📋︱feedback-discussion

[deep wing]

Behemoth for one, I was very far behind on Dino for example, then the behemoth institute which eats so much plasma and I focused on that instead of improving my tanks and also the system, these two things with pearl shop getting more expensive it made me choose other priorities

[scenic snow]

Funny enough I ignored the 2 things you focused 😂

My dino is terrible and I'm not even p18

[wide wraith]

i went research then dino then buildings

with crystals last

[deep wing]

Oh I haven’t finished my crystal research yet, for a while I was not very smart in my game decisions 😆

[wide wraith]

my other lead went crystals first

[scenic snow]

Imagine how strong the companion behemoth is going to be that has mk5 skills too

[wide wraith]

will be leveling that tomorrow, not all the way but a good few levels

[scenic snow]

I meant a new companion in future

[deep wing]

I recycled all my monkey frags for companion and I will only be able to unlock the full lizard tomorrow 😆

[wide wraith]

see i was clever, at least i thought lol, as soon as the lizard appeared i stopped leveling my monkey and rex, built the 5 now its back to leveling first the Rex, then going back to the monkey

[scenic snow]

How much does formation system help when winning it because I can't tell

Numbers are huge yes but it's not helping that much

[wide wraith]

it helps to win the ariel duel

[scenic snow]

I mean the final skill

[wide wraith]

adds a few stats

[scenic snow]

It shows huge numbers but from my tests it's not doing anything close to that

[wide wraith]

yeah its not as big as it reads

[scenic snow]

It was like laughable

[wide wraith]

same really as stealth

[scenic snow]

I think I saw maybe 5k more survived 😂

[wide wraith]

but 5k is 5k could be the difference between a win and a lose

[scenic snow]

If I'm seeing 300k kills 100k shielded and get 5k survivors

I'm furious😂

[wide wraith]

to be honest i havent really looked

[scenic snow]

I tested when losing, upgraded to win on the person

And checked after winning

It was that little

[wide wraith]

winning the air fight at the beginning helps more, especially if having pretty good spaceships and thunderbolt set correctly

[scenic snow]

In rallies yes but rallies are so rare

So many events where you fight solo

[wide wraith]

even soloing i have found it helps

[scenic snow]

It's only 7% damage on behemoths with maxed formation in solo

[wide wraith]

maybe a 5 star thunderbolt helps uh and maxed out gen 1, 2, 3 planes

my planes and mechs help me more

[scenic snow]

Formation is a huge investment for hardly any help

[wide wraith]

oh mine a built f2p

so any little helps

[scenic snow]

For what you have to gather it's much better to get other things

[wide wraith]

i do that first lol

[scenic snow]

I kept hoping eventually it will get better if I keep upgrading it

But its still not helping me

[deep wing]

Mine is also built f2p I just felt at some point that from what I already had upgraded it made sense for me to continue and then eventually have it done and focus on other things

[scenic snow]

Like 1 upgrade on cyclone mechs skill does more than like 5k formation crates

[wide wraith]

thing is, its out of date now

its like having a fully maxed scope lol totally useless

[scenic snow]

With how limited they made pearls its really annoying I wasted so much on this

[wide wraith]

it now comes downn to reading a store as soon as it opens, have a plan in place and stick to it

[deep wing]

Yes and it all depends also on what your goals are in the end

[wide wraith]

as an example i have a maxed bobby so dont need any frags but i still sdo the colosseum because there are other things and it helps my alliance

same with the hovercraft, got the astrocoin tonight without filling the collection room but more important was the 10k

[deep wing]

I have been very unlucky with collection room this time around

But at the same time I have also been very lazy to do it 😅

[wide wraith]

i was hoping to get to lvl30 on the hovercraft but alas only to 25 this time around

[deep wing]

With how lazy I’ve been this time I am not even close to that level 😆

[wide wraith]

hmmm whether to increase rally cap or go for energy shield 2 of 2 so i only need to go for the 3rd behemouth

[wintry pagoda]

another future tycoon event? didnt we just finish it, hardly a week or so back?

and the rewards on progress vs whats on store doesnt match.

[woeful hemlock]

Indeed

[stable cosmos]

Future tycoon and survivors carnival are now bi weekly. Part of why they're garbage events now.

[warped ruin]

just more deco set they are give out,.. simple money grab

[wide wraith]

its not like they even look good or fit in with the supposed zombie theme of the game

[cloud ridge]

Dice and theme park are good events though

[wide wraith]

well thats debatable

especially these days

[cloud ridge]

If they didn't exist then how are we suppose to get a lot of free stuff from 👀

They are constant and maybe tedious to do sure, but they give lots of free stuff if you play them

[wide wraith]

true but why all the ugly decos that most will have to play in ultra lite mode and never see

[cloud ridge]

Decos I dont care for that much, I have settings down just to try and play with all lag happening

So for me its meh, I'm just thankful I can upgrade reliably overtime for free

[wide wraith]

well its the decos that cause most of the lag

[real pine]

I for one love the theme park cause I get 400k free rss crates

[cloud ridge]

But just put the decos away and problem solved (kinda), doesn't make event bad or not worth it.

Amount of stuff you can get from it each time more than outweighs any negatives

[cloud ridge]

The true end goal of any event

[wide wraith]

yeah i was starting to run out as you can see

[stable cosmos]

What? Those are not good events. They were good when they were a huge part of anniversary. Now they're a bundle pit chucked out every 2 weeks for random rubbish you don't display or actively care about. This game is about filling a trash can it really is.

[jolly harness]

They were but the shop either got expensive with less free stuff of store got nerved down to nothing with medium free stuff. Only to have an excuse why jungle gems is Always for that event and not more diverse like it used to be

And don't forget the nerves done to jungle gems rewards itself

[solemn kraken]

we also wouldn't have had to deal with not-zombies to start with...

[fallow lodge]

atm moment in time the zombies that still exist in this game...where ever they are probably running of more brain function that us fools. mind mushing repeating events just to walk lines to boxes what is my march for...seriously devs what happened to a good old burn fest. the good old times where this game give you a sweat on not blurry eyes of following lines

[solemn kraken]

no money in that, that's why the change

[cloud ridge]

They are 😌

[cloud ridge]

So we should stop making feedback to constantly update store because people still dont realise the items change

But even with the nerfs, which is correct and valid, same as gems.

Then what, if they remove them.

Suddenly missing two forms of events that gave you free stuff, which would probably be replaced by something much worse

[jolly harness]

They notice the big changes. Rewards completely changed. Many often don't notice the small nerfes, 1 or 2 items less, 10 instead of 11 or 12... but by the time they do notice it's been on a couple of times

[cloud ridge]

I feel it a lot and notice it, but it still doesn't make me want to remove the event.

If it was literally a buy bundles only way to get store stuff then fair.

But its not, you can get decent stuff each time, how i leveled up pets, get collections, sentinels etc for free

Slowly and for free

But it wont stop people complaining about store and making things even worse no doubt

[hollow zinc]

Oh so the new Behemoth just deletes your troops? I guess it's time to stop the game for good.

[solemn kraken]

what do you mean 'deletes your troops'?

[hollow zinc]

They are gone. Not in hospital, not in enlistment. they are just deleted. Just watched a video on it.

[solemn kraken]

that sucks

[cloud ridge]

Whales be doing a bit of trolling

[jolly harness]

During SVS rules are different about dead troops

[jolly harness]

RIP states that are lead by an ego whale

[hollow zinc]

Can you predict how it will behave in SVS? Personally not. Since troops are purely deleted and don't go in enlistment or hospital, my first though as a dev is that it will also bypass SVS mechanics. We will find out very fast anyway

[jolly harness]

90% of dead troops can be revived during SVS

It " KILLED " troops. Hence you will be able to revive

[hollow zinc]

You are not answering. How do you know how it is managed code wise? 30% of troops go in enlistment when attacked, it doesn't here they are deleted. You are not answering or missing the point here. They are not dead they are deleted.

[jolly harness]

Where does it say deleted ? It says killed.
SVS has hospital, enlistment and DEAD troops.
You revive 99% DEAD troops. Not enlistment troops....
So yes. I am answering your question.

[hollow zinc]

You did not read my first messages right? Check the video test about it before saying I'm wrong. There is a test video out there showing how it works and what it does.

[jolly harness]

And if you are not top 5 in your state. Don't even worry about this skill cause i won't be used on joiners

[jolly harness]

It shows a test on a settlement in same state

[hollow zinc]

I know people that will use it on me on first sight even if I'm not top 5

[jolly harness]

Svs rules are different....

[hollow zinc]

You are missing the point again. Ok never mind

[jolly harness]

Port away. You can avoid it during 8 sec march

[jolly harness]

I'm not missing the point. I'm thinking rational while you are freaking out about it

[hollow zinc]

You are not at all. you say "SVS rules apply it's certain" with no proof at all, while proof that this skill isn't using at all the normal way battles works is actually proved

So you are everything but rational here. The dragon skill doesn't use the normal wounded/kill methods it use a new one completely unrelated that deletes troops and you are telling me the devs with their awesome skills, of course thought about it instead of just deleting troops? Am I the one not rational here? 😄

[jolly harness]

I said rules are different about dead troops

[hollow zinc]

And I said no rules apply to it so far.

[jolly harness]

If you attack a settlement in your state with a march. There are also troops dead and deleted

#just saying

[hollow zinc]

if it was like the laser on the HQ you would have a report, it's not, you get a new kinda report telling you "Bad luck you have lost troops" with no defense, no way to heal and recover. That's the fact. no rules are applied and I don't see a hint it will be different in SVS.

[jolly harness]

I saw the video and tested the skill myself

But okay

You do you and keep singing

[hollow zinc]

We have SVS saturday I guess we'll find out

[hollow zinc]

lol

[cloud ridge]

New state rule, no miss use of the fire breath attack on players settlements, before r4s decide if the reason is valid

[hollow zinc]

I guess there should be a general ban of this skill. But still the damages can be huge if someone decide to break the rule :/

[jolly harness]

Logically this skill will hurt whales more then smaller players.
Lets say an alliance of medium spenders launches this skill on the ego whale in there state

[cloud ridge]

Me likes, but not rich enough to do that 😂

[hollow zinc]

I do agree but a medium alliance will prob never have this skill ... Not before it get nerfed. So only the whales will use it cause they spent enough :/

[cloud ridge]

It would help to reduce state bp, as we've been told before when we got burned by our nut job state dictators

[wicked glacier]

Have there already been enough dragon chips available for anyone to have that skill unlocked in live server yet?

confirmed with co-mod that there are not

[jolly harness]

They will have this skill

[real pine]

I think you'd have to be a little more than a medium spender to get this skill

In a reasonable time frame

[jolly harness]

Depends. Only struggle is frags

[real pine]

Its quite a lot to get the frags needed

[hollow zinc]

Yeah I just compare to how long I needed for the last skill on the 2 first ... and I'm a low spender. There is no chance F2P ever get this skill before the Behemoth MK6 is out with the skill to burn the whole state just by it's presence 😄

[wicked glacier]

The good news is, it shouldn’t be available for this SvS in live server so there should hopefully be a bit more data on how it impacts troops during SvS before it is

[jolly harness]

Are you sure it's not ?

Polar confirmed whale status

She bought all the bundles so she knows

[wicked glacier]

No no lol … confirmed with co mod

[jolly harness]

Probably tallie or fear

Both whales

[full rampart]

Im not a whale

[jolly harness]

Lies

[jolly harness]

But fear is ?

[wicked glacier]

15k frags is a long way

[jolly harness]

Will probably be added to more events after the heist event

[hollow zinc]

Next month there will be plenty around 😄

[wicked glacier]

Hopefully so. I like the dragon. It looks angry

There’s also info on it from one of our SAs for reference back. So just unlocking will be a bit less than 15k but still a lot #📰︱archivist_infographics message

[last hazel]

[stable cosmos]

Store you like is not the same thing as good event. The gameplay in them is poor. They are not enjoyable to grind for. You have to grind to play them and they don't fit in the world. Thats why they're bad.

The store for an event should never be a consideration for if an event is good or not. Stores can be moved anywhere and are divorced from gameplay

[wide wraith]

i wonder why in there so-called wisdom are the devs going to do doomsday again, its not like anyone incuding whales, ultras and gigas actually likes it, the Devs should listen to players for once

[cloud ridge]

Whats a good gameplay event to you? Regardless of store.

[jolly harness]

I think the heist tournament and DD will be mid transfer, so alliance can buff up before DD

[wide wraith]

yeah was in the same new facebook roadmap post from April 21st as seasons of Harvest, Azurtane All-Stars (the world cup themed) and the much hated Doomsday open

[cursive vessel]

DD is fine, it's the obvious fixes to it that aren't and they dont even try to hide them

[stable cosmos]

If you remove store/prizes.

RR, AH, anything that means playing the underlying game to some extent.

All these dinky things where you do stuff that is completely unrelated are bad events. The absolute least they could do is make stuff fit in game.

JG for example. We could be digging up an ammo cache. Fishing could be reworked as a zombie sniping game.

[wide wraith]

which is one of the reasons it has voted the least favourite event for the last few years

notice though how i saw this on the official FB account but nothing has been posted on this supposed official discord

[stable cosmos]

Replying to myself. Also events should be linked. F2p where prizes are meh feed into low spend which feed into high spend but in enough volume that you feel like progress is being made without spending 8 hours in game.

[cloud ridge]

Fair, dice are basically the same event, dice has more clicking involved in long run to me.

Both gameplay wise are non existent.

RR and AH are fine, AH needs bugs and lag to be fixed but least as you say, has some basis that fits game.

Fishey is a good and simple idea, already have that from collab events.

Could make the fish zombie parts that drop from certain type of infected perhaps.

So we'd still have the different tier of fishes but instead replaced by something more game related.

Wasteland event is just an idle game and although it kinda fits the theme, its gameplay is non existent.

So I get your point on a gameplay aspect, if they could tweak those events to fit game theme then it would probably be more welcomed.

They could probably scrap fair really, have dice be a more team based event, maybe have to complete daily tasks like kill infected, gather resources, donate resources to alliance mates etc

Then have something appear on map like dino you have to deal damage to (so whales can rank otherwise they'll complain)

.
It's similar to how they tried to introduce hoard as a migo task / event and it seemed good for f2p as could rank high using brain. But then theh released that infected mob to deal damage which wiped out all points f2p made in a single hit, making kt redundant

[stable cosmos]

Oh right. Horde. I forget that even exists.

It needs to change to a CC style hq defence. So its waves of zombies constantly for 15 minutes and you have to keep the hq reinforced. Prizes are based on time survived. Make it 30 minutes if you want bored people.

Duels was the right idea, but they need to remove the slow marching mechanic and swap it to a 1 minute march maximum

[wide wraith]

the mushroom horde was the best version of horde, fast action then a boss afterwards and pretty good rewards

[stable cosmos]

That never made it everywhere. Small subset.

[wide wraith]

as for normal horde wont dont even bother these days

[jolly harness]

Say it in less words, so much reading

[stable cosmos]

I don't mind so much if they wanna add stupid minigames.
But they need to make those stupid minigames part of the in game world.

[cloud ridge]

Lots of non sos related events,

Would be better if those events we're made zombie themed to match game so the gameplay aspect was better.

Regardless of what store is tied to event

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Cause I would still rather have dice and theme simply cause of store, but as a gameplay perspective I agree they have no relevance here.

The poker game we had before was ok, but they could easily make that so its the heros sitting around a camp fire and playing

[stable cosmos]

Mess the cards up a bit, add some stains and please, let f2p have a couple of performers without spending. Its more than half the gameplay for what you stole the game from

[cloud ridge]

It was, just also was made p2w event when they introduced that boss infected.

Cause you could rank high as f2p before then whales couldn't, so they of course had to add something to make them happy

Aged and damaged cards yes

Not brand new ones 😂

Hell, they could even make their own and have the heros on them

[wide wraith]

poker was boring, over long, 💩 rewards

[cloud ridge]

Nah, rewards we're actually good

It was a bit tedious sure with how much you had to do daily, but we had f2p ranking high and getting statues for free

[stable cosmos]

The problem with it wasn't really that it was boring its that in bala.... i mean, the game they sto... borrowed from, the whole idea is to use extra cards that provide synergies. And they locked that behind a paywall

And as the game they sto... borrowed from was actually amazingly popular, they could have done better

[wide wraith]

we ask for less events and they add more that someone copies code from elsewhere

[cloud ridge]

I half assed the event, could have ranked higher but didn't know how to really play it fully.

[stable cosmos]

You needed performers otherwise it was just "am i gonna be lucky or not"

[cloud ridge]

F2p can play it smart, sure will get beaten by spenders, but can still rank high and get something good for what the event is

I got the maddie performer twice

[stable cosmos]

Never hit that bit of rng. They should offer one at random that you can't keep.

[cloud ridge]

Doubt I'll ever spend it on, but least know more how to play it to make it more worthwhile

[stable cosmos]

On a 3 day timer or whatever

[wide wraith]

it was a bind, added nothing to the game and certainly wasnt fun

[stable cosmos]

It was just another place to put bundles.

It could have been fun but the need to extract cash from everyone at all times taints anything they do

[wide wraith]

I would put it on a par with the jam junk

[stable cosmos]

I'd put it higher, but only cos i know what the base game is and that does look pretty fun if you can play the whole thing. Jam is 100% luck on that first guess

[cloud ridge]

Jam i find meh, its just a small bunch of free stuff

They dont want to give us back that pet event for free stuff

So stuck with other pet game...

They could again make them sos theme related easily

[cursive vessel]

I do wonder what happened to the pet adventure thing

Maybe it was too good for f2p 🤣

[cloud ridge]

I imagine too much free stuff

Those biscuits are a big issue to get compared to other things

New showdown store least offers a reliable way to get them now

[wide wraith]

players didnt get behind it as they could lose pets

[cursive vessel]

Nahh, it would have taken forever to lose a pet. People went overboard complaining about that

[wide wraith]

i didnt really bother with it anyway

[cursive vessel]

And most people have spare gen1 pets they could sacrifice if needed

[wide wraith]

the game-team seem to think that this mobile game is an esports game, thats why they want everything as a league

[fleet edge]

And you guys don’t believe me

We need to report this

5 games same items

I understand its RNG but not like that

[hollow crater]

Hey, This item usually drops from the volcano or fishery area. If you've only visited these areas, the chance of getting the same item is very high.

since you got the RAM, it's also comes mostly from Volcano, for other collection items you might want to go to dragons or Kraken

[fleet edge]

I visit all

Same items drop

Where should i go to get red item

[wintry pagoda]

😂 thats why I am not getting that Optical fiber item on the map. you got all of them lol

[hollow crater]

I got all my red items from containers and shipwrecks

every single one of them

[thorny plume]

How does march buffs work ? My regular march is 341, am i right to assume it should be 341 x 1,24 with both skill and regular 12 percent march march buff ?

Well tested. Not at alln

[fleet edge]

All it comes to me lol

🤣🤣

Another one

[thorny plume]

Im not great with maths but this is worse math then Donald

341 without buff, 356 with 6 percent buff

[wintry pagoda]

where did you get these? from volcano?

[fleet edge]

From the fishing stations

And volcano i usually get purple blue or rams

I don’t know what should i do more than that

[wide wraith]

surely simple answer is not to go to to the fishing stations then

[fleet edge]

I swear a god i search all the map

[wide wraith]

after all not like there are 3d modules there

[fleet edge]

I maxed migo drop rate

[wintry pagoda]

from what I understood, these buffs work on your base march capacity. If your regular march is 341k, thats after all the increases with decorations, statues, etc. If you go to your Profile -> Stats, you'll see your base march capacity.

[fleet edge]

I don’t know what to do more

[wintry pagoda]

take that number and apply 6% on top of it.

plus whatever you get from statues. If your base march capacity is 300k, 6% would be 18k. so it'll be 318000 + increases due to deco/statues

[fleet edge]

I’ve been through this loop since first stage of migo

[wide wraith]

i get out in 7 mins, got the astrocoin without getting all the items , the 10k is nore important to me

[wide wraith]

my marchcap says 295.21k but actual unbuffed is 339.655. to be honest couldnt really care less, if i want to knw my cap i just go as if attacking something, and make a note of the numbers

[hollow crater]

If you get most of the orange items, you can rush for the red ones by simply moving between containers; whenever I see a 10-second countdown, I stop and check for an item, otherwise I just keep rushing between containers; yes, sometimes the 10-second item can be a flare or a boat, but it’s worth trying.

I am still missing Energy and Blackbox but i got the 28 level crate

[muted terrace]

Red ones i usually get from 1st building

[spark kindle]

Mostly shipwrecks

Blackbox comes from ruins

[hollow crater]

I tried so many times but i was unlucky

[cursive vessel]

Where do you find the one's I'm missing? Think it hates me cause I can't find them anywhere 😂

[wide wraith]

The memory card can be found in the volcano
The communicator can be found in the reef dragon and kraken

[cursive vessel]

Definitely unlucky then 😂

[wide wraith]

have you filled in the Elite finder and fortunes favor in seasonal growth

[cursive vessel]

Errr

Not sure to be honest 😂

[wide wraith]

lol they help

[cursive vessel]

I'll check

[wide wraith]

fortunes favor is a straight line but Elite finder comes off the main line through

[cursive vessel]

Hmmm, I dunno, I'll have a look

[stable anvil]

Just No
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

If people have equal stats and junk, what is the purpose of hitting settlement? If you literally have equal stats their is no heavy damage being done hence the gap between big and small players.

They literally have a desert version of Pow for people who want this type of format

[cloud ridge]

As an event though

If it brought us back to og path of water

Where everything was same, you only had strategy

I loved og pow

Before they made it whale friendly cause all credit card no brain

[wide wraith]

people complain about the number of events and then support a suggestion for a new one,

[cloud ridge]

Replace it with another then

Not that anything matters in end as FP will do as they want

[stable anvil]

Tjats was the best event

Sucks devs were stupid though

[wide wraith]

FP would never go for it anyway as they cant make any money from it

[stable anvil]

Last Pow Summit idk if you all remember they first gave people their own marches and buff and then for elimination it was equal marches, then the finals was all about back to marches

[cloud ridge]

I still believe the changes made to pow was 100% cause whales complained they'd lose to farm accounts

Once it goes back to your power, it loses any sense of, lets see who wins this factor

[stable anvil]

If devs gave elimination first round by equal marches you would have not had mega whales in top leagues but devs kiss az

[cloud ridge]

Desert survival is just an awful pow clone with pay to play forced

I have no clue why anyone would pay to play that but they do

Could easily get rid of that event and several others

[coarse fern]

That's the point being smart and not just burn, the event im suggesting fits the gameplay of pvp and pve players and it's skill based = fun for everyone who plays it, getting in and getting zeroed instantly is not fun at all tho, and getting in zeroing everyone and standing still for 50 mins would not be fun either

[cursive vessel]

Original pow was the best, had to use brains not money. Its why people complained 😂

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[coarse fern]

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[stable anvil]

Spammer

Ban from discord

[errant crane]

Thanks

[stable anvil]

No ban.booo

[wide wraith]

guess i am the only one who never liked pow

[coarse fern]

i don't like pow gameplay

that's why i suggested a event that you play like in RR, moving around a map

[cloud ridge]

Og pow best, one of my fave events, before they murdered it

Simple but effective, even a monkey could play it

But that's too much for some people apparently

[stable cosmos]

Og pow was the one i played. Ever since personal stats came in i stopped. It was so much better when everyone had to think.

[stable anvil]

The one-time rusty and ghost was stronger than Chef and purple heroes

[cloud ridge]

Blue march heros beating purple was weird

Guessing their skills did better

[stable cosmos]

Didn't think that really mattered. It was more about where you went and when. Much better than, a whale is in that building so we can't go anywhere except by scout

[winter echo]

PoW was fun for me until every team I was against was bots. That made it very boring and seem to take forever. 😅

[earnest flare]

lets see how you folks react then :p

made this post on my alliance forums

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Or just simply do this... give all of the option to Tick a box in game setting for APPLY 12hrs shield .. at the start of SVS ... that means when the whistle blows at 10utc you will be protected.. up until the end after Free for all attacks ... at what is it 17utc

--

that means all that forgot ... or just taking a break from the game un-able to log on wont see themselves blown to oblivion when they return and a capped out hospital

Or better yet ... give the R4's the option to put up a shield for all in the alliance

-- heck you could even give the option to shield all on the server... to the GOV

about time gov abilities and buffs had a re-work anyways

[stable cosmos]

Extra resource harvesting woo. Negative abilities on other alliances are just for fun these days. All anyone wants is patriot

[earnest flare]

exactly ... it could be a state buff ... not just one person

[fallow lodge]

haaaa no bud not r4 or govs job to bubble people. it works both ways that would kill hunting off in other states, the people that forgot to bubble are the best people. they make a Saturday svs worth waking up for. there job to bubble tbh. ive never understood how people forget.. its not like they not spent all week knowing its svs and probably been online the night before...bio cost for 24 hours isn't even that much

[wide wraith]

a good r4/r5 would be using alliance messages both the pinned type and ingame to remind people to bubble

[stable cosmos]

People will always forget. Let them. If they moan thats on them too. There are thinga that need hand holding and things that don't bubbling for svs is not one of those things.

Although they should give the 24 hour shield at reset...

[cursive vessel]

People don't read r4/r5 messages 😂
But nah, people have played long enough now that they should know to bubble. It's their own fault if they don't

[stable anvil]

Dont even send them msg

They will survive either way

Like roach, burned to a crisp but they aurvive with what they have available

[cloud ridge]

So a 24h shield isn't long enough, so we ask for a 12h shield to be made

[cursive vessel]

They just dont wanna use bios for a 24h shield

But we get loads of bios so its not really a good reason 😂

[stable anvil]

Well

[stable anvil]

If they spend for 24 hour bubble then they get the shield which can be used for later. Then next svs the one they saved can be used until the new one is sent in and rinse and repeat

But yes people love to save bios for other things and yet complain about events that give free bios and want them to be removed entirely

Literally at 16utc on Friday put 24 hour bubble and if you sleep through it or dont come online for whatever reason: weather, didn't pay bill, lag atleast the bubble last all the way until svs is officially over

[cursive vessel]

My mini uses a 24h, stops it getting burnt and I dont have to remember to check on it later in case it runs out.
People just like to complain

[wide wraith]

if you dont want to use bios you just wit until after 8UTC and then bubble using a free 8hr

[cursive vessel]

I can see why 8h isnt long enough if you're working but 24h is fine in that situation

[stable cosmos]

Still should get it at reset. I don't see why the 24h one needs to show up at 8.

[woeful oak]

I think they should make shields cost diamonds

[cloud ridge]

99 diamonds per hour?

[woeful oak]

Sounds fair and you need to log in each hour to top it up

[wide wraith]

updates in the middle of RR again, someone slap the game team

[feral mango]

I enjoy the data updates during SvS

[wide wraith]

can tell the team responsible for updates has never played the game

[solemn kraken]

no one on the team (including management) have played the game

[cloud ridge]

I can agree to that, maybe add an auto buy pass for shield time as well in future.

As people seem to want more automation here

[trim lance]

Please remember discussing or sharing about other games is against the server rules. They can be found here #📖︱server_rules

[wide wraith]

pity that was this game

[solemn kraken]

yes, they don't like us discussing this game in public 😛

[marble crescent]

Hello 👋 friends 💕

[cloud ridge]

Why are you in Germany

[cursive vessel]

What's wrong with Germany? 😂

[cloud ridge]

Well, it was more an icebreaker

I'm still learning to talk to bots

[stable anvil]

Can we please have devs that listen

Get these damn screen fixed where evertime we want to promote or demote someone it drops the menu and we have to do it every timw

Leave the drop menu as is until we decide to get out

Seems devs also removed this event but our bags still have them as junkmail

[fallow lodge]

ha devs you suck..azurtune event,,,,come on lets just give these speacial players the chance for decent rewards and the rest of the player base a stupid little progress bar

what a insult to all the game

[stable anvil]

Also like to clarify devs are dumb.define top 400 in all state. Is that bp related? Or you have a bunch of dead accnts cause players decided to quit . So what definea top 400 in all states

[fallow lodge]

the coins dont even match up to the crystal store🤣 ha theres a damn pack on the crappy progress bar too...damn dev team better get in here and explain why we cant play for new behemoth frags

[stable anvil]

We can literally see all the namesof those who are able to participate

[hollow zinc]

Nobody in our state is allowed to participate apparently ... And if that's BP, that sucks. Our guy with the most BP is a papper tiger defeated by half the state but has an insane number of troops ... BP means nothing in this game

[feral mango]

They aren’t going by bp

[hollow zinc]

If you look at the list they are sorted by BP

[feral mango]

Yeah but I can tell you there are 2 players in my state who have higher bp than me and several others on the list and they are not on the list

[stable anvil]

Devs need to define what criteria is used to make top 400

[hollow zinc]

Money spent maybe?

[feral mango]

That would not be surprising

[hollow zinc]

I don't mind having a showoff of whales but the issue I have with that is again, rewards for those not really needing them ... That's a bit dumb. and I guess the winner will have insane stuff making him/her so much stronger and the rest will have crap that won't make any difference at their lv.

[feral mango]

I don’t even want to play. They could at least make it voluntary

[hollow zinc]

Yeah that too I know people not bothing with AH for a long time. I don't do it anymore cause rewards are not interesting and it's always the same. I was hyper a bit by this new one, but what a turn down.

And those not wanting to participate will just be afk in the fight. How interesting

[vagrant parrot]

grand masters

its based on migration rating

it doesnt matter if you are a master that wins against people in that list 😂

[woeful oak]

Definitely not

[woeful oak]

I'm sure it was collection based

[wide wraith]

there is a simple answer if you have been selected for this all star showdown and dont want to play, just ignore it

and if you havent been selected and think you should have, simple stop spending, its not rocket science

[raw light]

Definitely not 😂

[wide wraith]

probably names in a hat and drawn randomly

[raw light]

Because can see my old svs opposant and even Svs opposant of yesterday be inside

And have more collection than them , not inside 😂

[wide wraith]

too be honest who cares who has been selected, most have said its a waste of effort anyway, its just an ego massaging tool

[raw light]

And so many player inside that top shouldn’t be too 400 I have see plenty name would even not even make any scratch to some real top 400 aren’t in that top

[cursive vessel]

Someone said could be migration score based but even that doesn't seem right looking at the list

[raw light]

Is just ego event but still wanted free frag mk5 😂

[raw light]

Na , migration at 1.6-1.7B u have player have migration under 1.4B

[cursive vessel]

Yeah thats what I mean, it doesnt work either.
Someone should ask their gm how they made the top 400

They should know

Not that I'm top 400 but I'm just nosy

[wide wraith]

but seriously, would you have played it, if selected

[cursive vessel]

It's good for new behe stuff so can't see why people wouldn't play

[wide wraith]

the actual allstars can die in a fire, i am happy with the "free" solo stuff

[raw light]

If is basic azurtane yes tbh because some don’t know play it so would have chance to getting free rewards 😂 even if we know only real top 50 would advance

[crude stratus]

I said it in my video, privileged rewards for privileged players

[wide wraith]

at least the free stuff is pretty good, not in the selected few so that can be ignored quite happily

[woeful oak]

Yeah it is 😂

[woeful oak]

Collections

[cursive vessel]

Nah it's not

[woeful oak]

How are you certain?

[cursive vessel]

GM said its based on overall strength, including factors such as combat capability and activity level. Whatever that means 🤣

Basically they just pulled names from a hat 😂

[woeful oak]

Sounds like BS. It's collections

[halcyon berry]

as we said earlier collections say nothing about strength

[cloud ridge]

Unless someone's farm has more collection than people's main i doubt it

[woven spire]

Didnt see monroes farm😂

[halcyon berry]

if i remember correct mkr once won against leconte in svs and leconte was at this time highest collection player

[woeful oak]

I agree completely, but you're forgetting one important detail. You think devs care about that

[cloud ridge]

Apparently there is one, that is f2p.

Unless they we're joking but I believe them.

[woeful oak]

I'm 90% sure it's collections

[cursive vessel]

It'd be stupid doing an event based on collection levels 😅

[cloud ridge]

So now I have even less clue on how this mess of an event was done

[woeful oak]

Because there's a handful of players there that our 3rd lead beats, but I know they have higher collections just no brains to build a good account.

[woeful oak]

Couldn't agree more

[cloud ridge]

Either way least we have our solo rewards to look forward to

[woeful oak]

But from a Dev standpoint, it's an easy way to get top 400..

[cursive vessel]

I dunno, they're likely upsetting a lot of people who should be there and arent. Wouldn't be wise, unless that is their intention

[woven spire]

Ye but leconte was in a state without joiners/leads and mkr state has paw

Paw is also top 20 collector or so

But ye collection says nothing still

That doesnt change😂

[woeful oak]

Again, I do agree. It's a terrible event either way, excluding 90% of player base is disgusting.

[woven spire]

My farm is coll 90

F2p

[halcyon berry]

if you only focus on collection you can be high even as low spender but at end you are weak as f

[woven spire]

I did not focus it

Every f2p should be collector 90 by now

All they had to do is actually do jungle event

[cloud ridge]

But I mean like, top 400 collection level

Cause if farms are top 400 collection then do we even have 400 actual players

Azure heist will be 200 players on their main and farms

[stable cosmos]

They always exclude most of the player base. Consistently

[woven spire]

Is heist based on collection?

[cursive vessel]

No 😅

[halcyon berry]

but the feedback i think is most funny 🤣

[woven spire]

I see some state 1300 in it. Doubt they part of top 400 strenght

[halcyon berry]

i spent 70k and nit be allowed to play 🤣

[woven spire]

I think its top 400 spending

😂

[woven spire]

Most are at 500k i think

After 6 year

[halcyon berry]

for sure

[woven spire]

500-1m range with the huge spenders easy 1-2m

Lucifer before quit was 1.1m

[halcyon berry]

70k is for devs peanuts 🤣

[woven spire]

Yep

😂

[cursive vessel]

I'm also not collector 90, I'm a terrible f2per

[woeful oak]

You would be surprised

[halcyon berry]

i bet in state 1400+ there are already people who spent 70k

[woeful oak]

Easily 😅

[woven spire]

Strenght? Arent they missing key features

[woven spire]

Ye some spend that monthly atm

[woeful oak]

Maybe gen2 spacecraft, that's it

Most whales in 1300 are doing 30-50k a day

Obviously it comes down a ton once you're maxed

[halcyon berry]

30k a day i doubt

[woven spire]

U mean a month?

On what would they spend 30k a day

[woeful oak]

Well for example, we're maxed out / same content as everyone else.

Maybe behind on island, some collections possibly?

[woven spire]

Aaok, though not all released yet

[woeful oak]

Yeah all is with us since last transfer

[halcyon berry]

within a month they would have spent 900k nearly same as mucifer did

[woeful oak]

Diamonds I'm talking 😅

[woven spire]

Oh

Ye 3k a day during events might be possible lol

[woeful oak]

Well think, new states have same events as everyone else then all that content getting pushed. 30k diamonds won't last all that much

[woven spire]

And ofc they use loaders

[halcyon berry]

ok i thought Dollar 🤣

[marble grove]

So is this new event for 400 people who play sos?

There is my answer 1 person in 3 states get to play this event... what is the point?

[raw light]

Na some are collection with 12k-14k points and with more Im not in 😂

[cloud ridge]

Top 400 people in whole game based on something

[forest kiln]

Rest should be happy for this 1 "very special" frag:

[thorny plume]

Which basicly you need 1199 more of so you can pay to unlock snd build s hero weaker then regular rambo @7

Old special ops is more like special needs

[wet tusk]

But I know a few masters in that list

Unless they suddenly ( which is expected) became grandmasters this transfer

[vagrant parrot]

there is a cutoff

from what i am hearing its areound abouve 1.67

but i am not sure

[wet tusk]

Both are below

But Let me check again

[wet tusk]

You are right , they crossed that

[forest kiln]

I think they did lissten last year rambling about how unbalanced & 💩 Doomsday (Reservoir Leauge), and this year just did the spesial super duper Leaugue only for special cookies with entry ticket 100K $? If that feedback about 70K is true.

[marble grove]

Yes the frag you dont need for cross over S/o 🤣

[marble grove]

Cannot be unbalanced if you're not allowed to participate...

It's just crazy 400 people from 1300 states and like 10 of them are in same alliance (I only checked for one alliance)

[trim lance]

Hello, there was a feedback about this event, you can upvote it if you think same #📋︱feedback-reporting message

Or you can of course make you own feedback about it. If you need help to write it down just let me know

[cloud ridge]

Well, there is suppose to be just one general feedback on x thing rather than mutiple

[trim lance]

Yes, but some people may not recognize themselves in one feedback and then prefer to write their own too

[wide wraith]

I wonder if those complaining about the entry conditions into the all stars event would still be complaining if they had been one of those selected

[cloud ridge]

It defeats the object of having one feedback and the point of it, but ok

[wide wraith]

feedback is ignored anyway so it doesnt matter how many there are

[cloud ridge]

It is, but when you're suppose to check that there's no duplicate feedbacks on same topic to ensure votes dont get spread out and diluted

By asking others to make their own feedback on same issue, it defeats the purpose

But not my job I guess

[wide wraith]

well when the weekly totals are collated, similar feedbacks should be added into one but that never happens anyway

[cloud ridge]

Would make sense, but not sure how they do it

Its hard to get a simple answer to things

[cursive vessel]

I think they add similar feedbacks together but then that makes some feedbacks that get sent forward weird 😂

[wide wraith]

its almost impossible to get any answer on the mechanics of the feedback system, most dont know how it works anyway

[cursive vessel]

So I think it messes up what people actually ask for

[cloud ridge]

I dont think most who write the feedback even know what they want or understand it

[cursive vessel]

That is also true

But when similar ones get merged together it makes it even worse

[wide wraith]

one answer could be if a certain thing starts to dominate the feedback, open a thread about it with a dedicated Dev, CM, all-stars would be a perfect example

oh wait that would take some resemblance of common sense or mean a Dev/CM would actually have to interact with the largest group of stakeholders

[fallow lodge]

this servers not even connected to the devs anymore. the mods just dont want to accept it. feedbacks an absolute waste of time....devs just insulted 90+% of the games player base and will have no care. they basically just told everyone only a few matter. as if they had the nuts to make an event for a small few, thats one hell of a bad sign imo

[wide wraith]

I have been saying the same for a while, even the SLMods dont care anymore

[stable anvil]

Tf is wrong with koth

Marches locked after losing and cant find it. Have to reset gave twice now just to revive and send it

[cloud ridge]

That's normal

[feral mango]

I enjoy the part in koth when it won’t let me send troops to key cities when they open without reloading the game

[torn rain]

new Azurtane . Please, does anyone have a list of the new talents? and, what is the practice period? can we lose positions during the practice period? When are groups formed? And why are some players on the list we were given? What is that list for? And who isn't on the list? if none of my allies were there? 😱 who can answer, please. the players that play the game before all the others (the Beta players) could help? 🫣

[earnest flare]

yeah,... at this point they should just go out and say this .. is a celebs and billionaire kids game ... giving us a 400 people invited azur heist mode only is just disgusting at this point lol

--

atleast theyre not on my Azur map .. tearing me a new hole ... as I try to gather just enough gas for the speedups rewards you get

[wide wraith]

guess this is outspoken but i am happy that i am not one of the chosen few

[thorny hornet]

is the game down for anyone else or just me?

back in

[misty pewter]

No amount of complains or suggestions will change anything. This game is at this point is just designed to feed the ego of spenders. As low spenders or f2p, just play whatever is possible and get the free stuff. I have way more fun playing my alt and hoarding stuff than my main account... Maybe some egomaniac can burn my main and I can finally quit 😂

[median snow]

It feels like at every transfer there are more and more big spenders who quit so FP decides to double up on upgrades for those of us who remain.

[jolly harness]

you'll see even more people quit whenever the higher spenders unlock the last lizard skill, it will break SVS completely

[median snow]

Until they nerf it like everything else we try to work on. 😂

[jolly harness]

they need to nerf it

it's way to overpowered

[earnest flare]

for sure ,.. it looks waaay too overpowered lol

[buoyant moat]

If i get back to my dead account
Its been more then 4 years now

Is it worth it?

[jolly harness]

not really, better start new

[jolly harness]

doesn't only look that way, it just is that way

[buoyant moat]

It looks like long way to do that

[jolly harness]

we ware at P18 now, you are WAY WWAY WAY WAY WAT behind

[buoyant moat]

Can't I transfer

If I start over it will be hell behind

[jolly harness]

if you start over you're equal to new players, you are hell behind now

[real pine]

You can transfer but it will still be the same. It is hard to take an old account and bring it back to life.

[buoyant moat]

I lost hope in this

[wintry pagoda]

The last lizard skill can be used just once every 24 hours. Isn’t it?

[halcyon berry]

i think its twice every 23hrs

[wintry pagoda]

There was a video that showed the damage wasn’t really great and for some reason I thought it is just once a day

[jolly harness]

Twice every 23h.
Porting away doesn't work cause if the skill doesn't hit it won't be in cooldown

[jolly harness]

The damage will depend on how many troops you have.
More troops = more damage and also how strong the person is launching the skill

[jolly harness]

And think otherwise. Think about how this will effect SVS.
Rally leads getting this skill thrown at them while they are marching, either porting away and cancel rally or suffer huge amounds of loses letting the skill hit.
And if porting doesn't bring the skill in cooldown it will be the whole SVS fight thst people throw this skill.
Never having a second to throw a rally without your hospital being filled and having dead troop.
And then your rally does hit and it will be 100% dead troops cause thr lizard skill already filled your hospital

[real pine]

And then you get all the troops back anyways when the SvS is over. It does seem like it is going to change the game for the bigger players but we shall have to see. Itll be a while before it comes into fruition.

[wide wraith]

no you dont get all back you always lose a percentage

[jolly harness]

You can get 99% back but that isn't the point. It's killing SVS as a whole cause the 0.1% tactical play left in SVS is gone now.
You can be in 1 FF and launch thr skill to the lead another FF to make him jump and lose the buidling

[real pine]

If i remember correctly, people had the same gripe over Wall Destroyer when it first came out.

[jolly harness]

Wall destoyer goes in cooldown and can only be used once.

This skill doesn't go in cooldown when it doesn't hit

So it can be used over and over again until it does hit

It's not in live server yet. But you'll see soon enough

[wintry pagoda]

I am not opposing your view point but is there another scenario. Mostly we get a deal for no settlement attacks during fighting. That means at Svs this won’t be an issue, assuming the skill is going to be devastating

[real pine]

Yeah but if you use the WD you have to port or get ported. Same thing with the skill. WD is also a lot more accessible for people. I think they should add a cooldown on settlements that get hit with the skill the same way WD has.

After you get hit with it once, you arent allowed to get hit with it again until the cooldown period is up.

[jolly harness]

After you wall is on fire.

But when you have the same or less skills maxed then the one you use the skill one. The wall won't be on fire and then the skill can be used again

[wide wraith]

i can see a lot of players building T1 troops to sacrifice to that skill

or maybe not upgrading intel troops just to use as a sacrifice

[real pine]

We will have to wait and see how it is when its in the live before we can make any feedbacks about it. If you want to add another feedback about it, you can do so in the ptr discord. I think there is already a feedback on there about it that has hit most of the talking points you've had Dwight.

[jolly harness]

It targets highest level troops first

[stable cosmos]

Unless its killing 100% troops in base, its bately going to matter when you get right down to it. You can send some iff to occupy early on to keep them safe and we're talking whales. Svs is mostly slow, they'll just train a march worth and accelerate it with bios or speedups.

[jolly harness]

When your hospital is full. It's 100% dead troops

[wide wraith]

guess this it a display error then

it states lowest level

[jolly harness]

Even then. Training T1 enough to cover it will take a lot

[wide wraith]

well best to start now lol

no more upgrading troops

most rally leads have more than enough high level troops but really one gigawhale bullies will ever use it, most players wont bother

[stable cosmos]

I think the reduction in march speed will hurt more than the troop loss

[sage girder]

It's a whale on whale fighting skill, not bad really

[real pine]

Yes but it also has some ramifications against lower level players but only time will tell how it effects them. Most of the lower level players are gonna be shielded during SvS anyways so they wont have to worry about it.

[misty pewter]

Have the whales complain about not having enough burn targets in free for all stage, maybe dev will come out with a whale skill that can break a shield and kill off 75% of the troops…. Woohoo! 😂

[jolly harness]

Would honestly not suprise me at this point.
4th companion with just that skill or a 5th plane or a second carrier

[haughty nova]

Same still no luck

[candid raptor]

Lot's of players from ranks 400 also quit a long time as well, devs are stupid for that

[split nebula]

Oh really?

[halcyon berry]

99%of them still very active i guess

[scenic fractal]

hi friends, maybe you talked about this already... How was the selection performed for azurtane all-star event ? i'm surprised not to find some pretty strong players in the list (some present in the top 100 all-states)

[halcyon berry]

noone knows

gm say overall strength

but i couldnt care less

imagine soon the new doomsday only top 50 ally allowed to play 🤣🤣

[jolly harness]

Yes really

Some quit for moths

[sage girder]

I prefer butterflies

[forest kiln]

$$$ ? We have 1 player in our state in that 400, he is usually on and off, last few months he was on & was spending activelly... not in any global rankings

[muted terrace]

Soo top 400 is the 400 who spent the most within last couple of months

[forest kiln]

Maybe... we dont know really ranking range below top 100. As far as I see in current stage out of 400 only 126 players went for this 💩 so far. So whats the point of this "event"?

I'm not sure our rally lead even was aware that he supposed to participate🤣

[muted terrace]

[halcyon berry]

i bet they thought people now start to play azurtane again

was the worst choice try to make azurtane a big event

[spark kindle]

We would start playing if they updated the rewards

But ofc that would be too simple

[trim lance]

Good evening, if you think the rewards for azurtane are not worth it you can write a feedback about it.
If you need help to write it down let me know

[spark kindle]

You are probably new here ☺️ I appreciate your concern but it will be a no from me.

[forest kiln]

Yes... I remember a lot of feedback about updating regular AH rewards, since the rewards did became outdated almost immediately after the AH 1st release, but instead they created an AH League for SVIPs. Whoever came with this idea, I'm not questioning their IQ level already.🤣

[forest kiln]

AH rewards not worth since forever, same for CC, Bunkers and around 70% events and stores in SOS. People just tired to leave this kind of feedbacks, since it's change nothing

[halcyon berry]

for me i only play events i like to play rest i couldnt care

[barren mango]

honnest question: is it possible to get LV10 store in Migo, just playing Tidal as F2p ? or is it just a scam ?

[wide wraith]

its borderline, if you max the bonus every time and use the coins is possible just

[jolly harness]

Lv10 should be quite easy to get

[barren mango]

so, in short, it's a scam

[barren mango]

without planning all stupid tasks and without paying ?

[wide wraith]

no, it just takes a little thought

[barren mango]

you can't get it if you don't optimize from start, right ? I just played at least 3 of these fooking uninterresting game... for nothing... since I completed all the milestones...

[wide wraith]

the 3d modules helps the alliances ship to grow

[barren mango]

was not my point... I brought 10k on each attempts of this stipid game , to my alliance

just genuinely asking if anyone can raise boat up to get lv10 store, without paying?

and tbh... alliance ship upgrade do not change game....

[wide wraith]

but you mentioned doing tidal for nothing after the milestones and yeah alliance ship upgrades to change skirmish

[barren mango]

it s just like help your team, we will win easier... but thats nothing...

[wide wraith]

depends on your point of view really

[barren mango]

yes I still bring 3d modules to the alliance. but nothing for my own store...

I lived many skirmish in different team... boat defences are nothing

it s only about online players , same than for koth

[wide wraith]

i have a lvl 25 hovercraft, not f2p but it makes no real difference

[barren mango]

i don t care about a diff... it make diff in migo store... that s it. in tidal or skirmish, that s nothing

[wide wraith]

then really its the store that needs to change

[barren mango]

no worries😅 pretty obvious f2p are on the cleaning todo list atm😂

[misty pewter]

Migo should not have been paywalled or having the stall locked behind upgrading ship.

[stable anvil]

Same thing with previous migo but when players had to fight over Mining crystals, lime and coal

[barren mango]

or just make it clear... then we save time😂

[stable cosmos]

Heres a world event. Pay up or you can't play it. So, not a world event then. City event. Small village maybe. That one group of preppers who went to live in the middle of nowhere

[spark kindle]

Private party for a-listers and their entourage

[wide wraith]

what is the point of the new surfaces just adds more lag and uses up rss, another pointless addition

[solemn kraken]

give us back the old UI

[hollow crater]

if you're talking about wrist link you can turn off from your profie > settings > game.

but if you're talking about the oooollddd UI and reports, it's been a while and i don't even remember how it looks like

[wintry pagoda]

what do you mean uses up bios? did they add a new UI?

[wide wraith]

this

ok meant rss but still whats the point of it, teach me only to look when half asleep

[solemn kraken]

no, the old UI looked different, had different graphics for buildings and stuff

[solemn kraken]

'roads? we don't need no roads!'

and why would you need a dual-carriageway inside your settlement?

[wide wraith]

as for the other 3 what were the devs smoking when they came up with them

[wintry pagoda]

it didnt take any bios though, at least not right away. not sure if there is a limit beyond which it uses bios

[wide wraith]

yeah could be i was still half asleep and seeing things

but still whats the point of it

[magic nebula]

Spending all our money in game instead of in our house, now we can now build a nice home in game it seems

[spark kindle]

You object to it when they bring features that affect game play
You object to it when they add purely cosmetic features
So what is it that you want exactly

[wide wraith]

if you knew anything about computers and/or programming you would know the more junk you add, the more it will lag

[fallow lodge]

if you can update heist rewards devs because deep down you kinow you messed up playing favourites im guessing you can easy update other event rewards yeah😉 😉

[cloud ridge]

[stable anvil]

I love to play my game with more useless junk and more lag

[forest kiln]

🤔

Whereis Mining Mayhem in this?

[spark kindle]

That wasn't tied to migo so doesn't constitute seasonal event

Underground exploration os not there either which was actually a migo evebt

[forest kiln]

1st few times it was part of the seasons,

[spark kindle]

Was it? I might be remembering it incorrectly then, did we have mm missions as migo tasks

[forest kiln]

That time no, as far as I remember. But Mining Mahem was main sourse of glory points, then it was part of the season, before they did that stupid alliance ranking ... veteran, master, and smth else

[spark kindle]

Apparently I blacked out during that part because I have zero memory of it 😂

[spark kindle]

Oh cool thank you

In this case it makes no sense to exclude it from the questionnaire

[forest kiln]

1st season was good, before they did that alliance rankings & only chance to get smth was to play in Master

[warped ruin]

no comment

[forest kiln]

Wow, 3 years later?

[trim lance]

I had the same today

[jolly harness]

Better late then never

[warped ruin]

I didn't play azurtane since two years 😄

[halcyon berry]

but mm is gone for long and this survey only asked the last what 4 migos ?

[spark kindle]

I want underground 🥹

[halcyon berry]

yeah with the old rewards 🤣

[spark kindle]

[cerulean anvil]

literally yesterday submited a feedback #📋︱feedback-reporting message . don't say it's me but... you know 😉

[cloud ridge]

It'll be search maps

[vague shard]

We really need to get some stronger infected and fiends, else remove tasks involving healing troops.

[trim lance]

Good evening, you can write a feedback about it. If you need help to write it down let me know

[vague shard]

It’s probably reported a hundred times and they don’t care.

[trim lance]

We can never know if we won't try.
All that I know ,is that the feedback team forwards everything

There have already been changes following feedback, so i would suggest to keep writing it

[cloud ridge]

Be easier to remove healing task

But all you gotta do i set up a fake march to a level 6 fiend

Use yellow turtle, no plane, monke etc and just 1k troops

Like so

[stable anvil]

Soon devs decide well if infected are too weak let overpower them that way they get tons of wounded and hospital full just like they ask

Also if you want hospital and wounded troop then ask someone in the state to set up tents and then send a weak march of 1k or so troops and poof their goes what you need

No need to waste stamina for infected wounded troops when you can send a march and get the same results

Or instead of healing all troops after svs save them for the following week to use on TD task

[vague shard]

There are plenty of solutions to the problem. But why should we need to do special things to get a few wounded just because they have tasks that they created 5 years ago when our powers was 1% of what we have now, but they made almost no difference on infected.

Same goes for trap. Start 1 rally then you can leave because you already reached max level of rewards

[stable anvil]

And

Trap is good as is. Do 1 rally and you got points. Or if you want to do tons of rallies to get the same rewards then do that also

[marble grove]

114/400 didnt score a single point in the azure event... what a great event 😂

[stable anvil]

Why should others have to suffer just for aomething not necessary. When you make a feedback you need to be thoughtful about how much stronger they needed to be. Not just say stronger than they normally are because their is no threahold limit to where devs should stop

[vague shard]

Trap was more interesting when it was a challenge. Can we reach next level this time or we need to get more online.

[stable anvil]

Thats why lvl 6 fiends were stronger and they cause tons of hospital/wounded for some when it was released and players asked for it to be lowered

[marble grove]

I still wouldnt turn up if this was the case or not 🤣

[stable anvil]

Not even worth it

[cloud ridge]

Dino intel is another easy source for wounded

[stable anvil]

Exactly

[cloud ridge]

But if they introduce a higher fiend people will complain its too hard

[marble grove]

Im not focusing my life around a game 🤣 I'll play on my time thanks 😆

[cloud ridge]

We know they dont know a power gap if they made one

[stable anvil]

Just like the lvl 6 fiend when it was released

[cloud ridge]

So do the easy way to get wounded

[vague shard]

Last heist was a long time ago 😄

[stable anvil]

Yup heist i just go in get 150k and dip,trap get my stuff and dip

[cloud ridge]

Or better, ask they remove that task

Frankly I wish we only had to do like 6/8 like for some events to get max score and not all of them

[marble grove]

I mean the ongoing whale event with 400 players out of 1300 states, 114 didnt show up for it

[cloud ridge]

Inconsistent with points from tasks, inconsistent with clicking on one task will automatically claim the others

[vague shard]

Oooh, is that heist. I feel sorry for them 😄

[marble grove]

I mean the whale event going on

[stable anvil]

Either too busy, wromg matching time they didn't pick not like devs can fix that if their life depends on it. Or they could care less because they are tired of playing heist

[marble grove]

I said azure, not heist 😉😆

[stable anvil]

Also this heist is practice not the actual elimination so thats another reason

[vague shard]

Oooh, I connect those words in my nightmares

[marble grove]

Im not sure this is Heist event, as heist never had teams

[stable anvil]

Its heist

Just fancy for mega whales

The event drops them in side but when it comes to advancing you either need to be in top 30 of the winning side or top 20 of the losing side

So people of same side can hit people of their own team if it means they can advance

[marble grove]

Yet over 1/4 didnt show up, so instead the devs put all this effort for it to be wasted; and some sides lose because others dont want to play 🤣 that's probably worse than just making it for everyone

[stable anvil]

Imagine if rank 30 and 31 hitting each other so one goes up and the other stays

[stable anvil]

Overall lame work on devs. They couldn't even make a putt putt version for other players

[vague shard]

400 players from 24 different timezones, of course not all show up on same time for event, especially midweek

[cloud ridge]

Awful event is awful

[wide wraith]

thank you 55 wounded from that

[drifting viper]

I throw in Travis too. I know you get stam back but its helpful when you dont have alot to begin with. Yellow turtle is such a smart idea!

[wide wraith]

tryed it with joker but a full march(by mistake), killed the lvl6 and got over 700 wounded

[real pine]

Well there you go! Just have to make a march preset with joker and a full march and theres the wounded you need for the daily.

[wide wraith]

yup and for other things

[cloud ridge]

You can always adjust the troop count till you find a sweet spot which gives you a decent batch a wounded to last a while

[stable cosmos]

The heal task is currently 10 troops. Just send without heroes or behemoths. It'll take less than an hour to heal that much

[jolly harness]

Train a batch of T1'' and rally a lv6 fiend

[cloud ridge]

Its easy to do

I'd just rather they make the point tasks consistent with how much you actually need to do and how easy they are

Explore missions are annoying as well

[cursive vessel]

I just send a certain amount of troops (without heroes, behes, planes etc) and attack the behe intel

[fleet yarrow]

Oh im try that

[fleet yarrow]

But they put same time choices as Squirmish. So folks can not do both.

[real pine]

I just always forget to the explorer missions. Hitting my screen 20 times isnt that painful though.

[fleet yarrow]

How you have enough bread. I always run out

[real pine]

There is a lot more time consuming things in this game than clicking plunder 10 or 15 times

[fleet yarrow]

We dont need both.. a way to get wounded or remove task frequency

[stable cosmos]

Don't even do all the dailies any more. Some stuff is worth it. Some not so much.

Also lost the trex intel when i unlocked behemoth 4 so that was nice

[fleet yarrow]

How you get so much bread???? Stories ate all mine

[hollow crater]

if you are playing at older state, you'll recieve as crate but on newer state i assume 200+ it's automaticly filling your stamina and there is no capacity

[woeful oak]

Even when doing 1 troop t1 vs level 6 fiend I get 0 wounded..

[cloud ridge]

Whale struggles

[wide wraith]

try either joker or michelangelo with 1k troops, no behemoths, no planes or vehicles against a lvl 6

[loud blaze]

If outposts only goto the borders, how is one supposed to take alliance factories in the grey zone? What's the point? Other than eating up real estate at the fortresses. Someone please make it make sense.

[hollow crater]

I am not familiar with new states but i will try to find information or co-mod for answers

[vague shard]

Lots of suggestion on how we can handle the problem with wounded so the developer don't need to do their job 😄

[spark kindle]

just use joker with a little amount of troops

when they first released lvl 6 fiends, they were so strong that I couldn't kill that. I don't know how many materials I lost but I almost quit out of frustration. we should be considerate of possible outcomes of new adjustments before demanding them.

[wide wraith]

i used joker with full balanced march killed the level 6 but just over 700 wounded

[vague shard]

In old states we have bread

[solemn kraken]

just use weaker troops

[hollow crater]

Actually, many suggestions are being considered. A major update for Azurtane was announced very soon, and thanks for that feedback tho. It been ages that i haven't play azurtane #📌︱game_updates message

[hollow crater]

Yes, i agree with that. I mostly use only 90k troops for dailies. and it makes lot's of injuries.

[wide wraith]

until then its up to players to come up with creative solutions

[solemn kraken]

ah use the suggested Leo hero against lvl 21 infected, that gives me a couple hundred injured 😛

[spark kindle]

you won't get wounded with a full march, it is not difficult to think and adjust your march but of course you needed new material to complain about.

[wide wraith]

i did,

[vague shard]

Or just find a F2P alliance to bully. So many solutions

[hollow crater]

You can try to use this comp against level 6 infected and you'll see there will be injuries enough to make dailies.

[vague shard]

I know there are many solutions, but why should we need to use weak marches/special heroes just because game has become unbalanced and they keep tasks that was made as a simple task that everyone finished easy years ago when game was more balanced.

[wide wraith]

well might as well use Joker for something, useless for anything else

[vague shard]

My Joker resonance level 2, so he don't give that much extra wounded.
But guessing many is happy doing their special marches to get wounded. And sure there are more important things that need to be fixed in game, so just a minor thing

[wide wraith]

try Michelangelo then with less troops

[vague shard]

As I said, I know there are solutions. But still find it stupid that we need to send bad marches to finish bad tasks.

[wide wraith]

we used to have to do that to get fiend tasks many years ago

sending fake marches to get like 50 rallies

[vague shard]

some still do it to fill the 500 in migo

[wide wraith]

exactly, so its always been a part of the game

[halcyon berry]

[sage girder]

Got to admit, I liked Nexus having higher level fiends.

[real pine]

I miss people asking me to set rallies on the level 5 and 6 fiends cause they couldn't beat them

[cloud ridge]

If only there was a screenshot provided before which showed a set up that worked

[wide wraith]

i remember on lvl6s needing to have a full march to be able to beat them

[cloud ridge]

New infected would just clutter map and cause another wave of complaints that its too hard to beat

Removing healing task would be easier, but they could replace it with something more annoying

[halcyon berry]

its not about the solutions , devs need do something 🤣

[cloud ridge]

Just use a fake march on dino Intel and be done with it, will take literally a few seconds to set up

[wide wraith]

the issue is yeah they could remove it and add something even worse

[cloud ridge]

Devs need to focus on more important things than these sort of very meh debates

[halcyon berry]

you know easiest thing dont heal during svs

[sage girder]

I remember even monkey and dino intel being hard to beat at high levels!

[cloud ridge]

I'd love it if they removed explorer and healing task

[halcyon berry]

and you have enough troops to heal

explorer task are fast

30 clicks done

[cloud ridge]

Its weird how people never seem to have wounded after svs

Like they dont want to help state

[sage girder]

Or hit people outside of svs/cc

[cloud ridge]

Fast yes, just every time I do my 10 x missions there seems to be a new pass that requires it next day

Just the tedious of going back and forth into it

But its easy

[halcyon berry]

tbh when the healing rate is insane good i also always try to heal

[cloud ridge]

Whats that?

We dont have it 😂

[halcyon berry]

but you talk about the healing from these passes ?

[sage girder]

Have you never won prep/svs??

[halcyon berry]

bro i buy the steps with bios if i need 🤦‍♂️

[cloud ridge]

No, not from auto tap.

Just when say people even in svs alliance seem to refuse to tap tap

[cloud ridge]

Yes, prep win more than war

[cloud ridge]

If i really cba I do, but try not to waste if can

[halcyon berry]

no i mean this debate about healing is for the tasks at the event passes ?

[cloud ridge]

Yes

To complete the tasks

[halcyon berry]

🤦‍♂️

use bios if need

[cloud ridge]

Why its a very meh thing to even want changed

I get it, to a degree

But its easy to work around

Literally just send a fake march and you're done in seconds

Simples

[halcyon berry]

thats so dumb feedback again we have other bigger problems

[cloud ridge]

Next feedback will be level 7 fiend is too strong and needs to be nerfed

[wide wraith]

I did a slightly different work around to kill the lvl6 but if it wasnt for you i would miss them out so again thank you

[cloud ridge]

You're welcomes

Sure, there's other ways, hitting a tile, farm account blah blah

But those are a lot more tedious to do

[halcyon berry]

use turtles and you have enough wounded

[cloud ridge]

Play the game and you'll have enough wounded

It is no issue

[wide wraith]

i was a little short on the turtles so switched to joker

[cloud ridge]

Joker is fine

You can do without heros and just up troop amount

Just need to find the sweet spot then save the march

[wide wraith]

sending a balanced march also gave me a kill for the fiend migo tasks

[vague shard]

For being a small feedback it really started big discussions 😄

Wrote it since it’s a small thing that they can fix. I don’t think they can fix those major things that are slowly killing the game.

[wide wraith]

the only issue i would have, is what would they replace it with

[vague shard]

Simple solution and that would be more accurate. If you send a full march out to kill 2M infected, I would count on at least 10 of them come back with sprained foot or something similar.

[stable cosmos]

I'd like a lvl7 fiend. In fact I'd like the fiend progression to be 5-6-7-8-9 and get rid of 1-2-3-4

9 can need a rally lead, i don't care. Make it beastly. With rewards to match so rallying fiends needs more than a solo hit

[vague shard]

Or make 3 different, Hard, Medium and Easy. Hard get stats from maybe 100th strongest player in state, Medium get half of that and Easy get what we have today

[misty pewter]

Just don't heal all after svs, I keep about 5-10k wounded troops for the daily needs

[vague shard]

And constantly have the shortcut to quick heal

I usually heal all troops on monday for easy points in throwdown

[halcyon berry]

i do tempest at saturday and have enough for the migo tasks 🤣

[cloud ridge]

The heal shortcut only shows if troops to heal

Why need if no troops to heal

A small thing they can "fix", but what would it be in an ideal world and what would it be in a FP world.

Likewise for the major things killing the game to fix them is easy, stop rigging odds for things like tempest, genes, gems etc

Oh, not adding more rubbish to game would also make it less dead

Lots of things they can do easily, they just choose not to

[vague shard]

For me biggest problem is the extreme power difference between players. And it gets worse every time they release something new.
Effortless progress is a great thing, but it needs to be updated so oldest things actually can be maxed by mid/low spenders and finally by f2p.

Half a year ago, and it will only get worse until everyone quits

[hollow crater]

Hey Eve!
I'm sorry to say I couldn't find a clear or official explanation regarding this situation. I've asked around, but there's no specific answer. If you think this is limiting your gaming experience, you can create a feedback report in your in-game profile > settings > help&support, or you can create a report here #📋︱feedback-reporting message . My DMs are always open if you need help.

[cloud ridge]

Asking for harder fiends is not going to help said power gap 👀

[misty pewter]

Seriously at this point, the power gap is fun to watch. There are whales and whales wannabes… love it when the whale wannabes keep spending and showing off…. Kinda like spitting at the sky 😂

[woven spire]

Could say that about every player lol

[opal pilot]

@vague shard could you dm me

[stable cosmos]

Nothing will help the power gap. Well,nothing they're willing to do will help it.

[stable anvil]

2 years of no updates might help

Might get people up about 35 to 50 percent more

[stable cosmos]

They could even continue updates but make the jumps of each new thing smaller. So if you buy the latest and greatest its a 1% bounce rather than 10.

Haydens BP is already greater than geralds and he's not even purple yet for me, which shows their balance is pretty lacking that a blue incomplete hero out powers red.

[scenic fractal]

Please devs, do not cancel next SvS 🥺

[winter echo]

I’m hopeful we don’t have three SotF in a row again. 🙈 The announcement when it happened the second time said they were adjusting it back to the normal schedule so hopefully we see this.

[scenic fractal]

just a gentle reminder

[wide wraith]

they need to comfirm as soon as possible one way or another as it effects the way some will play

[stable cosmos]

Well they won't do that. Improve things for people? Never. Gotta set your expectations.

[wide wraith]

yeah wont know until the friday before the middle SVS

[stable anvil]

Devs will ignore

[jolly harness]

Even 2y of no updates can't fix the power gap

And tbh they don't need to fix that part. Spenders are stronger, that's the way it is...
They should fix matchmaking

[stable cosmos]

The thing about the gap is its fine that there is one. The issue is that it is such a massive powergap.

Its like, we'd like a close race. So although my car is always beaten,its only beaten by 5 seconds or so. Whereas what we have is my car is beaten cos it was lapped 15 times by a tank and then run over before its done a lap.

[cloud ridge]

There should always be a power gap, but how wide said gap is currently is awful.

They could easily change things to close it, but never will.

[vague shard]

If you don’t think they need to fix the power gap, then you are lucky that you never fought a really strong whale. If looking at the report I replied to, the player getting burned by a solo would be a top 10 player in majority of states and he had 0 chance even with 35M troops behind barricades.

Easily fixed by just change the stats you get from barricades. Getting a few 100% attack don’t help at all now when maxed heroes have thousands of %, switch it to amplification instead and it will follow when heroes gets stronger

[halcyon berry]

i beat people with 2k moral the last one was 2550 moral

[vague shard]

Not my friend, was opponent in SvS that got burned as soon as he joined a rally

[halcyon berry]

but there are more then 1 strength gap in this game one between the i say normal spender and whale and after that when you think how crazy strong your enemy was there is also a bigger gap between the "whale" and the real whales which makes it insane

[vague shard]

But with 35M troops and that morale, you should be strong enough to survive a solo

[halcyon berry]

he had angelica and lara 😅

[jolly harness]

I have fought plenty of them.

[vague shard]

And still think it’s ok to get burned easy by a whale. Or maybe you are the whale 🙂

The day I got burned just as easy was also the day I stopped spending. Never spent much, but why should they get any of my money that helps nothing

Change barricades so joiners can join rallies without getting burned

[halcyon berry]

the other question is was the enemy lead ? and was the march he used his main and at barricade his 2nd or 3rd ?

because if it was the 2nd or 3rd why did he join with his first which is not needed

[vague shard]

According to me it shouldn’t matter if it’s his 6th march defending. 35M troops behind barricades should never loose against 400k attackers.

[woven spire]

Their matching is "fine"

The issue is the power gap

Which makes matching bad

Its rare to see equal team for few reasons

1. Not many people left as before 2. There is so many levels of spending/power

[jolly harness]

Tier based matching with the option to stay in same tier is beyond dumb

[woven spire]

Ye thats true but mean the matching itself

Take svs

[jolly harness]

Broken

[woven spire]

Nah its just that you cant really be matched equal

I cant name 1 team thats equal to mine lol

Either stronger or weaker

[halcyon berry]

svs until last we had 3 svs in a row which were really really good ngl

[jolly harness]

Wreck or get wrecked

[woven spire]

Exactly

Even leads have huge gaps

Thats how stupid it became

[jolly harness]

What's the point in playing if you know you win or lose a week before

[halcyon berry]

like us 🤣

[woven spire]

Ye tbh idk🤣

Close fights are very rare

1 whale can decide svs alone

[halcyon berry]

a smart whale

[woven spire]

Dont need be smart

[halcyon berry]

the svs 6 weeks ago enemy had also a whale which we only could kick with double but we were smarter

[woven spire]

If u cant kick out mid its gg

He just needs more then 2 braincells

This sums our svs up

[halcyon berry]

so we wd him 2nd round so we could sit longer at center and at end we kicked twice their joiners so they couldnt kick us

[woven spire]

Also they should lock spending

Your stats should be locked during svs

I f hate when u can just start buying packs to win during events

It makes the game so unejoyable

[halcyon berry]

they only need rework the point getting system in my opinion

[woven spire]

Ye mid needs to stop giving more then everything combined

[halcyon berry]

so you cant win svs with only hold middle and loose every other fac

[woven spire]

All facs same points mid double

Easy

Also take the stupid grey walk away and make it 2/1min

[vague shard]

Ours was so fun, opponent left after losing first round

[halcyon berry]

not for devs 🤣

[woven spire]

If you first in mid cause better ping. You got like 10minutes free

[woven spire]

Cant blame them

We also didnt play against FIT and GOD

Didnt even try prep

If you way weaker whats the point

You burn left and right and just donating points and filling hospital

[vague shard]

I miss the time when double rallies worked, making a perfect timing could kick anyone

[woven spire]

Ye but rightnow if it works

You dont have anyone to replace who goes to double

For example the leave alliance ghost rally still works

If you weaker you need 3 top leads to counter it

1 to double

1 to ghost

Its just dumb ashell

[halcyon berry]

• 21 strong joiner

[woven spire]

Wait till the non chasers quit. These people will match eachother and spend to beat during match

[halcyon berry]

because only 1 player can join 1 rally

[woven spire]

Exactly its super dumb

Better just giveup

[halcyon berry]

we do same

[woven spire]

Having the stronger lead in svs is improving ur chances by 50%+

In rr its a different story ofc

[woven spire]

As long you can reset

[halcyon berry]

i saw this last svs and i said nope i wont have a chance

[woven spire]

Ur the main lead?

[halcyon berry]

one of the leads . i am strong but not crazy strong

[woven spire]

Ye that guy seems

Like a big dumb spender

No offense

To him🤣

[halcyon berry]

he had 3 assassination trap IV at end in his first march

[woven spire]

Lmao

Are his spec ops even 7?

[halcyon berry]

his 2nd march 🤣

[halcyon berry]

i have no clue didnt know how to check

[woven spire]

Omg

I dont even have 1 assan trap

Dont want pur 2k on a tempest skill

Just to get new gear next season

🤣

[halcyon berry]

i have 1 sacred oath because i saved long enough at the bullet event

but then i have solid tempest thats it

[woven spire]

Thats long saving haha

Tempest is the biggest waste in this game

Along genetics

[halcyon berry]

50% was saving

[woven spire]

Sure strong

But u can do it for free and get decent stuff

You dont need top notch

[halcyon berry]

yeah

in my opinion they should give ascends way easier/cheaper

20€ for 1 and then end with a common skill is dumbest what can happen

[stable cosmos]

I have decided that feeding frenzy, dumb as it is perfectly encapsulates this product.

Level 1 is so simple you cannot fail. Its impossible to fail, even if you try.

Then in level 2 you cannot pass unless you spend money. Minor shot if you have more luck than 7000 other people and manually map the whole board, ie grinding more than is sensible

[misty pewter]

It’s another form of lottery…. The forever chase for the next winning ticket

[thorny plume]

Pardon mon français, mais c’est quoi cette merde ?

Crates caught as becca isnt mine. Then why the actual f is she there then? Its my encounter, not hers

[thorny plume]

Thats kinda decent

@woven spire the marking trap, i put on inf. Am I right to assume inf is the best spot for it since its technicly a debuff skill so it gives you one extra useful damageslot. Assuming its a decent heal on the other inf piece

[stable anvil]

She is there to mess up your overall combo/point progress.

[woven spire]

Think rider is the best spot

Inf is ok but

rather have the healing

[halcyon berry]

i have marking trap on rider and hunter work same on both

[woven spire]

Everywhere the same yes

[thorny plume]

Good point, i coupled with a oath for inf so that helps a little.
Had a second heal piece for inf but sold it to a real setter. He needs more.

Yea so my theory kinda right, that its same everywhere since its passive or what i should call it.

[thorny plume]

She no nice

[thorny plume]

But would it stack proper if I get a second piece for rider?

[woven spire]

Yes