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This is why they’re in two different realms, if they found out about each other the assembly scouts would get adopted immediately (commodore effect) and they would be too powerful together.
That's cool 👁️👁️
Man am I the only one that the more I dig in the game the more I love it?
…write that down, write that down!
i want to draw this 
these are the lightseeker concepts I was referring to btw. there's more I could drop if you want it
The same for me, finding new things about the Sky world was the most fun and overwhelming part of being in this channel
if marching adventurer and cannoneer met the world would just implode completely
U guys are inspiring me to continue my corrupted sky oc based on the war so much, and now that I know about the 2 factions I'm making her a traitor. Hehehehe
Yes.
light the harpoon thingy on fire 
assembly guide freaking out and abyss guide is like “it’ll be fineeee” and then runs off to join the two
You give yourself too much credit. Think of this as less a negotiation or an agreement, but more so as a mugging
also since they're technically not dead the debt still stands but that's besides the point

Off topic... but ur username?? NOT THE POOR JELLYFISH💀
My brain is being wobbly rn but keep in mind that the two factions aren’t a confirmed thing (but definitely one of the more possible ideas!) for example, I think the weapons were used against krill :] hence why they’re so large, maybe the spears brought them down and the swords were leverage to get under their scales
I’m older and have creaky bones. You can’t mug me
Baud please you don’t even know what the quadratic formula is yet
A lot of the pins are older so i wanted to create a new list of more recent resources-
Currently I have
Recent moth doc
Clumsys concept art google doc
salems mural masterlist
the japanese streams with translations
recent seasonal concepts (tlp-shattering)
days of sky
sky animation teaser
sky assembly concepts doc
i feel like im missing stuff, so taking suggestions before i send a huge link wall and asking for a pin, as well idk if i should have user content in or iust official sources so want some feedback on that too
Wait I've a theory... What if!
The 2 factions started the war right? They fought a lot but in the middle of it the krills started rising and killing everyone they met on their path... Basically forcing the 2 factions to work together and develop better weapons to fight the new enemy. Eventually tho they got defeated by the dark dragons and the elder was defeated as well leading to their death.
Idk I'm just speculating here
y = mx + b
TYSM for including my masterlist on there!! I really appreciate it and your efforts in general
ISNT THAT FOR SLOPES?
ok thank god my memory isnt that poor GFMDBDN
Alasdair…
my school starts in 3 days let me keep my summer 
Idk what do u guys think? Could this be plausible?
The quadratic formula is for slopes
It could
No????
i looked it up and the formula that google gave me is a hell of a lot more difficult looking than y =mx + b
Ok on the note of formulas I'm out
quadratic formula for reference
Honestly, the details on the war are so vague beyond “it happened and there were two types of weapons” that anything at this point could be plausible
Idk I just literally wrote the idea I had in the moment I had it... I should still well define it
I do like your idea though! It definitely fits, and takes care of the issue of “if there were two sides how did the krill fit into it” though
Bc you're right it's too vague I'm very aware of it
Oh i mean! The lore given in game is too vague, not yours!
I also thought about the wasteland elder cutscene when I speculated that
THEY'VE HAD IT TOO GOOD FOR TOO LONG.
A friend of mine once said that the souls of the dead warriors turned into revengeful spirits (wich are krills), and try to regain their light by krilling the one from mantas and sky kids
Ooo oops lol
Well I mean even my theory it's pretty vague
I'll make you sound like a xylophone for those 195 hearts
You know what? That makes sense
I have good friends 😌
The regain their light part is most likely correct, however it is confirmed that krills are corrupted light creatures!
Now that I think about it... What is darkness? How it originated?
what if the krills krill us to try and regain their light 
honk i forgot to turn off ping
If my friend theory is right it means that krills aren't just krilling us for fun but because they want to go back to their original form
Ohh
Why is it there in first place? Does it have a precise purpose other than trying to make me lose all my progress because a crab can't stop charging at me even though I'm pretty much dead already??
Addendum:
waiting for the shattering quests to show uncorrupted krills /j
Ok guys so I have a question who are the sprits of the young tree and what do they do
That’s Crab Whisperer from the Season of Lightseekers
Yeah, that’s what I mentioned was correct! Also Keep in mind, both of you, that you don’t have to reply and ping when I’m the message right there 
The part about krilling us to instinctually try to gain back their original forms is implied, and is my headcanon as well. Although their original forms are light creatures instead of people
A I didn't know it it was from a season
sorry for the sudden twxt wall event in a moment hoping skybot doesnt get me
They're the spirits from the season of lightseeking just vibing around
I've a question.. Could the season of shattering darkness plant mask be a hint to the fact that sky kids or similar can get corrupted??
oops, sorry salem
i think its a habit from lurking in gen and cozy chat too much
Also Xtale pfp that's cool
Tbf their appearance at the saplings was added around Days of Bloom 2022, so a fairly recent development. Saplings had been around, but they were smaller and unaccompanied
Hahahaha thanks yeah I like too
A menace (canon)
Doublefive (another spirit from the same season) is canonically afraid of them
Yea
LOST WOODS LET'S GOOO
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crab whisperer the menace 
woo no beans for slink!
I love you slink #slinksweep
Slink the librarian, underpaid but not underappreciated
More like #teamslink
Does anyone have the answer to this?
Giving slink one slinkbillion candles
Imagine a completely new moth stumbling into this channel and asking what’s going on in Sky and you respond with this
(I’ll do that)
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
if i knew the lightseekers spirits did other stuff other than stand around the tree during bloom i mightve played a bit more 
What💀
crab whisperer is the chaotic evil of lightseekers spirits
Just CW things, not a bug
Most likely, yes, and it doesn’t seem like a leap to assume skykids can be corrupted bc every other light being can. However, since exact details aren’t shown in game, interpretations vary on how it works from person to person ( @frigid tinsel has great corrupted skykid lore)
Theoretically skykids could eat dark plants to purge them if their inner light/flame is enough to burn them externally, why not internally. Though with the dark plant cosmetics (mask, hair accessory, cape), it could imply that there are instances where skykids’ flames are not enough to stop dark plants.
It may not necessarily indicate corruption but rather a sort of parasitism.
Or you could take those cosmetics as skykids mimicking the appearance of dark plants out of light projections like all their cosmetics but, yknow, if you want an alternative suggestion.
Likewise
There’s a thought that ancestors could contract “darkness sickness,” or darkness plants that grow off of them. Known or suspected ancestors who had this include Rejecting Voyager, Slumbering Shipwright, and the bald spirit in Tearful Light Miner’s spirit memories.The darkness plant accessories we get this season can imply that skykids can also get darkness sickness.
Tysm!
credit to slink
my favourite part during #lore-discussion-spoilers is when I found a lore link and handed it to Slink and then they said it was lorin' time and they slapped my link on their doc so hard my face exploded off my body and i died and i loved them so much i spent 1000 lightbillion dollars on candlepacks so i could buy them and every person that breathed in my vicinity cosmetics i have [platonic] feelings for slink slink sweep i hope their message gets pinned by mods so that every moth i meet will see their hard work #SlinkSweep
HEKP ME
MiaisoaospaoaosQOEIWIDJAODIAOSODJ
The CW is something else
Tysm! This helps me a lot
It's unbelievable how majority of bugs are in-character, like yeah they would actually do this
I like to imagine scaredy cadet is stuck above the theater bc of them
In my fic, they get imprisoned but just phase out of jail
I was kind of drawing one of my sky ocs getting corrupted by darkness since it's basically how they were born... I needed to know if that could have been Canon in any way
Crab Whisperer invented chibi falling
I need to get at my laptop if you wanna talk more about headcanons of darkness affecting skykids.
CW the blueprint for us chibi fallers
Yes please if you dot mind 👁️👁️ I need to know the LORE
Alasdair go get your powerup
I like to think it's possible for skykids to wield some darkness, since light and darkness should be balanced, but it's a bit harder because skykids are creatures of light!
Actually CW has insane levitation skils & they were passed down to SC
It's like when you drink those potions in Minecraft that make you more powerful
may i post a lightseeker’s meme 
Yes please absolutely
tell me who i should add/move
While we're waiting for Alasdair to get their power up I've got a question, is eating and drinking necessary for sky kids? Cause in the game you can't really find food to eat besides the one you get from cosmetics, and you aren't actively invited to do so, so I'm assuming that sky kids can eat but just if desired to, not because it's a need, they could go all their life without eating a single thing and nothing would change about them but I feel like asking it since I'm relatively new to sky lore
This is so unbelievably accurate.
I think it's a common sentiment that they don't need to eat, but do so if they'd like to
I don’t think so, they seem to be just fine without food or drink
Ye ye just as I thought
skykids are, in part, thought to not to need to eat because they're commonly assumed to be nonbiological. they gain energy through light, but they also have a flame as a constant source of light. I don't think skykids can feel hunger due to this lack of need to eat
I wonder what food does to their bodies and if they have a digestive system or something among those lines
My honest opinion is that both crab whisperer and twirl should be moved a block upwards
cos they don't need to eat, they wouldn't have a digestive system. actually probably have no organs at all. the commonly accepted theory is that skykids are physically hollow and full of light
The food would just burn to a crisp
there’s only one evil lightseeker and they are stuck inside the jar
You think the food burns inside them when they eat?
What? I didn't know about this 👀
may i ask who the jar prisoner is
It’s a character in one of alasdairs fics, they’re not actually in the jar but it kinda blew into a meme
ah
one moment
Degonime aka Deggie the dog (not an actual dog)
Headcanon Piggyback Lightseeker talks like a surfer dude because a TS hint says they surf
REAL
new and improved
asdfcaskjfrkensfn
the meme started when alaadair was talking about how spirit cores worked in his fic and we all collectively realized that if you put one inside the vault jar the spirit couldn’t get out. so that’s how it AOEJQOEOWODOQOWKRJFJ
CONTAINMENT BREACH
What about the guide? 
I think this constitutes a spirit war crime
OH NO I FORGOT ABOUT THEM
for some reason i thought laidback pioneer was the guide 🤨 brain no think
lightseeker guide is sweet but an idealist
Lightseeker guide DEPOSED in favor of strange emo catperson
Tbf they sat away from everyone during the event, I was sad ☹️
Question:
Can sky kids or any other creature of light bleed? If yes does it bleed liquid light or smth?? What if it gets corrupted? Does it bleed liquid darkness? (kind of like the drops that come out from darkness plants when you burn them)
i have an idea for the last two slots but it requires some rearranging 
But at least they moved around a bit, they do seem really sweet with a loud personality
Legitimately have no idea where I’d put lightseeker guide on this list because they are not evil but also that means I have to move one of the others down to evil so it’s a lose lose
does anybody have a photo of the guide 
This is during the DoB event
(Dressed in my LS moth outfit)
thank you
Lightseeker Degonime's first appearance
DOB LIGHTSEEKERSGUIDE BELOVED they rock the pink cape <3
I KNOW RIGHT RHEYRE SO HUGABLE
btw the scholar is Shushling Light Scholar. the other characters are OCs for plot purposes
Degonime #1 enemy of the state
DoB lightseeker guide was shaped like SUCH A FRIEND i wanna hug and drink tea with them
Did you know they got punched in alasdairs ficverse
maybe a little less true but here’s the full version
wdym SLS is lawful evil
Move shush rn you monster /hj
to where 
two lightseekers can share a spot and we can put thatskyshops $100 umbrella in the evil spot <3
None of the LS are evil this is a difficult decision 😔
Is this answerable?
its either i include two umbrellas or i dont include the guide
To my arms
Do we know anything else about sky kids or creatures of light in general other than they're most likely not biological?
in game, we don't see skykids bleeding, so this is all up to headcanon. I like to think that since the light inside them is immaterial, if skykids had any cracks or crevices in their shells, their light would leak out like sunbeams

BONK 
That makes a lot of sense actually... We see the same behavior when we relive a spirit memory
IM A SHUSH PROTECTOR
THEY ARE MY FRIEND AND NOT EVIL, THEY JUST DON'T LIKE LOUD NOISES AND LOOKING AT PEOPLE IN THE EYES
I like to think their limbs can be reattached too as long as it doesn't succumb to darkness & disconnect
As long as the core is not severly damaged, they'll be fine
Hold on.. Are sky kids spirits? Upgraded spirits? Or are they something different?? And same applies to elders... What are they?
this is the final version, if we want any more changes im putting it in memes chat
HELP
oh I wrote that too but I was in such a body horror moood that idk if it's safe for Skycord so
SO TRUE #shushsweep
pspsps SLS come for TS, I have cake
i think im just gonna put shush in the box with no title thingy
Speaking of that my top TS canidates are SLS, Alchemist & S Student
Shushing Light Scholar is on the spectrum and my friend
AND SAME GUESSES DARK
ok
last one
i am done
I MISSPELLED. SHUSHING.
That umbrella is inded evil because I could've gotten it
Ah yes, my favourite DND alignment. Shushing Light Scholar-
heheh ~shusing~
WHEIWOEWOEOEO I KEEP LOSING IT AT THIS IMAGE
The umbrella is evil because it's been 2 years and we still don't have another umbrella. /hj
yknow what, yall can have the doc link since it's not gonna go on AO3. for context, these skids – Hikemasu and Kiset – were experimenting with darkstone but it got out of hand so Hikemasu killed Kiset and absorbed their light to prevent their soul from ascending and being reborn. as a result of being within a single body, Hikey & Kiset's lights are trying to merge: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r4bp7bC8pc2TLaFgdHUzl0_M_f-L7qKg65EFvM3Dd_k/edit?usp=sharing
theres two stories in this doc. the relevant story is "Quislings." the other one, "Hikemasu sang" is incomplete.
REAL
days of summer umbrella ily but not for $20 💔💔💔💔
Well everyone it was awesome chatting with yall, this is an awesome community and I'm happy to be part of it ^w^
Goodnight! I need to get some rest hope to chat tomorrow!
WOOOOOOOOOOOO LITERATURE 


SO MANY WORDS NEED TO LOOK AT THEM ALL
chat has been fed with fic excerpt, I have already read it and it’s genuinely one of my favorites it’s so good
Oh wow, I do have oc's who got obsorbed into one another as well
I call merged Sky kids a cluster
I'll give it a read when I can
Alasdair's fics my beloved.
it's ~2200 words so it's not that long imo
I think my favorite is a tie between Fealty and the valley elders one because both really hit close to home in different ways on the topic of disability.
Fealty isn't even done but the Valley Elder(s) fic is on AO3: https://archiveofourown.org/works/40284843
"We are one and I am two" shaped the way I see the Valley elders tbh, this liminal quality of theirs is exquisite.
Salem actually suggested the idea to me cos Hikemasu killing Kiset was something that happened but idk for a while what Hikemasu did with Kiset's soul. I actually found the idea incredibly intriguing, how Hikemasu & Kiset avoided merging their lights then the person they became when their lights did finally merge, who calls themself Maslon.
Wait what's fealty I'm confused what did the valley elders do
Fealty is a fic Alasdair wrote about Shushing Light Scholar !
It's separate from the Valley elders fic.
the Valley Elder(s) fic is titled "We Are One & I Am Two." I linked to it above.
as Vela said, Fealty is about SLS, but it is currently incomplete and unpublished, though some lorechat lads have seen the draft.
i will also take my leave, ciao for now 
Bye bye iydll!
My head is swimming because I never did well with "two personalities in one body" type fics but funny words from cool author I like go brrrrr 
OOOOH, mine are trying to prevent the merge too, since two cores are trying to gain control at once, it leds to misplaced memory/loss, amensia, etc. One of the cores is the eldest but can't see since it's not the original vessel (they've take out an eye of the original vessel) so they rely on memory to "see"
That's what I've got so far, the younger core is trying rebirth while the eldest refuses, wether they may merge or not is fully undecided 
I have so many unfinished skyfics sitting back in my gallery
Don't let me get started on art.
I love suspension of disbelief and stuff I can't understand but desperately want to understand so guaranteed I will probably reread said pieces of works over and over again until some parts are ingrained into my mind (I can and will recite to you three full paragraphs from a non-sky fic I've read over ten times, have downloaded, and made footnotes of)
I love you sky fics authors exploring the world of sky. Alasdair and I are in a cycle where ze writes an excerpt, I doodle a part I liked, and ze adds details to hir fics inspired by that, never before have I enjoyed mutual inspiration across different storytelling medias like this.
every time I get Vela fanart I do happy flappy or crack up laughing, they're gold
Here's me eating pizza with their oc
I love how the table is just... non-existent
I feel bad for derailing the topic away from lore so have something that can be considered a headcanon.
AWWEFSDRTFJVSDYFVSDJFVSDGJFG 


that's really interesting. I find it quite neat how, in regards to memory, the opposite are actually happening with Kiset & Hikemasu – while their lights are merging, they recall things that had happened to the other's past. they also feel each other's feelings and emotions. they start confusing themselves with each other, are unsure who experienced what, their identities are confused. this worsens by the fact that they have spent almost two years in the same body, so Kiset experiences everything that happens to Hikemasu and feels like their own, even though they are in Hikeymasu's body.
when their souls ultimately do finally merge, the person they become – Maslon – feels everything that had happened to the two as their own, though aware that those experiences belonged to those two. Maslon's personality is also a merge between what Kiset & Hikemasu were.
this all considers the thought that light in Sky is encoded with memory and selfhood. every being of light's soul is also light – whatever happens to their light affects one's personality, identity, and memory.
YEAH I LOVE THIS IDEA BECAUSE IT GIVES A MEANING TO THE CYCLE;
Light sent down to the kingdom to experience life, bringing back what they learned to the stars.
It's also kinda how I rationalize the possibility of light creatures preying on other light creatures (Angler character card mentions they fish), ultimately the end goal atop the mountain is the same, but perhaps larger creatures are that big because they amassed more light somehow. Smaller creatures would flee in an effort for the memories in their body to last a big longer before fusing with light.
I have a dialogue I wrote musing on the idea but idk what in it censored
I think that it includes all light creatures besides sky kids, since we seem to be the only light creature able to ascend
this is a dialogue I wrote musing on the idea. here Hikemasu (H) has just told their friend Vuxor (V) about their predicament
V: if it’s so difficult having Kiset inside you, why not just let them go?
H: I can’t let them go.
V: you won’t.
H: I won’t. I can’t. Both – we’ve been… like this for too long, so long. I can’t always distinguish between my light and Kiset’s light. We’re not one in the same but if I’m not careful and let our lights merge, I don’t think there would be much distinction between Kiset and Hikemasu anymore.
V: hmm. So you’re stuck like this?
H: somewhat. Rain told me that if I were to ascend, Megabird could pull Kiset out of my inner light. It’s happened before – light creatures consuming each other, ancestors absorbing spirits’ light to survive precarious situations. That’s what the Tearful Light Miner did for their companions, sheltering the spirits’ light within them after they died. It doesn’t matter what happens to the light. What’s most important is that it ascends to the Light. There, Megabird could and has separated merged beings of light no matter how long they’ve been together.
it's not that the individual doesn't matter, it's just what is more important is that their light ascends to the Light. their light has their memories and experiences, which matters the most to Megabird/the Light
I think that's what I was going with as well, not sure if I explained it well, the vessel is younger so they have experienced memories of things far ahead of the second core, while the second core has lived for thousands of years without rebirth, even when the cores sees the memory of the Prairie fields from the vessel, somewhere they haven't been to in hundred of years, it almost considers rebirthing (which is why they need to control the vessel, their body will eventually become faded/weak which is why it went to look for a host)
The vessel is rebirthing as an attempt to seperate the cores & perhaps give the second core chance. Also temporary they are overpowered as a result, which causes long periods of hibernations
There is something beautiful with how yours eventually merge though, I like it 
I just got excited when I saw a similar idea 
that does sound close to what's happening with Hikemasu & Kiset. they're within one vessel, Hikemasu's body, so Hikemasu has natal control over it. however since Kiset's inner light is merging with Hikey's, Kiset does have some influence over Hikemasu's body and what they can say. there's no time difference though since Kiset & Hikemasu are part of the Original Eight, so they're the same age.
rebirth can separate the two into fresh bodies, which is why Hikemasu has avoided Eden. they don't want Kiset to be free.
why does lore discussion always happens in my sleep time 💤
Ikr
from the same dialogue
H: you have no idea what they’ve been doing to me this whole time.
V: Kiset is conscious?
H: everything I see, they see. Everything I hear, they hear. Everything I feel, they feel. Everything I know, they know. They’re listening to our conversation right now.
V: not that they got a choice, it sounds.
H: You think I have a choice either? I hear all their thoughts. I have all their memories – I have to remind myself that I haven’t experienced what they have. I feel their impulses and emotions, when they’re angry with me, when something catches their interest, when they want to sing.
V: so you’ve been singing.
H: sometimes their light overwhelms me. They talk to me, I argue with them, they try taking control of my body. Their thoughts run alongside mine. I can’t always control my appearance because they want to project their hair or clothes. It’s been so damn hard keeping their light separate from mine, to stay me, but our light is so fluid and keeps flowing into each other. Sometimes I can’t tell which is me and which is Kiset.
Yes yes, if they rebirth they will be put into a newr body 
When Hikemasu obsorbed Kiset, does it cause any damage to the body?
It doesn't sound like it since the way you described the process doesn't sound as gnarly (I think)
I can't explain into detail how Shams (the core) & Badir(the vessel) merged but it did leave a gnarly scar on the face of where the eye is supposed to be, since it was a forced merge
it's covered most of the time unless Shams wants to "see"
I have mused with the possibility that one could hold other souls within one's body safely. to do so would require a large degree of mastery over light, able to manipulate it and read it excellent, perhaps what a lightseeker may be capable of. they could pull light cores in and out of their bodies without confusing their selfhoods. unfortunately, Hikemasu does not have that training.
Are you reading my mind I THINK SO TOO
I feel like I'm ascending with you
is that an oxygen mask
Yeah but instead of oxygen it's whatever Alasdair and Dark got going on.
genius
Hikemasu killing Kiset was gnarly. after basically destroying Kiset's body in a swordfight (darkstone swords can damage skykid shells), Hikemasu held Kiset's soul core in their hands and was just sobbing. currently undecided whether Hikemasu absorbed Kiset's light intentionally, but Kiset's light ended up within Hikemasu's body and it just messed them up for a while.
this is from "Hikemasu sang," which is linked above. this excerpt specifically takes place some days after Hikemasu absorbed Kiset's light. Vela drew this illustration (though I changed some details after they finished it, sorry) showing how during that time, Hikemasu & Kiset's appearances were overlayed.
both intentionally and unintentionally, Kiset's light began competing with Hikemasu's over control of the body. Hikemasu does have natal advantage, but it sure was a fight. Kiset likes to sing, so Hikemasu was singing with two voices. Hikemasu also couldn't control their cape well at first since they had Kiset's winged light that was more attuned to Kiset.
I genuinely think spirit carry memories are a similar example of this, we're shepherding a memory core externally rather than internally, although obsorbing it is impossible for us, but an Ancestor may be able to, maybe
it seems souls as light cores can move on their own given how they zoom around to Elder temples at times. perhaps a soul that had been petrified is more disoriented, especially since they're lacking some of their memories that build their selfhood, hence why skykids need to guide them. a soul core that hadn't been afflicted with darkness or had been made whole again by reuniting the light from spirit memories does seem conscious and mobile on it's own.
Oc lore? 
considering that light seems to be encoded with memory, that souls are also light, and light could flow freely within and merge with each other – what would happen to the individuals when light breaks the boundaries separating beings from one another?
Dark and I have OCs musing on this topic. they've been microwaved so bad
AHHAHSJAHDHSJSH cool!/gen
Ooh the merge, the way you described it is 👌
If I could write a thousands compliments I would, belive me
Meanwhile Shams ||ripped their core out and forced it onto Badir's eye|| Badir had been passed out for awhile from the blow, when they woke to, there we're already sluggishly walking through somewhere they're unfamiliar with, they've been actually passed out for years. They halted the moment they fully regained consciousness, then began a back & forth scream off match
I'm still not really sure what their relation to each other was once though, I'm a bit stumped but I'm not necessarily a writer anyway
What's that theory about?
thank you you so much. and, wow, that's dope as hell – handling their own core sounds metal. I'm a big fan of body horror and not only does this idea have ripe potential for it. Hikemasu killed Kiset by ||slashing up Kiset's body with their sword until it wasn't physically capable of holding itself together due to extinguished flame||.
a thing in my ficverse's descendant era is the dissolution of the Original Eight – the first eight skykids born in the world. they were all very close friends, even referred to each other as siblings, but their personal and interdependent issues boiled over and they all faced some sort of tragedy as a result. three are canonically dead, including Kiset. Hikemasu & Kiset's stories are closely interlinked to the point where they ceased to exist together, when their lights fully merged to form Maslon.
Shams & Badir don't have to have a deeply entwined backstory like Kiset & Hikey do – maybe Shams was desperate and just attacked the first skid they judged to be a capable host. it does not have to be too deep, just you gotta pass it off to make sure it works.
what would happen to the individuals when light breaks the boundaries seperating beings from one another
Do you mean that inviduals/creatures that were once merged & were somehow were seprated by rebirth or other means?
just mentioned the tl;dr here: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Aah you're right! I just got the idea that it would be more interesting if they gave eachother the chance to learn more about one another while being in the same body over the course of their internal battle, they can see each other's memories after all
I mean how I'm questioning what would happen to the selves, the persons, when their light that holds the foundation for their existence combines with each other. so Hikemasu and Kiset have their own light, which had been held separate from each other within their two bodies, experiencing and thinking as individuals. their bodies were their vessels keeping them separate. when Kiset's light, encoded with Kiset's soul, entered Hikemasu's body, there was nothing stopping their light from flowing and merging into each other, combining Hikemasu and Kiset's souls and everything that made them themselves, destroying their sense of individuality.
the only reason they have remained as two souls within one body when their light naturally wants to flow into each other has been, simply put, through sheer will. they're trying to keep their lights separate to maintain their individuality. but with no tangible boundaries keeping their light apart, their light continues to combine and confuse their sense of selves. when they give up and fully merge, their light is shuffled together like a deck of cards and virtually indistinguishable, creating Maslon.
Ah yes yes! I just realized it was TL;DR to our conversation 
I sorta think of it like fusion in Steven Universe, where the Gems' bodies can merge and compound into a whole new individual, "an experience." the difference is that the Gems' cores, their gems, remain separate and maintain the individuals that compose the fusion. Gems can split easily. because souls are also light, the souls will merge too, erasing said individuality. light souls cannot split easily.
So like, those horrifying forced fusions ?
The amalgamations
There’s the same thing in Undertale too, same name as well.
yea, in a way. I think the forced fusions are closer to what Hikemasu & Kiset's current state is as partially merged and incapable of separating. there are still two soul cores within Hikemasu's body, they're just so utterly entwined that they cannot be separated without divine intervention. Maslon is when those two souls finally and completely fused into one soul.
this is Vuxor (V) and Maslon (M) speaking
V: I still wanted Hikemasu and Kiset to exist as themselves.
M: hmm, they would not exist as themselves even if they separated, as do faded skykids who were reborn. Kiset wanted to merge to experience it, but they were afraid of losing themself more than what they already were in Hikemasu. Meanwhile, Hikemasu’s regret, combined with Kiset’s guilt, was eating them, torturing them. All they’ve done fighting their consciousnesses to remain two only felt more and more in vain as their thoughts flowed into each other, becoming indistinguishable. Merging freed them both not just from the inevitable but their own emotions.
I’d never really thought of this but its a really cool idea 
arguably parts of the individuals in the forced fusions still existed within them, whereas Hikemasu & Kiset do not when their souls merged to become Maslon's soul
Worry no more, for your gallant bot in a shining white cape has arrived! Tis I, Skybot! I am here!
this is so ironic cos Hikemasu, Kiset, and Maslon all have white capes
Huh!
part of what I was writing earlier
Vuxor wasn’t sure what to call the skid that was laying in front of them. A moth? They didn’t look like a moth, but they were – from what Vuxor understood – new. Not brand new, not with that white cape still shimmering tucked comfortably around them, their long hair that spilled over the floor of the cave, their mask like tarnished silver glistening in the firelight. Two black voids in their mask for their shut eyeslid. Stretched out laid on their side, they snored quietly.
it's only been a few days since Kiset & Hikemasu merged. Vuxor still doesn't know Maslon's name
btw Maslon's name has aspects of Hikemasu and Kiset's names. also both Maslon and Kiset are two syllables long. yet the lon in Maslon is meant to indicate that they are their own person, more than what Hikey and Kiset had been
Btw, i’m designing a Lightseekers-influenced skykid band rn 
Sorry I don’t really have much to say on what you’re working on Alasdair. I think the concept of skykid “fusions” is super neat though 
rn Kiset + Hikemasu = Maslon is the only one, though I really liked Dark's interpretation of the idea. it cool seeing another creative on the similar wavelength
Their names are Shams (sun, شمس) & Badir (full moon, بدر) so the sun swallowed the moon, some sort of eclipse
Also I'm glad you do, I'm always a little scared/shy to share my ideas
Thats actually so clever???? Dark you’re a genius 
eats this lore nom nom nom
yea that's ingenious. it's like those two are literally an eclipse. tbh Maslon was the only name I curated with intention. Kiset I got from random gen while Hikemasu had been sitting in my character name pile for a while
I wish i had a better origin for my sky oc names, they’re either random or named after breeds of specific animals (depends but usually bulls for Reasons) and i wish i could say their names had more meaning
thinking about making a sky version of my main xiv character
I get that – you never know how you'll be recieved then there's that fear someone will steal your ideas. I've found that quite a few of the lorechat lads have ficverses and OCs, often inspired by how we've been musing with Sky lore, and we relish in each other's ideas.
i tried writing An Fanfiction™️ but it didnt turn out well id probably only do drabbles or other shortfics if i started again
I really want to share my ideas with ya’ll more but i’m always worried it’s gonna be considered off topic because its not the Right Up There Canon if that makes any sense???
I personally think it's better to start with drabbles/short fics instead of trying to tackle a 100k slowburn fanfic
I usually write dialogue or sceneraions for drawings (that I will definitely get around to, definitely)
Every time i try to write something it always just sounds bad 
i have some friends who write great fics
it'll sound bad to you, which is either imposter syndrome or you know writing and words well enough to see the flaws in your craft, which also means you have the potential to improve your writing with editing
It's amazing to see the brainstorming & everyone's brains aliging 
Should’ve told me earlier, wrote a 25k word serious fanfic
True true
ill have to give it a try again Soon 
Well in my experience unfortunately I can't focus on writing long paragraphs without being distracted & introducing something completely unrelated, hats off to you
the problem i have with ocs is that i usually end up making them self inserts but i am a lot of things and so they end up changing a lot
people say I write really well but I still struggle with my internal editor and feel like all writing I make is crap. brain bad
I’ve never done self inserts… i think im just really inconsistent with telling ppl their lore
Also honestly??? I think people think my ocs are just straight up ugly sometimes 
(grabs my brain and shakes it like it owes me lunch money)
I'm not sure how to tell you, a lot of characters I create or even HCs hold at least a little part of me, it fleshes things out
Ash jumpscare
I think someone in fanart sketch chat straight up said one of them looked terrifying 
hi 
tbh i hear often from writers who give talks is that their characters all gain a little piece of themselves or people they're close to, it helps em feel more real and like fleshed out people! the more characters you make the better youll get honestly too. dont be afraid to just craft and make characters 
i had a group of friends i played with sky with and we all had a group of ocs... i havent talked to any of them in a while but i should find the document again
if you're having fun creating thats honestly what matters most i think
the two protagonists for my main skykid story started as a self-insert, but they eventually split into two distinct characters who have diverged both from each other and myself. likewise, every writer will tell you that they leave bits of themselves in most of their characters. it is difficult to separate the self from the writing.
besides, there's nothing wrong with writing self-inserts. the whole Mary Sue cliché is frankly overhyped. if the story works with you in it, that doesn't take away from it's quality
My fic actually doesn’t have much long paragraphs, it’s moreso a string of short paragraphs, like 1-2 sentence lines
I have a semblance of a plot planned for my ocs but i never really carried it out
or, put it to paper so to speak?
i think id struggle with like making a universe around the people but id be content if someone else liked an idea i made and did something with it
if you're ever interested in learning how to craft characters, you could see if favorite writers you enjoy have online talks or resources on how they craft theirs, and the thought processes they go through when creating
Ty for the advice ^^
Yes yes, but my thought process tends to be all over the place, it just seems that short little drabbles worked for me, while that has worked for you 🤝
The million dollar question "how much suffering can I pour into this fella?"
yea, that's something I've been taught as I got my BFA and pursing my MA in Creative Writing – observe what your favorite writers are doing. try to emulate them. take the bits you like from their writing. play around with craft elements. if you like it, they're doing something right, and you are free to make them your own
I seldom have a thought when making characters tbh
Using emulators is against the Sky TOS, @frigid tinsel. Please don’t use or discuss emulators here.
sometimes what makes people claim "this character feels unrealistic" is because the stakes dont match the character or their reasonings/backstory perhaps could support it better yanno? like superman in mundane situations feels overpowered "sue" but superman fighting against evil alien monster overlord etc, the stakes match better haha
Someone get the “silence, bot” image
yeah! researching and finding out what it is that you enjoy from your favorite creators, and why it is you enjoy X trait can help you personalize your style a little bit as well. take little bits as an ingredient but then put your own spin on it and make it a totally unique cake that you've made
are we talking about writing 
yooo 
Yes!
I know that a tip make balanced characters with flaws that make sense is to have every quality come with a matching flaw; an assertive character could have trouble trouble trusting other folks with decisions, and a passive character could be a good listener !
or put them in situations where a characteristic often seen as positive could become a negative.
pulls up google docs dear god i have a lot of unfinished stories
Ty for this i’m gonna snatch this

Amander
I’m just drawing rn so i can actually Tell you guys about this lovely Lightseeker band
just like art, character creation and design is smth thats trained overtime, ive had some characters for five years now and ohhh my god theyve changed so much <3 funny guys from my brain
.the four winds of greek myth are a recurring theme in my oc creation might as well get something going here
Crying over how to shape a mushroom rn/j
Amander is stubborn – on one hand, they won't stop pursuing something that comes in their way, determined to overcome their adversaries, to fulfill their goal. on the other hand, there are times when they really should have stopped. part of why they get hurt so much.
That reminds me of how I see everyone's style, a collection of our experiences and tastes, forever a work in progress. We're a patchwork of everything that made us the way we are.
ok bye im gonna go write myself

my original WIP started when I was 11yo, but what is it now is almost unrecognizable. it got more queer as I discovered and embraced myself
(scurries off to picrew website)
picrews so useful when you can't draw and want to set a character's appearance down
And useful when you want to draw your friend's oc !
i keep using the abyss pants in all my ocs help
Naihho my beloved
Abyss pants rocks. this is one of Perse’s alt designs
About names, I usually just pick a word that essentially describes the character's theme in one word & just find an Arabic equivalent of it
On the other hand, it doesn't need to be that deep, I've had an OC named Pip/Pipe because they carry a large pipe, that's it
It's so cool to look at everyone's sky OC because they not only show how they view Sky, but also are a bit of themselves exploring that world.
Even without meaning it I apparently put bits of myself in my own characters 
one of my favorites of yours. I love how you've taken care to draw Naihho's hair so well
I want to add, if you're going to use a different language for names, be mindful of the original origin of the word & the significance to its culture, Arabic is my native tongue so it comes naturally to me 
I named my oc Zemm because i showed my friend a drawing of their head (too lazy to do their body at the time) and they said this
ended up making a wizard that may or may not be a lightseeker Oopsies
Names are fun 👍
they arent always crying like the mask suggests but their eye is just Like That™️
I like to think Skykids would have a bunch of silly name from languages all over the world (kind of a mix between in-universe and in-game POVs tbh) since the game wants them to be a community despite their differences.
Seashell meets Coquillage :]
JDHDJFHF
I’ve been thinking abt mass renaming my ocs but i feel like itd be hard to train myself to use the new names and also be Confusing
yea, that's something I hadn't taken care to do in the past but I do now. some names have deep cultural meanings that make it so they can't just be placed onto a random character simply cos it "sounds nice." other names may have meanings that are not translated well across languages – looking at American Indian names on baby names websites.
I even put my nonsense names into a websearch in case it does actually exist somewhere. though sometimes it surprises me, like with Fitir.
i dont remember who i was talking to that had the group of skykids over the lake but i want to make my idea for my character from that as well
that was me! The crab mask tribe :)
You make me want to rename my skykids (again) with words from my own language but I'm horribly picky with names because I use nouns that fit the vowel-consonant alternation you get from randomly generated names ingame. One of my OCs has a moth named Pinecone 
We actually got a recurring joke with my friends where we go "× is a valid skykid name" when we think of a word that alternates between vowels and consonants.
Examples: Potato, Cicada, Joker, Felony, Lotus...
it's cool to take words or names and change a letter or syllable to make it an unique-sounding name. Amander came from Amanda, Aarizon came from Horizon, Tomatoá came from Tomato
ANAHAHSGDHF
Valid troll names
I hate that I got the reference.
All thought left my body, SILENCE.
Gonna singlehandedly switch the topic to homestuck again 
that was a homestruck reference?
AARIZON MY BELOVED
I did hear nothin'
Love em… omg…..
Chieftain Aarizon, my lightseeker OC.
Vela had a major hand in their design.
Oooh cool!
Aarizon has a major grip on my heart 💙
WAGH got distracted drawing some cats let me backread
Oh very random but the crab tribe i’ve talked about has a chief and they like Frogs a lot
Aarizon shuts down Degonime
They can make frogs out of light with their hands like how Prairie elder can make butterflies

I was about to say, some of the names I've picked up (or had as a placeholder) are literal translations of some words, like Performance's literally means "hunger/desire" (for perfection) even though it's not actually a name, it doesn't exist
Sh'ahwan (شهوان) but I just shorten it to Shahn/Sharis
I want to utilize Hebrew too but I barely remember it from when I was young
Dawned on me how I'm missing out just because I don't live in the right areas, it's so cool you could learn Hebrew !
This was satisfying to read 
Aw that mask is so cool
Are they dressed like a lily pad?
IM MAD I MISSED THE DISCUSSION ABOUT ABSORBING OTHER PEOPLE/CREATURES LIGHTS BECAUSE ITS GENUINELY ONE OF MY FAVORITE HEADCANONS. I like to imagine that’s how elder creatures happen, so the massive whales and elder mantas you see are several different consciousnesses in one body, like a super downsized Megabird
Fun fact: Magirinu kills Degonime
Owned
Thank you for your service
Kinda! Its not really a final thing but yes their hat is like a lilypad. Also their mask is based on the one from Provoking performer but its kinda hard to draw so i omitted a lot of the details for it.
Yeah exactly! Especially the ghost manta at lvl5 of Vault kind of looks like a manta centipede or sea slug 
I was thinking of using a pointy mushroom instead cus i want to go for a more “witch” esque theme with them. A light witch 
However also lotus plants are important to the tribe on many levels so idk which route im gonna go 
Gmorning lore chat, what's the topic? 
Words
A witch hat that’s just a giant lotus bud and it blooms when they start doing Magic
Also a bunch of diff ocs and headcanons and whatnot
Worldbuilding
YEAH THAT EXACT CREATURE IS WHAT INSPIRED IT FUNNILY ENOUGH.
I was also thinking, what if there was a religious offshoot (either before disaster with ancestors or post disaster with skykids) that saw absorbing and merging with other beings light as holy… if that’s what creatures do I can totally see itn
OKOK this is super messy and I think i want to redraw it digitally so I can have a cleaner version but these two are members of That Band. Their names are Ayla and Zemm
I haven’t been able to figure out what instrument i want for Ayla since she’s more energetic (maybe a lute?) and Zemm is a flautist
Ohhh man i want Zemm’s gender
KSKSKHSJSJSJSB yes he’s epic
Ayla is like. Pretty energetic and goofy. Also she’s always very late to Everything
The buns on her hair are like lil mushrooms she found and put on top of existing hair buns and she was like “oh this is cool i like this”
Ooo I love those clothing
(She would probably get along with Mellow Musician VERY WELL honestly???)
Zemm is really uptight i think… he’s kinda like a foil to Ayla idk
He would be ready for a rehearsal at 5 am (the rehearsal is at 3 pm)
For some reason, I immediately thought of Gratitude
The band normally plays for Light creatures rather than a Skykid audience. It’s kind of like how Doublefive Lightseeker and their friend gather Light
OHHHHH like when people play instruments for cows
I have never seen that before. Brb
Good day/night lore chat 
Although that doesn't make sense, the pendant design
for a moment looks like two beings in one, but I just think that's my awake-at-unreasonable-hour-brain speaking
THATS SO CUTE AUGH
Honestly yeah i see what you mean on that, sounds abt right.
If gratitude counts as part of this offshoot, I would assume they fused with animals (bc they all have animal masks) instead of other ancestors. Which is hilarious because it brings up the mental image of everyone else learning about their beliefs and always immediatley going “isn’t that just being a furry with extra steps?”
Maybe creatures merging was seen as holy, but not Ancestors merging (Wait that's just Garnet's backstory)
Ancestor fursuits
Prophecy spirits also have animal masks i think imo they really don't look like animals though, they look more like...disfigured /j
I hate that turtle mask so much
Maybe it’s because to merge with another ancestor, the person you’re merging with would have to die so you can get their soul. Kinda like how animals eating other animals is fine but when people eat each other it’s looked down upon
You are a coward, the prophecy masks are amazing, especially the turtle and ult masks. Never speak to me again /j
But basically its like a functional thing cus i think enough Light creatures gathering together would cause the kind of Light that’s harvestable by hand (kind of) to coalesce into existence. And generally speaking members of their tribe are supposed to bring light back home to offer up to their chief (that light magician skykid) so they can Feed the Lake for reasons
had to eat dinner back to picrewing
Only the ult is beautiful smh, the air prophet mask...it's supposed to be a lion...right?
Wait or was that fire i forgot, did air even have a mask
It’s a bat 
The fire prophet mask is a lion
YOU LEAVE MY BESTIE WITH THE GARGOYLE BAT MASK ALONE, THEY ARE PERFECT THE WAY THEY ARE /j
Oof, sniped
But yeah, that would be it, it would be looked down upon unless it was an unbelievably urgent situation
Although I think merging wouldn't always easily work, it depends on the resolve of both parties, in some cases it would cause an extreme split & both dying
Ah yeah, i felt like something was off since the cape was supposed to be a bat. Season of prophecy feels like an eternity ago 
All the prophecy masks are cool 👍 if u disagree prophecy guide will ratio you on twitter dot com
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE PROPHET ONE, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW AIR'S LOOKED LIKE 😭 😭 😭
i imagine that the hat is larger than shown here (the fish and the shell are things they found in the water maybe? idk)
it would be looked down upon unless it was an unbelievably urgent situation
Looks at tearful light miner with mischief in my eyes
Jokes on them, i have no twitter.
I was referencing the Light Miner too, lol 
looks at you looking at tearful light miner with mischief in your eyes
Yo can i have the link for this picrew??? I wanna try it.
Also @cloud mulch based tbh
I am so glad both of us looked at them and wanted to turn them into people soup.
But seriously jokes aside, this is one of my headcanons that I Never got the chance to talk about bc it’s so weird/out there to most people, and I am super glad I finally can because it’s one of my favorites
Alasdair mentioned that earlier, I think
It’s this: https://picrew.me/image_maker/1535731
I use it a lot cos it has every cosmetic
Krill came from microwaved manta soup
Yup, Salem started the idea of light beings merging with Tearful Light Minerabsorbing their dying companions’ light
I feel like i missed a very interesting conversation 
Gonna adjust my sleep schedule so im awake at 4am instead of 1am 
YES I WAS GOING TO MENTIOJ THIS. basically my headcanon on krills is that they arise from a bunch of drained (from refineries) manta corpses piled on top of each other to dispose of them. With very little light remaining, they instinctively stsrt to merge with the others around them, but as they do the corruption also forces their consciousnesses apart — instead of working together with ease like the elder light creatures do, they’re constantly fighting and always hungry for the light that will separate them.
Oh man I was thinking the same too when I thought of it, characters merging or seperating as a form ot taruma response/bonding is not unheard of in media, but in Sky's case I thought it was just this deep edgy "im 14 and this is deep" idea that would never fit into the theme of the game
But I'm glad today the stars aligned for this opportunity 
I love when I put down a headcanon of mine and watch my writer friends descend on it like a flock of vultures,
it happened with one that I don’t think I can mention yet and it was amazing
I feel like themes of loss and corruption of the self do fit a game about the cycle of life that wants to go beyond the hero's journey, as through each life we are bound to change, never remain the same.
YEAH THIS IS WHAT I THINK TOO, I’m worried I’m being too edgy sometimes (the krill headcanon I mentioned above is a big contender) but have been getting more confident recently and also. I am no longer scared of being edgy if the headcanon in question is aLso super cool
Also I think it would be funny if zemm’s shroom hat got stolen by an elderbird once. Like it has to happen someday 
Rule of cool trumps edginess.
EXTRMEELY TRUE, I repeat that to myself with so many headcanons
Theres nothing too edgy in sky as long as season of shattering exists to torment my soul, so go free with your theories, i like reading newer theories 
I have an OC who gets sharded really bad — destroyed their flame. Was considering the other protag absorbs their friend’s light to protect them but still working out the mechanisms of how a skykid would function with a destroyed flame in order to decide if that’s necessary. They wouldn’t be together as long as Maslon, but it’s one of those attempts at assuaging the trauma they face.
oh no is that what you’re doing to Amander
The alternative is that Naihho carries them, sharing their flame
Anyways i should probably go work on stuff and also candle run at somepoint
I hope to share more stuff abt ayla and zemm (and other members of their little band) soon 
Byebye!
What is it about this oc that inevitably makes you decide to commit so much violence against them
Tgc: a new lore season!
The season: Let's scatter some random creature 3D models in an empty black mirror room
i may be cringe but i am free
one aesthetic (if you can call it that) that always gets me is when someone gets taken over/corrupted by some evil force and forced to fight theyre friends but theyre crying because like theyre watching themself hurt their friends and auuuuuuaaaaaaa
About that, originally Shams was a dying core (flame, in that case) so they had to be rebirthed with the help of the vessel(, working together instead of against each other) but that caused a lot of complications, such as temporary paralysis throughout the body, slurred speech etc,
It could eventually corrupt the vessel because the core is desperately clinging into the source trying to remain alive & not fade to disappear
i have a lot of thoughts and emotions
Context: how Amander gets physically wrecked:
–split in half by krill in dark water ocean
–impaled on corrupted darkstone
–breaks their foot escaping The Carver
–stabbed/cut by Hikemasu’s sword
–shard hits their flame
Yooouchhh
The game also likes to commit considerable violence against Amander whenever Alasdair is dressed up on them. I don’t know why or how but a shard spawned on top of them the other day and that’s part of the reason #5 happened in the first place
NOOO LOL
Yea
Ft. Salem the cat and Vela with background music
I’m the cat mask btw
Red suits you, Amander
it sends me how you can hear me play astronomica from within the big shard
Creatur
That was a really weird day in general especially with the sunbather incident
What did Sunbather do, are they following around kids again 
It was so wild I had to upload it to YouTube: https://youtu.be/RpkVKcckP7U
Just what I thought 💀
TLDR: we were at geyser when sunbathers carry circle teleported to us out of seemingly nowhere. We kept trying to guide it to the ocean to get rid of it but either a moth picked it up and brought it back or it came back on its own somehow. It lasted like 5 minutes
Yeah that used to be a bug before all spirits were introduced to be permanently available, Sunbather would just stick to you & never leave, unless you left the area, like a gum to your shoe
There is this unexplained thing where a memory spirit would just be drawn to you for apparently no reason
Sunbather likes us because we're gay.
They want to gossip
Chill Sunbather I would grill with you any day, just not during geyser 😭
hatsune miku skykid
Spade summoned them
Sunbather heard I was recently crowned the grill king and wanted a nice chat
They no longer call him the grill king in college 😔 /ref
I remember way back when I was all the way at the Vault elevator while folks were in the middle of a Director relive, Director really wanted to be with me that day, I felt bad stripping those players of their progress so I brought them back over
You got adopted and you turned it down?? Smh
I bet their return as TS was tense for you
I wouldn't survive a day under their roof
Not sure if this is considered spoilers so I’m putting it here, but is sky coming to PlayStation?
It was announced in #news just recently, yes
sassy four incoming <3
You wouldn't see it well but I am grabbing them, this is old as heck, 2020
I forgot about the no embed thingy
Sky's gonna get ported to PS before they decide to make a PC port I stg
mood
tgc pls give us sky rtx on the game deserves it
i would complain about accessibility but most people have a mobile so it's a moot point
Oh god please not rtx I despise that gimmick with all my soul
As the owner of an Xbox I think PC port will happen long before Xbox gets a chance
but it's likely due to the control scheme
Sky on da Samsung Fridge
all the platforms so far have a similar control scheme with the controllers and whatnot
converting to MnK would be difficult and they cant just say "ok pc port but u need a controller"
I’ve been playing Sky with my Xbox controller connected via Bluetooth to my phone. Some buttons need remapped but otherwise it’s good so far
The only somewhat difficult part would be making controls remappable but otherwise there shouldn't be any problems adapting controller to Kb+M (I say this as a gamedev btw)
I mean, of course there's a possibility adding control settings conflicts with some old piece of code that just so happens to break the entire game, it happens a lot when adding new features to old stuff, but still
ive been thinking about mnk controls
standard wasd to move, mouse to look around
space to jump, hold to boost. shift? to switch flight modes?
left click on buttons, sky's a point and click adventure. right click to honk?
tab? to open expression menu?
istg they better hurry up with a pc version, my phone is dying day by day 
my phone is 4 years old idk how it's gonna survive much longer
i think youll b good for a bit more mine is like. 6? 7????ish yrs old still runs sky somehow
slaps top of phone
this bad boy can survive sky for years
The realization that my tablet is probably older than some Sky players is making me want to lay down for a while
im surprised one that old can even run it
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but was there a time when the seasonal spirits didn't have names 
(Idk where to ask this question)
yeah actually
don’t remember exactly when but like. A while ago they didn’t rlly have names n stuff
also
deet icon 👀
They did, from the start in gratitude they had names similar to other spirits
Didn’t none of the spirits have actual names at one point? Like they were just referred to as “confetti spirit” or “shush spirit” by the community until like enchantment idk
no, they had actual names, similar to basegame spirits, like confetti cousin and sparkling light scholar
Wait, really?? I swear there was an update at one point that added the names 
I think it was always like that, let me check
Wait I'm not sure
if you search spirits and sort by old you get TS stuff, so maybe they were added only as TSes?
we may need to contact a living fossil. an ancient relic. someone older than even me. i dont know
there was im p sure
like if you look back in past chats there’s some messages of folks saying that seasonal spirits have names now n wondering what the rest r n stuff
The weird statue in the Prairie village disappeared
It never got utilized so it got removed, 
But there’s another weird thing that appeared to take it’s place
I'm far from the oldest but yes! I believe I remember there being update around Sanctuary? I think? Where they were given names, beforehand, iirc they were indeed nameless at first !
I found this a couple days ago. It feels like it has something to do with candles?
ah that's the mushroom ring clock if i'm remembering right
it is weird how they just removed the statue in the middle island though. it never really did anything, yeah? i wonder what its intended purpose was and why it was removed
I have not heard of that
OHH the prairie clock! I could be wrong but I think it’s to indicate the candle reset time in TGCs timezone seeing that its exactly 12
and since its been removed I assume its safe to talk abt, in beta it was originally introduced with something to do with the guiding mechanic, but nothing came of it
at the last ten minutes of every hour, a mushroom ring appears on the side of that island that you're facing. it doesn't do anything, it's just a fun little thing like the rainbow that appears in forest brook.
Oh, cool!
i saw it once and never again 😭
Greetings lore chat, i come with yet another late night fueled discovery of randomness
im just double checking something before i explain
okay so basically if you invert the game colors
very specifically the tainted water looks like how alcohol/oil?i forget which causes it irl looks if its poured on concrete with the weird rainbow effect and everything
i checked the normal water in several places and it doesnt have the same alcohol/oil ish effect (home, treehouse, the area around tainted geyser)
and i just found it interesting, dont know if it'll help with anything lore wise but there it is
i would show screenshots of this but switch doesnt keep pictures taken while inverted, inverted in the camera roll
Even on phone, tried it before
Bobbit 💜
it’s oil that causes the rainbow effect!!
the oil substance is present mostly in wasteland and eden, where there’s also a lot of pipes,, so my theory is that it’s leaked waste product from the light production plants (like the one in abyss)

Spirit names were added during late Enchantment beta to Sanctuary, there were placeholder names at first compiled here by Maelstrom: #beta-screenshots-videos message (*Leads to beta discussion channels)
We didn't have the name of all past seasonal spirits & had to rely on the TS system to eventually uncover them (Sparkler Parent was Belonging Parent at one point)
We had fan names based on the emote/cosmetics they offered, notably guides were once called QG (quest giver)
Is that why Saluting Protector is called Dismiss a lot
Yes!
OHHHH YES I REMEMBER THE QG NAME!! That explains why I don’t remember it, the change happened right before I started seriouslynplaying
Thank you dark for the explanation, have always wondered why certain spirits have different names as well. Weirdly enough,it seems to have even be continued past the change, with bearhug hermit being called yeti for example
The official names tend to be a mouthful, like SLS can just be shortened to just Shush
SLS is less letters than Shush imo
"What's SLS?"
Shushing Light Scholar
The average player wouldn't understand, so it's easier to refer to the emote/cosmetic rather than the name
Depends on the moth tbh
Even saying candlemaker may go over some folks' heads.
The fan names were as simple as "Welcome/Curtsy" "Dance" "Juggler" etc, etc
Quick theory : The music that played while the black shard is here is a lullaby that eden elder or (the light child at dark room) used to hear 
I’m pretty sure that flight paths was Sanctuary before it fell to the earth because they both have chimes and giant manta
Because different seasons take place in different times and generations
But flight paths has a physical gate to Sanctuary, how could they take place in different times?
Seasons take places during different times/generations, but not different timelines
Did you mean to say that Wind Paths is a partially sunken Sanctuary?
Tbf Flight paths also let you go directly to Starlight Dessert so
I think the point being made here is that it is impossible for both to co-exist, we're not timeline hopping
Starlight Desert seems explicity canon to me, even if the things inside it aren't canon to some.
The spirits could be from different time periods but the land we traverse with them isn’t. How the land looks now is what it looked like, or at least close enough, to what it did when the ancestors were alive.
I'm not saying Starlight Dessert isn't canon, I'm arguing that maybe the wind paths currently are the way they are due to gameplay purposes rather than lore
Eh I’m not sure, after all it’s called an “ancient crossroads” by TGC, which means it was used as a place for people of all realms for transport
Idk, having a road that goes very specifically to a possibly pseudo-fictional dessert doesn't seem like the most canon thing, but who knows
Oh no I knew this would happen, Wind Paths aren’t canon because Starlight Desert isn’t or something
It’s possible Starlight Desert wasn’t a desert during the ancestors era
That's a good point actually
TLP can be noncanon but the place itself could be canon; maybe the starlight desert is part of the Golden Wasteland desert
Even if it has little use on its own it would still be useful for easy access to Vault from the other realms
Or even to Eden
I'm NOT saying TLP area isn't canon, it's more because of the purple light and different world theories that suggest Starlight Dessert might not exactly be a 100% real place in-universe (or might be from a different reality)
That said maybe that wind path might've originally be meant for Eden travelers
Edit: Oh well Alasdair said it already
But it’s still there
Purple Light reinforces the idea that Starlight Desert is canon
I'M NOT SAYING IT ISN'T CANON aafssdssdg

I meant purple light reinforces the idea that it’s a real place in-universe, created by the Ancestors
Well, as real as anything the purple light "creates" can be
Oh god realness discussion
Are Skykids real? Is the Vault of Knowledge real? Is the Harmony Hall real? What is reality?
Idk, is the Vault's Archives area real? Is anything we see in the upper floors of Vault real? It's confusing
i thought we were talking abt flight and sanctuary GNDHD i think while spirits can be from different time periods in skys past, the land likely isn’t, I don’t think the two r the same especially since the windpath island is much smaller than sanctuary, rather they have similarities bc they have similar goals and beliefs- but it’s an interesting idea!!
and i think leon was saying windpaths connecting to sanctuary is a wobbly defense for them being different since windpaths connecting to all of the seasonal area from before it could just be a game mechanic and not exactly lore-
Thank you a lot Sink I'm really bad with words and you explained it way better than I
What are those three flying stones with fire flying above the gazebo at Starlight Desert? 
I have a feeling those aren’t supposed to be there 
TGC UR ASSETS 💔
Im not good with flying but when you look through them to the other direction, they change the view just like the those phantom mantas
Asset littering? lmao
I don’t think I’ve ever seen them, but I rarely go to Starlight Desert & based off what Ene said I was probably just looking through the wrong angle
They removed the starlight spiral, but not this
They're really hard to notice from afar, I forgot that it was still there until the screenshot
But the whole Vault tower still exists. The primary argument used by people who think that the upper floors of vault aren’t real is that we see the ruined top part at the very end. Even if some parts of Vault aren’t real, the tower itself is real
I wasn't saying the floors themselves aren't real, I was talking more about what we/our skids see inside those floors
The separation of lore and game mechanic is an extremely contentious one. Does diving have any relevance to Skykid anatomy or is it a game mechanic we should ignore? And does something being a game mechanic mean it can’t be tied to the lore?
hiya lore fans! Slink-a-Dink#3025 asked about having a message pinned to help lore moths get started with loring it up. I wanted to toss it back to community to see if we can all come up with a good lore-primer. There are some boundaries to navigate though:
- concept art doesn't always represent "canon," and may sort of lead to red-herrings
- hard interpretations are generally not given in "official" communication, so I think in trying to introduce new people to lore, we should all strive for the same general approach to accepting open interpretations. (of course each of us can be as specific as we want in our own musings)
- strictly fan-generated lore, even where it's seemingly a direct offshoot and very logical, shouldn't be included in a "lore guide." That's more of something for each of us to explore, and for group discussion to take on unofficially
So please share thoughts about what would make an idea guide for starting out. Here's the post that started the conversation:
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
And p.s. I think I'm looking forward to when this server has "forum" channels because I probably envision this channel and #qnh as being the ideal places to use that format
Forum channels??
oh yeah, forum channels are a new-ish thing on discord. this server doesn't have them yet, but I think it will relatively soon
Well... true some mechanics are less lore based and more for the sake of game progress.
Like spyro the dragon needing to learn to swim before being able to progress and explore new areas.
One thing that may support the case for the lore is how the season allow the skykids to gain strength in some way.
In season of prophecy, the skykid cannot do the trails out of order, as there would be a spirit gate that prevents that. Stating that the skykids is not yet strong enough to do it.
While not every season has this progression for the skykids as the main feature, the way that skykids become more 'resilient', gaining more ways to interact with the spirits and eventually gaining blessings is a noteworthy part of certain seasons (such as assembly letting skykids interact with spirits more, abyss with diving abilities unlocked, or performance with skykids able to be more engaged with the spirits).
Hey Lorechat! Today I have a theory on the Light Seekers and the Assembly!
The Lightseekers were missionaries sent from the Vault after the collapse of the Kingdom as to help and releive any survivors as well as help the Kingdom get back on it's feet. Their first part on the mission, is proved by their tending of the many trees found around the Introductory part of each realm and the Blooming Trees of Days of Bloom. Trees that are seen and still present in the Vault and the one trigerred by the Polite Scholar Memory. They were all sent by the Sushing Scholar, since he seems like the leader of the Group.
The Assembly crew, are also losely tied as an off shoot of the Light Seekers, seen as they have a similar cape (scolding scholar) and are found to have the same color scheme as the beta Light Seekers. The most propable choice is that they're training under the Scholar (since Scholars come from the Vault, which in theory might be helping the reconstruction of sky), and the guide being the main character. Their mission was setting up base, studying, and fixing the Hidden Forest (Baffled Botanist), as we see they not only have a map of their hideouts but also the broken bridge. The reason which I think they were trainees, is that most of them lack capes, the only ones having one being the Scholar and the Guide, who I suspect was a second in command. Their attempts being thwarted by the rain or even a flood.
What do you guys think?
Psst
Oh and @raw crypt, should the new lore basics doc be included? It’s a pretty concise view of the Sky lore
sorry, corrected the link
I originally had it in but decided to take it out with feedback helping that decision, my goal was more to allow people to have quick and easy access to resources and concept art to make their own conclusions instead of a doc saying “here’s what’s up”,
Its meant to be like how a bunch of the earlier pins have concept art links, but with more reason sources like the seasonal posts and streams, I can add a disclaimer to the post that concept art is concepts/unofficial and that these are just for people to have access to these things and not anything solid or wholely ‘canon’
anyone is Chinese?
Sky lore is much more sweeping than many people tend to assume on first playing through. The impulse to simplify, condense, or roadmap all the lore is strong, I'm sure but I think the right balance is somewhere in between a full dump of all known lore, and a very nicely organized guide
What do you mean by sweeping ?
I find that a lot who come here are pretty good at understanding that concept art is not canon, although can be useful in figuring out what the devs had in mind when developing the game or seasons. Given that there are very early concept art in the pins already, it’d be nice to have the stuff that’s been released lately pinned as well, which would be more up to date for newer players and lore moths
Yeah my goal isn’t to roadmap things, I can remove some of the other usermade content, really my goal is to compile links for easier access, it’s not just for lore but for those more interested in just concept art, because there’s a lot out there but it’s unfortunately scattered about several social medias, hope I’m explaining myself well^^
Frankly it would be very useful to not only update what is pinned but have pinned message that compiles all of the stuff TGC has released that’s potentially lore relevant
I gotta agree with everyone here, most of the pinned messages are concept art already, so I don't see the problem with adding more that is likely closer to the current vision of Sky.
The streams and videos are also posted by TGC so it's not like it's fan content either !
credit to Alasdair
True
So yeah, anything redundant in pins can be cleaned up, and yes most people don't need to be told the "rules" of lore. I mentioned points about what should be pinned just so everyone has an idea about why mods might or might not pin specific things or what changes might be requested. And because people here have the best idea what kinds of questions are asked the most by newcomers
For some reason I always thought Vault was an underground realm dug into the mountain and not a tower lol
(Otherwise hi and nice to meet you all, I've been playing Sky for a year but am new to the Discord)
It’s likely an underground tower
Sorry I'm a bit lost with the amount of new lore to absorb, is there a place where you compiled the main theories?
One thing that seemingly comes up over and over again; in the game as well as in the lore chat.
New players join the game, avid players teach them, the game/lore is open and inclusive, however there in less a notable problem.
The players learning about Sky would have varying reactions towards the story being told. Some good, some bad.
The good have been praised and encouraged, while the bad tends to carry on with little to no consequence. A warning here, a censor there and yet when one asks about what would bring the game down. It would be the people that have managed to fly below the radar and would slowly degrade the community.
Like the Darkness in Sky, it is a slow and subtle thing. It is there, though little is done to drive it away.
The lore is either deep, and the community is working hard on learning whay they can about it, as well as share it with new players
Or, the lore is broken and we are just here to waste time playing with the pieces, while trying not to lose temper over bigots or gatekeepers.
Thank you for the explanation
Well I think Vault might have been a university/museum in which plenty of scholars gathered. This building was filled with memory cubes, when Eden exploded, the memory cubes were used to 'rebuilding' the Vault. So practically Vault is made of Stone and Light of the past (memories)
Weirdly enough the first thing that popped into my head is that we'll solve the lore before the creators realise, no matter how less our resources are... I wonder if this sounds weird 
I’m starting to get a little lost sorry, the archive of links is meant to be more of well, an archive, if usermade content feels like it veers to telling the lore one way I can remove those archives (I have removed the moth lore document) but really I just want a way for people to have easy access to more recent concepts similar to how there’s pins for old concepts- If that’s not able to be pinned I don’t quite understand why not at the moment^^;
Is the newer stuff no eligible though ? It's not stuff asking people to believe in something, just devs stating the ideas behind seasons such as the Little Prince vids on twitter.
You could create a key, that shows semi-canon references or completely isolates references. That way people can make out by them selves what they believe and why. 
Anyone knew what this is?
The big “fish” creature? 
I’m not sure that would be possible or assist at all, especially since what concepts and ideas are canon is heavily up to debate, I think it’s best to just leave the concepts as something people can look at and bring into the chat to discuss, which is the current state of the archives links
some call it the whale, some call it an elder manta
I think it's called a ancestor manta but some people call it a whale ^^ I got beat 
I mean it does kinda look like a whale
I always thought it's a hybrid
doing another compilation one moment lol
Season of Shattering Poems
Jellyfish Memory
The light that swirled here was not warm
These were no drifting currents
Songs lost to the void
Bewildered in final moments of stillness
Crab/Plant Memory
Entranced by strange brilliance
And swept into its snare
A familiar glow that hid
Nothingness in its wake
Manta Memory
Soft wings flowing to bright beacons
Drawn from the path, trusting until too late
Bound in a merciless harness
Soft wings despairing against stone
Dark Dragon Memory
Ascending towards darkness
A distorted reflection
The hunter relentless to sate
Insatiable hunger
Whale Memory
The distant call beyond reach
Echoes swallowed in a scouring silence
Empty light scattering the fragments
Of a spirit sundered in the break
Elder Memory
Bare at the precipice
Unseen fractures crumble in the chasm
The stars under fathomless weight
Reaching to light and to dark
Carrying memory of all that was held
In the final moment of shattering
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit
Here, maybe this can help you?
Thank you!
You know how you land in Home when you lose all your light outside of Eden ?
What if in canon, both skykids that died in Eden and skykids that died outside of Eden pretty much go through the same process (pity room/limbo, soul goes up after losing all winged lights, crashes back down to Home), but dying in Eden makes you ascend much higher than just enough to fall back home hence why you may get winged light from ascended spirits in Orbit ?
I headcanon the Isle Elder may have a hand in ensuring the soul of skykids that died outside of Eden rise high enough to land back to safety.
I had always just assumed we fell from the sky because our skykid was once one of the stars
Yeah ! What I'm saying is that I think our soul goes up no matter where we die, but how far up depends on where you are because you can only reach Orbit by dying in Eden.
new things are eligible, sure. if you mean social media stuff, not new season content, then I get that it's harder to say what's canon though. that's why the question came up in the first place. sometimes I feel like detail given by devs, not by the game itself is like... what? tangential to lore? parallel and closely related? sort of almost like concept art if that makes sense
I’ve thought that detail by devs is canon, so long as it doesn’t contradict the game (for example, devs saying Sanctuary wasn’t canon due to misguided pressure)
I mean yeah but it can help interpret or even give more ideas for theories; off the top of my head, the Beckoning Ruler's loneliness was linked to the Isle Elder being apart from the rest of the elders, hence the birth of the theory TLP spirits are elder caricatures !
You never know if something is always going to be irrelevant to lore, you know how we are 
"what's canon is canon. what's not is not" I'm definitely not going to trust myself to decide, because I just mentally reject the ideas that don't fit my own interpretation
arguably, anything that's posted by TGC on social media can help one form theories about the lore. whether such content is truly canon is debatable, but that they potentially may be lore-relevant – which many do, in my opinion – means they are worth considering.
while I often complain that I wish there would be more explicit lore details in game, due to the dearth of such, it has been useful musing about lore due to these external sources like concept art and social media posts
You could also edit Slink's message yourself if you feel there's more stuff to remove for it to be pinnable. Or if you'd rather a mod send a message that's going to be pinned.
I still don’t understand why the devs made that decision, should they understand how it fits into their own lore?
what is sanctuary :o
season of sanctuary! the uhhhh (1 2 3 4) 6th..? season?
yea cos if it might have potential, then it should set out like an option one should consider.
think of the pins as a buffet – there are many types of food to chose from, but you can pick and chose what to put on your plate, what to utilize to form your theories and interpretation of Sky's story
I agree; as a player I've always felt starved of dev-provided lore material, and I eat it up! So I think for "pins" it's a good thing to include as much dev material as possible, but like... I don't know, labeled under a heading of social media game-related content so people can choose for themselves
The Season of Sanctuary, some people thought it wasn’t canon due to sunglasses being “too modern”, despite Sky having industrial factories
ahh yeah
I had been assuming they'd achieved some kind of technological singularity due to how eden seems to contain more than just a wellspring of energy
Hello lorists, do you generally feel the shard memories add anything?
I think they do, showing that crabs were originally light/non-dark creatures that can ascend just as much as us.
entering the frozen memories, you get the text "memories from the Eye of Eden." so these memories are glimpses, snapshots of what had occurred at Eden, likely at the Eden calamity given how things could get petrified in there.
What you mean by that ? You want a subcategory of pins ? Maybe having a masterlist of social media stuff on one message could do the trick !
truthfully I'm not really familiar with what you're saying. maybe I heard that and decided not to accept it
I think if it's in the game, then it's in the game, but the game is made by people, so maybe it's fine if the rules change sometimes!
I feel like the poems that go along with the memories that get dropped in #vault-of-socials give more context for me
for example the manta one, it hints that the mantas probably got mislead somehow (im pretty sure it had something to do with darkstone?)
How do you get that from seeing the crabs?
that's a good idea I hadn't considered: one master-list/pin about social media stuff?
In the first shard memory, there’s a crab that ascends
Reminds me of the forest temple in a way
I wouldn't be against that at all ! Though if you're going to use Slink's message, I suggest you ask them.
Okay thanks
it seems all beings of Sky have light to some capacity, light that holds memories, and all light is capable of ascending. given crabs have glowing eyes, they have light, thus their souls are capable of ascending once freed
or do both? pin that one and keep working on ideas about how to make it easy for people to fall into the lore trap
“the lore trap” i love how you phrased that 
Honestly as long as something gets pinned, I'm good.
Like split the archive into specifically social media based content (streams, seasonal concepts and poems) and user archival content (salems masterlist, clumsys vault, etc)?
Slink's message was simply a compilation of links to concept art from recent seasons and corresponding social media posts since all of that is scattered across the Internet. in the dearth of explicit in-game lore, wouldn't it be useful to have all that pinned so lore moths know what is available to them to put on their plate?
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
hi skybot

TGC Social media resources and links
These are not meant to be any indication of what is canon lore or not, simply concepts and sources people can have access too and discuss!
Japanese Youtube Streams with translations: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
2019-2022 Seasonal concept art links: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Days of Sky Concepts: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Sky Animation Project - Teaser: https://youtu.be/KevTXLvpmVI
Sky Animation Project - Trailer: https://youtu.be/KxHFy9503N4
Shattering Opening Poem: https://bit.ly/SeasonofShattering
Spirit Infographic Cards
Flight- #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Abyss- #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Performance- #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Aurora- #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Remembrance#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Passage#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Moments ⛰️ #lore-discussion-spoilers message
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Feel free to contact me for additions or edits, even if I’m no longer in the server^^
Here, Slink remade the message if that's what you meant ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️
THANKS im allergic to pinging ppl
Alex I think you pinned the wrong message
/nm
I don't know what you're talking about 
SUCCESS
Thank you !
Thank you so much!
🎉🎉🎉
I guess what I meant was I hope there's consensus. and maybe to just say that while an "introductory pin" or whatever isn't the most important thing in a channel like this, it's important for everyone to keep collaborating on welcoming people, even if it's working well already! 
looks at all pins in the server and shakes head thankfully, nobody ever reads the pins!
I do lol
I have a gif for this but it’s on my laptop 😔
pins are like server lore, so I bet everyone in this channel reads them
i read this channels pins bc it has all the old isle memories archived
If your concern is that we might seem cold redirecting people to the pins instead of ourselves, I think you should rest assured it's not gonna be the case.
It seems like new arrivals with precise questions (such as "who is the king ?") get answered directly, but the pins are a good place to direct more general questions ("so what's the entire story of sky"/"what do we know is canon so far") ! They're also a convenient way to access sources, I know for a fact I don't have the energy to scroll through months worth of tweets on TGC's social media all the time 
Thank you again for the pin, I think it's going to be really useful on the long run.
(should I untag you in replies, I always forget to do that when no longer necessary, oops)
all the regulars have been very kind to me even though ive messed up in the past. i love talking with yall! 
since sky lore resources & even in-game stuff is so decentralized, a lot of folks who r serious about lore have their own personal archives for these kinds of things, which makes it really hard for people to start looking into sky lore, having resources easily accessible really does help
cannot wait for the artbook 
no I'm not really worried about that, I wanted to actually hear ideas (and I still do) about how to shape the experience for new members. we keep having more and more people joining (there was a time when 16k members was a scary idea to me) and we'll always have to help new people into the culture. And no I don't mind pings for replies
Aughhhh I’m late because I was drawing my friends as cats but I agree with all of these rules! The third one I would modify to say that it’s fine to include fan generated ideas if someone made something like, a theory encyclopedia, but we have to specify they’re fan generated.
The only things I would change are:
- adding onto number two and directly stating theory elitism is bad; you can debate whether one theory is more likely than the other, but not straight up insult them. I’ve seen people be like “well, I’m considering your idea,” while being as condescending as they can possibly be over text. I and many others absolutely hate that, I doubt I’d have to explain why
- ANOTHER add on to number two that the only theories that don’t deserve respect are ones that are directly harmful in their messaging or themes. Some of the theories I have seen here are… Eugh. I have no interest in considering them if they’re bigoted against me, my friends, or other people in this server — after all, the ability of everyone here to feel safe and welcome is far more important than upholding a fan theory. Obviously with the stipulation that we’d have to explain why it’s harmful.
- Maybe a fourth bit that says headcanons and fan content (ie us talking about our fanfics) is fine, we just have to specify it’s not actual theories.
Hope this helps, willing to explain more if necessary! Also wondering what other regulars here think on the topic
I’d also love the rules to take a hard stance against bigotry but also, that seems more like a server wide thing than us — we just find and stop it easier, because of how small we are
Oh my god you’re talking about rules for the lore primer and not the channel, I feel so dumb, I am so sorry
That's ok I was explaining the scope in my head while I was reading, but glad it made sense in the end. Even calling it "rules" for the primer makes me wince because the hardest thing about rules is how much people gravitate towards misinterpreting them! 
I agree with your sentiments though, about what attitudes to take; welcoming, not unnecessarily judgmental, and of course not permissive without limits.
Of course bigotry is not permitted in this server, and not welcomed by the company, the server staff, or all but the smallest and saddest fraction of a percent of members (haha I dare bigots to challenge me, and they won't be burdened with membership anymore). I won't write the 16 volume epic about that topic at this time, but will leave it at this: challenging hurtful and hateful behavior is something we'll always work at, and mods are proud to be part of a community that actively upholds human rights
I totally get your stance on bigotry, but I wanted to let you know. I think it’s due to the huge size of the server and the fact that mods can’t always watch, but, the truth is… I have experienced a lot of bigotry on this server.
Seen it, typically not directed at me, but in general in conversations I’ve spotted in other channels, felt forgotten and excluded at seeing my gender identity (non-binary) be ignored or made fun of several times, being laughed at and even made violent jokes about when I asked for fursona hints on a ts day… it sucks. I rarely go outside this channel because it’s the one place I feel safe all the time; it is small and so we can deconstruct all the things we see: veiled things that gets overlooked easily like “I don’t support the existence of queer people, they’re against my religion, but I won’t attack them for it,” etc. I don’t go into genchat at all for ts hints because it’s where I’ve experienced the most.
It’s part of why trying to keep this channel free of it, because it’s small enough to make an effort for and it’s where my friends are and I don’t want them to have to see it, is so important to me.
Just wanted to let you know.
We're aware that things like that happen, and we're never okay with it. Whether in realtime or later based on reports, we do work on problems like that. We can't stop things from being said because there's an infinite variety of ways to say offensive things, but we can and do act on reports. The reality of large server life is that mods can't hope to be perfect in stopping those ideas from once in a while seeing the light of day. I wish I could give you statistics about what we do prevent, but that's less important to me than making sure members know mods are also members, and we appreciate the help everyone gives us
@livid crypt Pls tell me where Ur pfp is from
Yeah I get you! I assumed it was because the server was so large anyways. The thing that stopped me from reporting most of it was that
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most of the places it happened in moved so quickly that it was gone just as fast.
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I have really bad social anxiety and so, fast paced and crowded places like genchat for example overwhelm me fast. If I see something, I am typically too overwhelmed to react in time before it disappears. I also am struggling to think over the anxiety and so sometimes reporting things doesn’t even OCCUR to me until like, a day later. That combined with how quickly it ends means it’s really hard for me to both get my thoughts together in a coherent fashion and report it while it’s still relevant. Especially because the same social anxiety makes even going to contact the mods a struggle
the gift that never stops giving!
I am a lot more confident near my friends & with them to back me up, especially in terms of trusting my judgement on whether something is harmful or not, which makes it a lot easier for me to report and shut down things in lc as well — it’s the only reason I’m able to do it in the first place
It's from back when I made it. :D it's a self-portrait
you are a good animator
I hate this I literally just noticed it moves
if sky kids exist and light creatures like mantas exist too.. and if krills exist, then dark kids exist too
so Cool...
Any guess for why there’s a bunch of light creatures (I think, but could also be wind) going into this pipe?
safer than flying through those rocks that was wrecking you
Yeah I had a bad time exploring Eden today 
but yea, they're likely going to ascend and Eden is the place to do that. they just gotta navigate the hellscape that is contemporary Eden
there's also the thought that since Isle Elder created the bird paths, which show us the way through the world, the birds also show us that we need to climb Eden to ascend
So before Eden exploded, do you think they still flew through there to ascend? I thought it was interesting because a lot of pipes seem to carry liquid but maybe light creatures also used them?
probably not – those pipes would be sealed shut and pumping whatever before becoming derelict and ruined by the Eden calamity. Eden might've already been hostile during the latter end of the kingdom's reign. it's just the path they have to take now to ascend safely
That’s cool, thank you!
does anyone have clue when the artbook will be available (and its estimated price too)?
nope – won't know any of that until the artbook is announced and released on thatskyshop
alright, thank you!
i have that one very old theory vault...haven't checked it in a while though, so it might be deleted idk 
edit: okay so it's not deleted
This gives me Ideas 
Does anyone has a clue abt next ts?
#questions-and-help would be better suited for that question, but it's Scolding Student from the season of Assembly 
why does nobody ask for me?
Lot of reasons
because you don't like sardines
Nobody likes you. You are terror & dread incarnate. You are the haint scourge who will not leave my terrors both waking or otherwise. I get no sleep because of you. I get no salvation because of you. Generations of people have died because of you. Everyone ive ever known has disappeared because of you.
Who are you to ask for forgiveness. WHO ARE YOU TO QUESTION WHAT IS ALREADY KNOWN?
DO YOU INTEND TO MOCK ME? IS THAT IT? DO YOU FIND HUMMOR IN YOUR SICK AND TWISTED CRIMES?
well I don't. Begone you wretched thing. Go eat a cactus or something
Skybot:
I heard a rumor that the mods are secretly mantas... I don't wanna get kidnapped again! 
You rang?
No. I cursed.
i think they're showing the way (for beginners maybe) like they do in hidden forest
Hi from Russia
Has anyone ever thought about who is telling the story at the beginning and why they say "but they didn't listen"
I like 2 imagine jt is pointing candlemaker :}
This is what years of asking for debt does to a person, folks. Learn from this by never charging debt again
Maybe it's the isle of dawn elder? I've been thinking about that too
How's about you pay up your fee before I forcibly mortgage your house 
How about you stop textwalling skybot and let me do the insults before I block you 
maybe the next time Skybot gets an update, it will re-earn everyone's compassion. believe it or not, as skybot's author I keep an eye on community sentiment toward the bot and have plans for changes that will turn sentiment back in the poor thing's favor
Would laugh if it backfired though 
Oh no I'm sorry alex 
I hope some day skybot's antics are loved enough to make an official appearance, even a small one, in the game. I have a complex backstory for skybot's place in the world of Sky that starts with the bot being responsible for opening doors when you hold a candle up to a diamond
Oh my Megabird how much do you have on them 
I stick fruit stickers on skybot when they tag me
skybot is the punching bag of lorechat 
It really is
I've always interpreted that as Megabird talking to you. Lightmama giving you a history lesson
I thought it could be the Isle Elder since they introduce you to the world of Sky beyond the tutorial level !
It does say “we” when it mentions spirits though! Could be interpreted as either Megabird (bc of how they have everyone and everything inside them so, anything is “we”) or a spirit, I like to think it’s candlemaker bc they talk to us the most and reappear at social space :}
It also implies that spirits can talk to you on some level before being fried which is a really neat idea!
fried
I MEANT TO SAY FREED …
ive always thought that all the isle of dawn Disembodied Voice dialogue was coming from your dearest space mother, who is desperate to stop her children from doing dumb things within the first ten minutes of being born
Like how we are to the Little Prince 
Frying candlemaker
If the speaker and/or soundtrack vocals are Megabird, perhaps there are moments when Megabird’s voice is clear. So at (re)birth, in the Isle cave, ascending to the Light, in Orbit, and descending (end credits)
The voice of those that passed echoes though the desert...
OH LIKE IN VALLEY…
imagining walking into a realm and just hearing distant cries for help echoing through it, or what the spirits said during their memory
I like to think there’s multiple speakers? I guess in a way how everyonees connected to the light if it is megabird; Because I do like the idea of isle elder and pointing candlemaker both, especially the former if you connect the elders and ancestors/spirits closely but some lines feel off in certain parts to me if its just isle elder if that makes sense
Canonically it’s probably Megabird I just like to consider it’s candlemaker
The spirit ever
one of the spirits of all time
Imagine if for the first skykids there wasn’t any speaker in the intro cave, so when they stumbled upon Candlemaker they were all “uhh idk what we doing,” so Candlemaker helped those skids out. When Candlemaker was ascended, they suggested to Megabird “maybe these children should be told instructions on what they’re there for.” And Megabird was like “good idea, that’s your job.”
Imagining accidentally overhearing an argument between two spirits in Them as you get reborn.
[as you’re falling] “Hey, what’s updog?”
A parenthesis because it reminds me of the theory I sent yesterday but what if the realm elders are the ones that send you back home should you run out of light in their realm instead of Eden ?
Ascending you like a spirit,you just don’t remember it
YEAH except you fall back home instead of reaching orbit.
I like to imagine Megabird like a large discord server. A bunch of spirits are trying to explain life to a new skykid and then one of them starts humming two trucks in the background and won’t stop
ping the discord owner 19 times challenge
The Elders are moderators that are only online sometimes
sorry I'm new, what's Megabird?
God of Sky. For further explanation: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Do you think ts hints are canon inside Megabird with this line of thinking. A Spirit getting worried when the hints sound suspiciously like them
This thing
Chill sunbather in the Light watching people make fun of them for eating Cheetos with milk when their ts hints stsrt:
sorry i wouldve been involved in that conversation but i was busy drawing megabird because i love her
Roasted in genchat for being exposed as a cucumber sandwich enjoyer.
Megabird not directly telling which spirit is about to get sent down, just giving hints throughout the Light before announcing it. Spirits who really wanted to go being disappointed when the hints don’t sound like them
I've seen a lot of theories but "Ash is Megabird" absolutely sends me.
Thank you it’s making me lose it as well
A skid asks Megabird if this weeks TS has a fursona
Traveling spirits happen when a spirit inside Megabird gets muted for whatever reason. Sassy drifter has been involved in so many arguments
okay maybe this isn't toooo canon compliant but i've always imagined that Megabird isn't, like, The Sum Total Of All Light Creatures In The World or something, just that she's connected to all that life thru the rebirth cycle and mayyyybe a few dubiously accurate myths and legends came about in ancestor culture as a result
Sassy Drifter keeps on getting banned but they always come back with an alt.
Megabird telling a bunch of ascended skykids these TS hints before they descend. The skykids are reborn and start spreading the hints to other skykids so they start guessing. There’s a few who keep saying yeti no matter what
“The stars falling” was actually the result of a massive argument where hundreds of people got banned from Megabird and sent back down to the earth. What they did is still unknown.
Megabits
Why is my autocorrect
You may edit your post but we know the truth
silly headcanon but I think megabird just gets rlly emotional over the silliest of things. she would happy cry over a particularly round pillbug
wait is this Sólvin’s job now
Before this conversation I liked to imagine it was skykids with prophetic powers who spread it (like from season of prophecy) but now I’m changing my headcanon because this one’s funnier
Maybe Megabird is the connection between light creatures...
I like to think Megabird loves all beings of light, in part cos they compose Them, in part cos They know from all the experiences within the Light what it is like to be unloved and wants to ensure that They are a source of love for every being of light.
So like Megabird getting silly and overly emotional over things I can see.
I walk in to see how Megabird is a discord server and Sassy Drifter is a troll.
I love this chat
Sassy drifter enjoying their afterlife of spreading extremely ridiculous and mean rumors about the other members. “Hey did you know Doublefive Light Catcher eats their cereal with a fork?”
And perhaps Megabird is amazed at all light is capable of, what beings it transforms into, what those beings do, adding onto Their love
okay i think i brought this up ages and ages ago but i actually have a rlly complicated headcanon about how there used to be other gods and that megabird was just a minor god that got elevated to power when the others died off and most of what she does is half out of genuine kindness and respect for mortal life and the other half is to spite the gods that turned a blind eye to their suffering in the past
I would be more than happy to explain this if anyones interested
Losing it at the contrast of the two conversations going on at once
reminder that Ash made possibly my favorite piece of Sky fanart before they were hired (megabird topic): #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations message
OHHHH THAT LOOKS LIKE MY SKYKID, losing it @rigid mural look it’s your birdblo
Oh my gosh
PHYSICALLY HAVE ASCENDED OMG THAT ART IS SO GOOD WHAT
I KNOW RIGHT staring at it
fun fact this headcanon lead to "megabird has Issues with feeling like she's not good enough and as a result puts all her effort into making sure nobody is left suffering
The irony I find here is that arguably, the ancestors stopped worshipping them when Darkstone came into fruition
deep inhale okay so basically, and this is all just my tightly woven web of "wouldn't this be neat",
Megabird played no part in creating the world- She didn't even EXIST in the beginning. Instead, there were four elemental gods- Of water, wind, earth/plants and fire/animals. They made Skyworld, the animals within it, and the ancestors.
Of course, being actual god gods, they... kinda sucked sometimes! They squabbled between eachother and projected their own flaws onto their creations and made an imperfect world soley to entertain themselves with the drama within it.
And, eventually, they decided that... "hey, these guys keep dying just as things get interesting. Let's make a way for them to come back to life", so they did just that- And, to manage this cycle, they made Megabird.
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Oh, that's interesting! Maybe the gods are related to/ are the Prophets?
Megabird, as one of the higher gods creations, was... Basically treated as lesser and worthless outside of her one job! She was a tool to them, and they only tolerated her presence in their realm because there was nowhere else for her to go.
More importantly, she wasn't allowed to create. Only manage what they created. She put up with this for a very long time, she put up with the chaos below and the innocent people who, in her eyes, didn't have to die- Or at least, not as much as they did.
One day, though, the temptation got to her, and, in secret, she made the first Skykids- Prototypes, essentially, a little bit wonky and very clearly based on the Ancestors, but she created.
This made the other gods VERY angry. They lashed out at her, killed off her creations, and, in the process, their anger affected the world below, essentially causing a mini-apocalypse. Disasters, feral creatures, Everything Sucking.
Aaaand this. THIS made the ANCESTORS angry.
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And, as people tend to do when they're angry at the gods... They set out to kill those gods. And they succeeded- The god of Fire was the first to fall, being the easiest to access. It was a fierce battle, and many Ancestors died.
Megabird brought them back.
When the other gods questioned her, she said it was her duty. Maybe it was, but maybe, just maybe, she knew what she was doing.
Next, it was the god of Wind, and then that of Water. They fell one by one, and, as the battles went on, Megabird did not hesitate to bring their dead back to them.
Soon, all that was left was the god of Earth. They had seen what happened to their siblings, and they were not going to throw their life away. So they challenged Megabird, the cause of this conflict, the one who kept bringing the ancestors back through the battles.
The Earth God was confident that they could snuff out Megabird without so much as a struggle. They helped make her, after all. They could un-make her.
What they did not expect was to be struck down so swiftly, so confidently, by a god who's had enough.
Megabird had enough of the suffering. Enough of the conflict. Enough of innocent people, as insignificant as they may be compared to the gods, suffering for nothing.
And she was angry, and she was there, ready to end it all at the source.
And so, the last god fell not at the hands of the Ancestors, but at the only god who truly cared for them.
Megabird was all that was left, her siblings all dead, and she was ready to fix their mistakes.
And that concludes my overly complicated Megabird headcanon slash excuse to give her a traumatic past and a reason to ensure the world is peaceful and free of suffering <3
This also means Megabird isn't a perfect god, though- It took her a very long time to get the Skykids right, and, after the deaths of the Ancestors, she was entirely incapable of making more- She simply didn't know how.
Yoooooo that's awesome!
Y'all I have a new joke idea about the King
give peas a chance, brah
He left the stovetop on too long when trying to make mac and cheese, the pasta got overcooked, and the pot just exploded leading to Eden going up in flames. The Krills are starving after having nothing to subsist on but burnt mac and cheese bits which is why they attack us. Many Sky Kids have made the trip to turn off the stove and end the chaos, but none have succeeded as of yet. They all fall to the overcooked pasta raining down from above.
Megabird is the chef who makes really good mac and cheese from scratch and sent down the Sky Kids to turn off the stove so she can finally teach the Ancestors how to make some proper mac and cheese.
Idk what the Elders would have done yet, they were probably the other chefs in the restaurant.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuVDeUrVi9HDOKUkVCAdaUO8lw6ALOFSx im actually workin on a megabird playlist rn, anyone have any song suggestions?
I heard a rumor that the mods are secretly mantas: cute and fren-shaped 
I heard that forest used to be a power diamond workshop (and treasure Island) and used MANTAS to make the technology in sky and the bigger the Manta the more diamonds they could make and krills are mistreated mantas eating every light at sight and the diamond in Eden is a giant power diamond gifted from forests mines

You got that correct
Remember, it's all ✨theory✨ and we're all losing our minds /lh
I need this for my fanfic so excuse me if Im stupid.. But can spirits fly?? Like why are they never seen flying in any of the seasons I've been in
no, they can't fly on their own. their capes are likely for fashion and the wedges some of them have seems to be a bug from an update
Ohh alr thank you, so then got a clue as to why we can?
skykid capes are made of winged light, which allows them to fly
The spirits' capes arent made out of the same thing?
BIRDBLO
Yeah it's one of my favorite pieces too ! I really love how gigantic the elder bird looks 
likely not. in life, the ancestors' capes were probably made of various fabrics. sure, in death every part of them is made of light, but it's not winged light, nor do they as spirits seem to have the ability to fly.
Just noticed, I was hugging my friend after messing with shards in home, and it seems like when you hug a friend that lost almost all their cape energy, more sparkles from your light stick to them as they get recharged !
oh hey, that's me
Sparkles to turn you into a furry
i just wont question it 
wait was this video taken today?
If so then it’s killing me that alasdair woke up, dressed as one oc to get sharded on purpose, then rejoined the next shard hour to dress as an entirely different oc to get sharded yet again, both because it happened in hir fic. Prime alasdair behavior
I wish to have the same level of dedication as Alasdair in regards to how much they put themselves through for their ocs
yes, this was today.
Tomatoá got sharded twice. canonically they get sharded once but yknow.
Nanif chilled on top of Day Elder portal til they lost all their light. nanifcore
I’m gonna cry why are you like this /p
Lemme ask
Are skykids technically states with light inside them ?
States ? You mean statues ? It depends on your headcanons, mine is that they're made of paper and minerals and their body is hollow, so I'd say yes ! Other people might believe they are organic or entirely made of light though.
The game seems to heavily imply that they’re some form of hard shell with light inside, but given we can’t really dissect them, you can go wild with how far you take it. You could put little light organs in there if you want. You can make their shell soft and malleable or hard. Etc.
I know that there are a bunch of different headcanons I’ve seen here on what it looks like when their shells break open, for example
a common thought is the clayshell theory, where skykids are composed of a hollow shell made of harden clay or some other earthen material filled with light. I have an outline of my own working theory for the composition of a skykid:
–clothing, hair, masks & other cosmetics made of light.
–a humanoid physical shell made of some magic-induced earthen material (i.e. clay, stone, ash, charcoal, meteorite) that has a hole in the chest and eyes.
–this hollow shell is full of light, such as winged light and neutral light.
–their cape, a manifestation of winged light.
–their flame, manifesting as the light in the hole in their chest and held outside their bodies via a red candle.
–their soul, appearing as a blue sparkle.
also wanna show off my playlist for the king (which i am REALLY REALLY PROUD OF)
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuVDeUrVi9HAKcfs7ml_Srf4z-ePe8DMj
This things got everything from lemon demon to vocaloid to a warrior cats fansong
THE WARRIORNCATS FANSOJG I NEED TO SEE
Its at the bottom of the playlist!
OH THIS SONG IS AMAZING AND IT FITS SO WELL
since the playlist isnt sorted by actual relevance i will say that i find the most fitting songs to be Star of the Show, Reckless Battery Burns and I'm A Princess
It's patch notes, so technically it's in the live game, but just in case you guys really want a last minute surprise I will spoiler it.
||In the Constellations for Isle of Dawn, Daylight Prairie, and Hidden Forest, a second Ultimate Gift is now available after the first has been unlocked. When worn, they shield the player from a limited amount of damage before they will need to be restored by visiting the Elder who gave them—for example, by going to their Temple. [...] Each item provides the same amount of protection, regardless of which Elder it is unlocked from.
Are the elders getting strong enough thanks to our light gifts to help us through our journey beyond opening their temple gates
?||
it just came to my mind recently, but the portal that you enter to go home in orbit has the same shape as the isle of dawn portal. its a nice touch considering that’s where your origins were, and now youre rebirthing. you get to experience the whole thing over again
oo i really like that idea
(maybe one day we can get actual cutscenes of them when they're strong enough
)
oh that reminded me of another thing from the patch notes that got me wondering who its's referring to
The stars protested that in all of their eons of existence, they have learned enough to not be fooled by a simple Crab Rock Trick [...] that this mischievous chicanery should not nearly be enough to overpower the magic of the Constellation Gates[...].
are they referring to the elders as stars here? it would make sense but then again they called them elders in the mask section Vela posted above. Yet the constellation gates were probably made by the elders for some reason but idk
if it IS referring to the elders then they're OLD OLD, to me i headcannoned they were at least a few thousand years old (Daleth being in the multiple thousands with the rest in the lower thousands or hundreds). Thats just me though, what do you think this is referring to?
I have an idea and would just like to say what if the crabs are legit just smaller versions of krills? Kinda like pokemon the evolve or become a pet to the kids cuz of the shoulder pet
some Pokémon evolutions don't connect resemble their counterpart much (Magikarp to gyarados) so it would be possible
Yep that's why it kinda makes some sense plus they r very angry lil dude
@keen shore had a theory they're corrupted jellyfish ! It's because they move in a similar manner.
OK NOW THAT'S ALSO COOL
"the stars" could be referring to the Elders, the spirits (constellation gates are sometimes referred to as "spirit gates"), the Light, Megabird – honestly, all those things are considered stars, so really it could be any of them
Eden is more deserted than usual 
Could be that the ancestors worshipped the stars too, especially because they end up here in the afterlife. Perhaps it's a form of ancestor worship ?
i honestly don't know what to believe, i just can't imagine the elders being eons of age imo but the other options sound a little more plausible
did they change it again
i dont remember the water being THAT light (also the layout looks different)
It's not the water, there's sand beneath
They added water reflections, it's frying devices 
But pretty moon reflection
rtx phone moment (idk if thoes even exist-)
there's a quip from one of the first dev livestreams that says the Elders are "ancient – we don't know their age or gender" et cetera. so they could be hundreds of thousands of years old.
i think the assembly crew decorated granny’s hut 
AWWWW
Oh they definitely did, it's their equipment all over the place
Filing for adoption.
can i join you
Assembly kids are so powerful, they changed the geographical structure of the place too
The power of teenagers in YA novels,,,
oo yeah i do remember that, i can definitely believe those numbers, just have a hard time with the 0.5 billion years that an eon is but that's probably the point to not know for sure
just gonna add that to the drawing list
its getting quite long
I was trying to reply but yessss drawing time 
the ones that i wanna do the most are director finding the 900th korok and postman beating all the dreams spirits in mario kart
I- ok then
they were ts hints 
Thank you sm for remembering it!!
AWWW THIS IS SO CUTE, imagining them getting super excited to decorate grannys treehouse like they did theirs
Granny adopted the Assembly Kids canon
Ash told me guys it's totally true- /j 
thats my new headcanon. granny actually knows that the assembly kids decorated their tree, and as a result the qg is finding little wax buns all over the place
(actually i still dont know what the difference between headcanon and theory is lmao can someone explain?)
One of Double-Five's TS hints says they're making the kids meals 
Well actually the Assembly Kids were Relief Workers, well according to one of my theories! Seeing them helping the elderly grandma is quite refreshing
STOP im gonna be on a drawing grind 
Oooooooo you want to draw DF making a meal, oooo you really want to
Also I was meaning to ask, what happened to the reconstruction of the Wasteland Boneyard? (talking abt drawings)
double five the type to make lunch 4 some1 n leave em a little note w it full of stuff that makes u go

The list of people who have adopted the assembky scouts already grows, with both every lightseeker and granny on the list
this is why they are my favorite spirit
O my god I completley forgot I drew that until you mentioned it. Hold on let me try to find it. I forgot it existed 
Well I mean if they're orphan scouts? Who wouldn't adopt them? (Even the Grouch would)
WAIT no I drew a reconstruction of the first area, are you talking about something else? (Confused names for a second.) the one I drew was wasteland as a salt marsh for clarification
Oh no the bone one! Tough I would totally like to see that!
an idea is forming in my head
a skid found a tray of wax balls with a nice note. they look around to see doublefive peaking round the corner 
Gonna have to hold myself back from redrawing it for the second time now that I’m actually good with backgrounds.
Do you mean like, a landscape or creature reconstruction?
everyone 0.4 seconds after seeing the assembly scouts
Yoink
Well both sound quite interesting! Can I see both?
AIDJAODIFJ I mean the picture you were talking about. I assumed you meant a landscape reconstruction and that’s why I thought you were talking about mine
I was talking abt the Creature Reconstruction tough,
Still what's this landscape one abt?
I think I’ve seen what you’re talking about before but don’t know how to find it, let me try to find that and mine
I have Reika’s models of the bones but they’re not reconstructions of the living creatures if that’s what you mean
This was mine from like six months ago and it’s killing me now that I’ve improved so much Help
don't worry I'll just check one of my theory links, I posted a theory just while they were discussing it
talk abt bad timing
still better than what i can do
it looks amazing salem!!
I’m gonna try to find the one you mentioned I feel like I remember the image
Yeah! That's what I meant!
Here
I remember being blown away by this when I first saw it. After seeing your other work, I know this is just the tip of the iceberg of your abilities cos damn you’re an incredibly talented artist
I love it, I always Imagined it as a wetland kind of enviroment!
THANK YOU SO MUCH
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT,
Funny bc I feel the same way abt ur writing!
psst
can i have your skids
its uhh for science
this is bluebird please do not hurt them they are very small
hopefully they will be in good hands
i will do my very best 
they are wearing weasel mask?
yes!!
gotcha runs to iartbook
when you have two main skids with multiple fits
Cant relate, put on the bluebird fit once and have barely ever taken it off since
my outfit changes slightly but it always includes laidback’s umbrella
God I wish I had that umbrella so bad, was too broke when they came almost two years ago to get it
actually one of my moths outfits was the moth cosmetics + umbrella lmao
Here’s Naihho, don’t hurt them, they’ve been through a lot
sometimes i forget not everyone in lore chat is a tlp moth wdym u have laidbacks umbrella /hj
thank you, ill take care of them 
i forgot to turn of ping mb
Wow, what a nice and considerate message about Naihho, I wonder who hurt them in the first place,
Helkipi, for starters
Source: https://twitter.com/CecilKimLA1/status/1547020704247267329?t=AxZkSMhYKbm78X71Sm66fQ&s=19
Another funky wizard ancestor ? 
I meant you <3
OHH UPCLOSE IMAGE..
alright im gonna start drawin
gbye lorechat
POMDERING THE ORB
Oi
BELOVED
who are you
YESSS THAT PIECE
WIZARD
Holding back the temptation to redo it but maybe not as a wetland, I’m thinking a drier climate, HMMM with lots of light creatures,
EDIT: YES and jellies for the crabs
AYO
Cant tell if it’s just the colors or the clothes in general but wowww unique clothes I am so 
I love the clothing design of the animated project
I need to see more alive ancestors, the switch trailer wasn't enough /hj
also im always takin more so keep sending em
Something is bugging me about that design but idk what
Is it the feather (?) on the mask
Looks like the scholar headpiece but tiny
How do we feel about chaparral Wasteland, especially with The whole fires burning away old growth thing
No but id rather take a nap
I would say that the hood jusr looks like that but iirc the adult in the switch trailer has a super skinny scholar headdress so I think it is one. Small
Probably a novice scholar...?
The bigger the headpiece the higher your status, something like that
THAT WOULD WORK especially with the whole performance thing of students having their mentors mask but less dramatic/more basic, it could extend to scholar headdresses
god Mario’s face in the bottom right is slaughtering me
YAHOO
I'm not bothering to crop that out 
It adds to the tension
He’s the one watching
I think we're gonna get a new animated trailer for PS.
I hope so I would pass away
OHHH GOOD GUESS,, I would actually kill for that
Oh no… I would kill for that and Dark would die for it… I think I know what I must do. I am sorry everyone.
That topic already passed but I have like 300 turban kids (a couple of owl kids on the side,) that thing never left my scalp 
Cat mask my beloved, you are never leaving my face
Show???
uh what is happening
Enchantment cosmetics are so underappreciated, I wish I had more of them, they’re gorgeous
Weasel 
I hope everyone here knows that my days are numbered; whenever we next get more content on pre disaster Sky I am simply going to turn into dust from the force of my emotions
showing up at tgcs doorstep like a cat asking for wet food bc ive only experienced 2 enchantment ts and 5 sanc ts tgc wwhere r they
I was really hoping for Alchemist this week, but the plant hint sealed the deal on SS
The enchantment and lightseeker summoning circles canceled out and Scold came instead
HDMHDM
HEY
They all were my top 3 candidates 😭
we summoned from the baby lightseeker group, half effective
Scold is basically tiny shush so I’m still happy about it
Shushing Light Scholar hasn't been seen since August 20 2020, do you think putting up a lost person sign on a bulletin board would work
Rob them when they visit the sapling
ASSEMBLY
DECORATION
GRANNY
WHATVHAPPENED
They’re just really shy don’t worry about it
I refuse to be mean to Lightseekers. Except to Crab Whisperer because sometimes it's funny.
Preparing for Days of Sunlight
except for crab whisperer
Finally you see the light
Gently puts SLS in my pocket
Have you seen them. They don't care if you attack them because they can kill a god.
And I'll thank them
shush fursona
Wait what about the really cosy ones in the trees you sent the other day. They got triongles
I’m trying to post them but discord thinks they’re inappropriate
HELP ???
Forbidden Shush fursona 😔
discords image censor is so weird, if u add like a line or crop it slighty it might work
YESSS
They didn't get censored for me. Wierd.
They even have the triangle :}
salem could i dm you? its not urgent
OH THEY LOOK SO HAPPY..
Why must you melt my heart so early in the morning TvT

Every hour is owl time.
if u put shush in the dryer for too long w high temperature they shrink and that’s how u get scold
Alasdair is already microwaving them, please don't 
are spirits dishwasher/washing machine/dryer/microwave safe challenge go
are you
Do you think you could microwave spirits to heal them because they’re light beings
If you blow-dry hermit you get an elder wooly manta
SO TRUE, alasdair made them shush’s little sibling and I nearly cried. So much
SCREAMING
If I had spirits roaming in my house I think I got bigger problems on my hands
yknow that one thing they do sometimes in like. Cartoons n stuff where an animal is absolutely sopping wet
just a soaked beast
and it like
shakes itself dry and immediately puffs up w fluff
hermit
YES YOU GET IT
Like clockwork I had to pull out my tablet to illustrate yet another one of hir ideas.
Awwww 
YESSSSS THE 
Lightseeker × Assembly Brainrot here we go again
Vela the way you draw spirits is very friend shaped
Protip: every spirit is a friend
SO TRUE

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