#beta-discussion
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when did #beta-feedback change anything recently, remember the pandemonium with the ts changes?
I just learned illustration so maybe I can send a separate feedback with some sketched on how to improve these capes. Anyone wanna join in?

everyone's opinion is valid. if you want the devs to see what you think, leave something in #beta-feedback , but try to be kind about it, someone has to go in and read all of it 
am i the only one that has real not good thoughts about the new capes 
#beta-screenshots-videos message is this the higher level cape that costs double or 11th star makes the cape look like this?
you can find pics of the 11h wing design in #beta-screenshots-videos
do we know what is required to upgrade them?
How I wish they will still listen, but they said they are close to being finalized. So...
TS change starts next TS acorn
Sometimes it can take too long to change something. Things like lanterns in ark cave and fire by the prophesy entrance cilff are added as the result of feedback. Designs might change too. But afterall beta feedback its a very luxurious features for regular gamers. I am grateful for this feature. And try to play with what I can get. Again you can try to thing of capes like that
The new capes are inspired by the pre-global launch capes, but are intentionally simplified for performance reasons. The team doesn't want them to be fanciful. They are a symbol of being kind to others and building long term friendships.
capes have been redesigned before. one example is butterfly cape, and that was changed pretty close to live release too
I got to say the capes look amazing ... they really do ....ain’t not spoiling no flowy feel in my opinion and is a beautiful design ... well done tgc... you got it spot on
Why I can't update beta? I don't see a new update 
I feel like they don't even need fancy patterns. I think a cape shaped more like bird wings with the feather trim and basic color is enough to show seniority
You guys sounds more like whining than giving constructive feedbacks
@rugged pivot omg that is amazing
try restart your phone👁
white cape with the deep blue lining looks like a carton cutout
androids take longer for the update to show
Feedback is definitely checked and listened to. Sometimes things take a long time in coming (it can be surprising how something that may sound simple is actually pretty intensive to implement or make). But feedback is always appreciated, as long as people are polite and constructive 
They are beautiful...a lot of hard work went into the design .. imagine having to animate and make 3D ... well done tgc perfect
maybe once they write in #beta-feedback it will be constructive. here in general beta chat we just tend to give opinions based on our first impressions so yeah
How did butterfly cape look in beta
@left dragon where is the separating line between simplification and mediocrity? the majority of the community is frustrated with the new designs and we're informed that the designs are almost final. I am willing to provide feedback unless it is not taken into consideration.
can someone show what the menu for the new capes looks like in beta?
Like a soggy pancake if memory serves
can someone post a vid of you running and flying in the new cape please? i’d like to see how it flows
When there are 11 wings, does the cape pattern change? Really?
yes, our iconic pancake cape 
carrotcake
soggy pancake?!
Go to beta screen shots if you wanna see pics
New item, separate from the stars 
What did the beta capes look like?
new item? is there another events in beta?
carrot effortlessly ko’d me in one hit 
Separating line is that: simplification is original intent, mediocrity is an opinion regarding the outcome of this intent. And I just wanted to help you feel better
Not an event, an addition to basegame!
Where did TGC say the design was almost final tho? Try to have faith in them, remember how they struggled 9 months for us to be able to relive spirit without kidnapping moths. They are trying I’m sure 
does anyone know when the new capes will reach live?
Lol
ok thanks HAHA
Maybe we are frustrated because we're not used to it actually
the only people who know when these items will be released are the devs. maybe they'll be released in a few weeks, or 5 months, or in a year. we don't know
Sorry, but I really don't like the "If you don't like, don't unlock it" kind of reasoning. The fact that you put something in the game make us obligated to unlock it whether we like it or not.
So...issit? If not, what does the higher level cape that costs twice look like? Has someone bought it yet?
Imagine how different those who have 150 will look .. I think they have hit the nail on the head ... hard work and dedication goes into getting 150 and it is deserving too ...very happy
The new capes will prob hit live ... and I hope too
Just wanted to say, Ktjn said this earlier! 
"they are likely close to being finalized, but everything is subject to change until it goes to Live."
Can we see friends names after the latest update?
android updoot!!!!
is android update late again?
Yeah I saw that vallahai, but “likely close to being finalized” not “close to being finalized”, meaning they are still open to rework?

A video is needed to see how it looks during movement
finally, time for me to get some new capes 
I mean.. i think they are always open to feedback so yes?
as long as it is in beta, anything can change
yeah hehe 
does anyone have any screenshots of what the pre launch capes look like? i wasnt around for that and i cant find it anywhere ;-;
while tgc is finalizing the designs im just gonna enjoy my last couple of moments with my 100% completed constellations before they add the new capes in 
They are open to feedbacks, the question is, if something is close to being finalized, will they still listen?
@left dragon I'm sorry if I seemed too harsh, this is meant to be feedback and not something about your opinion. And when simplification meets mediocrity it is us who are supposed to assess the item... the fact that simplification is an intent doesn't mean it can't spark dispute and not be of a high quality.
New cape doesnt count into constellation completion (sorry for the ping)
yes mickey, they can still change things even if it is close to being done. they've done it before during sanctuary
@restive sigil there is a Youtuber called Tara's Sky Journey, she has early beta videos
Well done those who have 150 in beta ... Thankyou for the hard work and time making sky better for everyone ...
@ Mickey- Sometimes it can really depend on how intensive the changes would be! And also how much of a workload the team has at the time. Butterfly cape, manta jumpsuit, and shell cape got changed in sanctuary because they both happened to hit that sweet spot of not work-intensive changes and having the time available to work on them
that kinda makes sense haha esp having acquired the elder hairs
Shell cape got changed?
i remember seeing the change to shell cape and I was so excited 
it got a silver gradient, it used to be solid pink
Well if they count I’m never stealing wasteland boi’s hair so ....

I wish these capes had a glowy border of the base shade of the cape but a lil darker and had a gradient




AHHHH
whoops pines you got caught 
Anyone knows if the spirits memories don’t give candles anymore with this update??
Let's just hope they actually listen to our feedback, and the finalized aspect of the capes gets a little delayed
I think a lot of it for me (and maybe others, I can't say) is that we have really beautiful and uniquely shaped/designed capes like manta, butterfly, the enchantment layered capes, bat, fluffy gratitude, and spider from IAP and seasons, and when it comes to basegame, a cape that would require so much hard work and dedication to friendship is so simple 
I ofc understand the intent is to be a celebration of friendship, but I can see why there'd be some disappointment when we have other beautiful capes like the aforementioned
wHAT DOES THE 11TH STAR LOOK LIKE-

go to #beta-screenshots-videos to see
Wait why is there only 2 krills. I thought Ktjn is 3 krills? One is a sneeping clone? 
Can you show a screenshot of it please? :0
Honestly it's perfectly OK to not like the new capes.If most of the players don't like it and doesn't say anything, it's likely that we are just gonna be stuck with capes that we don't really like. It's completely valid. Just make sure you are polite about it in feed back, because no one wants to read rude crits, and being nice always gets you a better chance of being heard. Also let's not speculate about development process or the devs themselves and focus on the content.
For a sec i thought ktjn was pinning her krilling me
yeah, give me a sec. gotta dig out my old photos
Remember to keep the feedback constructive and be kind to one another when your opinions differ.
oh my god, ive been under the rock for a month, the new designs for the capes are bEAUTIFUL-
I just got up. Hello, morning coffee and update to beta! Now I really feel motivated to get all those wl back. 😄
A question: is the invisible cape still being planned to go to live some day? And when it does, will it costs hearts?
Since the new capes are pretty expensive, it would be nice if I can plan on which items to buy (first) and whether or not I should spend all my hearts on the new capes
People are making up their minds without even seeing it for themself in game ....I’m stepping back and waiting to see for real before I put any feedback
Hmm, maybe the cape edges should be glowy instead like the butterfly cape..? Might leave this in feedback, but I'm worndering about other ppl's opinion on this first
There’s a beta photo of Sky that’s still in the App Store page for the game. The cape in that photo has some lining that I think works better, as it keeps the flowy feel to the cape and add a bit of antiquity and mystic to it
rip can't find an old pic of shell cape before redesign, but here is my old pic of butterfly cape! very pancake like
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Morning blep 🤍 have a awesome day
Please put more details on the new capes 🥺🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Morning and cheers to you cause i think the shiny bois have enough of my laziness

Maybe I'm weird but I actually love the first design
thanks for the photo!
new white&black cape good.I like it👍
Yes the white and black are the best
Lore: these Ascended Capes were painted by the owner Spirits in hope of modifying them for halloween, but they only has grey paint left
i think it look harsh on white cape, it makes it look like a cutout
man people do have enough hearts to already get the new capes meanwhile i only have 3
HAHAHAHA
What's the total cost of all capes?
150 hearts, for real?
700+
Funny lore: ascended capes are made when the spirits are hungry for candles and find an unused can of grey paint from the prophets’ mask making

on the lighter colored capes it looks pretty harsh but for the darker capes its not as bad i think
may be 729
729
Rip
And the designs are... 👀
I wonder if maybe making the trim color match the inside color of the capes would help reduce the clashing of the silver? Like the magenta cape would get a teal trim, the red cape would get a white trim, etc
Can someone please explain the new lvl2 cape thingy for me?
I do want to kindly ask, if you're going to quote me, please quote the ENTIRE thing.
they are likely close to being finalized, but everything is subject to change until it goes to Live.
Selectively quoting part of a statement to fit your narrative is disingenuous to the people you're trying to prove your point to.
729 hearts = 2,187 candles

They look pretty cool tho. Especially the black and white one
Oh no no no
How do we get them?
Same qtn, please send screenshots also 
is it just me or it is normal to not be able to preview black/white ascended cape in closet?
@stark cloud double heart event 😌
long-term goal
Ah nooo I can't farm anymore it's boring so much 😭
Oh yeah... But can still finalize and improve in Live.
If one’s with an outline aint level 2 then what is..
I think the design should be modified. It just looks like adding black edge. It doesn't look as good as the original!
What about the invisible cape? When it will come to the live ?
At beta yes the items available..at live not yet..GG to collect all 2k candles 
Well I’m just gonna get them nice and slow just like getting 6 elder hairs 😂
We’re those blue birds I saw on the title screen?
Ohh the wing changes are the new capes .. I thought that pattern changed when got 150 wings ...only the wedge for 150
l would also like to ask about
🇼 hite Cape (Lv.2) 🆚 🇧lack Cape (Lv.2), which one to buy first?
But..thanks tgc for that new items..

When we design things and add features and content, it is with the intent that some people will like it, and some people will hate it. There are over 50 million Sky players, we will never be able to please every single one of them. We only hope that the majority of people like the things we create.
Just like anything you may spend your time or money on, if you do not find value in what you're doing...don't do it. Respect that your time has value. This applies to any aspect of life, not just Sky.
When will the invitation be reissued? Will it be in December? Krilltjn
I haven't even thought about the new capes. Ooops! I should have a look.
Does anyone know the price of the new cape?
@frosty oak price of original cape *3
No worries ktjn..me like that new update

when we are ready to do so. we don't give advance notice due to the amount of chaos it causes.
No one know for sure, TGC haven’t decided yet
If I pay the same price again, I'll get both, right?
Hmm, wonder why the new capes look like that 
New stuff for lore theorizations ? 
Ok, thanks for answering!
No mew, they are completely different items with different prices
Yay new Android update
I really like the new capes .. I think the grey needs to be a little thinner and it will look even better ...maybe a grey line then a gap and another grey line ...I think a little tweaking won’t hurt
Hello Kriltjin! Remember the bug that change mask color base on cape color? I wonder If there are any new item developing base on this idea ?
When it's ready, there's no information at this time. It's been in development for over 10 months at this point. It could also be scrapped and never come to Live.
hmm for example. White cape is 50 hearts, this new white cape is 150 hearts. And this cape is even above the white cape so you will need to unlock previous nodes first. So it will cost 200 hearts in total
Aaaaaa
new cape=originalx3
Is it all at this price?
Yep. So they cost 729 in total
10 months with the invisible cape, and then there's the shepherd system, which is now over a year old in beta 
Aren't there quite a few photos in #beta-screenshots-videos you can have a look at, MEW?
I just realised the new (red) cape design colour matched the one I keep drawing with my Krill OC, I dreamt of this moment for while 
Imma report some bugs once update rolls out 
To bad we can’t have an updated version of my dusty moth cape ☹️
i hope the lining is neutral colors like broken white or cream.. that much make sense and beautiful than all blue 
So even if i have everything on the constellations, i have to buy the capes again?
Morning
impatiently waiting until the update is downloading
this cape also need some upgrade
We will also get a wing buff when we unlock the node to the new cape right? Well it should but just asking 😂
Its almost midnight for me, so I should probably go sleep. Have fun testing everyone! 
Btw the spirits who needed ascend more than once, will they give us more than one star or only one ?
They give wing buffs. I should add, some of them cost 12 ac.
I feel that the night environment is black edge, day is white edge, when not black and not white like the color of mud.
1 lock = 1 wingbuff
i mean yea both wave and cry give you two wing buffs thus it seems that these will follow the same pattern
Wait do we have images for white black and pink soggy pancakes?
Wondering should these come to live if I should spend my hearts or wait for other slick things in the future 
I think If they put white edge on all the colored cape that will be better
It looks different between daytime and nighttime
I think it's good the new capes only have subtle differences from the original ones, so they don't become this huge flex thing for some people.
I just crashed my friends with the bew cape in GW who hasn't updated yet
These new capes and wedges feel surreal ...am I really awake or am I dreaming ...., sky is so magical ... what a amazing thing to wake up too..,,we are so blessed to test these new features and so blessed that tgc put so much work into every aspect of the game including the community..,new capes are awesome and the new wedge too ... it will be perfect by the time it comes to live no doubt....been given more to unlock in the game is awesome too for many reasons 🤍
Anyway guys. Pls remember that ts is coming next week and don't spend all candles trading heart in the double heart event 😂
You know what I have always dreamt of in terms of capes: a transparent one, like the petals of a skeleton flower.
The upgraded Capes looks Like Banana Leaves Hahahaha xD in different colors! Haha xD
banana leaves 😭
So we will have the old and new capes?
Banana leaves indeed and not the good one. LOL
Ooh new capes look cool and so do new star pattern!!
The new cloak looks unfinished, I don’t know if it will be optimized
well the design of the capes 2.0 is still in beta, TGC can still polish it
Expect this
someone said new cape = price of the basic x 3 is that right lmao ?
like the enhanced black or white cape would both cost 150 hearts ?
300 to get both omg,
plus thrice the price for everything else,
plus need to maintain at least 15 hearts every other Thursday for TS...... 
All new capes looks like a “fading color” version of the classics ones due to prolonged use (which why might be 3x expensive), looks veteran stuff 
you meant 12 hearts every thursday right hahaha
edit : the new cape look is actually pre-beta inspired
You really don't have to get everything. 
but-
Veterans got nothing else to do 
i need to
I am a veteran. I am planning to get probably only one, maybe two, depending on their finalised look.
i. will. get. everything.
I'm just gonna go for black --> green --> red --> white. In order
I should have enough to get black by the time it comes to live
How is white cape level 2, i don't see it 😭
yes pls, show us white...
my app is taking forever to dload da update
Plus lined with hard edges, so they are more durable
I can see where TS was going with it, but I'm hoping for future updates 
i can show y'all new whit cape if you want
yes please
What the price of the white cape level 2 ?
150 hearts
What is the invite number for the testflight
So u need to upgrade it in order to get the lvl 2?
wait, there's only yellow, green, red, cyan, blue and purple cape V2 for now...
there isn't one
why
I have to keep sending a heart to a lot of friends from today.
because beta is full
This is so pure, almost cute...sorry
Is pink, white and black cape not showing in the closet intentional or bug?
Me, a galaxy brained theorist seeing that the 11th wedge design looks like the King's symbol, as well as the prophecy symbol, like:
The lore d eepens
When can I go in 
You need to read the FAQ...
stick around and re-read the #beta-faq eventually the time will come. we do not give advance notice.
is it need to wait 
Begging won't make invites come any faster.
@vapid briar Can you add me Friends
Just read the FAQ . Get the ping role. Be patient like the rest of us.... ^^"
anyone have a pic for 11 widge?
The season still has like 20+ days left right? Invites are (probably) still a while off based on the past.
You won't get any new or special information in the discussion channel. Please re-read #beta-faq and wait for the notifications.
Don't worry. There are multiple pings for most of time zones. You will get notified. Just choose the role in #beta-faq
We just need to be patient for the next invites, yes.
ok the V2 cape looks better than i thought in the game, nice
is it need to wait 
@tropic willow just wait…it will come soon™!!
We get about half a candle every time we relive a spirit in beta. Is this a bug or intentional?

the role to get ping is in #beta-faq first message
IOS users need to be hyper vigilant in particular. The last invite waves saw... the ios invites go suspiciously fast. Did you guys ever find out why that was?
My bad
anyone show me the 11 widges logo?
...and obviously don't sacrifice your health for beta invites dear god.
does unlocking the next node using ascended candles to get to the level 2 capes give a permanent wing buff?
nope. edit : wait really ???
Yes
people take the invite links and share them to external places, meaning people who are interested in early access to new content and not testing or giving feedback.
Right.
Ah thanks. I somehow missed it the first time I read it 😂
wait wut, is it a yes, there will be new wing buff/ permastar?
or no new wing buff/ permastar?
didn't like the new capes
the new tiers give new wing buffs, yes
and that's a great news, sorry for the confusion everyone
Ah shoot! When this hits live I might be able to get 11 wedges. Nice.
how much are the new capes?
we will all get 11 wedges in live... just only time.... 
I just wish for a new flight power pattern on the back, they are not that bad, plus it's only in beta, it can be modified before getting to live
@honest folio price of new cape = price of old cape x3
For each colour
so do the new level 2 cape designs... TGC can still polish them before rolling to live...
😫
Different capes would definitely be benefited by unique lining colours.
Loving the 11th star 🌟 design looks nice but noticed the white and black cape are missing upgrades was this intentional maybe still working on the new designs
Because as dark said earlier. The new yellow cape does make me feel like I'm wearing a high-vis jacket dhshsh
I want to ask is it need to wait for few months of the  testing
Stop asking and read the FAQ. ^^"/

ay update is out for Android
I'm still waiting for that lv2 white/black cape tho
I’m sure those 2 cape will look amazing 🤩
By the bold assumption the invites won't appear until.the end of December. Don't trust me tho
If you read the #beta-faq you'll find a reaction that can give you the beta invites ping role. From there it's just a matter of waiting.. and being patient.
Someone had sent a screenshot of the black and white ascended versions in screen shots and I got excited cause the icons were different but now I realize it might have been fake 
Thx
dumb myself who thought he would finish the game by collecting all cosmetics in a 1 month or so
V2 cape :
The beta invites are done manually. So times may fluctuate due to multiple factors.
Yes, but at least that person is a lil relaxed now
Imagine if we get some kind of new capes just like the edit on #beta-screenshots-videos
I know righttt
I think the cape still need some more details
it look a bit old for me 
The sanctuary test cycle invites came sooner than the prophecy ones did. In terms of.. in relation to how close the season at the time was to ending in live.
100% would buy that wing cape if it happened to be implemented
hi does anyone know where the new white an d black items are now pls?
Maybe they have some other things they need to test before they redo the invites for a new wave?
Spirits are not giving wax anymore.
And the yellow shiny deluxe cape looks good in vault in my opinion. The edges has a brown reflection instead of the silver there.
@strong canopy pink, black and white ascended capes are not yet available
there isn't an access wipe every new invite wave right ?
edit : what do you mean by "yes" haha
thanks!
Are they officially called ascended capes?
How are people getting screenshots of the black/white capes?
They called it ascended cape but ktjn said it still doesnt have any official name
There is not an access wipe for each invite wave, only one access wipe past the end of each season before the new one starts.
also for the 11-15 design
all I can think of is -> 
damn. this looks like my long term goal.
could've bought those capes before they were implemented?
my yellow cape showed up in the closet, and i didn't lose any hearts
thus one access wipe every season
i haven't bought anything. cries in my 10 hearts
Where did headpat go from the friendship tree?
It headpated out
Yup, once a season is the current set up.
when will they release an updated version of the office cape for $90 😂
or the orange cape for 15$ 
Imagine if they update the beta cape as ascended tgc cape
Would make a lot of sense to remove confusion on both capes and to pay tribute to beta sky
How much for the new capes??
Also I like the ascended name for it, kinda like how ascended candles are “rarer” versions of the normal candles or soemthing. New and improved version lol
Trice the price of not ascended of the corresponding color
price of the basic one X3
x 3
everything is ascending. my brain can't keep up. I'm so excited
new nodes recap:
- the original capes prices are 3+20+30+10+40+15+50+25+50 = 243 (hearts)
with respective AC prices of 1+2+3+3+3+2+4+3+4 = 25 (AC) - the new capes then cost 9+60+90+30+120+45+150+75+150 = 729 (hearts)
with respective AC prices of 3+6+9+9+9+6+12+9+12 = 75 (AC)
Ascended sky kid when
Ok so they rearranged the friendship tree
- Headpat is after double high5
- You can acces warp from headpat
- Then comes AC lock, and piggy
- Playfight is after piggy.
Sending screenshot in a sec.
will we get ascended tgc beta cape 
ascended beginners cape uwu
🔹 Ultimate item constellation should no longer display the wrong icon
whats this pls
🚫 maybe
Or the base cape
hmm okioki
waiting hehehehe
so many headpats from now on

Friendship tree pic sent.
Good Friends are expensive
it looks weird. i mean the lowered the warp and the put back even further than before now lol
🔹 Improved stability of new social features—Serendipity and Friend Finder
whats that? 😣
did they add contrast to the design of level5+ capes when you lose light? like around the diamond shape its darker than before?
guys what's the price of the ascended capes again? 150hearts?
3x the price of the original afaik
ohhh not that expensive (cries in black cape)
just my theory but if those new items are required for new non-seasonal ultimate gifts later-
well, i saw somewhere that for those who already unlocked full constellation and ultimate gift, it'll not change anything for them, but for those who haven't, i dunno
we can't say that for sure yet
this sounds like a long long long journey for me
For people who have unlocked full constellation they have the new capes too ,, if that’s what you mean .. everyone has the same ... remember we are all equal in sky regarding what’s in the Initial game
i didnt have the constellations complete and i just completed them. nothing is weird. i didnt purchase the new capes and i have 100% anyway
The new capes have nothing to do with getting elder gifts .. all that remains the same ... they are just a add on after the fact
oh....
@royal elm So new capes are 3x the price of the regular ones.
50 hearts capes become 150? 
ive finished every constellation except vault, so after vault I guess I'll have something to spend hearts on 
same
im pretty clueless since i havent been following but im eager to know, are those new linings on capes the new capes? or are they the new designs when u reached 150 stars? 👁👁
finally something to spend hearts on for almost 2 months...
new capes
i haven't finish any constellation. *cries in the corner
the design for 150 is already revealed too
oh, also, after you buy the regular cape is there another AC lock to access the new cape?
yes, that makes it 9 new wingbuffs
woaaah so many new changes, hype hypee
i haven't updated yet so I can't check the price
it's also x3 of the original price
how much ac is it? 2?
i think so
edit it's 3 i think
i just answered, x3 of the original AC price
wait, this means I'll be able to get 11 wedges in live after this update 
so purple cape would need 6 ac? jeez
laughing in 157 AC
or wait, no I'm dumb, 9 ac
black cape would need 12 ac??????

black and white cape would need 24 ac and 300 hearts combined, jeez
yup
that's a lot of hearts 
that's.... a bit past my budget I'm afraid
it's all 729 hearts, 75 AC
I gave up from the start
that's.....wow, does tgc think I'm made of hearts or something????

it's irrationally overpriced, sky shouldn't be a game of currency
i would be in heart debt 
not so much acs but definitely heart debt
im sorry but these prices are very high to me and getting them wont be an objective to me
these capes dont look super special to me sadly
i definitely agree with acorn, the capes are way too expensive for just being the standard cape designs with a bit extra flair
i'll be waiting on more polish before deciding wether i want to buy them all or not. as of now i'm only going to buy purple, green and dark blue
it would be unique items, why not... but there are some of those capes that are more ugly than the og ones. i hope its not finished and they'll take a lot of time before adding it to the Live game
green looks a bit more like the earth cape which is nice, the standard green one looks like it's puke colored in some lighting
Sorry but what are these new capes that im seeing?
new capes 😆
they cost a lot of hearts but they dont count in the completion of constellations
they kinda look like really worn out capes, the colors are fading at the edges... that's probably not a good thing
I agree ☝️ was glad for something to work towards but the pricing seems waaaay OTT. Not a fan of the designs personally either 😐
if the only change is darker colors and a silver trim I honestly might not buy them
they definitely made the decharged icons darker
yeah, the capes are definitely pricey for just a vanilla cape but darker colour and a trim
unless you have to complete the constellation to access them first, that'd work better than needing ac to unlock imo
or since you've already BOUGHT the regular cape, it should only cost ac
#beta-feedback maybe ?
I added a picture from concept art that i wish they’d try to emulate in the new capes. I hope they try to make it look more like an actual wing than what it is now
How much is the yellow cape, upgraded one?
probably 15 hearts
9
are the new capea the actual design?
is yellow 3 hearts? i thought it was 5
it's 3
i love some of them though! 
i thought yellow was 5 too, guess I just bought it way too long ago to remember the price 
Purple looks 
but spending hearts on these would mean im far away from getting capeless cape again 
same haha after finishing live version , i wanted to concentrate on the no-cape item...
purple looks the best
i wish they all hv little accents of different animals (like bird, leopard, zebra, bees etc) instead of just changing different color contrasts and icon designs
ngl i really like the green cape, i wish there were more green capes in sky 
eeeh, that's a bit much
but the black n white capes look pretty good!
Ktjn posted about why they are so simple
that message was pinned
Green = banana leaves, i love it too!
For 150 hearts each though? All they really did is outline the edges and change the icon
I dunno
No, it's 3x the regular cape cost
so two black n white = 300 hearts woah-
Anyone have any pictures of the 11 star pattern? 
those lines are expensive
maybe it's made with Gucci designers
300 ascended would've been better, why u gotta take my hearts TGC 
@proud coral #beta-screenshots-videos
i just wish the 11 star pattern appears elsewhere instead of only the top one because my hairstyle would easily cover it 
Thanks! Couldn’t find it!
150 hearts isn’t even bad, the design just needs to match the price tbh
i don mind hving the 11 star pattern at the third middle icon , since we wont be getting 12 wings anytime sooner
12 star pattern when 
what's that mysterious wedge icon for though
Also is that the Youtuber nastymold?
Oh they have the Youtuber role nvm
for vets 150 is not a scary number but it has to be worth it or i will b saving for the ultimate vet item : capeless cape 
Capeless is not in live though
it may come to live someday since its thr in beta all this while?
Haha! Imagine if you need to unlock the new cape tier before unlocking capeless

I don't think so, it exposes a lot of glitches with cape and body interaction and looks really bad imo
it could, but it's unlikely
I like there will be something new after you're done with constellations. They aren't meant to be unlocked in like two weeks so it makes sense to make additions pricey.
Oh i see, ive been lowkey waiting for the day though 
Ktjn has mentioned many times that the capeless cape is still in development there is no guarantee that it will enter live but there is still a possibility
i know how to be capeless in live tho..... just go in the trials lmao
You unlocked the constellations in 2 weeks? 😳
Nooo! I said they aren't meant to be unlocked fast
How abt the items they gonna add in orbit? IIRC there will be addition to orbit constellation?
iTunes lol
Darn autocorrect haha
woah the "new" capes are so beautiful 
There are more wingbuffs I think now, so idk they'll be adding anything to orbit soon
in the elder hair constellation?
oh hello @prisma swallow 
No to unlock those capes, I think you need to buy a buff first (which again costs 3x of the buff for that spirit)
I still wish seasonal ultimates came back though
In Orbit i rmbr they were adding nodes to the elder hair tree? I thought that was for new cosmetics too last time 
why does every green cape other than earth look so...bad? bad isn't the right word, the shade of green they picked for them is awful
Its made of sky kid puke
Because the new cape has the same green of the one that u think awful?
It’s a moss / khaki green, doesn’t look too bad
no no, some people like this green, but it just looks really unappealing to me
Hey all
I don’t really go on beta to try to collect capes because I’m perfectly fine with having a few
But above the few I got from season of sanctuary, are 3 capes. What are those 3? I haven’t unlocked them, nor can I preview them because every time I attempt to do so, the game crashes. Like I kept testing it to make sure it was the cape that made the game crash and I’m certain it is.
Ye i think it looks decent... I like puke greens
earth cape greeb is sharper , i love that more too
The shade of green varies in realms too, I think quite a lot of the capes look very dull in valley
in some lightings it looks great and in other lightings it looks 😔
earth cape in valley looks like the green cape in vault 
It's the same green cape from wasteland, Raf, just upgraded version
i just hope next season's capes are better, prophecy capes din grow on me after a month 
@lavish dune update your game
the crash should be fixed, have you updated to the latest version?
green really needed a color update with it's upgrade
I'm still wearing the enchantment cape from the TS since like 3 weeks 
Myx, thats my first and fav season haha
Is earth cape totally same as normal cape only different colour n icon?
Ah I see
I set TestFlight to update automatically but it appears it didn’t this time. Thanks @kindred fossil & @copper bison 
Yea idts it gives you access to any special area or any special ability
i wonder why not many ppl flex around with earth cape just like the other IAPs , its good looking
Probably because the shape is exactly the same as regular capes, and it doesn't even give you access to any other area :/
wat were u saying about?
How can i use serendipity and friends finder?
I was talking about the earth cape
i'd think it has something to do with how hard it is to match outfits with, there's rarely any green cosmetics in the game or a palette that's pleasing enough
but ppl r wearing lanterns and halloween capes everywhere 
The Halloween capes have those cute little spikey things 
Anyway bye I have to go for lectures 😔
Even the covid flowers are more commonly seen than the earth cape 
Bye Myx! 
Whats the serendipity and friends finder in updates? Can i use them now?
The what flowers now?
the flower cosmetic on the head, a charity to support covid fighting
flower is a cool accessory, it goes well with a lot of outfits.
Oh that
Yes even the flowers are commonly seen but ive nvr seen any earth cape in months , none 
Can someone tell me what is serdifity and friends finder in update
Maybe because less people like the earth cape design??? It’s not that big of a deal
Hey but do i need to finished a constellation to unlock new tiers?
btw i like the new black cape more than halloween cape, it looks fierce 
wait there are visuals for white and black now ?
Azaura its not a big deal, we r just discussing here, chill bruh 
can we type our friend name to search them now? i wish we hv this
So we can't really use them now?
oooh i see, the new pattern is only for V2 white and black, i wish it will be applied to every V2 cape actually
#beta-announcements says this though we don't really have any other info on it.
Introducing Serendipity for Facebook and STAR: Opportunity to connect with strangers who also own STAR pins or anonymous Facebook friends. Using feature allows you to warp to the other player, it is up to you if you wish to become friends after playing together.
Oh, It was that part! I got it now!
Thx for your kind answer!
Me too i think it definitely requires a redesign of some sort for 150 hearts I’m not happy

I see you, @hasty vessel, you should probably sleep, brah 

What about the pattern of the office cape?

skybot the sneep police
how do you get those new cut out capes?
cut out capes?
shoot, my beta keeps freezing
it froze after 10 sec whever i log in
Is this normal?
This is probably a dumb question, but is there a way to see a preview of the ascended capes? Or should I actually unlock it?
in the closet you can preview the capes i believe
I don't think I found the preview button for the ascended capes
i din find them in my closet either
Wait what's the official name for the upgraded capes? Ascended capes?
hmm, i'm not 100% sure cause i'm kinda trapped in limbo and can't get in beta. maybe you can preview it, maybe you can't. i can't help on this one. 
Aight me too, beta manages to stop me from checking capes atm so I'll wait until that's patched
Is anyone having difficulty to play beta now too?
i'm currently CR in live, i will try later...
i've been stuck unable to update beta since the force update for beta before prophecy hit live. i can't play live either.
wow
Wow i really love the new cape! I hope they add the black and white capes too :(
black and white capes have been added
Black and white are still under development. I expect they'll be added soon™️
hello harbin! 
I don't think they're added in this current version? 
Hello Kai! 
really? where are those screenshots from then?
Is it just me or is there always a Kai patrolling this channel?

the kais are always at least lurking 
i was so confused for a second like i didn't say anything yet.
I haven't checked myself, but early after the update people were saying they weren't in yet, perhaps they just got added or the screenshots are from elsewhere 
Some players bought them while they were available in the previous update, now they took it out from spirits trees until they’re ready to reintroduce
so the wingbuff also costs triple which means 6 for each?
where to find the new black and white capes?
Hello beta peeps!
!seasonwhentellmebruh
the stars have aligned! The time of Prophecy is here! Set forth on your quest to uncover the ancient truth 
ooohh i see thankss
ok so, I know that the prices aren't official, but does someone have the prices for the new capes?
You can’t right now, they’ll be available in a future update when they’re ready #beta-announcements
So in addition to being moderated by TGC staff, skybot, elders, shepherds, this channel also has Kais? Cooooooool 
sky bot wth
okay thanks 
What's the pencil thingy wth,,
Basically they are 3x the default cape prices, so:
Yellow - 9 ♥️
Red - 30 ♥️
Green - 45 ♥️
Blue - 60 ♥️
Dark blue - 75 ♥️
Purple - 90 ♥️
Pink - 120 ♥️
Black - 150 ♥️
White - 150 ♥️
(Correct me if I’m wrong please!)
omg tysm!
i hope at least the black and white ascended capes get an upgraded look
is there a new brown cape for the price of 0 hearts? 
It was bugging me whole morning what some those new capes are similar to. It’s the circus tent designt
I like the teal one and purple tho.
wow that's expensive
excited to see how those capes turn out 
before I saw the new capes, I thought they would look like translucent versions of the normal capes. still, i think the idea is cool.
not really my types its like something is missing🤷🏻♀️
I’m veteran,but I don’t have that much hearts
. I’d better start to save up
omg the new capes are so cool 
-stretch fingers-
well, it’s time to grind again huh
i have 95 hearts stacked up in live, that's baby stuff
dark. you're rich in both
Ive been playing sky for almost a year now
And looks like imna have to play for another year for 700 hearts 
I have had about 6 people since yesterday ask me how to play sky in beta .... somehow I think they shouldn’t be in beta .... what shall I do ... report them ? I did say please go to App Store or play store to download the game
nah, i'm broke as all hell, many players have 1k stacked up
Yeah I get like 1 heart a day so it's gonna take like 2-3 years of playing every day for me to save up unless I somehow find a way to save more faster
still crying in my 10 hearts
Im not gonna lie
New capes look like cookies
With the colors being frosting 
I CAN'T UNSEE 
the aaaahhEyes emote broke on my screen, only one eyeball is twitching 
Veteran capes go brr 999 hearts
@desert mango for android, anyone can join through a freed slot, so it should be fine as long as its not 3rd party
not sure about iOS though
although i did join through a freed slot as iOS during late-enchantment, but i heard that's not the case anymore?
I have 65 only 
iOS is closed and can only be accessed through TestFlight with an invite.
But it's super weird that people ask you that while in beta.
Yes I think it’s weird too ... my friend right now is with someone who just asked them how to play too ... crazyness
That's like...surreal. "How do I play this game that I am currently in?"
(Although, I do have my suspicions on the answer.)
I think they’re hackers or got it through a hack by someone. Because There was a player who couldn’t join because she didn’t have the last update. She said she didn’t download the beta by an invite. And She was Chinese.
||Yes, I think they download "something cool" and get all these cosmetics that we see them wear, but they are always hanging out in Prairie social, so I don't think they actually understand what the game is about. They definitely don't know what TGC is or what beta version is for, because I asked once.||
But again, we shouldn't be talking about this. I just wish they'd be gone. 
no need to be a hacker to get into beta. but its not allowed
Normally, who have beta should know how to play because they have live version of the same game. But their question means that they don’t know how to play or this is their first time playing the game. I’m not sure tho.
it is. many chinese players play beta as their main account and have never played or dont play often the chinese or live version
||What is the differences between our version and Chinese version? Are players forced to pay money? So all of them prefer beta||
how many chicken wings do you need to get to 11th level? i'm to lazy to open the game and check

the chinese version is managed by another company than TGC. they get TS every week if im correct and they are late on seasons
they also have unique cosmetics such as the kizunai ai pack or the red flower
The 11th wedge is here 🎉
And it looks ||not as I expected ||
the netease version is sky but not run by tgc, seasons are delayed (prophecy is gonna begin in probably a week), ts schedule is wacky and completely different (sometimes they mess with the tses themselves), events happen usually late, and some unique cosmetics.
The Prophecy has been lost at sea, I wonder who'll find it...
I joined them and mine and my friends sky went crazy ... their are 3 of them all wanting to know how to play sky and they already had a red cape which is impossible to get that quick
Do the new wing locks ( I’m not sure if this is their name) give us new wings?
200 wings for level 12
1 more year until we reach it 
if there is no TS repeat @craggy karma ;)
but dw these 9 new buffs from base game will help, and the seasons should bring wings too
Well the new seasons will give more winged lights
16th wedge be like

Don't need to wait for 21st
Wait for 16th
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16th? Seems a very long time to achieve. I probably have my own children by then and they are one playing the game. What a legacy. LOL
I saw the 11th wedge in #beta-screenshots-videos and it is not as expected.
I imagined something more special.
Come to think of it... The 11th star patten literally looks like the Prophecy symbol!
(Resembles the Prince mask more than anything...
)
Same
11 took 150
12 took 200
13 took 300 
300 wow
11th wedge....... A year......
me
just need 5 winged light for this 11th wedge...
That's 2.5 months of no repeat ts s
In live version I have 150 wings already 
I just need 1 more 
Classic Cape Lv2 are extremely ugly
in live version....
Classic Cape Lv2 are extremely ugly
@zenith iris Consider #beta-feedback, devs might change it in live
I honestly like the new capes,but the prices tho 
@hollow compass can I dm you please -I have a quick question
I really hope so. That's why im here
Send a #beta-feedback but be mindful that they are close to being finalized but still subject to change before it goes Live.
i'm definitely nowhere near 11th ledge lol 
i think i might go sneep now, kinda feeling dizzy from lack of sneep. it's like 2:30 am and i have classes today. see y'all later 
What if they add the pattern of old beta capes. I think they would be more beautiful. What do you think?
I do hope devs will change it into the cape design in the promotion video
the old beta designs? so pretty
does anyone know what the pink, black and white veteran capes look like?
Old beta design turn my phone into a frying pan
yes but they are not finished yet. they might change @tardy marsh
they won't for performance issues, look at the pinned messages
oh ok
The cape pattern from Light Awaits is beautiful. I think it's design is way better than what we have now.
Those new cape designs are sooooo basic.
450 candles of worth hearts for THAT?
But the early beta capes were too taxing on the game engine, which is why they had to be scrapped for Live release.
so sad...
Well if its fancy
People gonna use it to flex on other players 
So i guess neutral for all
Plus 150 If you add white and black cape 
722
of course we'll flex lol, hundreds of hearts spend...
Consider you unlocked an achievement for unlocking all veteran capes 
That's why we can't have pretty things. We need super phones to play the game.
722*3 = 2116 candles
Yes, they were beautiful and had a lot of meaning, much like the patterns on the coat in Journey. But I think the new designs have potential. They just need a little tweaking, because they do look a bit unfinished as of now.
Wait
Do we need to unlock the elder hair first in order to unlock veteran capes next?
Thenew capes look really heavy
it will be lowered with the double heart event, the gifts from friends, the meditation hearts and the boat hearts which basically cost 2 candles and not 3
Yes. The outline looks wobbly. Needs improvement.
Yes, but still. 722 hearts.....
Unsure. I have Forest unlocked, but I think I could buy other capes in unfinished constellations also.
@sick pendant Try to befriend with many peoples
You'll be surprised by how fast you can gain hearts
oh i know. i found it ridiculous for the actual design. i wont be trying to get them if they dont change much
So there is no way to have beautiful designs, right?
I think we have lots of beautiful designs in the game already!
You can suggest the devs to change in #beta-feedback
Minimal design pattern can be beautiful too.
They’re beautiful ,but I still admire the patterns of sky light awaits. They are extra beautiful
there are beautiful designs for seasonal capes, why couldnt they have new designs or these very very high cost items too?
For the next week imma trade 5 hearts everyday, which gonna gain me 70 hearts. And maybe a few more from boat and shrines and fragments
fragments will actually be suprisingly useful during the week ;)
The new design on the bottom of the capes are just for 11 stars??
The price of the secondary cloak is too expensive
The new capes are super expensive. I don’t think they worth the hearts. 60 hearts or 45 hearts for ONE line at the edge?!!!
these are new capes! they are not related to the wedges amount
why do you think that? they're meant for those who already have completed everything else, so not something you have to get.
Well the devs did say high costs don't equal to super fancy stuffs. Its just a symbol of how far have you gone in sky
Are these the new tier ones or the normal ones?
new tiers!
finally spending my hearts on beta
had 20 i wasnt using and bought teal cape and already collected 22 more towards fancy teal cape 
buk, you can leave ideas and suggestions in #beta-feedback
i agree the design does not match the pricing at all
these capes are more for people whove been playing a while and have nothing left to do i think. theyre long term goals not short term ones. the prices likely wont change
All cloaks are the same in modification, I think the price should be the same.After all, they just added black strokes
prices aren’t the issue imo it’s the design that needs to be upgraded
I still wish devs made a way to dump the candles too
I HAVE TOO MANY CANDLES 
for whatever improvements you'd like to see with the new capes feel free to leave #beta-feedback do keep in mind to be respectful and provide constructive criticism to help out the devs.
Just pushed me that extra bit to be absolutely sure I’m quitting Sky. The devs keep encouraging an unhealthy relationship with this game where players feel pressured to do Eden every week for eternity. Because logging in every day for the same daily quests for seasonal candles isn’t bad enough.
I cant update. Its says unable to isntall.
Oh, now I'm unsure. I have only 25 hearts and I was planning to get the dark blue cape, because I've wanted it for ages in beta. But maybe I should get one of the new ones to test out... Argh!
I’m veteran and I have all the cosmetics . I think I will be able to buy the new capes once they’re release in live version, but I still think they are very basic and don’t worth the amount of hearts and time.
well now i know who i need to spoil with hearts 
Where should I go to report on the price of the new cloak
Hey guys how to transfer my beta account from Android to iOS
the price won’t change but the design is subject to change
I feel you. With this new expensive items and wing buffs, I feel like on the edge of quitting Sky.
i don't think you can
!betalive
Beta and Live versions of Sky are completely separate apps. Progress/purchases in one have no effect on progress/purchases in another.
😭
Well its okay to put down Sky once in a while
Even i felt burnout sometimes
Your health is more valuable than any cosmetics in the game 
if theres a place where only ascended cape users can go.....
I like doing quests everyday... like I said to someone before .. sky is more than a game ...it’s a way of life ... a way to connect with friends ... you are not forced to candle run or do the quests ... if you want things then you do that to get them ... no-one forces you to do anything that’s just pure denial of the fact you see it as a game not as anything special to connect with people ..
If the design changes, three times the current price is acceptable.After all, not all cloaks look good with black strokes
@static fern I don't think there is anything to report on them, those are the prices. They're not bugs.
@blazing sail I don't think the responsibility lies solely with the devs. Players also have a responsibility in how they play the game. But I do agree it is worrisome how a lot of the new features seem to encourage an unhealthy approach.
@weary timber Beta and Live are separate apps, since beta is meant for testing purposes. It wouldn't be fair to anyone if you were able to transfer your progress between them.
Some people act like its all or nothing. The devs are trying to prevent you from "finishing" the game and getting bored. No need to quit because they added stuff for those players. But ya the designs need to change lmao
you got me on the first part... not gonna lie (but totally agree with u)
@tardy marsh @true lintel Please remove your messages in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
Beta content must stay in Beta channels 
If you have feedback about the upcoming cape design, put it in #beta-feedback
it makes me think I want to take a break in playin’ sky as well. unfortunately it gets very time consuming lately
If no one points out the shortcomings, then it will not become better
New update 🎉🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🎉🔥🔥🔥
That's not what I meant. The prices are not bugs, so you can't put them in a bug report. But you can leave your thoughts in #beta-feedback
There is pressure. If you want the seasonal ultimates you have no choice but to do the same quests every day that you’ve been doing forever. Unless you want to spend $100 or so to get it. Then the traveling spirits come every two weeks and force you to keep a stock of ascended candles for them. Eden + wing runs together takes several hours. This isn’t just stuff you’d earn naturally by just chilling out and hanging with friends. You need to devote serious time to the game. I’m over it.
oh gosh im sorry, I thought you could send ideas based on features in beta there. Ive removed the message. apologies. 
I can’t be around all this complaining about sky and the new capes designs and whatever else people have a problem with ..expressing their issues with sky without thinking about the feelings of the people who put in the hard work .. I’m stepping back for a week .., the negative stuff is lowering my positivity ....
I think if you have a problem with sky so nagative then you should stop spreading it around like wildfire and message them directly
Here is my opinion about the design
Is think is a little bit simple right now for the price we see. And I hope that everyone have seen the design of @/Moss in screenshots and videos. For me, the design is amazing
But maybe will have a lot of time to make. So I guess that they can make, for example, the capes longer in some places and shorter in other. So they will look more like a birb wings. And maybe add some little “metal” texture to the end. Btw, sorry my bad english. Maybe I will draw a design for the capes later
Thank you
We are not saying that they didn't work hard for the cape designs.
We are beta testers, we have to give honest feedback about how we feel about new stuff and not sugar coat everything
If we don't like it, we'll say we don't like it. No-one said that they didn't put work into them
AppUnwrapper, that's ok too. Take a time out or just leave the game. I still maintain that none of these things are a must. All players have a choice whether they want to do that rat race or not. Perhaps some of them shouldn't compared themselves with their friends so much, or feel pressured by what they have.
Since when was it negative to share your honest opinion? Lol bye
What disappointments me the most is the message by the Community Manager saying we are not obligated to unlock if we don't like it. Sorry, but I really believe the "If you don't like it, don't unlock it" kind of reasoning because unlocking something means progress. The fact that they put something in the game make us obligated to unlock it whether we like it or not. Oh how many items there are that we don't like but we still unlocked them because we need it for the Ultimate Gifts?
But you don't need to unlock these items for the Ultimate Gifts of the Elders.
I dont think unlocking the design affects the progress in getting the Ult gifts???
we can express our honest opinions wether it's good or bad, but we gotta keep it "friendly" no need to be harsh
samuel we're not in beta to accept everything TGC does. we would just be volunteers bug testers. we're here to give feedback and it means telling them when we dont like something too.
The blue and red are the most perfect shades of their color
the new capes don't effect your completion percentage
does anyone have rythman pants and could try on the new blue cape pls?
@hollow compass I am leaving, but I was explaining why. I don’t think dismissing people’s criticisms as just being negative is helpful to this game. But if people just want to endlessly praise everything about it, even the bad stuff, go ahead.
Exactly,
Beta testing is to give HONEST opinion about how we feel about new things, which may or maynt be always positive.
Saying negative about the new stuff doens't mean hurting or disrespecting the devs, it's a help for them as well because they can figure out how people honestly feel about it
Oh I was confused, I sent my opinion in the #wishlist-and-ideas-archived because I didnt know there was a #beta-feedback channel lol
Please, give only honest feedback, if not, then don't give feedback at all. False feedback can effect final descisions
exactly ! that's called a field survey
I hope I didn't give the impression that I was praising everything. That's not what I meant. I am saying that I see a lot of people get caught up in this idea that you have to have everything, just like you said, and that is bad. But it is also our own responsibility to step away and calm down, when that feeling grabs us. I don't think it's fair to put all the blame on TGC.
but i dont like the way they neglect negative feedback by saying we're a minority. it felt very very disrepectful. the TS changes coming in Live would be a very very sad thing but i guess we don't have any influence on this at this point :/
Anyone got any pics of how 150 capes look?
Although I collected all cosmetics in sky, I’ve never thought to quit it. I put my money and time in it and it won’t be easy for me to just click the delete button. Plus I knew friends there who I want to keep in touch with them.
If someone want to quit the game then it is their choice. They don’t have to spread negative ideas about the game.
We know devs have put a lot of hard work in the game and we appreciate that. We are beta testers and We just give our honest opinions about ne things before their release in live version.
When yiu don't have anything to do in the game, what else will do other than buying what's left? That's why you end up buying everything no matter how aginst you are the idea to buy everything
Thank you
i haven't been here since the beginning of the convo but i doubt anyone said something like if you don't have anything good to say then don't say it.
Yes, a friend of mine pointed that out too. That when we give negative feedback, it's said that we are 1% of the playebase. And otherwise it's said to give feedback. But let's see about the ts system, i hope it's improved
Were someone criticizing how the cape looks lol?
you'd be surprised @dim tapir 😆
They did tho. Using more words.
Yes, because of that we’re giving our honest opinion whether we’re veteran in the game or not. So we’ll continue loving the game. We aren’t saying devs didn’t put hard work in it.
No, if you don't have good to say and only have negative feedback, you should say it. Please don't refrain from negative feedback. Say what you want, just don't be rude
~~uhh yikes ig
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Sky was one of my GOTY last year. But my criticisms of it back then have only gotten worse as they add more things to buy. I like the game the most when I can log in whenever I feel like it and not feel chained to it. But you can’t play that way without missing out on some cosmetics FOREVER.
And if anyone targets you for your opinion, then they are the one with a fault, not you
At the end of the day, we will never agree on everything.
All we can do is be constructive and polite in our negative feedback also. There is a difference in saying "You're awful" and "I think you can improve on this".
If they at least gave new things to do to earn those candles it would be one thing. But it’s the same quests for seasonal candles every day for the past 1.5 years and adding new things to buy doesn’t make that better.
Will we need complete level 2 of the cape for finish constellation ?
I haven't downloaded the update yet, but there should be some information about the new capes not counting towards constellation completion (elder hair) in game before the feature gets to live. I don't have any ideas besides for moving them to where you get the elder hair.
Yeah, it feels like a never ending loop of buying stuff.
I know many people say "don't buy it if you don't like it" and i bet, when they have Nothing to do, they'll themselves buy everything.
And if they want to introduce new stuff, at least price it so that it's accessible. It takes me around a month or more to get 50 hearts for black cape. You can only imagine how many months or years It'll take to buy 730 hearts worth of stuff. It's like a never ending loop/trap
My opinion for new item. Im very excited
even the design looks pale but finally I can have more motivate to candle run and trade with all my friends. Finally my candle stack Will worth of time. And cant wait for the double heart event ❤️
adding new things to buy just means people who want what they want from a TS has to wait forever, lol. the shimmy emote that we had earlier took almost a year for it to arrive since its season ended
Oh, this definitely. I would say it usually takes me 10 mins to do the quests each day and I am often only half paying attention. It is a recurring feedback, so I don't know why they haven't changed the quests. They are asking for new prompts to the med spots, but I would love it if they also brought back some of the old quests from beta. (Check Tara's videos for some ideas.)
The level 2 of white cape is not avalaible now ?
These new items may not affect the count towards unlocking the Ultimate Gifts of the Regular Spirits, but how about the items from Seasonal Spirits and items that are needed to unlock the the Constellations? How many items are there that we don't like but still unlock them?
Is it only me who don't like the new capes? For this price maybe uniqe patterns would be better. It's like they're downgraded capes from lvl2 to lvl1 :(
Or tgc has something in their mind that later it'll be nicely patterned capes with each upgrade? That'd be ace tho 🤔
We can unclock it ?
the old beta quest that had the turtle iirc? id like that back!
how about the wingbuff? is it add on too?
The old cape designs busted/cooked some phones, so it's not coming back any time soon
To say we are not obligated to unlock something if we don't it? How I wish we really have that option in this game.
Do you mean we should be able to just go straight for the UG? I don't think there is any game with paid seasonal content that doesn't "force" you to buy some stuff you don't want in order to get the ones you do. It is the nature of it. And also, not everyone will agree with you on what is an unwanted item. 😉
well, for some people who manage to unlock white and black V2, there is a new pattern, i guess they will apply it to all the V2 capes
and i would like to actually haha
What did the old cape designs look like?
I might be late for some convo about pressure from new item.
I just want to say, let's doing water emot. Relax and you'll be fine. 
For how many years will you cr,? the capes need around 2000 candles.
That's cool. I'm looking forward to it !
check that #beta-screenshots-videos message
@frozen marsh i went in Eden, nothing new anywhere in any elder tree. the pink white and black capes have been removed, maybe because they will be even more unique
/hey uh, what does serendipity means?
happy to hear that! thc Morue
the white one is so beautiful
i think this does apply to the V2 capes, because you can get ult gifts without buying the V2 capes.
you can choose whether or not you want them.
it IS something youre not obligated to do because V2 capes do not impede or hinder your constellation progress. unless you mean something else lol
*thx
plus, V2 cape are really really expensive, so it would be very long to complete constellation
@dense whale it means like 'a stroke of luck', something unexpected that is beneficial or good!
Yeah, ig that's why they aren't counted in the completion
It's already been established that we don't need to by the V2 of the capes in order to complete the constellations.
Thanks but i didn't mean the symbols but the pattern
Hm i think my discord broke, i cant see some convo. Its have pencil symbol and Empty chat 
wait what do you mean by pattern ?
/oh-you mean resize
are the prices of the capes gonna change if it hits Live or it settled already 
Will the normal versions of pink, Black and white be getting the new wing power indicator design?
an example id pull up for the game forcing you to buy something you might not want is the way the trees are ordered for TS.
for example sometimes i dont want the lv3 of an emote, i just want the cosmetic, but its necessary for me to spend hearts on it to unlock the item, so thats when its something that becomes obligatory
I hope the tress don't put a cosmetic wall behind another Cosmetic
anything can change in beta
@stray imp update your discord
NO! prices are final
"🔸 Costs are not placeholders"
The prices are said to be final tho
Well the edges are different on lvl2 capes. They have dark edges. Whilst lvl1 dont have it.
oh 
do the costs vary on different capes? like is the cost different from yellow to black
Ah okie, thank you Nils 
oh yeah so i was talking aboiut the flight power symbol lol there might be a new one, plus the pattern might change too...
Not edges i meant the star pattern
3 times the og cost
Since the soggy pancake version of black white and pink capes have new star design, will those star designs migrate to normal versions?
so if black cape costs 50 hearts, upgrade will cost 150 hearts? 
We’re unsure, what differentiates them atm is that they cost over 100 hearts
Ah okay. Thanks for the answers !
updating sky beta normally while getting rid of photos and videos for storage? na naw
deleting sky beta and reinstalling it from testflight with the new update? hell yeah
when are the capes gonna hit live? next patch?
ooh! i have a shocking amount of hearts in sky beta, huh
we dont know
and probably not soon at all
We literally just got the capes in beta today and not even everyone of them, so no idea when they will be in Live.
White Cape (Lv.2) vs Black Cape (Lv.2), which one to buy first?
Hopefully not tbh I’d like to see a redesign 
lol if this hits live i finally have smth to do with my 100s of hearts tho. nice.
hopefully they do more work for the capes designs in beta first, they look good but proobably not what they're worth exactly 
yeah, i lowkey do not like the cape design.
the color on the edge doesnt look good on most capes
we're striving to encourage TGC to modify the design, please don't say the word live it hurts my eyes 
Also, i think they should make the wing level indicator on white cape black
150 hearts huh 
although, i dont think this really * solves * the issue of players not having places to spend hearts.... this is just, prolonging it. when you collect everything youre not gonna have stuff to spend hearts on anymore
that would imply you have 750 hearts available and the inability to purchase more items returns
wait, wheres the black and white capes? i thought there was some
maybe i hallucinated it?
i know people who have 1000s of hearts accumulating dust on their live accounts cuz they played since launch lol
/that's- a heck lot-
But people like those are rare
then, devs are gonna just make more capes or items that you have to spend hearts on, which really just restarts the grind, so it never really ends. cycle of grinding
yeah but that doesn't reflect the majority of the players... I wish the prices were lower, because the design doesn't deserve them tbh
The problem is that the game is designed around repetition and buying things and adding new things just means the cycle never ends. When I started playing, there was at least an end in sight where I could just not worry about currency anymore (outside seasonal stuff).
Not really tbh all of my friends are long term players we all have a copious amount of hoarded resources
thats not the point though; its the fact that it forces a cycle of grinding because people will be encouraged to engage in heart trading for items. which goes against what the game wants lol
i personally think instead of black lining design, it should be the darker shade of the cape's color. like if its red cape, the lining should be maroon or any darker red shades
would've been very eye catching compared to having all black
I am sure majority of Players don't even have 100 hearts... Talk about 1000s
What about the black cape 👄
your opinion is most definitely biased and subject to your own experience rather than representing the whole player base. the fact that you have friends with lots of hearts doesn't mean that they had this amount during all the stages of their player experience
i mean like, devs want hearts to NOT be treated like currency because theyre supposed to be special, right, and then they.... pull out cosmetics that cost 100s of hearts. which encourage people to.... treat hearts like currency
probably grey? and white should get grey as well
it's kind of ironic, isn't it
Ookay, white and black should get black and white. And rest shoulve been darker shades.
Also , it would've been nice if the edge glowed like the butterfly cape
they want hearts to be treaded as a token of friendship which is really absurd, hearts are essentially a currency in their form and friendship isn't about material rewards but emotional experience
All I’m saying is that there are a lot of veteran players running around sky with nothing to do with their candles and hearts, i never said they always had copious amounts since playing what i am saying is that they’ve built up a large amount of currency that they are unable to do anything with...
thats not the point i was making though. its the cycle of endless grinding that this decision encourages that i dont like :(
I wasn't talking to you hehe, there was another person who said something don't worry
Yeah, though we want more Cosmetics, we don't want such items that we can't even get in months.
Then there's no difference in getting or not getting new Cosmetics
oh my mistake acorn!! sorry,, >__<
its funny how hearts are supposed to be gifts, originally designed as one way only : you want to give someone a heart as a recognition. but there game cosmetics system just made hearts a single currency. people will trade with people they dont even talk to
oh i do like this idea! #beta-feedback if you haven't already 
i think the edges of the wings could be white or a pastel version of the color of the cape, maybe even just glows in the dark
having a dark silver lining doesnt work with everything (especially the yellow one for me)
i think if they went with a similar move to the butterfly cape outline i think it would be just great!
Hearts is definitely a currency now, especially with items costing 50 or now 150 hearts
Tbh, if the whole cape was just a gradient, it would've been very much better
it's both an ethical matter but also a game aspect. Finalizing the design at this point, together with the price, entails underestimating the fundamental purpose of hearts as a symbol of friendship, not a currency and not something material. It wouldn't be noble for TGC to renounce their own initial intentions for hearts this way
TGC: hearts are a currency shared with love, we made it so-
100% Sky Players that started playing 3 months ago: friend.
give now 
I’ve been playing since the start and once I completed all my constellations I stopped doing candle farming altogether. I still earn hearts just by logging in for seasonal stuff and lighting friend stars (but I can’t even stomach that anymore). And I still have nowhere near enough hearts to unlock all those capes. So yes if I wanted them I would have to go back to daily candle farming. No thanks.
They aren't worth the hours of farming imo
double heart event on live is.. gonna be something alright LOL... the game has cultivated a sort of "if i send you a heart and you dont send one back, youre not a good person" sort of culture, and x2 heart events will really intensify this by a lot
I think I can afford one? Maybe two? I have to check. So no this is not encouraging a healthy relationship with the game.
mmm...sky becoming a dress up game for me
Will they add those new capes to live soon?
Peeping in to say that I heard the 11th star design is here 
they made these capes for veterans (i think) who got everything and can finally get something new but tbh but as a veteran myself uhh.. no sir im happy with my capes 
Yeah, the thing " if i send you a heart and u Don't return, then you're rude" is very true, whenever someone sends me a heart i feel obliged to send them one. So i just told all my friends to not send hearts to me without my consent.
I also told all my friends not to send me hearts so I wouldn’t have to candle run and feel pressured to send back. Instead, I make sure that when there’s a quest to send a friend a heart, it goes to someone who still needs them.
@hollow cloak head over to #beta-screenshots-videos
@hollow cloak not only that, a lot of other Smokey stuff is here
I’m not sure i understand what differentiates these capes from the initial constellation? They’ve added more items which require the same time and patience. If you didn’t like farming for the initial constellation just don’t participate in the v2 capes?
This whole system provokes a desire to unlock everything, it almost seems like the new players are envious towards older ones because of the cosmetics. Such a price would be catastrophic for the community, we would be divided into rich and poor and the discrimination would be much more discernible as what it is now. I'm not ready to witness Sky transforming into a normal MMO, no.
the game Does kinda force a "daily login" system with seasons, too, so i can see how thats stressful
prophecy is a great example of this because the items this season are so expensive you can only spare to miss 7 ~ 10 days or else you wont get enough to unlock the ult gifts
It’s me or those new capes are very ugly? Disappointed again
MMO? whats that?
That's easy to say. However, if i don't buy them, I'LL always feel the pressure to buy them, and im sure that's the case with many others.
And I'll end up buying them after months or who knows, years
honestly while we're on this topic 9 days later my sky kid will turn 1 years old and one thing i miss the most about it is the old player base that cared about the actual game instead of trying to rush currency to finish stuff. i used to talk to new players and give them advice, ask how their day is etc. now all they ask for is how to unlock items and if i can give them a heart
MMO is short for Massively multiplayer online (game) which is what most games in PlayStation are for example
Mostly just seeing the new cape designs... The watermarks on the 11th star pictures make them look like edits, are those the final designs? 
But can you not see that you are putting that pressure on yourself? That’s not the games fault that you feel that way
nope, im not sure tho
@hollow cloak yes they're final as of now in beta,
But as they say, everything is subject to change in beta tho not really
@hasty vessel Thankyou! Exactly
TGC should make this their primary goal, to bring the game back to where it was.
They are close to being finalized but still subject to change when it goes Live. So please send #beta-feedback
upper class of sky: cape with the wiggily line
lower class of sky: cape with no wiggly line
I hope one day, after many years, when sky becomes less popular, they remove the currency system, and just make the game a one time play like journey,
You go through all realms, relive spirits collect stars and die in eden and go to orbit, and the end.
I’m so sleepy i keep dropping my phone lol, it’s been fun watching this convo, I now sneep. Goodnight y’all
It’s not even about upper and lower class! Don’t bring that in here! Think of all the people who dont have the funds to participate in every season?! Think about all of those people that feel left out even though they have the time to play
When you die, the game automatically uninstalls
@jade dirge game says bye bye👄
if the cape are really inspired from old sky cape, instead using silver color maybe using a brighter color, similiar to the old cape
SELF DESTRUCT MODE ACTIVATED
How are they inspired from old capes. From what I've seen, the old capes looked Nothing like these
i think adding cosmetics for veterans could work if they did something like add a "congratulations you finished the game!" reward for those who 100% the games non-updating features (completing all constellations and going to orbit)
ive always wondered about that since near when i started playing and when i figured out it was all just individual gifts i was kinda sad they weren't gonna band together and throw me a birthday party when i completed the game

Anyone have images of the old patterned capes from beta? I think i'm gonna see what i can do with combining some of the ideas people have had for what they want the capes to look like
imo sky is going through a very turbulent time right now, because the game has gone live for long enough to see people get weary of repetitive quests, and a lot of its recent decisions have been poorly received by players... :(
I’m still hoping for some more elder styles 😉
Let's hope things get better and they find a way
Has anyone gotten the 11 wing beats
im hoping to get some king eden action (eden ultimate)
big papa give me a cool crown pls!!
I want some free Cosmetics too, like, at least SOMETHING. Maybe a gift for completing all Constellations that doesn't cost like 999999999 hearts
a lot of "make or break" decisions they have to do.
i think TGC accepting community oriented suggestions like meditation prompts is great!
can you imagine what would happen if they hosted a "Design your cape" competition, lol, i genuinely think this is within the realm of possibility for TGC to do
Maybe if the crown became real, It'll cost 999 Ascended candles
Beta is rough because it’s not easy to get 11 wing beats because to complete that one spirit it costs 999 hearts 
Same tbh it would have been nice if there was a reward of acknowledgment for completing the entire constellation before these new capes were introduced
before I knew, i always wondered if something happens when we unlock everything from the base game.
I quote 'Before I knew'
There are new capes?
I myself thought they'll be something new , unique, gifts or stuff . But turns out it's nothing like that😭
having like a tiny little crown (in the headphone/earring section) would make me a happy skybaby
(also, enough with cosmetics, tbh i just want some minigames! like flight tag! and maybe some more friendship emotes!
)
TBH, why new capes? We have plenty of capes. Why not new pants or new hair or accessories?
I just had an idea
What if they made the special capes have the design of their constellation?
They've shown that they can put patterns on the capes (like the orange Sanctuary cape) ... So what if they put the constellation across the cape or something? Or the main symbol of the realm (like a butterfly, boat, etc.)
Wait no that would be a staff, jar, etc. 
Sky is forever growing , people add their own ideas of what sky is about and if their is a devide, that’s not the games fault ,it’s the people ,sky is the same as it always has been except it’s getting bigger and now new constellation stuff is added for those who have already completed to have something to strive to unlock , I’m choosing to participate and In no way are any of the cosmetics anything to do with games progression anyways , they are just something added to look cool , the game is about helping each other this is what has been lost lately because of all the negative towards changes , sky will be fine just as long as people keep caring about each other and helping each other that’s what is fundamentally will keep sky alive ,all the new level 2 stuff is welcomed by me as something else to get with the help from friends 😘
@late scarab the new capes have been the hot topic for quite many hours now
@silent lily I haven’t been here for the past hours
like paimon cape!

But then, why even add more Cosmetics when the goal of the game is something else, why ?
And when we already have enough
(joke) no more new capes. society has outlived the need for new capes. sky kids should start asking for more shoes. moths run with bare feet all the time. have some pity for them stick legs
do the new tiers give you wl when reborn?
Oh god it’s happening again beta is blowing up!!!!!
Maybe for lore purposes ?
Or just to quickly add more wb 
Both are welcomed though ^^
It would have been nice to get an ultimate (rainbow?) cape for getting all the base capes, maybe a special hairstyle for getting all the elder hairs? Something that doesn’t cost extra (I still find it baffling that you need hearts to get the ultimate gifts and can’t just show up in Eden and be GIFTED them).
yess it does give you wingbuff
@late scarab if this comes to live, that'll blow up too but with 1000 times more energy
How did we Get new wings because are there more spirits then?
i still think we should be able to get the bandage shoes that regular spirits wear. they look so good
Yeah, they make capes which noone wanted tbh since we already have a stash, but don't make what we've been asking for for years(okay months, years is a bit exaggerated)
@silent lily yeah it doesn’t make sense we Get new capes every season!!! And people who can’t pay for the season can still get cosmetics soooo
Imagine getting new pants from every constellation instead of new capes 
(Honestly though, while the amount of capes is large, they're undoubtedly the most important part of the game. They're what you see the most (mostly covers the skykid) and very important to gameplay. People want a different colored cape to distinguish themselves from moths.
I mean, yeah, now veterans have countless other ways to show they aren't moths... But I feel like that, as well as basic gameplay, is why capes are significant
Im gonna see these new capes do they look good?
Tbh, i thought the butterfly charmer would have the butterfly pot.
And even if that pot was 150 hearts, it woulve been 10 times more worth it than the capes
I thought the 🚫 would be elder's outfits 
I reacted with a no, sorry, I'm just giving my honest opinion :)
or honestly V2 utility items would be so funny? V2 fire works staff that shoots fire crackers or whatever. V2 table which seats 8 people instead of 4. etc
Do u need a spirit for the new wings
i think getting the elder masks instead(like those that the Valley Elders wear) would look great 
@silent lily you say “we “already have enough ,how do you know what everyone wants ? I think you can never have enough ,its better to have more selection .
that could be left to seasonal capes then, i dont think new additions to normal constellations should be limited to just capes
I mean, butterfly pot, valley twins' masks, forest elder's dress with those ribbons, such great ideas. But :(
Do you honestly think you’ll never burn out? That you’ll never get tired of farming for currency?
FOREST DRESS YES
I expected much more than regular colour capes with a few changes
they add beautiful but I expected more
Elder Items and Cosmetics 
Now this is really becoming the expectation vs reality meme
ouch, i wrote that whole thing in 10 minutes and it got vaporized in just under a second, damn, it does not feel good 
I farmed daily, eden included for 4 months and i got close to burn out
I want the elder spirits to have each special items
- wasteland spear and shield cosmetics
- daylight prairie butterfly pot and stuff like that
i dont even know what i wrote wrong, ahh it was so long and written 
i only login to do seasonal quests which take 10 minutes tops but im already burning out slightly (played since feb). now all thats left for me are my friends and even then we could always just quit the game and hang out in another game lol
Okay folks but as always with new cosmetics
Think about the rigging and design limitations 
I think there is a lack of understanding when it comes to the the teams acknowledgement of the time and effort placed into this game and what it requires to gain these items. For the time and effort these new capes are 100 percent not worth it in any way shape or form
I have farmed since day one! It’s how you play the game! If you “Burn out!” that’s your fault! NOT THE GAMES!
The thing about seasons are that they are like a shiny new toy after playing with it too much it loses its new fun and becomes boring (In my opinion)
If every game was designed along that mindset, they would lock out a large part of the playerbase.
Some people like to farm.
But the vast majority of people are going to fall under the casual category.
You do NOT want to make the game exclusive to those who are willing to grind.
then maybe you belong to the minority that likes grinding? thats not a bad thing, mind you, thats your preference! good for you!
but a majority of people are getting burnt out because the game encourages grinding. which majority do not enjoy lol
There are always going to be people who are super dedicated and will never get bored of doing the same thing over and over for eternity but you don’t cater to that small percentage. Or I guess you do. What do I know? 
If I played my absolute favorite games over and over every day I would learn to despise them.
@blazing sail your username seems familiar
These ‘design limitations’ need to be looked into urgently I’d rather wait than have mediocre items tbh
what i wrote was basically this but longer and listing more in depth about the examples:
what i wanna see more of in sky:
•minigames/multiplayer levels
(flight tag (multiplayer minigame) || friendship emotes )
•instruments
(voice/microphone, violin, accordion, music box (play and repeat songs))
•hat/hair cosmetics
(primarily hats | tiny top hat, tiny crown, hood/scarf )
•pants
(traveler (bags and pouches) and culture inspired clothing)
•masks
(wood forest animal masks)
bro, i love farming even though ive completed all constellations...and i can clearly understand why people burnt out
And I don’t mean games that are procedurally generated and change each time you play. I’m talking games like this where the content remains the same but you repeat it daily, weekly, monthly. It’s insane.
Thanks to @blazing sail I have memorized all spirits and WL locations. ❤
And candle bundles too. 😁
Sky was never designed to be a game where you just spend 3 hours of your day collecting currency like you're doing a job. But it is now, and that's because of the mass of Cosmetics
thank you for your effort hahahahah 🥳
yeah, i still dont understand why our lantern had to share a rig with the umbrella for instance? like, if the decision was made to save time so they could push out the lantern, i wouldve rathered they took the time to make a whole new rig for the lantern because then we could all hold lanterns and burn candles again lol
Honestly saying, while farming, i feel like I'm working and my salary is Cosmetics
mushrooms was the best feature ever introduced to Sky no contest and it was not even intentional. change my mind
Omg the letters appeard so quickly, who's this reacting god
People are entitled to get burnt out even with things they love! I never farmed like there’s no tomorrow afraid of losing things to do in game. I play Sky since day one of its global release (18th of July of 2019) and I completed all constellations this year in may. After that I only enter the game to record videos and do livestreams (I have the biggest Brazilian YT channel dedicated to Sky content). I barely enter the game I love the most. I only enter 20 min a day to complete daily quests. This new items in beta made me farm again but it’s boring you know. We need weekly quests like: complete 20 daily quests; collect 110 winged lights, do Éden, hug 30 friends, farm 80 candles 🕯, and so on....
if you press shift it doesnt close the emote menu ;)
Weekly quests like do the fire trail 20 times 🗿
on the topic of repetition too, the whole reason why TGC is finally accepting player suggestions for meditation prompts.....
.... is because people got sick of answering the same questions over and over.
and we only got this after Months of feedback. seriously. months of asking for new questions for this to happen lol.
Yeah, we've been saying that for quite a while and finally it's heard.
(Speed of sound slows down here)
they have tons of other questions ready in their files for months (since the beginning) but ig im not allowed to say
Most of my friends have been ignoring the questions and just placed in random. Stuff
I got rickrolled by a friend's candle because of that 
lol me
me when the meditation quest hits
" "
i havent been answering questions in months lol. random emotes
I use mostly 🐈 and 🤷♀️ as answers these days
Lmao me too.
My answer is "O" literally all the time.
yall dont do a single space bar and exit the quest ASAP? 
Id want quests like
"Say hi to the enchantement guide"
"Go meet the sanctuary guide"
"Get shot in a catapult"
The prices are x3 the original?v
Just new quests in general would be really cool 
yeah and meditation quests were supposed to be for players to reflect on their gratitude, too?
when something is repeated for so long that players dont even want to engage with your intentions.... you'll lose the players.
doesnt the whole thing with meditation quests pretty much parallel with whats happening to the game, just on a much smaller scale???
Yeah like new spirit reliving
they have tons of other quests ready also
what are you guys saying under the "the prices are 3x the original?"
.. "actoo"?
... You know what
In the update notice, Ktjn never said that the new secondary capes had been implemented. She just said they fixed the crashing...
Maybe this is just a placeholder and they're still working on the new capes.
I mean, look at the butterfly cape - it looked like it was construction paper cutouts initially, and then they made it look great 
You’re like in my head saying everything I’m thinking.
@strong canopy WHO ARE YOU

Reveal now
AC too (ascended candles)
so 75 total
OHHHHH 
Hey so in beta they added the normal capes with grey outline right
I think they’re kinda overpriced
3x 
I know i said I’d go to sleep earlier but I can’t help to see all this criticism. I know TGC has made mistakes before and this new addition may well be another one, but i think it’s necessary to acknowledge that they have been trying their best considering the absolute chaos this year has been. They’ve dealt with fires, pandemics, elections and good god knows what. So I guess what I’m trying to say is that we shouldn’t be too hard on TGC and hand out constant encouragement and criticism ONLY when it’s due.
oh no...you gave me hope
I think it’ll be nice if they make it maybe like one and a half times the price
Because if two times for black cape that would be unbearable
They wouldve mentioned if the capes were all still in development.
I mean ktjn said "they are close to final but everything in beta is subject to change"
i quoted the whole thing
considering we're saying all this because we Want the game to be good, i think this is criticism thats due
if they do something like the butterfly cape outline that would satisfy me 
Criticism is welcomed and mistakes are allowed to be pointed out
Just remember to be civil
Can you link/quote the exact message? 
Most of these criticisms have been highlighted before this year though, that’s not a good enough excuse imho. Sometimes it feels like our suggestions are entering a black hole
i mean my maniac self did eden everyday for months and still do it once a week so i got many AC to spend but i would have loved to spend them on actual new ultimate items
I wish we were on really hard quests, like the trials, to earn the special cosmetics
The decision to keep adding to the grind and making it worse (this season is tighter than previous ones) can’t be blamed on the pandemic. You can blame the pandemic for a lot of things, but it’s their decision to continue pressuring players and chaining us to the game.
Indeed!
There has to be a reward or something for difficult quest like trials.
I do believe that "goal & reward" are what make people gain more motivation to keep on going. If they work on this well, it would be nice.
While dropping criticism, remember, this is beta. Things are subject to change, and sometimes new things don't even get to see the light of Live. Just a very gentle reminder
Red candles instead of hearts, hope they consider this if they dont want to change the design
The current designs are too simple for me to put x3 the price on them
150 hearts for one cape ? That’s total of 450 candles
Too simple to use 450 on the cape
Im sorry but this is not something I would be excited for to put hard work and time on
people like to excuse a lot of decisions because "TGC is just an indie game dev company", which, i think we should absolutely be aware of in our criticisms!
yes, TGC is a small company and they cannot possibly accomodate to all players wishes
yes, TGC is doing their best for us
but it does not erase the fact that their decisions did not have a positive impact for the game, thats really all i have to say.
TGC encourages people to criticize while being civil but the chat can sometimes be so fixated on defending them that it makes discussions difficult ><;;
we are all here because we want the game to be good, to be fun! otherwise we wouldnt engage in so much discussion to begin with.
we ARE the players. why would we ever want the game to treat us badly :T
i mean all this comes after decisions such as not caring about OOBs, patching glitches, making TS items mainly pass-limited...
it really starts feeling like either they dont play their game either they dont listen to the community complaints and wishes
being told to send feedback and then that you're a loud minority if the feedback is negative :/
i've loved this game and i'm just detaching from it with all that. not talking about unrelated things such as more and more friends quitting
We all wouldn’t be here if we didn’t like the game. But the way it’s been going for a long time is not encouraging the wholesome behavior it claims to. It’s quite the opposite. I shouldn’t feel like I need to quit altogether just to avoid pressure to log in every day. But that’s how it is. Unless you can completely ignore that you’ll log in one day and see people in cosmetics you want that you have no way of getting anymore.
there are 50 million players and only a few thousand beta testers
we are a loud minority in general even with positive feedback.
wiat a sec someone send 11th wedge pattern in #beta-screenshots-videos pls
Also, i kind of feel like i wish ts was never introduced. Like for sure people complained previously, but they surely wouldve stopped after some months. Cause now, for new poeple, even if they finish Constellations, they will still feel pressure of ts and still farm. If ts wasn't there, there wouldve been no pressure and completing Constellations wouldve been it, ehich would've been better at least imo.
Currently even if i don't really want a ts item, i buy it since i have candles and then never use it. But if there wasn't this option to get old stuff, noone would've even complained.
Now, it always feels like a never ending cycle of farming farming farmimg. Aren't seasonal events enough for old players. And they can gift their candles in form of hearts to others of they're nice enough. With these capes, they've just increased the radius of the circle of this cycle.
ah that line is so dumb i hope u understand
Can someone tell me the new cape s prices? 
I said from day 1, but for some reason TGC is against this — seasons should just repeat eventually
Well, we are not a minority, Because beta and live are separate, they shouldn't compare beta playebase with live. Beta Exists for feedback and improvements, but they just can't let it go by saying that we're a minority
Actually you can just choose to not get the ts items. Imagine the opposite. If there weren't any TS what's the point of doing cr anyways? And if you don't cr with friends why play sky? Sure you can vibe but that's gonna get boring eventually.
Just my opinion, feel free to disagree
I have a YT channel dedicated to Sky (I’m Brazilian) with 13k subscribers. I started making Sky videos last year during Lightseekers season and when Sky was released to Android this year I had barely 1k subscribers. So I can say that my channel grew 12k subscribers because of the release of Sky to Android. And it is sad to read everyday in the comment sections that people are leaving the game because of its repetitive and abusivo prices of special cosmetics “events”. (Let’s face it, events in sky are not events at all, they are a period of time to sell special items)
The best way to avoid burnout for current players and also ensure new players can still earn everything, is just to repeat seasons.
It's not as easy as that , many people, including my friends, always buy everything.
As i said, it's easy to say, not do
what's goin on 
But what people that play since day one would do in game while a season is repeating? The point is that there’s not much to do in game if you are a veteran player, imagine if seasons repeat
I hope a day comes, when there's no need to cr, no pressure, no nothing.
But travelling spirits come back why feel pressured?
this is what happens when you try to please everyone. they should've just never made old seasonal stuff available.
they arent just "letting it go" though. we do give them feedback but we're not the only feedback they get. some beta testers give all their feedback without ever participating in chat. live players give their feedback from peeking at our screenshots and videos. this channel isnt the only feebcak they get. in general though sky is the first game ive seen take player feedback as seriously as it does so im a little baffled that people expect it to be even more 
thats why good endgame content could be cool
and one of the reasons these capes dont feel good enough for their prices
Right, but what that would mean is that everyone could go at their own pace. If you don’t complete the season bc you don’t have time right now to log in every day, you can still earn the ultimate gift when the season returns, even if it’s a year later.
maybe there should just be longer off times in between seasons, allowing everyone to take a breather from the monotonous grind before continuing on....
No game repeat seasons
repeating seasons can be interesting though, take halloween for example. people didnt exactly badger TGC about the return of past year halloween cape because we were guaranteed to get it every halloween.
its the assurance that during X month you will get the item you want, so you can drop the game for months until the old season repeats again?
Actually think of it this way: most, almost all games get boring eventually and sky is just one of them
are there games repeating old exclusive content for in-game currency?
Sky is not meant to be every other game, though.
They’re trying to separate themselves from typical F2P games but then use the same predatory practices like time pressure.
Well, acc to me the Season repeat idea is a hit and miss.
It's very good for new players since they can get Cosmetics without worrying. but not so good for veterans, Seasons go for almost 2.5 to 3 months. Veterans will have nothing to do in that time, so most of them will just quit.
The easiest way of giving the chance of getting past ultimate gifts 🎁 is by selling them instead of repeating seasons
Why does it matter what other games do? They’re not Sky.
it would be awesome if there was great endgame content and if players who had finished seasons would get regular candles instead of seasonals. seasons for new players and more candles for veterans
And it would be fair with players that bought past seasonal adventure passes
But that minimizes the work and time people put into earning them. Now you just sell them for a price. Bring seasons back, let everyone earn the items the same way. And since you can gift seasonal passes to friends, there’s no classist issues with it.
The point here is that tgc cannot satisfy everyone's needs and how boring it gets depends on every individual. Sky could be the most interesting game in the world and still some people might think it's boring so a long term solution that satisfies everyone is to find
Yeah , i kind of agree that sky is a bit like other games.
I would also say, half of the playebase plays for Cosmetics.
As all of us saw when the ts system changed , many people said that they'll quit since they can't get Cosmetics and that really saddens me. Like Cosmetics matter but friends matter 19399399 times more than that.
But that day, i saw and realised that the game runs on the idea of getting Cosmetics, and Cosmetics are what keep half of the people stuck with the game.