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And people who don’t speak Cantonese/mandarin aren’t necessarily Not from China 🇨🇳 (immigrants)
This is spiraling back to beta talk
Has anyone managed to complete fire trials alone since update ?
Must be a bug cause i cant do it ... The firey mogwai kill me no matter where iam and theirs no escape
Who here got their first seasonal heart! because of the updated cosmetics chart 
The fire trial is too terrifying. I will never try it alone. Always bring the wife. Meat shield/battery
I got my first seasonal heart like two days ago, now saving for invisapants
Can I ask something, friends?
What do you call something-like-smoke in Trial of fire?
@icy hollow boogies 🤣
Because we always play everything together I didn’t even know you could be teleported back by the darkness in the fire trials. After the update before this one I noticed if you let go of partners hand you start to die. Freaked me out. I was like having “1st time Eden trauma” all over again.
Samuel try play in white screen, I kinda did it today😂
Is anyone else crashing in wasteland after doing multiple deep calls near crabs? Happens consistently to me..
Does it happen to someone else that it crashes when you are in Golden Wasteland? 😦
Can I ask something, friends?
What do you call something-like-smoke in Trial of fire?
fluffy smokey ball
or smoke shrimp
Old concept krill
@limpid vapor @visual ivy yes, it's a known issue
It’s not in #beta-known-issues though? It only says about the crab spell or whatever. Not the normal deep calling...
godless is right. the known issue is that the crab call spell will crash the game. I think we've figured out the issue is not the spell itself and morflipping that many crabs at once that crashes the game
It's useless to give them smokey boy a nickname. I end up cursing all the way to them. Oh my god, what have i done to this innocent game
seen: shadow fuzzies, vibe checks, krill farts, zoomy bois
godless is right. the known issue is that the crab call spell will crash the game. I think we've figured out the issue is not the spell itself and morflipping that many crabs at once that crashes the game
@random gull I'm not sure the issue is the number of crabs. The Shipwreck is safe, and I can flip a ton of crabs at once in there.
But it does seem to have something to do with the act of flipping crabs, rather than any particular method.
anyone stuck with white screen during fire trial after the first portal, unable to move anywhere? 🤔
Earlier I wasn't even deep-calling near crabs just flying above it, the app suddenly crashed on me idk

Just report as much as you can I guess
the devs will figure out what the problem is
I mean, the game crashed without me doing a deep call as well, but I saw that someone near me did one, so to me it seems that the crashes were all related to deep calling.
I mean, the game crashed without me doing a deep call as well, but I saw that someone near me did one, so to me it seems that the crashes were all related to deep calling.
@limpid vapor It also happens if you're in a dangerous area with flipped crabs; when they unflip, it sets off more crashing.
I know that the fire trial is supposed to be done with friends, but what if i don't have any online? Wouldn't it be a good idea to have server merges so I could make friends during the trial? I just want to get to the end 
In fire trial, better hold hands or piggy?
Holding hands worked wonderfully for me, haven’t got a friend who I unlocked piggy with to do it yet. But I would assume holding hands better cause you don’t want your friend to die on top of you when krill farts fly pass you
Hold hands
Inwas doing fire trial with my friend and besides it took ages cause we completely lost direction i got dizzy from the constant white screen with my friends bouncing name on it🥴
i wanted to check out the fire trial after my friends went offline and its too much
hopefully they find a middle ground, where its both fun with friends and going solo
Guys I’m stuck in the trial of fire. How can we avoid those monsters? I tried everything but even if i stems in the light, I spread myself on the ground, I deep Call or whatever doesn’t work. I keep dying
Bring a friend and hold their hand. So much easier.
But it's weird. Yes, the Broken Temple Grounds and Sanctuary Islands have more crabs than most areas and are dangerous. But the Crab Fields have even more crabs, and I can lure scads of them into the ship and flip 8-10 of them at once, yet it's safe from the bug.
Memorise which candles the krill farts will pass by and which candles are safe. That’s what I did but dear god I don’t recommend doing it alone at all cause it’s like 100 times harder since you die SOOOOO much easier
trial of fire is fire
Your light won’t even flicker a single bit when holding hands while if you run alone it drains like crazy
Jajshshs i was gonns came here and say did u noticed a game grash when...and now i just saw the message in known issues

I think there's gotta be a middle ground for the difficulty in the fire trial. With friends its too easy. Alone its almost impossible.
I want to be able to do it alone, since I don't like warping to my online friends and asking them to help out
I left some feedback on it already, I hope it changes
Omg i finally got passed them firey mogwai after im not saying how long its rediculas... Guess what...., i got put on a white screen death loop... This is really evil... After all that... Driving me insane this hsppens 😭😭😭😭😭😭.
I was alone and the end was in sight and death loop happens .. Omg
Wow the water trial is pretty cool now
Yes, fire trial with friend: walk in the park. Fire trial alone: pain and suffering
friendship shines brighter something something
Yeah. As much as I want to do it alone so I can get used to it, I am gonna bring my friend through it in Live anyways so I might as well do it in beta with friends
That death loop stops whenever I start recording lmao 
Death loop is due to incorrect respawn coordinates, you can find your way out of the death loop by moving in one direction and by trial and error find out where the lantern is
CAN WE PLEASE APPRECIATE THE UNDERWATER TEXTURES IN ICE RINK LIKE I GASPED
JUST BEAUTIFUL
Death loop is due to incorrect respawn coordinates, you can find your way out of the death loop by moving in one direction and by trial and error find out where the lantern is
@carmine thorn ooo that makes sense. I managed to break it quite a few times but didn't notice the pattern.
Beta crashes at gw,, is it know issue orr
yes, kinda, it's not the crab call spell that's causing the crashes
For the monsters in trial of fire, try standing still next to a candle or some fire(stand as close as possible) whenever they're approaching. It worked for me
For the monsters in trial of fire, try standing still next to a candle or some fire(stand as close as possible) whenever they're approaching. It worked for me
@tulip moth that doesn't really work anymore
Ahh, got it. thanks. 7w7
I was out doing my dailies today, and for fun I decided to do the meditate quest and remove the message after. The spot appears again and I could place another message after I removed my first one. The days of forgetting to grab quests might be over, you’ll still be able to complete the quest 
it might depend on height, im a lil above average height and that does not work for me TvT
Hmmm I guess I should try it in chibi
Top 3 scenarios why you crashed in golden wasteland today:
-Someone was testing out the new #beta-known-issues to see how to trigger it.
-Someone read #beta-announcements and saw us yelling at crabs is more effective and wanted to see a bazillion crabs get flipped
-someone be trolling.
Long story short: please don't flip crabs too many times, or at all in gw until a fix is found. Thank you.
I'm pretty short after accidentally taking a resize, wonder if that tactic will work 
Im short in live (on purpose)and trying to get there in beta.
I was tall in both games and then used a resize pot for fun in both, went to smallest height in beta and 11 or 12 in live lol
Dang, mistake. Is there undo button for feedbacks?
Don’t think so 😭
just send it again after the cooldown is done, no biggie
Ok, will do just in a minute. Thanks Giccix.
The oob in prophecy cave become a grassland

I miss mountain oob.
its a good thing, might mean they wont block the oob 👁️👁️
The oob in prophecy cave become a grassland
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I miss mountain oob.
@uneven dust what really?nooooooo
There’s candles there now tho 😉
Top 3 scenarios why you crashed in golden wasteland today:
-Someone was testing out the new #beta-known-issues to see how to trigger it.
-Someone read #beta-announcements and saw us yelling at crabs is more effective and wanted to see a bazillion crabs get flipped
-someone be trolling.Long story short: please don't flip crabs too many times, or at all in gw until a fix is found. Thank you.
@carmine thorn my friend and I crashed in the boat area of Golden Wasteland doing nothing but fly to the pipes![]()
id rather they change it up a little than put a wind wall on it lol
I haven’t even been oob in the new area yet. I’m saving that for the live ver 
Is someone else's game crashing in golden wasteland?
I tried two times already and always crashes in the same spot where you honk to burn the darkness and there are a lot of krabs.
yup, lots of people having the same issue, please report if you havent already 
I will. Thank you.
So to clarify, the crab call crash only works if youre flipping crabs and its not a test call?
so i'm still updating the build, have the prices of the spirit trees changed? it said it was rebalanced or something in the update notes
WELL WHAT DO YOU KNOW THE GAME UPDATED A DAY AFTER I GOT OUT OF BETA
why did you get out
I wasn't playing anything of beta, neither the live version
yea okay
you shouldn't have been in a rush to leave... 
eh it's okay to me
i mean you're not missing out much
I really wanted to pursue bugs and see all the new things in update but I'm not even in a mood to play sky lately, so idk
has anyone else been experiencing a lot of crashes in golden wasteland post update? 
edit: I saw the crab call causing problems in known issues but every time I try to collect wax my game says n o
yea, crabs are angry at us and crash our game, literally
Cane someone help me with firetrial?
how can we report hackers on beta?
!reportplayer — Same way you do live, via friend tree
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
what are you supposed to do when the fire balls come
heh heh heh big brain move: log in, end up at home, use isle temple spell to yeet myself faster to prophesy cave 
If you manage to flip the crabs and not crash, the noise is too pleasant and funny to pass up though.
The most satisfying sound in the world: crab flipping
It’s like guarantee death whenever you see them 😔 and I tried going backwards to avoid them, but their death radius is huge
or they start bouncing #beta-screenshots-videos message
bat cape is really popular eh
@shadow niche
It's a fur cape, they're always popular
theyre partying
What's going on here👁️👁️
What's going on here👁️👁️
Beta being beta
@tiny umbra oh yeah, I like the ones with collars in the front too, like the rhythm ones 
People keep going into wasteland to spam loud call and it keeps causing my phone to crash and restart, so I think I'm gonna stop until the call crash is fixed
we might not get an update this same day, maybe try going later today in hopes people arent doing quests then
Wow fire trial is a mess death loop white screens so bad it made us both nauseous 🤢, so turned around due to white screens glitching over and over that we didn’t even know our direction
not me spamming crab call in graveyard
im joking i havent done that,,, , yet, beware an abnormally tall skykid in graveyard today then 
jarwho: you could go in a large group to wl, as long as ppl agree not to deepcall. less chance for mapmerge, guaranteed fresh map, less chance of encountering randos 
I got out my death loop and im on a part where you light candles on 90 degree turns .. The firey mogwai is circling you ... Impossible i tell u impossible ... I give up... Ive strugged and now have a bad white screen headache 😭😭😭 mummy 😭😭😭
Jarwho, I find it as a fun game. Finish the area and get the heck out asap before someone crashes you. 
but the shoulder pads like.... it's a great cape, idk which one I like better lol
Samuel, do you have any theory about prophecy? 
Fire was my favorite it’s terrible now, Very concerned for anyone with epilepsy because the white screens are so bad they pop they make sound the flash afraid it would cause a seizure
omg... someone who is friends with kai/treble maika please warn them!! I remember they mention they’re very photo sensitive 
oh also general reminder to keep feedback respectful
saying this because i know a lot of us are very angry and frustrated at the fire trial, but thats no reason to go all caps lock and lash out at the devs in #beta-feedback (this is an example but i dont know if people are sending feedback on all caps lol)
Samuel, I know you can do it. It is a bit frustrating and I admit I spent more time than I'd like to disclose, but it can be done solo.
is there any way to avoid the fireballs or you gotta be fast
That crab call spell is so dangerous.

Yeah ive posted a little of my theory... Id post some now but my head is killing me for the first time in years .. Too much death white screen .. If you search my name you may see some of it ... Or if you want when i feel better i will show you what i have written about prophecy
Spent almost 1 hour and passed fire trial alone
Tips: don't go alone
Bring your powerbank
If you stuck at white screen, try to slide your control joystick you will back to normal if your kid touched fire torch (tell me if that work😀)
@desert mango im sorry to hear your condition, get well soon.
Also dont worry too much, i will search for it. I really like your theory about Season of Propechy 
they made the bat mask pass exclusive

Now, instead of bug hunting, I'm going hacker hunting, lol
Is it possible to finish fire trial rn
@compact onyx where did you post that theory at p,ease

time to go bug my friend for a pass this season
its possible but extremely hard solo
Yall beta player : frustating about fire trial
Me, who is waiting for live ; nervous laughter my sanity is in danger
Lol
After much trial and error, yes, NightFury, I was able to finish fire trial. It might feel impossible, but the "courage" aspect of it is just run through when you have the opportunity and only stop to replenish your light.
Well I’m ubering someone through fire trial in a bit, so I should be fine, right? ...right...? 🥺
Thankyou so much flos .., i studied the murals alot...ive always loved stuff like this 🤍
i posted theory here and on lore channel by accident one morning when half asleep but thats been dealt with 😂
Oh yeah I refuse to do fire alone in live, thankfully my partner already agreed to let me drag them through the trials when it’s ready for live
fire trial with friends is extremely easy. your flame doesn't even flicker in the dark, just gotta watch out for the whispers 
Yes. Fire trial right now: with a friend:walk in the park. Alone: pain and suffering at dark souls level of difficulty.
Maybe i should as my friend to do fire trial together lol
Still im wondering if my phone will be okay with the trials... 
Hey wait, can someone take a pic in valley social closet mode of the rhythm hair and the bat mask ?
Wyiott i will tell Kai. It’s sryly bad. I’m really not a sensitive type but I got dizzy too 🤢.
We share the same interest! I really love the lore of this game, you should join us in lore after the beta content went live!
No pressure tho, i hope you will get well 
Goodnight everyone im off to sleep .. I feel like ive been fire mogwaied 😘 take care 💙
oh nooo pakka, I hope you take it easy too 
thanks pakka
everyone else who's sensitive as well please take care too!!
I've already been warned ^^; can someone who's not gotten stuck in death loop send me pics of the new fire trial so I can see how it changed? water was
this morning
I think there's a pic in beta screenshots and vids, they made it more cave like
Fire is pretty much impossible now. Standing next to or on top of a candle no longer saves you. I have not tried going with a friend to see if that works. Not happy with the change
We finished after all, but if it was unbearable i would have just closed the game.
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I am about to try the fire trial solo 
I noticed in fire that if you keep your candle hidden when the creature is coming your light gets drained slower. Idk if it’s real or not but it helped me finish in about 15 minutes on solo
Maybe cause lore/mechanics wise we're pulling that candle out of our chest
we're vulnerable
Maybe idk haha
I hope that one day they will put for sale the definitive gifts with real money, those of android We missed a lot of things 🥺
noo my trial of fire is stuck in a death loop
Fire Trail Hack: Sit on the candle
Rest In Peace my solo effort 😞
@random gull #beta-screenshots-videos message at the end of level 1, it's more of a dark, cold cave now
How to exit death loop: It will respawn outside but near the respawn point, you have to quickly move your sky kid blindly when you noticed it's respawning
There is a black wall on the second floor of the fire trial that blocks you view completely of the candles
trial of fire iOS lifehack: when the orange lights thing is near just pull down the control center for a few seconds and it will pass without you dying
The fire trial is just mean 👀
So much for a star, TGC. you want us to spend an hour on a fire trial.
finishing the fire trial solo is near impossible 
I... Spent quite a bit more than an hour earlier to complete fire trial
i couldnt finish it 
i believe the fire trial is meant to be completed with a friend. 👁👄👁
i haven't completed the updated fire trial yet. Gonna try it again later 
ye lol
Yes it is better to complete with a friend, also sit on candle helps to dodge, like directly on it
that did nothing for me lol
grab more friends
it helps for me tho
i've sat on candles and still died. also, i dont wanna bother my online friends 
i also realized that before it passes you have to be on the candle and be completely still as it’s passing. that strategy helped me.
I was really close to the end and then got trapped in a death loop 
what if my friends cant go with me at the time
again i think it should be easy with friends and hard if solo, but not to the point where doing the trial is not fun anymore
you can bring me as a battery pack if you don't mind me being totally afk Aeras 
i'll take you up on that offer 
oh hang on I had no idea that the home teleport thing placed you back in the last checkpoint of the trial 
edit: all the candles are unlit and i have no idea where to go
grab a friend into fire trial! it is 10 times more easier. Drag your friend around and keep them on a candle the krill fart passes. both of you should be holing candles at all times and the one being dragged around should continue deep calling. thats my advice on the fire trial
@gusty belfry LMAO at krill fart
it should be the same difficulty as eden for seasoned players, maybe a little harder but not sooo hard as this, i still need to go do it myself
U will be separated with every fluffly attack tho
unlocking warp will save your life LOL
so like bat cape came back? if so how much and why id really like to know
Aru unless it changed when they updated last night, if you died and reset at a checkpoint you were always facing the direction you needed to go in
Sky amai, yes well actually and also no
There's two bat capes now, ones the air prophet's cape that everyone is referring to as the bat cape, which i can understand is confusing
Then there's the 2019 spooky bat cape which is as far as we know not coming back, as far as we know. There's still a chance but its beta
so we wouldn't know unless we're testing
,,,,,,I went the opposite direction oh my god w h y
i hope it doesnt come back, that'd be a major rip off. ppl paid for that cape as it'd be limited edition.
You can put that in feedback since we know for sure that halloween is coming back, but until we start testing it we wouldnt know, and the devs might already have something planned, and i would have paid for that cape simply cause its super cool 
If it's only available for a short time each year and costs money, I'd still call that limited.
I’ve tried sitting, opening windows, laying down and still die in fire. TGC took a fun trial and turned it into something that is not playable. You shouldn’t have to always find a friend to go with you as you should be able to achieve something on your own 🤨😢
well we dont know for sure. for all we know the krill could be there because of a scheduling thing left over from last year (see: some winter spirits making an appearance at random one day last year) edit: ok thanks windy lol
winter spirits ?
Adventure pass rewards change??
rhythm spirits before they become rhythm spirits, that's winter
The server splits when you die in earth trial 
I wouldn't call it a rip off though. limited time doesn't mean it never comes back (see all the holiday foods at the fast food restaurants that return literally every year but still say "limited time" on their ads). Thanks for the link to Ktjn's post Lyze 
Maybe they wanted to come back as soon as they could and couldnt wait till winter 
i feel old having experienced that, we got juggle and kiss early, dance caused you to crash
New meaning to 'dance till you drop'
@ornate marlin Yes, they changed around the trees a bit.
[In #beta-announcements : “Rebalanced the friendship trees of Prophecy spirits”]
wait what do you think ‘rebalanced’ even means in this case exactly
how do you balance a spirit tree
prices or
Adjusted prices and spots on the tree
They mean they switched around items in the spirit trees, some stuff became pass and others became non pass (still no eyes on where the music sheet is
)
@random gull limited edition specifically means a limited amount of something. Now there was kinda an infinite of the item, but an item is gone and is limited edition, it is gone forever. Like would they bring back the limited edition box? No. That should be for every item. Or else they shouldnt say "limited edition" anymore.
Question, if i have a problem with the beta where should I post to get help?
Items lower in the tree are cheaper and higher in the tree are more expensive. Also items did shuffle
thats like saying seasonal items shouldnt come back with traveling spirits because they were only there for the season tho
@valid terrace like change the rewards in paid and free pass
That's good too cause those prices would be so intimidating to live players, being used to having 8-14 candles for the first node
Ah, okay. Just wanted to make sure it’s what I thought.
TGC has always talked about bringing back past holiday items though so this isn’t a surprise
honestly the thing I’m most nervous about is ‘how many days can you afford to completely miss if you wish to 100% a season’
I had that anxiety with Sanct
oh will they bring the bat cape back? i'd love it
Well, what about the people who have older ultimate rewards? Will those come back? I hope not. They will lose their value.
here we go again
I think the only truly exclusive thing in sky are ultimates, and even then those will come back some day in the future, some day,
And isnt the experience and the memories better than material items 
You cant put a price on those
theyve expressed they want to bring back ultimates already, but not for in-game currency
It would still lose their value in the game. Im not trying to cause chaos, I just would like to express my feelings. I really dont mean to cause harm.
Fire trial: 2min to finish stage 1, 30 minutes of struggle in stage 2 before I gave up to take a break 
Well, what about the people who have older ultimate rewards? Will those come back? I hope not. They will lose their value.
@agile igloo What value?
TGC has stated openly that they're trying to work out a way to bring back ultimates while still "respecting" the people who bought the passes and got them in-season. But they haven't worked out exactly to do that yet.
Chinese server (I know, I know, different company, but still) are doing the worst thing with the UGs in my opinion
just selling them just like that
Well, what about the people who have older ultimate rewards? Will those come back? I hope not. They will lose their value.
@agile igloo jenova chen said they would come back with differences. to keep the og content... og content
@spark lance posting beta spoilers on YouTube is entirely okay
If more people had for instance rhythm owl hair, it would become less of a rare item in the game.
But like... imagine new people buying those ults/iaps. There’s millions of new downloads since android released along with new ios peeps. Also not everyone’s in a financial situation to buy an ult. They’re still special and useful to the person. 
@valid terrace not too sure if this is what youre referring to but the image floating around that showed the chinese shop selling the ultimate items is fake
@empty river thank god
If you do post beta on YouTube please be courteous and spoiler tag it with no spoilers in the thumbnail 
once again, when ult come back, they will look different from the original
jenova chen himself
Youtube beta spoilers can be avoided, this server is open to all and some wouldnt want to be spoiled.
Thou I dont think they should bring back pendants, those seem more personal to players who bought them.
I did not know that. I agree with you for the pendant part
Also: what do you mean value? It's not like you can sell them or anything. Showing off and being pompous about "you can't get this amazing item anymore" just bleeds toxicity. Why not want someone to have this beautiful item?
Feeling the need to say this . But thank you TGC for adding another join location in the cave of prophecies. Not sure if you sure if you saw my feedback on that specifically but thank you anyway :,)
my perspective: as long as people keep spending money on sky we can keep playing it. I would love to see past IAPs return (even being someone who has bought them in the past) because I want sky to keep going. And I love sharing ❤️
Feeling the need to say this . But thank you TGC for adding another join location in the cave of prophecies. Not sure if you sure if you saw my feedback on that specifically but thank you anyway :,)
@spice mason oooh they added a new spawn point?? i sent a feedback too :)
Join location in the cave?
Value. If many people had the item it would lose value. It wouldnt be special anymore. Its not about toxicity at all.
gen: you can send thankyous and positive feedback into #beta-feedback too, that channel isn’t just for critiques and stuff. Devs also appreciate to hear if something’s working well 
But what makes it special? The fact that only you have it?
Basically. Uhh. Before. You'd join a friend in the cave and be nowhere near them.
But now you can either spawn at the entrance or in the main cave,,, such a time saver and quality of life improvement I weep
As an android player who was in beta, there are a few ultimates I'm really sad about missing. You have to remember that a huge portion of the player base never had a chance to get them!
ooh thx
I have to say, the mask will be something I wear very sparingly
maybe also as a lightbulb cosplay
No, like i said its not for flaunting in the slightest, its kinda like oh Ive been playing for awhile.idk how else to explain it
I thought the Anubis mask was super cool but I don’t think I want to be a beacon constantly
anyone ever talk to the NPC in office after you purchase the cape. Office NPC has some wise words 
Pendants of seasons are special cause at least to me theyre a mark of nostalgia and how far you've come, and theyre not highly sought after items, except for the privilege they bring, after that season retires its just a nice keepsake, i dont think the pendants breed toxicity but the ultimates definitely do
I started playing Sky just before Season of Sanctuary and I miss having ultimate gifts that can be used as props in the environment (bonfire, umbrella, etc).
Is new update is not compatible with Android 10?
Also about this whole.. conversation about ultimates.. I'd like to quote beta-chan.
"Wait. You have the same cape as mine? No fair! I thought it was a special gift for me! .. I guess happiness is only real if it's shared."
I mean I’ve been playing for a long time too, but does that really matter in a game like sky? The game is supposed to be about altruism and inclusivity and me playing longer than another depends on a lot of factors
Is new update is not compatible with Android 10?
@desert trench works for me on android 10!
Value. If many people had the item it would lose value. It wouldnt be special anymore. Its not about toxicity at all.
Wanting to keep an item for yourself doesn't make it special. It is toxic and quite rude. Why not want to let someone else have the chance at getting it who wasn't able to play? Some people didn't start when the game came out and there are still people who can't play due to them having a device that isn't compatible for sky. You're saying you don't want them the chance at this item because you want to be selfish?
I understand that im sorry for sharing my opinion.
Don’t be sorry for sharing your opinion! It’s good to have dialogue like this
y’all imagine the crab known issue when the quests are on forest and one of them is knock over 5 crabs-

I think this is the exact reason why TGC aren't sure yet.. as to how exactly they want to bring back the ult gifts.
Another thing to consider: now with all the new friends we have here, they’re also experiencing new seasons along with us. and dang that anubis mask looks amazing. It’s a pretty cool ult, we’re gonna see tons of people with it, and eventually people will go into different groups: people who still wear it and people who don’t. It’s the same for any TS item and possible ult that comes back. In the end it’s all about style and personal preference.
I think what makes older/long time players cool... are all the memories and knowledge and friendships they gained thru playing this game. Have pride in that, your time spent in sky is special and it’s something far more unique than any cosmetic representation 
I’d love for people to get an opportunity they completely missed, but you...you can’t prevent the anger.
That’s the problem.
EXACTLY!! I CANT GET OVER IT qwq
Yeah it does seem like no matter what option tgc will take people will be mad
It's very upsetting to think people would get angry over somebody else getting something nice. You know? ^^"/
sadly, you cant make everyone happy
It takes some time to adjust to changes, but I hope eventually you come to a certain level of inner peace.
isn’t there this expression
I can’t remember it
Well I also think that when they came out with the lightseekers cape pin then the ts came...
potatoes gonna potate
The main original problem afaik was the marketing, because official (and ingame) sources did say the items would be exclusive. That makes these angry people feel like they were lied to
The Cape pins aren't meant to replace the actual capes though.
- most people (me) just didn’t know the game existed- i so wish i had joined earlier, i missed on sm

that one mistake in the essay lmao
Well tgc never said they’re going to stop traveling spirits, and the merchandise isn’t supposed to really have game changing features, not everyone can afford or is able to get the merch
Like someone said before, “It’s not the physical item, it’s the memories,” personally as someone who’s experienced the old seasons I want others to be able to have the physical item. The true exclusiveness is the memories 
Woah lol the crab call crash is hilarious...
Aside from the fact that it freezes your phone
The Crabs... FLY
So maybe it's best to keep ultimate gifts exclusive to the season while other cosmetics come with TS.
I do feel that. Wholeheartedly. I felt lied to, but its not like i can run a game company so you cant make everyone happy
TGC already has apologized a lot for that and tried to make amends. It’s also really down to the person and their financial decision making when deciding to buy a $10 USD ap pass, and/or spending a lot more on seasonal candles
@past abyss yes. I thought the exact same thing. let ppl get the items, not ults. People worked hard for those ults and if they came back for money, it may think that people oh! you bought the ult, ur just spending money
I can understand it... Do you think it makes a difference if the ults come back for $ instead of in game currency?
But some people never would have had the chance to get the ults. That's the problem.
New idea: rewards for fire trial solo: pick one ult.
Using the crab spell makes the crabs fly...
Then crash and freeze your phone
Office NPC on you wearing the TGC blue cape when you talk to them "Wait. You have the same cape as mine? No fair! I thought it was a special gift for me! .. I guess happiness is only real if it's shared." 
Android players exist. And we've only had the chance to get the enchantment and sanctuary ones. We're missing out on.. hell of a lot. It would be nice to have a chance is all I'm saying.
Tgc said that if ultimates came back it wouldn’t be for in game currency
So you would have to pay
YES office bot philosophy u___u
I hope you get rhythm items, but the ultimate rewards should be something sacred rhythm is most what ik that many want
My fav ult is the rhythm mask 🥺 I miss it
I legit cried when I first found out they said that. The dialogue changed to that right about when we were testing for the 1 year anniversary party (used to jst repeat the pre-purchase of the cape dialogue).
That dialogue would show up if you owned the beta cape
Suddenly ult gift lost all meaning when is purchaseable by real money
I hope the rhythm hair is under 10 dollars and going to charity, maybe I can get it then 
i agree @wicked lance and @placid linden i didnt know howto put it into words
I see ultimate gifts as loyalty tokens because you bought the adventure pass and it acts a symbol of pride to your dedication to the game. People who have been around since the first seasons or even beta are thus proudly wearing their tokens which show others how proud they are for playing Sky. 
Isn’t the ult gift already only purchasable with real money
"Something sacred" rubs me the wrong way just a bit. Considering what these items are. I would hate If people didn't get the chance to get.. say. The manta cape.
I see ultimate gifts as loyalty tokens ... which show others how proud they are for playing Sky.
@placid linden
exactly
I wouldn't be surprised if they don't bring them back though. If you look at other multiplayer games, there are often events that don't come back or the items are sold at very high prices. Even certain "limited edition" items in any fandom don't come back.
(As much as it hurts my soul knowing that I can't get the Gratitude mask)
The one in the office was wearing a back cape, it's differ from the beta one
so if ultimate gifts do return, would the only /exclusive/ items be the seasonal pendants? 
wait
As Ktjin once said the word ultimate doesn’t mean it’s supposed to be something grand or exclusive it’s just the last thing in a season
And later musicians too, I like that they made ultimate instruments simple and easy to miss but the handpan is more useful that i thought it would be
Yes I know that, I’m saying that the npc would say that “i thought it was a special gift for me” if you owned the beta cape
And if you didn’t they would brag about you not having it
But you’re ‘proud’ for playing sky but like... where is this pride rooted in and also why is it important to keep others from having the same stuff as you? Especially since some people discovered sky later, or simply use a different device, or are on switch. Why aren’t other skykids ‘worthy’ enough to experience the same joy and cosmetic fun as longer time players? Especially if they’re willing to pay real cash and help support TGC and keep this game F2P for everyone
Just some stuff and questions to mull over
I’m a devil’s advocate regarding this debate
It's also... Not a lot of work to get the seasonal candles for the ults, it just means you had to play for a few minutes most days during the season 🤷 Doing full candle runs is a huge commitment, but the dailies aren't
So , bring back the ult reward is ok, but please don't make it return as the original one.
wdym key
Im proud of myself for coming this far, and some people think you need the cosmetics to prove it, but do you really have to prove to anyone but yourself that you've been here this long
I'll say it again: if you're thinking of items you have in Sky as "exclusive," and feeling jealous about anyone else getting access to it in a way other than how you got it... take a step back and ask yourself why you want others not to have it.
aight ima just leave now I honestly dont feel like debating anymore
Honestly I have a feeling ultimates wouldn't become.. hugely widespread. Either. Like.. If they all came back the only ones I'd buy are the earrings and jelly umbrella.
Why not same as 'original' one if you're paying real money too?
You mean like changing colours? @wicked lance
It is a bit strange to me that they say “it’s going to be different” is it really the same UG if they say it’s going to appear different
I mean maybe they can change the color or something?
the exclusive thing for playing so long is the memories with friends that new players weren't there to experience. certainly can't recreate trying to push the questgiver through the portal with tables while playing floor is lava on the day that the season was that broken with some of my friends 
i love the campfire and the ultimate umbrella, if others suddenly had the opportunity to get it...i simply would not care. Why should i be against someone getting an item i have by supporting the game?
Personally I'd love it if more people had the campfire. It's really useful.
as holder of many "exclusive" items in Sky, I look forward to TGC earning more money by selling older things. they deserve the success, and hopefully even some "easy" revenue that doesn't require extensive testing and feedback. It's a thing they made. They should be allowed to sell it.
I always said there are so many games that have exclusives and when they're gone, they're gone. It's not a big deal. There will be new ones.
I do wish some of the past ultimate seasonal rewards weren't so practical, like the umbrella and the bonfire, because they do give you a slight advantage to other players. But when it comes to plain cosmetics, it shouldn't be such a huge thing if you miss it.
I even missed the bonfire in beta, joined in the middle of that season 
I think of it as I enjoy this ultimate gift and I want others to enjoy it as well.
Please tell me where is the spirit of fire?
I don’t think it makes sense to bring ults back with in-game currency, but if you’re paying money to support the game, why not? 
skybot where is the fire prophet
windy what are you doing lol
It's a shame there's this much tension over ingame items ^^"/
counting down so my patience rises again
Is there no way to get through the second level of fire alone? The candles seem too far apart
Skybot is smart, skybot knows when you truly don't know about the 4th spirit and will respond then.
Hey there @carmine thorn, the Prophet of Fire aka Lion Mask spirit is currently not available in-game to relive, please stay patient and wait for the updates on this issue in #beta-known-issues & #beta-announcements 
Skybean does indeed . ... elude us all.
I love how mysterious skybot is. I get cold pinged on occasion to ask how my day was 🤣
Skybot is a troll 😌
@carmine thorn it's hard but doable, I had to run/hop between candles and then quickly tap the light button
I wrote trolling into Skybot because as moderator I'm probably not supposed to be trolling... much
living through your creation i see
This is why we love Skybean
Seasonal candle locations for today?
@spark lance Run and keep trying. Sometimes it helps to hug the walls or put away your candle.
skykids are fiercely protective of skybean 
also fiercely obsessed with pants
skybot’s cold pings always make me laugh tho, they’re so random
@minor robin In regards to ultimate gifts; I guess I forgot to specify; you're proud of having been around for so long and to still be playing. It's not uncommon for people to play different games and change games frequently. It's a symbol of dedication to the game and support since an earlier period in time, where it might not have been so mainstream or popular. I don't think it has anything to do about some players being worth more than others, it's just an extension of past experiences and memories. I can't complain that I don't have the umbrella or the bonfire if I didn't play those seasons or wasn't even aware of Sky's existence. As much as I want to have those items, I also have to be true and respectful towards the playerbase that's helped me notice this game.
Beta lurkers, confess your presences.
oh i have been discovered
the lurkers have been perceived 👁️👁️
But Android players don't even have the chance to get that past ult rewards. So, in my opinion, they should return as IAP 1 time.
After this time, if you miss it you miss it. Because you're not playing when you can, not because the game not available
I was able to make crab call and didn’t crash
runs back to #general-sky-discussion
What's the fluffy white cape called? it sort of looks like wool and has layers plus a bit of orange/red on top. i don't think i've seen it anywhere yet
Gratitude white cape ! from the wasteland garuda mask spirit
Thats the gratitude cape from the dismiss spirit
That's an old season cosmetic, gratitude?
I was able to make crab call and didn’t crash
@stone marsh you have to do it near a crab for it to crash
But Android players don't even have the chance to get that past ult rewards. So, in my opinion, they should return as IAP 1 time.
@tight bloom If that happens, there will be a precedent and then people will be even angrier. It will become a negative loop.
@velvet canyon It's from gratitude. It used to be an IAP.
thanks! huh, that skykid said they had only been playing for a day
its both a cosmetic from season of gratitude and part of a pack with other gratitude cosmetics in the shop during season of rhythm
@placid linden I understand that pride too, I feel the same way it I express this gratitude and pride thru my own personal conduct and how I treat others. I value my friendships a lot, and I take moths on fun adventures and let them explore too. I don't understand the need to have this expressed thru an ult/pendant/cosmetic.
In fact I have a lot of fun dressing up as a white caped moth with no back item and no mask.
I have nothing to prove and my skills/gameplay/cheerful emotes show who I am as a person to randos and friends alike
Also there are a lot of older players here who also support ults coming back.. Sooo. Idk lol depends who u want to side with here.
Nope lol, yoga had the red one 
sunfrost thats a hacker, the gratitude white cape is a current indicator of them, for some reason, doesnt mean theyre all hackers thou
I think when switch release drops they should return as a one time event for those who couldn't play since the beginning. As someone who played a different game for a long time that underwent a plethora of changes, I have items no longer attainable due to the sheer difficulty and grind to get that item and felt bad of newer players who couldn't get it. I personally don't see the "special" portion of having an item that no one else had the chance to get, just because they didn't know of the game or couldn't play during that time. 
@tight bloom If that happens, there will be a precedent and then people will be even angrier. It will become a negative loop.
@placid linden
I think if they miss their chance to buy that ultimate as IAP on a given time period, they shouldnt be angry. Because they have the chance. They're just not palying it, not because the game is unavailable.
I don’t think that’s very fair though, there’s always going to be people who aren’t able to play or don’t know about the games existence, that doesn’t mean they are less deserving
darn, they were really nice too, sad to know they are a hacker :(
see if I knew sky existed back when it was light awaits I would absolutely have been there 
which is why I think ultimate gifts after Android release shouldn't come back.
Someone had a good idea about bringing ults back from a while ago, once you cleared the trees of all the spirits from that season from traveling spirits, you could be eligible for the ulimate in some way, maybe it would appear in the iaps?
you're proud of having been around for so long and to still be playing.
Players who were not able to pay for ap during gratitude/lightseekers shouldn't be proud ?
What about the inevitable new waves of players coming from other platforms, after switch theyre going to start working on the next platform
There are going to be switch version players as well, and even pc later on... It's quite unfair for them to not give them a chance too, no?
I'm sooo hype for switch release. catch me with 7 moths in tow 
Also exactly! What about the people who have been playing from day one that for one reason or another couldn’t get the ultimate gift
Would the shepherd system in beta be brought over to live? I kinda wish once you are a shepherd, players can hold your hand without needing to friend you. ( Or there could be a cosmetic that allows veteran players to help out moths)
I would not like that
Isnt switch on a different server cause theres no cross platform playing right now?
I got it. Anniversary event for the Ults if you completed at least 3 TS of that season to buy the Ult in the office IAP shop.
You can’t control being a shepherd and if someone randomly grabbed me I’d be upset
Switch isn’t even out yet
Honestly I think that’s how UG should work if they’re brought back, it also eases the anger of those who don’t want them back by having them work for it.
They’re aiming for crossplay between all platforms
the shepherd system has been in beta for like a year now and theres no ETA for when it will be in live afaik
Traveling spirits are more work than the actual season, so it would be fair enough to tie it to them
Ts is a sprint race, seasons are endurance, ts is also endurance but we have 1 week of rest so
I already can’t say no to moths
if the shepherd system is brought over to live I’ll be absolutely swamped 
pretty sure it won't go live any time soon because some people were treating it like a badge of honor (cough like the ultimate gift conversation right now) and that kinda goes against the altruism message. they already took away the ability for anyone else to see that you're a shepherd because of that
The shepherd system seems to be meant for shepherds to be able to find moths if they want to help them. Moths can't even see the shepherd symbol on anyone anymore, since that caused a lot of moths to follow those players around when they didn't want them to. Its a choice to help someone out, sometimes players don't feel like ubering.
What If IAP for ult gifts happen exclusively when that season would have happened.? Like.. in the winter you can buy the rhythm ults .. etc
Gen I like that idea!
Which is why I said it could be an item, just to make it a little easier for people who do want to help out.
oooh i like the idea of having the ults return during the anniversary of the season
maybe if this was incorporated with must have at least three ts from the season it would be fair??
ello, i wanna ask if anyone is experiencing issues when entering sanctuary? is it a known issue by now?
No there is no way, I died at least 20 times
I still think it's weird that new players expect old items to be made available. It really isn't a thing in other games. But if TGC wants to do that and are able to make it happen somehow, that's fine.
Rune, what issues? There's nothing in known issues about sanctuary so feel free to ask
do they have to be completed TS? cuz I sure as heck did not bother grinding for TS because I didn't like all of the cosmetics they brought
personally I think it would be fine so as long as they had the base emote 
i went there just now with some friends, upon entering we couldn't see each other.
i'm gonna reproduce it so i can report.
will also post a screenshot because i thought it was a somewhat cute, but scary bug.
maybe make the ult items really expensive so those who have bought AP wouldn't be so mad? Idk, I think bringing it back would cause lots of drama
@tight bloom I don't want to be the devil's advocate however, if they bring back ultimates as IAP, until which season? For how long? How much would they cost? Why ever remove them from the shop? Just leave them there forever. I don't want this obviously because it would mean the end of Adventure Pass since ultimate gifts would be available to everyone. It would eventually kill the game because there would be a lot of ''pay to get cosmetics'' and lesser consistent candle runners grinding during Seasons.
See, the thing with me is, I really don't care if I am able to get the AP or any IAP's because that's not what matters to me. Do I have the Founder's cape in Live? Yes. Did I get it only for the cape so I could brag? No. Some people don't have the money at all, and some don't want to spend money on a game, and that's ok. It shouldn't be about what cosmetics you have. It should be about the fun of playing with new and old friends alike, and just having a good time, shouldn't it be?
In santuary me and friend cant meet .. Well we can but we are invisible to eachother .. They can see my honk and that is it 😦
Ohhh i am such a hoarder, I get everything from the ts cause even if i dont like it, undoubtedly in a few weeks ill see it in the closet and be like "wait this combination slaps" and wear is forever until i get tired of it
I used to be like that but then it required me to CR every day for the two weeks between TS. (I don't have time for them anymore 😦 )
Yo is fire boi out now?
well good news for me is eventually I'll be caught up on TS
I only missed 3 seasons
I don't think people will be angrier if there's a precedent, maybe the anger will go to "veterans" that wanted exclusivity, I don't think it fits the ideals of sky actually to want to keep things exclusive just because of "proud" and to "show something" to others, tgc have the final word tho
atipleb actually I have seen some games that lately bringed back some items from past seasons like PUBG mobile, but yeah it depends in wich item
My idea stems from.. preventing oversaturation of the ults people fear so much. But also guaranteeing that even newer players from newer platforms will get a chance at some point.
My friend gets iaps like the lantern and founders cape cause she likes ubering and helping people, got the pink cape in two weeks cause people were so grateful, real live shepard 
Keep the game roling , dont bring back ultimates .. Simple.. Deal with not having them .. Be happy with what you got and what you will have...goodnight everyone 😘🤍😘
and i mean, if you genuinely want exclusivity (even though that’s a weird concept to hold in a game rooted in altruism) there’s always the seasonal pendants?
It's impossible to finish the fire trial now

I need someone to help me for the light
cuz lots of players want the rhythm owl hair so bad and keep asking for ults to comeback
It's possible. Just very difficult to do alone
A thing to remember : it's not good to generalize older players. There are some who are all for the return of Ults. I know a few who have been playing sky since pre release beta who want ults to come back. Some older players don't want ults to come back. It's not fair to generalize these players into all one group. 
It comes down to: who u agree with and more importantly your own opinion. You matter just as much as a vet
I really support the idea of everyone can get everything, as long as you put in some effort
Oh, I got through the water trial somehow! But then I decided to do fire trial and ended up in white screen death loop. So yeah, I'm not much of a fan of these trials right now. 
Some android people buy tons of white candles for TS, maybe spend even more than a vet who paid $10 for ap. They are equal
There's a skip in the Trial of Water which can save you some time, but it requires speed, timing and precision
I am someone in the middle of this argument. I missed 3 seasons and I have experienced 3.5 seasons (prophecy being the 0.5 because beta testing). I still think it's really weird to want exclusivity of old stuff. if someone gets thr rhythm mask I was around for I wouldn't be upset.
and omg wyiott I definitely drop a lot of money on candles packs but more because I wanna upgrade friend trees
(I have spent probably close to $500 in sky since I started in February. and lemme tell ya it was EXTRA WORK to spend money on a borrowed device that wasn't mine)
Ok, so the visual change in water trial is amazing, but I got into death loop even with water, so imma report it now
I think my favourite trial is water now. The visuals really had a huge impact.
Kai, that’s legendary 
and i agree, the water trial looks wonderful now! I have to make lunch tho, so take care everyone

I'm lucky to get anything IAP (I won't explain cause personal but I will say money is tough rn for my family), and I cherish all of it because I know there are people out there who can't get the things they want, or more importantly need. That's why, when I tell my friends about the game, I always preach that you do not have to buy anything and that they shouldn't feel any less than someone who has them. It aint about the money or the emotes or the cosmetics.
I'm sure they'll rework Earth and Air for the next updates. The first half of Fire is also a lot better than the buildings blocks from before.
Has there been any mention yet if these trials are gonna be a once a week (or every two week) thing or we get them all at once? Same with the spirits? The last few have been all at once but they mentioned that might not always be the case.
I'm gonna go back through my paypal and find out actually how much I've spent now because I've just been estimating based on my spending habits XD I can tell you right off the bat I dropped $150 on those STAR pins soon as they hit. I have a sky addiction (and I justify it by saying my money is helping sky keep existing)
Does the death loop only happen when youre with a friend or does it happen with solo too? I haven’t had it until I went with a friend today.
Ok ty!
So i was thinking, this is the avatar season...al 4 elements here 
water looks like its almost ready for live, while the others seem to still need polish. so i'm guessing the trials will be weekly or something along those lines, which gives the devs more time for polish
🌎
💨 I'm leaving to do the trial of earth
Would you guys say the Trials are harder than Eden? 
Thats what I figured too Aeras... wonder bout the spirits. Maybe thats why we havent gotten fire. They dont need to test that right away
was peaceful, until the fire prophet played hide & seek a bit too well 
The last few were all at once cause they were a new feature all together for sky and needed to be tested extensively for feedback and bugs before everyone gets worried about and unfinished product in live, itll probably be spaced out more, for suspense since the fire trial says "embark on the last trial"
Wouldnt be as good if it were all at once
I'd even say that the trials will have more than a week between each
100% speculation of course
||Trial ubers
i guess i know what i wanna be when im an experienced veteran
||
maybe we get a spirt one week and the same trial the next
That'll give live a good month before they start screaming about the fire trial's difficulty
gooood afternoon (or good timezone) fellow testers!!!!!
Maybe they'll hold off fire spirit for a few weeks to mimic beta 
He’s playing hide n seek and from the pants hungry sky kids 
I wonder if skybot can tell you where the 4th spirit is...
Hey there @carmine thorn, the Prophet of Fire aka Lion Mask spirit is currently not available in-game to relive, please stay patient and wait for the updates on this issue in #beta-known-issues & #beta-announcements 
4th spirit
vs fourth spirit
edit 
Anybody: says the word 4th spirit, fire spirit, lion spirit and missing
skybot:
i have been awakened
Hey there @eager ferry, the Prophet of Fire aka Lion Mask spirit is currently not available in-game to relive, please stay patient and wait for the updates on this issue in #beta-known-issues & #beta-announcements 
you gotta have where or missing too windy i think
I wonder how they're gonna crop fire spirit for the constellation, he looks huge in the teaser art 
The Lion spirit is my favourite anyways , no matter how hidden it remains
fire spirit is a big boye
tWICE IN A ROW??
Hey there @eager ferry, the Prophet of Fire aka Lion Mask spirit is currently not available in-game to relive, please stay patient and wait for the updates on this issue in #beta-known-issues & #beta-announcements 
Skybean you’ve done your job... go sneep snorp 

C H O N K Y
He's becoming aware, somebody stop him 
!sneep 
I wonder how they're gonna crop fire spirit for the constellation, he looks huge in the teaser art
@oak berry He's gonna be like when you relive polite stance as a chibi and you can only see his toes cause of the camera spasming
Kom skybean's been trolling us since day one 
fire trial currently seems...quite infuriating as a solo experience
I think I need a tutorial for the new water trial there’s just that one point I can’t reach lmao
Koiwai, look around for solid (non lantern or floaty) areas that dont get covered by the water, those will help,
I'm gonna do fire trial solo after I do it with a friend, testing my patience and bravery
just for reference, has anyone actually passed fire solo in the latest build?
I did well before the update, after the update tho there’s that one floating ice I can’t reach coz I’m so smolll
I'm gonna do fire trial solo after I do it with a friend, testing my patience and bravery
That's what I did not too long ago. How did it go you ask?
... no.
Spearmonkey, I was able to complete it. Here's how it went down.
1st area: breeze, about 5mins
2nd area: argh fgnenfjehfn 45mins of frustration
3rd area: meet the inner darkness of one's self... Time taken, I'd rather not disclose.
I'm not giving up on it once I go in either, after I sit at that circle theres no goin back
if the third area's even more challenging than the second one, i might need to leave the area before my ipad goes through a window at this rate
Funny thing is that it took me longer to do the 2nd area while the 3rd was just a few mins longer than 1st.
Oh i gave up in the earth trial cause they took out the cheat path
still need to find out how to do it correctly
Y'all are so brave. I envy. 
earth trial still has a cheese path, there's too many possibilities with the map's design
notice how some of the block walls float up as you approach them? you can jump on top of the first ones you see, then you get easy access on top of the walls when they're high enough
I don’t think it’s really a bad thing if there is a cheese path, like chibi go oob all the time to cheese CR.
Last night my friend gave up at the earth trial and grabbed my hand, so I just zoned out and made it across somehow
1 am somehow brings out a whole other me 
i did fire solo and i like that its not easy. but it wasnt enjoyable for the kind of experience im used to in sky. i like the jumping/climbing part but its so short.
I am not sleeping its 11 and I'm in the middle of online school
sneep @ before midnight
also ayy pst gang
I am not sleeping its 11 and I'm in the middle of online school
Don't worry buddy. me too.
Anyone else's resize potions not seeming to work? I’ve used two and haven’t seen any change in height or my character doing the cheer or shiver emotes
Dw I'm sleeping at the proper time today
Emery, close the game and come back, you need to reload to see the difference
Trial of Earth hardcore challenge: Finish the last part then turn around and do it the other way.
I just entered the water trial for the atomosphere and WHOA! 
OVERHAUL!
I need to sneep at proper time tonight also, I was up until 430am learning fire trial is secretly controlling rage and not courage. 
master your inner flame
play the fire trial while watching kung fu panda, maybe itll give some advice

is that advice: how to avoid death loop? 
I just saw someone make like a bazillion store purchases and he or she refused to light my candle
(to report ‘em)
As I am scurrying around looking at the new sights, I just had a thought. You can still use expressions, right? That means you can piggyback with others in the trials in the trials, right? (I have no friends so I can't see for myself
) So I was thinking...
Everyone totems a tall person in water trial. Everyone cheeses it because only one person is doing the work and that person is tall so they have it easy. 
you can hold hands too and the friend does all the work. also rocket worked before if you were really good at landing precisely. idk if it still does
I use piggyback jump for Earth trial
I can't wait to see a huge piggy tower rushing through the water trial 
you can in fact make an 8 person tall piggyback stack and have your entire server just be a single totem pole if you coordinate it properly (you can also ride ||oreo|| with an 8 person totem pole)
Ooh water trial looks so good!
It's also harder now which is cool
Can't wait for the other trials updates!
The ice platforms move 
I can't wait to see a huge piggy tower rushing through the water trial
I'm sure that's what we'll do when it goes live. We've done it multiple times in Eden. Can't say we made it out unscathed though.
why isn't 8 person piggyback totem thing not in the sticker lol 😂
Are people actually managing to get to the end of fire trial without getting eternal white screen on the way?
If so I may try again 🙈
The ice platforms move
i miss the ikea mattress platfrom
honestly not enough people have tried it I think. I have an awesome pic of 8 chibi moths stacked on top of eachother (back in my beta moth days when the only cosmetic I had was chibi mask and they all decided to match me because ym friends are hilarious)
Evinsky, nope. I got it after the corridor that must not be named. I found going down and a little to the left while stuck on white screen will get you out of it
the corridor that must not be named?
Wait, you can actually move around while in white death strangle ?
As a fellow chibi, it's very scary when the water goes above your waist. And now I'm soaking wet. 
Yes, I managed to skip out of it, but died again.
Any new info about fire boi?
Oh ;-;
Ahahaha I think the corridor that must not be named is an accurate description XD
Yes, dragon, the corridor where the two dust bunnies make the run a living hell
Fire boi is so shy
Also if u wanna know the info just use the term prophecy of fire so skybot will come and bean u
How get beta sky?
I'm up for the challenge
It's too late now you gotta wait for the next time💙 I wish you best of luck when that time comes 💫
I really hope that gets fixed
@tiny solar it's not possible at the moment as beta is currently closed, check out #beta-faq it should cover all the info you need
Water trial went ok for me after I took some resize potions, that floaty thing had waters just too deep and ground just too far for a near chibi sized child
was testing warp spell with friends but we all got dumb we already have warp() I don't even know if the spell worked or nah 
I was in wasteland and heard crabs tipping, so I turn my camera AND THEYRE FALLING FROM THE SKY 
they are WHAT
IT’S raining KRABS
I wish I caught a video, its great
hallelujah it’s raining crebs, hallelujah 
my friend just said that 
Pretty sure it's because of the people in the office shooting them from the cannon 
btw a reminder tip for people who are crashing in wasteland due to deep calls: grab a big group of friends, maybe even 8 and if everyone behaves and doesn’t deepcall, you guys can get the seasonal wax and do all the quests without worrying about a random person crashing you 
Groups of 4+ definitely decrease the chance of server merges and gets you fresher empty maps 
Welcome to Android 11's issue of crash roulette. Join my pain and try to get your seasonal wax before the game locks up.

imagine...having friends in beta....

#beta-looking-for-group if peeps can come together for 8 person elevator, wasteland party with less crashes would definitely appeal to peeps 
imagine having burger king chicken fries
@serene fern I can be your friend. Allllllll the friends. Mwah ha ha ha ha.
I'm heading to shipwreck to test crab spell and see crabs fall from the sky, hopefully no one is there
you don't crash at shipwreck dw
@oak berry if Geri Halliwell is there say hi 😂
no worries I nyoomed to the wasteland at once it resets
speedyspeedy that is neaty
but you could try to recreate bouncy crabs
is the fire/last/pants season spirit show up now ?
nah he's still hiding
How dost one explain UG mask out of context to someone who wants to know what it is but in the least spoilery way
tis a mask
"dog is god backwards" ultimate mask
New rule if you're gonna flip crabs to be considerate of others in the instance. Spam honk for a good 30 seconds then do it. Let's them know you're about to do it?
it is like the gartitude deer mask but a different animal and makes u look like a god and u will be shiny bling bling bling 
wait so like the crab pin arrived to peeps who bought it? mk bc im waiting for my box to come and its taking literally forever
New rule if you're gonna flip crabs to be considerate of others in the instance. Spam honk for a good 30 seconds then do it. Let's them know you're about to do it?
that's really nice but i would probably fly to them instead thinking they're in need
just gotta sacrifice yourself to crabs in order to avoid ppl crashing 
“a very cool, somewhat godly-looking mask that tops off the general aesthetic of the season”
How’s that?
Is it a Hacker when I see someone with the deer mask and pants from the season?
oki thx
i once again suggest "dog is god backwards" ultimate mask
Hey guys anyone else having issue with not being able to tp to friends? Like it shows to them that you are offline but you are online
I’m not sure if it’s linked, but this issue has been happening to me since this morning... in live...
the pins haven't arrived yet but we are beta testing the STAR pin features via spells in game. I didn't look to see if the podium where you get those spells is still there today 
yea my orderstill says unfulfilled
it is still there
prairie spell only tp me and dropped my friend 
you ever want to make a meme about yourself resisting the temptation to see what the mask looks like on you by intentionally breaking the vow to not do that for a few seconds to make a self-commentary
oh, i dont have beta
ye I’m a bit overly hyped
I’m going to do that
I HAVE THE PASS YES
i bought preorder too.
can i get some help please? i’m trying to download the update but it’s not downloading at all
i’m using cellular data , i have enough
also testflight is allowed to use it
idk if cell data can support sky as a download, its a lot
I'll get it [pre-order pass] when October starts. Ehhh spending $30/40 on a mobile game won't look good on me to my parents. Even though it's my money and I'll spend it the way I want.
The pre order pass is only 10 pounds for me 👀
The pre order pass is only 10 pounds for me 👀
Summer Lights was pretty hefty. A good $20. But it's worth it. Because I play in the da-a-ark!
Ahh you mean 40 dollars total
30 or 40, since I might get a pass for my sister and someone else. Maybe.
someone had completed the new trial of fire all the way alone? 
I tried doing it alone but a random player wanted me to hold their hand
I heard a handful did, I know velo did
I did it solo before this last update. but I've been told it would be bad if I went in fire trial this update because death loop got really bad
Cant wait to try these trials out for myself, I have years of roblox parkour behind me so the air and earth should be TOO hard, yes I know “roblox parkour” isn’t close to what sky parkour is like but it’s SOMETHING
I used to waste many hours on roblox 😔
i did
You've been training up to this point
I have dont do it please don’t try the fire trial alone did I mention not to try the fire trial alone? Please don’t do it. dont do it it’s possible but I’ve lost all my brain cells doing it
after the first door transition it became kinda absurd imo
do it for the lulz
Frick it I’m gonna do it alone
Edit: LETS DO THIS
I’ve finished the trial alone, it was painful to say the least, please get a friend 
someone had completed the new trial of fire all the way alone? :aShadowRolllll:
@stark sundial I've done it
I will say that the thing that put me down the most is a white transition for death in such a dark environment... like OMG ill put it in feedback for sure
The krill had gone in the office? 
no, he's still there, the plant is glitched iirc
The krill has been sealed away once again. Ha. That's what it gets for eating 2 of my winged light. 
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Woah there’s white candles in the fire trial room 👀👀
only 2? 
When is the new update gonna come
When It's Ready™️
there was an update yesterday. devs are working hard but we have no idea on a timeline for another update 
only 2?
Oi. These things are my precious.shoosh shoosh
he's just chilling under there #beta-screenshots-videos message
I was making fun of the fact that Krills will eat like 6 of them at once sometimes. like dang that krill be slackin
Whoa. The water trial is much harder now.
Is that so? I actually found it to be eaiser.
Whoa. The water trial is much harder now.
@spark lance Number one tip: take off the chibi mask (you can go to the Homescreen to do this, then come back without penalty)
I don't have chibi in beta.
It's hard if you are small even without chibi mask.
I did it with chibi mask just fine! but also taking off chibi doesn't help much because my skykid is like shortest non chibi height 😐
What about chibi in fire trial?
yeah water trial keep being the most fun one even with chibi
Steph you still die a lot as chibi there
at least before this update. haven't been in today
Strange. I found it a LOT less forgiving with the chibi mask: I can go waist-deep at normal height, but as a chibi ankle-deep kills me.
Steph you still die a lot as chibi there
at least before this update. haven't been in today
@random gull cuz I remember the last time I went before this update with chibi it was pretty good tbh
anyone else feel like fire trial is literally impossible now
edit: I just got to the first spooky clouds after the first portal. been trying to get past it for an hour
4 minutes 33 seconds for me running through water trial
I spent like 30 minutes dying in Fire Trial stage 2 trying to solo it before giving up. Gonna go with a friend later 
the first iteration of fire trial chibi saved me. second iteration it was like "I don't care how tall you are, die skychild!"
oh I found out that in the trial of fire you can kinda evade the smoke thing while going through candles, that's how I'm doing it rn, although I get infinite white screen :(
I spent like 30 minutes dying in stage 2 trying to solo it before giving up. Gonna go with a friend later
@minor robin SAME HAHAH I’m going with frens cuz it was impossible
I went chest deep as chibi once and was fine?? I've never really known the water trial being eaiser as a not chibi becuase haha no I'm not taking that thing off of my face again. 
I would probably have a better time without it though, since I'm tall without my mask.
guess i'll have to try later with a friend too. bummer.
I found someone in the fire trial and we proceeded quite well together, but eventually I still ended up in death loop.
I'm gonna go pay a visit to feedback. I don't think it should be impossible if you're going solo
Does anyone know where warp is moved to in the beta friendship tree?
I like the new aspect tho it’s very nice...like a temple of Fire
I am not a beta tester but I saw YT video on 4 trials and I love such challenge. My question is, is this just for one time (to recover the area) or you can take the trial multiple times to get that WL?
Okay. I did water again. I think I went a wonky way, but I managed.
I am not a beta tester but I saw YT video on 4 trials and I love such challenge. My question is, is this just for one time (or recover the area) or you can take the trial multiple times to get that WL?
@spark lance u can do the trials many times like one u go back from either the wl it’s going to be there so u can do it many times
When you lose the winged light from. Krilling, crabs, rainfall or eden, you can redo the trial and grab it's winged light again. Nothing in beta is concrete though and that might change when it hits live
I went chest deep as chibi once and was fine?? I've never really known the water trial being eaiser as a not chibi becuase haha no I'm not taking that thing off of my face again.
I would probably have a better time without it though, since I'm tall without my mask.
@dapper ginkgo I can actually swim as a chibi sometimes, as long as the water's receding. It's when the water goes up that things get hairy, and that's a problem on some of the peaks that aren't supposed to be 100% out of the water.
(Being able to swim as a chibi is not as much of an advantage as it seems: it kills your forward momentum, and so when the water rises next you're not where you need to be, so you die anyway).
Hope it comes to live version I love that fire challenge. Good luck beta tester 👋🎈🥰
Personally, how the trials are turning out to be, I won't be doing the trials just for the winged light.
I doubt I will be doing them at all.
I still think once you've done the trials the next time you need to collect that winged light it should just be chilling in each cave shrine where you go to teleport to the trials without having to redo the trials.
Same I’ll do it just cuz I’m bored hahah
Personally, how the trials are turning out to be, I won't be doing the trials just for the winged light.
@carmine thorn Agreed. I'll do them once for the season, but I don't intend to go back.
Does anyone have a screenshot of the cosmetics from this season yet?
check on youtube bruv
You can browse the #beta-screenshots-videos for photos and even videos.
I meant like a screenshot of all of them together + UG, i'll check YT tho
Please keep in mind cosmetics, trials, winged light, and pretty much anything in beta can change drastically or even slightly before it goes live. Nothing is what it seems in beta... Though I wish the crab crash stayed for live at least for one day
it's already changed drastically from day one in beta 
@strong pine #beta-screenshots-videos message and as other ppl have said, it might change a lot before it hits live.
Thanks!
@strong pine one spirit is still not in beta, so there is not preview available for it yet
The fire spirit, i'm guessing
and cost trees shuffle around and prices can change even more. We have no clue what’s gonna need AP and what isn’t
(except for ultimates tho. loool)
I'll try and join the next beta invite wave if i can to see for myself
still not have the android app :(
see spirits being missing for almost 2 weeks 🌝
Mmmm a thing to note: beta isn’t exactly for early access and previews, it’s for testing, bug hunting and feedback. There is a limited amount of slots available. If you are willing to help out for beta, hope to see you next wave! 
(If anyone could give just one more beta invite for me, that would be appreciated)
But yea, I can see that. I wanted to come to beta to be helpful
Yes i know lol, i'd love to help out next time around
cool cool, see you next wave 🌊
I just hope there will be a couple more before the season begins
Not likely, beta waves are a lot of work for Ktjn and stir up some chaos 
When is the season planned to begin?
and cost trees shuffle around and prices can change even more. We have no clue what’s gonna need AP and what isn’t
(except for ultimates tho. loool)
@minor robin didn't Rhythm get an ultimate switch mid testing season?
they will. before next season in beta that is
Yeah, good example is fire trial. It has undergone many changes since the season in beta started and will still change before hitting live. Same with water trial. Looks so fleshed out and...
now
the foldable piano used to be the ultimate reward 😔
I just want to be part of something for once...
@random gull I meant that ultimates always need AP, regardless of what kind of item they are 
I just want to be part of something for once...
In due time.
Its my first seaosn with season pass so i am kinda excited !!! I mred the lion mask the most❤️
hey guys, i was in beta last season and i keep getting updates; how do i remove the updates role?
The season is PROBABLY a few days after the ts (maybe even the same week 👀)
But all we know is October
Go to #beta-faq
Ok, now I;m just sounding stupid
Listen, I'm just trying to know what its like to help...
MAN I completed the fire trial! Sadly I couldn’t do it on my own cuz I wasn’t expecting it to have a maze lmaooooo. And I experienced the immortal bug too.
Edit: PLEASE BRING A FRIEND WITH YOU ON THE TRIAL
now that you know you want to test beta, the next step is just to wait, theres nothing else you can do for now
I’m definitely getting an Uber for some of the trials when they come to live (I’m sadly not beta)
I know.
it'll com ebefore I knot it. This time I'll be ready
does anyone have a pic of ult and forest hair for season🥺🥺🥺
If you play sky without sound, fly over the graveyard in gw and suddenly a krill kisses you

@mystic umbra #beta-screenshots-videos message
Luckily, some of my friends are beta. So when the season begins, I'll have allllllllll the knowledge
🧠 
A blessing

The fire trial looks much better with the rocky environment 👀👀👀
It's like a cave! Also, the misleading candles are a pain XD but I enjoyed it nonetheless
whats wrong with water trial the water isnt going down
If you play sky without sound, fly over the graveyard in gw and suddenly a krill kisses you
As a partially deaf person I feel this
Is the 4th spirit still missing?
Hey there @cinder rose, the Prophet of Fire aka Lion Mask spirit is currently not available in-game to relive, please stay patient and wait for the updates on this issue in #beta-known-issues & #beta-announcements 
yea lol
my game crashes around crabs... does anyone get this too??...
#beta-known-issues Sofi
it's a little outdated now that we know it's not the spell causing the crashes, it's once the crabs attempt ascending into orbit
@carmine thorn the channel says "Using the Crab Call spell will crash the game" ... but I didn't used the call... my game crashes if I am nearby crabs... 😦
It could be someone else using the spell.
note to self dont go to wasteland now
the crash happens to anyone nearby, wether you called or not
you can go to wasteland... in a big group if everyone agrees not to use crabcall spell or deepcall 
Oh okay... I guess then maybe is someone else making the call... :/
I saw some people wearing the ultimate reward already... even a few days ago... WAAAY too early... do you think this person was cheating?... or how can I also get the ultimate reward so fast??...
!reportplayer they modified the game files, AKA hacking, please report any you come across in the future by following the steps in the helpshift article
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
I saw some people wearing the ultimate reward already... even a few days ago... WAAAY too early... do you think this person was cheating?... or how can I also get the ultimate reward so fast??...
I’m sure people by now are JUST getting their first seasonal heart. Report them, as modifying is against the ToS.
Also sofi, please read the pins of this channel, specifically omi and xynth’s posts.
This is a topic that should be avoided being discussed in discord for various reasons (which they explain)
oh... okay okay... sorry
No problem! Hope you’re able to report them next time 
so, should I delete my messages?... I've read the pins on the topic...
So, I just completed fire trial
Yes please 
uh...... is my toilet shrimp gone....?
I greatly underestimated how hard itd be
nah, he's still there, it's just that you can't activate him
Oh no my poor baby
hi hiii
Fire trial is actually easy now with white candles owo
@digital dove sorry I just saw your comment in screencaps. I think there was some miscommunication here. When you said ‘costs’ we thought you meant actual costs/candle prices of each item. We didn’t know you were using ‘costs’ an abbreviation for ‘cosmetics’
#beta-screenshots-videos message I actually made a collage for people who wanted to avoid spoilers
sorry for all the confusion
oh hey, #beta-known-issues been updated 
4th spirit
still gone
Ah- I'm so annoyed. Today I've encountered the same hacker for the fourth time. I've reported him/her multiple times but they keep on appearing in my home space and at praraire social area,,
I'm so tired. I've been chasing him with my friends too so we can report that person. There's no other thing I can do to stop encountering with this person? I've tried to befriend them so I can block them but, nothing.
ignore?
are you sure that's not 4 different hackers
Yes, I am 100% sure. I've even talked with them
Also, take a stroll through the channel pins, please
any tips for soloing the second part of the fire trial?
quit
my tip for beta-playing it is: don't ask for tips. try different things. record. make notes about what was hard or impossible, report bugs and feedback.
any tips for soloing the second part of the fire trial?
Zoom out so you can predict the monster’s path, that helped me at least (:
(oops sowwy alex >: )
if we all read the same tips, we might all miss important bugs or experiential things that should be reported
Oh ive been trying different things, but so far i cant get past a specific corridor, i just wanted a little push 👁️👄👁️ but thanks for the reminder
the reminder I give myself for any new challenge: Sky is a game about patience. if you have tried everything else, try patience.
me waiting for krill farts to pass by 🧍♂️
Now to try fainting through the wall whenever the fart passes by
With patience you will learn the best ways to do it by yourself 
me writing down "krill fart" to add it to the bot censor list and lot let that become a "thing" 
fire trial really said ❌ 🧀
aye fair enough 😔
too late. I searched, and Ktjn repeated it. I'm doomed
Do we have any good names for that fire trial monster? other than “krill fart”
that's a good discussion topic
i like dust bunnies, there's plenty of names
soot sprites, a la My Neighbor Totoro?
I just call it fire monster, but I’m pretty sure I could call it something better
my neighbor totoro but evil
soot comes from fire, it's the perfect extension of the trial
krill fart is good
I’m calling it not something nice. I don’t like spending hours trying to get through a trial 😊
I love calling it an angry worm on a string 
I call them whispers
shadow fluffies/fuzzies are my fav nicknames for them. I can’t get too mad at Fluffy.
Lol
"angry worm on a string" is too many words for discord... even though it's perfect
Fluffy is catchy
vibe checkers is one too
bob
just fluffies for short? corrupted fluffs?
BOB HAHAHA
“Fluffy no- no hugs right now- nooooo-
ok here we go again
“
Fluffy bois
bob is a palindrome. obviously indicates evil
angy gas worms
we'll come up with something like how krill and moth have stuck around in the community
I'm off to go be a battery pack for someone now. I'll back read all these name suggestions tho. Some very good ones
smoke monster, like "Lost"
in the future: “watch out for Fluffy bois
“
switch/ios/android moths:

Baby krill
Just wait till it comes to live, general will surely come up with something 
I dunno, my first instinct with the wee monsters were that they were sound waves for some reason, and now I can't unsee it 😂😂😂
evil furby
Soot demons
I’m curious how we’ll end up calling them when prophecy ends on live
Tho we can’t even agree on winged lights./stars/shiny bois/wing buffs and that’s ay okay 
when i ask in my feedback if they can add sound to the fluffly bois i will ask them to use furby sounds thanks dark
home glitch???? in the fire trials???? or did i get lucky ??
edit: i got lucky
@minor robin wait right, I always see it as - using an example - I have 92 stars and 32 wing buffs, which gives me 123 total, which gives me 10 winged lights (the wee flight meter thing)......
I like how TGC doesn’t give it a actual name and then the community just makes one
until we end up calling it Bob.
The exception are dark dragons
joanbug: that’s pretty logical ahaha
me: shiny bois make my cape go brrrrrrr 
Am I total wrong here guys is my life a LIE! 😭😭😭
bob is my new name for all of them thank you kontra
Dark blobs 
Honestly Bob is a great name for the krill farts
Bob? Bob ross?? 
Guys hmm how do you enter to the new area?
cave at the end of isle
@oak berry it's important not to wait for it to get to live before making a name that will stick... otherwise, "krill fart" will definitely be adopted far and wide... and then it will be too late
before flying to temple, cloud tunnel
Krills farts it is
How where the tiny boat is with the three lights?
I would say "shadow krill" but that's .... redundant
Bob Ross is kinda accurate given he's dubbed the father of ASMR and this game is very very ASMR friendly 😂😂😂
I like krill farts 
I'm just waiting for an emote of that.... Bob
Most people call them whispers
Bob ross but the back of his hair has the krill fart eyes
I’m trying to come up with something before we decide to adopt “krill fart” 

im so lost
@spark trellis #beta-screenshots-videos message
“fire boogies” continues to be my favourite name for them, tho “vibe checker” is very good too
I like fire boogies, just juvenile enough to make me giggle a little every time I read it
One vote for fluffy 
I’m trying to come up with something before we decide to adopt “krill fart”
@buoyant wasp Whispers
bob is such a unsuspecting name for a shadow monster
well theres the official name and the community name, i dont think tgc can make krill farts or vibe checkers sound professional enough 
Thank you aladdin

Vibe checker is nice, but I mean...
💨
I’m not a fan of compound names (is that how you say it? two words)
I like singular like krill, soot, whispers, bob
What new from the new update can anyone tell me?
Fire trial is impossible now

We should try and stick with the "k" sounds, both krill and crabs have that hard k noise so we would make them all match!
but bob
#beta-announcements can tell you what’s new in the update
The first thing I thought when I saw them was, „angry cloud“ haha
I just call them dust bunnies in feedback and bug reports...
bob is a perfect name
I like soot demons. Krill farts makes me feel like I'm talking to only adolescent boys - which I'm not used to - only have daughters
I was gonna say kbob as a joke, but then it autocorrected to something very British and dirty and now I can't stop laughing 😂😂😂😂😂
I think krill farts is a joke, albeit a funny one

Does anybody have a good photo of the Whispers?
funny only in the beta channels
I'm calling them bob and that's that 
Lizard man stuck so bob will too
angy beans 
I like sooties and whispers as legit names 
4th spirit still sewing pants for us and MIA? My discord acting funny when I open tabs. This was my last tab opened so it works
Hey there @orchid nebula, the Prophet of Fire aka Lion Mask spirit is currently not available in-game to relive, please stay patient and wait for the updates on this issue in #beta-known-issues & #beta-announcements 
soot is good name
i'm going to trademark bob
I like all of the names you guys said actually
@kindred fossil I don't think Bob Ross would appreciate that
Underwater on valley looks awesome 
Anybody have a good clear scary pic of the smoke guys? (Whispers)
bob ™️
dementor 
smudge monkeys 
jkr's nah lets not go there
What about mean mists
they're just a black puff of smoke and a recolored asset for the eyes
Here’s one pic of them #beta-screenshots-videos message
GEEEEZ, I almost got an jumpscare on this pic
that's true definition on "You can't hear images"
im legit over here on thesaurus.com trying to find good words
Which those above names do they look like?
im still hoping there’s some kind of sea creature that resembles the soot monsters. that’d match up with most of the rest of sky creatures
I just call them Phantoms, or "Espectros" in portuguese owo
Phantom krills 
I used to get through the fire challenge with minimal deaths but now I can’t even get through it once

That’s a nice one, I also speak portuguese, relatable name 
phantom tadpoles
shadow wraith
Lol what if they were named after what went in our thoughs when we saw them
Aka, name them "jesus christ"
The guy/girl who took the picture named them dark fuzzies too
Id be calling them "holy f@#$!" if we called them what we first saw them.
Here’s one pic of them #beta-screenshots-videos message
@buoyant wasp ty
Fire trial is impossible now
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@warm badger i just did it with a friend and it took 1.5 hours 😭
talking about that, does our sky kid are jesus son????
||because water trial, they walk above water owo||
||not intend on harming any culture or religion tho||
Fire trial is actually easy if you stop thinking on your next move and actually lighting the candles and running like you don't care owo
Lol what if they were named after what went in our thoughs when we saw them
Aka, name them "jesus christ"
@tiny umbra I’d name it DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
||math meme well technically and please correct me but isnt the belief that we're all children of god, my source is the hunchback of notre dame) sooooooo yea?||
Fire trial is actually easy if you stop thinking on your next move and actually lighting the candles and running like you don't care owo
@amber dove I got to a lot of dead ends so it took me a while
i can't correct because idk because i have dumb 
@mellow atlas oof, since this retreated update where candles are now white, i can see them, even on the dark, and i can go straight on the path, without going on dead ends
c'mon isn't that hard owo
the only difficulty I had is on that 12371902739812730891270983712030912 phantoms part
yeah i just kept dying bc i was being stupid honestly XD
can you chibi glitch under the fire trials? or does it kill you 
same owo
btw the worst trial for me is earth, for sure
@tiny umbra idk, if u fall u die, soooooo i guess not...?
thats my fav though... I got my earth trial runs down to 7 minutes tho @amber dove
The Smokey bois kill you even when you’re standing over a candles 🕯
Imagine if they made a dark, maniacal laugh as they whizzed past and yeeted your light from you?
I hate those parkour parts :(
It took me 3 hours
What do you all think of the new white candles in each trial room? I’m not a fan tbh
Oh yeah @amber dove
How the hell do people already have all the capes and even the final season mask?!
Is there a trick to finishing the fire trial? I've been at it for 20 minutes and I'm thoroughly not happy.
@placid linden On fire trial? made more easy,
on others trails? idk i didn't saw
!reportplayer aro
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
just finished fire with kai and the 3rd level was pretty confusing. so many candles to light 
@placid linden On fire trial? made more easy,
on others trails? idk i didn't saw
@amber dove No, like before you enter the trial, in the meditation rooms
I reported 2 people an hour ago, they said they got the ultimate mask through a ‘glitch’ 🤦🏽♀️
in the room where u pray I like it just for trial of earth
I have returned from being va battery pack! Good news, I can distinctly hear when the death loop ends in fire trial so even with the obnoxious flashing i can go back later and solo it with my sound up
I have morbid curiosity
somebody please DM these images to me I need me people wearing the ult mask
@amber dove No, like before you enter the trial, in the meditation rooms
@placid linden Ooooo, I think it's good, because u don't have to go near the meditate part to know where u exactly need to meditate to go on the trials
I wonder if they could make a way to avoid dying by the Smokey bois, maybe holding your candle out or stepping away from it, maybe making your flame run out slower so you have more time to get out of the way
Ah I see, will be reporting next time
I have morbid curiosity
somebody please DM these images to me I need me people wearing the ult mask
@valid terrace maybe next time, i didn’t get a pic this time
Btw making fire trial with friends are kind a cheat tho, u can just hold hands and ignore the candles ._. ||since u recover more light||
I think thats the point
i'm pretty sure thats the point.
oh you're right.. i've done with friends but we didn't hold hands
Rly? Me and my friend were holding hands everytime a krill fart passed by and stood by a candle and we still died sometimes
lmao, rlly? i was doing with a friend, the krill just yeeeted on us, and we didn't died
how do i not die in the fire trial i could be right on top of a candle and i still die ;-;
I'm gonna try solo later and see
Solo + deepcall op
For me, if you deep honk with another player in fire trial, you can get through it fairly quick
good luck kai 
the second level where the krill swoops down is where i got stuck when doing it solo
Deep honk definitely helps
I'm in a floating flame in the third zone, idk how much till I finish
just a little bit longer zeryle! don't get lost like i did 
Can i just say the trials look so beautiful after the new update. Thank you TGC
I'll come back when I finish eating, I know how to exit the white screen at least
the 3rd level of fire still needs polish, but i can see where the devs are headed with it from the first level
love it. got really far in the fire trial solo only to get a perm white screen :)))
oh i tried moving it. doesnt help
try moving around while its happening to get out of it
the air and earth trial textures is still plain white, is this a bug or intended?
I very angery naw 
I going get seasonal candle and cant ever touch the seasonal candle near gate because people keep honking da crab and crash me 
han, its likely that the rest of the trials aren't fully polished like water is right now
ohh thanks aeras 
Yeah, they mostly did retouches on the cave, trial of water and trial of fire. Don’t think they even touched air. One step at a time!
Earth is starting to get retouched though, the lanterns at the start and the green light for the door
Is toilet krill still around
I just realized that they made the spirits much cheaper 
hm.... about that...
I just realised, Trial of Water looks so good it makes other trials look bad 
Elius, the others will get polish soon enough. Just think about it, water trial is the first quest, so it must be ready by live release.
Lol i imagine the live kids entering and going 0-0
Basically, yall should've seen my reaction when I went in 
Woah what, 5 minutes of silence??
Oh man I’m so excited for the live kids reactions to this one, those who don’t want spoilers that is
Do the fluffy black owls make some kinda noise?
im not in the beta
nah they just make the ground shake n stuff no sounds
They whisper your darkest fears into your ears when they kill you. It's just an incoherent clang when you die from them.
guess im deaf
@dull adder really? That'd be neat to see
Please let the name fluffy black owls catch on I love this and this love is gonna kill me via me running to give them hugs
hi please someone tell me tips to avoid the things in fire trial, this is impossible. I’m currently alone bc no one went with me
Jarvis, I’ve noticed you can sway past them if you time it right 
Just gotta keep an eye on your own light
If you're solo, pretty much prelight the candles, dieing each time. Once you have the corridor fully lit, after the last one cycles through, book it to the end of their pathing.
Could someone DM me a picture of the free capes in beta?
forget bob they're dark owls now
after the slowmodes up i can send a video of the shake shake when theyre near for ya lokshu
Nah, dont wanna get spoild too much. Thats why i didnt bother just lookin up vids lol
but thank you!
Anyone knows how to hide from the things at trial of fire
I got curious about possible noises cuz of those drawings posted in #beta-screenshots-videos
Is it still 3 spirits available?
ye fire dudes still feelin kinda shy atm
Anyone knows how to hide from the things at trial of fire
@round obsidian i haven't tried sit emote, i just run back to the previous candle
Lokshu, I drew the owls cause the eyes reminded me of them
their sound is a low grumble, thou the sound you make when you die is much more memorable
@round obsidian i haven't tried sit emote, i just run back to the previous candle
@tired wolf
I have but it doesn't really work
fire trial is becoming too frustrating, I feel like it’s too hard. I’ll probably give feedback
Trial of fire is about courage, there is no hiding, only trial and error. (Pun intended)
(mostly error)
@tiny umbra mhm... i see i see, thanks
Just a question- (idk why I thought of this lol) was the krill supposed to have two eyes as well or something? Like in the development of this game way back then. Because like this time's fire trial, the creatures now just look like gas like versions of krill (to me) Or is this just completely unrelated and I'm thinking too much?
fire trial is becoming too frustrating, I feel like it’s too hard. I’ll probably give feedback
@ionic bluff when the season is live, quests are a week apart, it'll feel better to complete rather than speed running all trials and have nothing to do after
WOW i just played through the redesigned water trial, its stunning! The water trial was the most challenging trial for me but now it is definitely my favourite, thank you team for your continued hard work!
i can’t believe this game is so detailed and available on our phones!!!

@tired wolf but that doesn’t matter rn, it’s still too hard. This might frustrate a lot of new players and be kind of a problem if people find it way to hard to complete. I’ve been trying to get through for about an hour now
Solo fire trial would be a LOT easier if my mom would stop texting me
like dangit I figured out how to time the death loop by sounds so I could avoid photo sensitive stuff. Just let me finish 
Over 2 hours for me on fire trial... 
Two hours?! Nah you’re definitely doing something wrong...
A friend and I also bailed on fire trial as we couldn't complete. Did pre update.
That was solo, Azaura
It’s just too difficult, and even THEN People are gonna have to repeat the trials for star runs. plus beta is all about changing things for live so if it’s too hard then this would be a good thing to give feedback on, and not everyone can do it with other players with them
I've only been at it like 20 minutes and am a good chunk of the way through the second part solo. Keep dying cuz i get to a candle and click to light it and boom text message shows up. Super inconvenient to fill my screen with that
Wait did it get updated as well? Did they all get updated?!
Yes, last night.
I remember ktjn said she used 2 hours for water before the second update vugbcdehnjowks

I might ditch fire trial for now and just go for water trial to test. I kinda feel bad tho
Ooh sorry it’s even harder than before then?
They all are
Now that I know the pathing, I could probably do it in less than 30mins, but trial and error of learning pathing took over 2 hours... And getting lost in the 3rd floor maze. 
Some people are publishing photos of our dear fire prophet, he is finally here and not shy? 
Water definitely has the same difficulty as before
Water is harder than before, more slippage...new paths
Nothing changed on water other than its aesthetic design the path is still the same
The floating platforms do rotate now in water trial...
Fire trial was just redundant and frustrating for me; basically just candles candles candles occasional random dying candles candles PORTAL but it leads to more candles
this season is so stressful to test
but I can’t give up!
I guess everyone has different thresholds, every trial tests a different one

Fire trial was just redundant and frustrating for me; basically just candles candles candles occasional random dying candles candles PORTAL but it leads to more candles
At least now the scenery changes.
I thought fire trial was mid-tier in terms of difficulty.... Finished it alone in 30 min before and after the update.... I do find that if I wait for the worms to fly by in the 2nd stage, they don't hit me. I've figured out how to time lighting candles between the fire worm paths
“Fire worms”
they are very weird things aren’t they? remind me of oversized sootballs
The only time increasing portion of the fire trial is the 60-90 second wait between each death.
At least, that's how long it took me to respawn...
60-90 seconds before respawning?! Damn
I assume it is due to them not optimizing the area for Android 11 yet or something if no one else had that long of a wait
A few times I'd die while standing and barely moving directly on top of the candle when the fire worms past by me and it got really frustrating :'))
Yeah if a worm brushed past you while you stand over a candle you should be good but if it passes directly over you, you will perish
I know but it was still pretty frustrating

Ah haha i tried to hug the floor but that doesn’t work 
Uh...no update on Android yet or was it automatic?
It was pushed around 11:40PM PDT last night
I don't know what what means.
Update was live on Google Play Store at that time. I would reboot your phone if you check and you're not on the new build number: 154869

Ok so it was automatic. I usually have to manually do it. But I'm not seeing the fixes. It says the candles should be in today's realm, but I'm not seeing them.
what if it's not, says last updated Sept 4
Does anyone else have two sets of Sky: Children of the Light iMessage stickers? I was wondering if it was related to beta 
Yes beta has stickers too
The shaking of the camera when u die in fire trial is making my head hurt so much 
Ok so it was automatic. I usually have to manually do it. But I'm not seeing the fixes. It says the candles should be in today's realm, but I'm not seeing them.
If you can't find the seasonal candles in GW, please submit a bug report and ensure you are on the correct build number by long pressing the app, tap app info, advanced and the number in parentheses should be 154869.
bless i thought the app crashes when my daughter or I call to flip
but apparently someone else calling half the map away crashes us too 😌
what if it's not, says last updated Sept 4
@rain latch did you got beta access again during the latest beta wave? If you didn't, you can't receive updates anymore until you get beta access again
The candles changed locations today to get ready for prophecy, but they’re still in the general area and hard to miss
@spark lance yes this is my first time with beta, I had a hard time getting Google to show me access to download but it finally did and it updated once for me but It's not showing an update available in the play store
hmm that's weird. Last update was on September 24 normally. Maybe you left the beta program accidentally?
How?
I was looking in the complete wrong place it's my bad, it did update for beta but not the live app it says updated Sept 23 (154869) I was looking at live because I thought that was also supposed to have an update
there wasn't though, I was just wrong
Friendly reminder about what's going on today:
-Fireboi is still missing.
-Please don't deep call crabs in Wasteland, it will crash your game and other's in the area, be kind.
-Trials have been updated
Try them out and leave #beta-feedback
-Check the pins!
Keep an eye on #beta-known-issues and #beta-announcements
