programming

[fiery canopy]

#livestream-chat

[snow flicker]

bru

[split steppe]

you are a mountain

profound

[fiery canopy]

and wb to technical difficulties

[kind nimbus]

Lmao

[snow flicker]

1 hour into skyrim stream

[fiery canopy]

if we get a stream atp, it aint even gonna be skyrim

[opaque wharf]

GUYS, I KNOW THE ISSUE

[wispy pike]

this is #programming how about we talk about vedal's PC building stream if we're going to talk about the channel

[snow flicker]

unscheduled dev stream

[opaque wharf]

It is because Bethesda curse

[wispy pike]

because clearly something went wrong

[fiery canopy]

sounds abt rightr

[kind nimbus]

Windows ?

[fiery canopy]

windows x bethesda curse

does work wonders tbf

trust

[opaque wharf]

No, the issue is "It just works™"

[wispy pike]

windows x? xp or 10?

[kind nimbus]

I think that stream is like fight Club

[snow flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1510718686321709249/vedal_fuckskyrim.gif?ex=6a1dd5ea&is=6a1c846a&hm=791a3a5a3a2ae3158cf8d598944c37980729f8f63d8344547341a8289221b5a5&

[wispy pike]

oh that reminds me, MS owns both windows and bethesda

[opaque wharf]

Todd Howard himself is blessing it

[wispy pike]

both of the buggiest products known to man

[snow flicker]

crunch is backk

[opaque wharf]

Fixed the latency tho

[snow flicker]

yeah

exchange

something for something

[fiery canopy]

hmm, sounds like some weird audio driver issue

depends tho

but evil

[opaque wharf]

Or it could be overhead from VM

[fiery canopy]

not on server yet

so no vm

[opaque wharf]

But yeah, Evil

[opaque wharf]

Ahh

[fiery canopy]

This is all jus sitting on the usual pc from what i understand

I am supprised ved hasnt tried running it on his pc atp

tbh

[kind nimbus]

Weird

[opaque wharf]

I knew it, it is Hodd Toward himself

[obsidian mantle]

is it probably tts?
because evil was fine and only difference between them is tts?

[fiery canopy]

ig but I doubt, because I dont think ved

has touched tts

[rigid violet]

Is everything Neuro propietary? Is only the SDK for integrations open source?

[kind nimbus]

Is Neuro still using azure tts ?

Maybe 3rd party issue

[fiery canopy]

that might be why he says third party issue apparently

[opaque wharf]

The censoring of the meme confirms it is indeed Hodd Toward spirit

[fiery canopy]

[kind nimbus]

Afaik Neuro is using the Ashley voice from azure TTS

At least back in the days that was the case idk

[fiery canopy]

from what I understand Neuro TTS hasn't changed and thats wats hes waiting for v3 voice for

[rigid violet]

Can't this be locally hosted? Or is the quality not there yet?

[fiery canopy]

but idrk

[snow flicker]

he probably clicked random shit and fixed by accident

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[fiery canopy]

it can be

[fiery canopy]

probabbly

[snow flicker]

LETS GO I CAN FINALLY SEND PICTURES
\

[fiery canopy]

goated

[kind fable]

Feel so good doesn't it
Finally not being denied embed perm is W

[teal cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-tos-star-trek-scotty-mccoy-well-scotty-now-youve-done-it-gif-25876524

[fiery canopy]

wait maybe fixed

[snow flicker]

yeah

[kind nimbus]

I think evil uses a custom fine tuned tts which should run locally via gpu inderence

[rough bloom]

it's apparently difficult to make it both better than the current voice in terms of expressiveness while also keeping the voice we already know

[fiery canopy]

ye

[snow flicker]

yo he fixed it

[nocturne olive]

Vedal has an experimental alternative voice system but unfortunately he requires absolute perfection apparently so that's never coming out

[fiery canopy]

ved's standards are way to high tbh, but understandably

but v3 voice is https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-space-gif-23401891

[nocturne olive]

Rule 1 of audio machine learning: Nothing is ever perfect

[fiery canopy]

that goes for both

tbf

lmfao

[snow flicker]

Rule 1 of programing if it works dont touch it

[fiery canopy]

percisely

[kind nimbus]

He should just fine tune StyleTTS2

[fiery canopy]

from what I understand hes fine tuned pratically every open source TTS model atp

[kind nimbus]

Oh

Orpheus also kinda good

[fiery canopy]

and most closed ones

aswell

lmfao

[nocturne olive]

As far as we're aware he already has a pretty recognizably Neuro voice, he just doesn't think it's perfect enough even though his testers thought it was great

[fiery canopy]

ye

he just fears revealing it and another split happening

partiaclly what happened with evil

esp since the community is larger now aswell

[nocturne olive]

[fiery canopy]

the issue would be there would end up being like 25 diff factions atp if it was revealed I will call it

[kind nimbus]

Hm i mean evils voice is much better in basically every regard

[opaque wharf]

Vedal when giving birth to another daughter

[fiery canopy]

ye

[kind nimbus]

He already has 3

[olive sable]

3?

[fiery canopy]

neuro,evil ,and near

[snow flicker]

he keeps the third one in the basement

[kind nimbus]

Neuro, Evil and Nere

[fiery canopy]

There

thats the spelling

I cant spel

l

fuck

[snow flicker]

Nere

[olive sable]

nere is the filter no?

[nocturne olive]

Nere is not canon

[kind nimbus]

Filter Sama

[fiery canopy]

fannon, and still an AI / llm atleast at some level tbf

so

[kind nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/heartheartart-nere-filter-sama-gif-8847040405475349659

[fiery canopy]

3rd child in the basement

[kind nimbus]

Lmao

[split steppe]

casually making a demon

[kind nimbus]

Shot by

[olive sable]

isnt 31B a lot slower than 26B A4B?

A4B only uses 4B at a time no?

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/sSg8QiXTgB8.gif

neuro goes into combat like

[kind nimbus]

Lmao

[nocturne olive]

That would make sense

[kind nimbus]

Neuro stole Evil's crazy fucking robot body ?

[split steppe]

it sure seems so

[olive sable]

31B would also use way more vram no?

making the context window way smaller

[split steppe]

it would

[olive sable]

then why would i change to a 31B model?

[trim valve]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[split steppe]

the whole 31B would be used, as opposed to the 24B A4B where only 4B is used at any given time

[trim valve]

linux

pains me

[olive sable]

just makes it slower tho

[split steppe]

quality primarily, it's bigger and more of it active at once, so you get better probabilities

[rough bloom]

it wouldn't use that much more VRAM while being way smarter

[split steppe]

but yes it would be like 20x slower because of it

[rough bloom]

should suffer less from the quant

cost is speed

[olive sable]

hmmm

[kind nimbus]

Why

[split steppe]

24B A4B only uses what the 4B active params are picked at the time, 31B would be a huge jump as it would load the entire thing, unless you configure it to offload, which would make it even slower

[trim valve]

steamvr is doing an incredible act

[tender river]

the one time valve index didnt work for me on linux it didnt work on windows either

but the other time i tried setting up a pico with alvr and it just

didnt work at all

no matter what i tried

dual boot or vm with gpu passthrough is best for such situations

[trim valve]

when you say a pico i assume you don't mean the raspberry pi microcontroller

[kind nimbus]

Cap issue maybe?

https://wiki.vronlinux.org/docs/distros/nixos/

[olive sable]

havent tried alvr so idk. im an experience openHMD jank expert tho

[tender river]

ye its a chinese headset

[olive sable]

suprisingly, the openHMD rift drivers worked better on nixos than on cachyos

on cachyos i had to edit the drivers myself

[opaque sigil]

i always forget how quickly they deprecate channels

[kind nimbus]

Oh shit i forgot 26.05 released

Sadly i still cannot update

[rough bloom]

ye

opposite of LTS

zero support as soon as the next version is released

[opaque sigil]

26.05 is also ahead of unstable which is always fun

[rough bloom]

yeah, I noticed that too

[olive sable]

short term support

[nocturne olive]

There's a new NixOS version? How do you update NixOS itself? In the config?

[olive sable]

now how do i upgrade?

[kind nimbus]

Is anyone on arrow lake 7.x also experiencing these issues ?

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/i915/kernel/-/work_items/16098

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/i915/kernel/-/work_items/16042

[nocturne olive]

STS

[kind nimbus]

Update inputs in your flake.nix

[rough bloom]

you have a flake-based setup
so just change the nixpkgs input from nixos-25.11 to nixos-26.05

[trim valve]

gonna try wivrn

[nocturne olive]

What flake.nix?

[opaque sigil]

not yours specifically

[kind nimbus]

Oh you're not using flakes ?

[rough bloom]

ideally you'd also read the release notes but I already know you're not going to do that

[opaque sigil]

but if you had one

[nocturne olive]

I just dropped NixOS on my laptop from the graphical installer

[patent shard]

the game is so blurry, even considering it's 6mbps avc with a lot of foliage
lol

[opaque sigil]

nixos depends on the nixpkgs repo and each "version" is just a branch there

update the branch and boom "new version"

[olive sable]

recompiling blender again

[olive sable]

nope lmao

[kind nimbus]

Hm yes usually using flakes is recommended

It has a few advantage over the default configuration.nix

[rough bloom]

sudo nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-26.05 nixos should be fine

[opaque sigil]

the most important things will show up during building at least ig

[olive sable]

4 new different syntax errors in the nix config

oh ye, hipsupport now rocmsupport

[nocturne olive]

Let's see if I remember that in a month when I get my laptop working again

[kind nimbus]

Ngl i didn't know there are still people not using flakes already and still using channels

[opaque sigil]

at the moment everything is just kind of broken

lots of hydra errors

[kind nimbus]

Wasn't the goal zero hydra failures before release?

[olive sable]

i wish it would have more suggestions about what to change about the broken config files

[opaque sigil]

probably but idk

[olive sable]

based on like "this name changed in version x"

[opaque sigil]

please sam use pkgsRocm.blender now

[rough bloom]

always is, not always successful AFAIK

[opaque sigil]

waiting for unstable to catch up

[olive sable]

samvm@nixos ~ [1]> sudo nixos-rebuild switch --flake /etc/nixos --show-trace --upgrade
unpacking 2 channels...
unpacking 2 channels...
warning: '--upgrade(-all)' flag has no effect for flake-based systems
building the system configuration...
evaluation warning: ‘xfce.thunar-archive-plugin’ was moved to top-level. Please use ‘pkgs.thunar-archive-plugin’ directly
evaluation warning: ‘xfce.thunar-volman’ was moved to top-level. Please use ‘pkgs.thunar-volman’ directly
evaluation warning: ‘xfce.thunar-media-tags-plugin’ was moved to top-level. Please use ‘pkgs.thunar-media-tags-plugin’ directly
[0/1156 built, 16/195/1888 copied (1.1/18.6 GiB), 190.3 MiB/4.8 GiB DL] fetching gzip-1.14-info from https://cache.nixos.org

[rough bloom]

what

[opaque sigil]

yes, follow the warnings

[olive sable]

alright

[opaque sigil]

in general don't ignore warnings

they're there for a reason

[kind nimbus]

Dafuq

I always update my flake inputs by doing

nix flake update

Then just do

git add *

And

sudo nixos-rebuild switch .#host

[tender river]

always ignore warnings

if its not an error its probably not important

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

warning not fatal, means it work

[rough bloom]

I still always see a screen full of warnings when I rebuild

surely not important

or relevant for 26.05 upgrade

[kind nimbus]

Also your flake does not need to be in /etc btw you can keep it in your home dir

[olive sable]

im download speed limited
its recompilign firefox for some reason

[rigid snow]

but yeah nixos

[trim valve]

and of course

by law of linux

[olive sable]

we're onto steam now

hmmm

[trim valve]

it works now

after trying wivrn

there's a few kinks to work out with networking

[olive sable]

does it not use bluetooth or whatever to connect directly to your pc?

[trim valve]

nope

[olive sable]

or laptop in this case

[trim valve]

it streams over wifi

in this case that's pretty ass

so im doing the reccomended setsup

[olive sable]

[kind nimbus]

Let's just take the bred

[opaque sigil]

https://hydra.nixos.org/build/330692492 it should be cached unless you did some funky stuff on top of enabling rocm

[olive sable]

it didnt actually compile firefox i think

the thing where it said "building" took like 5 seconds

[opaque sigil]

it might've done the wrapping

[olive sable]

its mostly jsut downloading shit and saturating my entire router

[opaque sigil]

though wrapped firefox should be cached too so idk

[olive sable]

[1/503/682 built, 16/1725/1888 copied (12.4/18.6 GiB), 2.8/4.8 GiB DL] fetching kwidgetsaddons-6.26.0 from https://cache.nixos.org

[opaque sigil]

oh yeah it's a lot at once

[kind nimbus]

I wish I could Update as well

[olive sable]

i would have expected it to not re-download everything if its the same version of the program

[opaque sigil]

different dependency version somewhere in the tree -> new hash -> download

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

[rough bloom]

also quite likely different versions of a lot of programs

lots of updates that weren't backported for one reason or another

[olive sable]

my brother bought a bunch of VHS tapes. so we now own bob the builder on tape

we dont have a VHS player btw

[rough bloom]

you will soon

[olive sable]

i wonder how shit VHS is in 4K 110"

[kind nimbus]

It shouldn't

[opaque wharf]

Sounds like a threat

[olive sable]

my headphones disconnected from updating

and my mic stopped working

[kind nimbus]

Understandable

[minor crag]

Python seems to think torch is over 66GB and says I don't have enough disk space

[rough bloom]

there was a libc update

it is going to redownload

absolutely everything

[trim valve]

holy shit its actually half decent too

[kind nimbus]

Ah that makes sense

[trim valve]

need to figure out one or two kinks when it comes to giving it internet

plugging in my router makes linux route everything through it

despite me having a working wifi connection

[olive sable]

oh no my keyboard disconnected

panic

[minor crag]

OK it turns out my trash folder isn't set to auto empty

[kind nimbus]

Kinks?

[minor crag]

Gonna delete a few files now

[olive sable]

ok it updated

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

i fixed the warning shit too

[trim valve]

also holy hell my laptop is a jet engine

[minor crag]

Turns out my issue is /tmp is to small :(

[split steppe]

i hate when my tmp is too small

[minor crag]

I AM THE BEST DEVELOPER EVER!!!! TORCH IS INSTALLING!!!

[broken cipher]

calm down

it's average

[minor crag]

:)

YAY

ITS AVERAGE

crap

[broken cipher]

lmfao

[minor crag]

Caps lock

[broken cipher]

caps makes it funnier

[minor crag]

It is taking me 4 years to install 10 libs

[kind nimbus]

Is this a new harness?

[minor crag]

It turns out that installing 10 libs actually installs like 70

[kind nimbus]

And at that point i would just create a flake for that project lol

Gonna keep all those libs seperated and the base os clean

[minor crag]

Idk what flake is but I'm using a fancy virtual environment or whatever the kids call it

[kind nimbus]

It allows you to fully pin all deps and make your dev shells and packages fully reproducible and isolates all dependecies from your system

[minor crag]

That sounds quite fancy

[split steppe]

bro i spent so much time trying to mirror my terminal in shaders

[broken cipher]

like docker but from wish?

or what

[kind nimbus]

Like Docker but actually reproducible and much better

[split steppe]

docker is also reproducible, but people suck at using it

[broken cipher]

you are telling me that docker is not reproducible?

[rigid snow]

docker from wish

[broken cipher]

docker is meant for this

[split steppe]

people keep writing RUN apt update && apt upgrade in their docker images

[amber fractal]

time based state

[opaque sigil]

docker is nice for deployment

[split steppe]

not the fault of docker, it can be used perfectly fine for fully reproducible builds

[kind nimbus]

You can use nix as a docker image builder to make docker fully reproducible

There was a talk about that at some con

[split steppe]

even if you depend on 3rd party images

[opaque sigil]

turns out most people are lazy

[kind nimbus]

I think nixcon was it

[opaque sigil]

who could've guessed

[minor crag]

Apparently my WiFi is so bad I can't watch a twitch stream and download a model from hugging face

[rigid snow]

yeah i brought that up some time ago

[rough bloom]

ye it is absolutely not

[rigid snow]

half a year ago

[kind nimbus]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gXHG3-CZ7CU&ra=m

[rough bloom]

Dockerfiles can access the internet, you can very easily make one that builds different images each time you run it

-# if you use the normal builder ofc

[split steppe]

skill issue

[kind nimbus]

Why is Neuro obsessed so much with goth girls today i can't

[quick condor]

I'm alive what I miss

[minor crag]

Who isn't?

[split steppe]

who isnt obsessed with goth girls

[quick condor]

Who isnt

[kind nimbus]

Well

[kind nimbus]

Neuro playing Skyrim

[olive sable]

Wrong link

Hmmm

[broken cipher]

so basically docker is reproducible when the runtime file system matters, and flake is when just the build composition matters

ic

[minor crag]

OK turns out I missed a lib so time to go though this hell again

[olive sable]

https://youtu.be/aNuX33t3swY?

Ok it worked

[kind nimbus]

You missed Vedals legendary verge PC build stream

[amber fractal]

Also known as the great #programming crashout

[kind nimbus]

True

[quick condor]

I watched a video of it... It hurt me physically

[fickle rain]

Did Codex limits reset again lol

[rough bloom]

kinda
Docker doesn't get you reproducible builds but it does get you a mostly reproducible environment at runtime, which is why people use it
so as long as you use only the same one image and never rebuild it it's fine

[kind nimbus]

Well now imagine watching the full Livestream

[trim valve]

I'm actually super happy with this working

[quick condor]

I'm glad I didn't tbh... That would have killed me

[kind nimbus]

Yup and if you use nix to build your docker images you can make it fully reproducible

[amber fractal]

I joined like halfway through, chilling with some of the others in VRC

[trim valve]

it's not the best for hard beatsaber, wivrn is doing something to my controllers

[broken cipher]

damn

[trim valve]

they feel slow

[broken cipher]

crazy style

[trim valve]

and I have like 100ms of latency

[olive sable]

U also in vr rn?

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/rr8rtdSlhpK.gif

everyone while vedal builds

[kind nimbus]

And i still wanna see a Linus reaction video

That would be funny

[amber fractal]

wivrn keeps ejecting my headset from rejoining the session at times, can't even exit the app normally

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/b0itA.gif

[broken cipher]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bombaysoftwares-shocked-nervous-breaking-bad-pFzha5z0GNH4Xuhwb6

[split steppe]

linus would crash out

[fickle rain]

Maybe someone should give Neuro a robot arm and have her build the PC, would do better job

[trim valve]

for me I can't get wivrn to kill my app properly

[broken cipher]

da fuck

[kind nimbus]

That's why I wanna see it

[split steppe]

embed fail, laugh at him

https://tenor.com/snQPREsrXw9.gif

[broken cipher]

[kind nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-evil-neuro-embed-failure-gif-15456327638408323033

[trim valve]

but compared to the other options which plain up don't work it's great

[amber fractal]

Nah, getting ready™ to go to the aquirium

[kind nimbus]

Or hear me a out a crazy fucking robot body?

[split steppe]

vedal gets poetically executed by his own creation live on television

[trim valve]

anyways I should do some vr sometime

given it now works

[rigid snow]

microservices

k8s

serverless

[olive sable]

You're free to join us sometime

[split steppe]

i wonder if its possible to do development live in vr with other people

[olive sable]

Has been known to happen

Not great tho

[trim valve]

sure

you can see bred in the virtual flesh

[amber fractal]

Did he actually do it like he said he was going to?

[kind nimbus]

I think if we all keep emailing Linus he might do a reaction video

[olive sable]

in the virtual dough

[olive sable]

who?

[minor crag]

Flip it flash attention is for nerds

It doesn't work and I don't want to fix it

[amber fractal]

Quack was commenting about doing so

[olive sable]

you're free to swear. fuck it flash attention is for nerds

[olive sable]

i was thinking about cloud doing her server shit while we were fishing

[minor crag]

Fuck*

[rigid snow]

[amber fractal]

I had several botches while doing VR, unless you count the world's most jank remote connection as dev work

Then so far I haven't

[rigid snow]

SERVERLESS

edge computing

🐟

[amber fractal]

We do need more people in VR

[rigid snow]

i'll save my dignity

[olive sable]

join us, we're all anime girls in vr.

[amber fractal]

You can't resist forever

[olive sable]

we all lost our dignity.

[nocturne olive]

[rigid snow]

i not have vr and i sstill have to pay the gpu off

[nocturne olive]

But I don't have VR stuff

[trim valve]

I gotta find an avatar at some point

[amber fractal]

Search worlds

Also known as API abuse

[broken cipher]

how can i join?

[olive sable]

you can start by introducing yourself

[nocturne olive]

I so want VR stuff now that I could theoretically afford it

[trim valve]

you could always get something on the cheaper end like a quest 2

[amber fractal]

I just do quest 2 and stream

[stark needle]

[nocturne olive]

I may see if I could get something magically cheap from the triangle alongside another GPU

[quick condor]

Perfectly normal flash attention build

[nocturne olive]

1100€ profit for graduating high school is decent right?

[broken cipher]

i could but not now

[stark needle]

holy

1100 for graduating

[broken cipher]

society is not ready for my introduction

[amber fractal]

[nocturne olive]

800 from the school and 300 from parents

[amber fractal]

from the school

[rigid snow]

also known as 12 euro in decimal

[kind nimbus]

You guys got money for graduating?

[olive sable]

[minor crag]

You guys have money?

[stark needle]

yeah like what ?????

[amber fractal]

??????

[nocturne olive]

?

[trim valve]

my uni gave me money for grades at school

[nocturne olive]

I got pretty good grades on the final exams

[tender river]

[kind nimbus]

I only spent money for university every semester but got never anything back lol

[nocturne olive]

That's why so much money

[rigid snow]

give me money i got uuuuuuuuuuh

[stark needle]

bruh if i got even

[rigid snow]

i failed in life

give me money

[stark needle]

50$ i'd be happy

[amber fractal]

[minor crag]

Im selling my stuff to fund a fancy AI PC and I hope someone on Facebook is willing to buy a cursed magic 8 ball for £5 :3

[nocturne olive]

Anyway I'll probably see how the GPU pricing is going and see how the VR stuff pricing is going on the side

Le SamVanTriangle can expect an inquiry tomorrow probably

[olive sable]

its still ass ngl

3090s are 1K, 4090s are 1.9K

cheapest 4090 available in the entirety of europe is probably mine

[minor crag]

I currently have schrodingers model

VS code can see it but my file manager can't

[broken cipher]

vscode caches

[trim valve]

refresh both listings?

[rigid snow]

oh so it's not just here??

[olive sable]

ye

[nocturne olive]

[amber fractal]

cheap compared to here

[nocturne olive]

I guess I'll have to hold off on 3090s for now

[olive sable]

cheapest 3090 deal rn is 750

[nocturne olive]

[minor crag]

OK I've reinstalled el model and it exists again

[nocturne olive]

A bit pricy still for my liking

[olive sable]

not worth imo

[nocturne olive]

Yeah a bit too pricy to be worth getting for now

Well if I were to try and obtain some sort of VR capable equipment, what kinda thing should I be looking for?

[amber fractal]

4090s are $2.5k USD here

[broken cipher]

1.5k 3090 and 3.4k 4090 here

[olive sable]

L

[trim valve]

kinda depends what you wanna do

[minor crag]

$2.5k? Is that just the cooler?

[trim valve]

like, do you want a wired headset or wireless

budget is also important

[proven merlin]

Also saw a few 4090's for 2200€ ~2600$

[nocturne olive]

I don't know I have never had a VR device and I'm somewhat low on USB ports and can't easily add more because I'm out of PCIe spots

[proven merlin]

Used tho lol

[proven merlin]

Pcie to usb: hello there

Oh

[nocturne olive]

I'm out of open PCIe spots

The 3090 and 4070Ti fill it all

[broken cipher]

wired is pretty much uncomfortable anyways

[proven merlin]

Yea just saw that

[proven merlin]

Any nvme open?

[stark needle]

ur 3090 is alr extremely good for vr

and u cant scale beyone 1 gpu much anyway

[nocturne olive]

Two but there's still nowhere to actually put USB spots as in no PCIe brackets

Oh wait technically there's one

The one above the 4070Ti is open

[stark needle]

5$ usb hub no?

[nocturne olive]

I meant headsets and such not GPU I already know my GPUs can VR plenty good

[proven merlin]

Yea, i VR on a 1050Ti, RTX2060, and RX6700XT.. on a Oculus Quest 1

[nocturne olive]

Right those do exist

[broken cipher]

poor guy is choking on his gpus

[trim valve]

I managed to vr on my laptop 3050 lol

[nocturne olive]

It's true, my 3090 is choking the 4070Ti

[proven merlin]

Do be careful. Hang stuff like mouse, kb, printer, mousepad and such, but not vr into it

[olive sable]

for vr skip 3090, get 7900xtx

[stark needle]

quest 2 bare minimum, quest 3/3s good for 99% of use cases

[olive sable]

cheaper

[nocturne olive]

[amber fractal]

Only slightly better here, laptop 3060

[proven merlin]

Laptop 2060 desktop 1050ti, theyre surprisingly capable

[nocturne olive]

But I already have 3090 and 4070Ti

[nocturne olive]

[stark needle]

yeah dont get a weird amd+nvidia rig

[proven merlin]

In general, anything that eats bandwidth or power, no hub. Anything small, hub it

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

[stark needle]

vr headset is just for power anyway, actual transfer is over network iirc

[nocturne olive]

I am 100% sure that would break something with either Xorg or games that want to find a GPU to run on

Games already get confused sometimes with two GPUs of the same brand in ascenting PCIe order

[trim valve]

oh idk how well vr works on xorg

I've never tried

[proven merlin]

I prefer Quest 1 over 2 due to the HORRIBLE eye adjustments on the 2

[stark needle]

i just use my laptop charger connected to my vr headset and connect via wifi

[amber fractal]

Also never tried

[stark needle]

i mean yeah obv it also has oled but still kinda eol

[amber fractal]

I either use gamescope or labwc for VR mostly

[proven merlin]

Depends on the headset. Oculus can do usb-c, and valve headset needs base stations to have USB 3 full bandwidth

[trim valve]

my quest 3 claims to be able to link and charge over usb

[proven merlin]

ALVR :) but yeah. Tho for 50-100€? Easy choice for me

[nocturne olive]

I do have a single completely unused USB-C port because I literally never use USB-C on my PC

[proven merlin]

You could oculus that then. But mandatory Facebook acc

Also usb c to usb hub

[trim valve]

*mandatory meta account

[nocturne olive]

I ain't touching Facebook

[amber fractal]

How else would it charge

[trim valve]

different to Facebook account

[stark needle]

oculus usb c is still just LAN

oculink is just lan

[trim valve]

it actually also has pins for charging in a dock

[proven merlin]

Same shit in the end.. meta, Facebook.. its zuck

[trim valve]

but you can just use a normal charging cable without link to charge

well yes but no

[nocturne olive]

Like why the hell do you need an account to use what is basically a funny set of screens?

[proven merlin]

Well sure, but not wireless. Its a emulated lan device

[trim valve]

it's for the store, and probably theft protection

given they run android

[proven merlin]

Because the android tablet in it :D

[nocturne olive]

[proven merlin]

Which is stupid

[nocturne olive]

[proven merlin]

The oculus can run standalone

Barely

[amber fractal]

Barely

[trim valve]

quest 3 is nice in my experience

[stark needle]

i get like 800mbps with a random 30$ repeater

[proven merlin]

I once tried vrchat on quest 1 .. god damn. ~20 min load time lmao

[trim valve]

I just had to deal with meta banning me instantly

[stark needle]

i know quest 2 weight is ass

[trim valve]

+1 face scan to meta

[amber fractal]

Wivrn only allows me to do 200mbs wireless

[stark needle]

cause distribution

[amber fractal]

This is true

[stark needle]

bro like 50MB/s is all u need

[proven merlin]

They didn't for me.. and i very clearly dont follow their rules.. but i have EOL device :D

[proven merlin]

I think they meant mbit/s

[amber fractal]

I'm able to so why not

[stark needle]

MB/s

[proven merlin]

Ah

[olive sable]

https://www.samsung.com/us/xr/galaxy-xr/galaxy-xr/
samsung has a apple vision pro clone

[stark needle]

oh

[stark needle]

it's ass

[olive sable]

its ass

[stark needle]

all hand tracking headsets are trash

[trim valve]

from what I've heard the psvr2 is actually a pretty good headset

[restive cloak]

How much does it cost?

[olive sable]

1K

[stark needle]

like 2k

[proven merlin]

Haven't got the chance to try. What do yall think of the pico vr thing?

[broken cipher]

1.8

[amber fractal]

@Bwaadow

[nocturne olive]

Right now on the Finnish used market, it appears this is the cheapest option accounting for non-deliverable ones being too far to reach

[restive cloak]

Ahhh

[olive sable]

$1799 headset only
$2048 with controllers

they charge extra for controllers LMAO

[amber fractal]

Who is buying headset only

[proven merlin]

Ohh a pico. The quest without meta essentially or something lol

[nocturne olive]

So you mean it's good?

[stark needle]

doesnt look that bad

[proven merlin]

I heard good things, no sure tho

[quick condor]

How much do yall think I could sell 24 x 32gb ddr4 ecc dimms for

[nocturne olive]

99999999999999€

[proven merlin]

Pls add my quest 1 for laughs

[stark needle]

like has only 6gb ram but who cares if for pcvr

[broken cipher]

if you want the cheapest optimal option it's used pico 4 i think

[quick condor]

like legit whats the market like

[restive cloak]

You family will inherit a lot if you did that

[stark needle]

pico 4 went up in price

[amber fractal]

At least 5$

[olive sable]

5K probably

[proven merlin]

(shit so bad i can see pixels at -2 eye vision

[broken cipher]

i got mine for like $250 new, how much is it now?

[nocturne olive]

Not available right now (when only counting ones that can be delivered or I can drive to)

[amber fractal]

My stupid self doing 50% res of quest 2

[stark needle]

yea sucks

[stark needle]

they dont even sell em anymore

[quick condor]

Thats about what I thought, I sold 24x 16Gb dimms for ~2500 a couple months ago... Funding not working through my ram stockpile lol

[stark needle]

only 4 ultra

and thats like 600-700

[proven merlin]

Demons tell me to spend all my money on a 4090, satan says take credit for a6000, my brain says no, or at max 3090.. i say 2060 laptop.. the pains of the ever increasing prices

[broken cipher]

i mean used are still a thing right?

[stark needle]

ig yeah

[proven merlin]

Thats... Surprisingly high..

[stark needle]

i paid like 250chf lol

for my pico 4

new

[proven merlin]

Looks like 1/2 the pixels?

[broken cipher]

no point in 4 ultra, as far as i remember quest 3 is much better and a bit cheaper even

[proven merlin]

Well, lets ignore my 100mb/s bandwidth issue, so that i can maybe shave 10% of pixels off again lol

[stark needle]

4 ultra has face tracking if thats ur thing and it has also it's own trackers which are rly cheap as fuck

[split steppe]

after trying some vr headsets, imo it's entirely about fov and lens quality, i don't care about pixels if i've tunnelvision and shimmers

[stark needle]

so u save on vive trackers then

[olive sable]

rift

[broken cipher]

4 ultras facials are trash tho

[trim valve]

also I'm tempted to do the eye tracking mod on my quest

it sounds fun

[nocturne olive]

I wonder what the triangle market looking like on the VR equipment department

[amber fractal]

916x960 is what I end up playing at most of the time

[proven merlin]

My eyes would kill me

[split steppe]

time to drain triangles vr market

[trim valve]

[proven merlin]

1050ti mode

[nocturne olive]

Finnish market not looking absolutely amazing

[amber fractal]

Try iGPU at 30fps

[proven merlin]

What igpu manages vr at 30fps??

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

wtf there's a pico 4 here for 150chf (like 170$) with fullbody trackers

[olive sable]

me want

hi

introduce me

[proven merlin]

Well to be fair a optimized Pi can run vr but like.. that's very optimized

[amber fractal]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/226254/intel-core-i71260p-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-70-ghz/specifications.html

[stark needle]

this is a rly good deal ngl wtf

[broken cipher]

price diff is around $150 so i guess purchase quest 3 with full body tracking set for the same price as pico 4 ultra is better

[amber fractal]

Not even AMD

[sage crag]

@olive sable ESL test

[proven merlin]

Ah, newgen stuff, fair.

[olive sable]

test

hi

[amber fractal]

Laptop tho

[split steppe]

bro grab it

[sage crag]

1. the consort is beloved
2. the consort was beloved by the ...
3. the beloved consort

how do you pronounce beloved in each of these examples

[amber fractal]

Either way, it is quite a balance

[proven merlin]

My 2060 and 1050ti are too, but yea, low power has been going up

[sage crag]

[stark needle]

i alr have a pico 4 and fbt

[proven merlin]

All the same? Idk

[amber fractal]

Uhhhhh

[broken cipher]

buy it and ship to the guy

[olive sable]

the consort is beluvd
the consort was beelovd by the
the blovd consort

[stark needle]

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

[sage crag]

⁉️

[olive sable]

idfk

[proven merlin]

Idkf

[sage crag]

any more answers

[trim valve]

one issue has returned

my laptop once again cannot shut down

[stark needle]

i bought a mousepad only cost me 50$ now im happy

[split steppe]

the same in all

[olive sable]

you know im deficient in english

[proven merlin]

Open cmd, shutdown /s or try shutdown /h

[broken cipher]

1. beloved
2. beloved
3. beloved

[proven merlin]

Itll do™

[nocturne olive]

[sage crag]

clever but unfortunately clever doesnt get grades

0 marks

[broken cipher]

i'm sorry can i get one more try?

[amber fractal]

My answer is...

[proven merlin]

Be honest, you want training data for an ai that says beloved in different ways

[sage crag]

yes

[sage crag]

leaving the exam hall during the exam will result in your grade being voided

[olive sable]

bwaa

[proven merlin]

Grade: nullptr*

[olive sable]

did i get at least 1 correct?

[fickle rain]

Bad slopmachine, don't virtualize the fucking import decoding

[sage crag]

i dont know what you even meant with your pronounciations

[broken cipher]

1. beelovd
2. beluvd
3. beelovd

[sage crag]

extremely loud incorrect buzzer

[olive sable]

[broken cipher]

[sage crag]

does the class need a hint

[broken cipher]

i guess

[stark needle]

wait i forgot for 2 days that i have a live2d model now

bruh

[olive sable]

i know how to pronounce it in dutch.
we dont

[sage crag]

english exam

not dutch exam

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

It's fine, I just want to chill on the roof while it is empty

[sage crag]

you are not getting enough credits to pass this course

[olive sable]

good thing im not taking an english course

[sage crag]

but you need it

[olive sable]

for what?

[proven merlin]

This chat section is now Property of the Federal Republic of Germany

[olive sable]

my english isnt that horribel, this sentence is enlish

[sage crag]

ok the hint is

[sage crag]

the difference lies in the number of syllables

[olive sable]

close enough to english at leasst

samspeak

[sage crag]

think carefully class

[amber fractal]

I was transferred in here against my will, I don't need this course

[olive sable]

thinking, my one weakness

no

my one of many weaknesses

[sage crag]

youre gonna take this course or youre not gonna have enough credits to apply for your next one

[proven merlin]

Slopgpt pls thing for us

[amber fractal]

I'm dropping out after this anyways

[sage crag]

youre an adult, go ahead

[amber fractal]

[sage crag]

it wont be so easy to apply for this again later though

your tuition will be more expensive after you leave education

ok since my class is incompetent i shall lower myself to tell you the answers

[broken cipher]

no wait final guess

[sage crag]

ok

[broken cipher]

1. beeluved
2. beluved
3. beluved

[proven merlin]

Dont give the answer

Give the logic that defines the answer

[sage crag]

its english

[proven merlin]

Dont give man fish, teach how to fish

[sage crag]

youre asking for too much

[amber fractal]

That assumes there is logic to be had

[proven merlin]

Well fuck

[sage crag]

1. the consort is beloved
2. the consort was beloved by the ...
3. the beloved consort

be:

1. loved
2. loved
3. love-ed

[proven merlin]

True this isnt german

[quick condor]

English logic depends on your measurement system

[broken cipher]

my measurement system is in Cs

[amber fractal]

Off the charts

[proven merlin]

The logic is:
Be-loved when its actionable or whatever, and when its descriptive its be-love-ed?

[quick condor]

Back in highschool I had an AP US history teacher that would grade spelling wrong because they were british

[proven merlin]

Thats how it feels

[amber fractal]

[sage crag]

if you want a concrete answer, 1. is a predicative adjective, 2. is the past participle tense, and 3. is an attributive adjective

[proven merlin]

Vedal debuff

[sage crag]

[proven merlin]

Ah yes English time and adjective bs true true

[amber fractal]

Pick a Colour, any color

[sage crag]

i pick colour

[proven merlin]

Turquoise

[olive sable]

i pick banana

[broken cipher]

absolute codswallop innit

[olive sable]

where is the propoganda?

[proven merlin]

I love that only the @ is yellow

[amber fractal]

I pick gleem

[broken cipher]

i knew your vr thing is just a cult stuff

[olive sable]

this is unrelated to the vr thing

[nocturne olive]

Well what do you think, is this a good deal or not?

[proven merlin]

It gets worse. When i reply, no yellow. When someone else replies, yellow.

[teal cipher]

nana banana

[amber fractal]

That's ping on reply

[broken cipher]

yeah ofc step 1 introduce yourself step 2 drink black goats blood

[proven merlin]

Then this should be red

[olive sable]

eww

[proven merlin]

Oh damn

It is

Aight fair

[olive sable]

i only drink human blood

[broken cipher]

makes sense

[olive sable]

the people that do banan campaign are different from the vr group tho

im prob the only yellow one in the vr group

[proven merlin]

What do yall vr

[olive sable]

just random vrc stuff

fishing

[proven merlin]

Ah, so social interaction.

Iffy

[olive sable]

only with friends

just to hang out

[broken cipher]

told you it's a cult too

[olive sable]

its more of a black market than a cult

[proven merlin]

Yeah ik right? Friends? The cult followes have names too

Its real bad

[broken cipher]

damn wut

[olive sable]

dont worry about it

[proven merlin]

Oh, nice! Now it sounds interesting :D

[broken cipher]

nah i wanna join now

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

good deal tbh

[olive sable]

ye its pretty good

[stark needle]

has same chip as my pico 4

just 2gb less ram but doesnt matter

[nocturne olive]

So I should potentially get it mabe?

[olive sable]

if you want

[broken cipher]

yeah why not

you'll be able to sell it anyways

for ~the same price

[nocturne olive]

Well it sure looks like you people are having fun messing with VR stuff

[proven merlin]

Does pico need any accs?

[stark needle]

ye

pico acc

[nocturne olive]

According to this it can attach to a PC with a DisplayPort cable

[proven merlin]

I pray you arent too motion sick

[stark needle]

damn pico neo3 also supports the pico fullbody trackers

nvm this is good asf

[broken cipher]

ofc

it's the same chip

[nocturne olive]

[stark needle]

i thought it was only for pico 4

[broken cipher]

nah it would be disappointing elsewise

[proven merlin]

For me its odd. Kayak vr and such work ez, hl vr also works fairly well, but vrc? God no only very burst wise movement and specific movement mode

[nocturne olive]

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

@nocturne olive for context the pico trackers are these which cost like 50$ for both and give u legs, otherwise youd either have to use slimevr and get drift (these dont get much drift cause infrared) or pay +800$ for vive trackers

[nocturne olive]

[proven merlin]

Beat saber, job sim and all work nicely for me aslong as my chats doesn't move without me moving.

[stark needle]

so theyre best value possible

[nocturne olive]

So essentially this is not only the cheapest decent headset but can also save me even more money later on if I expand my collection of stuff

Did I get that right?

[stark needle]

yep and full body is 100% worth it especially if u get into vrchat or other social vr games

[broken cipher]

or you can just get standable if you are too stingy

[nocturne olive]

[stark needle]

i was standable user for a long while

it's ass

[proven merlin]

Me with xbox kinect full body lmao

[broken cipher]

i use it now and seems fine

[stark needle]

not same thing as having real legs

[olive sable]

standable is like 20 bucks too no?

[broken cipher]

especially with trackers it's really good

[stark needle]

i mean yeah with trackers

[proven merlin]

(the jitter can be bad..)

[broken cipher]

its ~10

[olive sable]

do you even need it if you already have the trackers?

[broken cipher]

it makes them look better

[stark needle]

it's just IK with extra steps or some shit

[broken cipher]

not too sure

[stark needle]

better locomotion

[olive sable]

19.50 for me

[broken cipher]

and it's good if you don't have full body

[broken cipher]

damn

crazy

[stark needle]

a lot in vr is psychological anyways

i love looking at my legs move in vr even if they're kinda jank

lmao

[olive sable]

doesnt vr do IK by default?
thats how you have working elbows with controller only

[broken cipher]

standable does much better estimation

as far as i know

[stark needle]

it looks a bit more convincing especially sitting and crouching

[broken cipher]

maybe i should buy full body too

it's cool i guess

but i'm not sure which one

as far as i know slime is drifting and other alternatives are incredibly high price

[olive sable]

got kubernetes up

[kind nimbus]

@sage crag

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bnuuy-bunny-review-gif-8713487833516950017

[broken cipher]

webstorm :/

[stark needle]

now

good luck with helm

[olive sable]

idk what that is

[stark needle]

those megaconfigs

[broken cipher]

it's a plugin for fl studio

[olive sable]

Upgrade to go further with Gemini
You’ve reached your quota for the day, you can wait for it to reset, upgrade or link an API key to continue and unlock even higher limits. 

brother its 3 minutes past midnight. thats fake mews

[nocturne olive]

It looks like I have succeeded in buying the thingy

[stark needle]

gemini reset at 1am

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

00:00 gmt

[olive sable]

oh i see

[nocturne olive]

And also this thingy has buyer protection so if it's actually broken or a scam or gets lost in the mail I get my money back so it's pretty safe

I've also already bough a game controller from this marketplace and that worked out perfectly fine

Now, onto trying to make an obfuscated manufacturer-locked Android app work on desktop JVM

[stark needle]

@nocturne olive i think u will have to use this schizo setup https://github.com/suppressio/vr-pico4-steam-linux

[nocturne olive]

[stark needle]

(same thing for pico 3 neo)

[nocturne olive]

[stark needle]

wait damn

wtf is steamlink

[nocturne olive]

Also "stream" seems like a keyword, I'll be using a DP cable instead

[broken cipher]

it's not this bad

[broken cipher]

using dp cable sounds sick

less input lag and shit

it's still unnoticable tho

[stark needle]

looks like the only thing u sacrifice is trackers support but i dont think it matters much

especially if u dont have still

if u use dp

[nocturne olive]

[broken cipher]

using dp might be better performance btw

[broken cipher]

why?

[nocturne olive]

Yeah would make sense for it to perform good when it's literally just plugged in as a monitor

[stark needle]

idk prob cant forward the trackers

[proven merlin]

I mean dp probably fully bypasses the internal electrics and just daisychains the monitors i assume?

[stark needle]

i get 90fps at ultra settings 150% rendering in vrchat via wifi on my 3090

[stark needle]

yep

[proven merlin]

Cursed. Love it

[stark needle]

damn the dp cable is kinda expensive tho

[trim valve]

ok avatars hunted

[stark needle]

it's like 60 euro

[broken cipher]

but it still has to transfer some data except the video/audio, no?

[trim valve]

I can now actually play vrchat eventually

[broken cipher]

so what's the issue with transfering data from trackers

[stark needle]

pico trackers rely on an app running

[nocturne olive]

I think I'll be able to test the thing with Subnautica VR most likely
At least I know Subnautica has VR support

[proven merlin]

150% because of lens distortion no? How does dlss/fsr upscaling look when going from 100% to 150% for lens distortion?

[broken cipher]

that sucks

[stark needle]

upscaling sucks in vr

i have snapdragon upscaling

[nocturne olive]

World's most CPU intensive copy operation

[proven merlin]

Probably over DP i2c or something idk.. low bandwidth only id guess

[trim valve]

can't wait to hit mad social anxiety and not talk if I meet yall in vr

[split steppe]

yo guys does this look like a TV to you or something

[broken cipher]

but i guess trackers are not requiring this much bandwidth

[proven merlin]

Even if you only upscale for lens distortion? I always just render at 100%, been thinking of adding fsr to get lens distortion fix for fairly cheap

[proven merlin]

Rsync?

[proven merlin]

Mood

[nocturne olive]

IntelliJ IDEA

[trim valve]

I don't think I've ever actually talked to a stranger in vr

[proven merlin]

Hm.. i wonder if it uses rsync internally.

[trim valve]

other than shadow ages ago

for like, testing something with netcode

[broken cipher]

i've already got even before joining in vr :(

[proven merlin]

Same, at most I wrote lol

[nocturne olive]

Oh hey it finished copying and now it's processing the files I just copied

[proven merlin]

Yaay

[proven merlin]

There has been some vibe coding drama since anything higher than 3.4.1

Thats why my assumption

[trim valve]

im suprised how well my jank setup works

kinda miss a lot of the settings from steamvr with wivrn but im gonna play with alvr when i get back to uni

[nocturne olive]

I mean how bad can it possibly be it runs 140 FPS on max settings on my 4070Ti

[proven merlin]

I like alvr :)

[split steppe]

hey guys look at this crisp 4090 i got

[proven merlin]

H265 encoder saved my rx6700xt tho

Because legit, the 1050ti performed better than the rx6700xt

Because its horrible h264 encoder

[trim valve]

something about my setup makes alvr cry

it can get into the steamvr hang screen, but no further

and steam link just hardcrashes steamvr

[proven merlin]

Game ran great, but only blobs arrived and stutters

[trim valve]

at one point alvr tried to do sw encoding

that did not end well

[proven merlin]

I sometimes have that, a full reboot fixes it for me, some weird race condition.. but did you set vr runtime stuff to alvr's?

[proven merlin]

Hehe

[trim valve]

I did the stuff they told me to in the app

[proven merlin]

The quest 1 and software decode = nuclear bomb

[trim valve]

idk ill try again sometime

[proven merlin]

That should be enough theoretically.. if steam didn't die during it

[proven merlin]

H265 only works at a minimal lower res but worth it

[trim valve]

also the hand tracking on the quest 3 is surprisingly decent

I have zero idea how you're meant to use it in vrchat

there's like 10 different things, at least one of them is "stare at your hand in this specific spot for 1 second"

[proven merlin]

My quest 1 always nags me for hand tracking telemetry allowance

But the way they word it makes it seem like they wanna train a ai model on it to do inappropriate things with it

Idk

Not doing it lol

[trim valve]

thats fair

this is probably a silly question but how does one vrchat without getting beheaded by the locals

[teal cipher]

gave facelift to my website... might have post functionality for it or something if I feel like doing blog for some strange reason

[kindred nymph]

i was wondering, does anyone know how many params neuro has or is that one of vedal's secrets?

[trim valve]

maybe one or two

[teal cipher]

I think the new build indicate she's getting trained to have so many virtual neurons... that's some serious hardware to run her with

I was kind of impressed how well she plays skyrim... like implementation seems good

I'm also pretty sure she has plenty of times made mistakes by wanting to troll vedal, viewers or just "doing it for content"

[proven merlin]

Man i love that my package is going to arrive two days ago! German companies are always so on time.

[reef ingot]

Working on fox pi 32 v2

[teal cipher]

hopefully your package didn't get stolen... some delivery people think they can get away with it

[fickle rain]

Anthropic Quality™?

[proven merlin]

Should be marked as delivered and not as being delivered then..

Even if, im safe, ebay, paypal and dhl protection.. on 2x 3€ worth of micro usb board for a ps4 controller

[teal cipher]

it could also be something like package got misplaced... well accidentally and wasn't noticed, many other silly reasons that happen to packages

[fast pagoda]

quest 2 sux but it's $60

[nocturne olive]

And also isn't here

[fast pagoda]

? why not

ebay

[nocturne olive]

Also I already got that one

[fast pagoda]

o

well

for pcvr it wont be a huge difference

[nocturne olive]

I also do not want to deal with Meta accounts

[fast pagoda]

you dont have to

i guess right when you set it up maybe

i dont even know the email associated with my meta account

[nocturne olive]

Also where the hell is the main

[fast pagoda]

havent interacted with it in years on quest 3

[split steppe]

lmao https://x.com/sluongng/status/2060746160558543217

Son Luong (@sluongng)

Codex just found a “workaround” of not having sudo on my pc…

X · May 30, 2026, 3:32 PM

[leaden crest]

ts why I dont even have an ai agent on any ides

too many horror stories of deleted databases and such

that is an interesting workaround however did it even work?