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I know but it’s scary
RAAAAAAAAAH
Behold, Balling Elder
HUERGGHY GAUWYQGQHAGGAHG/
NO NO NO NO NO
GTE OUT OF MY HEADSDDSDD
Good thing there is no emote for doing a rolly polly.
Otherwise we can add balling chibis to the growing list of chibi variants.
(see wall chibis, floor chibis, cloud chibis)
why must I arrive to this

there is an elder among us
i remember laughing so much when i sent something like this when i was still new to lorechat lol
someone post Tsadito
Tasdito?? 😭
swag
OH DORITOS TSADI. For some reason I thought we got Danny DeVito Tsadi
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
credit: Vela
glorious
Tsadi during the implied war
"So anyway, I started jumping"
And the moth nearly died.
new voice hc idea
Behold, again.
A balling Wooly Manta
Credit: Vela#1518
Ballyin
Holding them Gently 
post woolymanta
the noise ever
TSADITO
Wooly manta has been put in the shame cone for their crimes of stealing Daleth's strawberries
what did they do?
That made me wheeze, congrats XD
wooly manta talk? 
oops forgot i changed my nickname
Hi idyll! 
Can't help but imagine Daleth (Dawn Elder) tending to a strawberry garden.
With a sun hat and everything
lovely image
Prairie elder helps them
We bring Baffled Botanist over to help and they're in awe at actually getting to meet an Elder only for Daleth to sit them down for tea and start telling them stories about how Isle used to be a lush paradise. Baffled is then determined to help restore Isle to it's former glory and begins to research ways to help plants keep themselves rooted in the loose sand of Isle.
that is the cutest thing ive read all day
Ayin (Day elder) is so giant, they take tiny chopstick to plant the seeds. While Daleth marks the holes and lines with their staff.
Vault would bring out ice tea after a few minutes.
I would love to have something like that for next Days of Nature! Just something involving Isle and raising funds to help charities plant trees and protect against deforestation.
and then a little green patch stays in isle after the event 
Spirits: Tries to plant a tree that would not die when the event is over.
Elders: "I got you fam"
Que Skykids excitedly honking at elders helping spirits grow the saplings in every realm.
Agreed. And I mean every realm with an elder present.
i somehow got the image of rain accidentally smacking a giant hole in the ground with their hammer for just a tiny seed
packing the earth over the seed
No no no, Rain's hammer is a multipurpose tool that can transform into different tools for creating different things. They till the soil.
Forest Elder: Wham!
Dawn Elder: 😶
Day Elder: Gently drops a seed in the hole
Why do I suddenly sense the twins?
Would they switch out the seeds for pepper corns?
Would the seeds be Apple tree seeds?
Would they bring the elder bird in for a visit?
Would they help with the planting, but then make a competition out of it?
Rain gets them to help by making a competition out of who can plant the most seeds in a certain amount of time.
the entire area is covered with little lumps of soil 2 minutes later
I love how my meme about wooly manta being put in the shame cone for eating Dawn's strawberries turned into an adorable image of the Elders working together to restore Isle.
That is the power of the lorechat, and the Wooly Manta.
In all honesty, I did not expect that reaction either and I drew the thing.
oh my gosh the Elders have their own get together during Days of Feast and celebrate the first plant they managed to successfully grow 
Wooly Manta question: Can Skykids lie down on it as if it was a pillow? Or will it hurt the Wooly Manta? 
I think they’ll lie on it without any harm!
Also, do Wooly Mantas need sheering? Or do they enjoy the heat that their fluffy bodies give them since they are light creatures? Iirc, sheeps need sheering because their fluffy bodies is like an ever-growing sweater
they grow woolier and woolier
but are wooly mantas and regular mantas of the same species? would a sheered wooly manta be a regular manta?
I wonder if the birds and butterflies might be the ||reincarnated souls of the children we see flying with us in orbit||
Butterflies have a symbolism of the dead iirc, so I won't be surprised if you were right 
Fair

omg morpho knight in sky /j
I do have a kinda head canon like that, where it’s like light creatures/spirits etc that got torn apart by darkness too badly to be reformed or saved in their original state became butterflies and help us out, idk I just think it’s cute
no way
funny that you mention morpho knight, i got their blueprint yesterday 
yes
RAHHHHHHHHHH……..hi guys
(3 hours late let's go)
my headcanon is that as a child the Forest Elder was given materials to build and create with and wasn't aware of where they came from. they sort of became the poster child of the industrial revolution and didn't realize until they got older what a toll that was taking on the environment, but by then the people had come to rely on the technology and so Forest Elder felt like it was too late to stop it. so they're not malicious, but jaded and trapped in something they helped create
I wonder what would happen if a Skykid hugged a real human? Would they burn? Or would they feel comfortable?
Who would burn? I think Skykids would be drawn to a human's warmth
i think the question is whether the human would burn
It'll feel like hugging a cozy blanket tbh
(Skykid awkwardly headbutts human)
They seem to have a flame within so I'd say it would be like cuddling a warm lamp 
Kay i was pointed here to ask why the isle guardian's mask isnt on the ||eden|| portal. Could someone explain?
There’s a pretty common theory (I believe it as well) that they were excluded from the other elders, due to not agreeing with the darkstone/refinery practices (I can explain this if you wish!)
Please do explain i gotta tell this to my other friend who noticed this
Alright so.
Darkstone are those bluish crystals you find around the realms. You hold your candle up to them and activate them, typically to open doors. You can find chunks of the unrefined stuff scattered around the underwater part of treasure reef.
Refineries are places where the unrefined stuff was turned into the diamond shape you see everywhere and then charged with light. Examples of this are the forest temple, the second area of wasteland and probably treasure reef. Unfortunately the method used to charge them with light so that they could function (hence why our candles turn them on) involves stealing light from light creatures like mantas, leading to extremely Not Great things, hence why isle didn’t like it
y=(0.5x+0.5)*z is the exact formula for darkstone charging, we somehow figured it out
OHhh cool. might i ask though why the isle temple doors open with those light activated diamonds?
Perhaps they were gifts, the first power diamonds made, given to Dawn in hopes of convincing them that power diamonds, despite the cruelty involved in the process, were good. Seems to not have worked
What happens to the drained things?
according to many theories, they die or become corrupted (example: krill)
💀
So krill are just corrupted whales?
Doesn't valley not have the diamonds either?
I mean their comparable in size
krill have been confirmed to be corrupted, likely corrupted light creatures, but we don't know what they used to be
krill are certainly corrupted something, though we don't have confirmation as to what. i'm personally fond of the theory that they're conglomerations of drained manta corpses
i'm not sure how many are seen in valley proper, but they do power the lifts seen in Village of Dreams
Or maybe they were a creature of light but they were apparently so good at charging dark stones there aren't any light ones left
YEAH THATS MY HEADCANON, one of only two pieces of evidence I had for it got straight up removed from the game, so I usually call it an hc instead — but I refuse to let go of it because I think it’s extremely cool and makes the most sense to me
by king krill do you mean the Very Large Fish from abyss?
He's probably a corrupted whale
Or something even larger like that one mantwhale in sanctuary
that's my current theory, i don't know what exactly it used to be though
this mural suggests to me that whatever it was, it was being trapped or stored underneath the facility until the ancestors could figure out how to process it into light, but their experiments went rather disastrously wrong
I like to imagine it was a long eel! Like an elder version of those blue ones we find around treasure reef
worm off the string /j
Or maybe the eels have extremely negative reactions when you try to harvest light from them, and turn into something like papa krill
asides from dying?
i actually hadn't thought much about this but i really like it
like, the ones we see give off light naturally, so it would make sense if their bodies had a strong defensive-aggression reaction to their internal light being messed with
there's light that's meant to diffuse through their skin and help nurture the environment, and there's light that's meant to stay inside and power them, and their bodies could have a strong almost immune-system-like response to a critical decrease in that internal light
That makes sense
which also begs the question: would there be a similar or equal-but-opposite response if something stopped them from being able to diffuse the light that's meant to be diffused? some sort of light buildup/overload causing a different kind of corruption?
Perhaps they would turn into an almost sun-like state of unreleased light?
that's what i was thinking! almost like, if the pressure builds up too much, they'll explode or something
i'm a big fan of the concept that not all dark is bad, and not all light is good, and that too much or not enough of either can cause dramatic damage
I just realized that the crabs look a lot like rocks
Are crabs just corrupted rocks?
Salem and I share the theory that crabs might be corrupted jellyfish
YOU ADOPTED IT TOO… 
i was gonna say that looking like rocks is probably more of an evolutionary camouflage thing but i like that better
i dont really have a headcannon for crabs, they just are 
They were rocks and then they were 
i think crabs are just crabs
there are corrupted and shard crabs, but there are also a couple uncorrupted crabs (found on a far island of sanctuary)
It’s this big fella! If you go all the way to the bottom of the big temple this guy is down there just chillin
that’s a big shellfish
Frying him in rice
I wonder if there were spirits elder sized because there is a lot of spears and shields around the size or the Wasteland Elder. Or were the spirits bigger than they are in the game because some stuff looked a bit big for the spirits?
Random thought
Where the first WL in Eden is located, has weapons. That place could probably be like a barracks or something a long those lines
Remake of my Skysona bingo because I had a few updates (also they finally have a name
)
Mine
(weapon is selected for Oritece but not Lipirela because the latter only uses their staff for noncombat)
can someone send me the bingo card
what's the wasteland suppose to be? shoreline?
Do you mean in the Light Awaits? If so, then yes, GW was meant to be Shores of Manna
Do sky kids need to eat? To survive?
Or… or is that what absorbing light is-
For some reason I’m only picturing a hoard of soldiers carrying one shield because wasteland didn’t realize it was too heavy and big for one guy to carry
I think it's more like superman, eating is just a hobby
Well in that case, have you ever taken a closer look at the tea table with the pastries? Or how about the new marshmallow on a stick?
It's all just light?
Always has been.
So what you’re saying is…. Hypothetically I could eat the bonfire
Hypothetically, yes. Yes you can.
oh yeah, I played the bingo once!
..how-
How long did that take you to get Bingo?
not sure if it’s even a bingo
not even sure if some squares count

mainly bc I’m not sure what accounts as ‘eden trauma’
for this character it’s more so about being forced to go so often by pushy mentors than the place itself (though it is quite horrific)? so ig that counts but not sure
Yeah it counts ! It can be any traumatic experience associated with Eden, I made it purposefully vague.
yea so it counts. that makes more sense
thank you for clarifying!
It's so wild to see something I made at 3am still being shared ngl 
Several traumatic experiences to put your oc through
Sky Topic:
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How the frick frack do the wings actually make any sense?
You mean wings as cape or winged lights?
Yes yes, I'm talking about the "cape".
That's another good point though. Why call it a cape anyway? Why not call it 'Wings of Light', or something?
NOPE ITS A CAPE
heheh did it with 4 of mine
I won't on a super long rant about how the magical light cape somehow sticks to our bodies, BUT HOW CAN IT EVEN GLIDE, LET ALONE CATCH AIR RESISTANCE?!
ITS. A. TRIANGLE.
Could be the power of the winged light ? Or maybe the skykids don't weight much to start with !
Had this headcanon they're hollow like flying lanterns, hence why they could be light enough to get lift from a lot of things !
I did a thing
empty bones just like birds hehe
If elders fell from the stars how well do you think they know the night sky?
Maybe it’s why there’s so much reflecting that.
The celestial globes in valley, the illusion of the night sky in vault, etc.
They could have been trying to teach the ancestors about the stars and constellations so maybe those constellations we see both spirit/season wise and friend wise mean something more than we’re giving in to
Both to culture and lore maybe
I wouldn’t be surprised if it connects to ascending in eden and the way the elders are able to be there too when you complete their constellation
Can anyone refill me with the mask lore of Sky? Need it for my OC< thank you! 
resharing my bingo card since that seems to be the trend (feat. Grim, Kestrel, Harken, Lumi, and Wisp)
My skykid commit violence against dark creatures, does that count as feral or nah
Probably not its completely justified
skykids may wear masks to mimic the ancestors wearing masks. Why ancestors wear masks isn’t clear, seems to be a cultural thing. Personally i don’t think the ancestors’ cultural reasons passed over to skykids — it’s just fashion to them.
We do know, thanks to Ash, that animal masks corfelate to types of jobs to the ancestors. Also that the Performance spirits crafted their own masks inspired by Performance guide.
does that mean spirits with bird masks handle.. well.. birds? 
if i had to guess i'd say bird masks = performers? based on performance guide + rhythm crew
I wonder why birds specifically?
Also, what are the colored lights' powers again? Need a refill on that too 
my first thought is that many birds are bright and colorful, they have unique songs, and a lot of them have interesting courtship displays
there's a lot to watch with birds, in general
Peeking Postman has a bunny mask, so mail carriers = rabbits, maybe
||The reason why I asked this is because of my little headcanon of my OC, they wear a mask, it is meant to symbolize masking yourself from something (like Eden trauma, perhaps?) and having this new identity, I wish I could expand more of this, but I do not have the braincells for it, nor the energy to
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What about lightseeker masks? Or masks that have marks generally?
i like this! especially if, say, their first mask got shattered in eden, and their new mask was made out of something more durable
Performers ! You will notice spirits with bird masks all are some kind of performers, such as the Rhythm spirits, Spinning Mentor and Dancing Performer from Dreams, and the Performance spirits which introduce rookie versions of bird masks along the director one 
I like that idea! ||* cutely snatches it * /j||
Even Saluting Protector whose season is mostly a gift to beta tester with not a lot of lore seems to dance on the ruins of the refinery.
all yours, friend!
as Alasdair said, the culture of masks could also be different between ancestors and skykids, so there could be symbolism for your character of choosing to model their mask off something that reflects their reaction to their trauma (example, if they felt unable to keep themself safe, they might use a stone turtle or armadillo mask, or if they felt victimized they might choose a predator)
I like the idea of skykids finding their own meaning in ancestor masks a lot 
One of mines is a kind of bard that took on a bird mask because they're a performer, while another has a bird mask because technically they are a bird.
Animal Symbolism amazes and amuses me 
It's funny because when I saw the Performance mask for the first time, it made me think about leafy seahorses 
Hmm, I don't think an armadillo or a turtle mask fits a bird-themed-Skykid
They like befriending creatures as a coping mechanism to keep themselves comfortable, not sure how a bird mask would tie into that 
The marks may mean somethjng. As for lightseekers, an early dev livestream said that the lightseekers correspond with the realm theyre in and their masks reflect that. Vela had theory on what they may represent
a social animal, then! bats are super social, and birds that travel in flocks could work too
Heh, just looked up the symbolism of triangles and..
I thought SLS’s mask may be a representation of the Vault
I think it was Salem that pointed out that with their headdress completing the shape, their mark looks like a memory cube
Like, half of a memory cube? I could kinda see where you are coming from
...let me get my tablet 
prosperity + ignorance
…perfect
Huh, I do see the resemblance
Idk if it is just me, but it looks like a crystal of some sort, but I definitely see where the memory cube thing is coming from
Granted memory cubes are shaped like tumbled points
These are double terminated points crystals and gemstones are soemtimes carved into
Gift to beta tester?
iirc, it was an iap?
Yes, before TS, they offered catch up packs; that being the Winter Musician pack & the Gratitude Furcape pack
Gratitude was to thank beta testers iirc, hence the name
Oooh, first time I hear of this. The beta cape, which is the Founder's cape with a white underside, was also a gift to the original beta testers
The true ending of Sky was the friends we made along the way.
99% of all introverted Skykids haven't achieved this ending /j
The Champion's mask one is spot on
random detail tidbit but i love the way if you zoom in while our capes are recharging the sparkly bits actually look like scales or feathers being lit from within/underneath
I know right ? Looks like butterfly scales, maybe the capes are fluffier than they look 
One of my favorite pics shows this really well
with the manta capes i now half-seriously half-jokingly headcanon manta wool gets lit up the same way when they do their big calls
Does anyone know how can I watch this old stream? I can't find it on twitch or youtube
Oh lord, that may be the lost livestream you’re referring to
0_0 there is another one about elder lore but it's in japanese
Here’s an English transcription of that livestream: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F0MQ8T8yc_5OrBXF5OtD4M2W0zg_n_HrtnUyq1C8d2E/edit?usp=sharing
wait so
mantas are woolly?
that’s so heckin adorable 
Wooly mantas are a lorechat in-joke that spawned from trying to explain why the Flight spirits’ clothing is so fluffy.
ik it spread to other channels and there’s been various artists who have drawn them
floofball
A living pillow
That's just floof manta but with wings
Omg a half manta, half fluffy, half bird, half reptile tail light creture
so pretty!! I love
sky-chimera (skimera): head and wings of a bird, floof of a manta, tail of a reptile
Okay actual thoughts.
The true ending of Sky isn't the ending. Think about it, does it really seem like an end?
You go to Eden, the one place you've been lead to this whole journey, you make it through, d i e, and finally move on to the afterlife.
Except you don't. You reincarnate, over and over and over. Stupid.
Well light is just energy, you can't destroy energy
It isn’t supposed to be an ending. Once you complete the first Eden, it says “the journey is just beginning”
my belief is that the cycle of rebirth isn't actually natural to skykids. i think if the whole Eden crisis wasn't a thing, skykids could live and grow and create whole societies just like the Ancestors did, only we keep dying before we can get there. and i think without Megabird's intervention we would petrify in Eden until someone came along and released us like we do for the ancestors, and then we'd ascend like they do. i think the cycle as we experience it is to some extent artificial, because as far as Megabird is concerned we still have more work to do
Now hold up, I got more to say.
What if the real ending of Sky is just..this? Like, all of us Sky Kids walking around in a peaceful world? No more wars or things to worry about, it's just us.
Honestly that's a pretty good ending in my opinion.
I wouldn't call it stupid. Sky is big about cycles, especially the light cycle wherein light constantly flows throughout the world, creatures are reincarnated– yea you got it
I believe the animals can't reincarnate, at least, I don't think they can.
You can see rivers of birds flowing through orbit, but whether they come out the other side is unclear tbf
Isn't there like a section of the "afterlife" that's just stone statues of animals? What if when animals die in sky they just turn to stone and that's it?
reborn skykids maintain the same appearance as they did when they died, we keep all our progress when reborn, so I don't believe skykids have been reset and have to start all over. if anything, their ascension and rebirth frees them from the permanancy of death in Eden, preventing them from being able to do more.
likewise, I think skykids ascend other skykids – giving their winged light to their petrified kin in stormlock, allowing them to ascend. when you die and petrify, another skykid likely had to sacrifice themself, give up their own winged light, to ascend you
Apples
oh i don't think we start over as a fresh slate or anything - i'm currently undecided on whether we retain the same body post-eden or whether we get a new shell but our spirit remembers what we used to look like and creates the same appearance out of light. regardless, i'm just fond of the idea that if eden wasn't a thing we could grow up and be the next generation of ancestors
A children’s paradise
maybe when animals die their forms turn to stone and their light returns to megabird/the stars/the universe?
HECK YEAH! ALL THE ADULTS ARE DEAD!
A childocracy
Hides behind child
hides behind forest mama
you're probably referring to this piece of concept art by Tom Zhao. see on the left, light creatures who die an unnatural death are said to leave behind bones made of charcoal. now whether that is still true in Live is up for debate, but we do see bones in Forest boneyard, Wasteland graveyard, and Vault fifth floor.
according to this concept art, light creatures are supposed to ascend and be reborn too. in fact, you can see some during ascension post-stormlock – mantas, jellyfish, even a whale. there's also that river of birds Salem mentioned
oh.
I'm by photography club
I believe the creatures' cycle of rebirth seen in that concept is still canon. I mean, we do see creatures ascending with us and we also see the bones of creatures who are implied to have had an unnatural death
As for ancestors, I have doubts about them being Light beings like Skykids, to me it seems like Skids (and Elders before the darkstone thing) might actually be pure Light creatures while ancestors aren't exactly, and that's why ancestors can't exactly be fully reborn
well ancestors certainly have light given that when they die, they manifest as spirits. as for their living bodies' light-to-material ratio is debatable as well as whatever material their living bodies were made out of. did they have biological flesh like irl humans? were they more like skykids akin to Vela's lanternfolk headcanon? don't know and idk if we'll ever know for sure since all the ancestors are dead.
though unlike most light creatures, they did have bodies that could be buried given the gravestones we see in the beginning of the realms and in the Vault by Praying Acolyte. so they died and left behind material bodies, presumably materializing as spirits of pure light that could ascend
Happy Spectember Lorechat!
it's always midnight somewhere
Hum I wasn’t supposed to send that forget I sent it
What is spectember
do you remember? the 21st night of September?
I think thats the stream that has the sourceless quote, looking back in old discussions theres multiple ppl talking abt the king not being around anymore, i think thats the stream, but twitch doesnt archive
It sounds like the english and japanese streams cover similar things, but info abt the eden elder/king not being around really or around the same way current elders are weren’t mentioned in the latter
Love was changing the mind of pretenders.
Sky theory:
Chibi's are slowly becoming the new moff
elaborate? wdym?
to be honest, after your reasoning, I felt bad
my children's world Sky is destroyed 
So I've noticed the norm with some SkyKids is to call Moths "cute" or "precious", but I've been seeing a lot of chibi's running around the realms recently.
Like, an unhealthy amount of chibi.
Maybe the norm is shifting a bit.
there's always been an ungodly amount of chibis running around. most of them are cute. most of them are menaces
And there's an unsurprising amount of overlap
The cutest ones tend to be the most dangerous
I can testify, I met a cute chibi about a month ago, they friended me, did the “awww” emote and then immediately proceeded to drag me into Eden, all the way past the point of no return

I felt like a sacrifice 
second word is censored
Sorry I just found it kinda funny
C@tboy is also blocked last time I checked
LITERAL NINETEEN EIGHTY FOUR
catperson isn’t blocked #nyanbinarywin
C@tboy this, c@tboy that, how's about you CATegorize this evidence because BOY howdy we haven't even scratched the surface of the lore Bible yet
had a thought while doing Vault daily tasks – what if light creatures could be corrupted by purple light like they can from darkness? whether intentional or not (I'm leaning intentional) light creatures' forms could be warped by purple light to form the cosmic creatures we see in the Vault now
Variant I thought about following the convo ingame: what if cosmic mantas are what you get when you try to revive a dead manta with some lights ?
After all, we do get to help a tiny cosmic manta rise from some bones near the Shushing spirit...
Maybe it got revived here because of the abundance of purple light/magic/elder power in the Vault ?
if we're going by the old concept of how rebirth works, perhaps the ancestors were trying to make rebirth controlled by themselves (or perhaps the eden diamond got in the way of rebirth pre-explosion). so they experimented on these mantas, however only succeeded in creating ghosts
I know sometimes they're referred to as "spirit mantas" – though we know what a spirit manta likely looks like, the one that appears during Abyss. it has more a blue hue ancestor spirits have
this spirit manta
maybe they were trying to help creatures ascend who had died unnaturally and left remains per the earlier conversation?
maybe thats a natural manta spirit, whereas the ones in vault were manmade
We revived the manta with Mega Bird power not with artificial bleu light
maybe, to tie in Catlem's manta corpse hc, the ancestors realized it was a hazard to let drained creatures' remains stick around, and they hoped that by ascending or reviving the creatures manually they'd be able to control it?
The spirit mantas in Vault mostly fly around in circles, I wonder if, perhaps, they were used by the Vault Scholars to float around the realm and grab things such as memory cubes from shelves.
but why wouldn't light creatures, if they leave corpses under whatever circumstances, not manifest their spirits like ancestors do and ascend Eden in that state? while, yea, the cosmic manta by SLS does appear from bones, we sorta "call" it after lighting candles around it. we summon it, so perhaps it got stuck in some sort of limbo (likewise we free the Memory Whisperer spirit by summoning that cosmic manta). and if these cosmic forms were meant for ascension, why are they still in the Vault?
failed attempts, maybe? they tried to ascend them but it didn't work so they found a use for them? idk really, i'm just spitballing
hello lore chat
Okay so I’ve seen theories on what the 6 colors of light mean
Red is concealment
Orange is fire
Green is wind
Blue and cyan are ice and water (I think)
Purple is mind
Did I miss anything?
I know this is one of the few most beaten-down topics here 
Maybe cosmic mantas depend on the Vault to exist ?
close but not quite.
these are a compilation of the hints you get to find these lights from Enchantment. also purple might also be mind – I didn't makethis chart.
Okay thank you 
Also ow my eyes 
maybe because they didn't die naturally their spirits are still tethered to their physical form in some way, so while they've been "summoned" they can't fully ascend
(summoned isn't the right word but i can't find the one i'm looking for)
They’ve moved on partway basically?
yeah! they're no longer physical but they also can't leave
And then the
Season of Prophecy built on this with the symbols.
blue light, artificial and natural, is associated with water. it grants the user the ability to control water to some degree. while spirits are also blue, it's moreso happenstance. their spiritual forms are blue but not associated with blue light.
it's debatable where that spirit manta came from. it first appears by meditating in front of whale tail statue in the first cave, wherein it dematerializes to grant us the diving ability. personally I doubt that spirit manta was sent by Megabird Themself.
I've always regarded it as a sort of guardian of the Treasure Reef or a physical manifestation of the sea. by meditating in front of the whale tail statues, we connect with it in some way. there are three of those same statues in Sanctuary Islands, which is a light creature haven.
I've also been thinking of Vela's headcanon that season guides were the first to die and buried of their group, thus bound to help whoever else died and is buried there to move onto the afterlife. given the Treasure Reef facility is where mantas were experimented on and presumably killed for power diamonds, what if that spirit manta was the first light creature to die there thus tasks us to help it shepherd its fellow light creatures to the afterlife, to ascension? see, the the trapped mantas we free in Abyss quest 3.
lengthy response, that comment got me musing
it used to be transparent but it got messed up when it was downloaded on iOS
Ah gotcha
I’m kinda surprised the water didn’t make a cyclone around us like some anime thing in that
first
Abyss cutscene.
too hard to animate /j
Animal mask symbolism again hi—
Based on popular rabbit symbolism like sensitivity, good luck, and self-improvement
and
Peeking postman’s ts hints of working past their stage fright
I’d like to imagine rabbit masks symbolize uncommon performers who rarely do shows for the public
or even intermediate performers, ones who haven’t made it to the big stage yet but are ready to
It’s why peeking postman appears to be a type of performer like much of the dreams spirits but never performs in any memories
So in order to see Peeking postman to perform...we kidnap Postman and put him on stage!
@keen shore Had a theory they were a racer ! I forgot which TS hint it was but there was also Ash saying their costume was inspired by horse riders too !
Manta racer postman 
I would like to argue, krill racer postman
I like the way you think.
I THINK THIS WAS ACTUALLY CONFIRMED AND IT WAS SLINK WHO STARTED IT let me find it
#lore-discussion-spoilers message check reacts!
Confirmed they retired after water prophet beat them ✋😔
Maybe they still rode Mantas to deliver letters outside of the village
I think postman did the sliding race, not on a manta, but on their mail delivery sled
YES
which also raises a valid idea. backflip champion rabbit mask
YESSSSS
going to turn it into an image later but
assembly kids: exist
lorechat: your adoption papers. hand em over
Bunny in lorechat 🥺
🥺
wooly manta irl
Before backflip puts all the hair gel in their hair to make it look like that it covers their face like this
"To increase my risk ratings!"
-Backflipping Champion
Aaaany thoughts on what that light could've been
It's probably not that deep, possibly just a unique way to showcase the season's logo, buuut
Love :)
Case closed
Maybe the season emblem symbolizes the bonds between the seasonal spirits ?
I like to think this is raw light that has yet to be refined, like the lightseeker lights.
The ark in Sky has a bit of history (some of which I am not able to recall off the top of my head, sadly).
The white light might represent the Light (though that is a headcanon).
Seeing it is the guide and the ark can represent a vessel, coupled with boats in Sky represent the journey. I would hypothesize on the light being the spirit's own energy.
(I saw Vela's answer after typing this, and can see how that can also be a likely case, especially with considering sky heart trades are consistently shown to have white light).
White light contains all the colors. Perhaps the white orb might produced from all the colored lights combined, so having all their powers?
ooh true.
Good point.
With white light containing all of the colours, it may represent Unity and Harmony.
Yeah that's what I initially thought actually, all colors would create white, but having all this power contained in one light, I'm not sure what it may imply exactly?
They nerfed Enchantment guide too OP
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I don’t think it has like actual powers, it just represents all their friends combined and the season as a whole :} since each of them have a light
enchantment guide went on creative mode
(Forgot Skybot prefers its gif hand fed)
this alchemy symbol that I feel like Enchantment’s was likely inspired from as one thing represents life, so yeah
Headcanoning that it’s like the light and soul bits from each member of the crew (based on the other headcanon about them absorbing the lights and it kinda blending with their souls) and like. Blended or something to represent them all idk
ooo, I like the idea of the distinction between artificial and natural coloured light!
hair gel industry in sky is booming
WHEEZES
I kinda had a similar idea, but it's passed down, at least Enchantment's
see you once you have a more charged device!
Sky version of ‘ship in a bottle’
It backfired though and now ark is broken 😔
OHHHH I THINK I GET IT like it allows them to shape the magic itself but not to use it
hello hello~ i’m not usually interested in lore tbh, but it’s 11pm and i’m over here wondering why we lose light in the rain
Likely darkness infused in the raindrops from the Storm
to use paint as a metaphor: the white/grey magic is the binder, but the colored magic is the pigment?
white/grey is the base form, but the color is what gives it its properties
yeah I sorta see it that way too! the way that wax turns blue in water is why I think so
Polluted rain/acid rain
I believe it’s mentioned somewhere in sky shops poems actually—
I would like to add to this question, rain hurts us, but clouds recharges us?
Can ya.. send it or smth I would like to see
I was of the opinion that the rain drains light because they were forcefully brought by the forest elder using the water element
And in the trials the water there instantly extinguishes your light once it reaches your chest where you store the red candle (ping off)
Im not clear as to why clouds recharge us
A previous theory I had was that the clouds were infused with the fire element due to its constant burning (see prophecy trial in that little cave segment before the door which showcases the fire element)
What do you think?
Now that I think about it maybe thats the reason hidden forest is just covered with clouds? Fire element originated there (specifically boneyard where we also see the orange light) the smoke from its constant burning sorta made the clouds bigger and infused with light or smth like that
on the acid rain thing, i remember in one of the "ask the devs" youtube videos one of them made a comment along the lines of Forest being a great place to live if you don't mind the acid rain
Omg colored lights wear binders? #trans
https://youtu.be/3R2lGPFWCHY?t=48
at 0:48 Stephanie says "Acid rain is probably okay for my hair" when talking about living in Forest
wonder if it's actually acid rain or really analogous to acid rain, like how darkstone is analogous to fossil fuels
fair, it wasn't a super serious comment but i figured it was worth noting
well it is really common for people to assume acid rain given that it exists irl and Sky makes a lot of environmentalist themes, I just don't think it's necessarily acid rain in-universe.
very true, the phrase "acid rain" could also just be shorthand for "rain that hurts you"
Lore discussion challenge:
Try not to use "light" or "magic" as your excuse for explaining the science of this universe.
mate, yknow Sky has strong fantasy elements utilizing a light-based magic system, yea?
Yep, that's why it's called a 🌟 challenge 🌟
||Shard lore||
speaking of the acid rain, would that be why swimming is dangerous? I saw swimming as partially a ‘fire needs oxygen and this gradually extinguishes it’
so is all water polluted in that case? may be overthinking I’m running on hype
Isn't the SkyKids just living hollow lanterns?
i finished lore for my oc 
Is it less than a page long?
give me a minute
oh no
Just popping in to add another thing with my lanternfolk idea: the pulsing of their inner lights tend to synchronize when vulnerable with someone they trust.
Imagine that happening for an ancestor comforting their friend…
the entire thing is 3238 characters over the discord limit, so…no?
holy honk, i didnt even know this particular story was that long
iydll i genuinely love that your writing gets exponentially longer every time you finish something
pls 😭 theyre only gonna get longer
that's good! means you're stretching your writing muscles
ill share another time—bro wants to play a game 
I have such a love for mantas that I have an endless amount of ideas about their behavior if anyones interested in those—
Yes please
||Also desperate for some manta angst||
I think that mantas are attracted by baby manta noises the same way you will get a cat looking everywhere when playing kitten sounds
pspsps at a manta
skid: uses baby manta call
manta: my child-
adoption speedrun
some skid did that ages ago and that's why all skykids get mantanapped
Bold of you all to assume the mantas needed a reason to adopt us
i like 2 think that sometimes mantas will see a skykid w like one of the manta cape n just swoop in like oh my god what is this small lost manta doing out here n go full adopt mode
Manta lore? 👀
Oh goodness I got disarrayed but yes mantas ;-; I love them more than anything in the world
I think they’re very sniffy creatures
They interact and discover the world through smell
A new person? They’ll sniff to see if theyre familiar and can tell if someone’s from the realm the manta lives in or not.
I imagine they’re friendlier to familiar scents from people who live around them
mantas with no depth perception snoot booping skids by accident while trying to sniff them
Mantas are also very bright. They are amazing at learning tricks and easy to tame once they approach willingly
Mantas curiosity allows them to observe enough about other creatures to understand them and any habits they may have
It lets them fly seamlessly in large flocks of other mantas or birds without bumping into each other or any obstacles along the way
They’re able to interact with their owners in various ways and even learn their schedule about feeding times, cleaning, the signs of a BATH coming—
From wasteland I can picture mantas never seeing a direct line of light (krills light) besides sun rays so our poor guide manta didn’t realize this interesting new dark dragon meant harm
It was trying to circle and woo to show us the cool new friend it will make but fell to its own nature
the signs of the fierce B a th
I also picture certain behavior between mantas themselves!
A gentle nudge is for attention. Either for love from a partner or confusion about another mantas signals
A bump, slightly harder, is a ‘get out of my way’ or something similar to a bunny thumping out of sass
They’ll twirl and show off their pretty golden markings to potential mates to try and get them to look at the gleam of their feathers
Although they have no dance like exotic birds, mantas like to do elaborate flight paths to show off to each other
It’s also why they’re great for races. They can do a multitude of flips, barrel rolls, loops, etc.
Tail wacks aren’t common but are usually a big sign of aggression or a reactive manta
Certain calls can also signal a hostile warning, especially if it’s more huffy than clear
Personally, I don’t think mantas land. I think they sleep atop of clouds, just light enough to float on the surface
I bet they’re similar to sharks where they don’t stop moving, even in sleep
Mantas when you try to take a picture of them:
It’s like all those nature photographers who get creatures right on top of them! Mantas would love to see what you’re doing and often interrupt photos, painters, etc.
especially chime smiths-
Many noises could attract these guys
How would they interact with the tiny children of light that free them from their cages?
Oooh from anywhere (realm or season area) specifically or just in general?
Anywhere!
but i also have this, extremely tiny skid that lives in the forest and basically uses the baby manta call
Mantas that flew into places they could typically leave easily (abyss, forest temple, valley races) would definitely be more confused than thankful
They wouldn’t understand someone purposefully freed them because they never realized they got trapped to begin with
They’d be hesitant to leave, especially now that things look different but it’s also for the best they finally can separate from the mantas they were trapped with (I can elaborate more on these guys depending on the area-)
As for mantas in forest, prairie and other areas
The ones in darkness understand their predicament and will dote and fawn over their new best friend. The skid will get manta licks and sniffs as close as possible, they’ll follow the skid around after reuniting with some other friends and grabbing a snack. The skid will get frequent visits from their manta Friend and it would be more than happy to be a new tamed pet
In prairie and areas they show up on their own from bell or chime calls, they’re interested in the noise and very curious about who or what the skids are and why they aren’t the usual ones ringing the call. They don’t mind, but they must know everything about them now
Endless sniffs and nudges to investigate
That is just
very cute and im adopting this idea now
In an area with mantas, you'll never be lonely
Absolutely 
I love mantas
though cause I mentioned my skid-
Her name is Sun, and i kinda brought up before when i was here last that the ancestors would've probably tried to use the sky kids when they first began to fall
and i thought of what if they tried to create a sky kid?
the first result was Sun, named due to the fact shes like the sun itself because shes so bright, but she was created by another sky kid, my friends character Illumin
the result of that was basically him adopting this tiny, bright child
(her size is basically the chibi mask + tiny spell, shes that small)
Do you guys think that wooly manta lore is (almost) the same as manta lore? 
lorechat sneepy? may i dump the last bit of lore for my oc?
You want me to give you wooly manta behavior??? 👀👀
Also yes I’d love to here oc stuff
Please do
YESSSS
WOOLY MANTA MY BELOVED ||I would also like to see elder birb lore, need it for my OC||
(PART 4)
She looked away. Kita’s eyes landed on a ghostly figure. The one who clapped when she had woken up. They were now attending to a fire. Warm flames flickered and sparked, rose and fell. Drawn to it, Kita approached the fire and the spirit. The spirit did not seem to recognize her prescience. They were busy tending to the flames. Kita noticed something among the fire; little tiny spheres that were covered with a thin layer of wrapping. Kita sensed something within it.
One of the spheres was soon under her eyes. Kita looked up. The spirit was looking intently at her, offering her one of the snacks. Kita accepted their offer and took her candle out. The sphere and the candle connected, and the encasing was burned away, revealing many particles of light. Kita was esctatic. What a delicious meal!
The spirit clapped their hands again, happy that Kita was satisfied. With new rigor, they turned to the fire once more. They seemed intent on making even more of the spheres of light. Kita giggled, and left the spirit to confront Elliott again.
But he was gone without a trace. Kita snorted. Good riddance. She didn’t ever want to see Elliott again. He didn’t deserve her presence. He didn’t deserve anyones presence. He didn’t deserve anyone.
Kita never left the spirit’s side. Instead, they took her under their wing. They taught her how to use a bonfire, taught her how to cook. Kita loved every day with them. She would welcome travelers and lost skykids into their home, just how the spirit did for her long ago.
the rest of the lore is near the replied message
I've never known where to start for making skykid ocs, I just have npcs 🧍♀️
Lmao my OC was based on multiple songs
i have written a narrative of what happened to Eden! Complete with minor OCs to fill in gaps!
Anyone wanna read?
its pretty late here, so ill turn in for the night. bye bye lorechat 
pt 1
WARNING
THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS CONTAIN REFERENCES TO PEOPLE, PLACES, OR THINGS THAT ARE CONSIDERED HIGHLY DANGEROUS. LET IT BE KNOWN THAT SHOULD THIS INFORMATION BE USED IN NEFARIOUS WAYS, ALL INVOLVED WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE THE PEOPLE AND THE ELDERS.
SHOULD THIS BE THE CASE, THOSE WHO ARE CHARGED FACE ||PUBLIC EXECUTION||.
ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO CONTINUE?
Yes / No
Wooly manta—
Other mantas are very curious about the wooly manta since they’ve never seen a fluffy manta like that.
None ever get aggressive about it since they mostly like to nudge and sniff them befriend
Wooly manta has no problems with mantas since it doesn’t realize it’s fluffy
Its very important no one lets wooly mantas fluffy self get matted because it will cause pain which causes behavioral problems like lashing out or nipping when pet and the mattes get pulled
They like brushing, it feels nice, so it won’t be an issue trying to keep tangled out unless they get into bristles
It’s best wooly manta is kept to a minimum of fluff unless it’s braided or in a style that can protect it from the wool getting pulled or put in pain
sobbing at these two messages after each other
pt 2
Eden was once the grand capital of the Kingdom. After uniting the land, the Goddess of the Stars, Megabird, appointed six influential people to serve as the realm’s respective Elder. She then appointed a man named Raecir to serve as the Kingdom’s first Sovereign King, to serve and protect the Kingdom with his fellow Elders. His first order was for a magnificent city to be built to honor the Goddess and the people.
And so, Eden was constructed on the tallest mountain, Elysium. For centuries, it was the center of industrial and technological advancement and was considered a beacon of inspiration that could be seen from all over the Kingdom.
But this glorious Golden Age did not last. Darkness came and poisoned the heart of Raecir’s descendant, Resh.
Wooly manta is top secret and highly valued information
You are at the Publics discretion—
forbidden knowledge
I shared too many forbidden secrets of wooly manta—
pt 3. warning: gets dark but not too graphic
He became cruel-hearted. He punished the guilty with no mercy, and death became a better alternative. The taxes became unbearing and the introduction of conscription was widely ill-received.
Resh sought after the forbidden Dark Alchemy hidden deep within the Vault of Knowledge, much to Elder Lamed’s unawareness. Using this cursed knowledge, he created the Dark Dragons to spread the seeds of Darkness and further poison the land.
The Dark Dragons attacked a civilian transport, a family pleasure barge en route to the Sanctuary Islands. Out of the entire crew and the family who owned it, there was only one survivor.
Many saw this as evidence of Resh's illegitimacy to the throne. A king who seeks to kill his own people for non-existent crimes is unfit to rule.
pt 4
This marks the beginning of the long and harsh Civil War.
The military was essentially split into two. Those who rallied under the Elders' command and those still loyal to the throne, mainly the Royal Elysium Guard, later known as the Dark Riders. Throughout the war, the two sides quarreled within the Golden Plains. Both sides reported casualties in the hundred-thousands, not counting civilian lives.
Queen Narxi, beloved by the people for her beauty and kind heart, saw the path her husband was taking. Fearing the worst, she took their newborn son, Alef, and fled to the protection of her older sister, Elder Adrah of the Valley of Triumph.
Throughout the War, the two sisters, as well as the other Elders, taught and prepared the young Prince to retake the throne and undo what his father had done
pt 5
During the War, the Tyrant feared that the Elders were coming to kill him. So he created the beginning of a powerful Dark Diamond designed to steal the light within. To power it, he stole the souls and light of the citizens trapped within Eden’s walls. The world would remain ignorant of such loss of life until the end of the War.
Three months before the end of the War, the Queen had returned to Megabird’s wings, losing the battle against sickness. That night, Dark Riders snuck into the Temple and took the Prince away.
The year prior, Elder Adrah had given her life protecting the young Prince from an assassin, leaving her two children, Sah and Mekh, to take up the mantle. The two were a formidable team, having been personally and ruthlessly trained under Elder Tsadi and Elder Teth. They did not coddle the Twins. Sahmekh were fiercely protective of the little Prince and would gladly lay their lives for him.
pt 6
When it was known he was missing, the Twin Elders were furious.
The Elders Tsadi, Teth, and Sahmekh gathered their forces and prepared for a siege unlike the world has ever seen. The Siege of Eden was the largest military operation in history, with the sole purpose of killing the Tyrant and freeing Eden once and for all.
What they were met with was unlike what anyone had expected. What was once the famed City of the Stars was reduced to ash and carnage. Dark Dragons patrolled the skies. Rocks rained from the heavens. Light-stealing crystals festered and grew.What’s worse was what had happened to the citizens.
Gone was the individuality and brightness that resonated within each one, leaving them something akin to corrupted zombies. No longer could they think for themselves, blindly following any orders the Dark Riders and the Tyrant issued.
are people actually reading this?
yes
ok good
hai
pt 8
The ensuing battle was long and brutal, with casualties numbering in the thousands. The Condemned tore through the force, despite being severely outnumbered.
A small task force was dispatched to rescue the Prince while the Condemned were distracted. This ended up being in vain.
The light of the Prince was all that the Dark Diamond needed to be complete. By the time the task force arrived, it was already too late, the ritual was complete.
In a surge of blinding light, the Dark Diamond incinerated the Tyrant and transformed the 63 members of the task force, as well as the Condemned, into contorted statues.
The Dark Dragons went into a killing frenzy, killing anything that moved, including their own Riders
pt 9
The Survivors fled to escape the initial shock wave, not without sacrifices.
Elder Lamed and her Archivists sealed all pathways to Elysium, the most notable being the “Gateway of Eden.”
Within the barriers, the remaining Dark Alchemy condensed and formed into a perpetual storm known as “the Eye of Eden.”
All are warned to never attempt to break the barrier keeping the Storm at bay.
Doing so could result in the total destruction of the world as we know it.
thoughts?
i did a carp ton of world building prior to writing this
Question!
What of the sky kids that travel en masse to be rebirthed?
i haven’t quite gotten there yet
this is a type of document you'd find deep within the Vault's Catacombs. Hidden away from prying eyes
oo
Shortly after the end of the Civil War, a Prophet by the name of Tayifu received a vision from Megabird.
Her Grace showed him Her plan to save the lost souls scattered across the kingdom and burn away the Darkness. He saw the stars that surrounded the Goddess move towards the atmosphere in a beautiful display of light.
Before they reached the ground, however, the vision ended.
Three days later, the first Child of the Light was seen.
Not many really know what to think of the Children of the Light (Skykid for short) as little is known about them and their history and how they came to be. The list below is what is known about them.
{insert various HCs)
i rly like this format of official documentation
Thank you!
i have a whole server for my ocs that's formatted like a quasi-police database so i definitely feel the vibe
I wanted to try something different
So we have this!
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Capes
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What can harm them
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Symbolic Gestures
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life partners
the server starts with a message like
```> start``````ini
Initializing...
Retrieving last session...
Session not found. Beginning new session...
Function complete.``````ini
load database [HollowCity.db]``````ini
Accessing...
Function complete.
Running script [run_on_startup.exe]
Function complete. Hit ENTER to proceed.``````> [ENTER]```
i wonder how the Vault formats their archives and databases
- Language
Their primary language is very hard to understand at first because it mainly focuses on non-verbal cues and body language.
They do have some verbal aspects.
One is considered a ‘’call’’; kinda a “screaming to be heard” type deal.
The other one is considered a ‘’deep call’’ and it’s a “you have to experience it to understand it” situation.
Older Skykids can better communicate with others by mimicking the other languages. and they mimic them so well, they may as well be fluent
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Symbolic Gestures
Candles and their colors play a big role in symbolic gestures.
If they are presenting a red candle for the first time, they want to know you.If they are presenting a white candle, they want to pursue a deeper relationship, which can mean multiple things (i.e. friends, family, etc) To be offered a black candle is a major insult. Basically what you’re saying is that you “wish the Darkness to consume their flame and soul, never to return to the Stars.” Harsh.
A red ribbon necklace is sort of like the Children of the Light’s version of a proposal/wedding ring. The couple will customize and adorn the ribbon with special baubles and embroidery to be presented to their partner during the official ceremony. See "Life Partners" for more information
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- Capes
What’s even more sacred than their masks are their capes.
They are the sole reason they can touch the sky, thus giving them their nickname “Skykids”.
No one is absolutely certain what the diamonds that run down their spines signify, but the main theory we have is that it's an age indicator
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- Guardianship
Veterans can become guardians to a Moth at any given time.
Guardians are essentially the parental roles of the Children of the Light
In the rare case that a Skykid distance themselves from their kind (which can severely impact mental and social health) they will be emotionally starved and basically latch on to anyone who shows them kindness, like an Elder.
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- Ages
Like Spirits and Elders, the Skykids measure their age in years as well as how much experience they have.
Newborns
less than a year old (0-1 stars).
They are raised by Newborn Caretakers and anyone else that pitches in.
They are incredibly fragile. Their skin has not yet hardened to withstand the fickle nature of the winds. Since their skin is so thin, they need constant warmth to survive, preferably skin-to-skin contact.
Newborns are, well, newborns. They cannot fend for themselves. They depend on their Caretakers to protect and care for them as needed.
Fledglings
about one to two years old (1-2 stars).
At this age, they start to walk, run, communicate, etc.
They also have been given their first cloak and are learning to at least glide in the Isle of Dawn or the Daylight Prairie.
Moths
are two to five years old (2-5 stars).
This is the age where they leave their caretakers in hopes to find their “guardian”.
Adolescents
are five to ten years old (5-10 stars).
By this time, they would have seen all the Kingdom has to offer.
But they are incredibly independent and no longer need a guardian.
On the eve of their tenth birthday, they undergo their ‘’coming of age” trial.
Veterans
Ten years and older (10 stars and up)
the most mature, or the “adults” of Skykids.
The way you can tell is that there is something off about them… as if part of their childishness was taken away.
Another way is their appearance: they have cosmetics that mimic the Spirits as well as the Ancestors and the Elders.
They often also have a Moth clinging to them.
They can not physically age further.
(srry about the text wall. There’s quite a bit)
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- Life Partners
To have a life partner is basically vowing to live their life and work together until Megabird calls them home.
This can be between best friends, lovers, siblings, and sometimes even between a Guardian and their Moth.
There are very few instances where the vow can be broken
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(can i do some Fancy Formatting for this and dm it to you just for fun)
- What can harm them
Krills are incredibly dangerous. The Skykids are prime targets for the light-hunting monsters. If they get caught in their jaws, they’re done.
The Dark Crabs fall under this category as well though ultimately they do little damage, yet the younger the Skykid, the more susceptible they are to actually get seriously hurt by them.
The rain in the Hidden Forest can severely harm them if they stay out for too long
The same goes for the polluted waters
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- Masks
Their masks are near-sacred to them.
It defines who they are, where they have been, and what they have seen.
To see a Skykid without a mask is an incredible sign of trust. So be honored.
DISCLAIMER: This is largely incomplete. Any additional information has either not been discovered, not been recorded as per request, or has been redacted by order of the Elders.
BY ORDER OF THE ELDERS
NO ONE MAY COPY AND DISTRIBUTE THIS INFORMATION WITHOUT PROPER DOCUMENTATION AS IT IS CONSIDERED PIRACY AND A FEDERAL OFFENSE.
FAILURE TO COMPLY CAN RESULT IN AT LEAST FIVE YEARS IN CONFINEMENT.
an added touch for that official document feel
sorry to interrupt, anybody happen to have any lore specifically about
?
yes
I just want you to know, the sky kids would probably not understand what that means, and would absolutely take the document to share around, or at least i know Sun would
YO THIS IS SO COOL
its for the Spirits not the Skykids
I know, just saying
I'm sure Hylda appreciates the effort, as stated in the Guardianship, a Skykid distancing themselves from their kind can severely impact their mental health
And whike Hylda does sometimes distance themselves from their kind, they also appreciate a little bit of warmth (specifically from other light creatures)
they're gay
They're a furry /j
big
its more of what happened to my oc Futihoxli
y'all wanna hear her story?
I always liked to think that all sky people - spirit and kid - had no gender 🥲
Hold on, I swore I saw a meme here about that
well, that is canon – nobody in Sky has a gender, dev confirmed – but the Yeti and Peeking Postman are heavily implied to be in some sort of relationship and since nonbinary people make the relationship gay no matter what, they're gay
love wins
From Slink! (OH HI SLINK)
Aah, is it like that? I've been wondering what to call a relationship involving non-binary people 😂
Meet Futihoxli
Her Guardian abandoned her in te Golden Wasteland, leaving her sorely unprepared in the face of danger resulting in some nasty PTSD episodes
Her cape was ripped beyond repair whilst in Eden and is bound to the ground as a result. She misses the feeling of the wind surrounding her from all sides.
Considered a “Master of Songs” due to her proficiency with instruments.
She’s shy and doesn’t often willingly interact with her people. This often confuses the other Skykids. The most she does is guide groups through the Golden Wasteland with Navarre doing most of the talking, speaking up every once in a while to explain something.
She met her life partner, Navarre when she was caught by a Krill. Nav saw and promptly swooped in to rescue her.
At first, she wanted nothing to do with Nav, having been solo since her abandonment. But the more she hung out with Nav, the more she warmed up to him, eventually accepting him as her life partner
ngl i love that official documentation thing, it's a very cool idea
awww
i want to give all of them a hug
also them being called Guardians is killing my crossover brain sorry
really that's up to the individual. in my experience, calling said relationship "gay" is both a joke and also serious depending on the person. there are also different terms to refer to nblnb, such as enbian or diamoric
If you're attracted to me you're gay
if you're attracted to me stop
Aromatic Aromantic moment, I like it 🤝
I do aspire to be aromatic as well as aromantic
No room for crushes in my brain only room for lore
no crushes only the critically acclaimed mmorpg final fantasy xiv with a-(I am krilled)
with a side of fries
No thyme for romance
No room for crushes, only the sad lonely void my 3 and 1/2 braincells inhabit
no room for crushes, just fic and gender
mood
my gender is lore -Lumi, probably
I @hushed steeple, Mother of 14 Sky OCs, must now hibernate
thats a lot of skids
I have 70
that's a lot of skids
also what's the context behind wooly mantas. what if that's what young mantas look like
wooly manta spawned when lorechat was musing where the Flight spirits got their fluffy clothing from
*not to mention every other fluffy cosmetics
Head canon: Yeti is not actually a Yeti and is in fact an ordinary person who wears a thick outfit made from the wool of wooly mantas
Kidding aside, what do you guys think of the theory that Yeti was actually blue when they were alive? In the animation trailer, it was shown (as a concept) that Ancestors had bluish hair. Would you guys say that Yeti had that kind of hair or did they have white hair instead?
ancestors in the animation had white hair too, it was lighting and shading that makes it appear blue. you'll notice that in game where skykids' hair will take on an undertone depending on the realm they're in – green in Wasteland, orange during sunsets or in Valley
do u think ancestors dyed their hair? there are a couple instances i think but the only one i can remember rn is kizuna ai and that was a collab
Juggler's golden streak?
Theory that jugglers hair streak is from dipping it in rhythms coffee
The stain has yet to come out
Maybe ancestors did something similar to scolding student?
Braiding colored ribbons into their hair
Or the flight crew
Colored hair ties and accessories like hats and feathers
It seems colorful accessories were much more common than hair colors
that seems to make sense, yeah
concept: skyworld has rabbit sized land dwelling sea slugs
(ping off) heartbeat sounds ingame 
Wait did i... Did I turn off the ping??? I didnt notice if I did TvT
unrelated to my last concept: the valley elders wear gloves because they are secretly skykids and therefore have claws and i refuse to change my stance on this <3
if your skid gets estinguished the elder shield mask also goes out. does that mean the mask is powered by our light? (pic above is the mask turning white before going out i just think its cool)
But it only gets relit if you go do the cutscene of the respective elder sooo I doubt it
noo when my skid is relit it still glows
the mask wont break if my skid only gets estinguished and doesnt lose a wing
Ahhh gotcha
Then Ig it sorta is, partly? 🤔
yeah probably partly 
does it contain our light like power diamonds? does it act as a light powered winged light to get destroyed before our real winged light does
so interesting
Its probably smth like a material that can conduct light
The whole protects our winged light part most likely comes from the power of the elders
aah yes true
OC lore dump
Hylda's social skills with Skykids are slim to none. They mostly see other Skykids as sort of a competition, especially the ones that are in a group. But if Hylda doesn't see this in some Skykids and said Skykids want to know Hylda, maybe they'll socialize for a bit.
I have a theory about sky's lore!
It's that you all...
Need some sleep
& chocolate milk, perhaps
But mostly sleep
what if the diamond light thing on the skykids' foreheads is like, a representation of a third eye
Hold on I just remembered skids' forehead diamond
...isn't it mostly in the default moth mask and absent from the majority of spirit masks even when used by skids? Or am I remembering wrong
yeah it's in the moth and chibi ones, meanwhile for the others most dont but there are a couple that do, or have something similar (like scarecrow farmer has it painted) the normal spirit ones with the helmet things also have it but it's part of the helm
which is interesting as to why they dont and why they do
wdym theory, tis canon 
So if crabs are corrupted jellyfish, what would happen if a ||king jelly|| got corrupted?
Shard crabs?
Crab Whisperer is born probably giant shard crabs
i just envisioned a giant crab 
E l d e r c r a b
Maybe like it's a loz thing, where the small crabs look like rocks, the large crabs look like boulders
elder crabs apart of the eden mountain
You're cool, I like being pinged about my theories !
And yes ! It's partially inspired by that 
Actually if corrupted jellies are indeed crabs
Shard crabs would be corrupted elder jellies, their crown turned into red shards 
Makes sense. And hello vela @.@
I dont know, seems a little too far fetched, we do know that shards can grow on land when exposed to too much darkness/corruption
So I think that it just gre on the crabs and corrupted them further
||Also I have a little hc where the more crabs get corrupted, the more distorted their voices get||
Now that I look at it... If this thing got corrupted wouldnt it be reminiscent of the krill?
Horns, the spotlight eye in the middle, their size/length
It would look more like the Leviathan, not exactly though
Oh fun fact ! The masks you get from basegame spirits in Valley (Backflip Champion and Bowing Medalist) as well as some in Wasteland (Fainting Warrior and Lookout Scout) kinda look like the faceplates of these 
maybe they modeled their protective/armor masks off the natural defenses of the creatures around them
Holy darkness Vela that's a really good observation!
Like Library said, maybe they modeled their armor after the light creatures. After all nature always influences art and the spirits' protective gear definitely was built with aesthetics in mind
WHOA THAT'S ONE OF THE WHALE BOYS W H A T
Right???? Crazy
A while ago there was this idea proposed that the whales were seen as symbols of might/strength by ancestor culture, similar to that of wolves in real life!
Yeah it's really cool ! Maybe it was their strenght that impressed ancestors, since they can destroy whole buildings.
Maybe mantas are renowned in the same way for their speed and birds for their sense of direction ?
Considering the amount of Manta Capes, perhaps. Then again wouldn't we see a lot of them worn by the racers if that were the case?
Maybe they were reserved for rich people 
||idk, they could be skinned|| Idk, they might be handmade by lower classes
I just noticed this, why is the path from Valley connected to GW?
oh my gosh ive literally never noticed that what
from people walking up to the wasteland portal, thinking better of it, and going to valley instead /j
Isn’t there like a theory where Wasteland used to be part of Valley?
But why Valley and Wasteland specifically? I mean, in the 2nd area (where the first krill is found), the structure is literally Forest's temple
maybe refugees from the Wasteland got sanctuary or new homes in Valley?
That could explain why there are so many houses in Valley (Dreams Village specifically)
i can’t remember the specifics but tgc has said/released something in the past related to the existence of Golden Valley. basically the cloudy area we fly through before reaching wasteland social space used to be part of the big city in valley
that could explain the name of the village too - obviously in terms of the season it's Village of Dreams because it was Season of Dreams and it was about the skater's dream, but within the world, why would it be called that? maybe it was the refugees' dream of a new home and a new start
I like that headcanon 
you're welcome to snag it!
also, speaking of the paths, i love how all the others have proper paths and isle just has a crater in front of the portal
maybe from skids landing there so often?
no... skykids land in the stone plate at home (not a comfortable landing if you ask me
)
true :/ i do think it'd be funny if we just got plopped down directly in front of the isle portal though, like when you put a baby or animal right in front of what you want them to interact with
Who wants to hear about my takes of the individual Realm's history?
I wanna hear it, but might not make it through because I am gonna go to sneep soon 
Pick what you want to see
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Isle
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Prairie
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Forest
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Valley
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Wasteland
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Vault
- The Isle of Dawn
Ruled by the Elder of Dawn; Daleth
Once was a beautiful desert oasis filled with an array of rare, exotic fauna—now it’s just a desert
The Cave of Prophecies is a sacred and ritualistic destination and is considered a rite of passage for all.
The Summers are harsh and riddled with sandstorms, causing most who live there to seek shelter in the Temple.
The Autumns are the most festive—people from all over come to enjoy the annual Autumn Equinox Festival.
The Winters and Springs are dominated by Fledglings and their flight instructors.
The Temple
The entrance walls are painted with murals of the past
The right wings are dedicated to everyone seeking shelter from the storms
The left wings are for those who live and work there full time.
The central wings are dedicated to Daleth and the other Elders
Underneath the mountain that the Temple resides on, lies the sacred Cave of Prophecies
Pick what you want to see
1) Isle
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Prairie
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Forest
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Valley
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Wasteland
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Vault
Yes, broken temple resembles Forest Elder’s temple, but there’s a number of structures in Wasteland that resemble Valley’s architecture. We also see the diamond shadowed by two triangles symbols in both Wasteland and Valley.
There is also the quip from the 7 Days of Sky concepts wherein they speak of a “Golden Valley” that would be the downtown of the city. Perhaps that’s what the first area of Wasteland used to be.
gimme a sec, I need to organize the notes for 6)
take your time
also hey Alasdair!
I see talk about Golden Valley and I go nuts
- The Vault of Knowledge
Ruled by the Elder of Knowledge; Lamed
The Vault is situated a fair distance away from the action in the Golden Wasteland (but still kinda close) and currently serves as the Gateway of Eden.
The further you ascend, the more disconnected from reality it becomes; the walls eventually disappear, replaced by stars and constellations, and the rooms themselves seem to get bigger and bigger when they’re not.
The entrance branches off into various hallways leading to lodging accommodations
The first floor represents the Isle of Dawn via the various sand dunes and texts regarding its history.
From here, you can access the Archives, where the oldest texts are stored.
You can also access the Cemetery, where the previous generations of Archivists are put to rest.
The Starlit Desert is a place where Astrologists and the like can safely do their studies.
The second floor represents the Daylight Prairie by modeling the architecture after the Villages
Here, Archivists and Travelers can sit together and feast in a little room off to the side.
The third floor represents the Hidden Forest through crystalized trees and floating pagodas.
This is where the surrealness starts to show itself
The fourth floor represents the Valley of Triumph by mini coliseums and waterfalls made of light (representing snow)
Moths like to fly around with the spirit mantas here
The fifth floor represents the Golden Wastelands by the bones of a King Krill and Elder Spirit Manta.
The sixth floor is the final floor, where Lamed is often found on her throne
Behind the throne is where she would access her quarters
The Summit is off-limits due to its close proximity to Elysium
This serves as the Gate of Eden.
Only the bravest of the brave may enter.
Pick what you want to see
~~1) Isle~~
2) Prairie
3) Forest
4) Valley
5) Wasteland
~~6) Vault~~
- The Hidden Forest
Ruled by the Elder of the Forest; Teth
The perimeter is guarded by a thick, dense fog, thus giving the realm its name
The Wind Paths are a vital component for trade and travel all over the Kingdom, connecting even the far reaches to each other.
Before the storms, the Clearing acted as a trading and repair dock for merchants though it was abandoned for alternative means.
The Treehouse is home to the Forest Scouts, a program that supports exploration and learning essential survival skills
The Brook is the main residence area with pagodas and tree houses made to withstand and provide shelter from sudden flash storms
The Elevated Clearing resides on the very edge of the Forest, rarely getting hit by storms. The Forest Scouts often do their exploration and camping badges here under Yiuha’s (Lady Belonging) supervision.
The Underground Cavern is an interesting area. Archivists from the Vault classified this place as a ‘microbiome’ due to the flora and fauna there.
The Tree Tunnels are where most of the Forest residents come to do their jobs ranging from lumberjacking, hunting, lightmining, etc.
The Boneyard not only serves as various avian species’ nesting grounds but also serves as the Temple’s main courtyard with a bridge that stood the test of time leading to the main entrance.
The Pink Forest behind the Temple is a living memorial for those who lost their lives in the War. Every year, travelers from all around come to remember those who gave their lives during the Days of Bloom.
The Summer is considered the safest in terms of weather; allowing the Forest Scouts to reconvene.
The Spring is the most festive— travelers come from all over to celebrate the Days of Feast.
The Winter and Autumn bring in the Open Hunting Season and allow trade through the Wind Paths.
The Forge
The entrance displays various creations from the Crafts Guild
The right wings provide rooms for permanent residents as well as housing for any visitors
The left wings lead to various forges used for creating weapons, gears, glass blowing, etc.
The central wings are reserved for Teth and the other Elders
The lake that surrounds the Temple is home to fully matured jellyfish that migrated from the Valley
If Golden Valley was the downtown of the city of Triumph, then like other downtowns of cities, it would’ve been the main business center. People would go there to work or, if they lived there, lived close to or above their businesses. So if broken temple was once a refinery, it makes sense that people would go down to what is now Wasteland to work there.
Likewise, there’s a lot of hints that Wasteland might’ve once hosted a port/harbor — bejng along the shoreline, the boats — so perhaps ancestors also went down to Golden Valley to work on ships or to sail. Some of those workers could’ve been shipped to the Treasure Reef facility to do experiments there.
I gotta go I will be back soon to show the rest of the realms
take care!
Part of Golden Valley may be covered by clouds we fly over after departing the Valley Elder(s)’ temple, the other part consisting of what is now Wasteland, ruined by industrial pollution and eventually warfare.
i love the idea of Golden Valley being a more metropolitan area than what we see elsewhere - business, as you've said - but also a cultural mixing pot, with markets full of colorful stalls offering goods and services from across the kingdom
bell merchants from the prairie, candlemakers from the isle, toolsmiths from forest, etc
Compared to the other realms, Valley of Triumph seems it would’ve had the most people as urban areas often do. Densely populated, buildings packed close together, lots of paved over constructions. Even years after the Eden calamity, the realm is still shining with decadence & luxury and really seems the most preserved. We also have these realm timelines of the emotional highs & lows the player is intended to feel while traversing the realms as well as the stages of civilization they represent. Valley is an emotional high and represents the peak of civilization — it is the brightest, most glorious, most technologically advanced area of the kingdom.
Now, Happy Spectember!( this time I got it right )
It could be connected to how the Golden wasteland & Valley used to have a high level of traffic between the two, given that the Golden wasteland used to be a heavily populated area where the working class tended to live & Valley being an area where the more aristocratic/rich class lived. It would make sense that with both these places being so interconnected that they would have the most treaded path between them
HOLY KING this is really well done
especially the interesting implication about Days of Bloom. I'm gonna add this to my headcanon now
thank you!!
But Golden Wasteland seems to be so dark, I wonder if a permanent clouds always covered the Sky
I assumed that the clouds in the sky were the gas form of the liquid that falls off when you burn away corrupted plants
Wax?
No the dark liquid
Hmm I’ve never noticed it
The reason for that in my opinion are the krills powder (?!) that thing when you are close to a krill you see like a trail of darkness
The Eden Storm produces a lot of clouds. Add to the fact that many new seasonal areas are revealed by receding clouds, I think the permanence of the pervasive clouds all over the world are a result of the Eden calamity and maintained by the Storm.
Thats a good one! But what really happened in eden? Whos that person everyone bowing to with the light diamond in the second area of eden when you lit the candles? We really need more lore 
What happened to Eden is really unclear. Presumably the Eden diamond was built for some good given how it’s being praised in the Eden mural, but something went wrong and Eden was swamped in darkness
Yes exactly i really hoped shattering had more lore about what happened in eden and to the diamond but these memories have something especially the krill memory!
Season of Shattering theory:
The world is ending, and reincarnation is ending
eh, the world already ended and you can still ascend from Eden after dying in stormlock so unlikely
I just realized the mountain in sanctuary is the same shape as the one in Journey
Well, given that much of the kingdom was seemingly built atop the clouds along with the significant importance of the windways in trade & commerce (which by it's nature necessitates the existence of atleast some kind predictable cloud formations that could be mapped to allow safe transit between the realms), I'd have to imagine there must have been atleast a little permanent cloudcover over the kingdom, but not the extent that exists currently. In my opinion one of the many reasons why the calamity at eden was so destructive was thanks impart to the fact that it turned what was once safe, stabile areas to build into volatile hellscapes filled with darkness as it's rapid expansion from the mountain blotted out the sun & provided the right conditions for/to produce invasive dark-creature species that could now hunt unimpeded 
You guys know the Krill that swam around the big door in Treasure Reef after you unlocked the lighthouse but didn’t unlock the last quest to save Cannoneer?
It never attacked me for some reason, even when I got in its line of sight. So I thought it was friendly due to all the natural light in the reef satiating the darkness in it enough that it didn’t need to hunt for light. I named it Bob. I miss Bob.
What's the lore behind the turtle?
my hc is that sanctuary islands aren't just a sanctuary for us but for creatures of light too, which is why we see things like the turtle and the mantawhale thing that don't exist anywhere else in the game
Oh
as for why it gives off wax sometimes, i think it might be similar to the eel in Reef. my hc there is that their internal light builds up over time, and needs to be diffused out into the environment to keep them from overloading
in the eel's case it's a constant process, but for the turtle (maybe because of thicker skin?) it's a cycle that waxes (pun not intended) and wanes over the course of a day
For the last one, that’s most likely the Eden Elder or Eden King, an extremely mysterious figure in their own right
You mean an extremely cool figure in their own right, right? 
But there are seasons afterwards
Isn't the next Season just a glorified concert?
please don’t mention Beta in Live channels. idk how true what you’re saying is but I don’t want to know yet 
What? I'm just going off of what the mural thingy at the music shop has.
ah ok makes sense (gonna go soon so don’t say too much pls)
okie :3
Yeah also the next season was already revealed publicly and it's literally about a Singer so it seems pretty obvious what this season could potentially be about (I haven't seen beta before anyone asks)
all we have is that teaser, so that's all that can be talked about in here. any more detail flirts with beta territory
i still have my fingers crossed that there'll be some element of the natural phenomenon of the aurora but that's just me
tgc give space cape i beg
Welcome back 
How goes the living & vitamin consumption that you are statically likely to partake in?
uhhh
Nonexistent.
I'm in school (i did have lunch)
Once the bell rings eventually, I go to Multimedia and have fun with a brand new 8k resolution cinema camera
This is because the chat’s so far down.
I’ve always thought that if it moved a few channels up we’ll get a bit more activity, but not too much to be overwhelming
channel does not need to be active 24/7, Baud.
i know
my experience with this channel was that it was pretty active
I wonder why the valley twins have one eye 
channel activity comes and goes depending on when the regulars are available
I know, but there shouldn’t be long periods of hours at a time where no message is sent
That’s fine
And I don’t think any channel moving will make it active 24/7. Maybe for an initial day, but not anything besides that
in game, they're referred to as the singular – Elder of the Valley - but there's obviously two of them, so what's up? some thoughts:
a) they've always been two separate entities but considered equals so referred to as one.
b) they're one entity with two bodies.
c) they're a mini collectivist hivemind; they are two separate entities but can, at some point, lose their individuality and become one mind. However they cannot physically fuse.
d) the actual Elder of the Valley is no longer around (Valley priestess from concepts) so their heirs act as their replacement.
e) they were one entity who split at some point and the kingdom still refered to them as if they're one (implied by in-game foreshadowing). This is why they have one arm and one eye each, because the split wasn’t perfect.
I wrote a fic where they're in this liminal state between one and two entities despite having two bodies.
And making the channel slightly more active is a plus in my mind. After all, more people means a greater diversity of people, which decreases a singular groupthink and makes more interesting theories. Obviously this is only to an extent
Pick what you want to see
1) Isle
- Prairie
3) Forest
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Valley
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Wasteland
6) Vault
wait I realized i cannot. I have to get to the dr's office
Baud, we already have a lot of interesting theories, a lot of new folk who come in here with their own takes as well as willingness to listen to each other. also get a fair number of blokes who come into this channel when they really should be in other channels. if anything, if the channel was moved up some, I'd imagine the increased traffic would just be people who were looking for #questions-and-help or #beta-discussion.
there is already diversity of thought here. we don't need to force more.
I know that, but I have an idea that the more people there are (to an extent), the more interesting the theories and discussion.
Moving the channel up will cause a barely-significant change in the playercount. It’s mostly symbolical, since I really don’t like that the channel’s at the bottom of the Sky server
- lorechat is not at the bottom of the Sky server. there are 4 other categories.
- more people ≠ more interesting theories and discussion.
if it’s mostly symbolical to you, why continue to make a big deal out it? if you want there to be more interesting discussion, why not start the conversation with a theory, headcanon, or in-game evidence rather than discord server meta that leads nowhere?
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It’s at the bottom of the “Sky” section, which bothers me, especially if the channels are sorted by activity or importance
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It’s not an automatic increase, but a small group of people can’t and shouldn’t talk about the entirety of Sky lore. There should be others who are willingly partaking in the discussion, rather than 2 people with nothing to talk about?
Baud, I doubt the channels are sorted by importance
It could be random, but there is a reason why general chat and cozy chat are so high up
cos gen discussion channels are always by the top of Discord servers, they are by default
Others like to observe and pipe in whenever, like me. I also have just started school again, and so I'm not as active as say, last week. I agree with Alasdair here personally. There's enough people, and new ones will join when they wish to.
I'm old to the discord server, but I've only ever really started talking because I wanted to look at new opinions on the lore from other people. Others will come when they want to, and I'm personally fine with the amount of people we have currently
I’m just annoyed because whenever I come on, there hasn’t been a message for a few hours and all the old conversations are concluded
then start it up again. you have the power to revive the channel
There’s no point if I’m the sole person reviving it, what if nobody comes to the conversation?
hiya, lore chat!
i obviously am not the server owner/creator/moderator or anything like that, but i do create a fair number of private servers, so maybe i could offer some insight?
when i'm organizing a server, there definitely is a logic to how i sort things, but i don't think of any channel as more important than other. i usually start by which channels i think the majority of the server would have the most interest in, so i'd put general chat at the top. then i want to encourage people to share their creative contributions, so i'd put channels for sharing art and writing and such. if it's a big enough server that i'm seeing general chat being flooded by a certain kind of content (screenshots, memes, requests, etc) then i'd make a channel for that specifically and list it next.
in my hypothetical server, lore chat would be somewhere in the 'creative contributions' or 'specific content' groups, and depending on how things work within the particular channel i might put it higher or lower. in this case, since it's a spoiler-heavy channel, i'd want to put it somewhere accessible, but where people who don't want spoilers are less likely to stumble in by accident.
the unfortunate nature of discord servers is that the channels are formatted as a list, and that means things have to be put in an order even when there are multiple things you'd rank equally. it's frustrating for sure, as much for the people behind the scenes as the people in the channels, but compromises have to be made somewhere :(
consider this – someone earlier popped into lorechat asking about the Valley Elder(s). I gave my quip. you went off on an underrelated tangent about the location of the channel instead of adding to a potential discussion that had two other people waiting around. so now that lore-rich discussion is dead and buried for a convo about something that us regular users cannot do anything about.
yes, sometimes a singular message won't revive the channel. but sometimes it can. when there are other people, it suits lore discussion to talk about the lore topic or the singular question someone dropped rather than something that would be better said to the mods.

bad timing, skybot
woah alsadair
thank you! after i read your fic (100000/10 that was so good) i got really confused and also really intrigued about the valley elders
yea my fic reflects my own thoughts on the matter, but that message is more a collection of common theories about the Valley Elder(s) that I've seen floating around.
maybe thats why im having trouble writing oc lore that includes them. theres so many different interpretations and i dont know what to believe 
when I started writing my fic about them, I did have a certain perspective in mind, but that changed as I was writing. so you could start something and watch how, in the process of writing, what you settle on in the process of creating a story with them
that's one of my favorite parts about writing! as you come to understand the character(s), your perspective shifts in all sorts of fun ways
looking forward to writing my thing (is also a fanfic) for this reason alongside many others! though, I need motivation and concentration 
!!! can i ask for details about your story?
will send later, not feeling like writing a big thing - are you ok with dms? would prefer to there
totally, whatever you're comfy with
plot twist: salems display name is library because all the books in their library are peoples stories abt their ocs and fanfics
No my display name is OH
iydll really out here leaking my secrets lmao /j
Still trying to get used to having a name clone
we'll get there

season of salemttering
salem be upon ye
but to give a super crude summary: it follows some scholars assigned and/or volunteering to work in starlight desert, an experiment site adjacent to the vault which mainly specialises in the manifestation of objects from imagination into reality. as part of experiments there, the little prince spirits are some form of artificial intelligence (manifested similarly but more akin to how memory cubes work) created to serve certain purposes seen in society. it also centres around their interactions with the outside world as well as the scholars alone, and the scholars’ with the ais
that's so cool omg
vault lore my beloved + desert lore my beloved
this is the result of many a headcanon brewing for a long time from trying to explain why the area and spirits are Like That
i love that so much, i can't wait to learn more! the different ways of fitting desert and TLP spirits into the lore is super interesting to me
AYE i have a question. I saw a tiktok about this elder looking guy named Resh and I know absolutely nothing about them but the fact that they look like they have something to do with eden and the shards. could someone provide some info on Resh?
anyway. the manifestation thing is sorta what I believe purple light does? I kinda believe the area is so purple because of how infested the site is with it
Yeahhh thats what I believe too! 
have not started writing this yet because I need to plan more but am very excited to
also take me calling the spirits ais loosely. it’s a fitting term for how i see them but i’m not sure if it’s exact - just easier referral
They're an elusive figure, but you can see their influence in the realms, such as statues in the Wasteland or cave murals in Isle ! I think Salem compiled the latter ones but let me see if I can find you the picture...
anyway i will go do something. see you
I mean, since they are artificial intelligence, it works! although most people assume like, computer or robot when you say AI just because of how our world works, I would still use it
have fun vol! thank you for sharing your concept, i'm really looking forward to hearing about where it goes!
I have been taking inspiration from knowledge of Actual AIs (particularly their dialogue. also the fact I’m legit considering pursuing something involving that) for their characterisation so yeah
bye!
I have a Theory that related to the Desert, which is that after whatever went down in Eden, the Top of the Vault Tower was sucked on to Eden, hence why we see the Elder Table as we fly to Orbit. The Scholars sought to rebuild the tower and sought the power of memories, one that began by Vault's desire to undo the harm they did and introduce ghost mantas to the ecosystem along with the Bloom Trees. These experiments went down in the Starlit Desert, creating Buildings based on memories of different ancestors, originating troughout the realms. Seeing as their experiments became fruitful the Spirits rebuilt the Vault as a memory which is why the further we ascend, the less 'stone' we see. It's a little similar to yours.
So basically by manipulating light you could create new matter.
Compiled by Kamilico#9885 !
Lots of patterns reflect the Prince/King
the Eden king aka Eden Elder aka the king, sometimes called Resh by the fandom, is a figure that's simultaneously is and isn't present in the Sky world. they were present in concept development as a big bad boss figure we'd fight but ultimately save in Eden, having been corrupted, but that's no longer the case. devs have said that they're still in the game just not in a way you'd expect, so speculation on them is vague.
supposedly they oversaw Eden as their realm. some think they were behind the Eden calamity that ruined everything. some think they were the same as the prince or Chosen One depicted in the Cave of Prophecy murals. Chosen One, after completing the 4 Trials, could've been crowned prince and ascended into being king (hence pre-skykid civilization being referred to as "the Sky kingdom"). they might've had attained powers from completing all four trials that could've factored into the Eden calamity. they might've oversaw or greenlit power diamond production, the manufacturing of with increased darkness into the world and left it as it is today (see: Wasteland).
it's easy to cast them as the villain, especially given their characterization in concept art, however they aren't here to defend themself. we don’t know who they were as a person or how to characterize them in Live canon. they could have tried to reverse the effects of darkness corruption but failed. the corrupted diamond in Eden could've been their gift to the kingdom, not a manifestation of their greed or a "kill-all" switch. see, the Eden mural where a figure with Chosen One's halo presents a giant diamond to a huge genuflecting crowd of ancestors.
Woahhh thats really just a mindblower. I had no idea that Eden had THIS MUCH LORE
Welcome to Lorechat. This is barely the surface
[Jurassic Park Theme but it's a kazoo starts to play]
Replace 'Jurassic Park' by Lorechat *gif doesn't work
Sanctuary Islands after the last quest
So bored
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit
Here, maybe this can entertain you? Anyways, Sky lore is pretty fun, stay here a while
Talking abt reviving extinct species, I'm thinking to reconstrunct pre-corrupted Krill for Spectember! *chibi voice(I'll try)
Yeah might not succeed since I just entered school, but I'll try
Slayyy, but you're doing the exact opposite of slaying so- Unslayyyyyy
ah yes, unslay
Still I tought it'dbe fun if Lorechat's artist sought to recreate 'speculative' light creatures, like Wooly Manta *just a tought
i wish so hard i had art stuff rn, i've had so many sky ideas (skydeas) recently
Oh I'd love to honestly, but I'm a traditional artist and a procrastinator. Which is, y'know, the most lazy combination you can get 
I've also just started school so uh, yuh
Only good thing about it is that it's a year for you to improve yourself and try different stuff. You don't have exams at the end of the year, so perhaps I'll find the motivation that seems to only collect when it's 4 am 
Well maybe if you see Salem tell them abt it! They surely enjoy this sort of thing
Anyways, onto asking, are spirit personalities hinted in the TS hints?
I think so, but I never check the TS hints so... anyone else? 
it seems like it? a lot of them are memey, but some of them include things like hobbies or pastimes, so that's something
Alchemist falls for updog jokes canon
TS hints were random in the earlier days (I don't even remember if we got any for the first few) but I think somewhere around late 2020 is where they actually started to take off & resemble the character they reference more
Ooh Vela, I was thinking abt an idea, that in Lorechat some of the artists could design hypothetical light creatures, tough you might be interested, for Spectember
It's so funny, Shush showed up once then never again. They didn't have hints so their comeback is gonna come out of the blue
I have a feeling SLS's return will be a trainwreck
i want shush to break the servers or game prophecy crew style
Light frof
Yeah, most of the Lightseekers visited back to back early 2020
frof
Frog fluffy, frof
Watch out, maybe Ash will go "This weeks TS often forgets to eat" again
legit fear.jpg here
Krii don't do that to me, you know I would come greet them at reset 
this weeks ts died in alasdair’s fic
Ash opening lore chat for TS hint material (real)
shush should accidentally show up like crab walker and earth prophet
"hey Ash, do you read my fics?"
They aren't online, we're safe
for now
For now...
ash i have some lore suggestions [shoves alasdair’s fics towards them]
Ash is online
ily
I'm printing this and putting it on my frifge
if you won't show them your fics, I suppose I willl
When the time comes
"This week's TS would tack a skykid to the wall"
(NOT SLS)
okay so, Fruitzie you don't know this, but I have an ancestor OC who would tack a skykid to a wall and that skykid would deserve it
Frof on the frifge
EXACTLY
Oh that's why you use "crucify" for the time ||Cannoneer|| does it
I WOULD BUT IM NOT DONE YET
Ash did see Salem's fic
TRUE
okay but that skid is fine
They're just thumbtacked in like a post it
MAGIRINU THE BELOVED
an event that makes me tremble each time I rmemeber
lovingly putting a skykid on my fridge with a magnet
Galona the abhored
Which one was it...
kinda like this
(credit: Vela)
It's this.
images in my favorites folder
Who could forget
Sky Egogy
GOD THE IMAGE
I still can't get over the 90 degree angle of Admiring Actor's chin
They're built different
did you know Admiring Actor committed manslaughter?
#builtdifferent
That's bc they can't drive
too gay to drive but they tried
for a second i thought you meant mine and i panicked
HELP
Egogy dies. /j
hello I’m back
overjoyed to see this first thing
welcome back!
will lurk for now but occasionally chime in
wanting to show my skykid to you all very much but that’s not really relevant so only will when becoming so
Oh, I saw your fic idea and maybe the Ai's can be called 'mirages', due to heat creating mirages and stuff
skykid infodumping is always relevant imo but also i respect your preference to wait
I call them apparitions but that is a very cool alternate name idea 
Thx
Also because mirages are the trick of reflection/light but also mind. Perhaps that name can be used to remind the scholars that the AI aren't real (because to be fair, sometimes people act like that and you gotta save your energy
)
that would've been a perfect moment for skybot to chime in
I consider their chains the kinda indicator of that they’re not regular beings (also symbolising them being bound to specific purposes, and probably magically causing that too) - this nickname could be something that works too!
oooooh i love that idea for the chains wait
probably the purposeful visual indicator of “this is an AI” if that makes sense? that’s how I see it
would discuss this particular thing more but I’d rather reveal in writing than here if that makes sense
no i totally get it though, i'm always torn between wanting to Tell All The Things and have the maximum reveal in the writing itself
kind of a “if you know, you know” between scholars too
managing to resist. somehow.
you got this!
i'm also just, thinking about the Vault scholars attempting to create/recreate/mess with life
i went over my cosmic manta headcanon yesterday, that they're the result of a failed attempt to manually ascend creatures that died an unnatural death (possibly to avoid the buildup of manta corpses now that they've started turning into krill)
but i haven't put as much thought into the TLP spirits - i know the general vibe here is that they're artificial in some way but i hadn't really thought about what that meant or why the ancestors were messing with it
were they created as spirits to begin with? or were they biological/physical at first, like the ancestors were?
I feel like the AI were an attempt at creating people with (albeit exaggerated) personalities. I feel like the scholars projected a specific emotion onto each of the AI so that when they were shown, they looked like real spirits (hence the cosmetics, hair, etc.) but lacked a 3 dimensional personality (the spirits were projected with at least 2-4 emotions in mind, not enough to create a believably human AI but enough to give it personality)
Of course, you could give a darker spin on it by saying that the AI were based off of/were once alive ancestors and that the scholars tried to give them some semblance of life again but that just highlighted how the spirits' strongest emotions were in life and so they act as caricatures of themselves.
Or maybe even the route of "here is/was a person, first adjective that pops into your mind and we'll put that into the AI" and so the spirits are all a projection of what the scholars thought the people were like and not how they actually were?
Just throwing around ideas, it's your call! 
interesting, i'm definitely gonna process all of this and come up with something!
am in the middle of a vault cr so good timing >:3
I've always thought of TLP spirits being caricatures of each elder made by the Vault Elder in their daydreaming/musing/reminiscing (they're scorning both themselves and the other elders and so that's why they're all exaggerated and mostly put into a negative light) but I really like this take on the Starlight Desert! 
Ooohh I have a headcanon the TLP spirits are elder caricatures too !
Took it straight from this chat 
Assuming the Starlight Desert was once part of the golden wasteland, I have a theory that the TLP gang might once have been a ship's crew like Enchantment and Abyss crews, they got hit by the cataclysm and much like Enchantment crew they survived the shipwreck for a while, but unlike the other season crews, they didn't exactly remain optimistic and it took a toll on their mental health quickly leading to their eventual deaths.
Then the Vault Elder's purple light made everything funky
Oooh, so the Purple Light basically muddied their personalities into (arguably) their defining negative trait?
My other theory is that they were exiles/fugitives (they did NOT escape from a mental asylum don't even mention that kind of theory) that had to escape the Kingdom's society due to having committed "sins" (for the lack of a better word) and because they not only got hit by the cataclysm but also they didn't get along well in the slightest they didn't last long, and whatever "sins" they committed are what manifests as their chains.
Then the Vault Elder's purple light made everything funky
Ok i'm back and can do one before making dinner (ps dr appointment went well)
Pick what you want to see
1) Isle
- Prairie
~~3) Forest
~~
4) Valley
- Wasteland
6) Vault
Vault Elder: 🎵🎶Now it's time for things to get ✨funky✨🎶🎵
- The Golden Wasteland
Ruled by the Elder of the Wastelands; Tsadi
The Golden Wasteland was once called the Golden Plains before the War. Polluted lakes span miles and hidden refugee camps are scattered all around. Remnant Dark Riders are still a major threat.
The Treasure Reef is a mining and scouting colony rich in rare minerals and the like. It is heavily advised to avoid going too deep due to the Leviathan-class aquatic variants of the Krills.
The Broken Temple, once known as the Temple of Songs, serves as the main refugee camp. They stay on the outside of what used to be the wall surrounding the capital.
The Forgotten Ark is home to a traveling troupe that was coming home from the Valley. They got caught in a sandstorm, releasing their steeds and essentially grounding them there. The troupe decided to roll with it.
On the other side of the wall, Krills, designed to locate and destroy anything with light, patrol the destroyed capital, now more suitably called “the Graveyard.” The surrounding walls are enchanted to keep the Krills from leaving.
The Crab Fields serve as a memorial and a reminder of the attack that kickstarted the Civil War. The shipwreck was a family pleasure barge en route to the Sanctuary Islands. The ship never made it out of the city limits. There was only one survivor.
The Battlefield that surrounds the Temple is an inactive military zone. But still very dangerous. The military stationed there work around the clock to make sure that the Temple and the esteemed Vault are not breached.
The Temple
The entrance is lined with candles symbolizing all who gave their lives.
The right wings are reserved for various military operations.
The left wings are reserved for refugee needs and relief efforts
The central wings are reserved for the Elders.
Serves as the HQ for all military operations
thoughts?
oh hi I see people like my LP headcanon
feeling so honoured
TST! i really like your wasteland writeup!
and hey again vol!
loving these ideas. may use some if that’s ok 
What did I miss in lorechat this time????? 
okay we interrupt this broadcast of tlp brainrot to bring you a season idea
the hub is a tavern/inn (somewhere in valley maybe) and the guide is the innkeeper
the spirits are different patrons, and the memories take us to different realms to relive the stories they tell us about their adventures
cosmetics are fantasy/d&d themed
anyway back to your regularly scheduled programming
- The Valley of Triumph
Ruled by the twin Elders; Sah and Mekh (when referring to both: Sahmekh)
The epicenter of the city-state is nestled within a mountain range. Permafrost and snow banks are present year-round and is known as the City of the Arts.
The Village of Dreams offers housing and activities for both permanent residents and travelers from afar
The Ice Rink is a place where dancers and entertainers come to practice before their debut as well as where families come to have fun
The Valley has two types of races; sliding and flying. Races take place every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
The Sliding Races are an open event, meaning anyone that meets the safety standards can enroll, but only eight per age group actually get to go.
The Flying Races are far more physically demanding. Contenders spend weeks preparing for these races. Racers have to fit a whole bunch of high standards to be able to make the cut. Anyone who can do the rigorous training can participate if they're in the top eight of their class.
The Citadel is the training grounds for the Flying Races, closed to the public during Spring Training.
The Winter is the most attractive season due to the festive activities available for all as well as the Championship Race of the season
The Summer and Autumn are the official racing season
The Spring is when strenuous training for the racers happens as well as a local event called “Days of Love”
The Temple
The entrance gives tribute to all the Champions that came and went
The right wings are for traveling troupes and visitors to stay in.
The left wings are mainly multi-purpose rooms as well as Race Council chambers
The central wings are reserved for Sahmekh and the visiting Elders
The entire structure, the stadium included, is built on an intricate labyrinth that only the Elders and a select few could hope to navigate. No one knows why the maze was built, to begin with.
- The Daylight Prairie
Ruled by the Elder of the Prairie; Ayin
Regarded as one of the most serene realms in the kingdom. That is until a Fledgling or even a Moth comes barreling through the sky.
The Butterfly Fields offer a wide and open space for Moths to practice more flying and bask in the light
The Villages act as a ‘Main Street’ with shops and various jobs
The Bird’s Nest is a vast animal sanctuary where travelers leave their mantas to be cared for
The Sanctuary Islands are a rather remote destination and one of the Prairie's main attractions
The Caves provide a naturally protected and fortified space for housing.
The Summers are the busiest with travelers visiting the Sanctuary Islands
The Winters bring in rather harsh cold fronts and freezes
The Spring and Autumn are reserved for trade and work
The Hall
The entrance is lined with numerous handmade gifts from the citizens of the Prairie
The right wings are the various multipurpose rooms
The left wings are reserved for permanent residences
The central wings are reserved for Ayin and the other Elders
Various docks leading to the courtyard allow easy access to the underground caverns where supplies are kept in case of emergency.
this. i like this
I honestly forget that the world of Sky was a fully fledged functioning society
keyword: W A S
until big rock in the sky go boom
Theory this is exactly what vault elder described eden as to sky kids
BIG ROCK GO BOOM BIG BIRD IN SKY
Speaking of Birds, does anyone have Elder Bird theories or headcanons?

To some degree the Wind Paths elder bird treats Light Whisperer as another one of their children and LW is perfectly aware and used to it
In fact sometimes it's really comfy
Who's LW again? 
Light Whisperer
Ah, thank you
so i’m replaying TLP memories and i noticed this in one of the books. it looks a lot like mantas flying toward eden, and made me think of the third shattering memory, with the mantas. what do we think?
YEAHHHHH WE NOTICED THAT TOO based off the shattering poems, it looks like the mantas got attracted to the light of (maybe exploding? or just radiant, who knows) Eden and then trapped within whatever happened next
Gonna drop the manta frozen memory poem:
Soft wings flowing to bright beacons
Drawn from the path, trusting until too late
Bound in a merciless harness
Soft wings despairing against stone
[emphasis mine]
yeah! i just think it's really neat that it was teased as early as TLP
Yeah! I actually just now realized that the extra glow might be an explosion, like the light that fills the sky right before a shard; I thought it meant to be the Eden beam being especially bright before a diamond was placed over it or something
ooooooh
i wonder if this is a depiction of the particular explosion that got the mantas we see in the memory?
It definitely could be!! Although I wonder… what does that mean about geographer drawing and studying it
maybe they saw it from a distance? you get a really good view to eden from their area
Yeah!! I mean like timeline reasons 👁️👁️
ohhhhh yeah- oh, yeah
Giggling at the realization that we both say Yeah! Before sentences a lot
we are one, we are Samekh
The shared Salem syntax
salymtax
PEOTGMroambxe
SL
I CRIED WHEN I SAW FHESE TOO sobbing I WAS JUST ABOUT TO POST THEM
SOBBING MY EYES OUT
THAT CAPE
I have art for an AU with descriptions and bits of lore if anyone wants to see
The Dark Elders AU!!
THE PERFORMNACE STUFF IS SO CUTE
O7 AGAIN VIOLIN
i love the pastels so much omg
THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY
im soo normal i love performance a normal ammount
i was gonna post them. i saw the post and was like "yes lorechat will love these"
OMG
YES PLEASE
hi chat :)
THIS LOOKS CLOSE TO THE PANTS I DESIGNED FOR THE GUIDE (except a few minor details) GET OUT OF MY MIND
Darks brain STOLEN for ts hint and performance concept purposes
HEHRHDH
Deep within the Hidden Forest, there lives a predator like no other. With a coat made of ebony and nine mesmerizing tails, Katjaña hunts like a shadow. With eyes glowing red and claws of steel, she stalks her prey and waits for the perfect moment to pounce.
No one knows where this huntress came from. Some speculate that Katjana was one of the Fallen King's experiments.
Others speculate that she was once their beloved Lady of the Forest, now corrupted beyond hope.
One thing is for certain: wherever the recurrent rain falls is her territory and Katjaña. Hates. Trespassers.
how are we doing today :D
I'm so normal I'm so sane
rghrhghghg i hate using emoticons anyways concept art!!
Performance concepts dropped what what what
LOOK
This performance concept did make me laugh because of one specific comic i-
omg the spirits with penguin colors
Me filling the camera roll rn
I love how u can see ghe outskirts of forest ehere…
Someone blasting music loudly and directly behind rains temple to harass them specifically
EDIT: wait, what if that’s not the outskirts of forest but of wasteland
More focused on the gay sky
Performance guides powers strike again
i rlly love how they had huge crowds in concepts but then it went red and cozy and comfortable, alternative sky au where we got blue side performance
The darkstone spotlights are killing me. A manta DIED for this
Straight Performance be like
LOOK AT ME BOY
Glad this wasn't in the game
||Introvert moment||
PERFORMANCE CONCEPT ART MY LIFE MY LOVE
SEASON OF PERFORMANCE CONCEPT ART I AM SCREAMING PUNCHING N CHEERING RN
playing the worlds worst performance of sheet 17 and the crowd goes wild
Giggling & kicking
i love how stagehand stayed basically the same throughout all of the redesigns 
I love how Stagehand shrunk and barely changed
Literally playing gibberish and the crowd throws flowers at me
Stagehand perfect day 1
stagehand was always meant to be a cat
stagehand knew their destiny
Furry
PLEASE I WOULD HAVE DIED, THE QUESTS WHERE WE HAD TO BE ON STAGE GAVE ME SO MUCH ANXIETY
long hair storyteller my beloved they remind me lowkye of one of my ocs gor some rrason,, the silly..
MOTH MODEST MOTH MODEST
I would've loved the moth like cosmetics actually
i rly want the hair on this one, it looks so soft
help my autocorrect came up with furryphobic 😭😭
This concept art is just feeding my love for Season Of Performance brb 🚶♂️
musician’s concept art is probably my favorite. love that hairstyle
SUNSET CAPE? IS TOP LEFT HOLDING A LANCE??
THE LITTLE HAIR TUFT THO....
You could stab someone with that
It took me so long to realize it’s a guitar
Electric spear
My point is made
Instrument Violence
What kinda guitar is that 😭
i can't express how much i need this design. the hood, the horns, the scroll cape i can't
THE HAIR TUFT I AM DEAD I AM DECEASED....
I WAS LOOKING AT THIS TOO… THE SCROLL CAPE… I LOVE IT SO MUCH, AND IT MAKES ME WONDER ABOUT WRITING
Concept storyteller musing over their lines 🥺
ITS SO CUTE,, storyteller (presumably) having vault vibes bc thats the realm that literally holds the most stories….
ghrhgrhghhhghrghrghrghrhghrhrghrhgrhrghghgr (Normal Grip)
my vault spirit oc design notes include "cape like book pages" i need this give it to me i'm begging you
This is just so Good
Alternate universe where we’d gotten scroll cape forgotten storyteller and could decipher ancestor writing
TGC give me the ancestor written language
I kinda wonder what made the devs decide on giving the Dancer their headscarf…… other than like. Having another headscarf
looks nice
True true
For some reason I can't access the performance concept arts
MOOD
ive tried to decipher some of the concept arts (there's one that does show it) but idk if we can make a full script from it
My guess would be like. Valley is a huge city and probably had tons of different cultures represented within its population so maybe it was to reflect that?? Idk
Still can't
grabby hands
im trying to find the concept art that has it lmao. ive got the translations
i am making feral linguistics gremlin noises so hard rn
the masks that have more pointed beaks and look more finished r so, makes me think of future masks the crew could have 🥺
omg
Interesting seeing how Performance’s stage shrunk in development
ok lingo guys
im sure there's a higher res version of this but this is the one im looking for. u can actually tell that it's just letters but stylised
text as far as i can tell, from left to right
People of Sky
first one is actually kinda hard to tell, but i think it might be Labor
Intellectual
Warrior
Civilian male
Civilian female
Child of Light
and then all the rest are the realm's beta name "Dawn, Day etc" followed by Ancestor
Can you hear my heart shatter into a million bajillion pieces 😭
The entirety of Discord is crumbling the moment I wanted to point out Performance is slightly taller than Rhythm in one of the concepts
Masks they could’ve gotten in a better world 💔
i will devour this
Elder bird hoodie 
OK GLAD ITS NOT JUST MY DISVORD DYING PERFORMANCE TOO STRONG
Someone pointed out it looks like Arabic, knowing the language it does look like it visually but not literally
Just like the manta
:O
i swear there's a higher res version i just cant find it rn. but feel free to devour it lmao. took me a while and there are some inconsistencies and reused symbols. maybe some have different pronunciations. idk
cracks knuckles, breaks fingers
The images of the twins together are sending me to tears
SAME
they look so silly
Without them fighting? I swore I saw another picture with them together (but they seem to be fighting)
these mostly are killing me
Performance is slightly taller *power goes out
ITS SO CUTE,,,
They're setting up the stage together bruu
Hee
i imagine the way of writing would be like, draw the line first, then add the letter details above or below. the ancestors wouldve had to learn how to predict the length of a word before u write it.
This image also slaughtered me on impact I am dead now
based on my first glance, i'd guess it's written similar to cursive, with blanks left for letters that can't be written with the same stroke
but given how some may be confused with others (double R in warrior with N) if we wanted to make this a real lorechat script we'd need to invent a way to distinguish them
Dots
Oh based off the picture with the different occupations in Sky?? I think that script was actually deciphered already it’s just not applicable to current game sadly
k and g also look much the same
dots is a viable option
Like how we distinguish between ت ب ث
(These look like boats)
t and d
these are the same unweighted and weighted letters as japanese
i think the two legs of the n are slightly wider spaced, at least in the font. if it were in-universe i'd suggest context would also help - a lot of letters in english cursive can be hard to distinguish in the same way
idk if the current in-game script is decipherable aren’t some of the paragraphs in the vault mural just flipped
Yeah, let me find a pic 😔
true! and despite this being not super applicable to the canon game this isnt going to stop lorechat from trying to make it up
oh absolutely, it's the closest thing we've got
You can really see it here, where many of the lines are just copy pasted
it does seem like gibberish yeah
i am choosing to believe it was once a readable script that has just been blurred or worn-down over time to look like gibberish
…Now that I look at that mural the way the mantas come out of the memory lanterns might imply some things about 
i think tgc didn’t expect us to try and read this stuff
i can’t tell is this image a bit clearer
it is, quite a bit actually
good take ngl
lorechat is insane i love this place
sobbing and bawling and crying and weeping tonight
My idea of it is cosmic manta would be created kinda like how day prairi elder change a flame into a butterfly, cosmic manta being from the light of these lanterns , i think
Can I steal
also no pendant moment only diamond
ALTHOUGH
the text in the vault one does resemble some text from a rhythm concept art that was shown at a sky assembly. i cant find it but it seems very similar shapewise
i keep meaning to look at the vault mural letters, too tired
also yes i have all of them if you’d like
Cough
Dammit it didn’t paste dammit discord
Sky language tumblr master post
This art is especially killing me bc rhythm definitely came off as the more idk. reserved? twin bc they didn’t have all the friendship emotes post quests that performance did. but they’re being really open and playful here
sobbing
also them having the same masks…
darn ok i thought i had something going here. thanks tho
my brain is going in too many directions at too high a speed i need to take a minute
Me too I Am Thinking
This is confirming many of my Thoughts
im still gonna think that voiced and unvoiced can be distinguished with a dot, that's my headcanon
u could probably use a font maker website to turn this into a font
there are 2 ways u can do it, depending on if you wanted a handwritten looking one or a clean one
for hand written, i'd go with calligraphr, u just fill out the letter sheet, put it in the site and make it a font
the others ive seen are all vector based and seem like they'd take much longer
I interpreted it as Rhythm being caught off guard, I'm hanging onto that because reserved Rhythm is not something I saw often, if at all, since they're often characterized as aloof/flirtatious/narcissistic
(Your interpretation is Good too is what I meant)
I know this is concept art but rips it out of everyone's hands and tacks it on a flora guide board
What if flower was balls
YEAH I’ve seen that a few times in art but it never quite stuck in my head as correct? I’m interpreting the picture as like when you’re around your friends/family and open up much more (I do this so much as a super shy person)
I LOVE BALL FLOWERS
Low poly flowers for your Low poly butterflies 💛
Obsessed
Also omg I'm looking at them a normal amount, they look so soft and cuddly, I want to hold them and not let go
You are so ...
I think everyone already squealed at the art of the twins interacting, I gained a few years to my life expectancy thanks to this
They had to change performance guides design from this so that gloat would not be replaced
Oh you're right! That makes sense
I like looking at the common interpretation of a character & going the opposite way
I demand an answer for elder bird hoodie not making the cut, they can't keep getting away with this
Ok my explanation is that they did it to spite you specifically /j
Who at TGC is opposing elder bird
this is ornithophobic /j
"Beaphobia is rampant at TGC 🙏 for just one small donation of elder bird you can make a difference"
OK BUT
BOUNDARY WITH FOREST ??? ALSO THE AURORA BOREALIS THEMES
IM IN LOVE
THIS GOT MY CREATIVE JUICES BACK (unfortunately it's 4am)
" Gay Sky"
-Dark, 2022
I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS PRE DISASTER WASTELAND (although modern forest is probably the better guess) BC OF THE TREES AROUND FORGOTTEN ARK
What if it was both tho
This made me realize… valley is on a single mountain right. Nothing’s saying forest can’t continue around it and meet up with wastrland also. Maybe they were both a massive forest before wastrland got nuked.
Man
Rainbow reacts to the aurora concept landscape so true
PRELUDE TO AURORA? WHAT IF ALL 4 SEASONS ARE CONNECTED
YOU
I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK
LOOKING VERY HARD WITH BOTH OF MY EYES
going feral cause i had a thought but then it clashed w another that i got n lost both of em in the idea soup
I am having Many Ideas too
THANK YOU IM MAD I DIDNT REALIZE THIS SOONER THERE ARE EVEN WITHERED TREES IN ARK… wondering if the plants all died from lack of sunlight or pollution or just the disaster in general
what if the clouds blocking out the sun was also part of it
Enchantment & Rhythm are the most commonly misinterpreted characters, I could go on about this but I'm dying soon
I TOTALLY GET YOU the “I’m correct about this character and everyone else is wrong” disease, I also get it bad for those two characters specifically and also literally everyone in prophecy
YOU GET IT
