In the final moment of shattering"

[opaque lotus]

do we think the lines of energy have any significance

[eternal totem]

Oh are we analyzing pixels now

[lyric isle]

“final moments” bookends 👀

[slim plume]

Not really sure, other than the fact the lines imply that the diamond's shattering caused something akin to a shockwave or explosion (also helped by the Elders flying after being thrown by this presumed explosion)

[white junco]

there’s similar red lightning in ascension

[frigid tinsel]

There’s also a shockwave in the frozen memory

[torn eagle]

Bare at the precipice

If it does indeed refer to both a literal precipice and a figurative one. the literal one may refer to the diamond being bare, exposed, while the figurative one may refer to the infighting between elders or the spirits themselves looks at wasteland

Unseen fractures crumble in the chasm

Same as the first line, if it refers to both literal and figurative meanings. The diamond is starting to crack perhaps due to overloading (or something), while the figurative meaning could be related to the figurative precipice in the first line.

The stars under fathomless weight

I have to admit that yes the elders are referred here as stars. They are under fathomless weight trying to fix the diamond at the same time quell the infighting amongst them.

Reaching to light and to dark

I believe this refers to the elders trying to use all means to fix things, both light and dark for the diamond. while for the infighting it may refer to them reaching to those that sided with the light and those that sided with the dark to stop fighting.

Carrying memory of all that was held

Admittedly I have no clue what this pertains to as of now

In the final moment of shattering

All this happened as the diamond is on the brink of exploding

[lyric isle]

lore chat is having a very wonderful meal tonight

[opaque lotus]

my theory is that the diamond was stable at one point, but all the fighting and disagreements between elders and them neglecting their realms was what caused the explosion and death of the world

[eternal totem]

Mmmmm, I don't think so exactly

[frigid tinsel]

We got a full out literary analysis here

[opaque lotus]

i am also not a lore expert! this is just my theory :)) if i got anything wrong please say so

[gentle jolt]

I thought the carrying memory line referred to the memory quests themselves that the shards carry, but it could also refer to the elders being forced to carry the memory of what the kingdom used to be and all they used to have :c

[slim plume]

Carrying memory of all that was held

Could refer to the fact that darkstone seems to be capable of holding memories. Maybe the Elders, in their desperation, are trying to go back to their roots? Trying to reach out to Megabird in a last ditch-effort attempt at saving the realms?

Oooh, that's a good thought Crystal-

[fickle wing]

i want 2 eat tje poem

[white junco]

HI KRII

[rigid mural]

Bare at the precipice
Unseen fractures crumble in the chasm

POV you're at the edge of a big hole and something crumbling falls in

The stars under fathomless weight
Reaching to light and dark

Likely the elders struggling in their last moments imo

Carrying memory of all that was held
In the final moment of shattering

The stars (elders) could have stored all these memories

[fickle wing]

HI
my brain is too mushy rn 2 form like a coherent thought abt the poem but like Man

[keen shore]

Can you elaborate? I feel like I kinda get you (the Eden mural does seem to imply that the diamond didn’t blow up Instantly) but I’m kinda failing to understand the whole interpersonal distrust -> physical flaws in the diamond reasoning if that’s ok

[slim plume]

Whiplash analyzing this poem while having Girl in Red play in the background but anyway-

[hollow sun]

the fathomless weight could be both the tough responsibility we have and a metaphorical weight that dislodged us from the heavens

[eternal totem]

I repeat, the track for the memory is called "The Unfathomable Nothing"

[fickle wing]

actually no wait one(1) thought
the unseen fractures bit makes me tjink of like
problems being covered up or ignored but eventually just all falling apart

[torn eagle]

what if the carrying line means they are carrying the memory of everything that has happened until now and decided to fix the diamond at all cost even at the cost of their lives? 🤔

[frigid tinsel]

If the Eden diamond was made in desperation, it could’ve been rushed and any physical or mechanical flaws were waved off.

[fickle wing]

YEAH

[raw crypt]

back from posting all the poems on tymblr like a normal person ok hi

[keen shore]

YEAH especially because there was a whole entire war in wasteland! and also obvious disagreements on how to use darkstone etc! maybe they never really got worked out before the elders died [I think it’s safe to use death as the closest term here?] And only got resolved or forgiven when they met each other after we helped them

[austere bridge]

WOOOOOOOOOO FINAL SHATTERING POEM WOOOOO

[torn eagle]

if this is the case do you think the seats in the vault where one is fallen down is like the meeting where they decide to make the diamond out of desperation and forest elder became enraged knowing the ramifications and walked out the meeting?

[frigid tinsel]

I don’t think those chairs can fit the Elders

[lusty merlin]

us with the poem:

[snow cosmos]

my thought at the moment (subject to change):

the Elders, under extreme pressure from their responsibility to their realms and people, turned to the diamond as a high-risk, high-reward solution to the problem they were facing. the amount of energy, both light and dark, that the diamond was being used to harness put too much strain on it, causing existing fissures and cracks to open up. knowing the explosion was coming and would devastate the area around, the Elders used the diamond as it was shattering to preserve the last moments of everything that was about to be wiped out

[slim plume]

The thought that there were probably some spirits still fighting when the diamond shattered or post-apocalypse because the fights were never resolved makes my heart 💔

[eternal totem]

I don't think that room can fit the Elders in general (doesn't look like a meeting room either,) they just happen to own a comically large table for some reason

[keen shore]

YEAH THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING. AND ALSO HENCE WHY ALL THE ELDERS COULD HAVE GATHERED DESPITE ANY DISTRUST BECAUSE ITS A LIFE OR DEATH MATTER

[spring python]

They needed a place to put their comically large evil diamond

[keen shore]

Yeah I agree with this!! I love the idea that the memories are recorded on purpose, it reminds me of vault; I’m still trying to work out whether I believe it though or whether I think the diamond did that on its own since it seems to work like that. bc idk if the elders would’ve had time to do anything

[slim plume]

They knew that darkstone had the power to hold memory and went up to the rapidly deteriorating diamond knowingly not to fix it, but to modify it just enough so that when it eventually explodes, they'll be safely kept within as a memory.

Night Elder's the one closest to the diamond in the memory, it may be me just overthinking but I honestly believe that this is a valid theory

[spring python]

I always saw the power diamond aspect tied to an irl analogy of progress even at the cost of our own world’s well being, specially because that part of things is so explored on Forest which… I don’t wanna say it has anything to do with the Amazon just exemplifying things 💀

[random token]

My theory from poem: eden go boom.

[frigid tinsel]

TGC has been going ham with the environmentalist themes in Sky so you're not far off

[lusty merlin]

:”Hey,are you sure you don’t want to look at the revisions for the diamond? There could possibly be some flaws-“

:”it’ll be finee”

Seriously though the only speculation I can offer rn is the “carrying memory of all that was held” one.

Possibly meaning when the elders died and possibly got stuck in a sort of limbo, they carried all the memories of the kingdom with them, good and bad. Like a “life flashes before the eyes type of way” I would expand on this on my pocket Denison theory and why each elder ended up where they are in the game cutscenes but my break ends in 5 minutes, anywys have fun with the poem^^

[keen shore]

Oh yeah I definitely agree with you! Just wondering why this particular diamond was so horribly rushed since it seems capable of killing Everyone, not just causing environmental problems that can be easily ignored by at least some of the population. it seems like an act of desperation especially since we know the world was already getting darker & more corrupted at that point like GW, probably due to darkstone

[torn eagle]

what if the reason why spirits are still able to manifest in the physical world and wait for us to relive their memories are because of the elder carrying the memories? 🤔

[slim plume]

WAITWAITWAIT, AND THE SEASONAL AREAS BEING AS THE ELDERS GET STRONGER, THEY START TO REMEMBER MORE OF THEIR REALM AND ITS PEOPLE

[spring python]

I’m not sure either but I’m assuming maybe it was their way of taking things one step further. Creating something that maybe would be capable of reaching its ability and power to all realms, which also explains why, when things went so wrong, caused the shards to be able to fall everywhere

[torn eagle]

supports the "elders are the realms" theory

[keen shore]

I can see this! I’m not really trying to wonder why the diamond was created in the first place, just why it was created with such a high possibility of exploding instead of perfected so that it wouldn’t. like, it feels rushed

[lusty merlin]

okay but that makes so much sence!

before I go imagine when the very first moths came the cutscenes were much different in theory, elders unsure what to do but as more skykids showed up they realized they are slowly helping rebuild the kingdom, discovering more areas ect and help ascending the spirits. And with vault cutscene where their all togeather, maybe they have time to discuss everything before eventually forced back into their realms who knows. (K now I gtg💀)

[keen shore]

Oh I like this idea! I had the idea that spirits are petrified because the elder is as well, although it’s probably just because of darkness. However, the petrified trees in forest, all the wood & cloth furniture thats turned to stone, etc might hold true for this

[torn eagle]

oh I got beaned

was saying it reminds me of an incident relating to a power plant in russia

[spring python]

It kinda reminds me of Age of Enlightenment stuff where it’s like, they likened knowledge to light.
So offerings of light could be offerings of knowledge
I’m just reaching here LMAO

[frigid tinsel]

yea, I see it like that too – the first wave of skykids awoke the Elders for the first time since the Eden calamity, so the Elders didn't have the sureness they do in their temple cutscenes. with more skykids and more offerings of light keeping them conscious longer, they could convene and talk about their situation. they could even plan for how to introduce themselves to new skykids, like how Sunset's cutscene is so choreographed

[torn eagle]

thinking about it... as the seasons progressed we finally have an area where spirits actually roam looks at harmony hall it seems like the elders are becoming strong enough to break free from the clutches of the eden diamond (I remember about alasdairs theory about the elders being split into two or something like that)

oop sorry ping

[lusty merlin]

Yeah exactly! For me personally I can see the moths light being somewhat temporary, like the elders gain a little of their strength back with each flame but they’ll revert back to their original state. Isle’s mask and sight falling back to broken pieces as their swept back to their pocket demisions to wait for the next moth for example.

Maybe the diamond Vault has is like a bridge to the other pocket demisions somehow? And light is needed which could be why the other elders can’t visit one another as they please. Light they maybe don’t possess any longer that they need form skykids? (I’m just trying to work game mechanics with the lore-)

[lean kayak]

I'm sorry- what indicates that the elders were fighting with each other?

[torn eagle]

to be fair vaults shrine has all of the elders shrines in it sooo

[slim plume]

Gave me the little thought that we caught Rain on one of their sadge days in their cutscene and that they'd be more eloquent if we'd meditated at their temples at any other time.

On the flip side, imagine a non-broken-faced Dawn, an energetic Day, relaxed Sunset, a stronger Dusk (no arthritis attacking them and they don't have their spear this time), and a contented Night

[frigid tinsel]

in my skykid fic, Dawn's mask was unbroken when they first met my POV skykid as a moth, but when said skid returned, Dawn's mask was broken. Dawn's mask in Light Awaits crumples apart after summoning birds/boats, so it seems that even with the skykids' light offerings, they burn through their light just by existing and using their abilities.

Dawn, being the Elder of the least visited realm, may return to a more weakened state since they get less light

[spring python]

I find it really weird, to this day, that Dawn isn’t on the door to Eden (idk if they added them there but I’m assuming not since the last time I played)
((Took me a while to understand it was Dawn elder and not Dawn from Pokémon too 💀))

[lusty merlin]

Maybe over time they come to conserve more light than use it. (Would explain the twins from lifting the entire arena with thousands of birds to just playing a simple game💀 -in light awaits-)

[frigid tinsel]

I have this quip of Night trying their meager power to retrieve the other Elders to their realm.

so i think Vault Elder has the ability to summon the other Elders into their pocket dimension since they're all there in Vault's cutscene.

in my ficverse, after the Eden calamity, they were all locked away in their pocket dimensions but still alive for a time. Vault Elder tried summoning all the Elders to their space, but failed. they use the last of their light trying to reunite the other Elders, yet cannot reach them, and dies.

then the skykids' light offerings reawaken Vault Elder. at first, they have periods where they slowly build their strength then do one big push to try to call all the Elders back together, using up most of their light in the process. each time it fails and they pass out. the skykids reawaken them, oblivious to Vault Elder's struggle.

Vault Elder has only the knowledge in their mind to help them but isn't sure what the problem is. they keep trying, but each failure only brings them more sorrow. are they meant to be alone forever? it would be an apt punishment, they find, but they refuse to give up.

overtime, as each of the Elders regain their strength, Vault Elder is able to grasp a faint sense of their presences, something they never felt before. they use these wisps of this sensation for one more ritual, pushing nearly all of their light into it, and calls for the Elders. they stand on weary legs, waiting.

finally, the Elders arrive.

Vault Elder collapses in Dawn's arms and cries. they apologize for siding with the king for so long, for experimenting on the Valley Elder(s), for turning away from each other and Megabird. the other Elders form a big group hug and the warmth of their light keeps Vault Elder conscious.

[torn eagle]

relating it to your theory that split (portion of them in the shattering memories and another portion in these pocket dimensions) think it could suggest that there is still an existing connection between the two portions? one receives light but as the other is in an are where light is drained (maybe) then the light in the pocket dimension self gets drained too? 🤔

[slim plume]

Sunset's the most choreographed and energetic because skids kept meditating at their temples for their weaves /j

[lusty merlin]

Aw no that’s so sad I love it

[frigid tinsel]

oh that's a interesting take. I like that idea.
thing is, idk whether the Elders burned through light thus needed offerings during the ancestors era. was their own light enough to keep them functioning originally or is this a development because of the Eden calamity?

[lusty merlin]

I really hope one day we get more info about how it would work, seeing all the elders reunited in vault always intrigued me

[snow cosmos]

i imagine back in the day they got enough offerings with enough regularity to build up reserves

[frigid tinsel]

yea, that's what I think too, that the Elders could've regularly received light offerings from the ancestors. when the ancestors started dying out, there were less to give them light offerings, and with their light they withered away

[torn eagle]

wouldnt that mean ancestors worshipped the elders more than the megabird?

actually I think it could be the reverse instead. megabird gives light to the elders, elders pass the light onto the realms and the ancestors

hence when the stars fell so did the light fade away

[snow cosmos]

i headcanon that the elders were seen as both community leaders and like... liasons? maybe? between the Ancestors and Megabird/the Light, kind of like some religious leaders are seen as the go-between for their followers to communicate with their god(s)

[lusty merlin]

Maybe it was a hallowknight situation? (If ppl here know the story of it)

[mossy bay]

You mean like a disciple?

[torn eagle]

With the stars united, our light was infinite
...and together, we lived in harmony.
As spirits, we soon became many
...creating our home here in the clouds.
But darkness came and the stars fell...
...and with their light we faded away.
A long time has passed. Now we call to you.
Go forth, child. Return our spirits to the stars.

the new intro in isle of dawn for reference

[snow cosmos]

i don't think that's quite the right word either, i imagine it was more like

Megabird <--> Elders <--> Ancestors
(i don't believe there was actually a direct one-to-one communication between Megabird and anyone due to the nature of Their being, but calling it that is simpler)

[spring python]

Do we have any indication that the people even knew of megabird? /Gen

[frigid tinsel]

Forgotten Ark mural

[lusty merlin]

Flight symbol aswell if that counts

[frigid tinsel]

I don't believe Megabird can influence the world below directly, so They send down stars to do Their bidding. first it was the Elders to ensure the ancestors were guiding light to the Light (relevant fic excerpts attached). second it was Chosen One. third, when the last two failed, skykids.

[torn eagle]

now that I think about it it makes sense that megabird is used as the symbol for season of flight

it is the first season that connects the realms together and megabird is about unity and connection

[lusty merlin]

May i ask where you got these images? Haven’t seen anything like it before until now

[keen shore]

Given the fact that 2/3 of these solutions have failed I think maybe They might need to branch out or something

[lusty merlin]

Maybe “third times a charm” is their motto

[frigid tinsel]

these are excerpts from my fanfic "We Are One & I Am Two," which is about the Valley Elder(s). you can read it on ao3 here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/40284843

[spring python]

Maybe the elders are made directly with Megabird’s light and that’s what connects them to orbit

[hushed steeple]

Baffon

[lusty merlin]

Oo that’s where! I thought it was an offical source but I’ve read it before! (Amazing story btw I loved it)

[frigid tinsel]

my Sky fics are borne from my lore musings, I just use them to further explain my ideas

[keen shore]

-> I’m worried the ancestors will do something bad maybe we need to send some guides to watch over them
-> ok now they’re fighting and this doesn’t look like this will go well so now we are sending down another one of them but a kid this time
-> oh god that went horribly. wait. we have the best solution. the same thing we did last time but now there needs to be 1000000000 of them
-> hope this works

[grim python]

pretty sure some stuff like prairie temple entrance and those flight sign things depict megabird so yea probably

[lusty merlin]

And you do a really great job at it! I’ve been wanting to write how the elders felt with the isolation in the pocket dmeisions but I haven’t gotten around to it

[eternal totem]

It depicts their connection to the light I think, as Megabird imagery becomes irrelevant in later realms

[torn eagle]

replaced by symbols of the king and the ancestors

[mossy bay]

what is making y’all liken this symbol to the megabird? It just looks like a golden weathervane to me?

[torn eagle]

quick show them the spaghetti monster

[spring python]

If you look it from left to right it looks like a big duck (that’s not relevant I just think it’s funny)

[eternal totem]

Azaura knows of the credits/concepts Megabird I assume? (You do, right?)

[frigid tinsel]

resembles this concept Megabird but turned on its side

[spring python]

Not the bird having glamorous hair 😭

[echo horizon]

hi there! after the last season quest poem got posted I was looking for the earlier posts to read them all again but I'm having trouble finding some
does anyone here have all the poems that were posted on the socials for the season quests?

[mossy bay]

Hmmm i see no resemblance at all… maybe to a normal bird because of the wing detail

[eternal totem]

Dang, that's not going well either, they're overwhelmed by eruptions

[torn eagle]

I beg to disagree--

[eternal totem]

Then beg.

[frigid tinsel]

thank you for your kind words go and shoot for the moon with your own writing. I'm really fond of writing about the Elders that sees them multidimensionally and explores their thoughts. I've been waiting on the Elder frozen memory poem so I could get some insight onto what the Elders were feeling or doing in that moment so I can write the memory Amander receives when they get sharded.

[slate saffron]

👁️

[raw crypt]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

Hi!! here’s a compilation of all the poems, with links to the individual poem messages!

[spring python]

Skykids have more to worry about with candle inflation than eruptions tbh

I like the idea of megabird kinda slouching in the back and not influencing things too much like “aight I created everything now y’all handle this” and then everyone messes it up so badly it changes it’s mind

[echo horizon]

thank you so much

[mossy bay]

The megabird is such an ominous figure in the game do you think it’s possible that players try to assign it too much meaning in the game? Like that picture of the bird in the stars that i still believe is just a swirl of stars

[slim plume]

--> Time to dispatch Plan Number 4 [Eradicates the world]

[frigid tinsel]

I see Megabird as a rather hands-off god — They can’t do much and really don’t want to do much to interfere, seeing how beings of light carry themselves out since they all have free will.

[snow cosmos]

i've mentioned this before but i think of Megabird as being the collective awareness of the galaxy and everything in it, distantly aware of what's going on but unable to directly change it any more than we can intentionally direct our organs or cells to function

[ebon bear]

Hey i was wondering this ever since the last memory shard, but did all the spirits die the moment eden shard exploded, since they all died young??

[lusty merlin]

Oo that sounds so cool I can’t wait for it! on the bright side I have been making a footnote for what I want to happen, just haven’t gotten to officially writing

[torn eagle]

suddenly analyzing the poems again made my brain go overdrive for a moment kekw

[spring python]

I personally see them as dormant too

[lusty merlin]

Just for angst reasons I like to think a few survived for awhile but didn’t last long

[eternal totem]

Personally I think the blast wasn't a large kaboom that wiped everything & crumbled everything to dust, it blew over the balance between light & dark, causing it be more rampant throughout the realms, the closest to the blast obviously died, though. Some seasonal spirits are implied (or confirmed?) to be post-eruption

[torn eagle]

whcih ones were confirmed? for curiositys sake

[eternal totem]

I don't think any were...? I'm not sure, I could only think of Abyss as implied

[slim plume]

Not entirely sure any were confirmed, but Abyss and Performance (due to the unfinished painting of Eden erupting in Harmony Hall) are implied. Lightseekers could also be implied to be post-apoc with what limited lore we have on them

[mossy bay]

Id say all the main spirits in gw who are interacting with the fallen city too

[torn eagle]

ah so no official confirmation?

tbh I think abyss is pre-eruption where a crew set of to the abandoned remains of the treasure reef to salvage darkstone and sell them to a still thriving valley or the bleak wasteland

as for the performance crew... I think pre eruption just that the painting has been painted when its starting to go downhill (yknow while the elders were workin on a fix)

[slim plume]

Abyss seems mainly post-apocalyptic due the the clothing the spirits wear, but you could be right with that one

[lusty merlin]

This got me thinking but isles realm being a desert confuses me, isles in real life usually have a lot of greenery like seen the the switch and incoming animation trailer. I first thought the eruption caused it (maybe wasteland being so close snuffed our any type of life left.)

But isle is the farthest from the realm, and it’s the only realm with no darkstone technology so I don’t know how a realm that was once a lively market became a barren waste

[torn eagle]

wasteland in the teasers were shown to have green grass..

[eternal totem]

Not me forgetting the existence of GW in its entirety

[lusty merlin]

Isint it also canonically called“golden valley” and is the down town of valley of triumph? I remember tweet about it from sky’s offical Twitter but I can’t remember where

*wait now I remember I have a screenshot of it for evidence of an old theory I have hold on^

[slim plume]

If we're going off of "The Elders are thier realms" theory, then perhaps the desertification of Isle was because Dawn was practically "deserted" from the other elders, most likely because they didn't support darkstone production. With Isle being a passing-by realm, and the fact that Dawn cut themselves off from the other realms, it might also be due to the fact that Dawn cannot afford to waste light on trying to preserve their realm. And so starts its desertification process

[torn eagle]

its part of the valley... "expose" but I believe a part of wasteland is a part of valley, which was once called golden valley (i think its the stretch from the end of the valley temple until the wasteland social space)

[frigid tinsel]

in a 7 Days of Sky tweet about concept Valley of Triumph, they said that there was a "golden valley" that was the downtown area of the city. I think the first part of Wasteland, especially what's covered in clouds when we transition to the Wasteland social space, is golden valley – or rather what is left of it.
7 Days of Sky — Valley of Triumph: https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1283925628371099648

there are also similarities between Wasteland and Valley architecture. here's this one comparison photo, I have to get my phone for more

this insignia is found in Valley, Wasteland, and Treasure Reef

[torn eagle]

note: the whole of the end of valley (after meditating on valley shrine) is part of the wasteland social space. I believe that is golden valley (like what al said)

[spring python]

The best realm #GWSweep

[lusty merlin]

Oo Yeah I remember having a theory of the broken temple with the first krill originally belonging the twins. But yeah it was a part of valley now that I really think about my theory again

[lusty merlin]

And omg that symbol I’ve seen smaller versions of it everywhere, even on the eden door in home space 😭 I’ve always wanted to count how many there were in the game for fun

[torn eagle]

tbh I think the second picture the building came from somewhere high up and landed onto the spot scared refugee was standing 🤔

[lusty merlin]

Im grasping at straws but what if valley was joint ruled by the twins and Wasteland, and that symbol could represent that? Full diamond on top represents wasteland elder, split diamonds representing the twins, one half for each twin

[frigid tinsel]

I think that too, that’s exactly what I think

[torn eagle]

that... makes sense... twins in charge of entertainment and economy while dusk in charge of military and security.. huh

[lusty merlin]

Could also silently show power dynamics, like who had more say on what happens in the valley, so the diamond on top being gw elder could mean they had a higher authority of the twins

[torn eagle]

its like dusk is in charge of being their keeper. keeping them in check and not let them get overboard

[frigid tinsel]

could be that Sunset primarily oversaw whatever was on the mountains and Dusk primarily oversaw whatever was on the lowlands

[torn eagle]

no wonder the golden valley is prosperous. and maybe also why tsadi is tired as heck

[lusty merlin]

Oo yeah, could explain the downtown thing too.

It’s a little cute in a way to me? I have a whole found family dynamic with the elders so to me, I see Gw elder being a somewhat stern parental figure to the twins while the twins are just happy to joint rule valley with them

[keen shore]

I personally imagine all the elders as equally authoritative, it’s weird for me to imagine one of them being above others . It doesn’t feel right idk I get the vibe they can all take care of themselves and are smart enough to be independent without messing up everything

[torn eagle]

yea.. hm maybe while twins have direct supervision of the highlands while dusk have direct supervision over the lowlands

with highlands being an area for the rich they crave for entertainment hence the twins, while the lowlands are for the poor, crime is rampant hence dusk is there to maintain order

[frigid tinsel]

I prefer to think the entirety of the realm was properous. Yea there were class differences but nobody was poor

[lusty merlin]

Fair enough, I guess I meant some of them are like teachers to the others if that makes sence Isle especially

[snow cosmos]

i feel like each Elder has authority over their own realm and are equal in matters that involve multiple or all of them

[torn eagle]

but dusk has full control over military and security hence they still have some authority over the highlands

while rn headcanoning that valley twins are more well versed in economy matters especially related to entertainment hence they still have some authority in the lowlands

[lusty merlin]

Ah geez would that mean pre eruption Gw elder was also called elder of the valley along with the twins or would it also be “Elder of the Golden valley”?

[eternal totem]

"Big Mike"

[frigid tinsel]

Thought given Dawn seemed to have been less respected at some point, there may not have been official differences in authority but unspoken implied ones

[glacial storm]

So…any guesses what that huge star is at the end of the shattering? Wanna bet they are pulling the king back into the lore or something similar…

[lusty merlin]

From what I remember I don’t think we came to the conclusion of a solid idea but I could be wrong

[eternal totem]

What if it's the King's being reborn or something idk

[torn eagle]

oh right its called the working class

it makes sense that the refinery is in wasteland since its the downtown area where the working class are

while the wealthy are up above enjoying the entertainment presented to them

[eternal totem]

Ignore me I never took King lore that seriously

[glacial storm]

Eden is corrupted As of right now meaning whoever it is tried to be reborn and it failed, corrupt the realms and everyone going “Aw man my family :(“ (I hate auto correct)

[eternal totem]

What do you mean by creating the realms? You meant corrupting?

[lusty merlin]

King lore is just stale crumbs we get somtimes but we savor it none the less

[eternal totem]

I do not, we are not the same.

[lusty merlin]

Fair enough💀

[eternal totem]

Finding King lore stale crumb on the street & feeding it to a pigeon (you guys)

[glacial storm]

Well season of belonging sorta confirmed a big boom wiping everyone out happened, when you collect the spirits they look lost and afraid

[eternal totem]

Now hold on, the story of Belonging is that they all separated to look for a gift for Grandma, due to the nature of memories corrupting, they must've have forgotten why they originally were there. You are granted a bell from Grandma themselves to remind them & call for them to reunite the family. This is Wild

[spring python]

Did they find the gift

[eternal totem]

Yeah, each one of them was supposed to bring a gift to the table, Confetti brought flowers, Pleaful brought a crab, etc,
It's in their memory itself

Belonging is the least season to confirm this, Abyss is right there

[distant turtle]

Best. Poem. Evar. 👑

[lusty merlin]

(Idk why I’m obsessing over this) Would Gw elder and the twins all share the tiltle of Elder of the Valley? And ancestors/spirits call Gw elder “elder of the valley” and nickname the twins as just the twins so it’s easier to refer to who they’re taking about?

I wouldn’t give the twins “Acting Elder of the valley) because they are officially elders, idk if there’s a term for this sort of thing

[frigid tinsel]

Perhaps they ruled separate realms but said realms were so interlocked that they seemed like one realm and treated them as one, taking different responsibilities

[distant turtle]

I like the idea that the first Krill area was previously an Elder’s temple. And that maybe the Colosseum or the WL fortress might not have been originally.

[lusty merlin]

i have an exact theory on this, that it was the twins original temple, and that wind cyclone we see before entering Gw was also made by the twins to keep krill in Gw

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

Here if anyone is up to reading a whole two part text block about it💀

[distant turtle]

Something that I wonder about is all those elevated roads that seem to have once existed. the Valley races and all around WL seems to contain chunks of road that fell and now lay on the ground. Perhaps it would have been more organic and less like a one way trip layout back then.

[keen shore]

What they might have meant is that the reason the family didn’t reunite on their own is because they were separated when the blast happened? I can kinda see it, although there are better seasons for it I think

[distant turtle]

I must have learned the idea from you!

[lusty merlin]

my propaganda is spreading

[eternal totem]

It's confusing with the old spirit format being spread across the realms, but I strictly think of Belonging as a pre-big-kaboom season, it's all cute & cuddly after what Lightseekers may have implied

[ebon bear]

Where do yall find these murals with the elders and elements? Prophecy cave?

[eternal totem]

Yes, Prophecy cave

[flint bolt]

I actually did a live stream going to every single mural in the game.

There's not that many actually, and only one of them comes with text.

[eternal totem]

Oh you're a Sky player? Name every mural

[sharp lichen]

*A1, *A2, *A3, ….

[flint bolt]

Counter meme:

THEY'RE NOT NAMED

[frigid tinsel]

pspspsps Salem

[eternal totem]

Coward

[sharp lichen]

What if I named them

[south oracle]

This one's Jeffrey, this one's Bob...

[plush rain]

a more accurate meme:

oh you're a Sky player? Name every spirits.

[lusty merlin]

-Cracks knuckles-

Isle: Cutscene mural, star mural where that giant rock is in isle, that mural of Isle in the candle maker cave, another isle mural under the temple, that mural on the front of the gate inside the temple, prophecy cave

Prarie
That mural on the top island in sanctuary

Forest: i think there’s one in Windpaths of the bird

Valley: Aurora mural in harmony hall

Wasteland: Ark boat murals, the crab murals for crab walk

Vault: the mural of the prince with the sneeze emote, the constellations in vault elders cutscene of all the elders

Eden: king mural

I think that’s all that are auctally in the game💀💀

[eternal totem]

Pointing Candlemaker, Ushering Stargazer, Re

[torn eagle]

ho? a challenge?

[eternal totem]

Googles Sky Wiki

Are you actually typing them out

[keen shore]

Dear god even I don’t want to list them all out

[eternal totem]

You have to now

[keen shore]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FQgj2Ii1A9p1kSly9rehvZU-fPsKtGazuEGvE3Od-Bg/edit listen it’s missing a few but close enough right

[eternal totem]

Zhii I recommend sending in parts lest you get sniped by auto filter

[keen shore]

what do you MEAN not many of them I’ve collected so much, there’s got to be maybe a hundred pictures in there

[lusty merlin]

-casually saves this-

[eternal totem]

Fake Sky player spotted

[torn eagle]

Pointing Candlemaker, Ushering Stargazer, Rejecting Voyager, Sassy Drifter, Piggyback Lightseeker, Boogie Kid, Troupe Greeter, Prophet of Water, Prophet of Earth, Prophet of Air, Prophet of Fire

[keen shore]

alasdairs kill list ^

[eternal totem]

Hm, we'll allow it. Joyous *hands you a treat

[eternal totem]

You forgot Scrimblo Bimblo the Lovable Crimblo from Light Awaits

[keen shore]

Oh, you’re an Isle fan? Name every grain of sand

[lusty merlin]

One. Two. Three. Four-

[flint bolt]

Then I will treasure you as a real friend

[keen shore]

Forgot the unnamed spirit from rejecting voyager’s memory, fake fan

[lusty merlin]

#unamedspiritsweep

[eternal totem]

Dammit my joke, it got sniped

[frigid tinsel]

Hissing

[keen shore]

yeah what about the prophets’ students, did you forget those too, that’s what I thought

[lusty merlin]

We’ve exhausted our brains with the poem and this is how we recharge💀

[torn eagle]

Butterfly Charmer, Applauding Bellmaker, Waving Bellmaker, Slumbering Shipwright, Laughing Lightcatcher, Ceremonial Worshiper, Bird Whisperer, Exhausted Dockworker, Stretching Guru, Doublefive Lightcatcher, Confetti Cousin, Festival Spindancer, Grateful Shell Collector, Timid Bookworm, Chill Sunbather, Rallying Thrillseeker, Jellyfish Whisperer, Hiking Grouch

||Salem jesus your standards XXD||

[keen shore]

IM JOKING FIR COARIFICATION AISJWIWKFJG

[lusty merlin]

I always forget worshiper is a spirit I always skip the cutscene 💀

[frigid tinsel]

Madlad is actually doing it

[eternal totem]

Folks insinuate the King is a killing machine that has reaped the souls of thousands & even millions just because, no one bats an eye. I KILL ONE SPIRIT, SOCIETY

[lusty merlin]

-me using google-

[raw crypt]

I USED TO BE ABLE TO DO IT and i probably still can i jsyt always forget the second part to meditating

[eternal totem]

Meditating Monica

[frigid tinsel]

This is exactly it oml

[eternal totem]

Alasdair Joker arc

[frigid tinsel]

It’s just one ancestor for narrative sake

[eternal totem]

Just one, as a treat

[lusty merlin]

Offtopic but Im curious, what type of government would sky be? From little research I’ve done it could be a Oligarchy? Basically a small group of people (elders and king) have control in leading, but who knows there could be like a council aswell. Just been thinking about it and wanna see if other people have different ideas .

[torn eagle]

Shivering Trailblazer, Blushing Prospector, Pouty Porter, Hide'n'Seek Pioneer, Apologizing Lumberjack, Dismayed Hunter, Whale Whisperer, Tearful Lightminer, Provoking Performer, Laidback Pioneer, Hairtousle Teen, Admiring Actor, Daydream Forester, Scolding Student, Chuckling Scout, Scaredy Cadet, Baffled Botanist, Marching Adventurer, Lively Navigator, Talented Builder, Light Whisperer, Tinkering Chimesmith

Im gonna go home and continue this kekw this is fun

[eternal totem]

How would I know you're not looking at the Wiki 🤨

[torn eagle]

I made sure to list them in order, for regular spirits its by area, for seasonal its order of seasons

[eternal totem]

Nah I meant since you're going for a bit, just teasing

[torn eagle]

I could react to every message while im fixing stuff and go home XD

[distant turtle]

“Bare at the Precipice”…

[eternal totem]

I hate to break it to y'all but that's a bug mural, it's at Sanctuary Islands— in its place is the correct mural, which is jellyfishes

[distant turtle]

I still love it and it retells the entire lore in one ridiculous image

[eternal totem]

Yeah you're right lmao

[lusty merlin]

Tsadi throwing the prince like a boomerang as the other elders watch /j

[eternal totem]

Resh is divorced from Tsadi for the 12th time, Tsadi flees the scene, as Resh falls to their knees & quietly sobs the ugliest cry; the Elders watch

Sky was all a dream & the Prince is in a coma for 12 years

[lusty merlin]

Why do I imagine a soap opera Preformance of this😭

Why did I giggle at the coma photo-💀

[snow cosmos]

goodnight sweet prince

[eternal totem]

*Honks my clown nose *

[spring python]

The Forest Elder is actually Dumbledore, proof: the hair

[lusty merlin]

They reveal their true form on days of mischief

[eternal totem]

You're so funny queen, love you

[spring python]

Their head looking like the prophecy symbol is weird

[lusty merlin]

I think that’s on purpose. Prophecy, future prince looking like the symbol because prophecy was fulfilled maybe

[spring python]

Or maybe the prophecy was about a certain thing the prince became one with

[frigid tinsel]

The figure under the diamond in the Eden mural has that aura too

[lusty merlin]

Omg The king releaseing their giant pet darkstone diamond that was possibly not given a look over to take light from the entire kingdom!!! (Maybe)

[eternal totem]

Prince slipped on a banana this is so sad!

[lusty merlin]

The other elders not being there makes me think either this was a king only ceremony or they excluded

Also the king in the memeory confuses me, like are they being sucked into the diamond?

Is the kind in the middle of making a worm whole from being sucked in and thus making the pocket demisions for the elders? Who knows?

[south oracle]

Got smacked like a baseball

[eternal totem]

Either King was gone, born/reborn, or they were present but the nature of these frozen memories doesn't allow for much to be recorded/remembered

[slim plume]

"SLAM DUNK-!"

[lusty merlin]

True, a picture can paint a thousands words but a cutscene would help a whole lot more

[spring python]

It might have been the creation/powering of the big diamond, which was a different point in time from its burst

[eternal totem]

The King simply ceased to exist ala Madoka Kaname becoming the Law of Cycle

[lusty merlin]

Yeah true, I’m still unsure why the elders arnet atleast included in the mural, like that’s a big event

[spring python]

May also indicate the move was the king’s idea and their idea only, but I doubt that

[eternal totem]

It does sound plausible

[torn eagle]

Confident Sightseer, Handstanding Thrillseeker, Manta Whisperer, Backflipping Champion, Cheerful Spectator, Proud Victor, Bowing Medalist, Leaping Dancer, Twirling Champion, Sparkler Parent, Troupe Juggler, Bearhug Hermit, Dancing Performer, Spinning Mentor, Peeking Postman, Mellow Musician, Frantic Stagehand, Forgetful Storyteller, Modest Dancer

[lusty merlin]

Elders:” we should really look over the diamond”

King:” Oh the one I already put up?”

Elders:”😦”

[slim plume]

Top 10 Moments Taken Before Disaster

[lusty merlin]

okay but i can see this happening, the king having the mentality that their the king they can do whatever they want

[spring python]

“You guys will never believe what I did!!!” explosion in the back

[eternal totem]

Mmmmmmm, I don't think so

[lusty merlin]

“Jokes on them tho, I’ve poisoned their pizzas with… C4!”

-explosion shockwave coming at rapid speed- /ref

[distant turtle]

So the poem tells me that the energy captured in the dark stones really still belonged to the stars no matter how the elders tried to rationalize the dark stones as their own creation.

[spring python]

I personally think that the Prophecy was a warning, like, the season mantra being “beware of the prophecy” makes me thing it was basically them saying “dude, don’t” but they did it anyways

[lusty merlin]

There’s so many possibilities to think of so we’ll never know for sure

[distant turtle]

Maybe it was energy gathered from exploiting the wildlife and logging & mining but still that is all ultimately energy that belongs to The Light

[spring python]

And then that’s also where “if only they had listened” would have come from

[distant turtle]

There is that ominous wind or swirl of stars like they are about to fall, and then below that deep in the clouds a krill

[torn eagle]

Fainting Warrior, Frightened Refugee, Courageous Soldier, Stealthy Survivor, Saluting Captain, Lookout Scout, Saluting Protector, Crab Whisperer, Pleaful Parent, Respectful Pianist, Scarecrow Farmer, Nodding Muralist, Playfighting Herbalist, Indifferent Alchemist, Snoozing Carpenter, Crab Walker, Cackling Canoneer, Bumbling Boatswain, Anxious Angler, Ceasing Commodore

[spring python]

Also this may be me just throwing ideas out there but it’d be interesting if the diamond was meant to be powered with light directly from the orbit too, and that image of its creation wasn’t light coming out, it was light coming in. And when the diamond exploded it scattered beings from the orbit away on the land (winged lights) and that’s why the beginning of the game asks you to bring them back home

[tepid veldt]

im late but
NEW POEM NEW POEM NEW POEM!!!

[torn eagle]

Praying Acolyte, Levitating Adept, Polite Scholar, Meditating Monastic, Memory Whisperer, Greeting Shaman, Shushing Light Scholar, Wise Grandparent, Thoughtful Director, Sneezing Geographer, Slouching Soldier, Beckoning Ruler, Gloating Narcissist, Stretching Lamplighter, Star Collector

And... i think thats it

[distant turtle]

I love this idea too and I think maybe that’s why the diamond had to be up high on the mountain peak! They wanted to harness that mega light beam and draw energy directly from the stars! This idea also might inform why the King would be directly above the diamond involved in some kind of beam of doom action.

[torn eagle]

@plush rain the challenge is completed kekw

[plush rain]

o_o wow

[eternal totem]

Congrats, you get NOTHING!

[torn eagle]

I got something out of it

A break from doing anything tiring lmao

I swear im not a workaholic and have totally slept

[plush rain]

you get a free hug from me

[spring python]

Yeaah I also get that impression since it seems like the creatures flying to orbit are leaving the diamond directly

[distant turtle]

that’s a nice interpretation that I never considered

[spring python]

It kinda reminds me of Frankenstein in a way though in the “man tries to play god and everyone has to pay the consequences” but unlike Frankenstein I think the king would have had better intentions 😭

[torn eagle]

Dont hurt me I have your name listed there!

[tepid veldt]

i got home like 5 mins ago so im spitting what ive seen (and what many, MANY other people have seen) and lurking
-poem is a tad longer (more lore )
-“unseen fractures crumble in the chasm” makes it seem like the diamond wasnt meant to explode (which it probably wasnt in the first place.) what is the chasm, though?
-“reaching to light and to dark” is this like, the elders willingly taking in dark energy/using darkstone or whatever to try and calm the eden diamond along with their light?

[distant turtle]

So, all those memories, the jellies, the crabs, they were all migrating to the diamond instead of the light? Like it was a decoy to ensnare their energy?

[torn eagle]

@tepid veldt my interpretation kek--

[spring python]

I guess maybe not a decoy on purpose but it ended up serving that

[gleaming fog]

It mentions “the stars under fathomless weight” was the diamond absorbing the megabird too?

[spring python]

I think the diamond blew up because it couldn’t handle anymore though, which ultimately threw off the balance of things away

[tepid veldt]

woah thank you! that was very helpful. pretty much have the same surface level thoughts as you i havent got many theories/whatevers about the elders although the infighting seems cool

[copper saffron]

Mmmmm poem

[torn eagle]

Huh if I try to group them into two makes even more sense

First and Second line same things as my interpretation

Third and Fourth same as well

But for Fifth amd Sixth.. possible that it refers to the memories found inside the shards?

[tepid veldt]

i was thinking about that, it didn’t explicitly say where said memories would be so i got a tad confused

minus third and fourth lines, the poem seems to be mostly abt the diamond, so i guess its inferred?

[distant turtle]

I am beginning to think that the diamond captured and held all those life forms prisoner in a void, a lot like they appear in the memories, and like how we experience after death in Eden when we meet the glow kid/fallen King. Upon shattering, I guess the void space remains, but those life forms now only exist as the frozen memories we saw, suffocated holographic memories of the final moments of the imprisoned creatures. “Carrying the memory of all that was held, in the final moment of shattering”

the memory of all that was held

[torn eagle]

Before I had a theory where the red diamond stores both light and memory due to its location (at the light beam where creatures go to ascend and be reborn)

And because if this it became overloaded

[distant turtle]

So the question remains, was it better that the diamond shattered or would it have been better if it continued functioning?

[torn eagle]

Darkstone may not be able to handle the effects of having both functions active (memory storage and light/energy storage and conductor)

As normally darkstone is either refined into power diamonds and used as a battery or upgraded into memory cubes which stores memories

[spring python]

Personally I think the idea of the diamond was bound to always fail on theory, it even feels a bit cruel

[copper saffron]

Perhaps fathomless weight could refer to an emotional/moral burden?

[distant turtle]

They created a cosmic ouroboros!

[torn eagle]

It was pointed out awhile ago that the eden diamond seemed much more rushed and imperfect than usual power diamonds

[tepid veldt]

unrelated (well kind of not really) but i was thinking about my eden headcannon again (basically i think that we are inside the eden diamond when we die)
it kind of feels like youre “moving on a different timeline” if that makes sense, like everything is happening all around you but youre sort of in your own headspace until you hug the child. the eden rocks in the background are falling super fast and we are super slow.
i just thought of this, but..are we in the process of becoming a new memory? only to stop it because the child is there?

[eternal totem]

I always thought it was implied that we are inside the diamond when we die? Unable to Ascend until someone else comes to our aid

Dunno about the memory part though, don't really think so but it would be interesting I think? There's definitely more frozen memories than the game can allow

[spring python]

Help I read that as a ship 😭
Dog x Rock 🥺

[eternal totem]

New divorce timeline

[copper saffron]

The light boi we hug at the end is probably a memory too

[snow cosmos]

@tepid veldt here are my collected thoughts if you're interested

[distant turtle]

I never believed it but I totally agree now

[tepid veldt]

poem dropped while i was in school so if anybody has their interpretations of it please ping me, id love to read them

id also like to ask how much lorechat lost their minds when it dropped

[opaque lotus]

i wonder if the flight bird caretaker's birds ever go looking for them

[distant turtle]

My interpretation of the overall experience is that the King tried to draw power down from Orbit to bind it into the diamond, but that’s their own life force out there, the King’s perhaps most of all due to the unique nature of the King’s being. So, drawing power from the stars included the King, and so the diamond also absorbed the King while it was supercharging way beyond its limit.

Like imagine sky kids gaining winged light power by peeling stars out of the sky. We might get a lot of power but that’s our own essence we’d be tapping. Eventually we would ourselves become a winged light and become absorbed into ourselves and be like the King, kind of deleted from the world.

[untold notch]

what an awful day for my phone to be broken!

[velvet pulsar]

Is the Eden diamond “man” made? I was always under the impression that it was a natural thing and treated as a kind of holy grounds. I thought the smaller power diamonds were man made to try and copy the Eden diamond on a smaller scale. Is it implied to be manmade?

[distant turtle]

I guess. All those huge pipes seem to be related to it

[keen shore]

🤝

[hushed steeple]

question: i know it's probably a strange question; but, do you think sky could have some kind of inspiration from religious history? Vault elder, season of enchantment and season of performance do show some religious traces - (like journey did ((and does follow some similarities in storyline))) I don't know how to explain without my question being messy but yeah.

[frigid tinsel]

the cycle of rebirth is reminiscent of the cycle in Hinduism. there are also some Buddhist inspirations as we can see from Tom Zhao's concept of flame. the Prairie bell towers are also reminiscent of a Buddhist structure I can't remember the name of right now

[eternal totem]

Tibet?

[astral jay]

Whats in this castle?

[frigid tinsel]

nobody knows

[gentle jolt]

The king probably lived there at some point, but I doubt anyone’s in there now

Imagine if there was though, that’d be cool

[bright spade]

some structures in prairie are really similar to stupas and gumbas(probably the Buddhist structures you were talking about) or just monasteries in my opinion
ive seen them in nepal and tibet and thats the first thing i thought about when i played sky

[ashen shell]

Glad folks are having fun with that last poem
Time to add a pin to the collection

[wheat cypress]

So I just read all this and everything after it... and iirc the measurement I went off of for my skid's height was 3'2"... idk if that helps. Also I'm extremely not a math person so I'm just going to assume your calculations are correct, and if they are then how tall is 64 feet?

[raw crypt]

pin?

OH!!! HI

[ashen shell]

Hey!

(Appreciate the different folks putting the reference posts together!)

[raw crypt]

This helps free up space in my other pin for future stuff 💕💕 thank you!!

[wheat cypress]

Oh mai.... I just read the newest poem and my head hurts but thanks tgc for a Lore crumb for once

[frigid tinsel]

swag, thanks Sagomay

[rocky granite]

Well its cubic feet so idk what a good comparison for volume is lol

[wheat cypress]

Oh nvm lol.... I forgot we were tryna get volume

[wheat cypress]

Your estimate for the Sky kid's height was scary close

[rocky granite]

Bahdhan i just did your math backwards

[uncut pond]

I can't believe we finally got the sixth shattering poem

[ashen shell]

Ah, but as so many famous singers have noted, love hurts 🎵

[frigid tinsel]

I think the con-posting delayed it considerably

[uncut pond]

Good point

[ashen shell]

Yeah, there was a lot of good stuff going on at TGS. Sometimes we swap things around so each can get their fair share of air time

[raw crypt]

YEAH makes sense but its rlly funny conceptually

happy con posting 💕💕

eden calamity
happy con posting!!

[uncut pond]

Alright, the poem is pretty cool, doesn't solve the issue of the "Eden Star" 3D model being so low detail that no one can tell what it's supposed to be or represent (unless someone here already figured it out while I was gone), but it's still pretty cool regardless

[frigid tinsel]

Not swallowed by the con posting, though every time #news or #vault-of-socials lit up I had a heart attack

[south oracle]

I mean, I thought the wait was worth it. Poems are fun because there are so many different interpretations of them

[hushed steeple]

where can i read the poems?

[sharp lichen]

Bare at the precipice: Precipice could be interpreted as peak, so I think this means the area around the diamond and the Eden Mountain was desolate even before the Calamity.

Unseen fractures crumble in the chasm: I’m pretty sure this means the cracks we see in the Eden Diamond.

The stars under fathomless weight: This means “the stars are under great stress and are about to fall” which means that the Eden Diamond has something to do with the stars falling.

Reaching to light and to dark: I think the Eden diamond both attracted light, and darkness to feast on that light (like a buffet)

Carrying memory of all that was held: So it’s confirmed! The Eden diamond stored memories.

In the final moment of shattering: So this is the final time the Eden diamond shattered

[frigid tinsel]

Sagomay just pinned them. See pinned messages

[hushed steeple]

thanks

[sharp lichen]

Good! Now we have to find the volume of an ordinary power diamond. Try the ones around Prairie.

[sharp lichen]

Or, the “carrying memory” line could mean the ancient memories in the Void of Shattering.

Although the Elder infighting theory is interesting, I’m not sure it’s that referenced in the poem

[distant turtle]

My crude brightness job shows that it’s more or less what we would expect the King’s mask to be shaped like.

[sharp lichen]

I have a crazy theory on this season: But I first have to ask: does the Void of Shattering refer to both the red diamond season guide and the place where we get the cosmetics for this season?

[copper saffron]

Perhaps fathomless weight could refer to an emotional/moral burden?

[uncut pond]

Oh yeah I do see it's the shape of the King

But like, that "star" has more to it than just the mask shape and it's everything else about it that doesn't remotely resemble anything

This is actually a gripe I have with plenty - tho not all - of Sky storytelling. In order for symbolism to work the symbols themselves must be clear, you can make the most intricate and carefully crafted symbolism ever but if you take all the pictures and blur them to the point where they become borderline unreadable then it completely destroys the point of symbolism
You're supposed to decipher the hidden meaning using symbols, not decipher the symbols themselves

Sorry I'm not sure if any of this makes sense or if I'm making myself clear here

[sharp lichen]

I have a theory borderlining on crazy: But here goes nothing!

[uncut pond]

I personally believe "the stars" refers to the Elders themselves, since they're the stars that fell

[sharp lichen]

But in the Performance second quest, we see that 'stars' refer to lots of things related to the light

[uncut pond]

True, but the Elders are the ones present in the sixth memory, so I personally assume it's gotta be them most likely

Still wanna hear your theory tho

[distant turtle]

Using out of game knowledge from concept art made us better able to interpret what the game art represents, but you’re right. Players I chat with in the game and people in comments on social media usually have no grasp of the lore even if they’re trying. I didn’t understand a thing until I studied pins from here.

[uncut pond]

Even the concepts don't help much because like ¾ of them aren't even canon anymore, sometimes they even directly contradict the current lore

[surreal delta]

don't mind me, just thinking about something, but given that the shard in eden is raining down shards all the time and appears to be broken itself, could this potentially mean that eventually it could stop?

[sharp lichen]

There's plenty of theories regarding that, but one odd thing is that the Eden Diamond we see in the Ancient Memories seems to be more cracked than the Eden Diamond we see in the present

[distant turtle]

I guess its true volume is much greater than its apparent size viewed from outside.

[surreal delta]

Mhm, I get that but would it not eventually have to stop its rain upon eden and the realms? (however long that may take) makes me wonder what a sky without eden would be like

[keen shore]

Unfortunately, the shards don’t come from the diamond itself. Whenever it explodes it just types /spawn shard into the chat bar and they appear magically /j

[surreal delta]

AH OFC how could i be so blind

[copper saffron]

maybe our futile efforts are working

[sharp lichen]

but the cracks have disappeared, meaning the diamond must've gotten stronger

[wheat cypress]

Shouldn't we look for the diamonds that the abyss mural is referring to since those are the ones you based the equation off of?

[sharp lichen]

I guess so

[copper saffron]

oh no

[wheat cypress]

I'm gonna try and do this myself and see if I come up with a similar number

[uncut pond]

Did the cracks actually tone down over time? I don't think we get close enough to the present diamond to see if it's as shattered (and it looks maybe a bit too bright to see clearly), plus remember how everything in the Ancient Memories is intentionally scaled up for dramatic effect

[rocky granite]

Lol someday ill remember to take a picture of one with a size reference

[rocky granite]

Let me know what you get im kinda curious to see how much it varies since i did just assume the other dimension i was missing matched the side it was kinda paired with

[distant turtle]

My feeling is it’s the same model in Eden (and the little void of shattering entity) but A it vibrates really fast and B our angle is off to see the cracks. Those glitch screenshots in #eden-spoilers when the camera goes up make it show more cracks.

[uncut pond]

Yeah exactly, maybe it's just a matter of perspective

[sharp lichen]

The Void of Shattering theory

This whole thing rests on the premise that the King fell into the Eden diamond. I can see it quite clear in the sixth memory: the star king symbol seemingly descending into it.

I believe that the Eden diamond didn't have any real personality or sentience beforehand, it was just a tool. But when the King fell into it, it fused into something weird: the Shattering Guide.

The Shattering Guide is the personified form of the Eden Diamond (it has little relation to the King). The evidence here is that they both have a similar shape: a cracked diamond with another tiny diamond in the middle.

The Dark Home where we buy this season's cosmetics, and I think it's inside the Void of Shattering. After all, the void effect is similar to the time we got swallowed by the leviathan. In general, I think if we're in an overwhelming force of darkness, we go to the void area.

As for the ancient memories themselves, I believe we're collecting them for the Void of Shattering, just like the spirit memories. My evidence for this is that the memories all seem to be in different parts of Eden, so it could be memories that it wants. They're also scattered all around the Sky world, meaning that the Shattering Guide is unable to get the memories themselves.

[rocky granite]

Now im wondering if its a consistent scale through each memory and im kinda glad i can't access them all atm because i don't have time for that right not lol

[distant turtle]

Nice Abyss tie in. I forgot about that moment!

[sharp lichen]

yes i have somehow given a personality to the shattering guide

[real mortar]

as we all should, shattering guide deserves a personality

[sharp lichen]

I like the idea of a forgotten soul who just wants to learn more about the world.

[frigid tinsel]

blorbo the Void of Shattering

[sharp lichen]

Also, here's an interesting connection:

Le Petit Prince: "I love listening to the stars. It's like five hundred million bells." (abridged)

Starlight Desert: https://youtu.be/-Xz0Yn8O74M. You can distinctly hear bells.

[copper saffron]

arent these all skykids lmao

[uncut pond]

Hey there hello I just made a small series of images showing my take on the chronological order of events in my take of the Sky timeline

||I'm sorry I gave up halfway through||

[past canyon]

So... Is this resh?

[frigid tinsel]

Maybe

[raw crypt]

HELP THIS CAUGHT ME SO OFF GAURF APSUSNDNDMNF

[wheat cypress]

So I tried doing the same calculation with skids and then again starting in feet, but either your calculation is off by a decimal or mine is... but it's the same digits. I'm gonna ask my genius math dad to proofread it for me tomorrow to see if he can spot the issue but he's super busy so it'll be a few days before I post my work

Unless @sharp lichen maybe you could proofread it for me?

I have to go to bed tho so bai bai ... ping me so I'll see ur responses in the morning

[round parrot]

OMG THE POEM IS HEREEE

• honk * I MISSED THE * honking * DISCUSSION BECAUSE OF MY EXAMM

[potent sedge]

so where my previous theory that this is the second time the diamond's exploded actually was correct [errrr, i assume so at least, don't quote me on that]

i had a theory/au where basically the season of shattering is the diamond exploding a second or third time, the first time causing eden's destruction and the corruption of the crabs and other animals because of the seeds, and this is the second time

the elders tried to stop the explosion but were destroyed physically and now that's all left is their memories, but i still have an AU where the memories of ancient darkness/ancient light we see in shattering are literally the shattered remains of memories from the first explosion.

[round parrot]

I like the "idea" that this happened a second time, the first time was said to be devastating, right now it is tame (shard eruptions landing on 1 spot per day) because it had used most of it's energy during the first time

[potent sedge]

yeah i think so as well

[copper saffron]

if anything, it's showing us that us skykids efforts are somewhat working. we're getting closer to freeing eden. but it has to get worse first

[potent sedge]

i'm still wondering.... what are we freeing eden of? the diamond? are we finally going to shatter the diamond? or are we gonna destroy the darkness?

methinks in season of aurora, we get to see what happened to the spirits pre-destruction-of-eden era. or heck, maybe we do shatter the diamond or at least do some considerable damage to it.

[copper saffron]

i headcanon that the king is trapped inside the diamond. when we die, we enter a memory and see his past self, the shiny boi, before ascending to orbit. we have to free him if we are to cleanse eden and and free it from the darkness.
some concept arts depicted a king boss fight, and i like to believe that's what would happen. the prince is trapped inside, and we have to destroy the corrupted king's body to free the prince
or something idk my au is ridiculous

[potent sedge]

as someone who also made that theory a while back, i would LOVE to see it.

i made a fan boss fight [i can ping you to it if you want lol] where the King is defeated by us burning the darkness away from him and the megabird showing him the light

[round parrot]

You mean the one we hug before orbit? If so then why would the prince merge with us?

[copper saffron]

it's a memory, or an echo of the prince, a communion with his past light. it's our link to megabird and allows us to ascend

[copper saffron]

yeah, can u ping it? id love to read/see

[round parrot]

Do we let go of the prince before we get reborn?

[copper saffron]

idk i feel like, we sorta absorb his imprint, after which we are out of the memory and can instead ascend. idk i didnt think too hard about it

[potent sedge]

my theory of the kid we absorb [or whatever the heck we do] in wherever it's called before orbit, i've always thought of it as like the light in our bodies, like the dark one is our physical body but the light one is representing the candle we hold/the light

[copper saffron]

that is literally my theory about skykid composition
light is the soul and life force, darkness is the physical form.

without the light, the darkness consumes them and they turn into statues. when full of light, like in orbit, they glow and become invulnerable

[quick burrow]

Wait so they're saying the img thatgamecompany send in #news are the elders??

[potent sedge]

i still don't know what it's called before orbit, for all sakes and purposes i'll just call it the void for now lol

[potent sedge]

oh yeah it's confirmed actually, you can see in the memory that the elders are being blown away by the crystal

[quick burrow]

I possibly thought it was just random spirits but no it's the elders whose trying to destroy the shard, bruhhhh

[copper saffron]

there's also this enlightened state in concept art which i think is pretty cool
i do something in it with my fic lmao

[potent sedge]

yeah i think it's really cool

[ebon wind]

Perhaps that was supposed to be used in the last flight

[copper saffron]

possibly

[ebon wind]

The pity room?

[copper saffron]

the void
a state between light and darkness, where they exist in balance.

[ebon wind]

Really? I’m not sure, everything there is shady

[potent sedge]

one of my AUs/theories about the king is that the prince is the king, but just younger when he first arrived to the kingdom of sky, or when he first descended from the kingdom on high [or whatever the shattered kingdom in orbit is called]. i was thinking the prince is the first skykid, and was killed prematurely by the golden wasteland elder [in i think one of the prophecy murals, it shows what looks like the golden wasteland elder stabbing/killing who we assume to be the prince]. In his rage in undeath, the king caused the destruction of eden by using the crystal as a phylactery.

[ebon wind]

Are you sure it was used as a phylactery? That doesn’t seem right to me

[potent sedge]

oh nono it's just a theory/au thingie i have qwq

[ebon wind]

But a phylactery is like a box thing

[copper saffron]

that's a pretty common theory that the prince in the king lol. a corrupted skykid
also funny thing in my crossover, but Void is actually a Light element, it's associated with gravity/antimatter energy and the emptiness that lies behind reality. It's the most Dark aligned of the Light elements, if that makes sense.

[potent sedge]

yeah i see that

[potent sedge]

phylactery can be anything as long as it contains the soul of the lich as far as i know lol qwq but again it's just an AU i have qwq

[ebon wind]

Oh no a phylactery as in the light thing?

A phylactery is a Jewish box worn in prayer so I got confused so I looked it up and found the light version

[potent sedge]

in a storyboard i'm gonna do, when he's cornered, the king is gonna try to escape to the shattered kingdom by flying upwards [since he is a grown up skykid] but he'll be attacked by the skykids/winged lights

[ebon wind]

I’m not Jewish so I don’t know the meanings behind the practice but yeah

[potent sedge]

oh i was thinking of the other meaning of phylactery, like from dnd

[ebon wind]

Yeah I looked into it a bit more and saw that so I understand now lol

[copper saffron]

his cape turns out to be a pair of massive wings

[potent sedge]

exactly what i was thinking/drawing lol, but in my version the wings look more like angel wings so he's more like....... fallen angel/one winged angel type of thing lol

[ebon wind]

Can sky kids grow up? Or are they like kokiri from loZOoT?

[potent sedge]

sephiroth type of stuff lol

[copper saffron]

oh that's not me, that's how it is in Destiny. the reason the crossover works so well is because so many things line up and are similar. it's the purple energy Skye was holding in the art i sent.

[potent sedge]

dunno, we assume so but idk, might make a theory on that lol....

[ebon wind]

And our little chest light is the skykids equivilant to a fairy(but not as annoying as Navi)

[copper saffron]

there's a king aligned with the Darkness who has massive wings and the ability to corrupt others in Destiny too. these games have too much in common as long as you can look past the differences in gameplay and style.

[round parrot]

Some believe they can, but the rebirth acts stop the aging process

[ebon wind]

Oooo thats a good way to think about it

[copper saffron]

are they actually immortal, or do they just not seem to age because they die all the time and every rebirth resets it?
a question that is also applicable to destiny i swear it's driving me insane

[ebon wind]

Also being new to the lore train, are there anything/theories that are just considered correct at this point? Like a theories that everyone just agrees with?

[ebon wind]

The destiny and sky thing is just haunting you at this point

[copper saffron]

IT REALLY IS I SWEAR THEY'RE THE SAME GAME

[ebon wind]

Sky=destiny without weapons
Or destiny with more arson

I don’t play destiny but I think I get it’s vibe

[copper saffron]

destiny has the literal power of the sun as an element so yeah i think first is more applicable

[ebon wind]

Sky kids l’iter can only commit arson like that’s their only defence

Their whole purpose is to go around burning stuff lmao

Sky: children of the light
The game where magical light children fly around setting fire to things

[quick burrow]

Krill's Memory: "Ascending towards darkness A distorted reflection The hunter relentless to sate Insatiable hunger"

The Krills have ascended from the dark and they've been desired to eat the light? Maybe that's why they've been living in the Golden Wasteland but the real question is how did they get to the Golden Wasteland?

Whale/Fishes' Memory: "The distant call beyond reach Echoes swallowed in a scouring silence Empty light scattering the fragments Of a spirit sundered in the break"

I don't know about this memory but it could be the marine life. 'Empty light scattering the fragments of a spirit sundered in the break" possibly relates to the spirits(or not) that they've been split apart or if it's just the fishes and whales have been split apart? I'm kinda dumb to theorized

Elders Memory: "Bare at the precipice Unseen fractures crumble in the chasm The stars under fathomless weight Reaching to light and to dark Carrying memory of all that was held In the final moment of shattering"

So the elders came the shard on purpose so they would likely to stop it? the stars were falling from reaching the light to the dark? what does it really mean by 'Carrying memory of all that was held In the final moment of shattering?"

[copper saffron]

now give them a giant flaming hammer and see what they do

[ebon wind]

Heheheh I’d like to see that
A moth rampaging with a giant flaming hammer would be a glorious sight

[copper saffron]

#sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat message

[ebon wind]

Hahaha

[round parrot]

For the krill part: (following the "Elders are their realms theory/headcanon") I think it is because Dusk is corrupted themselves, thus influencing their realm

Elders memory: There is a possibility that the elders would have gotten memory loss lost something that means to them alot (maybe their realms' ancestor population?) and the phrase "Carrying memory of all that was held in the final moment of Shattering" tells me that they "held" their memories before the "shattering" of the red diamond

Not sure about the rest

[ebon wind]

Forgot you were an artiste

[copper saffron]

lmao all g
i try

[quick burrow]

huh... I see though it would be a theory but that's a good theory perhaps I should research

[round parrot]

Good luck finding the start of that theory pal! There are lots of theories and headcanons regarding it

[copper saffron]

yeah lorechat is quite the iceberg

[tepid veldt]

myst i love your pfp but why is the knight crying

[still portal]

Someone got into this temple in the green forest's caves?
I'm trying

[copper saffron]

i dont think u can

[still portal]

The activation button under the rocks seems working
I want to put there some light source
And try to get there with oob

Highest point of the last memory with elders
Is that a king? /rt

[shrewd mango]

Do you think that we could atleast get crumbs of the main lore on season of aurora or nah?

[tepid veldt]

from where?

[shrewd mango]

Wait actually- oh wait beta stuff wasn't allowed here-

[still portal]

Got here
There long corridor
I think it can be used for the next season

[eternal totem]

There's nothing behind that temple, the rocks had to be added at one point during Belonging to avoid confusion as it was never intended for something. You could glitch to use it as a practice room though

[shrewd mango]

Imagine they add something there in the future

[eternal totem]

Maybe, but I doubt it would be related for next season, it's been that way since 2019

[shrewd mango]

Probably

[round parrot]

Idk
My current state of mood for the past 2 weeks I think
Trying so hard to survive highschool

[unique halo]

for the manta memory i feel like they went to eden because they thought the diamond was pretty and got crushed

[keen copper]

Howdy lore chat

[potent sedge]

yo

so i remember seeing some concept art [can't find it now for some reason] of the progression of a manta turning into a krill, and i thought it was pretty interesting

[sharp lichen]

Where did you get the Diamond height in feet?

I got 64.454784 cubic feet by the way. I’m wondering if we should just round to the nearest whole number.

[copper saffron]

i think it was a whale? or something?

[eternal totem]

These? I don't think the creature was ever specified (yes, a manta is next to it in comparison)

[potent sedge]

nono it was somethin else

[spring python]

It’s so pretty

[keen copper]

I think it's neat

[round parrot]

Yhellow

[potent sedge]

So here's the full timeline i think

King is the first Skid to descend
He becomes king and something happens to where GW elder kills him or incapacitates him
I think that the king caused Eden's destruction
Shard's first explosion destroys Eden and causes the corruption of the animals by the seeds of darkness
Abyss civilisation tries to extract the light from the animals in order to purge the corruption
Destruction of Eden slowly kills all life in GW
Stars descend from the kingdom in order to try to fix Eden, many fail

[keen copper]

Could I tell you about my hc about sky and journey?

[compact shale]

Why not?

let's hear it!

[potent sedge]

Yaya

[keen copper]

In my hc journey takes place long after sky, so long that even all the light plants have died, and the wanderers you control are a new form of skid/ancestor/thing

[sharp lichen]

That’s new, I’ve usually heard Journey taking place after Sky. How would Skykid civilization disappear entirely?

[keen copper]

Probably just natural decay, no civilization lasts forever. Maybe the skids just up and leave, who can say

[distant turtle]

Very cool. Journey could feasibly be an alternate timeline of Sky where the Prince never arrived and the civilization went on the same trajectory but in like 10 times the number of years. In Sky they invent dark diamond tech with Prince’s elemental abilities gained from the trials. This allowed them to leap frog technological advancement from Prairie manual labor times to Valley floating districts and then Vault memory archives and space time warping.

[rocky granite]

Its probably just due to rounding because i used a measurement of a measurement any error in that first measurement will be on every single one of my measurements i thought about redoing it because there were a lot of little things that could have gone wrong whether it was my measurement of the sky kid or if hadn't been exactly a third of a sky kid or something its one of those things where if i had to write a lab report thats what id put down for percent error

[rocky granite]

I mean the percent yeild between your calculations and mine is 99.75% so i dont think its going to make that big of a difference considering one of the side measurements is just an estimate

[distant turtle]

Probably something else but I remember the tamed krill fan art inspired by the creature in the Switch trailer.

[gleaming fog]

I’d love to be able to ride a krill, maybe like riding worms in dune

[copper saffron]

i doodled a skykid trying to wrangle a krill lmao

same tho

[gleaming fog]

That sounds cool, is it in the fan art chat?

[copper saffron]

#sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat message

[gleaming fog]

Now I want a cowboy hat for my sky kid

[copper saffron]

yee haw

[wheat cypress]

The diamond is about 5 and a third sky kids tall, and my sky kid is 38 inches tall, so I multiplied 38 by 5.3 and then turned the result into feet

I'm just so frustrated cuz I'm getting a different number everytime.... I'll have to redo the calculations today

[keen copper]

I'm surprised this didn't happen during the 3 days of math

[slate saffron]

Remember that time Nasa crashed the Mars Climate Orbiter after a small mistake when converting imperial measurements to metric measurements? 👁️ 👄 👁️

[wheat cypress]

Thank goodness this is just an estimate and not anything for real world application or we'd all be krilled because my math is terrible

[keen copper]

I prefer just theorizing about story and not figuring out the height of everything in sky

[wheat cypress]

The reason we're tryna find the volume of the inner diamond is so we can find out how much light was used to power it

[copper saffron]

that's lorechat for ya

[keen copper]

Ahhh

[wheat cypress]

Hopefully an estimate of how much power the diamond requires can be another piece to the puzzle of how it was created

It's a little drastic but to be fair I enjoy overcomplicating things

[keen copper]

Just looked it up, I give you how to find the area of a diamond

Multiply the altitude of the diamond times the length of one of its sides. The altitude is the distance between any two opposite sides of the diamond. So if the diamond has an altitude of 8 inches and its sides are each 10 inches long, its area is 8 * 10 = 80 inches squared.

[wheat cypress]

The thing is that it's two pyramids on top of each other so it's not a 2 dimensional diamond .... wish it was that easy 🥲

[slate saffron]

We're all gonna get krilled anyways, it's just a matter of when

[wheat cypress]

You are wise Strega, very wise words

[copper saffron]

yeah we can calculate two pyramids

[wheat cypress]

Of course it's possible I'm not saying that it isnt... what we've been discussing the last 24 hours is whether our calculations are correct or not because we're all getting different numbers

[slate saffron]

I am very wise. The wisest ever even

[copper saffron]

the fact of the matter is that it'd be almost impossible to get exact measurements in game. you'd have to get the model itself

[slate saffron]

We should probably just have everyone show their work and compare, that way we can better gather why all the answers are different

[wheat cypress]

Yeah... that's why it's an extreme estimate. Especially since the base (middle) of both pyramids in the diamond are askew, and thus its not actually symmetrical

[potent sedge]

Are we talking about math
WitHOUT WES

[wheat cypress]

If Wes can help us please bring Wes

[sharp lichen]

Now we should find the volume of a regular, Abyss power diamond. There is plenty of them

[wheat cypress]

Now that you're here this is the math I was hoping you could look at

[copper saffron]

im more curious about how you'll figure this out

[wheat cypress]

I'm concerned cuz it's such a different number....

[wheat cypress]

Eventually 🥲 This volume calculation is a step closer to that

[sharp lichen]

I think a problem is that they did not convert skykid to feet until the very end.

[wheat cypress]

Yeah but also the total height of the diamond was used instead of a single measurement of the pyramid.... I fixed this in another calc but got a similar number one decimal off of this final number

[sharp lichen]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit

[wheat cypress]

I tried to do it the way @rocky granite did it but with the fixed height measurement

[sharp lichen]

I might’ve made some mistakes on the first part. Now, the answer I got is 325.16. I believe it’s just rounding semantics at this point.

[wheat cypress]

I see.... I'll try to do both calculations again with no rounding then

[sharp lichen]

The answer to this dilemma seems simple: Cubic feet is different then regular feet. 1 regular foot is 12 inches, while 1 cubic foot is 1728 cubic inches. I don’t think the “sk” unit of measurement is that useful.

[wheat cypress]

Without any rounding I got 32.4266666676 with the sky kid method

[sharp lichen]

Did you forget to apply the other half by multiplying it in two? If so, then you get 32*2, or 64, which is my and Kat’s exact answer.

[keen shore]

LEO I AM SPBBING BASED OFF THE FIRST TWO IMAGES I WAS EXPECTING A PRETTY POEM AND THEN LOST IT

[wheat cypress]

Kat's answer wasn't correct because Kat used the 5.3 total height of the diamond instead of the height of only one pyramid, that's why your answers are twice as large as mine... I think

[sharp lichen]

I did a final calculation, and got 323.46

Let’s average it all out to 324, how about that?

[wheat cypress]

Ohhh that's the number I got in my first calc.... that might be it! I'm still really confused as to why we get one decimal off when using the sky kid method tho...

[keen copper]

Sus

[austere bridge]

oh no
the math returns

[wheat cypress]

Sorry we're almost done here

[wheat cypress]

I did the calc again from the first whiteboard and I got 325.1674074134..... I'm so confused

[uncut pond]

I'M SORRY I SWEAR I HAD ALL THE INTENTION TO MAKE SOMETHING SERIOUS BUT 😭😭 I RAN OUT OF MOTIVATION AND GAVE UP

[wheat cypress]

It was hilarious I appreciated it

[sharp lichen]

I think it’s just different methods of rounding. Let’s come to a consensus and round to 324.

[wheat cypress]

Why do you think the sky kid method gives a diff number? It makes me wonder if anything we're doing is correct

[rustic glen]

don't know if anyone said this here before but

[keen shore]

Yeahhhhh! I also realized that and am incredibly excited :} you could make an argument that’s not stargazer but voyager is pretty easy to recognize !

[sharp lichen]

Is it Alef???

[rustic glen]

Yes! I'm so excited too, everything is heading me to think that the animation project is gonna be about Alef's first days in the kingdom

[soft timber]

slips into the window I heard lore and flew in

[wheat cypress]

AAA OMW THIS IS AMAZINGGG

[rustic glen]

Some people think it's them, there's also the fact that the kid in the switch trailer has a light on their chest, whereas the other spirits don't. Let me find the post where I saw that

[wheat cypress]

Oh my gosh you guys this is revolutionary 👀👀👀

[keen shore]

I actually predicted this ages ago with the switch trailer I need to find my message again YEHA the kid has a chest light like ours!

[soft timber]

local desert merchants found random child after falling from sky, more at 9

[keen shore]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message found it, I love accidentally prophesizing things

[wheat cypress]

If the kid is covering up where the chest light would be.... and the other kids dont have it.... it sounds like the kid sees that they're the only one who doesn't have it, and is embarrassed ? Could this kid be the first sky kid because of this?

[keen shore]

I remember thinking like “oh so this might be abt the king, cool! i was hoping for more personaloty details on them eventually!” and then realized “THAT MEANS THERE MIGHT BE PROPHECY SPIRITS IN THERE” [and then started foaming at the mouth]

[keen shore]

omg krii post…

[rustic glen]

omg that would be so cute, I know already that I'm gonna love Alef when the project comes out

[keen shore]

yeah that’s the consensus we’re looking at!!

[wheat cypress]

What confuses me tho is that in the spirit memory in-game, the spirits find Alef by the big stone stairs that lead up to the temple. In the animation trailer, that seems to be where they're taking Alef? Doesn't make much sense if that's not where they found the kid

[keen shore]

Yeah that’s the only problem but it could be happening after!

[rustic glen]

Maybe they are taking some liberties in the animation project and they changed the location of Alef's landing place, it would make more sense because it seems like Isle wasn't an isle at that time and there was land where now there's a sea

Maybe they found them at the spot where Home would be at the time? 0_0 that would be great and also more accurate lore-wise

[wheat cypress]

Ohhh yeah..... but then which side would be considered canon?

Cuz if Alef had fallen where the stargazer found them.... they would have fallen in the middle of that village or merchant stop or whatever it was

[copper saffron]

LORECHAT MATHS EPISODE 4 OR SOMETHING IDK

[sharp lichen]

MUAHAHA

[rustic glen]

hmm I would say the animation project version. If it really is about Alef, and the skykid in the voyager's memory is also him, I'm eager to think that tgc has decided to change some aspects of his origins and make them more interesting for an animation short. The "two merchants find a kid in a remote land and decide to take them to a small village with an elder than may have some answers" storyline sounds better cinematographically than a "two random people find a kid on the floor conveniently close to a wise elder that may help them" plot

[sharp lichen]

Imagine if they’re not the King

A side note: Before the sixth memory, I didn’t like the King, but now I think they had a major influence in the Sky world

[rustic glen]

That too, I don't think that Alef landing in the middle of the village would be that appealing to the story

[copper saffron]

I dont think ive been so hyped about something in ages, cant wait to watch you guys tear it apart frame by frame

[wheat cypress]

I've always sort of thought of it as Alef being a sweet innocent kid before they were crowned king, and the king only caused whatever atrocities happened after they were infected by the darkness

[rustic glen]

You bet I will, I'm gonna be rewatching it every single hour when it comes out

[wheat cypress]

For all we know this could be our biggest Lore jump in ages... our best documentation. There's not much you can hide in an animation, a lot of info is sure to be unearthed

[copper saffron]

Maybe in the switch trailer, the kid is reaching to the sky becausr thats where they came from, they dont know it but they can sense it.

[rustic glen]

I just love that, an agender kid that fell from the sky and was fathered by everyone in the kingdom because they had this huge power and the ability to liberate all of them, but ended up being selfish and vengeful and became to be their downfall, making the kingdom wait for another kid of the same kind to actually save them for real this time

.....wait they are the same

[gentle maple]

My gosh

[rustic glen]

Also if we get to see Alef with their iconic crown in the animation project I'm gonna flip. I have so many high hopes for this, the hype is reaaal

[keen copper]

Oh no

[copper saffron]

One day, there will be a special child who will save the kingdom. It took one to bring them to prosperity, who also lead it to its downfall. So there will be one yet who will save them again.
There are lots of skykids out there, but one will be destined to reach the end of eden.
(Yeah, au fanfic go brrrrr, its rotting my brain)

A child who is brave, compassionate, and humble. They may have powers that surpass all, but only in dire times will they use them. Because it would only separate them from their friends.

[keen copper]

I wonder what's going to happen

[copper saffron]

Wafo it is

[keen copper]

Cause it's a bit of a stretch to go from a kid that fell from the sky, to being a literal prince

[wheat cypress]

Maybe the sky society already had a messiah prophecy... and when this kid fell from the sky they were like "yep crown them king"

[keen shore]

counterpoint, I believe they Did Not Cause the Atrocities and everyone assumes they did for some reason, I think they just failed stopping them

[potent sedge]

Honk
I think that the king was the prince from the kingdom above sky
And he fell as a skykid

[wheat cypress]

Maybe... the common theory here is that the King got greedy for darkstones power and somehow ruined the kingdom with this massive diamond because of that .... I'm open to seeing If that's not the case

[snow cosmos]

possibly a hot take but maybe everything went pear-shaped because important decisions were left up to a child who fell from the sky with no leadership experience

like i'm being humorous about it but imagine if you woke up with no idea who or where you were and were told by a bunch of strangers that you're the chosen one and all that... that's a lot of pressure to put on a kid, and even if they're doing their best that's... yikes

[wheat cypress]

Pre-first fall is quite the mystery... probably the period of sky history we know the least about... good theory tho

[potent sedge]

One of my theories is that the prince is the prince of the kingdom above sky, and that the reason they chose him to become king is because he had to complete all the trials and stuff

And maybe the first destruction of Eden was so powerful that not only did it destroy Eden and corrupt all the animals and stuff, but it also literally shattered the kingdom above sky

[keen shore]

Everyone says it is because of concept art that might no longer be canon but I can’t think of any evidence for it in game? Idk I’m a big fan of like, challenging my perspectives on things and not letting myself just assume, so that’s why

[copper saffron]

Reminds me of
"I am not the messiah."
"HE IS THE MESSIAH"

[wheat cypress]

I always thought that the pre-sky kingdom was in orbit somewhere out there in space or smthn... if it was elsewhere then that would explain why we don't have access to it anymore

[potent sedge]

I wanna do a joke theory
It's all about Pompeii
We all live in post explosion Pompeii now

[rustic glen]

Considering the amount of judaism influence that the game has it's wouldn't a far stretch that that happened. I also love the implications of giving a newborn such a big responsability. Or even how the elders were making all the decisions for the prince, it just makes you think about how much Alef's behaviour and future was influenced by the preassure and ideas they gave them

[wheat cypress]

Agreed. As scientists to some degree it's important that we pursue truth, not confirmation bias.... in the case of this game (less rigidly) that would mean considering all perspectives and challenging our own ideas... very much agreed

[copper saffron]

In concept arts the souls in the sky kingdom were actually from the real world, on our way to the light

[rustic glen]

I actually have a sky lore playlist and the song Pompeii is in there because it reminds me so much about Sky, I tried to share it here but it seems that I can't share spotify links

[potent sedge]

I have a religious theory about sky buuuut i won't talk about that one qwq
I still very much enjoy the circle of angels reference in orbit tho
My fave art piece

[wheat cypress]

The theory of the prince being the ruler of the first kingdom that fell from the sky and then crowned king actually makes a lot of sense because they are all depicted the same way in the murals. That would explain the consistent golden sky kid motif.

[wheat cypress]

Imma go listen lol

[keen shore]

this reminds me of the idea I had where prophecy guide was adopted by the others as a kid and raised to be their leader (hence that one promo piece where they’re shorter) and it’s supposed to be a parellel for the king, I love parallels

[potent sedge]

Another honkin theory i can come up with is that the prince and the king aren't the same person, but rather father and son

The king was the ruler of the kingdom above sky, and he sent his son down to rule sky
Then his son, the prince, grew up to become the ruler of eden

Trust me I got theories for DAYS

[rocky granite]

Yea but we arent going anywhere with the numbers at this point as far as i can tell besides i wouldnt want to use this estimate as anything besides an estimate since i had to assume the length of one of the side because i just dont have a screenshot that would tell me the length of that missing side
The accuracy of the estimates measurements is less of a problem than the assumptions i had to make to get it

[rocky granite]

Yea i think this all looks good but we have two pyramids so you have to double it

[keen shore]

A quick word of advice, since I can’t really think of any evidence for this, it’s probably best to call it a headcanon, so you don’t confuse people by accident

[wheat cypress]

I did double it... on the third line (5.088 x 2 = 10.176 sk^3)

[rocky granite]

Ah actually i think i did it wrong haha i think i used the full height if the shard instead of half like i should have

Originally i wanted to split it vertically instead of horizontally because i thought it would end up with nicer numbers maybe but i got fed up with having to assume that third length and just did it the normal looking way so good job lol

[keen shore]

best of luck finding the Eden diamond’s volume btw! will not participate since I don’t think it’d help much, but would love to be proven wrong!

[wheat cypress]

Im excited too hehe.... I think we've agreed on 324 ft^3 but I want to have my father proofread my math to see if we missed anything.... will get back to you 👍 👍

[soft timber]

Love the way we agreed on 2 different theories and one of them is literally "they made a kid that fell from the sky a king despite no leadership skills present"

[spice musk]

hi lore chat! i saw this art on twitter, idk if it's gonna let me send the link, so if it doesn't, i'll just share the pic!

Im sharing it here cause it might help us all with the shard memories lore ngl, it's really good

https://twitter.com/vela_pulsars/status/1570749390666735617?s=20&t=jxzkWwuAzUMKMPHsQKw8BA

[keen shore]

@rigid mural HEY MY FRIEND DREW THAT

[raw crypt]

VELA SWEEP

[keen shore]

VELA SWEEP

[eternal totem]

Bi flag

[spice musk]

it's like, all the shard memories into one picture, it's very well drawn and i feel it should be shared to lore chat cause we love sky lore XD

[raw crypt]

diversity win the eden diamond that blew the elders up is bisexual happy bi week

[snow cosmos]

i'm late but Vela sweep!

[spice musk]

also i hope it's okay with Vela for me sharing their art here ^^' if they'd like me to remove message, i will do so.

[keen shore]

YEHAAAA I ADORE THIS PIECE THE COLORS ARE SO GOOD, watched it develop and aughhhh it’s so 💔the composition, the feeling, the poses etc

fun fact! the light creatures go clockwise while the dark creatures go counterclockwise, this is a neat detail that they pointed out to me, although it does have the unfortunate side effect of making the whale and the krill look like they’re a bout to kiss

[snow cosmos]

unfortunate
you spelled hilarious wrong

[keen shore]

love wins 💛

[keen shore]

honestly they’ll probably be super happy about it!! :] I am very proud of them seeing it

[spice musk]

also i showed this to my friend who also loves sky lore, and told them, it's like the shard memories were originally all in one picture, but we just saw it in "shards" ha get it? cause...shard...memories? season of shattering? xD

[spice musk]

yee! i just wanna be sure! It's their art and i know some people would prefer to not have someone else sharing their art? idk if that makes any sense. But, if i ever share art that's not mine, i want to properly credit them!

[frigid tinsel]

Vela sweep

[slate saffron]

Vela sweep

[uncut pond]

It's honestly kinda funny how Vela is the one who makes all those funny MS Paint memes yet also has the artistic skill to make like The Mona Lisa 2 or something if they wanted

[wheat cypress]

Ikr lol also two people with pfps drawn by them so far... haha imagine if everyone in lorechat had a pfp drawn by vela 🤣.... I honestly wouldn't mind 🤣

[torn eagle]

ure giving me ideas ||/j||

[frigid tinsel]

Reminder not to wink wink nudge nudge someone into making art for you

[torn eagle]

ik ik thats why the /j spoilered there

[keen shore]

okay let me try to count
me, alasdair, ash, I feel like I’m forgetting someone but can’t remember

I have like a backup of 4 vela pfps to use from when they’ve drawn my characters

[frigid tinsel]

I’m serious — what Vela has drawn is under their own terms. They didn’t draw me a pfp cos I asked them to, they just made a doodle and I liked it enough to make it my pfp. Anything they’ve made for me and our friends have been a surprise. It feels wrong and takes the passion out of it to be forced, coerced, or guilted into making art rather than deciding to do so yourself. It’s why I had a period where I stopped writing for two years.

[keen shore]

You’re completely correct. As an artist as well (visual art), it can be annoying when people try to cheapen the value of my hard work and effort. I know you meant it as a joke, but it can still hit a nerve, especially when so many jokes similar to it that we’ve experienced are like… “I want this but I’m saying it’s a joke so you don’t get mad at me for it.” Just letting you know

[wheat cypress]

Agreed. I'm also an artist... I get that happy spark when I draw something for others but only when it's a surprise honestly. Having something drawn as a surprise for you is truly a special experience that cannot be replaced with a requested drawing... if I unearthed any negative feelings regarding this I apologize... although it is funny to think about how weird it would be if we all had a pfp in the same style

[slim plume]

Would honestly be amazing tbh, but I know that there's a lot of people in this chat and as a procrastinating artist myself, that's a huge request so perhaps not

[pastel brook]

Hey @slim plume, did you get enough sneep snorp today?

[wheat cypress]

Yeah... it's more of a funny hypothetical thought than anything else 🙃

[rigid mural]

You're nice to me and this is hilarious, so I will allow it.

[raw crypt]

HI

[rigid mural]

Hii I'm currently away from home and really busy, but I saw the last shattering poem and am trying to solve it like a rubix cube, it's hard for me to understand tbh. I'm gonna have to ruminate on it for a while but I really like the implication that the elders can contain memories that aren't theirs in great quantities

I had this idea light and memories are similar if not the same, it would make sense for the elders to be able to tap into the flow of light to Eden to learn what's going on in the kingdom...

[rigid mural]

They're gay kissing now, hope this helps.

Also it makes me really emotional to see my art is so loved here, you guys have no idea how far the compliments go even if we never interacted before

[hushed steeple]

Hey Lorechat, I’ve been busy these last few days, and I wanted to show you my Krill Reconstruction bf I forgot, it also has some oc lore, so here it is! *I’ll explain my thinking when I have the time

[burnt cargo]

Does anyone have ideas as to why the starlight desert spirits have chains it intrigues me and their also all alone, theres no other spirit in their memories

[sharp lichen]

I think it symbolizes how restrained they are, or it could be more literal

[lusty merlin]

Oh god think somone else here had a whole theory starlight desert was a experiment or somthing but I can’t remember who thought of it, was definitely intersting from the few things I remember of it other than that I got no clue, maybe a weird prision

Also I just have a morbid thought that came up when I was writing. But since we know a battle happened on the battlefield in GW, and there’s like a ton of weapons and sand that’s much to high for the land, do you like think the ones that perished in the fight got buried in the sand as it built up over the years? or maybe all of them died in the eden explosion since their pretty close who knows

[sharp lichen]

TLP lore is a trap you can never escape from

[raw crypt]

It’s been confirmed it’s a metaphorical trapped in their vices thing by the devs!

[mossy bay]

Reading the book will give you more insight. In the books each “spirit” lives on their own little tiny planet bound to their way of life and rigid ways of thinking. When the little prince questions them on each of their practices they either scoff at him, brush him off or try to coerce him into following their way without contemplating a different perspective. The chains are symbolic of them being shackled to their own mindsets, being unable to see things from an alternate perspective to flow with life instead of trying to structure it. The little prince pity’s all of them as he see’s that they are all stuck in their own little echo chamber’s unable to see anything other than the importance of their own selves, which is a very adult thing to do i guess

[shrewd mango]

"Bare at the precipice"

Depicting how they didn't even have their weapon?

"Unseen fractures crumble in the chasm"

Ngl idk why but my first thought was about their vulnerability of not having anything to try and stop the diamond

"The stars under fathomless weight"

Maybe about the skykids or just everyone below that was hoping for the elder's success?

"Reaching to light and to dark"

Again, about the everyone hoping, maybe even some dark creatures? Like crabs? (Probably not-) or maybe the explosion reaching the abyss area and the krill king?

Carrying memory of all that was held
In the final moment of shattering

Ngl I have no thoughts on this, although I agree on someone saying that maybe the elders held onto their memories but had an amnesia? Well probably not the amnesia part though-

[shrewd mango]

Wait so does that mean they don't even know each other? (The spirits) because even when I completed the quest I also didn't see them ascend together like how most of the seasonal spirits are? or did they when the season of tlp was happening?

[mossy bay]

Yes you are correct, they do not know of each other.

Am i the only one who isn’t really feeling these poems?

For me they are extremely vague and fail to allude to anything significant or substantial. If anything it feels like they are causing even more confusion.
We’re left grasping in a vacuum full of nothingness… I’m not impressed at all

[slim plume]

I'm poetry's first and foremost lover, but I do have to agree with you somewhat. Poetry for me focuses on painting a clear picture with flowery words and vague metaphors, and even though we literally have a picture to go with these words, I feel like they don't leave enough for us to really... paint that picture. Like they gave us the paintbrushes, canvas, oil paints, and reference, but didn't tell us what to really create

Shameless plug on an original poem that has nothing to do with sky but may help explain my opinion on poetry:

[hushed steeple]

Hey Lorechat! I got free sooner than expected! Here I have (linked) my reconstruction of the Krill. The Shovel Tail Krill

It's head is similar to a flashlight, it's horns portude out of the skull to make light 'cartillage' used to amplify the Sky Dragon light they used to find food and intimidate predators as well to navigate the dark seas. They are related to the Krill Mother (abyss), which I expect to be a corrupted 'Greater Sky Dragon'. They have many eyes to sight predators such as whales who would eat them for sustenance, (hence the whale's creepy jaws).

The Krill has 4 wings, two main ones which help them thrust into the wind, two back ones that help with mobility and turning, and finally a collection of wings that help it catch currents and keep flying.

(OC LORE) - context for the Art
" The Ark was now so far, the sunset of the Wasteland was as bleak as it's dawn.

The air was thick and dry, the repugnant smell of darkstone residue seemingly filled the air. Somehow, when I fell that down trough the dunes and into this continent's deserted badlands.

The landscape shifted as soon as the clouds started to fade, small flowers and mushrooms that I'd turn into stews populated these arid gardens.

These lands were populated by crab colonies, they were smaller than the one's in the Kingdom with yellowish kind eyes. Their shells were made of glass as to see their glowing light.

I set camp no farther than a ledge away from the Oasis, using the tent The Alchemist gave me. When a call bellowed in the distance.

In the hidden forest, I have heard the calls of the Manta, the Whale, the Jelly and the bird. This call, was different from them all.

I ran down the hill and found myself in prescence of a member of a bygone species. One that I repeatedly studied in the Golden Marina, the elusive Dark Dragon.

Light creature's lantern found me, bathing me in a golden rain. I flinched for a while, force of habit it seemed. Yet, when I conquered my fear, it came closer.

It's face was littered with eyes. It's muzzle was soft and warm.

Coinciding with the mural I had found in the old ship, the Creature had 18 wings, 9 on each side..." - Sol's Jounal

So wdyg think abt it?

[wheat cypress]

I LOVE ITTTT AAA.... the descriptions the backstory all of it

[lyric isle]

hello that was me

[wheat cypress]

Now I wanna write my own fics

[tepid veldt]

do it
looks at my 9k google doc for oc lore its fun

[hushed steeple]

Talking Abt OC's I wanted to introduced mine, since most of you guys have, can I?

[tepid veldt]

do it!! i love reading the stories people come up with
i swear im turning into book salem all in the name of avoiding practicing, ig

[noble ferry]

i'd like to dump about my sky au sometime which has some new types of skids and other stuff
but uhhh i have no idea what im doing with it tbh

[noble ferry]

also do not avoid the practice or pianolul will haunt you in your sleep for not practicing 40 hours at least 20 to 30 minutes

[tepid veldt]

not the pianolul ok i will leave
i practice for like 15 lmao

[shy compass]

Where do we know the name "Alef" from??

[snow cosmos]

iydll this is your house they can't kick you out

[tepid veldt]

when was it my house

[noble ferry]

i think alef came from the concept art names but not sure which one, i'll have to grab my trusty shovel and dig through a lot of them

[snow cosmos]

you live here don't you?

[tepid veldt]

i think so? im all over the place tbh
but this is definitely because my more frequent spot, still not used to getting ponged

ah lesons startinf im goin

[hushed steeple]

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This is Sol an adventurer and nomad who went trough and Eden trauma arc, he was helped by Modest and Mellow to open up, and has been learning Alchemist's recipes. He was raised by Stealthy and has been amazed by Krill.

He has a pet crab Marble, and a Hawk named Viento.

He's looking to find more light creatures and plants to help the studies of his guild, who work towards rebuilding the history of sky and helping the world heal. He lately has stumbled upon the Oasis of Solitude, home to many birds, dragons and slugs. *this is an abriged version.

Ooh and his guild is called the Vault Institute. With many muralist and scribes exploring the many realms to preserve their history and can fix memory crystals, from which they saw pre-corruption Sky.

Sound familiar?

[austere bridge]

vaguely

[hushed steeple]

I made the Vault Institute based on Lorechat! There's a scribe that always is rambling on reality and a place called Office. A muralist that can turn into a bird and a scribe that did a mural on pre-apocalypse Golden Wasteland, there's a scribe that relentlessly studies the Starlight Desert and another that dwells on poems, and many more!

[austere bridge]

ah
skid lorechatian

[untold notch]

the lore chat skykid collective i want to make a sona but it requires beta content

[tepid veldt]

i think all of my ocs have some part of me in them (some a tad more vague than others) and ive yet to make a skysona

[torn eagle]

#eden-spoilers message by Orion

Anyone noticed this detail?

[raw crypt]

omg what thats so cool

[frigid tinsel]

that's sick.
sad, but really touching. I should try that.

[untold notch]

why is eden so Sad Now

[tepid veldt]

oh sweet i get to cry more
now all i need is friends

[frigid tinsel]

I think it was always supposed to be, but the vets complained it was getting too stale and easy. which I agree. I remember feeling so impacted by Eden and ascension the first times I went, then months of continuous running sort of gammified it.

the new poses of the petrified skykids, the crystals, the crawling, the new death animation – it's all new and much more emotionally poignant than it had been for me for a while. it makes me feel for my skykid and all the other skids who brave this hellscape.

[raw crypt]

YEAH

[frigid tinsel]

honestly I always thought in-universe skykids were much more affected by darkness than they had been shown in-game. skykids crawling beneath the overwhelming force of darkness, until they die in various positions is much more realistic.

[south oracle]

Last time I did that with a friend their statue just glitched halfway into mine

[untold notch]

its the thought that counts

[spring python]

I still havent been to new eden but I agree, slay

[wheat cypress]

New Eden? What did they change?

[frigid tinsel]

Eden was changed with the Shattering update. new statues, crawling when extinguished, lost winged light notification, added Eden mural, harder stormlock

[eternal totem]

I complained the first few updates but actually it's not that bad, it's more challenging

[raw crypt]

i quite like the changes! on top of the emotional stuff, it feels more rewarding to have gotten all the statues nowadays, idk i like the challenge

[frigid tinsel]

yea, it's harder but not impossibly so. rip solo Eden runners, but at the same time, the devs never intended for Eden to be run solo. you get the text when you pass the Eden gate to travel in groups. you're supposed to die alongside your friends

I suppose that's the point of Sky in general, of how light thrives – together

[south oracle]

I feel really bad for moths who friend me in eden because I always use the glitch and don't want to ruin their first time 😭

[pale trellis]

oh wow? that's pretty cool for the changes

[eternal totem]

I run Eden solo just fine, 120 WL for at least 60-62 statues, hah

[sudden sleet]

@spice musk I know you intended the art repost respectfully, but the server rules don’t allow reposting other people’s art. You’re welcome to post a link to the original that’s in the #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations channel if you like, though

[potent sedge]

i love the changes honestly, it makes it more impactful

[compact shale]

By new statues

They mean that statues have different poses and some have more than one skykid now

Though the other skykids in one statue might be unsavable corpses... or they're light souped

[eternal totem]

Dibs on light soup I love light soup it's unreal

Striking the light soup beam uncontrollably

[compact shale]

Turning into light soup is easy!

Just choose a friend and die in their arms!

Just don't choose an enemy or your life may suck!

[eternal totem]

They'll separate once reborn anyway, unless they wish not to

[compact shale]

Who will you soup with today?

[eternal totem]

My friends :)

[compact shale]

More than one?

[eternal totem]

Yessir

[keen shore]

I LOVE YOU SOUP #soupsweep

[eternal totem]

#SOUPSWEEP

[hoary flare]

I'm not sure where I can discuss my fanlore so I'm hoping I can make a thread

Can't.
Sad
Oh well

I'm currently making a realistic map of sky based on how things would fit together in a realistic way.

Sadly I have no idea how to render mountains or other things.

[eternal totem]

You could make simplified mountains, in the shape of "^", it doesn't have to be detailed as long as it gets the idea across!

[sharp lichen]

There’s plenty of versions, including one made by TGC: #lore-discussion-spoilers message

[frigid tinsel]

That was made by NetEase, not TGC, so it’s canonicity is disputable.

One of Tom Zhao’s concept pieces also maps out of the world, but since this is concept art, again, it’s canonicity is disputable.

[keen shore]

‘Thisone is probably the one I could be most convinced of being canon I like it being a spiral and looking like a skeleton and it has vault in the right place so I like it

[potent sedge]

one day i wish we can explore the realms outside of the kingdom of sky, heck perhaps we might see journey's sand place again lol

[potent sedge]

so i think i might have an idea about sky. Sky is a game about individuality.
think about it for a lil bit, we're all born as star children, little white lights, and then we get cool stuff like hair, capes, even masks and stuff.
sky is about exploring our individuality as people, and we may go through hardships like GW or eden, but in the end, we're all gonna go back the same way we came, to orbit.

[manic owl]

Guys just want to ask, does anyone have a note or maybe full document about sky lore theories? I've found one and it's containing the lore from the very first sky kid had fallen until how the sky kingdom become the reality we know now. It is very interesting but at some points imo they don't really have strong evidences for it. Still im very entertained I kinda new here so if someone already shared that would you help me to find it?

[noble ferry]

At one point there was the theory vault which you could try to search up in lore chat but i dont think that's been updated for many months
There's also the "more updated" lore doc by Baudshaw (though i've heard that it needs a little updating)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit

[potent sedge]

honestly i'm kinda hoping we get a chance to see an animal elder or an animal seasonal guide like the concept art of the elders

[manic owl]

Thankyou so much, big love ❤️❤️❤️

[granite sequoia]

I read a fic where twins are said to be born under one star and just split into different people, so I like to think that these hugging eden statues are twins who died together and thats why they only need one winglight

[compact shale]

Oooooo :0

[soft timber]

I heard light soup and now I'm going to drag my friends into my arms and play a tune before they solidify before me

[tame prairie]

Does anyone have that Eden concept art stuff? I’ve tried looking for it but can’t find it but I’m pretty sure I once saw it

[copper saffron]

Theres a lot of it, you could try checking tom zhao's website

[tame prairie]

Yeah I already did that but I couldn’t find specifically Eden TwT

[crude flame]

There is technically Eden concept art on Tom Zhao’s site, but it looks much different! It was black and white as apposed red, and the corrupted king was present there
You can find more than this, I’m not sure if it’s what you were looking for or not, but I hope it helps

[noble tide]

I mostly see it as the elders finally deciding to try and do something about the diamond, like destroying it

Also so sorry about the ping

[tame prairie]

Yeah I was searching for that! But I actually didn’t see that piece at all on his website 😅

[copper saffron]

Lmao
The king boss fight really makes me go tho

[crude flame]

It’s there! Just at the veryyy bottom !

[tame prairie]

It didn’t load for me previously jdhfhhjs

[crude flame]

It was really interesting I agree
I understand why it was likely scrapped, but I still would’ve loved to see it

[rustic glen]

That sounds interesting, do you have the doc?

[tepid veldt]

kinda forgot we were supposed to have boss fights with the elders tbh
imagining that prairie elder just traps us in their pot like were butterflies

[manic owl]

Yes i will send you through dm if you dont mind

[sharp lichen]

Oh yeah… uhh I was supposed to make a part 2 then forgor

[noble ferry]

it ok, take your time

[slate saffron]

Forgor? How about forgo the sins of man?

[hushed steeple]

is there a chance of dying in eden without ever finding the prince? it’s the quest that I’ve been avoiding …

[round parrot]

can you elaborate? Do you mean the room after dying in Eden? Or is it the last Shattering quest?

[hushed steeple]

it’s the quest found in the starlight desert with the rose, as for the eden location I sort of figured it’d be the main area with the rubble where the sky child risks losing all their light

[round parrot]

OHHH! I think that is more fitting to be in #questions-and-help

[simple flicker]

Season of the little prince messed me up despite knowing how it ended beforehand.

[hushed steeple]

oh dear

do I need to mark it as spoilers when putting the question in the other channel? if so, how do I do that

[round parrot]

you can ask that too in #questions-and-help

Basically you just have to put "||" at the start and at the end of your message

[hushed steeple]

gotcha

[compact shale]

Hello lorechat! I have just finished writing a story about the horrifying reality of light souping!

[round parrot]

0 days without lorechat making Sky a horrifying experience

[compact shale]

Don't worry I'm not even sure if it's skycord friendly

[copper saffron]

What even is light souping

[compact shale]

Basically, when two skykid souls become one

[eternal totem]

Or many if you're feeling extra

[eternal totem]

Gimme gimme

[keen copper]

Imagine light souping 8 skids

[copper saffron]

Tasty

[simple flicker]

This implies that there could potentially be light abominations------ wait what if that's how corruption is started-----

[tepid veldt]

eden diamond had too much soup and went boom

[round parrot]

What if the soup is cold

[simple flicker]

Too many souls lost for progress and for what? The cost was too great

I saw that fork and knife

[round parrot]

||Omg a Pale King reference??||
LOOK, I MEANT TO FIND A FORK EMOJI FOR THE REFERENCE

[tepid veldt]

no cost is too great tho /ref

[simple flicker]

Yessssssss

[compact shale]

who wants gore ?

[tepid veldt]

i mean why not, hopefully no bonks

[round parrot]

no promises

[simple flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boyz-tbz-nyuhak-newhak-haknew-gif-26476059

[tepid veldt]

epic embed fail

[compact shale]

I mean not exactly gore, but I'll have to DM it to you

[round parrot]

I mean, I like this "Light is a soup" concept, ||one of my OCs literally separated their light with no injuries (aside from memory loss) by their own will to save a friend||

[simple flicker]

Ok but like. You know how in ||frozen 2|| they're like the water remembers? What if light does the same?

[slate saffron]

Caveman season when?

[keen copper]

Light spider

[uncut pond]

Skids said "this world sucks I should've stayed in the primordial light soup" and they go back in time

[distant turtle]

I wish I could go back to the memories and examine the large shattered diamond internal structure. The design has some similarities to depictions of a hypercube and other 4D shapes, doesn’t it? With the nested smaller octahedrons.

[wheat cypress]

I just realized something really obvious .... in wasteland, the krills fly over the graveyard right? They fly over the turtle corpses. What if the creatures the krills used to be, died an unnatural death like in the concept art, and as a result, when they died their spirits rose out of their skeletons as krills? Like, the krills are the corrupted spirits of the light creatures they used to be.

Oh my gosh ur right wow

[wheat cypress]

Woahhhh.... 3d model... that's so cool

[distant turtle]

There’s a hollow with the same shape, and then in the very center, there’s a small intact diamond shape.

[wheat cypress]

Ooo yeah I see it

[round parrot]

Hope this helps
(ping off)

If you need an original picture of the first one, let me know

[wheat cypress]

I made a super long video while I was inside the diamond... but I can't send it cuz the file's so large

[distant turtle]

Wow! Yes I see it in yours.

[distant turtle]

I wonder if anyone has snapped a screenshot of this little diamond over in Eden! It would be difficult with all the fog and from our angle. It doesn’t rotate like the shattering guide.

[wheat cypress]

Thankfully the shattering guide model is very accurate of the one in the ancient memory... and much easier to look at for that matter

Yeah ur right.... much too foggy

[distant turtle]

I guess fog is the wrong word

[wheat cypress]

Yeah ... more like nope we won't let you see anything video filter fog

[distant turtle]

Dust clouds

[still portal]

Wow
that's really look like a 4D

[round parrot]

Should I mention the shaking of the diamond itself?

The shaking of the diamond also makes it hard to see, and not to mention the windwalls preventing Skykids to enter the diamond

[wheat cypress]

Yeah.... that would make it even harder

Also the sheer terror of being inside something that massive and destructive

[round parrot]

||Living in a bomb||

[wheat cypress]

Ignoring gameplay, I honestly think that Sky kids cannot actually go near the diamond bc if they did all their light would drain and they'd die... similarly to red shards but faster and worse since it's the largest force of darkness in our kingdom

It probably wouldn't be something a Sky kid could recover from either

[distant turtle]

I don’t know if this floor is implying that these bad boys are the light creature predecessors of krills or if devs are just showing us some extinct megafauna but I like to wonder. This floor in Vault does represent Wasteland, with the skeletons and the constellation not shown here.

[still portal]

Sky lore explorers: think about physics, 4D, metaphors etc
tgc who just wanted make a peace indi game:😶 🤑

[wheat cypress]

Oh... again the creature and its skeleton in the same place 🤔 that's an interesting detail

[round parrot]

The closer Skykids get to the diamond, the more unlikely another Skykid would come to revive their statue

[round parrot]

I have a mini theory that the spirit light creatures here are extinct, only having memories of them remaining (certail species of manta can go extinct, like the Dodo bird for example, it is extinct, but the entire bird population isn't, yet)

[wheat cypress]

Although you make a point, since as it stands the only way to get out of Eden is for another skid to revive your stone.... there's still room in the theory for the Eye to be destructive enough to make a Sky kid unrecoverable

[round parrot]

The rocks could literally destroy the statue, that's one thing (like the unfortunate Skykid before PNR)

[wheat cypress]

🥲 may their soul rest in peace with megabirb

[round parrot]

Speaking of statues before pnr.. Why can't we save them? I mean, it is quite obvious that there are blue crystals on them, but how are the blue crystals stopping us from saving them?

[torn eagle]

I side with alisdair on why we cant deposit light into this statue

We believe that the statue before pnr has already been saved and only the body is left thats why it crumbled because theres nothing left there to save

[round parrot]

Ohhh so it's like, the darkness just grew on it? Is it also the explanation as to why there is not crack on said statue(s)?

Gtg sleep now, gnight Lorechat!

[wheat cypress]

That makes sense... gnight Myst

Oh my gosh you guys there's a plant on the shelf..... a normal plant

[slate saffron]

Unnatural geometry doomed the kingdom of sky

[keen copper]

Well, plants were still plants back then

[wheat cypress]

Also I noticed the kids mask looks a little too big for them... could the Ancestors have found them without a mask and gave themm a spare one that was fitted for an adult?

[slate saffron]

WOOO FINALLY THAT'S WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT

In all seriousness, it's nice to know light plants (and by extention light creatures) have something that makes them inherently distinct from the more normal ones & not that light-things are just the base form of life for the kingdom at large

[keen copper]

Which sucks that now all non-light life is dead now

[compact shale]

On the note of neutral plants...

What if some of the masks depicted neutral creatures?

Neutral creatures that went extinct during the shattering before they could even flock towards the diamond (if they even wanted to)

Creatures with lots of light could endure more and creatures with lots of darkness didn't get affected as much so they were more likely to survive

[wheat cypress]

Vewy intewesting..... my Lore brain is finally turned on

It's been off for a little while lol

[keen copper]

Like ducks, spiders, dragons (maybe), various other birds, frogs and lions and the like

[slate saffron]

Very plausible! It does make me wonder however how neutral creatures operate(d) under the megabird's system. Do neutral creatures ascend like light creatures or do they all just die "unnatural" deaths? Are they even connected to the megabird? & if not did they develop independently of it's influence?

But most importantly
are the fish at Home neutral creatures?

[wheat cypress]

I'd also like to note that the hands and fingers in the animation trailer are so smooth and nice ... in comparison to well.. you know what

[keen copper]

Their probably not connected, since you don't see any of them in ||orbit||

[violet sundial]

I was under the impression ALL life is light, barring things like Oreo that aren’t really… canon(?)

The plant could just not be in a flowering stage where it would be more obvious that it’s made from Light right…?

[violet sundial]

I don’t think so. They’re probably just so small that there’s no room for any detailing

Kind of like butterflies, but the lack of a glow doesnt really change it since mantas don’t glow to begin with

[keen copper]

Who can say except mega bird, but I'm under the impression that not all life is light

[slate saffron]

At the same time plants such as the trees & grass in the teaser don't seem to glow either. So while it's possible that the plant shown isn't in a flowering state where it would otherwise more obviously be a light-thing, at the same time the plant could just be some type of fern.

[violet sundial]

Well, the grass in game can be produced with Green Light so i doubt that one is neutral at least

[snow cosmos]

green light stimulates growth but i don't think that necessarily means the things that grow are themselves made of light

[slate saffron]

True, but if I remember correctly mantas DO glow under the right conditions (like the one in wasteland that gets eaten on screen), but considering the fact that whales don't seem to glow this probably doesn't mean much

[snow cosmos]

i imagine that creatures like birds and some mantas, as well as plants like the light blooms in Forest and Reef, glow because their skin/plant matter is thin enough to allow their light to sort of... diffuse out into the environment, hence why our light recharges when we're close to them. whales may not glow because their skin is thicker. the turtle in Sanctuary and the eel in Reef discharge their excess light through other processes, maybe whales do something similar?

[keen shore]

Counterpoint: wouldn’t it be so cool if everything living was made of light to some degree? I think there are flowers that recharge you in starlight desert but as for grass, it might not have enough to recharge us beyond a little bit

[distant turtle]

Whales sound like neutral then too, right? Also the clams and sea turtle.

[keen copper]

Hot take: Whales discharge their excess light by barfing

[distant turtle]

It would be cool if in this animation we get an aerial view of Sky showing features from Isle or Prairie and Valley in one shot.

[distant turtle]

How do we even define what is meant by light in this game?

[keen copper]

Well, anything with inherently warm colors

[keen shore]

I mean . Light. The thing that makes up all living things. It glows, it kinda pulses, it has a really faint song and it helps us do things

[keen copper]

In colors like: white, yellow, orange, and red kind of

[keen shore]

Sometimes things made of light are in cool colors! Like spirits. :] & so categorizing them by color may not be the best option!

[keen copper]

True

[dusty skiff]

I have a question…does every spirt have a story?

[eternal totem]

Normal plant & all but the details on the mask... it's hand carved... later (presumably) the same kid in the Switch trailer is wearing a smoother mask; must've changed it

[keen copper]

Most of them do, you can see it when you relive them and see their cutscenes

[slate saffron]

COUNTERcounterpoint: wouldn't it be equally cool if there were things entirely separate from the cycle of rebirth & light that have/had existed long before the emergence of light creatures? Imagine being a deer & one day while you're eating grass or whatever deer do the sky claps open out comes a typhoon of mantas & now you just kinda gotta deal with them.

Imagine being a normal person when that happens

[slate saffron]

Maybe, but if so then they'd be the only neutral creature we see in game ascend, which would be very confusing.

[distant turtle]

Pretty unfair to our sea turtle friend

[slate saffron]

Fair enough

[frigid tinsel]

turtle gives off green light, so it's likely also a light creature

[coarse dune]

Do we have any theory of why the diamond shattered?

[keen shore]

I kinda get it but I don’t think it makes a lot of sense, if light is supposed to be life then why are there living things outside of it?

[frigid tinsel]

it's likely that all living things in the world have light, though their ratio of light to flesh/material will vary

[violet sundial]

This yeah

If i’m gonna be honest??? I don’t think theres like. Almost Any canon neutral creatures???

“Neutral” would be more like… a balanced mix of Light and Dark

[keen shore]

I agree!! Just like… low-light creatures (light but don’t have a lot of it) and corrupted ones

[frigid tinsel]

or neutral creatures are those absent of both light and darkness

[violet sundial]

That’s incredibly tough to wrap my head around tbh.

[keen shore]

I know, but if light is everything alive, and all current dark creatures are just light but corrupted to a kinda zombie esque form, then how are you devoid of light and still alive while not being essentially a moving corpse?

[violet sundial]

Like. I could see Oreo being that but oreo’s Actual canonicity is like. Dubious since he’s supposed to be more of an easter egg

[keen shore]

I understand them existing theoretically I just can’t see them actually working, especially with my current perception of how light & dark work. even krills in my brain have a tiny bit of light thats constantly being sapped and if it drained completley they’d collapse and decompose, hence why they steal ours, to avoid that fate

[frigid tinsel]

some call crabs neutral creatures cos they can be passive or aggressive based on whether they have darkness rabies or not, but their eyes glow so they do have light. krill, likewise, have that blue/red searchlight they use to see and find other beings of light, so they have light as well. the leviathan also has glowing red eyes. so it seems all dark/corrupted creatures have light to some capacity, their nature has just been warped by darkness

[keen shore]

I see darkness as roughly equivalent to death in general so anything that only has darkness within itself is just. dead.

[violet sundial]

YEAH CRABS. i think there was a promotional image of them with white underbellies and yellow eyes and tbh i kinda wish they’d kept that iteration

[keen shore]

yeah this is what I’m saying!! crabs are probably light but most of the ones we see are corrupted to varying degrees, as well as krills having a tiny bit of light that they cling onto for dear life and which is constantly vanishing, like ur version of corrupted skykids but worse

[violet sundial]

Also i would very much like to think that plants that don’t look glowy at all in the trailer are still light plants(in a sense) and it’s more about, like… i need to find the word for it

[keen shore]

now that I think about it, based off my hc of krills being corrupted manta conglomerates that merged to conserve light after being drained, they could probably subsume mantas into the whole for the same reason even after being created, which makes me feel very bad for the manta who gets krilled 24/7 and also is terrifying to think about. Imagining them nesting under refineries to do this

[violet sundial]

I think it’s more about the visual presentation because the action isn’t at that little potted plant and the viewer is supposed to be looking at what’s happening with the Ancestors. So having it be super bright would throw off the composition of the scene and be too distracting

ALSO i think plants like that + grass might just Be like that even as Light “creatures” and only actually light up when something disturbs it/touches it

We see this with several in-game plants like the Flower-inspired lilies, Light Blooms and the grass itself, which subtly becomes brighter when we walk through it. And in the trailer too with that flower that emits glowing “pollen” and the light blooms next to the tree where the crabs look at the traveling Ancestors from

[violet sundial]

Oooh manta soup

[keen shore]

Yes! Krills are just one example of many things I have turned into soup. :]

[violet sundial]

Megabird is just like. One big soup bowl

[eternal totem]

The cooking pot

[violet sundial]

I think it’d be cool if darkness plants could be used like… composting plants in a way? And would explain why baffled botanist has them (i think…?????)

Like, ancestors like them could use the plants to break down and extract Light from dead/rotting things to use for whatever, specifically by burning the darkness plants when they’re deemed ready

[eternal totem]

Or extract darkness?

Like a Grief Seed

[keen shore]

You joke but this is what I call the cave tearful light miner is in
other names include “the blender” and “the stock pot”

[eternal totem]

Seafood boil‼️

[violet sundial]

Oooh that too, yeah.

I feel it’d do Both cus the dark plant would take in both and the darkness could be burned off to release the trapped Light

Tearful Light Miner meguca/hj

[eternal totem]

Being meguca is suffering

[violet sundial]

“Hey wanna make a contract?” -some random manta

[eternal totem]

Me after striking everything with the soup beam

[violet sundial]

JAHDJSBISNSKBD

[keen shore]

STRIKING EVERYTJINF WITH THE SOUP BEAM REAL

[eternal totem]

I'm normal #sweepsoup

[lyric isle]

of course I arrive to this

[violet sundial]

Ok actually yknow what… i just. Thought of.

[lyric isle]

I have a tendency to arrive to really weird things by accident. I love it

[keen shore]

thinking of souping some lightseekers I feel like they’d be extremely conducive to the souping, especially b4 they became lightseekers

[frigid tinsel]

Pioneer is technically a salad, does that count

[eternal totem]

To me, by default, the seasonal guides are already soup; some aren't buuut

[violet sundial]

Actually nvm idk how i’d go about this

Was thinking abt sky lotus flowers more but I think i’m gonna think abt it a bit longer….

[eternal totem]

The term soup is confusing out of context like why are we cooking these Ancestors

[violet sundial]

I would kill to see a lake of lotus flowers in game honestly because they’re just. Gorgeous plants

[trim yoke]

What type of soup? 👁️👄👁️

[austere bridge]

we aren’t, megabirb is just a big soup bowl and they are in it

[eternal totem]

Generational soup

[trim yoke]

So moff soup then? /J

[eternal totem]

Passing the torch but Literally passing it, like here you go my boy all of our knowledge is stored in this light keep it safe

[trim yoke]

Ah yes the new players like the elders like "is that light? Not anymore, I stole it "
Cough twins

[eternal totem]

Yeah but imagine you're new here & the first thing you see is a bunch of very normal individuals cooking spirits in a pot just because it's interesting, I would be scared but intrigued

[keen shore]

Could you explain this? Like the other spirits of their season kinda imprinting on them or something? Sounds super interesting

[keen shore]

I’m imagining it like

Person becomes soup -> has two peoples worth of excess light -> everyone already thinks they’re super weird so they don’t care abt getting weirder -> becomes lightseeker bc it comes naturally to them bc of excess light

[keen shore]

“what spirits would you put in a pot & cook and why is it tearful light miner”

[eternal totem]

So like *a very large train passes by *
& that's how it works

I mean it as a more a discrete way to store & pass knowledge (it's not written or stored anywhere,) it's not their whole light but only a fragment of it, it shouldn't greatly affect the heir unless it was passed really young

[keen shore]

WAIT I THINK I GET IT. like, they’re each part of kinda large lines (as in, the seasonal guides this applies to) and the soup part is their predecessors knowledge? if so can I ask how that works for enchantment guide, I think you mentioned a few times it would have gotten passed down when they’re really young and also if you run with the idea of them dying first in the crash I’m wondering who got it after, if anyone

Sorry if this is too much prying I’m just Very interested it sounds neat akdjaowoalqnsd

[livid brook]

the king is alive,the king of sky is trapped in his own creation,eden, he is that one shinny boi we hug to escape it,he is saving the next generation from his mistake,he made r e b i r t h(also fun fact skykids are technacally elders,a whole new race of them

[frigid tinsel]

wut

[regal forge]

Has anyone else noticed the reaction of the season guide to skids when you get close? Especially in the void-like area?

[livid brook]

yea i hav ... dark u okaeh?u keep typing and stopping

[frigid tinsel]

people sometimes stop typing to think about what they're writing, be patient

[eternal totem]

Yes I'm just typing the independence of the United States

[eternal totem]

KICKS MY FEET YES it's like they're a flow of light, a river. I haven't thought what would happen to it after Enchantment passes, either Alchemist absorbs it back since they're family; although it not be a good idea since they're old, or it simply vanishes with their soul— so much of the knowledge regarding colored light is lost because it only remains in memory, in Enchantment's memories of their friends & family (the crew)

I'm not sure how to explain in detail why it would cause issues to young Enchantment, they haven't formed memories of their own yet to differentiate what's theirs & the light that flows through them; their parent ended up passing more than usually required because they were dying soon & Enchantment would be unable to meet the rest of the family growing up

I'm Normal hope this makes sense

[livid brook]

bruh sooooooooooooo long im shocked u typed that much,not saying its bad im impressed 👌

[eternal totem]

Thanks

[sharp lichen]

What is this soup discussion on hungry now

[keen shore]

It does make sense!! And yeah your explanation with enchantment guide [both of them] make sense to me, I’d never considered knowledge being transmitted via light as a thing before, but it makes a lot of sense :]

I really love it as a way to spread generational knowledge without it getting written down/in memory lanterns, especially in situations like this where the person passing it down wouldn’t have time to record it. it’s like, a cooler and instant version of it getting passed down orally

[shrewd mango]

Guys pls it's 3 am and y'all discussing about soup people and cooking them up.. should I be worried/JJ

[regal forge]

Hey I still want to know where the valley elder put my light-

[keen shore]

I think I’m gonna nab the general concept of light knowledge gettin transmitted like that for headcanons if it’s ok, although I will always mention you as the person who spawned it Dark :] it’s too cool to pass up

[frigid tinsel]

light soup is not for eating

[uncut pond]

Do y'all think the ancestors could explode if they absorb too much knowledge and that's why they have memory lanterns and all that?

[eternal totem]

Please DO I'm an old lady here's my purse

[eternal totem]

Actually I thought of this, Enchantment is a chronic head hurty person, they're not going to explode but some days are difficult

Funny answer:

[keen shore]

cowardice, you’re just too scared to slurp up the spaghetti conglomerate god aren’t you

[frigid tinsel]

yes, you could eat the light soup, but you would become soup in the process. is that worth it?

[eternal totem]

Which type of soup is your spirit

[sharp lichen]

I don’t like soupy spirits

[eternal totem]

Red lentil soup

[uncut pond]

hjönk

[keen shore]

Megabird chicken noodle