beta-discussion

[cursive tinsel]

Aren't umbrella on rotation at the weekends in ark spell shop in beta?

[feral ether]

Are there any shards in the other kingdom by any chance?

[marble elk]

Nerp :/

[elfin delta]

Me who didn't even know that umbrella spell exist-

[desert token]

they are only in the beta shop, but they have been there since around abyss. they briefly slipped into live via the seasonal blessing nodes for abyss, though they were also removed very quickly

[rose token]

wdym

[dreamy grail]

That's office cape and there's #beta-looking-for-group for that

[maiden aspen]

Hi, where's the exactly fallen shard location in LP area?

[gilded parrot]

I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first

[rancid sleet]

we’re not sure, it looks like it’s bugged today :<

[dreamy grail]

Guys I'm pretty sure I got max height from one overall resize use

Using moff hair, the like poofy strand at the top has to be fully above the top line on the jar thingy of s GW lamp right? (The tall ones) because if so I somehow managed max height with my first resize of beta

[gray steppe]

Hi can I know the new season will have how many days ?

[hollow compass]

45 days, iirc.

[dry flax]

I understand many complaining about blinding blinding light when eden blast animation plays out. But I guess the point is... It is such a massive and destructive event, possibly releasing so much energy (think similar to large bombs even atomic bombs) that it should be an event releasing blinding light? What are your thoughts?

[hollow compass]

In real life that would probably happen, but this is a game and it would be a wonderfully inclusive gesture towards players with photosensitive issues, if TGC toned the flashing down all over the game.

[past nebula]

No shards today either?

[dry flax]

Agreed. So what are some ideas to visually convey a massively destructive event that released lot of energy (explosion)

[hollow compass]

I don't have any suggestions, since I'm not a designer by profession. I would like to say that I trust TGC on this, but I don't. So here we are.

[dry flax]

Oh sure. It is a more generic question to all beta folks

So that we can feedback some good ideas if possible

[hollow compass]

I think Sagomay said yesterday that we don't necessarily need to come up with a solution to an issue that is bothering us. But it might be an interesting discussion, I suppose.

[desert token]

I think the event's effect is alright, except the aggressive shaking (it makes me motion sick), in both prairie and forest. meanwhile I was leading a group in valley yesterday when the mountain exploded, and I couldn't tell where I was going or what was even happening for a second. I don't really care about it being realistic like that, because I think that just turning the sky red and seeing the explosion in the sky conveys pretty accurately that there's something apocalyptic going on. we're not used to seeing changes in the realms, so I don't think it is necessary to make us feel hurt irl to have an emotional impact

[full jewel]

So apparently the turtle event wasn't disabled in the isles because I was greeted by a red sky which I thought was a season thing, but no it's just… turtle

[hollow compass]

Another issue with all these visual cues on screen is that many devices struggle to handle them, giving off even more annoying flashing and colour bugs. (The sunset event in Sanctuary is a flickering horror show on Switch, for example.)

[elfin delta]

Sunset will occur in the sanctuary island along with the turtle event on a time basis. It's part of days of nature event and an entirely different event than the current season

[brazen gorge]

I personally love the explosions and go out of my way every time I get the chance to see it

[spark lance]

Anybody know when they'll open the beta thing

[oak remnant]

I think some provide feedbacks regarding this on how they wish they have a toggle where they can control the light. Some also wish it could be a bit less intense.

Personally, I just wish there will be warnings whenever it's gonna occur. Or before it releases to Live. Like "next season going to be yada yada, photosensitive warning"

[hollow compass]

On a more general note, I wish they'd provide time stamps for all events in game. The turtle one was not good. Why do players need to rely on other players for those things?

[dry flax]

I guess there are expectations and experiences all over the spectrum.. Some don't like sounds and shaking, some don't like the light. May be some don't like both sudden sound and light. Interested to see how TGC would address these concerns creatively.

[hollow compass]

My guess, judging from previous experience, is that they will remove the shaking but not the light effects.

[narrow current]

Is the darkness event working on vault? I want to do my quest but gw was bugged yesterday so now i have to do it in vault.

Edit: ok ty

[oak remnant]

In my opinion, the blasting light will be a better indicator of the event. So I won't be surprised if they do what Russin said

[desert token]

tbh I don't really see them changing a lot from the current state - since they only addressed the starlight desert explosion being too bright it feels like they're gonna keep the valley one as is I enjoy the fact that they've introduced new lighting and environmental effects (especially, the village of dreams looks so amazing with it), but I don't like the forced aspect of having these elements as daily quests, and making them essentially unavoidable. people who have thalassophobia could just choose to skip going to treasure reef/doing the quests, but there is no way for people who are photosensitive to easily avoid existing in the places where this explosion will occur it and such

[silent lily]

I like the lights and shaking as they are, but there are many people who don't and might be sensitive to them. So i guess they can either tone it down a bit and make the shaking less agressive and for a smaller time period

[late sonnet]

@kindred fossil hear me out
shard qg with enchantment qg

[kindred fossil]

Oh nooooo 😂 leave the poor man alone, I think he’s held enough hands already

[late sonnet]

YOU SAID THEY HAD TO HOLD HANDS, BRUH

[desert token]

cy already drew shard qg with the rose doe

[kindred fossil]

It doesn’t have to be him

[late sonnet]

no see that's a bit different
the roses were so I could accentuate the beauty and uwuness of qg
because shoujo manga beauty filter view never fails

[craggy elbow]

imagine if the 4 people handhold quest did complete with performance quest
A lone player dream come true

[agile hazel]

yall smooth brain, the obvious choice is shard qg holding hands with rose qg

[desert token]

it's real in my imagination U_U

[late sonnet]

why ship the only two non humanoid qgs together
love wins

[oak light]

Does anyone have screenshots of the very first beta of the prophecy season? My friend said that there were other ugly clothes, so I was interested. I just remember that there were other things on the promo art for the season of prophecy

[hollow compass]

You should be able to search the screenshots channel by date, if you're on a computer, to narrow it down a little.

[hollow spruce]

Pong confused, we can do the first seasonal quest everyday? and the rock on top of the realm is gone

[exotic wigeon]

Speaking of volcanoes erupting, mine hasn't erupted in 2 days. How do I progress the season

[hollow compass]

Photosensitivity is not a fear. It's an actual neurological issue that can cause seizures.

[exotic wigeon]

That's a bit exclusionary lol

[hollow compass]

People with disabilities exist in all parts of the world. You can't just tell them to not exist because it doesn't fit into your point of view.

[late sonnet]

it sounds kinda ableist tbh

[woeful plank]

what about we stop being jerks towards people with disabilities? lol.

[celest shell]

I'm not sure that speaking over people with such conditions is an option here

[pallid shadow]

Can someone tell me where the shard is.... i have looked and cant find it send help

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[kindred fossil]

& usually other games have customizable options & warnings to ease those effects (to an extent), Sky does not, we wouldn’t be here if it took those players into account

[late sonnet]

personally I may not suffer from photosensitivity issues, but the bloom in the game DOES give me mild headaches and every time I'm like MUH EYES but it doesn't stop me from playing
and I'd like to think that making a game more accessible to others is always a good thing

[hollow compass]

It's always worth fighting for things to change and improve, so that they are more inclusive.

[steady glade]

does anyone know where can i visit darkness the kingdom of sky quest

[kindred fossil]

There’s no darkness to visit today, it’s bugged

[steady glade]

oh i see, thank you
and is it the same with season quest from new area?

[timber stratus]

Hello, is the shard in vault still bugged today?

Edit: okay thank you

[deep cloud]

Where’s the chard today?

[elfin delta]

Liv so you're saying that people with disabilities like that should just suck it up and don't play at all? Are you really that bored to hear people talking about their situations while playing the game that you have to be a jerk

[ionic bluff]

I think tgc could make adjustments or personal settings for people with neurological issues. Telling them not to play the game because of some feature is just insensitive, tgc could accommodate for them instead of just telling them to straight up leave.

Imagine playing a game you absolutely love for months, even years, and then an incredibly flashy event comes along that you physically cannot handle, then people are just like “alright, I guess you just gotta leave idk nothing u can do abt it” bro.

[agile hazel]

If you don't like the responses, don't say anything next time

[quaint canyon]

I'm not photosensitive but those lights and shaking are really blinding, there should be some kinda toggle for them you can not just tell us all to quit the game when we face some issue how else is the game supposed to ✨improve✨

[cursive tinsel]

How would you change the explosion?
An off/ on switch?
A switch to tone down the light?
A different type of volcanic explosion that doesn't include a light ball for all?

[quaint canyon]

First two sound good because that would also fix blinding eden problems

[ionic bluff]

Exactly. + the events not even in it’s baby stages of development. It’s, like, a singular atom. It’s BARELY even been a week. There will probably be adjustments and hopefully settings for the event (turn down brightness, less extra effects, noise, etc)

[random gull]

just gonna point out this pinned message to those saying "just don't play" or "just suck it up and face it"

`I know the topic has long since past, but I want to repost and pin something mentioned about a week ago:

Photosensitivity isn't about screen brightness, it's a much more complex situation than that. It's an accessibility issue, and not something that should be treated with a dismissive tone. That'd be like telling someone with a disability to not be disabled anymore. Ableist behavior is not welcome nor constructive. Roughly 1 out of every 5 people live with some sort of disability.

From a design perspective, the visual accessibility things that have come up recently are something that can be really tricky to design around, since the trigger is inconsistent on a person-to-person basis. We do our best to listen and make adjustments as these concerns are raised, it is important to us that people feel comfortable discussing these things so that we can fix them.

Passive aggressive comments about others, and other poorly intentioned behavior will be met with mod or staff intervention. If you need a refresher on community guidelines on how to treat your fellow player, please take the time to refresh yourself on the rules.
If you see this kind of behavior and do not feel comfortable trying to deescalate the situation, please flag it up to contact-the-mods.`

[agile hazel]

Considering what we know of the game code/engine, toggler/setting sliders aren't possible, or are difficult to implement. Realistically speaking, lights have to have a flat reduction or not be added

[cursive tinsel]

I thought one of the Devs was specifically asking for feedback on lighting and photosensitivity in the pins for this season?

[random gull]

yes iko asked:

Does an area feel too dark/different for your liking? Is it difficult to navigate with the new lighting changes? When the lighting changes happen, are there flashes and issues that can be a bit too much for you/others, especially those with sensitivity issues?

[cursive tinsel]

To be fair I interpreted the explosion like an atom bomb at first until you see the red rocks falling out the sky.
A volcanic eruption is a big cloud ring explosion (with occasional lighting through) but I get an expanding cloud would be even harder to code even if was less blinding

[agile hazel]

The lighting system as a whole needs to be fixed. Too many flashes, overly bright or pitch black areas

[hollow compass]

Both the new Light hairstyles have excessive bloom also.

[high wave]

holy cow the new seasonal quests look like p a i n

[hollow compass]

Nah, they're just like burning any other darkness plants but foreeeveeeer. 💤

[high wave]

but the goku crabs 😭

[rich plover]

wheres the shards in vault?

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[ionic bluff]

I’m still really hoping for dark pants to compliment those capes

[high wave]

like a few little dark plants covering the dark plant cape?

[ionic bluff]

darkness plant pants or krill pants

[fervent jacinth]

I even want to have at least 1 krill each shard place , more chaos

[elder inlet]

since theres no shards in vault i assume the visit quest wont be able to be done right? thank you!

[ionic bluff]

How funny would it be if there was, but the shards would rain down by demolishing the walls 💀💀

[languid bear]

Hope for Krill mask and eden crown

[opal viper]

hello guys how to do first quest about daily quests

I am not able find red stone in vault

[spice crown]

How do people already have so many items?

[thick ibex]

Don't forget: if y'all can't find things, best to put in some feed back so TGC can look at it

[opal viper]

Hecker

[fervent jacinth]

The shard is bugged in Wasteland and Vault

[opal viper]

Ok so we are not able to finished it ?

[heady shell]

thank you, so it cannot be completed

[urban quiver]

Excuse me, may I ask where I can find the shards dropped by Eden today?

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[kindred belfry]

When eden erupts, is there a difference when you climb up the mountain? I’d image if it did it’d be even more blinding

[mortal falcon]

◖ I woke up today, and questioned how a shard could be in Vault because it's like, closed off in a building basically, and then I remembered the Star desert place exists

[quaint canyon]

What's "bloom"? /gen

[pallid shadow]

Extra shiny hairs?

[turbid ridge]

Is it possible for the little prince's cloak to return later?

[elfin delta]

Which one?

[rigid rose]

how much something seems to 'glow' sort of--like how in home everything looks so bright and unclear during the day

[turbid ridge]

That yellow cloak

[molten panther]

Everything looks very bright in home space.
I wore the king jelly hair in Valley and the brightness went down significantly.

[fast skiff]

IAPs from the LPP season are not expected to return.

[turbid ridge]

How long will it take for the next test suit to be issued

[elfin delta]

The yellow scarf won't be returning sadly, as it was part of a collaboration between sky and the little prince

[turbid ridge]

Okay, I see. Thank you.

[dreamy grail]

Both ark and starlight for some reason didn't get their zones implemented, for ark it's probably just behind the ark or Infront of it as a guess, maybe outside of farmland where scarecrow is

For starlight my guess would be behind the hill of the rose, maybe additionally near the campfire and probably in jelly fields as well

(Do not take these for certain)

[grave jetty]

So, summarizing the current Shard bugs: Prairie's and Valley's Shards can work sometimes, but they're inconsistent. Forest's Shards appear but don't actually work right, so you can't finish quests with them. Wasteland's and Vault's Shards don't appear at all. Do I have all this right?

[agile hazel]

Definitely not the campfire, that's locked behind a LP quest. Jellyfields is too off the track for how big Desert is. It'll most likely be in the big empty area between Rose, entrance and big pot

[grave jetty]

The path to the campfire isn't locked, and it's a separate map with its own eruption event. They might put a Shard there.

[woeful obsidian]

Not in dessert, not in office, not in maze, not in cave 4 door ground, not in second floor, not in 3 floor..... Was any one going to top vault?

[agile hazel]

The shards are always in easy to find areas, don't know why it would be that far out in the Desert

[grave jetty]

Thus far they've only ever put one Shard on any given map screen. I'm not sure we can assume the game is coded in a way that allows for multiple Shards on a screen. It's possible that Vault will be yet another one-Shard realm, because there aren't a lot of candidates for screens where it makes sense for a Shard to go.

Also, as I mentioned above, the path to the fireplace has a unique eruption event: you can see the explosion from almost anywhere, but only on this specific screen do you get hit by the shockwave from it. It seems strange that they'd go to that level of detail just for an obscure screen most people only ever visit once, unless they plan to do something else to get people to go there again.

[desert token]

you cannot get to the campfire out in the stormy desert without progressing to that quest in the prince storyline - I tried to drag my friend there this morning and they got yeeted

[grave jetty]

You can't get all the way to the campfire, but you can get a little way onto the path.

[dreamy grail]

Prairie to valleys worked perfectly fine for me, you'd get clipped into the ground however on completion after meditating

[agile hazel]

I mean yeah, I'm 99% certain Vault only has one shard location, the Desert

[woeful obsidian]

On the top are riuns too. So might be there.

[desert token]

the furthest you can go without hitting the transition is still relatively close to the main desert imo, but I don’t really think it matters where the shard ends up as long as it actually does show up next time xD

[grave jetty]

I just went back to make sure. You can actually get all the way through the area now (though the krill is not there if you've already done the quest). This may be a recent change.

That said, it looks like you can indeed get hit by the shockwave on the main Desert screen, though only if you're very close to the transition to the path screen.

[lucid ginkgo]

where in the desert is it?

[desert token]

yes, if you’ve completed the quest you can go practically everywhere in that area. what I was referring to is that there is no transition zone to bring you into that map without you having progressed to that little prince quest. new players just have a wind wall

[shut jacinth]

Wait, if the new season is to go in and redeem items in this form, what happens when the item is reprinted? ?

[desert token]

@shut jacinth this should answer your question

[plush marsh]

So they won't return?..nvm their still discussing it

[dire escarp]

@twin osprey, first pic was starlit desert, but reminded me of Tom Zhao's black hole image (second pic)

[crude shore]

yall, where in the world are those chards of darkness??? ( yes i will send feedback)

[dreamy grail]

Prediction/theory of how the season spirits will return as TS' for anyone interested

[gusty cradle]

where are the stones today?

[wispy bough]

Do we have to do the prince quest first or something??

[crude shore]

all of those are very good questions and pnce again:
Where are the stones of darkness today?

[chilly lantern]

I haven't found the stones since yesterday

[gusty cradle]

Has anyone done the 3rd mission? yesterday I did not find the stones in world 5

[desert token]

there are none; it's broken again 🐛

[gusty cradle]

I saw an image of stones in the star collector's ship... but I went and there was no

[crude shore]

from a story perspective the stones should bebin a open earia (no roof) because they fell from the sky, if there was a roof they wouldn't be able to fall. so the vault flors must not be a option and the underground level either. So we areleft only with starlight desert.

[chilly lantern]

I couldn't find a stone in the desert

[cursive tinsel]

Do you think the shards are going to reappear in prairie caves and birdnest tomorrow? Or so you think they will rotate to more positions in prairie as the season progresses?

[nova bay]

Probably gonna be in prarie again 🤔

[chilly lantern]

They should fix the issue of stone creation first

[gusty cradle]

but on the plain .. cave . the stones made a great hole through which they entered. so in the vault the same thing can happen

[fast skiff]

The season is still WIP, what you were expecting?

[cursive tinsel]

There are holes in the cave roof already...not sure the rock came through them though

[hushed arch]

did the shards not spawn today either?

[gusty cradle]

Hay there's a new hole...near the campfire..

[steady pond]

i think theres a difference between beta being unstable/buggy and beta being unplayable to the point where you cant even test what they want you to test lol

[bitter frost]

regardless, when it comes to their possible locations, they have stated that shards will either spawn on the main path of realms or on paths adjacent to them so places like the campfire locked behind prince quest and the jellyfish area of prince are out of the question

[cobalt jacinth]

To you and the updvoters: it's clearly told in #beta-announcements that devs ask patience and feedback because it's really a brand new mechanism here. It doesn't mean to stay silent, but it's not wise to make opinions based on the first few builds of these baby steps, even if there are a lot of room to improve

[steady pond]

i dont think anyone (sensible at least) here wants the devs to rush lol its just that theres a clear distinction between buggy and unplayable, everyone wants the best for the game so im sure things will work out in due time

edit: flashing lights that are kind of ... affecting even people without photosensitivity issues is one of the examples of unplayable im talking about, not really things like quests being missing or etc

[twin osprey]

Oh--so that's it

[cobalt jacinth]

I do believe the shard locos are not coded yet in the game fully and it's not a bug they don't appear, it's just a build compiled in the midst of wip. Until a new build we can farm seasonal candles and test outfits as we usually do for seasons

[fast skiff]

There are other things to test besides the season. The season is still in a very early stage of development; we test what we can test and wait for future updates. Ask for bugs to be quickly fixed when an update has just been released, especially when this season introduces a new mechanic that many players are unfamiliar with, it’s not how it works. As more improvements are made, the season will continue to improve - of course, you’re always welcome to send bug reports in the beta bug-reports channels

[woven dew]

Is the stone not appearing a 🐛 ?

[dreamy grail]

Guys we didn't get the dark zones for Starlight or Ark with the updates, it's a bug, Devs know this, they're collecting a list of what's broken so that it can all be fixed at once rather than like a million updates and people getting upset ab it

[cobalt jacinth]

Beta always will have flashes imo, and making a flash free build in every corner is not possible if we are talking about graphics engine updates and new game assets. Fortunately most players are not sensitive to them and players are warned in update notes and/or known issues. Unfortunately it's a give or take in beta for sensitive users.

[hollow spruce]

I'm curious if we're going to burn dark plants around the crystals for a whole season

[steady pond]

i was there when forest had rainbow flashing glitches 2 years ago, so im well aware its just that i dont think its ever been this bad once again - like the bug where valley is flashing constantly :/ i think we're on the same page regarding patience with bugs and devs and new mechanics etc. but it does still suck for people who don't expect it regardless

[silent lily]

Same, i am hoping for something new as well, we've been burning darkness ever since the game's start, so it doesn't even feel that great personally

[cobalt jacinth]

The internal testing before beta release tests base game mechanics only, and even if there is a bug they already found, devs often need more data to collect, whether which devices (and users) how react. Better hunt these bugs down in beta

[cobalt jacinth]

If it will give good amount of red wax, I'll implement it to my everyday cr and forget Eden for a while

[cursive tinsel]

What other challenges would you like to see?
I like the addition of the floating dark saplings for some variety...or to see the creature quests expand to something new

[silent lily]

Just anything new and unique
An example of unique quests would be the little prince ones

[vagrant fable]

Anyone else on Android suffering severe frame rate drops when you enter Valley?

[cobalt jacinth]

I like the floating darkness plants too, and it would be great if the plants become more original and different from the regular ones (at least, if burning is the solution again in the game which is repetitive)

[bitter frost]

im glad they make it a lil easier to burn em by letting you float alongside them when doing so haha ^^;;

[cobalt jacinth]

I already feedbacked this; It would be great to see a new mechanism instead of burning. For example a deep breath and emitting light from the chest of the Skykids! seems to be easy to code this mechanism and finally some new happens instead of burning

[pale junco]

Flame thrower prop when

[lyric shale]

Is the only place you can complete the 2nd seasonal quest in Daylight Prairie? If so, I guess it's safe to say we have to wait until darkness appears in Prairie again before we are able to do 2nd quest...is that correct?

[rare carbon]

bruh shard in vault where

[digital glade]

Where in vault are the shards today? I'm assuming TLP area but i didn't see anything

[vagrant fable]

Currently, that's the case yes

[cobalt jacinth]

Read above, shard seekers

[rare carbon]

And i can't find rainbow in starlight desert. is this also bug? nvm i found

[cobalt jacinth]

It's there at the narcissist's stage

[sinful bough]

Ooh that sounds really cool! And it would be faster than burning no? Would it probably have a cool down then just so we're not exploding light into everyone's business any time there's a burning plant in a 5 mile radius lmao

[candid palm]

I’m having problems understanding where to find the shards and how they look like.

[gilded parrot]

I ate it

[grave jetty]

The shards are buggy. They don't appear in Wasteland and Vault at all, even though they're supposed to. They appear in Forest but they don't work right, so they can't be used for quests. The only shards that work at all are in Prairie and Valley, and they only show up on certain days, and sometimes they don't work either.

To get an idea where Shards are supposed to be, look at the gates in Home. One of them has crystals growing out of it, and that is where today's shards are. When they work, that is.

[candid palm]

Thank you very much.

Can someone give me a hint as to where the starlight desert is?

[glass spoke]

you know the little prince area yeah?

[candid palm]

Oh okay! I know where that is, I just never thought it had a name

[glass spoke]

I LOVE HOW SKY COMMUNITY HAS NO IDEAS ABOUT THE SEASONAL AREA NAMES LMAOFJWJJW

(including me, of course. what's the name of abyss area again...? /j)

[vagrant fable]

I'm still sad they went with Treasure Reef instead of Crystal Bay

[glass spoke]

rip crystal bay

[vagrant fable]

Rip all the cool stuff that was in beta Abyss but they changed later

[glass spoke]

welp i mean there were no signs of crystals there whatsoever so understandable?? i guess? but still... crystal bayyyy

[scenic jewel]

So I know there's 0 shards in TLP area. But the eruption of eden looks so amazing on the high point of the map (where you find the stretching emote)

[gilded parrot]

I ate it

[vagrant fable]

Noo Skybot we need those to do quests

[scenic jewel]

Spare some shards skybot

[wicked osprey]

..do shards taste good? maybe instead of season is shattering this should be season of fine dining

[vagrant fable]

They look like crystalized sugar

[scenic jewel]

Rock candy

[vagrant fable]

But they're like, cherry flavored, that's why they burn

[scenic jewel]

Or hot cinnamon

[glass spoke]

what if they taste like peas...

[scenic jewel]

feed them to skybot

[vagrant fable]

But i just said we need those to do quests

[scenic jewel]

not if they taste like peas

[misty meteor]

where can find the darkness today?

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[obsidian berry]

like yesterday, it's also glitched and the shards don't spawn

[misty meteor]

Okay thx u hope can fix soon

[obsidian berry]

it should be all good by tomorrow! cause it switches over to prairie and those ones have already spawned before

[halcyon epoch]

Or it switches to Isle and we’re screwed

[ashen tusk]

didn't those spawn before they released the last update, maybe that's what broke it and we won't get those either

[grave jetty]

Maybe? If Isle days are even a thing, they haven't happened yet, so we don't know if they'd be buggy or not.

[vivid cave]

anyone else who has problems with the chat?

[sinful bough]

I know the shield on the elder hairstyles was a bug but idk, it just makes a lot more sense no? The idea that the elders are giving you some sort of protection for completing their constellations, rather than it just being another hairstyle. I'm curious if y'all have any other ideas for features the hairstyles can be given, other than a protection shield. Like maybe each hairstyle has a specified feature to their realm, just to add some variety, or would it be better all around if it was just a shield, so players aren't limited to a specific hairstyle?

[tawny vortex]

People I can't find the rainbow and I don't know where are corrupted areas in vault 🥺

[gilded parrot]

Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! You may ask here if you are struggling, but together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience Remember to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well!

[tiny tinsel]

i think elder hairs having different buffs would give people incentive to complete base game constellations for sure

[foggy portal]

Where do the shards fall in vault? :0

[vivid cave]

i was about to ask the same

[sinful bough]

The rainbow is in the little prince area where that huge stage is with the lights and fireworks and stuff? Butt the shard events are still bugged so you can't find them anywhere today

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[foggy portal]

Ah rip

[frail pilot]

OK so I got this letter in my inbox about Eden and I have done it before so now what. And I thought Eden was messed up to begin with now it is truly aggravating

[foggy portal]

They already adressed that
It's for people who haven't done eden

Yeahhhhh eden became smth-

[echo gyro]

What happened with eden?

[orchid silo]

invites？

[umbral crater]

Where are the rainbow and the shard of darkness fallen in the Starlight Dessert?

[cobalt jacinth]

Random, no schedule

[cobalt jacinth]

People say it's bugged, I'd say they are not coded yet in the game except the first 2 realm rotation and won't find until they appear in prairie again. The rainbow is at narcissist's stage

[cerulean imp]

Left part of the narcissists stage in starlight desert (big stage with lights in tlp area behind the entrance)

The shard event is bugged and is not appearing

[umbral crater]

Thank you so muchhhhhh

[raven gate]

Wait it was bug??? This should become a feature

[frail ruin]

They fixed it because they didnt want everyone to be chained to a certain hairstyle for advantages

[sinful bough]

That makes sense, although if they were meant to protect then I don't see much reason to wear it anywhere outside of eden or either crabs/krills unless you just like the hairstyle.

[raven gate]

I mean from a game standpoint it makes sense cuz then people are encouraged to complete the base game constellations. It’d kinda be like office cape where you wear it when needed

[eternal aspen]

Hi

[frail ruin]

Same with abyss mask, you rarely see people wearing the mask unless they’re going diving

[spark lance]

Gucci crab !
85 candles!

[raven gate]

I appreciate cosmetics that have function cuz then it’s more reason to get them other than they just look pretty

[pure fulcrum]

i see red light in vault .... starlight dersert ... but no event starts .... maybe a bug ...

[raven gate]

If they aren’t an locked to only seasonal ultimate gifts (which currently aren’t going to come back for now) than why can’t we have things like that? And if they gave multiple items with functionality then we could have options

I think these are permanent changes
(Oop if not then that’s a my bad)
(They are trying new things so let’s see how it goes)

[cobalt jacinth]

We don't know but greatly encourage to #beta-feedback so it won't reach live

[spark lance]

Never see anyone using abyss rewards hahaha

[shrewd vortex]

NOOOOO WHATTT AW COME ONN gotta die in eden every week this month ig sheesh

[cobalt jacinth]

Huh? Then why did Sagomay ask feedback about it why and what we don't like about it after leaving countless feedbacks on crawling? Think about it

[pure fulcrum]

eden is so much more ... rn ... i hate going through . my friends too .. it's horrible

[shrewd vortex]

SAMEE WHYYYY 😭

[knotty karma]

Question for beta! I beta tested Days of Mischief and I can still log into my beta and all that. Though do I have to resubmit a beta request to get updated to the most recent beta? And! In a new beta, do you reset to a moth again?

[raven gate]

I corrected myself already

[sinful bough]

I honestly like the animation on its own but when I'm trying to go through eden and can't even reach halfway with the statues in the endless rock rain then its definitely a problem I don't want to deal with lmao

I do appreciate the changes in the statues though, I like that they are in different positions now, with some even protecting others

[pure fulcrum]

last Part of eden is a total mess .... you can't stand up and walk ... it's just like get hit by rocks and die ... that 's unfair ... you cant stand up anyways ... horrible expirience

[worthy gate]

The crawling after losing your light is just as bad outside Eden. If you lose your light to the new crabs it’s quit app time, or lose all your wings.

[raven gate]

I’m wondering why they made these animations hinder movement so much. A lot of people didn’t like it when it was harder to do Eden because of the slower walking towards the end

[sinful bough]

For some reason the red crabs have not caused me any trouble. I dealt with them like once or twice and then they just disappeared lol but they did do a lot of damage so I can see why the crawling becomes an issue.

[edgy forge]

Where are the red shards in Vault? (got worm'd 🐛 )

[reef flicker]

Hiya! Does anyone know where the shards are in vault?

[sinful bough]

Shards are nowhere today, they're bugged I believe 🐛

[young jetty]

So what do you guys think about elder hair feature been a bug? I'm sorry of this was ask before I just came here 😭 I would like to have this feature in game tho, so I would like to know your opinion about it ❤️

[regal wolf]

I don't have sky beta. Is the crawling mechanic that bad l? I am worried that the game will become too stressful

[spark lance]

The moment of changes is now give feedback or stay silent forrever!

[naive solar]

I'm conflicted. On one side, I think it'd be a good reward for people who managed to finish a constellation. It's really no small feat to do that. On the other side, these constellations are permanent. The reward for finishing them being complete immunity against all hazards doesn't seem like a good deal.

[hollow compass]

You can still send feedback for features in Live. It’s never “too late”.

[sinful bough]

Testing only just started though, so there's a possibility that it will be changed considering so many players don't like the added difficulty.

[gilded basin]

i like the idea of having a krill shield but i'd rather have it as an actual shield item instead of being attached to the elder hair

[young jetty]

That would be really interesting!

[regal wolf]

That helps a lot. Thank you

[whole plank]

I saw a purple question mark in the direction of strangers who had entered PNR earlier, do you know what it means?

[sinful bough]

Would a time limit possibly help that? Like how spells have time limits, maybe the shield could last for a certain amount of time, or like have a cooldown or something, but honestly I do agree. Becoming immune in a game like this would probably make it boring very fast for me at least 😅

[tawny vortex]

Thank you angel

[spark lance]

Does sky have a flicker or epilepsy warning?

[hollow compass]

I don’t think so.

[torn girder]

where are shards in the starlight desert? lk there are somewhere where krill used to be but where exactly???

[wanton stump]

its bugged right now so theyre not showing up
yes, its not possible today

[torn girder]

ohh, so it’s not possible to complete the daily quest with shards?

[woeful obsidian]

Was anyone on top of vault?

[shadow yew]

wdym? if there's any shards? no, they're not on top, I've been there

[lilac bobcat]

I hope that in the future of Sky, that the Village gains more shops. BUT REQUIRES CANDLES AND NOT REAL CURRENCY.

But I agree that Ultimate Item reskins should be in the 5 dollar range. Just so the ancient players don’t complain as much

[heavy ruin]

Um, so I have seen the sky change color and an eruption in both the rink in Valley and upon entering Forest from home. What is a shard event supposed to do or what is supposed to be happening?

[worldly scarab]

Yoo where are shards in vault today

[spark lance]

Prefer this feature of shield being add to the elder hairs instead of a random ultimate because it would be too unfair for those that don't buy the iap
But i also think that just one constellation 100% it's too easy maybe a buff for having all the constellations 100% and it having a cooldown just like fireworks staff

[native finch]

Having an Elder's protection against one strike of a krill was awesome!! They should restore that cause that way is more rewarding to finish constellations.

[quaint jungle]

The ult would immidietly become pay to win, fomo and cosmetic limited. Unlike elder hairs being accesable to anyone and more customizable

[spark lance]

Unless they made a free to play version like abyss's Ultimate reward

But it being limited still rubs me wrong

[eager thunder]

Is there any shards in vault today?

[regal wolf]

What if instead of certain cosmetics being a shield, you could spend candles to become more resistant? Maybe one candle could get you a certain percent of a chance to be protected, and being completely immune takes a very long time

[native finch]

Interesting! Like Forest Elder protects you more from rain (but not imune)

[noble radish]

I JUST now realized we don't have any new EMOTES

[digital pasture]

From a gameplay perspective it would make sense for elder hair to get a shield as some kind of Extra to make it more rewarding to have unlocked them. HOWEVER 😭 since literally 80% of the playerbase wears valley elder hair, i feel like giving them that buff with no limit would be WAYYYY too OP

[sinful bough]

Yeah, right? I was thinking about that for Forest but I wasn't sure if that kind of just fell under the umbrella of shield protection. I also wondered about a like, speed boost of some sort for valley hairs but idk how helpful that would be tbh

[noble radish]

A BUG?

My Disappointment Is Immeasurable And My Day Is Ruined

[hasty moth]

valley elder hairs giving a speed boost would be funny tbh. sky speedrunning

[ionic bluff]

I think giving different hairs a different buff would be rlly cool honestly. + it would allow for more variation, like maybe wasteland has the shield, forest reduces rain damage by a ton, valley hairs make u slightly faster etc… I’m not sure how this would work in practice but I think it would be cool

Looks like someone got to the valley idea just as I did same brainwave

[sinful bough]

Yeah, though I wonder about what kind of things Isle, Prairie and vault hairstyles would have since there's not much happening there. Maybe they give you temporary extra wings for a moment? (With some sort of time limit ofc)

[digital pasture]

Or regaining light faster for a short period of time

[ionic bluff]

Maybe peaure could have something flight related? Isle could have something related to wl or rebirth, since there’s no elder hair for Eden. Vault, I’m not sure tho

did I just call prairie peaure..

[rocky nest]

maybe you can call some butterflies with the prairie hair no matter where you are?

[hasty moth]

vault could probably summon a cosmic manta or just have like, decreased light charge time

[rocky nest]

Isle - sliding is much faster, since you tend to slide alot in the sand

[noble radish]

Isle ||more wax ||
Prairie ||(...................)||
Vault ||super fast recharging||

[hasty moth]

me omw to wear nothing but the isle hair to get that speedy 20 candle run

[rocky nest]

what if there are some spots in vault you can use to call some spirit mantas to help pick you up if you have the Vault hair??

[sinful bough]

I feel like sliding would work better for valley no? Isle is like a tutorial area where a lot of flying happens

[noble radish]

BUT
They only work in their realms

[ionic bluff]

Everyone would look ridiculous candle running if isle gave a wax boost 💀

[hasty moth]

as they should tbh

[noble radish]

Because there's not a lot of wax in isle to begin with

[ionic bluff]

everyone rocking those beards

[rocky nest]

some may take the hair off after

but maybe it would actually help some players wear those underrated elder hairs more often??

[keen egret]

Unless you run the trials every day 13+ candle cakes

[noble radish]

EXACTLY!

[queen wedge]

True, I've never worn the isle hair

[hasty moth]

theoretically.. seasonal areas in that realm would count too so we would all just be SWIMMING in wax with trials

[rocky nest]

there's nothing wrong with the Valley and gw hairs, I like them myself but it's nice to see people wear the others

[ionic bluff]

EXACTLY I would love to see more ppl wearing the other elder hairs, even if they look a little ridiculous

[spark lance]

Imagine if praire hairstyle made you jump higher

[noble radish]

But what if it was activated like some sort of a spell?
Like has a timer and everything
So it won't work in trials!

[rocky nest]

I hope tgc adds more elder cosmetics so all elders get equal attention

ok ill feedback

[keen egret]

I wish we had elder pants and elder props. Cause I don’t like most of their hair but would 100% wear pants or wave a giant Valley stick around lol

[hasty moth]

well.. at least we got the extra like 3 wax from the singular candle cake in the tunnel

[spark lance]

I would die for wasteland elder spear😔

[ionic bluff]

imagine elder pants tho. AND THEY GLOW LIKE THEM WHEN THEY GET LIGHT

Didn’t jenova once say he wanted to add more elder things?

[hasty moth]

elder wasteland spear prop. sky pvp REAL‼️

[rocky nest]

I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAS AN OC WITH A SPEAR THAT WOULD MAKE THEM SO HAPPY

it doesn't even have to be for like violence since sky doesn't want that, just make it sit on your back or something

[keen egret]

I think it would be better if Wasteland prop was a shield. For, y’know, not turning Sky into Fortnite

[spark lance]

It's just a spear guys its a prop not a functional one 💀

[spark lance]

or maybe, like festive spin dancer's lvl 3/4 emote, you could use the spear and just click buttons to do cool poses with it

[rocky nest]

how about a spear AND a shield? they both would be used to just do funky poses like the level 3/4 rhythm dance emote and staff

[hasty moth]

i think itd be funny if you could just place it on the ground and it sticks out like the rhythm banner flag one kinda. twinsies

[noble radish]

Useless.
Like the flowers' pot from performance.

[quaint jungle]

Would it be cool if you can choose which ult you want to get first, since both are capes.

And you can choose which side your on than forced on the tree

[late sonnet]

I want the battlefield swords.....

[noble radish]

flashbacks to TLP's sword pants

[kindred fossil]

Oh yeah, would definitely be neat depending on which side you choose to complete from first

[late sonnet]

sword pants toothpick is nice but I want like
buster sword level mega

[wicked osprey]

maybe in this situation you’d have to ‘deploy’ the shield too.. like a little mini game where your wl are at stake

[spark lance]

Hi guys I was wondering if the krill cape looks a bit too similar as the performance ult cape

[quaint jungle]

The krill cape dosent look "krill-like and dark enough" maybe the lack of spikes or shape?

It looks too samey with the other ult

[hasty moth]

i just wish it was a bit spiker tbh, but i dotn mind it really since i think its a little endearing. like our skykids are trying to look intimidating but failing

[kindred fossil]

Maybe we’ll get a better krill cape in a couple of years, the manta emperor cape is basically what I dreamed the Sanctuary manta cape to be

[late sonnet]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
I did an edit of the krill cape the other day to make it lean away from the performance ult shape
didn't take too much, just made the front longer and the back spikier, and I think it already made a good difference in comparison

[quaint jungle]

Waiting for that better 2.0 krill cape, but dang i feel bad for the sanc vets when they see the elder manta cape

[noble radish]

I just think green interior would be amazing
Other than that it's perfect

[quaint jungle]

It wouldnt make sense for a green interior, blue and red are most likely canditates on the colors since krills use them

[noble radish]

It's like a "homage" to their "birthplace"

[gilded parrot]

Hi folks, what's up?

[quaint jungle]

Dont think the bot is suppose to speak

[tawdry pine]

Don't be, hand it over

[noble radish]

The sky

[prime void]

Broken Eden

[tawdry pine]

I may be a sanctuary veteran but the only thing I have complained about with the returning ults is that the iap handpan sounds bad

[dull adder]

i cant seem to get the shards to appear in the starlight desert, am i doing something wrong? I've activated the quest for it and done all of my previous dailies but nothing has changed

[spark lance]

my two braincells collided just a second ago and bam an idea was formed. I want to put in feedback, but I'd ofc love any opinions/suggestions
maybe I missed a crucial detail that would make this not work or something, who knows

• red crystal qg can be found somewhere in eden, hopefully making the season area permanent. adding a black hole-looking portal the blue part in the beginning to get to it would be easily accessible and kinda cool
• when you interact with the crystal there the first time, it starts the season's questline, and you do the shard-finding like you normally would.
• when you finish the quests, you'll be teleported to the same void rooms we have rn and will have a spirit to relive in each. you can only go home after completing it. (maybe new emote/call/stance)
• the spirits will carry the cosmetics for ts

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[kindred fossil]

I haven’t seen any complaints honestly, strange 😳

[fast skiff]

Oh.. I love the sound of triumph handpan. I might have bought it if it hadn't been for the plastic texture they added instead of the metal one 😔

[silk topaz]

Hey all! What are the confirmed locations for the shard event for today? Sorry to ask- I’m terrible at finding them and timing

Edit for reply: Oh!!! Ok! Thanks for letting me know it’s not happening

[burnt hound]

anyone seen the rainbow in starlight desert?
whoops gonna look harder

[cursive tinsel]

The shards are not appearing today

[noble radish]

Amazing!

[kindred fossil]

They’re bugged, will never appear today

[dull adder]

ah I see

[desert token]

my phone made me land in the middle of krill cape stuff and now I can’t find it anymore. was just gonna comment that I also think it looks far too similar to performance ult in its shape. I have the exact same gripe with them both that I can’t really look past, but my krill-loving nature makes me want to love this as well 😭 at war w myself

[kindred fossil]

It needs a fluffier collar so fluffy I can survive winter solely on it

[woven sinew]

Go to the theater

[mystic saffron]

OMG, THE STUPID EDEN ITS FREAKING IMPOSIBLE

ThIS NEW ANIMATION, ITS STUPID, OMGGG

[kindred fossil]

Welcome to the club

[halcyon kelp]

If it isn’t too much trouble, would anyone mind explaining to me what the entire first quest entails? is it just burning the plants in each realm? I’m still a bit confused because of the lack of direction

[hexed flame]

I understand that the reason the cosmetics cost so much is due to a lack of spirits but it's got to be mentally draining for 5 seasonal candles everyday to finally get either side of cosmetic.
because I know I'm not gonna like it

[mystic saffron]

OMGGGGG, I can't JUST MOVE, THIS sSTUPID ANIMATION, OMGGGGG

[molten panther]

You burn the plants until a meditation spot appears. You meditate. You're then going to have to collect lights like in the races. After that you meditate again to see a spirit memory. If it's not bugged, it'll take you to the black room to see jellyfish or crabs. That should clear the quest.

[halcyon kelp]

Thank you so much!!! I guess it’s been a bit bugged for me, because I was never taken anywhere or shown any memories after completing the meditation a second time

[molten panther]

You're welcome. They've all been bugged for me except Valley. I managed to clear 2 quests by doing the Valley one twice.

[halcyon kelp]

do you happen to know if the shards are still appearing in all the realms? I’d like to try valley and see if i’m successful

[molten panther]

They appear only in the realm with the dailies. When the event is active (starting at :00 and :30) you'll see a shard on the door of that realm. Today should be Vault but there's no shard to be found.

[halcyon kelp]

Ahhh alright. Thanks for all your help!

[vocal crater]

Honestly the "two spirit for one season" is not smart at all, did they even think about how the heck theirs going to put them as TS ? 1000 candle needed for one future TS ?
People will get bored waitings litterals weeks to get one item

[molten panther]

OMG! I didn't think of that! You're so right! 😂 1000🕯️ 💀

[vocal crater]

YEAH

THE TS ??? hello ? Someone ??

[molten panther]

Maybe they'll add more colourful orbs? And split the cosmetics 🤷

[timid geyser]

So , couple of days back i heard about us getting shields from krill ...
I was like okay finally the team is heading in right direction..
Later when i found out it was a bug and it will not come to live,i was like it's the best bug u ever had just not fix like like you always do 😅😅🤣🤣

[timid geyser]

They will just break it i think ,that won't be hard ,will come with some bugs , that's all .

[vocal crater]

i hope they split the items in more than two spirit, its just not smart.
What did they think ?
"Oh yeah 85 candle for a crab, whats the problem in waiting 15 days for one item ?"
TGC what are you doing

[lilac solstice]

I'm hoping they end up breaking it up into multiple spirits. Because that'll be way too much for one spirit. I mean one has 3 capes. That's already 225 candles for one spirit

[timid geyser]

It is also possible they do not convert it into ts and keep the area eith spirit as it is ...

[prime void]

Also just because we have fewer spirits doesn’t mean the prices for the cosmetics should inflate so much. 85 seasonal candles is so insane, especially for people who don’t have a seasonal pass - toil for like a month for 1 single cosmetic.

[vocal crater]

17 days for someone that don't have a pass, its insane.

[restive stratus]

help the crab is 85 candles?? i thought 50 was a lot

[molten panther]

Same! But on the light side you get two capes for 85 😂

[quick oriole]

Would you rather have few spirits with large prices? Or few spirits with cheap prices and finish the season in just a few weeks? They gotta gate progress somehow and if we only keep 2 spirits there aren’t a lot of other options

[hasty moth]

even then it still feels like a slog because of how long it takes to get 1 node, at least with 4+ spirits it feels faster even though its quite literally the same speed

[vocal crater]

at this point if they don't change that i will feel like they just want to push people that want item fast (aka not waiting 2weeks for one/two items) to purchase candles
At least, gibe us reasons ? Idk lore explanation ?

[distant shell]

Where are the shards in vault?

[cobalt jacinth]

Ktjn Sky dev already told there will be a plenty of time to figure out how these spirits will return. For example in several fragments. I don't understand at all why do people think a brand new system should return the same way as the old

[molten panther]

It doesn't bother me. The problem will be the TS. Poor moffs...

[slow narwhal]

Perhaps one idea is to change the way the branches work for this season by spreading them out, making things more accessible. Just have a bit more filler with the spells but then players can more quickly aim for the things they’re interested in first.

[restive stratus]

i think it feels faster bc u get the items u wanted quicker rather than going through a whole line of cosmetics

[steady flume]

did the math and if the seasonal heart is 3 sc as usual, then finishing the void tree costs you 193 sc at the moment (that's if I remembered all the prices correctly). this is just to compare the current prices to those of past seasons, this is beta so prices can change

[cobalt jacinth]

Also, they can split these spirits to 1/2 and 2/2 for example. That's a lot of time until they return

[astral trellis]

u rite ...

[dreamy grail]

Reminder: if someone has the UGs, or has 12 or 14 wedges, light them and instantaneously report them. These are hackers. Hackers tend to have either 12 wedges or 14 wedges, never 13 or 15 (unsure why).... Seriously though, anyone with the UGs are definitely hacking, let alone if they're buying multiple seasonal pass' repeatedly

[molten panther]

That's precisely what will happen. People are going to buy candle packs. More than usual.

[vocal crater]

idk man, well, we will see i guess
I just see TGC being greedy, maybe its not intentional but still feel like its yk ?

[astral trellis]

"ban hackers or draw the entire deck"
tgc:

[mossy kindle]

Honestly, there was no feedback on the report, which made me wonder if the report was valid

[dreamy grail]

For live we will either see reduced prices and only have a short season (unlikely off what Ash said about the next season when I'd asked about concept art for this season) or we will see a 70 to 80 day long season.

Meaning we will definitely definitely see that this season will be of an average length of between 60 to 80 days long (during live release)

[molten panther]

At one point I was trying to report someone with 15 wedges and Kizuna call and I kept getting an error 🤷 I gave up after a few tries.

[vocal crater]

Some vet just start to be lazy to take the seasonal candles now, imagine with a 70/80 days long season ? TGC will just lost a lot of players...

[fast skiff]

May I ask.. when did you try to report them? was it before or after the recent update? because as per #beta-announcements, the report feature should be working properly after this update.

[astral trellis]

i made some memes but the screenshot channel cooldown

[molten panther]

It was during Performance testing. I didn't bother afterwards 😅

[dreamy grail]

Me and my partner are just really hype for the season, we are planning on buying the AP and getting the cool things the season has to offer. We already have made some choices of design that I could hopefully pass onto someone to show me in-game which would be super cool, tho having asked staff, we shouldn't be asking on server for outfit requests even if we are beta testers ourselves checking stuff that we just don't have access to (passed seasons)
I'd ask Voi seems I have them added in-game but I don't Wana be a pest to them incase they're busy and stuff

[astral trellis]

skybot paid you to say that /j

[grave jetty]

If you translate those values into time (and if I remember the prices correctly), 85+30+50+20+25 = 42 days for one spirit, and there are two of them. Assuming the season is 90 days long, non-AP holders who play consistently can still get all the cosmetics without spending money. It's cutting it kind of close, and I admit that I was surprised to see the numbers actually work out, but they do.

[dreamy grail]

I believe it was Harbin who told me that, he even had to check with the staff team when I corrected him, as he got confused thinking I was talking about preview and stuff
Correction, it was boon

[dreamy grail]

They'll probably correct and reduce prices likely, or they'll make an exceptionally LONG season to make place for the last season and it's Collab later in the year

[hollow compass]

Aren't the seasons generally 77 days, though? That would indeed mean that no one could finish this season with the current prices.

[dreamy grail]

Did someone forget double candle week? So add 7 SCs in there as well, not much but it's a small boost?

[mossy kindle]

90-day seasons are not realistic, they should cut costs to shorten the season schedule

[hollow compass]

Double candle week only generates 1 extra per day and it's not even a common event.

[dreamy grail]

Mhmm

[grave jetty]

I thought it was closer to 90 days, but maybe I'm misremembering. If it's 77 days AP holders have enough time to get everything without spending additional money, but it's still cutting it close.

[quick oriole]

Tbh I’m still trying to wrap my head around the new season mechanics. I was surprised at the cosmetic prices as well but idk what to make of them. I was inactive for a while and have kinda forgotten how boring the grind can be

[molten panther]

Whoever does the math at TGC should change their job 🤭

[hollow compass]

I don't see how anyone will enjoy grinding for 2 weeks for that one node in each of the spirits. Especially given that this season offers very little in interesting or new gameplay.

[echo mason]

Is there already a price for the rainbow headphones?

[mossy kindle]

Simply set a price for an item, then compromise on the feedback you receive

[gleaming bronze]

I have no idea where the shards are in the Vault. Help me

[grave jetty]

They're not there today. Bugs.

[mossy kindle]

hacking

[woeful geyser]

I’m pretty confused about the update announcements. Are the shards part of the new season, part of a separate event or both? Are their shards that are in each realm all the time or just when the event goes off?

[hollow compass]

No, it isn't. If possible, please report players like that.
However, be mindful of categorising all Chinese players as hackers. There are also people who speak Chinese and don't reside in mainland China, who can access beta in a completely legal way.

[echo mason]

I'm not sure if this is hacked content I saw a comment from Insta from a post on thatskyruo_ well the comment from the other followers says it's like $9.99 😧 (rainbow headphones)

[cobalt jacinth]

The season introduces a brand new game mechanics, like shared spaces from assembly. Now they are shard spaces

[gleaming bronze]

Hopefully TGC will offer another way to report people. Rule-breakers can just not light us, and there would be nothing we could do / report about it, lol.

[fast skiff]

Rainbow headphones are not yet officially priced until #beta-announcements says so.

[echo mason]

I think it's just a comment like estimation or something but yeah

[hollow compass]

Ok. That's not relevant to my comment, but thank you for letting me know.

[echo mason]

Btw there is already an icon for those rainbow headphones xD (just saw that on a post)

It just looked like the IOS headphones but it's upgraded

This channel became silent omg 💀

[quick oriole]

Yeah they have a closet icon and it does look like upgraded iOS headphones

[echo mason]

Hoping it's just $2 or $5 not increasing to $9.99 or even $19.99

[mossy kindle]

Is it possible that TGC tacitly allowed hackers to buy unlimited candle packs because so far so many similar incidents have been reported but one has not improved

[wary star]

this is why they should be cheaper, like actual spirits

not 30 candles cheap, too, i'm talking like less then 20, depending on how cool the cosmetic is

[astral bolt]

It’s pretty unlikely that he lives in the mainland tho since uhem censorship uhem

[sinful bough]

As a broke android user I was honestly hoping the rainbow headphones would be priced with in-game currency

[molten panther]

Yeah, it's a little unfair. iOS user get them for free. Android has to pay money 💸

[sinful bough]

Yeah, though the iOS ones are only limited to when you're listening to music, and to my understanding it's difficult to do the same for android. Still, it would be nice to have headphones to wear all the time for everyone.

[chilly zenith]

the heck?
why not charge both if you’re going to charge one device type only

[ashen tusk]

unlocked the butterfly just now and I love it so much

[quick oriole]

I doubt they’re allowing hackers to do whatever they want per se, it’s more where they need to put their time. They might have to focus on certain things like fixing the buggy beta builds and may not immediately get to every other issue outside of that, they do eventually though

[astral bolt]

No they meant like there is a free version for ios, and this Iap costs money for everyone

[molten panther]

It's not one device type only. iOS users can already have headphones when they're listening to music while playing sky.. it's not the rainbow version.

[chilly zenith]

oh, okay thanks for clarifying i thought they were lettings iOS have the rainbow ones for free and not android
that would be kind of dumb

[echo mason]

Hmm LMAO THIS MESSAGE-

If the first spirit (Ancient Memories of Light*)
1st Cape - 75 🕯(jelly cape ig?)
2nd Cape - 65~75 🕯(baby manta)
Angel (moth pants but boosted) - 75🕯
Butterfly Hairpin 50🕯
Hair arround 44~45 🕯
2 random blessings equals to 10🕯
Not sure if there is an music sheet on the light
Music Sheet 15🕯
plus 1 Heart 3🕯

DAMN THIS IS EXPENSIVE

[edgy wagon]

OMG

[ivory basalt]

Guys how do I do the first daily quest ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ

[chilly zenith]

praying they take down the price 🙏

[mossy kindle]

Maybe TGC feels that hackers are more productive than regular players?

[edgy wagon]

🥲

[sinful bough]

The shard events are bugged right now so it's not possible to complete them

[quick oriole]

That would be…interesting

[molten panther]

On the bright side, I finally heard the Kizuna call thanks to a hacker and it cracked me up. It's hilarious 😂

[echo mason]

Now for the Ancient Memories of Dark

Krill Instrument Ig? - 75 🕯
Darkness Cape - 65~75 🕯
Music Sheet * - 15🕯
Crab accessory - 50🕯
2 random blessings equals to 10 🕯
Krill Hair ig? - 44~55 🕯
Corrupted Mask - 34~55 🕯

YA'LL ALL OF US ARE BROKE

[sinful bough]

Well that's one way to encourage players to just buy the seasonal pass

[echo mason]

Please I can hear is like an monkey ( that call is like this = hu ha hu ho ha hoho ha )

[vital crystal]

Is this called marketing? XD

[quick oriole]

It’s probably not a good idea to discuss hacked content as it is a pretty strict rule here and beans lurk

[dreamy grail]

Part of the season however some areas are broken atm

[echo mason]

Poor early 2023 moths who will encounter these items on the future

They're heck expensive when become an TRAVELING LIGHT 😍🤞

[molten panther]

It has variations. I was chatting with that person so I could hear it a lot, not just a random honk. My friends and I were tearing up from laughing 🤭 It goes from ho! to you ho ho! It's super funny.

[spark lance]

where the hell do the shards drop in vault sand area i cant find them at all

[gilded parrot]

I ate it

[mossy kindle]

One day in the future, the return of krill will take over the entire map, it's just too big

[echo mason]

When we have an Season again in Vault though? I hope if we will have one again on Vault, hoping for having an Ghost Manta cape

[vapid radish]

Hi where is the shard in starlight desert???

[gilded parrot]

I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first

[echo mason]

If Season of Little Prince starts to return- then Flight spirits are coming- THEN ME AS A FLIGHT MOFF WILL BECOME AN VETERAN

[sinful bough]

Shard event is bugged right now. There are none

[woven cedar]

rip

[echo mason]

What if you started sky without any active season

[vapid radish]

Ok thanks, funny how that’s not surprising in the least, but I forgive all for the cape 😂

[woven cedar]

That would be interesting

[gleaming bronze]

I think we witnessed that scenario in the #beta-screenshots-videos. There was a lot of raccoons and angst

[echo mason]

ARE THERE PLAYERS WHO ENCOUNTERS THIS

[woven cedar]

Wait, when Shattering comes to live what emoji would it even be for #roles ? prophecy already took the 💠 spot

[echo mason]

Lol #beta-screenshots-videos HAS A LONG duration on slow mode like 1 hour 💀💀💀

[sinful bough]

Well to be fair this sentient diamond is red, not blue, and also it has cracks in it so I'm sure they'll figure something out lol

[molten panther]

🔶🔷

[echo mason]

Call honks we should have:

Krill Whisperer
Turtle Whisperer

[gleaming bronze]

I’m sure there’s an answer to that, but I’ve never asked because I don’t wanna look like a dum-dum and not know why. Been silently pretending that I do. B)
can someone explain why

[echo mason]

Domino

[woven cedar]

💥?

[molten panther]

One of the two 🤷 or ♦️ for the shards

[quick oriole]

Beta chats go nyoom for new content

[gleaming bronze]

I appreciated that nyoom ty

[exotic spear]

Can someone help me to find todays shard location 👀.

[swift osprey]

Do the crystals fall in all areas of the map? Or just in Vault today?

[quick oriole]

They’re all gone cause the event isn’t working properly

[swift osprey]

Ahhh darn

[split sundial]

Ouu I'm curious if tomorrow we will get shards in Isle? Unlikely... not only because they are bugged rn but
It would be... interesting

[gleaming bronze]

I think it’s just for a single (?) particular area where there is a shard on the corner of the portal door. But yeah the shards are grumpy atm

[quick oriole]

We won’t cause isle is the tutorial level, just like we don’t get seasonal quests in isle

[split sundial]

Yeah thought as much lol

[cobalt jacinth]

Isle never has stuff to avoid moths distraction
Prairie had them already so tomorrow prairie should have shards again

[quick oriole]

Also throwing innocent moths at the deadly shards is insect abuse

[gleaming bronze]

If it doesn’t have shards tomorrow, we get to shave your fur in your pfp

[prisma obsidian]

All in the name of testing

[hexed flame]

Eden used stone edge! It's super effective!

[split sundial]

I mean. In my opinion? The shard quests for moths should be like reliving seasonal spirits. Make those appear for them when they have completed Eden once

[quick oriole]

That’s actually how it works right now, you have to complete Eden at least once for them to activate

[split sundial]

I see

[cobalt jacinth]

You already need your hair shaved missing the word should. In beta everything should be should

[prisma obsidian]

It’s too brutal , they need to incorporate light sabers or something wing per 50 crabs Conquered.. than get hit over and over by a crab devil 👿

[split sundial]

I have hopes that the season will be nerfed when it arrives to live. Because boy is it chaotic rn

[gleaming bronze]

Fair enough. You got off easy this time.

[queen wedge]

Does the dark shard on the portal disappear for anyone else sometimes?

[formal umbra]

It dose for me too, I think it’s a bug

[stiff moon]

Oh hey has anyone been seeing butterflies pop out from dark plants today? Or its just me?

[wooden basin]

Wait really? I hadn’t even got to the top of vault and the shards appeared for me

[quick oriole]

That might’ve been a bug or I could just be wrong then, all I know is what I got repeatedly told on the first day cause most people who hadn’t completed Eden said they weren’t able to do the shards. I had already played Eden a while ago in beta

[reef flicker]

Does anyone know where are the shards in vault?

[quick oriole]

The shards are all bugged and none are appearing, but it’s supposed to be in the starlight desert

[wary star]

gone

i ated them

[rustic olive]

Sky kids really are hungry these days

[quick oriole]

I just actually just remembered that normally seasons activate once you play through valley. If it was active for you in vault that might mean it’s actually still the case with this season even though it’s centered around Eden, who knows?

[plush marsh]

🔺️
🔻

[trail rivet]

We are hungry because of the hype

[wooden basin]

Yea spedrun through the realms so I could test out the Season of Abyss area so that’s prob it then ?

[spark lance]

someone remind me how many seasonal candles can you get per day in beta? i'm trying to do some math

[eager harness]

They aren’t going to release to live without it fixed.

[limpid estuary]

Hey skykids are there any shards today on any realm?

[spark lance]

where is today location

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[neat maple]

You get 25 everyday
4 per realm
4 x 5 = 20
4 quest, 1 Adventure Pass Candle
=25 Seasonal candles Daily

[mortal sleet]

Hi 👋🏽 is anyone having trouble not seeing the new season after updating on iOS. I mean I haven’t seen any eruptions or any shards. Is there something I need to do in order to be able to play new season? Please and thank you

[stiff tusk]

It's only the first week of testing, it's always chaotic and everythings sort of broken in the first week. We have roughly two months of polish to go yet

[formal venture]

I just got a backup phone, and got Sky Beta on it. would I be able to sign into the same Sky Beta acct with no issues?

[split sundial]

Yeah of course... we are in like, the second build of the season? There's a lot left

[stiff tusk]

You have to be in a certain area to see the eruption and shards, but for the past 2 days it's been bugged and not occuring

[modest creek]

Anyone seen the shard today? I couldn't find it... stuck on the quests

[mortal sleet]

Oh ok thank you. That explains it all.

[tulip flame]

Gone, reduced to atoms (krill ate it)

[cobalt jacinth]

@mortal falcon the first 2 quests were able to complete when the shards spawned in prairie without bugs

[formal venture]

Can anyone answer this?? I don't wanna mess up my account

[mortal falcon]

◖ Really ? I did them and they like, did not work
◖ I should go back and see if it's there again

[cobalt jacinth]

Today prairie has no shard rotations, it should have tomorrow
You need to clean shards 2-3 times to make a quest complete

[mortal falcon]

◖ WHAT
◖ They're gonna be CRYSTAL CLEAR ONCE I'M DONE CLEANING THEM

[solid dune]

Glad that burning plants in shallow water is fixed, but lort do we have to deal with it in Live until Season of Shattering update comes out 😭?! It’s so unbearable

[quiet cliff]

Why did I think it was 8 per relm ? I must be loosing my mind lol

[quiet cliff]

Grrrrrr I only completed one quest so far

Anyone experienced the valley foot race bug ski in darkness only shards to light your way

[cobalt jacinth]

I personally don't like that 3 cosmetics at least are only remakes from past seasons or events. (Jelly hair 2, manta cape 2, and the first darkness cape which is a snowflake cape with smaller balls and different colors). I'm a frequent adventure pass buyer in live but this fact (and the unpractical blinding shine of jelly and manta cosmetics) makes me think: do I want to pay for this season? With AP I won't wear most of the items because they are either reused or inconvenient

[pallid hawk]

Poll:
The fur on krill cape looks bad
Yes: no:

[quiet cliff]

I'll not be paying for season pass in live this time for the same reason

[solid dune]

Personally I like it, but I’m biased since Yoga cape and DoF cape are my favorite capes 💀

[quiet cliff]

Tell tgc how you feel they change cosmetics often in beta trials

[quiet cliff]

Send feed back as it's a very good point your making

[iron elbow]

I personally think it's good for iap and ult cosmetics have seasonal alternatives for the sake of f2p players

[vagrant fable]

I personally love the darkness cape, i think it's different enough from snowflake cape and i like it way more

[formal venture]

Yeeeee

[fast tartan]

i kinda love the various versions of the manta cape tbh, like we have similar capes from rhythm, flight and now shattering and they all look good imo. gives people that missed the past ones an opportunity to get it and older players some variation

[solid dune]

People are comparing the dark flower cape to the snowflake cape??? I see no resemblance between them. I love the dark flower cape

[valid gate]

There's tons of mantas in Sky! It's okay to have different versions, they're all unique just like how there are a lot of similar skykids, but none are the same 🥺 ❤️

[west seal]

Yea

[opaque cipher]

Elder shields gone yes or no

[fast tartan]

maybe i just the bird-like style too much

[valid gate]

they are confirmed to be a bug, so they will be fixed soon! Enjoy it while it lasts 😭

[iron elbow]

they already are

[opaque cipher]

Samantha said they were fixing it this update and they didn't, I haven't tested the hair yet, so WHY DOES THAT SPECIAL ANIMATION EXIST?

[solid dune]

I love having a baby manta cape 🥺and the elder manta cape is so cool too, it has a really royalty vibe to it, along with the krill cape. This season has done perfectly on cosmetics.

[fast tartan]

i can see the resemblance in style, personally i wish the dark flower one was more spiky but they are still very different

[viscid copper]

Lord are we not getting any emotes this season? And no voices?

[fast tartan]

i saw someone saying the animation is from something in light awaits? probably scrapped tbh and came back as a bug

[autumn sundial]

Anyone know where the shard is in vault?

[opaque cipher]

Well it was a great feature 🥲

[vagrant fable]

Nowhere, it's bugged

[viscid copper]

So the elder shields are a bug?
It's not in live isn't it?

[random edge]

Getting a little tired of the hug emote from the NPC’s at home.

[fast tartan]

ehh i think it's too OP, besides we already have too many people using the elder hair for status 💀

[opaque cipher]

Why can't they add a way to see where your winged lights go at least??

[fast tartan]

yeah idk why that isn't already in the game lol

[valid gate]

So we have to explore more with friends to find them 😳

Maybe the real winged lights is the friends we made along the way

[split sundial]

As someone who has the Sanctuary AP in live and wasn't on time for the manta cape... I am NOT complaining at all about the manta capes for this season
It gives me a little chance to have something I couldn't get because of time

[balmy spoke]

anyone where if there is a dark crystal in every map and where I can find them? -v-

[gilded parrot]

Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! You may ask here if you are struggling, but together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience Remember to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well!

[fast tartan]

maybe the shield could be added as a spell? we have the krill one but the duration is so short oml

[opaque cipher]

But my problem is that there isn't enough time to get back the dropped winged light, and it irks me knowing I don't have all the winged light before doing eden

[iron elbow]

wasn't the shield a leftover from the emote losing feature from light awaits

[tame pasture]

I think it was a mistake making the original manta cape an ult gift in the first place, given how mantas are some of the more iconic creatures in the game. And also they're just too flat to not make good capes. I'm all for more manta capes in the game.

[keen egret]

I think this is a good point some of us have had similar experiences, where we bought the AP but missed out on the ult because of real life time issues or just joining mid-season. It’s not just a shot at the cosmetics for moths, it’s a chance for the vets to get something they barely missed too

[fast tartan]

hot take but the manta cape isn't even as good as the other manta-like capes imo

[sterile plinth]

Question to folks: is there any way I can complete the first quest today or not really cause the Desert shard is missing due to the bug?

[muted basalt]

Still no clues for the bug shard of darkness fallen dialy until now all?

[balmy spoke]

have there been bugs where they don’t show up in other realms?

[sterile plinth]

Guess I'll wait till tomorrow then, thanks!

[split sundial]

Plus. I don't see these manta capes as "re-skins" for me they are capes based on other species of mantas that exist within Sky
What? Would a cosmic manta cape also be a re-skin?

[balmy spoke]

well, kinda but it’s definitely not a bad thing especially since the design would probs be different

[iron elbow]

I'm down for a cosmic manta reskin tbh

[fast tartan]

i guess some see it as more of the same specific style? when there could be other styles added to sky idk, i like it lol

[solid dune]

Cosmic manta gets no love 😭

[opaque cipher]

Honestly I think the way to bring back ults is to have the ultimate be available in the time of the event that a season guide is assigned to: example - Lightseekers is assigned to Days of Fortune and Days of Love. The requirement to get the coveted deer mask is to have all of the cosmetics from all of the traveling spirits designated to that season.

[iron elbow]

but still it's a problem when that one specific style is locked behind an old ult

[fast tartan]

truee

[queen wedge]

They look too similar in the front

[opaque cipher]

And the ult cost ascended candles

[fast tartan]

tbf do we even have any transparent cosmetics in sky? sounds challenging to implement

[split sundial]

And also. I don't think TGC should do more re-skins
It will reach a point where it is not viable anymore. Think about the new players that missed Rhythm and Performance. What. Are the going to do a 3rd owl hair?
This probably isn't beta content but it's just... old ults should come back in some way. Re-skins work for a bit, but not for eternity

[opaque cipher]

@split sundial read my most recent messages. Celestial, the invisble beta cape already exists, so I'm sure it's possible

[fast tartan]

maybe they are triplets /j

[tame pasture]

I honestly don't really care too much about the whole bringing back ults thing in general. The manta cape happens to be a special case due to being based on something that belongs to Sky as a whole and not just the season it debuted in.

[fast tartan]

invisible, not transparent/see-through tho. i want a cosmic manta cape to look like the cosmic manta in vault

[thick ibex]

I agree with this, TGC did it in the best way possible by also including a krill cape which everyone else wanted and since both are something that is special to sky, it makes sense why they brought back another manta cape

[split sundial]

If TGC wanted exclusivity then TSes wouldn't be a thing
And with this I take my leave

[iron elbow]

how is the lack of cape counts as transparent

[fast tartan]

too bad players gatekeep ults so much 😔

[queen wedge]

Never understood that mentality

[opaque cipher]

The invisble cape has to be coded in some how so it still functions. If they use an opacity scale in the digital art program they use, translucent is possible.

[thick ibex]

only way to fight gatekeepers: bring back ults but better

[viscid copper]

Will the darkness update come before the new season or with the new season?

[fast tartan]

i kinda wish they brought ults back when they created the TS system tbh. there was already so much rage from some veterans so they've couldve just gotten both out of the way i can't help but feel like now it might be too late

[iron elbow]

it would be as simple as deleting the model mesh, no texture stuff needed

[thick ibex]

Wish I could tell you but we're just beta testers, not TGC itself, they'll add in certain things with future updates when they can so best to wait till it actually comes to live

[solid dune]

OGs remember when TGC was testing to let vets exchange their old ults for less than 100 candles 💀

[spark lance]

then watch them be mad at tgc about it
then again, it's funny in a way

[opaque cipher]

Here's the thing, I never SEE any gatekeepers and I lurk every day, but people talk about other gatekeepers all the time

[fast tartan]

some did ask for a refund for some reason 💀

[lilac solstice]

Well they've brought an ult similar to the rhythm hair, and now some manta capes, including something that looks like a cool manta cape upgrade. Do you think they'll do the same for other ults?

[thick ibex]

Let them be mad, if they leave, just leave room in the game for more positive people who wish to play the game, not just the items and guard them from others wanting them

[iron elbow]

they were there when owl 2.0 was first revealed, if I remember correctly

[split sundial]

Man ngl I hope they do. Deer mask 2 would be something I want to witness

[tawdry pine]

it was hard to not see em, they were everywhere in beta but once it hit live I hardly saw anybody complain

[tame pasture]

To play the devil's advocate, the FOMO factor is probably what drives a lot of AP purchases. If every cosmetic from a given season came back eventually for free, TGC would make a lot less money off of them.

[fast tartan]

maybe they stopped playing the game 😂

[thick ibex]

I mean TGC has stated many times before: they wanna bring back ults in different ways, sure they'll look similar but the items will still be special in their own way, so if people don't like it, TGC ain't gonna change it too much unless it's extremely disliked by most beta testers

[opaque cipher]

The story idea was that they were twins though, and them being twins fits from a story point of view, because rhythm and song is all about theater and art, which is the same motif as performance.

[split sundial]

I still vote for OG ults returning but only if you have completed that season through TSes
In my case I am just two Gratitude spirits away from finishing that season

[solid dune]

I think TGC should just let people keep their exclusive ult gifts but “bring them back” the same way with owl hair 2.0. Just revamp it no harm no foul

[tawdry pine]

The problem solved itself out then

[iron elbow]

there was nothing about them being twins at first when performance hit beta

[narrow current]

I see more people complaining about " toxic vets " and "gatekeepers" more than the actual gatekeepers but that's just me.

[fast tartan]

you should've seen some sky fan servers i was in 💀

[queen wedge]

Maybe not here on discord, but they're there

[thick ibex]

The gatekeepers and toxic players are more worried about little things in game than themselves 😔

[spark lance]

there's not much here now, but oh boy, the beginning of performance testing

[split sundial]

I agree OG ults 2.0. is a good idea and it is not harmful. My problem is that... it won't work in the long run. More and more and more... until we get an owl hair 4
Don't know if that is worth it

[tawdry pine]

I still wish for harmony hall hanpan to sound good please
I have the og handpan but heard many of my friends say in it wasn't the same and frankly it sounds like a bit.. Cheap? For double the price

[opaque cipher]

But the ideas to bring back ults are for TWO weeks an entire YEAR and you have to have all the other seasonal cosmetics. Knowing that the ult will come around will definitely cause people to buy more candle packs to finish traveling spirits so they can get the ult

[lilac solstice]

I assume it's because supposed to be a nice little twist in the story. Because we saw rhythm guide there to see their sibling in the end.

[fast tartan]

next time they will find their long lost brother from season of music /j

[iron elbow]

imagine if they add igc owl 1.5 to thoughtful director

[narrow current]

This. Hopefully one day there is a way tgc can just bring old ults back and focus on making cool original ults on new seasons

[fast tartan]

i do like the ult re-skins but i hope this doesn't mean they won't bring back ults cause it is a vicious cycle 😔

[thick ibex]

if they did that tho, the old ults would have the cost the same as they did when they first came out so, idk if that's a good or bad idea 😔

[split sundial]

Boy this is surely a delicate topic
There are so many factors to have into account it is a mess ajsbksbd

[narrow current]

Well id pay 10$ usd for deer mask. Since thats what an ap costs. But then maybe problems with f2p players would come up. Hmmmmm

[tawdry pine]

On short term: ult revamping seems good, bring back the hyped items with a new paint of color/presentation
On long term: "bro it's owl hair 4 we DEFINITELY can't miss it cause it won't come back!" is gonna become old real fast

[lilac solstice]

Probably the fairest way is to have it be unlocked to purchase after you complete all ts in that specific season.

[thick ibex]

No no, not just the ap, the seasonal candles too cause that was used towards getting the ults in the first place

[spark lance]

I didn't quite like how penguin hair was an ult simply bc of this

imagine getting owl 3.0 some seasons later, a neverending cycle of hoot-hoot, noot-noot and beyond

manta cape 2.0 isn't an ult, so at least that cycle's done

[simple basin]

Where shards in vault

/ sorry didn’t know that was rude

[thick ibex]

They're bugged, but please refrain from asking the same question in multiple channels

[tawdry pine]

Many were trying to get the feathers to be turned into a hair so it can become owl hair 2.0, which caused some tension cause "any hair can become owl hair!"

And then 2 seasons later we got an owl hair lookalike that set beta chat on fire

[tame pasture]

I get what you're saying, but "coming back after a very long time" is still leagues away from "not coming back literally ever". I, at least, would be willing to wait for the ultimate gifts I want to come back for free instead of paying to have them early.

[split sundial]

Even tho the Flight ult feathers were an attempt to bring back owl hair, I still think it was very creative and an unique ult

[iron elbow]

were they? they seem nothing alike

[lilac solstice]

If those were technically owl 2.0, does that make performance actually 3.0

[random edge]

It’s ok. Sometimes it helps to use the search function first for a question. Also beta likes us to really search for things first and make sure to add in feedback if you can’t find something. 🌸

[split sundial]

People considered them as owl hair 2.0. because... hair with antennae ya know
I never saw it that way tbh

[spark lance]

I've seen link hair compared to owl hair. make that 4.0

[iron elbow]

man people were desperate before performance

[raw wasp]

I’ve literally heard someone say that they think Chuckling Scouts mask is a “fair Owl Hair”

[lilac solstice]

People joked about owl 4.0 but we already have it

[narrow current]

Tbh i never got this comparison xD maybe the ponytail?

[thick ibex]

if people think that, the goofy smile makes up for it

[split sundial]

At this point everything is owl hair

[random edge]

If I never hear “owl hair” discussions ever again it will be an amazing day

[spark lance]

I think so? having a low ponytail and bangs makes you an owl ig HAHA

[plush marsh]

We have 3 owl hairs

One is pengpeng

One is ...feathers

One is owl

[tawdry pine]

"someone in this room, is possessed by an owl"
"who"

[tame pasture]

Yeti pants is owl hair

[mighty mulch]

Does anyone have a rough screenshot/directions on where the last SC is in valley? I have the flickering bug, its really hard to see. 😦

[lilac solstice]

Me neither. Honestly I just see owl hair as owl hair and everything else as their respective hairs.

[raw wasp]

Yeah but like it doesn’t even remotely resemble it 💀💀

[random edge]

Can you turn up your brightness on your screen ?

[plush marsh]

proud to be a yeti haver and see people mad whenever the ts is not yeti

@spark lance fr i wanted link hair just beacuse the hairtie looks like owl hair

[civic solar]

Hi, does anyone know where can I find the shard event in Vault?

[gilded parrot]

I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first

[iron elbow]

will this do?
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[mighty mulch]

thanks very much! exactly what i was looking for
@ sakiki the flashing was hurting my eyes a little so nope, i just wanted to get in get out ASAP

[narrow current]

Hey ik we are discussing cosmetics atm but does anybody know if the shard event is bugged in general or just in gw and vault?

I was able to do it in prairie and valley in past builds

[spark lance]

no idea abt gw but vault, yes

[split sundial]

Guess we will have to see that tomorrow

[thick ibex]

They did say in #beta-known-issues about gw being broken, but vault for sure seems to be broken, we won't know anything till TGC says "hey sorry, beta kinda broken" 😔

[narrow current]

Pain

[random edge]

And its a long weekend for TGC. Monday is a holiday. If you see devs working, give them a big ty and maybe a pun. They LOVE puns

[spark lance]

Hey, I just watched a few people constantly redeem the adventure pass, is this allowed??

[spark lance]

those are hackers
please report anyone doing this when possible

[wary star]

what

there's another??

[spark lance]

How do I report people who are strangers?

[gilded parrot]

Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ

[plush marsh]

Owl hair and the feathers from flight and the performance yeah that was a joke message btw

[median crag]

Where are the pieces of darkness in the library? I'm in trouble because I don't know ...

[sterile trail]

Why is the jelly cape 85 CANDLES
Are we going on to get 20 seasonal candles everyday now? Or are they extending the season

[grave jetty]

It's not completely clear yet. Shard events were definitely buggy in past builds too: even Prairie and Valley only worked inconsistently, and Forest didn't work at all. We can't yet be sure if the new build introduced new bugs that will affect Prairie and Forest, or if the bugs in the other regions were just carried over from the previous build. We'll know more when the shards cycle back around to Prairie, which should happen either tomorrow or the day after (depending on whether or not Isle gets shards).

[fast skiff]

We don’t know. Prices in beta are subject to change.

[thick ibex]

they'll probably extend the season, the reason as to why cosmetics are expensive is because there's 2 trees, not 4 or 6, less spirits/trees = more expensive items all together

[sterile trail]

Ah hopefully.

[lament mica]

Is the meteor thing happening now? I was in prairie but the sky went dark and I saw “comets” but I can’t find them

[tawdry pine]

They at Vault and they are currently bugged

[thick ibex]

they only happen in realms where the guide is at atm, but since vault is bugged, best to wait till tomorrow and test out the shards in priaire

[lament mica]

Oh I see ok thank you. I thought they said they’d fix it by today 😅

[thick ibex]

They didn't know it was gonna bug in vault, they'll have to fix both wasteland and vault since they both don't want the event 😔

[lament mica]

Thank you Nyx and Stardream

[tepid schooner]

Um , I'm here with a little question

I'm somewhat still new at the Beta Tester

And for some reason whenever I enter a map, my game lags and then it simply crashes, I can't cr at all or leave the homespace :') what am I supposed to do? I reported it about 2 days ago and it is still happening 🥲

[twin lintel]

why does no one help open multiplayer doors i am genuinely so disappointed

[white latch]

Because it’s impossible in beta so you have to accept it :”)

You’re not alone tho

[twin lintel]

there are constellation spirits i am missing and i cannot get them because of it

[plush marsh]

Imagine if they made a season in that area (in the door place) like yk the oreo place

[gray moat]

......i sent a chat message in game and it crashed

in middle of wasteland

right after friending someone

[opaque halo]

rip

[gray moat]

i helped them with sneaky right after someone helped me and then the game just said "no chat for you"

[thick ibex]

All you can do is report it, TGC does look at beta reports to make sure things are running smoothly, eventually TGC will fix it. It could be your device lagging or the game itself, like i said, all you can do is report and pray that TGC fixes it when they can

[white latch]

Ok nvm saw the answer

[grave jetty]

We can't be sure exactly what's going on. It's a bug, we know that much: not everyone is experiencing the same thing, but many people are. Please report it. The information you give to TGC may help them figure out what's going on.

[twin lintel]

yeah the shard isn't spawning

[runic girder]

I can't stress enough to report crashes ASAP

[white latch]

I have 3 days to get that red eyes crab, havent bought anything from the Light Ancient

[runic girder]

I've had one crash in my entire experience in Beta, and it was at Home in the middle of gameplay, yesterday. It was the strangest thing

[white latch]

Hey what if each ultimate cape has it own different star color? Like the mother manta cape has bright yellow star and the krill cape one has a red colored one. Maybe change it star shape too! That would make the krill cape more interesting!
(I’ve Sent feedback)

[runic girder]

I think that would be a neat little touch, as long as the colour isn't hard to distinguish from a non-charged star

[dawn wraith]

Omg I just noticed you said mother manta

Now I'm headcanoning "Mother Manta" and "Father Krill"

THE PARENTS OF THE LIGHT CHILDREN

[runic girder]

THE PARENTS OF THE SKY

[white latch]

But dad left to krill moms kids

[dawn wraith]

OMG THE MASSIVE KRILL IN ABYSS

NOW WE NEED A MOTHER MANTA

[runic girder]

Is there a manta bigger than the Sanctuary one that takes you to the top?

I propose that one be mother

[white latch]

Nope, just Santuary

[dawn wraith]

I thought there was multiple of those?

Also isn't that the fish?

[white latch]

Thats a mermaid krill

[runic girder]

No no no, there's a manta flying around that if you mount it, will fly you up to a "secret" island further up in the map

[orchid terrace]

Would mega manta in vault 5th floor count

[twin lintel]

i thought those were whales

[white latch]

im talking about king of the abyss

[runic girder]

The one with the four lanterns on its back? I was about to ask if they actually count as a manta

[twin lintel]

but that's not in sanctuary...

[hearty fjord]

hello, I know the shard isn't spawning atm but where is it supposed to be? I have never seen it in vault.

[gilded parrot]

I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first

[runic girder]

Oh, I think we confused the fish in Treasure Reef and the fish in Sanctuary

@hearty fjord It would have been in Starlight Desert. We know because the sky turns red there

[white latch]

Wait i didnt mentioned anything about it in Santua- whatever lol

[dawn wraith]

Yeah

[white latch]

Anyway i hope manta and krill can be peace in the future quest

[hearty fjord]

thanks !

[twin lintel]

oh yeah there are. isnt there also one in the forest caves and another when you transition from valley to wasteland?

[runic girder]

Imagine if the manta and the krill start having a MASSIVE battle, smashing into each other, and the skykid tries to intervene

[white latch]

Even if the prince eden is not confirmed to be official in sky game but i want him in this season and stop the fight

[runic girder]

Little Prince? We can't have him back I don't think, he's copyright stuff

[spark lance]

they're talking abt a different Prince ?

[runic girder]

Oh? I don't know of a different one, please tell me more!

[white latch]

Prince Eden, the king of eden, the corrupted eden king from concept art

[sterile cobalt]

so, its come to my attention that flight and performance were the seasons with the longest amount of time (77 days) to complete
from what i know, the memories in shattering cost 25-10-50-85 seasonal candles (in regards to non-season pass holders) which means approx. 76 days to get enough candles for both the memory of light and the memory of dark (5 candles per day- 4 from dailies and one from the daily realm)
with the current longest season being at 77 days, if they keep it only at that long non ap holders would only have one day that they can miss dailies or be unable to finish the season, anymore than that and they would not be able to complete the spirit trees of both light and dark
of course if i got anything wrong i would like to be told, so i can fix it in my very long textwall about the season of shattering and sorry for the textwall, so sorry

ok so to fix this i'll just add onto it here, but while the current longest season is 77 it takes 85 still takes 76 days for non ap holders to complete the spirit trees of both memories, which price up in nodes of 25 - 10 - 50 - 20 - 85 (thanks @/kaistarter#4441 for pointing out things i missed or forgot lol), so unless the memories are made to be less expensive or the season is longer than performance and flight, then it looks a little impossible for non ap holders to complete ww
we dont even know how long the season will be, so theres no telling how much leeway they will have as of right now with everything unfinished, but its looking pretty bad for non ap holders to me rn

[runic girder]

Is it 25-10-50-85 for both "spirits"?

[spark lance]

25-10-50-20-85 i believe

[sterile cobalt]

ooh did i miss a node?

time to redo all of my calculations, i thought it didnt add up

[toxic spruce]

That’s only 1 tree

[white latch]

The ancients cosmestic are trying to play our patience

[runic girder]

If the season goes into July, a lot of events happen in July. There could be plans to have double days

It's a complete guess but something that makes sense in my head

[spark lance]

dw your calculation is still correct

[white latch]

I just realized Santuary season with manta cape also released in july, wow

[placid iron]

85 day long seasons when /hj

[sterile cobalt]

thanks i was struggling this time lol

[runic girder]

THREE MONTH SEASON

[white latch]

So mantas birthday is July

[placid iron]

ok but where :pmantaeye: at tho

[tepid schooner]

Sent the second report of it and still hoping I can eventually play :')

[white latch]

Idk who that man is

[placid iron]

what 😀

[safe panther]

Are we able to get the jellyfish cape or the crab now?
Edit: I started from the first day, but I don't have enough candles to get them so I was curious

[white latch]

I’ll be able to get the krill horn including with crab in 3 days thats all i remember

I haven’t touched the ancient light cosmestic

[twin isle]

Someone said they did math on jelly and it was possible? Can't find math they said was calculated. Idk abt other

[runic girder]

I've just noticed that it seems when you jump and walk around in the void space, it makes a little jingle. I love this

Okay, and y'all placing memory candles on the krill's plants? Genius.

[split comet]

What part of the last kingdom is the mission in?

[sterile cobalt]

orbit makes the same floor jingle 👀

[runic girder]

Nowhere. It bugged out and didn't appear today

[prime cove]

uhh i can't find the shards on the vault, do you know where is it located?

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[sleek pelican]

How did it become 85 days tho 🤔 i count 76days for nonap

[runic girder]

Skybot, this isn't a matter of feedback, this is a matter of bugs

[sterile cobalt]

i counted that too at first, but i forgot a node in the middle of everything lol

[runic girder]

AND if you go stand next to the guide in the void space, it creates particles, and YOU CAN TOUCH THEM TO MOVE THEM AROUND

[sterile cobalt]

or am i dumb
i might be a little airheaded rn
yea
my first was right
imisreadstuff help
back to editing stuff
again

[sleek pelican]

25+10+50+20+85 for 1 tree. Is this correct?

380:5=76

[runic girder]

25+10+50+20+85 is 190, there's two spirits to buy from so double that for the total

It seems it's the same pattern for both spirits

[sterile cobalt]

ok so i misread from someone lmaoo but yes, like 76 days, i fixed it (again) so its correct ((again))

so basically i confused myself a lot

[runic girder]

So, realistically, the season would be something like 80 or so days if there's no double days

[sterile cobalt]

either 80+ days, or cheaper spirit trees

[sleek pelican]

It would be similar to previous seasons with the price atm

[frail ruin]

Imagine tmr area is eden

[runic girder]

THEY WOULDNT DO THAT...WOULD THEY?

[frail ruin]

I hope not

[cerulean imp]

Have to go through pnr just to get to the pity room 💀

[sterile cobalt]

price feels like its more expensive than previous seasons though rn, especially since it takes 76 days for no ap

[spark lance]

it also takes 76 days for performance (in live) too i believe

[sterile cobalt]

isn't performance only 77 days though? wouldn't that leave only one day of missing dailies to be unable to finish?

[lament belfry]

i just hope they lower the prices, 85 candles for a single spirit node is way too much. either make the season shorter, or lower the prices.
i repeated myself, apologies, it's currently 3.34am and my english is slowly dying.

[runic girder]

We have a problem, guys

Performance's total SC is 388

That's more than Shattering's total

[spark lance]

i believe so 😭

[runic girder]

So basically, we need to tell TGC to calm the heck down with these prices

[sterile cobalt]

[runic girder]

I would be fine with the last nodes being 75 candles instead of 85

[plush marsh]

Its more then shattering? I thought the total of shattering is like 410

[runic girder]

The total of Shattering is 380, cause both trees equal 190. If you get 5 SC every day, it'll take 76 days to get all the items

[plush marsh]

how about 6 sc everyday? with the 30 candles

[raw wasp]

Its like the star projector prop from

[runic girder]

We're talking about F2P here

[plush marsh]

Im curious about it sorry

[lilac solstice]

So if they don't lower the prices, they should have the season be at least 80 days long to make up for that

[runic girder]

All the non-AP items should be obtainable in a time that takes effort, but also should not be incredibly strict

[plush marsh]

f2p people won't miss a day if this season is 76 days long thats kinda not f2p friendly at all

They should add 14 days more to that..people have exams and work you know?

[runic girder]

But we also don't want a season to be incredibly long, which is why I proposed either 80 days (+3 from the longest season we've experienced) or last nodes being 75 SC

[copper socket]

Does anyone know where the shrad is TvT

[spark lance]

maybe lower the 2nd cosmetic to 30 and the 3rd to 50? 😭

[runic girder]

25-10-50-20-85...
25-10-30-20-50...

[deep tusk]

Sorry if someone brought this before, I'm sure someone did but i could get to the game just now and i can't find the shard event at Vault, I supposed this is a bug

[plush marsh]

Yall don't want free candles from sc?

[runic girder]

You want to have a season for 91 days?

[oblique remnant]

wait for ios users, when the test flight durationn ends are they kicked out

[stable crescent]

does anyone know where the darkness shard is in vault?

[cerulean imp]

From what ive heard thats how long the build is viable until you update it.

So its not an indication of beta itself

[oblique remnant]

wym?

[fast skiff]

Yes, but the period of inactivity is not disclosed by TGC.

[runic girder]

You will be kicked out if you don't log in for an absurd amount of time

[oblique remnant]

oooh

[cerulean imp]

The actual beta build has a time limit on testflight until it's "too old" but it's not an indication on a time limit of your testing time when you're inactive. That is not disclosed with us. Think of the countdown as something for like a software update timer

Its not for a while definitely over 91 days

[oblique remnant]

inactivity as in not logging on right

[cerulean imp]

Yes!

[runic girder]

This is to ensure that

1. TGC don't hit the limit of users iOS Testflight puts on them
2. that they have as many invited people testing as possible

[wary star]

how about each node is like 20 candles max

[fast skiff]

Yes, as long as you log in one day or another, you should be fine.

[keen egret]

Interesting that there’s such a big inactivity gap. I figured they’d want actives to go bug hunting. Each to their own I guess

[runic girder]

Um...no. that's too low. That would make the season moot in 40 or so days

[sinful mural]

could anyone tell me where the affected places are today? a friend of mine was having a hard time finding them

[gilded parrot]

Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well

[wary star]

fine, how about nodes max 50?

[cerulean imp]

I sort of liked the 50 to 30 and 85 to 75 idea

[oblique remnant]

another question (sorry for so many questions) is that once the duration of the beta thing is over do you need another invite??

[wary star]

note that i'm not saying all of them are 50, just below 50

[cerulean imp]

The event area is bugged in vault today sadly. No shards are appearing for anyone

[runic girder]

So the original is 25-10-50-20-85

A proposed idea was 25-10-30-20-50

Bennybunny just combined two different ideas to make 25-10-30-20-75, which doesn't sound terrible either, but a bit unbalanced between first and third node compared to fifth node

[urban shadow]

You don't need another invite usually once you get in.

[sinful mural]

Okay, thank you for telling me

[agile hazel]

You can easily remove the two 10 sc blessings and reduce the 85 sc node to 75, bring it down by 40. Which would make it 346, which reasonable considering Abyss was 350

[runic girder]

I'm now thinking of 25-10-40-20-75

[rain delta]

50 and 85 costs make me feel so unmotivated

[runic girder]

I agree that 85 most definitely needs to be changed, it's a scary number

[rain delta]

It’s easy In beta, but man that’s so expensive in live 🙄like imagine if you’re f2p - 12 days of seasonal candles and then you get one spell for 50 candles I wouldn’t even bother completing the season XD

[sterile cobalt]

even with the ap those would take a while to reach, i would eventually just forget when i have enough and blindly run dailies just because i feel the need to keep up some form of a schedule

[urban shadow]

Yeah, along with that people who won't have AP. 85 is 21 days of full dailies.

[runic girder]

That's why we're discussing it with math so we have a more accurate experience for Live

[sterile trail]

Bro I’m still at like 76% for the season of Performance. I have missed so many days
I miss them because I either forget or the quests are too hard for me to figure out

[runic girder]

Performance is a lost cause tbh, I don't know why TGC decided that was a good idea.

[cerulean imp]

I like this proposed pricing. It feels less daunting while having more balance. Theres still a goal for the end but its not so long to get to.
21 days is just disheartening. Going for so long for 85 candles and doing nothing with them makes me feel like im wasting time. 75 is still a lot but less so in comparison
(Ping off)

[sterile cobalt]

idk why they changed things from dreams and assembly, there was nothing wrong with how they were but now theyve made it cut so close

[sterile trail]

I just saved up 50 seasonal candles for a dang spell

[thick ibex]

Performance is a great season in itself, it's okay if you don't like it, but let others enjoy it

[runic girder]

Oh, no, I agree that the season mechanics and story is very cool and adorable, let me stress that! I just don't like that they made it so it's incredibly hard to get everything as a F2P

[urban shadow]

I do think that sc prices should be changed a bit lower, I know there is just 2 'spirits' which is totally new since we tend to have 4-6 spirits each season. But 21 days just to each 85 for f2p players is just not that good imo, like by the time they finish one spirit they will most likely have not that much time to finish the other if they miss a single day.

[cerulean imp]

Its definitely not been forgiving in the wiggle room department for f2p. Very little breathing space both in the season and out of it lately

[agile hazel]

Bringing it down to around 346 would be better

[runic girder]

Gosh, now I'm hung up on the fact that I made a bad example of Performance, I'm sorry

[elfin delta]

TGC be expecting all of its player base to be able to log in everyday

[vernal junco]

Where are the shards located today

[sterile cobalt]

i kinda miss when you could miss like two weeks and still be fine
it feels like people with motivational issues don't even get a chance to breath and have to force themselves to play or miss everything

[urban shadow]

So, since there is a 85 sc node is on each side (Light and dark) that'll be around. 42 days for f2p. That doesn't even count the other nodes, and at most we usually have 70 something days of the season.

[elder inlet]

this honestly,sky has pretty much always been that way and i get that tgc doesnt have to consider every player but man do i feel pushed to log in every day so i can get my moneys worth

[thick ibex]

it's bugged, make sure to make a bug report so TGC can see this issue, I'm sure many others have as welled

[agile hazel]

Yeah, there should always be a minimum of a week of wiggle room for f2p

[vernal junco]

So i wont be able to finish dailies?

[cerulean imp]

The fact half the season is for the last nodes on each "spirit" tree is an issue

[visual temple]

Yes, I find that I completely lose interest in the season long before it’s over now

[urban shadow]

Yep. Isn't there a 50 sc node on the light side also?
50 sc is 13 days for f2p players. That'll be 26 days for both sides again.

[cerulean imp]

I was shocked at 50 for light side and i thought 36 was a lot (i.e. mellow hair)

[agile hazel]

Both sides are completely mirrored, each node is the same price on each side. Both 193 for a total of 386

[past perch]

No it's only 20 but you need 80 to get the last one so basically you need 100 for the cape...

[visual temple]

36 is exaggerated. 50 is giving the middle finger to players

[vagrant fable]

I still have 2 spirit trees to complete in live (mellow and Frantic) and the problem is that i have basically used up all the "leeway days" i could with this season, so i can't miss a single one anymore and its kinda stressful to think about

[uneven brook]

Has the beta inbox testing issue with the newlines been discussed already?

[urban shadow]

So 386, so usually f2p players only have the 4 dailies + 1 daily sc in realm.
That makes it 77 days, so f2p players won't even have a week off.

[autumn spindle]

Honestly with only 2 Spirits, they really need to rework the whole seasonal candles system
Or lock cosmetics behind quest progression

[visual temple]

Let alone candle conversion

[sterile trail]

So I wonder, since we don’t get 26 seasonal candles on a daily for Live but on Beta we do.

I’m hoping they at least give us a 100 days or something so it gives players the need to not stress out but at least miss a few days here and there but be able to have enough for the one that costs 80 seasonal candles.

If not then I think they should lower the price since we only get 6 seasonal candles daily (with the adventure pass) 5 if you don’t pay for the adventure pass if they aren’t going to extend the seasons starting and end date.

I already am stressing over performance because I missed a few days and I know what it’s like to stress over seasonal candles and time

[agile hazel]

My suggestion would give f2p at least a week
Remove the two 10 sc blessing nodes, reduce 85 to 75 sc. Bring the total down to 346

[thick ibex]

Remember: prices can change when they hit live, the reason as to why nodes are so high is cause of only 2 spirits/trees, and with less spirits = higher price nodes
Each season is roughly the same amount as eachother so, gonna be close to 380 I think?
I am sure hoping they do something where they lower it just a little to give f2p players a little breathing room but who knows 😔

[vagrant fable]

It would be nice if they added seasonal candles in all realms in live too, maybe not 8 candles each with double wax, but at least 1 full candle per realm

[visual temple]

Lower the prices.

The longer a season goes on without anything to unlock/new quests to do, the more forgettable it gets.

[agile hazel]

Yeah it's the same pricing as previous seasons, but bear in mind we don't have emotes in Shattering, so it should already be slightly lowered to make up for that

[urban shadow]

I agree. 346 sc in total let's f2p players have around 70 days to finish the constellation. Because if they keep the prices and the usual season time of around 70 days, they won't even be able to finish the season even if they don't miss a day.

[dull tiger]

I do not want to grind for 3 weeks for one cape. That's absolutely ridiculous. TGC is being ridiculous

[sterile trail]

True, I really do hope the prices change when it goes to live

[split spire]

genuine question, what do they get out of making the in-game non-iap items so expensive..? like its not like they get money from that so whats the point in making everyone work so hard >_>

[agile hazel]

Don't forget to #beta-feedback all this too

[dull tiger]

It's to try and make them impatient so they'll cave and purchase candle packs

[vagrant fable]

Making people buy candle bundles? Not sure either

[sterile trail]

Already sent something in #beta-feedback

[cerulean imp]

My question is if they add more things (like they did krill hair) will they balance out the pricing between the trees so its not so daunting?
My only problem with that hypothetical is tgat it would load up the "spirit" and make it pricey coming back, but would lessen the price gap issue and lower the prices between.

[plush marsh]

Because! Its non f2p friendly years! /j

[visual temple]

Agreed.

I’m still unlocking Performance outfits, but boredom made me move on to something else.
2 weeks between quests is too long.
3 weeks between outfits is just insulting.

[wary star]

FRRRRR itsso hard

[urban shadow]

Only "reason" why I can see why everything being so expensive sc wise is that there is usually only 4-6 spirits in each season. But there just being 2 spirits this season, kinda has to make up as much cosmetics and same amount of time that it takes for the usual 4-6. But they way overpriced it to where even f2p won't be able to get everything even if they don't miss a single day. Which isn't even fair.

[sterile trail]

@dull tiger would you like a screenshot sent in dms 😭

[dull tiger]

It's just poor business practice. All of this season was so poorly planned out. I have no idea whats even going on anymore. Everything is bad and useless and broken. All of it

[valid flint]

can I ask? Where is the rainbow in Starlight Deserts?

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[urban shadow]

In Gloating narcissists stage. Nearby the big lamp.

[visual temple]

Even so, those packs are ridiculously expensive for a tiny amount of candles.
These guys need help with marketing.

[kind prawn]

In the concert hall.. above

[dull tiger]

Sure!

[cerulean imp]

Behind the entrance of starlight desert there's lights. Thats the narcissists stage. the circle of rocks are on the left side of the stage

[molten thicket]

Actually the skykid should not crawl at all

[lime laurel]

Are TGC actively trying to kill sky to release another game or something? These new features feel awful

[valid flint]

Ohhh found it! Thanks OwO

[sterile trail]

This is all the evil Oreos doing

[molten thicket]

This sky children of light is no longer children of or something light it's just a game of dark lol no matter what challenge they are putting it's becoming a game of dark

[lime laurel]

Sky Children of Dark Souls

[cerulean imp]

They said sky was going to be around 'for a long time' so i dont think their intention is to gouge their own game on purpose but it certainly feels like they're not connecting with what people want as much lately for sure

[sterile trail]

Sky: children of the night

[visual temple]

Absolutely, and I’ll be honest, it makes me feel so stressed out!
I still couldn’t complete more than the first quest, after numerous attempts and hours wasted running in circles searching/looking for the shards - that are bugged

[molten thicket]

It's no longer a game of light the way they're changing things.

[lime laurel]

Mayhaps its secretly a cry for help and their office has been invaded by thousands of crabs?

[sterile trail]

this is all Oreos evil doings, he’s trying to distract us from the crab invasion Faulters mentioned

[cerulean imp]

Sagomay finally lives up to the name of crab scientist i see

[molten thicket]

If this is permanent then better they should stop because for other new players they'll find it really frustating.

[urban shadow]

But remember the solo players as well, with these quests its gonna be harder and most likely more frustrating for them to even finish the quest. Especially with the crystal crabs. This season along with friendship dailies will most likely gonna be tough on them as well.

[languid bear]

If they're going to show a true dark season, have to have more impact. Don't just show explosions like tourists who were watching a nuclear test in Las Vegas in the 1960s, don't just make us melting the darkness. And growing price

[lime laurel]

Sky is meant to be relaxing game about stealing cosmetics from spirits not... endless amounts of pain

[kind prawn]

Haven’t they got rid of the crystal crabs, now you can turn them upside down like usual crabs

[dull tiger]

Even if it wasn't bugged, the way they're presenting this season has me so confused. I have no idea how it's going to work.

Are there going to be eden explosions everyday, every few weeks? How do the quests work!?!?!?

[sterile trail]

It’s about stealing from dead people

[cerulean imp]

Being a solo is rough with certain friend quests in general but the crystal crabs are so rough on your own even as a pro crab dodger

[molten thicket]

Yes it's no longer so called peaceful game it's a game of suffering i don't know what kind of thoughts this developers of TGC has.

[kind prawn]

Last time I did a quest, the crabs could simply be turned upside down like other crabs in game 🤷‍♂️

[sterile trail]

Remember kids it’s okay to steal from dead people. Sky says it’s ok

As long as you give them candles in return

[elder inlet]

that mightve not been the dark crab? last i tried in valley they couldnt be flipped

[lime laurel]

what are new moths going to experience during the eden explosions?? Won't it be really weird for them? What if they don't see anything and instead just witness me dying in front of them?
This is such a great deterrent to newer players...

[gilded parrot]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[misty bone]

there are more crabs in the area.. some can be flipped the crystal ones cant

[urban shadow]

Yeah, crystal crabs doesn't go down when you Long call. Solo players kinda will have to use recharge props/spells/memory candles if they are lucky since they won't have a friend to rekindle them by candle. Some solo players don't even have any recharge things so that's gonna be more difficult

[kind prawn]

Odd, I was in valley quest before last update, and that was my experience, they weren’t even crystal crabs anymore.. just regular crabs

[molten thicket]

They should support light also but what TGC is doing just making the darkness stronger...and making it a game of suffering if they were given a chance to choose from God and Devil will they choose Devil ???

[visual temple]

I know right?? I’ve never been so confused by a season!
Is quest #n solely doable in their realm of origin? (Turns out no… I think)
How much time do we have to get to the shards once it starts?
Is there only one area per realm??
Why do I exist???

[urban shadow]

So far this season is making the game less calming, and more frustrating seeing the eden update and quests. And sc pricies, at this rate I'm worried that this will make players moth and people who played for a Long time quit.

[cerulean imp]

I dont have spells or props in beta so i rely on the kindness of memory candles. Its been rough testing and no matter how many times ive tried i still cant get 1st quest. Valley ive dodged and weaved like 6 times for nothing

[molten thicket]

I agree challenge should be there in sky but not this kind of challenge

[agile hazel]

I think some of the red crabs turned into normal ones, but there's still 1-2 red crabs that spawn in a bit later

[lime laurel]

The challenge should be optional

[kind prawn]

Ahhh.. okay.

Perhaps the next update will see what is really there eventually in live version

[keen egret]

Can we feedback if we aren’t a beta player?

[wheat widget]

Can anyone tell me that how can I complete my first quest im looking for the red stone since the first day of the season there was a bug when i wanted to complete but now i dont find it anywhere if someone can tell me where are the crystal in vault today thanks

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[molten thicket]

We all should raise our voice against so called TGC

[dull tiger]

Like a difficulty setting? I think that would be nice...but it would possibly bring about questions of fairness

[elder inlet]

its bugged for now

[kind prawn]

While i enjoy meeting people in game, my game experience is more enjoyable solo.. unless it a grind for candles etc

[sterile trail]

I feel like they should give players a settings that allows players to go to separate servers where players that set the game to hard mode can go and it keeps the stress away from people who want to relax
And if you turn the switch off it takes you back to the regular sky servers

[urban shadow]

Yeah, honestly there needs to be more recharge props esp for a season like this.
In valley, you yourself saw me struggling to even burn the plants by the shards without getting hit by the crystal crabs. Since I didn't bring my recharge prop, I almost lost a wl. If I was trying to do that myself, I would for sure lost much more wl since I didn't have anything to recharge or get so frustrated and give up.

[visual temple]

Yes, but do so in #live-feedback

[lime laurel]

All the new evil eden stuff could be like a world you enter seperate from the usual place? Idk maybe they can put more lore stuff there for a reward for people who want the challenge. Or more light spots

[granite raven]

I only just got on beta after months of inactivity and I see a whole new season-

[agile hazel]

What no, if the feedback is about beta it goes in #beta-feedback

[molten thicket]

They removed the Elders shield and also no protection against darkness what kind of game is this ok i agree that there should be challenge but not these kind of challenges which makes us so frustrated with sky this is just sky game of darkness they should change the name of it or sky game of the dark

[wheat widget]

Still bugged seriously the third quest is also out but I haven’t even completed my first one 😒

[chilly zenith]

looking at these comments on the season, i might be seeing disappointment in the future

[kind prawn]

The current season is unlike any previous one, as far as sprites and emojis go, perhaps we just need to get used to it

[languid bear]

If even the fourth quest is a quest that melts darkness, I wouldn't like the fourth quest, it's boring.
And it feels like this season quests plot was made with no sincerity! It is not good to melt the darkness for three consecutive quests. So I hope the next question gets better.

[urban shadow]

The cosmetics are good, but way overpriced sc wise.

[cerulean imp]

I dont condone fearmongering and mobbing a company thats making an evolving game but i definitely think constructive and thoughtful and collective feedback is necessary so they know what we are affected by, why, and what they could work on. Theyre people working on a beloved game trying to enact emotion and this is them trying something new. We should try our best to give as much info as we can to help it be its best version

[sterile trail]

Well hopefully they fix it since this is only the fourth day of the season being released

[chilly zenith]

yeah dont start a riot over it, thats a bit much

[lime laurel]

Players shouldn't have to get used to something that damages one of the core promotions of their game. It's ok to change things up a bit, but to actively add features that hurt players and remove features that players enjoy? No. No we should not get used to it. This is fundementally poor game and business design

[molten thicket]

But i see it's evolving backwards.

[sterile trail]

They wouldn’t prolly listen if we responded so hostile

[languid bear]

Yes, the collective voice is important. It's better to collectively flock to TGC than to sit tight and believe it will improve on its own.

[urban shadow]

To be fair, this season just came out not even 2 weeks ago so obviously there is a lot of bugs. That's why us beta players help point out bugs and give our feedback.

[molten thicket]

We should talk to them in a proper manner which they will accept it.

[chilly zenith]

season only came out to you guys like 4 days ago im pretty sure, so this probably (hopefully) isn’t the final draft

[kind prawn]

Used to it, like a new pair of slippers, not as a experience we settle for.. the builds have so far been pretty buggy, so we are not experiencing what we are meant to, I was simply suggesting being open to something new/ different.. little else

[viscid arch]

So is completing the first task for daily mission today is impossible? Or does anyone know how to do it

[agile hazel]

Do also bear in mind that we've only experience an extremely buggy version of what the event is intended to be. Yes I agree that there are definite improvements to be made but it's a bit early to jump to 'they're ruining the game' or 'the season is awful'

[sterile trail]

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not ;-;

[urban shadow]

Most of us haven't been able to finish it, it is bugged.

[woven cedar]

Oof

[vagrant fable]

Oh wow, you missed the beta chat going crazy over the lack of updates and the season hype