#beta-discussion
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yes
I don’t think it would be possible to stack this much candles every week
Actually the lightseekers mask was made after the winter ultimate mask. Making them the copycat if anything 
@hollow compass thanks so much! I saw on a video that if you have the winter musician pack on Live, then you automatically get the adventure pass for free. But they were unsure of the items you’d get. I was wondering if that’s true and if so, will we still get all the bonuses and everything?
http://bit.ly/SkyBeta144968 read the patch notes
Please note that those who previously purchased the Winter Season Adventure Pass or the Winter Musician’s Pack will automatically receive the Season of Rhythm Adventure Pass for free.
wether youre getting the bonus 20 candles or not is unknown
See, excellent knowledge bank right here! 
wow 10 weeks? thats very long
What happened to the ultimate reward mask? Are we not getting it anymore
It looked so cool
I logged on this morn at 2:53a.m. est and managed to get all 4 daily quests and candle bunches with 5 minutes left before reset!
what ultimate reward mask?
I havent seen it on my game
Click on the spirit there should be two options
You click on the snowflake to see it
So will the travelling spirits only be available during the winter season? Or are they thinking of making it a permanent addition to the game?
A permanent addition
What are people calling the wasteland emote?
Respect
Yeah, I was going to say honour salute something. Respect sounds good.
That works. Thanks
He’s kneeling with his hand on his heart.
It was called respect back in beta. It’s a fitting name tbh
I forgot.
a shorter name would be f
It’s easy to forget.. it’s the least used emote from winter imo 
I think I used it quite a lot instead of bow.
yeahh i didnt really know it existed until now
I can see strangers again I’m so happyyyy 
I’ve been seeing photos of the “no cape” recently, but when checking the game, I couldn’t find anything. Is it real? And if it is, where can I find it?
Please and Thank you
There’s a no cape added into Sky Beta which you can get for the low low price of 999 hearts
There’s also a no cape glitch you can do in live, which requires a friend with warp
Wasnt the fox mask like exclusive to the pass in graatitude i wonder if the red bunny would be worth alot of candles
@kindred fossil @hollow compass thank you both so much! Help much appreciated.
The traveling spirits are coming with cosmetics that used to be exclusive and are now worth lots od candles right?
I think its curtsy? Though I looked up the definition and it doesn’t look like a curtsy tbh
Yeah that’s curtsy
Ahh Thank ya
i am so happy matchmaking is working. i can see everyone everywhere! it feels “full” (or as full as beta can get) again!
Hooray!! Yeah I feel the same way!! I got online this morning ant it was full of kiddos
ooh ok thank you giccix and yahri
also yeah beta doesn’t feel like that much of a ghost town anymore
Hey guys quick question re: "Something for the player that has Everything" - Is the theory right now that for 999 Hearts, 99 Ascended Candles, and having unlocked all elders = capeless? I've completed the game a few months back but still am not even close to 999 hearts. Do they ever change prices in Beta often before live launch? Thanks all. I've been searching in the discord. as well as other Sky related discords, but am having trouble finding out for sure.
Nothing in beta is final
oh, I just played music sheet number 2 and whoa, the memories it brought back!
I think it may be eden crown 😳
It would make sense, once you finish all the constellations of all the kingdoms you move on to the 6th kingdom: eden
I'm pretty sure the 999 price is a place holder too, because if it really was 999 then it would be impossible to complete forest as a constellation.
It is
It's already been confirmed as a placeholder.
Also the crown as end game goal I’d like much better than invisible cape imo
did I dream there were two instruments this season?
I have a question, as I want to join beta testing, I have already been given this role and can access channels, but I am not sure how to het into the beta of the game (IOS)
The iOS and Android betas are full at the moment, @winter fiber. To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements! Give yourself the beta role here by tapping the
in #old-𝚛ules to be notified of important updates.
Oh, ok
Thanks sky bot ^^^
@hollow compass there is at least two instruments in this season 
not counting possible ultimate piano
I just got the marimba-ish one
and shouldn't there be one more music sheet also?
gah, we need a proper table of content 🧐
o I thought it was a xylophone
Im shook to be able to actually do vault in beta and not feel like I’m the last person in Sky to ever live
last mans sky
No other kids sky
Maybe it is a xylophone?
Has anybody come across players with flames coming out of their heads? I could attach an image... it was super weird
Xylophone? Marimba? Glockenspiel? Will find out once we hear how it plays 😂
I have a hunch it might a higher octave instrument, very much like the Winter Pack piano... if that is the case it could be a xylophone
Anyone remember how much candles the orange kinda long cape in season of gratitude was? They probably might change the number of candles.
Definitely will
The orange was pass exclusive I think, and since the traveling spirit items are purchased with in game currencies, they will bump up traveling spirit price
Oof
I want the red bunny mask so bad but i dont wana risk it cause it might not be going in order in season of gratitude spirits


The gratitude cape wasn’t bought via candles. It’s been a while so idk what was pass exclusive anymore but pretty sure this was one. It might have costed a few hearts? But the currency will be different as xynth said bc it’s open for free.
We’re not sure what the next spirit will be so save up for what you want
I’m not too crazy about the other gratitude masks since I have what I want
Noice
I just want to at least have one of the capes
I love how long and fluffy they are 
If it’s anything like the weasel mask, it’ll be mostly candles and less than a handful of ascended
Yeah they’re nice
Some people call it cat, some people call it fox. Officially it’s weasel. It was a mask that you could get during the gratitude season.
nice
Does anyone know what the Gratitude mask with the tiny horns and like 4 eyes was?
I don’t recall anything with four eyes....
What—-
Gonna log on and check anyways
Ohhh it has a tiny second set
Oh samurai emote lOL
hahaha
I think those were always covered by hair for me lol
Maybe an oni
I had an idea for a season that could be tested in Beta. the cosmetics would be the coolest things to exist (in my humble opinion) so like an Egyptian season? and masks could be like the animal gods and hairs would be like the big things they wore and then the capes would all be cool and the season pendant could be like an ankh or something
Aww weasel isn’t in the wiki banner for season of gratitude...
@junior sage #wishlist-and-ideas-archived!
oops im new to discord
It’s ok! This server just has a place for ideas people have and want to share!
that'd be pretty lit 👌
sky kids gonna become miniature sun gods
yes
im writing a short book to send to the devs of my ideas
i have 29 pages so far :0
Woaaaa
a novel
a novel 😂
aaaa i didnt try to do tht emoji
why it autocorrect
😂
IT DID IT AGA-
:' )
there we go
Go to your text and image settings to turn that off
I’m so glad that some of the pants are free bc the main reason I bought the lightseeker pass was bc I thought that the turtleneck cape would fit nicely with the winter pants
Good planning
Is it still possible to be separated when going through a portal because you were at the end of a chain that doesn’t fit through it?
Yes.
Is the second traveling spirit out yet?
i feel like the dragon mask could be one of the traveling spirits due to the guide
it features the dragon mask spirit
Traveling spirits come during weekend
^^^
Hi
I really hope we get the dragon mask as a travelling spirit
We will see what they do in beta 😬
Maybe they add all the others masks in a pack and that’s the one they putting in the store
XD
Who knows
You mean like what they did with the winter hair and piano?
i hope there would be some indication as to what spirit will arrive next
or at least say in which area the spirit is found
“Gratitude mask pack added to the store”
Well ... if this weekend the spirit is the one from gratitude prairie
They’d do it in order
If not maybe they do that (say which one is next )
Lol not everyone knows the order tho
Or which spirit is from which area eh
I mean yeah there’s the wiki but eh
I wish there was a precautionary to save up candles
Reading the ToS, because bored, and something interesting... Under How We Use the Information We Collect
...to provide in-Game leaderboards...
Thoughts?
It must be something they considered about at some point for it to be mentioned
If i remember correctly iOS game center has or had some achievements. Not quite sure
BTW, actually a well written ToS
Ohhh. Thats a good point Em
I still believe it is there, but since it was centered around starting the game i can’t remember if it made its way into global 
There was ingame social achievements, https://youtu.be/bQTH0bLyvh4
At 8hours40mins
Those didn’t work like 90% of the time
I remember in softlaunch it would never let me go to the next tier of achievements
And then they removed it

Ah true. I think i got it once or twice. I think one of them was for completing Isle and making friends for the first time? 
I really like that the game doesn’t really tell u where the wandering spirit is ,is a challenge,like a hard quest to do ... why would some players want to know where it is that easy ? :”/ that nerfs the intention
On the topic of wandering spirits, what are the price trees looking like for them so far?
Bottom 5 candles (blessing) left 25 candles the hat , 3 candles a heart
2 Ascended candles
Another 5 candle blessing
And the fox cat weasel mask
Is 50
only one traveling spirit had appeared so far so can’t rlly make a general statement for all of them but it’s looks like a regular spirit tree/shop. daesparks described it above me ^
I’m ready to buy all their hearts lol
I’ve done every season and have all the items but I’ll never say no to an extra heart per week
Wait no the heart was lower in the tree than the blessing wasn’t it
Maybe not
Am I going crazy
it’s spell-> heart and hair on the sides -> ascended candles -> spell - fox mask
I’ve completed the candle portions of every constellation so
Oh so yeah u need the spell first
to b sure, some ppl have posted a chart in screenshots
Does anyone know what gonna happen to live since on live I have the final reward? 🤔
u mean u bought the musicians pack?
Ya
Oh crap, is the wandering spirit this weekend?
You get a free pass
Rlly? 😮
well i know definitely is that you will get the pass w/out buying it but i don’t know if it’ll take away the piano from you or not
I like my piano pls don’t take it away lol
But we don’t know either if u will get the 20 extra seasonal candles
True true
if u don’t get extra 20, that’s kinda dumb
I think they should cuz the pack is more expensive than a pass anyway
Yeah music pack is much more expensive than seasonal pass after all
exactly
They should but they haven’t talk about it
Well ... some players bought it knowing winter season was coming back .. TGC didn’t tell y’all to get it
XD
Lol I think the extra extra you get is that you get to keep 4 extra hearts at the end of the season
Since you don’t buy the piano
True
And some amount of extra candles too? I assume you don’t have to rebuy the hair as well?
eh
;-; double the same hair
Or will it you never know 👀
The assumption is that the wandering spirits will show up on live at the same time as the season I believe
Exactly :”v
So if the season does start on the 23rd the first spirit would be there like 25-26?
Cuz it’s there only during weekends?
Yeah
Though on beta I think it’s ridiculous amount for the none cape cosmetic :V
Only weekends
I do agree
oh man oh man i’m so excited to buy the fox mask on live
I don’t think is gonna be that price
We hope
The invisible cape isn’t supposed to be easy to get, and it’s not supposed to be for normal players
I put all my thoughts on that in feedback already lol
Not too hard
Oh I know, I just think there has to be a better way to denote a final item
XD
Than grinding
10 days of grinding
Agreed
U get 50 hearts
the double heart event will last for 3 days so maybe that can help with getting black or white !!
If only they add a spirit that you can buy a lot of hearts from
I think they made invisible cape for people who already got everything
;-; lucky ppl
Yeah at my most active I was getting 5-6 hearts a day... now it’s more like 2-3 but it’s fine
But do we need to unlock invisible cape to get that elder hair tho?
I’m 99% sure that location for purchasing it isn’t final
Though yesterday I was sending my friends a bunch of hearts on live bc idk how much the no cape will cost on live 😅😭
I got everything and I stopped grinding ... like not everyone would keep grinding just because xD
Who knew something else was gonna be added
@wind dawn Ktjn said something earlier about it's place in the tree being a placeholder, so I seriously doubt it will stay there, or that it will affect getting the elder hair
They wouldn’t add a spirit to let you repeatedly buy hearts from because that’ll enable people to buy their way to get every cosmetic by spending real money
Whether or not the price is final, it seemed from ktjn’s message that the npc selling it is definitely not final
Darn ;-;
The traveling spirit lets you buy one heart so that’s one more heart a week you’d usually get
Thanks
I do like that the traveling spirit sells a heart... but I also like that even that is only one extra per week
Can’t buy your way through it
I sorta stopped grinding
I mean u don’t gotta grind the whole 15 a day ,with 9 a day u get 3 hearts daily
I’m taking a break from grinding cuz I got all those converted candles lol
That’s a good amount
I stopped grinding after getting 1 elder hair
You shouldn’t really be grinding to get every cosmetic
Lol
It’s supposed to be a long ride
It’s like animal crossing where you just do a little and see the results long term
There’s nothing else to do but grinding tho
But I’ll return to grinding after those run out ahaha
True
It’s a social game
it be a journey
Friend everyone on the game?
I enjoy what most people think of as grinding tho
I spend most of my time just hanging out with my friends and doing silly things
And most the time with friends we grind
Just chill and take it slow
Also my grinding is my social time lol
Lol
I do both ,I grind in 1 hour when my friends are not online and the rest i spend with friends the rest of my time
Literally I’ve played this game for a year and a half now and I felt no need to get every cosmetic
I only started working toward that after global launch
My friends know I love wax collecting so they see me and grab on
There’s no need to get em all
But when u get em all u just concentrate on seasons ,that’s what I think
I felt better playing like that
i mean some people just play for the seasons regardless whether they completed constellations or not
I wanted the elders xD
Mhm I’m done with 3.5/6 constellations and after I am done I’m still gonna wax collect at least a little per day because I like to carry my friends through the worlds
most time efficient to do what?
Getting wax
Valley > Forest > Prairie > Wasteland > Vault > Isle
... i usually kinda get 2 from prairie 3 from forest - 4ish with new area ,4 from valley ,3-4 from wasteland ,1-2 from vault
Except on Sundays wasteland is higher
Sunday is the one day a week that wasteland has like 150% as much wax as usual
Also, wherever the bunches are. That makes a huge difference
I usually only do forest, valley and wasteland
I think 4 bunches are two candles
And 8 ppl puzzle if i have time
Also , I think daily missions gives u 2 candles
I hate that another spirit is going to be in wasteland

Daily missions should give... 3? I believe
each daily mission gives 3/4 of a full candle
Between seasons
I don’t approve
I remember I didn’t want to do the gratitude spirit from wasteland
But a friend made me
at least upcoming wasteland spirit isn’t as bad as the one in belonging lol
I was krill bait for gratitude, I was not yet skilled enough with my control to carry the thing
Same xD
I think gratitude was hardest tbh
Such an enclosed space with the krill RIGHT THERE
i think we can all agree that seasonal wasteland spirits are the most hectic and chaotic regardless whether its a carry or not
I never had problems with the others
There was enough place to hide I think
I don’t even remember well xD
Let’s see when it comes back
LOL YOURE RIGHT
I totally forgot you have to actually unlock the spirit for the wandering thing
That’s gonna be a crazy weekend
Imma get out my popcorn
Yep
XD
Well ... maybe if we have it ... we don’t need to look for it?
....
Makes sense
?
I have it and all it’s items already so I have no need to look for it
But I’m gonna have fun watching others
I started august 20th and got the pass like a week before it ended
Can someone explain the traveling spirit? I went on a hiatus and came back and I haven't seen this yet
A past seasonal spirit will show up every weekend and will give you the change to get their emote and upgrade them to get the seasonal cosmetics
You’ll need regular candles and ascended candles for them
No seasonal currency is used for them
Only in beta so far^^
Oh sweet
Can you only upgrade them after the weekend is over or just for the weekend?
Just for the weekend
Okay cool
Seraph too fest 
But you can get stock up on candles and hearts beforehand

Wait can they still need hearts?
No
They said ,hearts and candles
They said both currencies will be used for wandering spirits
Welp not that I need them haha
I do need them in beta tho but live nah. Time for me to hoard

Are the spirits going to show up every weekend? It'll be much easier to keep up with if they're a special event.
Every weekend is the plan
Yes every weekend
It’s gonna stay for every weekend
A Different spirit will show up every weekend
Like is not an event ,is something that is gonna stay
Whether they’ll return as weekend spirits after they appear once, idk
They gotta recycle eventually lol
Yeee
Well on the spirit shop says hey won’t be back for a long time
So they will recycle i think
Technically if every past spirit will recycle once it’ll take a while before they come back
That’s to not have you assume they’ll come back like next week or smth
I think it’s more aimed towards people who already did the spirit but couldn’t get the cosmetics and newbies who didn’t get it but now has the chance to get that emote
But might not be able to afford the cosmetics
sorry to crash into the conversation like this but that’s very relieving to hear that—
Where are seasonal candles today?
Yeah
... wasteland
Wasteland
Quests in vault though!
It’s wherever the quest giver is standing
Thanks 😘
I better not see complaints if it’ll recycle lol
... the other seasons was different but now the red bunches and the seasonal candles are on the same level
Yee
It’s bugged
I thought it was
Well, the red candles don’t really pay attention to the spirit
The red candles skip entire levels sometimes
Does anyone know the difference between the piano and the ultimate prize piano?
But the quests are bugged and should be based where the quest giver is standing
The winter piano is a different octave
The white piano is higher pitched
Oh ok thanks
Season of pants
yes

That’s the juggling I think
fur
Valley
Valley I think
And u need to wait four weeks to at least try to get it ^^'
We don’t know what order the spirits will appear in
Oh i hope it starts from vault
bdvdvdh season of pants
The best season
Rhythm's new pants suit for spirits, they are performers
@spark lance seasonal hearts cost 3 seasonal candles, one per spirit of the season, or at least season of belonging was like that
@gaunt oak pinned message will you help what we should post
@worn hollow check the above#beta-screenshots-videos , there are useful photo
Looks like pants change the entire look of both upper and bottom garments, I was wondering if they'd make a separate one for the upper body
does anybody know where in wasteland the candles are today?? me and my friend can’t find them anywhere 🥺😭
Look for @lunar zealot post in #beta-screenshots-videos few screens up
thank you so much!!
How do I get the trader to appear at home? I’ve seen people have him, but I don’t
Do you play the beta version?
I’m sorry I’m late in the screenshot
But
If that flaming hair was a cosmetic
It would be
Fire
I’ll show myself out
Ghost flyder, baby
Wait so is capeless going to be a part of the season?
the cosmetic is on the whale call spirit from the forest constellation atm
Oh sweet! Somebody told me it was the reward for completing all the constellations and I was worried for a moment
I should probably make this a pinned post:
Aw dang it
The Whale Call Spirit Shop is sometimes used as a placeholder location where we test items on beta that may or may not be related to Seasonal content. It will not have any impact on completing a zone's Constellation nor impede your ability to achieve the Hidden Forest Ultimate Gift in the Live version of the game.
The invisible cape has been moved to a new location and is no longer on the Hidden Forest constellation. The price is not a placeholder. It's not meant to be something every player gets. It's not an Ultimate Ultimate gift for completing every constellation. It is meant to be a deliberately difficult item for those that really want to be capeless.
** The price is not a placeholder. ** It's meant to be a silly item and prohibitively expensive, which is why it costs 999 Hearts. For the time being, it exists only in Beta as we develop long term goal features, but may eventually go to Live.
Reminder that Everything in Beta Is Subject to Change Before Making it's Way into the Live Game
thank you for the clarification!!
At least I’m cleared up now! Still have a lot of work to do though
so many people have panicked
It looks so cool, I can’t wait until I’m able to get it!
Apologies for being quiet, I've been busy gathering feedback so that I can bring it to the development team and there has been A Lot of feedback.
(which is good!)
it'll be a long time but i'm excited to see where it's progress
oh yeah i have never seen so much feedback
i wish i could help take the load off a bit 
Same here

It means a lot that this company takes the feedback of its players
Tgc is a godsend
one day i'll apply for tgc if i'm lucky. this game and company is what sold me on doing game design and development for a career🥺 and also who wouldn't want to be a part of such a loving community
so, do we yet know, if you gather all the regular candles every day from now until the end of the season, if it'd be theoretically possible to unlock everything from all the traveling spirits? and do we know what all the traveling spirits are yet?
we know only about the first one
but idk about the number of candles either
i would say start asap to get what you need just in case
i've already got ~115 candles, and the time/will to grind everyday, so im looking forward to the rest of them. thanks!!
And what about the travelers needing ascended candles? Y'all think that'll go to live as it is? I've got my nine stars there and would like to not have to go to Eden again. EVER. 😂
Where are the seasonal candles? Ahh never mind...
@spark lance I'm certain that'll end up in live, these are past seasonal items after all, of course they're going to be expensive
plus you should probably be visiting eden regularly anyway so you can upgrade friendship trees 
I kinda like having a reason to do eden more often
like what else am i gonna spend 130+ of those on other than friendships
if eden was shorter near the end, I wouldn’t mind the grind sooo much
@proven snow noooooo 😭
ngl eden is rather easy to go through and farm once you do it enough times, it's certainly faster than a full wax run of all the levels
Though hopefully they remove the wings from the lock or something. people keep thinking its gonna give a buff
hi guys
I meant all the cutscenes 
plus was eden changed in this patch at all?
||since the red rocks remove your light even when your not near them??||
@tawny prairie ||the red crystals are meant to do that||
when your not near them?
the only edit to eden was Fixed crash occurring at the final sequence in Eye of Eden
@proven snow good point but still.. 😄
@tawny prairie let's hope they at least do that.
I don’t have this issue in live?
It does that
could be to make it more difficult?
i did lol
if youve noticed it being harder to avoid
how far away are they while ||sucking away your light||?
draw a picture!
<————————>
omg
skykids as in from toe to head?
two kids lying down?
that’s why I’m asking, wasn’t sure if they upped the difficulty 
@tawny prairie ||are you talking about the large rocks or the small rocks, because the small ones also drain your light ||
There hasn’t been any changes to eden
hi i think i sort of need help on some math
ye
could be a bug then, it doesnt seem like they should be doing that and i didnt have that issue
with them exploding that far
@verbal gate hi Fox!
made my run faster , thanks guys tho 
hiya
theyre just ultra sensitive w love
how many candles can you get on one candle run (not going to wastland)
lol love 
um i get close to ten ? (but that’s with red bundles) . Your asking about normal candles or this season?
yep
I really wish the season could come to live earlier but also my live account can’t afford so many candles
@mint ruin fun fact, you don't need to finish a level to reset it, in the live system (and current beta system excluding the portal gates automatically resetting things now), all it requires is going into another level, like returning home and entering a different world before returning to the original one you wanted to reset
yup, the travelling spirits only hang around for two days each
they only stay for the weekends i believe

for now i wait for the crab call spirit to come back to annoy everybody
Will the traveling spirits only stay for 2 days in live? Or is that uncertain?
Only the weekends
An instrument that I think would be a cool idea in the future.... a violin 🎻
i have a question...
soo we are not able to post anything from the beta ? like youtube vid or say in Line/Whattsapp group?
You can post whatever outside of discord, we just ask for people to not talk about beta outside of the beta channels here
my friend said that he is having some trouble on twitter because he shared information reguarding the beta version , soo is it fine then?
Yes it’s fine
thank you :3
People might get mad because they got spoiled but they shouldn’t be in trouble from like the developers
checked pinned, wasnt the whale call also a placeholder for an umbrella as well? i remember something about that
yes it was
I saw some people getting it before devs removed it from the spirit shop, because it was 25 hearts or so
i wonder why the whale call spirit in particular 
he does not have any cosmetics in his shop
oh, ive never noticed,
At first he was going to get his own umbrella when lightseeker season was around in beta, but that didn’t happen
I am hoping that they priced the invisible cape 999 this time only to make sure no one in beta gets it and to make it obvious it's a placeholder
yeah, poor whale guy didn’t get anything, only his call and song
Well ok maybe the
spirit as well
rip whale call and 
😔
mochi i would sure hope so 
do yall know how much the spell costs. the one for wandering spirits after you pay with ascended
5 normal candles
ty
Update! 

uPDATE?


Returned celebrate particles to old movement’

kjhKDFJKJDJKFKLDFK
I never noticed the new movement
confetti i assume
pffftt
I made a comparison in my bug report KJdfjkjdf
it was funny
and something about buying passes?
was it thatttt much slower haha
my beta kid doesn’t have the emote
the IAP shop looks empty
yup shop still empty
Beta shop probably just empty
Am I too sleepy to understand the the first patch note or
i JUST got the notif for the update
I’m wondering if that means we can gift without buying ourselves a pass
...honestly was hoping there would be a seasonal candle pack in shop 
People who automatically receive adventure pass can gift pass to friends
maybe
Maybe we can gift pass codes now?
it would be a smart move since people will be getting the pass for free and would probably still wanna gift to others
shop is empty in beta, so we can't confirm…
maybe we can gift more than 3 passes
before we were unable to gift 3 or more passes even when we were willing to pay extra money to do so
but the store is empty so I am not sure if this update is solving that kind of issue
Juggle emote lvl 3&4 same?
4 makes it snow
I don’t see a difference
its a bit hard to notice, yes
around your character? when you use juggle lvl4 it starts to snow, looks like rain in a way though
Nothing new in the office if anyone’s wondering
Someone can help me get the seasonal vault spirit, along with sitting with a stranger quest? Just @ me thanks :)
lmao the no cape cosmetic is 999 hearts
We think that’s gotta be a placeholder
pinned says whale call spirit's a cosmetic placeholder
I suppose I should say “hope”
Does the wandering spirit with the fox mask come this weekend in live ?
we don't know
Oh okay
So I have been able to “purchase” several additional adventure passes for friends in the shop. I’m not sure I understand what I’m doing.
Quick question: where’s the seasonal candles in wasteland? I’m not going to try and waste my winged lights and ended up getting caught by krills
The spirit shop location for the invisible cape is a placeholder, it will not impact your ability to complete the Hidden Forest constellation or receive its Ultimate Gift. The price is not a placeholder. It's not meant to be something every player gets. It's not an Ultimate Ultimate gift for completing every constellation. It is meant to be a deliberately difficult item for those that really want to be capeless.
See #beta-screenshots-videos theres been pictures posted 
Mm okay thanks
thank you for the clarification ktjn!
XeroZZ they are near the seasonal spirit in wasteland.
Thank you Ktjn! Also congratulations on community manager(?) 
I've always been a community manager, haha, I just never updated my display name >_>
I second this
There's a plan for one, it hasn't been implemented.
Oh haha. I guess it was just unusual too see 
We're a small company, I wear a lot of hats but Community is my most defined role, I suppose. 
True.
now I'm just imagining you with like 3 hats stacked on your head
YEAH. Or 5... maybe 10? 
Is anyone else seeing the option to “purchase” AP to share?
In the shop. I have no idea what I’m going to do with them.
I’m not seeing it atm. I assume because it’s beta
it's a little redundant in beta since the AP is free, but we still need to test that "buying" the item works correctly since it's a new functionality.
haha, fabulous!
So the invisible is not the ultimate gift for those who have everything as it it mentioned in the patch notes?
Ktjn it looks like purchasing them unlocked some season content that I hadn’t purchased with candles. Is that supposed to happen?
it's intentionally vague in the patch notes but we wanted to encourage people to look for a new item.
For completing everything
oh lmao the new icon for the friend pass does seem to off set the star count but otherwise it looks like it's working
what seasonal content did it unlock?
Oo. I have to go see then
I think we moved some items around on the seasonal spirit shops, so that might be related depending on what you already had unlocked.
items of isle, prairie and forest were changed the order
O i see the bug. Heading over to post in screenshots Ktjn
Logging on to mess with it now
if it's a bug, please post it in a bug report, screenshots moves fast and things get lost.
That might be it Ktjn. Some things might have been moved around .
I assume it is, ill do it when I’ve got the time. 
Yea I had kiss emote stuff unlocking even though I didn’t buy. think it might be because of moving
looks like it
I unlocked the hair for one and suddenly I got the pants but the level 3 is still locked but it looks like I can get the heart too.
Is the new season out for beta?
Yes
The order changed
Do I need to complete the story first to see the content?
yeah that sounds like what happened, LadyJ, thanks for bringing it to our attention!
Ah yeah it did change.
It doesn’t look like it’s going to impact the play of the season either
Naw, it's not so much a bug as a result of some changes that'll fix itself, so to speak, once you unlock the rest of the tree.
Season got accelerated i guess 
It’s a bit of an unusual situation, but ok I guess.
Not totally game breaking
I will miss when that pants was lower in the tree though
Byproduct of beta is things get wonky, but if let's say the result of that change caused the UI to break or you to crash then that would be worth reporting. Beta things are always subject to change, we almost always move items around during beta.
I am unable to view the season in beta. I assume this is because I have not completed the story in beta?
Very true. Everything is tentative, this is a first i’ve seen so much moved around though.
Thx Ktjn. I’ll keep that in mind.
For example, during Lightseekers we had the umbrellas in more easily obtainable locations so that we could get the umbrellas in players' hands sooner so that we could make sure the umbrella was working correctly (spoilers, it wasn't). Hopefully that helps explain why/how these things happen?
I’m not angry about it. Just remarking
Just up through forest
I see the daily spirit challenges outside of vault but no constellation or anything
You don't have to complete the whole game but you do have to play up to a certain point to see AP content, it's kind of a precautionary measure so that people don't buy a pass before they understand the game mechanics or had enough exposure to ensure that it's something they want to spend money on.
ah, you'll need to find one of the spirits out in the world to make the constellation appear.
Awesome thank you so much for the response!!
once you see the constellation, there should be the seasonal icon in the bottom left corner, tap on that and it should open up the seasonal guide which will show the pass prices and if you tap that it'll take you to the IAP store.
if downloads are failing, is there something i should do?
- Submit a bug report.
- Make sure you're on a stable internet connection.
- Turn your device completely on and off (not just a restart).
if that doesn't solve it:
4a. make sure your account is linked to google or Game Center.
4b.You may need to do a full uninstall/reinstall and power off/on cycle. - If it persists, let me know and I'll flag it up to QA to investigate.
Download issues is something we're trying to fix and while some fixes are working for many players, some aren't.
wack, thank you ktjn!!!!!
@fair current there's no need to repost in multiple channels, i'll reply in #beta-discussion-android
oki thx
Hi, how many traveling spirits will there be along the season?
Not sure. We’ll have to wait and see. It’s something fun about discovering as we go 
I meant the ones that weren’t gonna be there the whole season @fair current 😊
hmmm🤔
oh, the music sheet for Isle spirit moved down!
nice, I was wondering where it was earlier
but wait, I think I already unlocked the kissing emotes music sheet (n 2?)
er...are there three music sheets?
i am so confused right now
Some stuff got moved with this update. Haven’t taken a good look but some masks were moved. I think so for music sheets as well?
the white cape is unlocked high up in the tree for me, even though I have only unlocked one level for the thinking emote
That’s odd...
We're still tinkering with the specifics on the traveling spirits, so I don't have exact information. Once I know more we'll communicate that via patch notes and across social channels. We're listening to feedback on this feature.
the other cape also looks unlocked
usually items are grey, right?
both capes are visible in their real colours
ok, it's too early in the morning, I should have more coffee 
you know which spirit to relieve today?
it's probably due to things moving around in the spirit shops, i'll go update my post in beta updates for visibility.
3rd
Okie
there is only one stance in Vault, to the best of my knowledge
arent capes usually colored on all constellations
yeah, suddenly I am unsure?
My season of belonging emotes vanished 😱
Check your closet to see if you have it unlocked?
I thought they were at least 
But i made a report
@torn gust you mean if I unlocked that cape? no, I haven't gotten that far yet with that spirit
but
the camera spirit fix
can we go revisit spirits again? or only with people who havent done them? I cant remember what the change for that was
camera spirit fix finally! (except I won't be able to experience it, because we can't relive anything...sob)
capes are their color until you unlock them, then they turn gold like the rest of the spirit shop UI.
apparently, some people were confused about spirits being relived so everyone else had to also have them locked -_-
ohh
thats why they removed it
that makes sense
its annoying for beta reasons tho
I wanna go test it
I'm still championing for some kind of compromise on that (I make zero promises but I am trying) but coming to a solution that lets veterans who want to relive the spirits while also ensuring people aren't activating the spirits unintentionally isn't an easy solution and may take time to implement. I'll repeat, I make no promises, but I am trying.
yeah its completely understandable, take your time and hopefully come to a good solution
thankyou tho
If I find a bug on live, but it's not on beta, should I still report it?
Then you can report it in #report-a-live-bug
as in, the bug is not present on beta
it's ok, although I still don't understand what the harm is in "unintentionally activating a spirit"
@honest folio if it's not in beta you report it for the live version
Hmm, clarity for new players i guess and how they experience the game?
there was a lot of people coming in wondering if they did some thing wrong regarding that feature iirc
then perhaps work on clarification instead of removing a desired feature that many people liked
There was a mix of issues. players who already received the expression were starting the spirit quest and abandoning them once they realized they didn't want to re-do the quest. People activating them thinking the little light gathered counted toward their candle count (it didn't) and intentionally abandoning them. Players repeating them and complaining about not getting anything from it other than wasted time or reporting it as a bug.
that's why it was turned off is so we can work on better communication/clarification.
We made the change due to player feedback, but it created more problems than it solved and that is why we're working on making it a better experience for everyone.
Makes sense.
It genuinely hurts when players assume we do something or revert a change out of malice or trying to ruin players' fun. We have a standard for the player experience, new and veteran, that we try to adhere to and if something doesn't meet that standard, we aim to fix it. However, it may take some time to reach the desired effect.
I suppose as a seasoned player I sometimes take for granted that everyone remembers which spirit they have released and which ones they haven't.
And for clarity I did not assume you did it out of malice. I just didn't understand how it could be confusing.
Logically, it would be rather counterproductive for a gaming company to implement new features only to annoy their players... 😉
Also, this server is probably only a small part of the whole community and so we don't always see what "everyone else" is reporting in game.
Sorry if i made it seem like that was specifically directed at you, that was more of a blanket statement for the kinds of emotionally charged responses we've received about it, our team pours our heart and soul into creating good experiences and sometimes we mess up, but we try to own it and make it even better...even if it takes a little while. 
No problem! We know, that's why we also are so emotional sometimes. 😄
I mean, I cry when the seasonal spirits wave goodbye at the end cut scene.
it's really nice to have so much communication from developers tbh, I really appreciate everything the team does
It was also very emotional for me when ||I was able to call down all the elders in Eden||
yeah, ive never had so much communication with developers
its amazing
You can tell there is heart in the game.
For sure, and it's not your responsibility to think of how things impact every player, it's my job to dig deeper into the passionate responses and uncover what's the heart of the problem and bring that feedback to the designers. I have the tools to look at hard data and see feedback from all corners of the internet. When all of that is put together it can sometimes paint a completely different picture than what me might see here on only discord.
The rumors are true? The capless cosmetic is truly gonna be 999 hearts? xD
"Nothing in beta is set in stone", an old saying.
It's not a rumor, I stated that clearly the day y'all found it, but chat gets buried real fast sometimes.
Well imma climb that mountain, no matter how steep the climb is.
Eeheee
Sometimes I just like noticed it but ignored it but not really ignoring it
I’m mostly get interested at new cosmetics and stuff added
and belpita is right, nothing in beta is set in stone, it could change, but operating on the information i have right now that is the official status.
Indeed :)
daw, you got my username joke! 
me over how crazy awesome this community is at times
Near
Is your name a death note reference?
No @spark lance
oh, lol
we really know nothing about future content, unless it's in a patch note
Automatic friending
I meant no in reference to @hollow compass
You are a yes
A very big yes
Big
💜
You don't want to know how long it took me to realize your name, I was thinking "hmm, I haven't seen them in a while, I wonder where they went
" and then it hit me. you'd been here the whole time, right under my nose! 
lol, I'm sneaky that way
hiding in plain sight
I adore it, haha.
maybe I should change it back
where is the shy emote when you need it
:emote_shy_27:
I can see the code
👀
The Visiting Spirit is still under development so I don't have all the answers about it right now. I believe we're only bringing cosmetics that were on the individual Spirit Shops back.
haha I borrowed it from Tara's discord server courtesy of Nitro >_>
im glad theyre coming back since even though i got what i want from gratitude, i still didnt get the other masks 
the high prices make sense too
oh yeah now that I think about it
will you guys ever add an animated server icon?
animated server icon would be cute but i could see why they wouldnt have one

I think it depends on how promoted your server is also
@vapid briar we don’t expect even the mighty fox mod to have perfect information. The information and contact you provide your subjects is blessing enough:3
💜
the server’s promoted enough for animated icons
its the first tier is all
I just thought it would be cute to have one flying in the sky
now you're just making me blush, lol. 
I have to agree with TheGravesGuard, 1000% 
the animated emotes take a fair bit more time to make look good and scale. Pines tends to make emotes when she has free time and we keep her pretty busy making cool stuff for everyone, not just the discord server.
pines go sneep
Pines— you’re not allowed to overwork yourself ya hear me
ears burning much? 

no overworking allowed in my house 
It was the constant sneezing that alerted me actually, Ktjn
or whatever folklore there is for that stuff
Ah yes. The sneezing when someone talks about you 
Does it count as overworking if i'm here in my free time cuz i like y'all that much?
Ok im gone 

💨
ahh nah of course
thats alright
Yes Go sneep
it’s late for the both of you 
go sneep ktjn 
OH NO THE TABLES HAVE TURNED!
ノ┬─┬ノ ︵ ( \o°o)\
What even is that Ansolas 
I love that
Oh how the turn tables
That being said tho— I should get back to work. 
why has it taken me so long to notice that
is a perfect OBJECTION! emote
but nah youre all great
have a cute sleep/work time
Thank you all for chatting, listening, giving feedback and being genuinely delightful. This community is amazing because you all make it amazing together. 
And with that, I go sneep.
thank you so much and sneep well
Hello! If I’m not sure if something is a bug, should I still report it? 
Yes! If it’s something impacting your experience it’s worth reporting, and TGC can determine if it’s a bug or not (or at least, have the feedback players might think it’s a bug if it’s not)
You can always ask and get clarification here as well
@drifting vapor both two capes are required adventure pass now
Oh ok
I believe it’s possible given the patch notes on traveling spirits:
Please note the currency costs will be different from their original season appearance, and details such as pricing and Spirit schedule are subject to change during the Beta. Shop items will use regular Candle, Heart, and Ascended Candle currencies to obtain.
Thank you, Mirian! 
this next season has me m e s s e d up
Just curious... did anyone find 8 seasonal candle bundles in Vault today? A friend and I was only able to find 7 🙈
I also only found 7 🥺
There's a candle nearby the puzzle door when it ooens
It's harder to see after the door opens
omg infinite gift passes-
anyone have season candle pics? i think i missed 2
What’s the point of gift passes if the season is free for everyone?
its for testing
Ah okieee
@spark lance please post that problem in#beta-bugs-iosor #beta-bugs-android 
I've been told by two people now that I should be saving candles/ascended candles for this next season. Have I missed something? And how much should I save?
well, since you're here i assume you're ok with spoilers
a new system of Traveller spirits was introduced (that appear on weekends), these are spirits of past seasons, for example the Isle Gratitude spirit returned and offered their items for regular candles but like, a lot of candles. For example the mask itself is 50 candles (2 ascended candles to unlock that part of the tree) Though, we don't know if they'll change till then
Are there some big changes with the cosmetics place or only with courtesy’s mask and pants?
i think that was the only change with pass locked items? Blow kisses' pants (still non-pass) did get moved to the last node and same for prairie's hair
The duck mask is still free?
yes
Yay
It might have changed as the patch that came today move some stuff
Oh i checked as that spirit, looks pretty much the same to me/duck mask i mean
Well that’s what matters for me XD
duck,
Duck?
yes,
Duck lol
I hate the duck mask but everyone else seems to love it
Oh...
sobs
🦆
Which one is duck mask
wasteland's
hUH lemme go see
That one looks pretty nice but I also like the one with the curved beak
ALSO THE SPIRIT WITH THAT MASK IS SO SQUISHY!! I LOVE HIM
The big masks are nice, but as a personal preference I prefer the little ones 
I’m not a fan of the thin masks just bc they sit a bit weirdly imo but the designs are cute
I'd like it if they'd fill in all those forehead gaps tho 
Design of the masks aren’t my favorite but the style of how the colors look definitely my favorite so far
Yeaaah there’s a strange gap that I’m like hmmm wat this
And they all work with the white belonging cape
Cuuuute
So do all gift passes now include the 20 extra candles or are they charging people $10 to give their friends the pass without the bonus?
Bc I bought the $15 pack in beta and have two of those hands now that are exactly the same as the $10 gift pass icon
Oh they made the dodo a passless item now
Interesting
That’s one of my favorites but now everyone will be wearing it so I probably won’t lol
You’re free to wear whatever you enjoy and like regardless of what other people have! 
I like that one too, but I think I’m going to wear the really pointy “plague doctor” one. 🙂
That’s my current favourite!
It indeed is an awesome mask 
I just found 7 seasonal candles in vault. Where is the 8th?
The new tighter pants also go really well with the crab call cape from Lightseekers
Lol the duck?. I thought it was a gas mask from the icon
Agree with star Lord. Wear what you like! People will all be wearing the things for a while but they’ll gradually revert to their base favourites.

@sudden karma it’s currently stuck in/behind the wall just behind the door.
The duck is adorable but I don’t have it yet so can’t tell if it’s my favorite
It I n d e e d is adorable
Ok ty 🙂
But I discovered the dodo looks so good with the big spiky hair so that’s my current look
These bird masks are some serious competition for the deer
The masks in general also go well with the white/golden fringe cape from belonging, as the gold and white go together very smoothly
Lmao, true
I haven’t got dodo yet. I have the owl (? Makes me think of an owl anyway - thinking mask), and the plague doctor mask from kiss.
The game just gave me the flat pointy one for free bc they reorganized things. I was probably gonna leave that behind in beta :/
So now I’m gonna have to give up something else instead
It’s so hard to choose. They should just extend it a few days
I think we can only get like half the stuff in beta
RIP 
I genuinely wouldn’t stress about what you get and what you don’t get in beta. Focus on planning what you’re going to do in live.
Everything is so good. Too hard to choose
Yeth
I know but in live I don’t plan to miss anything
Well precisely. 
Keep the items that take longer to earn or are generally more favored by you, that way you don’t have to worry about them in live

We have no way to figure out order of spirits either this time around which is kind of nice in a way. I might try and do the hoarding thing and not actually get anything until I can get it all in one massive splurge. 😂
I wish I didn’t have to buy the juggle upgrades to get the purple mask bc they suck
I hope they change those for live
Bc that was a huge disappointment
I will, if i can remember to screenshot how my constellation is gonna look when it comes to live. Going to be really odd to see it over half complete at release
Oh yeah, do that Em!! That’ll be cool to see!

Boon help me remember, knowing me i will forget 
Was juggle the same in Winter? Was no one bothered by all 4 levels being the same?
I love the juggle so much I’m not fussed that it’s not a massive difference between upgrades. The balls gain sparkles and then they get bigger. I doubt that will change now.
Yes. Juggle is the same in live as in beta
I don’t think they will fiddle too much with the emotes because they already revamped the cosmetics imo
I wish they would have made 2 of them stationary continuous juggling
It’d be cooler if the balls were changed to pins or something in the upgrades, but overall I don’t mind the upgrades
yeth
Like confetti has small changes but they work



