programming

[flint dome]

unusual

[worthy niche]

i have to reprogram an entire system due to a small oversight :/

usually my errors are missing semicolons or parentheses
this time the error is me

[fickle rain]

OK chat
What is good things about NixOS?

[jagged turtle]

"reproducibility" or smth

[nocturne olive]

If you break it you can go back to a working generation

[fickle rain]

Do I get NVIDIA drivers during installer

[nocturne olive]

Noveau by default

[silent cloak]

Ask one of the resident advertisers

[fickle rain]

Maybe Gentoo is a better choice?

[jagged turtle]

bro has been deleting and reposting that

(sent a lot more I presume)

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-automaton-robot-laptop-oil-gif-7384339337185613233

[nocturne olive]

Banned for spamming

[worthy niche]

clanker

also probably made by a clanker
-# can i say that here? "clanker"?

[jagged turtle]

I think you can say clanker just don't call neuro that ig

[worthy niche]

yeah neuro isn't a clanker
whatever made that gif is tho

[maiden geyser]

are we questioning whether it's ok to use clankerphobic language now

[fickle rain]

That's a lot of clankers

140 clankers sounds like it'd eat a lot more than 5 million tokens

[worthy niche]

My motto: Block annoying people

If you ask me: Do you care? No, I don't.

What I hear is up to me. Heck you

Your reality is not part of my reality

[umbral wigeon]

110 agents 5 million tokens

[worthy niche]

This is a server about an AI vtuber, I'm worried people would get offended.

[nocturne olive]

There's no way that isn't a bot of some kind

[umbral wigeon]

POV: 110 agents
https://tenor.com/view/baki-hanma-bro-js-typing-shi-bro-js-typin-shi-bro-just-typin-shi-bro-just-typing-shi-gif-934396715436376096

[maiden geyser]

110 clankers??? for just 2 pounds???

[umbral wigeon]

1 LOC added 1000000 LOC removed

[kindred solar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qklvh5Cp_Bs

[nocturne olive]

[umbral wigeon]

Claude, rewrite this in rust

[worthy niche]

i gtg fix my code bye
-# i swear if this guy's still preaching his motto when i get back I'm gonna lose it

[umbral wigeon]

Some student sent me code review for luau zombie path finding project

What do you guys think

(Be grateful, it's a student project)

[worthy niche]

i don't know if that's good, someone else should take a look

[umbral wigeon]

Gng my eyes are bleeding

Some people might be worse

[umbral wigeon]

Most worst I've seen from code review ppl sent to me was 1000+ lines of code ModuleScript

[worthy niche]

why do you keep deleting your messages

stop altering reality

STAHP

[jagged turtle]

did they take inspiration from yandev or smth

[umbral wigeon]

Calm down, it's student code

You can't compare his code to github demon level 99 programmers like us

[worthy niche]

nah my code's worse

[umbral wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/rahh-gif-5669734919869282003

[worthy niche]

i can't cook spaghetti but i can make spaghetti code

[kindred solar]

update to 42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afcFRz81yTg

What is your 42 ?

[jagged turtle]

didn't heir say something about bots always picking green

they ain't a bot but still funny

[worthy niche]

i don't know what you're talking about

[worthy niche]

you sure?

[jagged turtle]

is this keno guy seriously larping or smth

[jagged turtle]

like 80%

cuz they were typing somewhat humanly before

[worthy niche]

anyway i do actually need to rework some of my code, gtg

[glass jetty]

[sage crag]

who is us

[opaque wharf]

Who would've thought unchecked chromium also leaks CPU usage

Leaks CPU usage as in, it uses CPU for no reason at all (and other reason why my CPU constantly at 80%)

[rigid snow]

aa

[nocturne olive]

Something about this feels very automated

[jagged turtle]

I mean it's the same thing over and over again it could just as easily be send -> delete previous messages

I saw that happen with my own eyes so

[nocturne olive]

[maiden geyser]

modssssssssss

[jagged turtle]

yo mods is this considered spamming

@rare bridge

screenshots of deleted messages

[kind fable]

0/10 because luau

[fair cipher]

almost 100% a bot

nuked

if it wasnt a bot then well um shit

[jagged turtle]

I'm inclined to believe they aren't a bot given that the timing of their message deletions were human like

[echo tangle]

sup

[jagged turtle]

but they've been deleting and resending the same message over and over again

so count that as spam and move on with +1 ban count I guess

[maiden geyser]

#baking ban evasion situation is insane

[split steppe]

dead internet theory but it's 12 year olds thinking they're very edgy pretending to be bots

[echo tangle]

valid point

[umbral wigeon]

Luau is peak bro

[jagged turtle]

(not the first time)

[umbral wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-angry-furious-fuming-mad-gif-17841869167183441241

Say that again to lua, luau

[split steppe]

luau is ok but i'm a purist, plain lua(jit) is enough for me

[rigid snow]

[kind fable]

Bro is roblox pilled

[true hemlock]

https://x.com/BullTheoryio/status/2060810332831129782?s=20

Bull Theory (@BullTheoryio)

BREAKING: Google is planning to release 32 million mosquitoes across Florida and California.

The company has asked the EPA for permission to proceed, with the public given until June 5 to respond.

The mosquitoes are infected with Wolbachia bacteria, which stops them from

X · May 30, 2026, 7:47 PM

google doing random side quests again

though their side quests are usually pretty beneficial

[jagged turtle]

isn't another one of alphabet's child companies or whatever doing it

this doesn't seem very google-y

[stark needle]

-# meow

[tight tinsel]

your name gets even harder to type day after day xd

[rare bridge]

https://github.com/dockur/proxmox

why

[opaque wharf]

Because why not?

Some fella even attempt to run steam inside of docker

[jagged turtle]

what the fuck

[idle dune]

https://giphy.com/gifs/playstation-helldivers-2-helldivers2-Tg8R0Sqv8IXma8y3qW

Bot spotted

⬆️ ➡️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️

https://giphy.com/gifs/culture--run-3oKIPwoeGErMmaI43S

[teal cipher]

got some of that... pro weekly limit? XD

⬆️ ⬆️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬅️ ➡️ ⬅️ ➡️ 🅱️ 🅰️

https://tenor.com/view/konami-gif-26712029

[jagged turtle]

did you spend it already?

[silent cloak]

Just learn

[teal cipher]

tested bunch of game ideas so yeah... but according to community there is soon reset to weekly limit as they tend to do that at times

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/черный-gif-8284575235000460429

[rigid snow]

My motto: Trust, but verify (includes myself)

If you ask me: how much do you trust me?
I respond 60 trust 40 verify.
What you heard is not what I said - your 60 is not my 60.

I'm up to me
You are up to you

Your reality is not my reality.

[teal cipher]

I have this over 400 MB big holocure like game project that has been cooking quite a while with fancy presentation... goal mode just keeps going... also is more organized than me with files and stuff so it reorganized once project started to really get extensive

[rigid snow]

based vibecoder

[teal cipher]

characters and enemies are animated... playable characters already have eight directional animation movement... so... of course we don't frontload every damn asset when someone wants to play the game so it even has dynamic loading

[kind nimbus]

Google back then: Don't be evil

Google now: let's release 32 million mosquitoes

[teal cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-ai-vtuber-settle-this-peacefully-gif-6204625403322205544

[kind nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1497323143579308124/1497323144644395128/IMG_8897.gif

[split steppe]

excited to read in 10 years how Google's mosquitoes have finally cascaded into complete global ecosystem collapse as i try to purify the acid rain in my nuclear basement

[flint dome]

they done released the data center spiders on the sun we're all fucked

[teal cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/sherry-birkin-albert-wesker-resident-gif-9269336

[olive sable]

[obsidian mantle]

what if bacteria mutates

[teal cipher]

lol

that's one hella video game reference XD

[kind nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/ponste3-gif-19680776

[sick owl]

Precisely, I was trying to work out how much cover it needed to adequately shield it

[sick owl]

Is that the hit movie Resident Evil by Oscar winning director Paul WS Anderson

[flint dome]

ok bro i guess

[opaque sigil]

[sick owl]

Ended up deciding to stick with Gemma 4 31B over 26B because it still seems to perform well with bartowskis Q5_K_S quant and it burns half the reasoning tokens as 26b so it being 60% slower doesn't actually hurt as much as I'd imagined it would

Keeping the MoE around for vision tasks though

[olive sable]

im no expert, but the colours they used for their graph is different form the explanation

[rare bridge]

btw i haven't made a project post for this yet (waiting for next weeks schedule), but i finished my unofficial neuro schedule api

[opaque sigil]

each lab has their own colour

[rare bridge]

if anyone wants to use it (or has suggestions), feel free to look at https://github.com/cloudburstwan/neuro-schedule-api

[kind nimbus]

Yes that scene is out of Resident Evil

It's the red queen which was an ai in the movie

https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Queen_(Anderson)

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

[rare bridge]

fyi this is my first time working in golang, so if the code is dogshit that's why, but don't be discouraged to point out the dogshit. it'll help me learn

[nocturne olive]

I has given it to the sheep and they said "yay useful"

[rare bridge]

let them know that i accept both issues and prs on the repo, so if they have anything they want added just make an issue!

[split steppe]

it's not your fault if the code is dogshit, because that's just golang 👍

[trim valve]

quest 3 works

nixos however does not

[kind nimbus]

Hm

Linus still hasn't reacted to Vedal's server build yet

[olive sable]

might need openHMD

[split steppe]

looks alright i guess, you might wanna use your json lib for errors as well
https://github.com/cloudburstwan/neuro-schedule-api/blob/main/src/http/http.go
https://github.com/cloudburstwan/neuro-schedule-api/blob/main/src/http/json.go
and you do a lock around the assignment here but not the file write. if you need to lock there, the file write is going to cause you a lot more issues than the variable so lock around it too
https://github.com/cloudburstwan/neuro-schedule-api/blob/main/src/hub/hub.go#L68-L70

[fickle rain]

Claude cyber safeguard is pretty silly
Code virtualization? Sure, fine, go on
String hiding? Oh noes better fill out this form (fuck you mean referrers? OpenAI didn’t ask for no referrers)

[trim valve]

nah this is alvr

it is unhappy

[olive sable]

[rare bridge]

could you make issues for these? just so i can track them for my own purposes, i tend to forget stuff easily

for locking, should i write lock only the def and then rlock the file write, or just extend the lock?

actually, with potential EventStream suipport it'd prob be better to lock for the whole function call

[split steppe]

extending the lock to the entire call is fine, though i personally prefer locking only around the side effects to minimize locked time, but you need to be more careful that way

also reading the file would need a rlock too, to avoid reading partial writes

[rare bridge]

we only read on init and nothing else should be writing to that file.. but it is mounted so fair...

i think

nvm it's a docker volume

[split steppe]

doesn't particularly matter where it comes from, only the usage. if it's only meant as the initial ingest then that's alright, doesn't need the rlock

[rare bridge]

yeah it pulls from the file on init, from that point onwards the data is in memory and is written when Broadcast is called

[split steppe]

hmm, as i understand it's meant more for mods/etc when someone with perms posts a schedule in the channel, if it's that infrequent then it's not a big deal tbh

[rare bridge]

Broadcast is called autonomously when a message in #schedule is published, after a parser function parses the message

so approx right

[split steppe]

i wonder if you even need that file, on init you could read the last valid schedule message from the channel and work entirely in memory

[trim valve]

why did I choose to use linux

[split steppe]

if your api is down and a schedule is posted in the meantime, you will be out of date until someone posts a new one or updates, due to that file

could fetch like 10 last messages on init with this, and parse them to load whatever is latest right from source https://pkg.go.dev/github.com/bwmarrin/discordgo?utm_source=godoc#Session.ChannelMessages

[olive sable]

what games are you gonna play?

[opaque wharf]

Linux is a perfectly cromulent kernel tho

[split steppe]

oh yea also, for networked software use the AGPL license, that requires opensourcing changes for serverside software, which normal GPL doesn't, as it doesn't count as distribution in that license

that is, if you intend it to be consistently opensource and changes fed back

[opaque wharf]

The only differentiating factor is how distro setup their userspace

[rare bridge]

good idea

[rare bridge]

[opaque wharf]

Me when I use busybox

[trim valve]

probably beatsaber mostly lol

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

I used to be decent and can still play alright

there's a few growing pains with alvr at the moment

mostly making it actually work with my gpu

but also there's stuff with launching the app

my quest won't let me launch alvr unless im connected to a network with internet

which is an issue because my setup doesn't bridge the router I have to the wider world

[trim valve]

also every now and then I'll probably poke vrchat but I never really got into it as a concept

[split steppe]

vrchat is pretty rough nowadays

[olive sable]

it depends

i wouldnt join too many random lobbies

but when you join friends its nice

[split steppe]

only if you have friends outside of it sure

but the lobbies themselves are mainly full of terminally online weirdos and kids, or people who don't interact at all, or established friend groups who dont talk to others

[olive sable]

ye

hence i mostly join quack and such

[opaque wharf]

Pewds just release Odysseus

[olive sable]

https://www.llamabuilds.ai/build/pewdiepie-ai-gpu-rig-nvidia-rtx-4000

NVIDIA RTX 4000 Ada is kinda ass huh

[nocturne olive]

By the way I may have gotten a bunch of money from graduating high school so I may be inquiring for GPU pricing soon-ish

[trim valve]

[olive sable]

752W seems unhealthy

[trim valve]

nah thats fine I think

[nocturne olive]

Like over 1000€ much

So yeah I think that can get me a GPU

[split steppe]

addicted to gpus

i tried to get the free gpt to do me a shader thing but it's actually stupid so i guess i'm learning shaders now and doing it myself

[opaque wharf]

Wait, you're younger than Sam?

[nocturne olive]

I don't know

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

you know about this, i have sent pictures i know you've seen

this shouldnt be new info lmao

[opaque wharf]

Holy moly pewds is making an entire AI SaaS frontend

[olive sable]

oooh, he has a new vid

https://youtu.be/rAzT5lcezPs?

[kind nimbus]

So what is everyone #baking today?

I just decided to make some Matcha.

[olive sable]

its nearly 6pm and i havent eaten yet

[split steppe]

matcha sounds great

[kind nimbus]

And it contains EGCG and anti oxidants

[split steppe]

i had made pizza yesterday but i already ate it

[kind nimbus]

And caffeine uh

[opaque wharf]

https://github.com/pewdiepie-archdaemon/odysseus

[split steppe]

yuh, matcha is just fancy green tea

[nocturne olive]

Maybe if you have cheap GPUs and cheap VR hardware I may consider

[opaque wharf]

This is wild lmao

[nocturne olive]

Now that I suddenly have some money to work with

[kind nimbus]

Purest form of fancy green tea with highest amounts of EGCG

[split steppe]

i do wanna go to japan someday and get authentic matcha experience

[kind nimbus]

Oh yea

[split steppe]

and soosh

i hope theres subtitles

[opaque wharf]

Fun fact: a chunk of Odysseus was built from a phone -- mobile shells (Termux), the PWA install, and on-device agents. So "works on mobile" isn't an afterthought, it's where a lot of it actually happened.

[opaque wharf]

The dude is cracked

[kind nimbus]

Look at this nice foam tho

[split steppe]

what happens when the average nerd becomes a millionaire

[split steppe]

beautiful

[silent cloak]

I hate the taste but its better than coffee for you

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/s2jZF4EkZ5I.gif

[silent cloak]

So i still drink it sometimes for the effect

[kind nimbus]

Hm too strong / bitter?

Different kinds of matcha quality usually have different bitterness

The more premium matcha is usually smoother

[silent cloak]

Might give it a whirl

[split steppe]

slap some milk and sugar in there and u got a latte

[silent cloak]

I mostly drink yorkshire gold these days

[kind nimbus]

Ah no sugar

[silent cloak]

Every morning

Have to get it ordered everytime though

[split steppe]

british alert

[silent cloak]

Im as American as they come

[split steppe]

lies, who else would drink yorkshire

[silent cloak]

Some friends call me American vedal

[silent cloak]

Grew up drinking a variety of teas

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/9iAy.gif

[silent cloak]

And after some recommendations i got hooked on it

[kind nimbus]

Finished result

[split steppe]

still bagged tho

leafy best

[silent cloak]

Meh doesnt make a difference for me with this

It blows alot of the others ive had out of the water

[split steppe]

interesting

[silent cloak]

There is probably better out there but i don't really have the free time to try teas these days

[trim valve]

going well

[olive sable]

that frametime looks bad

[split steppe]

is it routed to the right gpu

[trim valve]

it feels bad

[olive sable]

makes sense, you're getting like 18fps or so

[trim valve]

unlikely but steamvr is not having fun

[split steppe]

[opaque sigil]

infinite fps

[kind nimbus]

I just put some Manuka honey in there

[trim valve]

I wish I had my amd desktop to hand

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/blhBD.gif

[kind nimbus]

Mh i added some milk as well

[trim valve]

i really cannot win here

[tender river]

i remember steamvr on linux

it uh

worked sometimes

[trim valve]

[umbral wigeon]

SteamOS still exists?

[tender river]

ye

used on steam deck

[trim valve]

idk whats even happening now with my gpu

I think games are rendering on the igpu but video encode is happening on the dgpu

[kind nimbus]

Public Release of Steam OS 3 is delayed until Satan rises again from hell to earth

[opaque sigil]

[trim valve]

can they invent nixgpt

to fix my nixos

[kind nimbus]

I just let Claude code fix my nix configs lol

[opaque sigil]

https://chatgpt.com/g/g-8CMPcs5TF-nixgpt

[tender river]

it called chayleaf

subscription fee too high

[opaque sigil]

[trim valve]

walk time

too much computer for today

[tender river]

enjoy walk

[trim valve]

2 full hours of trying to make steamvr, nixos and my quest 3 play nicely

with Nvidia for the fun of it

[tender river]

cybeliv

[trim valve]

idk what more I could add to make this any harder on linux

oh yeah

its a laptop

[sick owl]

https://youtu.be/rAzT5lcezPs

Pewdiepie released an agent harness

Wild

[opaque wharf]

You should check the repo

[tender river]

[opaque wharf]

Fun fact: a chunk of Odysseus was built from a phone -- mobile shells (Termux), the PWA install, and on-device agents. So "works on mobile" isn't an afterthought, it's where a lot of it actually happened.

He did use GrapheneOS

[maiden geyser]

is this huge or nothingburger

[sick owl]

Lmao

[sick owl]

It is neither

[kind nimbus]

Wasn't on my bingo card

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, its likely does not affect him

[split steppe]

i hope it isnt his first time on github :V

[sick owl]

Surprisingly considering its developed by Pewdiepie of all people it does have a better memory system than a lot of vibeslop harnesses

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/1vJu.gif

next pewds youtube video: i got pwned

[sick owl]

I highly doubt he's exposing it outside of his LAN so its not a huge deal

Obviously not good but not catastrophic so long as its insulated against CORS fuckery

[opaque wharf]

He likely uses Wireguard anyway

I remember his earlier vid of his journey. Bro really coded up his own spin off of photoshop than learning GIMP

[split steppe]

there's exactly 1 thing exposed locally and it's the searx engine lul

the rest will bind to 0.0.0.0 which is wan

[opaque wharf]

Not necessarily port forwarded

[fickle rain]

Claude will pwn back

[split steppe]

if he's hosting it on some more powerful pc to access it from his other devices, it likely would be

[opaque wharf]

Also, 0.0.0.0 is not WAN. It is just every interface connected

[opaque wharf]

Nope. He has 4-8 gpu

Running on lan via wireguard

[opaque wharf]

When he needs it remotely

[olive sable]

i wonder how well those "delete my data" services actually work. cuz at the end of the day they can just say the deleted it and still keep it. and the company that asks to delete your data now also has your data

[split steppe]

who knows what vibecoded crap he's got set up ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[olive sable]

this discord message was sponsored by incogni

[opaque wharf]

It's the same as how you hire a lawyer to do your legal stuff

[split steppe]

they collect your data and sell it for a higher price because now the data is real

[opaque wharf]

They will give you the report

[olive sable]

i would like to selfhost more stuff, but most of the services i use cant be selfhosted

[opaque wharf]

Such as?

[split steppe]

do it like pewds, vibecode it

[olive sable]

streaming services, music app, ...
you know like the daily stuff

[opaque wharf]

You can actually self host those

Just with your own owned media

[olive sable]

i could host my own github locally and ai locally, and thats basically it.
streaming is basically not possible to do locally without downloading the content sublegally

[split steppe]

or buying the records legally

[opaque wharf]

Ye this

[olive sable]

i dont have the money to buy every song ever made

[split steppe]

so stop listening to every song ever made

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, most modern artists didn't launch their album physically anymore

[olive sable]

the whole point of streaming for me is that its easy to listen to a new song or watch a new movie

i cant spend hundreds to get the bluray box set of every anime i watch

[sick owl]

Its only WAN if you make it so at the router level

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/bD8iM.gif

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, the value proposition is very dependent on the user

[split steppe]

wouldnt be the first time

[opaque wharf]

For me, I don't watch as much movie nor anime

But I do watch youtube

So I pay premium

[olive sable]

even hosting ai locally is pretty bad with how limited the context window is, i can barely send 5 messages in a row before the 8Gb is full

tbf gemma 4 yaps a fuckton

[opaque wharf]

Fun fact, LTT did their breakdown and find that premium user, little as they are, actually contributes more to the revenue than ad supported viewer

[reef ingot]

Peak?

[opaque wharf]

That means paying premium actually do helps your preferred content creator

[olive sable]

THE ONE PIECE IS REAL

[split steppe]

02 ❤️

[reef ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/whitebeard-one-piece-aba-gif-25861590

[olive sable]

i pay for yt music premium. and i just dont watch ads on main youtube

i ocnsider 6 euro per month to be enough for them

[sick owl]

Use 26BA4B and offload some layers then you'll be able to fit plenty

You can get like 30t/s even on CPU with it

[opaque wharf]

You get music premium bundled with youtube premium

[olive sable]

im not running pi hole actually. but i could i guess.

[olive sable]

more expensive tho

[sage crag]

xpotato

[reef ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

Pi hole

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/s2jZF4EkZ5I.gif

the pi hole

[opaque wharf]

That's fair, but if you are paying family plan then it is cheaper

[olive sable]

what the fuck is this?

[reef ingot]

He got a goal

[olive sable]

im not family sized

im sam sized

[opaque wharf]

[reef ingot]

;)

[opaque wharf]

I mean you do have a sister don't you?

[olive sable]

i do

[opaque wharf]

Split the cost with her

[teal cipher]

the promised codex weekly use limit got reset... let's go! https://puu.sh/KNOBR/903a16a80d.png

[sick owl]

Or run a smaller model like Ministral 14B

[teal cipher]

the promised land is real

[sage crag]

PAAAAAAAAA

[sick owl]

Or even Gemma 4 E4B if you're not relying on internal knowledge

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

[olive sable]

im running 26B A4B it heretic 4bit

on 4090

[sage crag]

nuropat2 reacted by nuropat2

@opaque wharf change your name

[opaque wharf]

Why is there no evilpat

[sage crag]

you nurpat2

[opaque wharf]

Omw

[sage crag]

🫵

another nosebleed

ow ow

[sick owl]

Then something's wrong, I get 50t/s at Q8 with this setup on my 4090/7700X system

mmproj           = C:\Users\pikac\AppData\Local\llama.cpp\mmproj-google_gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-bf16.gguf
ctx-size         = 32768
ctx-checkpoints  = 24
n-cpu-moe        = 8
fit-target       = 512
temp             = 1.0
min-p            = 0.00
repeat-penalty   = 1.00
presence-penalty = 0.00
repeat-last-n    = 0
top-p            = 0.95
top-k            = 64
flash-attn       = on
mlock            = on
no-mmap          = on
reasoning-budget = -1
parallel         = 1```

[maiden geyser]

neuropath2

[olive sable]

where the hell did you get that list from?

[sick owl]

I made it myself

[opaque wharf]

Chad

[sick owl]

Its in my llama.cpp models.ini file

[olive sable]

oyh

im on vllm

llvm?

[sick owl]

Honestly you'd be better off using llama.cpp

[olive sable]

these are named so badly

[opaque wharf]

LLVM is the compiler guy

[olive sable]

everything has the same letters

[sick owl]

Way more flexible, VLLM is better only if you're relying on tensor parallelism or need to optimise for a multi user setup imo

[olive sable]

i mean, it is multi-user

but like max 10 people

[opaque wharf]

Yeah but I doubt you serve all 10 at single point in time

[olive sable]

its highly unlikely

i dont want it to crash if that becomes the case tho

[opaque wharf]

Use my philosophy of crash early

[split steppe]

it shouldn't crash, just hold the requests in a queue

for users

[sick owl]

If you're not batching then llama.cpp is no better or worse in the first place tbh

Maybe a little less raw speed but you trade that for stability, much more sensible config options and way nicer quant options

[olive sable]

i dont really car much about quant options

4bit is fine

[sick owl]

I really wouldn't rely on a 4 bit quant of a 4b active params model

[olive sable]

it works fine, idk

[sick owl]

Wait why are you not using Q8 and a longer context window

[rough bloom]

can confirm

it is dentge

at 4-bit

[sick owl]

Even in VLLM that should be quite do-able on a setup like this

[olive sable]

i have no clue what that means

[split steppe]

ask your llm to fix itself

[opaque wharf]

The model weight quantization

And the context the model has access to

[olive sable]

what about it?

[sick owl]

Q8 = 8 bit quant

[opaque wharf]

Potat is saying you can use Q8 instead of Q4 with your setup

[olive sable]

8 bit didnt fit

its a 4090

4 bit uses 16gb

[sick owl]

Why not offload with a model that has so few active params?

I recommended llama.cpp but you can do it with regex in VLLM too

[olive sable]

offload to where?

[sick owl]

Your CPU

VLLM does support that right?

[olive sable]

no

[sick owl]

buh

I guess the regex stuff is only for offloading across GPUs

[opaque wharf]

I think they do

Lemme read the docs again

[olive sable]

hmmm

i odnt think they let me put layers on the cpu like someone mentioned to me before

[sick owl]

If you really insist on fitting the model entirely on GPU use a 4 bit quant of the 31B model with 32k context at least

It makes no sense to use the MoE if you're not offloading

[olive sable]

i dont really mind whether its on the cpu or gpu, but fully cpu is probably slow as fuck

its pcie 3.0 x16 so not the fastest

[sick owl]

Oh okay yeah you probs don't wanna offload

[opaque wharf]

Not for Q8

[sick owl]

In that case grab this version of the 31B model and use 32k context

https://huggingface.co/Intel/gemma-4-31B-it-int4-AutoRound

It'll work much better within your constraints

[sage crag]

todays word of the day

enfeoffed

[olive sable]

kniipedia, what mean?

[tender river]

that almost reads like a hex number

[rough bloom]

enfe0ffed

n

[split steppe]

covfefe

[sick owl]

The 31b also suffers at such a low quant but it'll be way, way better than the MoE if you need to keep the entire model on your 4090

[sage crag]

its an investiture with power, estate, stipend, or title within a feudal government

[tender river]

[flint dome]

i vote bullshit on that word

[tender river]

unenfeoffed

[flint dome]

holy shit thats a real world

[olive sable]

hardware is 2x xeon 6138, 256gb of 2133mhz ram, and a 4090 on pcie 3.0 x16.
i want it to be able to swear, and type at least somewhat fast

[sage crag]

second word of the day

investiture

[split steppe]

fiefdoms

[olive sable]

vision would also be cool

[flint dome]

train an ai to say only "fuck" has only one neuron saying "fuck"

[sage crag]

its a formal conferrment of an authority

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

[flint dome]

one parameter

fuck

[tender river]

[olive sable]

its a normal gemma 4, but it uses MoE to swear

[sage crag]

lu

[flint dome]

"which slur in this context would max out the offensive the most and be closest to the eigenslur for this use case"

[tender river]

;

[olive sable]

i want it to swear, not say slurs

2 very different things

[split steppe]

we inverted an llm to find the most offensive words. the results will send you straight to literal hell. there is no way back, we tried.

[flint dome]

once you can swear you can slur

[olive sable]

not really

[flint dome]

so youre speaking from hell

[split steppe]

yes

[flint dome]

and once you can slur you can definetely swear

[sick owl]

The base model can already swear

Abliteration also nukes model performance

[split steppe]

the words we found offended god himself. also yea we discovered that god exists too

[split steppe]

i was hoping for the copypasta

[olive sable]

its very hesitant about it, but it is capable of doing so it seems. its using the not so bad ones.

[sick owl]

Also quite happy to do that

[flint dome]

i also tried with swearing at the model instead of getting it to swear and it seems light swears work and speed up performance but move to cursing bloodlines and slurs performance drops and it starts worrying more about pleasing the user and maintaining peace than working

[sick owl]

Unless you're roleplaying with the model (which isn't something I really want to aid in, gives me the ick) the base model is absolutely fine and not at all overly censored

[flint dome]

such a gentleman (ive seen some horrific shit said from chatgpt 4 and 3.5 bots on the internet)

[olive sable]

i don't think im allowed to show the evidence. it only used the word for the mentally disabled

[fickle rain]

IDK why people like roleplaying with soulless thoughtless machine

[olive sable]

cuz they're lonely i guess

idk

[flint dome]

bro i cant roleplay with a real person over chat roleplaying with a clanker is boring

[fickle rain]

What models do the role play places use anyway?

[olive sable]

[sick owl]

Why would youe ven want your model to say slurs

It might be funny once in an edgy 14 year old kind of way but there's no practical reason to make that a part of your daily driver model choice

[olive sable]

[flint dome]

no i swear at deepseek in cantonese to get it to speed up

occasional say slurs but that seems counterproductive to work

[olive sable]

[sick owl]

[olive sable]

wait, you're cantonese?

[fickle rain]

Maybe be nice to the soulless machine instead?

I mean you don’t swear at your computer right

(maybe some people do)

[opaque wharf]

Cantonese is not really a natioality

[olive sable]

its a region no?

[rigid snow]

it’s a language

[opaque wharf]

It's a language used from a certain region

[split steppe]

canton = region

[opaque wharf]

Or maybe dialect I guess

[olive sable]

its the region of the very first pokemon generation

[opaque wharf]

That's canto

[olive sable]

jester is ash ketchum

[rigid snow]

[sick owl]

I will say, you can see some quant degradation here

Okay hold up

Maybe if I tell to recite the original it'll do it without error

Okay yeah this quant is showing its limitations

Time to go one tier up

Wait no bf16 ends up reciting variations on it too tbf

That stray character is disconcerting though

[sage crag]

sam

[olive sable]

yes?

thats me

hi

[midnight sigil]

ton ton ton sahur

[olive sable]

[split steppe]

sahur my balls

https://tenor.com/hECtlde7dMn.gif

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

ur mom

[olive sable]

what about my mom?

[midnight sigil]

not yours

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

im adopted?

[midnight sigil]

[split steppe]

[olive sable]

[teal cipher]

now this is just cute lol https://puu.sh/KNOGF/1f90c613a0.png

[midnight sigil]

wha

[teal cipher]

I had a realization... I can have better website than my current mess...

so that's being cooked on lol

[olive sable]

your realization is you can improve your bad code?

[teal cipher]

my realization is that I should replace my website builder made site with better one

[midnight sigil]

time to React

[olive sable]

everything but react

[olive sable]

wouldnt this use 18GB of vram and then id have less context window?

[midnight sigil]

virtual dom maxing

[olive sable]

small typo

[olive sable]

excuse you? what?

[sick owl]

I can fit Q4_K_L at 32k F16 context

[olive sable]

uh

words please

[sick owl]

This is actually smaller than that

What I'm saying is you can fit at least 32k tokens worth of context on a 4090 with that model

[teal cipher]

codex feels smarter after global weekly reset but it might just be placebo effect

[midnight sigil]

virtual DOM maxing?

[olive sable]

tech people need to get better at naming shit

[silent cloak]

Too much effort for slop

Especially with a trillion different iterations

[flint dome]

tung tung tung deez nuts

[silent cloak]

Tripple T

[midnight sigil]

wuh does DOM have a different meaning

[olive sable]

i plead the 5th

[midnight sigil]

[olive sable]

dom stands for domain expansion

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-domain-expansion-jujutsu-kaisen-anime-gif-5048435362424443228

[midnight sigil]

oh now I get it

🥀

[flint dome]

i plead 5 buckshots into everyone's heads here

[midnight sigil]

I would take the fifth

[fickle rain]

Probably placebo

[split steppe]

you just became dumber

[silent cloak]

Honest truth

If u start relying too much

Ur not forced to think anymore so u dont

[midnight sigil]

time to use Terax

[fickle rain]

Or maybe they serve worse models depending on load, who knows

…how feasible is doing that?

[teal cipher]

as someone who overthinks at times... I'm still actively figuring out things regardless

[midnight sigil]

5 liters of water saved

[silent cloak]

Still a way to reduce the gray matter in ur head

[fickle rain]

I will drink them myself

[teal cipher]

my gray matter is busy learning various things... I agree when it comes to people that want to delegate actual thinking to systems without oversight that are worrying... like they're still figuring out how to get through schooling

[fast pagoda]

lotta people schizo that they serve worse and worse quants depending

there are also 3rd party providers that pretty much only serve quants

[silent cloak]

Honestly wouldnt be surprised

[opaque sigil]

https://marginlab.ai/#trackers

[silent cloak]

New gimick dropped

[kind nimbus]

New technical difficulty dropped

[loud sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAzT5lcezPs

guys PewDiePie just released a Self host ai

[sage crag]

sloptuber

[kind nimbus]

Good morning

#programming message

[patent shard]

first post of it

[silent cloak]

[loud sorrel]

yeah i just know it

[kind nimbus]

I'm not the only one having crackling audio output right

[loud sorrel]

still confused how to instal it

[patent shard]

vedal issues

[kind nimbus]

[patent shard]

DO NOT put the microphone in rice

[kind nimbus]

Lmao

Have you tried rice

[nocturne olive]

It sounds like the audio is skipping frames or something

[kind nimbus]

Bitrate mismatch?

[maiden geyser]

is this what the big audio want us to think

[patent shard]

why is my Twitch dying

[kind nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/drumming-everything-everything-big-climb-elevator-music-performing-gif-18621026

True elevator music

[leaden crest]

how did they get the drums in there

[silent cloak]

Could be the CPU

[kind nimbus]

Well that's a secret

[kind nimbus]

New cpu is too fast for the audio encoder so it skips hz

[leaden crest]

I decrypt it

[kind nimbus]

What's the password?

[split steppe]

the return of the turbo button

[leaden crest]

[kind nimbus]

Remember that time where suddenly games ran at 300% speed due to too fast clock speeds lmao

[silent cloak]

Had to increase my delay a bunch before on my ASIO

When mixing some big projects

[kind nimbus]

ASIO? wasn't that a windows thing ?

[silent cloak]

Its just a specialized audio driver

[kind nimbus]

Ah yew

Still not fixed

[patent shard]

I don't hear crackling

[nocturne olive]

I wonder what he changed

[half quail]

Yeah do you use Windows or Mac big projects lag so much I swear 😭

[nocturne olive]

[kind nimbus]

No but now there are pauses

[patent shard]

partially fixed mhm

[trim valve]

raaaaah

[kind nimbus]

See that's why Vedal need NixOS

If he used nix he had a frozen working state in his git tree and could revert any time

[trim valve]

I do not enjoy linux shenanegans

[harsh python]

And I’m here too

[trim valve]

I tried to fix my issues with an llm, claude is losing his shit

[half quail]

Honestly I had Linux mint, but playing games is a nightmare so I had to switch back 😂

[harsh python]

Claude could be a girl

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-home-lander-nao-no-gif-12606514540494555875

[kind nimbus]

Hm usually nowadays game compatibility is quite good

Are you having issues with a certain title? Online games with unsupported anti cheat are still causing issues.

[trim valve]

I swear steamvr hates me

[harsh python]

Claude could be the exception

But yeah no your right

[opaque wharf]

Same

That's why I use Arch

[trim valve]

i just wanna play beatsaber

[silent cloak]

Thats literally worse

[half quail]

Yeah exactly most DBD, marvel rivals and overwatch terrible for launcher support game would crash on boot up or take 10 years to load shaders. Tried to fix it, but every time they updated the game I'd have to wait a few weeks minimum.

[harsh python]

If I ever have a daughter I’m naming her Claude to spite you

[silent cloak]

For that issue

[kind nimbus]

I am never going back to arch

[silent cloak]

U have alot more bs u have to do

[opaque wharf]

I prefer perfectly documented BS than undocumented BS

[harsh python]

We should all use Hannah Montana Linux actaully

[kind nimbus]

I assume you already checked ProtonDB, AreWeAntiCheatYet and Github issues of Proton ?

[olive sable]

i never watched that

[silent cloak]

It aint worth the effort for ur average employed guy

[half quail]

As a Java programmer bs is my job

[silent cloak]

Real

And based

[harsh python]

Good point

That’s just how you exist

[opaque wharf]

Me when developing embedded system on windows:

[olive sable]

thats on you for doing java.
cant say much as a gamedev myself tho

[kind nimbus]

Do you wear glasses?

[silent cloak]

Plenty of other distros

[half quail]

Yes, but you'd usually have to wait for driver updates and that can take like 3 months depending on compatibility with Marvel Rivals I genuinely have nightmares from using Linux now 😭😭

[half quail]

No, but I probably should

[opaque wharf]

Yes, but how many of those has good documentation?

[kind nimbus]

I thought because you can't C#

[silent cloak]

Documentation isnt always needed if its built intuitive

Which arch isnt by nature

[opaque wharf]

"Built intuitive"

[half quail]

Haha no I've got C++ extra reach on that 😎

[kind nimbus]

Did i just hear windows system sounds lmao

Vedal still using windows confirmed

[patent shard]

and crackling is back

[opaque wharf]

This simple mfker has 2 interpretation

[kind nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1488900980253921320/1488901375223136297/neurogta.gif

[idle dune]

Bros

What the fuck happened to P40 prices

[olive sable]

up

up

up

[silent cloak]

Dated

[idle dune]

I swear they where like 100 bucks a little bit ago

[olive sable]

they were yep

[silent cloak]

The prices are only continuing to go up

[kind nimbus]

People found out you can get 24 gb vram for OpenClaw for cheap

[idle dune]

[silent cloak]

Seems pretty obvious to me

[idle dune]

Fucking OpenClaw

[silent cloak]

OpenFlaw

[split steppe]

wait aren't tesla cards like old

[olive sable]

we cant catch a break

[half quail]

The waifus are worth it

[idle dune]

Yes like over a decade old for some

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[harsh python]

Can we all agree computers are scary and ahhh

[split steppe]

why the hell is a card from 2016 $350+ now

[idle dune]

But they used to be cheap and decent enough for a budget home system

[split steppe]

yeesh

[olive sable]

your "AI waifu" is just selling your data to every company on planet earth to sell you skincare product

[silent cloak]

Did u miss the AI requirements increasing chip prices?

[trim valve]

ok so im now even more confused

I'm getting the steamvr hang screen

[idle dune]

No, I knew about that. But these where so old that they where 100 bucks for years.

[split steppe]

but imagine how glorious it will be when the ai bubble collapses the economy and you will be able to buy 20 gpus for a liter of water

[trim valve]

which I guess must be steaming over the network?

[silent cloak]

If it has a memory chip its going up in price

[maiden geyser]

the lion hopes it will be over one day

[harsh python]

Haha she would do that

What a little prankster

[half quail]

https://tenor.com/view/high-ground-obi-wan-gif-25596277

[olive sable]

actually, im in full support of ai waifus if it makes more people do self-hosting

[silent cloak]

Worst time to self host rn sadly

But i do encourage it

Especially as everything is all cloud now

Which is horrible

[idle dune]

It's faster cousin with half the ram is now the price it used to be

[opaque wharf]

Have you read arch wiki?

[olive sable]

i already have the hardware for running decent ai models, what could go wrong?

[harsh python]

I have 8GB of ram

[olive sable]

[harsh python]

So idk if I can host shit

[half quail]

You need more 😂😂😭😭

[olive sable]

no i dont

fuck it, how much is a 2nd 4090?

[silent cloak]

If it aint even deepseek levels then its not really even worth it

[opaque wharf]

I do. Now gimme your hardware. This is an online mogging

[harsh python]

Guys is 8GB of ram enough to run a sentient ai

[silent cloak]

Just a really expensive markov chain

[olive sable]

every computer on the planet isn't enough for sentient ai

[trim valve]

good point I forget the arch wiki exists

[harsh python]

But it has 8GB

[silent cloak]

Ur not gonna get ai sentience with a transformer model

[kind nimbus]

Fml

[olive sable]

you can have 8 trillion petabytes of ram, doesnt matter.
no sentient ai exists

[kind nimbus]

[half quail]

Feed my caffeine addiction

[idle dune]

I wonder if its worth just grabbing two P100s, thats 200 bucks before shipping and 32gb hbm2

[harsh python]

I think 8GB will be enough

[kind nimbus]

Why is Neuro now in Evils room

[stuck ocean]

And I don't think it ever will

[olive sable]

also, thats ram. how much vram you got?

[silent cloak]

2

[trim valve]

thats like

[half quail]

But you can mog on people with ur 8 trillion petabytes of ram

[stuck ocean]

😭 ✌️

[trim valve]

the worst arch wiki page ive ever seen

[idle dune]

The best people can do is smoke and mirrors it.

[olive sable]

mogging on people with ram you're not using is just sad

[nocturne olive]

The issue on-stream is probably a Windows update

[kind nimbus]

Fml

[split steppe]

one day i will create an agi, yall will see

[kind nimbus]

That does not explain why Neuro is suddenly in Evils room tho

[fiery canopy]

wouldn't be suprising

[fiery canopy]

windows corrupted the files

in the update

[opaque wharf]

Speaks volume to how supported VR is on linux

[fiery canopy]

and failed

[kind nimbus]

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-meme-buzz-year-copy-meme-gif-4668439001950303425

[half quail]

No, but you might pull a real girl

[nocturne olive]

That's on Ved, but the audio is definitely on Windows

[harsh python]

6GB I think

[kind nimbus]

I still don't understand why he does not already has switched to Linux

[fiery canopy]

with the rewrite windows is like alot less necosary

[olive sable]

girls dont care about unused ram. unused ram is peak impotence

[split steppe]

cuz he wants to able to play games

[olive sable]

is neuro running on the server now?

[teal cipher]

I thought my sound system was breaking

[fiery canopy]

don't think so yet

[rough bloom]

still on old PC

[kind nimbus]

There are also good games that work on Linux

[nocturne olive]

Because Ved stoopid and hasn't seen how obviously required it is

[fiery canopy]

this tbf

[opaque wharf]

LMAO

Technical Difficulty

[kind nimbus]

Lol

[fiery canopy]

all neuro / evil games work natively or very well under proton

lol

[harsh python]

Guys is 6GB or vram good enough

[silent cloak]

I always pushed for native linux releases when i was working as a game dev

[stuck ocean]

Depends on what u need it for

[silent cloak]

(No mac tho fuck them)

[fiery canopy]

valid

[rough bloom]

good enough for what

[kind nimbus]

Almost everything runs on proton these days except some MMOs or other anti cheat games

[stuck ocean]

W

[harsh python]

Running my ai child

[half quail]

But it's omega and girls love to omega on these nuts

[fiery canopy]

and neuro cant run under AC games anyways, because of reasons. And VRC is an exception which they are already allowed for anyways 💀

[rough bloom]

then no, probably not

[nocturne olive]

Gaming? If you go a few years old or don't play UE5 games
ML? Absolutely not really

[kind nimbus]

So there is literally no reason to stay on windows

[fiery canopy]

yep

[silent cloak]

If u play modern UE slop then good luck

[fiery canopy]

VRC also does work natively and just runs AC in user mode

so

even if that was a thing

[stuck ocean]

U can run like sum 6b models I think idk much Abt ai

[fiery canopy]

dosent matter

[silent cloak]

Client side anticheats

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-angry-scare-gif-5183071

[fiery canopy]

WE are not getting back into the AC debate today lmfao

[rough bloom]

there is a reason
compat layer makes everything more complicated

[fiery canopy]

we are making fun of ved for being on windows

[kind nimbus]

That should work via Proton as well

[olive sable]

believe me, as someone with 320GB of ram, girls really dont care

[fiery canopy]

VRC has a native Linux build from wat I know

[rough bloom]

being technically feasible does not automatically make it a good idea

[stuck ocean]

TF U MEAN 320GIGA BYTES OF RAM

WHAAA

[nocturne olive]

Just change today's stream to a "Switching to Linux" surprise stream instead

[kind nimbus]

Lol even better

[stuck ocean]

DAS LIKE BILLIONS

[fiery canopy]

ong

[silent cloak]

U guys saw him build a server

Do u really wanna watch him try linux

[fiery canopy]

tbf he can do software atleast semi competnetly

Atleas

tsemi

He managed ot make neuro

[olive sable]

it was like 100 euro

[nocturne olive]

At least he's better with software

[kind nimbus]

Lmao any mod pls do that

[fiery canopy]

ong

[silent cloak]

Opens every port to public

[fiery canopy]

😭

[nocturne olive]

Switching to Linux now required for Neuro streams

[stuck ocean]

Gotta port forward telnet

[olive sable]

linux

[fiery canopy]

with recent windows update yes tbh

[opaque wharf]

Best stream ever

[nocturne olive]

Something with a recent Windows update must have messed up something critical

[rough bloom]

#programming try not to blame everything on Windows even when the issue is completely unknown (impossible challenge)

[fiery canopy]

windows is nearly always the random issue

statisitically

I cant spell

[snow flicker]

yeah

[olive sable]

no lol

[fiery canopy]

trust

ong

totally

Most accurate stats ever seen

[kind nimbus]

How much percent do we bet it's windows fault ?

[fiery canopy]

I want a gamba pool

tnow

[snow flicker]

101%

[olive sable]

the reason linux fixes the issues is cuz you're forced to use a different app on linux

cuz nothing supports linux

[stuck ocean]

Microsoft litrally fucked up notepad and had an rce in it so YES I WILL BLAME WINDOWS FOR EVEYTHING

[opaque wharf]

Not really

[olive sable]

im exaggerating, but the motherfuckers at adobe grrrr

[kind nimbus]

Lmao i love RCEs

[nocturne olive]

As long as Ved keeps for whatever reason using Winslop we will continue to blame major unsolvable issues like this to him using Windows

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, mostly adobe. Funnily enough, Fusion360 works

[half quail]

On Tinder I said I have 160GB of ram and she sent me a winkie emoji

[opaque wharf]

But also, Affinity Studio\

[fiery canopy]

tbf if Neuro SDK just works by opening a port / web socket connection with the SDK or watevr, [I am not familiar at all with the SDK], it shouldn't be that hard to work under proton either way

[olive sable]

source?

[kind nimbus]

[rough bloom]

calling that one an "RCE" is certainly a choice
it allowed links with protocols other than HTTP, that was the whole issue

[stuck ocean]

I would sell mah soul for sum 8gig ddr5

[nocturne olive]

Should be basically plug and play no?

[fiery canopy]

ye

cas

proton allows for that

with config if not by defualt

I would be sure

[olive sable]

you're asking for too much. the real value is at ddr4 ecc

[stuck ocean]

😔

[fiery canopy]

audio is still cooked

its so jover

[snow flicker]

still crunchy

[kind nimbus]

SSRF?

file:///etc/passwd and funny gopher:// chains have entered the chat

[fiery canopy]

well

[snow flicker]

bru what

[fiery canopy]

evil isnt cooked

ig

[opaque wharf]

Alright, this is probably not windows issue

[fiery canopy]

ye

this sounds like ved

[snow flicker]

Neuro has sore throat

[fiery canopy]

issue

[fiery canopy]

ong

[opaque wharf]

EVIL STREAM

[half quail]

Same it's built like gundam makes my pants go flying

[kind nimbus]

Lol my stream was stuck on twitch offline screen

[opaque wharf]

EVIL STREAM

[fiery canopy]

I will still say it was windows, windows just corrupted neuro trust ong. totally, windows causes all the issues trust me bro

[snow flicker]

vedal gonna write his own OS for Neuro

[kind nimbus]

Oh no

Please don't

Issue again

Fml

[split steppe]

new server seems to be working well

[fiery canopy]

this aint even on server yet

if a message he sent the other day is to believed

[opaque wharf]

I do wonder what is the cause if Evil isn't scuffed

[half quail]

Nah I'd win. Dms are open cash in hand or sloppy toppy

[rough bloom]

yeah pretty much, except the server is notepad
so you could access any protocols that some random app registered, like the steam:// one registered by Steam
so I guess you could open the calculator or make Steam download a game when you click on a link
incredible RCE

[split steppe]

neuro's got that nervous tick of someone about to be transferred to a new server

[snow flicker]

wait

[nocturne olive]

Wait what, was the Ebil run a test to see if a fix worked?

[kind nimbus]

Funny

[opaque wharf]

No, most likely to test if Evil is also broken

[olive sable]

keep it at least somewhat PG13

[fiery canopy]

maybe a sanity check tbh

??

[nocturne olive]

It's still borked

[opaque wharf]

Poor neuro tho

[fiery canopy]

yep

[snow flicker]

crunch is gone but she is stuttering

[opaque wharf]

L word

L*tency

[fiery canopy]

I need a higaruma gif, but with ved

would be so peak and perfect for rn

[snow flicker]

chechk #livestream-chat

its there

[fiery canopy]

there is

LETS FUCKING GO

[kind nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1486449411897823522/shewasraisedbybirds.gif

[fiery canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1489341801130098738/facepalm_vedal.gif

[snow flicker]

he fixed it?

[fiery canopy]

it seems no longer cooked

maybe

it just feels off tho

[wispy pike]

what did this come from btw