#beta-discussion
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I think these candles could be really helpful if you go too far ahead and don’t light enough of the shrines to recover from a hit safely
Which happens to me a lot tbh 
it wasn't a discussion, just players pointed out that the number of shared memory candles per server had increased again. Sagomay later said to send those comments in #beta-feedback
or this one spot at the constant rain zone, where there's no rain and you can give yourself a bit of recharge 
I think we have enough options for recharge at this point. Fire props, recharge potions. They don't litter the place and they're also much more effective.
they dont really charge that fast anymore unlike before sadly
the burning icon and the shared memory candle clutter between each other a lot.
For the record, sending specific feedback to #beta-feedback is much preferred to a ping because I won't always be able to keep up with the channel. 🥲 Sometimes I or another person from the team though will come here with a specific question in mind, and in those cases pinged replies are helpful!
For shared memory candles though, at this point it would be super helpful to share the main takeaways of your feedback in the beta feedback channel, since it's a general topic. 
Did they remove the turtle? Where do i claim it AGAIN? I am aware that it was placed in the props inventory but when i checked it, its icon is dark even though i claimed it before.
Seems to be unclaimable at the moment...
Aand android 8 issues haven't been fixed 
Is it me? Or the Turtle Accessory seemed like I haven't purchased it yet and I cannot purchase it on IAP Shop anymore?
It seems to be unclaimable at the moment. And no it's not just you.
sky has TIKTOK???
Yep
For awhile now
TikTok is listed in the social tab section from the cog menu
damn i didnt know, guess it because i never used tiktok 
Dang, Nile Rodger guitar beats are really sicks, I'm still learning how to play in Sky
Since we have e-guitar / base guitar in Sky now, why not drum in Sky? 
I do the IV ACT, and after the act, it span the camera to a location where Music Shop is located but nowhere to be found. Hehe.
THE LIL TURTLE IS AFRAID OF HEIGHTS OMGG BABIII

Oh they finally fixed the trial meditation bugs huh
Well good now i dont habe to turn off internet to force the meditation to load
My little turtle is gone. Is this a bug?
I found that hair feathers and hair are not the same color. Is this a bug?
The turtle has gone somewhere else
I hope they bring him back!
Oh! I found him, but he’s inaccessible.
These memory candles are getting ridiculous though.
That and they are just being cluttered all around. I think they need to be scrapped.
Grief control, whoop whoop
eh, could be a nice addition to options; Hide Messages (hides all types of message boats and memory candles)
that would be a nice addition but i still think the number of memory candles on a map at any given time should be reduced
OK BUT BUT
FOR ANTISOCIAL MOTHS LIKE I WAS
SHARED MEMORIES COULD BE A WAY TO WARN THEM ABOUT KRILL OR SHOW THEM HIDDEN WL OR OR OR-
just asking is the big boi turtles gonna stay forever? i will send feedback if it doesnt
forever
At least we can open the game now 💀
i'm waiting for the whale to hit the turtle
btw they should add air on top of the turtles big shell when it swim underwater, what do you think of this feedback?
Even with the reduced # of candles and me blocking all badly placed candles I still log in every day and find new ones. I can't imagine what live is going to be like 
sky is about to look like a frat house yard the day after a party /j
Isnt the wax enough to keep you underwater
yeah the wax it disperses kinda is an oxygen source for following skykids
you can't sit on it underwater anyways
It's permanent
i feel like the game is trying to make santuary the best area ever, i'm glad to be born from santuary season 
I didn't see people talked about this but probably because I don't come here often so I might have missed this info
I couldn't get into Eden (beta)
Whenever I get in, the screen will stuck in white and cannot do anything until the window pop up saying Sky has stopped working so I can close the game that way
Am I the only one?
I crashed going into eden via the home portal, the workaround i used was entering via the switch area (idk if vault entrance causes a crash)
was there an update that made it so you can't record text with a shared memory
just double-checking
I do hope the ult cape color changes to a darker black/navy blue, it looks dull like tlp capes
Oh OK thanks!
I reported the bug, I think a few days ago before today's update, I already have gotten a crash but I forgot to report it. It might have been lying around for a few patch now
Please bring back Instagram or Facebook
TikTok is a dangerous app that takes personal information
Doesn't Facebook and Instagram do that too
All social medias take information- insta and facebook are so much worse than TikTok too. Like. A billion times worse. Yeah- but yeah, every social media on the planet takes personal information and stores it, its why you dont get random adds ob youtube and why you have an fyp and why your insta feed shows you what it does. No social media is better than the other but the fantasy that one takes less than another is a lie, we are all poducts to them, so yeah it doesnt really matter. Sorry for the rant 
Is there like a place to post art for beta? Like I drew my beta skykid and wanna know where to post it
You can post it in #beta-screenshots-videos
Thank you!!
Thank you. But I know that. 
Please note that TikTok is more dangerous.
care to explain why?
#beta-screenshots-videos message
That's true, android is the hardest platform to optimize games, since there's a lot of models from different companies
i just think they need more engineers both in gameplay and technicalities especially familiar with android itself, TGC itself is mainly artists
My last hope is that with this really big investment they got, they will expand the engineering team on this area
So they basically added dirt and dust. WoweeWowiee
🐢 Available as a bonus at the premium candle shop…. Im confused
Hmm, if the tiny turtle climbed down to the shoulder, does that mean those who bought the turtle before this update will never get it back ?
I have a friend who didnt buy it when it was a head piece and now cant buy it
i bought the headpiece beforehand and i can't buy the new one either
Let's make a game: honk every time someone asks when tgc is handing out beta invites
let's not
I know, but everyone who sees someone holding it tells me to report
because that's the right thing to do? it is not obtainable in legit ways (except in some cases)
I heard that the person who got him before was returning the old version (it's a little hard to express in poor English)
Usually people who legit have the ult umbrella don't wear it often, the ones who do are probably trying to show off
in beta, that is
(i hope its okay for me to enter !!) is there a umbrella that isnt a ult item? i have a friend who has a umbrella an hopefully dont gitta reports them :'3
there is
it has a light purple handle, it's easy to tell them apart
Also the yellow summer umbrella
purple umbrella ?
Blue Ult Umbrella is Real and it's unobtainable in BETA.
Purple Ult Umbrella is Fake and every testers have it
WHY ?

it really is not obtainable unless you broke the entire game which is harmful to both the community and the devs. like i said there are some special cases, when tgc gave some players ults for testing, if you report those people, they won't get banned
1- the season was too short for anyone to get it
2- everyone's progress got deleted
(except for the pass)
do you mean the pendant??
yup
oh. so everything was really wiped except for the pendants?? thank you! I was really confused when I saw someone the other day post that they have the pendant from season of gratitude in beta
i think we saw the same thing, it's a 100% legal
?!? i talked about this same thing some time ago and was told something slightly different. either way, my cosmetics from lightseekers are still there (i didn't start touching the beta TS until a couple spirits ago)??
Quick question, the turtle shoulder buddy how to kinda obtain that? Cause to me it says that i should purchase it from some bonus area and I don't quite seem to understand..😭
it's a bug, afaik no one can get it right now
Purple Ult umbrella is "legal", but it's actaually pretty rare! Only players who bought it during lightseekrs beta had it show up in their closets some 2 years later. If you didnt buy it during beta lightseekers, you wouldnt have it. For ecample: me
I beta tested lightseekers, but decided to do a different spirit instead of the one with the to-be ultimate. the purple umbrella got removed mid season test
close! Progress wipe actually occured before the game launched to live in July 2019. However, Gratitude and Lightseekers ultimates were not obtainable from testing the seasons, because seasons back then only ran about 2-3 weeks, and did not have a seasonal candle boost, unlike seasons tested in beta now. You were lucky if you could complete 2 lightseeker spirit trees before the beta period for that season ended.
Pendants from both seasons though are possible, although theyre a little rarer just cause the beta test was smaller back then + its been some time
In any case, it's good to report anyone with those two ultimates if you encounter them. If it happens to be the rare instance of a legitimate circumstance such as a dev, or a case where an item is gifted to someone by the devs (for example, iirc a foxband member has a deer), then a report wont hurt their account. 
This is not true. There has only been a progress wipe before iOS release in June 2019 and before that only Winter/Rhythm and Gratitude were tested. Lightseekers was tested after that and only ran a short time, so that people didn't have time to collect the ultimate. @wicked sedge @tawdry pine
Oh, Pines already replied.

lightseekers beta cycle memories such as the hoard of capeless moths at home because they couldnt enter isle due to it crashing 
I forgot to tag the other two so its good you answered too!
Omg, I forgot about the moth thing. Aw, this makes me miss Cris and Ana.
They were so active back then and made fun videos.
Just going on by memory at midnight 
i remember i met the chriswithabeard in the office back when it was the New Secret Thing everyone was trying desperately to find! I loved his videos
Those were the days, eh? 
I remember seeing that first picture from the office posted into screenshots by the lucky finder and everyone just losing their minds
so much fun hunting for it
And rumour that the entrance was in Orbit! Or was it actually there at first…? 
i think it was bugged so sometimes if you went through orbit you'd appear in the office upon rebirth..? Not sure! I just remembered being grateful it was cleared up that the orbit entrance was a bug before i threw myself into eden 
the theory discussion on where this hidden entrance could be was so much fun though. Was a great scavenger hunt feeling
I don’t even remember if I found the entrance myself or if someone took me there eventually.
my guess it was somewhere in vault, but i think someone else gave a hint as to what floor it was on. (perhaps it was chris?) Tara was the one that took myself and a few of us into it though for the first time, cause back then no one had office cape, we all had to rely on you OG beta testers with your beta capes 
Aw! Yeah, it was a mad rush there for a while. I remember feeling so proud to the see the ending credits with the little beta cape and thank you. That was a special moment.
With beta lightseekers I still very much remember the pain of navigating the bugged out floating
spirit combined with the chat crash...mainly because I had to do that dang quest like 5 times in a row 
hearing all the OG pre-live beta stories from you and others was always such a favorite thing of mine!
Awww, thank you!
(And hush is still a pain in the proverbial behind, lol!)
Honestly, my memory can be a bit spotty at times. So I’m grateful we have Shira and Tara’s archives. I wish I had been more structured in my photos and testing.
absolutely! its also just so nice having a visual or a video reference if you're trying to describe something
(and also also its just plain cool to see!)
A lot of my old beta stuff was lost when the beta group on FB was archived, because I was stupid enough not to download them.
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
oh wow that's actually really cool, that's a really nice way to have the... 'ghosts' of other players help boost you in your own environment; reminds me lot of placing ladders and bridges that will show up in other people's game's for them to use in Death Stranding
Well this was a neat history lesson of beta, will come back to back read when brain functions better 
The deep call feature is good, but only to an extent. The memory candles I’ve seen that used them created bright halos that were almost blinding, because the player was “spamming”. This is also a general problem especially in enclosed spaces, such as 8-player elevator.
There is a misconception that deep honking promotes server merges.
they spammed deep calls? how?
deep calls can only be done in large 6 second intervals
with call spamming, yeah that could become a problem, i could definitely see a lot of people just record the candle with crab call spam and the double tap 'glitch' to make it louder
maybe, like when people spam emotes in real time, the recording will get quieter if actions are spammed?
Take 6-7 other players trying to "merge servers" at the same time
no i know, but that's not... that bad?
hm
maybe like with my solution up there, not jsut the sound will get dimmed, but the light effect of the call too
(only to recordings, if someone spams deep call in real time in 8p room i or someone else will spam reject at them and the moth will get the message)
(now that i think about it tho, muting/dimming the light effect in real time if someone continues to spam it wouldnt hurt anything tho, and deep calls can often make the game laggy so it might help out a lot to stop spammers from being visually and vocally annoying. the deep call will still have the same effect of giving light and calling butterflies, just a bit more invisibly)
OOT but I’m more surprised at the end of the statement here. It doesn’t?? 
I’ve tested (in live) to wait with and without deep calls since a long way back, also when the plants are not burning as they should, and more often than not, deepcalling does in a way makes the server quicker to merge, helping the flame in our candles to burn plants. No idea how, but just my timing back then shows so, several times. It’s new to know that deep calling isn’t really useful to anything aside from charging/calling people. 
Ktjn stated that deepcalling has no effect on server merge
I see the turtle got moved but how can I get it again or am I not able to get it now :(
i see thank you 
Final invite wave .. does that mean there won’t be invite link in this season any more?
Not unless they need new testers, so probably not while the season is still being tested
Get it , thank you 
okay but, hear me out..
forest season based on fairies and crystals, with a mushroom hat as a hair accessory. 
fairy wings cape. 
Seems like this could go in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
I'd love fairy wings
They reset the node i have unlocked before without returning the candles i used before to unlock it. Just wow
Hidden forest needs to stop receiving seasons for a while, it's been 2 seasons or 3 just in this area
true, but it's still an idea. that theme only goes well with the mystical theme forest has. 
Why sky beta don’t update auto 
Vault of knowledge It is one of the few interesting areas for a season, but TGc never gave as much attention to making a season in this place as in the Isle of Dawn.
and sorry, what about valley? it has got a lot of seasons too, but i don't see people complaining about it.
Valley received 2 seasons (considering the current one as a season in the valley)
so did forest.
assembly and flight.
but sure, i do agree we need more vault seasons. i'd love to see a starry themed season.
I would say Belonging season had a mini season spot in the forest
what is the dinner table
Can we purchase turtle accessary again? its just gone and i wanna test it
Also
Sorry, I missed the season
Every realm got new area during Belonging season, so forest too
Well I don't know for sure, I only remember this location, as I've never played this season so I only remember that location in the Hidden forest as a new location for a season
But the season that was themed in the Hidden forest and the Lightseeker, does not mean that it is exclusively from that place, but that it was themed.
Didn't realize this was beta testing discussion
Sorry, it ends up extending to that, but we're talking about the current season and how much season there is on other maps.
still, turning down an idea simply because the place it takes place in already had some seasons in is just.. eh.
but i guess it's just my opinion.
and again, just an idea.
So... season before enchantment doesnt really had based realm theme
so thats why theres spirit everywhere
eh imo fairies and crystals, mushroom hat etc fit in vault more
considering it also gives TGC an opportunity to show off the capabilities of the engine
true, could also fit there.
but it'd be a good opportunity to add more green capes (please add more green capes-).
moss cape with tiny flowers on it.. 
Wish we had more purple and green pastel shades… plus orange maybe
I dont really care getting more seasonal maps in same realm.. they'll add it anyway carefully and it depends on story of the season
And devs said they want to add another realm more than we have now
a good ult to make for a future vault season is cosmic manta cape.....
i am just curious
is Performance a sequel to Dreams
YEAHH GIVE ME MORE COOL TONES
I guess not... I think its for Rhythm cus that owl guide appears again
the
what
imo rhythm guide disbands the troop and teaching 4 spirits in village
at this point shared memories should be limited to shrines... 😐
they really are very distracting even when not annoying
i find them annoying precisely because of the distraction
and well i play sky with a controller so uh...it feels like a century to pick the right button
even if you're on mobile, seeing them everywhere is still annoying, it kinda ruins the scenery, i guess..
i can see them becoming an upgrade for the usual message shrines, you can choose to write a written text or record yourself
its good that there are controller players on beta, you are a savior to us switch players 
i really wish they were only used in the village theater...
Can someone help me record a short clip of the head bopping emote (the icon)?
text wall, but i can definitely bet someone has suggested graphical settings but nothing is stopping you from giving feedback although technically that's #live-feedback
No i was wondering if y'all okay with this and wondering if any changes needed
i will delete that dw 
also i just kinda assumed TGC never did much settings much anyway in their games (all of em), so i can bet they will need to build some new infrastructure to support toggling graphics... just like many other things that would be helpful if we could toggle it on/off but they can't simply do that due to the lack of infrastructure
Yeah right, but hey atleast that will stay in eyes of tgc
Guys if i change phone will my beta account remain? Will i have my progresses saved?
i hope they do more graphics toggles too, it could help people on older devices and also let people on stronger devices like the switch crank up the quality
I just want the motion blur to be off
It's so ugly
I preffer it on. I like motionblur in the game. Makes bit more realistic and smooth
Can you answer please
Android to Android or android to ios ?
or ios to android 
iOS to iOS
Only if you add the same email or apple id then yes
Oh ok thanks
more on shared memories
its really hard to make an all universal placable everywhere thing and not let it stick out especially when you can place lots of them
even technically the usual wax candles stand out, we just got used to it, but not you abyss entrance red candles, you will always stick out... 
people did suggest more blending in stuff like mushrooms or flowers etc.... but it will still pop out in other non natural areas, colors are also an issue
death stranding have a message system where you can pop messages everywhere but it didn't stand out as much because the thing displaying the messages, in sky in this case is the candle itself is small in size, however the landscape being all dark gritty rock also contributes to that, just like how water in sky is all the same so boats don't pop out so bad, because its natural
in my very own opinion areas in sky are simply too varied in textures, colors and lighting to support shared memories in its current form
the thing about regular candles is that the devs have carefully placed them in spots where they look nice, and also they always come in clusters so they don't stick out alone like the memory candles do
but when you let players place single candles wherever on the map, it becomes crowded and not aesthetically pleasing at all 
You're welcome
very true... looking at you floating memory candles
Except electro guitar, is there any other instrument have fermata?
not yet at least, thats the first one!
i hope they'll be updating the flutes at least to have that property 
Thanks, i didn't have other instrument so just asking. There are more instruments need that function, like flute
all wind instruments should get it tbh! we wind players have stronger lungs than one could expect! 
The piano should get one as well imo
That way I don't need to spam a key 3 times per second to get a longer note lol
i was just thinking maybe if you cant get a heart from the memory candle if that would help the problem
When you had good feedback for performance + beta but can't remember it

Guys why can’t I join the beta tester?
Same the servers are down or something
You must wait for open slots to become a beta tester. Please see #beta-faq more information on this, and how to get notified when there are open slots
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Ah servers back up for me
heyya. do you guys have list for the ultimate price? and which one come first? is it the penguin hair?
we can’t give out information and nothing is written in stone yet it might be changed
ahh ty
when was beta last open lol
I really like the idea of shared memories but yeah it needs development i.e being able to toggle or filter them somehow
We have a free pants correct?
This would be fantastic
At this time the ult order is mask --> cape --> hair
Don't count on it until season reaches live
True.
But I am still hoping it stays like that
And we get the scarf cape for free
You could try and convince the devs with #beta-feedback 
Otherwise..
This season is going smoothly. Feeling alot of season of dreams vibe from it
Probably cause the theater is located in the village 
November of last year
Definitely gave everyone a spook
I missed the last wave by literal 10 minutes

I missed the Belonging wave by a few minutes too
Ah, beta invites
I remember getting my invite on the first try and going out of my way to basically clear my storage and relog over and over, for maybe a week or so, just to download it 
I was freaking out along with some friends and only I got in 
I remember when we all lost access and had to reapply, and they said it would be every season
thankfully everyone gave their feedback on that 
Honestly, it was a nice thing to experience while it lasted.
You were always on your toes, you really have to make an effort to just volunteer
Waves of new testers are "scheduled"
While it's more of a "relax for months then leg it on a random date" now, it was fun to see 
Man reminds me of my beta invites experience. I managed to get into beta during sanctuary but the app said it was full. It was not until mid prophecy testing that the app was finally installable for me.
Sanctuary invite waves were horrifying times 💀
Yeah that was no fun
I was technically a tester but I couldn't actually test
How do i get in Nintendo area?
Hi, does anyone know where I can get the shoulder turtle? I purchased it in the shop before the changes were made and now I don’t have it anymore
You can’t get into the area without the switch capes which were in testing for a limited time
😳 y’all are old, I didn’t even know what sky was then, I’m a sanc moth 
i wish all portals had a day/night theme
Oh damn so i can only get there now if i added someone who has it 
Yes sorry!
i can take you if you want 
shoulder turtle
Yes! Plz i need an english speaker friend all of skykids I've met are speaking chinese my translator can't keep up now
so, i had to uninstall MC STORY MODE to be able to updoot only... 35MB
well, all for the guitar. the guitar is what matters.
You can add me too if you want, I would have offered to take you but it’s 7am and I’m sleepy
can someone please tell me how I can get the shoulder turtle again 😢
It’s currently not possible I don’t think, probably in a later update
Thanks Loop
got my Guitar👌🏼
I have a question about the new season. One of the graduation ceremonies of the new season looks like owl,which is the graduation ceremony of season of rhythm. Will his appearance change? He seems to lack the characteristics of this season. I personally hope to add some characteristics to represent the new season.
We have no idea what the devs have in mind.
??? You shared this in qnh and haven't deleted it yet
They’re using a translator & might be confused, if they haven’t removed their post just simply report to #contact-the-mods
Aight, it's gone anyhow
Beta is always subject to change, but its design will likely remain largely as it is now
I'm so sorry that I put the problem in the wrong place. Thank you for reminding me.I have deleted it.
Thank you 
I got server merged with a blocked friend on beta twice in a row, with no mutual friends in the same server 👁 👄 👁
Keeps happening to me too, not sure why
Easy solution: don't block anyone.
I know, I know. Sometimes you really need to.
I don't know how to feel about spirits having cape stars, how come we've never seen them fly? smt doesn't add up here, isn't the gift of light flight unique to skykids? lore chat about to riot /j
Maybe the spirits choose not to fly as a flex? Like "I can let my energy crystal powered boat do all the work while I watch the sky kids flap like moths"
Where little shoulder turtle :(
They’re shy
Sorry for the ping/if someone already told you but it’s currently a bug iirc
Though feel free to correct me if I’m wrong
now season of flight spirits don’t need our help if they have stars?
(ping off)
even in live sanctuary was horrifying according to my vets 
There have never been any invite waves in Live.
I think they meant in general live, not invites
yea lol im referencing the wax and player glitches of sanctuary launch
plants either couldnt be burned or never showed at all, and players were completely locked out of servers; most regions across the globe basically were playing offline when in sanct
Unfortunately I did get into beta during sanctuary but google play was being quirky and wouldn’t let me download the beta version
Fun Times (it was not)
But it sounds like I didn’t miss much lol
in fairness sanct servers were absolutely buffed as a result towards... the end of the season i believe?
just look how they work now; constantly merging and splitting people far from each other; it's very balanced and appropriate for such a massive map and these days you find little issues with player interaction in that map
Ay at least lessons were learned tech wise lol
Hello there beta testers give me your beta skid and I'll draw it as a furry because why notttttt
Good evening from the land of 9 pm
the land of 8pm salutes you
the land of 7pm salutes you both 
a good day to all of you
but i like the candles at abyss cave entrance, they gib nice aesthetic 
there are visually simpler options; make it look something as simple as a darkness orb you pop, or a piece of Light, or just a piece of light from a distance that shows as a candle when you get within like 6 feet of it
10 am is dying
Land of 1 pm has seen better days 
Green cargo, the invisible friend bug, the baby mantas flying in place-

Is this technically an outfit request? Who knows! But I recommend you simply browse the beta screenshots channel
I don't think people would like to get their skid turned into a furry without consent 
I'd rather let people chose that just go at it
Fair enough, just a heads up 
ill dm you mine!
Doot
dooooot
⬆️ 🎺.
updoot? Or foot
Thanks for… the very precisely detailed notes, Sago
all hail the bug fixes 
Owo? It's 2am for me and updoot ping 👀
I live to serve 

very extensive testflight insight
What are the specific bug fixes made in this build
So early today :0
Game bugs 
There'll be a quiz, please review carefully 
hmm i wonder what said bug fixes are
They added real bugs to the game y’all
THANK GOD
... after I finish the nth ultimate hair collage 
Perhaps the metallic bug? 
Did you know? Sago is food....
📝 

orz
L + not real bugs + uninstalled
Doot Doot time 
failed school but wont fail bug report test
What happens if we pass
We get to play
We get hit with more bugs
you get a free bug in live
you're not wiped from beta! /j
The game breaks
You get to test more bug fixes and improvements! 
YAAAAYY
Winners get early access to the elusive music shop 
download faster testflight 
And maybe beans, beancause why not?
Cries in Google play
Surprise it's broken
they say if you pass you get android updates faster than usual
these update notes look very suspicious
With even more exciting bugs to test wowie! What a deal! ✨
you got 24h early access to flight what more could you demand /j
Is it the bug perhaps about the turtle in our shoulder? 
Please I want my son back I miss him
eden crown a day early seems enough
the shoulder turtle is hilarious for the sole reason that we dont even have proper shoulders 💀
I find it interesting it's called a necklace
real talk though I super appreciate all the update collages you make, they're so helpful 
Just want a seperate section for pets entirely
head shoulder knees toes something something
is this our third pet now omg
voi's archive got me like 
I'm glad to do my part
it's so nice to see that they're beneficial, so many ult hair edits etc
Day 597 of waiting for test flight to update 
WHATS THE 4TH
4th. Lpp fox, mochi bun, birb, and now baby tortle
I'll download the update, hopefully it will fix the android 8 issues 
you forgot fortune feesh
Thanks to voi we get to remember cosmetics such as assembly cheese cape 
Bunny bird fish and now turtle
The flight birb is a pet too >.>
Oh yeah the fish! Okay 5 then
I've drawn every single accessory pet so I know all of them 
everyone that isn't in beta but keeps up with updates owes their lives to voi (including me) 
oo I better make a "all pets" edit
i am so sorry fish and fox
fortune orange can't believe yall forgetting the orange
Petition
Seperate cosmetic section for pets
Bsjsjs the orange is a living sentient being
Well if they add another food item then we can say that there could be another type 🔆food toppers🔆
no ult hair changes in this build! whew, a bit of a break 
Has the qualification of the test suit been issued?
Not since November
If they added more fruits and let us stack hair accessories, we could make fruit hats
Ah, yes, the fabled improvements have arrived!
let us stack more than one hair accessory so I can wear antlers and mochi bunnnn 
Mmm yeasss
Now I wanna wear the two Anni hats together 
Updated
But have it to where if we wear a hat we can still place a pet and it be on top of the hat as well
... music shop still MIA 
Did TGC just remove my turtle...
I feel like the music shop would warrant more than, "Bug fixes and improvements!
"
you never know 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Fair enough
Like I bought it when it was a hair accessory, now they change it to necklace and it's gone
it sure would be an improvement tho
it’s a bug 🐢
oo turtle time in a few min! let's check if the shell finally appears
My baby turtle has gone 😢 same as my snow flower head hair clipper
I got the snow flower when Christmas come in now it fly away from my cosmetics collection 💦
How can y'all even entered the game without expressing the bug that crashes at the season animation cutscene💀
cuz most of us dont crash? i never had that problem tho 💀
W…what cutscene bug
Help 💀 💀 💀
ive never had that
still no shell
It doesn't even appear?
I'm on Android 8 as always maybe it's bc of that
i can't enter the game when it gives the normal seasonal cutscene 🐠
Meh i guess I'll wait I've already reported
yeah thats probably why
at this rate android 8 will just lose the hability to even have the game
thats probably why
Have we had any update or discussion on the “Music Shop” that I might have missed?? The prompt came up that it was unlocked after one of the quest, if I remember correctly. But no mention of anything in any the update notes or anything like that since then. Is it a surprise? Or not really part of this season?
Hey guys do ya'll think of the new HAIRBAND I think this new one is PERFECCC NO CHANGE AHH
💖
music shop haven't been added yet
it isn't implemented yet
But we’re pretty sure it’s gonna be part of the season?
iss the beta tester available today or ..
There's no telling when they'll need new testers, but it might not be for a while
last opening was a bit before abyss
i wouldn't expect for at least like 5-6 months
This reminds me of the Flight Ults
Where was this energy during Abyss testing
why did that beta update ping got my heart racing thinking it was the beta invite wave 
A ping for bug update 
A ping from sagomay
me: Ooo new update = more features
Sagomay: bug fix.
But hey w to tgc fixing few bugs quickly
but what was fixed?
no one kno 💀
🤣🤣🤣
bugs 
No.
( in nasty mold video she said she saw the devs in discord talking about making the hairtie much smoother I think like the second version of the ult hair)
I still can't purchase the little turtle ummm-
I’ll get my son back…one day
please change the color in the ultimate cape, silver, gold, light blue, Doesn't matter, but not the current one, I don't like orange/beige, with navy blue

That might be better for #beta-feedback bestie
It's already in it haha, but I was talking about it here to find out if there were opposing opinions haha 💜
@slate shuttle
I’m right here.
And to know if people have a preference between those colors
Gasp I can enter the game now!! after over a month!!! 🎊
I did this Because I always forget to answer directly haha sorry
Hmm
What bug exactly was fixed? 
The bugs that were fixed were
Aw, but when the season intro plays it crashes my game. So close to it 
I actually like the current interior of the ult cape. I mean I did made an simple edit of said color and they actually put it in
guys I love how elaborate the newest post in updates is omg⁉️
I CANT BELIECE THE BUG GOT FIXED

this is one of the updates ever
Why can't I meet a single person in beta?
i also love the interior of the ult cape, reminds me of pleading parent and boatswains capes 
The Bug was in there for so long too about time 🙄
sky beta: we update the bug
us: what bug
Sky beta:
Sky beta: download the game again
thats one cute bug
YOOOOOOOOOOO
It’s him….the bug
monumental sky development achievement
i’m positive 90% of the things i send are just these kind of things tbh 
I jinxed myself unfortunately, beta is still unplayable for me orz
Plot twist:it's not just a bug fix tgc added a new seasonal area and wants us to go find it /j
Oh but I do like the shape of the hair tie
With so little details it looks like a bolt
Who knows what coming 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
What time is the turtle event? Still haven’t been around to test it when it visits yet 
Every 2 hours at the 50 minute mark iirc?
Ah, alright! Thank you
Whut is that?
this was the update already done
wat
Ah yes. The bug was very annoying
In regards to what Vaelyn said in Beta Pics, I'm also a non-beta switch player. Really wish instead of the button mapping pop up being set to ZL it did something similar to Astroneer, where you can hold down a button to use a joystick controlled cursor on the console ports and the button mapping guide be placed in the control settings menu. The memory candles are neat, but boy howdy am I anticipating it being a pain to properly interact with stuff on controller. 
Actually wondering when the next wave of invites is. Based on observations it's been a while. But oh well it comes when it comes
nobody knows except the devs 
oh that's sick actually
the zl button's not really doing anything a menu cant 
The button map in the settings would be much more useful for us, holding ZL and then using one of the joysticks to switch to a different locked on target would be amazing similar to BotW or Kingdom Hearts target switching, the biggest benefit of playing on the switch is being able to play it on a big screen and see all the beautiful scenery, and use a controller, but the way it is configured now it’s basically a single button game for all interactions with another object/player and it would be such a QoL improvement to be able to prioritize what I actually want to interact with 
sorry to interrupt, but has the translate feature stopped working for anyone else?
Doing the same for gamepad (controller) could be beneficial too
this new beta update was the update already done
Basically not saying it was the best or worst update, but in between.
Going a bit farther with this idea, it'd be neat if you could long press on the prop button in the emotes menu to go into a placement mode instead of just popping it down without being able to see where. So you'd be able to place items using the joysticks.
yeah I was joking about how the patch notes aren’t elaborate 😭 not abt how good the update is
What bug is everyone talking about that they fixed?
the bug
I don’t know what that means?
gestures vaguely at everything
But don't forget the other bugs too
Is everyone being sarcastic or am I just not getting it? Lol
It's a joke because they were vague with the bugs.
I’m just making sure I’m not missing something. It was definitely vague!
Omg a bug
🐛
Yes it’s up to us to test every bug and see which ones they fixed 
maybe they fixed the bug where they accidentally gave information on bugs in patch notes
Couldn't translate anything the past two or three builds either Edit: Sorry for pinging
alright, thank you. wanted to make sure it wasn't just a me problem (pings are ok! thank you)
just some jokes since the beta update is so vague
OOPS didnt scroll down and see the rest of the messages sorry LOL
Hello can someone remind me hm the cape of days of bloom was
The 2021 cape was 70 I think, the 2022 was at least 80+ candles, probably 90+
This event is already going in live and has been mentioned in #news
https://bit.ly/SkyPatch0165
Days of Bloom has not started yet in live. And this is beta.
It has already been announced for live with prices detailed alongside it so they don't need to ask in beta channels.
I know I'm a beta tester but I forgot the price
Prices in beta can still change when going to live
The link I put has the patch notes that include the specific prices
Okay I'll search for it thanks for the info
Thank you
I thought this little update fixed the resolution bug, but it seems TGc doesn't care about this bug, disappointing TGC
the most absolute update
have they acknowledged that bug at all btw, i cant remember
All these updates but still the turtle is nowhere to be claimed smh
wdym all the bugs aren't supposed to be magically fixed in a single vague update
Please don't say that, or else their fixing speed will be decreased.
the point is: this bug has been going on for several months now and it's unacceptable they haven't fixed it, and there are bugs for years too that haven't been fixed. this is my indignation
I hope they focus on the android 8 bug 💀 we literally cant play the game properly
I mean it's not necessarily unacceptable. It's bothersome, yes. But there's constantly stuff being changed and I have a feeling that it's hard to make every new thing have the perfect resolution.
TGC staff works pretty hard with all that stuff, I can bet they're doing the best they can between all these different updates. Including more obvious bugs. 
(It may be better resolution in Live, but beta is constantly changing as well. Because it's the beta testing. So a TON more primary bug fixes)
Like the person above said, I feel like the android 8 thing could be a bit of a primary focus right now 
Also, I don't think I've run into that bug unless it's overall! So forgive me of I'm incorrectly assuming.
It could take all the focus tbh, its been 2 weeks, we got little comunication about it too 
necessary bugs they fix, but aesthetic bugs don't, like the resolution bug they haven't fixed so far and a lot of people are reporting this and I think it's absurd that they haven't fixed it, A lot of people said that TGc does care about Android users as it fixed Android 8 crashes, but this was a bug that needed to be fixed, as it was leaving the game Unplayable for some players, the problem is the bugs are the bugs that have been around for years and they don't fix it even though it's been commented and reported, TGc is neither big nor small, your team is considered average in quantity
Burying this kind of attitude destroys the quality of the game, as the game looks like Minecraft in the clouds and that discourages me from playing.
I really admire the work of TGc since I started playing, but it seems that they are focusing on quantity and not on game quality, which Sky had and was well spoken
Tbf though if you just don’t push out much of any new content ppl are still gonna complain about that
And they do need a way to keep money flowing in. The expenses they have to pay for are numerous as I understand it as well
So like I understand wanting to push out new content, and also it IS still a pretty small game compared to something like Minecraft. And keep in mind not all the members of TGCs staff know how to address bugs too
i think its more because a large part of TGC creates content (cosmetics and art), not engineers who work on the code
people being able to even play the game or play any new content should be the first priority though in my opinion
I meant more like “nice to have” fixes
not all bugs are made equally
So my theory that they make more cosmetics than they work in the game is correct.
Remember that there are also new players who will think that the quality of the game is mediocre
in the sense yes? it's not like the 3d artists touching the code is gonna do any better
Yes they only work on cosmetics, the new season area, spirits and event stuff is all an ilusion
Especially when Sky has such an odd dedicated community. A ton of people learn about it from friends, and sometimes it can be hard to keep someone interested when it's standstill w/ nothing new (from experience with many friends) 
And the quality is already pretty good. I agree it could get better especially since that's been a problem for years. But new features can bring in new players + customers and keep them in.
Sky has good quality compared to a lot of mobile games, specifically compared to peaceful open world exploring
what you said above this reply is also pretty accurate too, it’s a double edged sword… a game that runs on mostly events and seasons needs to push out content but there are bugs that go unfixed in favor of that… kind of a mess when you really get into it 
As far as I can tell, there's only a handful of engineers who can work on the coding
cosmetics, areas, spirits fall in the art category
I'm not saying it literally, I'm just saying that the majority of the team only focuses on cosmetics, the minority on bugs and game quality
its a manpower issue
Yes i get your point, wich is why is constantly mentioned here that TGC should take a season break for focus on bugs
video game quality of life isn’t new hairstyles quality of life is being able to even play the game LOL
And that's the complicated question of the game: either it will have quality but a little content, or a lot of content like: events, seasons and etc... But full of problems and bugs
It's not impossible to get in the middle ground, but.... TGC is a company and money screams louder
I've always had this thought that the whole inclusivity that TGC aims for holds the game back, and this is coming from an android player bc we're prolly the ones dealing with the most bugs
Yeah. Chat still covers interaction buttons after 8 months 
I miss when the chat didnt had priority at all, anything would go above it
But this just encourages the repetitiveness of it all
bingo. not even really holding that against them, they’re making money and are a company first and foremost and doing what they need to make money. it would be very nice to not have such long standing bugs still though..
well you do need money to pay workers and seasons acts as "wages" for the company
they’ve changed the color of performance guides hairband so many times where’s the engineer who will be this dedicated to bug fixing LOL /lh
Therefore, they will release the content first (which turns out to be all buggy) and then, at the end, fix the bugs
if they get around to fixing the bugs yup 
(Slaps down paper)
We need better social interaction possibilities if they take a bug fix season break. The social aspect can keep people in a game too, I stay for some friends but paywalls and language barriers suck. Even with the translate feature it doesn't work, I can't translate anything to English.
Basically: Focusing on social stuff and not just releasing a ton of new stuff allows TGC to fix other bugs
i do think one of the main causes is that tgc is still growing and finding people dedicated specifically to bug fixes and stuff like that. without a big team for that kind of stuff i’m sure the list of issues does nothing but grow despite working on it
its hard to find someone interested in doing the boring stuff 😔
Social interactions and gameplay that doesn't feel as forced as assembly or as repetitive as Oh could you help me with this
don’t worry everyone… ill do it… i’ll learn complex coding so fast and fix it all 
so imagine a situation: you are playing a game where 95% of the devs focus on content but 5% on fixing bugs and glitches, and this game keeps crashing, performance and framerate issues, Bugs and imbalance, but it has those handsome 10-20 dollar cosmetics, would you continue to play a game like this?
I just gave an example
We, we all do so 
I mean, we are
i’m addicted at this point yeah.. consciously i am aware of these issues. will i stop playing ? hmmm no probably not
It does get quite repetitive.
the repetition is the big issue, hence why they push out new content to keep a lot of the community satiated
new content regardless, it’s a vicious cycle
The “a season’s worth break to focus on bugs” won’t even make a dent in their bug/glitches backlog, there has to be a balance between both, just saying
Alas, it's a lot more complicated than disgruntled players make it out to be
what makes you think i play for the 10-20 dollar cosmetics, i don't even buy any of the IAPs, im more interested in seeing the game grow
money = game growth
Sky is like Journey: you start from point A to point Z
But you can go to point B, C or D
But over time it will get boring or repetitive, especially when you complete all the constellations in the game, just like Journey you get all the achievements and the white cape
And how does TGc make players continue? Seasons and events, while this is in the game Sky won't die anytime soon (unless tragedy strikes)
But I'm just speculating
the point is people do pay for the IAPs (i do myself if i particularly like them..)
A while ago I remember that someone said that Sky players currently only play sky for cosmetics and TS
I've always thought part of it is how people play it. A lot of passionate players eat through new content in one giant sitting, rather than savoring it in bursts
i don't have money (for most virtual stuff) 
different players different spendings different playstyles
Players come and go. The game is heavily focused on cosmetics and ways of expression you can achieve with it but all of that requires a cycle of grind. It is rather hard to get on the game continuously (at least for me) without an active friend group for example.
basically ? yeah.. especially if you don’t have some friends to goof around with in game it’s basically just for that. and seasons (which are just for cosmetics and emotes anyways). even candle runs and stuff are to collect candles for cosmetics. 
I only buy season pass because Sky stuff is so unnecessary expensive, But the only reason I play is my friends and playing music in the game, and I've been playing since 2019:)
Exactly, as Sky doesn't have a specific story and its lot is all messed up, players play for it, socializing, playing music and buying cosmetics
I say this to the average players who have been playing for a while
well your reason is pretty much the same for me, except i wanna see to the end of it
mhm, i agree. i’m considered a newer player still i’m sure but abyss kind of presented a lot of lore crumbs to think about which was exciting to me, occasionally discussing lore makes it feel like there’s a little bit of stuff in sky that ISNT just cosmetics…. but when i think about how most of the lore is just figured out and expanded by players and not actually in game it’s like… wow.. sky really is 90% cosmetics lol
when i told myself to just hold off buying the days of love boat IAP and getting the spell in game and using it a couple times and realizing i was satisfied with that i was like… wow… so glad i didn’t buy it 
It does leave a lot to the imagination of the player to puzzle things together more or less in terms of the lore that has been presented so far.
Well is there anything else to do honestly?
The exploration issue of the game is very limited compared to Light awaits (old sky version) so I would say that socializing is the only thing you have to do, play music and etc...
so sorry to interrupt this lovely conversation but uh for some reason i cANT UPDATE MY GAME?? and i still have storage soo idk what the problem is
this is true! frustrating thing is though a lot of the lore concepts we have do come from their concept art… it would be super neat to see them actually do something with all these concepts !
ah.. good ole TGC lore.... they never want to give us much...
its just kinda their... thing?
its "lore" not "story"
they leave breadcrumbs and let us make the bread
the same reason why everything is vague, nothing is canon, spirits can be whoever you want to be
maybe they just really like seeing people make some crazy fan art
But they're missing a key component in the social aspect, some people don't like sitting around and just talk. It's more enjoyable doing something together with friends and actually bonding. A lot of the new additions feel like a sit and talk solution to the social aspect
very much this... we need topics to talk about, not more benches to talk on
i cant sit and talk to make friends!! i’m shy! if we become friends in sky it’s cuz we got krilled in eden together
LOL
Yes, a lot from the concepts has been left out or not presented in the game. In the end, as of right now, you have to do the digging yourself since the game doesn’t really present any of that on a more detailed degree. A lot of things get scrapped or not found necessary to be brought out after all, concepts often stay concepts. I think a lot is left to the speculation of the player.
The assembly treehouse had so much potential and now its just something you come across every now and then bc you're taking a shortcut elsewhere. Let's not mention starlight desert too 💀
and the only way to find this content to speculate on it? being in the lore channel pretty much 
people who aren’t on sky social media probably have no idea how much potential it’s lore has
that is why im excited for performance, personally its a step in the right direction
The purpose of putting a candle to chat with someone for a few minutes is quite unfortunate, and you still need to spend candles to extend the conversation (if you don't have a chat chair)
i big agree with this
and technically its part of the same engineering struggle, too afraid or little manpower to add new mechanics, resorting to simple existing mechanics aka the wax chatting spots
Let's see how long that lasts, TGC still needs to rework the sky economy bc prices are getting ridiculous, how to change up the TS system
The whole candle bench thing should've been removed a while ago tbh
TS changes is kinda expected but when is not certain
Not only prices, but there are gonna be way too many spirits to show up in a year.
Gives me a headache just thinking about it, maybe that's why we've been getting 4 season spirits
wwop nvm i can update it now HSJSJ
Honestly the only thing keeping me sane is because I've been playing for a bit I get a break often on TS. I can't imagine how newer players feel because the TS pool is absolutely MASSIVE now.
Like when I started there was only 24... now there is like 58 geez
They fighting for their lives
More bc they might have the I need to get that mentality
aka FOMO
Maybe this is part of why they've dialed back on spirits per season? If we still had six per season we would have a pool of 66
I just realized Quinn already said this

its good for the pool, not for candles
I wish a lot of people would understand that it's not that deep
I can’t speak of every new players but the ones I tend to befriend are fighting for their lives, their 2 weeks worth of farming goes down the drain quick, meanwhile I can comfortably sit back with barely any CR done for months
old players are basically retired people living on their pensions and who lived their full life and have their wants already
“Back in my day 30 candles would last you weeks!”
“Okay grandma let’s get you to bed…”
Now this is true, being able to afford anything candle wise in sky when it comes feels weird tbh. Will they ever up the amount of candles we can get in a day? Can't keep living off minimum wage TGC
I think if they moved the no chevron forge rate back to the 150 pre chevron that might help a bit
That's only a short term fix though.. Eventually we will get way too many with the 4 spirit seasons anyways. I hope they can find a good rework of the system
sky inflation
But starlight desert my beloved

Skyflation
inflytion
when they said sky represents the stages of life they really meant it
It was 15-18 max back in 2019 when you had to farm every pixel of wax ever, though
We need that transport boat from flight to be implemented in Starlight Desert, tho I don't lnow why I'd go there in the first place
That sand looking scrumptious ngl
The dark days 
The great candle depression
Economic crash
Waiting for days of rainbow testing so we can complain about a 200 candle cape
and when you had to inch towards big bunches of wax reaaalllly slowly or else you wouldn't be able to collect them 😩
I don’t really remember this, I was a rabid farming maniac (still am to an extent) 😅
i was just talking about this old bug with my friend the other day hehe
wasn't there also a point in time where collecting too much wax at once (say a candle cake or the wax at valley temple) would crash your game??
Or collecting wax before a transition wouldn’t register properly
yess right
Me in 2020, who only gets 12 after doing full cr: "You guys are getting 15?"
there was also an old bug where dark plants on top of prairie's bell towers would disappear when the tower's candles were lit 👀 it made for some stressful speed farming 😂
"Back in my day, I can only get 12 per day. 13 if i'm lucky"
man i remember when getting 16 candles a day felt like a major achievement 
that feels very stressful especially with the travelling spirit thing happening 
yeaaah though iirc back then the TS weren't as expensive as they are now 😔
16 candles was when there was double candle cakes, right?
I can inform you guys for sure that a full Vault run gets you 1 candle and it was not worth it
Is the turtle friend bugged out? I swear I bought the little bugger but I can’t equip him now that it’s in the prop closet.
i believe its bugged for those that bought it before the update (changing it to the turtle on your shoulder). I bought it after the update and can wear it!
I can see it when I use the free spell for it, just not in my closet. So do that if you want to see what it looks like for yourself 
Do any other Android players not have the bugfix update and thus can't enter sky beta?
hey i am a beta tester can i invite a friend to be a beta tester
Same! I hope we can get him back 😢
information about becoming a beta tester is in #beta-faq
okay thank youu
is anyone able to access beta, i cant bc of the update ;-; can they release a hot fix
What is going wrong
How much ascended candles does the Vault ultimate gift is?
Is it really 99 ascended candles?
The elder hair? It only costs a couple of ac. If you're talking about the invisible cape, it's 999 hearts and is purely a thing for the funsies for beta players
the vault hijab is 5 ascended candles, the invisible cape is 999 hearts and isnt coming to live 
Ohh I thought it's 99 ac
hi all i’m a little late to the news but where does the beeeeg turtle friend spawn in beta
Trench (?) in Sanctuary 
I'm pretty sure you can TP using Nature guide spirit
ok i’ll look! i did try tp but alas no turtle friend to be found
Me nervously eating chips in the corner bc i could update
sweats
It happens 5 min after grandma every 2 h
grandma...? 😅
If it is found that someone maliciously uses a modifier to hold candles, what are the chances of reporting it successfully? Is there any chance of being banned?

it's grandma's feast i think
so the turtle would appear 50 mins after reset and then every 2h period after that
This is my issue with sky tbh. They keep pushing chatting tables, but I really need replay ability in this game and so far, there isn’t any actual games to play with friends...
The thing is... I remember how much of a hype season of prophecy and season of enchantment were. They were the first time in a long while we got seasons with lore - a peek into the past. I’m not sure why, but I’m always expecting something to happen in sky, but that something just isn’t happening :(
I don’t find myself as enthralled when a new season is released with lore anymore. I want to know more about the prince, why the sky kingdom became what it became.. but when a season comes out with lore and we get a beak with 3 seasons being filler - it kind of kills your love for the lore
This! I have been requesting for mini games for sooo long. I thought that season of assembly was going to be that, I thought we would finally be able to make like mini hoop races with friends. Honestly, imagine the events they could do in sky! They have so much land, it just feels like they keep adding more land. But I still don’t have that much to do with friends. They introduced the pillow prop during assembly - I honestly thought we were getting a musical chairs mini game.
If they are caught actually breaking the rules when you report them , its usually an extreme high chance of them being banned
How many seasonal candles we are able to get peer day? I counted and I think is 25
I feel like this is bad in the long run though, because when the story progression doesn’t happen fast enough, you lose older players. If sky has a good influx of new players to combat old players leaving, then that balances out - but otherwise, sky could eventually die out..
ok thank.Is it still reported in the game?
Should be
The traveling spirit system and high price of cosmetics in events does kill a lot of social interaction for me. I’m sure this is the case for most people too. “Why should I spend a candle to chat with a stranger when that candle can get me a cape from a traveling spirit? Or get a new cosmetic from an event spirit?”
It also doesn’t help that new social spaces are meant to give wax but they don’t actually give you enough wax fast enough... I.e if I spend 30 minutes chatting with someone I may get 3 candles,but that same 30 minutes could have gotten me 12 candles
So literally, the only social activity people find worth doing with friends is candle running..
yep 25
yes
hello. Do you think beta's next invitation wave is near? I'm just having trouble with the announcement clock. It could be our country clock in the middle of the night. I hope to be aware soon anyway. I've been waiting a long time.🥺
My friends all like the hair of the second light golden hair band of the final graduation hairstyle, and I also like that version of hair band very much.

And my second question is, is capacity limited this time and it's filling up early? Can I also be able to become a beta member? 🥺
Beta invites do not come at a set time- it's quite "random", as they happen when the developers need more testers at a time they are available to send out invites (it maybe be only one wave, or multiple)
It has a limited capacity but I don't think that number is disclosed. I've seen waves fill up under 5 minutes, and a few take a couple of hours 😄 Depends on your platform, too, as Android and iOS have very different testing programs. Basically, you just have to follow the instructions in #beta-faq to be notified and get lucky 
Looks like you have the Invites ping role, so you should be good 
Skybot autoreply for beta invite questions would be a God send 
I saw people talking about mini games as a bonding experience and I fully agree
I used to play in the beta version but I downloaded the unsalted version and unfortunately all my efforts and when I let it go were destroyed. One of my main problems is that when the wave of beta invitations comes to our country's clock it's midnight or early in the morning and I'm asleep at the time and I can't know. It is not fair to fill beta capacity in the first five minutes. I've been waiting a long time and I'd like to become a member of beta player sky. 🥺
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
It would be so much fun to play a mini game with someone and get candles in return, and maybe you guys work really well enough that you’d like to talk to them again
I just think events need to award something to give incentive to do them. I don’t mean awards in the sense of paying to get cosmetics, that’s not really getting some reward.. if I have enough candles, I don’t even need to do the event to get the cosmetic. But I may still want to do the event, if it adds to my candle pile
Like imagine I get 3 candles for finding the turtle? Or a heart?
As you can tell by the bot message above, false positives are quite common as is
There is a very thin line between "helpful" and "annoying" when it comes to auto-responders, so we err on the side of caution to not overstep it. We'll keep making improvements where we can though until Skybot gets smart enough to discern when someone is just talking about invites and when someone is asking how to get invites 
Actually never mind, I don’t like that…. The good thing about sky is not feeling a requirement to do the events
It's good to keep in mind the Beta server exists to aid TGC in their testing, it's not really something made for the players. It won't ever be fair in that sense, as they'll make decisions on their needs- including wiping currency, progress, tester access of existing and long-standing testers when needed. It's frustrating sure, cause Beta can also be great fun. But that's what we have the global, Live version for
When is the next test?🙏
When more testers are needed!
About when more testers are needed!
Jokes aside, no one knows
Make sure to read all of #beta-faq to get notified when they happen though 
okay, thank you

I know very well that there is a live version. How much respect and how much welcome and appreciation the players and beta enthusiasts! I wish there weren't these big differences between the beta version and the live version. I also play in Genshin, but I never felt the need to play in the beta version, but on Sky game it's the other way around. I think it's a big weakness. Why are special season candles only filled in beta sooner? Why can't we obtain the belongings of the original souls of each season with seasonal candles in the live version?And other whys that have made someone who plays in the live version not take full pleasure. I can't afford to pay for money. I'd like to be in the beta version and enjoy this paradise world you've built. No one can stop me from asking, but you're making it hard for me to join beta, and that's not fair. Most likely, at that hour when the wave of invitations comes, I sleep and the capacity fills up to be aware.🥺😢
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you should know, beta is there to test and not for early access. There are lots of bugs (that you'll have to report) and your progress may be wiped. When testing, you also test new mechanics and not just cosmetics which you have to give feedback on (and these may not even make it to live in a long time)
And also, if I understand you correctly, there is no special way to access old seasonal cosmetics in beta. TS does come, but not always the same one as in Live.
If someone has given you the impression that beta has everything from all past seasons and IAPs, I strongly suspect those are not using legal means to access them.
Beta is beta. It meant to exist to test the game, look for bugs, stress test. You may become a beta tester, play in it for a year, and suddenly all of your progress is wiped. Juat because devs need to tesr something really important. No returns, no compensations. Don't treat beta like a free pass to get something for free, don't get attached, to the staff there. And don't complain if this happens.
Beta is beta.
You didn't quite understand what I meant and you're misjudging. I don't have a word anymore. 🥺
I'm sorry that you're feeling this way about Sky, but please bear in mind that the beta version is not, and will never be a substitute for the live version where everything is free to all players. The duration of the seasons and events are shortened, IAPs/adventure passes are free for testing purposes, and content in beta is subject to change. The beta is a testing environment where testers are offering feedback to content that's in testing, and submit bug reports before they make their way to live. Not to mention how your progress can be wiped overnight. As for joining beta, everybody has to wait for invite waves, so I really don't think it's unfair for anyone. If you find the differences between the two versions (referring to the durations of events and seasons specifically), you should head over to #live-feedback and express your thoughts there. I hope this was a clear explanation for you!
I see your emoji reacts and I understand this is making you sad, but as everyone has already mentioned (including mod Mirian) beta is for testing not a replacement for the Live version of the game. It is definitely fun to be in beta, but it's also repetitive, frustrating, challenging. You always run the risk of losing what you gained.
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
I also want to mention that in live seasons are quite long so people have time to complete, including those who might have joined the game in general late in the season
On top of that, no one is entitled to a beta slot regardless of how long they've played Sky. It's first come first serve
And beta already bears a ton of people who do fill the slots only for free stuff they can get. It's always funny to see how people get mad when something is scrapped or removed (coughcoughkizunaincidentcough) and instead of leaving feedback they just come to chat and scream bloody murder
Theres always these people who really get mad over a game
I like to think of beta as a fun experiment: you get to test out a lot of ideas and new concepts, give feedback and bug report. Sometimes they make it to the Live game, sometimes not. But it's an interesting insight into game programming.
In beta, we don't just take all the free stuff & go. I remember when I first got in, one of the first bugs I encountered was the bright, flashing colors/lights bug on Android back when Abyss started, so I was barely able to play. In between season/event testing it's also very empty. It really isn't a "paradise," that's just what all the content creators like to make you think, with all their fancy vids and infographics
I think it seems so elusive because a lot of ppl think as beta as "early access" when it isn't, we're just testing upcoming stuff that will end up in live anyway (well, most of the time)
Just to pick up on your question "why can't we obtain belongings of the original souls of each season with seasonal candles in the live version"?
Did you mean why are some of the belongings locked behind the adventure pass (paid with real money) and beta we get an adventure pass "free"?
If so, beta is not asked to pay for adventure passes so we can test all the belongings for bugs before they come to live.
For example wearing a certain combination with a bowtie caused catastrophic phone shutdowns in one test build- not fun!
But beta testers and anyone can come to give feedback to ask for a fair share of good things for free to play players in discussion here and in #beta-feedback
I don't think beta is paradise but like.. why make it sound like it's hell. It is like live but with some bonus. Get free access to stuff, get to test new ideas, stuff is free. Overall the game play is the same, friends are same. It is often more empty but I don't consider it as a negative thing. Have been on beta since Season of Dreams and no progress wipe has happened. So that one time yall had progress wipe isn't a very good example to scare ppl off wanting to play beta. Bugs are fun too ngl.. I haven't yet had a bug that would make me wanna quit or make me regret beta.
EDIT: Only downside to beta I can think of is that the amount of hackers (or illegitimate exploit useres) is too damn high
Side topic: how many shared memory candles do you see in realms this build?
I keep finding just 2-3 in the realms proper but 8 at home?
Are the others in the realms really well hidden?
can anyone log on-
I think it's more about the fact that we can't take our beta access or items for granted. Latest example is the Kizuna AI outfit. But other things may be a reshuffle in a seasonal spirit tree, where some players are just not able to get the final items after that. There's no compensation for things like that. We're not here for our enjoyment, but for TGC's benefit. (I think Mirian worded it better.)
it keeps saying error communication??

Is it a bug that sunset in Sanctuary is lasting longer than 10 minutes? 👀
Are there even people expecting to get compensation on beta? I think its pretty clear that aint happening. I do it for my enjoyment, giving feedback is an enjoyment too. I give feedback or bug reports for live too.
Definitely. Unsure if you were here for some of those past ultimate item issues, but people were really angry and called it a scam. Even now for the Kizuna AI debacle there was little understanding for why it was removed.
wait why was the kizuna ai pack removed btw?
Eh.. then it just comes down to one's personality or idk.. being too attached to their skykid. We all sign up for possible losses when join beta.
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I saw 7 players waiting outside the office and i helped them get inside and that's the nicest thing i did in beta
Sorry misread...sunset longer than 10 minutes is different...did it last just carry on after 10 minutes or start earlier than before?
#beta-announcements message
I think this message answers it, or a previous one does.
Yes, I think that really was the gist of it. It's also good to remember it is a tool for TGC to catch bugs early and to get feedback on new features.
It just kept going after :00 lol. I eventually left at :20 and I used the return shrine and sunset was gone but the turtle is still here. It started on time at :50.
probably not allowed for beta testing? idk 
Beta appearance was not part of the collaboration contract just was enabled by mistake because of misunderstanding. Therefore it was removed not to break the contract. (Note: beta is not substitute of live and removals, progress and currency wipes - which already happened - can happen anytime without explanation as this is the nature of beta, see #beta-faq )
ohh i see i see, tyvm !!
Guys, do you think we need too many candles this new season?
Someone has calculated that it takes 388 candles to complete this new season.
Now it's even more expensive than at first by two candles.
If the season is 11weeks, players can have 11x7x6=462 candles. It all depends on season length and double event
I'm not a big fan of the price differences within a spirit tree: from 12 to 36 candles. It's quick-ish to get to that one item you desire further up, but then it takes a whole week just to get that item.
But there are many students in this game, and students may not have time to play games every day.
Agree, blep. I'd better like prices more divided and equal throughout the spirit tree. Nyooming to #beta-feedback 
It would be better if they were cheaper, and I could get penguin hair on the first day for less money.
I have submitted my proposal, just to discuss it.
I don't think TGC is able to take students into account specifically when deciding on prices. It all depends on who are their main customer group, which could be players with a more steady income.
Students also don't notice that albeit server and coding prices multiplied horribly, adventure pass (which allows several days to skip) still costs the same since Sky's beginning.
From what I understand, there is a large number of players who can afford to buy out the whole season on day one. 
But a large part of Chinese server players are students.
Their player base has gone up too so wouldn't that balance out 
That's not really TGC's player base, then.
But I need too many candles to make me feel that I am working for tgc.
I don't understand what you mean.
It's not a good thing to need too many candles, even if it can be achieved.
The Chinese version of Sky isn't run by TGC, but by Netease. So it's neither a beta issue nor really appropriate for this server.
The price of candles is not suitable for this server?
The price of candles on Netease Sky is not a subject we can or should discuss on this server, since this server is for the TGC version of the game. More specifically, beta channels aren't really the place to discuss general prices either.
I don't know if the meaning translated by the translator can make you understand, but I'll try to translate it directly.
The spiritual price of Chinese servers is completely copied from international service, that is to say, what is the final decision of beta, and what is the price required by the spirit of Chinese servers.
There is no beta-like sky game on the server side in China, otherwise we will go there to give advice, and Netease agent will not check the players' suggestions.
From what I understand, pricing and spirit/cosmetic availability is different between the two version, because they are not run by the same companies. There is no place to leave feedback for Netease version on this server.
We can definitely discuss prices for Performance season and the current Nature IAPs being tested in the TGC beta of Sky. But it's not going to lead anywhere if you keep bringing Netease Live version up here.
I would like to ask something,
Is it just me or was prophecy's spirit tree pricing (during season) more painful to do than these more recent seasons ( closest comparison is to performance right now ) ?
Is it because of the way it's spreaded out ? Or was prophecy just generally more expensive ? I don't remember :0
I dont remember a n y t h I n g so maybe
Hello, my friend can't log in when he wants to log in beta.He is an android system. Does anyone have this situation?
Do you mean the game doesnt open, or the game opens but their progress was set back to the beginning?
No.He sent me a screenshot that said,”Thank you for expressing your desire to be a tester for the "[BETA] Sky " app. However, the number of testers accepted by the "[BETA] Sky Light " application testing program is currently full, so Other testers are not currently open to join”
Ok I see, how long has he been a tester for?
Almost a year.
Is deer mask possible in beta?
nope, i warned you but i suppose you didn't see it JDHGXH i reported that player
Ok, well I'm not really sure. All I can say is that due to the nature of beta, theres not much he can do
It may be a new feature that google has a cap, as originally beta testers (through google) couldnt be kicked or removed from beta as theres no way to remove them. So there isnt really much he can do unfortunately 
Curious when will there be a quota of test suits?
No, not to the public, but a select few players do legitimately have the mask as tgc gave it to them for testing purposes. However report every player you see just in case
So only like 5% are legit?
Maybe you met a fox band member 🤣
even less lmao
Probably like 0.001% but yeah
The legitimate deer mask owners are counted on fingers
Okay, I got it. Thank you.
literally
OK
OK
Mods saw nothing 
@pulsar blade sorry for ping I'm stuck in cooldown in screenshots
Theres a bug going around where turtle is missing from peoples inventories, I suggest bug reporting
@stiff tusk thanks. Coz im sure i bought it. So its a bug then. Thanks a lot
I'd like to add it's also been moved to the pendant section of Accessories incase you havent checked there yet either
Checked I mean checked not hacked 
Its not there too
Me too, i guess it gone forever 
there on more invite test😩
they'll send invites when more testers are needed
ok,thanks
I had a nightmare-ish dream today about shared memory candles.
I log into the game, turn to look left and theres a neat "path" of candles from home plate to wardrobe.... And there's like 500 of them and it's such a mess 
I mean, is it a dream if it's real?
great flight signal lights 🕯️
🕯️
meanwhile me i had a wierd dream that i had a iphone and could play sky in high quality and in portrait mode 💀
nothing else in the dream just... iphone
which i wouldnt even own myself
Really? What a coincidence!
I feel like the repetitiveness is always addressed their QnA but they miss the mark completely when it comes to players asking for mini games, not a way of getting wax but just in a different font
@spark lance It's written in #beta-faq . Currently there are no places (except for extremely lucky Android players when someone leaves).
@spark lance the beta invite will be available when TGC decides to make one.
Thank you. I see. One more question. How should I join if there is a quota?@spark lance @drowsy fiber
There's a link in #beta-signup-info once it gets sent. For Android, you can also see that link in the #beta-faq as it's the same that is also needed for leaving the testing. For iOs, you should get TestFlight before the invite is sent. But all this is also in #beta-faq , I'd strongly recommend reading it as it tells you everything you need to know, such as what to realistically expect from beta, how to join etc.
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I see, thank you.
Regarding your dm: If you want to get a notification, #beta-faq explains how (and without a direct notification role you won't have access to the #beta-signup-info channel anyways so you won't be able to see the links)
Okay, thank you.
How long will it take to apply for test qualification? I really want to see it.
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No one knows, invites could be in 10 seconds or 2 months or five days or anything. There is no set schedule, only when the devs need more testers.
I'm suprised to see you after a year haha
Do we know what the next
Season will be?
wot
we don't know exactly when the next season is coming back
if you mean when abyss specifically is returning, seasons are a one-time thing so it won't
NO no, I just used
because it's the current season.
I was just wondering what the next one will be.
feel free to browse through the beta channels lol
there is a countdown timer until the next season once abyss ends though
just wait a week and a half and the game'll tell you itself
Oh lol
I just get really excited and want to prepare for the GRINDING
it doesn't tell what the next season is, it just gives us a countdown 
OH i can't read
i thought they said when
happens 
though tgc might post some teasers earlier, good luck grinding hehe
Where is the turtle 🐢? The neck accessory
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
it disappeared into the void
And devs said something?
It’s in the accessories and currently places on your shoulder, the wip icon in the closet, but it’s not available.
I guess that they deleted the head turtle to create the neck one? And since people already bought the pack, they cant buy it again, i bought it after it becomes a neck turtle and it was working fine
big brain idea, bring back the head turtle as a beta only item. we already have the invisible cape and global china server flower, so why not have the head turtle as a beta only item too?
Oh god I just realized what these memory candles are goin to become
You know how people will place message boats around darkness plants that are in water? Like the one in boneyard? In order to get people to click it to get likes/hearts, but they’re actually just extremely annoying and get in ur way from burning the plant?
Yeah, that’s goin to be the memory candles, except now, they’re everywhere. Around every candle, In every zone of sky.
Which is why, when I see them, I click the big X so that the notes vanish. They annoy me when I'm trying to get seasonals
Kind of sad, meanwhile notes left in unique spots are collecting dust
It sucks because I love the idea of them. But they are just littered everywhere, and causing issues with doing daily tasks instead
you can also place memory candles on granny’s table btw 💀
it’s going to be the candle equivalent of boats in geyser
Do they burn the wax/bread on the table if placed in the right spots?
I think the memory candle can only be placed in the area near the message board.
not sure, I immediately hid the candle I saw there last since I got frustrated. I have plenty of spells since I refuse to place any down atm, will test it at next granny event if I can go
Also ngl I don't like how memory candles out play when you tap on them.
Spam honking hurts my eyes, firework spam does too, I knew to not try my luck when the candles were limited to theater (and thus any outside had a HIGH chance of being hacker.)
I don't want to accidentally tap on one and get my screen bright white cause I only wanted to light some candles
They could cut the light from the honk and fireworks...but the lvl2&4 effects were a cute touch for me
You can get memory candle spells now, they can be placed in most areas
No these memory candles are so annoying. I’m tired of seeing them literally everywhere I go, in every candle spot, every hot spot. They aren’t a cool idea anymore when they’re just an annoyance and in the way. The boats were tolerable because they were limited to water, but these have no limit
i feel like the only way they'd work is if you could only see your friends' candles but even then a lot of people aren't actually friends with the people on their friends list
i think we'd be better off having a way to leave messages directly through the constellation so they don't clutter the world
They need like a designated placement only spot. The memory itself can go outside of it, but the candle placement can only go in there
yeah, perhaps they can use this as a test to see where people would most like to place the candles and then put memory candle shrines near the most popular places?
Kinda like the meditation shrines - I think that would be a good idea
ooh and if it's far away you can honk to find it 
wasn’t it updated so they cant be placed near other candles or shrines, etc ? (still a lot of clutter though..)
i don't think any of the restrictions are working atm
Based on #beta-announcements patch notes the placing restrictions haven't been implemented yet
#beta-announcements message
Guys quick question, what do you guys think about events having event currency? Currently sky has 2 currencies in it- candles and hearts
And Everything in game uses those 2 currencies
Which makes candles an incredibly hard resource to come by - especially when traveling spirits cost a lot of money, making friends is expensive and buying event cosmetics is expensive
For me personally, that makes events sort of pointless and I rarely do them, cause I experience them the first day and after that I don’t really go back to the area
Don’t you guys think that making events longer and therefore off season longer and having events have more gameplay mechanics - one that allows players to collect event tokens which they can then redeem for event cosmetics - would make sky feel more fresher?
And it would also decrease the stress on candles
you already sent this in the other channel..
Well I had to repost it cause someone said it’s not season related
In before someone tells me, it’s not beta related…. Please realize there’s an event going on beta right now for days of nature
These were just the thoughts I had when I was thinking about the event
Most kindly I recommend not to double post, you posted the same in other channel. As it's about events in general, it's not beta 
People still use geyser and grandma alot...if the turtle event gave something similar, people may loop back to do sanctuary on a regular basis?
i might just have too much time but i find it quite easy to save up, i'm currently having trouble on what else to spend on since i basically have everything and a bunch of candles left
I deleted the other one.
idk i don't want sky to turn into a game that has lots of different currencies... it smells gacha-like to me (😬) and having too many currencies can get pretty confusing. like, i already spend so much time explaining regular candles, regular hearts, seasonal candles, and seasonal hearts to friends who are new to sky
i feel like adding a whole new currency would just overcomplicate things
That’s a fair point >< and I didn’t see that before! You’re right ><
i think it'd be much simpler to just.. have things be cheaper in the future
and i think it would add an other dreadfull layer of grinding that we dont rly need in my opinion
i agree that its difficult to balance spending when cosmetics AND friends cost candles, i end up not making a lot of friends because i need to save. ts are becoming more and more expensive too
if we were to ever have a new currency introduced id want it to be some sort of friendship currency tbh. i never make friends or unlock anything with the friends i do have because i need to save candles
update: memory candles won't burn granny's food. you can also only place it on the furthest end of the table from where granny's sitting, but on the table nonetheless
Yea this was my issue :( I can’t help but feel that sky is introducing more and more social items but I’m finding it harder and harder to be social on sky
yeah what TGC needs to do is either increase the daily amount of candles from CR or better yet just lower in-game currency prices. i don't really get why they're worrying so much about a candle economy, especially since it's so lopsided towards the players who have 1k+ candles compared to the new players who have at most 20 at any given time
i started playing last summer on switch release and i play and cr every day, but an expensive ts will still bring me back near 0
i guess it's to maybe encourage buying candle packs with your real life money but even then it's so? weird to me. i don't get why it should matter if players with 1k+ candles/hearts get items fast (if that even is the problem?? i'm really just pulling stuff out of the air there), it makes it unfair to the new players :[
i also started playing at switch release and honestly trying to save for everything was such a dreadful experience
I ended up upgrading the friendship trees for a couple of friends and it hit me how expensive those nodes were to unlock for one friend —- now imagine doing that for everyone!
I honestly don’t think I’ll ever hit the partner dance emote with anyone in live
I can clearly see a logic in TGC 's viewpoint of candle economy. If someone wants all Gucci clothes
, needs to grind (work ) a lot for it or buy candle packs just like irl or just like in real life one has to learn the habit of selective buying.
watching everyone be able to trade hearts and make friends freely in beta was kind of depressing 
But the thing is it puts the social aspect of sky at risk
Especially when sky is touted as a social game
How often does anyone even friend a stranger with a candle anymore? Most people just use QR codes to unlock chat
i feel a little better after flight ended and i got conversion candles but it's still kinda tight when im experiencing yearly events for the first time too, waiting to lose all my candles on the bloom capes when it starts 
It makes you realise how much you hold back in live if you aren't regularly cr-ing
the fact that you can't make friends or use friend emotes if you're poor i think shows that something is very wrong with this system
thankfully these yearly event items come back every year so you can skip out if you want, but i'm not gonna judge you if you wanna try to get them asap
even if you’re regularly cr-ing, when a ts comes or event..? all your candles… down the drain…
Ok so to move it back to beta specially...the number of AC/wc to unlock duet dance is too much?
yeah i really think tgc needs to really think about the candle situation and also take a break from pumping out cosmetics content to focus on this candle issue and other glaring issues the game has PLEASE
if you havent been playing for a long time and are hoarding a ton of currency all you do in sky is grind and collect stuff just to watch it go down the drain. candles, ac, winged light. its fun at first but after a while it gets exhausting
i feel like every channel in this server has this conversation like once a week LOL… sad
shows there's something wrong and in need of change
i dont understand why ts are becoming more and more expensive too, it's only slowing down the progress of the newest players who don't have many items to begin with!
i didn't feel happy with my cosmetics until maybe like, november or december?? and ive been playing since switch release. if someones struggling with candles you can say to just not buy stuff but honestly, it really sucks when you don't like the few cosmetics you have and you just watch everyone around you wearing really cool stuff
it sounds kind of vain but cosmetics are a pretty big part of the game
they are! that's all that's being added to the game! besides the new memory feature which... isn't doing too hot
To keep the discussion beta related, I would love to see (and already left feedback on it) the handshake emote's at least level 1 expression somewhere at the bottom of the friendhsip tree. It's a quite formal greeting tbh
i agree! the handshake belongs at the bottom! many people find handshakes a lot more comfortable than hugs when you've just met someone new
I would imagine something more wholesome at the top of the friendhsip tree, not a handshake no matter how exaggerated it is
have new friendship emotes been moved below past emotes on the tree before?
I don't remember so, but in beta everything is possible 
Only thing I remember is the heart gifting being put higher at one point
i think having bearhug at the top was really cute, it was exciting finally being able to unlock it with someone (the one time ive been able to do that..)
headpat is below piggyback, for instance
The game has way too much to do for the newer players unfortunately. If you stop for even a short time, you'll likely miss something
You can say that again 
They could put handshake to the side after hand hold, rather than shifting the rest of the tree
I don't really think the handshake emote is something I'll use more than once if I ever decide to unlock it
Tbf I don't use many of the other friendship emotes aside from hugs, piggy back, and high five (but this is only for quests)
yeah tbh, i feel like i get more use out of high five than i ever would w handshake. its fun giving a moth a high five after doing something like eden together, i dont think id give them a stern handshake 
thats why i think it would be great at the beginning of the tree, as a greeting of sorts! 
I really wish handshake was another dance instead ngl
Next thing you know we'll have secret handshake sequences
I think the handshake is definitely more of a greeting emote rather than a “yes!!!! you did it!!!!!!!!!” type of one - Which is why it feels a little bit archaic at the top of the tree
It was very comfortable to quickly scroll to the top of friendhsip tree to use bearhug with best friends. These top emotes make these reactions slower and a bit cumbersome.
how much does handshake cost currently?
Not even to mention, handshake wont work on more than 90% of the kids as the hand doesnt connect with any little height difference
Well if you unlock everything in the way....

Yeah it just kinda looks awkward. But a lot of friendship emotes have issues like this. You try to high five a tall friend? You just end up slapping their face instead.
i hope they do something about the height problem, at least in handshake it shouldn't be that difficult of a fix, just make the kids hands attached while the emote is playing 
Oh goodness don’t get me started on hugging 
Yes, in its current state it has very bad price / quality and value ratio
I thought the same , but here is the thing:
The handshake last longer
The others are quick, i honestly dont mind that much
Personally, I don't even see myself unlocking it with anyone. 
In its current state I should say
I will unlock it just for having nothing else on the game to buy ig, i also think it wont be changing much from what it is now
i have only 1 friend who i've unlocked the higher nodes with and that's one of my irl friends
i dont have enough candle money to be unlocking them with strangers 
Considering that no season is perfect, the 2 dances compensates for how much lame the handshake is 
Think of it this way - Why would I want a broken handshake-waving hybrid when I can settle just fine with a high-five, or a hug, etcetera (not in a negative way I just don’t see myself using it because of how displaced the animation can be)
Handshake might be more desirable if level 2 ended up shaking your friend's body entirely....like a game of thumb wars
Which friendship emote is at the top? Is it the dance, or the handshake? I don't have friends to unlock anything with
Oh good. That means I can skip it entirely
Yeah. Like i said, nothing has to be perfect, this will definitely be useful for some people in the world, maybe content creators
i personally think the handshake is v cute but yeah it being at the very top is so silly to me
For a season having 3 out of 4 expressions that i consider using constantly, that is great 
there are probably two friends out there who are the exact same height that are very excited about handshake
Aha
lolll true
First thing im doing when the update is live is drinking two huge spells with my bud and we dance
Well I'm definitely excited about the friendship dance emote. How do you all feel about that one's placement? Personally I think it should be a bit lower. I just feel like Bear hug is a good end goal for a friend tree.
I wouldnt be surprised if we manage to unlock the dance without the season going live, like it was with the bear hug
My friend and are are both max height yet neither of us are that thrilled for it 😭
The emote just looks too formal. The duet dance emote is cute though 
The friendship tree feels like a grocery list rn, save it…
I agree. Bearhug just seems like a perfect way to end the friendship tree
It indeed should be lower, at least on the prices 💀
guys do you know when the season will start?
0 to 3 weeks after the Blooms event ends, there is no date yet
Us beta testers know as much as anyone else in terms of when events start
Not 100% sure, but I think they usually start about 2ish weeks after the current season has ended (in this case, Abyss).
(Want to clarify that this info is not confirmed, just a guess)
Beta never gives us concrete dates as far as I know, the next season will be coming up after Abyss finishes but there’s no solid date to mark on your calendar just yet
ok thanks guys
🙂
Is there a name for next season's graduate hair? I heard from my friend is called puffin or something
there's no official name, but most people call it penguin hair! puffin hair is also a cute name though
Penguin / noot noot 
thanks!!
Hello Guys it is only me or everybody who noticed that The Nintendo hair has dirty white color? Like not a pure white
@jagged marsh ummm. You mean me active in the chat or active in beta or active in live or active in game?
Anyone else notice the missing wing in the last part of the valley races? Just went to Eden and it's not there
Lmao it doesn't look like any penguin hair I've ever seen only the masks do I think that's people just mad about owl hair 2.0 imo
we call it penguin hair because the rest of the season is penguin-themed
like you know how many items people've called owl hair 2.0? if you just say that nobody's gonna know what you're talking about 
@mental crystal Beta jail for you 
how doo i try betaa sky
You can get owl hair
In my dreams
No you can actually get it 
I await the next season
Me too 
im on ios howwww
How whay
install beta version on ios
There needs to be beta invites which are sometimes released I think but it’s not available right now?
oh lol nvm its full

you’ll be able to get it next season (as long as it doesn’t change)
Mods? WHERE?! 
Asleep
I beg to differ, the rest of the season is not penguin themed only the masks. The cat hood? The jester outfit, the rockstar hair etc none of these items have anything to do with penguins only the masks but to each their own 🤷🏻♀️
by that logic we shouldnt call the owl hair owl hair because only the thoughtful director's mask is an owl 
There's a penguin suit in map
Season Guide is also in the map
Penguin hair 
also i think the antennae kinda look like penguin eyebrows in the same way the owl hair's antennae look like the feathers of a horned owl 
Why am I not qualified?
Because qualification is closed
Lmao as I said to each their own. To me the hair has nothing to do with a penguin because I've never seen a penguin with any hair like that.
They all kind of built like penguins playing dress up 
The hair itself doesn't look like a penguin, but the QG's whole outfits resembles as a penguin in a suit :3
why
Because the developers don't need more
and the new area is in valley which is a cold place for penguins to live in right?
Exactly
your qualification got expired cause you've probably been inactive in beta 
When did you join beta?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
So do snowy owls
去年
I’ve never seen a horned snowy owl, I don’t think the inspiration has to be literal
Did you get it from here or somewhere else?
Google play
Oh, from Google play? That means you could have entered because someone else left
What's the meaning
I think we are each free to interpret the game how we wish that's the beauty of it.
I'm not sure, but the only way to be in beta legitimatly is here when the qualifications are open.
I'm not sure how joining via Google pay works but heard that some got kicked out
But I can't log in to the game.
Off topic but your pfp confused me a ton
My friend has a pretty similar one and I was like "they never said they played sky?
" 

Sounds like a bug
Yes, looks pretty cool though
do you guys like this season chicken masks?
What time can I join this year?
Beta invites get released every now and then, they don’t have a schedule for ‘em

Chicken?
they look odd compared to other flat masks available but it's a great addition to the masks collection. I may never wear them a lot or at all tho
Also, I personally think they're the only masks that somehow "show" your skykid's emotion/expression and that's what makes them stand out, I guess.
anyone else turtle head item disapear
Thank you
It's been made into a neck accessory, though it's currently buggy

i remember getting it before it left so its quite strange
Does anyone play national service together?
whats that
Sky
not sure what national service is but ok
netease ver
ohh
国服 = national service
国 = nation/country
服 = service
basically the sky that is limited to china, which means no other players from other countries
the TGC operated sky is 国际服
国际 = global/international
We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @timid bough. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.
i agree skybot just explaining why translations are that way