#📋︱feedback-discussion
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If past performance had to have that high a weight as a factor, newest teams would never be higher than oldest f2p in a whale alliance. But carry on. Imma ignore the posts
Why can't you answer a simple question. It's a legit question.
Ok. How about this.
Should individual performance effect your rr score?
If you consider a new team has played less rr matches, thus having less potential for bad performance. Thus, having a higher score. You would be considering more factors that would make your statement seem wrong,
You can't answer this question without being proven your point you're trying to make to me with why a lesser stat player has a higher score.
You can't do it.
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It's simple. Answer a simple question.
Any of them.
Should individual performance be considered for rr score?
Should a max players P15 t12 troop be weighted the same as a f2p P15 t12 troop?
On behalf of this specific feedback they do give sentinels for circuit event its that people choose the hq skins over sentinel when they release them from event.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message
Time T : player X has A score.
Player Y has B score
A is 2x of B
Time T1 : player X has D score
Player Y has B score
D is 1/2 of B
Mufasa: look at why this is okay
I understand what you're asking. But answer a simple question. And you'll see it's not as simple. But you don't get it.
There were no matches and no manipulation between T and T1
Johnny is max with 500k score.
June is p5 f2p with 1,500,000 score
Something seems wrong.
But is it 🤷
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I'm gonna tell you what happened to those raid scores after your novels. And I guarantee everyone else will laugh. But keep going
New pet box are empty?
That's not your issue 🤷
Pet crate opens and makes token, in bag, That you have to find to open again 🤣
Check advanced I believe it is after you open crate
Oh ... That was too simple ...
Fill me in with this. I'll wait.
i guess i'll just give up. Would need a week to find anything in my inventory ...
I think it's the tab on the left called advanced. Or war
Or something. It's one of the ones that don't have a ton in it.
So you don't really know what happened and what followed after. You're just writing hypotheticals
Let's factor in potential forecasted future growth of players for mufasa's state based on hypotheticals like session time, hours spent on dc researching, how much they farm...it will all impact who they can beat 1 year from now. 🫡
Past performance matters in this game 
Lol
Who can beat who depends on collection/plane/Behemoth and heroes mostly. The rest is marginal.
Thank you. Mufasa has something to say about it though
I'm still waiting for whatever is supposed to make everyone laugh 🤷
It will have to wait. We need more hypotheticals.
For RR the real issue is that they take BP for match making and ... one player with 250K BP and paying vs a player with 250K BP but all F2P, the one paying will always beat the F2P with same BP.
If you don't fix the matchmaking, no need to fix score, that's a non sense.
I guess it'll have to wait then.
How do you fix matching if you can accurately quantify an individual in a team
If you don't base the matchmaking on BP but something else, or fix BP, it will already less "Yolo"
When I see someone P9 with less BP than me able to break into my P10 settlements and kill 2M troops with just a march of 250K there is something really broken 😄
And how do you quantify the Purple main node of Behemoth properly in comparison to the red node in comparison to stats 🤷
If you can't quntify properly the power you give to player ok let's put random numbers everywhere and all is fine. That's simply called balancing.
I'm not asking something perfect but here it's unbalanced on purpose. Everything you can get in the cash shop is under rated on purpose. Chief gear weight a ton of BP for nothing, Badges don't count for much. there are a few very easy fix that would improve things a lot. Personally I don't complain I keep myself at a very low BP and could beat anybody of the same BP as long as he doesn't buy everything in the cash shop.
Rr matching has been an issue since early on, it widened drastically with plasma release epically when t11 came out, it forever will be an issue.
Everyone wants scores and matching to be fixed, but nobody here has any real viable solution how to fix it.
The more that's registered and the more variation in registrants, the worse the matching is, and that's not even talking about the high seed low seed matching system they use for DD.
I've given my suggestion on it but it wasn't good enough apparently 🤷
Instead of people getting together and focusing on things that is 100000 times easier to fix, like how there's huge price variations amongst the exact same items in different shops, or some event currencies expiring and others don't, or how jg ends the same time most often as the event you get rewards for so you potentially lose some because they get recycled
But
tons of people tend to focus on something that's been an issue ever since plasma got released. Wouldn't be so much am issue if they fixed some bp values accordingly. Like how 3% infantry attack in normal research lab is (just a number here but it's substantially different) 4000 bp for example, but in the plasma lab the same 3% is 28,000 bp. Using bp would be less of an issue if they fixed all the bp values correctly.
But that still brings the issue with quantifying jolly glide state skill vs band conductor statue skill 🤷 their effectiveness works very different for 2 very different people.
Yes. It's old and outdated, They updated it once and basically the devs don't care to update for the years since old gen 7 was a thing.
Showdown is just a timeless classic like tons of other things in this game.
They added 4000 coin epic search maps. Then thought theyd done something wonderful. I think we lost the healing speedups for that particular change.
This is why when you do feedback about "make shop better" you need to be hyper specific. And hopefully it doesn't get garbled with other similar feedback that the mods conglomerate.
nobody has a viable solution
Kek
you still get the healing but its every other week normally
I can do a specific feedback with the picture above for feedback if you all like. I do agree with you. The store is extremely outdated
No. They'll just mess it up further.
Pinballs aren't recycled right?
no , pinballs don't get recycled
Ty
you are most welcome
Quick question, effortless works to reduce biobatteries for Ultra rare skills of behe1?
yes , effortless progress reduce biobatteries for Ultra rare skills of beh1
Thank you!
you are most welcome
It just doesn’t work for dino 😩
And they will never bring a discount for it either
Yep they won't ever get it for Dino. I am in the last tier for Dino and every node upgrade is 300 plus frags.
Couldn't have finished Monkey w/o effortless.
Not supresing me, I believe there will be effoetless for Dino only if the 3rd behemoth is out.
4th behemoth is out
They just call it companion
But we have yeti soon
companiona are not counted. LOL
But I do accept if we have yeti for the 3rd behemoth. 😆
Be careful what you wish for. They got like 12 behemoths in another game
I am not wishing, someone said they sent a survey
Literally there was a yeti and cockroach
Whatever happened to the bear behemoth
I want a unicorn
These
That bear looks like a hybrid of a gorilla and wolf . What's yamazaki been doin
We know they will do that and we can't stop them. So I would rater wish what I prefer.
You are so right mekki. All I have left is an empty wallet and a smoking head.
Why tf we got El in our bracket. Bugger is topping every leaderboard
I so wanted to get top30 in this citcuit
Well El is just one player 👀 There are still other 29 spots to get in top 30
Yeah there are 29 spots but because of him every other whale is making more points
Worse thing is it started on Monday, so now they have more ways to get points via incinerating splitters and plasma
Isn't this good that it cross-overs SvS so players can get points in both events?
But I get your point that it is more competitive this way
we can't stop them
Good to hear players like us being positive about how much the company cares
Yeah it is more competitive.
Thing is when it started on Thursday in last 2 SVS, whales already had made points off splinter and plasma on Monday and Tuesday. And made points from completion capsules on Tuesday and Wednesday....for SVS.
So they were kinda dried out on Thursday. Now we will have their full wrath. 😄
This is survey?
It was a poll in their community board
No it is not
They literally killed the bracket and El bracket
He is not to be blamed, he is looking for a competitive game and unfortunately the game gave him and everyone in new states no options but transfer
I can't blame him but I blame the game for giving him cross-gen transfer 😄
He should be kept where he was, in a cage
Having El in bracket is not good? or the overlapping events?
Surely regarding the vote for SR solo or Duo, if the vote is constantly for solo the Devs should realise that Duo isnt wanted and scrap it, not force it upon people
I think they should but if PTR is of any reference, if same mode runs for three sessions in a row, the other mode will be automatically selected
yeah that is wrong though, why does FunPlus think that players would suddenly change their minds to a version they dont like, maybe Nanami could comment on this
Having El of course.
And bugger went to a superstate. So now you gotta pray that they match to another superstate in SVS, otherwise it's just slaughter of the lambs.
Problem what we have is pooling of states in these events is so broad. You will have 15 whales eyeing top spots.
The bracket widening is to blame. There has to be some better ideas to mergers. This kills game for far many people and it saves for a few.
Having El in the bracket should have created competition but will rather create more dead states
People are now seeking mega states
No one likes to lose
I mean we will be added to 900 states once we skip gen , why cross generation transfer?
El escaped lack of competition to be further disappointed ( as per the podcast) by less competition
So imagine the disappointment of those who lose
So we have 5 events running at the same time😂😂😂😂… it’s time to start skipping events
Right now they’ve made it clear that it’s about milking whales cause this is crazy
most of the events are done in a few seconds, take the badly named doomsday journey after day one it is impossible to get more than just the sign in for a week
pinball can be ignored till the the last day and slots really is the same
its not like the pinball rewards are worth having anyway
as for operation festival , once level crazy is reached it can be forgotten about
mid-spenders are getting creamed
just yesterday, a guy in my state used 1600 pinballs cuz he saw selena and angie frags in the shop
it is very difficult to understand that there is not "one thing" that wiill make one powerful
Thing is people have to know what to spend on right now and even though everything counts, some things are useless. For example, the new hero Eleanor is a waste if you are not a whale but I see people buying her bundles and I’m like WTF… Lol
I never got the previous one “Lara” and I whoop people who have her. Know what to spend on. People just splurge when they bring out new things
at least she gets rid of a bloody turtle
Now they have put Rita’s bundle in the store and watch people buy her not realizing it’s more expensive. 499 for 10 frags when you can get 10 Gen frags for 299 and other things… it’s all about knowing the right stuff
Well… I still beat people who have her with my turtle. So it depends. Having her doesn’t just mean you’d win someone with a turtle.
its down to that counter style that the majority of players dont bother to use
or should i say dont know how to use
Yeah but also other factors really…I’ve seen people who have her maxed(level 4 and skills maxed) and has other reso heroes almost the same lose to someone who has none of his own reso heroes maxed on skills and these are turtles
unlike the old day of ingame streamers who would show actual accounts these streams now just concentrate on whales, most of whom have no idea, or use the ptr where they are given everything including diamonds
It just works - Namani probably
@feral sinew why do the Devs think, if people are voting against the Duo mode constantly, they will suddenly want to play it after 3 weeks, if its voted against for 3 weeks just delete the Duo mode as it with be obvious (even to the Devs) that no one likes it
oh wait is it because its a binary vote, they cant fix the result and lie, like with every other vote
Got eleanor through the temple game. No expectation of leveling, just nice to have a hero for the collection.
I wish i could get the last of the ray and rolex frags for him...
Yeah!
The most shameless thing I have seen is Gene Link skills.
They put purple in events to buy and that is triggering whales to buy multiple to turn them gold. Mid spender will be buying purple at least.
They are OP and decide the battles this Migo
Exactly
Eleanor will be upgraded to as many free frags as I can get just like Lara and she will be dumped. Too many resonated heroes for me to spend 4 times the money on one hero
Correct me if i am wrong
But every p2w event sos ever released is in game now at the same time?
Yeah
Or just ended
Future tycoon just ended
Do we have the crappy claw machine running?
hello everyone
how are you guys doing? If you need a feedback and suggestion report, please tag me. I'm around and I could help with one. 
Fleece less.
That's for FP 😁
They are assuming that F2P players will get free stuff from jungle/mining
Tycoon dices were available free for F2P from supply hub, red envelopes, cooking.
Now you get from Jungle + eggs
The numbers are defo more. If you count given in 30 levels of JG, or 60 levels of mining.
If you look at Circuit event.
Free chips for F2P were via tasks only. Now you get extra from JG.
So all in all....JG is the balancer, events are more frequent but F2P players are getting more than they did before.
Observation
Devs are making the game less fun
Consequence
People don't find it fun
Suggested solution
Not doing your development for you. Try actually listening to the community rather than trying to empty their bank accounts
Would you like to submit this feedback ? 
Not worried about f2p
I am getting dizzy atm
😂
Thats more what i mean
This is annoying for everyone
Even those that spawn in money. Its to much
Its useless. This is the game model atm. 6 or 5 years in. Will get worse
Sos is just a bonus
That’s true. I know we have a lot of events right now, but we also can get a free items to play all them. Or at least almost all. I personally don’t have enough time to play all, so I prioritize the ones that will give me more free stuff without spending or spending as little as possible 
I understand the frustration and I get it that not all feedbacks will be solved, but I also believe we don’t lose anything trying

What's higher, 1 progressing to 2 while competition progresses from 8 to 10
Or 1 to 3 while competition goes from 8 to 15
They know whales gonna exit after dd. Milking while they can. The next haul will be at anniversary or Collab if they do real bad 🤣
Ye heard already a bunch going
Idk why people even keep playing for DD
Its actually so dumb
they spend their whole year budget and then quit
Peak fomo's downer hits hard 🤣
Bs drug the dope hit when it's not delivered by losing lolol
I didn't realize there was also a thing called FOBO.
Fear of a better option
Like man, they get us twice, with the fobo and the fomo

Yolo

If you are 1 you shouldn't be competing with 8, in the first place.
You should be competing with a guy who is at 3.
I think SoS should allow whales to hire F2P mules like they did in classic RPG games.
Build a feature, where there is a giant piñata where Capital building is at. During this Piñata event everyone rallies it and small gift fragments shatter out across the states. Finders are keepers, but finders have the option to sell these for diamonds to bidding whales. Have gene skills, behe batteries, FS stuff out in this. F2P can make a living out of it.
I'm sure that won't be misused or anything

I mean, it's not like anyone has lived in an environment where a large alliance has attempted to control everything including the allocation of rewards or anything.
Not even because they needed them
Just because
Control
Power
Ego
Even if not living in toxic wonderland, smallest folks make the easiest targets and are often the first picks to hit for everyone
poke the bear, with tile hits(NATO - NATO) then FAFO.
Yuuup
Imma not delve into that further.
Exceptions don't make the norm. Competition is pushed on smalls. It's rolling downhill. A tile hit isn't killing any whale
Be svip 3 and you will tilehit half the state by the game's settings itself
I'm just giggling because sure, let's waste some troops on impotent tile hits just to be annoying. That surely won't have consequences at all
Something tells me an svip 5 autogather and tielhit doesn't get the same response
This is a game where people will freely target players for things that happened last year and say "it's a war game, git gud" like they weren't just holding on to a video game grudge. And they'll punish an entire alliance for it.
But sure, those tiles hits are super effective.
They might kill 300 whale troops. Even 30k wounded if it's their 6th March with no heroes
🤣how will they ever live
Lol and the repercussions, oh man... Lasting
I left a state that is like that 😅
"you hit my tile and even though it did more damage to you, dishonor on your cow, your family, your whole alliance" burns everything
My state isn't like that, thankfully. It was for a time but we fixed that.
It might purely be accidental as well. Cuz we know how distance and sending troops works in this game.
Right!
Don't bring logic into this, Chek. If you start talking about legitimate situations and common sense, it will anger someone somewhere lol
But, regardless, laughable to say smallest spenders choose to compete with bigs.
Quite the other way around. Mid spenders pick on the easiest targets. Most real whales will leave low folks alone. It's the 100k mid spend crowd thats throwing weight around.
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So while for 1 it's a dopamine hit, for the other it's a matter of survival against ...25% of the crowd.
I love the whales that are nice like that, or they help you get your min points and such and give you a good time. Those are some of my favorite people.
And whale alts. When it's a little alt of a larger player and they're just like "oh yeah, I don't have a bunch of stuff and this is for fun"
Had a great conversation yesterday with our Raid opponent after battle and they were an alt. So sweet and we had a lot of fun
The 1% of crowd > doesn't have to worry about anyone hitting them. Their worry is beating folks in buildings. Minimal risk, most reward. The risk is in loss of "investment" if they don't keep spending.
Mid spend - might be targeted by 1%. 1 player out of 100. Risk is in loss of whatever they have outside enlistment but they can survive the 2 hits to port away beforehand if online before risk exposure. That's maybe 15-19% of the crowd?
80% of the crowd - easy target for the entire 20% every time - 1 hit from around 10% will constantly leave them at permanent losses if it's happening anywhere outside controlled environments like svs.
Who's competing then really 
Its a p2w game
It would be not reasonable to give lower spenders or weaker players a different playground from the big
Cause then why spend? if i compete my own level anyway. People trying to get ahead by spending
They had azurtame heist of separate plasma levels in the dragon thing. It's a troll fest
As a lower level player, much of the time it feels like a meat grinder to do anything pvp. It becomes a case of whoever runs or shields the fastest, so the whale gets the next guy.
They used to have safe zones. Folks here dislike safe zones for some reason 🤣
We used to do svs with 1 hq in forest. Or 2. 🤣
Real risk of losing all troops
No bs 99% recovery.
My brain tried to jump track on the train of thought because this brought up something from yesterday with another Raid. It's a known fact I'm a little guy on purpose, but it's also an inside joke with a few people that my alt is the first one hit at every single possible moment in an event because it's a p9.
Within the first five minutes of raid, I'm always the first one burning. It's never someone of my level doing it, it's someone who is a p15. So competition? What competition? Most of the time I can't even play events because the supposed competition has decimated my ability to even earn min.
And I'd love to say "oh people can just reinforce me" they can, and they did, but then they have to move. It's unreasonable to expect my team to sit there and keep viable troops in my defense when they need to be out on the field doing things. It's also unreasonable to see high quality players intentionally punching down so they can feel like they did something, while calling it competition.
The expectation is that I spend money to build up, but I refuse to spend money on this game. So I get to deal with it, smile and say good game, and wait until the next time I'm whale food.
That's what this game is for lower tiered players. A series of platters on which to perch while we wait for someone who spends to come eat us, while patting themselves on the back for their optimal strategy.
And I'm not mad at the whales, either, because the game is specifically designed this way. It's like being mad at a cat for chasing a mouse.
The hilarious bit though is someone thinking smalls choose who to compete with 🤣🤣
I used to purposefully stay a low hq but I think i have a neon sign so I just upgraded as it made no difference and i still have said neon sign 😂
I'd still choose some teams with high level players on, because that experience is something that helps my team, but I definitely wouldn't be choosing the alliances we get matched with.
Wait just another year. 95% will have said neon sign
All the signs of hyperinflation are showing. Now it's just a matter of enough whales taking the cue and leaving. Then the floodgates open
Gross. True, but.... Ugh.
Ok, what's your solution? you have a solution?
Not bringing anything is not a solution....
There's plenty of easy solutions. This company itself implemented them before they veered off-course because of the demographic they start to cater more to.
Low ceiling of stat, high percentage of item completion via grinding, branch the item out in mutually exclusive counters, all those things lead to better competitive ability while still favoring p2w mechanics.
Heroes are an easy example -80% of their performance is achievable within a decent time frame via grinding and in game rewards.
15% can easily do red heroes. 1% are capable of blue frame triple heroes. All within the same time frame.
Contrast that with pet breeding or behemoth companions.
Or just contrast with new hero mechanics themselves. DNA and resonance skills.
Just need stay safe zone and be focussed all match. Or join a lower strenght alliance
DD for example
Day of today, i still do not understand what business people have outside safezone till tanks spawn
Some answered literally "because i want to port" Like dude
You doing it yourself then
I don't do safe zone, that's cowardice (for myself) and I'm given a team for a reason with my alt. Even so, I'm already in a lower level alliance with two of my accounts - my alliance - and we're still seeded like that.
I would not call it "Cowardice" If you burn the first 5minute while could avoid it. Is that really Being a coward?
You will be close to useless for the rest of the match. Cannot reinforce, neither hit tanks
Other teams can utilize safe zone all they want, but I can't in good conscience sit on the sidelines in an active battle experiencing minimal risk just to wait for some tanks. That's not the directive I was given, so I can't do it.
In my own alliance, we often don't have a choice but to fight, or stand by and lose. We prefer to lose on our own merit by trying our hardest.
you can reinforce from safezone.. Jump puddles from safezone.. Can do basiucally all
I get that, but that's not my directives. Additionally, because I know I'm going to be burned first, I send things out as quickly as possible so I still have troops. That doesn't mean it isn't annoying that a p15 looks right at me and goes "mmmm fresh meat".
A p10 coming at me? A p12? Fine. But a p15 with red reso and maxed behe? That's just proving a point
It also doesn't mean it isn't ridiculous that an alliance with players at my same level - my alliance - is up against alliances with teams of p14-15 just to encourage expense and calling it "competition"
When you're a smaller player, you shouldn't have to look at options like sidelining it to play events - you have the expectation you're playing against teams of similar levels.
This isn't true in sos
Please don't mistake my unwillingness for ignorance; I know how to stay safe in these instances, but it's against my nature and against the orders I'm given (for my alt) to do so.
My point is that the game is designed to force players of my level against higher tiered players under the guise of competition to encourage spending on the little guys and act as a balm for the bigger players that they are - indeed - strong. So strong they can burn lower than them in one hit
To all who blabbed after reset about sentinel yall dumb
That bug would have stayed if yall didnt made a feedback
In context with the conversation between Chek and Udham, this is the larger issue wherein the development shifted to create these environments, specifically to cater to those other players.
And I'm using Raid as an example. Additionally, it ties back to the previous conversation from over the weekend regarding how seeding and matching is handled overall
I'ma go take some Tylenol.
Then why have I bought my kid Operator skins?
Oh wait, just read that back.
It is and it isn't skill-based tbh because a buddy of mine streams and I've seen some crazy stuff from OP skins there. And word on the street is that the new skin for BO6 is entirely p2w whalebait.
But anyway, State of Survival things
Things about state of Survival
The game
What feedback was this, what sentinel ? 🥹
State of survival
Circuit event
What feedback?
I always miss good bugs
That was long ago
Now you look at it, its now frags
😂😂
Thats today
Omg
Shortly after reser
I got rank 1 thats why
If people didn't mention no feedback the bug could have ran its course
omg, what was this bug, i had no clue.
Well i go upvote feedback because now the bug is gone
who feedback'd it?
Made me happy
I maxed my sentinel this reset
If i could give 2 sentinel i would buy only can be recycled
It was feedback about wanting to be able to find sentinels, it wasn't about a bug 😅
That one came 1 hr after reset so it made devs look it up mostly
They do fix bugs sometimes, especially ones that are good ones😂
Devs ae blind unless they see people make feedback about it, gosh i wish that intern would have left the thing as it was
yeah that is what happened....they look for something else. and found it
Welp one intern is now being replaced
next time onwards, say the magical words "downvote army" I will bring Mahiru's entire alliance with me
I mentioned it after i saw it
People dont know that devs do give sentinel for circuit event that f2p can get from other events. Its that people need to sacrifice the hq skin for a sentinel
But people rather look good and not be smart and grab sentinel then complain oh we need more sentinel general frags. Like i dont mind pearl shop bringing back general sentinel frags but dont say devs never give anyone a chance to get the full sentinel
I usually get all the sentinels from the event first the Red Gems which give Behe materials worth 500 crates and 100 Pearls x 5 too difficult to ignore
500 Behe crates are worth 15000 diamonds = 150$
What lvl you had before is the question
I agree
Usually down the line the hq skins rolldown into pearl shop anyways
And the more you max specific things the more free pearls you have to buy special luxury items
you couldnt upgrade it before
but had exact 5 of them and pretty sure i recycled them as couldnt upgrade
thats not it.
Sentinels give 3/6% Leth and Health, most of the HQ skins start with 2.5/3.5% troop attack.
Collection points for both are same 16.
It should be no-brainer, totally!
Yeah but again people prefer looks
They dont think too far in the long run.
Damn that sucks if you recycled and didn't max it out
its maxed now cause the bug of reset
😂
It isn't a bug. It's a standard feature in fart+ games.
We have had instances where hq costing 25k to upgrade were 400 bucks at reset. Just a way to easily push competition.
People aren't spending? Drop a "bug" watch the fomo take over.
If it's too many who dip in, pull it back, cuz then they losing targeted money. If it's too little, they gave some a free taste and now every competitor wants it too.
Even you guys have had it before. Remember the behemoth "bug"
Everyone was up in arms for the cost of a long term update pushing upwards of 20k$ instead of the standard 3k$ of prior updates at the time. They gave a "bug" that let people have a purple gorilla. See its effectiveness, then slashed prices down to what it would have been. All easy marketing.
All to push fomo onto the top folks
"omg hahaha fp messed up and did this thing"
Haha no they didn't.
Like when joint ops allowed people for a certain time to basically crush the thing and then - whoops - it was "resolved".
Players were telling each other you could basically breeze through joint ops, and within - what was it, hours?? - it was "fixed". But hey, it served the purpose.
To us, these are bugs or unintentional exploits which favor players and cost the company money. While their in-house testing ain't great, these aren't accidents, especially when they result in higher spending and higher engagement.
It's a box, with a stick.
The cheese is plastic tho
Black Friday sales: original price: 100
Sale price 200 slashed down to 120. It's a deal of a lifetime, don't miss out!
If you could have heard the noise I just made
A cross between a laugh and a... Idk... A honk?
Like a "HAAAA-eeehhhnnnnhhh"
Someone sitting in the fart+ office going through every pack and every event reward, every day, and has the permits to immediately release fixes with the corrected pricing or value. 
And the bug just happens to find its way into the game between ptr and live release.
Like, I know the turnaround from ptr is fast, but they really are watching this stuff. We just don't see it
That's part of the model
Ye, pretty sure anyone given that bad a job wouldn't have the requisite authority to determine correct pricing by themselves 🤷🏽♂️🤣
Across regions 🫠🤣
SoS now feels like visiting Las Vegas and staying there forever even though you have your home and work in a diff place. All these nonsense events like Fountain of Dreams, Pinball Madness, Hidden Treasures, Lucky Slots, Pharoh's Fortune, etc are every week now. This plus there's always a major event going on plus all the 1000 mini games that comes twice a week. Just ridonculous amount of content in the game designed to get people to become annoyed with the game rather than keep the interest or engage players
I dont think you can escape this easily
they just smash it across your face
They are doing this low-entry gigs also a LOT
9 bundles, each available for a buck
someone up there in monetization team has absolutely no clue what they are doing.
they exactly know what they are doing
whole thing is made it to appear like a fire sale
Yup. Imagine the person who goes "heh heh they have these 9 bundles for 99 diamonds/ a buck a piece. Lul they so dumb, someone's getting fired"
And then buys them all
Talk about a lack of self-awareness.
Like, don't get it wrong, this title is positively hemorrhaging revenue monthly, but it's still making money, and that's one of the methods.
And while they continue to divert more and more staff from the title and settle into the same state of existence as their titles previous, there will always be a subset of players looking at those bundles going "haha devs so stoopid they made a mistake" and buying it.
believe you just described the whole game 😛
I have seen this game turning on its head.
There was a time all bundles started with 499, getting chief gear design was huge. I literally made spreadsheets and plans to acquire them via diff shops
There was a time when you get a 20 Behe crate + 200 pearls bundle for 499. And 999 was 30 crates + 300 pearls. Diminishing returns made players stop.
Now they give 40 crates and 500 pearls
Boom!
So when will they give some extra attention to old features like Horde, Trap. The rewards are obsolete again and they only focus on money grab games like Jungle Gem, Purrfect Jam, etc.
Hay Aerius! There is a report on the same thing you mentioned. You can find it here: #📋︱feedback-reporting message You can always upvote it😊
what is in the two beside the Crown?
Ita statues
The left one is the nutcracker set
The other one with the abyssal fish
And on big events you get plasma , vehicle parts on top too
Do they broke the pinball now? When I use 10 balls they almost all sink down directly and can't even reach the x2?
just bad luck
Badluck or just less power? Cause I'm pretty sure the balls have a lot less strength now.
Leave the screen before it finishes if you don't get your desired points. Just click on a new tab and you won't lose your pinballs, you can try again
Mine is doing the same, it's totally missing the x2 and falling straight down 😅
Sadly, I had like 3 or 4 balls in a row-get squat diddly- they all sank to the bottom with a resulting 0!!
Oddly enuf, it did do the spinning thing at the end for coins, As- I don't remember in the past the ability to get that if you got zero on the pinball? It seems like it was no chance if the result was zero with the ball shoot....
one had no problems, and now has over 1000 points, the other has less than 1000 points
no, ah've had the spin after the ball went straight down without getting a single point, not this time (yet) but definitely last time)
This isnt the place for memes, please refrain from posting them here. We have a dedicated place for that, thank you
someone posted a meme? was it at least a good one?
Does that mean Nanami is a meme which is why she's never here?
On a positive note, good to see notification for frenzy officer now in alliance chat
Thanks for your feedback 
I know that time flies but halloween already???
not all feedback has to be negative 🙂
looks like Maddie and Frank 😛
i see pinball is broken again, typical they add more junk and break other things
They've had skills for pet adventures for more than 3 months associated to the pets. It's taken then at least that long to get this event too come to us
Please someone tell them to stop adding new events, its sick to see 10 events up.....
This is a great suggestion. Yes, I know alot (including me)were taken back logging in around reset and to have multiple events pop up. I can create a feedback on your behalf if you like or if you want n t to create one in #📋︱feedback-reporting . Please let me know
save your effort, it will not be worthy to make that
Gotta be specific which events to remove. Else they remove pet adventure and SR, and keep hidden treasures 
Today they decided to turn everything on they have.
You name it they have it
What you cannot name it, even that they have it
I just want events that can only be "played" via money placed in the bundles and top ups menu rather than the events menu. They can keep them if they want, but if they're unplayable except with money then they're just bundles with a fancy UI
It's not enough FP, start more events.
unfortunately the rules of this discord mean that i cant give feedback on all the events that started at reset
Take a pillow and scream in it.
I just did, it was an emancipating experience. True story. 🍻
its time someone from FunPlus got off their butt and explained why all these 💩 events have been added at the same time?#oh wait its fake award time thats why
which award are they going from, "Least amount of Communication" or "Worst game in History" or "biggest ripoff of its players" or something else???
Yeah… not even going to bother for this stage.
Balls find it hard to even get a push up
so many events, do the Devs think everyone is still in lockdown?, the events are not even that good, the dumb things with the pets, should die in a fire along with whoever designed that and authorised them to go into the game
i remember the Devs saying their would be MORE communication, that was a lie their has been LESS!!! And with the so called vote on Survival Royale, the Devs have shown their contempt for the players
That better increment at a rate of 1 every 3 years. If i wanted a tamagotchi I'd buy one.
And these things cost for some people. Does fp really think people wanna spend $500 on something then run a subscription with limited items to keep it?
99% wont read that they will lose their pets and thats whay they are hoping
@feral sinew want to explain the companies thinking and if you dont know get someone here who can explain this total Cluster F that the game is becoming
whoever is advising the Devs/Management should be fired as all they want to do is Kill the game, or is that the plan????
even the <@&628563208164081690> are taking the inactivity of the CM s an example as how to ignore players now, maybe its time that if they are not active on discord as per the duties they agreed to, they lose the packs they are sent
Good morning lord, how can i help you ? 
not unless you can tell me why the game thinks everyone is still in lockdown, and why the CM still ignores the community
Which idiot thought that was a good idea
@feral sinew be useful for once and address these dumb issues
someone who has NEVER played a game in their lives
and WHY is there still a FUNPLUS group who dont even play SOS, the Admin of this group is slipping, maybe the discord needs a total overhaul
Good morning everyone!
Call her with ❤️ and 🫡
She will come running
@feral sinew are you here, we gotta talk.....
will we get the usual line thats its what the players want, its not want players want, well maybe the top 0.1% who will buy anything want it, but as the vote in 857 showed we there dont want Survival Royale Duo, but the Devs will ignore the will of the players and bring it back after 3 weeks, that isnt listening to the players
For the Survival royal event they have put a vote in game so if they the solo version gets the most votes then that will be on next time as well
But personally i like the duo as well, stronger players can help smaller player get more rewards 
but if the majority hate it, then is shouldnt come back ever
and whats the story with the pets and that junk introduced at reset
Well this is why there is a vote in game itself, if the majority votes for solo play then next time over will be solo play again
see tihs is were the Community manager or someone employed by FunPlus should be online and answering
but they wont as just like the Devs they have contempt for the players
I like the Duo Survival Royal. I play it always on voice with a friend... I do wish the rewards were better though.
i have not have the chance to look at the pet adventure, but from the looks of it, it will provide free pet upgrade materials for F2P players, which is never a bad thing
until you get to 100% then you will lose your pets
Wow. 1 item in the shop to reduce wildness
its a scam
Hope thats a reduction of 400 for any pet you use it on. Haven't figured out how you gain wildness yet though. If its only by sending pets on patrol i won't be doing that
you mean this right ?
And its a bit broken. I have reached a boss i potentially can't beat. I do 0 damage to it. At all. Not even a number showing up saying 0. Just, nothing
i think they mean that you can't use pets in the event when they reach 100% wilderness and not that you will acually lose the pet all together
released is a set thing with the pets
I was reading this on the other chat channel, you don't lose it lose it. It means it disappears from the event and you can't use it any more. Not that you lose it for real
then it should be worded properly
So this image is incorrect? Or poorly written?
It's sos, when is anything ever written properly 😂
just scrap the event
How much do i want to trust anything that they won't do that?
As written you lose the pet. No guarantee thats incorrect until proven otherwise
its like the breeding, totally worthless to all but the highest spenders
experience has shown us that we cant trust anything the Devs say or do, so it needs to be proven otherwise ,
Is there a feedback already about the wildness issue?
feedback and the popularity contest is useless, the Devs do what they want anyway
Thanks for your input but that's wasn't what I asked
so i doub it
There isn't one at the moment dane
Thank you!
It needs to be worded absolutely correctly. What it says may not be what it does. But thats super unclear.
In the meantime, the folks here that are complaining about wildness problem, please dm me your concerns so I'll include those as well
and the Devs will get to see it pop up in about 2 weeks by that time players could have lost pets they paid for using reall money
no one knows but as its written yes
holyshiz.
after all you can release pets as most will know
and it says the pets will be released
yes, we can release pets but they should tell this when you are sending them out
You send pets out on patrols. Every patrol is +10 wilderness per pet
currently no one knows exactly
We need Vega to speak again so she can make a funny jab and run away from a high paying customer whilst not giving a 💩
After 10 trips if your pet doesn't have a collar used on them, they may bid adieu in 24 hours.
Vega's 1 day spend in the game > more than monthly sal of any FP employee
No clue, but based on text you lose them, so rather not chance it. Imagine playing it casual and losing the pet you've spent £££ for...
And that's still not even for the CM to even bother
Anyone else having a problem where you open random pet crates and it says you get a new pet but never receive it and therefore don’t get credit for the weekly task of obtaining a new pet? Or just me?
It's in your bag
I have nothing in my bag. I’ve looked everywhere
yeah! like you send out your march for gathering and your heroes or troops get eaten by a croc in the bushes.
Go to your bag and open that pet token after releasing from crate. Will be close to the pet bone etc
There should be a pic here somewhere of what it looks like
I will keep looking. If I can’t find it I’ll try a ticket. I screenshot everything so hopefully that helps me.
Thanks
10 trips? Does the wildness gained increment? Wildness as listed on the pet goes up to 400
heyaah ! when you open a box the pet will be in the backpack, and you can ' open ' i again 
I'm just not gonna bother sending out the patrols i guess. Although i could just waste blue pets on it
🤷🏽♂️ says 10/pet on patrols
Per patrol
They releasing a pet in 40 days at 100%/400 wildness?
Please upvote: #📋︱feedback-reporting message
Thank you dane 
400/400 would be 100% yeah? Just weird values
Perhaps later patrols do more wildness
We started getting these in SOTF this MIGo, but I have finished Monkey and these cannot be used in Ultra skills.
Cant be recycled to MK3 batteries either. tf we should we do with these.
Let's not play with it and we'll do the best thing ever!!😬😬
SOS is getting more and more nauseating🤢🤢
Unfortunately true
woah 300 upvotes!
I asked help from community ☺️
My team of animals, these are the weakest of all, if they get lost they would do me a favour!! Less mouths to feed! GO, YOU’RE FREE!!
its like a wolf guarding 4 sheeps lmao
The game found a way for pets to divorce us and get child support
biggest nightmare of JG:
no the biggest nightmare is so far in JG only 1 usable item and a few magnifiers. Rest all bio 🤣
I hope people complaining about JG didn't mean they decided to "improve the experience"
out of 33 drops, 30 bio 😄
I guess now don't really need to make sure I login every 6 hours solves that problem 🤣
Their instructions are always quite long and somehow usually mostly totally unhelpful at explaining properly how things work.
But....
this implies the pets at 100% wilderness still exist in your inventory. But yeah, who knows, use the bad pets first 😄
that implies you will lose them altogether
Yeah
That would be terrible if they designed it like this 😂
and still no comment from the CM
i wouldnt put it past them though
Let us think, do we have any reason to doubt the devs to be fair to people and their money 🤔
When you could kiss your red cat goodbye, thanks for the few items for your care red cat
Is like that buying a car but then you have to pay everyday so the car will not go back to garage byitself 🤣
Sshhh. That already happens today with cars 😭
If you buy a Tesla, for sure.
I have money for a Twingo or 2 bundles 🤣
I put blue pets in patrol, figured if they disappear it's no great loss 😂
What about after few times event been online, when you need to start sending purples because all the blue ones have already contributed, and left some skintokens/tomatoes?.. 😂
Can send just one blue. Whether it affects anything I'll see
Sounds like legit sos devs if you can send only one pet instead of all three and get same rewards. 
My balls are all floppy and aren’t pin balling as normal, pls fix
I know, I am a poet 🙂↕️
i noticed that this morning as well, all since this other junk was added
Needs little blue pills, I shoot my load of balls and they all fail to perform
the devs will probably add it,
My pinball was bad yesterday too, it's like they're too heavy and just drop straight down 😂
Mine has been opposite today- yesterday, I couldn't get a point one ,they all went straight down without zip for points
Today I have gotten a few to bounce about.
mine bounce but the score is a quarter of yesterday
shakespeare entered the chat be like:
I wonder when the developers will add a new building - obstetrics and gynecology for animals 🤔
that won't be family friendly, we're sticking to the "storks brought you" story here
Gynecology on the Statue Island with svip2 unlocked. easy peazy
🤦
this whole pet feature would have been awesome if it were hero specific, like the minion of a warlock. but no, they had to be greedy, make every hero assignable and forcing people to accumulate multiple pets
don't give ideas
We passed that
Then it is necessary to add one more building, in addition to obstetrics and gynecology, it is necessary to add an institute for training on a gynecologist
you are right, innocence was lost when we all saw the nipples of the surfer girl
Now , I don’t want to pay child support so I am not breeding pets or taking the family for a walk
I am keeping them hostage
I already have a kid and a cat, I can't take care of another baby
On the contrary, we need the developers to introduce these buildings and professions faster, people will come up to speed faster and finally close this abnormal project.
or they could just close the pets totally and admit it was a terrible idea
Do you think that developers will sit here and read our comments? 😏
Yamazaki does
the Devs wont but their spies in the FP group might
Yamazaki should be shot, drawn and quartered
He needs to be sent to the animal gynaecology department to deliver the baby.
Probably such events as gynecology, animal crossing, buy Viagra and so on, indicate that the project is on the verge of closing, most likely, people are already leaving en masse and will continue to leave
From this madness
they seem to read the feedback when they can use it to decrease rewards 😄
or make more money
The rules of natural reproduction don't apply here.
There need not be male and female tigers, they just need to be Orange. Only royalty is allowed to inbred.
They have one?
I don't know that's why am asking
Think they just throw packs in shop in all possible combinations
Everyones' balls were floppy this morning, their mojo was lost seeing 20 other events competing for attention.
the FunPlus people do nothing in here, you would need to message CS
Oh thank you
I think your best bet would be to reach out to their sales/marketing executives on linkedin
not that they will help you much
I doubt you can do that through game
they dont reply to you either like the rest of FP they ignore you as well
you can speak all things sos in this server, if you want to speak with Customer support, you can do so in game or email FunPlus.
specifically this channel is for sos related topicshttps://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/925534219780907058
and even if you do email they are likely to ignore you
They don't always ignore, it may seemingly be so- but, not entirely
I have known many to get responses from FP, took at least 2 weeks, give or take, though
i am still waiting for replies from over a year ago, gave up though
its like trying to talk to a CM in here, little or no chance
I can't argue that-
I would def email them again, as yours has long since been buried or deleted, I would imagine
The best way to get an email read is the subject line < true story
I think I know the answer,.....but do you want me to jot down a feedback to the rarity of a CM in this server??
i set up a view/read report so i knew it was delievered and it wasnt even read
sure why not
it wasn't even read!!? that's disconcerting!
a few years ago they promised better communication, since then it has got worse
would you care to add some suggestions for better communication? for the report
like in a perfect world- or even a half one?
more CMs in discord regular chats with the Devs as they used to do
the time they are most needed in when a new event starts or after an update, thats when the game normally messes up
okay, Shadow- it's done, let me know if you want changes, so we can do that quickly, before the hunters read it
perfect thanks
your welcome- happy to help-
Hopefully it will get some attention to it- I'm not above posting it every week until such time that it is noticed
sounds good to me
well I'm off to tackle the pet adventures- already spent so much time on it, seems like!!

The pinball is like weight a few hundreds kg or some kind of gravity added, I can't even manage to reach the X2 item after so many tries.
A member of my alliance sent me a screenshot of my HQ and I absolutely loved the graphics she is using! The screenshot she sent me is the top one and the graphics in my game are the bottom ones. How can I make the graphics look like the top ones for my game? I am already using the new graphic mode and even tried switching to the old ones but it's still not like the top one.
Sorry for sending this here but I don't know where else I can send picture examples
3D graphics vs 2D. As far as I know not all players have that possibility.
Check it in Settings/graphics
Those are the only settings I can see in both PC and mobile versions. Does that mean that I am not one of the players who can use 3d graphics?
I'm afraid so 😞
Ah, such a shame...🥲 It looks so beautiful... I dont know why they dont give everyone that choice
I will try to get more info
Thank you!
Can I dm you if I get it?
Of course!
3D graphics are available if your game country is set to KR or JP.
I have been told this option is available in some states as well.
My game is in Spanish. If I don't remember wrong I even got a reward (a couple of years ago?) for going to 3D mode
it was a trial but as i remember the 3d mode wasnt that popular as it lagged too much
I see. I didnt know if they offered in other countries as well.
@spark kindle did 1 patrol with this pet and already got 11 points out of 400 for wildness
can we get these "thank you" mess disabled, it's easy to miss important messages because of these 🙁
You get "likes" with those
Yes? 
don't care about those either, i'm not on a social app, i play a game
Just wanted to point out the wildness tab and how many for just 1 patrol
Maybe one day we will get chocolates and flowers, who knows?
Ah yes thank you, it's ridiculous really
What i would expect is that if your friendship lvl is max or high why would they then turn wild?
Do devs not own pets
Apparently not
You should stop looking for logic behind these things because there is none
Let me see if anyone has already written a feedback
Just need devs to stop adding ridiculous rules
I'd be glad if they just stopped dumping new features right and left
Yeah, I agree! We could simply send a like to them, no need for a message on top of that. I already do this so I don't spam them with messages, I search for the players who helped me to like their profile instead of using the deployment like feature, but this process could be simplified a lot if the message was removed.
how do you have a timer on your helicopter?
oh, and the HQ in the top looks great, the rest looks like a bad cartoon: like the difference between Lego and Duplo
It's just the timer for the Final Hope Transmitions. I though everyone could see it
yeah, ah don't have the timer visible, and when they have the Plasma Event ah can't claim the Transmissions because they simply don't show up
the timer for the FHT and the Chief Points (the 80 points that hang around for 8 hours) are something ah would like to see, don't care about the Resource Plots
the timers? not in the old graphics, and during the Plasma Event (or whatever it is) the icon for the Plasma doesn't go away from Intelicopter
and sometimes ah have to check the Intel to get the FHT to show to claim, even after the time has expired

I just checked for myself, in the new graphics when I have intel present I can’t see as well, what I normally do is to check this side bar menu as you can directly claim the FHT there (I’m lazy I like to save some taps)
maybe because ah don't do the Intels anymore?
Yes I think that might be the reason, as long as this plasma generator picture is showing the timer and FHT is “hidden”
yeah, ah usually click the side menu for the Intel, not the Intelicopter itself, to get the FHT to show
Yea I do the same, I think that’s much faster
I was just checking if you might face a bug
yeah, but the timer doesn't show up ever
That’s weird though
But you said intel is always present right
If I remember right it’s only shown when intel was completed
I can check it quick
some Icon on the Intelicopter is always up, but the folder for the FHT does show up when it's due
Hi, Deadshot. You can find the option to upvote this feedback here #📋︱feedback-reporting message
can you make it so they understand it's only about the HQ skin, not the ugly looking Duplo trees that come with the new graphics?
and the big moon effect is one reason mah HQ is staying in the bottom left corner 😛
might move it to the top left when ah completely open up mah HQ
I will check for myself next time when it’s due if it is showing up or not, if you want I can create a feedback in the meantime regarding the issue that the plasma leakage will hide the transmission whenever the event is around. 
I forgot to reply on your message 
I was referring to this, I need more coffee I think
much thankings to you 🙂
I will write a feedback quick and will share it for you in the feedback channel then 
ah will look later to see what the icons are on both buildings
Feel free to tag me then, when I’m around I will see if I can help you further. 
For now you can upvote your feedback here: #📋︱feedback-reporting message
Is survival royale broken??
can you also add that not everyone can see the timer for the FHT? just when it's ready
same with the 80 Chief Points
maybe wait until ah can check what Icon is active
Hey Azayji, can you explain how is it broken? Yesterday it was working but I haven't played today. 
My March died and it kept me in the game saying waiting for my partner to revive me
This would be a new feedback, I can set it up later for you 
okay, tabbie should be charged enough by now, will go get it and check
I suggest writing it in #🐞︱bugs-discussion first to see if anyone else experienced something today as well
okay, the other timer that doesn't show up is for the Final Hope Supplies (just the timer for how long it will stay around, not for when it will be back)
the crap that dominates is for the Daily Drop, forcing people to literally pay for it to go away
I do not have a symbol asking me to pay for the daily drop 
oo, never mind, clicking it made it go away (for now at least)
Regarding this, I can write a feedback about having a reliable timer that is telling when final hope supplies can be claimed the next time additional to the timer showing when it’s running out, would this describe it well enough for you?
now there is nothing on the Events Billboard
yes, a timer giving a count down to when the Supplies will be available would be nice
I will set a feedback up for you 
like you have for when training or upgrading
So a timer for a countdown to the next time it appears,
Which is opposite for the past 5 years of timer for when it disappears?
Yall sure want to confuse old timers with that one 🙄
Final hope is every 8 hours
For the Stam anyhow.
i agree with mufasa.. why change something that is working fine when there are thousands of other things that are annoying..
As for the other crap that always comes that's part of the reason we have that popup from the left.
Knowledge is power.
there shouldn't be a countdown for when it runs out anyway, it should be up until you claim it
it reminds you when it will disappear.
so you can claim it before it does
but it shouldn't disappear
🤦♂️
It gets replaced, so you can claim it and then another shows up at the next time slot
do your tomatoes rot on the vine if you don't collect them?
it takes 8 hours to replace it
Yeah I know that
but the training timer is telling you when the training is over, wouldn’t this be the same like a timer telling you when the reward claiming period is running out?
How about. In bounty blast., pinball, etc etc.
1,000 silver for 10 gold limit 10
10,000 silver for 100 gold limit 10
^ 10 silver for 1 gold limit 1,100 🤷😂
Why we need to have 4-8 different sections for conversion and all is 1000 for 10 and not 100 for 1 🤷
it's telling you when your Troops are ready to recruit, and they stay until you do
they don't have a countdown until they desert
The claim countdown timer is fine as it is. Some times i log in and i have like 2 mins to claim it, it's nice to know 😂
Maybe we can find a midway at this feedback and change the wording to “allow final hope supplies to stack up when they can’t be claimed within the given period of time” ?
how about auto-claim it instead..
not asking for them to stack, was just wanting to know how much time there was until the next lot arrives
nor to auto-claim
I can't see a troop timer if I don't request help.
I don't want to request help 🙄
yeah stop making suggestions to a feature that is working fine as it is
I haven't intentionally requested help for about 2 years 🙄
gotcha, stop making suggestions
They haven't been able to fix horde scheduling for 2 years 🤷
They haven't fixed trap scheduling for about 2 years because they added the event timer.
Please. We don't need them fkn with timers or clocks.
Long time players know, they have a massive issue with releasing correct display dates for events, especially like hq skins
Some stuff is good for feedback but some should be left alone. If it works, it's fine 😂
That's about my limit, if its working, have a little dance and leave it be 😂
I like this suggestion
forget it.. leave it as it be..
I sent my orange kitty into the wilderness 😥
and if it's not working, say nothing as well
How often 
1 time in game
Well, if it doesn't work, there's a bug and that's different 😅
Is it going to run away 😭
As a tip, avoid using your strongest for the patrol squad, just use a random low level pet, like a blue one
For the normal path the wildness won’t take effect
Rewards stay same
according to the Memorial Book, ah've been here over four years, but ah don't count as ah'm still low level
Example.
Pets have many skills now.
And assigning them is a lot different than tempest.
Extra popup for replacement.
Can't click on a hero icon for the hero associated with the pet to take you to that pet on that hero, you have to search for it. > TA is nice and easy.
^lots of improvements could be made
But pet sorting and ease of use personally, isn't a priority I would think players should focus on.
How often do you lose out on 9 gold currency because you can't convert 100 silver tokens to 1 gold.
And you only have 888 silver, so you can't do the 1,000 silver to 10 gold exchange?
How often do you lose out on some rewards issued by jungle gems because the rewards you get (like let's say dice event)
BY the time you use dice, you lose some because of the animations of that event.
Or tons of other things like IDFK, HOW ABOUT.....
journey to glory unclaimed missions rewards are lost?
Or daily tasks missions unclaimed are lost?
Or how unclaimed lap rewards from dice event are lost?
Or how about the other 1,000 issues that make playing certain things a nightmare. 🤷
apparently, there is a limit of how many times you can send them out and they will come back
Locate a pet = domesticated > send on patrols > pet searches the WILD and becomes more wild > eventually, pet is wild and not domesticated at all > unable to use the pet until you domesticate it again.
I mean, the rules are fairly clear on that. 🤷
You dont lose the pet in the aspect you dismissed it.
0 lost out of 132 🤷 so people just haven't read description / rules for event.
Remember, this is sos,
Player > oh piece of candy something new and shiny
plays event
complains about a problem
other discord user provides rules that explains why they have that problem
me 😂 at how reading is hard to do before you play the event 🤦
yes, you are smart, everyone else is dumb
Hi all I bought pet crates and pets not appearing in bp any of you have the same problem?
It says in the event description once you reach 100% wildness it leaves unless you buy a collar
I had a good laugh reading through all that after reset like "what would PeTA say?" 🤣😅
How dare you assume I read anything in game
We all can’t read
Wildness is added for participating in this patrol squad, when you add the animal at the mission at the bottom it’s shown how much wildness added for the run, for me it was 10 wildness per pet per run
So if you just send 1 low level animal
You can avoid losing the animals you are actually using
That is inside not in the description , event description should be clear not everywhere
Reforge Essence Exchange Cost Confusion
- We apologize for the confusion regarding the Reforge Essence exchange cost. We offered a time-limited discount, allowing you to exchange 100 Gold Bounty Coin for a Reforge Essence, but we forgot to add the "Discount" tag."
- Without the discount, the regular cost is 1600 Gold Bounty Coin for 5 Reforge Essence.
- We will make sure discounted items are clearly marked in the store moving forward to avoid confusion.
Haha are they believing themselves when they writ this kind a rubbish?
I didn’t made the description, all I can do is helping to get the full picture 
I know, and I am grateful
We are talking about them making everything hard to collect
Yea the descriptions are very confusing regularly 
point is, SOSSPS is claiming it is in the description, not the event itself
SOSSPS is a dictionary definition of a 'noob': they know everything about a brand new game (or event in this case), including the bits not mentioned
He is right about the point that wildness is explained in the event.
The issue is an important info is missing there.
He is not right
He just assumed people didn’t read
yes, wilderness is mentioned, but not that sending your pet out into it too many times will result in it not coming back, at least not until you actually enter the Event and start it
People did read , we just didn’t like what we read
How Dow i own a pet at 100% wildness if it's dismissed when it reaches 100% wildness?
That’s the point they are talking about
It is written inside
The missing info you find in the pet building
The event description isn’t holding the full information
where does it mention that the pet at 100% Wildness can't be assigned because they didn't come back?
Mufasa, the screenshot Dream posted implies that if you don't collar it, it leaves after 24h
It does say it "leaves you" it just don't say 24 hours 🤷 I mean, that's the big issue, 24 hours is left out?
So all the event descriptions together paint a very unclear picture and need clarification.
also, it doesn't mention why they leave you
It says it leaves after 24 hrs leaving gifts
And it is mentioned in wildness tap
It even says the pet says thanks
I mean, it does say the pet will leave you in the rules
it’s a confusing wording leaving players in doubts, that’s why we spend our time here trying to clarify what is about to happen when the wildness reaches 100%.
It says it leave patrol
again, where does it mention why it leaves?
'when they reach 100% Wildness' and 'leave' appear to be two separate situations
maybe they should replace the comma with an 'and'
F2P was joking, like all of us
The idea of buying a collar to keep a pet I bought is fantastic to say the least
Why the hell my pet leaves after I walk him / her?
🤣
That description says they're removed from the patrol squad when they reach 100% wildness, leave, or are released.
The other description says pets leave 24h after achieving wildness and cannot be applied to squads.
Is the pet dismissed from the player completely thus needing replacement if they are not collared and tamed in that time?
The implication is yes, but the plain words are needed. The devs always give these weird descriptions in multiple places that sometimes contradict each other or muddy up the comprehension of the event.
I’m pretty sure it’s written like this cause the second it has 100% wildness = can’t be used, it will stay for 24h after reaching this stage, then it will leave if no collar will be used.
Guess what?
We understand what they mean , but it is written in 3 places and not in event description
That was my next point lol putting the clear description in the actual event
Lol
Mind reader
that we need to buy a collar
It's the same sentence, with comma
So basically. Sentence structure and definition of LEAVE is the issue. But
In a normal dictionary, what does leave mean?
🤷 So basically
24 hour notice is left out.
okay, ah'm not meaning to sound like a jerk 😦
I need an update on the pony squad?
Awww he loves me
the point is, why does it leave, comma's generally indicate separate sentences or ideas
Well it is shown as item at the pet when you check the wildness and is in the shop, with the description that it can be used to reduce the wildness.
I just want to repeat that a good option to avoid losing your animals would be to use a blue animal 
knowing it's a potential you will lose a pet might be nice to know before you send it out, so you can make an informed decision
I agree on this, but for this the rules are normally present, it is mentioned that the pet will be “unusable” when it reaches 100% wildness
Unlock pet = domesticated
~ patrol = let your pretty roam the wild
= gains wildness
= pet becomes wild
= less domesticated
= 100% wild = not domesticated
= you have 24 hrs to use a collar to tame your pet or it leaves you
Would have been nice to know all these perks pets have and this feature months ago with the pet release, considering I've known some pets have been giving me 10% more friendship for months.
So they knew this. But let us dismiss pets for upgrades.
Kind of fkd up if you ask me.
yes, unusable, not gone
also, is there a way to prevent the Wild Pet from leaving before the 24 hours is up? or is it once the timer starts. that's it? no way back?
The collar
Okay let's try this then:
When the devs release an event, they need to put all of the information in the event description, including information about status effects, conditions (such as leaving), and item effects/uses.
What they don't need to do is put all of this in multiple different places, essentially (intentionally) making players hunt for it all. That has a negative effect on the player experience, and only creates further distrust in the company to develop, deploy, and manage events and features professionally and transparently.
Otherwise we're left to think this is what they do every other time; encourage players to make mistakes in order to encourage spending.
so we can put the collar on after they reach 100%
I know, as I said the wording isn’t chosen well, but in general no one wants his best pets unusable as well I would say. 
or is it only appliable after 100%
Maybe I misunderstand you but aren’t your two questions the same?
ah'm an incomplete idiot (not even good enough to be a complete idiot 😛 ), so ah usually have to ask many times until ah understand (and then tend to forget even once ah do figure it out)
Right now game is telling me my pet is fine I don’t need to do anything, probably this message will change as soon as wildness is high up, in this case the collar will keep it from leaving, when exactly it can be applied I currently don’t know yet.
This is a amazing summary
not quite: first one asks if we can do it before and after, second one asks if it is only after and not before
No, I read it as you were asking the same question twice
I knew what you meant, but the phrasing in your first statement places emphasis on after - which implies that you mean can it only be applied when the pet reaches 100% and not one percentile lower. The second basically clarifies the first.
to be honest, ah don't even have pets (or the building), but it still gives me the ability to add non-existent pets and partake in the Event, so ah probably shouldn't even be here asking these questions
You also didn't state the "before" in your first question, and there wasn't any indication of implication
That said, it is a good question and also should be something covered in an informative event description.
Can pets be collared before they reach 100% wildness, or does it only become an available option once that wildness is achieved?
I will make sure to ask my co-mods if someone knows about this already, I didn’t bought the collar, so I can’t test it right now.
I agree the question is good and should definitely be answered 
Thanks Sunny 
You’re welcome 
Can I post your observation of the situation you posted above as a feedback on your behalf?
Yeah that's fine
ah have learning difficulties, and have trouble articulating, so end up repeating the same question and come across as a belligerent idiot: not an excuse, an explanation
No worries, that’s why I asked to make sure I didn’t misunderstood you 

Okay now who wants to bet the devs will change it to be worse in approximately 2.5 years?
Thats why I explained how it read and what was missing to make your meaning more clear. I don't think you're anything like that.
My brain sometimes does a similar thing, it's okay
2.5 is generous
I won't take that bet just on those grounds.
you give them that long? what about 2.5 weeks! 😛
FunPlus: bringing the community together... Somehow.
I mean hey, at least we can all agree on something, right?
For now?
If we liked the feature and wanted it improved, then they would “improve” it in 2 weeks
And by improve i mean gestures
ah'm probably in the minority (of one), but ah don't believe they intentionally set out to screw the players (regardless of what some believe)
Until someone has opinions on minigames, pearls, sentinels, behemoths, aircrafts, duels, doomsday, Apex...
Oh they do lol
They do
Lol they really do
You haven’t been paying attention
Do you want exhibit 1 of like
How many are they on? 54?
there is a difference being screwing players, and intentionally screwing screwing them
Exhibit A:
improve fortress rewards!
Okay we heard you loud and clear, we will remove them form the game
Oh whoops, we can’t remove a loved feature cuz we don’t know how our code works.
No they absolutely intentionally do
Remember when they accidentally gave everyone a Christmas skin, so they went and reverted it from everyone’s hand…and proceeded to accidentally steal it from people who HAD earned it?
Or when they “fixed” the aircraft missions to be like 20 times harder, then a bug came out that made it 2000 times easier, and then they patched the bug and tried to revert everyone’s progress and then gave up and just said f it you can have it
And then proceeded to never bring that event back for Gen 3 aircraft, carrier or spacecraft
Ooooooor how about that MIGO exploration that everyone loved cuz it gave decent rewards and was fun to see the state progress?
don't have any aircraft, closest is Eagley and that one spaceship march skin
Nope it got scrapped sometime like 2 years ago
Oh you poor sweet summer child no wonder why you don’t have a clue
My advice
Leave the game now
I don't mean in a super malicious way like rubbing their hands together and plotting to ruin lives, but this is a business and they are a very lucrative venture capital firm with a very specific way of doing things.
They know how players work and they employ countless people to do things like read market trends, do interviews, study analytics, do r&d... They understand gambling and gaming addiction, and every single thing in this game is geared toward those very things.
And even the mini games are based on some of this stuff. Look at how many mirror other popular games, some of the very games which they've surveyed us about. "In the last 6 months, what games have you played?" Many of those games feature idle content like ours now has.
For a reason.
But they're not the only ones doing this by any means. They're a symptom of a larger issue. So when we come at FP for this, we also need to be coming at IGG, Lilith, Blizzard, Bethesda, Epic, and the rest of them, because they're all developing, directing, and actively monetizing escapism.
It gets SO much worse
Why are you opening old wounds, I'm still trying to recover from lingering trauma 🥹
have been here over four years, why would ah leave now?
Oh yeah and don’t forget the time when DD matchmaking was purely random, whales complained and they threw the tournament out the window, redid the seeds and rigged every match in favor of the whales
DURING THE TOURNAMENT
Remember the Lambo competition how they changed the terms in the middle of it?
Pepperidge Farms remembers
I’m pretty sure there was a valentines style event that closed for some people but not others, allowing others to climb the leaderboard after the event had ended
At the end of the day, this is a company. They're not some small time indie developer who needs to make a splash and get noticed. They did that. This is business, this is a product, and this product needs to make money.
You're not players; your consumers and you're commodities.
They don’t care about a good gaming experience, they care about money
That’s how it’s been and always will be.
They don't have to actually care about any of us insofar as they need to keep us somewhat complacent because they realize we can just go somewhere else.
Oh but that's been solved too by the spoofs.
This funny.
"get more" high wild pets
Then it shows me I have 3 tiger certificates. But can't open any directly from here.
but certificate is for 1/400wildness not high wildness pet 😂
You named your pets their stats/bonuses 🤣
That's so much better than mine
My main has Rick and Morty names, one alt has pet food brands, and another has dobermen with names like Reginald and Winston, falcons like Hickory and Aspen, and cats like Septimus and Aurelius 🤣
I had stats bonus only for gold.
And i labeled the bonus friends with hearts a long time ago.
No wonder why they’re pushing nonstop events and features
They’re desperate
Shame too cuz they just had to keep their playerbase happy and we would have gladly forked over money endlessly
Remember when there was 10% the amount of events and dumb crap and their revenue was 900% more 😂
Those were the days....
When max was attainable by 10% of the game, now it's 0.00001% 😂
They literally made like 40 million a month off of P5
Now they’ve introduced so much spending and have hit….40 million a year
'member how we all were like "slow down or bad things are gonna happen to the game"? Over and over and over again?

Meanwhile other games made their games more F2P friendly, listened to their games
And oh look they’re making 120 million a month now and they started from 4 million
It’s funny how player happiness = money spent
But SoS is 100% intent on making players upset
Keep us happy and we fork it over, that's capitalism baby!
And it does a really bad job of making people want to play other titles by them, just to note
Because of this experience, or playing games which basically died before they hit the ground
Absolutely, people absolutely blacklist companies
Pattern recognition for the win if you saw it coming a mile away
Ah bless em, I'm hoping they'll learn from this, she says naively
And look i play this game because the gameplay is fun, when they get the events right, it’s hella fun for the entire time
And i can make my fun a lot in RR and KoTH and occasionally nexus and AD
But like
If they ever broke those events like they broke CC
I would uninstall the next day
With zero hesitation
I can find things to do and things to enjoy, but it's harder and harder to even want to look for them anymore when I have to sift through all the bloat and idle content.
Yeah i play this cuz it’s convenient on my phone not cuz it’s the best
But if they broke it, oh well, I’ll just play puzzle games or something on my phone
people blacklist for absolutely stupid reasons, but this is not the place for it 🙂
I won't play another funplus game, 1 is more than enough 😂
I play because I like the people I play with, and as I said, I can find things I enjoy. But too many things hide the chat so that reduces my socializing, and with all the random content they've been adding, my engagement is waning.
what about plusfuns games?
Make sure you also look into who they own, as well. Sometimes a subsidiary releases a game and it all ties back.
Consumer freedom means consumer information.
Yeah, currently one game like this is enough though, regardless of who owns it 😅
Wish they'd link the crate for this thing like how one of the crates for behemoths are
a zombie-survival game? or a poorly-run game?
Both 🤷♀️
Also replace zombies with pirates and other variations
Galaxy of games
Yep, something these devs doesn't understand at all.
But hey same guy who can count 999gem bundle (50items/500pearl is 4200%) and 1999 bundle (100items 1200 pearls is 3800%) difference can calculate also that 10 players using each 100k/year is much much more than 10 million players using $5-10/month. 🤷😂
Well alliance with 50players, animated HQs/marches, statue effects, and trap can cause some serious studder alone... So this hypothetical 10m players could easily burn their TEMU servers. 😂
at least with Temu you know your getting tat or knockoffs
Btw therw was sometime ago (before lighter) a competion/lottery/etc where you could win Lamborghini. What happened to that? Was there actually a winner?
Vehicle crates are really risky, you could end up getting frags you don't want.
What worse is that a G1 frag crate allows you to take out max 5 frags at a time, so you have to be careful that you are picking the right frags
Crate linking will make it safe. Yes.
yeah she took the money and no longer plays
Wise solution
on both counts lol
was a it full-sized working Lambo?
yeah they drove it
How they won it?
Designed a coffee mug with AI in an event?
It was a legit Lambo, yes. There's a video of it on the SoS YouTube page and everything
I'd post a link but, you know, server rules and such
a Lambo is about as family friendly as the feedback some, if not most, of us want to post
It's from 3y ago titled "Give away $264,000 to a lucky winner when a zombie attack happens"
They had an actor they paid to dress up like Sarge and deliver the Lambo, and then another they paid to dress up like a zombie.
But yeah, she took the money. Smart lady for several reasons.
They also had a tournament their first year I think it was, where they had a cash prize and everything. I mean, sure it took a long time for those prizes to get delivered, and there might have been a protest or some sort of hubbub related to that (and other issues at the time), but it happened.
Might have been their second year. But either way, that was a whole thing.
We even have a theme song by an actual recording artist named Mod Sun
He made a music video and everything
Good.
They asked to dress like Sarge and not Travis the hobo.
Sarge was easier, just hit up an army depot and call it a day
Army Navy store, whatever is close by
Salvo sometimes too
Community thrift
Yeah..and he looks decent for G0 purple. Next cutie is Dylan.
Rest of the male heroes are hobos and Occultists.
Super easy costume to put together, and for realism, you can get some of that grey costume spray for hair and just kinda brush it in with a comb.
Roll sideways downhill a few times and there's your scuff and dirt.
Hey now, Nico is my type.
And I'm not ashamed to admit it
Nico, as in Nikola?
No, as in Nico
🤔 Must be G13+ haven't seen him
I thought his names Nico, lemme go look again
🫠
Is that the one armed toy maker?
Yes he's my type too
I'm saying!! Like... Phew!
I'd be done for in the settlement with him around, it's so sad.
Hahah relatable
And the backstory sells it
We wears a croc, on his gun. But yeah decent. Rugged, country fellow
Noone like Kyle?
He looks like non-bald Johnny sins and wears Pizza Box as armor. 😂

I was like why you got ketchup and mustard, pizza boy??
No
I too have had the urge to make armor out of pizza boxes, but like... I was intoxicated at the time and there was talk of LARPing
His little voice over makes me like "sir. No. Go see Ken in the Mess Hall."
He even has a ketch up bottle taped on his gun.
Utter hoboness. We are sending such men to army these days.. tsk.
it's not that difficult to dress like Sarge: white t-shirt, dog-tags, jeans, boots, done
Dog tags most important, he wears. Them on a beach too.
Google remembers.
That whole Wallace saga was honestly sad, it got me in my feels for a minute. But then Becca kept popping up to tell me about my troops and enlistment, and I felt less bad that her dad was cloned multiple times against his will by Gigacorp.
Wait, was that her dad or just some dude, actually? The story has moved on so much I can't even remember whose dad Wallace was. I know her mom is Julie, which raises other questions, but...
We only fought like 8 clones of the guys, you'd think I'd remember.
sure that's not a whistle?
But it was five years ago. A lot has happened in five years. Yamazaki turned out to be worse than Gigacorp ever was. The man is still a menace!
Yamazaki alone makes me wonder if we're actually the bad guys
Could....be a whistle.
That's his Baywatch avatar I guess. Should've put on red trunks.
Final Hope sounds like a questionable name if you really think about it.
he went with the Pizza-shorts, pepperoni
Someone had a good marketing expense write off that year
Possible. Yamazaki is doing everything other than finding the anti dote.
The didn't collab with Will Smith, that was a nice movie eh. What was the name.
what better place to hide as the most wanted villain: behind the heroes seeking to stop you?
That's my logic
I mean for the whole conversation here. Not, uh... Not personally.. I mean.. well...

Going back to the pets. If you really don't want to lose something, just ignore patrols completely. Your only option is this.
Note how many you can buy

Let's hope they listen to my feedback and hand these out to everyone
I doubt it but still had to try
yes, hand out one... and it's temporary
yea or use bad pets which most people got rid of because they were just clutter.....
Now pay coin for collar so you can play event with pets you already paid for.... or they will be gone 😄
Not the way to make the customer happy.
They try to make us happy?
I am a legend
Did you have a question about this?
where the heck is the heros assigned? I checked Apex Arena, Survival royale, koth, imortal arena. would be nice to tell me where the heck this block is coming from
cant they just freaking say "you assigned this hero in xyz page. Cannot be resonated now?"
Did you check which hero it is first? Sometimes I forget which hero I resonated to which.
