beta-discussion

[desert berry]

I hope they make it candle priced! It’s such a cute set

[royal vapor]

It might be for moth players packed with some candles to sell as high price oh no 💀

[autumn elk]

I think they are to be “universal” starter packs all other starter packs are platform exclusives so these are options for all platforms

[old nymph]

i wish there were more beards in sky, i wanna cosplay Cassian Andor

[tulip turtle]

Well it could've been anything but our iconic moth slang for noobies like cmon , putting that behind a paywall just cuz we want it = more profit Nah man that's a bummer like come on Tgc give us something we want for once , Everything is possible when we stand toghether strong , so let's make moth pack non iAP

[naive viper]

Fr fr, they've really gotta stop making item packs with only 1-2 items like $15, compared to other live service games you can get entire fortnight skins (which is a whole character and entire outfit) for that amount of money

[autumn elk]

My hopes are that its reasonably priced but im gonna guess its at least 20 usd each. Based on other packs similar

[molten sun]

these packs are most likely gonna be 20 dollars

[royal vapor]

15$ is the most kind dreaming. Me TGC ATM 😔

[autumn elk]

The nice thing about these is they are likely permanent so there isnt a rush to get them

[tulip turtle]

I'm already cr-holic man sometimes we deserve some things for sticking around all those years as vets

[molten sun]

when there’s a cape + item it’s usually 20 dollars (Cat Pack, old mischief packs, Fortune fish pack, etc)

if it’s a cape + 2 items it’s 25 dollars (fortune set, journey pack, etc)

[autumn elk]

Yeah capes are usually 14.99 on their own so if there’s anything added its just more costly the only exception was the feast ancestor and the green earth cape which were cheaper

I personally burn my candles on event tickets these days

[naive viper]

its starting to feel a little insulting like.... you have so many players that are still buying things, surely two or three little items doesnt need to cost the price of an entire game 😭 I would actually end up spending more money on this game in the long run if the IAPs were cheaper, cuz it feels a lot easier to impulse buy $5 items over a couple weeks than it is to drop $15 at once

[sand rune]

Aside from bragging rights

[autumn elk]

Not only this, but it feels most of the effort goes into making IAP items vs season items. Seasonal items bar the ults feel like they are deliberately worse than singular iap items

[molten sun]

the only exception to this rule that I can think of was Kizuna Ai, which was 20 dollars for a cape and two items

[molten sun]

true!! the only thing that this new season is missing are good cosmetics… they’re all so basic and most players complained through all of beta testing

[autumn elk]

The moth/sparrow packs could have very easily made this season a 6 “spirit “ season

[naive viper]

Heck, I'd even prefer the option of spending like. AAA money once a year as like a yearly pass thing if it meant i got all the IAPs for free that year. I can put my former PSPlus sub money towards Sky instead 😂 maybe they could offer it at the end of the year as a "get all seasonal IAP items you may have missed at once" option

[molten sun]

also no new masks, face accessories and neck accessories this season… now the items are gonna take forever to save up seasonal candles and the reward is not that worth it

[naive viper]

yup, i didn't even bother buying the season pass this time ✌️

[autumn elk]

Revival is carried by the ult cape. Most people ik were skipping till they saw the cape had the psudeo rainbow trail

[tulip turtle]

Took the icing left the dry cake

[molten sun]

I only bought because of the ultimates

[autumn elk]

I feel bad for free players the most 77 days for 5 items and a sheet and those spirit shoes should have been base constellation idk why they are seasonal

I guess the non ribbon guide hair is there but i dint really consider permanent guide items part of the season.

[molten sun]

from the “spirit” cosmetics I only liked the hair ribbon 😭
The capes are just boring versions of cool capes, the shoes are just variations of the same thing, the outfit is not that cute and could’ve been implemented in the base game and the hairstyles are not good

[autumn elk]

The dress/sandals should have just been added to the dreams guide for finishing the quests tbh

[molten sun]

this is the first season that I’ll collect every seasonal candle and then buy everything at once, couldn’t care less for any of these items

[gilded basin]

whenever this comes up i think it's important to remember that this all comes down to opinion, tgc can't intentionally make an item worse because people have different tastes personally i really prefer the revival items to most of the mischief iaps this year for example

[tulip turtle]

While it's mostly cuz more time was put into the aviary upgrading remodeling after old one and improving not much was put on cosmetics otherwise this wasn't much of a season but a true revival to sky: light awaits , and how to make it primarily the new home , it shouldn't have been a season buuut sky works this way so this is like moving to a new house , more thoughts are put into how to gradually remove old home and so on this why I wish moth pack was free cuz like there could've been an actual season instead of revival one with much more lore than just moving homes so we deserve a free pack since we're having to wait till an actual next season for that

[molten sun]

“TGC can’t intentionally make an item worse” Cat mask enters the conversation

[autumn elk]

Well yes it does have opinions, however, as a trend i have noticed more people have been more iffy to purchase passes recently meaning they dont feel the pass is worth buying.

1/3 or revivals items dont feel they should be seasonal items namely the shoes because they are on regular spirits.

[gilded basin]

ok fair but whenever i see the argument "tgc is intentionally throttling seasonal items to push iap sales!!!!" all i can think is "maybe you just don't like this season's cosmetics and you feel like you need to blame someone for it"

[final hemlock]

how do you get back to the og homespace 💀

[molten sun]

It’s just frustrating because the complaints with Revival cosmetics were coming from many people during testing but nothing changed, I’m not upset because other than that the season is great… however imo most of the seasonal items this year have been very lackluster while the event items have been some of the best ever

[sudden pine]

there's a meditation circle by the big crystal across from the season cosmetics shop building

[final hemlock]

TY :D

[sand rune]

Though I do think tgc probably won't make this season's cosmetics travelling spirits and possibly make them stay in aviary since they literally are manneqins

[autumn elk]

A season is the quests and free cosmetics

I only judge a season pass purely on what we pay for i dont take the quests into account because those are free for anyone pass or not to do during or after the season concludes.

The only perks a pass holder has is faster access to cosmetics and the ultimate gifts and two seasons this year were carried by the ults and or fomo.

[floral jackal]

Sorry to interrupt, but is anyone else having trouble getting to the revival area? The gateway that is supposed to be at home isn’t appearing for me :/ I haven’t gotten to test much lately so is there another way to access it?

[sudden pine]

are you all updated? if you're playing on PC are you for sure on the beta version and not a not-updated PC demo version ?

[floral jackal]

I’m on mobile and it’s fully up to date as of yesterday I believe

[molten sun]

yeah cosmetic wise and not considering ults every season this year was disappointing, passage was the only ok one

[steep kite]

I am just hoping and praying that night time gets added to aviary. I am so so so praying for it

[molten sun]

I still have trauma from remembrance like how can you mess up right after such a big season like Aurora… Little Prince was followed by greatness

[autumn elk]

Have you completed all the realms? Im not sure if there is a requirement of completing eden or not

[floral jackal]

I have - I’ve been on beta for a while so I should have all of the normal requirements

[autumn elk]

Maybe you can join a friend that is in there? Id definitely bug report that though

[floral jackal]

Will do, thank you wasn’t sure if it was a season ending problem or something like that? But it seems it’s still going, no?

[sand rune]

27 days on beta left

[autumn elk]

I think that portal is supposed to be permanent regardless

[floral jackal]

Exactly :/ so weird. I’ll send in a report

[steep kite]

I gave this in #live-feedback channel. Hope they read and implement it

[autumn elk]

Probably a bit redundant to want since the novelty of aviary is the big space but

i kinda want them to add a small closet space near the portal area in addition to the shops because having to swap levels to change cosmetics will grow tiring.

Granted I probably will not make aviary my home but I think some would like to without losing the convenience of fast swapping cosmetics

[wet light]

Personally i vote on Remembrance having a decent reward, left us a free tea table and new kind of props. Cosmetics tho ehhh, it's up to personal taste.

[languid sandal]

Bereft Veteran's cape is one of my favourites!

[autumn elk]

I also assume not being able to access friends from the constellation in aviary is a bug that will be fixed? Or is the friend constellation accessible elsewhere?

[steep shell]

Hi everyone! is the 5th quest just lighting up the guide or am i bugged ?

[autumn elk]

If you had the dreams quests completed already yes. If not you need to do the whole dreams questline.

Its either the fastest quest ever or the slowest

[blazing blade]

I really hope the sparrow and moth sets aren't gonna be pc exclusive packs. Fear.

[steep shell]

oh that's...weird thank you!

[spark lance]

The 5th quest is completing the dreams quest line after lighting the guides statue, so if you completed the dreams quests already it will auto complete

[silk lichen]

praying they’re not going to be too expensive either…

[quiet obsidian]

folks how we feeling about the new sky intro? personally i LOVE IT WAY TOO MUCH it made me cry a little

[autumn elk]

It would be weird for them to make cosmetics that are so ingrained in the whole sky community exclusive to one platform so i think these are going to be “starter packs” for moths of any platform in addition to the platform exclusive packs

[steep shell]

That makes sense tho i don't understand why a seasonal quest would be to complete another season thank you!

[sudden pine]

it's to show new players that there's other areas with new spirits to find, after they finish eden

[long frost]

will moths of new era land in the current homespace or the aviary village?

[steep shell]

I think it takes away from this season. The guide is there anyways, and there could be an option to go to the dreams area and do the quests, but i don't like that that is the quest in this season. I thought the quest would be to restore the cape store, or something like that...

[autumn elk]

I think they will still land in the original home because you need to complete a certain amount of quests to unlock the option to make aviary home

[gilded parrot]

Hey everyone, I’m gonna put this boat on my head

[sand rune]

Up till now a few people have said new players will land in aviary

[broken mist]

Anyone else has trouble picking up today's quests or its just me?

[timber ridge]

Can this being ask at here? I wanna ask something about this year mischief?

[sand rune]

Technically not in live yet so I don't see why not

[autumn elk]

You can ask but some things were different in beta than in live so we may not have accurate info

[timber ridge]

Hello there wwwww

[sand rune]

NO WAY YOOOOOOOO HIHIHI

[timber ridge]

I'm just curious about what would be returning for this year mischief, since I've just returning to sky.

[sand rune]

What's definetly confirmed is last year's stuff, not sure about anything before that

[autumn elk]

Only the items from last year cat hair cat pack and the feline familiar prop will return during the event

the other things will return at a currently u disclosed time before the year ends

[sand rune]

Stuff new to last year, not stuff available last year*
Someone probably has a YouTube video on the new cosmetics from last year

[timber ridge]

You're too easy to be spot out.
And that's comes the question, what's in last year mischief ?
I've no idea at all.

[sinful widget]

hey beta chat, can anyone remind me if the journey pack was available in beta before live?

[spark lance]

Journey pack was not tested in beta

[sinful widget]

right, was it cus sony has the rights to journey or something?

[sand rune]

Maybe not, since prince was in beta
I take that back

[timber ridge]

Is the cat hair pack are something that can be trade with candles?

[autumn elk]

The cat hair is for candles
The cat pack is an iap bundle that has a cape and a mask

[timber ridge]

Ohhhhhhh. Thanks a lotttttttttt. Then I definitely need to go for candles run.

[autumn elk]

And i think its more because it didnt need testing because we got the Nintendo pack in beta but that had a whole area that we needed to access and test where the journey pack only has the voice changing mask

[sand rune]

And cape

[spark lance]

There was no beta for playstation

[autumn elk]

Well i mean a new feature-wise the mask was the only different thing from what we typically get

[sinful widget]

oh yeah, that makes sense

[timber ridge]

What's the cape?

[sinful widget]

I'm asking this because I'm wondering if the moth and sparrow packs are going to be the PC-exclusive packs

[sage haven]

I'm disappointed that only the closets open in aviary are hair and capes

[spark lance]

We don't know, but the PC exclusive pack will be something related to Steam

[restive root]

Ikr? Like why do we have to wait a bajillion years to unlock shops for stuff that we've had access to for years now?

[cosmic jungle]

True, I can't even see the difference 💀

[ashen tusk]

something something aviary tutorial season, it's not so relevant for older players

[restive root]

I get that... but why still make us WAIT SO LONG between each quest. A week may not seem like a long time, but when school is also a factor it's like... not a fun wait.

[ashen tusk]

Well a week between quests is better than 2-3 but post-season new players will be able to run through the quests pretty quick (except when they reach eden and have to run the whole of sky and then die) so it benefits those

[old nymph]

God please let it be a Gordon Freeman pack...

[deep spire]

Hello everyone how are you ? are y’all enjoying the new moth and Sparrow iap? They’re so cool

[spark lance]

I wish 😔 ||The winds flow in the other direction it feels ||

[sudden pine]

i miss octuple candles

[deep spire]

What are those ?

[ashen tusk]

happy noises

[sudden pine]

last few weeks we had every single seasonal candle in every realm to find 🙂

[spark lance]

I'm Team Sparrow really want to be a birb

[deep spire]

which one is your fav so far ?

[sudden pine]

I'm torn cuz i am usually team birb mask all the time, but...moth antennae

[deep spire]

Oh yeah I remember

[left quest]

Moth antennae are calling for you pere

[late sonnet]

why not both

[sudden pine]

i mean, i'm literally named after a birb but....floomp floomp floomp

[deep spire]

They look like Owl hair feathers

[ashen tusk]

I love the moth so much, antennae go wiggle boing wiggle boing, but the sparrow cape is precious too! we have a lot of sparrows here and they're adorable to see flapping around outside and now I get to be one in game? Best update ever!

[thorn temple]

it would be funny if sky invested in actual cosmetics to buy in the aviary shops at all times, like on a random rotation. like animal jam /hj

[deep spire]

Glad to know that you do enjoy the new cosmetics I really like the sparrow one because of the huge fluffy neck, reminds me of the flight fluffy neck but this one is fluffier

[deep spire]

Team both !

[magic hollow]

Did the crab cape have a price?

[autumn elk]

The crabula cape is 14.99

The other crab cape that was igc is seemingly absent from the live mischief announcement and when it was available in beta it was 1 ticket. It seems to have either been scrapped or it will get a later release

[magic hollow]

NO! I hope it’s not scrapped- I totally forgot to go on beta when it was mischief 🥹🥹 I am praying it’s not scrapped

[autumn elk]

Well it still appears in players closets in beta of they collected it only time will tell if it stays/gets removed or becomes a beta exclusive cape

[deep spire]

I hope so too ! Don’t worry about it maybe they just want to release it later !

[magic hollow]

Dang it, that was what I was most excited for in live

[autumn elk]

It’s possible it may come with the old cosmetics which are set to return at a later point this year, this is purely my speculation tho

[ashen tusk]

We need all the fluff in sky so I'm always happy to see it!

[serene trout]

was also thinking this, to give something additional for players who already have all of the delayed returning cosmetics and wont get anything during that return

[deep spire]

You’re just like me ! I love cozy n fluffy things I hope to see more fluffy cosmetics! I like my sky kid to feel cozy and warm

[autumn elk]

I wonder if it would be for candles then because its not really supposed to be an event so I doubt there will be tickets

[white sparrow]

BRUHHHH THIS BROUGHT LEGIT RIVERS TO MY FACE ITS SO NASTOLGIC #beta-screenshots-videos message

[outer pumice]

Guys what’s a sparrow? Is it like another word for moth?

[gilded parrot]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[sudden pine]

"sparrow" is what moths are called in Japan/other parts of Asia

[outer pumice]

Why did we coin the term sparrow?

Edit: thank you

[sudden pine]

(could someone say what the actual word is?)

[deep spire]

Moth

[old nymph]

Any chance for 0.23.5 this week or only 1 doot?

[broken bison]

Moffs were strong creatures but because of a terrible crash they lost everything, thats NOW a cool way to start the game for the 1st time!

[limber niche]

praying that the sparrow pack isnt pc exclusive

[broken bison]

If the pack was exclusive to that platform it would have a similar label to other console exclusive packs

Like with the Nintendo Pack "Only available on Nintendo Switch"

[limber niche]

good point.. could probably change in the future though, right ?

[chrome ivy]

Even IF IS PC exclusive, to be honest here, it can be easy accessable to most players. Because you just need a PC machine.

But I think this wasn't the case anyway, because it was not heavily theme.

[broken bison]

Everyone haves a PC, but the caviat is that not everyone is able to Run Sky on PC

[limber niche]

yeah!

[chrome ivy]

If optimized properly, they can just login just for the IAP

[rain tide]

I'm team moff here....sparrow mask is lacking -

[broken bison]

I dont expect Sky running on a 5th gen Intel Core i5 with integrated graphics 💀💀

[chrome ivy]

If they are unlucky, Azure or Google Cloud Platform, if they are really desperate. Both have free trial but Google Cloud Platform might be harder because crappy quota that won't let you attach a GPU

[limber niche]

im mainly hyped for the cape,, mask is super cute with the markings though!

[broken bison]

Sky: Cloud Version

[rain tide]

It looks exactly like the days of fortune mask

[limber niche]

fair point!

[broken bison]

A less Chubby fortune mask

[rain tide]

TwT I want a cute bird mask or atleast some more detail on it haha

[limber niche]

feathery mask..

[chrome ivy]

Just need to make into GeForce Now and Xbox Cloud.

[naive viper]

waugh i just realized if i set my default homespace as aviary, now i don't have a quick way to change cosmetics cuz only two shops are open

[rain tide]

Sparrows have white markings which arent on the Cape so that might have to be added too! (I'm still team moff even with the sparrow cape rn- THE ANTENNAE IS SO CUTE)

[broken bison]

At the entrance of the village, there is a meditation spot where it can take you to the OG Home, with a checkpoint white candle or whatever its called.

[chrome ivy]

Oversights, they shouldn't allow us to default OG or New Home that early.

[naive viper]

i know, it just stinks that theres no closets to hop over to without going thru a loading screen and getting split from friends. I'd either have to pop back to og home or go to one of the realms with closets at the beginning. either way I'm likely to get split from the group i'm with when i load back in

[rain tide]

I also think the moth cape needs to be bigger and less round at the ends since moths scientifically have end tips :> also fluffier!

[spark lance]

Hello, is it possible to get into beta as a PC player at the moment? Thanks

[white sparrow]

Completely outlandish opinion but I would love if I could position head accessories such as this lovely antennae addition

[rain tide]

So much effort on the 'nah' ohmygod-

[mental solar]

I wonder. Seeing the quests tree. It says that next quest will be available in 4 days the 6th one (as I already did 5th. Do you guys think they really added two quests this update? Normally quests aren't added if it says " the quest will be available in less than minute" and last update before this one had only one quest added.

[ashen tusk]

maybe they'll sneak out a 23.5 doot in a couple of days before the countdown ends

[hollow compass]

Yes, the quest is most likely in this build, but may need some tweaking

[bright cypress]

God I hope the moth pack and sparrow pack don't get a price of $24.99 USD each...

[old nymph]

If they did it would hv to be tomorrow or Friday

[sand rune]

Honestly what I'm more concerned about aviary replacing old home as default for new players is isle was supposed to be the tutorial

[late sonnet]

no there's a new tutorial and it's not in isle, it's aviary
it works really well imo, because it introduces other aspects of sky to new players that they otherwise wouldn't know about unless other players told them, so it reduces that load of work
sky has evolved a lot since 2019 after all

[old nymph]

Yeah aviary doesn't feel like a good beginning to the game, with all the shops etc. But the current Isle is too empty and doesn't feel... "welcoming" enough

[naive viper]

brand new players won't have any shops unlocked though, right?

[wanton yacht]

gonna have to agree with cy on this one. Aviarys last quest introduces season mechanics up front which i personally did not find obvious until i joined the discord way back

[old nymph]

The quests will be available instantly i think

[late sonnet]

there's a lot of things that are obvious to older players that new peeps would have zero idea about, and aviary quests do a great job of teaching new players how to navigate the game for some of the key features it has

i've always thought like, how they just throw dark plants onto you when you get to prairie out of nowhere like what's the point of clearing these?? and having the rhythm shop quest teach you to clear them to help others is a great way to go about it
teaches the player that they are interactable with flame

[old nymph]

It still doesn't feel quite right for me, i don't know how to explain it

[iron elbow]

moments moths are fossilizing as we speak

[soft rose]

I think it would be an interesting idea for the new Aviary intro to be the end of the game (after you complete orbit).

Isle has its whole identity and design on being the tutorial. If you have this completely new area replace it, then it’ll just cause confusion.

[wanton yacht]

i mean that completely fair if you feel that way. it probably needs some work to be the best working tutorial but it does help the things we are beyond at this point. Seasons used to be expanding lore or adding small areas. but they are a lot more centralized to players now.

imo knowing about season mechanics instead of slamming face first into a shard or ignoring an out of the way zone like windpaths or little prince is a bit better.

not including isle has always been one note to me, the trials are hidden and so is moments. but moving the tutorial spot enables them to put more emphasis on it. and it still will hold the place of being the tutorial on reliving for constellations.

finally going back fresh knowing how to relive spirits has always been awkward for isle because it kinda handholds you to only grab the one spirit instead of loooking around for all of them. with the tutorial part being slightly moved (theyll prbly leave some mechanics like the constellations and spirit gates) looking for the other 4(?) spirits is more likely

[soft rose]

The problem comes from the player’s view of the world. If the first places introduced is the barren homespace and more barren Isle, the discovering of new restored lands would be exciting.

But if they go from one restored land to another, they might not care as much.

[half kestrel]

If you finish eden for the first time and then the aviary gate rises up, that’d probably be the least confusing introduction for new players. And it would probably hint to a lot of players that there’s more than just “the main game”. As a moth, I didn’t really know much about seasons so this being the first obvious one would’ve been helpful

[soft rose]

The dark plants in prairie make sense gameplay wise. It’s a naturally growing threat.

In Isle, you have no darkness hazards.

In Prairie, you have dark plants to burn.

In Forest, you have dark plants and a passive hazard in rain.

In Wasteland, you have those two as well as an active hazard, in krills.

And in Eden, you have all of them combined plus fast-moving rocks

Also, having the player distinguish between Skykids, regular spirits, and seasonal guides would be baffling

I don’t necessarily mind new areas being pushed forward, but the first part of the game is the most important by far, and a starting in Isle is very different than a starting in Aviary

[soft rose]

My question is, why can’t isle be a tutorial realm AND be expanded upon? There have done this with Passage, and aviary teaches completely different things than Isle

[iron elbow]

in the isle there are darkness plants in the "no" spirit's cave, with no explanation, or ability to burn them (moths are usually too low on wl for that)
aviary does a good job of establishing them as a threat

[junior atlas]

I just experienced a weird glitch in the treehouse in forest, another player is glitched into my skykid and I can’t move. I did submit a bug report, but has anyone else experienced this?

[soft rose]

Tbf I’d rather have that removed, but it’s still unlikely ushering stargazer’s cave is even going to be accessed by moths

[ashen tusk]

I know we know it exists but we don't know in what capacity just yet but do you think the big dark plant will establish itself as a threat or a good time because popping noises and thousands of wax

[iron elbow]

THEY THREATENED THE FRUITY OWL MAN ‼️

[wanton yacht]

i have no problem not dropping isle as a tutorial like i said im just saying both are needed and id prefer to have season mechanics and and spirit mechanics split like having Aviary first will enable. Aviary will teach you about questlines and seasonal collections while Isle can teach the exploration for spirits and constellations (without the guiding you through the gate without looking around more hopefully)

[soft rose]

And Isle should be first, the sidequest part of Sky is great, but spirits are the entire backbone (and I don’t think the area has any WL)

Also worth nothing that Isle has a literal intro cutscene and introduces map shrines, Elders, spirit memories, and murals.

Not to diss on Aviary, but it’s probably best for players who want to explore the world after beating Eden. Putting it for moths would be a nightmare

[ashen tusk]

To be honest it feels weird to me too that isle won't be the first area moths will see and won't go the same route we did for learning about collecting spirits, wing light, elders, etc. but I guess tgc probably considered how to fit it all together. It'll be strange that they won't know about elders until quest 4 when they're prompted to go through sky, but they'll know about rhythm and enchantment

[iron elbow]

tbh I think the game has evolved too much for the isle opening to be the only introduction to the mechanics
they combined the hair tutorial from candlemaker and the introduction to darkness plants into one spot, teach the player on what the message boats are (there's literally no way of knowing otherwise before you cast them or whatever), and even do some exposition before sending the player onto the ye old path
I think it's very nice and actually teaches the new player a lot of what sky is about

[late sonnet]

a lot of what current day sky is about especially
like you have to understand that back when the tutorial was first made, seasonal areas did not exist

[soft rose]

Changing hair… which new players won’t have any

[ashen tusk]

The current isle tutorial is definitely outdated for sure, I just can't get over how the focus will shift to dress up and boat notes before moths meet grandpa isle, won't somebody think of grandpa isle

[dry ibex]

YEAH - Karik and me had the same

[wanton yacht]

(im assuming you mean Aviary with the winglight cuz isle has 4 not including trials) and i do agree spirits run the show in either side of this. id like to think introducing us to the activity of spirits first will encourage wanting to find those places that they are from.

more anecdotal evidence is the fact that my cousin (who really likes the game but sucks at games /lh) needed guiding for pretty much any encouragement to explore so id often have to mention how seasons and seasonal spirits worked and where to find them

[ashen tusk]

By the looks of it new players will have 3 hairstyles to choose from (or 4? is candlemaker hair still available for new moths?)

[soft rose]

Candlemaker hair is only available after you beat Isle, no idea about the others

[iron elbow]

they were included in the latest doot, they are moth alternatives

[late sonnet]

the real question is
will patch chan finally change hairstyles now that there are more moth ones

[ashen tusk]

yeah I think they should be available now from rhythm, I went to go double check though - I think candlemaker at prairie is redundant now possibly

[iron elbow]

not to mention: in the current live game, a moth has no incentive to learn about or use map shrines, they're kinda just.. there.
one being included in the aviary questline is actually super helpful

[ashen tusk]

patch chan having siblings or patch chan just going for a haircut every now and again?

I now headcanon patch chan siblings actually

[soft rose]

There’s more than enough encouragement imo. Spirit gates that are locked the first time, map shrines, some seasonal areas being accessible the first time, the ending of the game prompting you to do more…

Isle has been changed quite a bit over the years, by the way. The intro cutscene, dialogue, and even where you started has been drastically changed.

[late sonnet]

I'd imagine also that even though they put a map shrine near the WL in isle, players just ignored it because didn't know it was interactable or how to mess with the thing, so it's great that it's implemented in the tutorial questline

[soft rose]

I’m a bit worried with changing it to aviary (partially because I made a whole video talking about why Isle is a great tutorial) but also because Sky has mostly relied (and succeeded, I would say) on environmental tutorials that gradually show the player

[gilded parrot]

So many old memories... wait, what do you mean i wasn't around during Light Awaits?! I'm a light...awaits...seeker... moth!

[wanton yacht]

id like to agree but i watched said cousin wander around in circles and not look at anything too closely. windpaths didnt exist to them nor did trials and heaven help them go out of the way to rerun through realms they thought already complete the first time. like fair enough the some people will look BUT some people dont which is my point.

and eah ive looked at the old stuff a lot for colour pallette comparisons

[soft rose]

Is this bot dated or something?

[ashen tusk]

help 😭

[sand dawn]

lightseeker moth bot

[sudden pine]

I think aviary is shifting the story to be more about interacting with the ancestors as the theme of the game leading into exploration of isle

[ashen tusk]

I thought skybot's pfp is literally a light awaits screenshot

[late sonnet]

light awaits searing your eyeballs with bloom

[soft rose]

I’d say there’s clear ways to show why it’s interactable.

The player lights up white candles and gains story details. Hopefully, they realize that white candles (or candles in general) are important.

The map shrines have white candles on them, so most players will probably light them, revealing a map in Sky.

Meanwhile, Aviary will have them use mechanics that a new player won’t need for a long while

[naive viper]

when will giant aviary darkness plant return from war

[gilded parrot]

Bet : can I revive genchat's love of peas this season?

[iron elbow]

my conclusion is that aviary emphasises the kid part of the skykid first and foremost, and lets your explore you surroundings a bit before hitting you with the chosen one talk

[late sonnet]

I also wanna point out, the aviary quests are the shortest ones I've ever seen in forever (the first couple)
which is perfectly paced for a new player to breeze through

[soft rose]

And my conclusion is that Isle teaches the Skykid things that will be immediately useful, instead of stuff that will only come later on.

[spark lance]

Isle taught me nothing my first time playing tbh lol

[soft rose]

I’d rather have them teach not enough than teach too much, imo.

I wouldn’t mind it all if they started the game in Aviary, but have the player immediately go to Isle.

Because with the aviary introduction, there will be four characters to remember:

-The Hopeful Steward, who is the questgiver

-The NPC Guides, who don’t give quests but are the same species

-The regular spirits, who leave you behind for reasons the player won’t know

-Skykids, who are controlled by players

[swift mortar]

So I accidentally made the Aviary my home.. there are no full closets here. Do I have to go into another realms social areas to change now?? Also I like the snow that was just added to the normal home. Is there a way to go back or am I stuck now?

[faint ferry]

a friend of mine once got bored quickly when he first tried out sky, even when someone was with him, so i'm hoping the next time he gives sky another try, the new introduction gets him hooked (although i doubt he would revisit sky again)

[faint ferry]

in the entrance of aviary on the left theres a place you can meditate at to bring you back to the original home

[swift mortar]

Thank you so much!

[jaunty thorn]

since this is beta chat i have to say its very nice that their adding a moth pack since new players are usually called moths

[old nymph]

It should be first and instead of the prairie entrance is the aviary, in it's rightful place

[steep kite]

Wait we are going to have windpaths in aviary? Will they be shortcuts to the seasonal areas??! Aaaaaaa

[soft rose]

I love the flight sequence, but I think it shouldn’t play in the beginning. New players will be extremely confused by flying controls and clouds, and lorewise they won’t know what’s going on. Instead of a dramatic recreation of the fall of the Ancestors, it looks like a plane crash 💀

[old nymph]

I think isle should be changed. I don't know how much but what we have now is just so painfully empty, i don't even wanna look at it

[molten sun]

yeah but in the ending it'll all make sense since players will understand the cycle aspect of the game, in the old beginning you were just kind of thrown there

[soft rose]

I’d rather have it go from empty to full then full to empty

[molten sun]

I prefer Aviary as the beginning 100% I'm really glad they're going with it

[soft rose]

Then why not put it at the end? New players would have absolutely no idea how to fly, with Isle and Prairie being there to help test the flight

[devout grail]

someone can tell me how I can change the home in sky

[analog karma]

wait dont you start at isle from 23.4 when you activate quest 4 in aviary?

[old nymph]

Big white candol

[molten sun]

you're talking like the old beginning of the game actually tells anything lore wise lol

with Aviary they're teaching mechanics that are very easily overlooked by new players, like seasons for example

[old nymph]

You do but it's the same

[devout grail]

I want to go to an ordinary house , but there are no buttons here 😭

[molten sun]

nope, there's a new cutscene at the beginning and the game starts in Aviary, you complete quests 1 - 3 and then unlock the realms on quest 4

Edit: oh sorry just read the rest of your message ignore mine lol

[orchid wedge]

Hiiiii

[soft rose]

Seasons seem much better to be taught after completing Eden, once the player completes the ropes

[old nymph]

Why do i feel like showing seasons at the beginning of the game could actually make people less interested because like every single F2P game has a season and they can think it's another generic mobile game

[analog karma]

oh
then whats the problem i see it as an expansion of the og intro-

[molten sun]

but they kind of are ? in Aviary there's no indication that you're playing the Season Of Revival, so they'll get to quest 4, finish Eden, and then see the season of dreams and all that

[iron elbow]

there a lot of games that make you very op in the start as a tutorial, only to make you go to 0 when it's done
it's an effective way to show player 1) the clear goal and 2) what the game will feel like later

[molten sun]

I swear people just want to be mad 😭

[old nymph]

Then how are they teaching about seasons if you don't know that you're playing one

[molten sun]

because after beating Eden the game goes "look! there are more storylines to do! talk to the Dreams guide"... this didn't happen before, players would only find out about past seasons stumbling upon them or seeing the wiki/youtube/whatever

[old nymph]

I don't really get why we're even discussing this, we know nothing will be changed anyway lol

[analog karma]

ok, im doing the new opening, it honestly looks amazing and makes sense lorewise, you were just reborn and the fall into the aviary village.

@old nymph quest 5, it gets you to do the dreams quests

[molten sun]

thankfully

[iron elbow]

this whole portion of the server is there to give feedback

[molten sun]

I don't really get why Aviary before isle would be bad in any way ? lmao

like that's just a lil cute intro before you get thrown inside realms

[junior atlas]

How do you change home spaces? I heard someone say the big white candle but I can’t interact with it

[molten sun]

you can only interact with the one that isn't your current home

[junior atlas]

Gotcha, where’s the one in Aviary?

[molten sun]

right in front of the realm gates

[analog karma]

yes, you only would be introduced to them after you beat the game, cuz i dont think a moth is gonna be going home after every realm, and if youre an off season moth you just dont know till the next season.
and if seasons end and sky servers for some reason are kept alive, youll never know.
thats why starting in aviary is better imo

[dry ibex]

Cy just mentioned it in another server, but check your inboxes in-game! We have an inbox test message

#beta-screenshots-videos message edit, they posted here too

[analog karma]

alr did!

[paper pumice]

I kinda wish I had the new cut scene when I first joined sky a couple years ago it would’ve been so memorable.

And I’m glad this area is more guiding to moths cuz when I first played I had no idea what I was doing or what a season was and I left sky like 3 times before I actually started playing haha
someone had to teach me but since I was such an introvert it took me like a few months to finally feel comfortable talking to someone otherwise I’d just poof lol

Like someone would light me offer candle I’d accept and then leave the game lol

I really want the new beginning scene to be at the end tho when we leave Eden cuz I think it would be awesome to experience it again!! It would probably make me want to do Eden more lol

Now I gotta go read what everyone is saying again lol

[gilded parrot]

@paper pumice, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta.

[ashen tusk]

Inbox test! Worked for me

[dry ibex]

Worked just fine by the way! If someone from staff peeks in

[old nymph]

I don't know, maybe because there's no clearer story? Even if the game will be like it is now, you have the first cutscene where you don't understand anything, you fall into the aviary, more unexplained story and the small map shrine thing, go through the realms and have no idea who the elders are, go to eden, die, random white kid, everything collapses, orbit, back to aviary/home

[analog karma]

ngl it being after eden would be good as well, although its kinda weird if you have to go to eden again just after you beat it

[molten sun]

I still don't get it... you'll still see the same story but now there's a little village intro first ?

All of the realms and cutscenes literally haven't changed

[old nymph]

I just feel like it complicates it even more

[plucky rune]

That’s a pretty big part of how TGC is telling its story. It’s largely up to interpretation, so it tells us so little, you’re meant to ask people about the lore as a push to be social. Plus, aviary is providing a slightly stronger tutorial sense before players actually get into the game, which would do them some good. The season formatting seems to be a bit confusing I’d guess.

[maiden pond]

Beta inbox test successful. Received 2 candles and 3 seasonal candles. (I hope I worded that right.)

[junior atlas]

Successful beta inbox test here too

[old nymph]

I don't know, it just doesn't feel Sky enough for me

[plucky rune]

Aviary used to be the home space in beta, this is as Sky as it gets. The way things are going I’d say TGC is trying to reconnect with the games roots, trying to make it literally more Sky like. It’s different to the game we’ve known, but it’s more sky than the game we know.

[analog karma]

i mean, its most likely gonna be official content, so its sky eitherway lol

[autumn spindle]

Beta inbox test 1 and 2 success for me too

[old nymph]

After 3 years I'm really starting to feel like Sky is just not a game for me, at least the way it is now. (Also inbox test works fine)

[analog karma]

it also fleshes out the "rebirth cycle" of a sky kid more, and is a lot more cinematic too

[dry ibex]

YIPPIE BETA INBOX TEST!!!!!! I’m hoping we get to see the funky message again for the next one hahahahahahah

[dry ibex]

For everyone, im referencing these: #beta-screenshots-videos message

[iron elbow]

come on tgc, don't be shy, send us all the ults ever

[dry ibex]

Im taking away your two candles

[iron elbow]

NOOOOOOO

(she didnt know I had three more in my back pocket)

[sudden pine]

candle theft!

[dry ibex]

You’re next!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[molten sun]

hoping that they'll use this new inbox gift to give us the one candle we couldn't get before Revival (yes I need it)

[sudden pine]

oh noes!

[analog karma]

can confirm, new players are sent to isle for quest 4.

[half lagoon]

One question, why can't I leave the aviary area?

[analog karma]

YOURE ONE WITH AVAIRY VILLAGE NOW
THERES NO ESCAPE!!! /j (idk lol)

[half lagoon]

Whatttttt

[maiden pond]

If you mean you have it set as your home, go back to where you first entered Aviary Village and there should be a little return shrine to go back to the original Home on the left.

[ashen tusk]

Noooo don't give me another season gift pass I already have 11

Second test worked! Sobbing noises behind all these gift passes

[maiden pond]

Can confirm my second inbox test worked.

[half lagoon]

I don't understand very well, can you explain it to me please?

[frosty trout]

Hey quick question that is (surprisingly) not about the inbox message I just pinged a ton of people about—

For those of you who has comments put on your shared memories and such, did you see an option to delete comments?

[ashen tusk]

Lemme go check

[sudden pine]

oh that reminds me, if we had left a message can we delete it

[spark lance]

When they do open beta for android or PC they will ping the role right? Thank you

[ashen tusk]

Yes we can hide comments and report them

[frosty trout]

Okay, thanks!

[maiden pond]

Okay so go back to the place you spawn in at in Aviary Village and turn left. You should see a meditation circle to go back to regular Home.

[frosty trout]

Were the hide/report options easy to pick out?

[left ridge]

If theyr starifng to gift currencies please gift me the all of the Aurora ultimates on my live account please (PLEASE ILL GIVE.UP EVERY SINCLE ULTIMATE I HAVE PLRASE PLEASE PLEASW)

[restive root]

OH MY GOD THANKS TO THE INBOX TEST I MANAGED TO GET THE ULT CAPE, THANK YOU TGC GODS

[ashen tusk]

easy to see, had to hit it a couple of times cause I kept accidentally closing the message options

[timber bridge]

Inbox test worked on my end.

[iron elbow]

calm it down, forest elder, beta and live aren't the same 😭

[frosty trout]

Thanks Bubba!

[half lagoon]

I only see the new candle

[left ridge]

Lol I know I missed that season on accident and I'm very salty but ive lived and will contue too live (this is the 4thd time I've gone through the 5 stages of greif)

[spark lance]

It’s near the entrance of the aviary village itself, not the “new home” part

[gilded parrot]

Bet : can I revive genchat's love of peas this season?

[ashen tusk]

They haven't gifted us any ults in beta, but if they did it would be only to test the inbox feature or for extended testing purposes, plus beta inventories aren't permanent and can be wiped whenever so no need to worry about any advantages here

well I lied we got bonfire but not just now

[iron elbow]

who's genchat, never heard of her

[iron nacelle]

they did gift manta cape a while ago

[ashen tusk]

#general-sky-discussion off you go skybot, this is beta chat

[half lagoon]

thank you, I'm finally free 😂😂

[left ridge]

They gifted the bonfire as a thanks before, but other than that idk

[iron nacelle]

manta cape and bonfire have been the two ultimates gifted on beta so far for testing purposes but no other ults

[ashen tusk]

me lying on the internet again, but yes other than that we don't get gifted ults over here often and for no reason

[late sonnet]

I honestly thought they'd never gift an ult again but bonfire beloved

[half lagoon]

thank you 🤗

[warped geode]

Imagine if they are willing to gift the owl hair

[amber harness]

well the inbox gift works

[unreal python]

The Bonfire bribery for the Aurora concert testing too

[spark lance]

So how do ults work in beta? I know it’s mostly like live but do you get seasonal candles from doing dailies? Because there aren’t enough days to get all of the necessary candles are there?

[iron elbow]

ok gamers I know the perfect lifehack how to give yourself every ult ever, listen closely ‼️

||1. make a resume
2. apply to tgc
3. get hired
4. give yourself every ult
5. perfect ||

[late sonnet]

what if we get a cheeky third inbox stress message that just says uwu

[warped geode]

Oh hi sherbet

[ashen tusk]

the true way to summon all the beta testers

[amber harness]

hello

[ashen tusk]

if we get an owo I'm googling how to block tgc inbox messages ||/j||

[warped geode]

JAWS IS TELLING Facts

[unreal python]

I want the Bee movie script to come back

[glacial barn]

When you take a break from beta to focus on real life and come back to chaos ^^;

[warped geode]

Y E S

[fringe rover]

does anyone know how to complete the fourth quest? i keep clicking on the 4th quest and it doesn’t show a cutscene or give directions. i started that quest a while back but forgot what the objective was :(

[late sonnet]

do eden

[iron elbow]

do a full eden run

[fringe rover]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-anime-gif-12899417030740594609

[half lagoon]

Do eden

[iron elbow]

btw, just so everyone's up to speed

when you do eden in the current build, you get reborn in the aviary, regardless if you set it as your home or not

[fringe rover]

eden is worst enemy :’) thanks yall

[woeful flint]

the animation for the message currency is just top notch

[odd lintel]

I love that I woke up right when Sagomay sent out the ping for the inbox test

[glacial barn]

Ooh, I'm prolly overdue for an Eden run....

[oak juniper]

The inbox system is neat but ik for a fact people are gonna use it to demand compensation for the buggy season launch

[soft rose]

There is, once you finish the first quest you get the whole season interface

[molten sun]

and are they wrong?

[ashen tusk]

To be fair it would be nice to see compensation when bugs happen that prevent us from interacting with the game as intended and miss out on currency for it, which is possibly why they’re testing it anyways, but we’ll see

[gilded parrot]

@ashen tusk, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta.

[dry ibex]

Im a little late to this, but yes! It seems that reporting a comment also makes it disappear on your end (don’t know if that’s intentional) and you can hide comments on other peoples candles as well

Although the reporting button is quite small on mobile, so sometimes it looks like it’s not working when in reality it’s just your screen not registering the right spot on which you click!

[late sonnet]

that's what the thought was the first time the inbox stress tests happened but it never ended up being used that way I feel?

[ashen tusk]

Skybot you never ping me to tell me we’re best friends anymore, just to yell at me about rules I already know

[spark lance]

It just wanted to join the conversation 😔

[late sonnet]

skybot what's a moth

[oak juniper]

Yeah, I assume there'll be something to do with seasonal candles, seeing how some quests are bugged. Which is neat, I also like the idea of being able to force my friends to accept iap gifts while their offline

[gilded parrot]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[ashen tusk]

did they test currency specific things then or just items? I know they tested the inbox with the flower and sanc cape before I thought it was just like general testing, but this one is specifically currency so it does make me wonder it is all speculation though

[ashen tusk]

levelling up chasing your friends around to accept an iap to throwing it in their inbox repeatedly until they accept it

[soft rose]

Actually, I’m coming to like this new change a little bit (even if I like the old version better). This aviary intro makes the world of Sky feel a lot bigger and more MMORPG-like. Home is great and all, but I feel like aviary can do what it does and more.

Now, comments on the other hand…

It’s only because of nostalgia (a useless argument) and aviary.

But now aviary is here, so there’s no point.

I don’t think most areas were changed iirc, but Sky did get a bit more optimized over its lifetime.

And the graphics have gotten much better, but that’s only a given. What I like far more is it being easy to replay, while LA was more a one time thing

[oak juniper]

I wish I can comment things so i can jumpscare my friend on sky anniversary like

Woe, Oreo be upon ye

[soft rose]

Comments are cool in theory, but they will open a Pandora’s Box in terms of Sky content moderation

Sky is at its best when it’s decentralized

[iron elbow]

I dislike the idea of comments cause it's the perfect platform for cyberbullying, especially when you can comment on some stranger's post and potentially face no consequences

[soft rose]

One idea I had was for “emote reactions”. So the four emotes you can do on megaservers can be used to react to an item. It allows for a varying amount of reactions, connects with existing elements of a game, and requires absolutely zero moderation. I think it is a far better system than comments.

[odd lintel]

WHY ARE YOU MARRIED TO THE MANNEQUIN

[oak juniper]

BRO PROPOSED TO ME AND I DIDN'T WANNA SAY NO

ITS WORSE BECAUSE THE GUIDE DID THE SAME THING TODAY

[clever dust]

First comment I saw in a shared space was a stranger calling it ugly 👍 Already off to a fiery start with the comment function 😭 👌

[odd lintel]

IT WAS OFFERING YOU A COSMETIC TABLE, NOT PROPOSING

[steel fox]

A better use for the system, is for translation of chat in foreign languages. Like a subscript of sorts and you can translate it one by one. I don't see comments ending well in any scenario,sky is a great game with one of the best fandoms I know but toxic players exist everywhere and we may see many players quit after cyberbullying

[unborn root]

The opening of Sky when entering the game also needs to be changed for the Aviary
or like in the past: A portal that you enter by pressing Play

[oak juniper]

IT GAVE ME A CANDLE NOT A COSMETIC

[soft rose]

It probably will, with the “are you new to Sky” button

Very few games automatically kickstart the intro

[odd lintel]

SO YOU TOOK THAT AS PROPOSAL?

[oak juniper]

YES

BRO WANTED TO MARRY ME

We're honeymooning in gw

[frosty trout]

Has anyone had issues receiving the currency in the two inbox messages sent earlier?

[opal sky]

Working now after restart!

[earnest pawn]

My one feedback about the sparrow wings, they bend too much at the tips of the feathers when soaring (I watched too many slow motion bird flying videos which is where my feedback comes from). Bird feathers bend when flapping and taking flight and landing but when soaring they don't bend so much as they do with the sparrow wings. It almost looks 90 degrees almost.

[sand dawn]

my feedback about the new capes is that I wish the fluff part would be separated into “pendant-slot” cosmetics. they really clip with a bunch of stuff :<

[autumn spindle]

@sand dawn you two need to send your feedback to #beta-feedback if you haven't already

[earnest pawn]

Yes! I did already haha I just share it here so others can contribute to the conversation

[soft rose]

Comments are cool in theory, but they will open a Pandora’s Box in terms of Sky content moderation. I think having as reactions would be cool, because it wouldn’t require any moderation and would connect to the game

[autumn spindle]

OOPS my bad

[delicate mason]

That's actually a nice idea

I'd personally like to see them add another reaction for laughter too

[willow warren]

How's the season area looking so far

[full jewel]

I was actually excited about the comments feature though 😭

[frosty trout]

Awesome, thanks everyone!

[full jewel]

I also wonder if the aviary will have season rotation stuff like the snow and ice rink at the default home... this would probably be asking too much...

[frosty trout]

(Please continue to send comments/feedback about new beta features to the feedback channel! 🙏 )

[soft rose]

Some feedback advice: I think it’s a bad idea for something to be called “not Sky”. Everyone has different visions on what the game is, even among devs, so there’s no point in making arguments relating to that.

Instead of trying to determine what does and doesn’t feel like Sky, make practical reasons for and against new features

[frosty trout]

And if you find examples of offensive comments being sent, please send screenshots in the #beta-feedback channel as well

[soft rose]

A practical reason against the new comment system is that moderation will be extremely taxing, and would require immense amounts of manpower for something that could cause harm.

I think an emote reaction would be much better.

[dry ibex]

@sharp frost I don’t think it’s a hacker, they were attached to both my friend, others in the server, and my skykid so I think it’s a bug but idk how to figure it out

[full jewel]

Maybe something like a downvote or report system for bad comments? I haven't seen actual comments yet though so I can't say much

[soft rose]

My question is, what will text comments add to the game that emote comments won’t?

Sky has worked so well without any form of global chat, so even partially introducing it could cause immense chaos

[oak juniper]

Real quick can i use this to send IAPs to my friend I want to oreo jumpscare my favorite goobers

[sand dawn]

Like, imagine someone posting a question or announcing a birthday, would be nice to give an answer or congratulate them I guess

[soft rose]

A question could be done in local chat, while a could do the same as a congratulation.

And I fear the downsides as well, such as intentionally misleading new players or clashes over culture

[dry ibex]

I think it will be tough making sure comments don’t bypass the filter.

Only a handful of languages are supported in Sky, and so many words / sentences pass through the filter. I’ve been testing the extremes, but also I don’t think a comment section on memories YOU create should be implemented in Sky if there’s a possibility to receive negative, unsolicited feedback from players you don’t even know and where you don’t have a say in

[sand dawn]

Live global chat during Aurora went perfect without any issues

[agile hazel]

Do comments bypass filters? Cause otherwise it would be on the same level as message spells. Any negative/toxic comment can easily just be made as a shared memory or something tbh. Doesn't seem like it's going to be any worse

[soft rose]

I wasn’t there for it

[sand dawn]

Let’s say there were a few.. cultural disagreements

[dry ibex]

It ranges from extreme, to mild stuff. I don’t think people should be able to comment “boooooo, get out of here booooo” (for example).

The bad outweighs the good imo. In beta its fun, because it’s easier to find friends’ candles and it’s fun leaving messages but Live is so different

It might also just be among kids even “oh you stole my idea you suck” “I played it better”. That sort of rivalry / attention seeking is just something that will happen is the filter doesn’t stop it. The anonymity is bigger in a sense, because there are no meaningful connections you make. There is no exchange, it’s parasocial at best

I think “ if I like it” and “(no heart) if I don’t” is enough

[sand dawn]

Here you’re highlighting the whole issue I personally have with the message features: I don’t give a hönk about all those stranger messages, I just wanna interact with stuff friends made/wrote/recorded..

[autumn spindle]

Maybe comments should be only for friends, strangers react with emotes

[left ridge]

Atent we suppose to leave vulgar things to test the filter? I'm not sure though

[dry ibex]

However, I do think that this is only the very first stage of this and all feedback is important for this. We can detect what the filter doesn’t and pass it along, so the devs can make it better and more safe

[knotty lagoon]

I think it makes sense that the owner of a shared memory should be able to delete/block comments made about them

[soft rose]

Imagine the “L+ratio+ Dreams was better” on every shared memory

[dry ibex]

I’d thread with caution here. You can maybe do it with a friend you trust, that consents to the comments

[soft rose]

As Aurora’s strongest soldier, I think this would the perfect place to put and

[left ridge]

Either way I will not, even if its intended for testing, it still feels wrong😭😭

[dry ibex]

It does yes, you can test mild stuff, happy stuff, reporting, hiding, placing, translation function.

It doesn’t have to be extreme. It can be “WOW those pants are NOT GOOD with THAT HAIRSTYLE”

It can also be things you do want, for example I wouldn’t mind it if it was only with friends, maybe..

[dry ibex]

I actually agree with this, non-verbal reactions if any at all

[wanton yacht]

tacking onto the parasocial thing. ability to comment isnt always the best thing considering those with platforms playing and the whole prairie issue of people somehow turning it into a dating game emotes for non friend tree would definitely be better

[soft rose]

Keep in mind I don’t hate Sky’s shared messages, they are incredible for making the world feel alive and working with Sky’s themes of restoration.

But comments could put it into jeopardy

[knotty lagoon]

the first thing i thought about upon seeing comments being implemented is the passive-aggressive (if not directly aggressive) amounts of comments that will be left on kids' shared memories. I find that maybe reacting with emojis, such as is what could help break the barrier of mildly dangerous interactions by making it completely nonverbal

[dry ibex]

Agreed 100%

[soft rose]

I’m questioning the need for written comments for friends as well, considering chat isn’t hard at all

Perhaps all will be great once the friend constellation update comes in 2029

[stoic rose]

Umm
Uhhh
Can someone help me out with what version we're out cuz I've got a bug to reportt

[knotty lagoon]

still waiting for the time they implement a light-all feature where you don't have to go through every one of your friends so send them gifts of light. But we all know that that's way out of reach, TGC can't be missing out on those sweet 41 extra seconds of playtime we spend lighting everyone in our constellation

[agile hazel]

It should say in the bottom left when you open the game

[dry ibex]

0.23.4 and build 233714 (did you know it’s on the loading screen too )

[jagged sage]

Does anyone know how much the moth and sparrow capes/packs are? (Even if they're unofficial)

[agile hazel]

That sounded like a loading screen hint

[autumn spindle]

Actually, I'm thinking about this -

Should be comments from friends only if they have chat unlocked with you? And maybe there should also be the ability to disabled comments, that could also gives some protection

[iron elbow]

we don't get prices in beta, you'll have to wait for the live announcement

[tulip turtle]

Who wants at least moth cape to be non iAP??

[spark lance]

I like being able to comment fish on my friends posts but I don't like the possible negative comments that can be made tbh

[maiden pond]

With the level of detail that was put into those capes, no. I highly doubt that they'd give even one for free. However it's beta, so anything can change. I just think a lot of work was put into it.

[ashen tusk]

Comments from people I'm friends with are fun, maybe having specific friend node unlocked for friends being able to comment on our posts would be good cause then it's more consensual than just everyone anywhere is allowed to comment

[full jewel]

Friends with the chat node unlocked having the ability to comment, maybe

[wanton yacht]

time to add another 10 candle price node on the friend tree

honestly though node locked seems brilliant

[ashen tusk]

Also kinda goes back to the viewing share spells thing, they're trying to create an in-game platform for creators and they obviously want to encourage community and communication, but I'd rather only hear from people I'm friends with as opposed to strangers who could say anything

[late sonnet]

I wanna mention also, toba tested this yesterday but you can put friend codes in the messages and they will show up
that is kind of sketchy
sky has really young players and that kinda invites them to mess around with that

[wanton yacht]

mmph that circles around to the parasocial issue of those with platforms getting hounded for anything they could place. you could say thats to be expected cuz youtube comments are a minefield but its even more anon through sky than usual

[ashen tusk]

It always confuses me the more I think about how visible our share spells can be when we start out in sky not being able to talk with people unless we actively invest in unlocking that feature (or befriend people outside the game and link up that way), but to be like everything is visible to everyone after 3 likes and then add onto that that people can essentially follow you for more content and then add to that the ability to comment on any share spells you come across. It's kinda taken limited and meaningful communication through friendship and stretched it to fit into the whole ever-expanding social media metaverse

[soft rose]

My question is, with such a limited requirement, why allow comments at all? Talking using chat is much easier than commenting

But it’s still good

[soft rose]

It’s unprecedented in my eyes; Sky never does global chat, so even a watered down form of it sounds ridiculous

[noble hill]

Hello, I was out of town the last few days and am a bit out of the loop re beta updates. Is it a known issue that daily quests aren't showing up right now, or should I submit a bug report for it?

(Also, it's snowy now?!)

[ashen tusk]

I also think it's relevant to refer to the interview Jenova gave during gamescom, he highlighted the way in which players are social surveillance for one another:
With Sky we create social consequences to make people behave better. If you leave content and it’s anonymous, you can say any offensive thing you want. But in Sky, when you create content, your friends can tell that it’s your content. Your friends create a kind of social surveillance. You don’t want to say something really nasty and let your best friends know that you’re that kind of person. So, people don’t do it. Just like in real life. Everybody’s watching you. The social consequences stay with you.

But if they allow anonymous comments on things like share spells then they're no longer relying on players keeping their friends in check. It's an interesting and strange approach in my opinion, and I do wonder what's changed between then and now.
https://venturebeat.com/games/how-sky-the-children-of-the-light-broke-records-for-most-simultaneous-people-on-the-screen-jenova-chen-interview/

[soft rose]

“Then and now” is just one month lol. I hope this is just a fluke, as it directly goes against what Jenova Chen says in the worst way possible

[ashen tusk]

It's also interesting because in past interviews he's given, he's highlighted the fact that friendship and communication in Sky is earned and all about trust, it's about unlocking and investing in communication - again with the whole comments on share spells open to everyone that contradicts the past intentions and I wonder if there's any particular reason they're leaving those intentions behind.

[soft rose]

It’s not even money- TGC stands to lose on this. So I think it this is an “left in beta” moment

[ashen tusk]

Yeah one month is a short time to do a big turn around, but I'm assuming the share spell comments has been in the works longer than that, it doesn't seem like something they will have decided overnight

[white sparrow]

Better feedback all this

[soft rose]

Feedback is important, otherwise we’ll be blamed for introducing a horrible feature into live

[sand dawn]

I think commenting on ugc is cool.. but only if we unlocked chat !

[soft rose]

Offer clear, constructive criticism on how to change it, please

[white sparrow]

Hmmm if they do keep the function then it needs to be friends only that can comment but I’d really rather it never be implemented

[median temple]

Thing is you technically make a global chat with 2 tables, cause rooms support only 8 players at a time

[ashen tusk]

I genuinely do think they could proceed with allowing comments, but if they approach it with levels so players remain in control with communication they receive, like some folks have already suggested keeping it to friends we've unlocked chat with etc.

I know some folks may enjoy global comments, global chat was welcomed by a lot during live because it was new and silly all yelling at once, but if it became an extended and permanent feature I just feel like it could be detrimental without limitations that players can implement

[median temple]

Actually the whole “pay a candle to talk at a bench”, what if it was something else?

[sand dawn]

Your ugc could be visible in many rooms over a period of multiple days, it’s quite different from 2 tables lol

[ashen tusk]

Pay a candle to comment on a shared spell, problem solved ain't nobody parting with their candles for that

[soft rose]

8 players is still much tinier than the thousands, if not millions of people who will see thousands of items

[median temple]

Unless you can heart comments

[soft rose]

I think seeing comments of friends is a good idea, as it ties into the “social surveillance”

[ashen tusk]

50 likes on a comment and you get a heart

[ashen tusk]

It's also neat you can communicate when they're not online because that's something I've missed from other games, being able to leave messages for offline friends

[median temple]

I still wish there was a setting to reduce the frequency of how many message and build spells I see everywhere.

[ashen tusk]

they did reduce those more recently, i think the less you interact the less you see dotted around too but i may have misunderstood

[median temple]

Yea but I kinda wish I had control over that. Cause some days I wanna take photos and I have clear out messages, only for new ones to appear right where I just cleared them out.

[ashen tusk]

True, when you go to snap a cool pic and you see a shared space lamp in the corner, it's not the end of the world since they're less intrusive than they used to be. Taking photos with the moments cameras hides them if that helps at all!

[median temple]

Ah that’s nice. I didn’t know that it hides them for the camera item

Actually dumb question, would a camera border shop be a good idea? Like a thing where you can buy little borders for photos you’ve taken?

[ashen tusk]

I think it would be similar to feedback about camera filters during the season, might be worth asking for in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived

[hazy musk]

Uhm- so my sister deleted the beta and i couldn’t find it on the appstore is there a way to retrieve it?

[somber bane]

I know this isn't the topic being discussed but I absolutely love that the new quest is basically helping the dreams guide achieve their dreams and then them retiring and opening up a cape shop

Just worried that people who've already completed the season like I did might not get that that was the point

[misty delta]

a toggle for comment options? none, friends, or anyone? maybe? hm thinkin on the spot and hi i neber talk here PFFT

[somber bane]

bc it took me a few mins to get that the quest wasn't just reviving them

[ashen tusk]

so true cause I didn't get that vibe at all since I finished the season quests before aviary 5 arrived

[karmic frigate]

Which device/platform were you playing on?

[hazy musk]

i’m playing on my iphone 13

[late sonnet]

get testflight and download from there
you should be able to rejoin as long as you linked your beta acc to something that's not just the local acc (I believe gamecenter has had issues)

[soft rose]

I mean, it’s the same idea. Help a long-lost guide find purpose in the world after all their dreams had been fulfilled

[hazy musk]

There’s an invitation code-

[late sonnet]

if it asks you to redeem a code ignore that, it doesn't do anything

[hazy musk]

i’m stuck on that screen

It says “Ready to test” and a redeem button

[frosty trout]

Mischief managed. Thanks all!

Hallo again! I've seen some folks say that friend invite codes can be sent through comments—If someone has any screenshots of that, could you send me a quick DM of it?

[soft rose]

But having comments available to all will cause privacy issues and many players to quit using shared items altogether due to fear of harassment

[rugged minnow]

I haven't logged onto beta in a hot minute. So uh... am I the only one who can't get daily quests (as in the button doesnt exist), or see the portal to access Aviary from Home? Or was there something changed? Has the season ended? I'm very confused-

[sudden pine]

uh, you should be able to see the portal; howevert he homeshrine at old home seems to be missing the quests now as a bug (?) but you can get them from the one in aviary if you can get to it

[rugged minnow]

Yeah uhhhh the portal still doesnt exist after reloading

[late sonnet]

the season hasn't ended, you can only grab dailies from the rock in aviary yeah
yeah you should bug report that and take picture as evidence

[rugged minnow]

The candles on the TS platform are also missing... is that intentional too or another bug?

Well rip me I guess I just don't get to participate in the season (lemme fill out bug report-)

[late sonnet]

see if you can warp to a friend who's inside aviary? (idk if this works or not)

[rugged minnow]

I don't have many friends, and the ones I do have hardly play on beta. I'm not too bothered abt it tbh

I am going to go report it regardless tho

[mystic rose]

i was like “would be nice if we had more neutral colored capes” then they just had the moth and sparrow packs😭😭such good capes

[spark lance]

did anyone see the sparrow and moth packs

[blissful harbor]

I love the fluff on the moth and sparrow capes. so cute!

[soft rose]

I think the new intro is incredible, but the music that plays “Overture” isn’t fitting that much. With it being the intro, it should be something foreboding and mysterious to start off the game.

I propose: the Trial Completion theme, Cave of Prophecies theme, the Vault Archives theme, Lost and Found (hugging kid scene), Exhale (PNR music), or Constellation (credits theme)

[spark lance]

im in love with the antenna!!

[boreal kelp]

你们好

[white sparrow]

Hint hint nudge nudge tgcMaybe a new intro peice with aurora starring it it would be so awesome if that happened

[fair eagle]

I find the look of the new antenna slightly unsettling, I’m not sure what it is

[spark lance]

really? :00 i think theyre very cute

[white sparrow]

I think it’s the sharpness of the ‘hairs’ on the antenna I put feedback that maybe they could round them off a tad

[spark lance]

oo yeah good point

[restive briar]

哈喽

[fair eagle]

Idk I like how they look, but at the same time they are just a bit… off, in a slightly unnerving way. Perhaps I just have some unconscious fear of moths!

[boreal kelp]

你知道光遇测试服的名额什么时候发放吗

[gilded parrot]

We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @boreal kelp. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.

[restive briar]

For some reason the new season’s door is not popping up for me

[boreal kelp]

Does anyone know when the quota for the light encounter test suit will be released next time?

[restive briar]

I’m not sure

[boreal kelp]

OK

[restive briar]

Help does anyone knows why?

[white sparrow]

It’s most likely a bug in beta for the moment. For now make a bug report and send it on in the beta bug report channel

[restive briar]

Kk thx

[spark lance]

I can’t get over how badly I want that moth cape 🥹🥹 it’s going to be so cute to be an actual moth. I want it now. Seeing those videos it’s almost torture hahaha because I want that cape NOW sky kid stomps now!! 😭 since mobile beta testers are getting it I am hoping it’ll be across platforms at pc release as I don’t think my laptop will run sky as it’s not a gaming pc. And all of us need those capes!!! I am ready to pay 😭 I will sell soul. Since moth had cute antennas I wonder if sparrow will have a sparrow mask or something

[iron elbow]

it does have a sparrow like mask! here, the last pic, it has the markings sparrows have
#beta-screenshots-videos message
by cy

[spark lance]

Omg sooo cute thank you I didn’t notice it omg I can’t wait to be a moth and sparrow!! Omg can we get a release date for pc already since this must be releasing then I want it now 😭😭 given they had the demo out I wonder if it’ll release November or latest December like ps4 released last year. I want moth and sparrow now 😭🤣

[stable quiver]

I’m actually hoping for some igc items instead of more iap. Wouldn’t it be nice to have new players to have the moth outfit for free? If they’re getting rid of old cosmetics available from previous years, it’ll be nice for newbies to have something new at least. A entry package if you will. Besides it’s super cute and accurate since they’re moffs

[young gorge]

How do you switch back to the original home if you set your home as aviary?

[twin isle]

Light the candle in home by igloo. There is a return pad to home by the entrance to aviary

[young gorge]

Ohh ok thank you so much!

[spark lance]

While it would be cool for free I don’t think capes that cute and detailed would be free. I’m happy to pay for the sparrow and moth cape, I can’t picture them being free with their cuteness and detail level. I’m guessing they are the IAPs for steam release and hopefully will be across platform too given the popularity. But I don’t think they’ll be free capes

[late sonnet]

well we could get them through mobile as is, they're not PC exclusive so should be available in all the places

[spark lance]

I hope so!! If they made them exclusive there would be riots 🤣 I wonder when pc will release as it’ll have to be timed to that. I can’t wait any longer 😭😭

[marsh peak]

Hi , I want to download beta

[late sonnet]

read #beta-faq

[molten trench]

how do u get the moth stuff

[hollow cape]

We could get the nintendo pack in beta as well the only we couldn't get was the journey pack since Playstation didn't had beta

[fiery leaf]

Help! Where do I get the moth cape and tufts???

[proper glen]

please check #beta-faq to find out how to sign up

[molten trench]

wdym 🛒

[late sonnet]

the ingame shop where all the IAP usually are, open it
it's a shopping cart icon

[marsh peak]

I don't know English. I'll translate

[fiery leaf]

Let’s say I’m a noob and idk where that is

[late sonnet]

are you in beta? (just checking because you don't have the usual important roles on your user)

[fiery leaf]

I’m not is that where I have to be to get it?

[late sonnet]

beta is a completely separate app to live for testing stuff that will arrive to the live game
you'll have to wait for this patch to be released to get it later

[valid kraken]

did they add day and night cycle to Aviary village ?

[fiery leaf]

How to get that? I will cry if I don’t get to be a moth. Oh

I have sky beta on my pc

[late sonnet]

do you mean the actual sky beta or pc demo
if it's sky beta homespace should be in snow mode for you rn

[fiery leaf]

I’m not sure tbh let me look

[royal vapor]

I pray night won't come once a week

[fiery leaf]

Ah no it’s the demo. How do I get the beta?

[late sonnet]

go read #beta-faq for that information

[marsh peak]

Is the iOS beta full?

[fiery leaf]

If I buy the moth stuff in the beta test do I get it in my normal account?

[delicate mason]

There is no current beta invite wave, if you are looking into participating in beta check beta faq

[late sonnet]

live and beta are two completely separate apps that do not impact each others' progress whatsoever

[fiery leaf]

Sad so I have to wait to get it in the normal account. Thanks for the answer

I hope it’s released soon.

[wet light]

I’m glad TGC are updating their inbox, this way might make compensation much easier.

[delicate mason]

Beta sky is for testing meaning everything is Wip and usually broken it may seem like it's beneficial with having free iaps and things earlier but please understand that it is not intended to be used as an alternative to the Live version of sky

[marsh peak]

Do items disappear later? When new update comes

[late sonnet]

they can, sometimes

the crabula cape (that's shown in promotion recently, it's the dracula cape) vanished from everyone's inventory one update and it hasn't come back since then

[marsh peak]

When will an invitation link come again?

[late sonnet]

when they need more testers (there is no date)

[craggy gull]

I really like the ultimate cape but as I got it I felt a little underwhelmed from the trail colors. I had heard that it had a rainbow/colorful trail color to it, which I thought was super cool and unique! However as I started testing it out I could barely see the colors and could only see them as I had used my light. It felt very muddled with the white trail we normally have, so I'm wondering if this is going to change or if it was just a bug in my case?

[late sonnet]

no it's intentional
it comes out of the small streak of light out of your hands rather than affecting the cloud trail like the usual coloured trail spells do, so it would look a lot more minimal in colour effect due to the smaller range

[craggy gull]

I feel like I could work with that of I could see it more, I guess I feel a little disappointed. Ah well, I hope it can be more visible in the future.

[late sonnet]

feedback it anyway
they've tweaked that kind of thing in past seasons but usually gave players a heads up that it will change in patch notes so who knows

[tired lichen]

arrggh... trying to play the demo but its just this black screen after the logo loads after a few mins :')

[hollow compass]

You can talk about the demo or ask questions in the PC demo channels instead of here in the beta ones

So, I'm intrigued by this new inbox "feature". Will they be using it for compensation or surprise gifts...?

[tired lichen]

WAIT ARGH.. THOUGHT I SENT IT THERE 💔 ((prob a sign i shouldSLEEP))

[toxic garden]

Sorry. How often does invites send?

[unreal python]

It's random and unknown. You just have to be patient, it could be next week or it could be many months from now

[barren crow]

is it a known bug already that in beta the regular statue in original home space that gives the seasonal candle and the daily quests, is not showing the daily quests now that you’re able to switch the aviary to be your default home space? like, i have not yet switched my default home to be the aviary, but i still have to go to the statue in the aviary to get the daily quests, and can’t access them in the default home space. the (!) does not even show up

[toxic garden]

Thanks

[late sonnet]

if it was a known bug it would appear in #beta-known-issues
if not then report it

[barren crow]

i see several people have already reported the same issue… seems there are lots with the new ability to switch default home to be the aviary. but that’s expected, it’s a big change i would think

[hollow compass]

Everyone should have that possibility. If you don’t, please bug report that too

[hazy musk]

pls help how can i install the beta on ios, it was accidentally deleted 😭 i could only play it on my broken android phone

[dry ibex]

Did you recently change phones?

If you previously played the beta on android, but changed to an iOS device, you will have to wait for an invite wave unfortunately.

If you previously played the beta on iOS, but you deleted the app, it should still show up in TestFlight

[raven geode]

hello, how to become a beta tester and how long will it take to wait for a wave of invitations, otherwise I’ve been waiting for the third month but it still hasn’t arrived(

[late sonnet]

read #beta-faq, and just keep waiting

[raven geode]

How do you know that you have become a beta tester?

[late sonnet]

When you're able to download the beta app

[narrow willow]

Is there a way to get back to original home after switching aviary to default home?

[calm heart]

Yes, there should be a platform where you can meditate to get back to the island

Near the gate of the village where you came in

[narrow willow]

Oh I see it now. Thanks!

[shy ore]

Re: @signal wing #beta-screenshots-videos message
I think Grandma's defrosting state freezes all over Homespace

[frosty notch]

Hello everyone, I need to ask a few questions: I bought all the seasonal clothes but I lack heart, thank you very much everyone 🙏

[half kestrel]

1. You need to buy season hearts separately, from a different location though I don't really know
2. Ask #questions-and-help if its a live thing

[frosty notch]

I play beta version

[odd lintel]

The seasonal hearts are available at the top of the cosmetic trees

[rugged glacier]

Hello!
The mail that gives the items
Do work for me, it works I'm happyyyyyy

[void bramble]

Daily quest error?

[dry ibex]

Anyone else having the problem where the social spells (memory candles / shared spaces) don’t refresh? So I can only see 4-5 friend candles at home but they don’t switch rotation, and I know more friends placed candles 😭

[old hawk]

the aviary portal isnt at my home, am i missing something? i just came back on beta haha,,

[hollow compass]

What version are you on? Also, how far along are you in the game?

[half lagoon]

Do you have it updated?

[old hawk]

i just downloaded it earlier

[old hawk]

0.23.4.233714. and uhh, i think i went to eden before leaving the game because i had 12 wl when i came back

[hollow compass]

well, that's odd. Is it not there even if you approach the place it used to be in the water?

[old hawk]

nope

[iron elbow]

are you willing to die again? cause you'll be respawned in the aviary either way

[hollow compass]

did you play Aviary season at all so far?

[half lagoon]

Do you have all the doors open?

[old hawk]

i got the bundles and everything, i even collected some seasonal candles

[iron elbow]

wait, but did you finish quest 4?

[old hawk]

no ? i havent done any quests

[iron elbow]

oh

[hollow compass]

interesting

[iron elbow]

no but dying in eden might be a legitimate strategy, that's our new respawn point

[hollow compass]

but isn't it interesting that the portal seems to be gone in this version, if you haven't done any quests?

[iron elbow]

yeah it's very weird

[old hawk]

errmm so is dying the only thing i can do now? idk if you're implying something
the door was on the live though

[hollow compass]

We're thinking that if you do Eden you will automatically spawn in Aviary after

[mental solar]

Forgot the stickers are a thing.

Btw... How can we let devs known that the feature of gifted candles they mentioned in #beta-announcements
Worked?
On feedback or only let them know if it doesn't work?

[hollow compass]

I think we only needed to let them know via bug reporting, if it didn't work?

[iron elbow]

yeah everyone who gets reborn is automatically sent to the aviary in the current build

[old hawk]

alr, ill come back after dying lmao thank youu

[iron elbow]

sagomay was in the chat earlier when those were sent out, you'll probably only need to report if they don't

[mental solar]

Oh ok. For me it worked so... I don't have to say anything. only report it as bug if it didn't worked

[old hawk]

wait i dont need to necessarily die in eden right i forgot

[iron elbow]

no you have to get reborn, so the whole thing

[old hawk]

ah, thanks 🥲

[iron elbow]

(I swear we're not messing with you 😭)

[spare valve]

hello can i ask? sky beta ios no new pack?

[proper glen]

no pack of what?

[brittle sierra]

You mean the moth pack?

[soft rose]

That would be an interesting idea, to help players show there’s more to the world. But does this mean we’ll start at home?

[iron elbow]

that's not an idea, that's just how it is in the current ver
you die -> you orbit -> you land on the aviary platform (not where the portals are)

[gilded parrot]

Hey everyone, I’m gonna put this boat on my head

[earnest lily]

I have a question, are we able to go back to the old home? Because i was too excited and accidentally clicked the new spawnpoint at the Aviary

[hollow compass]

yes, we are. if it's difficult to understand how to do that, please leave #beta-feedback

[earnest lily]

Thank you

[old hawk]

it worked! thanks :3

[iron elbow]

wait, could you tell us if the portal will appear for you later when you leave

[old hawk]

sure, but ill do the quests first so idk

[old hawk]

nvm i just went home and it did

[iron elbow]

yay?
glad to hear dying was the answer all along

[odd lintel]

Remember kids, if you ever have any problems, JUST DIE

for legal reasons, this is a JOKE, DO NOT take it serious 😭

[nova fable]

(I know beta is not final)
Just want to hear other's thoughts on this.

Sparrow/Moth pack. What would be a fair price for these items on their own (no candle bundles to justify higher costs)?

[steep kite]

Seeing the IAP packs in sky, my guess would be $19.99. And if they feel generous, then they might give it in $14.99, but not less than this.

[royal vapor]

As they add this function I think Nintendo home should be a choice for Nintendo players

[oak juniper]

Id pay About 10 bucks max for them each

[odd lintel]

pineapple

[nova fable]

I have a bit of a gripe with the costs in general.
Aside from the currency difference, I would at times find the cost of cosmetics be a bit much.
For example, the fashion pants was priced as much as I could get a pair of pants in real life (fair, it would not be a nice looking pair, but something to wear regardless).

A season pass usually has higher level emotes and cosmetics (let's suppose at least 3/4 items), which goes for 20$ per pass (per player).

I was told somewhere the packs would go for 24.99$ each 💀
Which would make them more expensive than a season pass.

[nova fable]

same tbh

[oak juniper]

Maybe 15 for the moth one if the antennae are unchanged
The outfit potential is unmatched

[steep kite]

They might go that high, it's possible. Because for one, "moth" term is very common and widely used and loved. Second, it has been awaited by lot of sky players (the moth cape I mean). Because of demand, popularity, and work they have done on the moth pack, it may cost $24.99

[nova fable]

If these packs were combined and sold as 24.99$, how would this feel?

(I'd be tempted, since it is the two capes and the head accessory)

A moth rarely is able to afford season passes (or rarely considered investing in the game by buying passes), unless they can afford to spend without issues, or trust the company/game.

[naive viper]

if they price it that high it just feels like taking advantage of ppls nostalgia for the moth term -_- i guess its a good business practice but cmon

[restive root]

Since the packs are probably gonna be permanent things, and since they're gonna be intended to be a moth's first iap or whatever, I think the prices will be lowered to maybe like... 5-7 bucks.

[spare valve]

yes

[nova fable]

Agreed.

This is why in the original question the cost would be justified with padding candle bundles with the cost.

Adding candles to sweeten the deal is not an issue. The issue is those who would like the cosmetics, not the candles with the cosmetics.

[somber blaze]

I would want them to be AT MOST like 15$ each that's still a lot but I'm just being realistic about they're past pricing, I wouldn't be surprised if it's 20$ each 😭😨

[naive viper]

god i hope so

[restive root]

Tbh, pricier cosmetic packs only really make sense when they either A: unlock a secret area, or B: are only available for a limited time. So have the moth and sparrow packs, which will be available forever i assume, be just as costly as both of those examples just wouldn't make sense.

[nova fable]

It would be sadly obvious for players wise to the value of costs may be a bit bitter meeting a player with cosmetics they know are expensive.

The devs would most likely not intend for players to 'rank' other skykids based on appearances, which is largely why they opened the accessibility to past season cosmetics with TS's and relive past season memories. Nor would they want to gatekeep cosmetics, hence few items would be sold with an advantage to game play.

However, it does not mean exclusivity is off the table (I'm biased on this matter, please take this into account).
I am not a fan of exclusive items when the feature that makes them exclusive is unfair or superficial.
One of the biggest offenders are platform exclusive items, most notably the Journey Pack.

Journey is a game made by TGC, and yet Sony owns the rights. This prevented an old feature considered to be added in Sky where players could become travellers.
But alas, skykids can dress up like travellers if they happen to own a playstation and buy the pack(or know someone who would gift them the pack).
For me, this gives the impression of the pack comes with a hidden cost (that you had to buy a playstation 4/5) in addition to the upfront cost.

The beta capes (founders cape) are an exception for the reason that they are not purely exclusive. Players can access office any time if there is an event, or a friend.
The cape does not represent the exclusive access to the office, it represents someone who spend money to support the company.

Should one not know the difference between a founder cape and a [insert console or PC name here] exclusive pack.
Feel free to discuss.

[gilded parrot]

@nova fable, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta.

[pallid dome]

Give a raise to a person who even had idea with making moth packs

Oh my god, this update makes me smile, give a raise to a whole team

I never smiled like that before, even the emptiness around the portal in the aviary area looks fine

[nova fable]

The company is a business, and they would understandably would like to earn an income for making the items and profit.

A person who can afford to pay for something, would naturally pay for it if they want it badly enough.
However, it may not be the same for others who may want the item as well, but would not want to pay for a higher cost.

I hope TGC may consider this in their marketing.

[spark lance]

HOLLY THERES A NEW CAPE AND ITS MOTH PACK AND THE OTHER ONE??

[mental solar]

Actually the sparrow set is based on japanese players who instead of moths they call newbies sparrows, that's why.

[white sparrow]

I’m so happy about the new rebirth intro! It’s got all the other tgc games vibes mashed into one experience

[dull tiger]

Just updated the game and started playing new beta season late...is there supposed to be no season introduction? I didn't get the usual cutscene that tells me whats going on this season, and I cannot find the questgiver. Is this supposed to happen?

[twin isle]

Anyone else just super excited because aviary season has good cosmetics and these iap packs have good cosmetics just feels really exciting for future of this coming year. They haven't missed in terms of my tastes for cosmetics with this season and days of events... I'm so excited.

[molten sun]

there is a whole new realm behind the statue in home, the guide is there

[dull tiger]

Mmm, I think I just have to restart the game. I only have the original seven

[dry ibex]

Me too I agree wholeheartedly

[iron elbow]

if that doesnt work - try doing a full eden run
you'll get reborn in the aviary and the portal will actually appear at home

[unborn grotto]

are the seasonal quests bug?

[timber oak]

What happened to that crab cape (not crabula) 🤔

[ashen tusk]

scrapped presumably

[radiant drum]

@modern marten hey there regarding your message in our #contact-the-mods channel, please note moderators can only help with server-related matters there. If you have a question about Beta, you can ask others in this channel!

Make sure to check out our #beta-faq channel as well

[dull tiger]

Okay! Thank you much for your help!

[modern marten]

How do I become a beta sky player. Who do I have to ask and what channel/s do I have to go through?

[radiant drum]

You need an invite to join any of the Beta programs, those are sent when TGC needs new testers! There’s more information in #beta-faq, as well as a role you can get there to be notified when invite waves happen

Which platform do you use for Sky?

[modern marten]

I use an Huawei p30

[neat maple]

Idk if this is a bug but

1. Wear any of the new moth hairs
2. Relog back in sky
3. You wear the og moth hair

[strong sentinel]

I also noticed it changes every time I log in. When your avatar haven't fully loaded yet the hairstyles are different every time

[neat maple]

Its basically what you last wore

[dry ibex]

Yeah!!! In the loading screen I have either of the 3 and they change everytime. It’s so cute

[cinder gulch]

while doing tlp hermit valley quest, the last head-pat action bubble didn't pop up, is this a bug?

[spark lance]

For the last season quest, do i need to complete all season of dreams tasks?

[stoic rose]

it's so funny seeing everyone in beta rush to the dreams spiriy guide

[idle gate]

Hello, Beta Sky.
Poll here! React with an emoji corresponding to your answer!

What do YOU do when you find a Beta Bug? 🐛

BEGONE, BUG! I report it IMMEDIATELY!
First, I mess around with it a little.. And then I report it. Gotta have some fun!
I’ve not actually found any bugs when playing! Thanks for the polish, devs!
I do my best to report bugs, but the ones that I discover break my game..
When I see a bug, I report it and move on with my day.
I get a headache because there are SO MANY.. It’s expected in a Beta Test, though..

[chilly orbit]

How do you get the moth ears?

And the wings

[sudden pine]

there's 2 packs in the shop and theyre in the moth one

[chilly orbit]

I cant see any of the packs:( the shop is empty?

Turns out I needed to update sky beta. Usually doesn’t let me on if it’s not updated/it’ll tell me it needs to be updated. Thank u!

[oak juniper]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
Repost for anyone coming into live, New Beta Build cosmetics.

I'd like to hear everyone's opinions on each of them, (Ping me with ideas and when you think they'll be released )

[radiant drum]

@zinc shell hey there regarding your message in our #contact-the-mods channel, please note moderators can only help with server-related matters there. If you have a question about Beta, you can ask others in this channel!

Make sure to check out our #beta-faq channel as well!

[deft silo]

it’s been a long time since I played beta because I’ve been busy… why did they move the season candles around 😭😭 how trippy

[dry ibex]

Seasonal candles rotate every season actually! Although for the past few weeks we’ve had double seasonal candles, and now it’s back to the same old rotation

[robust carbon]

I’m not seeing the Season of Revival portal. I definitely have the current beta installed. Is this happening to anyone else or do any of you know why it’s happening (known issue or anything)? Wanted to ask the community before reporting. I’m iOS beta.

[sullen relic]

You forgot an option: “is this a bug or a feature?? “

[foggy crater]

they're so cute! I wish there was some sort of unfolding/separation(?) mechanic to really make those moth wings pop though

[spark lance]

It's been happening to others too, but is not in #beta-known-issues yet so you should definitely report it

[robust carbon]

Wow, odd that it’s not there already. Okay, thanks!

Everytime I try to report something, it’s usually already known. 😝

[fickle shore]

is moth and sparrow cape going to be pc exclusive??

[strong sentinel]

We don't know yet

[late sonnet]

highly doubt it, if it was only PC testers would have got em and not mobile

[neat chasm]

i love the moth antennae so much
Kind of a personal bias 'cuz fixation on moths lmao

[old nymph]

Am i the only one who thinks Shores of Manna is a bit better of a name than Golden Wasteland, considering we already have a kind of Bible reference with Eye of Eden?

[deft silo]

weird they were always in the same spot for me between moments and beginning of revival. looks like I missed the double candles but since I started playing beta in may this is the first time I’ve seen different spot for SC

[dry ibex]

Yeah! We had the same rotation throughout moments, passage was the best rotation imo usually they’re different

[deft silo]

I seeee

btw sorry if this has been answered before but now that I set aviary as my home how do I get to my friend constellation :0 doesn’t seem like I can access it the usual way from the center platform

[dry ibex]

You have to go back to regular home unfortunately (make sure to leave #beta-feedback about it!!)

[deft silo]

ohh gotcha tysm

[frosty trout]

We're working on a change to make the friend constellation available in Aviary Village too--that'll be in a future build. So no need to do a feedback post just for that point

[left quest]

Sagomay spotted

[frosty trout]

[iron elbow]

hey sago! coukd I ask, is the hermit valley race and other feast 22 activities being gone intentional? :0c

[paper spear]

wait, do we HAVE to do eden for the season quest? 😭

[frosty trout]

I haven't had time to hop into beta--do you mean activities that were only available when DoFeast was active, or something else?

[late sonnet]

ever since DoFeast 2022 the hermit valley 2 player race + the soccer set of village of dreams were there (and are still there in live)
but in this build they both vanished

[iron elbow]

here are related screenshots regarding the topic:
#beta-screenshots-videos message
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[dry ibex]

You had too many spells of it jaws

[ashen tusk]

Icajaws flew too close to the sun spell cap and now you face the consequences

[iron elbow]

(for context: I own 50+ spells of that wooden soccer thing and was planning to max it out by next spring )

[soft pebble]

Are you guys able to unlock or recive dailies in the old home?

[peak wave]

hello, do we know if the lighting briefly changing to looking nighttime-ish before gradually becoming brighter again (upon interacting with the aviary guide, iirc) is a bug or not?

[dry ibex]

I hope not it’s so beautiful

[peak wave]

it is very pretty!! i’m asking more if the changing back to daytime afterwards is a bug haha

[late sonnet]

I mean the same thing happens when you open constellation in homespace so it just reflected the same thing in aviary
it's just more of a gradual change than the instant ARGH ME EYES

[frosty trout]

I'll check on the missing race and etc. Thanks for flagging it!

[ashen tusk]

Update on the missing post-feast activities - fishing is also not active in village now in beta but it is in live

[dry ibex]

Ooooh my bad, I read it wrong! I don’t think so, but I hope we do get the cycle - it looks absolutely wonderful with all the lights and colours let me live in it forever

[peak wave]

of course no worries!! it could be interpreted either way haha; i hope a more permanent day-night cycle gets added too, maybe a sunset/sunrise version

[dry ibex]

Oob’ing out of the rhythm shop did give back Cycle! I don’t know if it’s still happening now but it used to!!

[late sonnet]

the last time I went it was doing the same moody aviary overcast lighting from the earliest builds

[hybrid dust]

If we ever get the day/night cycle in aviary, I think it'd be great to get this kind of gradual transition between night/sunrise/sunset/day as it does really feel like the sun is rising/setting rather than how it is in normal home (will feedback ofc)

[late sonnet]

normal home is like WAPOW 💥 EAT SUNLIGHT AND SUNSET AND RANDOM TRANSITION OUT OF NOWHERE

[dry ibex]

Oooooh I will feedback this, this is a great idea

[ashen tusk]

I like the gradual change when you interact with the guide, hoping that's actually gonna become a proper cycle and not just happening when we go see hopeful

[late sonnet]

I do think we may get the daylight cycle in aviary eventually after the final quest is complete or something
that makes sense to me

[peak wave]

with the way the aviary is designed, the day-night cycle would be so pretty there i do think we’ll get it at one point, i’m excited for if it does happen!!

[sudden pine]

Sunset jumpscare

[autumn spindle]

... you know Aviary has a pretty big view of the sky

Almost make me wish for a meteor shower event

[hybrid dust]

Will be interesting to see new years/winter aviary if it ends up getting anything similar to what the normal home currently gets in terms of theming with the snow/ice. Wait, what about pink home

[late sonnet]

I don't think it would happen so soon because aviary is a fresh season still running but future feast? maaaybeeeee
or they can just snowify a corner of it

[ashen tusk]

that makes me think of the movie your name with that one iconic scene, imagine just sitting atop aviary rooftops and staring into the clouds and sky and just ☄️

[late sonnet]

every time a meteor falls it's either a new skid joining the game or someone crash landing from eden

[frosty trout]

Those of you wanting meteor showers really want Sky kids to suffer I guess

[late sonnet]

(to be fair with how bad the bloom is rn in the game, it would be extra bad for everyone even without skids dying)

[autumn spindle]

Imagine how bad the air traffic would get though
A skykid coming back from Eden percuting a newborn

[late sonnet]

honestly I imagine if we didn't have the 8 player cap we would have a moth tower the height of the belltower

[sudden pine]

☄️ 🦖 🎆

[late sonnet]

it wasn't the falling rocks that killed the dinosaurs, it was reborn skids

[sudden pine]

this is why theres bones every where, rip dinosaurs

[faint ferry]

I just started buying them in live it does suck they'll remove it (or well removed in beta)

[late sonnet]

anyone else impatiently hyped for feast to hit beta because we just have snowy home but nothing else rn

[ashen tusk]

it can't be helped if the suffering looks cool, meteor go whoosh, I go awww neato, fellow sky kid hurtling to the ground is just collateral

[late sonnet]

and that's why krill are so salty for our bodies killing their previously larger kin

[autumn spindle]

Contrary to popular beliefs, skykids love crash landing, it's their favorite past time
This event would be like enrichment for them

[iron elbow]

~~you just want your yeti goggles dont you ~~

[late sonnet]

well that would be nice to save my eyeballs, but I'm just excited to see what else is added
feast is one of my fav events in terms of cosmetics for the year

[late sonnet]

crash crash baby

[autumn spindle]

(I also want my yeti goggles 😔 missed the envent last year)

[late sonnet]

I want to see if the non bloom nuke areas are actually fixed because like
yeti bloom nuke does not work in vault or village of dreams rn in live and it hurts my soul

[thin sedge]

guys what if the aviary changed seasons like normal home

[late sonnet]

likely to only happen after the season is over because it feels weird to force it to change while it's running quests for live

[thin sedge]

yeah it makes sense, I really hope after it they add seasons, It would look beautiful in winter with christmas decorations

[delicate mason]

If it's going to replace home it's gotta have all it's original features and more right?

[heady monolith]

Hello! I've heard that the Sky reborn cutscene and Sky birth cutscene has been changed Is that true?

That sounds awesome I wish I saw that as my entry to Sky. Can't wait for comments about new moth experiences

[late sonnet]

I don't think it's going to replace home and instead just be a variant that people can opt for
because I sure don't want to lose the current homespace as it is, it's more my speed

[delicate mason]

Oh no due to the portal back to home and the candles I assume they are alternatives. I was just stating that for an alternative version of home they should have the same features

Speaking of which, they should add a spot for the boat merchant in Aviary.

I'd like to see a closet too, I know we have the shops but without the closet you still have to go to another realm to get access to everything(while the season is active, and the salon doesn't have hair accessories).

I'm also excited to see how they take events in aviary for the future. Events have been receiving a lot of major updates lately so I'm hoping they do it justice

I might put all my thoughts into a feedback post later, but I hope it they decorate aviary for each event that they do it well, I'm hoping to see rainbows and jellies all around the area for days of colour. I need to see full on decorations for them. It may be a bit much but it will make it feel a lot more like a hub area even for those who choose to stay in the original home.

[late sonnet]

I don't think they need to decorate aviary for every single event otherwise we'll get tired of it like how we keep going ARGH SANCTUARY WHY every year when DoN comes round lol
but once in a while would be fun

[delicate mason]

We could have bonfires for feast and blossoming trees and flowers for bloom, so many possibilities. I'm getting to ahead of myself.

[spark lance]

I want sky to come to pc already what is everyone’s guessing for those playing the beta? After Halloween event or during Christmas? They said end of the year and they’ve tested the demo so I’m curious!

[late sonnet]

jenova said november during an interview so

[spark lance]

Omg I hope so!!! 🥹 would be cool if it came out as Halloween event still going but I’m guessing after Halloween sometime after the 12 maybe 2 weeks after? Hmmmm

[heady monolith]

Yeah technically it's coming by November but we don't know when exactly during then My guess that it's by the end of Nov

[delicate mason]

I see your point, some events don't need much decorations just Indicators of their arrival like days of music feels more like a music shop sale so it doesn't need anything big but maybe even just a couple of signs around aviary like lore relevant advertisements. Like days of rainbow would have a couple rainbows and jellies spread around, it doesn't mean the whole place it decorated it's just a small indicator that "hey there's an event on! Come check it out" if you know what I mean

[molten sun]

it will probably come out once the new beginning cutscene comes to live, so think around the second or third week of november

[late sonnet]

yee like how current homespace has been doing it all this time with just a lil embellishment

[placid iron]

just saw the new update so we can change where we open up at the game anytime im guessing?

[delicate mason]

Yes exactly, except because aviary has a larger space it may be more charming to have these decorations and details spread throughout the village, so it's not in your face but you know its there. Current home could get away with a small embellishment because it was small so it'll have to be bigger in aviary

[placid iron]

forgot to say this too but the candle thing where we change were we start up is at home too as well? ty!!!

[late sonnet]

still love how much more alive aviary feels with the basegame spirits milling about
it makes me so happy because they're usually just here and there for events then we never see them show up again

[molten sun]

do y’all think Revival quests are gonna keep coming out weekly in live? this is such a welcome change, biweekly was extremely tiring 😭

[delicate mason]

I'm gonna stop talking about it now just because I know I'll go on a tangent About how it could work and all my ideas and things and I don't want to take away from actual testing discussion

[placid iron]

by the looks of things yeah but we'll see next week

[molten sun]

if it keeps coming out weekly we’ll get quest 4 on November 6th, so 0.23.4 should come around that week

[fluid socket]

i dont have beta but i do have a question!(let me know if it cant be answered) if you keep normal home as your own home an not aviary i assume the portal to aviary just appears from the water like always?

[ashen tusk]

I feel like it might just be that way for the first two quests since they're relatively small changes to the area, I could be wrong though cause we still have a few nodes left to go in beta so either 2 and a hug or 3 and one quest a week with that amount of quests might check out

[old nymph]

For now at least

I feel like they could be aiming to remove home

At least in the current form

[fervent ridge]

Highly doubt they would remove home tbh
Aviary is nice and all, but there are people who rather like home (And it's actually convenient since you have all the closest like "right next to you")

[proud coral]

Given that we have the option to make homespace our... homespace again I don't think they'd ever remove it. Especially if event tech will be brought to the Aviary Village, there are a lot that will prefer home over the village!

im sorry that accidental super react had me laughing so hard

[molten sun]

I still think festival tech on Aviary will only be activated through a meditation circle like the one we had for bloom, that way everyone can enjoy the area however they prefer

[fervent ridge]

I like aviary for hanging around with friends but I hardly would chose it has my new home (possible lag)

and SORRY NASTY I missclicked

[deft silo]

one question I have about two home spaces is when it comes to playing with friends, what happens when your friend says “home” but one of you has aviary set as home and the other is set to old home? 🤔

[soft rose]

I guessed November 27th, but it seems it’s probably gonna be wrong

Seasons usually start pretty close to a new release

[molten sun]

well… server split?

[cosmic jungle]

Culture shock

[deft silo]

the game shortcircuits and both get sent to the pity room

[spark lance]

I need avatar collab pandora blue glittering cape and pants

[tired silo]

Live player here, I just heard the Aviary Village theme and the motif sounds really similar to a motif that plays throughout the Sangatsu No Lion OST 🥹 Sky:COTL and Sangatsu No Lion are two comfort media of mine so I'm really happy about this coincidence ;w; Anyways, tsym Adam Gubman and TGC for this season

[proper glen]

the current composer is actually adam gubman

[tired silo]

Ah sorry about that!

[proper glen]

it's ok! i was trying to find the exact post about that, and found an old post of mine about not finding the official announcement (deja vu!). but it looks like the news arrived back in january

[peak wave]

i saw people were talking in here about being able to switch between whether you want homespace or the aviary to be the area you spawn into upon starting the game; is this a current option in beta? i can’t seem to see the choice to keep home as the game startup area, i can only manually choose to go back there from the aviary (i might just be blind)

i would hate for homespace to be removed entirely lol, for reasons already mentioned by others- i also wouldn’t like not being able to have that space be where you spawn into, like not having the choice

ahhhh never mind, found the option! i’m just blind lol; took me a while to figure that out
i’ll keep the message posted here for the last part about the idea of homespace being removed

[delicate mason]

Yeah the candle might be a bit hard to see having the homes winter skin active

[fast fulcrum]

guys, where can i download beta app on ios? help me please

[pearl cypress]

You can get the app after you have become a beta tester. To become a beta tester you need to accept the invite sent by tgc

[fast fulcrum]

he send me to dm?

[late sonnet]

read #beta-faq it has all the details you need to know

[ember cedar]

random thought but they should add snow in aviary if its christmas and halloween decorations if its halloween

[void sierra]

Help please! I chose the Aviary as my new home space before I realized that I cannot access my friend constellation there. Now, I can't return to our original home space. Does anyone know how I can reverse this bad decision?

[twin isle]

Near the entrance of aviary there is a return pad to home

[gentle girder]

I agree it's more convenient , but tbh the shops for changing seems more human-like, like to me it seems more realistic

[fervent ridge]

Actually talking with some friends we agreed about aviary looking like a shopping mall

[placid iron]

late also it's still got most of the main event teleports there sooo (plus the entire area changes during the christmas season as well)

(also im pretty sure theyd keep it for devices that run on lower settings as well bc the aviary looks huge and is kinda overwhelming)

tldr the same reason why the aviary was originally replaced w home lol

[void sierra]

Thank you 🌷

[old elk]

The sparrow Cape and moth ears ate

[delicate mason]

Now, thanks to cy, I want a little moth and sparrow shoulder pets

Also as a joke I think it would be funny to see a moth (like irl moth) mask since it would look really strange without antenna. Give me the massive black bug eyes hahaha

[twin isle]

Scary 😥

[valid flint]

I want to ask, that the quest giver is sitting at the eden door, what should I do next to complete the quest...?

[abstract vortex]

I just hope that aviary will adjust with the seasonal events as well, like the changes, snow rinks , pink grass , bloom tree it makes no sense to be a home option without the seasonal/event guides in there, Also the option to have the festival tech is a good idea, the same with how the passage area works where there is a place to activate in on some way. Personally I dont like it but to have the option to experience both solemn and festive area is amazing

[deft silo]

is it considered a known issue that the home platform in aviary doesn’t charge u like home space? also that the return shrine is broken in aviary

[late sonnet]

if it’s not in #beta-known-issues then report it

[dry ibex]

I hope at the end of the season we get a toggle for the music, like in Windpaths so the old aviary music isn’t really gone forever, but we get to choose

[white sparrow]

Does reliving the corresponding seasonal quest no longer change the music? At least that was what I did with past seasons seasonal quests

[scarlet junco]

You have to enter eden and go through all of it. Then go back to the seasonal area

[tawny hornet]

How do I turn home back into home and not aviary?

[hollow compass]

there's a toggle for music choice in Windpaths? 😮

[halcyon wadi]

Hi guys, i have had a beta before “ios” but i changed my phone and I can’t download the beta again, how can i have it back on my new phone?

[late sonnet]

if it’s been a while since you were last in ios beta you were likely kicked out and need to wait for a new invite wave to rejoin

[late sonnet]

1. sit at homespace medi shrine in aviary (left of entrance)
2. go to the big white candle near the left of closet and toggle

[misty harness]

krill’s getting stronger. 🤭

[scarlet junco]

Does anyone else have the problem (with Google play store) that beta won't update?

[whole plank]

read #beta-faq and try do the troubleshooting.

[rugged kindle]

yup! there's a little (actually quite big lol) windpath's symbol like thingy in chimesmith's house/workshop and you go near it and click music note icon!

[dry ibex]

So usually phones will stop downloading if there isn’t enough storage space. That happens, but there’s a way to solve this problem though!

make sure your account is / was linked, if it is, then here’s a step-by-step guide on clearing cache for Android: #beta-faq message

This should solve the problem! But again your account really needs to be linked or else you’ll lose all progress

[scarlet junco]

Well, I do have enough space though, that's the odd thing about this

So what happens is, it does download, but then doesn't install, it has a problem with installing after it has downloaded it all

[dire palm]

Sky is lack of hair type of straight and long

[dry ibex]

Have you tried following the steps?

[dry ibex]

Oh I’m late to this sorry, but after Q2 the music changes indeed! I just mean the very first sound track, the festive one!

[scarlet junco]

Not yet, I will once I get home.
Thank you though!

[steady moth]

Anyone else just like unable to set the aviary as their new home?

[dry ibex]

Whut did you do all quests and go to the big candle at the homeplate in aviary?

[steady moth]

I did ye

I clicked on the "make this your new home" but like i keep spawning at homespace 💀

[lethal sedge]

Someone report these bugs for me, I'm going to sleep.

Candles are missing from center of old home

Inside the cave where the fireplace is meant to be is a glitched looking hole

You can't unlock dailies in old home and only in Aviary

You can't open friend Constellation in Aviary only in old home

[hollow compass]

No, you need to do that yourself, because we don't have info on your device setup

[rapid junco]

How can I play the Sky beta?

[grim idol]

To play sky beta you need to get the role "Beta Invites (ping)" from #beta-faq and then wait for an invite wave in the #beta-signup-info . after that you get the invite, if you are an Android user you can download Sky Beta from Google Play Store, and if you are an IOS user you can get it from TestFlight.

• Please remember to read the #beta-faq first before you get to beta.

[quiet cliff]

Hi guys …. I’m slightly confused I have completed all tasks but I have no option to keep Avery as my home space

Alo one house is still derelict

Nope 2 house

[hollow compass]

If you're finding it hard to change spawn point, please remember to #beta-feedback
Also, do take note of how many quests are still remaining

[quiet cliff]

There’s no quest giver anymore I can’t find them just random spirits that you can’t interact with , my question to you all is have I missed something ?

[hollow compass]

I don't think so. The quest giver is still there for me. Where are you looking?

[quiet cliff]

I’m looking everywhere

[hollow compass]

Is your game updated?

[quiet cliff]

Where is yours located ?

[hollow compass]

In Aviary, same place it's always been

[lethal sedge]

If you see the same bugs as me then I don't see a problem

[peak wave]

iirc (dont quote me on this) they change locations after each quest you do; if you’ve completed all of them so far, the questgiver should be located right by the beginning of the area

[hollow compass]

You know that's not what I meant

[naive viper]

are you spawning into regular home just when you start the game, or also when you use the "go to home" button in the menu while youre out in the realms?

[rapid junco]

tyy ❤️

[quiet cliff]

I’m now spawning to new home

[naive viper]

i was gonna say, i was having the same issue but then i fixed it by going to a realm and using the go home button! im glad it worked for you too 😁

[exotic gorge]

I can’t wait to see the Aviary decorated for Christmas lights tree snow ball fights ice-skating ring Christmas music if it happens 🥺🙏

[odd lintel]

welp I can crawl back into my cave on beta

[rare gust]

does anyone know how to change the language in game when on pc?

[chrome ivy]

Got the mail rewards, and surprisingly, it drop's into the inventory when you close the inbox without restarting the game.

[bright warren]

Why there no npc spirit at my aviary?

[dry ibex]

Any spirit? Which quest are you on?

[bright warren]

Quest 5 and still don't see any spirit at aviary, just candlemaker

[dry ibex]

Did you relive the others? Like the etc?

[bright warren]

Yes

[dry ibex]

That’s strange, if you relived those spirits, they should show up in aviary for you. Report it as a bug! I haven’t heard of people NOT seeing any spirits

[bright warren]

Oh i need to relived it? ._.

[dry ibex]

Yeah, the spirits whose memories you relived / spirits who you brought to the their respective temples show up in a rotation in aviary!

[bright warren]

Well that explain why they didn't show up ._.

[hollow compass]

but only regular ones

[old nymph]

does sky even HAVE a feature to change the language?

[chrome ivy]

Go to Properties for Sky in Steam and change Language in that way. Only Mobile user had to change the entire language settings to change Sky Language.

[fast skiff]

For iOS, you just got to change it from the Sky app in device's settings

[rare gust]

ohhhh idk why i thought it did omg

[spark lance]

No but from what I heard you can change the language in settings (only in iOS)

[spark lance]

I guess you can change the language by changing the language on your phone in settings it works for android too

[muted radish]

Idea: Just rebirth the player in where their home it set :0 (Lol I already think this is what'll happen, but it'll make both sides happy)

[dry ibex]

That’s how it should be! I think for now we land in aviary regardless, what I assume is a bug

[spark lance]

I've had this idea for a while now, and I think it would be great if we could buy one of the old ultimate rewards for like 5th anniversary
I think that would be great for players that missed out on the old seasons

[dry ibex]

Bubba and me will get the sanc ult handpan the second it drops

[spark lance]

Without hesitation im choosing rhythm

[muted radish]

Exactly, I think TGC is already doing this
This is beta after all

[dry ibex]

I landed in aviary when I got reborn, even though it’s not my home - so I guess it’s a bug . I like that we have an option to choose

[ashen tusk]

Real

[peak wave]

i find it interesting that a lot of beta players seem to prefer the old homespace as their home- im in the same boat, i kinda assumed itd be an unpopular choice loll

[near scroll]

how to login to sky beta?

[ashen tusk]

homespace is just a really comfortable size area to load into for me personally, I love aviary so much but the scale of the area feels intimidating to load into immediately

[dry ibex]

Its just because of efficiency, it’s what we’re used to!

• accessible closets, close to eachother
• easy to meet up with friends
• “ok home” after cr
• easy to go to realms (we don’t need to go far)
• it’s quiet, and I like that. It has no music, which is nice sometimes

[peak wave]

exactly, to both responses!! homespace disappearing was one of my biggest fears in early season testing; i guess i assumed it would be unpopular because so many people missed the aviary from light awaits?

it’ll be interesting to see if a lot of live players also agree

[ashen tusk]

I think there's plenty folks who prefer aviary and have disliked home because of it lacking detail, connections with lore, like it's just a space completely outside of the kingdom of sky, and some people don't like how small it is - but to me it fits the bill for it being a good start point, it's not overwhelming and like Sof said it's easy access for closets, realms. Sometimes simple works best and that's why I enjoy homespace

[peak wave]

yup, it’s simple and straightforward! on top of these points, i think it’s a bit easier to run into friends there, given how it’s much smaller; i would definitely miss spawning into the game and seeing a friend right there to greet me

it also just blends into the loading screen (the animation of the “camera” zooming across the water approaching homespace when you first open the game) perfectly, which makes me wonder if they’ll add a new similar animation for players who chose the aviary as their home

[ashen tusk]

I was gonna type something else about light awaits having the private space plus aviary and how there're now similarities between homespace plus aviary but brain go brrrr

but homespace nice, aviary nice, sky nice

[ashen tusk]

Ohhh what does the loading screen look like for those who have aviary set as home? does it do the water screen load or?

[peak wave]

it does, but right before it zooms in on the quest statue (i think) it fades to white and puts you in the aviary

[rustic leaf]

... how do I go back to homespace? ^^;; I set spawn to aviary to try it out but I can't figure out how to go home

[ashen tusk]

Ohh that would feel a bit disjointed to see each time, I really enjoy how seamless the load in is with homespace, I wonder if they'll update it or leave it like that for aviary

[peak wave]

it’s near the beginning of the aviary area to the left; you should see something that looks like you can mediate there? i don’t know what it’s called 😭
from there, you can also find a white candle in homespace to put it back as your home

[rustic leaf]

I see it, thank you!

Def sending feedback about this ^^;;

[peak wave]

for sure! i think in a future update they’ll add a new transition; felt very odd the first time i saw it haha

[maiden pond]

I sent feedback about it too, so you're not alone.

[ashen tusk]

It would be helpful especially for new players to have like a cutscene at some point that highlights where the homespace teleport stone is, cause it's really out the way and doesn't have much to draw attention to it/explain what it does

[late sonnet]

I think it’s still wip because if you oob into the wall, there’s the warp statue stuck inside it so it’s not perfect

[ashen tusk]

FREE THE STATUE

[peak wave]

ahhh yeah, the point about new players is making me think a little bit; specifically the decision to have them spawn first into the aviary
wouldnt it be a tad overwhelming for some to start there, with 0 knowledge off the bat on what seasons are, and limited access to the realms? like, if someone were to go do the quests, they would get stuck on the dreams one- might be confusing
in addition, it’s very dark and gloomy there before doing any quests; homespace is much more warm and welcoming

[serene trout]

iirc from a video i saw yesterday of someone playing the new intro, it shows new players the home teleport after they do eden the first time

[ashen tusk]

Ohhh I'll have to see if I can find the video for that, thanks for letting me know!

[hollow compass]

Don't new players spawn on the platform in front of the portals anyway?

[peak wave]

well, yeah, but it’s still a large area overall with lots to explore; unlike in homespace where you really don’t have multiple options on what to do at first
i haven’t seen any newborn moth videos or anything though lol; i might be misinterpreting something partially

[hollow compass]

I understood that moths will spawn on the platform, just like before. But the question is if they can then turn around and explore, or if the area is closed off somehow before they reach Valley

[autumn spindle]

Here's the new intro, if you guys are curious:

#beta-screenshots-videos message

[peak wave]

ohhhh yeah, i was wondering about that too; hence why i said i could be misinterpreting something! i’ll have to look up some videos later to see, i hope that’s the case
if not, feedback time

[hollow compass]

Oh, thanks! Interesting to watch. It's terribly flashy and not very friendly to photosensitive players. Also, the person who posted the video has 14 wedges, but wakes up as a moth...?

[wheat panther]

In the aviary vs home discussions, has anyone bought up the other home look alikes and what players like about those vs dislike? Ie Nintendo area, office space, performance (has closets).

[hollow compass]

Those are not other homes, though

[wheat panther]

Correct but they are home look alikes. I just thought it would be interesting to compare.

[hollow compass]

I am missing proper closets in Aviary, but otherwise I like the whole are better than current Home

[autumn spindle]

Yeah definitely not for sensitive eyes
As for the 14 wedges, I imagine the intro tries to go into "game shows you OP then makes you back to level zero" happens a lot (like with FF15)
It is the new player intro, being shown freely flying at high speedm with a calm, triumphant music - it's clearly trying to leave an impact to new players, make them interested into playing the game long enough to be able to the reach that form again

[wheat panther]

For me, I like the weather changes and time of day changes of home. If that was implemented into aviary I would reconsider it making it default home

[hollow compass]

I'm not so sure about the 14 wedges being part of the game intro, tbh But since nobody else seems to have remarked on it, I suppose it's ok

Re: Aviary: I don't think it'll be fun trying to manouvre several other Sky kids in the hair chairs or the tiny rooms for the shops just to change your outfit

[autumn spindle]

Weather and time changes might be for the final quest
The season is only half way through in beta after all

[peak wave]

maybe they’ll make it so that once you go into one of the “closet rooms”, all other players disappear so you’re briefly completely solo? especially if they add festival tech, that would not be fun

[autumn spindle]

I'm curious as to why 14 wedges might be a problem, could you tell me? (Well, not sure if "problem" is the right word, but you get what I mean... hopefully- not trying to start a fight, just curious)

[hollow compass]

that would be a good solution, yes, although seeing as there are 3 chairs at the hairdresser I kind of don't think they will

[hollow compass]

14 wedges is a problem because you can't have that in the game currently, so it means someone did something they're not supposed to be doing 😉

[peak wave]

ahhhh i completely forgot about the multiple chairs; maybe just a lower player cap then?
assuming they won’t add the festival tech, having at most 8 players running around in such a small room (especially the space with the enchantment guide ) would be… a lot lol

although then again, it can be a similar situation in homespace, trying to change hairstyles or other with other players in the same space

[autumn spindle]

Oh no, it's not cheating don't worry
Every time someone posted the intro, they had 14 wedges

Here's another one: https://youtu.be/SWZa1tL1yZI

[hollow cape]

Umm I still don't see why it's a problem we can't rn but in the future we will be able to get 14 wedges and plus that might be like the ultimate state the game mentions the part our light was infinite

[maiden pond]

What doesn't make sense to me is how we lose that many wedges of light.

[tame blade]

Yeah but for new players right now it may create an unreasonable expectation for the game, since it’s not possible for us right now

[hollow cape]

We land in the floor extra hard maybe that's why and seems like we have amnesia

[tame blade]

Or unrealistic expectation? Or something like that

[maiden pond]

That still doesn't make that much sense. What would make sense is that we pass through some type of storm (or darkness) on the way to our birthplace, where we wake up unknowingly to us that our light had been taken from us, just like how it's told in Isle of Dawn's murals in the first cave.

[steady flume]

i think this beginning sequence is just to show new players the flying mechanic so that they can see how much fun it is, and having lots of wings helps with that. but i feel like 10 wings would probably have the same effect

[hollow compass]

It would be a problem if someone has more wing light than is possible to get in the game. But this seems to be part of the new intro for some reason. Maybe in another 2 years we'll get there for real

[hollow cape]

Well it's a game I never look for sense in a virtual game were we are kid of light tbh

[dry ibex]

As my friend said, it’s the cycle of rebirth. I don’t believe we are the same ‘form’ of Skykids before descend for the very first time. We forget it all

[steady flume]

i still think it's bonk damage from hitting the ground too hard

[dry ibex]

Its strange that it’s 14 wings instead of the usual 7, but that’s maybe the lore peeps will find an answer to that pspspspsps Baud where are you

[peak wave]

this’d be the perfect time to bring back the actual bonk damage from light awaits

[autumn spindle]

I MISS BONK DAMAGE!!

[hollow cape]

Well we were send to aviary to fix the situation but our landing ended wrong leading us to hit the ground so hard that we lost memory and with that probably lost the control over that light

[steady flume]

maybe 14 is the magic sky number
new ts every 14 days

[hollow compass]

two times 7 is fourteen

[hollow cape]

No pls with how bad collision works in this game I'm so glad they took it away

[maiden pond]

Still would make sense for the first time being born to have some kind of explanation. Even if it is the cycle of rebirth, for the first time being born ever in the game you do start off with a lot of light, it probably was taken away when we fell through darkness and nearly cost us our own lives, seemingly on the brink of death. But that's when we're told otherwise.

[hollow compass]

anyway, am I the only one bothered by all the flashing?

[grand fog]

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE 5TH QUEST ALREADY 😭

[hollow cape]

Well if they didn't do it this time with this new intro I think it's because they want to keep it simple and guess all that by ourselves

[maiden pond]

Yeah, I would assume so.

[dry ibex]

I like that there’s no flat out explanation. The lore is sky is designed in a way that it’s up to interpretation, lots to discover now & later. Besides, now we have the old intro and the isle intro is the extension!

[peak wave]

i don’t remember, is there a photosensitive warning anywhere in sky? if not, now would be the time to add one

[dire escarp]

Yep can confirm, the 14 wing power as a new player isn't a glitch or hack, that's what all new players get (very temporarily)

[dry ibex]

What baffled me was that we are literally winged light that can fly

[dire escarp]

Yeah, certainly a bit to unpack in that