#📋︱feedback-discussion

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tardy night
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I'm going to ignore your posts on this matter until you answer my question. shocked_froggie

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If past performance had to have that high a weight as a factor, newest teams would never be higher than oldest f2p in a whale alliance. But carry on. Imma ignore the posts

digital glacier
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Why can't you answer a simple question. It's a legit question.

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Ok. How about this.
Should individual performance effect your rr score?

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If you consider a new team has played less rr matches, thus having less potential for bad performance. Thus, having a higher score. You would be considering more factors that would make your statement seem wrong,

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You can't answer this question without being proven your point you're trying to make to me with why a lesser stat player has a higher score.

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You can't do it.

tardy night
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🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

digital glacier
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It's simple. Answer a simple question.
Any of them.

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Should individual performance be considered for rr score?

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Should a max players P15 t12 troop be weighted the same as a f2p P15 t12 troop?

stable anvil
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On behalf of this specific feedback they do give sentinels for circuit event its that people choose the hq skins over sentinel when they release them from event.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

tardy night
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Time T : player X has A score.
Player Y has B score
A is 2x of B
Time T1 : player X has D score

Player Y has B score
D is 1/2 of B

Mufasa: look at why this is okay

digital glacier
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I understand what you're asking. But answer a simple question. And you'll see it's not as simple. But you don't get it.

tardy night
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There were no matches and no manipulation between T and T1

digital glacier
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Johnny is max with 500k score.
June is p5 f2p with 1,500,000 score

Something seems wrong.
But is it 🤷

tardy night
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🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

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I'm gonna tell you what happened to those raid scores after your novels. And I guarantee everyone else will laugh. But keep going

hollow zinc
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New pet box are empty?

digital glacier
digital glacier
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They made more complex than original 🤣

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For no reason but to be annoying.

digital glacier
hollow zinc
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i guess i'll just give up. Would need a week to find anything in my inventory ...

digital glacier
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I think it's the tab on the left called advanced. Or war

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Or something. It's one of the ones that don't have a ton in it.

tardy night
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Let's factor in potential forecasted future growth of players for mufasa's state based on hypotheticals like session time, hours spent on dc researching, how much they farm...it will all impact who they can beat 1 year from now. 🫡

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Past performance matters in this game CoffeeTime

digital glacier
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Lol

hollow zinc
tardy night
digital glacier
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I'm still waiting for whatever is supposed to make everyone laugh 🤷

tardy night
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It will have to wait. We need more hypotheticals.

hollow zinc
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For RR the real issue is that they take BP for match making and ... one player with 250K BP and paying vs a player with 250K BP but all F2P, the one paying will always beat the F2P with same BP.

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If you don't fix the matchmaking, no need to fix score, that's a non sense.

digital glacier
digital glacier
hollow zinc
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If you don't base the matchmaking on BP but something else, or fix BP, it will already less "Yolo"

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When I see someone P9 with less BP than me able to break into my P10 settlements and kill 2M troops with just a march of 250K there is something really broken 😄

digital glacier
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And how do you quantify the Purple main node of Behemoth properly in comparison to the red node in comparison to stats 🤷

hollow zinc
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I'm not asking something perfect but here it's unbalanced on purpose. Everything you can get in the cash shop is under rated on purpose. Chief gear weight a ton of BP for nothing, Badges don't count for much. there are a few very easy fix that would improve things a lot. Personally I don't complain I keep myself at a very low BP and could beat anybody of the same BP as long as he doesn't buy everything in the cash shop.

digital glacier
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Rr matching has been an issue since early on, it widened drastically with plasma release epically when t11 came out, it forever will be an issue.

Everyone wants scores and matching to be fixed, but nobody here has any real viable solution how to fix it.
The more that's registered and the more variation in registrants, the worse the matching is, and that's not even talking about the high seed low seed matching system they use for DD.
I've given my suggestion on it but it wasn't good enough apparently 🤷

Instead of people getting together and focusing on things that is 100000 times easier to fix, like how there's huge price variations amongst the exact same items in different shops, or some event currencies expiring and others don't, or how jg ends the same time most often as the event you get rewards for so you potentially lose some because they get recycled
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tons of people tend to focus on something that's been an issue ever since plasma got released. Wouldn't be so much am issue if they fixed some bp values accordingly. Like how 3% infantry attack in normal research lab is (just a number here but it's substantially different) 4000 bp for example, but in the plasma lab the same 3% is 28,000 bp. Using bp would be less of an issue if they fixed all the bp values correctly.
But that still brings the issue with quantifying jolly glide state skill vs band conductor statue skill 🤷 their effectiveness works very different for 2 very different people.

woeful hemlock
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🥺

digital glacier
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Yes. It's old and outdated, They updated it once and basically the devs don't care to update for the years since old gen 7 was a thing.
Showdown is just a timeless classic like tons of other things in this game.

stable cosmos
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They added 4000 coin epic search maps. Then thought theyd done something wonderful. I think we lost the healing speedups for that particular change.

This is why when you do feedback about "make shop better" you need to be hyper specific. And hopefully it doesn't get garbled with other similar feedback that the mods conglomerate.

tardy night
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nobody has a viable solution

Kek

wide wraith
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you still get the healing but its every other week normally

drifting viper
stable cosmos
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No. They'll just mess it up further.

noble grotto
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Pinballs aren't recycled right?

lost jungle
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no , pinballs don't get recycled

noble grotto
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Ty

lost jungle
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you are most welcome

soft gulch
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Quick question, effortless works to reduce biobatteries for Ultra rare skills of behe1?

lost jungle
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yes , effortless progress reduce biobatteries for Ultra rare skills of beh1

soft gulch
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Thank you!

lost jungle
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you are most welcome

coarse verge
stable anvil
soft gulch
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Yep they won't ever get it for Dino. I am in the last tier for Dino and every node upgrade is 300 plus frags.

Couldn't have finished Monkey w/o effortless.

unreal lichen
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Not supresing me, I believe there will be effoetless for Dino only if the 3rd behemoth is out.

coarse verge
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They just call it companion

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But we have yeti soon

unreal lichen
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companiona are not counted. LOL

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But I do accept if we have yeti for the 3rd behemoth. 😆

tardy night
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Be careful what you wish for. They got like 12 behemoths in another game

coarse verge
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Literally there was a yeti and cockroach

tardy night
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Whatever happened to the bear behemoth

coarse verge
tardy night
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These

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That bear looks like a hybrid of a gorilla and wolf . What's yamazaki been doin

unreal lichen
unreal lichen
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You are so right mekki. All I have left is an empty wallet and a smoking head.

soft gulch
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Why tf we got El in our bracket. Bugger is topping every leaderboard

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I so wanted to get top30 in this citcuit

calm meteor
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Well El is just one player 👀 There are still other 29 spots to get in top 30

soft gulch
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Yeah there are 29 spots but because of him every other whale is making more points

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Worse thing is it started on Monday, so now they have more ways to get points via incinerating splitters and plasma

calm meteor
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Isn't this good that it cross-overs SvS so players can get points in both events?

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But I get your point that it is more competitive this way

tardy night
soft gulch
# calm meteor But I get your point that it is more competitive this way

Yeah it is more competitive.

Thing is when it started on Thursday in last 2 SVS, whales already had made points off splinter and plasma on Monday and Tuesday. And made points from completion capsules on Tuesday and Wednesday....for SVS.

So they were kinda dried out on Thursday. Now we will have their full wrath. 😄

coarse verge
tardy night
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It was a poll in their community board

coarse verge
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He is not to be blamed, he is looking for a competitive game and unfortunately the game gave him and everyone in new states no options but transfer

soft gulch
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I can't blame him but I blame the game for giving him cross-gen transfer 😄

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He should be kept where he was, in a cage

calm meteor
wide wraith
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Surely regarding the vote for SR solo or Duo, if the vote is constantly for solo the Devs should realise that Duo isnt wanted and scrap it, not force it upon people

calm meteor
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I think they should but if PTR is of any reference, if same mode runs for three sessions in a row, the other mode will be automatically selected

wide wraith
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yeah that is wrong though, why does FunPlus think that players would suddenly change their minds to a version they dont like, maybe Nanami could comment on this

soft gulch
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Problem what we have is pooling of states in these events is so broad. You will have 15 whales eyeing top spots.

The bracket widening is to blame. There has to be some better ideas to mergers. This kills game for far many people and it saves for a few.

coarse verge
# calm meteor Having El in bracket is not good? or the overlapping events?

Having El in the bracket should have created competition but will rather create more dead states
People are now seeking mega states
No one likes to lose
I mean we will be added to 900 states once we skip gen , why cross generation transfer?

El escaped lack of competition to be further disappointed ( as per the podcast) by less competition
So imagine the disappointment of those who lose

lavish heron
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So we have 5 events running at the same time😂😂😂😂… it’s time to start skipping events

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Right now they’ve made it clear that it’s about milking whales cause this is crazy

wide wraith
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most of the events are done in a few seconds, take the badly named doomsday journey after day one it is impossible to get more than just the sign in for a week

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pinball can be ignored till the the last day and slots really is the same

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its not like the pinball rewards are worth having anyway

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as for operation festival , once level crazy is reached it can be forgotten about

soft gulch
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just yesterday, a guy in my state used 1600 pinballs cuz he saw selena and angie frags in the shop

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it is very difficult to understand that there is not "one thing" that wiill make one powerful

wide wraith
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why they are ancient now

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also they are only skin tickets, not actual frags lol

lavish heron
# soft gulch mid-spenders are getting creamed

Thing is people have to know what to spend on right now and even though everything counts, some things are useless. For example, the new hero Eleanor is a waste if you are not a whale but I see people buying her bundles and I’m like WTF… Lol

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I never got the previous one “Lara” and I whoop people who have her. Know what to spend on. People just splurge when they bring out new things

wide wraith
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at least she gets rid of a bloody turtle

lavish heron
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Now they have put Rita’s bundle in the store and watch people buy her not realizing it’s more expensive. 499 for 10 frags when you can get 10 Gen frags for 299 and other things… it’s all about knowing the right stuff

lavish heron
wide wraith
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or should i say dont know how to use

lavish heron
wide wraith
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unlike the old day of ingame streamers who would show actual accounts these streams now just concentrate on whales, most of whom have no idea, or use the ptr where they are given everything including diamonds

wide wraith
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@feral sinew why do the Devs think, if people are voting against the Duo mode constantly, they will suddenly want to play it after 3 weeks, if its voted against for 3 weeks just delete the Duo mode as it with be obvious (even to the Devs) that no one likes it

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oh wait is it because its a binary vote, they cant fix the result and lie, like with every other vote

stable cosmos
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Got eleanor through the temple game. No expectation of leveling, just nice to have a hero for the collection.

I wish i could get the last of the ray and rolex frags for him...

soft gulch
lavish heron
woven spire
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Correct me if i am wrong

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But every p2w event sos ever released is in game now at the same time?

coarse verge
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Or just ended

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Future tycoon just ended

stable cosmos
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Do we have the crappy claw machine running?

sharp knot
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hello everyone

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how are you guys doing? If you need a feedback and suggestion report, please tag me. I'm around and I could help with one. ChickHeart2

soft gulch
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That's for FP 😁

soft gulch
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Tycoon dices were available free for F2P from supply hub, red envelopes, cooking.

Now you get from Jungle + eggs

The numbers are defo more. If you count given in 30 levels of JG, or 60 levels of mining.

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If you look at Circuit event.
Free chips for F2P were via tasks only. Now you get extra from JG.
So all in all....JG is the balancer, events are more frequent but F2P players are getting more than they did before.

stable cosmos
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Observation
Devs are making the game less fun

Consequence
People don't find it fun

Suggested solution
Not doing your development for you. Try actually listening to the community rather than trying to empty their bank accounts

bright crypt
woven spire
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I am getting dizzy atm

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😂

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Thats more what i mean

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This is annoying for everyone

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Even those that spawn in money. Its to much

woven spire
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Sos is just a bonus

bright crypt
bright crypt
tardy night
tardy night
woven spire
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Idk why people even keep playing for DD

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Its actually so dumb

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they spend their whole year budget and then quit

tardy night
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Peak fomo's downer hits hard 🤣

Bs drug the dope hit when it's not delivered by losing lolol

vale yoke
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I didn't realize there was also a thing called FOBO.

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Fear of a better option

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Like man, they get us twice, with the fobo and the fomo

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Yolo

spark kindle
soft gulch
# tardy night What's higher, 1 progressing to 2 while competition progresses from 8 to 10 Or...

If you are 1 you shouldn't be competing with 8, in the first place.
You should be competing with a guy who is at 3.

I think SoS should allow whales to hire F2P mules like they did in classic RPG games.

Build a feature, where there is a giant piñata where Capital building is at. During this Piñata event everyone rallies it and small gift fragments shatter out across the states. Finders are keepers, but finders have the option to sell these for diamonds to bidding whales. Have gene skills, behe batteries, FS stuff out in this. F2P can make a living out of it.

vale yoke
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I'm sure that won't be misused or anything

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I mean, it's not like anyone has lived in an environment where a large alliance has attempted to control everything including the allocation of rewards or anything.

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Not even because they needed them

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Just because

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Control

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Power

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Ego

tardy night
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Even if not living in toxic wonderland, smallest folks make the easiest targets and are often the first picks to hit for everyone

soft gulch
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poke the bear, with tile hits(NATO - NATO) then FAFO.

tardy night
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Be svip 3 and you will tilehit half the state by the game's settings itself

vale yoke
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I'm just giggling because sure, let's waste some troops on impotent tile hits just to be annoying. That surely won't have consequences at all

tardy night
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Something tells me an svip 5 autogather and tielhit doesn't get the same response

vale yoke
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This is a game where people will freely target players for things that happened last year and say "it's a war game, git gud" like they weren't just holding on to a video game grudge. And they'll punish an entire alliance for it.

But sure, those tiles hits are super effective.

tardy night
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They might kill 300 whale troops. Even 30k wounded if it's their 6th March with no heroes

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🤣how will they ever live

vale yoke
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Lol and the repercussions, oh man... Lasting

cursive vessel
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I left a state that is like that 😅

vale yoke
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"you hit my tile and even though it did more damage to you, dishonor on your cow, your family, your whole alliance" burns everything

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My state isn't like that, thankfully. It was for a time but we fixed that.

tardy night
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It might purely be accidental as well. Cuz we know how distance and sending troops works in this game.

vale yoke
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Right!

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Don't bring logic into this, Chek. If you start talking about legitimate situations and common sense, it will anger someone somewhere lol

tardy night
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But, regardless, laughable to say smallest spenders choose to compete with bigs.

Quite the other way around. Mid spenders pick on the easiest targets. Most real whales will leave low folks alone. It's the 100k mid spend crowd thats throwing weight around.

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🤷🏽‍♂️

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So while for 1 it's a dopamine hit, for the other it's a matter of survival against ...25% of the crowd.

vale yoke
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I love the whales that are nice like that, or they help you get your min points and such and give you a good time. Those are some of my favorite people.
And whale alts. When it's a little alt of a larger player and they're just like "oh yeah, I don't have a bunch of stuff and this is for fun"

Had a great conversation yesterday with our Raid opponent after battle and they were an alt. So sweet and we had a lot of fun

tardy night
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The 1% of crowd > doesn't have to worry about anyone hitting them. Their worry is beating folks in buildings. Minimal risk, most reward. The risk is in loss of "investment" if they don't keep spending.

Mid spend - might be targeted by 1%. 1 player out of 100. Risk is in loss of whatever they have outside enlistment but they can survive the 2 hits to port away beforehand if online before risk exposure. That's maybe 15-19% of the crowd?

80% of the crowd - easy target for the entire 20% every time - 1 hit from around 10% will constantly leave them at permanent losses if it's happening anywhere outside controlled environments like svs.

Who's competing then really shocked_froggie

woven spire
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It would be not reasonable to give lower spenders or weaker players a different playground from the big

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Cause then why spend? if i compete my own level anyway. People trying to get ahead by spending

tardy night
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They had azurtame heist of separate plasma levels in the dragon thing. It's a troll fest

vale yoke
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As a lower level player, much of the time it feels like a meat grinder to do anything pvp. It becomes a case of whoever runs or shields the fastest, so the whale gets the next guy.

tardy night
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They used to have safe zones. Folks here dislike safe zones for some reason 🤣

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We used to do svs with 1 hq in forest. Or 2. 🤣

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Real risk of losing all troops
No bs 99% recovery.

vale yoke
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My brain tried to jump track on the train of thought because this brought up something from yesterday with another Raid. It's a known fact I'm a little guy on purpose, but it's also an inside joke with a few people that my alt is the first one hit at every single possible moment in an event because it's a p9.
Within the first five minutes of raid, I'm always the first one burning. It's never someone of my level doing it, it's someone who is a p15. So competition? What competition? Most of the time I can't even play events because the supposed competition has decimated my ability to even earn min.
And I'd love to say "oh people can just reinforce me" they can, and they did, but then they have to move. It's unreasonable to expect my team to sit there and keep viable troops in my defense when they need to be out on the field doing things. It's also unreasonable to see high quality players intentionally punching down so they can feel like they did something, while calling it competition.

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The expectation is that I spend money to build up, but I refuse to spend money on this game. So I get to deal with it, smile and say good game, and wait until the next time I'm whale food.

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That's what this game is for lower tiered players. A series of platters on which to perch while we wait for someone who spends to come eat us, while patting themselves on the back for their optimal strategy.
And I'm not mad at the whales, either, because the game is specifically designed this way. It's like being mad at a cat for chasing a mouse.

tardy night
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The hilarious bit though is someone thinking smalls choose who to compete with 🤣🤣

vale yoke
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I wish we could choose.

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I wish

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Oh man how I wish

cursive vessel
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I used to purposefully stay a low hq but I think i have a neon sign so I just upgraded as it made no difference and i still have said neon sign 😂

vale yoke
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I'd still choose some teams with high level players on, because that experience is something that helps my team, but I definitely wouldn't be choosing the alliances we get matched with.

tardy night
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Wait just another year. 95% will have said neon sign

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All the signs of hyperinflation are showing. Now it's just a matter of enough whales taking the cue and leaving. Then the floodgates open

vale yoke
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Gross. True, but.... Ugh.

soft gulch
tardy night
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There's plenty of easy solutions. This company itself implemented them before they veered off-course because of the demographic they start to cater more to.

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Low ceiling of stat, high percentage of item completion via grinding, branch the item out in mutually exclusive counters, all those things lead to better competitive ability while still favoring p2w mechanics.

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Heroes are an easy example -80% of their performance is achievable within a decent time frame via grinding and in game rewards.

15% can easily do red heroes. 1% are capable of blue frame triple heroes. All within the same time frame.

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Contrast that with pet breeding or behemoth companions.

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Or just contrast with new hero mechanics themselves. DNA and resonance skills.

vale yoke
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Being here sometimes gives me a headache

woven spire
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DD for example

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Day of today, i still do not understand what business people have outside safezone till tanks spawn

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Some answered literally "because i want to port" Like dude

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You doing it yourself then

vale yoke
woven spire
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You will be close to useless for the rest of the match. Cannot reinforce, neither hit tanks

vale yoke
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Other teams can utilize safe zone all they want, but I can't in good conscience sit on the sidelines in an active battle experiencing minimal risk just to wait for some tanks. That's not the directive I was given, so I can't do it.

In my own alliance, we often don't have a choice but to fight, or stand by and lose. We prefer to lose on our own merit by trying our hardest.

woven spire
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you can reinforce from safezone.. Jump puddles from safezone.. Can do basiucally all

vale yoke
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I get that, but that's not my directives. Additionally, because I know I'm going to be burned first, I send things out as quickly as possible so I still have troops. That doesn't mean it isn't annoying that a p15 looks right at me and goes "mmmm fresh meat".

A p10 coming at me? A p12? Fine. But a p15 with red reso and maxed behe? That's just proving a point

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It also doesn't mean it isn't ridiculous that an alliance with players at my same level - my alliance - is up against alliances with teams of p14-15 just to encourage expense and calling it "competition"

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When you're a smaller player, you shouldn't have to look at options like sidelining it to play events - you have the expectation you're playing against teams of similar levels.
This isn't true in sos

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Please don't mistake my unwillingness for ignorance; I know how to stay safe in these instances, but it's against my nature and against the orders I'm given (for my alt) to do so.
My point is that the game is designed to force players of my level against higher tiered players under the guise of competition to encourage spending on the little guys and act as a balm for the bigger players that they are - indeed - strong. So strong they can burn lower than them in one hit

stable anvil
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To all who blabbed after reset about sentinel yall dumb

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That bug would have stayed if yall didnt made a feedback

vale yoke
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In context with the conversation between Chek and Udham, this is the larger issue wherein the development shifted to create these environments, specifically to cater to those other players.

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And I'm using Raid as an example. Additionally, it ties back to the previous conversation from over the weekend regarding how seeding and matching is handled overall

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I'ma go take some Tylenol.

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Then why have I bought my kid Operator skins?

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Oh wait, just read that back.

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It is and it isn't skill-based tbh because a buddy of mine streams and I've seen some crazy stuff from OP skins there. And word on the street is that the new skin for BO6 is entirely p2w whalebait.

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But anyway, State of Survival things

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Things about state of Survival

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The game

soft gulch
vale yoke
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State of survival

stable anvil
coarse verge
stable anvil
coarse verge
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I always miss good bugs

stable anvil
coarse verge
stable anvil
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Now you look at it, its now frags

coarse verge
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😂😂

stable anvil
coarse verge
stable anvil
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Shortly after reser

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I got rank 1 thats why

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If people didn't mention no feedback the bug could have ran its course

soft gulch
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omg, what was this bug, i had no clue.

stable anvil
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Well i go upvote feedback because now the bug is gone

soft gulch
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who feedback'd it?

stable anvil
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I maxed my sentinel this reset

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If i could give 2 sentinel i would buy only can be recycled

soft gulch
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this one?

cursive vessel
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It was feedback about wanting to be able to find sentinels, it wasn't about a bug 😅

stable anvil
cursive vessel
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They do fix bugs sometimes, especially ones that are good ones😂

stable anvil
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Devs ae blind unless they see people make feedback about it, gosh i wish that intern would have left the thing as it was

soft gulch
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yeah that is what happened....they look for something else. and found it

stable anvil
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Welp one intern is now being replaced

soft gulch
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next time onwards, say the magical words "downvote army" I will bring Mahiru's entire alliance with me

stable anvil
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People dont know that devs do give sentinel for circuit event that f2p can get from other events. Its that people need to sacrifice the hq skin for a sentinel

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But people rather look good and not be smart and grab sentinel then complain oh we need more sentinel general frags. Like i dont mind pearl shop bringing back general sentinel frags but dont say devs never give anyone a chance to get the full sentinel

soft gulch
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I usually get all the sentinels from the event first the Red Gems which give Behe materials worth 500 crates and 100 Pearls x 5 too difficult to ignore

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500 Behe crates are worth 15000 diamonds = 150$

woven spire
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Was like wtf

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only had 1 as i recycled 2

stable anvil
stable anvil
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Usually down the line the hq skins rolldown into pearl shop anyways

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And the more you max specific things the more free pearls you have to buy special luxury items

woven spire
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but had exact 5 of them and pretty sure i recycled them as couldnt upgrade

soft gulch
stable anvil
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They dont think too far in the long run.

stable anvil
woven spire
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😂

tardy night
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We have had instances where hq costing 25k to upgrade were 400 bucks at reset. Just a way to easily push competition.

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People aren't spending? Drop a "bug" watch the fomo take over.

If it's too many who dip in, pull it back, cuz then they losing targeted money. If it's too little, they gave some a free taste and now every competitor wants it too.

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Even you guys have had it before. Remember the behemoth "bug"

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Everyone was up in arms for the cost of a long term update pushing upwards of 20k$ instead of the standard 3k$ of prior updates at the time. They gave a "bug" that let people have a purple gorilla. See its effectiveness, then slashed prices down to what it would have been. All easy marketing.

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All to push fomo onto the top folks

vale yoke
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"omg hahaha fp messed up and did this thing"
Haha no they didn't.

Like when joint ops allowed people for a certain time to basically crush the thing and then - whoops - it was "resolved".

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Players were telling each other you could basically breeze through joint ops, and within - what was it, hours?? - it was "fixed". But hey, it served the purpose.

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To us, these are bugs or unintentional exploits which favor players and cost the company money. While their in-house testing ain't great, these aren't accidents, especially when they result in higher spending and higher engagement.

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It's a box, with a stick.

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The cheese is plastic tho

tardy night
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Black Friday sales: original price: 100

Sale price 200 slashed down to 120. It's a deal of a lifetime, don't miss out!

vale yoke
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If you could have heard the noise I just made

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A cross between a laugh and a... Idk... A honk?

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Like a "HAAAA-eeehhhnnnnhhh"

tardy night
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Someone sitting in the fart+ office going through every pack and every event reward, every day, and has the permits to immediately release fixes with the corrected pricing or value. shocked_froggie

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And the bug just happens to find its way into the game between ptr and live release.

vale yoke
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Like, I know the turnaround from ptr is fast, but they really are watching this stuff. We just don't see it

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That's part of the model

tardy night
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Ye, pretty sure anyone given that bad a job wouldn't have the requisite authority to determine correct pricing by themselves 🤷🏽‍♂️🤣

warped token
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SoS now feels like visiting Las Vegas and staying there forever even though you have your home and work in a diff place. All these nonsense events like Fountain of Dreams, Pinball Madness, Hidden Treasures, Lucky Slots, Pharoh's Fortune, etc are every week now. This plus there's always a major event going on plus all the 1000 mini games that comes twice a week. Just ridonculous amount of content in the game designed to get people to become annoyed with the game rather than keep the interest or engage players

soft gulch
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I dont think you can escape this easily
they just smash it across your face

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They are doing this low-entry gigs also a LOT

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9 bundles, each available for a buck

warped token
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someone up there in monetization team has absolutely no clue what they are doing.

soft gulch
vale yoke
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Yup. Imagine the person who goes "heh heh they have these 9 bundles for 99 diamonds/ a buck a piece. Lul they so dumb, someone's getting fired"

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And then buys them all

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Talk about a lack of self-awareness.

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Like, don't get it wrong, this title is positively hemorrhaging revenue monthly, but it's still making money, and that's one of the methods.

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And while they continue to divert more and more staff from the title and settle into the same state of existence as their titles previous, there will always be a subset of players looking at those bundles going "haha devs so stoopid they made a mistake" and buying it.

solemn kraken
soft gulch
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There was a time when you get a 20 Behe crate + 200 pearls bundle for 499. And 999 was 30 crates + 300 pearls. Diminishing returns made players stop.
Now they give 40 crates and 500 pearls

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Boom!

lunar python
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So when will they give some extra attention to old features like Horde, Trap. The rewards are obsolete again and they only focus on money grab games like Jungle Gem, Purrfect Jam, etc.

zealous dirge
fast bronze
solemn kraken
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what is in the two beside the Crown?

astral stratus
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Ita statues

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The left one is the nutcracker set

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The other one with the abyssal fish

coarse verge
hollow zinc
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Do they broke the pinball now? When I use 10 balls they almost all sink down directly and can't even reach the x2?

solemn kraken
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just bad luck

hollow zinc
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Badluck or just less power? Cause I'm pretty sure the balls have a lot less strength now.

spark kindle
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Leave the screen before it finishes if you don't get your desired points. Just click on a new tab and you won't lose your pinballs, you can try again

cursive vessel
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Mine is doing the same, it's totally missing the x2 and falling straight down 😅

slate fossil
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Sadly, I had like 3 or 4 balls in a row-get squat diddly- they all sank to the bottom with a resulting 0!!

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Oddly enuf, it did do the spinning thing at the end for coins, As- I don't remember in the past the ability to get that if you got zero on the pinball? It seems like it was no chance if the result was zero with the ball shoot....

solemn kraken
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one had no problems, and now has over 1000 points, the other has less than 1000 points

solemn kraken
astral stratus
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This isnt the place for memes, please refrain from posting them here. We have a dedicated place for that, thank you

solemn kraken
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someone posted a meme? was it at least a good one?

cloud ridge
charred swift
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On a positive note, good to see notification for frenzy officer now in alliance chat

wide wraith
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I know that time flies but halloween already???

solemn kraken
unkempt sun
solemn kraken
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looks like Maddie and Frank 😛

woven spire
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Just a copy paste😂

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Pinball was first introduced with halloween

wide wraith
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i see pinball is broken again, typical they add more junk and break other things

digital glacier
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They've had skills for pet adventures for more than 3 months associated to the pets. It's taken then at least that long to get this event too come to us

solid rivet
#

Please someone tell them to stop adding new events, its sick to see 10 events up.....

drifting viper
solid rivet
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save your effort, it will not be worthy to make that

tardy night
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Gotta be specific which events to remove. Else they remove pet adventure and SR, and keep hidden treasures peepothink

soft gulch
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Today they decided to turn everything on they have.

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You name it they have it

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What you cannot name it, even that they have it

stable cosmos
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I just want events that can only be "played" via money placed in the bundles and top ups menu rather than the events menu. They can keep them if they want, but if they're unplayable except with money then they're just bundles with a fancy UI

soft gulch
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It's not enough FP, start more events.

wide wraith
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unfortunately the rules of this discord mean that i cant give feedback on all the events that started at reset

soft gulch
wide wraith
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its time someone from FunPlus got off their butt and explained why all these 💩 events have been added at the same time?#oh wait its fake award time thats why

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which award are they going from, "Least amount of Communication" or "Worst game in History" or "biggest ripoff of its players" or something else???

tardy night
lavish heron
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Balls find it hard to even get a push up

wide wraith
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so many events, do the Devs think everyone is still in lockdown?, the events are not even that good, the dumb things with the pets, should die in a fire along with whoever designed that and authorised them to go into the game

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i remember the Devs saying their would be MORE communication, that was a lie their has been LESS!!! And with the so called vote on Survival Royale, the Devs have shown their contempt for the players

stable cosmos
# tardy night

That better increment at a rate of 1 every 3 years. If i wanted a tamagotchi I'd buy one.

And these things cost for some people. Does fp really think people wanna spend $500 on something then run a subscription with limited items to keep it?

wide wraith
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99% wont read that they will lose their pets and thats whay they are hoping

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@feral sinew want to explain the companies thinking and if you dont know get someone here who can explain this total Cluster F that the game is becoming

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whoever is advising the Devs/Management should be fired as all they want to do is Kill the game, or is that the plan????

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even the <@&628563208164081690> are taking the inactivity of the CM s an example as how to ignore players now, maybe its time that if they are not active on discord as per the duties they agreed to, they lose the packs they are sent

floral sedge
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Good morning lord, how can i help you ? CoffeeTime

wide wraith
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not unless you can tell me why the game thinks everyone is still in lockdown, and why the CM still ignores the community

cloud ridge
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@feral sinew be useful for once and address these dumb issues

wide wraith
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someone who has NEVER played a game in their lives

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and WHY is there still a FUNPLUS group who dont even play SOS, the Admin of this group is slipping, maybe the discord needs a total overhaul

zealous dirge
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Good morning everyone!

soft gulch
wide wraith
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will we get the usual line thats its what the players want, its not want players want, well maybe the top 0.1% who will buy anything want it, but as the vote in 857 showed we there dont want Survival Royale Duo, but the Devs will ignore the will of the players and bring it back after 3 weeks, that isnt listening to the players

floral sedge
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For the Survival royal event they have put a vote in game so if they the solo version gets the most votes then that will be on next time as well
But personally i like the duo as well, stronger players can help smaller player get more rewards Hugssss

wide wraith
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but if the majority hate it, then is shouldnt come back ever

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and whats the story with the pets and that junk introduced at reset

floral sedge
wide wraith
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see tihs is were the Community manager or someone employed by FunPlus should be online and answering

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but they wont as just like the Devs they have contempt for the players

zealous dirge
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I like the Duo Survival Royal. I play it always on voice with a friend... I do wish the rewards were better though.

floral sedge
wide wraith
stable cosmos
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Wow. 1 item in the shop to reduce wildness

wide wraith
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its a scam

stable cosmos
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Hope thats a reduction of 400 for any pet you use it on. Haven't figured out how you gain wildness yet though. If its only by sending pets on patrol i won't be doing that

floral sedge
wide wraith
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pets have no place in the game anyway

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yeah thats what i mean

stable cosmos
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And its a bit broken. I have reached a boss i potentially can't beat. I do 0 damage to it. At all. Not even a number showing up saying 0. Just, nothing

floral sedge
stable cosmos
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Read up please

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You lose the pet.

wide wraith
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released is a set thing with the pets

cursive vessel
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I was reading this on the other chat channel, you don't lose it lose it. It means it disappears from the event and you can't use it any more. Not that you lose it for real

wide wraith
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then it should be worded properly

stable cosmos
cursive vessel
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It's sos, when is anything ever written properly 😂

wide wraith
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just scrap the event

stable cosmos
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How much do i want to trust anything that they won't do that?

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As written you lose the pet. No guarantee thats incorrect until proven otherwise

wide wraith
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its like the breeding, totally worthless to all but the highest spenders

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experience has shown us that we cant trust anything the Devs say or do, so it needs to be proven otherwise ,

spark kindle
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Is there a feedback already about the wildness issue?

wide wraith
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feedback and the popularity contest is useless, the Devs do what they want anyway

spark kindle
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Thanks for your input but that's wasn't what I asked

wide wraith
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so i doub it

floral sedge
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There isn't one at the moment dane

spark kindle
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Hmm I'll try to write one when I get a chance.

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Thank you

zealous dirge
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Thank you!

stable cosmos
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It needs to be worded absolutely correctly. What it says may not be what it does. But thats super unclear.

spark kindle
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In the meantime, the folks here that are complaining about wildness problem, please dm me your concerns so I'll include those as well

wide wraith
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and the Devs will get to see it pop up in about 2 weeks by that time players could have lost pets they paid for using reall money

soft gulch
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how tf you lose pets?

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you do really?

wide wraith
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no one knows but as its written yes

soft gulch
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holyshiz.

wide wraith
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after all you can release pets as most will know

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and it says the pets will be released

soft gulch
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yes, we can release pets but they should tell this when you are sending them out

tardy night
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You send pets out on patrols. Every patrol is +10 wilderness per pet

wide wraith
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currently no one knows exactly

cloud ridge
tardy night
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After 10 trips if your pet doesn't have a collar used on them, they may bid adieu in 24 hours.

soft gulch
cloud ridge
# soft gulch you do really?

No clue, but based on text you lose them, so rather not chance it. Imagine playing it casual and losing the pet you've spent £££ for...

cloud ridge
round garnet
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Anyone else having a problem where you open random pet crates and it says you get a new pet but never receive it and therefore don’t get credit for the weekly task of obtaining a new pet? Or just me?

tardy night
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It's in your bag

round garnet
soft gulch
tardy night
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Go to your bag and open that pet token after releasing from crate. Will be close to the pet bone etc

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There should be a pic here somewhere of what it looks like

round garnet
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I will keep looking. If I can’t find it I’ll try a ticket. I screenshot everything so hopefully that helps me.

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Thanks

soft gulch
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you get pet adoption certificate

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when you open the purple crate

stable cosmos
floral sedge
stable cosmos
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I'm just not gonna bother sending out the patrols i guess. Although i could just waste blue pets on it

tardy night
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Per patrol

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They releasing a pet in 40 days at 100%/400 wildness?

spark kindle
floral sedge
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Thank you dane Hugssss

stable cosmos
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400/400 would be 100% yeah? Just weird values

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Perhaps later patrols do more wildness

soft gulch
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We started getting these in SOTF this MIGo, but I have finished Monkey and these cannot be used in Ultra skills.
Cant be recycled to MK3 batteries either. tf we should we do with these.

viscid ore
spark kindle
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Unfortunately true

soft gulch
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woah 300 upvotes!

spark kindle
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I asked help from community ☺️

viscid ore
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My team of animals, these are the weakest of all, if they get lost they would do me a favour!! Less mouths to feed! GO, YOU’RE FREE!!

soft gulch
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its like a wolf guarding 4 sheeps lmao

coarse verge
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The game found a way for pets to divorce us and get child support

soft gulch
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biggest nightmare of JG:

blazing kayak
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no the biggest nightmare is so far in JG only 1 usable item and a few magnifiers. Rest all bio 🤣

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I hope people complaining about JG didn't mean they decided to "improve the experience"

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out of 33 drops, 30 bio 😄

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I guess now don't really need to make sure I login every 6 hours solves that problem 🤣

blazing kayak
wide wraith
coarse verge
blazing kayak
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That would be terrible if they designed it like this 😂

wide wraith
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and still no comment from the CM

wide wraith
blazing kayak
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Let us think, do we have any reason to doubt the devs to be fair to people and their money 🤔

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When you could kiss your red cat goodbye, thanks for the few items for your care red cat

coarse verge
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Can I tag chek?

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😂

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Or Liannin

tawny fox
# coarse verge

Is like that buying a car but then you have to pay everyday so the car will not go back to garage byitself 🤣

blazing kayak
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and leaves you some oil and petrol

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and a medium used tyre

zealous dirge
tawny fox
zealous dirge
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I have money for a Twingo or 2 bundles 🤣

cursive vessel
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I put blue pets in patrol, figured if they disappear it's no great loss 😂

bronze ore
tardy night
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Can send just one blue. Whether it affects anything I'll seepeepothink

bronze ore
worldly sable
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My balls are all floppy and aren’t pin balling as normal, pls fix

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I know, I am a poet 🙂‍↕️

wide wraith
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i noticed that this morning as well, all since this other junk was added

worldly sable
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Needs little blue pills, I shoot my load of balls and they all fail to perform

wide wraith
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the devs will probably add it,

cursive vessel
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My pinball was bad yesterday too, it's like they're too heavy and just drop straight down 😂

slate fossil
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Mine has been opposite today- yesterday, I couldn't get a point one ,they all went straight down without zip for points
Today I have gotten a few to bounce about.

wide wraith
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mine bounce but the score is a quarter of yesterday

fair plinth
tame harbor
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I wonder when the developers will add a new building - obstetrics and gynecology for animals 🤔

spark kindle
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that won't be family friendly, we're sticking to the "storks brought you" story here

fair plinth
tame harbor
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🤦

spark kindle
#

this whole pet feature would have been awesome if it were hero specific, like the minion of a warlock. but no, they had to be greedy, make every hero assignable and forcing people to accumulate multiple pets

tame harbor
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Then it is necessary to add one more building, in addition to obstetrics and gynecology, it is necessary to add an institute for training on a gynecologist

spark kindle
coarse verge
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Now , I don’t want to pay child support so I am not breeding pets or taking the family for a walk

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I am keeping them hostage

spark kindle
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I already have a kid and a cat, I can't take care of another baby

tame harbor
# blazing kayak don't give ideas

On the contrary, we need the developers to introduce these buildings and professions faster, people will come up to speed faster and finally close this abnormal project.

wide wraith
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or they could just close the pets totally and admit it was a terrible idea

tame harbor
wide wraith
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Yamazaki should be shot, drawn and quartered

tame harbor
#

Probably such events as gynecology, animal crossing, buy Viagra and so on, indicate that the project is on the verge of closing, most likely, people are already leaving en masse and will continue to leave

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From this madness

blazing kayak
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or make more money

cursive spear
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Where we can talk with sales of sos? Am asking wich section

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Which *

soft gulch
woven spire
cursive spear
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I don't know that's why am asking

woven spire
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Think they just throw packs in shop in all possible combinations

soft gulch
cursive spear
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Or should I speak with fun plus team?

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Maybe they will show me how

wide wraith
cursive spear
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Oh thank you

spark kindle
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I think your best bet would be to reach out to their sales/marketing executives on linkedin

wide wraith
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not that they will help you much

spark kindle
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I doubt you can do that through game

wide wraith
slate fossil
slate fossil
wide wraith
slate fossil
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They don't always ignore, it may seemingly be so- but, not entirely

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I have known many to get responses from FP, took at least 2 weeks, give or take, thoughshocked_froggie

wide wraith
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i am still waiting for replies from over a year ago, gave up though

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its like trying to talk to a CM in here, little or no chance

slate fossil
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I can't argue that-
I would def email them again, as yours has long since been buried or deleted, I would imagine
The best way to get an email read is the subject line < true story

slate fossil
wide wraith
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i set up a view/read report so i knew it was delievered and it wasnt even read

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sure why not

slate fossil
wide wraith
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a few years ago they promised better communication, since then it has got worse

slate fossil
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would you care to add some suggestions for better communication? for the report

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like in a perfect world- or even a half one?

wide wraith
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more CMs in discord regular chats with the Devs as they used to do

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the time they are most needed in when a new event starts or after an update, thats when the game normally messes up

slate fossil
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okay, Shadow- it's done, let me know if you want changes, so we can do that quickly, before the hunters read it

wide wraith
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perfect thanks

slate fossil
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PinkHearts your welcome- happy to help-
Hopefully it will get some attention to it- I'm not above posting it every week until such time that it is noticedFlorkHeart

wide wraith
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sounds good to me

slate fossil
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well I'm off to tackle the pet adventures- already spent so much time on it, seems like!!

woeful hemlock
#

The pinball is like weight a few hundreds kg or some kind of gravity added, I can't even manage to reach the X2 item after so many tries.

floral yacht
#

A member of my alliance sent me a screenshot of my HQ and I absolutely loved the graphics she is using! The screenshot she sent me is the top one and the graphics in my game are the bottom ones. How can I make the graphics look like the top ones for my game? I am already using the new graphic mode and even tried switching to the old ones but it's still not like the top one.

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Sorry for sending this here but I don't know where else I can send picture examples

zealous dirge
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3D graphics vs 2D. As far as I know not all players have that possibility.

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Check it in Settings/graphics

floral yacht
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Those are the only settings I can see in both PC and mobile versions. Does that mean that I am not one of the players who can use 3d graphics?

zealous dirge
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(I was changing my game into English)

floral yacht
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Ah, such a shame...🥲 It looks so beautiful... I dont know why they dont give everyone that choice

zealous dirge
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I will try to get more info

floral yacht
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Thank you!

zealous dirge
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Can I dm you if I get it?

floral yacht
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Of course!

soft gulch
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3D graphics are available if your game country is set to KR or JP.
I have been told this option is available in some states as well.

zealous dirge
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My game is in Spanish. If I don't remember wrong I even got a reward (a couple of years ago?) for going to 3D mode

wide wraith
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it was a trial but as i remember the 3d mode wasnt that popular as it lagged too much

soft gulch
stable anvil
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@spark kindle did 1 patrol with this pet and already got 11 points out of 400 for wildness

tame oxide
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can we get these "thank you" mess disabled, it's easy to miss important messages because of these 🙁

tame oxide
stable anvil
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Just wanted to point out the wildness tab and how many for just 1 patrol

zealous dirge
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Maybe one day we will get chocolates and flowers, who knows?

spark kindle
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Ah yes thank you, it's ridiculous really

stable anvil
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What i would expect is that if your friendship lvl is max or high why would they then turn wild?

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Do devs not own pets

spark kindle
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Apparently not

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You should stop looking for logic behind these things because there is none

zealous dirge
stable anvil
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Just need devs to stop adding ridiculous rules

spark kindle
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I'd be glad if they just stopped dumping new features right and left

floral yacht
solemn kraken
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oh, and the HQ in the top looks great, the rest looks like a bad cartoon: like the difference between Lego and Duplo

floral yacht
solemn kraken
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yeah, ah don't have the timer visible, and when they have the Plasma Event ah can't claim the Transmissions because they simply don't show up

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the timer for the FHT and the Chief Points (the 80 points that hang around for 8 hours) are something ah would like to see, don't care about the Resource Plots

desert hearth
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Hey, can you never see them at all?

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No matter which graphic mode you use?

solemn kraken
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the timers? not in the old graphics, and during the Plasma Event (or whatever it is) the icon for the Plasma doesn't go away from Intelicopter

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and sometimes ah have to check the Intel to get the FHT to show to claim, even after the time has expired

desert hearth
desert hearth
solemn kraken
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maybe because ah don't do the Intels anymore?

desert hearth
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Yes I think that might be the reason, as long as this plasma generator picture is showing the timer and FHT is “hidden”

solemn kraken
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yeah, ah usually click the side menu for the Intel, not the Intelicopter itself, to get the FHT to show

desert hearth
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Yea I do the same, I think that’s much faster CoffeeTime I was just checking if you might face a bug

solemn kraken
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yeah, but the timer doesn't show up ever

desert hearth
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That’s weird though

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But you said intel is always present right

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If I remember right it’s only shown when intel was completed dinolurk I can check it quick

solemn kraken
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some Icon on the Intelicopter is always up, but the folder for the FHT does show up when it's due

zealous dirge
solemn kraken
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can you make it so they understand it's only about the HQ skin, not the ugly looking Duplo trees that come with the new graphics?

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and the big moon effect is one reason mah HQ is staying in the bottom left corner 😛

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might move it to the top left when ah completely open up mah HQ

desert hearth
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I will check for myself next time when it’s due if it is showing up or not, if you want I can create a feedback in the meantime regarding the issue that the plasma leakage will hide the transmission whenever the event is around. Cry_RIZIN

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I forgot to reply on your message AG_Kermit_Sip

desert hearth
solemn kraken
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much thankings to you 🙂

desert hearth
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I will write a feedback quick and will share it for you in the feedback channel then BlushFrog

solemn kraken
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ah will look later to see what the icons are on both buildings

desert hearth
lavish heron
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Is survival royale broken??

solemn kraken
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can you also add that not everyone can see the timer for the FHT? just when it's ready

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same with the 80 Chief Points

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maybe wait until ah can check what Icon is active

fluid shuttle
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Hey Azayji, can you explain how is it broken? Yesterday it was working but I haven't played today. peepothink

lavish heron
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My March died and it kept me in the game saying waiting for my partner to revive me

desert hearth
lavish heron
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What it does in duo mode but this isn’t duo mode

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Had to close and open the game

solemn kraken
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okay, tabbie should be charged enough by now, will go get it and check

fluid shuttle
solemn kraken
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okay, the other timer that doesn't show up is for the Final Hope Supplies (just the timer for how long it will stay around, not for when it will be back)

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the crap that dominates is for the Daily Drop, forcing people to literally pay for it to go away

desert hearth
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I do not have a symbol asking me to pay for the daily drop Cry_RIZIN

solemn kraken
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oo, never mind, clicking it made it go away (for now at least)

desert hearth
solemn kraken
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now there is nothing on the Events Billboard

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yes, a timer giving a count down to when the Supplies will be available would be nice

desert hearth
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I will set a feedback up for you ChickHeart2

solemn kraken
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like you have for when training or upgrading

digital glacier
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Final hope is every 8 hours

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For the Stam anyhow.

short patio
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i agree with mufasa.. why change something that is working fine when there are thousands of other things that are annoying..

digital glacier
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As for the other crap that always comes that's part of the reason we have that popup from the left.

Knowledge is power.

solemn kraken
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there shouldn't be a countdown for when it runs out anyway, it should be up until you claim it

short patio
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so you can claim it before it does

solemn kraken
#

but it shouldn't disappear

short patio
#

🤦‍♂️

cursive vessel
#

It gets replaced, so you can claim it and then another shows up at the next time slot

solemn kraken
#

do your tomatoes rot on the vine if you don't collect them?

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it takes 8 hours to replace it

cursive vessel
#

Yeah I know that

desert hearth
digital glacier
#

How about. In bounty blast., pinball, etc etc.
1,000 silver for 10 gold limit 10
10,000 silver for 100 gold limit 10
^ 10 silver for 1 gold limit 1,100 🤷😂

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Why we need to have 4-8 different sections for conversion and all is 1000 for 10 and not 100 for 1 🤷

solemn kraken
#

it's telling you when your Troops are ready to recruit, and they stay until you do

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they don't have a countdown until they desert

cursive vessel
#

The claim countdown timer is fine as it is. Some times i log in and i have like 2 mins to claim it, it's nice to know 😂

desert hearth
#

Maybe we can find a midway at this feedback and change the wording to “allow final hope supplies to stack up when they can’t be claimed within the given period of time” ?

short patio
solemn kraken
#

not asking for them to stack, was just wanting to know how much time there was until the next lot arrives

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nor to auto-claim

digital glacier
#

I can't see a troop timer if I don't request help.

I don't want to request help 🙄

short patio
#

yeah stop making suggestions to a feature that is working fine as it is

digital glacier
#

I haven't intentionally requested help for about 2 years 🙄

solemn kraken
#

gotcha, stop making suggestions

digital glacier
#

They haven't been able to fix horde scheduling for 2 years 🤷
They haven't fixed trap scheduling for about 2 years because they added the event timer.

Please. We don't need them fkn with timers or clocks.

Long time players know, they have a massive issue with releasing correct display dates for events, especially like hq skins

cursive vessel
#

Some stuff is good for feedback but some should be left alone. If it works, it's fine 😂

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That's about my limit, if its working, have a little dance and leave it be 😂

desert hearth
short patio
worldly sable
#

I sent my orange kitty into the wilderness 😥

solemn kraken
desert hearth
worldly sable
#

1 time in game

cursive vessel
#

Well, if it doesn't work, there's a bug and that's different 😅

worldly sable
#

Is it going to run away 😭

desert hearth
#

For the normal path the wildness won’t take effect

solemn kraken
digital glacier
#

Example.
Pets have many skills now.
And assigning them is a lot different than tempest.
Extra popup for replacement.
Can't click on a hero icon for the hero associated with the pet to take you to that pet on that hero, you have to search for it. > TA is nice and easy.
^lots of improvements could be made
But pet sorting and ease of use personally, isn't a priority I would think players should focus on.

How often do you lose out on 9 gold currency because you can't convert 100 silver tokens to 1 gold.
And you only have 888 silver, so you can't do the 1,000 silver to 10 gold exchange?

How often do you lose out on some rewards issued by jungle gems because the rewards you get (like let's say dice event)
BY the time you use dice, you lose some because of the animations of that event.

Or tons of other things like IDFK, HOW ABOUT.....
journey to glory unclaimed missions rewards are lost?
Or daily tasks missions unclaimed are lost?
Or how unclaimed lap rewards from dice event are lost?
Or how about the other 1,000 issues that make playing certain things a nightmare. 🤷

solemn kraken
digital glacier
# worldly sable Is it going to run away 😭

Locate a pet = domesticated > send on patrols > pet searches the WILD and becomes more wild > eventually, pet is wild and not domesticated at all > unable to use the pet until you domesticate it again.

I mean, the rules are fairly clear on that. 🤷

#

You dont lose the pet in the aspect you dismissed it.
0 lost out of 132 🤷 so people just haven't read description / rules for event.

#

Remember, this is sos,
Player > oh piece of candy something new and shiny

plays event
complains about a problem
other discord user provides rules that explains why they have that problem
me 😂 at how reading is hard to do before you play the event 🤦

solemn kraken
#

yes, you are smart, everyone else is dumb

inland geyser
#

Hi all I bought pet crates and pets not appearing in bp any of you have the same problem?

coarse verge
vale yoke
#

I had a good laugh reading through all that after reset like "what would PeTA say?" 🤣😅

solemn kraken
#

does it tell you what items they will leave behind?

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a chewed up slipper?

worldly sable
coarse verge
desert hearth
#

Wildness is added for participating in this patrol squad, when you add the animal at the mission at the bottom it’s shown how much wildness added for the run, for me it was 10 wildness per pet per run

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So if you just send 1 low level animal

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You can avoid losing the animals you are actually using

coarse verge
bronze ore
#

Reforge Essence Exchange Cost Confusion

  • We apologize for the confusion regarding the Reforge Essence exchange cost. We offered a time-limited discount, allowing you to exchange 100 Gold Bounty Coin for a Reforge Essence, but we forgot to add the "Discount" tag."
  • Without the discount, the regular cost is 1600 Gold Bounty Coin for 5 Reforge Essence.
  • We will make sure discounted items are clearly marked in the store moving forward to avoid confusion.

Haha are they believing themselves when they writ this kind a rubbish?

desert hearth
coarse verge
desert hearth
#

Yea the descriptions are very confusing regularly peepothink

solemn kraken
#

SOSSPS is a dictionary definition of a 'noob': they know everything about a brand new game (or event in this case), including the bits not mentioned

desert hearth
#

He is right about the point that wildness is explained in the event.
The issue is an important info is missing there.

vale yoke
#

This just got interesting

coarse verge
#

He just assumed people didn’t read

solemn kraken
#

yes, wilderness is mentioned, but not that sending your pet out into it too many times will result in it not coming back, at least not until you actually enter the Event and start it

coarse verge
#

People did read , we just didn’t like what we read

digital glacier
desert hearth
#

That’s the point they are talking about

desert hearth
#

The missing info you find in the pet building

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The event description isn’t holding the full information

solemn kraken
digital glacier
vale yoke
#

Mufasa, the screenshot Dream posted implies that if you don't collar it, it leaves after 24h

digital glacier
#

It does say it "leaves you" it just don't say 24 hours 🤷 I mean, that's the big issue, 24 hours is left out?

vale yoke
#

So all the event descriptions together paint a very unclear picture and need clarification.

solemn kraken
#

also, it doesn't mention why they leave you

coarse verge
#

And it is mentioned in wildness tap

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It even says the pet says thanks

digital glacier
#

I mean, it does say the pet will leave you in the rules

desert hearth
#

AG_Kermit_Sip it’s a confusing wording leaving players in doubts, that’s why we spend our time here trying to clarify what is about to happen when the wildness reaches 100%.

coarse verge
solemn kraken
#

again, where does it mention why it leaves?

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'when they reach 100% Wildness' and 'leave' appear to be two separate situations

#

maybe they should replace the comma with an 'and'

coarse verge
#

The idea of buying a collar to keep a pet I bought is fantastic to say the least

#

Why the hell my pet leaves after I walk him / her?

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🤣

vale yoke
#

That description says they're removed from the patrol squad when they reach 100% wildness, leave, or are released.
The other description says pets leave 24h after achieving wildness and cannot be applied to squads.

Is the pet dismissed from the player completely thus needing replacement if they are not collared and tamed in that time?

The implication is yes, but the plain words are needed. The devs always give these weird descriptions in multiple places that sometimes contradict each other or muddy up the comprehension of the event.

desert hearth
solemn kraken
#

and we are supposed to guess that?

#

before or after it leaves?

desert hearth
#

Guess what?

coarse verge
vale yoke
#

That was my next point lol putting the clear description in the actual event

#

Lol

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Mind reader

solemn kraken
digital glacier
#

It's the same sentence, with comma

So basically. Sentence structure and definition of LEAVE is the issue. But

In a normal dictionary, what does leave mean?
🤷 So basically
24 hour notice is left out.

solemn kraken
#

okay, ah'm not meaning to sound like a jerk 😦

vale yoke
#

I think we've moved on, Mufasa

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Catch up

coarse verge
vale yoke
#

Awww he loves me

solemn kraken
desert hearth
# solemn kraken that we need to buy a collar

Well it is shown as item at the pet when you check the wildness and is in the shop, with the description that it can be used to reduce the wildness.
I just want to repeat that a good option to avoid losing your animals would be to use a blue animal limesip

solemn kraken
#

knowing it's a potential you will lose a pet might be nice to know before you send it out, so you can make an informed decision

desert hearth
#

I agree on this, but for this the rules are normally present, it is mentioned that the pet will be “unusable” when it reaches 100% wildness

digital glacier
#

Unlock pet = domesticated
~ patrol = let your pretty roam the wild
= gains wildness
= pet becomes wild
= less domesticated
= 100% wild = not domesticated
= you have 24 hrs to use a collar to tame your pet or it leaves you

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Would have been nice to know all these perks pets have and this feature months ago with the pet release, considering I've known some pets have been giving me 10% more friendship for months.

So they knew this. But let us dismiss pets for upgrades.
Kind of fkd up if you ask me.

solemn kraken
#

also, is there a way to prevent the Wild Pet from leaving before the 24 hours is up? or is it once the timer starts. that's it? no way back?

vale yoke
#

Okay let's try this then:

When the devs release an event, they need to put all of the information in the event description, including information about status effects, conditions (such as leaving), and item effects/uses.

What they don't need to do is put all of this in multiple different places, essentially (intentionally) making players hunt for it all. That has a negative effect on the player experience, and only creates further distrust in the company to develop, deploy, and manage events and features professionally and transparently.

Otherwise we're left to think this is what they do every other time; encourage players to make mistakes in order to encourage spending.

solemn kraken
#

so we can put the collar on after they reach 100%

desert hearth
solemn kraken
#

or is it only appliable after 100%

desert hearth
#

Maybe I misunderstand you but aren’t your two questions the same?

solemn kraken
#

ah'm an incomplete idiot (not even good enough to be a complete idiot 😛 ), so ah usually have to ask many times until ah understand (and then tend to forget even once ah do figure it out)

desert hearth
#

Right now game is telling me my pet is fine I don’t need to do anything, probably this message will change as soon as wildness is high up, in this case the collar will keep it from leaving, when exactly it can be applied I currently don’t know yet.

desert hearth
solemn kraken
vale yoke
#

No, I read it as you were asking the same question twice

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I knew what you meant, but the phrasing in your first statement places emphasis on after - which implies that you mean can it only be applied when the pet reaches 100% and not one percentile lower. The second basically clarifies the first.

solemn kraken
#

to be honest, ah don't even have pets (or the building), but it still gives me the ability to add non-existent pets and partake in the Event, so ah probably shouldn't even be here asking these questions

vale yoke
#

You also didn't state the "before" in your first question, and there wasn't any indication of implication

#

That said, it is a good question and also should be something covered in an informative event description.
Can pets be collared before they reach 100% wildness, or does it only become an available option once that wildness is achieved?

desert hearth
#

I will make sure to ask my co-mods if someone knows about this already, I didn’t bought the collar, so I can’t test it right now.
I agree the question is good and should definitely be answered pepenoted

vale yoke
#

Thanks Sunny Milkandmochahuglove

desert hearth
#

You’re welcome bearhug
Can I post your observation of the situation you posted above as a feedback on your behalf?

vale yoke
#

Yeah that's fine

solemn kraken
#

ah have learning difficulties, and have trouble articulating, so end up repeating the same question and come across as a belligerent idiot: not an excuse, an explanation

desert hearth
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No worries, that’s why I asked to make sure I didn’t misunderstood you ChickHeart2

weak ingot
#

Okay now who wants to bet the devs will change it to be worse in approximately 2.5 years?

vale yoke
#

Thats why I explained how it read and what was missing to make your meaning more clear. I don't think you're anything like that.
My brain sometimes does a similar thing, it's okay

vale yoke
#

I won't take that bet just on those grounds.

solemn kraken
#

you give them that long? what about 2.5 weeks! 😛

weak ingot
#

Look it’s a feature we all hate

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Soooo they’re just gonna ignore it

vale yoke
#

FunPlus: bringing the community together... Somehow.

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I mean hey, at least we can all agree on something, right?

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For now?

weak ingot
#

If we liked the feature and wanted it improved, then they would “improve” it in 2 weeks

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And by improve i mean gestures

solemn kraken
#

ah'm probably in the minority (of one), but ah don't believe they intentionally set out to screw the players (regardless of what some believe)

vale yoke
#

Until someone has opinions on minigames, pearls, sentinels, behemoths, aircrafts, duels, doomsday, Apex...

vale yoke
#

Lol they really do

weak ingot
#

You haven’t been paying attention

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Do you want exhibit 1 of like

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How many are they on? 54?

solemn kraken
#

there is a difference being screwing players, and intentionally screwing screwing them

weak ingot
#

Exhibit A:
improve fortress rewards!
Okay we heard you loud and clear, we will remove them form the game
Oh whoops, we can’t remove a loved feature cuz we don’t know how our code works.

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No they absolutely intentionally do

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Remember when they accidentally gave everyone a Christmas skin, so they went and reverted it from everyone’s hand…and proceeded to accidentally steal it from people who HAD earned it?

solemn kraken
#

... no?

#

but then again, ah tend to forget a lot of things 😦

weak ingot
#

Or when they “fixed” the aircraft missions to be like 20 times harder, then a bug came out that made it 2000 times easier, and then they patched the bug and tried to revert everyone’s progress and then gave up and just said f it you can have it

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And then proceeded to never bring that event back for Gen 3 aircraft, carrier or spacecraft

#

Ooooooor how about that MIGO exploration that everyone loved cuz it gave decent rewards and was fun to see the state progress?

solemn kraken
#

don't have any aircraft, closest is Eagley and that one spaceship march skin

weak ingot
#

Nope it got scrapped sometime like 2 years ago

#

Oh you poor sweet summer child no wonder why you don’t have a clue

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My advice

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Leave the game now

vale yoke
#

I don't mean in a super malicious way like rubbing their hands together and plotting to ruin lives, but this is a business and they are a very lucrative venture capital firm with a very specific way of doing things.
They know how players work and they employ countless people to do things like read market trends, do interviews, study analytics, do r&d... They understand gambling and gaming addiction, and every single thing in this game is geared toward those very things.

And even the mini games are based on some of this stuff. Look at how many mirror other popular games, some of the very games which they've surveyed us about. "In the last 6 months, what games have you played?" Many of those games feature idle content like ours now has.
For a reason.

But they're not the only ones doing this by any means. They're a symptom of a larger issue. So when we come at FP for this, we also need to be coming at IGG, Lilith, Blizzard, Bethesda, Epic, and the rest of them, because they're all developing, directing, and actively monetizing escapism.

weak ingot
#

It gets SO much worse

spark kindle
#

Why are you opening old wounds, I'm still trying to recover from lingering trauma 🥹

solemn kraken
#

have been here over four years, why would ah leave now?

weak ingot
#

Oh yeah and don’t forget the time when DD matchmaking was purely random, whales complained and they threw the tournament out the window, redid the seeds and rigged every match in favor of the whales

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DURING THE TOURNAMENT

vale yoke
#

Remember the Lambo competition how they changed the terms in the middle of it?

#

Pepperidge Farms remembers

weak ingot
#

I’m pretty sure there was a valentines style event that closed for some people but not others, allowing others to climb the leaderboard after the event had ended

vale yoke
#

At the end of the day, this is a company. They're not some small time indie developer who needs to make a splash and get noticed. They did that. This is business, this is a product, and this product needs to make money.
You're not players; your consumers and you're commodities.

weak ingot
#

They don’t care about a good gaming experience, they care about money

#

That’s how it’s been and always will be.

vale yoke
#

They don't have to actually care about any of us insofar as they need to keep us somewhat complacent because they realize we can just go somewhere else.
Oh but that's been solved too by the spoofs.

digital glacier
#

This funny.
"get more" high wild pets
Then it shows me I have 3 tiger certificates. But can't open any directly from here.
but certificate is for 1/400wildness not high wildness pet 😂

vale yoke
#

You named your pets their stats/bonuses 🤣

#

That's so much better than mine

#

My main has Rick and Morty names, one alt has pet food brands, and another has dobermen with names like Reginald and Winston, falcons like Hickory and Aspen, and cats like Septimus and Aurelius 🤣

weak ingot
#

Okay wow

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SOS only made 3 million$ last 30 days

digital glacier
#

I had stats bonus only for gold.
And i labeled the bonus friends with hearts a long time ago.

vale yoke
#

Yeah right??

#

When I said the other day they were hemorrhaging money, I wasn't kidding

weak ingot
#

No wonder why they’re pushing nonstop events and features

#

They’re desperate

#

Shame too cuz they just had to keep their playerbase happy and we would have gladly forked over money endlessly

digital glacier
#

Remember when there was 10% the amount of events and dumb crap and their revenue was 900% more 😂

digital glacier
#

When max was attainable by 10% of the game, now it's 0.00001% 😂

weak ingot
#

They literally made like 40 million a month off of P5

#

Now they’ve introduced so much spending and have hit….40 million a year

vale yoke
#

'member how we all were like "slow down or bad things are gonna happen to the game"? Over and over and over again?

weak ingot
#

Meanwhile other games made their games more F2P friendly, listened to their games

#

And oh look they’re making 120 million a month now and they started from 4 million

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It’s funny how player happiness = money spent

#

But SoS is 100% intent on making players upset

vale yoke
#

Keep us happy and we fork it over, that's capitalism baby!

#

And it does a really bad job of making people want to play other titles by them, just to note

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Because of this experience, or playing games which basically died before they hit the ground

weak ingot
#

Absolutely, people absolutely blacklist companies

vale yoke
#

Pattern recognition for the win if you saw it coming a mile away

#

Ah bless em, I'm hoping they'll learn from this, she says naively

weak ingot
#

And look i play this game because the gameplay is fun, when they get the events right, it’s hella fun for the entire time

vale yoke
#

Yes.

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Five years, still here

weak ingot
#

And i can make my fun a lot in RR and KoTH and occasionally nexus and AD

#

But like

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If they ever broke those events like they broke CC

#

I would uninstall the next day

#

With zero hesitation

vale yoke
#

I can find things to do and things to enjoy, but it's harder and harder to even want to look for them anymore when I have to sift through all the bloat and idle content.

weak ingot
#

Yeah i play this cuz it’s convenient on my phone not cuz it’s the best

#

But if they broke it, oh well, I’ll just play puzzle games or something on my phone

solemn kraken
cursive vessel
#

I won't play another funplus game, 1 is more than enough 😂

vale yoke
#

I play because I like the people I play with, and as I said, I can find things I enjoy. But too many things hide the chat so that reduces my socializing, and with all the random content they've been adding, my engagement is waning.

solemn kraken
#

what about plusfuns games?

vale yoke
cursive vessel
digital glacier
solemn kraken
#

a zombie-survival game? or a poorly-run game?

cursive vessel
#

Both 🤷‍♀️
Also replace zombies with pirates and other variations

digital glacier
#

Galaxy of games

bronze ore
#

But hey same guy who can count 999gem bundle (50items/500pearl is 4200%) and 1999 bundle (100items 1200 pearls is 3800%) difference can calculate also that 10 players using each 100k/year is much much more than 10 million players using $5-10/month. 🤷😂

blazing kayak
#

I hate to think of lag with 10m players in this game

#

🤣

bronze ore
wide wraith
#

at least with Temu you know your getting tat or knockoffs

bronze ore
#

Btw therw was sometime ago (before lighter) a competion/lottery/etc where you could win Lamborghini. What happened to that? Was there actually a winner?

soft gulch
wide wraith
#

yeah she took the money and no longer plays

bronze ore
#

Wise solution

wide wraith
#

on both counts lol

solemn kraken
#

was a it full-sized working Lambo?

wide wraith
#

yeah they drove it

soft gulch
#

How they won it?
Designed a coffee mug with AI in an event?

vale yoke
#

I'd post a link but, you know, server rules and such

wide wraith
#

a Lambo is about as family friendly as the feedback some, if not most, of us want to post

vale yoke
#

It's from 3y ago titled "Give away $264,000 to a lucky winner when a zombie attack happens"

They had an actor they paid to dress up like Sarge and deliver the Lambo, and then another they paid to dress up like a zombie.

But yeah, she took the money. Smart lady for several reasons.

#

They also had a tournament their first year I think it was, where they had a cash prize and everything. I mean, sure it took a long time for those prizes to get delivered, and there might have been a protest or some sort of hubbub related to that (and other issues at the time), but it happened.

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Might have been their second year. But either way, that was a whole thing.

#

We even have a theme song by an actual recording artist named Mod Sun

#

He made a music video and everything

soft gulch
#

Good.
They asked to dress like Sarge and not Travis the hobo.

vale yoke
#

Sarge was easier, just hit up an army depot and call it a day

#

Army Navy store, whatever is close by

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Salvo sometimes too

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Community thrift

soft gulch
#

Yeah..and he looks decent for G0 purple. Next cutie is Dylan.
Rest of the male heroes are hobos and Occultists.

vale yoke
#

Super easy costume to put together, and for realism, you can get some of that grey costume spray for hair and just kinda brush it in with a comb.
Roll sideways downhill a few times and there's your scuff and dirt.

vale yoke
#

And I'm not ashamed to admit it

soft gulch
#

Nico, as in Nikola?

vale yoke
#

No, as in Nico

soft gulch
#

🤔 Must be G13+ haven't seen him

vale yoke
#

I thought his names Nico, lemme go look again

soft gulch
#

🫠

vale yoke
#

Sorry, Luca

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Idk why I thought Nico

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But Luca

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That's my type

spark kindle
#

Is that the one armed toy maker?

vale yoke
#

Yup

#

Yes ma'am

#

Uhhuh

#

Mmhmm

spark kindle
#

Yes he's my type too

vale yoke
#

I'm saying!! Like... Phew!

#

I'd be done for in the settlement with him around, it's so sad.

spark kindle
#

Hahah relatable

vale yoke
#

And the backstory sells it

soft gulch
#

Noone like Kyle?
He looks like non-bald Johnny sins and wears Pizza Box as armor. 😂

spark kindle
vale yoke
#

I was like why you got ketchup and mustard, pizza boy??

soft gulch
spark kindle
#

No

vale yoke
#

I too have had the urge to make armor out of pizza boxes, but like... I was intoxicated at the time and there was talk of LARPing

#

His little voice over makes me like "sir. No. Go see Ken in the Mess Hall."

soft gulch
#

He even has a ketch up bottle taped on his gun.

Utter hoboness. We are sending such men to army these days.. tsk.

solemn kraken
soft gulch
#

Google remembers.

vale yoke
#

That whole Wallace saga was honestly sad, it got me in my feels for a minute. But then Becca kept popping up to tell me about my troops and enlistment, and I felt less bad that her dad was cloned multiple times against his will by Gigacorp.

#

Wait, was that her dad or just some dude, actually? The story has moved on so much I can't even remember whose dad Wallace was. I know her mom is Julie, which raises other questions, but...

#

We only fought like 8 clones of the guys, you'd think I'd remember.

solemn kraken
vale yoke
#

But it was five years ago. A lot has happened in five years. Yamazaki turned out to be worse than Gigacorp ever was. The man is still a menace!

#

Yamazaki alone makes me wonder if we're actually the bad guys

soft gulch
vale yoke
#

Final Hope sounds like a questionable name if you really think about it.

solemn kraken
#

he went with the Pizza-shorts, pepperoni

tardy night
soft gulch
solemn kraken
#

what better place to hide as the most wanted villain: behind the heroes seeking to stop you?

vale yoke
#

I mean for the whole conversation here. Not, uh... Not personally.. I mean.. well...

stable cosmos
#

Going back to the pets. If you really don't want to lose something, just ignore patrols completely. Your only option is this.

Note how many you can buy

spark kindle
#

Let's hope they listen to my feedback and hand these out to everyone

#

I doubt it but still had to try

solemn kraken
#

yes, hand out one... and it's temporary

blazing kayak
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yea or use bad pets which most people got rid of because they were just clutter.....

Now pay coin for collar so you can play event with pets you already paid for.... or they will be gone 😄

Not the way to make the customer happy.

cloud ridge
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They try to make us happy?

warped token
unreal lichen
warped token
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where the heck is the heros assigned? I checked Apex Arena, Survival royale, koth, imortal arena. would be nice to tell me where the heck this block is coming from

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cant they just freaking say "you assigned this hero in xyz page. Cannot be resonated now?"

unreal lichen
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Did you check which hero it is first? Sometimes I forget which hero I resonated to which.

warped token
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it doesnt say anything

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Vera & Nera i am trying to resonate and she's not resonated with anyone right now