📋︱feedback-discussion

[stable cosmos]

And solicitation

[zealous dirge]

Hi beautiful people!

[spark kindle]

participation is voluntary, not mandatory

[tepid rivet]

Eyo that's my favourite sentence

[spark kindle]

Twinsies

[stable cosmos]

Good thing women could pre block people who wanted explicit pictures... oh wait, they couldn't

[vale yoke]

And while Nanami was correct that playing it is voluntary, that's to a very soft and very limited degree. When there's a festival event, gameplay is not as compulsory as the devs would like to promote, and they know it. So when they force players to do these events like that stupid rose thing, it's a slap in the face to say "oh well you don't have to do it".
Well no one really does, do they? But because the devs wouldn't listen and they brought that horrible event back a second time, it sent a loud message to the players. "We don't care"

[tepid rivet]

They care, they said to report any whatever we face. Afterwards

[spark kindle]

I still find it insulting for a cm to interact with the player base with that tone

[stable cosmos]

I'm going to bed its 1am. Night

[spark kindle]

Good night

[tepid rivet]

Goodnight Cyan

[vale yoke]

Night Cyan

[zealous dirge]

Is it Friday or Saturday for you, Cyan?

I'm a disaster with the time zones... Probably Saturday

[vale yoke]

I thought it was funny that Nanami pointed out playing the roses event was a voluntary choice. So is the rest of the game, yeah, and wouldn't it just be so interesting if the players took that view on everything?
Oh wait, our revenue has been steadily dropping, so I guess they have. Turns out when the devs just do what they want, fudge numbers, and shove minigames into any available place, players aren't big fans.
Weird.

[spark kindle]

Shocking isn't it

[vale yoke]

I'm so surprised.

No. Really

[tepid rivet]

Oh well anyhow, no one really cares about anything from devs side, and most discussions are shut down due to many don't care here either but at least I had the honour to join my rant therapy group for a short period of time today have a great day my partners in rant

[spark kindle]

You too Lexie

[tardy night]

Could always ask the CMs why their statue models have nipples

[vale yoke]

Love ya Lexie

[spark kindle]

Realistic game design 😌

[vale yoke]

Pink Ribbon reasons?

[tepid rivet]

Also, Liannin, if you happen to share some tea and biscuits with the devs today, ask them if they like over knee boots and if they would put those on goats too

[vale yoke]

I think we both know my goats deserve little hoof booties. Cute ones. Bedazzled ones.

[zealous dirge]

Please let's keep the chat going friendly

[vale yoke]

Goats are friendly

[spark kindle]

With heels of course

[vale yoke]

Goats in booties are cute and friendly

[tepid rivet]

What was unfriendly now lol

Smh

Baaaiii

[slate fossil]

[spark kindle]

Please elaborate what you consider unfriendly.

[vale yoke]

Was it the goat?

He's housebroken, I promise.

[slate fossil]

goats with bedazzled booties- sounds devine!!

[zealous dirge]

Hey Mirror! How are you?

[lost jungle]

hello

[vale yoke]

Ope, mod party. Dane, shall we?

[slate fossil]

I am very good, thanks- nd yourself??

[vale yoke]

[spark kindle]

If you're pulling the mod card to warn people, have the decency to explain yourself too.

[zealous dirge]

Preparing to go out with my friends

First time in months

[slate fossil]

[zealous dirge]

Thanks! 🤗

[full rampart]

LIANNINNNN N

WE HAVE A UNICORN

[coarse verge]

Fake unicorn

[full rampart]

[coarse verge]

No rainbow hair or candy 🍫

[full rampart]

It’s fake?!!

[coarse verge]

It is metal, it has no magic

They weaponized it

😫

[full rampart]

[zealous dirge]

It has no magical powers?

[coarse verge]

Other than making you broke

No

[zealous dirge]

I wanted it pink 🤔

Maybe we can ask for more colors

[coarse verge]

Next collaboration should be my little pony 💚

[full rampart]

We had a feedback about a unicorn, Liannin voted it with me, when i saw the unicorn i wanted to show it

[coarse verge]

It fits fruit ninja

[full rampart]

The my little pony my little pony song came in my head

[zealous dirge]

I asked for teletubbies

[full rampart]

That is scary

[slate fossil]

[coarse verge]

I want twilight sparkle

[full rampart]

Whats that

[slate fossil]

a pony, right?

[coarse verge]

A pony

[zealous dirge]

It's cute!

And almost pink

[vale yoke]

Tallie. It's not a goat.

It's a unicorn, yeah, so win for our Team Unicorn. But it's not a goat march skin. And for that, I shall pout

[coarse verge]

She has clothes

I call that a win

[full rampart]

We shall continue

[vale yoke]

You can have Twilight Sparkle. I want Pinky Pie, my fave

[coarse verge]

And she didn’t do an augmentation

[full rampart]

Not pink ones

[vale yoke]

You take that back.

[slate fossil]

I like Fluttershy

[vale yoke]

Pinky Pie isn't just pink. She's pink

[coarse verge]

Tallie could be starlight glimmer

[vale yoke]

Yoooo

Actually

I could totes see that. Awww gonna go watch MLP... I miss when my kids were little ...

[full rampart]

What color is that

LETS MAKE OUR LITTLE PONY TEAM!

[vale yoke]

Starlight Glimmer is like a light purple with darker purple hair (and a blue streak)

She's so pretty

[full rampart]

I want to have kids just to go to Disneyland with them

Ooooooo

[coarse verge]

We should remove it

[full rampart]

Yes can i be this

[coarse verge]

Server rules

[vale yoke]

It's not game relevant

Very true, Dream

[full rampart]

It’s a feedback about the new collab

[vale yoke]

Has nothing to do with SoS tbh

[full rampart]

And our dream pony team

[vale yoke]

We all know my dream pony is a goat named Tom lol

[coarse verge]

Pets and fruit ninja has nothing to do with SoS

So we can ask for ponies

[full rampart]

#Give liannin a goat

[vale yoke]

And a dev chat

coughs

[coarse verge]

So next collaboration should have a merge theme with ponies

🤣

[vale yoke]

"Friendship is Survival: SoS x MLP"

[digital nexus]

[coarse verge]

If chek said yes , we are doomed

[vale yoke]

Tbh I'm just happy it ain't more cats with like laser eyes and Gatling guns.

[tardy night]

I was just wondering how many would shed tears here about the loss of their precious war game if it ever happened

[slate fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290492222747316275/1342840351978815561/image.gif?ex=67bb1908&is=67b9c788&hm=81b5662dd834893452713158e75acd32af8a0fc009caeba864904923cc4c5a14&

[coarse verge]

We are playing war game?

[tardy night]

Folks were defending the new lord and lady hq skin saying it's not a valentine skin.

[slate fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290492222747316275/1342840801629180024/image.gif?ex=67bb1973&is=67b9c7f3&hm=82b5b5815dc2040bc4c68cd2ecfe906b151e39d112286dbccbb3fa9fe3c9b059&

[vale yoke]

Lol the meltdowns. I'd be like "okay guys, remember to merge your pony pets, and don't forget to brush their manes. We're doing the Final Hope Derby tomorrow, so your champion ponies should be well groomed for maximum cute points"

[vale yoke]

I love you.

[full rampart]

So i’m starlight glimmer, liannin is Pinky Pie and dream is Twilight Sparkle

[wide wraith]

it used to be a stratrgy game, then a war game, now its a god knows what game

[vale yoke]

And if you know about Pinky Pie, you know it's true lol

This was a war game?

[slate fossil]

hey......what about Mirror!!!

[full rampart]

[slate fossil]

I shall silently be Fluttershy

[full rampart]

You can choose

[vale yoke]

Yes! Fluttershy.

[full rampart]

Also hello Shadow, excuse my manners i got caught up into the little pony team

[vale yoke]

We're gonna win the FH Derby for sure!

We just need an Applejack.

... Hey Shadow?

[wide wraith]

hi, when i first saw the dumb unicorn, i thought of god, some will half be happy

[vale yoke]

Lol

I had that instant flashback to all the unicorn asks here tbh like "you... You did this ..."

[full rampart]

Shadow knew I’d be happy he knows me so good

[full rampart]

The mod team also said this is my fault

[vale yoke]

Hahahahaha

[full rampart]

Since i kept mentioning the unicorn

[vale yoke]

The unicorn has been mentioned here for years, it's not just you... But I mean, we can blame you if you want lol

[wide wraith]

so who do we blame for the silly mini games, especially the friut one

[full rampart]

This not me, i am really bad at the game

[coarse verge]

Nanami

We need a sticker for that

[vale yoke]

That one's on the devs, I think. Someone somewhere said "we have a lot of players who also do idle content in our surveys, and we need fast revenue streams to also push new stat metrics and make sure this gap stays gappy"

Cha-ching!

4639275 minigames

[full rampart]

You need to teach me how to make stickers i reallt want to make my little pony stickers for us

[drifting viper]

I want to learn too!

And the little emoji with the sign

[vale yoke]

And tbh, while this title still does generate revenue, I'm curious how much of it is from the actual content versus the idle games they push.
I doubt the numbers actually show they're successful, but they serve to keep people logging in to collect idles and buy packs, so it justifies reducing actual game content to slowly pull development away - because the game team needs to be upcycled to the next property anyway - in lieu of repetitive reskinned idle content.

They occasionally just have to bring out new stuff that keeps adding to battle mechanics, but with the reduction of battle environments, that's not too difficult.

And hey, with these new players from FPs supportless game copies with heroes like Bonnie and Robin, they still get hooked into thinking this is a war game for now, so it continues...

[full rampart]

[vale yoke]

We can be as mad as we want about this title becoming one big idle arcade with the occasional battle, but it's happening whether we want it to or not. It was always happening.

[thorn axle]

Howdy

[vale yoke]

[thorn axle]

Liannin, maybe next we get your goat skin you wanted 😂😂

[vale yoke]

four years

It's been four years

[wide wraith]

oh gods i hope not

[drifting viper]

Hi fear!

[vale yoke]

Like ... Idk what I want more tbh. My goat skin of four years or the dev chat of a year and a half

[thorn axle]

Tallie saw the unicorn and was like I need to tell liannin the feedback was listened 🤣🤣

Hey Katie

[vale yoke]

Dev chat, obvs

But then goats

[wide wraith]

how comes though in the Devs little world, everyone is a geneticist

[vale yoke]

Even the younger characters are basically tech geniuses

What was in that virus??

[wide wraith]

dont know but if it does that, can i have some

[vale yoke]

Right?

[thorn axle]

Me too sharing is caring

[vale yoke]

In this economy, I need every advantage I can get

[full rampart]

Liannin

[vale yoke]

Tallie

[full rampart]

[thorn axle]

Talkie 😂😂😂

[vale yoke]

Lol shh

Didn't see that

[full rampart]

See the names

[vale yoke]

AHHHH omg I love it ahhh

[full rampart]

SHADOW

[thorn axle]

I think shadow needs one too he loves the unicorn to the new hero

[wide wraith]

i didnt do it, cant prove anything

[full rampart]

Do you want to be one of the little ponies

[vale yoke]

Shadow was with me the whole time. I'm the alibi.

[wide wraith]

noooooooo

[full rampart]

I know deep down you want to

We shall make fear jealous she doesn’t get a pony

[vale yoke]

What about Rainbow Dash for Fear?

[wide wraith]

ummm not unless there is a proper pegicorn

jet black of course

[coarse verge]

I usually ask sima
You have a sticker 💘

[vale yoke]

There are alicorns in MLP canon (used interchangeably with pegacorn)

[wide wraith]

ewwww i hate the stickers

[full rampart]

I couldn’t resist

[wide wraith]

i will just stick to the shadows

[full rampart]

I blame liannin

[slate fossil]

there is one named Spike

[wide wraith]

i am too old to know anything of MLP

they were not out when i was a child

[slate fossil]

the original is from the 80's

[vale yoke]

I'm just so... Tired lol

I'm sure Shadow knows, as a fellow old person, he just didn't get into it.

You're only a little older than me, I think, right?

[wide wraith]

yeah but i was into Dangermouse, Duckula and Dark Crystal with a little of StarFleet

[vale yoke]

MLP was a lot like Jem & the Holograms or Rainbow Brite - marketed mostly to young girls.

[wide wraith]

55years and 2 days

[slate fossil]

I am sure that I am older then both

well, def older than Shadow

[vale yoke]

Somehow I didn't clock you were 14 years older than me, Shadow. But that's legit. I was thinking more like 48-49?

[wide wraith]

lol

i feel a lot older especially at reset lol

[vale yoke]

Oh gawd yes

I've started to do the thing falling asleep on the sofa randomly. Husband will shake my shoulder like "honey, you're snoring while trying to click things, pick a task"

[full rampart]

Oyyyy you didn’t tell us. HAPPYYY BELATED BIRTHDAY

[wide wraith]

thanks, no i hid it

[full rampart]

Hope you had an amazing day

[vale yoke]

Happy birthday to Shadowww, happy birthday to Shadowww, happy birthday to Shaaaddooowww... Happy birthday to Shadow

[coarse verge]

We are not supposed to do both ?! , wait , what?

[vale yoke]

Apparently

I've always been a multitasker

[wide wraith]

well if you call getting hammered in 2 of the duels and no one turning up for the 3rd a good day lol

[coarse verge]

Happy belated birthday 🥳

[wide wraith]

thanks

[full rampart]

[wide wraith]

see that why i say nothing lol,

[full rampart]

This will be us next week

[coarse verge]

I Love ❤️ it , Ty

[full rampart]

I didn’t find one without background but ill work on it

[wide wraith]

but tonight i am off to an egyptian themed escape room

[full rampart]

Oooooo this sounds really fun

[vale yoke]

Don't read from the book

Lol

[wide wraith]

lol, as long as they get Anubis in the right role i will be happy

but back to the game i would have rather they brought the lord of shadows as a hero, as it would be my go to

[soft gulch]

most fugly sticker created till date

[full rampart]

Is that a heart?

[spark kindle]

Yes it is eating a heart 🫠

[cloud ridge]

People selling hearts now to fund new reso hero 👀

[spark kindle]

Unless they have a spare heart laying around, that sounds a bit counter productive

[coarse verge]

Join pony squad dane

[spark kindle]

I have my unikitty who represents my current mood perfectly

[coarse verge]

@full rampart dane will be rainbow dash

[full rampart]

[solemn kraken]

cranky and angry?

[spark kindle]

I've always thought I would be twilight sparkle. She's a nerd and know it all like myself

[full rampart]

I made you an emoji dane

[spark kindle]

Oh I look so cool and pretty 😌

[full rampart]

Need to ask dream to switch roles!

[spark kindle]

Ah she called dibs on twilight? It's okay then, I'll be rainbow dash

I love that she's a bit of a rebel

She later on becomes a general or something I think

[full rampart]

[coarse verge]

I can switch 💚

[soft gulch]

*licking.... And that's the animtion

Yuck

[spark kindle]

I'll be fine with rainbow 😌

Which one are you Tallie

[full rampart]

Shadow said he doesn’t want to be one, but deep down we knew he would

Starlight glimmer seems i was a bad one and became good

[spark kindle]

I don't know many he ponies 🤔

Applejack has a brother I think

[full rampart]

Liannin suggested he be apple jack

[spark kindle]

Applejack is a she though, no?

[full rampart]

Oh let me google that, liannin and dream started me on this and i took my job very seriously

[solemn kraken]

prefer the OG MLP, can't stand the reboot

[spark kindle]

All the main group are she afaik

[full rampart]

Big McIntosh is the brother i found it

[solemn kraken]

back when the ponies looked like ponies... flying, talking, ponies...

[coarse verge]

She wasn’t bad , she believed in equality, that no magic should make you different

Later she realized being different doesn’t necessarily mean you are bad

[spark kindle]

Almost all ponies have great character growth actually throughout the series

[full rampart]

I believe in equality also you chose it good

[spark kindle]

My son loved those so I think I watched all of them lol

[full rampart]

I found the brother

[spark kindle]

He's cute 😌

The stoic, broody type, minds his own business

[full rampart]

I need a twilight one without background.

[spark kindle]

You can erase background with an app

[full rampart]

Imagine sos really brings my little pony collab after

[spark kindle]

Hahaha we'll blame you obviously

[solemn kraken]

considering he is the only male (not counting Spike), he knows it's in his best interest to mind his own business 😛

[full rampart]

I was blamed for the unicorn today

[spark kindle]

Anyway, I don't think a pony collab is worse than turtles

Ponies have fought for justice and peace a lot too

[solemn kraken]

yeah, but on which side? personally feel the ponies should be on side of the infected (just so we can shoot them... repeatedly)

[full rampart]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

Ponies are on the good side

[spark kindle]

Why do you want to shoot ponies

[full rampart]

Dream i found it finally

[solemn kraken]

just like Doc Yam?

[full rampart]

@stray acorn

[solemn kraken]

like ah said, don't like the reboot, they is ugly and stoopid, and infected the world with 'bronies'

[wide wraith]

i would rather just shoot Doc Yam

[full rampart]

I think we discussed him once here, i think hes secretly on the bad side

[spark kindle]

I think ponies will also get rid of the crazy doctor and finally there will be peace and prosperity. And that's how the sos storyline will end

[full rampart]

While sos brings us the ponies, we made the team here

[spark kindle]

[coarse verge]

Sima will demand a fish pony, how we can make that?

[full rampart]

Little ponies team assembled

[full rampart]

We need to think of this

[solemn kraken]

OG MLP had merponies

[fair plinth]

Thats the SOS Modern Age Equivalent of "The Last Unicorn"

[full rampart]

Let me look that up

[coarse verge]

Rarity , she designs costumes

Fits Sima

[solemn kraken]

tried to find the OG, but apparently, the reboot has seaponies and mermares

[full rampart]

Sea ponies?

[full rampart]

[coarse verge]

Full squad now

We just need the feedback 🤣

[full rampart]

Applejack

Is missinf

Hun do you want to be applejack??

[solemn kraken]

no

damint, can't find anything connected to the original series 😦

maybe if it's the OG Applejack

[soft gulch]

free Doomsday Sentinel is really nice!

[stray acorn]

very sus unicorn

[solemn kraken]

how 'free'?

[stray acorn]

free to purchase

[solemn kraken]

from where?

[soft gulch]

Free to every DD registrant in the alliance for getting ranked 4th in the group

[solemn kraken]

so, 'free' if you participate

[soft gulch]

yeah 45 players got it

[stray acorn]

@full rampart

[full rampart]

Sima

[full rampart]

So only the ones who were registered got the reward

[full rampart]

We have a little pony team

Do you want to join

[stray acorn]

yos, I'm a fishony

[full rampart]

What u think of this?

[stray acorn]

tasty

gib

[full rampart]

[soft gulch]

that is my understanding, let me check if someone's alt got it

[full rampart]

Thank you I would be really grateful since i heard both opinions

[stray acorn]

fancy fish!

[full rampart]

[solemn kraken]

G1 Twilight was cooler

and had a baby

[full rampart]

Ill look it up… my search history is full of my little ponies

[solemn kraken]

tried to post a pic, but won't let me 😦

search for the G1 ponies

[soft gulch]

\

[solemn kraken]

oh, and Sunshower is a G1 seapony

[pallid willow]

Ahahaha a statue with no affects? Indeed the fools statue 🤣🤣🤣

[full rampart]

thank you a lot for this

[coarse verge]

Rarity is so cool 😎

[solemn kraken]

thought that that was Twilight Splash

[full rampart]

It is

Sima chose the wrong fish

[grim steppe]

🤣

[stray acorn]

u deleted my fish pony!

😱

how could u

[full rampart]

IT WAS THE WRONG FISH

[stray acorn]

NO IT WAS NOT

[soft gulch]

Thank you jungle gems 😌

[vernal moss]

Are we to expect a request of new statues soon?
But congrats, really. They’re great statues to make full use of!

[stable anvil]

Still no betting coins for DOOMSDAY FINAL? HOW LAZY ARE DEVS TO REFILL THE BIDS BEFORE THE MATCH STARTS THE NEXT DAY

[stable anvil]

Devs will soon downgrade everything for jungle gem. They will remove the sirens and move the ugly fishes to lvl 20 and then they will move the nutcrackers to lvl 30 and then they will bring the Christmas ones to lvl 35

[coarse verge]

It was

😫

[stray acorn]

😱

betrayal

[coarse verge]

@stray acorn

[unreal lichen]

Shhhhhh. Leaving such things unspoken might allow it to take longer for them to come up with it themselves.

[stray acorn]

[soft gulch]

@vernal moss the HQ crate needs a refresh for sure. Rest they will do it anyway.

[stable anvil]

I know

But it requires them to make more statues set

[unreal lichen]

That's definitely fair. 😅

[vernal moss]

The tusker and Queen I can’t imagine what would really replace them that’s not been a collab license other than the Christmas one.

The hq crates can definitely use a refresh I agree, shall we make a #📋︱feedback-reporting about it?

[vernal moss]

This happened last time if I recall. It only accepts a bet once a week(?). So an early bet would result in missing the finals. It’s a really bad feature, frankly. I’d suggest to bring it up in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[vernal moss]

The normal collection statues I can see this happening, it’s the tusker and Queen which are more unique. We have a few but they’re licensed. We have the Christmas one which is one that could be replacing either, just hope the tower statues don’t replace them, they’re not near as useful as the two statues we have currently.

[stable anvil]

I know this feedback had been mentioned but wtf do we need animation for Jungle gem like the PREVIOUS one it was lvl cleared and then instant rewards but Devs like to do that bull s*** extra. And for example we finally get the items aka the dices their is not a simple use all button we have to go and use them in increments of 5 or 10 or 20 or 100. But if you have 90 dices you are forced to do hope for the best.

Devs need to remove jungle gem extra shaking the chest around and just give us our rewards we dont want to be wasting our time. And second give us the option to have a use all button.

[novel raptor]

Can we please get an option to disable the unnecessary animation of shells flying towards shop during fishing event? On the last day of fishing event, I like to mindlessly spam clicking the button but that shell flying animation cause lag and blocks the screen.

[stable cosmos]

Fp have defined UI as unnecessary irritant

[digital glacier]

This was fun at the end of the day when the store currency was about to get recycled

REMOVE THE FKN ANIMATIONS YOU INCONSIDERATE WORTHLESS PIECE OF S DEVS. NOBODY LIKES YOUR FKRY

[weak ingot]

Okay who told the devs we wanted more events lmao

Cuz these are non stop

[digital glacier]

They're adding more events because the feedback we gave them 3 years ago 😂
They're just now catching up to that 😂🤣

[stable anvil]

My dices were getting jammed

I spammed 20 dices and clicked skipped and instead it only used 8 dices out of 20

I originally had 90 and was left with 81 in my bag

[digital glacier]

Mine too.
246 I believe I have get recycled at reset 😭

Sometimes, multipliers + get dice. 90-20+11 🤷

[stable anvil]

Well not recycled yet until the event is completely over but thats some true b.s

[digital glacier]

23 hours 22 minutes and a few seconds 🙄

0 utc. That's the next reset 🙄
That's what I said.

[stable anvil]

I made an feedback on removing extra animation

But this is some horse 💩

[digital glacier]

It's been like that since fish came out.

[stable anvil]

And then idk why devs haven't thought of idk a use all button.

[digital glacier]

I wish "ultra lite" mode removed these animations too
But hell, they can't even get the damn thing to work when you toggle it.
And so far I've seen 0 difference with lite vs ulta lite mode 🤷

[stable anvil]

We have increments of using dices from 5 to 10 to 20 or 100 but not a use all, same for slot coins its 10 or 100.

And they wonder why game gets laggy because they are so focused on adding extra worthless animations

[digital glacier]

What's the point of adding 500,000 animations, if people use ultra lite mode 🤷🤣
Job security 🤷

[stable anvil]

Ultra lite mode that people have to wait for it to appear on the screen when they are in the wilderness to toggle between lite to ultra lite instead of it being directly changed in our setting page where it rightfully belongs. And you have to do that every time you login the game

I swear the amount of stupidity and extra devs want to improve their game when sometimes some things are left as they are.

[digital glacier]

Who wants to bet, they didn't fix this either

Unclaimed rewards are lost.
Not sent to mailbox.
Not sent to rewards stash.
Not sent anywhere.
They just disappear.

24 hours of no jg.
Then.
Jg starts again with Lucky slot tokens
And both events end at the same time
So you gonna lose some free lucky slot tokens because you can't skin the wheel fast enough.
Especially with that incessant popup in the bottom right corner

[woeful hemlock]

Waiting for jungle with pinballs

[stable anvil]

One is likely not to Happen

[woeful hemlock]

Nah, it will

[stable anvil]

As of now slot coins have 4 days total left, and they didn't give jungle gems . So if this next day they give jungle gem for slot coins then most likely they may or may not do it for pinballs.

If they want to give for both slot event and pinball they have to give jungle gem back to back for the last 3 days of both event.

[stable anvil]

Devs clearly forgot what it means that even if you dont claim doesn't mean that they should keep it.

[digital glacier]

At this point.
With the increased frequency of events. And short duration.
Let's say for example jungle gems is 72 hours.
I wish there was a box, that you claim, and you get 1 hourly drop of rewards.
Then you can do levels.
Claim another box. Or several boxes.
Do some more levels. Etc.
Basically, being able to finish jungle gems in 1 hour instead of having to log in every 6 hours over 3 days, and do stuff as soon as you can.

Wish this applied to fish, mining tycoon, etc.

Some people would not like the events being tinkered with, but honestly.
How much happier would you be if you could have complete control when you play the entire event and not be screwed at the end because you are sleeping at 23 utc. Or you get enough jg currency at 2359 to buy a rocket to beat a level to get 70 dice to then goto dice event and try to use 70 dice before those last 30 seconds or so 🤷

These past few days with these events have just been ☠️⚰️

[cloud ridge]

Now they'll need to release a ultimate light mode to game

[digital glacier]

Megatronic - lite mode

[novel raptor]

Coming soon in 2026

[pallid willow]

Y'all can just skip the events you don't like, nobody forces you to do them 😌

[cloud ridge]

Hey, that sounds like a nanami line

[digital glacier]

Yeah, I bet on alliance who didn't have duel building. So extra 1 hr for mini game events 🤣

[pallid willow]

It's true, why the need to screw other players over something some don't feel like doing 🤷🏻‍♀️ just see jungle gems oh well don't do it or do it once a day and problem fixed, for you

[digital glacier]

@pallid willow $20 says jg starts at 0 utc, with lucky slot tokens.
Chances are at least 5% of players will finish a jg level extremely close to reset and will be unable to use all their items because of it.

There's lots of things that could be done to solve the issue.

Jg with Lucky slot tokens could have started already, ending 24 hours before lucky slot machine ends so we don't get F I T A worth recycled coins.

Other option, don't recycle or crap

Other option, extend lucky slot machine for 24 hours. Essentially like the first one, but instead of jg starting earlier, lucky slot ends later.

[stable cosmos]

Better planning from the devs would help. Tycoon ran for a week? More? We got jg that fed into it on the last 3 days. What was really the point. It would have been better to extend the balloon and run JG with that again. At least you could have continued with the shop.

[digital glacier]

Yup. If jg was day 1,2,3 of tycoon 1.2.3.4.5.6.7
That would be amazing.
Balloon 4.5.6.7 jg 4.5.6. That's great too.
Whatever. It's a fmita S show of events.

[tardy night]

That fruit slasher, how small is the strawberry on the mobile compared to the bomb they send hurtling along with it? 🤣

Hilarious on the bigger screens

[digital glacier]

Wouldn't know, haven't played it for months 🤣

[tardy night]

The encounter on the Eleanor hero - path of secrets event. Cba remembering the correct name

Flinging fruits to slash at

[stable anvil]

A small dot

Very small dot

[vale yoke]

I wouldn't hate sos fruit ninja if it hadn't done something on my alt when I finished and somehow didn't award me my clovers. I needed those! Ah well .. posty can suffer.
Also, it's so dang laggy omg.

[vale yoke]

Wouldn't it be crazy if someone made feedback about the scheduling of mini-games, how their items are handled in regards to recycling (or not), and their timing in regards to their associated other events?

Oh wait, but someone did.

And you downvoted it.

Please I hope you complain some more about the minigames. Please please please. It's the Lucky Card pearls all over again. Give this old lady some free entertainment.

[digital glacier]

What feedback 🤷

I'll wait

[tardy night]

To be fair, one vote isn't changing much. 500+ don't if it doesn't suit the farts' agenda

[soft gulch]

Tf is going on in this game

[soft gulch]

OCD does

[soft gulch]

We will have Circuit starting tomorrow I think.
Jungle with circuit chips or pinballs or clover 🍀 or slot coins....

How about running 4 jungles together??????

[stable anvil]

Most likely mining

Mining with pinballs or slot coins. One of the two

[tardy night]

Mining with slot coins. Gems with pin balls

[solemn kraken]

for those Events where people are rushing to spend the points before the Event ends... manage your time better, and don't leave it to the last second

[stable cosmos]

That bit is more about maximising prizes. There are many events where there is a last minute rush, or where other currency drops because of others activities.

This is stupid by the devs more than bad management by people.

Of course if they'd stop recycling USEFUL currency it wouldn't matter

So what if an f2p ranks 10th in an event after saving up for 2 years. Honestly

[soft gulch]

People who are on the leaderboard get chunk of coins after the event is over

This expiration stuff is brutal, now that you have 3-4 events running together, you may drop your guard on a day when you are tired to the bones or just don't give an f.

Last night, I kept the phone on the charger and jumped into the bed. I have this cloth box by bedside which has these small prints like kitty-shaped locks, I looked at it and I was oh shoot I forgot redeeming cloud event coins. Not kidding.

[soft gulch]

Yeah mining with slot coins make sense, jungle with pinball will be nice.
And then jungle with chips from Friday.

[coarse verge]

Wow , I am the only one who sleeps and leave all that

[grim steppe]

[coarse verge]

Good morning, feedback fighters

[grim steppe]

Morning!

[coarse verge]

Sleep is important

[grim steppe]

Exactly! More than things in SoS

[solemn kraken]

if they get the coins after the event is over, then there is nothing they can do anyway

[soft gulch]

You show them the middle finger and then they go away.... The OCD demons

[stable cosmos]

I got a bunch of dice from eggs after tycoon ended. Very useful. I shall watch them get turned into garbage after reset

[solemn kraken]

some excess junk was just destroyed at the end of their Event: it says they were converted, but doesn't say what they were converted into

[coarse verge]

That is how I became less OCD in this game

And less addicted

I slept yesterday with 6 tiles aways from 800 coins in tycoon , 1 level away from 35 in JG

And I slept without collecting fish for 8 hrs

And I have no regrets

[coarse verge]

They will not

They stay and get useless

[stable cosmos]

The "new tycoon with new brand of dice"? Thats worse than garbage. Then its just backpack trash that lives forever

[coarse verge]

I have like 31 collecting dust in three backpack , few from each event

Why game over?

Is it timed?

I didn’t hit any bombs?

[stable cosmos]

2 minutes play time

[astral stratus]

Cant help myself but i like the mini game no brainer and rewards are not too shabby

[wide wraith]

i still cant help wondering what is has to do with the supposed main theme of SOS, namely Zombies

[astral stratus]

Nothing at all Shadow, but arent we over the point since like what? 3 year now?

[stable cosmos]

Was fine till the last 12 seconds when everything turned into a bomb

[spark kindle]

We're playing the hall of fame of mini mobile games and that's actually fine at this point, I'm desensitised

[stable cosmos]

I was not expecting 6 bombs at once and blew the last 2 lives immediately

[astral stratus]

[spark kindle]

I couldn't even see that strawberry, I need my reading glasses next time 😂

[astral stratus]

Oh Dane, while you're here, is your skin store ok again with the pop up?

[stable cosmos]

I hope the make the mini game where you're the stupid hero who goes round knocking out the monsters weaker than him... the ads don't let me finish that one and I'd like closure

[spark kindle]

I haven't tried again, will look when I hoard more skin tickets 🫠

[astral stratus]

Gosh I feel you! And you download after millions of times and the game isnt even like that!

[spark kindle]

I want the car mini game we had during turtles, I loved that thing

[astral stratus]

Totally support that we get that

[astral stratus]

That was fun too! absolut no brainer

[spark kindle]

And I'm quite experienced since my kid also loves it, we played a few other versions of it together

[astral stratus]

No stats or whatever determining the outcome

[stable cosmos]

I'm surprised they haven't thrown a tower defence hero merger at us

[astral stratus]

Sir, stop giving them ideas

[spark kindle]

Ahahaha some fp intern is reading this convo, taking notes

[astral stratus]

We just got new reso heroes

[stable cosmos]

Merge 2 rustys into chef. Merge 2 chefs and get ash. Power up your hero tower.

[spark kindle]

😂 Veteran mini game player

[stable cosmos]

It could even actually use the zombies...

[astral stratus]

Like 3 level 6 dreadbeasts merge into a level 7?

[stable cosmos]

Zombies are the enemies. Dread beast would be a wave boss

[spark kindle]

We barely have zombies, they're like some small pests in your backyard you regularly exterminate

[astral stratus]

And use the joker bomb as skill

Gosh I like that idea but i guess my brain is just still tired

[spark kindle]

Uu I love joker bomb

[stable cosmos]

Each hero would come with their explorer skill

Adjusting cooldown and danage and all that jazz. This is not a complicated mini game to invent, i am a little surprised they haven't done it

[astral stratus]

Me too i used him so long for explorer because of the Joker in a Box

[spark kindle]

Same!

[astral stratus]

If i find some time later i gonna write it down ive just election duty today

[stable cosmos]

I don't want it to be actual feedback. Thats kinda dumb. But if they do it after this chat at any point we have good proof they read it 😂

[spark kindle]

And everyone will blame you 😂

[astral stratus]

Noted, no writing down. Just giggling about the "brainstorming"

Its the temu version

[soft gulch]

Temu stuff is cutesy, this ain't

I think they coded it on the day doomsday moneypit was going live

Fruits jumping, bomb falling, ok good enough!

[stable anvil]

Just because i beat the next jungle gem lvl 5 mins before reset because i get the coins i needed to use a bomb which i get the reward and now i have to rush last 5 mins to spend them before the event is over. Its not time management its about what players are forced to rush if devs can stop recycling items and let them carry over. Bullets were recycled every time then suddenly they were carried over so why not the same with dices.

[soft gulch]

💯

[jovial vigil]

Did the developers address the enlistment issues, or should we write a feedback about it?

[wide wraith]

if you call 800k in 3 week fixed it then yeah but i dont

[oblique shore]

Do You know if it’s a bug or it’s how it should work who Mk1 biobattery doesn’t work on Ultra Mk1 skills?

[storm solstice]

8m in 1 week out of enlistment

[storm solstice]

not working for ultra skills. only for normal nodes, not Ultra-Nodes

[oblique shore]

Okok

[jovial vigil]

How?

[storm solstice]

Various factors matters for it.
Might release a video for/after upcoming SvS where we face each other 😅

[jovial vigil]

We do😳 ?

[storm solstice]

Yeah, we do.

[tardy night]

Your snowman and/or the surfer is maxed?

[coarse verge]

I Love it , had more fun than CC

[storm solstice]

Snowman yes, but I cleared even before those over 6m if I had a good amount burnt at SvS

[tardy night]

Ye they had changed algo sometime around when snowman was brought in, don't know exactly. Now most of those steps only work with the snowman/surfer near max

big kick up the wazoo for prolly 80% of the crowd

[strange leaf]

#🖥︱videos_of_survival message

go watch the bugs and get it fixed

Nice game....

delays

duplications

Buildings disappearing in the middle of Doomsday.

Game is out of sync by 20+ seconds lol

[solemn kraken]

... ah really hope you know that the actual game is nothing like that, right?

ah've seen ads for this game that were similar

[solemn kraken]

which one? there were two

[spark kindle]

Turtle version, they added another to Lara too iirc

[solemn kraken]

yeah, and they were different

ah can't remember how now, just they were different 😦

[spark kindle]

Controls were different a bit

Resident evil also had it which was good, I think they changed it for Lara

[tardy night]

Shoot mobs and avoid traps?

[spark kindle]

Yes

[tardy night]

They deliberately broke controls in the second run, made it unplayable for PC folks

Couldn't steer at all.

[solemn kraken]

had trouble steering on tablet as well

[cursive vessel]

Yeah, it was a bit hit and miss on my phone too but it's sos so its not particularly surprising when it doesn't work properly 😂

[digital glacier]

Why is this so complex

[thorny plume]

Is RR matching broken ? My team has litteraly noone with more then 300 in morale and our matchups has 4 guys between 800-900 with high level splinters selebas angelicas maxed behemoths etc all over the place

We had this kind of matchups for months now. Havent won a single fight in maybe 4 months

[tardy night]

Remember when raid scores were lowered

[thorny plume]

Do they want us to quit ?

Yea, so they broke it?

A regular casual team isnt supposed to March with superwhales all the time

[tardy night]

They fixed the matchmaking further in the whales favor

And they won't admit it

[digital glacier]

No. They didn't fix it at all

[tardy night]

Lmao

Sure 🤣🤣🤣🤣

1.7 mil raid scores suddenly being 300k wasn't fixing anything. 2.7k morale folks being lower rating than 100 morale folks is okay 😂

[thorny plume]

Well this is how they get people to stop spending

So not excactly a powermove

Ill rather play Zelda then waste ny time in a rr where we lucky if we get 1000 points

[tardy night]

On the contrary, it makes a specific demographic spend more

[digital glacier]

The more players you register.
The higher your teams score.
The worse the matching is.
Its been like this since t11 introduction.
Got worse way worse with behemoths.

[tardy night]

They fixed individual raid scores. People who were 1.5 mil raid score pre doomsday were lowered by as much as 5x.

We aren't talking of how bad it was, we are talking of how they made it worse.

[thorny plume]

Well as you can see by their revenues, when chasing away smaller it doesnt excactly increase. Its better for 40000 people spend 300 euro a month then it is for 1000 people to spend 4000 a month

I run a business and when I skin my customers alive they dont return

If i shave them 52 times a year its quite alot better

Just saying, im not like funplus in the hundreds of millions, but neither are they anymore

[tardy night]

One of the 2 has a 1.1 mil migration rating, had 900k raid score pre DD, and has close to 800% stats on the other account.

Which one is it

Mufasa gonna write another thesis without answering.

Mufasa gonna post a long ahh paragraph pretending we don't know what goes into raid scores

[digital glacier]

I said they didn't fix anything.
I didn't say the didn't break it worse.
Total troops have less of an effect than it did before. Not by much, it's like migration score, after a certain amount of troops, the amount of migration score per troops is less.

Individual performance plays a role in your score too.
So if max players, only rally 1 building and just score slightly over 180,000 while a f2p gets 10,000,000.

The f2p will have a higher score than they should and the max player will have a lower score than they should.

Alliance win loss also effects individual score as well.
10 big spenders who always win or take over an alliance that always win, will have a higher score than 10 max players who always lose, or took over an alliance that always lost.

It also sections you off in summit based on your rank, so that also plays a factor in your matching.

Also, to your picture, that's using 1 formula, but the rr recalculated score is using a different formula.

Let's say your 360k & 570k
360k have all max heroes but links a 0 star res hero to their top 3 heroes of each type.
^that screen is not including their top 3 max heroes in their score. it's including the 3 @ 0 star heroes essentially taking their 3 max heroes out of that score.
But it doesn't work the same way when the scores get recalculated. It will change. (not saying that's what they did, but that's an example) that screenshot you showed is outdated scoring system

I can also manipulate the rr score and rr recalculated score a lot with tempest arms 😆 but I don't bother. But it's easy for everyone to do it.

It's why I love my crappy alliance 😆

[tardy night]

🤦🏽‍♂️

Answer the question....

Whichever metric or weight change they implement, if it affects the 1% strongest most favorably, are they fixing scores.

Matchfixing is still a "fix"

These people didn't change anything to manipulate scores. It was a global change where half woke up to recalibrated lowered scores and half were the same as before.

Sure, troops have a lower weight. Great.

Does that mean a 10 bil maxed whale with 25 mil troops goes 1/2 the raid score of a player with less stats, less troops, similar playtime, similar history. In which world is that not a fix

[thorny plume]

All in seeing is that they keep giving worse matchups. Your not supposed to meet a team with 4 x 800-900 morale with all special ops to high levels and behemoth skins etc when you are in a team where the highest moral is 300

That is whack

Takes all the fun out of ress raid

Today the raid score means nothing

[solemn kraken]

actually, ah have played a game where they halved mah strength when a weaker opponent attacked, causing me to lose

[tardy night]

Ah yes. They halve your stats these days

Not the raid scores. They just go in and change your stats

[soft gulch]

The March skins don't show up in the events

Pinball has all the items barring march skin, which is holding me to get morale out of this collection

Can there be a feedback

Same thing goes for pearl store, multiple HQ skins but premium March skins are absent

[worn pewter]

Desert survival auto is not working, not getting into matches. Anyone else having this issue?

[digital glacier]

I mean, you want to talk about individual score or matching against whales 🤷

I mean, just look at this. There's 2 things to notice here from this.

1. Even rounding up 176k + 31k = 207k
   In event screen it shows 311k.
2. How well you think this is gonna match.
   1 player is 176k and the other is 31k

[thorny plume]

No idea, but the way it is now is broken, never been as broken

When you face setters you need 38 perfectly timed rallies to kick from buildings and they have 4 like that something is wrong

And its amazing that they dont see the issue

[digital glacier]

193,774 in participant score screen.
175,443 in mailbox message
And going off a % of RR team score
263,708

Now, using those numbers. that's funny.

My individual score variation. Amongst 3 separate screen is 88,625, which is more than the other players single highest score from any of the calculations.
So there's obviously 3 different formulas for rr for displaying scores and matching.

Now, when you look at team matching. My main holds 84% of the teams score and does a crap ton of the work. So, Yeah, my mains solo performance for team water gathered is a lot.

now let's scale that up to 5 whales and 20 spenders and 5 f2p.

Theres way more spenders gathering tanks and getting water from multiple buildings, so they're contribution is higher than a whales typically.
A player who burns everyone and earns 0 team water has a lower score than someone who holds all buildings 100% of the match.

So my alt who doesn't do a ton in rr, has a significantly lower score because it don't perform well. So, that's like a whale. It might be the powerhouse and the reason for a building. But if they're only focusing on 1 or 2 buildings, their performance in a water collected for team score is low.

If i focused more on my alts performance and less on my mains performance, the scores would decrease for my main and increase for my alt.
And if I lost also, it decreases from that too.

Max burn everyone. Don't do nothing. Score drops 😆
That's how easily scores can be manipulated.

The issue with individual score, quantifying a skill.
Issue with team matching, they don't (or if they do, it's broken) use this

[tardy night]

The rationalization is always fun to witness.

Still haven't heard why 1.5 mil raid score got reduced to 300k while 500k stayed intact and it should still be so. But we will certainly get another paper on everything but that

Hey see X, Y, Z sums up to M and you can manipulate it to D

Doesn't answer

C>D with the same weights but is being reduced to 1/5th it's original value while D remains the same.

[thorny plume]

But does that mean its working like intended ? Its broken af

[tardy night]

See the seeding of events across the game and ask yourself if they know something players dont.

Counter intuitive data can often be a possibility, specifically where constant player churn is a cost while retaining 1% of the highest spending demographic can yield 50-60% of revenue at negligible additional costs

It's broken for us. Their whales might be loving it

[thorny plume]

Yea but who loves a carppy matchup? Thats not fun for anyone is assume

[tardy night]

[thorny plume]

Thats so dumb if anyone enjoy the opposite of a balanced or fair fight 😂

[tardy night]

There was a study about this.....

People at the highest end of the spectrum of difficulty have their "fun" witness an increase when they don't face equal opponents all the time.

It's the opposite for everyone else, crap rolls downhill

[thorny plume]

It truly does

I would honestly have thought the opposite

Pin whales against whales to motivate them to spend

I dont think they care if a team like mine needs 36 or 52 rallies perfectly well timed to kick then from a building. Its not like oh man i have to buy the newest pet and max it quick because 36 rallies nearly kicked me

[tardy night]

Nope. That's a loss in fun. Cuz difficulty increases in both skill and costs to win

Whales of p2w are notoriously skilled already

[thorny plume]

I know I would be complaining or feeling equal if I ran into a team where Maddie was their strongest hero all the time

Whats the fun in that

Thats like going to a childrens school as a grown man to pick a fight

Sure, its probably fun for a couple hours

But every weekend, every time ... Not sure if the kids quit first or the adult

[tardy night]

You're not spending a million bucks to be top of the leaderboard in everything I assume.

Somewhere it becomes a question of entitlement for money spent.

Won't be so for everyone. But seemingly is happening for enough

[thorny plume]

Well i guess someone has to feed the whales, but i dunno I just thinks its amazing they have to make terrible matchups to stroke some egos

[tardy night]

Simple example of how different the thinking can be when it comes to protecting an "investment"

[thorny plume]

Its just odd, I always thought everyone would enjoy balanced fights win or loss

[tardy night]

Follow the money

[thorny plume]

A while I was in another un named alliance and it was quite close and very whale matchups. Kept matching with Obi and apple in mining Mayhem and often barely won. That was much more fun the total domination

Guess people are different

The junior in this case has to sell his farm and company likely to invest that little million or two thats needed to catch up 😂😂

Thats the entire issue imo, when the gap is so big, why bother

[tardy night]

The gap will only keep increasing. It's a death spiral with power creep.

[digital glacier]

You realize, a lot of players scores now, adjusting for upgrades, are similar to what their scores were 2 months ago before the super inflated 10m rr scores?

So, ever think, sos screwed up the formula on purpose, to then undo their change, to then be able to say they adjusted it 🤷

You remember that time when it said use X get Y... And devs screwed up and you got 10Y instead.
Its basically the same thing.
You realize, there was only a couple rr events where scores where in the millions or tens of millions?

Ever think that when they changed their formula, it was solo water performance and not contribution to team win? So when they put more emphasis on solo contribution for the teams win, it included the burning of others troops, this, giving many bigger players a huge massive score?
Ever think they screwed that up while trying to fix it? And now they actually fixed their screw up by removing the burning of others troops because that's not actual team water being gathered.

Ever think they did all that on purpose to make you think they actually did something anything about it.

^maybe explaining it that way helps you understand

Previous score 500,00 > mega whale > earns 20,000,000 solo water by killing troops > devs fix and rr score is 1,500,000 > complaints > devs fix removes killing troops from calculation > score drops below 500k because they only in 2 buildings

Previous score 500,00 > low spender > earns 2,000,000 solo water by killing troops GATHERING TANKS! > devs fix and rr score is 1,000,000 > complaints > devs fix removes killing troops from calculation > score increases to 600k because they contribute a lot on tanks and less on killing troops

Maybe that explanation helps you understand the change. 🤷

[tardy night]

🤦🏽‍♂️

[digital glacier]

🤦

To you too.

[tardy night]

Write a longer post. Keep going.

[digital glacier]

I'm not sure what you don't understand 🤷

[vale yoke]

[tardy night]

You can make it 10 phone lengths long

I only had to scroll twice

[digital glacier]

My phone didn't have to scroll to read it 🤷

You must have large text

Or small screen

Or both

[spark kindle]

I think she understands what you say clearly but you seem to be talking about different things

[tardy night]

A: Whales SHOULD NOT not have 1/2 the score of people requiring 30 rallies to kill 1/5th their rally

Mufasa: hey look what goes into it.

Focus on the should not portion mufasa.

We all can conjure up the hows

[digital glacier]

And score manipulation SHOULD NOT be able to happen 🤷

[vale yoke]

Okay, but.

[tardy night]

No one manipulated anything. 🤣🤦🏽‍♂️

People woke up to changed weights.

[vale yoke]

When you're focusing on how it's designed, it gives the impression that you're more concerned with illustrating how much you know about the game design than the topic of relevance.

Use that to support that it's designed poorly and shouldn't be happening, but it doesn't need all the details to be effective

And chek is right, people woke up to this

We get that you're good at extrapolating information and doing the math, that's not in question. But it doesn't serve in these times except to draw attention to your intelligence and comprehension and divert it away from the topic itself

You're probably one of the smartest people I know, but sometimes it gets in the way

[strange leaf]

I think many of the problems stem from the fact that most State of Survival players have never really experienced any form of competitive gaming.

the competing ceiling is "spending money"

[cursive vessel]

[tardy night]

Missing the point entirely then because the conversation is about a red carpet being laid out for predetermined victory

Versus actual competitive ability within comparative spending tiers

Seeding, vs realistic competition

[strange leaf]

there is no comparative spending tiers

the game doesn't allow for this.

[tardy night]

Oh my lord

[vale yoke]

Oh... More popcorn

[strange leaf]

How to you propose two teams can be equal when the systems don't exist to create it?

[cursive vessel]

And coffee

[tardy night]

Do tell us how there are no comparative spending tiers 🤣🤣

[vale yoke]

Lana, cookie?

[spark kindle]

[digital glacier]

You say whales should not have half the score of blah blah blah
^there's 2 things to take from that.
I never said the scoring system was good.
Answer this very simple question.
What player should have a higher rr score.
A.
A max player who sits on the map and looks scary.
B.
A max player who burns everyone and everything and holds 3 buildings the entire duration of the event

[strange leaf]

I'm the R5 of VIP

[cursive vessel]

....

[strange leaf]

DTS is our comparative

is it though?

[cursive vessel]

[tardy night]

Hold on. What do you understand by comparative spending tier

Elaborate, just a little bit

[vale yoke]

We're on the defining terms portion

[cursive vessel]

Need more popcorn

[vale yoke]

I'm just gonna roll the machine in

[tardy night]

We haven't played competitive gaming ever. Learning from the rank 1 dude here 🌚

How long he gonna stay? 2 years? 1? You think?

[strange leaf]

that comment wasn't pointed at you by the way

[vale yoke]

I'm actually curious about how comparative tier is perceived here, tbh

[strange leaf]

it was in reply to "Somewhere it becomes a question of entitlement for money spent" I'm in agreement with there are players thinking they are owed based on what is spend and the game do not create a system that encourages competitiveness.

[tardy night]

Exactly as the company perceives it. Number of packs that a team can purchase ; regardless of how; within a 14 day period.

Current cash flow in the shortest feasible term. Disregard everything else.

[vale yoke]

I meant by Unamused

[strange leaf]

Well, they've never taken a teams purchasing power into account when it comes to any kind of balancing.

[vale yoke]

Oh. Um.

Who wants to say it

I dun wanna

[tardy night]

They have literal whiteboards in their Hq listing overall top states by revenue to use in benchmarking for changes

[strange leaf]

So where is the balance then?

[tardy night]

What do you understand by balance?

[strange leaf]

Is the migration system balanced?

Do they track current and up to date metrics?

Is matchmaking balanced?

[digital glacier]

Is anything balanced in sos 🤷 🤣

[tardy night]

Which metrics? You have to be specific

[solemn kraken]

'balance' doesn't have to equal, well, 'equality'

[strange leaf]

pets, tanks, breeding, spaceship, stats, the other 1 million features that make up a player nowadays.

[vale yoke]

So every different metric

[strange leaf]

We know player A (rally leader) is not always equal to player B (Rally leader) but they produce similar migration scores.

[cursive vessel]

Thought you had run away then, you'd gone very quiet 😂

[digital glacier]

I mean, they include players migration score for supposedly now up to 90 days inactive 🤷

[vale yoke]

I got tagged elsewhere, you know how it is

[digital glacier]

So for a state, that's quite a bit skewed.
Strong Alts she that info too 🤷

Even if they kept or use that data, it's not accurate

[tardy night]

You're supposing 2 things here.

1. That they don't want to leave a way for whales to abuse the system.

2. That they don't get complaints from the biggest ones if they don't.

You guys were yourself asking to speak with their reps last migration iirc?

[vale yoke]

Oh... You're VIP. Yeah this conversation is way outta my BP. Gonna go act my collector level now.

[tardy night]

I've witnessed hmm..9 migration or merger rounds with them. Not a single one that didn't have a loophole ready for exploits.

[strange leaf]

I still want to speak with them. We want competition. We know they will never stop releasing bundles and that spending will always be necessary, but it’s clear the systems for matchmaking and migration are not being managed correctly to promote long-term competition.

[tardy night]

They tried the long term competition route in 2 of their past titles. No mergers or migration for 4 years for some. Was fun to live through 😂

[static raven]

Hi, sorry to interrupt. Does anyone know what kind of hero will be next after Eleanor in the new event?

Infantry, raider?

[strange leaf]

I think they should be able to accurately assess what constitutes a state/player and develop a better system for assigning migration and matchmaking values. The leading state system now feels too large. In our current bracket, there are around four teams that are far ahead of the other 21. How can we help those lower-ranked teams utilize the system to build out their rosters if their goal is to be competitive?

I think you can only do that by having a system that accurately represents what makes a state leading to begin with.

[digital glacier]

They should say hey XXX state, you're being demolished.

Pick the 5 weakest states or so every cycle to do this to 🤷

Players can move to any non leading state 🤷

[vale yoke]

I can already smell the HQs burning...

It's like summer camp

[cursive vessel]

Wasn't ignoring you but I honestly don't know, sorry 😅

[vale yoke]

Speaking of camp.
Camp Cafe dev chat?

[digital glacier]

😆

[digital glacier]

Don't people burn people then migrate out of state 🤷

[vale yoke]

Hush. I had it coming and you can ask my boyfriend

He'll tell you

He earned that for waiting two years

[tardy night]

For that to happen, the 8 member contribution to rallies has to change.

Hard to keep 8 folks spending and get along.

[vale yoke]

4.5 million troops were a worthy goodbye

[digital glacier]

But not just in your instance though.

Basically. It's like abolishing state merge because of their bad criteria they use.
And use a transfer system merge.
Abolish the state but you pick where to go.

[strange leaf]

Burning isn’t desirable, but it was an intended mechanic. I’m not sure you can ever avoid it under any system. Even when it comes to migration, it still occurs.

[tardy night]

They allowed states to choose who to merge with, based on strength handicap and activity count in the first 2 games.

Not being done here. Sells less transfer tickets

[vale yoke]

In my experience, when a very powerful team comes to a place with less powerful teams, just in terms of how we're defining power in battle and such, there's fire.

Lots and lots of fire.

Just another form of join or burn, really

[thorny plume]

Well to be fair if burning cause rr matching score I may be part of the problem 🤐

But in that case, bad mechanics

[strange leaf]

The troop calculation is a tricky one because having a lot of troops does help but then it also made people do some crazy purges.

I'm still not sure why it wouldn't figure much in matchmaking values.

At the same time I'm currently not entirely sure what is going into producing the raidscores anymore.

[digital glacier]

If they use migration rating for scores for events. It's less manipulative and would at least give a more accurate baseline

There's only so little manipulation you can do and it's a constant game wide.

[strange leaf]

I couldn't really tell you what migration score is made up of either now 🤣

[tardy night]

Only if they had a system where highest recorded score couldn't ever drop. That they used elsewhere all the time

[digital glacier]

It's not great either, but X score based on Behemoth bp, heroes bp, X score for top X tempests.
X score per bp for aircraft, X score per X amount of troops bp for the first 1m or so then it's X score for troops bp after that.
Blah blah blah

You can effect it, but it's very little.

[vale yoke]

[strange leaf]

All I know is that our Legion 2 gets matched against teams with rally leaders, even though we don’t have one. Yet the raid scores end up being the same. I’m not sure why it works this way, because they lose fairly often. That one or 2 leads vs a few strong joiners isn't even close.

[digital glacier]

One thing I never like with rr.
20 vs 30
Thats 60 potential extra marches the other team has.
Makes a difference.

Seems like that's not consideration for matching.

It mattered back before plasma was a thing 🤣

[strange leaf]

but we are playing in DD

That team had rally leaders.

1 or 2 leaders vs none makes it almost impossible to compete in RR.

it's the same situation everytime.

matchmaking and how the make up raid scores doesn't make sense.

[tardy night]

1. History
2. Quality of joiners
3. Availability of a vast enough pool of competition.

[strange leaf]

Soth milers ahead of the other 2

0022 stronger than Mt

Legion 2 prior to DD would only win 1 game in 4

[digital glacier]

For S&Giggles
Next RR have your top 10, register. No more.
Have the others join someone or make a different alliance for a 1 off to play.
See what happens then 🤭
I bet you'll see a very different matchup 🤭🤣

[strange leaf]

I think it might be because we don't split legions

meaning like half strong in 1

half in the other

[digital glacier]

3-4 . Spenders alliance issues 🤭

[strange leaf]

then i feel like we are making some other poor legion 2's team suffer 🤣

[cursive vessel]

On another totally unrelated note, why can't I find any level 8 dreads 🙄

[solemn kraken]

manually or Search?

Search has a range-limit

[cursive vessel]

Either, there's none anywhere 😅

[tardy night]

At the top there's nothing above, can only compete with those below.

Part of why it will never be sustainable.

[solemn kraken]

ah have to manually look for lvl 6 and 7 resources, because the closest is 6-8 minutes away

[tardy night]

The game doesn't have enough content to keep people engaged in the core gameplay at the top.

The spending is another matter altogether. Infinite game with no goals but requiring 200k per year to keep floating

1 or 2 might keep going. 8? Lol.

[strong grove]

I can imagine myself when strong players are also out

[soft gulch]

How many teas a day do you britons drink. 🤪

[soft gulch]

That is what I keep saying, game doesn't have long tail content.

The lore is subpar, MIGO is lost opportunity, MIGO could've been the thing that would've kept players engaged and create an intrigue about things that are being uncovered.

[solemn kraken]

what lore?

[digital glacier]

I had some fun this rr. 🤭

[wide wraith]

when are we going to have decent battle reports, these junk ones that people are supposed to have wanted are useless

tells a player NOTHING

[digital glacier]

They tell you allot about %
Mostly % comparing bp 🤭

[wide wraith]

yeah NOTHING

its BS

[digital glacier]

The 2 big graphs have always been pointless.

[wide wraith]

and this new % junk is just that

[digital glacier]

There's more info in comparison magnify glass than anywhere else.

[wide wraith]

yup

[digital glacier]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

^ it's not the greatest photo shop 🤭
But i really would have liked to see overall troop type count survive in rally.

1 year ago. And we just get more crap.

[wide wraith]

matching in RR was its usual BS as well older states = more troops and usually the older states have more players as well

[digital glacier]

Can't believe we've had this crap for a year + addition crap for a month or so 😭

[wide wraith]

they have no idea because they have never played the game instead they play other companies games

aka proper games

[digital glacier]

5 years in old state for troop count = 3 years in new state WITH TRAINING SPEED A.C. That's on the low end
Practically everyone in the large group has been around 3 years.

That is if it's a state without A. C.

[wide wraith]

215 v 759 and the 215 players outnumbered the 215 by 2 to 1

and they had twice the amount of troops at least, if not more

[obsidian sandal]

Hi, how can i create ticket? I have 1 question

[cursive vessel]

I have a poor amount of troops 😂

[wide wraith]

i have almost 15M and was still outnumbered

[digital glacier]

But comparing 1st state with AC to 900s yeah, that sucks. But. What's 15m troops gonna do if you have crap heroes and behemoths 🤷 wasn't Behemoth mk1 released in like 1-800 at the same time
And mk1 had EP in higher states like 900+ not too long after getting EP when the majority of older states had a lot of upgrades done.

Yeah, higher states got a little more fast tracked, but they also got some perks to boost them.

[wide wraith]

my alt has 4M and was out numbered

[digital glacier]

I have 15m 🤷 and I'm old state 😭

[obsidian sandal]

Hey any mod help me?

[wide wraith]

what you mean the dumb gen skip

[obsidian sandal]

How can i try?

[digital glacier]

What's the? ?

[obsidian sandal]

I can't log in with pc

All time failed

But my phone log in already

[digital glacier]

Pc not my expertise 🤭 sorry.

[cursive vessel]

<@&628563208164081690>

[digital glacier]

I thought there was a pc channel somewhere here 🤷

[valid drift]

Hello!

[cursive vessel]

I think there might be but no idea where 😅

[valid drift]

I believe there is too, are you looking for it?

[obsidian sandal]

I'm use huawei mate 20 phone, they don't have google. They have app galary.

[cursive vessel]

Atlas is looking for some help 😊

[valid drift]

This is the channel for PC and Steam
https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1185871219380211793

Hello atlas! What seems to be the problem?

[digital glacier]

Atlas, not me. Pc issues

[obsidian sandal]

hello raphael, I can't log in with pc

[valid drift]

What version are you playing with?

[obsidian sandal]

from pc?

[valid drift]

Have you been able to log on before?

[obsidian sandal]

I'm using old phone

Huawei mate 20

[valid drift]

What about the PC?

[obsidian sandal]

This phone not have google

Im binding funplus from old phone

[valid drift]

Have you gotten the game to run through your PC before?

[obsidian sandal]

and log in from pc but profile not found

no

[valid drift]

So you bound it through funplus from your phone, and now you're trying to get it into your PC but it says profile not found? Is this correct?

[obsidian sandal]

yes its

[valid drift]

Ok. And now are all the details correct? No typos?

[obsidian sandal]

yes

I'm trying with wk

same account

but pc it says profile not found

same problem

[valid drift]

Ok let me check something

And the game is fully updated correct?

[obsidian sandal]

yes updated

[digital glacier]

Does pc use Google app store?

[obsidian sandal]

yes using but phone is not have google

[digital glacier]

And phone uses Huawei app?

If yes
That's your problem.

[valid drift]

Did you download the PC version through the play store?

[obsidian sandal]

I downloaded from main site

[valid drift]

Ok

[obsidian sandal]

I connected the game to VK on my old phone, but I cannot see it when I connect to the same VK account on my computer.

[vale yoke]

I'm not British, so maybe three a week

[wide wraith]

with Huawei the only way you can use it, is to use bluestacks, the account is not transferable to the windows version

[wide wraith]

it depends on the day lol can be anything from 5 upwards depends on how much coffee , juice etc we have in between

[vale yoke]

Lol I'm just chucking because, I mean, I thought it was rather obvious I'm a Yank, but apparently...

For the record, I drink as much coffee daily as the average Brit drinks in tea. Take that as you will.

[wide wraith]

lol i am not average

hey btw are you still in 181

[valid drift]

Hey atlas! Is the funplus bound to your phone number or through an email?

[tardy night]

Contact customer support. Ask them to port the data to Google.

Then you can play on PC. And your mobile game won't work.

[obsidian sandal]

yes

[vale yoke]

180

[valid drift]

Which one?

[obsidian sandal]

I use number

[valid drift]

Ok

[wide wraith]

ohhh my alt in 857 has 181, brillant matching as per usual,NOT

[tepid rivet]

If you move to my state, I offer you a special chat daily for all the lost possibilities to chat with the devs

[vale yoke]

Why must you tempt me so? But alas, the girl does not save tickets.

[tepid rivet]

I have one I accidentally bought at 2 am cause I thought it's a service badge 2 years ago, I can trade

If you'd get your dev chat, you could ask them for same MIGO at least but ooohh wellll

[valid drift]

So it seems like the issue is being caused by Huawei, i would contact CS about this issue, if you need anything else let me know

[obsidian sandal]

I add u friend, if u tell anyone pm me okey?

[valid drift]

Sorry I don't quite understand, do do you want me to dm you?

[obsidian sandal]

yes

[thorny plume]

Quick question, does my raidscore change when i change alliance ?

[wide wraith]

it shouldnt but who knows lately

[thorny plume]

Hmmm i was hoping it would. My raidscore is way way to high

Somehow my alliance keeps getting 100 percent bad matchups. Like top tier setters

[wide wraith]

thats just the Devs who cant match to idenitcal words

we are the same though always screwsed in both RR and KoH

[spark kindle]

It used to get lowered a bit but I don't know if that's still the case. Try it with an alt first

[cloud ridge]

@feral sinew I thought the rr matchmaking was fixed, again, what is the blasphemy

[wide wraith]

fixed in favour of certain states and alliances maybe but not fixed as in to be fair

[cloud ridge]

Then all is well, long as their big boys don't rage quit

[wet ermine]

It doesn’t seem to change anymore. When I switched alliances my raid score was the same

[digital glacier]

It changes.

[wet ermine]

Oh when I changed alliance mine was the same

[digital glacier]

The screen you can see doesn't update like it used to.
Previously, in the registration screen you could see your score change immediately after you win or lose rr.
But it doesn't change now.
That score is locked in at the time the formula is ran to display that value.

You could see your score change after upgrading your strongest hero 1 level.
Now you could locate and max gen 21 and you won't see your score change a single digit.

Train millions of troops and you used to see that change number.
Now, you don't.

But if you do absolutely nothing for the 2 week span of RR showings and you change alliances inbetween, you'll see it's different.

Easy to test with an alt.
And i did it last rr and the one prior.
Alliance winning still effects your displayed score. But there's also 3 different scores you see anyhow 🤭

Well, 2 you see and 1 you can calculate to see there's a 3rd scoring.

[wet ermine]

It’s so weird, I tested it out a few months back and took screenshots but it was the same. Maybe I had some kind of bug back then 🫠

I guess that’s also why my plan didn’t work lol

[digital glacier]

Rr screen display

A few months back, you mean before they tinkered with it and people had 10m rr score. Or during? Or after?

Cause that rr score display hasn't changed in like 1.5 years

[digital glacier]

@tardy night you busy? I have a little question for you regarding your rr scoring debacle.

Let say for funsies here.
2 players register for RR.
1 player is 100% maxed. With 1 million troops.
The other, is a free to play, P15 player with 10 million troops.
Should these 2 players have the same rr score?
Im pretty sure your obvious answer is going to be

NO. And that the max player score should be drastically more.

So, that leads me to my 2nd question.
For the free to play players 10 million troop count.

Should 1 troop from the max player = 1 troop from the f2p?

[unreal lichen]

I'm lurking because this is an interesting question. Hope you don't mind me adding on-is the final question asked in terms of creating a balanced match or just in general based on the wild power difference?

[digital glacier]

Answer what you believe.

I'm gonna show you how flawed the system is by this hypothetical.

[stable cosmos]

Troops being counted for anything bp wise always seems mad. They're nothing to do with how strong you are except tier and plasma. They're just how long you can keep playing. Which isn't bp related at all

[cursive vessel]

The only thing that comes to mind is that the extra 9 million troops shouldn't be the same as having everything maxed... cause logic says the extra 9 millions troops don't do anything helpful against a maxed player 😅
So a maxed players score should be higher regardless of troops 🤷‍♀️

[digital glacier]

It's not about 9m vs max stats. Having the same score.

Its simple
Max player 1 troop = same score as = f2p 1 troop

Both P15 t12 yadda yadda. Whatever.

[stable cosmos]

Strictly speaking, no. They shouldn't be worth the same as the maxed player with one troop would kill 6-12 of the non maxed player in any fight even if they lost

I am sure from fp logic however, troop is troop

[digital glacier]

• no. Because max player 1 troop can cause tons more damage than f2p 1 troop

...
...
well, in that case, you're BOOSTING THE WHALES TEAM PERFORMANCE , because, can't the f2p sit in the safe zone and use all 10m troops to reinforce the whale? So essentially, in a small manner of speaking. the whale has 11m troops sort of? Because if the f2p garrisons the max players building, it takes on the stats of that max player. Causing those troops to be a lot more effective in a teams performance.

Lowering the score of the f2p troop VALUE because of lesser stats and f2p effectiveness to use those 10m troops.

So.... Anyone want to say yes? 🤭🤣

[unreal lichen]

Well they could except that their troops would get sent home as they become injured, so then you also have the factor of them trying to get those troops back to the garrison wherever the 1 maxed RL is jumping around at with probably very few speeds, buffs, etc?

[digital glacier]

Who said anything about jumping 🤷

Can't a f2p who saved also do the same?

Bunch of bio from fishing and jungle players complain about 🤣

[unreal lichen]

Lol true that. But not many save up like that or have the savings to last past one match so then the next one they have nil?

Your garrison is only as good as the troops that can actually get to it too.

[digital glacier]

Again. This is a 2 man rr team. They won't face 30 biggens.
30 f2p maybe 🤣 but max won't need to jump and that's besides the point. This is purely based on how to score 10 million troops of the f2p.

So let's say for s& giggles here. If your answer is

• yes, 1 P15 t12 troop from a max player should have the same score being applied to the player as 1 P15 t12 troop from the free to play player.

Both are P15 t12.

then essentially your boosting the f2p score 10 fold because of troop count and drastically increasing their score.

this negatively impacts the f2p capability for trying to gather from tanks because 300,000 troop march with f2p stats is not the same effectiveness as 300,000 troop from a maxed player stats.
It might take 30 hits for the f2p to kill the whale, but the f2p only has 10 times the troop count. Not 30 😆

[unreal lichen]

It would certainly be an interesting matchup if they did.

[digital glacier]

See the issue with comparing the effectiveness of 1 troop to another.

And applying a score to it

[digital glacier]

I'm no whale, but just for fun here.
This is a good example here

2 man team.

I was 15 minutes late.

[unreal lichen]

I bet that was an interesting matchup for sure.

[digital glacier]

P5, P10 vs P15, P14, P13, P11?

If not for them having those extra marches to gather tanks, I would have won.

It was fun. 🤪

[unreal lichen]

You mean you couldn't dart around fast enough to boot them out? So disappointed

jk jk

[digital glacier]

What U mean 🤭🤣

[unreal lichen]

I love interesting matchups where it feels super lopsided but then it's relatively equal in the play.

[digital glacier]

But that's the thing
How do you accurately score troops of 1 player with lesser stats to another with higher stats.

Lesser stats are not guaranteed to be reinforcing the higher stats player
Less stats player not guaranteed to be using their stats to fight at tanks

But both are a possibility.

And both cause very different results

[unreal lichen]

And they're also not guaranteed to show up or be able to enter the match even though they're selected.

[digital glacier]

• alliance win loss performance.
  If you're new, why should this effect you?
  If you're legion 2 always but go to legion 1, why should this effect you?

Your new to the team so your cohesive gameplay is not there with others like it would be in your old alliance or other legion.

• if alliance win loss shouldn't effect your score, then it's basing it based on stats and troops and upgrades and stuff. Essentially potentially giving you the same fight week in and week out and not much variation.
  So if your team has a poor strategy with high stats and lose often, it won't ever change.

But if you have low stats and a good strategy and win often, this won't ever change.

So if win loss effects your score.
Then eventually you'll face an issue where max players lose several times because they fight other max teams, so your mid spender alliance with amazing strategy who wins non stop, will face them.
Thus, mid spenders vs max players both with good strategies competing.
Max stats and good strategy gonna win that matchup most often by a landslide.

Then, it lowers the mid spenders score and increases the max spenders score.
Repeating the same cycle again and again.

Hence the matchups we see now.

So again.
Do you use alliance win loss effectiveness or not 🤷

And, how do you quantify a score for a f2p troop with a max player troop 🤷

So, Yeah, 2 things there to think about.
Really. The troop thing. 🤣

And the 3rd thing.
Individual performance.
How can you quantify that into a score.
Performance is based a lot on your strategy and your strongest in the teams capability.

Are you a tank gatherer or a reinforcer 🤷

So yeah. Now you wonder why scores are so difficult and out of whack and why matchups suck.
^ and matchups in summit also broke down between time selection and tier.

Time selection can play a role in what players show and what ones don't. That's the biggest issue with 3 slot selection.

^ which that can cause your strong team to lose and drop tier.
Or rank up high, and get demolished because your whale misses out.

And when they miss out and you drop a tier. Then they show up, it's an easy win.

[unreal lichen]

That and there is still the issue where even with the time selection some get stuck with a time outside of their choices.

[tardy night]

You keep dancing around. Don't give me hypotheticals.

Tell me why people who have 1.1 mil score should have their score go down to 300k, while those at 500k remain unchanged.

Next migration, let's have all those hypotheticals make your state a leading state in migration score where each f2p has 3x migration score of any maxed whale in the game. And every match you get across events from then on will have those f2p face an actual lead state🌚

Don't write another novel skirting the question.

Remember. Same history, higher stats. Higher troops.

That f2p can gather for 1000 million years and the whale will leave the game in 6 months. Migration score should obviously factor in potential future growth for someone who always threatening to leave after every update.

Others will probably see how dumb that can be ^

Don't discuss Y when we are at X and haven't moved the goalpost. It's doing nothing to help you make your points.

[digital glacier]

Ok.
Let me ask you this
2 identical max players.

1 max player registers for rr and sits in safe zone and scores 0 points.

1 max player burns everyone to smithereens and scores 100,000,000 solo points from killing everyone.

Should they have the same score?