beta-discussion

[frosty trout]

I see, thanks. So did you have to actually do any of the quests in order to turn them in?

[old kindle]

No, they all autocompleted

[regal niche]

nope

[frosty trout]

Thank you!

If you (plural you) haven't already, could you please fill out a bug report for this? While I can flag the issue to the team, it's also helpful for QA to have the standard report as well

[old kindle]

Sure, I'll do it soon 🫡

[full jewel]

Anyone dealing with poor framerate lately? I've noticed it in Beta and I don't have it in Live

[frosty trout]

Another bug question—are folks having issues with the Season of Flight Passage/Manta ocarina not playing certain notes in the beta version? We though we put in a fix, but I saw some mentions of this in the beta feedback channel

[maiden pond]

I'm confused, do you mean the Season of Flight kalimba AND the Passage manta ocarina?

[frosty trout]

No, I was just getting season names mixed up. Thanks for the correction

@old kindle A question related to your bug report (though if anyone else can answer about their experience please feel free to pipe in):

A few hours after the reset I logged into Sky and got a notification about all daily quests as if they were completed. They were blue, like in previous days when you did the daily quest, but you couldn't complete them at the statue/Spirits.

When you say they were blue like in previous days, what do you mean by that exactly? Had you tried to do these quests at all before logging in after the most recent reset?

[lilac solstice]

Since the fix for the Manta ocarina, I haven't had any issues. I even logged in to check, and it worked fine!

[old kindle]

By "blue like previous days" I meant that after completing a daily quest on my own, it would turn blue, but I couldn't get candles from the statue. I tried doing the daily quests on my own these past few days (I missed yesterday though), and for me personally they remained blue even after logging in after a while.
Just today all the daily quests were completed (turned blue) on their own. I was planning to try to complete them later, but I logged in and saw that they were yellow
(I hope I understood the questions correctly ^^')

[frosty trout]

Thanks!

Fwiw, we're thinking that this is the result of a database migration we did yesterday, and the issue should only affect people (some people) today.

[sudden pine]

i dont have it fwiw, didn't play this weekend

[craggy gull]

I already sent in my feedback but the mask being able to be displayed made me really want umbrellas to be displayed in nest too. I feel like it would be so cute to show them in our nest. Maybe in a similar fashion to how instruments are displayed? I would find it fun to share my umbrellas with friends

[inland plover]

I really miss the tree in office for the days of feast😭😭😭😭

Not just me many people on instagram actually was curious if it’s will be added this time because for most of them it’s a warm memory

[iron elbow]

wasn't it phase dependent? I'm p sure it only appears later in the event, nearing the holidays, and that trigger might not have been activated yet

[upbeat ore]

I went to the office at some point and pretty sure I've seen it

[final minnow]

Yeah it is phase dependent

[wheat panther]

Me too!

It was just chillin in the corner near the snowman with spells

[sudden pine]

once again i am here to say that i just want to love and have dormanatee around ALL THE TIME FOREVER i love them

[rugged kindle]

Ngl we'd love to see dormanatee in the cafe as a permanent resident wahhh

[untold oxide]

i was doing the race in sanct but i forgor i had a tlp quest there so i got stolen briefly

[agile hazel]

Dormanatee, I've come to bargin

[hazy musk]

Hi! Does anyone know when will the Days of feast comes on live. ?

[shy ore]

DOOT

[broken bison]

Why do I have a feeling that the Door will be IAP and the dress might be IGC

[late sonnet]

OH SNAP DOOT

[final minnow]

If the door isn’t functional and just a decor then i doubt that

[late sonnet]

I'm in

[broken bison]

||Its functional! It leads you to the feast area||

[final minnow]

Still loading

[late sonnet]

I feel like the door will do a cinna plush thing and let you access giant cafe after the event is over

[final minnow]

Oh it’s for sure an iap

[shy ore]

Yippie! Another Café's secret key!

[final minnow]

That would be so cute to put in nest😭😭

[late sonnet]

alright time to beta log it up 🏃

[final minnow]

Yaayy im in

[late sonnet]

okay so the old revival mannequin room was just removed and now that door just warps into the old event shop

but the door inside the regular clothing closet is still closed so you can't run through the tunnel to there

[final minnow]

Oh they added an icon for the hanging mask prop

[late sonnet]

they added icons to all the alice items too

[final minnow]

Yes!

[maiden pond]

How about Days of Music stuff? I'm too lazy to check myself now.

[final minnow]

Still the same but maybe after reset

[odd anchor]

none of the domu wax are registering for me but i probably wait till reset

[unborn root]

Seeing the aviary snow is something I've been wanting since Days of Feast 2023!

[late sonnet]

oh when you land at the bottom of the tunnel, a warp pad appears now so you can go back to aviary

the purple ❔ icon was updated
it's more stylised now

[rugged kindle]

Even the ? icon? 😭

[unborn root]

It became more cartoonish

[rugged kindle]

omg that's a very specific update

[unborn root]

That area of ​​events that has now put up a sign signaling something under construction, seems to me to be related to the next season...

[rugged kindle]

Also the stack of rocks looked like a top hat at first glance

[maiden pond]

You know, I knew TGC would go back to where the Revival mannequins were located. They did say it would be reused once in a patch on Revival I believe.

[rugged kindle]

Yea better than leaving it collecting dust for eons

[sonic raven]

Door??

[rugged kindle]

Yes a door

[sonic raven]

That would be fun to put in your nest
#beta-screenshots-videos message oh lol

[final minnow]

Plot twist: it’s not functional in nests

[old kindle]

The graphics settings on Android have changed again. Low settings now do not make my phone lag very much (if I leave the Resolution at 1 lightning), and I can set high fps. 2 and 3 lightning remind me of 1 and 2 lightning from previous patches, with big lags, but at least low settings allow you to play comfortably

[old kindle]

All the wax in the Valley of Triumph does not count towards the currency. I can collect it many times, but the counter does not change

[dense fiber]

o

like do you mean the wax balls don't go away when they're already collected?

[final minnow]

This logging on being fully uncharged bug is so annoying

[late sonnet]

so I went to the area and picked up the instrument, then big cluster of wax showed up and entered skid, but the gauge didn't go up

in the same session I went back and did the same actions and the wax reappeared and still didn't fill up the ticket meter

[dense fiber]

but is this also affecting the wax in the valley areas that aren't related to days of music? magpie's message gave me that impression

[dense fiber]

skykids forgot their daily cup of joe in the morning

[steady flume]

for me it seems to be all the wax yes, went to a bunch of different areas in valley and none of the wax got added to my candle

[late sonnet]

just did a lil of valley
it is all the wax yeah

[late sonnet]

my bad misread but yes all the wax after some testing

the dreams village is also borked

[old kindle]

Yes, it affected all the wax (sorry for the late reply). I sent a bug report, it has a video with several points and different types of wax - days of music wax, the seasonal candle at valley lobby and the candles inside the temple.
Wax doesn't collect on the rink either
And just checked the Village of Dreams - the wax broken for me too

the only exception is the race, i got wax normally for one of them
edit: for 2 races I got wax as usual

[ashen tusk]

ohh maybe this bug is in live?? just saw someone mention it in gen chat, hope it's not!

[upbeat ore]

The skirt on the Alice dress is moving. The technology

[old kindle]

I checked Live, everything seems to be fine (for me)

[ashen tusk]

That's great, hopefully it was a momentary connection bug for that person then thanks for checking!

[jade veldt]

I have two questions after the update:

1. After the seasonal candle in Valley of Triumph is lit, the seasonal candle cannot be increased
2. The number of ECs in DoM has changed from 5 per day to 4 per day
   Are you the same as me?

[cursive cobalt]

THE SERVER SPLITS ARE SO FREQUENT

[odd anchor]

2- i got 4 music tickets instead of 3, 2 of them from interacting what i can interact at the place

[jade veldt]

After using the musical instruments provided at the event venue, I received an EC.

[nocturne lynx]

Guess is not only wax but WL too 🫂 it won't count even after claiming it

[bronze bear]

Hi sorry i just had a question i got invited to sky beta but , when i entered it warned me that it was full of players , can you please help me?

[late sonnet]

there are no invite spots open for beta right now
you will have to wait for the official invite through #beta-signup-info

[bronze bear]

Ohh i see thanks

[tidal seal]

i just relogin to beta and realize the outfit with invisible face cost 999 candle- is it really cost that much?

[late sonnet]

1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% a placeholder price

[tidal seal]

ahhhh i see, thank for the info, i almost buy it hshsh

[late sonnet]

it's that cost to deter testers from buying it
won't stop you from getting it but also like...why lol

[rugged kindle]

Of course no way it would cost 999 in live, that's gonna take billion years of cr to get that

[gray anvil]

Me with 2.5k candles in live. I'd buy that

[tidal seal]

holy moly 😭

[late sonnet]

they need to drop the elder masks before they drop more high cost igcs I swear to god

[ashen tusk]

Okay but what if 999 was because invisi cape is 999

[late sonnet]

but invis cape is 999 hearts so 3x 999 candles is like 2997 candles

[ashen tusk]

omg new invisible line of clothing 999 price tag

[gray anvil]

If TGC could set the prices to 4 digit numbers, they totally would add another 9

[late sonnet]

but would it arrive in less than a minute

[gray anvil]

Maybe, with express shipping top-up which usually cost more than the item

[late sonnet]

and ship it to somewhere like australia

[rugged kindle]

What has australia done to you 😭

[sudden pine]

I see a stealth update while im sleeping 💤

[plush matrix]

Did tgc fix the eden bug, im stuck in there for 1 week 😭

[proper condor]

Oh no ! I hope so as they warned us not to go there

[trim spade]

A sneaky doot

[burnt creek]

Cy what does those rections mean i dont get it

Hoping u see it cuz I don't wanna ping u

[rugged kindle]

It reads "before reset"

[late sonnet]

it updated at around 12pm my time which was 3 hours before reset
hence my reactions spell out "B4 reset"

cuz 3 is a good substitute for E since 📧 is too small tbh

[burnt creek]

What about the sunrise?

[late sonnet]

it was more like...what's a good emote that means early morning time
but it's not something translateable through timezones

[burnt creek]

I was trynna read it with the sunrise first cuz I thought was supposed to mean another word or letter 😭

[burnt creek]

Ohh got it now

It would kinda actually work for my timezone but I just got super confused xD

[late sonnet]

yeah don't worry about it
either way 'before reset' stands

[trim spade]

We still can’t get any ec cosmetics in the events correct? Also I found 8 tickets in aviary, are there more?

[gray anvil]

the new cosmetics are all in the shop as a bundle, the npcs are not accepting ec.

[potent sorrel]

Excuse me, everyone, after updating to the latest version, the "Moomin co-branded gift package" in the store disappeared. Is there anyone in the same situation as me?

[plush matrix]

I went to eden before their warn us 🥹

[sudden pine]

I need to know if mini doorway gives you year-round dormanatee access

[frosty trout]

Morning everyone! Will post a beta update post soon, but just checking—are folks still having issues with Light from different currencies not adding to your inventory?

[nocturne lynx]

Wax is fixed on my end but WL is still not counting for me

[ashen tusk]

Wax isn't working in valley and wing light collecting doesn't register

(I didn't bug report cause I just hopped on for the day but I'll send one shortly!)

[frosty trout]

And I take it the issue persists even after restarting? Your currency inventory still won't update?

As far as daily quests, no auto-completes today I take it?

[ashen tusk]

Nope none! And restarting didn't register my wax or wings

[nocturne lynx]

WL appears as if I never took it. Dailies are working as usual for me, no auto complete (Android)

[frosty trout]

Thank you everyone!

[ashen tusk]

Ooh wing registered in wasteland but not valley

also can I just say I got super cool cause I reached the wing up top in the first area in 4 flaps

[old kindle]

My wax in Valley still doesn't register after re-logins

Daily tasks are all normal, no auto-completes

[dry ibex]

Same here, it’s all wax too (including seasonal)

[ashen tusk]

Are you guys noticing a delay in the wax that does register?

[fast oasis]

Is there a forecast for the Eye of Eden bug to be solved? I've been stuck on it since the last update

[ashen tusk]

Sago said we’ll get doot notes later so I’d wait for those to see if it’s addressed

[maiden pond]

That sounds like a scary situation to be in. I hope that this bug can be fixed before it hits Live. There's still some time but Eden being my only way to get lots of ascended candles for now (since I NEED them) would be upsetting if I couldn't go there without fear of being stuck there for all eternity.

I mean I know I can count on shards but they're not very frequent, either. But still, my ascended candles keep being drained by the crab that sells Dark Dragon repellent in Cackling Crab every day. (I know I can just not buy them, but I want to hoard those spells for later.)

[proper condor]

I’m noticing a decrease in candles from light for sure. Specially wasteland

[fast oasis]

I hope they solve it before the events are over, I couldn't see anything other than the IAPs

[gray ember]

Has the gift package of Mad Hat disappeared in the latest test version?

[trim spade]

I can’t get the new spells in Alice area

[chrome ivy]

Dang, I just realised something.

It's already been 1 year's since the last beta invites been released to register

[gilded fractal]

yeah 😅 beta invites become myth

[trim spade]

Yeah it’s been longer than 1 year

[dry ibex]

Eden bug should be fixed 👀 gonna try it…. Again

[sudden pine]

i hope you can get out sof!

[gray ember]

😫

[rain tide]

** "daily quest spirits will receive a radar point triggered by a shout if you need to relive"**
I love this so much, we need this in live

[dry ibex]

Okay so WL don’t register in Eden before PNR either (but it did in the very first area)

Hopes and prayers

[maiden pond]

#beta-screenshots-videos message I think it might be worth a bug report since the Alice prop shouldn't work like the broom can't work in Live. (In Storm End, I mean.)

[dry ibex]

Yeah sending bug reports after I’m done with beta for today. Did leave it in feedback for now

Tbh all it did in orbit was just skip the wing buff line but it did give me all my wing buffs

[maiden pond]

That does sound nice, but I feel it shouldn't be intended.

[dry ibex]

Yeah

[exotic river]

The low resolution is now much lower, the game is blurry, is this on purpose? (on Android btw)

[thorny summit]

Hi

[unreal tusk]

I think that they make it back again because of some people who has a not so good graphics, maybe they might put it back again

[steady flume]

trying to open any of the elder trees in orbit makes my game crash

[exotic river]

They are hiding the new elder mask

[dry ibex]

Orbit spirit bug… please live……

[ashen tusk]

#beta-screenshots-videos message

you
for pla
ying

[final minnow]

Who ate "thank"

[maiden pond]

Hey, I don't want to hop on beta now but can anyone see what the tasty "treat" is after completing your dailies in beta? I'm very intrigued by it. You will need to sit by the cafe obviously after completing the dailies of course.

[dry ibex]

@sudden pine can’t join

[sudden pine]

ok

[cinder wing]

What is the xylophone??

[white solar]

IM THE 6TH SIDE QUEST??

[dry ibex]

Gonna do dailies right now and check

[maiden pond]

I seen your video! That's so adorable.

[polar lintel]

Bro is the “truth” from FMA

[white solar]

I know not the land you speak of

[polar lintel]

Google it if you get the chance!! Your pfp very closely resembles the said character

[white solar]

OH wow it does. It was, appropriately, taken from a very intense and abstract moment in a favorite song of mine titled “Fate” (Unmei, in romaji)

[polar lintel]

!!!! I’ll check that out

[white solar]

(It’s by harumaki gohan and nilfruits! Might be a bit out of your ordinary depending what you listen to lol)

[polar lintel]

Curious, there’s actually a video on YouTube of a man exclaiming “Holy $&)@, Unmei broke me” (by the same artist you mentioned)

[white solar]

Huh, haven’t found anyone bringing out the censored language but I have seen a breakdown of the song with a very similar title! That review I know is by Melty Solid

[dry ibex]

Hi everyone! Let’s please keep discussion here about what’s currently being tested in beta. The conversation is a bit too off-topic

[polar lintel]

O h whoops

[white solar]

Wondered about that, apologies!!
@polar lintel you ok moving to dms to continue? It’s fine if you’d rather just leave the topic here too

[high burrow]

Has anyone found all 15 event currency for Days of Music? So far have only found 14.

[trim spade]

Did you check the wreath on the wall?

[trim spade]

I’m getting server errors

Oof now can’t log in at all

[cinder wing]

Me too

[proper condor]

Look in the piles of wood by the oven and another one between the stoves at the bottom where the mushrooms are

[trim spade]

Can’t use the return shrine to get to Alive area

[sudden pine]

i think thats cuz its technically still in aviary

[languid charm]

where can i get the moomin cloak ? the one that can into moomin map

[frosty trout]

Still getting server errors?

[lilac solstice]

I'm only at 11. I'm very stumped

I'm actually unable to find the final Days of Feast ticket too. These are very well hidden

[cinder wing]

Yes and valley season candles I can’t take it

What ? How named me eye of Ali

[lilac solstice]

If you got haunted, you may have gotten a name change. Skybot changed mine after being haunted too

[boreal notch]

#beta-screenshots-videos message I want this to become some sort of inside joke or something

Just a very low quality image of a spirit with an emotion captioned below their face

[cedar matrix]

Anyone know where i can purchase stuff with the tickets from days of feast & music?

[gray anvil]

The new cosmetics are in a bundle from the candle shop now. The NPCs are no longer accepting tickets. Beta players are only testing on how to collect tickets.

[plush matrix]

I came to alice place but i don't see grandma 🥹, where did she go?

[gray anvil]

grandma is still inside the igloo at old home

[wheat panther]

Is anyone else getting “pushed off the balcony” when they set nest as home? 😂🧐

[cedar matrix]

Ooh thanks! Been running all over trying to figure it out

[delicate stratus]

is beta Servers down atm?

[gentle belfry]

Hello uhh my WiFi is good and I can't login it says check your WiFi connection

[delicate stratus]

yep that confirms it, thanks

[gentle belfry]

Last night I fell asleep with my phone next to me listening to hidden forest rain sounds

[fair current]

I can login, kinda slow tho, but I can't take quests, saying invalid request

[late sonnet]

I experienced the same thing and restarted my game
the next round I just hit the ❕ then immediately ran into a realm and didn't get server errors

[jade veldt]

I found a serious problem. Today, DoM's 15 fixed ECs were reset. When my friend carried me to pick up DoM's 15 fixed ECs, she was responsible for flying to each location. When she picked up one, I followed her to pick up one. After she picked up 15, I found that I got more than 15 ECs. I actually got 18 ECs! I also found this problem when picking up in the previous version. At that time, I was also carried by my friend, and I got 16 ECs, but I didn't record it at that time, so I can't be completely sure whether it is really abnormal.
Have you encountered the same problem? #beta-bugs-android message

[tidal seal]

does anyone also keep getting server errors?

[honest nacelle]

This worked for me after I got server errors.

[late sonnet]

please bug report also if you got the errors

[honest nacelle]

Will do!

[frosty trout]

Thanks for reporting the server error thing with daily quests!

I've seen a couple scattered comments that server splits are more frequent--are people still experiencing that?

[waxen pendant]

Can you guys please remove that annoying mute system? The old system was better. It mutes me whenever I use Hindi in the English script.

I mean what's the purpose of sky if we are muted for 1 hour, what should we do? There is no option to complain or review it. The support page is complex

[gray anvil]

I do not see friends online in my constellation, even though they're asking me to warp over at the time. I'm not sure if it was due to the server errors that was going on at live servers during the same time.

[frosty trout]

When was this happening?

[gray anvil]

Probably 45-60 minutes ago.

[frosty trout]

Hm, yeah, sounds like it might be related to the live server issue. I take it this is no longer happening for you?

[gray anvil]

Not able to check atm as it's late for us and we're already logged out for the day

[frosty trout]

No worries! Thank you

[agile hazel]

The server errors were the friends we made along the way

[frosty trout]

FYI, passed along the friend constellation issues to the team, and also the server errors when getting dailies

[maiden pond]

Oh, so beta getting maintenance instead. How the tables have turned.

[frosty trout]

ノ┬─┬ノ ︵ ( \o°o)\

[static oriole]

I’m getting connection issues…

[dense fiber]

who's main and why is he a tenant?

[static oriole]

Ohhhh thanks!!

[sudden pine]

but look! an update!

[maiden pond]

Update?

[frosty trout]

Yes, but we're still in maintenance mode for a little bit longer

[maiden pond]

Oh that's fine. Just surprised by the update.

[sudden pine]

suitable for halloween, the most Evil of Updates: the unplayable one!

[frosty trout]

Testers: Trick or treat!
Beta: Trick

[maiden pond]

How many hours was it? Two?

Yeah, two.

[cinder wing]

Sagomay say we expect to take one or two hours

[frosty trout]

Current estimate is about another 20 minutes, but again, that's very rough and subject to change

[maiden pond]

Fair. I'll keep an eye out for your updates.

[final minnow]

Recorded message feature for offline friends?

[maiden pond]

Yup.

[unborn root]

Beta update!

I can connect to the game, in case anyone is still having problems

[maiden pond]

I thought they were still doing maintenance?

[wheat panther]

It’s overrr, rejoice beta

[maiden pond]

Looks like I'm stuck in server error and failed to connect jail.

[fervent ridge]

spooky dot

[maiden pond]

It seemed to have happened either after I tried getting the Alice prop in the IAP shop. Or the Alice dress, I think the prop was what caused me to get server errors though.

[agile hazel]

ooh sending DMs in Sky

[frosty trout]

Idk that I'd call it a DM But we're definitely interested to know what y'all think about the feature once you get a chance to try it out!

[rugged kindle]

Aw the bonus sc and hearts in aviary now moved to the good ol OG statue near the portals

At least I'm glad that the shrine statue isn't left non functional

[soft pebble]

I love the idea. Waiting for my friend to wake up so we can test it

[rugged kindle]

but tbh personally I feel its easier to snatch a bonus sc from the friendship statue in aviary but either way we still get teleported to portal array when we head "home" from the other realms

Could be helpful to check whether I forgot the bonus sc without running all the way back lol

[rugged kindle]

It sounds more like a mail from the pen pals

[maiden pond]

Hey Sagomay, if you're still here, will the friend who gets the offline recorded message be notified of it from Sky notifications?

I'm going to have a friend send me a message soon. But I'm wondering if the recipient gets notified from Sky notifications.

I didn't get notifications from Sky saying my friend sent me a message, also the red dot won't go away from their name after they've sent me a message.

Other than that it's an interesting feature, nonetheless.

[ashen tusk]

Omg testflight had a layout update the other day and I just realised with this latest beta doot I now get told how long an update will take to download no more staring for 5 years at the progress buffer not moving

Anyways the new messages for friends feature sounds a lot like princess leia leaving a message for obi wan via r2d2

[timber grotto]

wait does this mean days of music cape is currently igc unless they changed it

[unborn root]

"🔹Removed hint text from quests"
Why not remove hint texts from players who have been in the game for a long time?

[ashen tusk]

wafo for live but if that's the intended status then yay I was right after all

[timber grotto]

they only removed the hint texts from quests i think. idk.

[ashen tusk]

Ohh We've moved angle where we fly out nests from

Omg friend statue dead there's no button to interact are they retiring it altogether?

[worthy galleon]

aww I love the new friendship message function Plus it's free!!

[sudden pine]

bubba what if i send you a message when you are online?!

[ashen tusk]

ohh I hopped off to post on here omg

I gotta sleep I shall test more tomorrow have fun yall!

[sudden pine]

yea i also gotta sleep cuz headache

[ashen tusk]

After sleep we should definitely test the messages when we’re online v offline! I hope your headache goes away soon

[unborn root]

New Players at the end of the year will be condemned to spend almost a thousand candles, we will have the Days of Feast 2020 - 2023, days of music and Moomim items.

[trim spade]

I could never pick up the portal spell in the Alice area. I clicked on it but it didn’t work

[gray anvil]

Reading a sent friend message does not get rid of the red notif dot in the constellation.

[unborn root]

A friend of mine told me that the piano at days of music will be paid for, seriously TGC?

[ashen tusk]

Everything is wafo, we don't know for sure what is or isn't IAP

[hushed saddle]

What about the cape of days of music, is gonna be IGC?

[ashen tusk]

Please wait for live announcements

[unborn root]

If the pants become paid, the cape will probably be free, but we won't know until the last beta update.

[fervent ridge]

the only thing is in iap are the pants, as for the piano and the cape, they are not available so big Wafo there

[rugged kindle]

If the piano is an iap then it should be visible in the in game shop if I'm not wrong then don't take anyone's suspicions as a solid fact especially for the beta

[unborn root]

So... no new IGC instrument this year? how sad

[rugged kindle]

Like I said we don't know what's currently available as igc or otherwise.

[autumn elk]

the piano is in the permanent iap shop i was able to gift it to a friend when i stood near a box that had a little 🎁 icon over it

[rugged kindle]

Ohh interesting but idk if it will be the final as of this build 🤔

[unborn root]

It still has the trumpet but I think the trumpet will possibly be IAP, as it comes from an existing Ultimate Gift from Season of Assembly.

[unborn root]

There are still WIP items without icons, so we will still have new Builds for tests.

[rugged kindle]

Yeah everything seems to be very wip still

Also the fact that the piano is in the iap box currently instead of in game shop makes me think it might be a permanent feature? But either way it's unusual so we don't know what it will be like as of yet

[cloud sphinx]

Please keep in mind that things can change between final beta builds and live announcements too

[rugged kindle]

yup it's quite confusing and up in the air

[ashen tusk]

actually though I would love jam station to be igc so I'm ignoring everything and coping for that

[cloud sphinx]

sometimes you can’t even trust live announcements…

[rugged kindle]

lmao 😭 true

Jam station as an igc would be sick

[cloud sphinx]

it woulddddd
i can play hot to go with a background track

[rugged kindle]

YESS

Can't wait to put it in my nest and jam the hecc out of it

[ashen tusk]

okay I fr need sleep goodnight beta make sure to break everything

[cloud sphinx]

Enjoy your sleepppp

[rugged kindle]

if I'm in beta I would break music related stuff for science /j

[ashen tusk]

I have loaded in my nest with my kid at the station ready to create all the music

[cloud sphinx]

I need to rearrange my nest to make space for the jam station

[rugged kindle]

that's my dream

I would compose a looping interstellar ost in my nest much to my friend's annoy-

[rugged kindle]

looks at my nest full of trinkets:

[cloud sphinx]

Annoyance? I’d say delight

[rugged kindle]

omg
finally a person of good tastes

[cloud sphinx]

I used the side by the two windows as a stage

[trim spade]

I think my nest ones empty lol. Haven’t unpacked all the moving boxes yet

[rugged kindle]

Nah i need bigger nest space load to slam the jam station in my nest without removing all the trinkets

[trim spade]

I’d visit just for the ambiance

[rugged kindle]

yesssss do visit >:3

[trim spade]

you can put stuff up on the roof and out of the way

[rugged kindle]

lmaooo garage band but it's on the rooftop

[idle nexus]

The Alice area is working for me along with the quests. Is that the same with everyone even though the update notes says otherwise?

[final minnow]

It says it’ll disappear after reset. I’m assuming it’s going back in the next build but rn it’s being disabled so we can test the door feature

[steady moth]

I’m currently unable to play beta rn 🙏 do we know the DoMusic cosmetic distribution yet or is it still 🧇?

[final minnow]

The store looks like this #beta-screenshots-videos message

[steady moth]

Alright thank you ^^

[rugged kindle]

Keep in mind that things are still wip

[rugged kindle]

also in the patch notes state that the jam station and the DoMusic cape is unavailable to be obtained rn

[steady moth]

👍

[maiden pond]

Oh yeah has anyone else still got the old Home transition to Aviary Village on beta? My home is set to Aviary, and I still have it go from old Home to Aviary Village.

[cloud sphinx]

Oh hm, is that a different dress on the hairtoussle teen and boatswain or am i just misremembering #beta-screenshots-videos message
(it looks like the new model that was applied for some of the constellation spirits)

[exotic river]

why his neck is so long 😭

[gray anvil]

It's the new model that had the shoulder piece removed.

[rugged kindle]

It's the neck hours

[cloud sphinx]

Yeee - i guess they’re gonna roll out the new models for the other spirits

[rugged kindle]

Wonder if they'll update narcissists model

don't

[gray anvil]

please don't, he's perfect

[rugged kindle]

OK I eat my words

[cloud sphinx]

Well, narci has his own pants so… I don’t think so

[rugged kindle]

That's true, but oh well he's perfect as he is

[gray anvil]

ngl hairtoussle teen looks like those toy figs where the head can be yanked out and placed on a different body to change clothes

[rugged kindle]

Ash this sounds so cursed

[gray anvil]

i must spread the cursed image in my head

[rugged kindle]

[agile hazel]

Hair Tousle Barbie™

[rugged kindle]

no

you two, I'm bringing u to eden

[cloud sphinx]

barbie teen… in an alice world…

[rugged kindle]

suffering

[timber grotto]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
WHAT

[late sonnet]

that is a choice™️ to make the upright piano iap lmao

[obsidian fern]

another collab man. This year's the collab year apparently

I swear to god of they made the cape iap tho I'm going to lose it

[late sonnet]

Currently the pants are, not the cape

[hazy vortex]

is there anything special or new with the upright piano aside from the appearance?

[cobalt charm]

Not that I have noticed

Is the doot for Android not available yet?

[maiden pond]

Should be.

[rugged kindle]

Also the fact that it doesn't show up in the in game cart shop but in a box makes me think it's a permanent iap thing? But we'll have to wafo of course

Also it still has the duets season symbol in the icon

[cobalt charm]

Ohh, bc i thought they said alice area would be closed but i got in just fine lol

[tawdry pine]

What I'm thinking it could be another case of IAP white guitar- an instrument that's always available when the TS isn't around.

[rugged kindle]

that might be

[late sonnet]

Tbh if it stays it better be like $5 because of how it looks

[tawdry pine]

Granted, this is me assuming the DoMusic Piano and the duets one sound the same

And hopefully it gets that Triumph Instrument glow up

[rugged kindle]

truee it's not that different from the duets season grand piano (not ult)

Unless they change the appearance

[final minnow]

It even has the duets season pendent on its icon
But it has when u place it so they should probably update the icon

[rugged kindle]

Also mechanically it's not as complex as the violin anyways idk how much the triumph guitar costs

[rugged kindle]

Probably a placeholder since it was scrapped from Duets testing

[late sonnet]

no, the icon makes sense because then people would correlate to it sounding like the duets grand pianos
otherwise if it returns to the people would just think it's the basegame piano

[rugged kindle]

Oh true, it would've been confused with the basegame piano

So basically duets = fancy piano

[nocturne lynx]

||$15 :>||

[rugged kindle]

Ngl tho they could also change the icon overall design

They could slap the DoMusic treble clef icon too

[final minnow]

They could make a little difference between them like the violin and cello

[rugged kindle]

Yea! I think the current icon is just a placeholder straight away picked from the wip duets testing a while ago while the new icon is in the works

[boreal notch]

#beta-screenshots-videos message I saw this message and the images and thought it would be funny if when there was a ts that particular spirit would try and look around for the player like "Aren't they supposed to give me their candles by now?"
(This idea entirely came from the fact that boatswain was there and they were a recent ts)

[rugged kindle]

Would love to make the colour palette of the spinet piano more distinct from the seasonal grand piano to tie it better with the DoMusic

[final minnow]

#beta-screenshots-videos message ngl I’m not a fan of this😭 I would rather get teleported to the gates area than falling from sky

[nocturne lynx]

I know people might mention why making it IAP if it sounds the same, but it is the same situation with the IAP harp and the base one, both sound the same and are permanent. It's just ✨visuals✨

But Beta is Beta so better wait for the Live news :>

[rugged kindle]

mhm it's been a thing with the equivalents, so as not to make it feel like p2w at most

But I'd love to see the unique skin for the spinet piano, that would make a great incentive to purchase the piano

[boreal notch]

plot twist the Days of Music guide has an ultimate item and it's just a reskin of the spinet piano

[rugged kindle]

That's event, not season

[boreal notch]

thats why it's a plot twist

[rugged kindle]

an impossible plot twist lol

[boreal notch]

a plot u-turn

[nocturne lynx]

Yeah, I'd love to see some bold/strong colors like the violin Im still coping because I want to believe that it's a placeholder for a pipe organ but this is me being delusional

[rugged kindle]

PIPE ORGAN PLS

[nocturne lynx]

PIPE ORGAN AND TROMBONE PLEASE

[rugged kindle]

idc people saying we have too many pianos I need the pipe organ 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[boreal notch]

Hmm
I DID manage to manifest a harmonica in sky by thinking about it a week before the season of moomin beta came out

I wonder....

[rugged kindle]

I mean it's very expected bc snufkin literally plays the signature instrument

[boreal notch]

I'm gonna push my luck this time because if they're gonna have 5 different pianos at least add an organ

[analog pecan]

Oh wow in like five minutes my device was like 🔥 😱

[rugged kindle]

tgc pls add an organ and my life is yours

[outer citrus]

when is beta season ending ?

[boreal notch]

You know what
Add maracas
I can imagine maracas in sky go ahead add maracas

[late sonnet]

I mean you can still just hit the lever to descend
falling from the sky is more realistic and you don't need to use up wedges to fly to the other spots in the area

[rugged kindle]

Maracas as the percussion probably just 1 note bc we can't hit specific notes with just a pair of maracas

[boreal notch]

"falling from the sky is more realistic" yeah because I totally skydive right down to the corner store every morning

[rugged kindle]

I mean that's what skykids do, they fly and skydive all the time

[timber grotto]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
manifesting they change the colors i wonder why it has the duets logo though

[maiden pond]

#beta-screenshots-videos message @fervent ridge this bug exists in Live and sends people to point zero. I've reported it before Moomin season launched, but this bug can be used for malicious intents so please report it too.

[late sonnet]

it's a game about flying
falling from the sky is 100% realistic lol

[rugged kindle]

likely a placeholder I assume cuz usually DoMusic instruments tend to have the treble clef

[boreal notch]

Okay yeah fair point can't argue with that

[rugged kindle]

Especially the artbook mentions that they want flying to remain the core gameplay

[late sonnet]

the original point was not enjoying sky falling when you jump off the nest balcony and I'm like...what did you expect to happen 😂

[odd lintel]

it fits my idea of my skykid jumping from her balcony to go bath in the river because she can’t be bothered finding a suitable spot for a bath in her nest

[fervent ridge]

Oh I didn't know this was also in live already, today I was being chased by a stranger and barely saw them use that ball, so I wanted to test it myself, but ty for the info

[maiden pond]

Yeah, I am not sure if it exists still but I used it like you did in your video unknowingly and I had it tested on myself once too. It's definitely something that TGC needs to be aware of.

[boreal notch]

So wait I wonder...
If the snowman prop works on the snow in the nest, and you leave it the same until the snow is gone, will it remain as a built snowman or will it melt like normal
Can you have a snowman in the middle of June just by not touching it?

[rugged kindle]

Ohh that's an interesting experiment

[boreal notch]

Someone let me know once the snow is gone in beta I need to know if it's worth it to get the snowman live

[bronze perch]

I've got a question. How do you set the aviary village as your opening screen?

[timber grotto]

yeah! hopefully they get to change it

[fervent ridge]

I think that's based on which place you have for log in, but that screen is only available in iOS for now

[bronze perch]

What? So it's not available on Android yet?

[outer citrus]

can someone tell me last day of season in beta?.

[bronze perch]

Oh i'm confused now lol

Is it or isn't it?

[fervent ridge]

I mean, is not available yet xD but hopefully in the future we can also see that screen!

[lilac solstice]

Awww I feedbacked this. It's so nice to see it implemented
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[bronze perch]

But the update says otherwise and also i saw a video of nastymold having aviary village loading screen.

[bronze perch]

Which season?

[outer citrus]

the current season

[bronze perch]

In the beta?

[outer citrus]

yes

[bronze perch]

Oohh you mean the season of moomin? I'm not sure

[fervent ridge]

I can tell you I use my phone and tablet and in both that screen doesn't appear
Also nastymold plays in iOS too far I'm aware, this also seems the case for other android devices

[outer citrus]

can you check please, i dont have space to update it on my phone 🥲

[late sonnet]

3 days
also that's a question for #beta-season-test-chat

[outer citrus]

oh okok sorry

[bronze perch]

I'm aware that she's an iOS user but idk, someone just told me it's only available for iOS

[fervent ridge]

For now* at least, maybe this change in future builds

[bronze perch]

Then what was that new update for?? They got our hopes up for nuthin making us think that THAT new feature is here

[late sonnet]

it's beta and everything breaks though

[tawdry pine]

Beta can range from new things galore to "minor bug fix", gotta make sure it's holding up well enough for Live

[pulsar blade]

Kinda ask, is the duchess and queen of hearts same in alice in winderland

You know, madam lestrange in harry potter, who is she in alice wonderland

[late sonnet]

they don't exist in the collaboration event if that's what you're asking

@pliant gull the cape has been around since the second update of 0.27.5 for days of music

[cursive cobalt]

November 4 I think.

[outer citrus]

oh thank youu

[tawdry pine]

What

[pulsar blade]

Im just asking if anyone knows who the characters. Im trying seeing outside discord but im confused as to whom are the characters

[cursive cobalt]

Which? Event of wonderland or?..

[pulsar blade]

Its wonderland. Its ok now. They are didferent characters

[cursive cobalt]

It's probably Hatter, Alice, and White Rabbit. If you're still interested in knowing (melp I didn't readback)

[cursive tinsel]

The duchess is different to the queen of hearts in Alice in Wonderland.

The actor who plays Lestrange is the Queen of Hearts in tim Burton's Alice* in Wonderland

[gusty lantern]

Oooomgg I'm so happy for the new offline recorded messages for friends 🥺🥺🥺

[radiant arrow]

Is server available??

[sinful chasm]

We finally have offline messages

Now I can call my friend without opening discord

[placid iron]

just heard about the new update hhhh that dm stuff isnt gonna end well at all im calling it 😬

looking at some more stuff ik i have a burning hate for nesting but its nice seeing all of these very much due qol changes :]

[late sonnet]

you can only send one message at a time, and you can report the messages that are sent

[placid iron]

wait forget what i said here i thought theyd be like the chat system its just shared memories again LOL

[late sonnet]

they also currently cost nothing to send which is dope

[gray anvil]

It takes a restart to remove the red dot notif from a constellation message. 😭

[cloud sphinx]

Has anyone tested playing music with offline messages?

[late sonnet]

the thought has not occurred to me

[rugged kindle]

Also the offline messages thing is only available for mutual friends whose chats have unlocked to each other iirc

[final minnow]

Terrorizing u with alnst songs

[rugged kindle]

yall are friends or foes to each other musically??? 😭

[static hamlet]

I do not see Ninny’s masterpiece cape. Am I looking in the wrong place?

[rugged kindle]

Are you sure you have updated beta?

[static hamlet]

Yes, the only build available in TestFlight

[rugged kindle]

Shouldn't it be in in game shop according to patch notes

[static hamlet]

That’s what I read. I had a band uniform there.

[rugged kindle]

Hm maybe bug report in that case

[static hamlet]

Ty!

[final minnow]

We can be both

[crimson junco]

MAKE THE BALCONY BIGGER

[sturdy marten]

I want to ask why most of the clothes, hair, jewellery and other costumes in my game are gone. The game said that my data was damaged and asked me to re-download it. I not only updated but also re-downloaded it, but my clothes didn't come back.🥲

[dry ibex]

I’m not sure, but it would be good to make a bug report about this! ( #beta-bugs-ios or #beta-bugs-android)

If your game data was suddenly damaged / corrupted, then it does sound like something the devs might want to be aware of before a build is shipped to live.

[agile hazel]

They posted in qnh too so no idea if it's live or beta

[icy sail]

test message

[dry ibex]

So Alvos and me found out that when you record a constellation message for your friend, your friends in the server can still see your chat

[silk sparrow]

Is it true bunny hair will cost 150 candles?

What happened to event tickets?

[dry ibex]

If you saw anything online that revealed prices of things currently being tested in beta, you can always safely assume this information is likely incorrect / false / misleading / speculation and obtained illegitimately.

And even when we do test prices in beta, we can never really assume this is final - nothing in beta is final until it is released in live

So in short: probably not, but we don’t know because we don’t see these prices

[final minnow]

It also doesn’t show that u were moving around

[dry ibex]

Sad

I was flying to the closets and drowning too

[final minnow]

Help yeah I noticed😭😭😭
microwave edit is crazy…

Probably going under the surface

[rugged kindle]

We don't know how it'll be like in live and we have Yet to see the EC items for Alice x Feast event right now

Especially that we still collect EC (even those 15 scattered tickets lol) so it's bound to be used to get these event items so it's likely to be a placeholder or beta things ™️

[dry ibex]

Did the triumph trumpet spells also disappear for you guys 😔

[iron elbow]

this is so mean, are they getting scrapped for the second time?? 😭

[agile hazel]

The doot just isn't meant to be

[late sonnet]

toot

[inland plover]

They downgraded the Alice’s dress 💃🏻

[shy ore]

skeleton doot 🎺

[cinder gulch]

Does opening elder vault's ultimate gift tree at orbit crash the game for anyone?

[rugged kindle]

Wdym it's been the same as far as I can see

[inland plover]

Its looks short on my small sky kid kinda

[rugged kindle]

I saw in the screenshots! I think it looks as close as the original alice dress length, up to around her knees

[inland plover]

It’s looks kinda weird to me because sky kids head looks bigger than the body in the dress xD

[rugged kindle]

That's true, skykid's head looks quite big on short height

ngl this reminds me of how Alice was drawn in the books lol, her head looked massive

[trim spade]

I wonder what it would look like if many people sent private in game messages to one person

[ashen tusk]

AHAHAHA I LOADED INTO NEST ON MY PIANO BALCONY BUT I HIT THE TRANSITION BARRIER AND GOT YEETED INTO AVIARY

[soft pebble]

I disagree the legs were too thin It was creepy when it got shorter the legs don't look as creepy anymore

[still depot]

I was wondering, how does the private message thing work if the recipient doesn’t speak your language? Correct me if I’m wrong but last I checked, messages sent in shared memories don’t get translated.

[ashen tusk]

There's a translate button when you're viewing the message

Although idk if it translates the chat or just the main memory name message

[still depot]

Seems to only be the title/name last I checked. Could have changed since I don’t really use shared space/memories

[sudden pine]

@remote flame so you were viewing my message and I was viewing yours, and we both did the confetti emotes at each other in our separate messages, right ?

infinite confetti, truly the best bug ever

[remote flame]

Yes it is other then the frame rate dropping

[gilded tree]

No way, Infinite confetti bug has made its triumphant return?

[ashen tusk]

Wait could you guys interact with the friend shrine in aviary? I'm not able to I have to go to the constellation pad by the realm gates

[sudden pine]

there was infinite confetti before?!

[gilded tree]

Once upon a time during Belonging beta testing! (and maybe during the actual season...I forget)

When you previewed the emote from confetti cousin, but left the constellation view right as they did the confetti, you'd get infinite confetti it was very fun haha

Trying to revive my ancient ipad to see if I had old photos

[true reef]

It got changed to be shorter. I just submitted feedback about this I hope they revert it, the original looked way better

[sudden pine]

i have heard you could also get infinite confetti from the confetti machine somehow

[ashen tusk]

isn't that just jamming a candle under it and lighting it, I did that in my nest and it never stops until you leave

[sudden pine]

no it was something about them being in shared spaces

[ashen tusk]

Omg I visited home and interacted with daily shrine and everything exploded and now my nest is empty when I restarted

[autumn spindle]

Bubba what the heck is going with your game

[ashen tusk]

Wait now the friend shrine works for me too thanks crash I guess

Omg infinite any sparkles from emoting bug if you close out the menu

I have permanent laughter doodles from Cy memory

[sudden pine]

yea i got a permanent laugh too

[ashen tusk]

tall kids kneeling and clipping into the floor to address small kids: bullying

[sudden pine]

@ashen tusk send me one with spinning emote levelled up? 🙂

(alternatively anyone else send me one with spinning emote levelled up)

[dry ibex]

I keep crashing oh my god

Anyone else that just keeps crashing?

[gilded tree]

I found some old photos November 2019! Welcome back after 5 years infinite confetti bug

[sudden pine]

ours was not quite that enthusiastic (maybe it would have been better in night mode)

[ashen tusk]

Sorry I was checking the translation thing and then I got wrong off the spirits in the clouds I don’t think I have that emote levelled up

[sudden pine]

hm whats another one with lines

[late sonnet]

@ashen tusk omg you honked with me I hoped you would hehe

[ashen tusk]

If anybody sees a shared memory in aviary saying hello to bowser I'm just testing something

[maiden pond]

So long, King Bowser!

[dry ibex]

Okay so the devs will receive so many crash reports from me, sorry

[limber merlin]

Is the Eden stormlock bug still present?

[dry ibex]

No should be fixed

[frosty trout]

Hey all! I wanted to check—has anyone still had issues with getting all the EC Light for Days of Music or Alice/Feast, where the last orb or two or three of EC Light didn't register so that you couldn't quite forge that last ticket?

[sudden pine]

@dry ibex its nice to see you for the .1 seconds you appear

[sudden pine]

ok i can almost reliably get infinite confetti to happen 🙂

[dry ibex]

Lol 😭 my account is cursed

Yeah no it keeps logging me into aviary instead of home and keeps crashing me within 5 seconds, dang 😭. My alt is ok

[ashen tusk]

brb gonna go test

[ashen tusk]

Okay yes actually so I didn't collect any of the light from the idle appearing orbs but the big clumps when you first arrived I collected those and I was missing another full ticket (I fixed the full ticket thing I had before by sneaking enough orbs to achieve full ticket in a past build) and just now I had to collect one (1) singular idle orb to complete the full ticket because there was a fragment missing from collecting the big clumps

I hope this makes sense, I'll go yeet a bug report but I can resend my ID if you need it!

[frosty trout]

So, if I'm understanding right:

• At some point (today?), when you got EC light from the big clumps, you were missing a couple EC light orbs and so couldn't forge the remaining ticket that day (not counting any whole pickups hidden in the area)
• And then just now, you had collected all of the EC light clumps, but you were still one orb short of a full ticket

Is this correct?

[spark lance]

no shot the ts is gonna be the aurora group

[gentle belfry]

Hello! Anyone knows how to get the confetti glitch ?

[ashen tusk]

Well I do have full tickets now but only because of one single orb appearing #beta-bugs-ios message

basically

• showed up to event earlier grabbed two clumps, didn’t notice what it did to my ticket count cause I got side tracked by something
• showed up again after seeing your message here, checked my ticket count and saw that I was missing a full ticket, saw one single piece of wax near the guide and grabbed that, it filled my ticket
• spotted another clump of wax on the stage which gave me another 2 tickets
• so in total, 3 big clumps of wax in front and on stage, one single orb beside the guide = full tickets but I don’t know why it worked that way for me

Oh yay okay I dug out my alt and they have the same layout on theirs and no tickets so I'll record exactly what happens and send it over!

[frosty trout]

Thank you!

General FYI for everyone, but I updated yesterday's #beta-announcements post to specify that you should be able to get 4 full EC through DoMusic EC Light

[ashen tusk]

Oh good that's what I got on the alt so it appears to work as it should, my main is just.. something else sent over a video in feedback to go along with my earlier bug report, best of luck for the team poking at ticket bugs!

[sudden pine]

that camera in the theater is really challenging for music stuff (lots of unflattering spirit angles!)

[ashen tusk]

In other news I broke the music keyboard by opening a music sheet on the handpan stand then going to record a memory

[sudden pine]

bubba for some science, if you're online atm can you come join me and see a thing ?

[ashen tusk]

I'm submitting another bug report, gimme a moment

[sudden pine]

okies

[ashen tusk]

Omw!

[tough oasis]

Do we know how it looks in constellation when friend sends u msg? I'm playing basically solo so I can't look it up

[ashen tusk]

Like you opened a shared memory

[tough oasis]

So basically I need to click on everyone n check... Or is there any effect to see it from the constellation? (shimmery light, colour etc)?

[sudden pine]

in the constellation they have a dot

[ashen tusk]

Red dot of doom

[tough oasis]

Ohhhhh. Good. That is v eye catching 🤣🤣🤣

[ashen tusk]

oh boy I really hope ash and wes check their memory messages

[chrome oriole]

Does anyone else NOT have Moominmamma’s Masterpiece Cape in their shop? Update says it should be but the only thing in my shop was the new band pants

[scenic surge]

the swimming messages in #beta-screenshots-videos are IMMENSELY silly and i have to ask .. can you send them when getting krilled or in eden ||/ orbit|| ?

[ashen tusk]

No you have to be by the constellation to send one, you can however sit on the shards above the realm gate when it’s shard day though

[scenic surge]

ohhhh
ty for answering !

[sudden pine]

Oh no I have flown too close to the sun and now I am server erroring

[iron elbow]

beta gang, what happens when you put the nesting mask on the wall while wearing maskless. has anyone tested.

[scenic surge]

on a similar note would putting the aurora facepaint as your nesting mask be the equivalent of stickers or

[remote flame]

Beta seems to be down for now but once it's back I'm absolutely testing that (among other things)

[maiden pond]

Database migration?

[frosty trout]

Every year, as autumn approaches, the databases take note of the changing weather and shortening days, and they respond to an innate instinct to migrate.

[dry ibex]

I hope the databases migration magically fixes my crashing bug

[steady flume]

you place an invisible mask
I'd send a screenshot but I don't think it would be very helpful

[ashen tusk]

where does the database migrate to, warmer climates I assume?

[sudden pine]

they're like snowgeese, they have a big server farm they stop off at on the way

[remote flame]

Database is going south for the winter

[viral turtle]

Are you still working on the server?

[sonic raven]

interesting

[left quest]

Are they sending it down to my city?

[steady flume]

beta is back

[dry ibex]

I still load into the wrong home and crash bye again beta

[left quest]

Karik - 1
Sof - 0

[dry ibex]

the purgatory bug sounds nice now

[hollow ridge]

Please, bring back the old length of the Alice’s dress

[remote flame]

I actually like the shorter one, it'll probably go better with boots now

[iron elbow]

and the masks are tied to the walls, right?
otherwise this would've made a perfect trap to put in the middle of my nest corridor

[rugged kindle]

Yesss and it's even closer to the original illustration of the dress, so this version respects the original better

[steady flume]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
you can kiiinda place it on the ground but it's gonna float and not be upright 😭 it's not strictly tied to walls but it doesn't work well anywhere else

[iron elbow]

so you're telling me I can't build an invisible indestructible wall

[steady flume]

I wish
there's no collision

[iron elbow]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[chrome oriole]

Does anyone else NOT have Moominmamma’s Masterpiece Cape in their shop? Update says it should be but the only thing in my shop was the new band pants

[remote flame]

I've had the same issue that's the only thing there for me too, I am not sure it's unintentional

[frosty trout]

The cape might not be in your shop if you had redeemed all of the "IAP" shop items in 27.0 testing, I believe

[queen tendon]

Anyone else crashing in orbit after summoning Elders and trying to access their friendship tree?

[trim spade]

Yes everyone who tried crashes as well

[gilded parrot]

bruh...

[rugged kindle]

A very fitting reaction, skybot

[trim spade]

Indeed skybot

The game still gives a lot of server errors, but I could still collect candles

[rugged kindle]

@crude tulip we can't take things that are wip and testing in beta as what it will be like in live, as things might change. As far as I know it's unlikely if that would be final because we still collect the Event Currencies and typically newer items would cost EC so we have yet to see the final roster of items until the official announcement. Never trust anything posted outside the beta channels

[sonic raven]

That image is fake right?

[rugged kindle]

Can't tell ngl I'm not a beta tester but I always take things as messy wips like the 2023 feast item costed 1:1 as the ticket prices before changing

[agile hazel]

bunny hair for 150 tickets

[rugged kindle]

🗞️

[sonic raven]

I thought the items were only available to get from the candle shop so far

[rugged kindle]

The candle shop items were just for testing purposes

[crude tulip]

I’m very curious about alice in wonderland will be limited-one time likely Cinnamoroll Event?

[rugged kindle]

No clue given that Alice is a public domain

[lilac solstice]

Yeah. There's no where in game you can find the rabbit hair sold like that

[rugged kindle]

Oh so it's really fake?? scandalous

[crude tulip]

Finally the answer so that’s relief

[lilac solstice]

There were spells, but it was never for candles. Only through the iap shop in the beta bundle. We have no idea what it will be until it's announced in the future in News

[crude tulip]

Anyways, I deleted the fake image

[rugged kindle]

You can report it to tgc Stellify by dming them

[sonic raven]

maybe! since it's public domain + they combined it with days of feast
but we won't know until tgc announces the event

[lilac solstice]

Thank you! I understand being confused and needing to clarify here but you should definitely dm the image to @/stellify and report it!

[rugged kindle]

Thank you luci for confirming! It drives me mad that someone would make fake beta images to stir up rage against tgc

[crude tulip]

Thanks so much, I gonna the report it :3

[lilac solstice]

Well we don't really know why it was created. But we should probably move on before we get bonked by mods. Actually the Alice event has ended in beta for me when I logged in. Is this the same for everyone else?

[agile hazel]

Yeah just went on to check the image and the event ended

[trail lynx]

Yes it is.

[lilac solstice]

Gotcha. Good to know it seems to be gone now. I liked the balcony snow though I hope it's back soon

[ashen tusk]

Doot notes mentioned the event was finished but we can still test things via the door, I don't think I saw anything to buy there though but I wasn't looking I was staring at the manatee clipping through all the seats

[gilded parrot]

are mods real? I don't think they are. I've never seen one.

[lilac solstice]

I haven't had the chance to test, so I should probably go skim the doot notes again but good to know, thanks Bubba

I just noticed a very interesting detail actually. The Alice spirit will notice you if you fly to her table, and once she does, she will watch you around the whole room she's the only giant spirit who does this too!

[final minnow]

Oh that’s a sweet detail

[ashen tusk]

she's waiting for us to come back so she can fly swat us

[agile hazel]

Bringing out that electric swatter

[rotund ermine]

I think the dress goes better with capes

[lilac solstice]

Not if I swat back

But yeah I had noticed when I popped on for a short time that she was watching me. I didn't see it happen today until I actually flew over to her and then she watched me.

[gilded parrot]

we gotta go DEEPER

[rugged kindle]

Now guess who's gonna get swatted (skybot)

[gilded parrot]

Sounds like it!

[sudden pine]

skybot its not that deep

[lilac solstice]

Even skybot agrees

[rugged kindle]

whacks you

[trail lynx]

XD

[chrome oriole]

But I don’t have that cape in my closet Only in a spell
Also wasn’t there a cape for the invisible child at one point? I never saw it either
Opps! I lied I just it. Thanks Sagomay your help

[exotic river]

The one you call Moominmama's cape is actually the cape of the invisible child (Ninny)

[chrome oriole]

That’s what Sagomy calls it in the update info

[exotic river]

Yeah I mean it's a single cape, not 2

[chrome oriole]

Ahhh gotcha. Well I found it so thanks so much

[static oriole]

help, that alice dress is so short now. i didnt realise from the pics earlier but wehn i went online i realised it was SHORT

i feel like alice;s skirts should be below the knees or smth

[rugged kindle]

It's already around the knees, since alice's original depictions have her dresses around there

[gilded parrot]

Sounds like it!

[gilded parrot]

🧠

just chillin, waiting to hear something cool

[rugged kindle]

skybot have you ever heard about the spider pants bug

[cinder gulch]

I reckon her dress must be a bit more puffier at the very least

[static oriole]

yesss

definitely needs to be puffier

[hollow ridge]

The comparation that I saw is the best one: older version - beauty and the beast vibes, a fairy tale. The new one is like a schoolgirl dress

[iron elbow]

I mean, isn't alice the latter

[agile hazel]

Yeah if you're going by the book the dress only goes down to her knees

[dry ibex]

Does anyone else crash 😭. Both homespace and aviary just instantly crash me, I have 4 seconds to escape if I’m lucky

[agile hazel]

Stormlock ❌
Homelock ✅

Nah they're both fine for me

[dry ibex]

Dang, yeah I’m cursed 😭. I think it might have something to do with the memories because it’s the only thing I tested before I was jailed again

Seems account-specific too, because my alt is completely fine

[late sonnet]

ngl I like the shorter one because it's closer to schoolgirl lol
feels similar to my old school uniform I wore for many years

aw sending a memory crashed my game

[cinder gulch]

Dang how's everyone cursed with crashing game bug

I got crashed when I tried to open elder vault ult gift tree 😭

[rugged kindle]

Alice is literally at the schoolgirl age isn't it and that's what the length in all the illustrations featuring the yellow dress shows, giving the blue socks up to her knees a prominence

#beta-screenshots-videos message

Also I noticed, the 1st version is weirdly heavy at the bottom ngl

[final minnow]

I don’t mind the length but i do hope they keep it slim like the 2nd ver because it looks cute

[rugged kindle]

yeah! Slim dress feels nice to me

[agile hazel]

@pure sedge the blue dress is the Disney version of Alice

[pure sedge]

Oh, that makes sense, but didn't Ever After High do the same thing with Alice's son? I felt like that was more of a media thing than just Disney.

[agile hazel]

Never heard of that

[late sonnet]

looked it up and I've never heard of it before either

looks fun though
like winx club adjacent XD

[rugged kindle]

Ohh I've never seen that before

Tbh I've seen a lot of media take after Disney's depiction of Alice because the movie was a hit at that time so yea it's more like an influence in media

[pure sedge]

Ever After High is like The Descents, but with better characters and costumes. It's show like Monster High, but instead of Monsters, its with Fairytales and what not.

[pure sedge]

Yeah. I mean the blue dress looks a lot better than the yellow, that's why when I saw the TGC version I got a little confused until you posted the early illustrations.

[sonic raven]

Disney copied the idea to be competition

[pure sedge]

Yeah, I was upset when I found that out.

[rugged kindle]

Oh really?? never surprised ngl lmao

[rugged kindle]

Mhmm! I was like oh where did the dress come from and then I looked up Alice illustrations and found out about that too! I love scouring the early works after being diluted by modern media depictions

[pure sedge]

Lol, same

[iron elbow]

we all know the real reason why people want the blue version - to cosplay american mcgee's alice
(but even that one had that exact same yellow dress as one of the skins )

[pure sedge]

I've seen the black and white video of it and I always thought it was blue lol. But didn't know that the dress was yellow

[rugged kindle]

Oh damn never heard of that version of Alice and she looks spooky, perfect for mischief event ngl lmao

[iron elbow]

the media she comes from isn't family friendly, so yeah, no 😭

[pure sedge]

Dang

[trail lynx]

That's what I've been saying lately to people who are talking bad about this version of Alice's dress. The previous version, in which the dress was long, was good, but the dress was too long for that type of clothing and it was disproportionate. While Alice's outfit was also good and goes up to her knees, like Alice's dress in the book, completely corresponding. It's only critical that they could have increased/widened the volume of the skirt of Alice's dress, since her dress, in the case the skirt, is quite wide at the sides, not to mention the lack of details in the dress, which is very simple for my taste.

[rugged kindle]

It does seem to be a simplified version of the alice dress, I guess that's Sky's way of things but I'd love for them to add more blue accents to it too

[trail lynx]

The worst thing about TGC in these things, in the case of clothing cosmetics, they simplify it a lot, not that they can't do that, because they can give a lot of details if they want.

[late sonnet]

Yeah because they follow a style guide so that cosmetics are cohesive with others in the game

[trail lynx]

Yab

[rugged kindle]

Well, in my personal opinion as an artist, sometimes we can't overcomplicate things and the simpler, the better it is to convey the shapes, expression and personalities. It's not really a bad thing to me

[late sonnet]

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing than it is just one interpretation of the medium so if you want it any other way just make it yourself tbh

[rugged kindle]

Yeah, simpler silhouette or colours makes outfits easier to read for the eyes

I personally don't really like the hyper realistic games for that reason like, elden ring for example there's just so much going on, but every games have their own specific styles and rules

[late sonnet]

I don't really see the argument between long and short dress it's still a dress in the end ngl
The other fem dresses in the game are usually quite long

[trail lynx]

I understand too and I'm also an artist lol.
If the case of Alice's dress, it's actually a very simple dress itself, but the skirt part of Alice's dress has some good details, which they could have added to make her dress more, let's say "alive".

[rugged kindle]

I looked at the illustration, yup I do see some details, like the blue part going to the back ribbon bow, I assume that tgc didn't make this detail so that the big ribbon stands out nicely

[trail lynx]

Maybe.

[iron elbow]

you could make an edit to visualize your idea better and send it to feedback
the "alive" feel is a bit too vague of a description on its own

[trail lynx]

I usually do this and send it in the feedback lol.
But it's not worth doing it now and sending it as feedback, as TGC is putting the finishing touches on the Alice event.

[timber grotto]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
don't think it would make sense for them to change it to blue as they're going based on the original illustrations, not disney's popularized version also finally yellow pants AND even better it's a dress.

[rugged kindle]

More yellow outfit!!

[pure sedge]

Yeah, but I hope they change into more of a pastel yellow than a hard yellow

[short charm]

I think because people are more familiar with the blue one, not because of Disney, but because the color match fits perfectly on Alice than the yellow, i don't see Alice with a green, purple or a red dress, but i understand that the yellow one because it came first before the more common light blue

[timber grotto]

oh yeah paired with that dark blue looks so good :3

[late sonnet]

oh…I have the same crashing problem now 😔
same 4 seconds of brief freedom before the game shuts down

[queen tendon]

Yes, exactly this. Bug report sent.

[solemn lion]

Is there anyone who can't get a gift package for a new piano?🥹

[dry ibex]

Goodluck, theres no escape. Do you remember what you did exactly?

You can run into a realm and be free but as soon as you enter home or aviary you’re done

[late sonnet]

same as you, before I got off last I was messing around with the memory messages

[agile hazel]

This is your penance

[late sonnet]

well I have 3.1k SC I'm fine 😌

[gray anvil]

I got several server error messages which go away after shooing them off. No crashing.

[dry ibex]

do you remember how many memories you’ve received approximately? And what your last candle was?

For me it was a camera memory I think, but I don’t know which ones I’ve received after

[late sonnet]

I had 4 concurrent going? I've also sent like 5-6 separate probably

the only thing I've done with mine was play instruments

[dry ibex]

I’d say report it as a bug aside from the crash reports we send in from TestFlight :’). hopefully it’s resolved soon

[steady flume]

it seems to be the amount you send
i also crashed after sending 4 just now, and i keep crashing if i spend more than 4 seconds at home
i also sent a few memories yesterday but idk if those also count

[ashen tusk]

So if you send 4 different ones or like 4 to the same person in a row

[steady flume]

i sent them to 4 different friends

[agile hazel]

looks at pfp
Yeah 4 is a cursed number

[steady flume]

you get it 🙏

[craggy gull]

I still thinking about that one cape at the beginning of testing mischief... the stars... the orange... the pointed ends.. a mistake that was meant to be

[final minnow]

Well I’ve sent 4 to 3 people and I’m not dealing with crashes

[steady flume]

i think i've sent offline memories to like 7 different people in total but i'm not 100% sure

[ashen tusk]

Honestly when it was just Sof it was like alright there her account goes again but maybe y’all are cursed too

[exotic river]

"Jupiter was supposed to be a star but failed" ahh cape

[agile hazel]

A brown dwarf is a bigger failure than Jupiter

[sudden pine]

surprised i didnt get cursed for all my memory derping yesterday

[dry ibex]

beta jail club

[dry ibex]

Oops I sent 4 to you on my alt as well, let’s see if my alt is alive

[agile hazel]

From soflock to hardlock 🥹

[dry ibex]

Join us

[dry ibex]

My alt lives

Oh maybe it’s because I didn’t receive any on my alt?

[steady flume]

i sent to 4 different friends so maybe that's why lmao

[dry ibex]

Oh yeah I only have 2 friends on that account and one of them is you

[steady flume]

since if you keep sending memories to the same person you just keep replacing them

[dry ibex]

True

[ashen tusk]

man I still can't believe they gave us fur hat and then took it away like that pls tgc I'm sobbing, I miss the boots too :(

[steady flume]

does anyone else crash in valley temple? i'm trying to figure out if it's related to the crashing bug

[agile hazel]

You think the more messages you send the whackier the bugs are

[steady flume]

would love to test but I can't send more because I crash before I can even open the constellation

[gilded parrot]

can sky constellations go in retrograde?

[ashen tusk]

you should definitely #beta-feedback that, maybe the devs could make them go into retrograde just for you

[trail lynx]

XD

[opaque hedge]

Did you guys notice if there's an indication saying that your friend have seen the memory you sent them in the friend constellation? I dont think I remember seeing one. Or my friends just havent seen it yet in beta

[maiden pond]

In my opinion, (will send to #beta-feedback later) there needs to be a way for us to respond to these messages. And/or possibly like it/send a heart. I know this is still early on but hearts are still hard to come by and giving players the ability to gift two hearts at once (three or more if you consider shared creations in different places) can really help players in the long run. And yes, you can even ask for a heart trade if you're too introverted or socially anxious to ask in person and it's probably the best way to let people know ahead of time or in different timezones that you wish to stop these trades. And/or let them know about anything really.

[agile hazel]

Couldn't you 'respond' by sending them a message?

[maiden pond]

Maybe so, but I was moreso giving the idea of a private conversation comment section. But that works too.

I do think we can probably at least get the ability to like the message, though. Heart gifting the message seems like overkill though.

[tired flume]

I heard that Alice's skirt became shorter after the update. Is this true?

[lilac solstice]

It seems it did! If you liked the longer dress, you should send it in #beta-feedback

[indigo spire]

Just out of curiosity, how do beta players know what the beta TS is going to be since it's not the same as live game?

Oh, that's interesting! :0
If I'm not mistaken, next week's is... Scarecrow? I might be off lol

[craggy elbow]

did we ever got the alice dress? i thought the event was over

[final minnow]

Yeah it was available in the shop

[gray anvil]

The dress was in the shop for like 3 days.

[tawdry pine]

That's a lot of text in the screenshot chat

[ashen tusk]

Oh I crashed bowing at the spirits to claim a daily

It did it again, apparently I can claim a daily by clicking the button but woe betide me if I bow

[exotic river]

They don't want us to be respectful

[craggy elbow]

😔 ah i lost the window to buy it
hope its avalible next year

[cursive cobalt]

gasps another arsonist

[late sonnet]

so ya'll know how homespace constellation crashes you

so apparently orbit constellation also crashes you

[steady flume]

are you stuck now 😭

valley temple also makes me crash

[lethal sedge]

Will Alice come back in next build?

What does pancake or waffle mean?

[final minnow]

!wafo Wait and find out

[gilded parrot]

🧇 Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta or Live Any Beta announcements will be made in ⁠#beta-announcements, and Live announcements will be made in #news!

[lethal sedge]

Oh

Ty

[late sonnet]

So sit down karik for the story of my battle against the game crashing

1. I reopened and storm lock actually saved me because you can't access the constellation there but you can get the seasonal candle + dailies which is impossible in normal home (not that it matters in this case but it was dope
2. returning to orbit just made my game crash once the constellation loaded in so I opted for good ol' faithful chibi fall through the Eden gate, only to be crashed once I homed JUST BEFORE I RAN INTO PRAIRIE IT WAS EVIL (I also realised that in storm lock after the first restart I had all my permanent buffs so it was fine to attempt the scuffed escape)
3. restarted the game again and bolted in, and was fine I guess

But for a moment I was like did I get locked into Eden

[rugged kindle]

I love how beta testers truly tested the limits with the offline friend shared messages

[steady flume]

ohhh right, no constellation in stormlocked home that's the final confirmation that it's because of the offline messages haha

[late sonnet]

Yeah but that doesn't explain why orbit crashes

[agile hazel]

[Scene] Night time with cy sitting at the campfire in the dark forest with a bunch of skids, thunder and lighting in the background.

[steady flume]

valley temple also crashes me but prairie and forest temples don't
I was thinking that maybe it's because of the old starfield memorial constellation thing in the valley elder oob but yeah i don't get this bug

[late sonnet]

It crashed me earlier when I got there too, I was in the middle of lighting the candles 😔

[late sonnet]

Oh yeah and to run Eden to begin with I had to complete vault all the way to the top so that was fun because that's the only portal I can enter

[pure sedge]

I kind of wonder if they're gonna expand the map of Eden?

[desert coyote]

I was thinking about that portal where is the events shop and I guess its the permanent meditation area portal from skyfest

[late sonnet]

it's disappeared though

[trail lynx]

They removed the portal and it is like a construction zone. While the store above was previously Season of Revival, it is now the Event Store.

[trail lynx]

[trim spade]

Just a PSA, the US changed our time to winter. It’s now an hour back. So reset is now an hour later for yall who don’t do time change

[hollow cape]

Honestly I have to say I'm quite surprised just updated sky beta and saw the FPS options on my phone

[sonic raven]

!daylightsavings

[gilded parrot]

In the world of Sky, candles and daily quests reset for everyone daily at the same time! Daylight Saving Time will end at 2AM Pacific Time on November 3, 2024, where TGC is located.

❗ If you are in a region that does not observe this time change, after November 3, daily reset will occur an hour later for you!

Reset time before: <t:1730530800:t>
Reset time after: <t:1730707200:t>
🕐 (These timestamps are in your local time!)

[sudden pine]

Happy time change day beta

[thin scarab]

hello

[pure sedge]

Hello

[pure sedge]

@late sonnet wait, aren't they also planning on capeless skykids? I remember NastyMold mentioning something like that

[late sonnet]

that wasn't mentioned in beta anywhere in recent times though
would need more context on that

[lyric knoll]

is there a reason people can still have beta access after several years

[pure sedge]

Oh, okay. Ig that was false info then

[late sonnet]

android does not kick testers for inactivity, ios does.

[lyric knoll]

interesting, thank you

[trim spade]

I unblocked a friend to delete them, and they got lost in my constellation. Watch me forget I unblocked them and need to unfruend. We need a search function

Also I’m calling next season be the animation project related

[solid dune]

appears
||sus among us||
disappears

[timber grotto]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
LET'S GO

[agile hazel]

Give it another 45 mins

[late sonnet]

3.9k candles with conversion

[late sonnet]

it's nice that after my game crashed and restarted the game it just all loaded in as is and I don't need to suffer the blingblinglinglinglinglingling

[old kindle]

I'm a little behind you, I have 3.6

[cinder wing]

The last two days when I enter to sky he asked me to login twice

[shell stump]

Does anyone know when Days of feast ended in beta and When will days of music end?

[sonic raven]

#beta-announcements
The Alice/Feast event is not enabled in this build. However, please test the portal prop’s function that takes you to the Wonderland Cafe and let us know how it works, your experience in the cafe, etc.

[surreal widget]

Guys any news about the invisible cape ever existing in Live?

[robust root]

still not planned to be released

[surreal widget]

So no info at all for now?

[agile hazel]

The invisible cape is not coming to live at all. You're thinking of the pants

[robust root]

nope

[shy ore]

That gives me a lil confused LMAO. @~@

[robust root]

There are Two invisible cosmetics :
the invisible cape, been to beta for a while and is not planned to be released in live
The invisible pants, which is an Collab cosmetic from Season of Moomin, and will be available in live when all seasonal quests are done

[shy ore]

OH WAIT, I MISREADED!
I THOUGHT IT'S ABOUT NINNY'S CAPE! THE INVISIBLE CAPE! OMG!

[trim spade]

Ninny has invisible pants not cape

[robust root]

oh yeah ninny cape is def coming, that's the collab cape with the special feature

[shy ore]

What is wrong with my Moomin enthusiasm?

[robust root]

nothing, it was just funny how quickly misunderstandings can happen

[trim spade]

Tbh the invisible cape is great and I hope it never gets to live. It’s like our own little beta secret

[shy ore]

True. Sorry for my misunderstanding cuz of my enthusiasm.

[trim spade]

Don’t feel sorry, enthusiasm is beautiful

[robust root]

Season been great so far, so i can understand feeling pretty excited

[cinder gulch]

Not tryina being a 🤓
But the main reason invins cape will never come to live ver is cus it defies the literal lore of sky

[rugged kindle]

Ye it's beta only for the outfit visibility to test

[agile hazel]

It wasn't really meant to be achievable even in beta, if it wasn't for the abyss candle bug only a handful of people would have it

[maiden pond]

Wasn't there another incident like that Abyss candle bug in beta? ||Only the real ones remember the Hiking Grouch incident in Live. 😎||

[dry ibex]

I love the Jam station so much actually - really love how we’re able to change out the instruments.

Haven’t been able to test this much in the latest build, but the oooonly thing I wish was that we could pause or mute individual instruments. Not sure if that’s possible now?

[agile hazel]

What flavour jam tho?

[covert gull]

where are days of music supposed to be live? in november or in december?

[sonic raven]

We don't know yet. Wait for the announcement for live

[frosty trout]

Hey all! I've heard that there are changes of some kind with the shoes on a Duets outfit. Does anyone have specifics about that? 👀

[late sonnet]

well the duets shoes toes are still missing when combo'd with gay suspenders so there's that

otherwise I'm randomly combining shoes with duets pants and I don't see any big difference

[frosty trout]

It sounds like there's a change to their appearance in beta vs. live

[late sonnet]

the duets shoes or the pants themselves

[frosty trout]

Shoes I believe

[void finch]

hi beta chat will moomin map be gone after the season ends?

[rugged kindle]

High doubt it will be gone because of things like winged light, emotes and post season guide cosmetics (potentially?) only available on the moomin map (also the map itself is still visible in the map shrine)

Just beta being beta, it breaks

[deep spire]

🤝 please be the morning/dawn star ember.. Imagine if we would finally get the eden crown in this lore based season, after several years of wanting it i just wanna see the old isle of dawn! The one shown on the mutliple movie teasers and in the nintendo trailer

[maiden pond]

Eden crown would be awesome, but I'd like to keep it as a permanent cosmetic too that can only be achieved by obviously bringing the rest of the Elder masks.

Here's what I'd like to happen: we get this season that introduces the rest of the masks and then the famous Eden crown. I want there to be a long term, (and I mean LONG term, as in probably two years at least) for us to get all the Elder masks and then finally be able to unlock the Eden crown for free. It probably shouldn't be another pricey item but rather something to reward us for getting all the Elder masks.

It can act as the ultimate shield, but at the cost of some variables maybe? I'm not sure yet.

[rugged kindle]

That would be hella awesome! I think it's like an ultimate ultimate basegame goal to have

[maiden pond]

Think of it as more of a mythical item instead of a ultimate. I want free to play players getting an opportunity to get something an extraordinary amount of work should be rewarded with.

[gray anvil]

ultimate elder mask, you can tank krill hits twice as much

[rugged kindle]

Cuz the crown was already modelled as of the Light Awaits so it's just there awaiting to be released I suppose so it's definitely something like a basegame "ultimate" item

[deep spire]

as long as we have another halo like thing like the wolf mask (or anubis for some peeps) is a win win EDEN CROWNNN IM CALLIN ITT

[maiden pond]

I want them to go back and use it again. It's definitely able to be reused again if given the opportunity.

[deep spire]

why do i feel like the dawn star is the king himself? like we see in the prophecy murals.. couldn't the shiny sky kid be the prince/dawn ember /dawn star? (since it is in isle too )

[maiden pond]

I really don't want it to be used as a seasonal cosmetic, either. It's something that deserves to be implemented in the main lore of the game. Something that is so mythical only few people have this item.

[rugged kindle]

is it beta topic though
From what I've seen, the dawn and dusk represent the different period of time of the sky kingdom so dawn definitely represents the beginning when light was aplenty

[rugged kindle]

I don't doubt it would be permanent ngl, bc shattering introduced the elder masks as permanent item, and some permanent items the other seasons had released so far

Given that the elder crown is an ultimately basegame item that even existed since LA so it's something permanent in mind

[deep spire]

imagine having the lush isle map with da trees as in the trailers...........

when thinking of it, the eden crown is literally the eden castle above your head

[maiden pond]

I am thinking about it, and it would make sense if the Dawn Ember represented Isle, Prairie, and Forest.

Then Dusk can represent Valley, Wasteland, and Vault.

[rugged kindle]

Carrying the weight of the kingdom literally

[deep spire]

not to mention we have the queen's tiara and with that, carrying with us the weight of the queendom

[rugged kindle]

Does it mean the Orbit is the megabird's queendom

[deep spire]

wait WAIT I NEED A MEGABIRD BASED SEASON WITH MEGABIRD'S OWN CROWN??

[maiden pond]

I just hope if they do the Sky: Two Embers seasons, they bring back this Eden crown. It wouldn't make much sense to not implement it in my opinion.

[rugged kindle]

That would be so cool ngl

[deep spire]

meaning we got a queen and a goddess omg grey, imagine 😌

[rugged kindle]

Also this kinda has gone off beta rails

@deep spire YESSSS a goddess ✨️

[maiden pond]

Speaking of beta, I haven't checked but has Music and Feast ended already?

[timber grotto]

feast ended, music ends in a couple of hours

[rugged kindle]

Ayo so soon

[deep spire]

Exactly. Let's end this discussion even if it was fun you guys 😭 hope we get this crown. How can't we after all this is heavily lore based. and also yes how come we cant tp to the moomin area anymore? hope it is a bug

[maiden pond]

It might be a bug, yeah. They'll give us an update to fix it probably.

[rugged kindle]

definitely a bug bc you can still see the season emblem behind the curtain as well as things that should be accessible like WL and the emotes, hearts from the guides

[deep spire]

have you guys saw a post about why we are butterflies instead of sky kids? (on sky's socials) 😭

[rugged kindle]

Yeah I saw! It's indeed intentional. There are many reasons and the IP agreement is one of them

[maiden pond]

I have not.

[rugged kindle]

go check their socials like insta / twitter

[deep spire]

yeah! at least we got a cozy house.. But would have loved to explore the moominvalley, i'm heartbroken

[deep spire]

😔

[rugged kindle]

It's okay, still a new experience for us to enjoy after all

[near trellis]

Hello, how do I play the beta version?

[deep spire]

WELL SAID GREY OwO

[rugged kindle]

Also we can go with friends as butterflies

[deep spire]

i forgot that too 😭

[rugged kindle]

hide n seek as butterflies LOL

[maiden pond]

I just seen it.

[rugged kindle]

Also let's parkour to #beta-season-test-chat lmao

[deep spire]

i guess we are going to wait for another 3 weeks before the new season arrive 😌 and then the chaos will be back

[deep spire]

alrighty

[timber grotto]

is this a parkour civilization reference

[rugged kindle]

Nooooooo

[spark lance]

so are there any perks to being a beta player? i cant become one, but i was just wondering what it's like.

[trim spade]

The perks are grinding for two Sky games, including Eden and wl runs. But you get to experience wacky and sometimes fun or pretty bugs. Also you can leave feedback and participate in changing the way early iterations of cosmetics look, but you don’t have to be in beta for that. We also get play tests with devs occasionally which is fun too

[spark lance]

dang, maybe i'll buy a phone and apply for beta 😭 i wanna be able to help make everyone's experiences a bit better i know its not all sunshine and rainbows, but yeah

[meager obsidian]

Guys I'm having an issue

[final minnow]

You don’t apply for beta. You have to wait for a beta invite when the devs need more beta testers

[meager obsidian]

It's telling me please check my internet connection if we having server issues

[spark lance]

thats what i was meaning, sorry, i meant that i'd be there when invites were open so i could maybe get to be one 😭

[slow acorn]

Any news on feast items?

[cinder gulch]

They kept the etc chat in live mischief

[gray anvil]

What sort of news? Testing for feast has ended in beta.

[wary fulcrum]

hi just wanna ask
is the upcoming alice winter event thing a limited event again? kinda like the cinnamorolov one?

and if yes, does that mean that the iaps are limited edition too

[iron elbow]

we genuinely don't know
all we have to go off of is that alice is in the public domain, so tgc is free to bring back these characters whenever they please

[timber grotto]

personally, not sure since alice is public domain and not exclusive like cinnamoroll event, which is owned by sanrio

[wary fulcrum]

hmmm i see i see 🤔 honestly i hope the iap stays or if they dont, i hope tgc tells us if itll be a one time thing
thank you 👁️jaws👁️ and jumpscare

[burnt creek]

So, I have something I really wanna feedback, but I kinda wanna talk about it here first

The new "DM" feature is really cool and all, but it just feels like a shared memory spell placed on the friendship constellation

I thought of something different

It would still be a recorded message, but it would replace your friend's model when you're viewing your friend on the constellation

It would be smoother and would feel more like a message sent in that private constellation of yours

Ofc the limitation would be that you wouldn't be able to move, only use emotes and talk, but it would feel more like a private message

Kinda like a hologram message (but it doesn't need to look like a hologram)

[rugged kindle]

What would replace your friend's model though :o I don't understand the phrasing

[burnt creek]

You know when you're viewing your friend in the constellation and it shows their skykid?

I wish that skykid in the same position would interact with you on the messages

Instead of it taking you out of the constellation and returning to the home area, in order to view a shared memory

[rugged kindle]

Ohhh I thought it already kinda does that bc you viewed the messages right in the constellation (the button is in the same menu)

[burnt creek]

But it takes you out of it, and becomes a regular shared memory

Feels kinda jarring to me and I would love to see the skykid in the constellation itself interacting with me!

[rugged kindle]

Ohh "interacting with you" as in?

[burnt creek]

It would still be a private message

[rugged kindle]

Cuz in my head interaction is direct actions like lighting their candles

[burnt creek]

I meant talking to you or doing emotes

Anyway, what do you think of this, as opposed to the current approach?

Im gonna make a concept of it later, if I still wasn't able to explain it properly

[rugged kindle]

hmm it already is technically private messages I.e. only you can view it 🤔

[maiden pond]

It would be more interesting if it used a model where you could use friendship emotes you've unlocked with them like hug or all the way up to Double Bow.

[burnt creek]

I know my issue is not really being private or not

It's just the approach of how the message is shown

I'm trying my best to explain but I'm tired so my english is not at its best state lol

[rugged kindle]

That defeats the purpose of the "message", which is meant to be like a letter without a direct interaction

In a hindsight, being able to hug a message memory would be so cute

[burnt creek]

Anyway, my idea was

The mannequin on your friend's menu on the constellation would be what sends the messages and does emotes/plays songs, etc

It would all appear on that menu

[maiden pond]

Well, they do have plans to make multiplayer shared memories so it's not too far off the bat.

[burnt creek]

As opposed to showing the message to you outside of the constellation

That's what I've been trying to say

[rugged kindle]

Ngl I don't see any relation between these two. Multiplayer shared memories means that you and your friend both can record one shared memory and leave it in the realms

[burnt creek]

Your friend's mannequin is already there, so why not use that to tell you the messages?

That's what I thought, what do you think?

You would view it in that private space that is your constellation menu, instead of in the home area

[maiden pond]

The only relation is that you two will be able to do friendship emotes with each other as opposed to not being able to do so in a single player shared memory, I guess that does sound confusing, yes.

[rugged kindle]

That new feature specifically acts like a letter to your offline friends so I don't know if it's beneficial to allow friendship emotes there

[maiden pond]

It would probably be too much time and effort to make friendship emotes work in a private memory anyways, probably not worth it. I just said it would be interesting to see.

[rugged kindle]

hm nah I don't see it at all. For the messages, you and your friend are separated by servers / timezones, so you both don't exist in the same place at the same time.

As for multiplayer shared memory, I believe it means that both you AND your friend are in the same place, doing all sorts of interactions together whilst sharing a recording, I think that's what they meant by that

It's not the same thing imo

[maiden pond]

It's not the same thing at all, I know.

[burnt creek]

I'm sorry but, you guys haven't responded me at all, I'm not trying to be rude too, just a reminder, sorry if I'm bothering

[rugged kindle]

I don't see any benefit doing a friendship emote with a literal hologram of your friend. Messages are just that. Messages

[burnt creek]

[maiden pond]

Yeah, it's just something that would be interesting that would be implemented.

Also I understand what you mean by that.

[rugged kindle]

We're both talking to each other so don't take it too personally by the way, and we'll get back to you if we know what to respond

[burnt creek]

Thanks for being nice about it too, I just felt that maybe you were focused on the friendship emotes thing and forgot about what I asked

[rugged kindle]

Yeahh its difficult to switch between topics at a time for me, so I'd prefer to talk about 1 topic at a time especially in servers like this

[burnt creek]

I just wanted to discuss it here cuz I thought that if only I feedbacked about it, there wouldn't be a change, but I think it would be such a cool change that I can't just leave it behind

[rugged kindle]

Let me tell you feedbacks are directly sent to tgc devs, as they usually don't look through chats, so no worries if you only feedback

[burnt creek]

So I hope to interest more people on it by introducing the idea on the chat

[maiden pond]

Yeah, the friendship emotes being able to be used in a memory feels like it'd be too much work. It would be really weird too. But if it worked out somehow, then honestly it would be interesting to see.

But yes, moving on I agree the model of the player we call down should be the same model used in recordings of messages.

[burnt creek]

Oh yea, I know, I meant that I hope to interest more people in the idea so the feedback has more chances of being added

[upbeat ore]

Tbh makes sense. But it'll probably be harder to implement, constellation is already loaded with a lot of functionality, it also might mean that you won't be able to use props, etc. Plus what if your friend changed their outfit after sending the message, is that important to keep or not etc

[burnt creek]

I know they're actively listening to it, they just can't keep track of every small idea, so it'd be cool to have more people interested in it

That's basically what this channel is for, isn't it? :3c

[rugged kindle]

Oh yeah I just realised a problem: the models you call down in the constellation often wear the recent cosmetics and props from the last time they're online, so if they share a message while wearing a different cosmetic or outfits, that would cause problems such as disrespancies. For example if your friend said "hey friend look I've got a hat!" Or playing an instrument, it wouldn't show up on the same model you call down and cause confusion or weird things imo

[burnt creek]

Oh, yeah. These are things to keep in mind, but it can still be done, mlst stuff in development goes through some challenges in decision-making, but I feel like this one is completely doable

[rugged kindle]

Same brain poison

[maiden pond]

Honestly? While the devs do look through the feedback channel, they may also look through regular chats like this one from time to time and may even be listening to our wishes, desires, bug stories, and more. It's not all the time, but I'd like to point out Brian, one of the devs, did fix something a person in another chat pointed out before, and there may be more examples of these, but for now I'm not going to tug my hair out on finding proof of it.

[burnt creek]

They can change that, though, if shared memories can keep track of it, so can the player model

Remember, the shared memory model is just the player model with a spirit-like shader

[late sonnet]

I backread and I still don't see what your point was, mei
what are you trying to advocate for?

[burnt creek]

That's also true, I also sent a video of a camera bug on #beta-screenshots-videos and a dev replied with "fixed!"

[maiden pond]

(Side note I really hope they're listening in on the Eden crown conversation we had yesterday...)

[rugged kindle]

That still would mean switching out the model you summon upon with another model they used for the recording (for example your friend is wearing chibi mask and short, but your current friend is normal sized), so their models would be switched out but that still would cause issues regardless

Shared memory is probably the most efficient way to do it

[rugged kindle]

But still we can't disregard the importance of sending feedbacks tbh if you have ideas you want to advocate for, throw a feedback letter instead of waiting and chatting away

[upbeat ore]

They want the friend model that's summoned in the constellation to show the contents of the private message instead of it being basically a private shared memory

[burnt creek]

I wish the model/mannequin of the player we call down would be the same model used in recordings of
direct messages

[burnt creek]

They can just redo the calling down animation with the new model when you click to view message

[late sonnet]

so you just want the skid avatar model to remain consistent and not change because you just decided to change the fit after you made the initial message?

[burnt creek]

No no, it's the place where it appears

[late sonnet]

what

[burnt creek]

Instead of appearing like a shared memory, it would be like a hologram on the friendship menu, on the same place as your friend model, even if they change clothes

[timber grotto]

huh

[maiden pond]

Oh I'm fully aware, I once had an idea for a companion app literally called "Candle Run". In it, you can walk (or run) with your phone in your pocket and it'd count your steps. It can convert to light pieces in the actual game for example, but possibly with a limit on how many you can earn a day. I once sent this idea to #live-feedback.

[rugged kindle]

Isn't...shared memory a hologram

[burnt creek]

I'll make a concept later, I think everyone is gonna understand when I do so

[timber grotto]

did you mean make the shared memory to move instead of just being in one place?

[burnt creek]

Yes but it plays outside of the friendship menu

[late sonnet]

so instead of an animated shared memory
you just want like...only the message to appear + stationary skid or something?

like you don't want it to be a shared memory you only want a message?

[rugged kindle]

They also want uhhh the skykid to emote too but still within the constellation friendship menu

[late sonnet]

cuz right now if you play the message memory and tap the screen, it takes you back out of it into the friendship menu btw

[rugged kindle]

Oh yeah do props show up on the shared messages

[timber grotto]

can sky kids emote during the shared message?

[maiden pond]

I get what Mei is trying to say. They want a model of the player we call down in our constellation to be the same exact model used in private memory recordings too. But it seems like it'd interfere with how the player who recorded it if the player who made it changed their outfit.

[late sonnet]

is that not what is currently happening though
like when you play the memory it updates to the current fit of the player

[burnt creek]

I want the outfit to change too, and I feel like that's completely doable

[maiden pond]

Not quite. It plays a "memory" version of the player.

[rugged kindle]

Yeah that's why I'm a bit confused, the concept is almost similar to current build but just slightly different

[late sonnet]

it's not like the regular in world shared memories where it locks in the fit you wore for that memory, it updates to what new one the player memory maker wears

[burnt creek]

But the memory plays outside of the player menu on the constellation

The message*

[late sonnet]

and why is that a problem