📋︱feedback-discussion

[woven spire]

Or was 120000

One of those😂

Bbut its gone when around 1/3 is healed

[tardy night]

Ye gotta keep it at least 75% full. 90% better

120k is better than most get, some stuck at 3k lol

[woven spire]

kept it full

doesnt work

it lowers out no where

with books atm

[dusty hull]

Yes, this is one angle that I did notice. People will pick and choose where to focus when you give us 5 concurrent ranking events

But another thing they don't realize or understand.. If you limit the top rewards to only the top 3 in an event, like Bounty Blast, then anyone who had tried to rank top 3 and came up short, would be very upset about it and would probably be unhappy with the results, making them more likely to stop participating in these auctions/events. If a person spends a very high amount to rank, then give them the top rewards, regardless of rank. Like the latest Bounty Blast. You needed 20,000 points and to rank top 3 for the top rewards, if the top 5 all have between 40,000-50,000 points, they all deserve a top reward

Same with random number generating (RNG) winning/losing. Yes, it can help F2P who are lucky with RNG wins, but you are making a lot of people unhappy with RNG losses.

Like with the first orange ascension potions. Was it like 1/20 or 1/25 chance to pull an ultra-rare skill for Tempest Arms? Some will win in 5 tries, some 10, some 20, and some maybe 50 tries.. The nature of random numbers. You need to guarantee a win after a certain number of tries, to keep from making people angry about losing all the time

[digital glacier]

You're base duty rate is high as heel. Something tells me you have some setup wrong with 8m in enlistment and only 8k duty rate

When your duty rate drops, slowly pull out troops.

Why not send the full Pic and not just that tiny portion

[woven spire]

Cause i use snipping tool, i always cut the relevant

But idk, what would be wrong?

I limited hospital cap and enlist

And there is not 8mil in anymore, healed after dropped 2 days ago. healed them before DD

[digital glacier]

There's more that's relevant than just 8571 🫣

[woven spire]

Thing is, it drops after certain score

and it doesnt really return

Which make it takes months

I mean this

Start after svs (a day after)

[digital glacier]

@woven spire dm me full Pic

[woven spire]

It goes fast

after 1/3 left it drops to nothing

[digital glacier]

Blame your hospital being upgraded 🤣

[woven spire]

3.2mil left

Now its for 2 days this slow

lol

or 3

[soft gulch]

That is why the secondary market (trade) is flourishing for tempests.

[jade dagger]

🤣 demolition totally ruined POW now, that's all you see in matches now and it's just ridiculous. Only playing for the 10 creates win or lose and I'm done playing that garbage event ✌️

[cloud ridge]

Nice if we got that margin higher 😏

[digital glacier]

At this point. It doesn't matter if you pull them out or not, in the sense of recruiting these specific troops.

[scenic snow]

Hey dragon, would you like to create feedback about this?

[crimson pumice]

No, I love to share🙈

[strong grove]

@scenic snow

[scenic snow]

Hey Aeg, is this a question?

[strong grove]

At the end of each Migo season, the buff given by the Migo must be reset and when another Migo starts, it must start from 0 again.

[scenic snow]

This already happens, the migo buffs reset at the end of migo but your survival guide talent points stay

[strong grove]

Nope

I mean migo tallent

[scenic snow]

If you'd like to see that you should write up a feedback report in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[strong grove]

can you write ?

🙈

[digital glacier]

🤔 I don't get what you want or trying to say 🫣

[scenic snow]

Sure

[strong grove]

Thanks

[scenic snow]

@digital glacier They would like the talent points you earn from every migo to be reset instead of staying

[digital glacier]

Talent points for the survival guide 🤔

[scenic snow]

Yes

[digital glacier]

Oh fk no.

It's impossible to get to level 3 total warfare in 1 season.

And they have at least 4 levels of some things.

Meaning. It can't be maxed.... Ever.

The devs added more levels because points arent reset.

Survival book talent points is essentially a new version of chief level for talent points 😆🤣.....

[scenic snow]

@strong grove what is the reason you want it to be reset? What is the current issue with it?

[digital glacier]

Like MK2 is new mk1... Different stuff. But same thing. Same concept.

[strong grove]

Then the gap between the middle spenders and the big whales will narrow to some extent

[digital glacier]

It won't narrow.

[scenic snow]

I will include that in the report

[digital glacier]

Waste of feedback.
Nobody gonna like that sheet.

Id stop participating in migos if it got reset every season.
I'd lose 50% train and 200% heal speed.
🤣 Fffs. Seriously?
That feedback is nothing but to help spenders ensure the gap remains.

[scenic snow]

Observation:
The survival guide talent points from migo should be reset every migo

Consequences:
The gap caused by the talent points between big spenders and low/ftp players is too large due to these talents.

Suggested solution:
At the end of every migo season these talent points earned should be reset to decrease the gap.

@strong grove how's this?

[strong grove]

If everyone starts 1, no one loses. Even for someone who can't play for a few months, it's a relief

[strong grove]

Thanks

[scenic snow]

I will include this as an example

[digital glacier]

On a side note.
This probably has to be one of the dumbest answers I've heard yet

Umm...
If i reset it.

Couldn't I possibly upgrade the path 100% the exact same way again 🤷 How could I regret it 🤷

I reset my chief talents and reapply them the exact same way for operation festival secret task 🤣

[strong grove]

What if you can't play for a few months?

😅

[digital glacier]

Then you're several months behind on spaship, pets, behemoths. Aircrafts. Etc. 🤣

[scenic snow]

@strong grove I've made some changes, you can upvote it in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[strong grove]

I mean migo talent

[digital glacier]

If you don't play for 3 MOnths.
You're going to be behind on 3 months of everything.
Not just 3 months of migo talents 🙄

3 months is a whole generation of heroes 🤣

[strong grove]

3+

[digital glacier]

So, what, reset everyone's heroes when new heroes release too?

Easy question here.
Does upgrading the central outpost building give migo talent credits?

[strong grove]

This one

[digital glacier]

I understand that.

You want lv 22 to say lv 0, correct?

After migo ends?

[strong grove]

Yes

[digital glacier]

Ok.

So, think about this for a moment.

Easy question here.
Does upgrading the central outpost building give migo talent credits?

[strong grove]

Nope

[storm solstice]

That was the fastest downvote of feedback 🤣

[digital glacier]

Wrong. You get points that contribute towards a new level

One of the elites on knowledge. And what's best for players.
And a high popularity person who can have thousands downvoted your feedback 🤣

[storm solstice]

Migo talents aren't your main issue if you are out for a couple of month.

[digital glacier]

Not demand they do, but simply. Look at it and vote how they wish.

Thousands will downvoted that.

[storm solstice]

No one. Someone.

[spark kindle]

I don't think that feedback needs public pushing to get downvotes to oblivion. If I feel like it does, I will sure be asking for downvotes

[scenic snow]

They have received alot of feedback of how much people dont like it

[digital glacier]

I bred a tiger
Just to neglect the baby
😆

[scenic snow]

[strong grove]

Same to me

😅

[scenic snow]

I didnt touch breeding

[austere aurora]

What's the fkn point

[strong grove]

I need medicine

[digital glacier]

Fkn

[strong grove]

😅

[scenic snow]

Reminder to remember the #📖︱server_rules

[digital glacier]

🙄

[strong grove]

Shhh

[cursive vessel]

😂

[digital glacier]

How do you make babies 🤷
you force them to fk 🤷
Tigers don't lay eggs 🤣

[coarse verge]

The monkey king himself, and just to understand, you are leaving for a few months so we should all lose our stats?

[scenic snow]

Well actually you can make them with diamonds and a click of a button

[digital glacier]

Cheaper to buy 2 Tigers, breed them, sell them 🤣
Make money.

Doberman even cheaper 🤭

Dog food easy to buy.

[scenic snow]

I think its cheaper to buy real diamonds

[dusty hull]

I think the MIGO Book talents could be a deterrent to people who want to abandon their account for 3 months in order to transfer states. Normally spenders can regain power levels, but with the MIGO talents, you can't spend to get those back.

[digital glacier]

Abandoned account for 61 days for the transfer system that's a complete bs calculation?

Transfer tickets. No need to abandoned for 3 months. 🤷

[dusty hull]

DTS attemtps though, lower power hq to transfer after 3 months

So don't need invites, makes it harder

Lowering power can get you to transfer, but can't regain it in MIGO talents

[digital glacier]

So, let's think about this for a moment here.

Reset level progress to 0 at the end of every migo.

You do realize, spenders still going to get it high fast in comparison to everyone else?

You realize, that would be the next new money grab feature?

1 year ago, spend for rank and heroes and permanent talents

Those heroes not so good anymore.
And you want to make those talents go away too? 🙄

Might as well get rid of heroes when new heroes drop. Make everyone only have the current gen hero 🤷

[digital glacier]

You realize, reset talent book, drops power.
No need to be level 0.
Just 0 talent applied in the book 🤣

[forest nymph]

Migo book reset request so dumb I had to come to this god forsaken server and down vote it

[digital glacier]

So that's a mute point

[dusty hull]

Resetting MIGO talents impacts transfer power level, cost?

The goal of big spenders is to lay off 3 months to get under the need for invites. Then when they transfer, can spend to gain it back

But they miss out MIGO talent gains

[digital glacier]

Umm. They doing it wrong then 🤭

[dusty hull]

I'm not sure resetting MIGO talents lowers transfer power cost

Same as destroying special forces crystals, easy to spend to get those back

Or Tempest arms

But MIGO talents can't be bought

[digital glacier]

So, you see the point here in, survival guide doesn't effect your transfer cost 🤭

So, spends thousands for good TA, gems, troops.
And what, trash them to lower cost to transfer 🤷
To the spend thousands to get it all back 🤷

Why bother spending twice for 1 thing 🤷

If you gonna spend to trash to transfer to spend to regain, why bother taking a 3 month break 🤷

Seems like a 3 month break doesn't really do much 🤣 saves you what.... A few hundred $$

Maybe $1k
No offense.
If you got money like that to upgrade and trash and upgrade to regain.
Migo talents wont be an issue

[dusty hull]

My point is, people can go offline for 3 months, some big power HQs have done that. They will probably be below the power level that requires an invite to any state (to try to pack a state with bigs)..

But, with the MIGO talents, they can not make up that power loss, as they can with everything else, so it is a deterrent that way

If we have them reset migo talents every new migo, then people can go offline 3 months and not fear about migo talents

[digital glacier]

Anyone have a survival guide points cost per level breakdown?
Cause a max migo season gives 8160 points.
As you see at lv 22 it's 250.
But i know earlier levels are 200 maybe even less.
And higher levels cost a lot more.
So,

...
Sounds to me like resetting migo talents after every season to accomplish what you want isn't the issue.
Sounds to me like the issue is the low transfer cap limit.

Just sayin.

[dusty hull]

I know someone who was off for 3 months, and they are lagging big due to MIGO talents.. If they keep addiing more levels, like Total Warfare V, etc, then people will lag

If they don't add more talent levels, then they can eventually make it back

[digital glacier]

You know you'll NEVER EVER get training speed 1 & 2 & total warfare 3 unlocked, in 1 season?

So, think about all those potentials you'll lose out on.
All those skills buffs at hunter 3 call to arms, cc, etc. At higher levels.

[dusty hull]

I don't advocate for erasing our MIGO talent progress. That progress is the deterrent for people to take 3 months off

Keeps people playing, basically

[digital glacier]

Curious. What's your survival book progress to next level look like?
I know you're a big spender.

Or at least spend big in some events.

And if we're not talking about resetting progress, then how do you come up with a solution to this wanting to take a 3 months break 🤷 and my bad, I thought we were talking about you were in favor of resting it since that's what the feedback was about and your first comment seemed as if so....

[forest nymph]

It's gone

Job done

[digital glacier]

If you say offer bundles to make up for that, then your have to offer bundles to everyone.
Otherwise, you're advocating FOR players to take a 3 month break, and devs won't like that idea

And if you offer bundles to everyone for migo talent progress, then doesn't that defeat the purpose of upgrading the outhouse, cause those buffs expire and not much actual material retained that can't easily be won from other events or bought for $20 🤣
So. Yeah. About that.
And big spenders would buy all bundles, the gap of f2p vs mid spender vs big spender would increase more, but the big spender vs other big spender, will neither have an advantage over one another due to migo talents. 🤷

But that would also decrease the gap for some mid spenders who decide to buy out what they missed out on from previous seasons and stuff.
So there's that aspect too. Making more competition for actually trying to burn a mid spender 🤣 so there's that 🤷

[woven spire]

What is a mid spender in your eyes?/

[digital glacier]

How many down votes did it get before it got erased 😆

[woven spire]

I am wondering a bit. As people using the terms but have different definitions

[forest nymph]

A solid 25

[digital glacier]

Maybe I need say a mid-high spender.
like someone in the 60-70 percentile 😅

[forest nymph]

I must retire now, see yall when a new feedback fool appears

[woven spire]

Ye.. i said long ago a mid spender is 500 a month at best

[jade dagger]

Nahhh it won't do any good 👍🏼

[woven spire]

Now i would say 5k🤣🤣🤣

[digital glacier]

If you don't spend 1k a week, you are nobody in this game.

And I'm invisible 🤣

[storm solstice]

800 points for me to unlock next level

[woven spire]

Honestly my whole alliance dont even fall in the category mid spender🤣

Pure on spending

If we take standards of the top alliances ingame that is

[digital glacier]

Thank you.
800 points. = 5 talents
That's 10 / 102 upgrades in the migo book.
So, max book at your level gives roughly 50 talents.

That's not gonna make or break a megeldon
And if it does. Well, there's other aspects that probably could be bought that could make up for it.
Like TA stats, gems, pet breeding & skills, that missing statue that's not level 10 😆

Or simply. Just a redistribution of talents in the migo book.

[woven spire]

Tundra also gives points

you can do plenty of levels in a migo season actually

[digital glacier]

Yup.

[woven spire]

missing 90 days is anyway done

you not catching up if you dont spend 50k

at bare min

[digital glacier]

120 levels.
I think it's 20 points an upgrade 🤷 might be wrong. 🤷 Maybe it's less. Idk. I quit paying attention. So many changes in it. Let's say it is 20. That's 2400 points so 3 levels. 15 talents.
But at that high migo book, talent cost might increase to 900, or 1,000
Which would account for why it's not 65 talents. 🤷

[stable cosmos]

I hate how they do "skill trees" its so non-intuitive. Theres a branching path with 2 dead ends, you gotta upgrade both dead ends before continuing with the next node. Its so dumb

The original chief talents is correct. The migo exploration, crystal research and polymer research are all stupid

[digital glacier]

Agreed.
But There's not much dumb stuff in crystal tech.
Most of it, It let's you upgrade many things to a certain point, before having to max it from beginning to end.
Albiet, advanced research has troops and hospital cap that's on the sides that's requirement to progress, that's really the only dumb stuff.

Not like in comparison to survival book. Some nodes are the exact same thing but it's
0/1 & 0/2 & 0/2
Instead of 0/5

You mean like how dumb this is (just for 1 example) 😆

^ they're missing some paths, or the prerequisites are wrong 🤷

Medical mastery 2 is notoriously dumb layout 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Oh right. Skill book is terrible too. You're on the right side and suddenly you gotta upgrade a node on the left all the way. Its completely unrelated.

[digital glacier]

Some things 🫣

[stable anvil]

I always click the quick assign button, less hassle

[digital glacier]

3 troop builds
3 research builds
3 builds for things apply to marches
3 builds for heroes
🙈

[stable cosmos]

There are a few things i don't want upgraded. I'd like to keep my hospital cap where it is for eg

[forest nymph]

This pov makes me uncomfortable

[digital glacier]

No migo building
41% of our hq is buildings we can't hide 🤣

[digital glacier]

Don't like my drone pov 🫣

[stable anvil]

Sky view

[digital glacier]

Need a land tilt so it's true aerial overhead view 😆

[zealous dirge]

This pic stresses me

[forest nymph]

Uncanny valley vibes

[stable anvil]

I was gonna say that, i need to tilt my screen just to make it feel much better

[forest nymph]

Yes thank you

[digital glacier]

Hope you enjoy it.

[forest nymph]

My blood pressure is lowering as well speak

[digital glacier]

Bye bye 😆

Mod. Abyss of torment.
You should be Enjoying this 😆

[forest nymph]

There was a reason I said this was a god forsaken server

[zealous dirge]

a torment, for sure 🤣

[digital glacier]

God left this server long ago 🤣

Today was a good day in sos.

[zealous dirge]

Can I ask why?

[digital glacier]

That would been my main too, except. I log in and was last on my main 🤣

[zealous dirge]

Do you run your own alliance?

[digital glacier]

Pretty much 🤷

[zealous dirge]

No fights in the leadership

[digital glacier]

I screwed up 2 of those those 6 minions bad when I upgraded to hq 30.
So. To fix it. I jump them to p5 😆

I still can't fill my mains rally cap 🥹

[zealous dirge]

You need to put in more effort. Maybe a couple more accounts?

[digital glacier]

Only cause I got 100k rally cap migo, but soon I get research done that it's permanent so.
Na, need to do my t11 infantry and t12. And march cap bonuses will do it 🤪
Might get it with next fish event might be enough 🤷

[digital glacier]

I think we need more icons on the screen
Just saying, I don't think we have enough yet 🤭I can still see a few more spots where they can put some bundles 😂🤣

I'm missing the enlistment icon 😿

[dusty hull]

160/800 to level 140.
I assume the developers added the MIGO talents as a way to deter people from trying to go offline for 3 months in order to try to bring a bunch of big spenders all going to 1 state. I don't think they want to make it easy for anyone to spend their way up in the MIGO talents.

It is costly to take 3 months off now, and to try to spring back up, but I'm sure there are several who could make that attempt to spend a massive amount to bring power back up... but without the MIGO talents, they will still be lagging behind. So that is a big deterrent to try to stop people from jamming 10+ big spenders into one state

[digital glacier]

Yes, I can agree with you in the aspect it is something that is non recoverable.

And you have mentioned 3 months, a few times now, is this because of the announcement the made in dev chat / patch notes or whatever about the leading state factor now includes settlements up to 90 days offline? Because honestly, I'm not so sure the devs even truly know how it works.

Going offline 61 days and getting a free state transfer, lists you states using criteria that includes settlements that havent played in 5 years 🤣 so, there's that to consider. That they're using the same criteria for paying tickets and it does include more than 90 days offline. I mean, there's been many times they used the wrong symbol in their formulas, so yeah, there's that 🤣

Example.
Throwdown requires 15 active members to participate.
If the rank 1 alliance in the entire game puts 86 of their 100 players on gray zone minutes before throwdown starts.
And a 86 players go offline.
And the state uses wall destroyers on them.
Guess what...?

No throwdown for them 😆
But 86 players were online just minutes before throwdown started.

So, there's that to consider too if you're talking 3 months because of criteria devs mentioned 😆

And as for earlier.
Survival book doesn't effect player migration rating.
But, leading state status is based on bp.
And it's not much, but based on a f2p alt book.
For 200 players. It could essentially drop 4b bp off the state. That's not much, but for 1 state, it could make the difference on the weakest leading state being a leading state or not 🤷

Let alone. The entire state reset all heroes to 1 and remove TA cause they're being added in 2× for that aspect 😆

That can make a big effect way more than survival guide for what state to move to

And lastly. Are you talking essentially not logging in for 3 MO this because of dev 90 day mention? Or just to not increase power more? Because if it's about not wasting money to max a migo book by spending and gaining power. Just to trash a hunch of stuff to be back to square one.

Trap + daily fiends, and killing zombies during event day, practically kot doing anything really everyday, can get you 20% book completion, so that's only 30 talents less. And you could. Buy bundles to max the book. And gain 0bp 🤷 I mean, if you really wanna talk about deterring whales from stopping for 3 months, well, spend the money on migo research book item bundles
^ Thats an available option too. To not lose out on those migo talent points 🤷

[soft gulch]

Morning

Quick question: Selena space frags can be recycled to Specops? Like Angie's?

[strong grove]

Matchmaking 🥶

[crude stratus]

To universal special ops frags.
1 astronaut frag = 2 special ops frags

[calm meteor]

Thanks Paul

[calm meteor]

It looks like a young state?

[soft gulch]

Yeah I did. If they gonna keep giving the space frags I will get my ang reso 7

[soft gulch]

Your gen-bracket could be very small to have matchmaking within your hero gen.

Can't do anything.

You need to fill the deficit with tactics, use bombs.

[strong grove]

1362

[strong grove]

😬

[tame oxide]

Betting on finals by the end of the day but we get new attempts on 10th 😂

[soft gulch]

If the talent points gonna be reset every season, then you don't need 20 books bookshelf, just 1 book would suffice 🤣

I don't understand how this is going to help anyone.

The incentive and reward for doing exploration will be gone.

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Horde is most pointless event for old states.

But some people like it just for free rss and gear items which go direct to recycling.

I would like red light to be turned offable during it running. It makes game unplayable for 30 mins straight.

[raw light]

They raised morale cap limit for battle ?

Is look like no longer 1k

[tardy night]

What did you get at the top of the report?

[raw light]

More than 1k morale now

In immortal arena I figure it

time to quit

[tardy night]

1020ish? Or 2.7k

[raw light]

I let u guess

Time to quit

[tardy night]

Why?

The people you were losing those morale battles to, will still do the same fixed damage. Raising the limit just makes it worse for them

Morale cap being increased doesn't mean their damage dealt increases.

[raw light]

Morale cap raise screw player at 1k-1.4k was playing some tempest extra cap morale or dna with.

No they will no longer have bonus morale for most of them

[tardy night]

Most? It's gonna be the same as always for 99% of folks.

[raw light]

Na

[tardy night]

Lol. Sure

[raw light]

They don’t exist only whales in game u know ?

[tardy night]

🤣 exactly?

Wait. Your morale is at 1000. Right?

[raw light]

Some mid spender do leading or spender do spend 1-2k month are setters in some state raise cap moral limit screw them

[tardy night]

And how many of those people are there in the game compared to those who lose every morale battle 🤣🤣

It's gonna be the same as it always was for the vast majority

[raw light]

Was good to have 1010-1013 morale with extra cap morale to cancel the dmg morale of people stronger than you 🥹

[tardy night]

10% damage difference isn't doing anything. Meh.

[raw light]

We don’t talk of 10%

[tardy night]

It mattered when morale was brought in. Doesn't matter now

[coarse verge]

Check bonuses I guess it is 1300

[tardy night]

Morale cap?

[coarse verge]

Yeah , it was 1000 , right?

[raw light]

Is look like is 1300 now

Boring

[tardy night]

Morale is doing damage this way

Player A has X morale. Player B has Y morale

If X>Y deal 10% damage.
It stays constant.

Magnitude of X doesn't matter if it's greater even by 1 or 1000000

[raw light]

You know dmg morale boost that 10% or u idiot ?

That can be 10% or be like 30-40%

[tardy night]

I'm certainly an idiot. Teach me more

Where did you get the 30% figure from? Game files?

[tardy night]

🤣

[tardy night]

That change is what you should talk of then. Not morale cap

Yeh then this will impact more, that's the effective damage being changed. Not morale cap alone

[raw light]

They raise morale cap = player no longer over 1300 don’t are at max cap morale mean someone are over 1300 have always the buff now people was sitting at 1k-1,1k morale need to search the 1.3k morale is what I talking about …

[tardy night]

🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[tardy night]

See this equation.

It changed to, if X > Y deal 30% damage.

[raw light]

So I basically lose the all morale bonus to player i basically won on morale with extra cap morale

[tardy night]

Well they want folks to spend their hearts out on all the crap statues. Open the wallets moar

[raw light]

Do they even tell in announcement the raise of 1300 cap or gonna be surprise for some people in rr ?

[coarse verge]

Can you check the bonus cap maybe it is not changed

[strong grove]

Don't waste your money

[raw light]

Is 1300 cap max , then you can use some extra cap tempest or dna for be 1301-1320 etc

[coarse verge]

I don’t want to believe it. 🤣

[raw light]

But that screw player was just at 1-1.2k morale ..

[storm solstice]

Yeah, they changed it.

[raw light]

[strong grove]

Its trap

😅

[raw light]

Any whales around for send me 100k diamond for some morale ?

[coarse verge]

@soft gulch 🤣

[strong grove]

I said you

[raw light]

Welcome in club of under 1.3k

[tardy night]

More than the cap ceiling, they changed how much it will dish out in damage. 🤣

[coarse verge]

Congratulations @soft gulch you were correct

[raw light]

Now watching the extra cap tempest be useless

[storm solstice]

I'm used to it.
So nothing new to me.

[raw light]

[strong grove]

Enjoy your real life

[storm solstice]

Ah, well - the top 5% won't be effected by that change

[strong grove]

This shi%% game

[raw light]

True but what I say early little setters are screw

Basically the one was at 1-1.2 morale was playing full stats dmg morale on dna and had 10-15 extra cap morale for beat people was stronger than them

[storm solstice]

Don't think it'll change anything for me tbh.

[tardy night]

30% is raw damage changed here or just their usual math damage 🤣🤣

[strong grove]

😬

[tardy night]

Margin of loss changes significantly if it's raw damage change

[coarse verge]

I think this is all related to the new collections and statues

[raw light]

Look like need play the new skin event coming in 2 day

[raw light]

Yes

They want some money to many big guys leaving after dd

[strong grove]

You need more space

[raw light]

I guess they gonna need spam more new state also

[coarse verge]

I am very comfortable now with my blue bird Aeg , I just enjoy the company 💙

It was inevitable anyway

[coarse verge]

Thanks for noticing this one

[strong grove]

I mean settlement space

[coarse verge]

I know, I just let my blue eagle fly around and we decided that we are not adding any more statues, she needs a space

[raw light]

[strong grove]

Or island space

[raw light]

Well space don’t matter anymore since when you remove a statue you don’t lose stats or skill or splendor island

Just put you favorite statue in island for make it look good

[strong grove]

As far as I know, many people have quit the game

[raw light]

Many more will follow

Sos is just business game for funplus nothing more

Like all mobile game , the goal is make the most money

Well some company listen player sometime but most will no care and will always try to be the most greedy as they can

[strong grove]

Even if it is a business, if you go to get more profit, that business will fall quickly

[raw light]

We’ll look sos how was in 3-4 year before

50-60% less expensive than now for be competitive

[strong grove]

😪

[raw light]

And now is more expensive and you still have way more spender.

This game business are based on emotion of player : frustration, ego etc for push people to spend.

You want feel important for you alliance ? You spend
You want brag of how u strong , you spend
You have lose to someone and want win ? You spend

Etc etc

[soft gulch]

Let me show you

[raw light]

Leave it , I guess was a troll

[strong grove]

True

[tardy night]

Not in apex

Show on tent fights. Or trucks.

Find someone you were losing to in morale before. Hit them 5 times on truck. Compare average loss before and after update

[soft gulch]

I have Apex only

[tardy night]

Apex is dumb engine with changed weights which emphasize whatever they wanna sell. No reason to look at it

[strong grove]

The best thing we got out of this was meeting good friends/family we never met.

[soft gulch]

Before and after going up in morale

[raw light]

I agree with that , but you telling about the 10% dmg morale we ain’t in the carebear anymore most people have so many dmg morale now

They no longer 10% specially if u don’t have réduction dmg morale against someone do have big wallet

[tardy night]

So check on trucks 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[raw light]

A f2p can easily be hit by 40% dmg morale

[strong grove]

Omg

[raw light]

Yes morale dont are so much important when you don’t have stuff around up , but we’ll they are maxed i can assure you want be the one with the morale buff

And ofc u can still win people do have morale buff when you don’t

Other way we would have quit

[soft gulch]

Dm me if there's a video msg

[raw light]

Now I will be forced play counter color for beat red of opposant and if the opposant put me two rising valor gen 3 on his red I will be screw with blue

Wanna quit

[tardy night]

An effective 27% damage shift in your favor had you losing 20kish troops less

[raw light]

[soft gulch]

Correct

[tardy night]

Real map pvp already has 15-20% rng

In max/min

Do it on trucks to gauge actual effect.

It's made it worse yes, but it shouldn't be a do or die update

[soft gulch]

I will do tile with a guy from state whom I will cross in morale in sometime

[woven spire]

Dont understand

What changed?

[coarse verge]

1300 cap

[woven spire]

Yes

But what changed in those screens

[coarse verge]

The bonus level

[woven spire]

So nothing

[soft gulch]

I took over him morale so bonus came to me

[woven spire]

That was always like that

Formula is

10% for winner + moral damage stat minus moral damage reduction enemy

[woven spire]

But thats probally cause you got a skin?

Or whatever

Well if even in apex it only reduce 20k. When they lose their bonus and you gain it. You see how useless it is. In rallies the effect is even less overall

[soft gulch]

No, point was about dmg bonus difference

I have done another test with another guy

And it flipped with that dmg bonus completely

[coarse verge]

So it is still the same just more cap?

[woven spire]

I just explained why that is

[woven spire]

Yes

[soft gulch]

But I'm saying it's not useless.

[woven spire]

Sure its not

But its not as overpowered as people say

[soft gulch]

Alright, we have nothing to disagree then 🙂

[woven spire]

I mean some people have 20 cap bonuses extra

Which is not worth sacrficing so much stats for

When i can just get 1 gold dna moral reduction 5% and you only get 10

10% is equal to 1 set gen 3 or 2 tempest

[soft gulch]

So Salem Vs Widowmaker, I was there.
Salem didn't have morale cap + on his tempest and he lost. But that was one rare fight amongst equals.

Now you look at another whales in my bracket, they have 14-15 cap +, cuz they don't want to get go of that advantage

[woven spire]

+2 and +6 at best is ok

But like you say 14 15 etc to get the effect is to much

All could be stats

People have it on genes. Missing out on 7% hero damage on each hero. 100% health on each. 5.15% ampl on each

And that x5 times if you only get +3s

And well. Strenght difference might also have a play

[tardy night]

20k diff in apex from 27% damage shift, will be negligible diff in real pvp when you figure in rng. 10k min 35k max? That's not a lot of improvement considering how much you have to spend to keep up with morale.

[woven spire]

Atm at certain spending, people are not beatable

[woven spire]

I showed you mine? From moral buff to none

And without did much better

😂

[tardy night]

Ya

[woven spire]

Despite having marks of strenght on the moral buff

Well people can go to 1050 if they want. Those people are unbeatable anyway. They only will lose against their equal whos smarter

[soft gulch]

And they meet equals more often

[woven spire]

Ye. Top alliances

But the 1050 will lose against the 1000

[soft gulch]

If I am a whale SVIP5 I would rather have morale boost than 115 Troop attack on my tempest

[woven spire]

Ye dame

If i only need +3

Bit if i need + 20

[tardy night]

Svip5 is a different league. Talk of normal battles 🤣

[woven spire]

That would cost me for instance 700% attack on each troop

[tardy night]

99% of battles don't have svip5

[woven spire]

Say that to our doomsday route😂

Half of them still losing

[soft gulch]

I am talking about those people only

[woven spire]

🤣🤣

I got 1000 moral

Eop dude had what 1015?

He still lost😂

[tardy night]

Ye

[woven spire]

I wouldnt say moral is bad

But if you have to sacrfice alot

It is

[soft gulch]

It depends on who I am.

If I am me, with 591 morale it's useless for me. If I am a whale with SVIP3+ I will totally prefer that over troop stats.

[woven spire]

Again, depending on situation

Take qs or zaza

They got 1020+

You prefer getting 1030 instead all stats 1 gold reduction moral?

Assuming you a whale to. The max they would do is 15%. 5% more on red-damage is normal. Cause there is more damage then red. 1 gold dna brings it back to 10%

[thorn axle]

Whale

[soft gulch]

I guess you need to ask a whale.

Ask Hero1 or Baer in my bracket

[woven spire]

Asking you

Dont know what a whale possibility could know more

They not getting secrets or so and assuming you have a iq too

And this is not a skill based question

Someone will say its joiners so i am prepared

We missed 1 person in the rally

You see, how moral is just a whale insurance

Right is a svip 5

Left is svip3

[soft gulch]

I don't know either.

Everyone has a different analysis of why they lost basis their stats and basis their opponents'. When a whale I know lost, he ran to buy those towers with 0.4% hfd.

Even if it is whale insurance a lot of whales are getting it. So either they are stupid or they have bad reading of battles.

Now you tell me why did you win this.

[woven spire]

The issue is. The game has to big of a whale gap. That at certain point the smaller once have no chance. Despite being "smarter" and more "knowledgeable" at some point its just not doable and thats ok. They deserve it if they spend x10 your amount

Frustrating but ok. Devs are....

[slate fossil]

Please remember to follow Discord Guidlines & ToU when having these discussions

[woven spire]

What is the issue ?😂

[slate fossil]

I tried sending you a dm- Unfortunately, It failed.

[woven spire]

You can explain here. No worries

I might have missed something

[slate fossil]

mentioning of other non-FunPlus games

[woven spire]

Oh i see. Though examples are fine

To make a point

[strong grove]

They have nothing to do with Dev's mistakes

[slate fossil]

actually, it will more than likely be removed- editing will help to void this

I feel the discussion is valid, though-dgmw

My apologies! I hadn't intended on murdering the chat!!
I will go- you guys come back

[tardy night]

They don't wanna even hear that other fart+ games allow mentioning other fart+ games. 🤣🤣

[woven spire]

Games i named, dont even compete with fp. Most of sos are not here cause they love games and are good at it😂

[tardy night]

But having game name in profile pic or name is fine🤣

And their GMs inviting folks to try those games. That's not breaking any ToS

[visual frigate]

Is Path of Water gone today for everyone?

[lost jungle]

no , it's not gone but if your game isn't updated pow will disappear until you update the game

[teal delta]

Shouldn’t be gone. But in order to fix the previous broken skill, they added a even more broken skill so everyone would forget about the previous broken skill. SOS bug fixing 101

[thorny plume]

Its alot easier when we can see the skills i think

Now its just two empty logos

[sage girder]

Feels like a guessing game... Can you please make a bug report on the subject?

[thorny plume]

Nope

I hope someone else does

Ive never gotten anything reimbursed ever, lost out of a migo skin collection because of bug. Nothing. All you get is AI answers. If they want people to bug report they should start listening to players 🙂

[slender sierra]

Ok, that’s nice to give a Code that says Womenpower today, but do you know what are a girl’s best friends? Diamonds 💎 !

So ty devs to send me diamonds today ☺️

[visual frigate]

You mean the hammer skill?

[solemn kraken]

just, don't mention names of other games, ever, not even other F+ games

[visual frigate]

Yeah, I can see the problem, if you have one top player you can essentially block the other team using the demolition skill

[soft gulch]

they sent?

[slender sierra]

Not yet, but I have complete and utter confidence the devs will do the right thing 😌

[dusty hull]

It has been a thought, like for the bigs who stopped playing eg Lucif, to come back after being offline, to send big spenders into one state. It isn't anything that I have ever put much thought or care into, so I can't get into more details about the strategy.

[visual frigate]

Yeah, it should be like a divisional thing

Every MIGO, rank all players according to strength and put them in divisions

Each state becomes a division, and you compete with ppl of similar strenght

[dusty hull]

I think they do try to match similar strength states. Usually 2-3 alliances are good enough to compete against each other.

[desert hearth]

I think migo states is one of the small parts where matching is kinda ok, at least personally my state was facing kinda equal states

[tepid rivet]

What happens to the crystals in our backpacks when there will be no mines next MIGO season? Will FunMinus give us a bunch of tomatoes for them or what?

[desert hearth]

Sadly we don’t know what the devs plan with the crystals, but since they won’t remove the feature permanently they will probably stay like they did in the past already

[dusty hull]

I don’t know how I get this

Works well

[wide wraith]

good riddenance to the mines is all i can say with the 24 hour timer that ends in less than 12

[digital glacier]

#🐞︱bugs-discussion message

I don't know why everyone seems to never share the duty accumulated / max duty needed 😆 those 2 numbers influence that 72k big. 😆

Chances are, don't pull out troops. It'll hurt that 72k

[dusty hull]

I'm afraid to look more into it 😁 I don't want to mess with a good thing

[digital glacier]

Chances are very high, you could be 360k. How's your medical mastery portion setup?

Add duty recover
0 enlistment size bonus?
I may be wrong but, it looks like you might have add some points for hospital capacity? Which is bad.

[dusty hull]

My MIGO talents are all maxed

[digital glacier]

That's bad.

[dusty hull]

I have those statues that increase duty rate

My hospital is 750K / 1.9M

[digital glacier]

MKR made video about enlistment that most would find helpful, that is most of everything of what I've ever said on the topic.

[dusty hull]

I usually have no real problems with enlistment and recovery, can clear it out within a few weeks

[digital glacier]

Medical mastery
0 hospital capacity
0 duty enlistment size increase
100% duty recovery rate
Optional
Healing speed
Rss heal reduce

Chief talents
0 hospital capacity

If you empty your hospital, and did that with your book, you'd probably hit 360,000.
Btw. Don't know if you know but
72k duty rate is 72k duty added per hr for what you can use to pull troops out
So, that's a huge increase if you get 360k 😅

360k is highest I've ever had or seen. It might go higher 🤷

My enlistment usually has about 5m in it after svs.
And 99% of the time, it's empty in 2-3 days

[near rose]

How do you do this? I always end up having very bad enlistment rate when down to 1M troops (max capacity about 6M). Do you e.g. stop playing "normally" to avoid rate being updated, when you're running at high rate?

[digital glacier]

The rate calculates every sunrise sunset. So not playing won't change anything

Healing 1 troop, pulling out 1 troop from enlist, gathering rss from inside settlement, claiming daily tasks, all forces enlistment calculation too

[near rose]

Yes. So how can you keep the very high rate for 2-3 days?

[digital glacier]

I use the game to my advantage

[near rose]

You like your secrets 😂

[digital glacier]

A few of the secrets I know, if devs found out, would change several aspects of the game as we know it.

[woven spire]

Lol, you even have maxed duty capacity, which should be bad. I removed the books on capacity

[dusk orbit]

Any complaints yet about the morale cap being increased right before the end of DD? 😂

[woven spire]

but today got 45000

[woven spire]

dont think it matters to much

I was suprised not seeing the spec ops rider...

[dusk orbit]

Players were able to beat others marches having 1000 + 'x' amount of morale cap to overcome some of the bigger whales. Now those players are sitting at ~1200 morale while those whales are at 1300.

Just let the biggest event in SoS end before doing something that completely alters fights. 😂 (P.s. This does not effect me)

[cloud ridge]

Them changing cap level on moral for DD is probably the nicest thing they could have done in my view, but there's still time for them to drop something stupid.

[woven spire]

oh got it

well for rally leads no difference

all have 2.5k for those left

😂

[dusk orbit]

Yep, I agree with you there. and this did not effect me. I am just expressing the thoughts of those caught between the 1000 - 1300 mark.

[dusty hull]

It will impact water tank battles more than rallies.

[dusk orbit]

Yes, i said this same thing in another server where players were saying this wouldn't impact the fights that much. 😭

[desert hearth]

For leads it won’t change much that’s for sure

But yes tanks can struggle

[digital glacier]

Honestly if I put more effort into it, I could 100% guaranteed my troops will be out of enlistment in 2 days.
And that's even including up to 100% of my troops (about 18m) could be in enlistment. 😆

I honestly could do it on 100% of accounts in sos, providing you have a thing or 2 saved up, which nearly everyone does 🤣.
It doesn't matter your hq, hospital size, enlistment cap, statue completions, morale, anything.
^ None of that matters. Absolutely 0. Zilch. Nada, nothing.
in the grand scheme of enlistment 😆... That is, of course... If you know what I know 🤣
So, Yeah, as it stands right now. The only use for me to aquire those decorations for "duty recovery rate" is for the set bonus skill which doesn't do me much good. a little extra damage on Dino rally but that's it. 🤣
^ let alone anyone tbh. The skill is the only thing that's truly useful. The other stuff is useless 🤣

A few things saved up.
Or time... Time and dedication for it. It's is all you need

Well, in a manner of speaking, hospital cap + enlistment size determines the amount of time you need to do some things to guarantee troops are out of enlistment in 2 days. But it's a very very small difference in time and dedication needed 😆

[woven spire]

For me bringing the moral cap up is dumb either way. There is enough stuff to do

For leads. They dont need do anything more

Rest need to start spending more. Quite dumb

Pushing those that are on a budget to spend more, is probally the dumbest thing you can do

[dusk orbit]

Yes but the way they see it.. the whales will spend no matter what, now how can we get that middle of the pack group to panic and donate.

[digital glacier]

Imagine how different some fights could have gone if they did this change earlier in the tournament.

Changes like the morale thing shouldn't be changed during a tournament.
That's like saying.
Oh, you're not allowed to use S1 tempests today 🤣 there's no way for you to aquire old ascension pieces. So, good luck. Hope you got what you need for battle. 🤷

Or saying. Oh, we're not gonna allow you to play with t12 troops 🤣🤣🤣

It's not that drastic, but nonetheless, same concept 😆

[tardy night]

Ollie, new gen heroes allowed in wall defence despite bracket bans. They don't want a fair battle. They want to present the win to whoever spends more money.

Their matchmaking philosophy reflects that as well

Long as you will spend enough, and show up, the farts will determine how far you can go.

[wintry pagoda]

Where is this announcement?

[dusk orbit]

Just go look at your battle reports.

[jolly harness]

Because it says .0 now ?

[solid hamlet]

There are some tempest arms that add a .2 to the total.

[visual frigate]

yeah, or .3

the weird ones with fractional morale

[sage girder]

I am assuming that's POW? Because that's where is there is no limit for morale

[digital glacier]

So. After years of, off again on again, work trying to reverse engineer the enlistment formula.

I've finally come to a conclusion.
I still have more work to do 🤣
But no,
seriously. I figured it out.
I just need a little more here and there to hone in on the bracket system they use 🤪
but I'm not too concerned about that. I have very good info's already for it.
Devs are really shooting themselves in the foot on this one to make extra money 🤭

[digital glacier]

I think I wrote that wrong 🤣
To clarify. Devs aren't making as much as they could because of how their formula is setup 🤣

[visual frigate]

The miser pays twice

[stable anvil]

Wow

Recycle lucky dices for super dices

Now can devs do the same with the slot coins/tokens for slot event

[digital glacier]

You mean the currency that was replaced with the identical image for slot machine 🙄

🙄 @ devs. Not you.

Did you see gen 14 capsules could recycle for rss yesterday 😂🤣

Maybe still today too. Idk. That's funny tho. I'd rather them collect dust in my backpack (mind you, non have 999 skills either, but if they did)

[stable anvil]

Yes

I swear devs are dumb

Same image but different name

[digital glacier]

I look. But I'm on alt. Maybe I don't have the frags on it🤷

[stable anvil]

They always recycle to rss crates

[digital glacier]

Yeah, beautiful ain't it.
Where be the rest of the heroes and why rss 🤣

Fk, give me gold frags at least 🤣🤣🤣

Maybe I can build a bridge to China with all the gold frag puzzle pieces I have 🤣

[fallow flower]

The dice event tomorrow is different from the rest of the things that have been.. It is only based on the number of dice you get rewards if you do 10 you get rewards and so on. Not a full cycle. 😑

Why do I spend 2400 on each round and it increases with the days... This is very expensive.. Last day to spend 16k dice 🤷

[wide wraith]

its the original dice event where you hit other people on tiles and destroy little houses

[fallow flower]

Unfortunately it's different too.. you'll see tomorrow

[wide wraith]

it will be junk anyway just another money grab,

[fallow flower]

As usual 😑

[wide wraith]

dont know why they bother most of the time

[fallow flower]

It's SOS haha

[strong grove]

👀

[strong grove]

Anyone here

[fickle aurora]

Hey aeg, how can I help you?

[wide wraith]

that was strange for a moment the channel wanted to give me mod powers lol and its not like i would ever apply lol or be accepted

[silver swan]

I have a question regarding Governor.
If a person has been appointed Governor & then he resigned from being a Governor after few days. Now, our state has no Governor. How can we appoint another person as new Governor?

[wide wraith]

only at CC if they resigned

or of course SvS

[silver swan]

Omg, in that case we need to wait until next Sat to appoint a new Gov.
Anyway, thanks for the info.

[wide wraith]

work together as a state to appoint someone who wants the role

but yeah its like you lost svs , no gov until next sat

[silver swan]

Yep, we always work together as a state.
Not really sure what happened to that Governor. He suddenly left his alliance & resigned as Governor.
Thanks again.

[wide wraith]

yw

[stable anvil]

Burn that person

[tardy night]

Might be someone looking to transfer out and was misinformed regarding the move. Ask why they resigned lol

Might also be someone automatically given the role who didn't want it 🤣

[soft gulch]

😂

you can only have a new gov after next cc

[spark kindle]

Our state once had a gov who thought she could transfer gov to someone else. Result: a resigned gov, govless state, unfathomable noobery...

[soft gulch]

Except Patriot buff and Troop training buff they have no use for me. 😄
Most pointless job

[tardy night]

it was once the most important job in the fart+ games, plasma was only available through packs given by governor after conquering another state. No prep to keep gov and there were only 21 packs to give out for participation.

now its...heh

[soft gulch]

wtf? really?

[tardy night]

Fun times when gov had to decide which 21 died enough to warrant a pack to upgrade their hq, who would keep showing up after they upgraded completely

Ye, first 2 games from the farts had that role for the gov

None of this 10% loss crap either. 70% losses per rally. Real risk of going home with no troops lel

Now wallet warriors spam rallies and go home to bask in wins with bandwagons with their 6-2-2 formations with brute force rally spams. Back then none could afford making a single mistake. Joiner or lead. Cuz rally had 4 troop types, 12 tiers of troops. And mixed march mattered.

Too much skill for some. Lol.

[soft gulch]

I dont know if that was better or this

But that was contrained experience for sure

[tardy night]

That carried risk. This game removes all risk the more you throw at it in money.

Idiot proof game.

[digital glacier]

Idiot proof game.
No. No it's not.

[tardy night]

Lol, relatively.

Folks will find a way

Back then you couldn't afford to send 1 wrong troop. A single one. Whole rally died from it. Different stakes. Approx 300$ per lost rally distributed between the ones losing.

This game allows more inclusive participation, but lowers the threshold of risk to keep folks in it.

[bright pine]

I am looking to see what state 270 merged into.

[digital glacier]

268 = 268, 270, 300
#⭐︱game_information message

[bright pine]

Thx

[vagrant crag]

Why do we match bots to proper players in pow. So frustrating playing with these bots.

[stable anvil]

Always burn them

Noobs will learn

[stable anvil]

That was back then when people would be fighting for buffs because they were that important and the rewards were worth the push, back when things were limited

Now aday buffs are meh, unless you are a mega spender who will go all out of training day because that now makes up for the majority of points in prep. Before i remember chief gear upgrades were very popular to see in chat, now that was a good double dip day for 5th day of prep

[soft gulch]

I had excel sheet for chief gear stuff

[stable anvil]

Back before effortless came out and you need to go hard on horde and underground for the items

[soft gulch]

I know I did crazy stuff to get that monkey off my back. The alloy used to be sold for bios and you always needed a fkton of it.

Best (or worst) part is that sources to get that stuff were so limited. Spenders or F2P had similar grind...

Showing them off on profile was a thing. Yeah.

[coarse verge]

The amount of bundles I bought

[digital glacier]

It still is 🤣

[dusty hull]

People made small alliances for horde, to get the top rank by reinforcing smaller hqs. Early years were completely different mentality

[digital glacier]

Yeah, hq one side of map with 6 small hqs.
And other side of map with 6 small hqs.
Horde was slower back then so you could easily jump and rein and get tons of score. 😂
A few big guys didn't like me doing that in my small alliance, they couldn't burn me so they burned someone else who did it the first horde.
The 2nd horde, they still ranked #1 after being burned 🤣
That was a process moment in history.

[warped token]

The RNG rewards for the reward crate in Tidal Treasures event. I am thinking most of us will be getting just the 1 clover leaf. I hate that everything about this game is RNG.

[worldly stone]

Hello Maybe you have some suggestions for changes to the awards?

They can be written here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606

[ornate estuary]

Hello. Could someone say how is RR marching made? I mean, raid score?

We faced an impossible opponent today, even if we split our alliance into L1 and L2.

How is raid score calculated now for matchmaking???
Cause at the beggining it looks like it's based on fights success but then it changed

How they calculate the score????

[warped token]

what's there to say? just remove the RNG aspect for all our rewards. we pay for something and then we get crappy ODDS for rewards

[worldly stone]

Hello Pam! I think the strength of each player plays a big role here. Heroes, pets, and more

[worldly stone]

I understand your frustration and the awards really cause little joy😓

[ornate estuary]

Thanks

Thing is it's 2 raid scores

First one is based on succeed I think. And then they change it????

Which one is the main??? The one they use for match making? We really had no chance with our last opponent

[worldly stone]

My alliance has the exact same problem 😦 I think the strength of the player himself makes a big difference

[worldly stone]

I'll try to find out more and as soon as I get an answer, I'll reply to you in DM❤️

[warped token]

pls reply here. it's not an issue just for PAM. we all suffer it most of the time

[ornate estuary]

Thanksss

[worldly stone]

Okay, I'm gonna ask my co-mods a question right now🤗

As soon as there's an answer, I'll tag you and Pam

[ornate estuary]

Thanks!!! Please
Pur alliance likes this event so much but matchmaking today was very weird and frustrating

We couldn't do too much

[stable cosmos]

Matchmaking works as follows when above 6 players

Sometimes you are the carrot. A big alliance will walk over you

Sometimes you are the stick, you get to walk over someone else.

If you are the carrot, the dev message is ti spend more. If you're the stick the devs message is good job on spending, heres your reward keep it up.

[ornate estuary]

We had similar raid score but opponent was ways stronger than us. They had many players with more than 1300 morale and one with 2.500

It was very wrong under our perspective. And I humble would say it's wrong.

I am a good joiner but not main rally leader. And my raid score is almost the same as our 2nd rally leader. I can't beat him in arena, 3 marches dead against him even with counter heroes.

So how my raid score is similar to him?

[coarse verge]

Raid score has a maximum limit

It doesn’t increase after that limit no matter how much you upgraded or increased in stats or power

[ornate estuary]

Thing is that its weird.

I have lower score in migration than our 2nd RL. Yet my raid score is pretty similar to him

So it could be good to know how its this calculated. We have 2 Legions so we are trying each time to lower our score. We had 19M today splitting into both legions but idk how final score was 30m? And we ended fighting an alliance in top 8 in raid score in whole game.

Im sorry to be so insistent but this is an important event in game.

Old but the best event so far. We need to have a better matchmaking cause otherwise our alliances would just feel frustrated and you know what happens after

[tardy night]

Gotta understand how their pyramid form of ladder tournaments works for matchmaking. See koth brackets. It's seeded there as well.

You can manipulate it to an extent but it still will require being okay with losing some matches unless you got quite a few uber megalodons instead of normal whales.

[vale yoke]

Did Raid scores get reset from transfer/migration again? Also, there's matchmaking?

When did that happen? I haven't seen that in ... Oof. A long time.

[tepid rivet]

What does the goat say?

[vale yoke]

It says we should eat the rich, but also that there is no matchmaking; there is only those who spend enough to win, and everyone else.

It's a weird goat

[tepid rivet]

What if we got a goat that makes a magical aura in raid so we can walk on water like the one and only and never get burned?

[vale yoke]

It would need to look exactly like that goat right there

Please for let us have goats. Goat for Raid, KotH goats, Apex goats, CC goats. MIGO goats. SPACE GOATS

rocks back and forth foaming at the mouth repeating "the goats..."

Oh and a dev chat

[stable cosmos]

Space goats, coats to coats

[ornate estuary]

👀

[somber pollen]

We were matched 14 vs 30 , the raid score was similar, I thought we are good, because probably not so strong players, so our surprised was we couldn't kick a guy collection 85 and they had more multiple collectors 60+, we are a small alliance with the stronger player with collection 67, in the end the participation was 11 vs 23 and we still won, either way I don't think these matchmaking is making sense.

[digital glacier]

Woohoo. Multiple sign in spots again.
VIP sign in
Doomsday event sign in
Earth day sign in
Claim daily free ticket
Where else we gotta sign in 🤷

[digital glacier]

You dont truly see your actual score anymore. The numbers you do see, aren't what's getting used

[tame jackal]

😒

[digital glacier]

🤷

[stable cosmos]

As you can buy 10k of the 2 coin option rather than 1k, they've made it cost more. That does make sense, it just looks horrible.

[vale yoke]

I'm thinking the Ward because we still play this? I've already got my grippy socks packed.

[digital glacier]

I asked for extra padded straight jacket to keep me cozy warm 🥰

Was graphics redesign on festival bazaar necessary?

[stable cosmos]

Graphics redesigns are always necessary. Every time. Never question the sos gfx team. Totally competent group who aren't busily justifying their paycheck by faffing with the buttons every couple of weeks

[digital glacier]

New change looks like we time traveled 20 years back in time 🤣

Maybe mood like 50 🤷

[fallow flower]

After completing 7 stages there will be no gems.

🙂Enjoy it

[stable anvil]

Did anyone check if they got more rewards from jungle gem as the daylight savings pushed an hour ahead?

Just wondering

[stable cosmos]

Doubtful. Dst is a local thing. Utc continues as if nothing changed and your prizes will be based on the utc clock ticking over, not your personal time zone

[unreal lichen]

I don't think so. The game is following the UTC timeframe, so should not affect by the daylight savings.

[stable anvil]

Ok thanks for the info

[digital glacier]

Alliance = team
Teams for POW
Teams for KOH
Teams for RR
Teams for SR Duo
Teams for tycoon
What's next?
Teams for intel 🤷🤣
Ffs.

[unreal lichen]

Maybe teams for jungle gem? or teams for fishing?

[warped token]

after few attempts, as we progress through this event, the shuffling speed of this becomes ridiculous. It's not at all designed for human eye to follow the speed of this movement. What's even the point of this? If there are no associated rewards, remove this ridiculous pause in the middle of dice movement. if there is some reason, then make it reasonable for players. We are humans, not androids watching the movement.

[ornate estuary]

That's not good
I would insist in to have some answer about this pls

[soft gulch]

😂

Wait till you have played 30 coins shuffle.

If you are having trouble with 3 coins then suggest you to have screen recorder handy.

[warped token]

lol no no. 3 coins are super slow. when it has anything more than 20 or so, it's just a blur. no freaking way for a human eye to follow that

overall, in general, they made it ridiculous with all these interruptions for mini guessing game and drawing game within dice event. getting to the point of really annoying

[unreal lichen]

Thanks for your information. I guess I will need to get an old phone or pad to run this. 😅

[stable cosmos]

Doubt you could get it right even if you could follow. The speed up is to obscure that they're simply randomising the result. A human being able to get the top prize on purpose? Preposterous

[warped token]

Yeah. They are probably switching the cards even if you guessed correct. just the same old greedy devs. They'd never change their greedy ways even if 1000 vega's quit the game. They just dont have the brains to think these things through

[digital glacier]

...

[tardy night]

Why do we keep thinking they don't know what they are doing. A player costs them 20$ ish to acquire. The game at large would be a few hundred million. They made bank 3 years ago. This is a cash cow now. 🤣

[digital glacier]

#🆘︱sos_discussion message

[tardy night]

A few hundred vegas don't mean anything to them. They spend 100k on marketing and wait for new vegas in new games.

[soft gulch]

I got 30 coins one right, its super fast but doable.

[unreal lichen]

So another game of luck without skill? That makes sense.

[warped token]

not even luck. Even if you follow the cards and select the right one, they decide to flip the right card or not. They can just switch it to a dummy card and you won't have anything to show for it

[digital glacier]

Bit much, don't you think?
1 location too difficult 🤷

[soft gulch]

That's a wrong notion, mate

If you have that doubt screenrecord

[unreal lichen]

So don't even try to follow. Just pick cards randomly. that's waht I always do in SOS events now.

[digital glacier]

Anyone feel like these events are just becoming more complicated than fun 🤷

instead of having a 💩 shop and a premium shop.
Can shops please be separated by currency being used 🙄
Can we please stop adding more types of currency with more conversions with more, and more and more and 🙄 you guess it. MORE!
where is Dr suess to make one of his kids books about all the currencies and events and crap we have for this month long event 🤦

[digital glacier]

Pearls are pretty but crown are king.
There's bombs and rockets, firecrackers too.
magnifiers galore just for you
Bills or tokens are very few.
Here's some resources, we thank you.
Spend all you can and don't be sad when you miss those wings you wish you had.
Your points are low and the stakes are high
You're not good enough, so buy buy buy

😆

[unreal lichen]

Good Poem 😆

[dusk orbit]

I hate to be that person but, all of the speeds are very easy to complete. I have not missed one yet. Don't follow the card. Look at the center and watch the card move. It's only going to move 3 or 4 times.

[forest kiln]

As far as I see all this except daily log is P2P

OMG, just return old Tycoon

[wide wraith]

When are the Devs going to actually going to watch any programme/film about Zombies, if they did 99% of the junk events would disappear or be attacked by every zombie for miles around

[solemn kraken]

see? that's the problem, players thinking this is a Zombie game

[wide wraith]

that the problem with noobs they think it isnt

so if its not a zombie game why is there still hoard?

[solemn kraken]

use that n-word and you get ignored

[stable cosmos]

Its not a zombie game. Its a game with zombies in. Quite different.

That said, more world consistency would be nice. My hq nearly has a higher population than my country. Yet we can't have more HQ space

[wide wraith]

they have another one of those Dumb fairs coming up, i want to see the fair attacked by Zombies

[soft gulch]

its a 4-Ex strat gme builds around a post-apocalypitic zombie theme.
If you want a Zombie game, then there are many other games to play.

[tardy night]

Strat....🤣🤣

4x pseudo gambling den

Where you win a dopamine drip from crushing people you know you will win against by point and click.

Such strategy. Lel

Good thing server rules forbid discussions on what actual strategy games look like.

[soft gulch]

You have to live with what things evolve into

If you feel nostalgic about the class strat games, there are plenty of options

[mortal barn]

I mean I have followed the card and got it every time so idk what’s going on if it’s switching on them. Normally only half rate guys would do shuffle swap but it is a good party trick

[soft gulch]

They are not swapping cards . They are being honest about the gameplay.
They do a lot behind 0.003% chance, things, but this is player skill totally

[tardy night]

Being an apologist is also a choice. Can do it elsewhere.

[soft gulch]

You short stopped of calling me a shill 😄

[tardy night]

Someone who complains as much as you do should not be telling anyone to live with the game.

They have steadily decreased all stategic or tactical choices in their game content. Complaining about it is fair enough.

[soft gulch]

So this guy fired thousands of bullets at Pluton. It was during first ever run of the event a year ago I guess. And asked me how many more its going to take.

And I told him it is not skill-kill, it is gacha-kill.
And he was like "whattttt?"

Now this is something I call deception, given to simpletons. They also popup that meaningless message like "x3 critical" its all BS.

Thats my answer Chek.

[tardy night]

Lucky cards. Pharaoh. Balloon ascension event.

Leaving aside the fact that none of this crap is core strat game mechanics, what they are describing occurs in some events.

Game pre-determines drops after certain instances and specifically rigs chances based on certain thresholds that none are informed of. As well as displaying wrong odds.

they said it was 0.2% chance to get the big prize in the previous collab event when actually it was about 1:127000

[stable cosmos]

Or the chance for bios from an enigma crate.

[tardy night]

Them reducing the number of crates that could be opened at one instance was hilarious. They realized people could open up enough crates at an instance to prove their odds wrong and dropped it to 1k max. Lol.

Else we had folks opening 15k crates and getting 0 bio.

10 potions 🤣

[soft gulch]

The product philosophy behind keeping it in Gacha is that Player should blame their own luck and not the game.
So some day they feel "lucky" and on some day "its not my day".

But this is failing because you are opening so many crates everyday. Or build events like Bounty around them. Where each bullet fired means a crate being opened.
Then players start questioning the rig-ness.

[stable cosmos]

Gotta win more often even if its tiny. Constantly getting what amounts to the worst prize doesn't build any confidence on winning the big stuff. They need way more in the midrange thats useful but not enough to tip the balance

[woeful hemlock]

Guess I ain't playing the real zombie game...

[soft gulch]

Now show your Wings collection. 😂

[woeful hemlock]

F2P collection?

[soft gulch]

😂

[woeful hemlock]

Will this crate be recycled? from Pharaoh's event

[woven spire]

Free to pay you mean?🤣

And answer is no

[soft gulch]

Open it and take 500 pearls 😄

[woeful hemlock]

No

F2p + Hoarder As a hoarder, not allowed to open crates🤣

[soft gulch]

💀

dont show your backpack to anyone
i saw it that day and couldn't sleep properly

[stable cosmos]

What like this? I need to rationalise but the whole system is so clunky they just sit there

If any box gave anything it'd be fine. But they all give slightly different stuff and trying to maximise any one thing is annoyingly hard when all the stupid boxes look the same as well

[soft gulch]

yeah its like this with + more precious stuff

[marble grove]

Is anyone else's game lagging/keep getting disconnected?

[woeful hemlock]

No

[marble grove]

The skin boxes are decent now, they show how many you need per level etc, cleared out mine and maxed a few things 🤣🤣

[tardy night]

Gacha philosophy is about running an unregulated gambling den where you can get away with more scams because it's a service not a product and there's no fungible value within the service once exchanged from fiat. So they can leech away unhindered.

The day their assets get a monetary worth, their schemes fall flat. Will be some years in the making. They can have their fun till then.

The boomer gen of lawmakers aren't gonna know better. Millenials will.

[vale yoke]

What's Gen X doing at this time?

I'm a millennial; of COURSE I'm angry at the system but this avocado toast has me in a chokehold.

Legend has it, if you make your coffee at home, you can buy bundles (this is satire, if that's not clear)

[tardy night]

Watching people too old to understand how emails work making laws about tech

[soft gulch]

Avacado toasts are nice. I like Avacados in general. The only fruit with hell lot more fat than carbs.
Stay in chokehold but swap that white bread with one made of quinoa.

[coarse verge]

Mixed grains not just quinoa

This is way better than feedback discussion @vale yoke thanks

[soft gulch]

Mixed is nice too, but with 100% Quinoa, you can say bye-bye to Gluten and go yeast-freee.....
Try it, its superb

[vale yoke]

We are discussing feedback, which is how a Gen x lawmaker might view the regulations which allow games and development methods to negatively impact consumers of wide demographic swaths as it relates to content within SoS.
Also, I actually don't like avocado. Or white toast.
I'm a big multi grain person. And I don't have Celiacs or any sugar conversion issues, so I don't need to be GF.

I have a corn and soy intolerance, which is really hard when you're American.

But yeah, Chek isn't wrong to mention the gacha being a front for unregulated gambling. Its actually funny to me because where I live, we had a lot of people running parlors with this fish game thing, and they got in trouble for it, but one of my friends who used to play it started SoS and was like "I have a better chance of winning at fish"

[solemn kraken]

oh, that is sooo adorable, and tiny!

don't worry, if you play with it long enough it will grow

😛

[crimson pumice]

[digital glacier]

Cool feature.
I can see my rss production
And a lab and pet building

[spark kindle]

They're offering you a multipurpose event screen and you're still complaining 😌

[scenic snow]

[visual frigate]

Man, I hoped to save up 100k crates and open them up in one go, and now I can't

[visual frigate]

So... if someone were to, say, fire 50k worth of bullets (so just over 5k shots at 9 per bullet), what would happen?

Would the rewards start 'defaulting' to the minimum after a time?

Or is it that there are a certain 'list' of good rewards and when it's exhausted that's it for that time period?

No matter how many shots ppl fire?

[soft gulch]

"Assuming" that there are no overrides or rigging.
Bounty is like a Chest opening event played at community level.

Top prize of this chest is that Pluton gets killed and subsequent reward is given.
Now there are second and third prizes, so I believe within a short timeframe, all those who successfully open the chest are rewarded. So Guy who opens it first gets top prize, guy who is next second and so on.

I got a second prize once. That dropped shortly after Pluton was killed by someone.

Again assuming that there is no rigging or overrides, player has chance to kill the pluton with just 1 bullet. So numbers of bullet fired should be immaterial.

[woeful hemlock]

What's the second prize?

[soft gulch]

There were bunch of 2nd and 3rd prizes.

HQ crate, march skins...

[forest kiln]

OMG, why does it look like some cheap softcover from beginning of 2000th😒

[soft gulch]

"If you want 4 collection sets in one month. This is the best we can do"

"Take it and...go"
"Seriously...TAKE IT and GO!"

[candid raptor]

😂

[forest kiln]

That HQ skin which looks like cover from +18 movie with elfs and orks I wouldn't take even if they pay me🤣

[soft gulch]

The most basic one is literally made with notebook stickers of animals.
In fact the second one two.

The Valentine is over, they peaked with the blood moon. Now get El Cheapos.

[strong robin]

This hq skin is called the kardashians

[soft gulch]

I thought it was called Biancas, in honor of Ye's ex.

[woeful hemlock]

Many thanks to the creator and designer of this event, I can save and wait for the next.

[cosmic tulip]

Is there a ticket to thumbs up about the spawn rate for lvl 6 infected fiends and lvl7/8 dead beasts ?

It’s become increasingly frustrating to log on sporadically throughout the day to still unable to do the basic things in the game.

[pallid willow]

No cuz trash devs don't play the game so they got no idea

[cosmic tulip]

that’s no surprise they are just money focused.

If they don’t fix at least make lvl 5’s and lvl 6’s rewards the same as the others -.-

[tepid rivet]

Soon there will be no fiends anymore, instead you need to take your pet tiger for a round of play and catch for 10 min daily

[forest kiln]

OMG 🤣 we are gonna walk with pets, pets will do their usual pet's business on nearest hq ... dev definitely will do event from this and sell that packs for pet's 💩 for $$$ 🤣

[scenic snow]

Hello, there's this that I found #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[tepid rivet]

Then we can be glad that there are no pet monkeys, they would throw their 💩 at people 🤣

After 10 rounds, releases 💩 fire that disarms enemy front row for 3 turns

[cosmic tulip]

Thank you. That’s partly it. Even normal fiends are hard to locate also…

[scenic snow]

You can create new feedback in #📋︱feedback-reporting or I could help you if you'd like

[tepid rivet]

I think devs are always hungry, why else we should see reoccurring toast messages

Also I think we're in 2025 already

[soft gulch]

Jungle has been brutal this time, couldnt get past 39. I need to sleep.

[scenic snow]

cries at 35

[coarse verge]

Cries at 38

[forest kiln]

Cries at 35 and 29

[wide wraith]

at 38 for the first time dont know whether to cry or cheer

[forest kiln]

f2p?

[wide wraith]

yeah

[tame jackal]

crying at 33

[forest kiln]

Same... I'm gonna cry if I wouldnt be able to get 2nd crate🤣

And no eggs in state apperantly

[normal peak]

It’s trash

[stable cosmos]

So, this isn't working, or does daily mean something else now

[stable anvil]

Every other day

I think devs did this last time too and its ridiculous

[stable cosmos]

Just spotted the date. Then its not bloody daily is it. Words have a meaning devs. Go read a dictionary

[vale yoke]

Didn't they also do this with the wind drake?

[stable cosmos]

Didn't read the text on that one

[unreal lichen]

Yes, seems like that. The description does not match the facts.

[vale yoke]

I get that Chinese to English translations arent the easiest, but Daily tends to mean Daily in every language. Not "every other day". The text should read "attack the monster every other day" or "attack the monster on the 1st, 3rd, and 5th days"

Not daily.

[solid hamlet]

Boss event seems broken

[stable cosmos]

They must suck at paying bills

[vale yoke]

And then they say stuff like "this was unclear to the players." Like no. It's unclear from the devs. It originates from the devs. The devs should be checking these things for clarity especially when we had this issue the last time they did this event.

Every. Other. Day.

It isn't hard. See? Look. Every other day. Boom.

Amazing

And this is what they don't pay me for.

Reading that back it's very clear my accent comes out a lot in a rant. Even in writing.

[stable cosmos]

Wheres that medicine bottle meme. Please take 2 pills daily once a day 3 times daily with meals

[solid hamlet]

I would make sure your game is updated. And if it is still not working create an in game ticket for this error.

[digital glacier]

Why is "monster boss" open for only 21 hours and not 24 hours when the rewards could be issued at 0 utc considering the fact

• 1. We attack it every other day and not every day.
• 2. Rewards and RECYCLING our items, are no problem at 0 utc for tons of events.

does it really take 3 hours to "settle rank" for this event when that's done immediately for all events?

Why is this open 21 hours straight but annihilation awaits has the same solo hitting mechanic, but is time restricted to less than half that?

Devs say they care about their players.
BUT!
When you compare these 2 event dynamics, It most certainty does not appear to be the case.

Devs wonder why players quit spending, quit the game entirely, give this game a bad reputation.
^ gee, I wonder devs, do you think it's your fault on all of that?

[dusk orbit]

“12%” chance for the emblem prowler in blue category. I wish they’d just admit they have programmed the game to hold out on giving certain things until all other items in the category have been achieved. It’s not “chance” it is programming. Blatant cash grab 😂

[steel cedar]

Hello, I see, you already got more things, those have 8% chance. Less than that emblem you mentioned. This would mean, that it has to do with luck, chance... otherwise you would get first the stuff with higher %, not the lower ones. ☺️ But I understand your frustration, you already got a lot stuff but not that what you would like.

[digital glacier]

Won't be too oolong before my alt becomes stronger than my former spending main account 🤣

[spark kindle]

my nano sized farm has some better stuff than my main does

[lavish heron]

Can dice be accumulated?? I really don’t want to spend on this event

[tardy night]

They accumulate between stages. Whether they keep after the event idk.

[surreal osprey]

Hi. As Spam da planescape said they can be accumulated between stages. From target achieved and from future tycoon.

[surreal osprey]

The items will be recycled at the end of the event

Here is the chart

[tardy night]

What's the first milestone for dice usage in stage 7?

[wide wraith]

why do they always recycle for rss/skin tickets, i have enough rss to start my own market store, the Devs and management need to actually play SOS, they might change things then

[surreal osprey]

To see each milestone go to the event and click this:

[tardy night]

Ye I can't rn, that's why am asking 🫡🤣

[surreal osprey]

Oh I see. Give me a second

[tardy night]

Not much point hoarding then. Seems about equal progress

[surreal osprey]

The skin tickets are very useful. I got a number of my skins that way. But I completely understand the angle you are coming from about the RSS. It's something we can pick up off the map. So converting useful materials to RSS when they could be left over for the next time the event comes along is a waste of material.

You are always welcome to leave a feedback about this in our feedback channel:https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606 or a mod can do it up for you if you like.

[wide wraith]

but will all the events that give you a chance to catch up, skin tickets are becoming obsolete

[knotty storm]

Because they only offer a few skins in skin store...

They could offer more, but they're too lasy to add more

[surreal osprey]

There are still a few skins that I haven't yet gotten that are in the skin store so personally I think it's ok. Also there are one's that gives morales we can use the chance to upgrade those skins. But I must admit, not all the skins in the store are worth getting.

[wide wraith]

if you have been playing long enough you dont need though

[surreal osprey]

The store is good idea but for the much older states, it will only remain useful if they introduce newer skins.

[wide wraith]

this is often the issue because they dont play the game, they dont know and because they dont listen to players they get it wrong

we asked for the skin store to be updated years ago

[surreal osprey]

This makes me sad because I like the game.

[wide wraith]

its ok, used to be better but its changed for the worst

[surreal osprey]

Making changes and improvements faster the game would have a better player retention because it would keep the game fresh.

[wide wraith]

the days before all the cats/pets

[surreal osprey]

You don't like the pet update?

[wide wraith]

the mini events kill the interest

breeding should be removed

[surreal osprey]

Have you left a feedback about this?

[wide wraith]

as should the cat events

and the fair

no point we have in the past

[surreal osprey]

There is no harm in doing it again

[wide wraith]

take this new event, too many of the things are cats, then they have the stupid fair again

things like that have ruined the game

and the lack of communication doesnt help

[surreal osprey]

I found a feedback about removing pet breeding. You can check if you already upvote it:#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[wide wraith]

they wont because they would have to refund too many diamonds

[normal peak]

It’s easier and faster to get better skins with pearls than skin tickets..and cheaper. 10k skin tickets for a skin that offers 1 morale point. 30k skin tickets for better one. 4800 pearls for good skin…tickets obsolete anyway

[surreal osprey]

Removing the pet breeding wouldn't remove the pets players already have. So maybe 😬

[stable cosmos]

Skin store is drastically over priced,but then skin tickets are also drastically overvalued

Not like the devs really know the value of anything. If they did we wouldn't get rare badges and chief xp any more

[normal peak]

They meant more when they came out. Once pearls came out they could go in the trash bin with all the other junk

[stable cosmos]

They came out before morale and collection sets. But like everything else, no adjustments made

[normal peak]

Yup

Let me spend 10k tickets it took 3 months to get to complete a set that gives 1 morale point

[surreal osprey]

Some of the skins I don't think are worth getting if you are after stats.

Via the skin store or pearl store

[normal peak]

That’s all skins are for is stats. Want to look pretty play that dress up game in Roblox my daughters play

[stable cosmos]

The skins used to be the only way to get a minor attack buff. Now everything and its dog provides something

[normal peak]

People became strong collecting statues now

[tardy night]

Folks should have seen it coming. Cosmetic potential is endlessly easier than new mechanics or designing stuff like behemoths.

[unreal lichen]

Yes, it's much easier now.

I miss the days when there were only HQ skins, it was much simpler.

[lavish heron]

Thanks 🙏

[surreal osprey]

A few is also given for login in to nature's breath on some days.

[soft gulch]

So thanks to JG I have more gold pets than I need

So I thought I should use a couple of Falcons to get baby

I shouldn't have, I know

But itch....you know

However thanks to the greed of the Devs I stopped.

It needs 100 Viagra pulls and 100 Gene capsules. No thank you very much!

Idk wtf they were thinking

Its a paywall right there, on the 1st step

[crude stratus]

I think I showed the costs in my video

[soft gulch]

No the last stage will have more shop coins given.

However, if you are going for Spec ops frags (only thing worth buying from the shop), then you need to spend in each stage and get 8000 coins. Yello cubes are lovely way to get.

[soft gulch]

I didn't see your video.
I don't see SOS videos usually.

I only see @storm solstice 'S generation hero recommendation videos. Which are old btw, and don't have consideration for style.
Please update them, sarr.

[storm solstice]

?! eloborate...

[jolly harness]

because when he was on the gen we are on there wasn't any beserk / etc... yet, so why would he have taken that into consideration

[soft gulch]

So older videos don't have style mentioned.

From Gen10 onwards when each gen has different style of heroes, players like to know about what set they should have first.

Derek, Arthur, Essie or
Or Laura, Grimm, Cardini

A lot players started with Laura leading Control set, only to find Cardini not being effective.

Having a foresight, that G11 Hunter (Arthur) will be Berserk and then G12 inf (Kyle) will be Berserk, they could've planned better.

[storm solstice]

yeah, bcs the implementation of Hero style was after the videos released

and checked with Player of those generation if the upgrade guide is still valid for the heroes and this got confirme.

[tardy night]

The comment was for people spending 0$ on it.

[soft gulch]

Yeah, I know, they are old and predates the Style ssytem.

I am just hoping that you could update them, with image "overlays", if possible.
Because videos are there and being reffered by a lot of people.

[soft gulch]

Those people should hoard till the last stage. They will get more coins as milestone rewards

[storm solstice]

not possible, would be completely new videos to make.

[soft gulch]

Ah I see.

[woven spire]

They outsmart all😂😂

Still for 0€ spend better last. They cant get all anyway probally

[tardy night]

How 🤔

Assuming 20 rolls per stage free at best, gets to 140 dice at stage 7 - that's totalling 850 by milestones

If they do it 20 per stage - 150x7 - 1050

Small enough a gap that it regardless shouldn't matter much. 🤣

[visual frigate]

Why just 20 per stage?

[soft gulch]

Besides milestones reward, bunch of Shop coins come from Yellow box spin.
Spending 20 per stage vs 140 in last have better chances of getting 800 coins reards in the yellow box spins

[tardy night]

Free dice

[visual frigate]

There are far more than 20 free dice

[tardy night]

Hence the assuming there. If there's a jungle gems giving dice, the equation changes

[woven spire]

think you should get more

but its your best bet anyway

[visual frigate]

No, not counting jungle gems, there are at least 50-60 free dice per stage.

Possibly more. I already made 100+ rolls without any spending.

But I caught some eggs.

[tardy night]

Eh? Teamed up with some spender I assume?

Ah

[visual frigate]

No.

[woven spire]

i teamed up[ with my alt

😂

gotta finish angelica there

but your best bet stays to save last stage and pray

Its quite ridicilous the store refresh every 3 days

instead just having end event.. but hey, they from their point of view its genius

[tardy night]

Folks were already at 5k+ dice iirc this reset 🤷🏽‍♂️

[woven spire]

thats all packs xD

[visual frigate]

48 from personal targets, 6 from state targets, 5 from the green monster, 30 from points wheel

[woven spire]

1500 is 120$