#beta-discussion
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i dont think making the spells obsolete would matter but i think we will not get a chibi mask as acessory because ppl paid for a pin with it.
not sure if that makes sense but i remember the door from the prairie temple on forest was closed when they announced a pin for the prairie temple too.
But it was always 70
no, when I bought it for my girlfriend and friend yesterday the actual pants were 65
How did you buy them for someone else, when they're only available for ingame currency?
I bought it off their phones with their candles lol they're not that experienced with the game
Maybe they should be playing Live instead...?
The price probably changed with the update or something I'm sure I'm right because my friend didn't have 70 candles when I bought it for him either
Admiring actor pants is the one that cost 65
The last appearence of troupe greeter on live was 70, so doesnt have a reason to have change for 65, you must be mistaken with the other one
They do? Lots of people are moths to beta and they do leave feedback I just usually buy what they're saving up for after I do their cr
I might be but I was sure it was 65 when I bought it off beta a few days ago rip
I don't quite understand the correlation between being a moth in beta and not being experienced in the game, if they also play Live
Like I said they do leave feedback which is the purpose of beta
Just tell your friends that collecting cosmetics can be hazardous in beta
They know this lol it's off my own account where I can't afford the pants
And also maybe that it's against the ToS to give someone else access to your account
š it's not that deep to take my girlfriends phone and buy the ts pants for her but you need to fact check that before you spread misinformation
are there any comparison pictures of this anywhere? I feel like I've never seen different sizes chibis before 
Okay, I'm here to explain what happened to my acc today. I bought a message boat, planted it and without waiting for it to be placed opened another message boat. This resulted in an instant freeze, and now whenever I try to log in, my beta keeps freezing.
So in conclusion don't mess with boats, everyone 
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Your message boat also just didnāt appear, when normally it should be in your hands after pressing āsendā š
FINALLY got enough tickets to get and test the disco ball. Man what a slog :/ they really need to figure a better way for us in beta to be able to test these ticketed cosmetics out without waiting the whole time to get the tickets. Refreshing the spells would help, cause I used all mine on the first round and didnāt know if they tweaked anything along the way.
tgc should make a beta screenshots and chat channel so ppl don't talk so much on the channel that is for beta screenshots only!
Omg i cant do daily quest because there is already candle note at message shrine
And it has 13 like so i cant delete it
Anyone else having control issues lately. Iāve been getting āstuckā a lot . Like where I canāt move. And the touch taps not registering correctly or a bit off. Like Iāve accidentally hit the ? In the closet like 5 times now when I donāt think I have ever hit that thing before. Something just seems different
That's why we have the testing discussion channels here. To talk about the photos we see
Does anybody know when they will announce aviary update
I had to report my own old message so it will disappear and i was finally able to do meditation 
We know as much as you do! So no idea 
no specific dates but their previous announcement says they plan on starting beta testing later in the year
isn't it a bit awkward to change the channel every time when u want to say something about someone's beta screenshots or drawings?
It would be the same if we had a separate beta screenshots chat as well, would it not? We'd just be flipping to a different chat to talk about it.
but giving compliments or saying a little bit about a photo/drawing is okay, but conversation can come here.
no it would be the same as the sky fanart and chat channel
but with beta fanart and screenshots
Oh so like, posting photos in a chat channel. Hm well idk, maybe you can talk to a mod about that if they pop in some time
Is anybody having issues connecting? It will not let me in at all
theres been issues all week, just good ol beta
Thanks! I just wanted to make sure I wasnāt having some other issues
yeah always good to be safe than sorry!! 
Something i always kinda wanted beta to try and separate (especially now with the separation of certain items) is the witch hatā¦i do remember there being a spell for it, but i think it would be very cool to be dress up as a witch in different hair styles anytime without it being solely confined to the hair..i feel this can apply to other hairstyles too, but the witch mask is most notable to me right now considering theres a spell already for the witch hat being separated..i should maybe slide that into the feedback channel LOL 
Update: sent to feedback! š
i think people want the witch hair itself more than* the witch hat š
LOL i can definitely understand why, its a pretty neat hair by itself š
I already made the suggestion a million times but it might help to add it in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
RIGHT
So with this new UI for memory/messages/shared spaces it makes it harder to just delete them? Itās now buried under the 3 dots? Please I wish theyād add a delete all button :( I hate these things messing up all my pretty pictures and now itās just that much more of a pain to get rid of them
Yeah! I may slide it in there! I also think it would especially be cool for like the people who like making ocs since they will have more expression with what they want their character to look like! š i think this applies to really anyone who wants to express themselves with their characterās appearance, but im using oc creators as an example bc i fall definitely in that category LOL
Also YES!! The hair itself looks really coolā¦i would love to see what it kinda looks like without the hair itselfā¦i have a feeling it may be similar to the cat hair, but i feel like they can be spiky short hair cousins 
You should be able to scroll through them and hide them that way!
Yes! The hat is a neat accessory too but it would be so much better to be able to style each of them seperately since the hair alone is so cool. I also badly want already existing hats like the talented builder hat as accessories so we don't have to be bald 
the baldest hat is the sunbather hat šš its so funny that its hair and not a hat because dude is completely bald šššš
RIGHT but we do get the days of summer hat which is close enough
YES! Just enabling that sort of customization with different hair styles and hats would be so cool imoā¦just imagining all of the cool combos 
I dont even care if there's some clipping I just wanna pair the hats with hairs
am i the only one who likes the new icons? they feel more cute and interesting than the old ones, only issue i have with it is that some of them don't resemble their actual look too much
The heck? Iām getting server errors
how do you guys even get a beta test key š
y'all enjoying the violin without me ššš
#beta-signup-info Days of music is only a couple of weeks away, its okay~
how have i never known this š
oh well thanks anyway
Why when I hide memory candles, two more suddenly appears

No, you're not, I like em too
Can someone tell me what the down arrow for the camera is for? I don't understand it's purpose
For some it seems
yeah i cant log in
It's a focus pointer, you click the arrow which pins the pointer but it's broken as of now
I was going to try and see if my Pro Controller could work on beta but alas it seems I'm also in beta purgatory. 
Servers are down that my home menu is gone 
Itās affecting so many players that there are 0 napkin players at office (Iām not experiencing any server issues)
I keep experiencing them the moment I start the new quest 
Did you by any chance click on "Follow this creator"? Because it seems to make the home menu go poof
I may or may not have clicked that by accident-
I am really confused rn because last time it was fine for me to take a picture with emotes now I canāt now
I've been so unmotivated to beta test lately, which really sucks. I haven't even done a single seasonal quest. I've only been on beta once since the season arrived! 
So for the closet organization I came up with this:
Feedback for Devs on Closet Organization
Cape Closet
Capes
Shoulder Accessories - stole from remembrance, shoulder buddies
Hair Closet
Hairstyles
2 Accessory Categories
- Hair pins, Horns & Earrings
- Hats, Bows, and Crowns (ear muffs/headphones here or with earrings etc.)
Body/Pants Closet
- Equip or remove Chibi mask (being small or normal height)
- Outfits/Pants/Dresses
- Boots/shoes
__Face Closet __
Masks
Elder Masks
2 Accessory Categories
- Face: Glasses, Rose, Mustache, Beard, Face coverings
- Neck: Seasonal Necklaces, Necklaces, Neck Ties/Bows, Scarves
edit: I did send this as feedback already 
I wanna be able to be chibi sized whilst wearing any mask, is that a thing with the latest changes to the closet?
That's why I think Chibi should be a size option in the pants/body closet
Oh no I can't wear the gold rainbow earring with my elder mask anymore :(
And are the glowy eyes removed from elder masks too? D:
yeah they moved things around so some is in different places now and you can't wear same combos as before (which I preferred the way it was before this most recent closet change) that's why I preposed the reorganization like that so it gives more options if it's possible to do it that way. And yes they took the glowing eyes!!! 
The glowing eyes were super integral for my character 
The eyes might come back as their own mask that you can pair with the accessories! Just be sure to suggest it or mention your concerns in feedback
It does all seem like a WIP still, and we have a good while before this update comes to live, and they can always not include it in the initial 0.22.0 build
They should totally keep the toothpick legs in Live. 
Please it gives me the creeps š
But it ruins all the pics
I sent in feedback about not wanting the unique eye shape mask to be lost too. I know my buddy who's been saving for an elder mask in live will be super disappointed if they can't wear the mask with the cool eyes. ^_^;;
Like if we're just talking about aesthetics the eyes are literally the best part
I think the shields are pretty cool, maybe I'll finally use my isle one in live with this
I got them purely for the shield aspect lol, the eyes are just as cool
I wear the mask purely for the eyes/cool glowing transparent crown lol. When I got krilled accidentally and it protected me I was honestly shocked š¤£š¤£
I got them for the shield and don't really like the eyes so I ended up never wearing them, so personally I don't mind this change. I do hope tho the eyes are kept as a mask others can wear!
It just not cool to make an item and have it cost a ton or AC. Then change it or itās functionally on the people who bought it. For whatever reason.
I am still saddened that I canāt sit or do emotes with my camera -<-
Yeah since itās already in live and people bought it in live
Yeah I agree, hence why having the eyes as their own equippable mask would fix this issue. It doesn't change it's functionality which is arguably the purpose of them though
I love the eyes but i dont like the weird jawline the mask gives
if theyd look like the journey mask more I'd love it sm
I just want my silly little eyes
I didn't save for so many months just for them to take it away from me
Is the anniversary event going on in beta? If so, are the event tickets any easier to get or do you still need to sit through the performances?
Theyāre still hidden in performances
Watching 4 performaces = 4 packs of tickets
I gonna miss this anniversary event in live š¤§
i see people in sky beta have like tons of hearts and candles howš®
Is everyone freezing? My sky beta keeps on freezing and kicking me out šš
the beta servers have been jank all week 
Is there something inherently wrong with having a lot of game currency?
i think people just keep farming sc even after they get everything which results in an absurd amount of candles?
i dont know about the hearts though
if people have more than what's considered a sane amount though, very likely to be hackers
Yes, we have had currency reduced fairly recently, plus youāre not supposed to be hoarding them in beta
is that a rule? sorry im still new to beta
Itās not a rule but itās strongly advised not to hoard candles or hearts because we can lose them at any moment.
Since in live version, Day of Rainbow is over so I have a smol question 
Do we have any way to visit the smol floating rainbow island again?
Apparently, I guess we can't fly solo to there cuz I tried so hard flying up and got hit by the reset barrier for like 8 - 10 times 
Maybe thatās better asked in #questions-and-help
i havenāt been past the 8 player door since DoR testing with someone I have piggy with (servers donāt really merge that easily there).
Going past the 8 player door just isnāt common in beta
Hi Iām so sorry for the ping, but do you know what caused the freezing? Is it happening when you try to log in now too?
Were you doing anything with message boats or message candles before the freezing?
I dont knowww, it just freeze and kick me out of the game, is freezez pretty much when i'm on the new map š
they use programs.. it's against the game policy..
Oh okay! So you are able to log in right now, right?
It freezes only when youāre in the new seasonal area?
idk why people would bother hacking in beta, there's nothing to gain from it
yep
I was hoping that this ability to layer some items to mask will also include the possibility of wearing chibi mask mixed with other masks.. aah such a dream, when will it come true 
yess, it would be nice if it got moved to the facial accessory tab
Yes i can login it only freezez in the new area! : )
I love that we can now follow memory candles creators 
Am I the only one that wishes there was an option to disable having people follow your memory candles? I don't use them often, but idk I don't like the idea of random people following my memory candles š we can set social media pages to private, so I think something like that should exist in sky too (and yes I'll send feedback about that)
I donāt really understand the point of the follow option. Why would I want to see specific playersā candles over others, when theyāre all equally annoyingā¦?

i actually agree with you on this I only ever accidentally open them
On top of this since there's no current way for these "content creators" to assign a name for themselves (iirc), what's stopping impersonation via player appearance/what messages they send in memory candles?
Probably for those who enjoy them, given how many we see dotted around I'd assume that a lot of players enjoy them and might wanna keep track of certain players who do cool things
Somehow it feels like it will only create divide: the popular kids vs the not-so-popular. Isnāt that against the whole idea of the game?
Yeah of course the target audience is people that enjoy seeing memory candles, but it almost feels like I'm being punished when I accidentally open one and have to follow more steps to exit now 
Idk how it would though, they don't benefit from having followers as far as I can tell - I guess the only thing would be people who let it go to their heads, but maybe we won't even be able to see our followers numbers so 
Hearts I guess, I think their logic is this is a social game so why not a form of social media in the game? Idk it doesn't work very well it seems bizarre
it's only an extra click added to close them, not overly penalising
do you still get a heart from 50 likes? if so then having many followers would be an advantage for those players
It is when I candle run or am trying to use props or pick up the stuffed animals, it was already annoying having to click the hide button when it was right there on top
having many friends is the same thing though, so I don't see how followers will make that much difference
And so far only shared space items are automatically hidden when using the camera, so you have to go around and manually remove the others
Right right off I go to share my feedback into the void
well it's the only thing that works since that's how devs see our concerns 
idk but having followers who are essentially strangers seems much more distant to me. people with lots of friends have an advantage, that's true, but they still have to befriend players for that
I think I personally just don't like the idea of strangers being able to follow every boat/memory/... that I create :')
just me but
I find the title 'content creator' really consumer oriented and feels wrong for a game like sky
it might just be a placeholder until something else is added in
Right it somehow feels less social and connected š
that's fair, I don't really have an opinion on the new system just yet since we haven't really had a chance to test with it being buggy and yeeting people out the game etc., but I can definitely understand the strangers following thing, but also I feel like there's always been the opportunity for strangers to see whatever we share via memories anyways, so it doesn't feel like a major leap to having followers 
I only see myself as an artist, I've had emails from companies referring to me as an influencer and that already gave me enough physical recoil into the stratosphere 
Good point tbh unless this person has exactly 2 friends their memories will go public anyway
I think I have been seeing rando message boat with no likes recently , so the 3 likes to be public is no longer valid maybe? i dunno
Yeah there's a difference between "social media" in the sense of actual personal socialising-centric connectivity with people and "social media" in the modern sense of content-creating rush for fame, recognition, monetisation and whatnot. Sky feels heavily based on the former concept, leaning into the latter just feels like it'd be harmful to what sky is meant to be. Sky is about socialising on a personal level, this certainly isn't it
The difference between random strangers seeing your candle and strangers actually following you specifically is quite significant, though
There's a chance this may be made for idk... finding ppl who do the things you like or find funny for example, altought... I guess that's what social media is made for, but kinda more implement in game...
Still, lately we got some stuff than are in early development so... who knows
well I'm sure when the new UI needs to be tested, a dev will come in and tell us to poke at it to see what it does
cuz rn it just looks pretty but no clear instructions on what it does
strangers can see them yes, but currently in live, if I see a stranger's message boat, I'll either never see boats from them again, or I just won't know that it's theirs. there's still some anonymity

I think cause there's been a level of anonymity it has felt less burdensome having our stuff go public like that, plus a lot of people rely on memories and boats going public to get hearts from them if they don't have as many active friends, etc.
maybe having the term follower makes it feel less anonymous and more like we're gonna have complete strangers following our every move whenever we share anything that makes it feel uncomfortable rather than the random chances we've had so far with shared spells
?? i thought it is a good thing to get it to be public since no more condition?
If you're social and enjoy going public it's very easy to get 3 friends to heart it, if you're introverted and want privacy now you'll find people following you on boats and memories you only intended for one or two people
if you only intend to show it to one or two people, you will put it on a message boat? I thought usually those people would prefer to talk to one personally?
tbh I've never thrown a message in the wild unless I had guaranteed 3 other friends with me to poke it lmao
I always do it strategically like when doing a group run in trials
for some reason that area is just really good for getting a boat heart 
How you describe this is unintentionally funny but ur right it does feel weirdly invasive and like you're being stalked
I see your points though, I just think maybe tgc are exploring a new avenue for people who do spend time creating content on sky and posting it to social media and they maybe wanna bring that kind of feeling to the game, not to make it feel like oh hey welcome to Sky: Facebook of the Light, but to give those creators space in game to share with fellow players who may not use social media, etc.
I guess we'll see how things develop at least!
Do think there still needs to be a sky-esque name and not just
immersion breaking [behold, thy content creator. dance, monkey dance]
but i dun understand about the concept of following a skyplayer's message boat but never added them? does it mean you will merge more easily with this person?
I guess it's a little on theme to have a form of social media when the season is about cameras and capturing moments, like how the shared spaces were on theme for remembrance. It just doesn't flow so well into the game itself though š
Literal following 
Anyone online willing toso frustrating. Canāt find the 3rd bird. Flew around everywhere. Had a friend guide me too and couldnāt see it. Anyone with a video or pics ?
I think the way it might work is like this (this is my speculation I've never interacted with the boats so idk):
- you can follow that person just like you were to see a friend message in the wild
- so when you see a boat by the same person again, you will know without having friended them because the nickname appears
because the way current shared messages work is you know your friends made it if their names show up, so I think this is how it would work similarly for the 'content creator' you follow
Maybe they want encourage more people to create stuff, and the easy way access is the game itself, otherwise we'll... You need to actually look for the content creator to any social media with a high chances of more common creators be on top rather than any new creator.
Just a guess tho.
From what I've seen from accidently clicking them you can follow anyone in any memory you come across
It hasn't captured the Sky nuance yet, but they could tweak it to be more Sky-aesthetic for sure
ay retro can you turn off pings when replying to my messages please 
there's a thing that shows up on the top right of your chat bar that says [@ ON], hit that to become [@ OFF] and yer good
How š
Oh my discord isn't updated my phone won't go through with that for some reason, I'll just avoid replying to you directly then sorry
with all the updates that the shared memories, spaces and so on are getting ig it makes sense for them to try out new things. i personally feel like game and content creators should stay on different platforms or else it's kinda immersion-breaking. but yeah we haven't seen a lot yet considering how bugged it is. if they do choose to implement it then it really needs a name change because as cy said, it just sounds very consumerist
Tbh I could see myself using the follow system to enjoy musicians more in the wild, I really like seeing people share themselves playing different music and it'd be cool to see more of that and less of the "gimme heart" posts, but there isn't always a guarantee with what anybody posts that it's a consistent thing for them - imagine if you follow something someone posted and then they never share another memory crystal again 
I go on sky to not be reminded of social media don't take me back out there 
Immersion breaking is a good way to describe it it feels a little like breaking the fourth wall having this extremely naturey and ancient game with social media in it
Better I like more a option of hide shared spaces or memories and just enjoy the the scenery 
Kinda wished that since the implement during performance
Hear hear, we need a toggle off button for them
If the āfollowā-prompt goes to Live, there should also be an unfollow button.
On the ācontent creatorsā side there should also be an option to choose who follows u. If you donāt want a specific person following you, you should be given that choice
Omg and that will all fit in that little UI menu?? The more I think about it, the weirder it seems for Sky ngl
that could be a nice use and it's probably what tgc is trying to achieve with this! but as someone said before; if they choose to go with this then there should be some way to "private" your "account", basically making it impossible for strangers to follow you. but toggles like this don't seem to be a thing that happens in this game 
tbh I can understand why the change because like
if I were someone who finds joy in looking at the messages, I would want to keep seeing messages from the same person but can't because it's just constrained to an anonymous person's note ya know
like how would I find them again?
but absolutely needs a private option
There's a gaint list of toggles that could fix every issue players have with the game 
If they have a private option would it also mean 3 likes and your shared spells don't go public?
It would be difficult to implement any other way I would imagine
Fixing the life with toggles seems promising 
if there are still no toggles for accessibility options (like the bloom filter) then there's no way we'll get a privacy option anytime soon š
@/bubba
I'd say the privacy option should just make it so that your notes are "un-followable" while keeping the rest as it is
is the discomfort like
having the message go beyond 3 likes and having even more people follow you for future messages or something
because regardless when you throw the message out there, people will see it if it goes public
Toggle: Children of the Buttons
I guess itās similar to meeting people in servers. If you donāt add them as a friend, you may never see them again.
However: friending people requires mutual consent and the follow the content creator stuff only requires consent from 1 party. - this is where I have problems with
which functions the same way as social media
I can't see how they'd be able to create a private option that would allow boats and stuff to still reach public viewing after 3 likes but not be able to be followed, that's a whole extra fiddly feature added on to the follow feature they've implemented, genuinely I think the only way they could address it would be private = entirely private so friends only seeing your shared content and public being the 3 likes, goes public, everyone can follow option
for me the discomfort would be strangers being able to trace my posts back to me š¤
I mean, we all know the block feature is bogus cuz people we've blocked can still see our medi messages
Make sure to leave feedback guys so they don't take it to live as is!
This stills bugs me to nowadays, like I know the friendship stuff but kinda touches about requiring privacy
I always liked sky for the sense of privacy that it gives you, like how there are no usernames or how chat isn't unlocked automatically (except when friending through qr codes). to me this content creator thing just seems to contradict all that
nah I'm pretty sure it will be implemented
it seems like a long asked for feature, since they also included the ability to scroll through the messages more seamlessly
Jenova sent out a reply on twitter about changing the blocking system soon, something about being gone from the constellation and not seeing the changing in outfits anymore? but the translation didnāt really work properly so I donāt exactly know
Even if we follow someone's posts it doesn't mean we'll know who they are, have access to that person in any way, it would just be their content which again is public anyways since we can see it to follow it, so I just - like I can see both sides to this, but I'm not sure how they'd create a middle ground without letting us just share boats, etc. under a private setting or a public setting
I remember being ecstatic as a moth when I thought you could only communicate in this game with honks
I wish they'd share that info with us here or like idk somewhere more accessible
we'll see what happens if it does change though
i wonder how it'll work for the memorial boats in starlight desert
Ohhh yeah I get your point Bubba! If thereās no āTHIS IS THE PERSON YOU FOLLOWED!!ā-message above their heads when accidents merging with them, I donāt think itāll be that much of a problem
did you play journey too? If not you'll love that game 
That's why journey is a plus +++++
Such a cool teamwork only with honks 
I guess an argument could be no one asked for it? Aside from a handful of people who would like to follow players that do music this idea seems like a ball the park idea that they're trying to implement for the sake of having a feature that follows the theme of the season, otherwise I'd say both sides were pretty happy with how the system on this was before?
ya know what would actually solve all this
if you just get a pop up after you make the thingo that says "do you want your message to be followed by other players" yes or no and you can choose
donezo lol
Ahh I want to so bad once I'm able to afford a PS
help this is such a simple yet good solution š
I mean we don't know for sure how many times something like this was requested, we don't have access to all the data tgc do, so whilst it feels like nobody asked for it aside from maybe content creators, we don't know how many content creators etc. or people who just enjoy seeing certain shared spells asked for something like this in feedback or if it's an idea based purely on tgc development and such. It's an interesting one at least
Yes I'm sure a few people might have given the idea especially content creators who would've liked to gather hearts easier, it just doesn't seem like there's a majority of us keen on it or suggesting it here so I wonder how people will react to it on live 
I think for sake of argument, it is also important to remember that everyone here in the beta community is a very small and very tiny population compared to the live playerbase
there could be so many opinions given that we just don't know about because that's just how vast people's playstyles and preferences are.
much like how the anonymous cape update was added in to protect players privacy.
Right I agree I'm mostly going off people's mutual reactions to it here and stalking #wishlist-and-ideas-archived only to find people asking for more privacy options than this 
true but while beta testers are a small community, their concerns about privacy are just as important as the opinions of other players
beta is an infinitesimal amount of players compared to live, we might be really loud down here talking about our game in our lil chat, but there are millions of live players out there who don't even venture into skycord in general, so it's hard to guess what anybody has been asking for 
Sorry I forgot not to quote you cy 
I think you've blocked me for some reason? I can't emote react to your messages 
YES sorry it was the only way I could remember not to quote you
I still open and react to your messages though!
I think you could instead start your message like @ cy (put a space in between) and I'll know it's addressed to me 
hmmmmmm I think bubba is thinking ooooffffff 
sitting in a box 
WHERE BOX EMOTE WHEN I NEED IT
Actually now that you mention it even though I personally automatically hide memories I accidentally open they're still getting hundreds of likes so maybe we're in the minority here š
Even if beta is smaller still counts has "another opinions" might not be enough for stop something, but ar least make it slightly not overwhelming
That's why the beta feedback is important 
What happens if i follow 10000+ content creator .. my home will be full of with share memory šš
That would actually be so funny
If my props stop disappearing from my shared space spells I will be happy š
depending on how they do this it could turn out okay, that is if they give us the option to now make our notes followable. it's just that i sometimes with they'd prioritize things like the blocking system and accessibility features rather than pushing new shared space & memory updates 
one day we'll get dark transition screens for everything instead of the white flashbangs we still suffer with, alas, here's a new share feature

Also an option to exit them just as easy as before so I'm not fighting for my life collecting those stage flowers 
vault, the most serene quiet darkness of archives
also vault: 


for real though cause when you tryna light the lamps on sea slug carpet friend and they keep honking and blinding you at each one 
dude I run vault every day and a part of me dies inside every time you reach the top of the first elevator and BLINDNESS UPON YOU
personal favourite is also when you start the elevator and it just zoooooooms on the bottom section for no good reason, #justvaultthings
no the real vault thing is when you merge into someone else on the 4th level then the spinning lanterns decide to go WEEEEEEEEE
we need a sky carousel ngl
Has anyone else encountered the bug where following a content creator causes you to lose access to closet icons and the emote menu?
Did they restrict the shared spaces around the cake table? It was the only saving grace of this event
I can't even see how many likes I got 
I really hoped they would restrict the amount of shared spaces / memory candles players could place in the event area. Havenāt tested it yet though
The amount still seems to be pretty big
Okay just tested! (For new ones)
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The shared space spells have a restriction in the whole event area (aside from a little spot on the stage)
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memory candles: small restriction. Still possible on the colour platform & the stage
what do you mean "players privacy" its a model
i keep thinking everyones a moth because of this
because people were harassed for the capes they wore even when unlit?
who told tgc we were burning the cakes with mass fire pot shared spaces 
we would never do that tgc, promise, bring back the shared spaces on the cake table pspsps š¼
I yelled to remove shared space spells around the cupcakes at the stage. Itās me, Iām the perp 
to be equal. If you withhold from lighting players just because they look āmoth / newā, youāre kind of proving the point
What??? Where am I supposed to afk while running in live now??
do what jaws does and get pummelled by wind paths
afking is now illegal, gotta always be on the move, if you stop for a breath the law will catch up š
Pew pew itās the afk police š®āāļø
BETRAYAL /j
sof anti afk stonks smh BETRAYAL /j
Using shared spaces to burn wax more efficiently is simply a creative use of an existing game mechanic š¤
Follow-able notes is scary. I personally often leave messages out of bounds just to let it out of my system, and mostly i know no one will ever find or read it. If it gives people notifications.... hueheuehheu 
NO AFKāING IN MY VICINITY
/j
I guess I can move to prairie caves but now I'm gonna get nothing while I wait for the muffins
and from this day forth sof can never be dragged on CR ever again 
Hahahahahahahahahaa
I say that while being afk 80% of the time š
tgc seeing sky kids creatively farm for wax: that's cool but consider not doing that 
you say that but people still sneak in the very corner of the gramma tree opening to sneak the arson in
they can't stop us
To be fair though, the devs did see us using them at geyser and found it cool, but I can see why they keep nerfing that, I'm salty about it but I get it 
DONT worry I will personally make sure to be at office 24/7 to burn ALL the slices for EVERYONE in sky. Performances purgatory i go
DEVS LOOK AWAY, TODAY YOU'RE JARED 19
Tyty
yeah agree
it's weird that on one hand they support anonymity by removing the cape silhouettes, and then not much later implement this whole following system :') kinda contradicting themselves there
Quick delete the evidence
wdym grandma has shared spaces? it's just cute entrances for the area....
anyway does anyone remember that string of lights prop added in the shared space update during beta testing? i seem to not find it anymore 
the anniversary light fence?
did you mean holy potato arch
bubba have you been putting lights in your mouth
cheeks full and glowing
definitely not
Entirely unrelated but I really light that prop simply because I have an oc who uses it as a whip
it's like the fairy lights on grandma's but a lot longer, it was in the assembly shared space as an exclusive prop that was added just for that but it got removed in a build 
do you have pictures of it?
sadly i couldn't get a picture of it š
wait they gave us the fairy lights and then took them away way back when
that's so sad
It def sounds like the anniversary light string
it was remembrance testing
All I know are the potato lights from anniversary, I don't remember us having access to the fairy lights from grandma's but my brain is a sieve
I'm just imagining seeing you in a corner of the night mode office stuffing your cheeks and like
you become a lantern, guilty as heck
Do you mean a very very vague long string of little light bloom things? I thought that was a bug
you couldn't eat the cement cupcakes so you resorted to potato lights I see how it is
canonically my sky kid has eaten anything that's placed in front of them in this game because everything looks edible
I assumed it was more to prevent people with default capes from being ignored by more veteran players, but that makes sense too.
it was a bit of both 
Then thereās me in beta who ignores everybody because for whatever reason ppl in beta are so nosey and all up in my business when Iām just tryna look at my closet 
Personally that happens to me in live more than beta.
Ppl in beta are aggressive about it too š they will chase me down until I light them like go away, half the time theyāre a hacker anyway šæ
Lighting ppl in beta is a 50/50 between
Itās either a hacker or someone that only adds you to heart trade (which could also have the chance of being a hacker)
bro I had someone light me up the other day just to just use the cry emote like
the heck were you expecting
Most of them if you don't have the "popular outfit" = you're not interesting 
I find a lot of those, and they don't like my style
Any news on sky pc beta?
I havenāt been in beta that long and with fewer players I guess I just havenāt had nearly as many interactions as I have had in Live over more than 2 years
i typically solo play beta like i do live, just in beta im usually just doing my own thing š
beta I report 50x more people for sure though lol
I'd think people are in beta for business usually, so I see everyone just do their own thing. It's easier to go hang out in live
I mainly solo beta since I usually close the app to file a report as soon as I come across a bug which isnāt conducive to group play. Pretty much the only time I play with anyone else is with a friend that Iāve known in Live for over a year. But itās going to be tough to complete the main constellations without a lot of friends to exchange light and hearts with.
the only time I don't solo beta is when I'm like
anyone wanna go get smacked by the red shard together 
I'll solo cr and scr and then I write three pieces of feedback and submit two bug reports 
I play more beta than live, but it's only because most of the friends I had in live stopped playing 
I play more live then beta cuz candle running in live, thatās about it, in beta I usually try to do dailies and the seasonal candles from the realms.
I just donāt got a lot of time on my hands
Havenāt even relived all the spirits from the realms-
But Iām also still new to beta
I might be even in which one I play more
My beta friends became live friends so it just evened out tbh 
Wish I had that luck 
Woah, good luck in the challenge guys.
I'm wondering, in live, will we ever get more umbrellas
Nothing really gets anywhere close to the lightseeker umbrella
This is the first challenge I might actually join 
I'd participate since I have beta but I'm waiting on a controller I purchased to play beta on, so good luck to everyone else. I haven't made it past Prairie yet either, and one of my friends gave me the season pass early. So I'm just sitting here letting it go to waste. Just waiting for 5 more days.
(I hope the controller works, too... otherwise OOF.)
Meh, Iāll join, why not. Iāll think of something I wish someone told me during Shattering. 
Seems like you and AB both joined around Shattering, huh?
Yep!
Interesting 
I actually downloaded the game during TLP but I didnāt realize you had to actually interact with the Isle temple to progress further into the game so I just kinda forgot the game existed until Shattering. š
What a silly goofy mistake that was because I missed my favorite ult (TLP Scarf) 
any cosmetic what now? 


Sagomay jumpscare (SCARY)
Hi TGC devs who are in here! You fell into my trap of telling you: I hope youāre having a good day. 
So like, we use the spell for the shared memory and after done, we record it? 
basically.
Thanks!
You're welcome....... (for what?
)
I was gonna ask about how to record the shared memory and forgot š
ohhhh.... yeah, game recording feature, or device recording apps.. either is fine
so much info,, thank you !!!
I know.. I'm a blunt person and stick to direct words.. lol
<- has the attention span of a goldfish
goldfish are sweet!
< is a fish
Seeing as there is a reward for a cosmetic, does this mean beta is now a safe place to collect things, even encouraged?
can we use the camera in-game to record? like we open the camera and screen record?
yes
(he is smallfry)
(I bite ankles)
goldfish are actually pretty smart tho!
let me check on this..
I am
not that smart š
I love fish.. I just can never keep them alive for very long
Oh so we can choose the in-game recorder, but I can't. It tells me "This feature isn't available for your account."
Do I just need to make more progress in the game or something?
you can use whatever native recording app that is on your device as well
Oh, but yeah I thought that me being unable to use the in-game one was weird...
The in-game one doesnāt work for me so Iāve always just screen recorded. š
Interesting. Could be phone limitations too.
Imagine you could get dream ult as a price from belonging till now
My two dream ults that Iād love to have are off-limits for the challenge (wheeze)
Can I say hello to Leo?
maybe you have to give the app permission to record?
I think I did give permission.
Leo is being a snot, very bitey today, but I will pass along your hellos
I have it set up so that itās allowed to record and has all the permissions granted, it just doesnāt work for some reason. 
Could probably be my phone, itās starting to struggle a bit.
beta is still beta and there may be a need again in the future to reset everyone's account progress, so no, we aren't changing our advice on not trying to collect everything in beta
My phone is about a year old, I think. It could just be my phone honestly saying "I'm too weak for that!"
Maybe mention that in the rules, just to be on the safe side 
can we have a "friend of moths" discord role? š
It's not a rule of the challenge, so mentioning it there doesn't make sense.
My phone when I need it to do a basic task (I got it in 2020-2021): 
Also, is anyone else still experiencing chat lagging? I was trying to talk to a friend this morning but our messages kept lagging or taking a long time to send, wasnāt sure if it was just us or not. Sometimes it works perfectly fine.
I experienced 2-3 minutes chat delays yesterday, the day before it was alright, 3 days ago I had 15 seconds chat delays
Ah, okay. I wasnāt sure if the update fixed that or not.
(Stellify appearance?
)
Chat delay was so bad for us at one point that a message fen sent to someone BEFORE we even met up for scr barely showed up when we were finally in vault 
My message for Olive sending almost 30 minutes after we were trying to break the game for a bug report:
Hahah yes, I and my friend once went through eden and got to orbit before my hi messaged popped up
I heard my honk when I wasnāt touching the screen and I was so confused
Look down and see my message to Olive just sent when we were done running our SCR
I been trying to record a shared memory but the chat just doesn't appear after in the recording 
Chat doesn't appear? Thank you, let me look into that
Ok, yeah, I saw that on my device as well. Chat didn't record with the in game recorder. It did show when I used my phones recording feature.
Oh I got a perfect idea for my memory 
was the days of love boat removed from our closets on purpose or is it a bug
gonna submit a bug report regardless lol
Oh wait I put random letters in the memory name, does it matter? I thought didn't work and was kinda mad 
the cosmetic would be in beta, right?
#beta-announcements Why So Specific of No Deer Mask and Umbrella tho?
Probably because neither were obtainable in beta and you might get reported as a hacker
Or well, deer mask got taken from inventories, but the ult brella was never available
Were they even obtainable to begin with?
wait you tellin me I have the chance to get enchantment tassels in beta too 
A CHANCE
Well, they said invisible capes. I gonna be jealous if I'm not the guy got chosen for it. Well, beta has small userbase anyway.
Also, I can't see any other people's shared memory? Bugged?
Actually I have enchantment tassels in live,
dang the only other ult I wouldāve really wanted would be deer mask LOL, I guess Iāll go for turban 
Oh a beta challenge
this sounds fun
Seems like it, yeah. Bugs involving memory candles and shared spaces were there since last build.
I tested this out and you can have your friend join your memory candle with you, but even after they canāt see the candle itself. Bug reports all the way!
The problem is I have almost all cosmetics that i would want in beta. 
Owl hair could be mine? 
Ooh a beta challenge 
plot twist: Skybot takes over the world! Muahahaha! 
same thing you do every night, skybot?
That delicious krill ult cape its calling me
Krill Cape Ult beloved
What does the IP stand for as in Contracted IP? Individual purchases? Sorry for asking but Iām just not familiar with this acronym and Iām trying to understand the rules of the contest. 
Intellectual property, like The Little Prince, Aurora, Kizuna Ai
Basically any collaborative items
Oh thank you.
We would have to have nitro in order to submit videos, right? 
No? You can send videos without nitro
Oh? It never works for me, but thanks, Iāll give it a shot 
I believe since the server is boosted you shouldnāt have to worry about file size either (unless it exceeds 100mb in size)
The memories are only 30 seconds long so I think youāll be fine.
even if it wasn't, the nitroless file size limit is 25 mb 
Oh they increased the limit??
I had no idea
The Only Good discord change /j
if we win we can have almost any item, huh?
how am i supposed to pick 
Grab one out of a bag at random 
My chance to get invisible cape for almost no work??? Please god lemme win

my first thought was the lightseekers umbrella or one of its variants but those are illegal
maybe the original dundun? 
Idk what I would aks if I win so invisible cape it is! But that's if I win which is a big if
Slam the dundun hard enough so that we get more red shards so I donāt have to do Eden in Beta 
Penguin mask

i can't wait to see all 10 winners go for either
or 
personally, i believe in
supremacy
Assembly pot is just so goofy 
waiting for that madlad that will request the yellow moth cape
thanks for the idea
i think i've figured it out
i'm going to ask for a second bat mask
"hello tgc i would like to have
"
yo bat, i heard you like bat masks
bat mask..... 2?!?!?!! 
if I win Iāll probably ask for invisible cape, Iām not grinding for that, this might be my only chance 
(slaps a bat onto squeaks head) bat squared
oh squeak can i send you a link which is entirely off topic but features bats?
wait that would actually be THREE bat masks
i forgot to count the one on my live account
if i were to enter and win i'd ask for the flight ultimate pants....they r so gender..
Enchantment pendant ftw!!!!!!!!!
Don't forget about bonfire š„
i think it'd be really funny if they let me have the journey pass
no cause the Journey mask is stuck on my face in Live I canāt take it off š
i'm imagining what chaos would unfold if a challenge like this happened on live
we only ever get candle packs or iaps over there
bat mask
bat mask: the squeakquel
bat mask: squeakwrecked
I can't decide between prophecy ult mask or invisible cape 
jokes aside all the items that i want that aren't already on my beta account are illegal
i'll join the contest for fun and decide what i'll get if i win
The two things I want are also illegal for the challenge rules š (TLP Scarf and Grat Mask are safe from my death grip for now)
For Now. 
No one asked about nintendo 
Iām pretty sure those are also unavailable.
That's probably off limits too, it's an ip
Then bonfire is best option
(my friends are in the background weeping over me having eaten their scarfs)
yall should read the #beta-memorychallenge first, lots of cool info there
I donāt really want stuff that I have on my live account already, and not stuff that I can get in future at some point, even if itās 20 years from now 
And well yeah, AURORA stuff is IP contracted
would have snagged her jellyfish hair then 
There is also one more thing that no one had idea: 1st sky anniversary hat
i think it'd be funny to get the gratitude pendant
I donāt want to pick a cosmetic because of itās rarity, I want a cosmetic because I like it, so not picking that little party hat
TGC wondering where their single copy of the Deer mask went:
Me having shoved it in my mouth:
i think they should let you have it but remove the deer mask in the performance area 
whoās going to ask for the singular marshmallow stick
someoneās gotta do it
Anniversary party is so goofy I love it
hey yall how would i fit multiple chay messages into one shared memory
I would but i already have it 
have the first message already typed out before you start recording, then have the second copied so you can paste it in
if you're on android you can have more than one thing on your clipboard at once but i don't think shared memories are long enough to read more than 2 messages 
Ooh I don't think I'll be able to record a video but I think I'd ask for the second anniversary hat if I could. I've been sad I couldn't get it in live since mothhood. ^_^;
I just learned that the blue masks for ender masks and the blue glasses are going away and also the goggles the goggles I'm not worried about but the other masks I am because those blue masks are going to be gone and how random things like the antlers and earrings and headphones are going to be mask accessories so they won't pair with each other or with glasses does anyone one else share a concern for this
THERES THIS PERSON IN HOME THAT I KEEP MERGING SERVEFS WITH AND TJEY WANNA LIGJT MEDucjsjJSjk im TRYING to do the shared memory challenge
the nature sunglasses aren't being deleted and the eye parts of the elder masks might not either
also beta players have been very concerned about how to categorize accessories, see #beta-screenshots-videos for a bunch of different ideas players have had to preserve as many cosmetic combinations as possible
Thank u thank you
im ngl im probably not winning the contest (havent won once in the weekly poll, been here for 3 years) but It Was Fun so
favorite part was finding a paste keyboard app so i could do it all
Same, I had fun making my video and am not counting on winning but if I do Iām choosing the invisible cape because Iāll never save up 999 hearts
I was wondering how am I going to do all texting that Iāve planned and I got my answer right here thanks
Which app do yāall use to record the screen on iOS? 
iOS has native screen recording, you can enable it for control center (the menu you pull from the top) in your settings 
This! I googled how to do it and found a youtube tutorial about it after I realized that the video I took using Skyās screen recording left out the text portion of my shared memory. Super easy and automatically saves to photos.
Some of the biggest FAQs from QnH if anyone doesn't know what to use for their memory tips.
- chevrons and cr
- how to earn hearts
- Eden, ac and statues
- how to get cosmetics
- what are TS and when do they appear
- navigating friend and spirit constellation at home
- the difference between regular, seasonal and daily spirits
- how to avoid krills
U forgot something: Shard events /jk
Good luck trying to explain those with just a memory candle
āGood luck!ā
But yeah, these should be tackled since most if not all of them are barely explained in game. We get asked about them so much in qnh
"Oh you want all 6wl from shard memories? Have fun waiting several months"
I did one on how to avoid krills! Someone else did too. 
"Just git gud"
Perfect
āskill issueā
Youād think a wholesome non-combat game like Sky would be exempt from the āgit goodā thing
looks at red shards
Skill issue if you can't do red shard alone 
I can't
I can!!
(while cursing under my breath)
I can do some of them alone
tbh the sad part sometimes is even if you can solo it, you run out of time or didnāt get all the fragments so you end up with less than the full reward and every time that happens a part of me cries inside 
Meanwhile there's not those buffed version of crabs I'm kinda fine but my potato phone sometimes betrays me and ended losing WL 
I've seriously done Elevated Clearing and Sanctuary Islands red shards before alone, it was definitely... an experience. I have nearly shattered my Elder Mask quite a few times there but at least the Elder Mask itself offers a hidden buff besides just shielding you from attacks. I don't see anybody pointing it out that any attack from a Dark Dragon or Crab that would cause your Elder Mask to shatter would not cause you to recoil or fall on your back.
I noticed that too, that's why I always have it equipped when doing red shards (except in Beta cuz I don't have any
)
I will spend ungodly amount of time just to lure all the red crabs out of the way, since i have no recharge prop lol 
Depending on where you're at, you can use the environment to recharge too. Places like Hermit Valley and Jellyfish Cove have clouds you can recharge on.
At what point of progress can a new player view Shared Memories? Or are they visible from the start?
Most of the things gets unlocked at forest or valley of triumph, so maybe after any of those...?
Tbh I'm not sure 
Yeah, I have no idea, since they didnāt exist when I had a new account. The answer, though, kind of determines the content one would decide to include in a Shared Memory designed to help a new player.
I think moths can see them in prairie social 
Nice. I hope that gets confirmed. I always chuckled when I saw messages and memories welcoming new players at the start of Isle, because I donāt think they can see them. 
yeah pretty sure isle would be desolate until the player returned later because it's meant to be the tutorial zone
Yep. Makes sense. Would be yucky to be greeted with that kind of visual clutter when seeing Sky for the very first time.
I do like the appearance of shared memories now being a small diamond, it's much prettier to look at than the white candles littered everywhere before
Still trying to figure out how to word my advice
I keep rambling and making it too long. My power went out tho so I can't even make the shared memory any time soon 
was there an update today?
Hello Sky players
! I'm not from the beta, but can I ask something?
How is the community handling the emotes block during camera of this new season?
it's a bug! confirmed by devs
Oh gosh! what a relief, thank you so much 
no problem! hope you can enjoy the best experience with it when the camera goes to the live game!
my advice is short and sweet! don't overload em cuz otherwise it might feel like "oh no I have to read an essay to understand this game aaaaaaa"
YEAH that's what I'm trying to avoid too... I just keep re-writing my advice and shortening it every time JAKSJSKS I'm glad the challenge lasts for a while
I didn't even pre-write anything other than the first line
just treated it like if I was gonna tell someone real quick
also because I don't want someone to have to keep rewatching my memory to understand my point since the time limit is so short
especially since the one I made was in hidden forest so like
you really don't want to wait around in the rain innit
i was the complete opposite where i scripted everything and did multiple retakes just to make sure everything was correct
mine was very very long i dont think anyone can read it in time
YEAH SJSKSJ mine is more just along the lines of... taking your time and slowing down to enjoy the game. I'm writing it as if it was advice to myself when I was new
I always pre write stuff for shared memories because I take so long to type
that's likely why I keep rambling akskjsks
I didn't pre-write anything I was like YOLO
cuz I'm pretty sure the recording pauses now when you type in new stuff so
I also think about it like
like if I were gonna talk to a shared memory person, if they are rapidfire spitting information at me that's overwhelming
WAIT FR???? That's literally the best thing to happen to me I always am rushing if I make shared memories and I have something to say
DOES IT??? i just kept tabbing into discord and tried to copy and paste really fast
wish i knew that beforehand
Also same, I'm always meticulous about my shared memories akdbkdjs it takes me so long just because I do a lot of retakes. Also doesn't help if ppl merge w you a lot akksns
the worst feeling
I only did one retake 
I Wish that were me 
it would help if shared memories were longer, i remember there being a survey about that a while ago. would make it easier for people to read messages or musicians to record their tunes
How long are they? I never use them, lol.
30 seconds I think?
if you look at all the entries in the challenge channel, they're roughly 30 seconds each yeah
I'm watching mine back and even though the memory cut off at the end my emote, YOU COULD STILL HEAR THE FINAL TUNE OF THE NOD LET'S GOOOO 
wait so is the 4th anniversary just unhinged now?
Realizing that I could fulfil moth me's wishes and get my beta kid the enchantment tassels. I'll never have them in live, so.. hmm. I might enter...
I've been playing since enchantment but didn't buy the pass. š lol
it's a weird conundrum for me because if I want anything, I'd rather have it on my live skid than beta and I already have almost everything in live and am very content 
Oh for sure. . Hmm . The rhythm ult mask is also one I'm considering should i win. I love how sleek it is.
honestly lowkey tempted to just get invis cape so I don't need to put in the work for it LOL
but also....anubis....... I'd probs just get that
Wait weāre getting ults as gifts for winning the challenge? 
we can! except the grat and lightseeker ones
any cosmetic of your choice, with some restrictions
well it's a very generous pool of 10 winners so
I think long as you tried your best it's gucci
I thought they were talking about what to WEAR during the recording and skipped that part š
Reward:
Your choice of almost any cosmetic. Exceptions are cosmetics associated with a contracted IP, NetEase exclusives, the Season of Gratitudeās Deer mask, and Lightseeker Seasonās Ultimate Umbrella.
(Yes, you can choose the invisible cape.)
Edit: Also excluded is the Beta cape (white inner lining)
I can try harder š¤
Does anyone know when days of music is yet? Or do we have to wait
that's a live event and has nothing to do with beta anymore
it begins july 3rd or sth
Exactly, I didnāt see the word reward and thought weāre not allowed to wear those š¤£š¤£
Oh
So how many of are buying the season pass for the ults? We obviously have more to see but who had decided already?
Tbh this is the first season I look more for the spirits cosmetics rather than the Ults 
I'm buying it for all of the seasonal cosmetics. Not just the ults
i love everything
meh abt the ults so far, they look like regular items to me. love a lot of the cosmetics tho
The beta can be tied to steam. Whatās the effect?
me for the past couple seasons tbh, there's usually a couple pass locked items or something from every spirit that I really like
mhm, wasn't really a fan of the ults for the past few seasons
loved the shattering ults but sadly missed it š
the rem ult sash has actually become one of my favourites! I love pairing it with capes randomly to give them extra spice
ahhh remembrance ults were an exception yeah
mantas are so useful for soloing shards + the sash goes super well with capes like pleaful parent
the only season I didn't really care for the ults was passage and that's it really
every other season I have the ults of has had some use at some point in my closet
for the seasons i was in,
aurora had nice ults but personally wasn't my style
remembrance has lovely ults that arent over the top
passage is alright but i was disappointed how they didn't polish the masks and make them look less flesh-y
my main reason for buying passage pass was the white neck fur and rolling emote level 4 (and tusk thingies too ig)
my passage pass takeaways was naruto hair
and weirdly although I didn't care for the fabric earrings to begin with, I found a good combo for it and now it's pretty dope
Purple earrings replaced my desire for the ult tassels, and now i absolutely love the earrings so much 
Honestly what made me want the pass was the ult cape, cause I wear the dreams mask with the muralist bunny pants in live, and shockingly enough, the ult cape has the perfect color for those pants 
Do the new cameras record video too, or do they only take photos?
Just photos so far (afaik)
I don't see any record function in it
I have a bit of questions about the new event
Do we have to use shared memory or just video recording?
both!
- create a shared memory
- then record your screen to show that memory for submission
Oh ok. No editing app watermark right?
I don't think that really matters tbh
rules state just don't add any decorative or musical elements to the video, which I assume would be like if you did some fancy transition video editing or external music
Guys is it just me or I can't enter beta rn??
How are we supposed to make a shared memory for contest when chat delay is so bad rn š
Surprisingly it showed up without problems when recording the memory!
Didn't for me š„ it's taking 1 min to show anything so I can't do emotes and stuff timed right.
Have to like send chat then wait and hope I record right for my chats to send when I'm recording bc if I send when recording they just don't show up in enough time before the record time ends...
we still have like 10 days or something to submit entries so maybe chat delay will be fixed by then 
in the meantime, good to ominously send bug reports about it
Bug report recording attached.
Staring into camera wordlessly for a minute
"There is chat delay."
End of video
the beta experience 
at this point there needs to be a beta song that just documents the weirdness that happens
Sky Beta bugs wiki
it should just be a parody of āWe Didnāt Start the Fireā and it just lists beta bugs 
that
that somehow has irony to it with the actual servers being on fire
Is server being wacky again? I'm hanging around the cake in office and I just see how the IU for shared memories or spaces appears and dissapears, kinda creepy ngl 
Hello beta chat Iām here again to yell - is else completely unable to log in?
Specifically after placing a message boat or memory candle. My friend is in server error purgatory and hasnāt been able to log in at all for 3 days after placing a message boat
ah yep, there we go, message delay while Iām trying to do the memory challenge 
Vault elevator broken?
Feels like they force us to make a stress test for shared memories and they cant stand much 
It has been broken for a while on live too - can't press ā¶ļø to skip white cutscene and starts to elevate slower since removal of the home shrine 
Oh ok. Thankchu cy
Tbh i like this challenge cause I'm trying to study game design so this might be good lesson on how to do tutorial design maybe
Also, just wanted to know, are the map teleporting spells scrapped or are they still here?
map teleporting spells?? I've never heard of that
I saw a beta video somewhere. It was around 2021 or 2020 maybe. They said there was new map teleporting spell or something. They had corresponding realm constellation icons
I think the video was from Noob mode. Idk
well if it's been so long ago I doubt it's still in testing or the game then if it's not known
Kinda feels weird to invest in beta when it can just be gone without compensation
so I donāt get why theyāre making an event in beta š
that's why we can have ults as a reward
just take it why not
things that can only happen in beta because it's beta and nothing is permanent, it's pretty fun!
It's not weird at all
In beta we get a privilege of testing and early preview but it's a big mistake to confuse it with live gameplay or to take it as an alternative
Haha I guess thatās true, Iāve been in beta since sanctuary and they made exception to most of the ults I missed so maybe thatās why I donāt get it
they did a stress test a while back that sent out the red netease flower + sanctuary ult cape for inventory iirc
It would be cool to be able to teleport to any place to any realm using such spells. Since now we have map shrines as well
I will probably post a idea in the whistlist channel
it was also from a time before wind paths existed
the introduction of that place has helped a ton for getting to seasonal realms much easier
I had actually hoped the map shrines would be able to teleport us to a general hub location in an area
Is sky beta will be on pc in future?
Itās only weird to me because they are giving out things as if we can keep them through an event thatās hosted not really based on testing? I know what beta is for thatās why I didnāt invest, I only play to test haha
Pc is free just like mobile or Android so there's a possibility. But no one knows about it. It's on TGC's hands
well, they completely redid the UI for shared memories so they probably want to actually test something internally through that
but instead of just telling us "hey guys can you make shared memories we wanna see something" it's more fun to present it as a challenge
That place did help a lot. But the bugs kinda freaked out peopleš
because in the end we are contributing our time to test for free, so why not have a bit of fun now and again so testers feel rewarded for efforts ya know
Ohhhhh okay itās clear I havenāt been in Live Vault in a while
. In beta I just canāt get the elevator to go up at all
Well it seems they don't plan a full full wipe in the nearby future it seems, and the winner can enjoy it for a long time. It's perfectly clear for me 
honestly even if they wipe my beta inventory my live game is still there with a much bigger closet so I have nothing to lose 
I'll be sad but that's how it is
Fortunately we had only currency wipes and some specific update related beta item wipes recently
I'm pretty sure those spells were in beta just to test the teleportation feature on the STAR pins that they were introducing. They take you to the elder temple of the realm
I can't participate in the challenge because my chat is completely delayed. I can't convey messages on memory spells š
if it doesn't get fixed until the deadline then maybe you could try to make an all-emote shared memory!
I think the challenge is a way to get beta testers to test the new shared memory functionality. I already found and reported a š in mine.
same
it's not showing up on my screen
Sorry for the late ping, but I think youāre probably talking about the STAR spells we tested. Pins from thatskyshop have a special ability tied to them, and some of those are teleportsā for example the Valley elders pin teleports you to the Valley cutscene temple area, and the forgotten ark pin teleports you to the forgotten ark.
These were available in Beta as spells for testing purposes, but if you want to use them in Live you need to purchase the respective pin. Unless they implement a new feature in the future 
Edit: Also just noticed someone already mentioned this

Oh ok. So a possible teleporting using map shrine option won't be available
I mean, no one can know that for sure but TGC. You can always submit it as feedback 
Ok. Thankchu for the help Miri

There are many things about Sky today that I thought would never happen, but we have them now. I donāt think more options for teleporting is completely out of the picture
Maybe i should thank them properly
when we can someday have a shortcut straight to wasteland end.....man that would be so good
Rip the battlefield black shard it's just too far away
Thankchu Sargent

I will add it to the wishlist channel then. Thankchu again miri

imagine if we just get a straight teleport to vault summit LOL
COME ON SOLDIER DONāT LET THE STICK LEGS AFFECT YOU

usual vault: elevator music intensifies
vault summit teleport: NO MORE ELEVATORS
BEGONE WITH THEM
Dream come true. And a pain for those who won't be able to open the 4 player doors
everyone during vault summit medi day:
Is it fair to assume that new players will even know to look at these memory candles we're placing? (Are they visible when someone starts the game, even?)
Iām gonna be real Iāve never paid attention to when we got to look at memory candles.
I generally ignore them or hide them as soon as possible, because I find them to be litter more than anything
But I don't know how a new player perceives them
I donāt ever remember even interacting with a memory candle until my first time alone in GW and that was an accidental click after I fell out of Vortex. 
tbh I never bother unless I need a recharge
those are so helpful
i find the shared memories to be insanely annoying and clutter-y
i usually try to hide them as fast as possible
but with the new ui it's more difficult to hide them quickly
I just treat them as visual noise tbh
and as I said before, the new appearance is a lot prettier, the cute little diamonds
shared spaces however, that just looks weird
but I get it
Light pollution
I wonder if you can put mhared memories in midair standing on a prop
I believe you can
Howw's it going? 
Well, the servers aren't on fire
As good as it gets I suppose
Sjdhdjdjd... The message delay makes it really hard to record a memoryš„ŗ
Yep.. I hope it gets fixed before the deadline because I honestly don't know how I'd make a useful shared memory without text š it doesn't help that I don't have a lot of emotes yet on beta lol
It sent the message I was trying for memory challenge approx 30 min late
. I even closed the game in between! What's happening lol

I actually had an idea to do my memory candle without text but I still prefer being able to actually have text with my memory so I'll wait and see if it gets fixed on time or not 
Beta chat not working š„ŗ I can't record video 
I have reported the chat delay to the team. As soon as we know more, I will let you know.
A long time ago when beta applications were available I signed up as soon as I saw it
The application said I had gotten into the program but the beta app on the appstore is full and I can't use it.
Were the applications buggy and told me I had gotten in when I really hadn't? I probably missed my chance but I'd like to know further if possible.
If you are on ios and weren't really active then you might have been removed as beta tester! IOS only allows certain amount of testers so devs actively remove inactive players to accomodate for new testers. You'll need to wait for next invite wave sadly
I'm on android :,)
But thank you for telling me! Hopefully I'm early enough to join next time :D
Also just a small bit of info, I even tried to do it at the time I signed up and it still wouldn't let me in :(
Go to this link-> https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.tgc.sky.android.test.gold
See if it says "you're a tester".
Make sure you're logged in with same gmail account you used to sign up as a tester
Oof !! I can't use my Google account to play Sky, so I use my Nintendo account instead, but I did check and it said I was already a tester, I would assume Nintendo Log-In method isn't valid for beta? (I haven't been able to use my Google play account for any games for some unknown reason that I can't fix past my knowledge.)
Afaik, only Facebook doesn't work beta, but if it says you're a tester you should be able to download it from playstore. Make sure you're logged in with same account in playstore too that you used to sign up as a tester, any other account will show "beta is full".
the beta is linked to the google email you used through the play store. It won't work with just a nintendo account login as we don't have a beta for the nintendo.
Can you not login to the google account in your device settings?
not saying that youre wrong, just to get the download started and installed, the google account is needed
I can see.
My gmail/google account is perfectly usable on any other thing I've inputted it in except for apps that allow google play accounts
It should be the same on the application and the appstore as far as it looks.
I'm confused, are you not able to download the game or not able to login into the game?
Honestly
Call me stupid, I don't care but it might be because I don't have the app downloaded
But if i didn't have it downloaded at any point then why would my email still be an available option for Google play? Does it take any email and just gp-ify it?
Might be useful ngl
I thought I did have it downloaded then realized it never was
The email you used to sign up as a tester must be logged into Google Playstore, it's a requirement, any other gmail will show it's full
They are, I just haven't been able to use my Gmail account on the actual sky app until now, possibly.
Once you download the game, you can use other login methods to sign into sky! But to download you need the same gmail account! Idk how else to tell
jonah, you mention the actual SKy app, and I need to remind you that beta and live are 2 separate apps.
so if you were expecting beta app, through the live app, that is part of the confusion. You need to download the beta app using the gmail account.
I know that they are different apps, I can't download the beta app, because it's full.
My appstore account and the application both used the same Gmail as far as I know
you mentioned above that when you went to the link, it said you were already a tester, correct? If so, that means you just need to download.
I'm still trying to log in to my Sky using Google Play, because like I said before, it doesn't let me, I cleared the data and the cache, so I'll try again.
Also yes, it did say I'm a tester, but I can't download it regardless.
If you've more than one gmail in your mobile device, I'd probably suggest you to temporarily remove all other accounts from your device except the one you used for tester sign up, clear cache of Google Play, then open playstore and search"sky beta" . See if it works
I saw someome pointed out that in our current version, once I block someone, that person won't be able to find me on their constellation anymore.
Saw it from here -> https://fb.watch/lckP0ChAvC/
Like normally, if I block people, they would see me go inactive, but I still exist on their constellation, Now I will be disappeared from their's till I unblock them.
Supposing I were to block people for example, 1 week of me-time, and they find out that I blocked them. Does this seems a bit too brutal just to have some alone time? Having just 1 hour of not disturbing spell wasn't enough for me unfortunately.
I prefer that blocking people should go sneaky like it already was 
This hasnt been mentioned in patch note so I hope this is a bug. For now I'll be sure to report it to the team.
I think Jenova sent out a tweet a while back that there will be some changes to the blocking system, but indeed: nothing of it has been mentioned in the patch notes so itās safe to assume itās a bug for now.
I do wonder if the blocked person is able to see their friend in the constellation again after the friend unblocks them
To be honest, I've always felt a bit uncomfortable knowing that if I block someone, they can still see my shared memories, boats etc. It feels very unnatural to me, because when you block someone on social media, they often won't even be able to find your page anymore let alone see and like your posts. I wonder if this changes too if people can no longer see you on their constellation when you block them.
That said as an introvert, I am definitely guilty of blocking people too for some me time (yes even with the dnd spell which is close to useless to me). I usually unblock friends when I log off though, quickly light them and instantly leave so they don't have a chance to join me š
That explains why I can't see a friend of mine. Their star disappeared completely. It came back for a while and I saw them online. After that it disappeared again. I guess they blocked me. So yes, if you unblock someone your star reappears. If you block someone, your star disappears.
This like "from now on, you shall have your free time alone at a cost of more guilt" 
I think the 'temporarily blocking someone to have some alone time' is pretty common among Sky players, and if the blocking system is changed I think it would benefit the other side of the medal too, because blocking will be taken more seriously.
The DND spells are just there to use, and even though it still feels a bit weird to me to use them, I don't think any friend would think weirdly of you needing some alone time. I guess we just gotta be a little more daring about that, if we don't want to straight up say it
Yeah I can't block people anymore just to have a peace of mind? I don't trust all the random people I've added to not ignore the DND message tbh so please just let me temporarily block people without feeling even worse about it š I hate blocking my friends but that's the only option I have in this game where you're expected to be social every second you spend on it
Butttttt for now it's just a bug!!! We don't know if it'll be implemented
Sound like they got option for temporary unfriend at least
I'm really in the middle about this. From the 'other side' i'd much rather have my friends using a dnd spell instead of blocking me, you know? Even though i understand (and i did that too).
Sometimes solo running is needed, and if you have good friends they understand that too
In worst case, if that were to be an actual thing in live
Get ready to be a villian, folks 
just got intentionally blocked by a friend, the things mentioned above are true
- they completely disappear from your constellation
- and so do their shared memories
dont headpat me, this is a controlled testing environment >:0
Or just (to put it very blunt) get out of your head and communicate with your friends / use a DND spell.
I mean this for a more global population by the way, i understand that blocking someone can be a less confronting, especially if you suffer from anxiety or any other mental heath related factors
aaaaa the shared memory thing is great!! (hahaha, no message boat testing
)
I'm glad shared memories disappear in case I need to block someone who made me feel uncomfortable. But when blocking friends for some alone time it sucks big time š just wish the DND spell would have been more useful.. I already left feedback about it a while ago but it doesn't seem likely that tgc is willing to change it
I think having the option to turn joins off is a better way to be alone. Like that you don't need to block a friend and they won't be able to join you so you'll be able to spend time alone without feeling guilty. Too bad there's no such feature. Maybe I should write a feedback about this. š¤ (even though no one joins me in the first place
)
Yeah I think I asked for the DND spell to actually disable the option to join someone. It's been a while so I don't remember what I suggested exactly š I guess it doesn't hurt to suggest it again..
I also understand why there isn't an 'offline mode' because that goes against Sky's social aspect
Cant even think of why would it be reasonable to make dnd spell only last for 5 mins at first š
But wouldn't blocking your friends for some me time go against the social aspect too? We basically create our own offline mode by doing that 
@untold blade does your app look like this? It should also say you're a tester like this pic shows.
@untold blade that pic is what you need to download from the play store. Sign in to Google play using the Google account you signed up for beta with then download this app.
I did
You have the app downloaded now?
My appstore has the same gmail I used to sign up for beta, yet I can't download it.
Try searching for sky beta? Can you find the app in the play store?
I can, but the program is full so I can't download it, did you read the full thing?
Then you aren't in the program on that google account.
I am in the program.
at least, I should be, far as I've looked into it I am indeed part of the beta program, I just can't download beta as a game.
make sure you have enough storage space to download the game
it says the beta game is full
even if I did have enough space I can't download it regardless
hopefully you can get in next time~ 
I guess I just wait the time out to play.
When you go to the testing link it says you are a tester? Have you tried to go to the link? Maybe it just needs to communicate with the play store again? Google does weird stuff.
Someone please remind me because the line kinda became blur for me playing live and beta back and forth but the sequencer is not available as a spell in live yet, right? Because I just saw someone using it in live
no it is not available other than in the music hall i believe
So anyone having issues placing shared memories when saving the title? Especially when replacing another memory it's so random if it does it not!
Ah, so likely illegal access then. Thanks
hey all... are we still experiencing chat delays??
no more chat delay as far as i can see!!!
Seems to be working fine now!!
thank you!
I've heard a rumour that mods don't know what sneep snorp is because they're always here 
that happened to me yesterday the messages i was sending to a friend i made wouldn't go through till an hour later when i was alone 
time to spend 10 min finding that one emote you cant seem to find..
these interactive performances are actually pretty fun- i liked following the orby around doing emotes 
man do we need to record for the beta memory thing because i can't record on my phone
Nope!
i believe entering is optional
i know that
you can use your phones own screen recorder function -edit for spelling
it doesn't have one 
what device are you using?
samsung a30
even with the ingame recording it doesn't work
https://www.samsung.com/au/support/mobile-devices/using-screen-recorder/ this manual might help you find the function
the option is not available, thats why i asked if its necessary to post a video, or if there's another way i could enter 
you could get a screen recorder app too. or have a friend record your memory for you? idk if that counts
ill try the friend then, trust me i have tried with an app for years, never worked in my device :')
Hey! I also have a Samsung, do you have this built in app called "Game Booster"? It helps me record my screen when I'm in the game
i have one called game launcher? dont know if its the same
Yeah
Okay so if you open the game it should activate, you can find it if you open the notification bar
If you press on it, a pop up menu will show up, just press record
????? YOURE A LIFE SAVER??
ain't no way this worked š thank u
I'm glad I could help!! Now you can record all the bugs š 
Also apparently (I just figured it now
) you can make it only record in game audio! Open game launcher, go to "more", choose "game booster", turn off the "use microphone when recording"
luna coming in cluch!
sorry I'm a bit late but if you have an updated samsung there should be a screen recording feature on the top of your phone settings! sometimes you have to equip it to see it there but you can check if you have this feature by searching up screen record on your samsungs settings
nvm you already mentioned the notification bar I thought you were talking about accessing it through game launcher 
happy gasp I just saw memory records can now show props you've placed as well 
Am I the only one who feels the new UI of the shared memoryās/spaces/boats r a little buggy??
just me..?
Does anyone know where the returning spirits are in the new season?š
Okay thanks!
Maybe the journey honk will be an accessory we can finally sperate from the mask
so we can have the honk with other masks
That would be amazing, I do like the journey mask but I don't wanna wear it all the time. If I could use the call regardles of what mask I'm wearing I'd never change my call ever again 
I'm not exactly sure what to do for the second quest. I take a picture of the creature and then what?
Any new change in beta?
this is outdated, they changed the places for 3 of the spirits
Hiking Grouch is in Troupe Greeter's Spot while Troupe Greeter is in Crab Walker's Spot and Crab Walker is now on Hiking Grouch's Places
now say that 5 times fast
were the animations exactly the same, just with the spirits swapped? (pretty sure the visit is over, so cant really check much) 
I definitely saw old Grouch doing pull-ups šŖ
Hello beta chat
exactly the same!! š«¶
I know the memory contest is probably to make us test the shared memories more, but I really love the idea and hope we have more beta events like this in the future. This one is so creative and more fun to me than a screenshot challenge. It feels like a helping challenge rather than just self-benefit 
I keep crashing too while swimming to take the second picture of the light creature
will u agree if hermit bearhug's pant has shoes on and the shoes will be separated in the next season update
Hi i got a question, if those ts on mountains are a part of days of music or its a another event
Days of music has gone in beta. Currently it's the sky anniversary event. I'm not sure by ts on the mountains since I haven't checked for a bit but I know there's one seasonal spirit on the mountain top
Oh , I'm not beta user but thought beta users might know
Hello, how do I install sky beta on ios? (already a beta tester on android)
Iām under the assumption theyāll be a Group TS visit at some point during Moments.
Oh, thanks
Wait for the invite links to drop and snag one up for IOS. #beta-signup-info
Oh ok, thanks
I'm sure Live would love a challenge like this too...but can imagine how littered the realms would get beyond usual
I feel like it also works best for beta since we have a smaller pool of players, so there would be less videos to look through
also.....people would clamour for that reward 
like usually if something like that happened for live, the last time anything video related was done it was just an RNG winner for people playing music sheets iirc?
While I'm here wanting to just participate except I'm overthinking if I accidentally broke the music restriction edit part 
Also the music sheet contest was fun

Question for Android users: what app do you use to screen record the game? I saw the update about the memory challenge, but I know that the record feature in the game doesn't work for us, so what do you guys use?
The built in screen record in my phone (currently using redmi note 12). Some phones have its built in recording being triggered by holding power button and volume up at the same time, but won't work for all.
You should be able to search "screen record" in your settings. Or at least be on Display or Accessibility
Thank you @vital crystal š. I didn't think to check if my phone has a built in screen recorder. I have a pixel and just found it
Found your bug reports and apparently you can quickly enable screen record by swiping your screen from top to bottom? That's so much easier! Also ya welcom <3
if your android phone doesn't have a built-in screen recorder, i use kimcy929's from the google play store
i mostly use it since you can make it so you can access it from the swipedown menu instead of being a floating button
Oooo seems like the violin sounds less ānails on chalkboardā now with āfaster notesā š nice
Can anyone tell me where the 2nd bird is? No matter where I go itās just further away
Why in the name of megabird did the thought of comments on shared memories get in my mind
i was thinking more on having the ability to see the chat log in that memory in case it ends too early instead of replaying it from the start š§
Hummmm Hewo! Is anyone else having issues meditating?
Yes! You need to cancel the middle note, it's a bug
Boop
Hey guys I have a question regarding the new feature in the closet where you can separate the sunglasses, elder shields (and many other accessories) from the actual masks
I mainly got an elder mask because I loved how the eyes on the mask looked, will that be permanently gone? Or with the blue days of nature sunglasses, I enjoyed how the mask behind it was also darker, I can't see both of these masks in the closet
So I wanted to ask if these two things will be entirely removed? Or will the mask from elder shields and sunglasses be separate? I have these in my live account as well and I fear Ill lose both (except the shield and the sunglasses which are now apart of the head accessories)
Unfortunately we donāt know
. Nothing yet regarding the change of the elder masks has been mentioned in patch notes or known issues.
The most effective way to get your view noticed by the devs is by leaving feedback in #beta-feedback and / or reporting it as a bug.
It does seem like elder masks arenāt protecting from krills / rocks / crabs right now, but that seems like a bug.
Thats okay, more so I wanted to know if ill be able to keep the eyes from the elder masks or the masks behind the other accessories that have been moved to a different section, ill probably leave a feedback on it soon, thank you!
Ooooh im sorry I didnāt understand your question fully! At the moment I guess no
. I donāt have elder masks in beta because I am too lazy to do Eden, but to my knowledge the mask part hasnāt moved
Oof thats an oof
I know everything is in beta and everything is still in progress, so maybe they will figure something out, but if it doesnt change then im worried i probably wasted like 2 50 eden candles trying to get a mask mostly for the eye shape, sure irs still rare and it protects you but the mask behind the actual shield is what interested me the most as no other mask worked for me with the mask colour + eyes
I can just hope for the best, sorry for being confusing and thank u for answering!

Also this rather focuses on my worry with my live account if the update does come through !! I didnt dedicate too much time in beta to worry about the elder masks there
No worries at all, my bad entirely. A lot of people in this chat here (me included) agree wholeheartedly - the eyeshape is soooo unique
.
I hope we do get the mask option back. Elder masks to me are like the Chibi mask: a āwholeā thing! Iām gonna give feedback out this too 
Imagine they implemented the elder eye mask and it's the long sought after Tall Mask
Thank you! And yes I agree, its very unique ^_^ I just do wonder how theyll make it work if its separate, maybe theyll leave 1 mask with the eye shape, thatd mean youll be getting 2 new accessories though in the head section after you get the 1st elder mask
Check #news - Mischief will happen in October probably and Music has been announced in the patchnotes for Live
Hi everyone, regarding the beta memory challenge I couldnāt find the info on should we keep our memories shared or should we delete them afterwards ?
i think as long as you have a video of it it should be fine?
i'd keep it up just in case though
you should be able to mention in #beta-feedback for them to include a separate mask with those eyes on it!
To the devs, or anyone who knows about my question, this is for you. š so iām planning on completely resetting my iphone and start with a new apple/icloud accountā¦. Will i be able to switch my beta account to another icloud/appleid?
You'll need to get into another invite wave successfully with that account
Thank you š
man the legs being broken in both beta and live is so annoying
about the beta memory challenges advise/ tip/ tutorial for new sky players, i just hoped there will be some kind of restriction on giving tips/ advices / tutorial in Eye of Eden till the gate (after hugging the Prince King.)
i know this is beta but as old player, i really want new players / moth to go to Eden and experience PNR as freshly as they could, alone or via friends, without any spoilers nor tricks.
it just i dunno for me, it seems memorable to flashbacks into experiencing Eden and PNR in its glory, the turmoil, the gruelling and be rewarded with beauty of Orbit without any spoilers or tips such as chibi fall, fly in eden, rocket with friends and so on.
sorry for the textwall, it just occurs to me
i understand what you mean, but some tips about the rocks at least definitely wouldāve been helpful for when i was a moth š as a moth, i got scared and stayed far in the back of pnr trying to recharge my light, it wouldāve been better if i knew that i was supposed to lose wl to get past pnr lol
I didnāt know you were intentionally supposed to lose WL so I speedran all the way to the end š
tbh personally I just tell them to save as many statues as possible cuz it'll be important later 
Wait, are the returning spirits gone? š
Yeah, i also understood the confusion as new player would feel trying to stay alive for the first time in PNR not knowing what to do other than just giving lights to nearest statue. Some people (like me) saw the big crystal at the end and felt i need to reach there. I did saw a beta memory challenge video in front of the Eden realm's door and the advise / tip on doing Eden "manually" as new player is kinda spot on and helpful! Like how to dodge the rocks and giving lights to statues.
||what i mean in previous comment of mine is about the restriction of putting memory inside Eden/ PNR and giving tips on flying, chibi falls or rocket with friends ||
as much as now Eden spoilers has been lifted, I've had few friends telling me that they were grateful nobody spoil or they try to search about Eden and just enter it for the first time as new players/ moth.
"You must save as many Fallen as you can. Are you ready to make the necessary sacrifices? Do not worry, this won't be the end of your journey."
Me pulled out my yeehaw cowboy hat and my yeehaw geetar
Anything new with the update?
Anything new would be in #beta-announcements
Did the shortcuts outside trials get patched or am I really really bad at finding the exact point in this build?
can someone check soon and ping me pls, ty
Also feel free to use this is you want. Not bothered making one myself
I agree partially, experiencing Eden spoiler free for the very first time is incredibly memorable and such a lovely emotional rollercoaster!<3 But then again Eden has been getting more difficult, I did an Eden run a while back and saw a poor lil Moth get absolutely pummeled to the point of almost giving up (they hadn't even reached PNR yet) and they were really overwhelmed and overstimulated which can in fact ruin one's first Eden run which is really sad ;v; (I ended up friending them and helped them get through it but they told me they would have quit otherwise ;u;) So I think certain tips are really valuable and can actually greatly enhance a first Eden run! :)
Back when many of us here finished the game for the first time it was a lot less challenging so tips weren't really needed but nowadays moths could take away bad memories if they accidentally end up in an unsafe spot and keep getting unlit/krilled/pummeled by rocks :'>
(Waaa sorry for the long message - tl;dr: Eden has gotten harder so tips are now quite useful for newbies!
)
Especially since crawling is pretty slow and you feel very helpless
Traumatising for new players lol
Yeah exactly :'>
Even moreso if you don't know where the braziers are to light up, you're literally stranded
Exactly.. It's even worse if you get stuck on crawl mode and haven't had a chance to light the nearest statue or light source yet and are just forced to sit there unlit and unable to do anything about it ;v;
Since it literally won't let you light them when you're unlit yourself ajdkaka I hope that gets changed one day, it must be really distressing to moths :')
Hi everyone
I'd like to ask something,i remember ppl post about abyss ultimate cape front chain in pics
And telling it has turned wooden!!!!
I thought it was fixed after it was reported here but now I wore it in live and the cape chains
From golden and green jewelry has turned to ugly wood
Why didn't they fix it š¢ pls do tell if it's fixed in future version
If it's a live issue then report it to #report-a-live-bug
It was reported here before but still came to live
And I have already reported:/
Then you just need to wait and see until it's fixed
Very late ping Toba sorry, but I tried for a good hour with a friend and I canāt find them either.
Normally I do the Chibi fall air trial with ease, but I couldnāt even find the point where it warps u to the beginning 
Yeah we tried all 3
Ohh.... That is a problem 
Well I'm sure with reports they will get to it in time o7
It was already ugly to begin with now it's worse 
Well they should have fixed the red
Instead of the chain
It was the only good quality
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Already done,tnx
hello everyone, hmm may I ask a question about the day of music?
For a bunch of violin packs, can you get a free seasonal candle when you buy it?
I'm pretty sure the violin is a one-time purchase that doesn't come with any seasonal candles. It only comes with the instrument itself. Correct me if I'm wrong though because I haven't gotten to that point in beta. Still waiting on a controller I purchased to play beta.
Yeah the violin isnāt related to the season at all. Thereās no extra currency that comes with buying the violin (at least not in beta). Itās just like the other IAP instruments in HH
okay thanks you 2 sm 
this new update is definitely giving me more reason to get the elder masks in live, i cant wait to use fox mask and forest mask at the same time 
It'll come to live by the time I'm able to get a mask in beta so I'll just not waste my energy and wait for live lol
But the real problem is: All spirits who wears elder masks went missing
huh? 
Fr the first time I did Eden, it was difficult. The walk up there was as hard as ever, but the WL place...
Thankfully I did the walk with a couple people, and completed the WL area with 2
My prob was that I didn't know I had to ||lose all my WL||. I had to look it up.
It did lead to a sweet moment when the one person I had left and I were standing by a light, dumbfounded and hanging on for dear life
SAME
the isle and bat masks look like they'll go great together 
Genuinely can't wait to try out Forest Elder overtop my beloved Ox, this plus next update will let me truly be Cowboy All Da Time
I sure hope they'll fix the elder mask glow by that time
Hello. why did the masks of the elders remove the eyes and the glow of the mask? For what? it was a cool feature in the appearance of the mask. is this not a bug?
Known issues channel mentions current bugs, hope this helps
whoever just lit the big plant with me just now in sanctuary thank you <3
I don't really use them myself (other than air for efficiency) but I know a whole bunch of friends that do use them all for WLRs that will not like this at all
I already felt the point in Air moved a bit in the previous build but in this one it disappeared completely.
Thank you so much for checking, Sof
If another invite wave occurred, would I have to redo the whole process of signing up to be a beta tester? (I'm on android)
Oh... So it wasn't just me that was struggling to hit the OOB skip in beta
I'll be pretty disappointed (but not surprised) if it ends up being removed for live. Only time will tell if a new skip will be discovered....
Big agree! It is always possible that it's a skill issue on my end
but if i do stumble upon the magical yeets, i'll mention it!! 
Not a skip but I use the wind in air trial to my advantage and can usually finish the trial in a few minutes
if there's no new skip you can always try and learn to do that too! I learnt from some video on youtube
ive seen this done a few times and its really clever- i need to learn this cause i always miss the air skip
Yeah I've tried it a few times but get frustrated every time and give up XD Some skips with the wind can be tricky to learn and I still don't always get it right in one go, but it's certainly faster than going through the entire trial 
yeah i always miss a few jumps that i spend a lot of time on, same with water, i always go in as chibi so maybe that is my problem too 
I cant do water trial with chibi at all the struggles
Tell me about it, I'm close to minimum height on live and water trial is such a pain š I haven't done the trials on beta yet even if I know it'll be easier.. Im just too lazy on beta lol
I always have to Uber people through Water because Iām tall. 
Both on beta and live.
i uber you sometimes <<insert moffia stare emote>>
....except i usually cringefail hard 
I've just sort of given up on water trial, I honestly don't mind the trial itself but it's no longer fun when you're short
will try and do the trials on beta someday though since my skykid is slightly taller on beta 
me when someone is watching me play
(insert your typo here)
(i will bite you)
Hey I didnāt say I was never a passenger 
I've sent feedback already about hoping the elder mask eyes aren't permanently removed but I feel as if they will be gone regardless from this point onwards...
Speaking of, can anybody break their elder masks? Mine is completely non functional, ive tried reloading the game etc using crabs red rocks krills
But they dont do anything
( i just get hurt / lose wings as if i didnt have anything on )
Hopefully the next update will determine it for people who have them!
yeah, happens to mine in live sometimes, its actually broken but doesn't appear that way xD
just go recharge it
Ohhh good call! Ill try that 
I have the forest mask and nothing has recharged it since the update 
Yea thats the one i have! Tried going to temple but didnt see any animations, ill have to keep testing later though, if anything ill send a bug report!
Same. I wore the forest elder mask and went to Eden, but nothing happened, nor was it charged when I met the elders.
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you all fell out of the elder's favor.
have constellations been updated to yeet people out if they block you or if they delete their account? or has one of my friends just vanished??? I'm missing someone on the first page right smack dab in the middle of the crown and I haven't blocked them and I don't think I moved them by mistake at all 
I wouldnāt think theyād disappear on your end but I could be wrongā¦?
I know for a fact they didn't previously, but maybe something changed or maybe I did just accidentally move them, but I can't find them now so 
Jaws is coming to save the day 
fen how could you forget me severing my friendship with dei forever for the sake of testing
yes, when people block you, they completely poof from your constellation, and you cant see their shared memories and all that stuff 
My memory is terrible I forgot what you said exactly š
well hell, there goes peacefully disappearing from someone's life
Iām a misinformation spreader I totally said that on purpose /j
ngl though I could have done with this a while ago, save me having to block people in return 
I take it blocking doesn't mean never being friends again though since y'all are still friends jaws and dei?
yeah I'm just kidding ššāØ
I think one or both of them wouldāve imploded if they werenāt friends again after that 
WAIT THAT MEANS MY FRIEND BLOCKED ME RIP š
Looks like I have to take the spot on your crown constellation instead
/j
me adding every person I see just to block them in order to erase my name from people's memory and disappear in the sky's digital landscape: š
totally not me who used to have a friend on discord AND on sky beta that just suddenly blocked me and unfriended me on both sky and discord. i'm not gonna name names here but let's just say i was pretty confused when i saw them still active on the sky discord, but they just blocked me with no explanation 
š¤ blocked out of nowhere by someone on your list
Ain't bother me much tho they never light me so 
Man I just thought, imagine this coming to live and half the inactive old friends you have vanish and it turns out they didn't just stop playing sky but they blocked you, emotional damage x 1000 if my first sky friend disappears
she owes me nothing, but I get a smile whenever I see her name in my con even if we haven't talked in nearly two years 
had that happen in the past, it's unfortunate and can hurt, but not everyone is meant to stay in our lives and we can always grow and meet new people who will bring joy and good times 
but what's sad about it for me is that like... they STILL talk here, and they're pretty like... well known-ish here, i still ain't gonna name names but just... let that be a hint. 
In some ways having friends silently disappear with no actual notice is easier to digest, I don't really welcome the "what did I do wrong" thoughts when people vanish from constellations when you get blocked, but also it's just a part of life and growing and ima just try not to let it tarnish my sky experience cause I think it allows us to not hold on to dead ends 
And anyways, at least I know the new system works 
In order to unearth friends who have gone off the list, we may temporarily block them with the intention of unblocking them at a later date. If the star disappears when blocked, an unintended tragedy may occur. There must be a way to unearth the list without blocking.
oh yeah that's true, I don't tend to block to refresh my cons, normally I just light what I can see, do my run, come home and check cons again and light any that have refreshed in, but I know some people use the block method to cycle through friends so that's gonna be wild for those they block on the other end 
they should really give us a better method to cycle through the void end of our cons cause after the favourites section everything just goes to hell
I personally don't mind the blocking removing people from cons
don't have to worry abt people trying to light me that I have no interest in maintaining a relationship with (I hardly block unless I'm uncomfortable with ppl, really. It's rare for me to block otherwise)
Yeah I usually have people blocked who I've never interacted with and who don't light me after like idk months on end, most are just the random friends from the start of my sky journey, but I also tend to hoard so it took me like over a year before I started doing constellation clean outs and it didn't feel as harsh when the other person didn't know they were being blocked cause like I don't want them to think they've done something wrong, but also if someone blocks me like that it'd be good to know so I could remove them my end too so that solves that problem I guess. My main concern is just like how I overthink in general, but it's more of a personal issue that online folks aren't responsible for so if I ever get blocked and they yeet from my con I'll just deal with it 
It's as close to unfriending as we get so far too so we'll see how it goes!
In other news I have deleted a shared memory in home space that I left months ago repeatedly and it keeps coming back 
Wow I thought they got deleted or something when one of my friends disappeared from my Constellation
Little upset as they were the longest person I've chatted with for 2 hours on beta and wanted to chat more on a app and now they are gone from my cons

my friend told me that if you didnāt upgrade your friendship tree to at least the first ascended candle level then it will be as if they were blocked. is this really happening in beta?
We are just having #beta-known-issues message
Unlit is not equal to blocking, we can chat and interact with each other regardless the bug
Random but does the passage masks stay(other then the ult one)
The ones in the guide's tree? Yes, those are permanent
YIPPEE MY CSNDLES ARE SAFE
Guys what's this weeks ts I can't remember who came after boogie
Crab Walker is next! 
Crab Walker 
Provoking Performer 
Sneezing Geographer 
Snoozing Carpenter 
Tinkering Chimesmith 
Grateful Shell Collector 
Admiring Actor 
Copypasta'd from Cy 
Can I get a ping when Admiring Actor arrives in beta? Pls š š
12 more weeks š
December 7?! š
December is in 6 months
12 weeks is around 3 months so September, probably?
Just set an alarm on your phone for that date at that rate lol
But donāt count on it. Anything can happen in beta
and it's always the spirit getting skipped you've waited for /hj
Found a hacker in live and they had the birthday shell prop that played music
They friended me and and gave me a hug wich was sweet
Man i can't count, September 14 indeed š¤¦āāļø š
Now give them sweet report 
Today in live My server merged with my old friend whom I blocked long ago.
In my opinion the Aurora wings should be available forever but I get why thatās not
Im excited for next seasooonnn! The map give me "Howl's moving castle" vibe! I want do picnics with my friends
Iām not part of beta, but I heard about something and I want to confirm it.
I heard there was some kind of update to chibi masks or something like that. Please tell me more if this is true. Thank you.
no changes to the chibi, just some other masks (glasses, base game metall headgear, elder masks) have been converted into accessories you can put on top of chibi 
So this means certain accessories will be made to match your size? (I got the smallest height without chibiā¦so this may apply to me as well?
you can say that, yeah, but the main thing is that you can now put any of these accessories on top of any mask, without having to choose between maskless and the sunglasses, for example 
I wish that little prince lamp lighter hat become an accesory, I can't make 2 feedback about it it would be spam 
I don't want it to become one because I wear it all the time with other things paired with it
If there was a way to retain the original look then sure, but knowing how the closet works it won't be organised fairly enough
@hollow flame sorry to ping here, itās to not crowd the screenshot channel.
If you play an instrument, your friends can hear it, but to them the instrument is still on your back. Same goes for umbrellas, fireworks staff, etc.
Placeable props are visible though
I donāt mind the ping, Thank you for the further details.
Bit random but does anyone know if the 5th Abyss quest is still bugged?
I wanna see if the abyss oob is still accessible but my friend needs the quests
It's no longer bugged for me
Question for those who tried the violin, is it worth 20$? Iām still considering tho
I mean it depends on how you feel about it. Personally I love the violin, and will end up buying it. Though they'll have spells to test it before you buy so you can decide with that too.
as someone who has spent an unhealthy amount of money on this game, i say yes, but i also am bias about these things
That is very much a subjective question - do you play with the instruments regularly? Is this a lot of money for you personally? Would you rather buy a whole game for the same price (sorry Sky, love you)? For me, I don't play with the instruments at all so it's kind of a no but I expect I'll buy it anyways š
Also, the violin will be available even after the event ends, so there's no rush in purchasing it right away. Don't feel like you need to make an immediate decision! šš»
If you think youāre gonna play it a lot and you love the way it sounds, sure! Itās not a top priority but for me, but it is pretty.
Not more connection issues TvT
ive decided to get on later today- im also getting issues, could be some kreb working on the backend
Hopefully it gets fixed. I'm so close to finishing off the season spirits xD
server errors nooooo....
Hello all I feel quite lost today I can't log into beta and where can I find out more about this memory challenge?
Nvm reading through the updates I found quite a bit of information. I know better. Soory
Hello there, Bare! The memory challenge is on the very top of the server! You can know everything about it by reading the pinned messages and the announcement in #beta-announcements. š
any idea when we should expect the wardrobe changes to come to live?
!wafo 
š§ Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta or Live
Any Beta announcements will be made in ā #beta-announcements, and Live announcements will be made in #news!
Hi guys, i have a question about joining beta, I was able to download beta app just now. What do i do know? Is there a link i should open or do i just start? Someone please?
If you're part of the beta you just open it up and play, if not you have to wait for an invite wave
Okay thanks, how often does invite waves come?
Not sure. They come whenever TGC decides to send them out, which we never know when
Did that š thanks
if they have downloaded it from the play store, then it means they are already in beta 
sometimes google just has an open invite slot, and some people are lucky to snatch it in time 
if you have the game downloaded from the play store just open it and start playing
Oh really?? REALLYYY
lemme try rn
Osa, do you have server errors / freezes and crashes?
Thank you all guys, it seems like im really a new beta player
it works just fine, sorry for the ping hehe
im just super happy
Trouble logging in beta š
me too the server is buggy
You're still trying to figure it out? I gave up
separate from everything else, beta is having problems with server errors today
I can get the game to start to load I might be able to hit play on the opening screen if I can. I'm lucky today, it tells me I have connection errors and I have to try again. I haven't even been lucky enough to get to server error inside the game yet. I'm thinking maybe I need to reset my Wi-Fi because I haven't done it in a while but live is playing just fine.
I think beta servers are just not liking us right now 
I havenāt seen you on beta in a while but did you perhaps place a message boat after the update? Gotta make sure 
Especially me... beta kicked me out into void, it's been like 5 days already

It was bad enough I couldn't even play with my own AlterNet because I could not see them when I know they're right there in front of me. By the way, the best way, I found to test the game so far. And I know that's a consolation issue, to say the least.
Reminding us to touch grass 
If I wanted to walk, I wouldn't be flying around that game. Giggle snort
Are the beta servers not working again 
They're working fine (for my alt), my main is... lost
I lost to a boat
I have had server issues a couple of days this last week, but nothing like not even being able to logon like today
Awww shoot me a dm when youāre able to log in again Osa!
Was hoping people were on the beta so I can read whatās coming to live but seems like it aināt happening for a bit
Ur gonna have to wafo with the rest of us 
im not in beta but to finish all the anniversary show for the candle tickets how long would it take? Like will I have to watch like 1 hour everyday of shows just to get the tickets?
No, it lasts a bit over 30 minutes, but you can just teleport to the office at certain times to get cupcakes and then leave
like the shows are all together right? not seperated?
it could still take up to 50 minutes, if you show up at, say, 3 minutes after the performance had started, and one of them was a ticketless dance break
pspspps android users GO
QUICK QUICK ANDROID MOTHS GET ON THE INVITE
Ayo what Android invites open?

Omw to kidnap moffs
Or! You can teleport to office at 1. ĆĆ:00-ĆĆ:03, 2. ĆĆ:10-ĆĆ:13, 3. ĆĆ:20-ĆĆ:23 and lastly 4. ĆĆ:30-ĆĆ33
šI dont think I will have time for that will I have enough time for ticekts even if I don't watch the show?
good luck new beta moths 
GOGOGOGOGOOOOOOO RUN QUICK
I GOT INTO BETA
oooo new beta testers!
Omg what
I got so excited thinking it was for PC
when i saw the ping my heart dropped š
For the love of the elder please don't let the playtest be festival tech for the new seasonal area 
the goal is to watch 4 unique performances. since they tend to repeat on 2 hour or so basis, the best way to ensure you get all the 5 tickets is to watch them in a row (2 tickets are given for the birthday song performance specifically)
you dont have to watch them all the way through, just "show up at :00 -> go do something else -> reappear 10 mins later -> repeat until full count"
I already have beta, but now here's what i'm curious about... what will the new playtest be for? the anniversary ended, rainbow has already been fully tested, so... that only leaves a very small number of possibilities. either it's for days of sunlight which we haven't tested at all yet but saw a tiny bit of in the cave at grandma's, it could be more testing for the concert to ensure the servers are working alright, or it could be something bigger... 
Welcome to the new Android moths! I am very intrigued by what this play test is! Aviary, maybe?
ā¦consider the following:
aviary testing
Oh ty! maybe I will have enough time
hii can I use the same google account for beta and live?
im also wondering that
yes but progress wont carry over
ty i was worrying that I would lose my live account or something š anyway yay time to test beta!!!
WELCOME ABOARD NEW BETA MOTHS!! ā ^_^

GUYSKJEJRHHHHHHHHHHGH
haaii yall im about to become a beta moff 
what should i do nowwww that im a tester where will i get beta?
Welcome new beta testers!!!!!

The best place to start for new testers is by reading #beta-faq and #beta-announcements 
aaaa I'm so happy for the new testers!
PLEASE LET IT BE AVIARY TESTING I'VE BEEN SO HYPED FOR IT. 
Here's hoping that "later this week" means Thursday, because I'm leaving the country on Friday and won't have internet access!
i can't believe i made it
