programming

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

I said i will destroy you

Not eat you

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

My honest reaction

To this information

[olive sable]

[maiden geyser]

#baking goonslop situation is insane

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

MY MODEL IS NOT GOONSLOP

How am i goonslop?????

[opaque wharf]

You'll love rust trait

[stark needle]

✅

[opaque sigil]

it makes life so much easier, if only it wasn't a gnu extension...

[opaque wharf]

What do you mean makes life easier

[tender river]

it does

[opaque wharf]

I dislike the inconsistency

[tender river]

let x = if n == 5 { 1 } else { 2 };

theres no inconsistency

it consistent

return is a separate thing

[maiden geyser]

the python's one better thoughbeit

[stark needle]

It's not overkill cause remote management via helm is good

[opaque wharf]

Naah, you're tripping

[stark needle]

And u handle the whole preemption/scheduling/versioning

[opaque wharf]

I remote managed via ssh

[maiden geyser]

x = n1 if cond1 else n2

how is this bad?

[stark needle]

Ok but not scalable and technical debt

[opaque wharf]

Ye, but as I said, for SME is overkill

[stark needle]

If u ever get a second device ur fucked

[opaque sigil]

sometimes you want to do a bit of prep work when assigning a value and this lets you do that without having to make an annoying new function

[opaque wharf]

It is bad because the condition is after the value

[stark needle]

I work at a mid sized enterprise we don't just have 1 single vps

[opaque wharf]

Naaah, make one line function

[stark needle]

Maybe if u just need a static site or whatever then fine

[maiden geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1062124810433474682/1178372574481219755/melon.gif

[stark needle]

But that can be done SaaS

[maiden geyser]

genuinely

[opaque sigil]

no can do

[opaque wharf]

Yeah but what is the use cases? Internal tooling or the product? If it is the product, especially SaaS, then it make sense. But if its internal tooling, not so much

[stark needle]

Ok tbf we also have a ton of data tho

[olive sable]

does it not have the ? operator?

[opaque wharf]

Exactly

[stark needle]

Ig depends on what the product is

[opaque wharf]

Nope

That's how python do ternary

[opaque wharf]

Functional programming people when making function

[opaque sigil]

did i show you my try/unwrap macros, you just cannot do that with a separate function

but yeah

blocks being expressions does make things more consistent, no need for special one-off syntactic sugar

[midnight sigil]

Rust belike:

...!
...?
...?
...;
...

[olive sable]

i odnt think i can make this 5950x go any faster

voltage curve is at -25,a nd pbo is set to mobo limit

only thing that could improve temps is the PTM phasesheet thinning out

[reef ingot]

Peack engeering

[karmic birch]

water cooling?

[olive sable]

Nah, nh-d15

Watercooling would prob improve it a bit until the loop gets saturated

i imagine only way to max it out more with the current hardware would be per core curve optimizer

[opaque wharf]

You can also do evaporative water cooling

[rigid snow]

you can also djgshshshshh hdgahshsh skdfddhdddsdd

[olive sable]

highest ive seen it do is 132W with 4560MHz on all core until the temp went up too far

[rigid snow]

[opaque sigil]

try NIXPKGS_ALLOW_UNFREE=1 nix run nixpkgs#mprime --impure

(prime95 cli)

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

i guess there's y-cruncher too, more avx focused

[olive sable]

makes discord lag lmao. breefly went to 4.6GHz.

[opaque sigil]

they don't call it a torture test for no reason

[olive sable]

actually some of the cores seem to jsut go to 4600 on occasion with that benchmark

even at 89C

i should change my fan layout

[opaque wharf]

That means the program does its jobs splendidly

[split steppe]

you probably need to switch to watercooling at this point

[mighty crescent]

[split steppe]

89c means you're throttled again

[olive sable]

ye i know

[opaque sigil]

idk if an nh-d15 can handle an oc'd 5950X but it handles my 5900X just fine at keeping it below 80C

at 150W

[olive sable]

hmmm

[opaque sigil]

if yours only draws 130W i think there might be a different problem

[split steppe]

maybe repaste and change ur fan curve again

[split steppe]

hes at thermal limit so imo that's the only problem

it's not going to draw more than it can cool

[olive sable]

i only jsut installed PTM phasesheet, and the fan curvs are set to fully max

[opaque sigil]

how many case fans do you have

i do have 3 140mm intakes

[olive sable]

as in, it doesnt look at temps and jsut does full power

[opaque sigil]

true, that's probably it

[split steppe]

yeah your cooling ig needs improvement then

[olive sable]

all of them are the standart 120mm size. 3 front intake, 1 rear eaxhaust, 2 top exhaust. but i think i shoudl make the top at the front intake

[trim valve]

I thought it was 95?

I feel like I've said this before and been wrong tho

mine definitely throttles at 95 but it's newer

[opaque sigil]

Tdie: +77.5°C (high = +95.0°C) it'd be this right

[olive sable]

i would consider the air coming out my pc barely warm, and the nh-d15 itself is also barely hot

but i def removed all the peels

[opaque sigil]

if you have all fans running at max speed then something is definitely wrong

[split steppe]

it'll start throttling well before that in various ways

[opaque sigil]

cpu and case fan speeds while running mprime for context at a chill 79 degrees

[olive sable]

This what the prm looks like rn

Seems fine

The litle holes are left on the cpu

[opaque sigil]

idk i've never used that stuff

[split steppe]

hmm, looks fine i suppose

[opaque sigil]

also thanks sam for giving me a reason to look into why my motherboard wouldn't be picked up by sensors

[split steppe]

altho the paste looks maybe a little thick, is the cooler fully pressurized?

[olive sable]

The screw hit the bottom when u screw it in

And i am using the gray spacers you need for am4

Also, i didnt rip the cpu off this time

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1425445907586879530/1507983441893789827/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_1.gif

[olive sable]

I should just put my cpu right infront of the AC

[opaque wharf]

I wish we have a better CPU mounting mechanism

[opaque wharf]

You do not want to do that. It risks condensation

[opaque sigil]

nothing a bit of vaseline can't fix

[tender river]

i watched the iris video

m

[olive sable]

Ill try flipping that top right exhaust into an intake

[tender river]

i think if you allow moving blocks, you have to have a full on minecraft simulation, moving blocks is like modifying the program while it's running

if you don't, it should be aot translatable

[sage crag]

i dont think you need a full minecraft simulation for moving blocks

you can do it partially

but there are a lot of things that have block states that interact in odd ways

so its essentially a partial simulation unless you only use primitive redstone components

[tender river]

well, "full enough", you dont need mobs but slime blocks and pistons are way too funky and have infinite potential states

[sage crag]

infinite global states but not infinite local states

[olive sable]

To simulate piston one must simulate a door

[sage crag]

so a full simulation can be avoided by considering just the machine

[tender river]

except the part where they can modify other parts of the program

[sage crag]

no, its still a state machine

valid states move to valid states

[tender river]

it is but, pain to compile

[sage crag]

pain to compile not point

possible to compile is point

make a million unit tests and ask chatgpt to do it for you

https://tenor.com/view/botan-kamiina-fully-blossoms-when-drunk-kamiina-botan-yoeru-sugata-wa-yuri-no-hana-ibuki-tonami-ibuki-hiccups-gif-7457530130300416653

[tender river]

you are chatgpt

[sage crag]

i think its technically possible to do as a cellular automata

not sure how to prove that

[tender river]

would be tricky since pistons have nonlocal effects

(moving block stack)

[sage crag]

pistons only modify adjacent blocks

but

[pastel lodge]

The video's out

[olive sable]

I see

[sage crag]

its difficult to propagate in cellular automata

[tender river]

isnt redstone also immovable

that surely simplifies things a bit

[sage crag]

technically no

if you suppress block updates during the piston push you can move it

i think

otherwise, it breaks

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aQH0PPBQMZs

[tender river]

[opaque wharf]

Not possible in normal gameplay

[olive sable]

https://technical-minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Tick#Order_of_updates
I wonder if this is still correct

[opaque wharf]

But also, supressing block update would mean no redstone

[sage crag]

not true

[olive sable]

There are glitches to do it. Or bedrock

[sage crag]

redstone update separate to block update

redstone ticks 10 times a second and world ticks 20 times a second

[trim valve]

redstone block

[olive sable]

Redstone ticks also has subticks and its a whole mess

[opaque wharf]

This is cursed knowledge

[tender river]

also uh

chunks

[sage crag]

ye locality is

standard minecraft

[olive sable]

discord mobile bad, cant see

Oh, only the preview was 144p

[tender river]

oh food right

i peeled potatoes during konii stream

forgot to actually cook them

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

The problem is trying to research update order brings you to a 10y/o ilmango video so you dont have any of the new restone features included in the list

[sage crag]

another nosebleed

[olive sable]

i had one yesterday

[sage crag]

ive had 2 today

[olive sable]

headphones hinge cracked again

need to solder another staple into it

[rich oak]

hi

[olive sable]

hi

[olive sable]

damn you sony and your cheap recycled plastic
this shit is barely ABS, its more brittle than PLA

[rich oak]

maybe this thing doesnt add up with a programming but...

i know ive fucked up

[opaque wharf]

If you're soldering anyway, why not melt/fuse the plastic again?

[olive sable]

im doing that, but putting a staple into it for structurl support

[olive sable]

since if i jsut melt the platic toghether again it will be jsut as weak as before

[olive sable]

stripped screw?

[rich oak]

yep damaged groove

and its mini pc

[opaque wharf]

At that point you're better off putting an actual metal core where the plastic just become a shroud

[olive sable]

hmm

[olive sable]

you either break the plastic or carve a groove into the screw's metal for a flathead

[rich oak]

hm i havent tried that method yet

[flint dome]

acetone weld it or if youre unhinged use solder to join it together

[rich oak]

seems risky but maybe.. it could help

[flint dome]

buy tamiya extra thin for 10$ and weld plastic much better

less smell than acetone

[rich oak]

i have tried various method told by gpt, including rubber band, hot glue, and flathead screwdriver

i had fed up this weekend, not knowing wtf is goin on with the pc

[flint dome]

actually for abs id rather recommend epoxy and glue or superglue and baking soda

[tender river]

mug

apparently allergies are a risk factor

[kind nimbus]

Since when does Windows has sudo

[flint dome]

prob go with option one or specialized tamiya cement for abs aka bluecaps

[rich oak]

talk about sudo, heck should i try changing to linux? Window update are kinda sus lately, since when i updated the window last weekend, suddenly my pc freeze and cannot be recovered automatically

[olive sable]

fuck it, im 3D printing a replacement part for thi shitty headphone plastic

im not throwing away a headset cuz sony cant make good plastic

[opaque wharf]

https://fxtwitter.com/ObviousRises/status/2060477466591088921

MR. OBVIOUS (@ObviousRises)

AI integrated at the OS hardware level (you can't turn it off) also it mines 10% of your CPU at all times to run an 'AI data center' botnet, in return copilot spies on you and reports you to authorities for wrongthink.
︀︀
︀︀AKA Windows 12.

Quoting selina is ᐸcuteᐳ and ᐸpopᐳ (@inkblotPrincess)
︀
we're about to see the worst announcement of all time

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FxTwitter · May 29, 2026, 9:44 PM

[rich oak]

the time has come huh, well im looking forward of the hyprland since im not really good at coding yet

[opaque wharf]

Maybe consider KDE then unless you really want to learn more seriously

[opaque wharf]

Btw this is a speculation from the vague post by both nvidia and microsoft

Nothing is certain yet

[rich oak]

roger that, well it doesnt hurt to make a preparation.

[olive sable]

[kind nimbus]

does all software you need run good on Linux?

does all your hardware work on Linux without issues?

are you willing to learn Linux?

if the answer is "yes" to all those questions then you should probably switch to Linux

i only keep a windows 11 vm on my server around if i sometimes really require Windows only software and for iTunes lol

[rich oak]

you make it looks like some kind of new dimension But anyway youre right maybe i have to consider it a bit longer before decide

[cosmic sphinx]

"no need for any components anymore, your OS will now be fully generated by an AI"

[fickle rain]

It’s obviously NVIDIA N1/N1x announcement

[opaque wharf]

Honestly, the biggest hurdle is usually windows only software

[fickle rain]

Stop FUD

[opaque wharf]

You have not experienced pain until you are forced to use some random chinese software to develop a GUI for HMI

[rich oak]

unless its neuro, its kinda a bit scared for ai to control without any consent

[kind nimbus]

thats why i said to make sure all software you need runs on linux before consider switching

because if not this wont end good if suddenly you realize you need something that does not work on linux

or keep a vm around for these occasions like i do

[rich oak]

i cant imagine the pain

[cosmic sphinx]

dawg no way

[opaque wharf]

Same. VM ftw. I'd take the performance penalty anytime over installing windows bare metal

[cosmic sphinx]

now we just wait for intel to jump in 😂

[opaque sigil]

gb10 runs on arm, surprise surprise

[kind nimbus]

pro tip if you use KVM you can bypass a spare GPU into the VM via VFIO if your hardware does proper IOMMU grouping then all the perf panelty and gpu acceleration issues are gone

just keep in mind your host cannot use that gpu anymore then.

[opaque wharf]

Can't do that on a laptop tho

[kind nimbus]

you can if your laptop has a dgpu and supports IOMMU

i think mine does

but i wanna use the dgpu on my host system

[opaque wharf]

Only iGPU for me

[kind nimbus]

ah i have a 5070 Ti in my laptop but i need that for gaming

[opaque wharf]

My next laptop is definitely the framework

[kind nimbus]

i was considering a framework 16 as well but the hardware was too weak for my preferences

my current laptop has way more power

[opaque wharf]

Fair point. Meanwhile it would be an upgrade for me. I just wished they managed to make 13" with dGPU

But I know that's just a dream

[rich oak]

WE need Neuro os immediately, dont you agree?

[kind nimbus]

yup but now i got a Core Ultra 9 275HX with 24 cores, RTX 5070 Ti with 12GB vram and a nice 16" 1600p 300Hz panel in this bad boy all in a hefty metal enclosure.

[opaque wharf]

Damn, djikstra quote from veritasium latest video hits deep

"At the end of the day, it is the programmer that is held accountable, not the machine"

[real sierra]

intel ain't part of any new PC era 💀

lets keep it a buck

[opaque wharf]

Until suddenly they tweet it too due to them being the foundry

[glass jetty]

happy birthday @real sierra

[real sierra]

no u

[sage crag]

@real sierra mods

ban this person

[real sierra]

I've just submitted the paperwork to legally change your date of birth to may 30th

[rich oak]

Well, sure enough i have to go to any repair shop instead of depends on AI to give me an instructions. Though its hard to find any trustworthy repairmen nowaday . Maybe i really have to open up a conversation to make a connection instead of being an introvert

[sage crag]

purple username in banana chat

[real sierra]

what if purple banana

[glass jetty]

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

youre on thin ice

[glass jetty]

[real sierra]

like a banana split

[sage crag]

[opaque wharf]

Now I want banana smoothie

[olive sable]

same

[opaque wharf]

Welp, time to make some

[real sierra]

they want to blender the banana

[flint dome]

I want a cold drink

im dying

[real sierra]

konii attack

[flint dome]

cleaning the toilets in heat is not fun

[opaque wharf]

I will put mayonnaise in the smoothie just to spite you

[olive sable]

had to restart the print, filament cord broke in half somehow

[opaque wharf]

Brittle filament is a sign of them absorbing moisture

[olive sable]

hmmm

[opaque wharf]

Or they could be too dry as well

[flint dome]

i have made the terrible decision of buying an fpga without the carrier board and solely operating off the onboard jtag port

[olive sable]

it has been sitting there for the last 2 months, i dont have a drying chamber or anything

[sage crag]

ye

[opaque wharf]

Welp, good luck with that shouldn't be too bad tho because jtag can be used to monitor things to certain extent

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

[opaque wharf]

Yea, that would do it

[olive sable]

i do have a filament runout sensor, but i never got the firmware for it to work

[flint dome]

I also found something that somehow manages to even beat the chinese at their game

https://store.vicharak.in/?product=shrike

1.2k LUTs and an arm core at only 4$

[glass jetty]

guys
want opinion on current flow, cuz i think it kinda cursed a bit:

• i sick of trying to use same socket for control and data
• want to use two-sockets protocol
• already have control msgs and data socket functions
• relatively strong typed stages for socket
  question: how cursed is this shit, and how to make it better:
  -# prob should commit it to git
  i have one entry point, not want to open two ports at all

//* 1. client connect -> socket created
//* -> if server receive second socket packet, current socket wake control socket, 
//*      and added into his structure

but that kinda looks f*ed:

pub enum StagesSS{ // server side
    NotAes(tokio::net::TcpStream), //? control socket only
    NotLogin(ControlSocket), //? branched to either wait for second, or to second socket
    ToSecondSocket(SecondSocketData), //? basically to this  ^^^^^^
    WaitingForSecondSocket(ClientData), //? or to this...
    //* optional is implicit for now
}

-# i probably will change enum to stronger type
here from no login, it may go to both to second and wait for second stages:
// so from first created

pub async fn wait_login_and_gen_ip(mut self,
        allowed_logins : &Vec<String>
        )->Option<StagesSS> //? waiting for second socket
    {
 ///...
  // todo, replace with branching to second socket
        let ProtocolMsg::LoginMsg(login) = msg else{
            crite(clt::Auth) << cll::Error << "found wrong protocol msg" << cend;
            return None;
        };
 ///...

it will be something like

pub async fn wait_login_and_gen_ip_or_receive_second_socket(mut self,
        allowed_logins : &Vec<String>
        )->Option<StagesSS> //? return waiting for second socket, or return second socket itself
    {

[opaque wharf]

Damn, RP2040 paired with FPGA

[glass jetty]

or, with stronger type:

pub async fn wait_login_and_gen_ip_or_receive_second_socket(mut self,
        allowed_logins : &Vec<String>
        )->Option<WaitSecondSocketOrSecondSocker> //? also enum, but now for two variants that...
    {

f*ck

wait, how

i not see error

[olive sable]

[flint dome]

yeah, very interesting pairing and surprisingly extremely cheap

given our export charges are basically nonexistent because our government prefers export over import it should be cheap for you too (not including the atrocious shipping as usual)

[opaque wharf]

My guess would be because India actually have a good foundry for simple enough mcu

[glass jetty]

wtf

guys
where markdown error?

omg, discord...

i fixed

[flint dome]

hmm we only do 180nm and 28nm starts this year end with 7nm starting 28

[glass jetty]

so, what do you think? how to make it sane without additional listener?

https://charaverk.online/git/CharaVerKys/vpverst/src/branch/master/vpverst_protocol/src/controlsocket.rs

[opaque wharf]

I believe that is good enough for MCU but lemme actually check

[flint dome]

no rp2040 is 40nm tsmc

[opaque wharf]

Correct. RP2040 is 40nm

[flint dome]

I'm guessing its cheaper here because of all the massive vc funding pouring in for electronics and a large assembly hub for electronics as well

[kind nimbus]

[opaque wharf]

Yeah. Which is a good industry to be funded IMHO compared to software

Software companies always look for ways to enshittify eventually

It is a bit harder to do for hardware

[silent cloak]

Mostly publically traded ones

[opaque wharf]

The barrier to enshittify means you need to do the rnd, buy raw materials, add production line, all the way until the distribution

Software enshittification is just a few clicks away

[flint dome]

if you can enshittify hardware and still sell it is it really enshittifying or just making the cheaper version of your product

[opaque wharf]

Have you not seen what intel do when they hold a monopoly due to amd being garbage?

[silent cloak]

The 5000 series

[opaque wharf]

That too

[silent cloak]

I9 also had the status too for the longest time

[flint dome]

.... fair point. I am corrected it seems

[silent cloak]

Just lie using marketing

Its the modern method

[flint dome]

literally plot armor

[silent cloak]

Nvidia does it, anthropic does it, many more

Reputation doesnt matter in the publically traded world

[glass jetty]

#baking

[flint dome]

where cake

where cake

where cake

where cake

[silent cloak]

Its a lie

[flint dome]

where cake

[opaque sigil]

[split steppe]

Claude, where is all my data!

you are absolutely right, i deleted your production database

[silent cloak]

I love that line

Truly peak LLM

[opaque wharf]

Meanwhile "Open"AI

[glass jetty]

can we

not talk

about ai

for a minute

meow

[true hemlock]

im glad all my 8 I9 cpus are like gotten for dirt cheap

13900K cheapest being at $90 but bundled with 7500f, 1060 3gb, and a 550w psu

supposedly faulty because missing smd caps but then i just resolder it and it works

[opaque wharf]

Those are whole ass PC

[true hemlock]

13950HX es second cheapest at $150

actually no

wait

the cheapest is technically my 12900 es

$60

working

then my beloved 13900 es, that can survive at only 0.9w draw with tuning and undervolt like crazy, $182

[true hemlock]

got em from repair shop so technically faulty but i fixed them all

also 13980HX and 14900HX, both are modt board combo, at $300 each

wait there's also my 14900ks that was sold to me by an overclocker that only used it to hit 8.8 GHz for like $185

all these chips working btw

i don't need to spend $450 to $600 for a damn raptorlake i9

and have all these chips perform similarly to the retail i9

well except for 12900 es but its close enough to its alderlake counterpart but def not raptorlake

ngl i should collect all the flagship cpus from each generation

already got intel 12th to 14th

got both the am5 aswell, 7950x es and 9950x es (using it rn as my daily pc)

not am4 though my best is 5700g i got for dirt cheap

best zen3 is that

best zen2 is 3700x

unless if you count the threadripper 3990x

i got most i7 from 2th to 8th gen already apparently

i need to hunt for the damn 5950x

wonder if i can just find a working ref of es

[fickle rain]

Secondhand 5950X nonexistent here too :(

[olive sable]

they're like 150-200 here

[opaque wharf]

Y'know, vedal has said he has an interest in making robot body for neuro

If his server building stream went the way it is...

Imagine the robot body building stream

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/sSg8QiXTgB8.gif

[opaque wharf]

Legit I think I'll leave discord for a bit without watching the stream again

[olive sable]

[flint dome]

best to do that ourselves before he gets to it.....

wait that reminds me i forgot i need to work on neurobot

genuinely fried memory

[kind nimbus]

Uh this is a tight fit

But it fits

[frozen igloo]

He should put motorized wheels on the server so Neuro can roll around lol

[kind nimbus]

Didn't Vedal already had that idea ?

[frozen igloo]

I don’t remember

It has castor wheels which can’t really be motorized I don’t think

[opaque wharf]

I don't think his idea is motorized server

But that the server is on wheels

[opaque wharf]

Ye, castor wheel is only useful to keep the balance in a motorized wheel system. Like when you make DDMR

[kind nimbus]

Yea thats what I meant

[opaque wharf]

Y'know what, I think it would be easy enough to do for vedal

[olive sable]

the rams ticks being offset liek that is hilarious.
what gpu is that?

[silent cloak]

Snake oil is its own thing

[opaque wharf]

Like genuinely, a portable battery system is now commercially available and the motor needed for such a project wouldn't be too hard to find

[silent cloak]

Vedal has gotten that a billion times

I guess he just doesn't want to build one

[olive sable]

https://youtu.be/qpFle38mkPw?t=2044

[silent cloak]

[opaque wharf]

True, because it does involve modifying the case a bit which may be hard to do for someone without experience

Wait, or he could make a platform for it

[silent cloak]

Also a server on wheels is overkill

And a great way to get robbed

Thats like pushing around a cart of gold

[opaque wharf]

If only just for the RAM

[silent cloak]

GPU

[opaque wharf]

Naah, GPU is only 1 part. The RAM has like what? 8?

Oh wait, it is 4 is it?

[silent cloak]

Its the memory chips they want

The GPU is 100% the target

[teal cipher]

I just love codex of being like... "maybe I do suggested implementation method if needed... let me anyway look solutions user didn't instruct for..."

[olive sable]

the server build video on the neuro yt channel doesnt include the list smh

[idle dune]

Waiting for a good VR headset to come out tha doesn't require some social media log in trash

[olive sable]

i think most dont require that, only the quests

[idle dune]

Vedal.ai astroturfing the narrative

[olive sable]

not even the rift needs a login

[idle dune]

https://giphy.com/gifs/big-brother-1984-is-watching-jjodKUUt92I7IKISL5

[flint dome]

fuck verilog

fuck verilog

fuck verilog

fuck verilog

fuck verilog

fuck verilog

fuck verilog

[teal cipher]

so... let's render each card as three times because fallback systems... them all doing it the same time... and let's wonder why performance is bad in-game XD

[olive sable]

render each card as three times?

[flint dome]

[teal cipher]

so... it's sound idea to have simple placeholder cards without good graphics before assets are loaded in to replace them... but no... turns out codex in its infinite wisdom had decided to keep redundant code active just taking resources... so you have fallback, one method to piece together cards, another method to do cards top of it... rendered each tick... in web based game...

[olive sable]

what are you trying to do?
multi gpu rendering in web?

[opaque sigil]

not graphics card

[olive sable]

oh, card as in its a card game?

[opaque sigil]

presumably

[flint dome]

ai and garbage cleaning is nonexistent

you have to scream at it like a toxic indian mid level manager to get it to write you a very shit gc

it doesnt understand the concept of flushing your poopy after doing it

[teal cipher]

I actually pretended to be angry boss and told it to recheck code and stuff... optimize, etc... seems like it's doing actual fixes... re-examining code

[flint dome]

chatgpt maybe works if you behave like an indian manager.... but deepseek seems to work best when you swear at it in mandarin or cantonese

though it fails after you begin to use slurs or insult its bloodline

50/50

[opaque sigil]

the newer models don't work as well when you yell at them since they'll start getting sassy/emulate performance anxiety

[teal cipher]

I don't want to be rude... even though I know it's a system... anyway... my spring neko crystal heists card game is getting better https://puu.sh/KNLUD/289fa15ed7.png

[flint dome]

what

i keep finding interesting fellas in genchat

[fickle rain]

No, fuck Canonical, their job applications are some bullshit

Fuck you mean my math grades in high school?

[teal cipher]

I remember when companies had issues with LLM getting lazy on christmas... supposedly due they recognize it was christmas... and around that... if they had that context

acting like being on holidays asking to come to work

[olive sable]

this is a bunch of spaghetti. Wtf sony

[trim valve]

idk looks pretty clean

[olive sable]

i have to remove every single cable from the 20 pin connector, and then rpelace the plastic it goes through, and then put all of them back into the connector plastic

[flint dome]

thats standard behaviour

[trim valve]

what why

[flint dome]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[trim valve]

can't you just stuff the 20pin through the plastic

[olive sable]

nope, too big

[flint dome]

make hole

[trim valve]

even if you rotate it?

[olive sable]

ye

actually, i dont have to if i just cut the old plastic off

its broken anyways

[uncut panther]

󠄀 what is that

[olive sable]

thatas the 20 pin thingy going to the other side

[uncut panther]

cursed

[olive sable]

[uncut panther]

you forgot to use tape here

[olive sable]

thats the shit that broke hence im rpelacing the entire plastic

[uncut panther]

just use tape

[olive sable]

no, too thin, would just bend

[uncut panther]

400$ headphones btw

thanks apple for good materials

[uncut panther]

just use MORE

󠄀

[olive sable]

no

it jsut bedns

andd then the anc doesnt seal properly

[opaque wharf]

My bet is the anc won't work as well too with your custom print

[olive sable]

nah it should be fine

[opaque wharf]

It will work don't get me wrong. But not as good as it used to be

[opaque wharf]

https://www.st.com/resource/en/application_note/an4427-gasket-design-for-optimal-acoustic-performance-in-mems-microphones-stmicroelectronics.pdf

[rigid snow]

serverless

[opaque wharf]

I will add server to your serverless

[rigid snow]

despite the name serverless already has servers

[olive sable]

you suck at naming things

[rigid snow]

i did not invent serverless

[tender river]

nice try, john serverless

unfortunately

your name speaks for itself

[split steppe]

serverless, aka someone else's jvm instance

[rigid snow]

jvm

[flint dome]

why does st have a god damn document for everything

st for new stuff ti for older basics

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, ST and TI

TI is because of how old they are and how groundbreaking their rnd is

ST because how packed full of feature

[olive sable]

[flint dome]

fustercluck

[teal cipher]

now we're getting somewhere! lol https://puu.sh/KNM6N/16efb014cf.png

[glass jetty]

how to start properly read what ppl saying

before reply to it

f*ck me

[glass jetty]

hearthstone?

[teal cipher]

this is a game where player does runs themed as "heists"... roguelite / roguelike... they have to defeat 10 boss fights from bigger pool of bosses picked at various levels to win with last boss being some kind of final boss... between each boss battle they get offered three set of cards to choose from but what packs get offered is also randomized and what they might contain

[hard delta]

the sad thing about this meme is that i've known people worse than this

[teal cipher]

one of playable characters has her own band and uses soundwaves to damage board and enemy boss lol... music is powerful

listening to vedal's excellent PC building via vod

[olive sable]

Its not too bad i think

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/bO8et.gif

[olive sable]

its jsut the hinge, i reaaly dont think it should affect ANC performance too much

the plastics responsible for keeping out 95% of the noise ar estill there

[sage crag]

aauoœgh

[split steppe]

should be fine, anc algo will understand i'm sure

[sage crag]

ææææææææææææææææææææææææææææææææ

[split steppe]

i keep all my headsets wired tho, can't be arsed dealing with bluetoot

[olive sable]

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/lxAKJxQTYNy.gif

[sage crag]

-# ||⁰||

[olive sable]

for me its the exact opposite, i cant be arsed to deal with a wire

[split steppe]

wire never betrays

[olive sable]

what the hell is that

[sage crag]

-# ||⁰||

[olive sable]

wire doesnt let me change the volume from 5m away

[sage crag]

i hav a 10m 3.5mm jack

[split steppe]

why are your headsets 5 meters away from the place you change the volume

[olive sable]

i lie in bed, and desktop is sqrt(4^2+4^2)m away from me

[opaque wharf]

I have solution

[split steppe]

sounds like a you problem

[opaque wharf]

Get bluetooth receiver. Worst of both world

[sage crag]

-# ⁿ⁰⁰⁰

[sage crag]

4sqrt(2)

[split steppe]

lop went straight insane from your headphone botch

[sage crag]

ªªªªªªªªªª

[olive sable]

fair enough

its not that much of a botch even

[sage crag]

-# 🔺

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

buni buni buni buni buni

[split steppe]

the plastic melt will easily break though, i've done that before and those plastics are not meant to be reconstituted

[sage crag]

buni buni buni buni buni

buni buni buni buni buni

[split steppe]

add some more tape to it

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

segmentation fault

[olive sable]

why?

it would be uglier

[olive sable]

what plastic?

[sage crag]

lalalalala

[sage crag]

🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇

[split steppe]

i hope that isn't structural whatsoever

[olive sable]

this doesnt use clips, its all just screws, should be fine

[sage crag]

;

[sick owl]

Its that time again

[olive sable]

thats the side i havent fixed lol

[sage crag]

[]

¥

[tender river]

that is

array

me parsing

[sage crag]

□■□■□■□■

[tender river]

or alternatively

array pattern

[split steppe]

alrite alrite, you better fix it

[sage crag]

○•°•○•°•○•°

[sick owl]

New update got pushed that apparently can like halve the compute buffer depending on settings

[sage crag]

idontcare

♤♡◇♧☆♤♡◇♧☆♤♡◇♧▪︎

《》《》《》《》

[tender river]

balatro

[olive sable]

true

[trim valve]

@olive sable

[olive sable]

hi

[trim valve]

hello

[olive sable]

whats up?

what are you soldering?

[trim valve]

some test pads

[rough bloom]

WE

[olive sable]

?

are you flexing on my solder skills?

[trim valve]

trying to find literally any more hints as to why this board is dead

[trim valve]

partly

[sage crag]

lalalalala

[olive sable]

its hard with a 6 euro soldering iron okay 😭

[sage crag]

its not really a flex its more like

its like

[olive sable]

i should realistically have bought a better one

[sage crag]

a twig compared to a fence

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

[olive sable]

true

my first solders were a lot better, that day in particular i ont want to talk about

[trim valve]

can vouch for the pinecil

[sage crag]

brow pencil

@olive sable

:dinkdonk

shave off your eyebrows

[olive sable]

my brows are fine

[trim valve]

that reminds me

[sage crag]

shave them off

[trim valve]

need to try eyeliner

[sage crag]

shave off

eyelashes

[olive sable]

no

[sage crag]

ye

shave eyebrow and hair

baldge sam

sam.bald

bald

[olive sable]

im trying to become more femme, not less

[sage crag]

you can look like thomas the tank engine

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

id rather

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

the day im bald is he day i stop going outside

[opaque wharf]

Why is there no magic move for LaTeX on the web

[sick owl]

Nuanced nuance

Thanks Gemini, very cool

Looks like we're getting 3.5 pro soon because 3.1 has been nerfed hard this last week

[sick owl]

Thinking I'm gonna leverage that and try out daily driving Gemma 4 31B at Q4_K_L instead of the MoE at Q8

See how they stack up

Gonna try Q5_K_S too, which I think I might be able to use minus vision capabilities with batch size and ubatch size cranked down to 128

[olive sable]

they work

[tender river]

hashmap

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160259416256434197.webp?size=48&animated=true

[olive sable]

yes it took 50 min to close it up, the 2 plastic parts needed to be melted together

[trim valve]

need to make a Facebook account when I buy a quest

gonna be fun

[olive sable]

oh ye, the quests do need that cuz of onboard graphics

im just glad the rift doesn't need it

[trim valve]

gonna need to invent a fake name

[olive sable]

bred the baker

[trim valve]

I meant

fake real name

[olive sable]

they cant tell the difference, its fine

the baker is a common real last name even no?

it is in dutch at least

[opaque wharf]

Every medieval profession is a common last name

[trim valve]

yeah baker is reasonably common here

[sick owl]

Ayy it works, 25 tokens per second at 128/128 with 16k context

I think I can actually up to a batch size of 256 if I go with 16k context

[trim valve]

I wonder if this laptop can run vr

its got a 3050

thats like, almost workable at a lower render res

[sick owl]

3050 mobiles fine for gaming if you're comfortable using a slightly janky looking dlss preset, would not try VR with it

[trim valve]

this laptop sucks for gaming

from what I can tell the internal 4k screen is only driven either:

• directly via igpu
• dgpu copied onto igpu

which makes latency insane

[olive sable]

it works fine, just dont expect high framerates

[trim valve]

I mean I have a desktop too

vr on my laptop would just be funny

[olive sable]

desktop would be preferable

but laptop is genuinly fine

[sick owl]

Can just about get away with 512/512 at 16k context actually

[trim valve]

oh and then I need to voice train before vrchat too

[olive sable]

just runt he game at 1080p and you'll prob get 60hz

[trim valve]

summer activity

[sick owl]

Perfectly cromulent context window for most of what you're actually gonna daily drive local models for

[olive sable]

that sounds like what my 3050m laptop does too

and as a result it bluescreened when i connect an external monitor sometimes

im still not sure if it was my laptop's or the tv's fault, since every device saw the tv as 4096 x 2160

[rough bloom]

ye most laptops are like this

having a mux is rare

[trim valve]

oh also laptop is hdr & wide gamut

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

its an oled

[sick owl]

Nvm forgot I left --fit on

[olive sable]

wide gamut is such a vague marketing term

[sage crag]

bashmap

[sick owl]

Lemme see if I can drop batch size down to 512/256 and sacrifice pp for tg

[tender river]

hashmap impl in bash

[olive sable]

wide gamut is a percentage of DCI-P3 iirc?

[trim valve]

i mean I can be more specific, wide gamut is just easier to say

wide gamut can be a percentage of any colour space that encompasses more than sRGB

[tender river]

crashmap

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

nananana

washmap

clean

trashmap

dirty

[tender river]

washmap

washed

[sage crag]

gashmap

[tender river]

bad code

[sage crag]

leaky

[tender river]

trashmap

runs on trash pcs

fast

good

[sage crag]

rashmap

itchy

[tender river]

please wear protective equipment

[sage crag]

clashmap

mobile game

[trim valve]

its also extra funny

[sage crag]

potashmap

potash

[trim valve]

because some laptop people say like 136% of srgb

[sage crag]

dashmap

real thing

[sage crag]

doordashmap

innacurate

sashmap

[tender river]

i've had to use it a bit too many times

[sage crag]

clothes

[tender river]

async rust explod

[sage crag]

brashmap

rude

[tender river]

potassium salt

[sage crag]

flashmap

[olive sable]

ive been doing several differen projects, and now my desk is full of random shit again

[sage crag]

uh

no clothes

[opaque wharf]

Wide gamut just means your display are capable of showing more color than usual

[sick owl]

Okay I see no speedup leaving the model in VRAM vs using fit anyway

Must be like one layer offloaded

[tender river]

squashmap

erases your commit history

[sage crag]

aaaaaaashmap

ow

[tender river]

[sage crag]

ashmap

ash

[trim valve]

this is the funny thing where it maps srgb colours to p3 colours

[tender river]

fishmap

[trim valve]

which makes them no longer the right colour

[tender river]

fish

[sage crag]

i not a

[opaque wharf]

You may have a data of 12-bit RGB. The problem is, will your display show a change when the color of R component goes from 0 to 1 for example

[trim valve]

the same thing as some android phones

[sage crag]

fashmap

bad

[tender river]

smashmap

[sage crag]

nashmap

[olive sable]

ok but like, usual is is srgb. then you got HDR which is about brightness, then you got the bitdepths which is about colour banding and the inbetween steps of the colours, then you got the gamut which maps those bitdepths onto a colourspace?

[trim valve]

imagine not having 16bit per colour

[sage crag]

theres a person named nash

[tender river]

uses a weird calling convention that smashes your stack when used from c

[sage crag]

cachemap

cache

[opaque wharf]

Ye, the gamut is the display capability to actually produce said color from the higher bit (resolution) data

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

quashmap

end the insurrection

[olive sable]

im glad i can jsut tell vulkan "HDR" and dont have to worry about any of that

[trim valve]

in an ideal world yes

[tender river]

rubbishmap
trashmap but lost the a because of british localization

[sage crag]

I NOT A

[tender river]

ye

[trim valve]

wow enabling hdr makes my laptop have even worse latency

incredible

[sage crag]

bad

[tender river]

blame uk not me

[trim valve]

who would've guesssed

[sage crag]

byby

[olive sable]

surely it cant be that bad...

is it a 1080p screen?

10 bit?

[sage crag]

1080p screen in 10 bits

[opaque wharf]

See, HDR is about the content (to some extent the hardware). Gamut is about the capabilities of the hardware itself (strictly)

[sage crag]

not very useful

call technician

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

4k

[opaque wharf]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamut

In color reproduction and colorimetry, a gamut, or color gamut /ˈɡæmət/, is a convex set containing the colors that can be accurately represented, i.e. reproduced by an output device (e.g. printer or display) or measured by an input device (e.g. camera or visual system).

[trim valve]

[rough bloom]

10p screen in 1080 bits

[trim valve]

I have had lower latency streaming over moonlight over ethernet

[olive sable]

and the 3050m only has 4gb of vram right?

[trim valve]

idk if im even using my 3050 lol

[opaque wharf]

I believe there is 1 pixel camera with stupid high color resolution

[opaque sigil]

ngl I've been thinking about getting one of those dual mode monitors
being able to have a 4k display and then game at 1080p seems nice

[opaque wharf]

...a laptop like that exists?

[olive sable]

oh actually ye, the igpu would be doing the display nergotiastions and sotring the final framebuffer.
ye thats bound to be bad at 4K HDR

[opaque sigil]

huh why laptop

[sage crag]

i prefer a laptop to a desktop

[opaque wharf]

Oh, I thought you are talking about laptop too

Because the convo is about laptop

[sage crag]

if i become homeless i can still write programs

[opaque sigil]

there's also a triple mode one coming at computex apparently

ah

[sage crag]

with a laptop

wher

[tender river]

relatable

this also the reason i never had a desktop

[trim valve]

ngl i don't even know if I have drivers for the dgpu anymore

[opaque wharf]

You, uhh, can't come back to your mother?

[sage crag]

i have a deskto

[trim valve]

I tried to install nvidia ones and my laptop stopped being able to shut down

[olive sable]

nvidia slop drivers

[sick owl]

Think I've dialed in my optimal settings now

Batch size 512, ubatch size 256

Q5_K_S

16k context

[olive sable]

you'd need electricity

also, please dont go homeless

[sage crag]

great women sleep with the earth as their pillow and the sky as their blanket

[opaque wharf]

It is wild to me that some people do choose homeless as their living style

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

but healthy woman don't freeze to death in the winter

[sage crag]

i said great

not healthy

dont conflate the two

[olive sable]

id prefer if you were alive tho

cant be great when you're dead

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

then we'd need to use past tense, knii was great

[sage crag]

im still great even though im dead

thanks

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

[olive sable]

"knii was great" means you stopped being great when you died

so dont die

[sage crag]

im immortal

[tender river]

go undie

[sage crag]

i will live to 63

[olive sable]

63 doesnt sound very immortal but we'll take it

[sage crag]

its more immortal than if i died at 62

[olive sable]

63 is a fine age to die

i wouldnt want to be 70

[sage crag]

filtered

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

if im single ill die at 63

if im not i want to die much earlier or much later

[olive sable]

why earlier?

[sage crag]

doomed yuri

[olive sable]

thats sad

[sick owl]

Thanks for that nice bit of old english trivia gemma

[olive sable]

what is the context???

wtf?

[sick owl]

"I'll have your guts for garters"

[sage crag]

for context

[opaque sigil]

https://ziglang.org/devlog/2026/#2026-05-30 incremental compilation while linking with c code

[olive sable]

garters is a new word

[sage crag]

its not

[olive sable]

new word to me

[sage crag]

surely youve seen or heard of a garter-belt

[olive sable]

as in, i dont know the word

[olive sable]

ive heard of a charachter with that as a name

i choose to plead the 5th

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/jwcHGOGojWh.gif

your secret is safe with me

[sage crag]

theres an animal too

garter snake

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garter_snake

this buddy

[olive sable]

what about it is garter?

[split steppe]

stripes i guess?

[olive sable]

knii sent the wiki page after i sent the image, but my upload speed is bad

[olive sable]

i forgot they have snakes in america

@amber fractal do i gotta be worried about snakes in cali?

[amber fractal]

They exist, but I doubt your leaving the big city

[olive sable]

they're not in the big city?

[amber fractal]

Nope

[olive sable]

thank god

[amber fractal]

How would the snek survive all of the cars

However in here if you do leave the city on a nature trip (why) poison oak is more of a threat.

It is a part of nature and theirfore is not completely removed on trails

[sage crag]

in england there are like

only two snakes

the common adder and the grass snake

third snake

[tender river]

half adder snake

[amber fractal]

https://californiaherps.com/identification/snakesid/common.html
We have rattlesnakes as it goes, that is a given as desert

Thanks for the maps as I have to look in two different places

[olive sable]

well, they survive the cars in montenegro, so i would have assumed snakes also survive the usa cars

[trim valve]

I've almost ran over a snake before

i kinda didn't realize we had snakes until I was mid stride over it

[olive sable]

lemme look in my 16tb hardd rive if i still have the pictures of that snake

i do have a video of it apparently

had to remove audio

[split steppe]

slick

[olive sable]

i think this was in kroatia maybe

idk cant remember

7th of july

[split steppe]

do you think rainbolt would be able to find the location you saw that snake

[leaden crest]

i was watching a 30 minute compilation of rainbolt making perfect guesses with nothing but sky

I think he’ll do just fine

though i suppose there’s no sky in that video

[olive sable]

maybe

its either in kroatia or montenegro, no more than 500m from the beach

im pretty sure the file has some location data tho

[Composite] GPSPosition : 41.927300 N, 19.197100 E

yep thats the place

[quasi sundial]

croatia

[olive sable]

nope

montenegro

this is indeed the location

[amber fractal]

I wasn't zoomed in on the image and I was confused about why there was a mission label called Restore Miku

[olive sable]

this google street view is from 2017, and we were there in 2025

so it looks a bit different

they def upgraded the cafe

[fickle rain]

Damn I'm getting roasted WTF

I do not have usage limits on the GPT web UI though

[sick owl]

Claude Opus 4.8 seems to have recovered the damage from 4.7 but still slightly underperforms GPT 5.5 in raw performance if we go by SWE-Rebench's latest problem set

[olive sable]

what could the context for that even possibly be?

[Patreon Unlocked] means they stole the video from someone's patreon and uploaded it?

or whats up?

[sick owl]

Even at a fairly heavy quant Gemma 4 31B really is in a league of its own

[dark wing]

[opaque sigil]

get folded kiddo

[sick owl]

Not Gemini glazing my makeshift blanket bedsheet

I'm apparently brilliant for forgetting to tumbledry my bedding and having to substitute it for clothes and a blanket for the night

[olive sable]

[frozen igloo]

For some things it’s “collapse all children”

[frozen igloo]

Are mattresses unsafe without bedsheets??

I guess it means safe from getting dirty

[dark wing]

:bor:

[rigid snow]

because there’s no getter haha get it

ts unfunny

[maiden geyser]

modsssss can we please kill this user to death

[silent cloak]

Typescript is certainly unfunny

That is correct

[amber fractal]

Failure is to be expected, it comes bundled with Windows

[stark needle]

What

[jagged turtle]

what is bro yapping about

/genq

[amber fractal]

I got no idea here

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

As an large language model, I am not obligated to make any sort of sense

[exotic pike]

will start learning programming people , any beginner recommendation?

[fickle rain]

You probably shouldn't use AI

[exotic pike]

thanks

[tight tinsel]

???

this is #baking not reality bending

[jagged turtle]

mods we got another larper I think

also for the record I don't need to ask how much I trust you I can pretty easily figure it out myself

||the answer is 0% trust 0% verify 100% perceive||

[flint dome]

all schizo no reality

that is my motto

also why bro got photos of pliers and screwdrivers n shi as pfp