#beta-discussion
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I accidentally posted in the live looking for group once when I first joined beta. Accidents happen too
Ktjn just told someone to get a child of light role to access the rest of the server so some of them might be getting a beta child role but not child of light role?
Oh wait both of them only have the beta role and not the Child of Light role, so they probably can't see the #questions-and-help channel
Ahh that would do it
FJkdvsn but yeah #questions-and-help would be the proper channel for more questions
Isn’t there a way for the bot to just tag people when they join and tell them to do that?
No worries
Was just noticing that the last two hours were questions unrelated to beta
it's important to meet folks with kindness and herd them to channels that might be tailored to their needs, but there's no reason to make someone feel bad for asking a question in the wrong channel.
where is the orange and green light?
orange light is in the last area before the temple in forest with the bridges and jellyfish. it's off to the left of that area where the star in the treehouse(?) looking thing is
the green light is in the birdsnest area of prairie
Sorry, didn’t mean to be rude. Was just wondering out loud why so many people were using the beta channel for non-beta stuff.
If someone doesn’t mind, id love to see some photos of the new spirits! I don’t have access to beta and it’s be great to see what the cosmetics look like before I preorder
@forest violet #beta-screenshots-videos you can find a lot there
or i can dm you some if you want to avoid non cosmetic spoilers
The problem with asking questions in the questions channel is that the question might be forgottten if the channel is scrolling too fast/multiple convos are going on at once
It's bound to get a little wild around here, we've had almost 10k new members in the last 10 days.
Anyone knows where the beta season candles are today?
Lol.. and here I was worried sky might be losing players to other games cough animal crossing cough ...guess Android release more than makes up for any loss
I searched for the word candles on here but obviously its giving me all sorts except the beta season candles location
@neon dragon give me a min to finish helping my friend in prairie and I'll go get screenshots
Oh, uhh forest I think..
Yeah, they are a bit hard to find
🤯
One in the house where the cutscene triggers as you enter
One in the pipes before that
One in the first tower
Eh.. last one.. forgot
House next to the stuck manta when you enter from tree house map
I think
Ok I got three!
That fourth one though 😬
Where are you candle lol
🕯
What's the tree house map?
Found it pheww
😰
i dont know if i could ask this, or where, but any chance someone with a beta or founders cape take me to get one? 👀 i really would like to get one but i dont know anyone who has one
and yes, i do realize and am willing to actually get the cape, knowing what i have to do. so i wont bail out suddenly 
are you on the live version of the game @round frost ? if so post in #looking-for-group-live
i didn't know, i wanted to make sure it was okay to talk about it first lol
just spoiler tag the name of the area with double | on either side like this "can someone uber me to ||office||"
UPDATE!!!!!!

The notes?
If I had at least some idea what has been changed I’d dive in.
Same
Wait again? :0
Yep. Now it will just be 30 minutes or so until any of us had it downloaded 🤣
The Play Fight emote crept into live.
Better have given the vault spirits their head pieces back 👊😤
Aww the lost them? Didn’t even notice 
I’m hoping it will revert a change that genuinely distresses me.
Entry to GW changed so that you can no longer land under control. I realize it’s just a response to some personal losses I’ve suffered over the last couple of days, but I just can’t seem to handle landing face down in the sand.
Oh yeah except I haven’t been landing in the sand
It keeps planting me on top of the monolith
I’d deal with that. Maybe I should stop trying the old technique.
I’m really struggling with it. I’ve considered stepping away from the game for a bit despite loving the new beta content.
Didn’t they change it so you now are able to not face plant?
It’s actually kinda weird because it throws me straight down then at the last moment it’s like there’s a weird ooberpowerful wind sheer upward and my skykids curves up
I can’t faceplant but he can’t avoid it
Yes, exactly
The upwind sends me flying and then I just continue by using the normal means.
Pulling hard to the left used to allow you to land under control
Now it face plants you
Don’t do that, then?
I guess I’ll try just not doing anything
Used to be that there was a technique that you could learn. I never consistently got it
Yes, there is a new upwind in the...third (?) angle part.
Yeah
The old way was very inconsistent.
Ok. I’ll try landing without input. I used to be able to stick the landing pretty much every time. You had to pull hard left at the 2nd scene.
Some day we will convince them that camera and control steals are basically the worst
They are upsetting. It’s a matter of player agency.
The plant has a forced camera...oh, if someone actives the cut scene.
I’ll be 3/4 done and someone lights the temple beacon in forest temple and it camera steals to look at the altar and the plant grows back before I can see
🤬
🤦♀️
Oh right yes. That’s what I mean. You dont get to control your avatar.
I’ll be honest I’m really glad that there’s less than half a candle worth of light
Prairie village and the mantas...
Half a candle worth of light in Isle of Dawn
Yes those creepy critters abduct people against their will all the time
It’s illegal in real life for a reason
I guess there’s a lesson to be learned from “you don’t get to have control of your character all the time” but... right now, I’d like to have an illusion of control in a game I play to relax.
Like Peter said before, there is now even less story at the start of the game.
Hmmm I felt like they were making even more certain that the early story got told correctly
And it all makes sense for noobs to get a solid walkthrough/tutorial
But after completing eden all camera steals and cutscenes really need to be a toggle
/toggleable
I agree completely.
yes, please toggle
I mean I remember telling my wife about this game back in August. I was getting close to Eden and even then I told her “it’s beautiful and oddly relaxing but I have no idea what the heck I’m doing”
There’s more information available in game now than there was back then
But still
I don't know, having spent a lot of time in the Questions channel lately, my impressions is that a lot of new players don't understand the core value of the game: generosity, kindness, exploration. They are on mad hunts for candles to get cosmetics, they claim to have "finished the game" because they played through all realms, they actually what is the meaning of the game. So something is not being communicated properly.
I experienced the adjusted entry to GW this morning. I don't know what this latest update might have done. I expressed my feeling about the fiddling going on with this recently and it wasn't welcomed by TGC. It's interesting to see others with similar opinions. It was mildly annoying before, but now it's just all sorts of broken.
@hollow compass this. For sure.
"Chore value", that's an interesting term.
Well... I think it was unintentional, but by not releasing new narrative content, all people really have to do is farm, buy things, rinse repeat.
I mean if you KNOW what all the literature means, I suppose it’s pretty good as a reference, but that defeats the purpose
And I should say, some of us oldies have the advantage of having experienced the game in the very early stages, while in close communication with the devs. So maybe we (or I) are just taking some things for granted.
Lol. “Core”
oops, typo!
<-- me not English, also haven't had morning coffee yet
What’s your native language Ati?
I need to take another look at Isle on my current device.
are we supposed to reveal personal info here...?
Sorry. Didn’t seem too personal.
I am from a small Nordic country
No need to say if you’re uncomfortable.
I know that it’s really a placeholder for feelings I have about real life things being beyond my control... but even knowing that, I find it really distressing when control is wrested away from me, especially when it results in unavoidable harm. Like, I’m just not in a good space to “learn” from that experience. And frankly, at my age, I know all about how control is an illusion.
I definitely get that, Adar
Just tried wasteland entrance on my iPad and it seems back to normal?
Also I like being able to use the home@button while in home to resume
They took that away in beta
how do you mean?
In live right now, if you are at home, you can use the home button in your emotes menu and it is the same as walking up to the resume journey portal in the water.
oh
In beta, when you’re at home the button is greyed out
I didn't know that, oops
It was nice being able to resume from anywhere at home
I don’t know whether it’s a bug or intentional
I remember hearing about this, but never used it
Ugh.
Thanks for letting me know. Guess I’ll be avoiding GW until I get over myself. Sigh.
Oooh! They sunk the new building in GW
The new building on the right hand side is just a roof
busy playing acnh
there is a traitor among you 
Animal crossing 😆
My kids are obsessed
so addictive
...and that’s why I haven’t gotten it. But given that I “literally can’t even” with the most important realm in Sky at the moment, maybe I should look into animal crossing instead
it is very happy and cute
That sounds like just what the doctor ordered.
with the adjustments to how to have a friend let you in the dev room, I wonder what are the requirements for the friend part? I’d imagine it’s not just “just met player we can hold hands”.
I’d test that but beta is pretty barren
isn't it just that you can't skulk around and hitchhike the moment the portal goes up?
Check beta updates
They changed it so you can’t do that anymore
Too much “leeching” was in live in a sense
it says: -changed the matchmaking to the secret area so strangers who glitch past the gate can no longer prey on cyan cape wearers to get into the office without being guided by someone they are freinds with
i think it's just in that specific area tho, u can still meet players with the founders cape outside the portal area
Yea that’s what you just said
The portal will now not open for you if you glitched in and someone else was near the portal
so, it has nothing to do with whether you've been friends for ages or not
it's just to stop strangers from going in at the same time
No what I’m saying is that for example there’s a requirement for sending hearts.
I’d imagine they thought ahead and you need to meet a requirement with a friend to be eligible to be let in to the portal if someone brought you in.
Im willing to test with you if you’d like.
it doesn't say that, though
LB just offered
It’s like how you can’t teleport to people in 8 gate after they activated the elevator
but that's not the same mech, is it?
the way I understood it, you can be in the same room, but you can't enter unless you're holding a cape owner's hand
That’s not how the portal works
oh
then I must have misunderstood
I thought you could bring a friend who didn't have the cape with you, as long as you were holding hands. But the new patch prevents a stranger, who is standing by the portal to sneak in while it is being activated.
Is that not it?
People who glitch past the area won’t even get put in the same instance with people who have the cape
But you don’t have to be holding hands with them
I think it doesn’t apply to ppl just waiting by the gate but I’m not sure
The first gate that is
So, if I am with a friend whom I have held hands to get past the barrier, I can let go of them and we can both enter once we're close to the portal?
Yeah
Interesting.
But I suppose it makes sense. Although, it doesn't contradict what I was saying earlier about strangers.
We did some tests
Me and @sly current
We had my sons account join us in the vault when we were standing by the gate
He didn’t have time to warp to me before he got server clipped
Tried again knowing what was going to happen and just barely managed to warp to me
But yeah it looks like the game just doesn’t let you stay on a server where someone else is headed in
I'm glad to see that people who sneak in can't be put in the same instance as the cyan capes though. You should make the effort to make friends (friendships being the main focus of the game) with a cyan cape or support TGC monetarily if you want the bonus area. This is a free game with ZERO ads and a ton of content. I don't mind financially supporting that when I can afford to and it's not unfair of them to have exclusive paid content. There really isn't much paid only content and you can still access 90+% of the paid content for free if you're patient and daily candle grind anyways. Also it's super easy to make friends with cyan capes. just go in #looking-for-group-live and ask for an ||office|| uber. also because you put that up while I was typing my paragraph here: thank you for testing that Loony! looks like it's working as intended.
also side note: I absolutely 1000000000% love that building friendships is a huge point of this game. I have made so many friends here and my live account constellation can't even hold them all. It's super cool to connect with people all over the world and Sky is so much more relaxed pace than a lot of MMO type games. I'm so happy my friend introduced me to the world of sky 
I want to do another test to see what happens if a founder cape is just standing there waiting for people to take across
I wonder if they’ll end up on a separate server or whether they’ll be able to befriend randos and take them through.
That wasn’t clear from our tests
hmm that probably involves waiting for strangers instead of friends warping to you
Yep. I have a hunch that the founders cape person won’t encounter any random non friends. They’ll get sifted to separate servers
you could wait at the hidden door and it probably wouldn't server swap but further in it will likely prevent strangers from entering with you
otherwise it might hurt cyan capes trying to get the 4 player doors further into vault x.x
I also want to try two friends who aren’t holding hands but are just side by side
I wonder if it will separate them and when
I wonder if TGC is planning on bringing the cosmetic shrines (idk their official names? those little closet thingies) into vault too for quick change of cyan cape
If the cape is too disruptive they’ve almost gotta
It’s already kindof annoying
If you want to put it on after GW you have to go home.
I wish it were a badge or a pendent or sommat so we could wear regular capes and such.
I tend to warp home between realms when I do a candle run rather than flying through. feels a bit faster to me
Except when there are candles on the other side, like forest.
Otherwise I generally ageee
But it’s harder and more disruptive when ubering, which I do a lot
you can rocket glitch through there XD not that I encourage it but it's fun to yeet into the clouds
They had a warp wall up there at some point in the recent past
Did they get rid of it?
(Cross a certain point and get warped back inside)
I've rocketed into the clouds recently without warping. my friend might just be -really- good at timing that rocket though XD
I kinda wanna test now and find the warp wall 😮
have a good night!
Good luck.
Two colored light quests today? That can’t be right?
Or is it a way to give Cyan some action?
The big candle bunches are in prairie, so maybe that’s why it’s there today?
yeah and it is not a chore to get the cyan one, once we know where it is
i basically had the same reaction haha
it's fun gliding around that area so i like it
Disappointed the valley candles are still in old places
The balls of light are so much nicer now
Haha noooo
They just need to be under the ice
Although that’s true we’ve never had them in the citadel, have we?
All seasonal candles in the last krill area in Eden
If they were in the citadel you’d consistently fail to get them unless they were nerfed to fly close to a spot you could stand on. Flight in the citadel is one of the worst in the entire game. After they nerfed flight and the controls all sorts of wind walls and updrafts were added to allow you to just ride air currents up to the top. Those constantly interfere with flight here making quests painful and not-fun.
i know you prefer the old flight system, but i've never been bothered flying around in citadel, i love it there. i never experienced the old flight controls though.
i have a fixed route in citadel for farming and i don’t have trouble with that, but i still consider flying is terrible.
for more details: https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/618891214527266846/688260020152172554
I love citadel flight... It's fun to switch between glide and hover for precision landing. Birds nest has funkier wind currents and I love it too. It's a fun challenge
If everything was just dead air... This game would be slow and unrealistic tbh.
i bet seldom would say work from home is a fun challenge tho
i’m open for challenges, but well organized ones. if there’s no way i can adjust myself to land on where i want, when i’m just a bit off from it, i don’t like it
take citadel for example, if i’m going down too fast (which is also hard to control) and i’m a bit below a platform and i still wanna land on it, either i hit on the wall and bet i would jump on it, or awkwardly switch to floating mode and fly up as least as i can but still make myself farther away from it and need seconds to descend
if you’ve ever tried to burn down a whole branch of the huge darkness you’ll probably agree even the floating mode is hard to control. the repealing force from the darkness is not a fun challenge in my opinion, it’s a huge trouble
The thing I hate the most is when you’re aiming for a platform or hole and instead hit a wall and bounce in the opposite direction
Why does it dooooooo that
exactly! it’s hard to know which one will happen
You should just hit the wall and then be able to correct it. Why does it send you off in another direction?
I find it mildly annoying lol... except if I'm in a place like the cave in Prairie. The available light sources are pretty slow to recharge the cape.
I hate it
That light in the hole there ticks me off if I start dropping altitude and bounce off the wall after missing the ledge by a few inches
I’m like just happily flying along and hit the ledge slightly off and now I have to circle around again
I have been playing a lot of flying games with dogfighting so I'm pretty used to circling back, but then I already depleted my flight power. As long as a strong light source is nearby or get to maintain flight power like in Citadel, I'm fine with it lol
@arctic harness forgotten ark isnt possible to go to in live just yet
wait for enchantment to start
It’s really impossible right now ?
Unless the loading zone is behind the wind wall and we somehow figure out how to get past it /s?
it’s possible to get into forgotten ark area
someone managed to glitch in but that was a one time thing
but you have to glitch in
why is there a krill over perfect good mountains to explore?
I hopped out of the boat and flew up into the mountains
to prevent you from exploring it
maybe it connects to an area of valley.... that would be fun
In live?👀
there is a spot in the valley mountains that could connect to the forgotten ark area in wasteland
you go through a wall to get to the valley spot
wheres the cyan and blue light
cuz i dont rememver
i remember that one light is in ice rink
but where's the other
cyan is in the clouds at the end of isle (just before prairie.)
blue is in valley’s ice rink
thank u
Game*
Hi
If I take pre-order and give real money per season, when will the new season officially launch, do I have to buy it again?
Ok
are you asking if passes are a one-time purchase?
I mean, if I buy now pre-order when the new official season will be launched, I have to buy it again?
No if you pre-order the pass you'll have it when the next season starts
But you'd have to buy a new one for the season after
Thank you!
thanks mini, my brain borked ^^
@rigid radish everything is free in beta
I don’t know exactly how, but it’s possible to oob to the new area in wasteland in the live game
I warped to someone
And I’m there right now
Heard somebody is able to jump into new area in GW in live version, is it a glitch or bug cuz those guys started collected candles from mushrooms
It is definitely true cuz one of my friend invite me to there but I refuse
oof
I wonder who discovered this glitch
it's supposedly a glitch
either way, we wouldn't want to spread awareness of how it's done
True ig
I don't want to know how to do that too
Idek how it’s done so I can’t spread it anyways 
yeah i figured
Hi
hi 
How are you
i'm good, thanks
how are you?
So when do you guys think beta is going to be on pc since android was released earlier this week
it's hard to say. i would guess not anytime soon. tgc is working on porting to nintendo switch next.
woah really?
I think they’re still working out the kinks for Android. Last I heard their next efforts were going to be aimed towards the Nintendo Switch.
did someone already note that they removed the new wasteland building from 0.9.0? just noticed
I love it here
Wuuu
Aww thank you! The SkyFam is glad to have you! 

i think someone did, Voctor. although i think the building may still be there, only sunk deeper into the ground
It’s just to keep you updated, if you want.
ask away 
Guys the toxic water by the ark is only toxic if you stand in it, not if you swim in it (this is before purifying it)
So weird
Do you need to pay real money to be beta?
Nope
did someone already note that they removed the new wasteland building from 0.9.0? just noticed
@vale shale it’s still there, it’s just sunken.
Was it like that in Live? The building is in Live now.
i don't remember to be honest
Yeah I find myself questioning how much of that was there before. I know the building was new, but now that it’s sunken in beta... I feel like the sunken version looks familiar...
why is the beta still available to be played if the official game has already been released? do you intend to close it?
because sky is still in active development, so there's always new things to test
Oh ok
tgc plans to continue working on sky until they don't think they can improve it anymore
however long that takes. probably several years at least
How do you become beta
The iOS and Android betas are full at the moment, @round pond. To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements! Give yourself the beta role here by tapping the
in #rules to be notified of important updates.
When does the new season come out
Thank you
And if you are beta, do you still get the beta cape? I heard that ended a while ago
!betareward
The Beta Cape was a one-time reward for the testing period prior to the iOS global launch. A future reward is not planned.
How do I become a beta tester?
The iOS and Android betas are full at the moment, @hallow vine. To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements! Give yourself the beta role here by tapping the
in #rules to be notified of important updates.
it is really 999 hearts. it's just a beta-only easter egg though. there aren't any plans to add it to the regular game any time soon.
i don't know if anyone has unlocked it yet
Oh really? I thought it was soon coming to live version after some beta testers will have tried it
even if it's been tested, it might never make it's way to live
some stuff in beta has been there for months
Some of my friends in live got the capeless option
Apparently it was accessible at the end of Eden
As a glitch.
sounds like a bug, yes
Do you think the rankings of the friends menu will stay as a beta thing?
probably. but you never know
Well you can become capeless by just loosing all wings on purpose
yeah.
there's capeless, and there's the no-cape item. they look similar but they're quite different
if you're capeless you can't fly at all, but with the no-cape item you can.
Yeah I really wonder how it works though
it basically functions like an invisible cape, to my knowledge
So you still see the stars on the back and stuff?
I see hope someone will upload a video of it I'm curious
I was thinking that instead of flapping their arms, they’ll hover and spin like peter pan functions
Today I posted the screenshot of 99 Eden candles of the fish call spirit in life version screenshot thinking it was beta one
That would be very cool
Are the changes applied to the ark after you collect the lights permanent?
they seem to be
Nice 
Wait so the changes inside the ark come with the ark quests, too.
question: do changes to the ark appear different for each player? like if one player brings a brand new friend there, will the new player see that ark in it's first stage or whatever stage the other player is at
It is based on each player's progression. Yes it does appear different.
wheres the 4th candle bunch?
cannot find it!
got one by tunnel and the one on the bank right before the portal and the one on the bridge
there's two on either side of the gate leading to the citadel area
You’re missing the one to the left of the gate to the citadel @celest yarrow
people keep sending me hearts in beta and I don't need them
none of them are ever online when I am though so I can't tell them to stop and save their candles. I've stopped opening them but the notification is annoying 
how to go to space?
😂
go dreaming in the television
when?
you'll notice the flashing tv in the meeting room on that day
the cycle is every 9 days
ye i don't have the schedule up in my head rn so that's all i can tell you
so it's not a specific day of the week actually but on day x of a 9 day cycle
Ah does anyone know when the next “batch” of people will be let into beta?
no one knows
It’s not on a schedule, they do it as needed
nobody knows but if you're looking to join the beta you can get notified with a beta role
!betafaq
To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements! Give yourself the beta role here by tapping the
in #rules to be notified of important updates.
This command is for informational purposes only and not a replacement for beta slot alerts.
🙂
Thanks so much !
i want to join beta too
does anyone know where the cyan light is 🥺
ohhh thank you
How to change language?
Why my sky use chinese language
How do i change the language??
It's based on what language you have your device set to.
Hello Ktjn
Will there be any limit set to number of candles player can earn from collecting mushroom in Forgotten Ark?
It's a bug and if you're able to endlessly farm candles from it, it's an exploit. I'd recommend not gathering any more. We'll probably have this fixed and removed in the next build.
...You can get candles from mushrooms?
Yeah, but afik up to one candle per day from each mushroom. They will reappear when you re-enter the ark, your candle won't increase when you pick them again.
I know this because I did try that once in beta, when I leant about the mushrooms
sry!
not intentionally, they're leftover from a designer testing a concept.
No work today , it’s 🐣
That bunny 😱
I thought the mushrooms was kind of a neat thing
i liked the idea but the placement was strange so ig it makes sense they are just bugs
Glitching into the new area in Live just feels a bit disrespectful to TGC, who put in a lot of work to create it as a surprise with the new season. If you did somehow manage to glitch in, why spread the word and have everyone and his aunt try to get in as well?
The mushroom should fix asap because with the glitch to forgotten ark, there are already a bunch of players gathering there for free candles and winged lights.
@hollow compass Hi I did some investigation on the off-key music sheet bug you mentioned the other day. The bug is still unclear but I found the walkaround: Go to any area with a background music (like forest social) and play the music sheet there, or start playing the sheet before the home music ends. I already reported what I could find but thought you might be interested.
@dry pivot oooh, thanks! I also tried it on the boat to new area in Wasteland and then it sounded great. So it could be related to the area you're in.
@hollow compass Yeah it seems to happen in areas with no background music or with a short background music (like Home). Hope they'll identify the cause and fix it
where are the seasonal candles in wasteland?
they are in the Ark
||the ship, the boat, the whatever you called it, it's The Forgotten Ark||
thanks! @hollow compass @spark lance
um, do we need to spoiler that?
you don’t have to
All due respect for new players in beta
you can if you want to tho, no harm done
there's not that many new ones at the moment, though
I often answer like that whoever asking me that in the game..
it's ok, I was just curious since this is beta channel and we should be able to discuss most things openly here
that is reasonable
I'm always careful in the other areas of the server
it's kind of the nature of beta, imho
lol, I just saw someone swim through the grass in Home! they were chibi
Yes, i did that too to hide myself being distracted by other players when i am practicing songs
but how? 👀
It's a bug tbh, crouching stand.. A lot players glitched their way in OOBs like that
And, new players in beta most of them got into the server out of ToS. Try play in beta and you understand what I mean.
I know, I play beta.
Cool, can I exchange QR with you?
sure
Whether or not it’s disrespectful to the devs everyone is excited for the new area/season. Nearly all of the live players sharing ark content have never seen it before. Us beta players can sit back and say “Why do you guys have to spread it around so much? It’s not right” when we’ve had the content for a little while now and our initial excitement has faded. Most of us are happy for the ark/season but we’re not the same level of excited as the day the ark update released. Live players are excited because they’ve never seen it before. Let them have that excitement and just tone it down where it needs to be, like if they’re posting in every live channel. Side-eyeing live players when you come from bias as a beta player isn’t going to do anything other then make people think you’re rude.
so far i havent seen anyone trying to shut down live players in the beta channels
besides, most live players made it there by accident
I still can remember how I felt when I first visited the new area by boat, so I feel bad for them never being able to experience that.
And especially feel really really bad for those who went there unexpectedly, by warping to a friend to do 4-ppl handholding quest
yep, i logged in today and a friend warped home, said "warp to me", then return-shrined
oof
It isn’t just for here. It’s for beta players in general. I have beta friends who’ve been expressing their annoyance at people excitement for the ark glitch in live. There’s offhanded comments I’ve seen on here every so often today, even one some messages up a bunch of people reacted to like “100%” and prompted me make the post. I’m disappointed I see some long-term beta players making comments that don’t seem to see past their own bias of having the content weeks in advance.
i understand where you're coming from sidra
non-beta people are also upset about the glitch tho
i hope we all try to remember our most important server rule, being respectful to others
not upset, but id rather wait for the b o a t 
actually i think most of us beta players don't actually care because we have already been
spoilered
I’ve only seen live players upset it got spoiled for them when they warped to a friend.
in the mean-time, it is true that the more attention we draw to it, the more it'll spread tho, so it may be best to let it go
the only people who really have the tools to deal with this are TGC
@kindred fossil yeah you should
it really worth waiting
That’s what I’m saying. I’ve been seeing beta players make comments about how disrespectful it is to the devs and whatnot. Maybe true but you’ve had a long time to digest the new content. Live players haven’t. I’m sure if a similar situation happened in beta almost every beta player would be asking how to get there.
just like ye olden beta
I hope they can figure out how to avoid this in the future, bc it really is nice getting a whole new area for a new season.
I don’t want them to not do it bc they can’t stop people from glitching in ahead of time
i fear that might happen
Also, I 100% thought that the ark was similar to the office, and that the boat is just a portal to get there.
I guess not
i think TGC must know about it by now and are deciding how to act on it. they've been silent about it though, so i think we should too. discussing it (publicly) only draws more attention to it.
people probably went out of bounds to arrive there. there's a massive out of bounds area between valley and wasteland I've found
Right but I don’t think anyone has figured out how to find the office by going OOB, so maybe they could have done something similar?
possibly 😮
I know they just made it so that the instance merging in office won't put cyan capes with people just waiting there
I mean, just like I don’t think you can OOB your way from Home to any of the kingdoms. Or can you?
not from home anyways
Usually you can’t OOB somewhere that’s accessed through a portal
the oob I know of between wasteland and valley you have to reach through valley's temple
Right but Valley and Wasteland are connected
is that cloud area between not a portal?
been a while since I've actually flown between instead of warping home XD
It’s been a while since I did it but don’t you go straight through?
I don't remember D:
Anyway, there’s probably a reason it is the way it is. But maybe if they want to avoid stuff like this in the future they have to use a portal the same way as the office
Bc some people are just really good at breaking things
yeah I'm with a group of chinese players right now who glitched through the ground to see ||oreo|| without actually summoning from the candles XD
I may have also intentionally made a manta glitch to see if I could so it
I mostly keep my game breaking behaviors to beta since it is a test ground XD
I've never looked o.o it's hard to get good camera angles when you're hiding behind boulders
Will they add new ultimate rewards to the new season or will there be only 2 ultimate rewards again?
So far, only two ultimate rewards. The other reward is another hairstyle sadly..
It would be so nice to have a magical wand as an ultimate
Similar to firework staff but with another spell, maybe illuminate spell
I really need an illuminate staff
@slate oar the whole point of beta is that what we test here stays in beta until it is released to Live. It’s not about side-eyeing someone’s joy at finding a new area. It’s about respecting the creative process.
Besides, it does ruin the whole surprise effect of the new season if everyone already knows where it takes place. If Live players want to spoil themselves they can lurk here and see our updates.
Usually you can’t OOB somewhere that’s accessed through a portal
@blazing sail
Saddly to say I've seen comment in other beta discussion group said 'Player modified data and turn the boat from GW to FA active', more details are not mentioned though, it is only a statement.
so they hacked the game. which is veeeeerrrryyy much against TOS and quite different from the people taking advantage of glitches already in the game.
big yikes if hackers
Reading back through all this, tbh, I'm surprised that TGC put an update out there that actually contains the ARK area in it. The had to know that some people would glitch/hack their way in, especially when they've just opened up the game in Live to Android where (I'm guessing) most of the hacking is occurring. Given that the next season is obviously far from complete (I'm basing that mostly on the 29 days till the next light event), it's very surprising to me that the content that is considered done has been put at risk in Live the way it has. It may just be expediency due to the current compromised position the devs are in. It's just a shame because now they have to lose time to whack-a-mole instead of polishing and making the next season as wonderful as they want it to be.
according to the last update notes, it was in preparation for the release of the new season which is this month. It was probably necessary to put the area in before the actual release (likely to make sure it didn't crash the game or cause critical bugs)
Yes, I think they’ve done similar things before, such as for Belonging n
A lot of things in this game relies on an unwritten player code of conduct, such as not spoiling certain endgame events or Easter eggs.
i may or may have not made it into the ark by accident 
teleporting to a friend (probably because you wanted to hang out or get 4 player quest) isn't bad though.'
i know, haha
but, how more people are going in there is by leaving their checkpoint at the ark
so it keeps branching into other friend groups
so the method i figured out isnt how they actually got there, it mustve been through hacking
And I accidentally got there. I just joined a friend that joined another friend and maybe that friend joined another friend
yep, its a friend chain
It’s weird
And laggy
it’s not even the ark now in beta
It looks like the first version of it from beta
The farm plots look like now
And my friends can throw the umbrella with the confetti XD
you can throw any accessory if you have fireworks spells too XD I did it with my chat table once and it got stuck inside my sky kid
who are you asking?
I am a beta player if you mean me since I was the latest comment before yours
lol, it was a bit of a random question when prefaced with the 'hi'
true XD
I think maybe the changes to the ark in beta are related to the ark quests? I think they added changes inside the ark to make it more impressive
I’m wondering if a YouTuber started this
Also, I didn’t see it personally, but people posted photos of lots of shelves in the ark and then it was removed in the next update
Awhhhh
So maybe they decided that change was for one of the last two nodes that we haven’t seen yet?
Maybe?
Probably still working on all the transformations..... even tho the pre-order is counting down fast
It’s really weird
I’m wondering if they know about the ark in live
I hope they will
Poor moths just joining friends
And waking up in the middle of a new area
That’s good. I hope TGC won’t change the whole area because some players saw it
The dev team is working hard to balance things in beta but am I the only think TGC is pushing themselves too harsh to open one new season 2 weeks later. Especially when Android is out now.
With Belonging, they only tested for like a week before it went to live
I think they figure they can keep working on the later parts of the season while it’s live
The new areas that were added in belonging got changed even after their spirits came to live
If we are to believe the new seasonal quest giver in live , then the season is about to start in 8 days
Belonging was a huge change
And maybe they will bring the area before the season
I think that happed with Belonging
I think they needed to bring the update with the new area to live version cause this particular update contained the pre order seasonal pass
It lines up with the first update we got in beta
The thing is that I can somehow see the boat
Yes the decorations
Exactly
The boat by the docks
If I go in the water
Where the boat should be
Just little triangles
Floating triangles
In the shape of the boat
It’s hard to explain
I can’t stay much in the water because it’s pure poison
I’m losing a star every 5 seconds
I already lost 10 for this
Oof
Just found that not only the preorder pass and FA, there is one new music sheet(#13) has been added to live
To be honest hacking happened a lot more when a game has Android version
I hope Android doesn’t bring with it more hacking bc that’s gonna suck big time
there's an old cape that looks kinda similar to one of the enchantment capes iirc. I remember my friend wearing a deep red cape that looks a lot like the purple and deep orange asymmetric capes months
What cape? Gratitude red?
Probably. Is it puffy? @random gull
i don't remember D: it had a collar like the current travelling spirit I think
People are crazy to get into FA for infinite mushrooms
They're doing wrong thing and I don't even know how to tell them they are wrong or stop them from doing this, I feel frustrated.
Last time there was an exploit like that, TGC took all the candles away. I think they were even able to take cosmetics back from people
There are codes of conduct in the game, I don't know if they even read it
they arent infinite, those were patched in beta
it only gives 1 candles for each mushroom, so 4 total
still, an exploit
In Live version?
But will the limit reset if player enter FA again?
Oh no 
no
What’s FA?
Forgotten Ark, in short, sorry I'm too lazy to type the whole name
oh
the mushrooms respawn, you can see them, and the gift option will be there, but it wont grant an extra candle
Now I wish I remained in that area
i already knew this since beta
Yeap, dark is right, i tried before
still there, still functional, but hey, 4 candles is better than infinite
you really dont want to stay there, i reset my checkpoint
Why can't I find any mushrooms at the place they are? Well I may've found one but it didnt gimme candle
¯_(ツ)_/¯
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
It's burnt mushrooms :v
Whats the best method to go to ark.. I got there with a chair at best
I am on using just the controls on the phone instead of my controller....boy are they terrible!
I know of 2 shrooms on top the hill in the very back on the left...where are the other 2?
Those of you in live that are exploiting them...be prepared to lose your candles

That ain't cool!
underground, oob, i don't know the exact location tho im a oob noob
oh....I dont think I'll mess with those then
I think its just something cute and fun....
its in the opposing direction to the floating shrooms
very hard to get to without a couplea tables
@late nymph the best method is to wait until you can get there without glitching in
oob or on the border of oob?
oob
well thats what i was going to do 👀 but i was caught in a friend chain
that way you dont risk losing all of your candles or even your account
@kindred fossil got them just time your float
I got the 2 stars too...... If i were to go back there ill just collecting plants... But thats too much hassly
i already got the shrooms, thank you very much
lol
yeah
Yes
Maybe its the weapon of the ark
nah....anything's possible in Sky!
Since wasteland is basically a battlefield
I was thInking that too @late nymph
And that lost ark was attacked by krills
Maybe one day we will get to Catapult krills!
throw the crabs and hunt down krill
LMAO CATAPULTING THE QG
they stay put when you try to sling them
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO GRANNY! It all makes sense now!

OMG
OMG
YOU ARE RIGHT SPIDEY
granny was catapulted and had to swim all the way back to the home island
They catapulted her but didnt have enough power behind it and she got stuck at sea!
she wasn't on vacation, she was swimming for days
lmao!
Lol iron man vibes
she was strong

Granny was a survivor... A man of strength and perseverance
I miss her a lot
"Granny" was a man?
Yes
🤣
Xd
actually we don't really know her true gender
nice save!
or whether they have gender
They wear wigs
welp I gotta split...finishing dailies and candles then start on Easter dinner!
And possibly a golem
she's someone who looks like a grandma to human eyes
nice chatying!
only belonging's QG was canonically granny, the others are whatever you want
Or the boats are possibly from the world of journey
i am now calling all QGs grandma but I thought that was just me (and my sis)
lol
you know, they give us treats every day
i miss the glitch where enchantment QG's model was swapped with rhythm's, he looked like a young prince
Does anyone here know how to get in Forgotten Ark area in Live? I warped to my friend in live today and she was there, I was like omg how are we here!?
friend chain
you get into the ark by teleporting to a friend who teleported to a friend who teleported to a friend who teleported to a friend who...
yeah she probably warped to her friend
and her friend was teleported to another friend, and so on
Well yes of course I know that 😅
no one knows
That's why I'm asking if anyone would know how the first one even got there
either by hacking or complicated glitch methods
I heard somebody said in this chat, that there was a wall over a mountain in Valley or something that was connected to the Forgotten Ark area
beta players can go there in beta without glitching so I guess no one here knows the way
it's better to wait or you won't be as excited as you are now, when the season actually comes
So then the loading zone is in valley if that’s true? Well that’s even more odd lol
I mean tbf it is version 1
it's better to wait or you won't be as excited as you are now, when the season actually comes
@dry pivot thank you, but I think I'm gonna go and try glitching everywhere to get there lmao
Welp
the area’s not even in a finished state. you’ll have a better experience if you wait.
imo that makes it more magical but to each their own
:
I think the first person to enter the ark cheated
After TGC did what it did ,about glitching to the office without the cape being not a thing anymore I think no one can outsmart TGC anymore
I spent a whole day without finding a way to enter the Ark!
I don’t believe there’s a way you can get to the new area and if there is TGC already fixed/is fixing it
Yep
They may have done something to their game
@glass coyote react to the candle 🕯 in #rules so you see all available channels to talk and stuff
Without the founders cape or a friend that has it
You can’t enter anymore
There’s no way of glitching in
I hope to find a way to go in by myself or two people, instead of sending friends
ahh oki
Without the founders cape or a friend that has it
@ dae # 5087 That is very good!
I suppose (?
Hmm,well is fun to glitch inside places not gonna lie
And not everyone has 30 dollars for some pixels
Everyone has their reasons
yep
tbh cheating is a too heavy word if they're just glitching in
Ah don’t worry anyways that’s part of the past now
The office is still only a place for players that have paid
Or have a friend that did
Please don’t generalize an entire group of players. People who are getting into the office aren’t hacking and not all of them are Chinese
What are the changes to the beta
now
yes, try your best to avoid using general terms like Chinese players, Japanese players, American player
What are the changes to the beta
now
you can read the amazing patch notes written by ktjn in #beta-announcements
That also goes for glitchers, not all glitchers have malicious intent
A loophole appeared at the end of the track
Where you can redeem last season ’s items
There is an ancestor
Awesome
i believe tgc is aware of that
tgc is working on it
It's alright KiShi. Not all Chinese are bad.
it's ok, let's move on from that
Jenova on April 2nd
Thank you all for the report! With your info we identified the issue and will fix this hack. Just like what we did with outfit hacking in the past and size hacking now. Please inform your community, items purchased via this spirit hack will be removed when the fix is implemented
That’s in live or beta?
I thought they don’t care about that stuff in beta?
Oh wait what spirit hack?
Is he using “hack” to mean “glitch”?
I don’t think so.
Hacking and glitching are entire different process
They use modifiers to get unavailable items
Ok I thought you were talking about when older seasonal spirits appeared in Orbit
This is very bad behavior
Ok
@muted stirrup soon soon just wait little longer
soon bruh
Hi
Go ahead!
Umm
So I finished playing the game so iam asking what to do next?
._.
I don't want to delete it coz it's super cool
How do you mean you finished it? Beta is a continuous project that gets updates regularly.
I think Ken finished all the levels
You should keep playing
Explore
Get cosmetics
Make new friends
Yes, but beta in particular entails other things also. Although, of course, if you don’t want to test play anymore it’s always ok to leave.
I think they left...?
Yup...
Uhmmmm .....it seems like live and beta are mixing up more and more in this channel🤣
Even the beta screenshot channel is filling up with live pics 😑
Ill take of my shoes first then
They said to put stuff about the season in beta channels
Well yeah because stuff ab the season is beta as it is not out yet
Which area
Ooo
Nvm
That’s normal
Beta hasn’t got the temple anymore 😭
I see the side of the boat if I look at certain angle
It takes you back to the start
I thought it was a nice entry point onto the boat
Can't wait for this event to go live
Yesss me too
I gotta combine crab call with crab walk
Wow
But I accidentally deleted my beta account instead of downloading the live version
I didn’t know you could do both
No I mean that you can do live And beta
You just get the 2 apps
It is
I mean don’t look down on people who glitch and “break the rules”
It’s just something they like to do, there’s nothing wrong with it
At least in my opinion lol
glitching isnt looked down upon generally, as long as its not game breaking
You still should not be in the ark
If you're in live
Other glitching is fine as long as your not somewhere your not supposed to be
Like the ark
And you don't spoil people
Wait what is the ark?
it's a new area that's being officially released when the next season starts. currently still being tested.
How many days are left for the season in beta currently?
42
Ah 👍
With all the discussion about the new area, all the opinions and everything being put out in the last day, I think this is a nice learning experience. Has been for me at least

shrugs in chat
me, 2 seconds later: wait that's a spoiler
I have a question about something in beta. I reported it several times, but only got generic bot responses that didn’t address the issue. Who do I talk to about this?
you ask us
👌
Well... I’ve completed 2 spirits and both have a heart ♥️ as the top node. Shouldn’t I have 2 hearts now?
i believe those give 'seasonal hearts'
they're different from regular hearts
you can use them to unlock ultimate gifts from the quest giver
werent spirit trees reshuffled and that caused some issues
Yes, that’s what I’m talking about. I should have 2 seasonal hearts for completion of 2 s3asonal spirits?
are you asking how to use seasonal hearts, or where they went to
you should
did you buy them?
some people did have a bug where all there seasonal currency got converted to regular currency (as if the season had ended, even though it hadn't)
maybe that happened to you?
I gave the right amount of candles but I still only have one seasonal candle 🕯 not 2 seasonal candles 🕯 🕯
i thought it was seasonal hearts that you're missing. are you missing seasonal candles too?
this is beta and things go bork
season hasn't started in the regular game yet
you pre-order from the shop
Thank you
Levi, sounds like you stumbled into a place that is not meant to be accessible yet
season is not live, and youre not supposed to be at the ark either
run while you still can
🏃
How do I get somebody to notice me and get back my missing heart? 3 messages in game, 3 emails from the app and 2 from helpshift.com—you think someone would have noticed a little midget sky girl by now!
when did you send them tho?
Also, when did you get these seasonal hearts? I was able to get a seasonal heart on the first day of the season, but it converted into a regular heart because of a bug
Everyday for the last week
well tgc is working from home, so it might take longer to get an answer. And yea it could be what mini said too ^^
Each one got a bot response telling me to go to the update pages or FAQ
I know... hate this virus 🤜🏼🦠🤛🏼
Does anyone know how many stars the new area is adding so far? I’ve made a map of the arc area and jotted two stars, unsure if there’s more?
Ahh good, I’m not updating my map officially until the update is released,
The maze isn’t that big when I mapped it, just looks big XD
ikr, I was by myself there so the only way I knew where I was were the crabs I had knocked down already 😆
Can I send you the wip? It’s meant to be a very simplified map, wanna make sure it’s accurate(ish)
where can I catch the red light please?
Lets summon the dog oreo
so wasn't looking forward to catching a red light in the middle of a krills nest
We’re waiting at the summoning

when this season comes out to live
all i want are the masks
so i can match a mask to my lightseekers crab call cape and my umbrella so i look like a mary poppins ninja
Or Mary Poppins when flying in the sky gets a little chilly 
😂
So when the ark does come to live where would the glitched screenshots go? The beta channel or the live one?
in the past we asked people just to spoiler tag new areas for maybe about a week?
just in case anyone was looking to explore for themselves
Mm, sounds good 👍
Guys question
Does beta still keep going for new seasons?
And if so does testing keep opening up to explore for new bugs?
We just answered you in #questions-and-help

Also yes, new things to test means possibly new bugs
What’s the ultimate gift in the new season?
Beta is so quiet right now, anyone playing in sky beta and willing to help me hold hands with them and two other players?
Hey, is there a way to join the beta? Or is it full?
!betafaq
To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements! Give yourself the beta role here by tapping the
in #rules to be notified of important updates.
This command is for informational purposes only and not a replacement for beta slot alerts.
So there has been people going around about a glitch on live that goes to Ark
no word from tgc yet?
not that I've seen yet. It's possible they're leaving it be because the season is coming out some time in April so within the next two weeks








