#📋︱feedback-discussion

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solemn kraken
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ah just happy to reach 10

cloud ridge
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I will complain then 😏

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And no, it won't convince them cause they don't care

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But whining let's me vent

west fog
tardy night
west fog
cloud ridge
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Not just myself though 👀

tardy night
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I got just 1 question.

What benefit do 10 jungle gem events provide, that 1 dna skill obtained via bio usage, won't immediately override. shocked_froggie

cloud ridge
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Hence why I don't think they should remove them just improve elsewhere on it

tardy night
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Apart from bio

cloud ridge
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I dno, I don't know about the gene stuff

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For me gems is more the in-between rewards like currently for the balls for astro

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The milestone rewards like statues and towers are nice, but I like getting the themed item more

tardy night
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Do ya need to see the numbers for where they have twisted the feedback to interpret it their own profitable way? I can run them up over the weekend

cloud ridge
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I get and understand it's rng, though I don't trust FP and I know some runs better than others, bios are good for all, never a situation bios aren't.

There's just a time and place for them.

cloud ridge
west fog
cloud ridge
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I know

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I could make feedback on it, but then risk making it worse

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So, I don't wanna

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I just make everyone else suffer 😂

west fog
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Ergo egoism.

cloud ridge
west fog
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False player hopes

digital glacier
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We get to look forward to hearing about biocaps from fishing event soon shocked_froggie
Hope people read what I replied to before they complain about it

west fog
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Fun plus hickory

cloud ridge
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I like fishy

digital glacier
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Many people including myself have asked for a reset or new fish or something to get more, like it was the very first time it was released, they did exactly that.

The real question is, did anyone learn anything from that 🤣
I sure as F know i did.
I definitely know what to and not to do come this new map for a crap ton more rewards in the long run of things...

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I knew when the event came the 2nd time, how much I did wrong the first event release 😅

pallid willow
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I hope all the complainers about biocaps get bloody hemorrhoids for a long time

digital glacier
pallid willow
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I hope they get both

soft gulch
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it goes on, i was heartbroken a lil not getting loudspeakers from level 44, 46 and 47.
but hey you cant win all right

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It almost gives me a panic attack, seeing a feedback about bios.
I fear one day a dev sees it and calls sunset on JG or do something even worse that cannot be unfked.

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Luckily i dont see much outrage on Mining, that one I have mastered to get to level 120-130, with super low spend

digital glacier
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I'd really like to know.
How many people complain about bio from events, but are also the ones who "researches" this in their migo book (who WON'T MAX THE BOOK FOR THE BADGE)
I bet a lot, but most won't admit to it because that would seem hypocritical of them 🤣

soft gulch
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The latest "too many bios" feedback has folder icon. this is scary

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a Mod has taken special interets in it, we are doomed

cursive vessel
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It needs more downvotes 😂

soft gulch
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If it was written by me, it wouldve already got enough 😄

cloud ridge
soft gulch
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We all are spinning Ray 3 times in SOTF/SVS, because curent gen hero drops are shiz.
We have Nexus, where I bun 50-60k bios each session which has fight

cursive vessel
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It is for new gen heroes, i can max all the older gen ones but it takes me the full 3 months to max 1 new gen hero 😅

soft gulch
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We ae at the end of gen in 2 weeks, and my G10 Conor, still not done. Laura is Coloneled for badge but poor String, he is still in first brain

cursive vessel
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I need the last two to max Stacey, so i need another 180 and that's just 1 hero. I haven't even really started the other 2 gen 20 heroes 😅

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My 3rd march is still gen 12 😂

wide wraith
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if you knw you are going to be getting the mega skip next time (on gen 12 now) dont bother with rays place this time, save everything to jump on day 1 of the next migo

cursive vessel
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Yep, this, there's no point continuing gen 12 upgrades

wide wraith
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i didnt bother from the start lol

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also saving to get a kickstart on gen 21 lol

west fog
soft gulch
harsh owl
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Interesting conversation about BIOS.

  1. Ray's Place
  2. VIP 13 Store - you can easily spend 150K-200K bios and there are some nice items in there
  3. Value Vouchers - 15K bios
  4. Alliance Throwdown - 15K BIOS task
  5. Gen Skip
  6. Used to finalize upgrades to balance your use of speedups
  7. Stamina - I wouldn't recommend using them for this but yeah, if you have no other alternative you can

I'm sure I'm missing some other things of importance BIOS can be used for.

wide wraith
digital glacier
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@soft gulch
you know why you get downvoted on some of your feedbacks.

This is how it used to be.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message
I love everything you wrote.
Except this part

toxic orchid
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Hello 👋

digital glacier
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Other than that, your feedback is 💯 on point.

west fog
digital glacier
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Refill AP?

soft gulch
# digital glacier I really don't want a red dot on my talents because I have instant recall availa...

That is more in consideration with buffs like Insta recruit (we have 2, 1 from MIGO and 1 from Chief crystal research), Bios and Marches grants and Insta gather.
If you forget using them or use them much later than cooldown, its sorta loss for you, you get 1000-1500 free troops literally, never like to miss right. Now, most of the buffs have a very staright forward cooldown, 12 hrs or 24 hrs. Crystal research's Insta troop recruit is vague (like 2 days, 6 hrs ?), even Insta gather has 15hrs frame.

Having a dot will help.

Now, other thing is that I NEVER heal troops, I use 10% insta heal everyday and save RSS, but I get late in using it and sometimes it slips off. Since I am on WAR talets all the time, i dont get to see cooldown status either. A red dot, will help greatly.

digital glacier
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You ask for red dot on 1.
You get red dot on them all.
That's how sos works.

soft gulch
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I think most of them have this. Dont like Red dot, just uncheck it. Plasma Lab's cannot be unchecked and it irritates.

wide wraith
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only time i ever use the 10% heal is in CC, most of the time i dont need it

cursive vessel
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Plasma lab annoys me to no end. I hate red dots and that one never goes away 🤣

digital glacier
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18 hr cooldown used at 0 utc
12 hr cooldown used at 0 utc
6 hr cooldown used at 0 utc

Different cooldown for 3 different skills, will have red dot.

You begin clicking it all the time every login because you see a red dot. But it's a red dot you don't care to use just yet.

3 months goes by of doing this often.

You get used to seeing a red dot there.
You stop clicking it.

Eventually.
You added a red dot to the game that nobody even pays attention to anymore.

digital glacier
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So. You're asking for a feedback to be implemented, that probably won't have that checkbox option
That will essentially make it something you hate seeing a red dot for.

Lol. That's priceless.

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You didn't specify that checkbox in your feedback.
So devs surely won't implement that

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So. Do you see why people downvoted it?

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Maybe they thought more about it. Than you initially did. And realized the comparison here.
Or they simply seen. "add a red dot" and said.... NOPE

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When the realization sets in

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🤯

cloud ridge
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Feedback, add in settings option to turn off all red dot reminders in game 👀

digital glacier
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I have you both votes.
Cause, 99% I love.
That 1% red dot have you that downvote

digital glacier
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Including
Blah blah blah captured water processing plant 3

cloud ridge
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I hate rr banners

digital glacier
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Like bro I'm trying to reinforce wpp2. Not go look at wpp3 🤣

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Bunkers banners when trying to do intel 🤦

soft gulch
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I provide feedback to state my pain point, not solve wold hunger.
As part of my job, I identify problems, there are 100 ways to fix them.
Not every way would be equally efficient, or practical, but that is for 2nd level of conversation.

We are providing feedback for very first level and suggesting what comes at top of our heads as solution. There should be multiple ways to do it. But what we first need to agree that its a problem or not and if its worth solving for.

cloud ridge
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I'll be scrolling across map or trying to click something then next thing you know I'm teleported to someone kicking something

digital glacier
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Like bro. I'm not registered to fight bunker 5 or facility 3.

Why I care who took what 🤣

digital glacier
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Level 5 suggestion.
Automate the game for me
Because there's 8675309 events that need to be done today 🤣

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I bet you.
If you split your "suggested solution" into 2 feedbacks
You'll see why they downvoted you
And I'm betting. It's cause red dot solution 😜

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More possible suggested solutions = more possible chance for downvote

digital glacier
soft gulch
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People are insanely touchy on this discord. I am stopping giving an f over downvotes.

There are some guys downvoted this. It feels like they don't even play this game.

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

digital glacier
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Girl cuts man's cahones off.
Man shoots girl
Girl dies
Suggested solution.
Man gets life in prison.
Man gets pardoned for his crime because it was justified for having his manly hood taken away 🙈

.....
Both are possible outcomes
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But many votes will be on both sides.
Just saying.

digital glacier
strong grove
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I need strong account free 🙈

soft gulch
digital glacier
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🤣 No. Lol. It's fine.

strong grove
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Are there people who quit the game, please give me the acc for free 😁🙈

soft gulch
harsh owl
tepid rivet
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Liannin, have the devs remembered to ignore you one more day after your 1+ year dev chat win? If not, please ask them if they play the anniversary event and if they like it

vale yoke
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Thank you for reminding me, my lovely Lexie!

Dev chat and a goat? And a partridge in a pear tree, to make it seasonal?

stable cosmos
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On the 468th day of xmas the devs didn't give to me, a chat and a cup of coffee

vale yoke
tepid rivet
vale yoke
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🫠

stable cosmos
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I have edited my poem

vale yoke
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"Day 468 waiting for my Camp Cafe Dev Chat;

I think they don't think I'm serious. I really do want a goat march.

The partridge and pear tree are negotiable."

vale yoke
stable cosmos
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It still fits, they didn't give it to you after all

west fog
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468 bottles of beer on the wall, 468 bottles of beer.
Take one down and pass it around, 469 bottles of beer on the wall.

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(It's not a bug, it's a feature)

winter echo
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Your new feature counts up. 😂

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Can it count up my potions? 🙈

west fog
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So does Liannin's dev chat counter

winter echo
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Yeah. 😔

west fog
winter echo
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Thank you! ❤️

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Pipe dreams. 😂

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I’ll keep doing Power Play.

west fog
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Let's have a bit of Christmas spirit in here if the game can't achieve that for some reason trollcat

winter echo
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Be like Oprah and give everyone gifts. 😂

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Auto correct. 🙃

west fog
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I tried to have a little competition and promised a little gift. But nobody jumped onto it, so the according joke I'd made up for it is rotting in my brain. That's real pain there. 😂

winter echo
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Oh, no. 😔 Maybe try another day.

west fog
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Nah, it's over. Was comedy of the situation. You can't bring that back. A_a_froggo_sad_ggSOSCAFE

winter echo
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We’ll blame the nobodies for spoiling it. They are grinches. 😔

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Hopefully they only get coal in their stockings.

west fog
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Afaik, many would be happy about coal in here 😂

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But I still can give a little gift unconditionally that people are used to in here (to get it out of my system):

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🍅

winter echo
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We all love those tomatoes so thank you. ☺️

stable anvil
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This is what happens when yall talk to much 💩 about bios

west fog
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I'm not sure love is the right word😂

fallow lodge
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Thanks for all the people who complained about only getting bio of fishing event

stable anvil
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Now no more bios and that means jack for rays place

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Dummies

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They wanted rods they get plenty now from the new maps

west fog
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Congratulations

fallow lodge
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Absolute losers

stable anvil
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I rather have 480k to 600k bios then a few damn rods

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Now watch as they come online and complain oh we only gets shells now,then why not stfu

fallow lodge
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Mods shut this damn page down

stable anvil
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Fish event now turned into tycoon event

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Now if they keep this up watch out for jungle gem

west fog
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They've worked so hard to achieve it

stable anvil
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A f2p doesn't care, they appreciate anything they get in their hands. And well as a f2p/low spender i did enjoy my 600k bios

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Just waiting for @digital glacier To come online and back slap some people

digital glacier
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🤣🤣🤣

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Who said 8 haven't been online 😆

fallow lodge
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So bio in it but need to get high on level 2 cos better bio rate on level 1

west fog
thorny plume
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Well, whoever kept talking. Lol fu this one is on you

west fog
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I won't be calling names and tagging them. I'm not like that. But I've got nothing against it if someone else does it... trollcat

stable anvil
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Lets go back through feedback and start tagging them

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Oh

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Well

thorny plume
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We all told you to stab and stfu, you didnt

fallow lodge
thorny plume
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Now lets see if you get more golden hooks 😂

stable anvil
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I think this is good and practical advice now. Now they realized that all this chit chat has ruined a good event which gave bios, now they will learn to keep their mouths shut about mostly anything

thorny plume
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They dont

west fog
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Nope

thorny plume
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They will go complain about not enough bombs next

stable anvil
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They were worse then spenders who blabbed about the big warrior store and the huge benefits it gave

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As a f2p, just shut up and take what they give, dont applaud it nor complain

thorny plume
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Welp they gonna stay real quiet now. Just know this one is on you and i despice you for it. Deep down they know

stable anvil
west fog
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And I'm sure FP reps reading in here are currently having a party

stable anvil
west fog
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Like mad scientist watching white lab rats going through hoops and button pressing games experiments they've set up for them.

thorny plume
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Well, to be fair. They did fix it. "we" complained about too much bio. Now we not getting too much bio 😂

soft gulch
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This is why we cannot have nice things.

thorny plume
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Remember to remind people thst come to complain about other events about this when it happends as it will happend again

west fog
stable anvil
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I didn't complain rather i enjoyed my bios

soft gulch
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Yeah who is this "we". I know who you are.

stable anvil
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Rays place was Soo pleasant i could do all 3 days max spins with those bios

bright crypt
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I also miss my biocaps EyesCry

stable anvil
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Bleed you dry

tidal apex
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Now we getting nothing, no bio and no baits in drops as well :p

Just small remider feedbacks were asking about having more baits in drops. Noone asked to get 0 drops. Dont missplace your anger, it is FP being FP, not peoples fault

digital glacier
# stable anvil Just waiting for <@891747979374002267> To come online and back slap some people

Well, here's the thing. There's a bug in the fishing event.
Also. It still shows there's bio in the idle rewards. Maybe they did remove buffs from the Biocap and free 6 hr idle rewards for real, maybe it's part of the bug 🤷

So, we shall see about that, so for now. I'm going to keep my mouth shut about it.
And if they legit did remove biocaps from idle rewards for the 12 hours you can get. There's definitely a few people to blame who mentioned prove vs reward. That are to blame.
So for now. Maybe I'm just keeping my mouth shut for the time being.
And I'm gonna give it about 2 weeks or so. When people start crying they are noticing a huge dip in their Biocap backpack.
Give it about a month, and then you really gonna start seeing people crying about not having enough bio's. And then, at that moment. That's when you'll see me start popping off like I used to back in 2020.

And for any of the players who've been around long enough to remember the ruthless behavior I had back then. Well, let's just say, it would have made you wish your mom would have swallowed when she had the chance to.

cloud ridge
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I thought fishy was bugged?

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Cause someone reported last time no?

bright crypt
soft gulch
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I would rather have my leg amputated than applying band-aid after every Saturday's football game - FP Dev

^^ always remember this.

digital glacier
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It was bugged like this in test state. But is it bugged or legit removal 🤷

cloud ridge
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Who knows, doubt FP will say, we'll only know maybe next fishy event

digital glacier
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What bug # is this for the Xmas event? 309?

cloud ridge
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Seems to low

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It increased daily with switching answers in the mail box as it is

digital glacier
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5309?

cloud ridge
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I like that number 😏

digital glacier
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75309?

bright crypt
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Have you all opened a support ticket yet?

We can also submit a feedback report if it is not a bug.

digital glacier
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675309?

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8675309?

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🤣

stable anvil
cloud ridge
stable anvil
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Isn't it already up?

digital glacier
stable anvil
bright crypt
stable anvil
bright crypt
digital glacier
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For what, auto close 🤷
For waste of the already low server processing ability to process more tickets 🤣

How about.
A game wide bug that's effecting >90% of players have a direct hotline to devs to tell them, hey, your 💩 is broke.

bright crypt
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remember that all players have the right to give their opinion ChickHeart2

digital glacier
stable anvil
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Because you have plenty of keyboard warriors ready to upvote including friends from their own alliance

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Everyone is entitled an opinion doesn't mean its very smart with how Fplus takes advantage of that feedback

stable cosmos
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The only argument for prizes is if they're current. Mostly current for f2p as the design of this game means the spenders literally don't need them. Not about more prizes or less prizes just VALID prizes.

Legendary badge, no useless, regardless of volume. Potion, still good offer this. Cheif XP useless. Behemoth serum still handy

digital glacier
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Knowing. All educated veterans know that feedback is the dumbest thing they could possibly suggest.

stable cosmos
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We all know there is no real filtering of feedback. This system is genuinely bad but there doesn't have to be better from the f---plus point of view

digital glacier
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Example.

How many asked for a pet in the game.

How many think pets are the absolute dumbest thing or top 10 dumbest things sos has done this year 🤷

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Or even in the history of sos for that matter, 🤣
🤷

fallow lodge
west fog
digital glacier
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You want bio gone. That's cool, how about asking 1k bio idle reward icon to be replaced with something everyone can use.
I'll wait....
What you want it replaced with? Warrior badge...
Oh, you want more bait instead. Lol. You idiot.
More bait = more fish caught at a very low catch rate = a small increase in clams, which not only will get you that statue you want. But it'll get EVERYONE THE STATUE YOU WANT 🤣 you're no better off with it than you were when everyone was without 🤣

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Oh, you want hq skin for collection set.
Oh, Johnny gonna get a different hq skin for collection set.

Both increase same morale amount.

You're still no better off 🤣

soft gulch
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Speaking of pets, there was a woman who was claiming that dog genes can be used on Wolf (that would be too crazy for SoS to evn imagine)

She hasn't been seen, after I asked her twice.

digital glacier
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Oh, you want Dr yamazaki to die.
Oh sorry. He's perfected life so he will never die. But he's not shared the secret with the other people in the final hope yet.
So for now, he's given them a low dose early testing stage of gene injection.

...
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Wasn't the enemy we were fighting many many many migo event ago, experimenting with Gene injections 🤷

Wasn't Wolfe a subject of their tests who managed to escape their hold on him 🤷

Sounds to me like Dr yamiaki-moto isn't really a person for the final hope but more a infiltrated individual of the enemy we once were fighting. 🤷

stable anvil
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I think i found a bug with fishing event but this one i dont wanna say it here

stable cosmos
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Dr yamazaki dying only really affects their storyline. Which is bad anyway

digital glacier
charred swift
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Is this a bad time to complain about the number of bios we been getting, I got nowhere to put them

digital glacier
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I'm sure I can find a spot for you.

marble grove
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The fact the deluxe version isn't even upgradable while offering 3 in a day alone, let alone wherever I got one before 🤣🤣

stable anvil
harsh owl
# stable anvil Wow wtf

In what other event did F+ change the rewards that quickly? Where is the link to the report and on what date was it created?

marble grove
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I want to say it was visual bug... as did the same and then could spam quick catch with blues for a while having "0"

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But got nothing from using the 3h speed thing

stable anvil
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But their was one already made for this from the live testing states before a few days ago

stable cosmos
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Sometimes stuff like that doesn't give you anything extra and all you're doing is repeating the anim. Not the first time for that kinda bug

harsh owl
thorny plume
distant gull
harsh owl
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Can you DM me or share more here about the data mining of cards?

I'm guessing they're collecting this information from the Diamond Store and not Apple or Google due to the way those payments are handled?

tardy night
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They were specifically informed regarding how porous the store was in their first title.

They removed the store feature of non authenticated logins. Then brought it back as is.

Same crap was repeated here thrice.

Folks rang up their law office for it as well. They claimed "no damages occured hence we are not liable and no data leaks took place"

charred swift
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Diamond store is a dangerous place to use any card

tardy night
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Meanwhile we had videos of people's cc info being broadcasted in state chats

tardy night
woeful hemlock
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Anyone noticed you get nothing from the two daily free chances other than clams for the fishing Event?

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Not even bios🤣

harsh owl
tardy night
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It was highlighted in that game after a global top player's info was broadcast in what the state chat is.

These guys know of it. shocked_froggie

harsh owl
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*unauthorized spending increments

unreal lichen
tardy night
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The guy doing it there told that Arabic groups existed on telegram who were focusing on this company.

Let's just say that people should worry a lot more than they do. Once the card info is out there, there's absolutely zero control over who gets their hands on it.

thorny hornet
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Fishing challenge participation not being recognized. You can see that i have fished enough times to get to level 3 in the new area that opened today.

west fog
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They probably forgot to implement that for the new area. It works for the old.
And as they don't care to test their own game thoroughly, they didn't notice.

thorny hornet
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I had the free idle rewards only give me clamshells too

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and the 500 biocap idle rewards, too

fallow flower
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🤔Lucky... nothing showed up for me.

pallid willow
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They couple? 👀shocked_froggie shocked_froggie

thorny hornet
west fog
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Friends with benefits

thorny hornet
tardy night
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Who's that supposed to be? Maddie?

west fog
thorny hornet
tardy night
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Honestly can't tell since they started running each character through ai filters. Julie is noticeable. Couldn't tell if it was becca or Maddie.

pallid willow
thorny hornet
pallid willow
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Ahahaha

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Ah hell nah why you reading the lore

thorny hornet
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Back when Julie was released. I was still young and naive then

soft gulch
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This isnt giving snowflakes despite having fished a few times.
If you click GO, it says event hasnt started yet

zealous scroll
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Is the idle rewards on fishing really only clams use to buy powerups?

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Pls relaunch fishing. It's broken

west fog
stable cosmos
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You should always read the lore for the characters. Its excellent for a laugh

soft gulch
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Martha is Nikola and Jeb's mom
that woman in her twinks sure travelled on her wheelchair from mid-west US to eastern europe chasing bois.

zealous scroll
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The old collection is broked. You need to go to new collection to get the complete idle rewards

tardy night
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You will get lesser bio in the new area.

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Cuz you haven't progressed there to level 21 I assume?

zealous scroll
dim marlin
soft gulch
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I dont bug report. I dont like that system

dim marlin
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Oh. But unfortunately it is appearing to be a bug. We have no other solution then reporting it ChickHeart2

soft gulch
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ok

dim marlin
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Once you have made a bug report in your system. I will help you in making one on discord ChickHeart2

soft gulch
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ok I gonna leave for work cya

dim marlin
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Udham i need some more details can i DM you?

dim marlin
solemn kraken
thorny hornet
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i finally got credit for fishing. don't know if it was because i used the rare bait or not.

solemn kraken
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nah, it was because you complained 🙂

hollow mesa
kindred plaza
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Can I ask a question here btw?

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It’s not clear if it’s possible, so I guess potentially feedback on how to provide more info for nexus LMAO 😭

soft gulch
solemn kraken
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okay, the Advanced Reward sounds like a good idea, but it has nothing to do with different Time Zones

harsh owl
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Is there any information on upgrading the wave rider statue in terms of actually raising the level? Tried doing a search and nada.

stable cosmos
distant gull
# thorny hornet

No, real Becca lore is your troops get zeroed when login and popped up Becca screen 😭

storm solstice
astral stratus
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Please keep alliance recruitment to the appropriate channel

distant gull
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Biocaps in jungle gems should be reduce or replace with selection box that still contain biocaps in possible reward (1x speedups/1x Biocaps/1x Magnify/1x chisel)

or just make it instant idle, so players not suffering waiting just biocaps idle

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Or make bombs etc can be stackable when claim idle (not just biocaps/Magnify)

If I looking Fishing Challenge idle, it's better than jungle gems sadly it appears once a month 😞

Nvm I don't make jg feedback, because it hurts me when making feedback, at least fishing challenge instant idle bug is fixed after 5 days waiting I make bug reporting

normal peak
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Who seriously needs all of this in older states? They even removed more speed ups for chief tags

distant gull
normal peak
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No kidding

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At least they offered healing speed ups

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Now trash

distant gull
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I rate Astrowheel Jungle Gems is 2/10, I would rather Megaphone Jungle Gems (it's still better)

stable cosmos
harsh owl
astral stratus
harsh owl
hardy oracle
crystal iron
normal peak
patent olive
timid zinc
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It's normal to be 24h in jungle gems with no rewards, pure biocaps?

cloud ridge
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"Yes"

normal peak
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Yup

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I get a lot of magnifying glasses…they are totally worth it with no axes

tidal apex
# timid zinc It's normal to be 24h in jungle gems with no rewards, pure biocaps?

Every jungle gems game select some people to screw them over.

You know how normal RNG rewards work? Every time it comes a time for a reward drop it generates it according to assigned reward chances.

Now here comes SoS RNG rewards system. Event starts then SoS randomly picks players based on a criteria only they know of and decides this people will get screwed this time.

#

So far had multiple streaks of 24+h of only biocaps in jungle gems. There is something very wrong with how it works but they are too lazy to care and/or try to make it fair.

fallow flower
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Agreed.. but if you complain a lot, the event will be stopped, as they did in MM. Many complained.

vale yoke
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MM stopped serving the devs and caused more problems than it solved.

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They introduced other things to replace it, instead

wide wraith
crystal iron
fallow flower
crystal iron
fallow flower
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It was a good alliance duel I don't know why it was cancelled.

fallow flower
crystal iron
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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New version are good

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When others states should play as a team

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But probably the game system are bad

fallow flower
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Some still don't hear...they are burning the same team... Some people like to burn people, there is no argument about that.

vale yoke
# wide wraith can we all complain about throwdown then, hopefully they will remove that also

Tbh, if they remove TD, then they're likely to replace it with another form of alliance-based points race similar to it, so there's something to simulate a deficit prior to state event weeks.
I shudder to think what such a thing would look like, so maybe in complaining, we should consider what would be acceptable as a form of replacement.

I only say this because it seems the way they develop, there has to be specific styles of things to achieve certain scenarios or environments with the interest of encouraging potential expense and/or engagement. So if we get rid of TD, they may add something far worse to mimic the conditions TD fulfilled.

cloud ridge
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TD main issue to me is the tasks refreshing

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Your personal task you should be able to pick daily, not leave to rng and waiting 5 mins a pop, generic tasks as well could do with being filtered and not be 30 mins

vale yoke
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Tbh, the "blue" tasks that always show up, I think should have a shorter refresh because they were low quality tasks. Whether or not the refresh brings a different grade of task is something which is a separate, yet related, concern from there.

In some cases, I don't mind waiting for 30 minutes for tasks to refresh, but in others, it's like "I don't want a bunch of blue tasks taking up valuable real estate, just replace them"

soft gulch
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Woah, this is BS.
Selena's spece should eb recycled to Specops.
This is seriously inconsistent.

haughty rune
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Please how do I look for a certain alliance? I am looking for Czech language. Czech Republic.

slate fossil
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Just post what it is you are looking for in the alliance

slate fossil
slate fossil
cinder pecan
slate fossil
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it is ridiculous, as this is one area where devs can honestly allow for an fair exchange or recycling that benifits Players! They won't be losing any opportunity to pull a buck out of us, and for once can they just make a beneficial move that is pro Player! The fact that my Alliance store is still giving free Sarge Frag every week and we are on generation 20, is just beyond.

digital glacier
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Some people won't understand the annoyances of their feedbacks 🤣

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Until after it's too late.

slate fossil
zenith siren
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Nexus. There are players who likes to attack the weak. Causing the weak players not only lost RSS but unable to enjoy the nexus event as well.
4xx hours is never enough for few Million troops restoration, suggest to doesn't loss RSS and restore after each day reset.

slate fossil
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Have you made a feedback regarding this topic?

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I am a little bummed my feedback hasn't been met with thunderous sounds from the rush of Players headed that way to upvote!BearLaughing
It must be a bad hour for Players to be online-bbbear_sadhours

pallid willow
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Oh look what my literally tomatoes farm got easily peasy 😒

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And on top of that why is this so tiny?

tepid rivet
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It's an old skin, before they did everything bigger and shinier

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They're all smaller than the current one's

normal peak
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It’s good to see the snitches biting back at their handlers hands

slate fossil
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LOL....I am no snitch- and as much as it infuriates players to hear Mods say [that] I AM a player too! I get just (if not more) frustrated with the game and it's monotonous antics. I am also as human as the next person. And I am under no "handling" of anyone other than Mod leadership.florkInfinitehearts

normal peak
slate fossil
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Do you need a hug florkheart ....I might know of someone....thumbsUp

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Just playing.....How are you today- other than attempting to get me some shiny stitches.happyscreamingrainbow

normal peak
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😂😂

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All good here

tepid rivet
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Can we get a bacon bomb HQ now

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Or at least a bacon emoji

slate fossil
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LOl....it doesn't hurt to ask

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Bacon this is the only one I know of

tepid rivet
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In game I mean. It's been 5 years and the emojis still haven't changed PepeHands

slate fossil
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oh, in game there are such limited options!!!

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no shrugging, no forehead face palm- these are two essential ones. imho!!!headshakeno

tepid rivet
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And bacon

slate fossil
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yes, ofc....and baconflorkInfinitehearts

spark kindle
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I need this in game PepeHands

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And of course facepalm

slate fossil
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LOL- noice

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I'd stay thereRainbow_Heart

west fog
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They even got tomato beer

slate fossil
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I'd stick to bloody mary's

west fog
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They've got that as well of course... less the Vodka... and the spices...

slate fossil
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although I guess in the apocalypse the crafting of beer will be more prevalent than vodka

west fog
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It's just called tomato beer. Basically it's the same as bloody mary... exactly even 😂

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You don't want to know where the froth is coming from...

digital glacier
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I shouldn't have to do this for that.

spark kindle
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It already pretty much looks like that

west fog
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It could be a 50MB download. Imagine that!

cursive reef
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RESET THE GD SERVERS... every event is unplayable!!!

stable cosmos
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Already invented RR bidding war. Each team bids real money to win. The team that bids the most does. You cannot see what the other team bids.

F---plus takes all the money

calm epoch
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Cheating again... For 6 hours iddle, we get 5 hours rewards... Not the first time, thats why i record it

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And fishing event free 6 hours iddle gave me nothing but seashells. I did not record that unfortunatly

spark kindle
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Yea that's because some people were complaining about getting biocaps and made feedbacks about it

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If they keep ignoring useful feedbacks and instead messing with things that benefits everyone, I swear I will start naming and shaming those that asked for it

stable cosmos
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Yep. If you ask for changes like that you will not get an improved experience. Too late now,they won't revert it.

harsh owl
digital glacier
# west fog It could be a 50MB download. Imagine that!

Bundle files are more than that already.
Its also, the reason why loading screen is slow.
It has "bundle preload"
I split screen my game with the sos folder, sorted it by what's being accessed. It's blatently obvious, the load screen could be 70% faster if not for ensuring all those bundles were downloaded, ready for display, and ready access to popup upon load of the game.

digital glacier
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The text at the bottom should really say
LOADING BUNDLES
😅
If the file isn't there. It'll download it.

Honestly. What should really happen is. If you want bundle files, Go to the bundles screen to see new bundles offered. This way it had less of an impact on your gaming experience.
Then and only then does it download the necessary file(s)

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the more you know

harsh owl
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And, I just got bios in my idle rewards on my 2nd account.

But wait, what does my farm (3rd character account) give? Lets record that interaction and see shall we?

12 biocap crates received.

harsh owl
#

So, they're really going to ask us the same exact questions in the quizzes each day of this event?

west fog
stable anvil
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I rather have the same ones repeat to get the 10 gold vouchers, well any f2p would be happy with those odds than new ones and not get those vouchers

stable cosmos
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None of the questions were difficult really except when the game bugged out. And the one about mrs smith which was a bit poor as a riddle

harsh owl
polar osprey
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Does anyone know for RR and the like event if they have said anything about having fixed times for matching (and / or adding more times and / or just being ably to choose 1 time) in say last 6 months? I see they said they looking at matching in feedback summary but if no-one can turn up at time it not a good matchup.

stable cosmos
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RR matching will never be fixed. They've been saying the same platitudes for 5 years now and they've never done a damn thing.

Sometimes you're carrot. Simetimes you're stick.

If you want half fair matching only register 6 people.

harsh owl
vale yoke
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Well there was that one time for a tournament...

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But I think that's above a lot of our pay grades

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You wanna know how many people showed up for Nexus in my alliance today? Three. Five if you count my two alts.
People have become bored by too many things all at once.
We have unnecessarily long events which could be condensed, we have mini games which overlap to create a big mess, we have about 45 minutes worth of just basic login stuff to do after reset...

It's too much.

And then the talking heads at the company probably watch their revenue waiver and go "gee, maybe they need more events?"

No! We need less events, but better developed events.

And somehow - somehow - this company has managed to layoff staff and still try to churn out games like it's 2020.

And what's worse? They do these things all the time to us and we eventually settle for it as a community and normalize the behavior like it's okay, with a quippy, "well, it isn't as bad as this one thing was." That's because they give us the worse experience first to sell the least bad one later.

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Rant done. I'm going to bed.

tardy night
vale yoke
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Chek over here like "young Padawan may be learning"

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Lol

olive sluice
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half of the alliances in our Nexus don't even participate

vale yoke
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Same!

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And that's not to say some of them aren't trying, but what can you do when no one shows up or doesn't want to play it?

tardy night
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If only they clamped down on acc sharing so everyone was on the same boat regarding the time the game takes.

vale yoke
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What a logical idea! But this is SoS. Cone of shame.

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If they did that for all their games, I'm sure they'd hate every second of it

#

How can they sell something that clearly is dysfunctional

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gestures at title portfolio

tardy night
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I mean older games have been running automated for a while now

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People sell crap to keep accs running on macros.

vale yoke
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The newer ones? Not even out of testing and they're having payment issues, missing events, duplicate account formation...

I've literally got a player in my DMs right now talking about how they've misrepresented that title and looking into legal avenues.

It's not even live.

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Four servers open, the first two are basically dead.

tardy night
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In that dragon game, it was either macros. Or 1 person running 5-6 accs on their gaming rigs

vale yoke
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It's been maybe 3-4 months

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Oof

tardy night
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You would see 20 show up for events. 2 people ran them

vale yoke
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And it kills me because they could really do stuff. But they won't.

tardy night
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Mods in the house to shut that talk down. ChickHeart2

vale yoke
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Hence my "they could be a contendah"

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Because we're server rule abiding people here discussing our feedback regarding game development for state of survival and wishing better decisions would be made from the developers who could clearly do better.

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smooth

tardy night
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I wonder if it's just as good a dopamine drip killing bots in muh war game

vale yoke
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Nah

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Not even close

tardy night
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Maybe that's why they push for hyperinflation in bp

Do with quantity what you can't get with quality

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Look I killed 25 gazillion in 1 hit. Woooo

stable cosmos
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Played plenty of games that offer dopamine drips. Like the popularity of the game that gave us behemoth trials. About vampires, and surviving, the name of which i haven't said. Wonderful for making the happy chemicals

tardy night
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They didn't have quite this heady mix of gambling in every single facet. Clearly failing

stable cosmos
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They did also make a game i was willing to spend on. Which believe me is one hell of a bar. Even bought a dlc pack

tardy night
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Gotta remember. Gambling from the whales is easy money without substantial investments to pay off for the experience.

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What would you rather design

A wheel that you can set the odds for based on arbitrary conditions that just rewards some trinkets which lose value within a week for perpetual returns

Or reservoir raid redux, needing salaries of at least 1 dev, 1 person to maintain, and 100 to run support on its issues

#

It's the tools who keep paying who reward this cost structure

#

And they're not here to read any of it. The dopamine is dripping.

stable cosmos
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Dunno, other games get by just fine without resorting to what this lot does. And without constantly reskinning their own development for more games that run on the same kit.

tardy night
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Question of volume.

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10$ x 500k
500 x 10k$

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City builders cannot sustain 500k spenders. Cuz that would mean making something that would retain the interest of 2 million+ players. Daily whenever they login.

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They might think it's a war game. It's an actual game for maybe 10 hours of the week.

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That is not retaining the interest of 2 million folks long term. Ever.

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If they ran it like fps titles, the losses from the 24/7 fighting incurred alone would make attrition their biggest cost driver.

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This is pseudo gaming for the laid back tool who got money to spare and wants to pretend they won by throwing money at a problem.

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Over the weekend.

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Where would you even start to find players to keep feeding whales if this crap ran like an fps. They bank on making people think they're building something worth a crap. Can't have everyone realizing every second that they're building only crap.

distant gull
harsh owl
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Gen skip states should have Ray's Place with all the skipped characters for a month.

That will help quite a bit@merry scroll

Gen Skip states should also have an exclusive FREE crate that gives us the items from Hero Challenges. The generic pieces we're geting are not as powerful

harsh owl
full rampart
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Hello future HinaPadoruFast

soft gulch
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just let us be in our bracket with 71 states. There are enough actives, whales, mids, F2Ps.
competition is still meaningful, geting is top-100 for Circuit event isnt easy at all.
Anniversary/Christmas are hard fought for leaderboard ranks.
What else FP looking for?

all this will fade away if the bracket merge comes

stable cosmos
cursive vessel
soft gulch
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I would like state merges than bracket merges

jolly harness
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Small bracket to merge though

cursive vessel
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We didn't get our first merge for about 1.5 / 2 years.
Merges only work (if they even do work) for so long.

harsh owl
harsh owl
harsh owl
# full rampart Hello future <a:HinaPadoruFast:916266606663974972>

They told me you left?! You're a DLMOD now? Is that a promotion or a demotion, or is this totally not Saberlot and he's gone like Cyan mentioned?

If not, it's interesting that mentioning their name brings out a top mod. If he's gone who is the CM now?

So, on the topic of gen skip, what I mentioned above should be pretty straightforward no? Or do you have some great news for players regarding the state and status of gen skip affected players on behalf of FP?

Last question. I noticed the Discord link on the SOS FP page pushes here. Is this server owned by FP, meaning they pay the bills (only Nitro, I believe Mods here like Reddit mods aren't paid)?

full rampart
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Who told you I left? a_sheeeesh_cry_shock_no

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Saber is not here for now, our CM is Nanami

harsh owl
full rampart
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I dunno if DLMOD is a promotion or a demotion a_sheeeesh_cry_shock_no is definetly more work

amber linden
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„Here“ like idling in dc but I think that’s the only task a CM has to do

stable cosmos
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Nanami sometimes posts in announcements but never engages with us. Saber is on another game or something. Apparently by never managing a community you can get promoted

full rampart
harsh owl
feral sinew
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I am currently in multiple positions and might not be engaging as much as before, but I will try

harsh owl
# feral sinew Here there, how can I help?

I was curious if you had any insight to these comments above #📋︱feedback-discussion message

Do you have any information to share with the community regarding the states impacted by Gen Skip? Any solutions similar to my suggestion that are in the works?

I also have a small question about one of the GMs and now that you and Tallie showed up I think one of you may be able to help with an answer. That shouldn't take very long but it would need to be over DM for privacy reasons and it doesn't impact other players game play.

harsh owl
feral sinew
feral sinew
wide wraith
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is there any news on this #⭐︱game_information message because after the second one is so badly supported in my alliance, i have to wonder if there is a link the inaction od the Devs and people not wanting to play in the nexus

harsh owl
# feral sinew We're aware of the Gen Skip impact and are discussing this with the devs, priori...

Thanks, Nanami.

  1. Does it take a lot to extend Ray's place for a "catch up period"? The math can be done in any number of ways to determine what the best timeline is for such an effort so players are as close to caught up as possible.

  2. During this period can we also get F2P tasks for the missing hero challenges for each skipped character or are the DEVS also *considering a solution for the missing hero challenges items?

It seems odd we have missions stories for Trish, Wolfe and Maddie but not for the newer characters. We're currently on G20 so I doubt anyone besides some F2P players are using G2 characters?

edit: discussing > *considering

wide wraith
#

they put some of the missing Gens into the platinum store not that it is a good solution, and it will only get worse

stable cosmos
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@feral sinew i asked a question a long time back about why drastically outdated rewards were being added to new events. I got an answer but it was vety average. Feel free to prod the devs again and remind them that once a state is 1 year old, combat manuals and chief XP should no longer be considered prizes of any worth.

lucid yew
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Does anyone have any idea how far the gen skip to gen21 will reach?

feral sinew
feral sinew
tidal apex
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When those things are total trash at this point and noone needs/wants them

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New content should be made with new rewards that are relevant to players, what is the point in putting those old things in there?

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Another thing altogether is why new unified koth/RR/SvS rewards shop have way bigger prizes than old shops had? @feral sinew Inflation? We can afford less things than we used to be able to buy

stable cosmos
harsh owl
#

@feral sinew @full rampart where or who would be the best place and person to ask my question regarding a GM and the VIP Program?

I would have assumed it was GM-Lelia in-game but ever since this program started I don't think players, at least myself, were ever able to contact them directly?

It always pushed to Discord and GM-Aria has been unresponsive for a few weeks now, leading to the question I now have. Thanks.

full rampart
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Have they not sent you a message about who to add in discord?

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Like please add: gm…… in discord

harsh owl
full rampart
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I am not 100% sure this is a correct answer because i am not a spender and i never had an GM myself, and we don’t have contact to them being 2 different teams, but i belive they have some sort of “periods” or at least a player i was helping in dm told me so.

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Can you please let me know in dm who was the gm, i can try to get an answer hug

harsh owl
# full rampart I am not 100% sure this is a correct answer because i am not a spender and i nev...

Actually, I just checked my old messages with the GM (accidentally posted it here and can DM you but not sure it matters now based on the below)

It's been well over 180 days, which is the timeline for reassessing each player in the VIP program to see if they are eligible to be offered that service again and it seems I didn't meet the criteria.

While it was never disclosed I know from my spending at the time of being invited and speaking to others with a GM, that massive spending is involved in the criteria and might be the only deciding factor.

I had went completely F2P for a really long period this year, spent on anniversary, but have not spent on this event and will soon be returning to 100% F2P.

cloud ridge
#

Well, that was short lived

harsh owl
# cloud ridge Well, that was short lived

Very, but here's the joke.

Even if you still had one, meaning you're still spending wildly on SOS, the ROI, if you want to look at it that way (your acknowledged by spending and nothing else I could determine) is extremely low.

I remember being told this by players that had the program before me.

Mine tried her best at first, but after awhile it would take 14hrs + at times to get a response to what I felt was a simple question. They were basically CS, just able to help push a few things more directly.

There is another level, but we can guess who spends that kind of money and their communications are...lets just leave it at "different".

They introduced birthday gifts after enough players either complained or questioned its value, but it was a one time 15% off coupon only valid for 7 days. The VIP *frame you get has zero buffs and always bothered me as to whether my peers would perceive me as pretentious, at least the ones who had never interacted with me to know differently.

edit: badge > *frame

cloud ridge
#

They made the VIP CS harder if I recall to maintain, like before if you spent x amount you'd be invited and that, now it's like spend xxx amount to get this VIP service and even then if your spending drops below a threshold you're no longer important enough.

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Hell, even if "important" they still useless for most part, I know in past they've done things for players but those are few and far between compared to everything else they blind side or reflect

#

Also, if Nanami is generally too busy then that's k, but for god sake just get an actual CM who can do their job as CM and talk to people regularly. It's beyond a joke and helps no one.

harsh owl
# cloud ridge Also, if Nanami is generally too busy then that's k, but for god sake just get a...

As with many companies, their employees and those that volunteer seem to be stretched thin. I don't think FP cares about this though and I'm sure they know it's at the core of several problems for those tasked with interacting with the community.

GMs, CMs, and Mods.

As for the VIP program I wasn't aware of that but can't say I'm at all surprised.

Instead of hiring more GMs for the amount players are spending it would be peak FP to instead raise the spending metric so some players like me, but even those who are still spending, quickly lose access.

I do know that the in-game VIP program, at 14 or 15 I think it is? Is now tied to needing to buy a bundle once per week or something like that, or your lose it.

We can already see it to a lesser degree in missions > daily rewards, where one of the items is "Maintain active VIP status"

And agreed on one other point you made. I've been a "VIP" and "Trusted Ally" in many communities in the past, have even held a CM role before, and it had zero to do with what I was spending and everything to do with what I was contributing to the community.

FP is just built different and not in the good way this term is usually associated with.

soft gulch
# feral sinew We're aware of the Gen Skip impact and are discussing this with the devs, priori...

We need to talk.
A lot of ppl, including whales in our bracket are nervous about Gen-skip and bracket mergers.

Last time when it happened our bracket's (1111-1128) merger with 1057-1110, a lot of whales reduced their spending. One of the strongest whales who was/is in our alliance reduced his spending drastically.
The issue last time was that one MIGO season was skipped and bracket we merged in has players who were in the game at least 4 months before us.
The power difference between the whales was clearly noticable.

Power difference between mid-speders and F2Ps is still present.
Unfortunately, we didnt even get even a MIGO HQ skin as compensation.

I hope this is not being repeated again.

harsh owl
soft gulch
#

We jumped from Chaos Clash to Icy Isolation

cloud ridge
#

There was issues with skipped migos before, I can't remember his name at time who fought for it before i think he got banned cause, well, I guess easier to silence people than deal with actual issues if correct

#

There was also a time we argued with a MOD over the migo books stating of course those who've had them for longer will naturally be stronger by skills and stats than those who've had for less time

#

Gen skips will only get worse and you'll be forced to drive up spending to offset

harsh owl
soft gulch
normal peak
#

WTF why did they reset all tomb raider stuff and delete axes

vale yoke
cloud ridge
#

That's her aye

vale yoke
cloud ridge
#

Soares called her feedback and attempts to get comp and notice spam

vale yoke
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And then he left lol

cloud ridge
#

They don't care and will just silence you peepothink

#

We made him rage quit hehe

#

He kinda deserved it though by poking the nest

#

Like, he came out swinging and left the mods to deal with fallout

vale yoke
#

I get why a new CM may be hesitant to communicate with us, knowing what we did to Soares, but we had gotten accustomed to CMs like Saber at that point and even still remembered our fireside chats with Lans - we weren't so removed from that at that time.
Soares was like an open sore here, so of course angry players were going to pick at it.

cloud ridge
#

I'm sure all they did was have a sign in event with HQ skin being main prize and added skins to store for them to get, didn't do much else if anything

#

I felt the issue was more his wording

#

Like, he didn't need to call it spam

#

Like, he could have just said I'll be addressing Jokers concers

#

Instead he poured gasoline and lit a match and went yolo

vale yoke
#

Tbh I think he was a poor choice for a customer-facing employee. Background CM? Go for it, but I don't think he should have been chatting with people outside of technical informations and bug hunting.

#

A customer-facing CM needs to understand nuance and context, needs to have patience and determine if something is coming from a place of trolling or legitimate anger/concern, needs to walk the line between funny and serious without seeming like a try-hard, and also needs to understand that - to players - they are the face of the company we see the most so they need to present a certain bridge between players and corporate.

#

What a CM says and does here is viewed by their customer base, and from that view, we form and shape opinions about the CM, the company itself, and the title.
Those opinions them determine our level of engagement and which metrics we contribute to, such as spending or grinding.

If a CM is unable to greet an angry face without becoming impatient and rude, if their first instinct is to ban instead of mold a conversation into something productive, then they aren't meant to be customer-facing.
Because who people see when they're angry, when they're worried, when they're feeling negatively - and how that person responds - determines customer loyalty to a company and it's potential array of products.

#

When Soares was here, conversation with him felt very stilted, unnatural, and unenjoyable. He seemed like someone who was better suited to data and information, not conversation.
I don't feel it's a loss here without him, but I do wish him well wherever he is and hope he's in a better role more suited to his demeanor.

#

(that's one reason I try to engage Nanami more. Without Saber here, we are lacking someone more customer-facing, and those of us who have interacted with Nanami don't seem to have a bad reception of her. I just hope they aren't keeping her busy away from us on purpose.)

#

Obligatory dev chat and goat reminder

tardy night
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Soares so good at his job he left the industry altogether and became a b2b digital analyst ChickHeart2

cloud ridge
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Nami I don't mind to be fair, she's never not like been "negative", can be jokey and that which is nice but has its situations

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Just wish talked 😂

cloud ridge
tepid rivet
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Interacting with the community is voluntary, not mandatory

cloud ridge
#

Then shouldn't be CM 👀

harsh owl
vale yoke
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Technically I've been doing stuff for free for ages anyway, so i mean. shrug

wide wraith
cloud ridge
#

Liannin for senior CM

soft gulch
#

Its a perfectly legit feedback.

vale yoke
#

Dude I actually really like that compromise of having it that friday in lieu of the holiday. Good on Papa Darth for that one. Got my upvote.

cloud ridge
#

Hun is a dev confirmed shocked_froggie

vale yoke
#

The devs knew in advance that the final active stage of Nexus would be on Christmas, so... Why is it still on Christmas?

Honestly, it would have won the game team bonus points if they had planned for it, then released a statement at the end of November like "hey Chiefs, we realize the end of Nexus has fallen on a day which many of our players celebrate in some fashion. Because of this, we have chosen to move the final stage to another date..."

Then they could have chosen to have more short-run or limited events the 24th and 25th, call it a favor to us because of the Nexus scheduling, and rake in that Christmas money from Gramma.

#

It's like they don't know how to business sometimes.

cloud ridge
#

Well, we had svs before on Xmas and they didn't give a poo so why now

vale yoke
#

They could have, idk, learned. I know, wild idea for them, but even an old dog can learn new tricks with enough incentive and patience.

If you plan for these things in advance, then you can plan the monetization around them, and sell all of it to the community early enough and vaguely enough to generate buzz, which would then increase the likelihood people will at least log in on Christmas to do something.

As it is now, no one's gonna be super overjoyed to be in the game, and then they get to deal with real life people on top of it.

#

Some of the players don't have great things going on in terms of family relations and holidays are bad.

wide wraith
#

When CC was on Christmas Day before, their argument was not everyone celebrated Christmas, so using the same argument, why have a Christmas event at all

vale yoke
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Right?

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If they want a reason to sell us overpriced stuff, try "it's a Tuesday". Seems to work every other time

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.. it is Tuesday, right?

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Just checked. Yes. Okay. Good.

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And I think what also annoys me personally is knowing that all of this is happening, and then we get to turn around and deal with the new year, almost immediate new releases, and then it's Lunar New Year.

And you guys remember what happens at LNY, right?

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It's a public holiday for much of our development team

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For a week.

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I'm girding my loins for that already

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And, like, I get it. People are of differing cultures and each culture celebrates things at different times in different ways, but during previous years celebrations, we have had almost NO support here during the public holiday.
And things break.
Often.
Because it always follows an update and feature releases.

wide wraith
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Not everyone celebrates LYR, so who cares about it. On a similar but different line. FunPlus CBO says then need to slow down , let’s hope that message filters down to the Devs

cursive vessel
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Think it was last time they did an update and shut down for the week. There were sooooooooo many bugs left running wild until they came back

wide wraith
#

A lot of them are still in the game lol

vale yoke
#

I just want them to stop repeating the same mistakes and convincing themselves things are effective, I guess.
Like events landing on widely celebrated holidays, lacking support during other holidays (for whatever reason), etc.

It's ineffective and, despite their turnover and consolidations, there's no reason they aren't appropriately delegating staff. It feels like they just don't want to.

solemn kraken
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what is 'LYR'?

soft gulch
#

LNY, Lunar New Year, aka Chinese New Year

solemn kraken
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thought that, just wasn't sure what 'LYR' was

soft gulch
#

♫ Laydown Your Rants......and surrender to me♫

dry violet
solemn kraken
#

you forgot Snow Yellow

visual lagoon
#

Effortless progress still doesn't optimize , chief gear doesn't include in SOTF event

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Either effortless progress time increase , neither swap phase task to 5th day

noble grotto
#

Anybody remember if these spheres are recycled or not ?

cloud ridge
#

Recycle

thorny plume
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Its usually the opposite of what would benefit you

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Quite simple take

warped token
#

The devs will simply stop at nothing to make it an annoying experience for it's playerbase. Usually on "Goods swap" in Showdown store, you'd have at least 3 varieties of speedups available (2 of troops, healing, building, research and then common 3hr speedup). Now slowly they have been removing the other 2 speedups and left with just the generic speedup

solemn kraken
#

ah thought the Intel Tasks were individual, not shared with Alliance members

warped token
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completely useless items on the swap good store

west fog
#

Just made the same experience for the first time. Got much better idle rewards like a couple of bombs, but no bonus level after lvl20. shocked_froggie

marble grove
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Don't miss out guys

west fog
pallid willow
#

Is mia still going to be available in ray chests next migo?

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I mean the upcoming migo after this one ends

vernal moss
west fog
cursive vessel
#

You can't get mia from rays now🤔

warped token
vale yoke
cursive vessel
#

Yeah, mia isn't in them? Maybe I'm just not looking properly 😂

vale yoke
#

Not everyone is on the same hero gen we are, Lana

twin nest
#

is Abyssal Treasure broken for all states? no special rewards from sides when you are doing divine. like odds dropped by a lot. was not like that when the event just started

warped token
cursive vessel
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She's gen 17 though? I dunno, i never remember what gen we are at now, let alone anything else.

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I dunno, not that it matters 😅

vale yoke
#

Yeah, if people have Catherine, Yamira, and Duncan now as their current gen, then they still have Mia.
Once they go into Gen 20 in January, she's gone

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I think my brain brained okay there

west fog
#

Just imagine what would happen if they'd log in into the team's single workstation the day after Christmas Eve and their metrics would say "Zero Dave🔴"

vale yoke
#

But she'll still be in your platinum store, Michelle.

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Or should be

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She's kinda irrelevant by then anyway tho

pallid willow
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Is for a friend, mine is maxed 😅 I don't think she's irrelevant tho she still beating xiaowen most times

west fog
tardy night
#

DNA skills make a lot of those comparisons meaningless atm.

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A great dna skill on xiao will beat mia and vice versa.

cursive vessel
#

That is true

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Although, getting good dna skills is a nightmare.. like most things that have skills

tardy night
#

Ye, I reckon people will stop enhancing hero skills.

west fog
twin nest
tardy night
vale yoke
#

giggles hysterically

cursive vessel
#

😒

west fog
vale yoke
#

Posty has no complaints. My main and other alt, though...

west fog
harsh owl
#

Seems specific to either your state range or some other factor I'm not aware of.

twin nest
pallid willow
uncut grove
vale yoke
#

I just sent her some stuffs too

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Teamwork!

uncut grove
west fog
#

It shouldn't be supported at all as it's gambling.

soft gulch
#

question

pallid willow
# soft gulch

If i remember correctly the ultra skills do stack, the other ones don't unless they different level skill like one 2 the other 4 or such, same level on those doesn't stack

soft gulch
pallid willow
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These don't stack unless they are different level

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These ones stack even if identical, the ones with lil wings

cursive vessel
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I think if they're identical they don't. If you had an aura of thornes 1 and aura of thornes 2 for example they would.

soft gulch
#

thank you. brb, some reforging to do!

lavish heron
#

Has anyone noticed that sometimes when you fight, certain statues are absent even when you own them??

soft gulch
#

This girl starts firing from turn20 onwards

lavish heron
#

Yeah I know for that but it’s not even that

soft gulch
#

show me the report, may be Hero who is part of that skill died early

lavish heron
#

One of the statues was harvest sprite… opponent stats show in report for that but mine is absent… even the new Christmas statue

lavish heron
soft gulch
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i dont know, cant comment without seeing the report

lavish heron
soft gulch
#

these 3 parts and tell me how many turns battle lasted

lavish heron
#

Was available here

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Yeah I get you now

soft gulch
#

yeah cuz Radiant starts from Turn 20 onwards.

lavish heron
#

Thanks 🙏 for that. I have never looked at that part before. I just get the statues without caring🤣

olive sluice
#

here some more players complaining about way toooo many events!
<@&555639728632758272> Stop this madness, it's killing the game!

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There so many events we only "play" to get some rewards, they aren't fun anymore

west fog
#

They've heared us already. They will reduce number of marches to help with that.

tidal apex
#

Rewards are laughably bad

rotund notch
#

If this has been asked about please forgive me. I looked and saw nothing.

In the Fair chance (Fair tokens) it says nothing about rss crates in the odds but if most everything has been gotten you get a bunch of RSS crates for the 8k tokens it takes for the spin why not giving items in the globe. This i feel is very unfair especially for f2p, They spend coins thinking they will get hq but get a bunch of RSS crates

slate fossil
thorny plume
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Also anyone not getting theese registered?

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Game refuses to accept ive fished

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But Its quite evident that I have

wide wraith
#

the game is broken full stop, Lara tasks reset this morning too

cloud ridge
#

Think for fishy people said you have to use purple lures?

tidal apex
west fog
vale yoke
#

unenthusiastic yay from a darkened corner

cloud ridge
#

I dno, I've not fished yet, I usually do it on last day once have all passives

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But, congrats on FP being clear and concise!

thorny hornet
#

Has anyone else had this happen? Sections of the Adventures Unfoil first story are now showing as having not been completed even though they have.

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Tomb Explorer and Reach lvl 10 both show as incomplete now even though they are completed

wide wraith
#

yeah a few on my alliance had the same

thorny hornet
#

This will be an issue when i start using my pickaxes. I won't get credit for completing all the chapters and will miss out on the 10 frags

wide wraith
#

its a major issue

#

having had to spend to get some of the tasks completed this is nothing but fraud

cursive vessel
#

There's a bug report in for that already

west fog
#

Just realized, even Fortell is rigged. Did it several times with having 12 spheres left and just got the usual march skin box. After spending 10 of the spheres, reducing them to 2, I suddenly got this that I've never seen before

olive sluice
#

You are supposed to buy more stuff then

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rigged as hell

west fog
cursive vessel
#

Yeah, they want you to spend to get it

olive sluice
#

in Las Vegas you'd be arrested for such a programming

wide wraith
#

😲 SOS event rigged i would never believe it, wait yes i would, all the events are always rigged

west fog
# wide wraith having had to spend to get some of the tasks completed this is nothing but fraud

There's only one solution. Don't spend for that, demand from them that they fix it and only start spending again after they've done so. If people keep buying their way out of the shenanigans that their incompetence is creating, nothing will change. Hell, it could even be on purpose so that people spend. Having bugs like that only on some servers and not on others is not something that you'll see regularly anywhere else.

wide wraith
#

yeah Ishould have known better, i put it down to a moment of weakness

west fog
#

That's what they count on. That's how the whole game is constructed. Honeypots everywhere to get the money from people that can't control themselves to this or that extend.
I'm not telling people how to spend their money. I'm just suggesting to give it to people that deserve it.

thorny hornet
west fog
#

Has there always been a limit to the number of golden eggs that one can gather per day?

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I mean wtf? That's letting golden eggs going to waste that many paid for to get and gift them to others.
Here, there's a gift. Now it's a stop, you've got enough of those gifts. Because we decide if you've got enough gifts. We're the Gift Control Society, situated in Santa Clause Lane 11-20, Northpole

tidal apex
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and eggs do not dissapear, you can grab them after daily reset

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Which is not helpfull if event is ending :p

west fog
#

Probably just another of their many manipulation tools they've developed.

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They are the dark side.

stable anvil
#

You cant have them for next event or they turn rotten

west fog
vale yoke
#

This is hell? Looks different than I remember. Who decorated?!

west fog
#

Probably the same budget-conscious intern who designed the employee break room.

digital glacier
stable anvil
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Surprise surprise

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They went from hey we are not giving you any task to hey the task are just empty presents

tidal apex
#

Everyone loves presents, right? Sadly this ones cant be opened shocked_froggie

west fog
#

It was so clear that this would come. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is officially a FB game now.

stable anvil
tidal apex
digital glacier
#

They make a great story with their answers though 🤣

3
Men
Barbers
Use fair vouchers.
Fair vouchers buy
3
Mushrooms.
Across 3 dimensions
ostriches can't fly.
22 days
In a hospital
In february
They open their eyes.

west fog
#

Oi, didn't get mushrooms yet. First they keep me from blue mushy, and now this.

digital glacier
# distant gull Delete loading bundles 😡

Trust I've tried. If I try to edit them., certain things I do will end up saying "your device doesn't have enough storage"
😅 There's no getting around it unless I could actually find the og file to tweak, even then, doubtful.

digital glacier
west fog
#

Excerpt from the award winning book Riddles For Toddlers

west fog
olive sluice
#

stupid game doesn't tell me why my customers are unhappy.. all statues are upgraded as far as I have materials... pavement too.. so what's wrong??

kindred plaza
#

They should provide system warnings before an event ends. Not just for the collabs. It’s hard to keep track of which events are ending because there’s so many. We end up losing the accumulated limited time event currency

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I know many other games actually provide system mail

olive sluice
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Or much better... drastically reduce the number of stupid events

kindred plaza
#

For their events. Of course, they don’t have as many events SOS does, but, I think there should be a better way maybe to have notifications enabled.

kindred plaza
#

Imagine all the spam notifications you receive for all the events ending on the same day

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But hey! There goes my money in a trashcan.

bright crypt
bright crypt
kindred plaza
digital glacier
#

All events should honestly do 1 of 3 things.
1.
Dont recycle our currency
Or.
2.
Have 24 hours to use currency.
Or.
3.
just reward warrior tokens
Add all the items from these shops to the warrior store.
And then we don't have to worry about events ending or forgetting OR SLEEPING WHEN SOMEONE WINS JACKPOT ON FINAL DAY OF LUCKY SLOTS to use currency we never knew we had.

bright crypt
#

or a fourth option, when we start an event, we can already select a reward if we don't use the items, they will convert on that, and not rss shocked_froggie

digital glacier
#

I mean, at that point, you might as well just do option 3. 🤷 The you buy at leisure. 🤣 Cause let's say lucky slot for example.
Need minimum 350 tokens.
But if you have 200. You get what?
At least with warrior coins, after 2 of those events, that be what, 400 worth, so,with proper conversion rate, that's 10 MK2 frags 🤷 or whatever if you get the point here.

If they just used 1 event currency across the board, that would help.
They did simplify it a little but still 100× more work needs to be done than what they already have.

kindred plaza
#

I will write this up later today like 18ish UTC when I’m at work

digital glacier
kindred plaza
#

But hey, if we’re providing solutions, we might as well provide our expectations as well

digital glacier
#

Option 3 better than option 4 🤣

vale yoke
#

lurks lurkingly

kindred plaza
#

War tokens is a good option

digital glacier
#

I mean. If you gonna write up feedback.
Write one up for.
Gen 20 states getting gold skill books and hero badges from map searches.

They changed the way heroes are upgraded
They changed the rewards for bloodsport, svs, koh, rr, etc etc etc.

Why we don't get potions or even the slightest 0.01% chance at syringes in map searches 🤷

kindred plaza
#

But that’s also very good

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Oh sorry

#

I mean

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I will be writing about notifications

kindred plaza
#

To help players remember and avoid their currency recycling after reset.

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They currently only do this for collabs in system mail but I think it would be useful to allow us the option for end event reminders

digital glacier
#

There's already enough annoyance in lucky slot on the last day with that persistent reminder after every single coin spin 🤣 you really wanna add that to all events? Cause it's not gonna be a banner or something. It's gonna be like that.

Tbh, the best thing sos could do, is allow players the option to sort the events tab by ending soonest.
That would solve so much issue.

#

The event page needs a rework anyhow.

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Fortress throwdown Rr koh cc trap showdown etc etc are all required to be alliance
So bam.
Alliance events.

Migo events
crystal mine, treasure quest, Nexus (yes this could be alliance section, but more suited here),
etc etc.

Its really not hard 🤷

harsh owl
# digital glacier I mean, at that point, you might as well just do option 3. 🤷 The you buy at lei...

If they personalized the stores in the way I described back in May, going as far as to give a full breakout of what rewards in an event like POW, the new Honor Store doesn't even come close to how I'd imagine a mega store would look like.

These devs knew we were already going to be gen skipped, they had already gen skipped other states and now gen skip for more are on the way but instead of making the bundles in Ray's Place additive, they made it subtractive. We got Mia in Ray's crates for like 2 appearances, then it went to the weekly deals store, where you can only buy her frags but don't get any potions. Amazing...

When you can't create a store that uses personalization and pre-selected awards that align with a players specific growth path or interests, you deliver the Honor Store, double down on predatory tactics and start putting like buttons on everything because the first thing humanity needs to return to a civilized world is a popularity contest.

So yes, in general I agree with your 1-3, and the mod who added a 4th, but this still isn't fully defined IMHO

stable cosmos
#

You're not even the first gen skipped state. They have made their decision for gen skip and very much aren't changing it. That its a trash decision has no bearing on anything of course

#

The solution as per the devs is "buy bundles" thats the solution. Its a bad solution.

The whole berserk control resilience thing just means after 3 gens f2p have one good march. It doesn't help that rally leads need 3. It doesn't help that the reso heroes beast mode any march they're added to.

soft gulch
# olive sluice

A lot of players, most of them low-spenders or F2Ps blame their inactivity on "game aving too many events".

My reply to them:

No Karen, you are simply not active enough, you want everything hand delivered to you in the inbox like those legendary frags everyday for you being VIP10, you want the events to be culled cuz you are never around. You miss rewards and get fomos, so you rather want events to be gone then showing up, cuz you are jealous that others get the goodies and you don't.

The fishing challenges is an excellent event, I am liking it more than Jungle. Those who have cracked it are having imba fun, stop crying.

olive sluice
soft gulch
olive sluice
#

ok, so you have the same base issue - not being able to do all the events, simply too many.
You just don't want to have this changed.
But many (most?) players want this to be fixed, they don't like the FOMO.

digital glacier
#

To remain even the slightest bit competitive within your own bracket of strength, you HAVE to play all the stuff, not even if you can or can't, you have to.

If i stopped playing for 2 weeks at this point in the game.
Lol. I might as well transfer to the weakest state there is 🤣

#

Fish event. That's easily a few statues, a Behemoth upgrade, weeks worth of mk3 frags, etc etc etc......

wide wraith
#

i remember a time when people were crying out for more events, just remember you reap what you sow

digital glacier
#

Yeah, we asked for more events.
That was 5 years ago when there was literally trap, plague zones 🤣

#

Their implementation of feedback is a solid 4 years after major requests were coming through for more events.

wide wraith
#

i an going back only 2 years ago

olive sluice
#

at the end of every MIGO I read many comments like "yay, we survived another season", "what a relaxing week.. can we keep this?" ... if there's no other festival stuff ongoing.

digital glacier
#

Now it's not even every migo.
Its after every collab, every migo, every, well, those words are getting less and less said these days 😅

olive sluice
digital glacier
#

Oh, hey, guys, did you know....
There's a Lara croft collaboration going on right now? 🤣

olive sluice
#

One of the few collabs I almost like... not much to do as F2P 😄

digital glacier
#

I'd be upset if I were them who signed a contract.
Their Xmas event kinda just made the entire collab hide in the darkest of shadows. 🤣

#

It was great, until, as usual, oh, gotta save keys, gotta save this, gotta wait for that, gotta make room for the obnoxiously over large 3×3 building 🤣

soft gulch
#

The LC Collab was doomed from the start. One whale got frustrated not able to spec ops her, he stopped spending for few weeks.

wide wraith
digital glacier
#

I have fish stuff I gotta go claim on a few accounts cause them letting it be a simple "unlimited" idle time rewards is just too nice of a thing for them to do.

olive sluice
#

I guess it would be more fun to program and teach an AI to play all those stupid time consuming non-core events than do them all yourself.. 🤔

digital glacier
#

8ve gotten better stuff from Xmas than I have Lara 🤣

wide wraith
#

they shouldnt have released vera, while having Lara ongoing

digital glacier
#

At least I can use the stuff I get.
Can't say much about my Lara

wide wraith
#

the xmas event is better than last years just, but too many mini games in it

#

the only events i would get rid of are the two arena ones or change them so the battle engine is the same as the main game, being put against the same state/states week after week makes them worthless

soft gulch
# olive sluice ok, so you have the same base issue - not being able to do all the events, simpl...

I am sorry if I came down too strongly on that.

The point here is that, many times( actually most of the times) people dont find a smart way around things.

Fishing is an exceptionally good event, those who are not engaging with it, have never tried engaging with it.

In my alliance, fishing is at center spot right now, we spoke multiple times about it and every one is liking it. I wouldn't elaborate here much, but those who know it, they know the smart way.

This goes for many events,PPL throw their hands around but never try to watch a catzilla video to learn the smart way.
The event overload is real, but choice is always yours.

olive sluice
#

I watched all the videos of catzilla and the other youtubers, I know how to fish a bunch of rewards... but still it takes a lot of time to prepare and is pretty repetitive and boring.

#

(my personal opinion, shared by a bunch of others)

kindred plaza
#

I spend to compensate for all the time and energy I need to put in for the free rewards

#

Well I used to spend

solemn kraken
#

most events are repetitive and boring, how would you change things up?

stable cosmos
#

I would like a subset of events where you play the game and not some minigame offshoot that has no bearing on ANYTHING.

JG gives nice prizes its true. But I'd prefer we had another version of joint exercises where you got the same prizes as JG just played more like the game

kindred plaza
#

Yall ngl I rlly liked the Tetris block game cuz you couldn’t even buy tries

stable cosmos
#

And of course, bring back underground

#

Make mining mayhem less buggy, bring it back as a 1 hour event like RR

kindred plaza
#

They should bring in mini games more often where u don’t need to spend. Like the candy crush style game (they totally copied from a game I play down to the finishing move after winning it’s crazy and I’m in awe)

soft gulch
stable cosmos
#

They do stuff that is "the game" and then pull it and we get some fishing garbage or something with a claw machine instead

kindred plaza
#

We got matched with the same freaking people

stable cosmos
#

Nexus has fun in there, just not the way its implemented

#

Heck, AH plays the game but cos they won't seed it to HQ levels and the prizes are total garbage its not worth it

kindred plaza
solemn kraken
soft gulch
stable cosmos
#

The claw game? Where you just buy bundles til you bought enough for the final prize and every 3rd claw is a bomb?

kindred plaza
kindred plaza
#

Lemme show h

#

It makes me cry how similar it is

stable cosmos
kindred plaza
#

I agree but frustrated with the matchmaking

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I can’t even participate it’s 5am my time (13 utc)

#

The multiplayer version is EXACTLY the same. Even with the 0/100 safety chance

solemn kraken
#

never seen that in SoS

kindred plaza
#

The style is exactly the same

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Just looks better

#

Lmfao

olive sluice
#

that vid will be deleted soon..

#

see 😄

kindred plaza
#

I deleted

olive sluice
#

ok

#

maybe they used an AI to copypasta it 😄

kindred plaza
#

But yeah I just wanted to show you guys how starkingly similar it is to another game

kindred plaza
solemn kraken
#

there are only a few ways you can make those games different, and usually it's just graphically

soft gulch
kindred plaza
solemn kraken
#

it was just a basic match-3 game

kindred plaza
#

A lot

solemn kraken
#

they have been around in one form or another since forever

kindred plaza
#

But not pvp style like that

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Until honkai

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But it’s a lot diff so I was surprised to see sos do the same style

solemn kraken
#

ah play the one with Molly, forget the name off hand

kindred plaza
#

Is it playrix?

solemn kraken
#

correction, it's "Lilys Garden", not Molly

#

they recently added a merge mini-game to it

harsh owl
# stable cosmos The solution as per the devs is "buy bundles" thats the solution. Its a bad solu...

Oh, definitely we were not the first. Sorry if something I wrote suggested we were.

It's been awhile now. Most of our whales have already turned most of the characters red, our R5 probably all, skills fully maxed.

I believe I've seen the "buy bundles" as a solution postured before and Nanami could have just said the same yesterday because it doesn't take 4.5 months, a longer timeline for other gen skipped states, to have received a solution.

stable cosmos
#

Its not overtly said. But the obvious lack of desire to do anything, a solution wouldn't take 3 years, its pretty clear that the company just wants you to spend when disadvantaged.

harsh owl
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And here I was with a much shorter timeline, one that still doesn't take that amount of time to create a solution.

This is where you can insert the "how many devs does it take" joke because solo players on their own have made suggestions, yet here we have an entire "team".

You can close the gap, a little bit but it requires mild-ridiculous spending to do so

stable cosmos
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They don't really want to do that either. The goal is just make f2p spend. It'll never work, but thats the goal. Spend or quit so you stop consuming server resource.

Never mind that its pretty clear most of the whales hate facing other whales and a game with no fodder wouldn't suit them at all

soft gulch
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there cant be a mechanic which would boost up F2P but wont engage whales.

Sometimes it depends on the whale as well, if they have a lot of time to engage with the game. Like one of our whales just play for 1-130hrs a day, doesnt play Jungle Gems.

solemn kraken
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130 hours a day? o_O

soft gulch
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yes Hun, he is a whale, so plays 130 hrs a day, on weekends it goes to 200 hrs 😂

soft gulch
harsh owl
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😆

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One to one and half hrs

stable cosmos
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I don't think there is any mechanic whales wouldn't play at all. They still play AH. They still play labyrinth. They still play apex despite it being amazingly worthless.

FP just does prizes in a stupid manner.

Rank #1 gets tons that is mostly useless to them. Rank 100+ gets very little that is also useless. A proper spread would be everything is useful with a little rss to bulk it out

soft gulch
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PoW was one which was once favored by F2Ps, loaded with their bombs.

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Then Whales started going in with pemades with 3 other whales and a chaperone.

solemn kraken
soft gulch
solemn kraken
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as long as people don't get abusive about it (which has happened)

soft gulch
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why would someone abuse. its like abusing some one fo their accent. thats not cool.

harsh owl
# soft gulch PoW was one which was once favored by F2Ps, loaded with their bombs.

I was going to post about this recently.

In the POW that just finished, I did not get a single pre-made/team of whales. This was very different than past plays in 875 where meeting BJS and VIP were common occurrences to the point some players seemed to play less, or not at all. "POW was ruined by teams!!!", many lamented in SC or MIGO chat.

I also noticed in this last POW event the teams appeared extremely well matched. "What did FP do? How is the matching so good now? How did we not face a single team/pre-made during this POW?, a few of us wondered?

While I've gotten much stronger since I last played it to the end of POW, the most I ever finished MVP in the past were 1-2 times, and it usually happened at an odd hour for me, where the teams weren't too well matched or I was with a group where quite a few weren't that strong. I wasn't playing bots like I clearly see on my alt quite often, or used to.

This time, I was MVP in 8 matches. What the hell? Now mind you, there were other strong players present, which brings me to my final observation.

A lot of the matches were close. Close to the point where it was only myself or someone else doing something strategically smart that made the difference in the last few minutes.

Conclusion: Whatever the hell FP is up to and they did this iteration of POW, they should copy that if possible and apply it to all states. It was the fun POW we had all enjoyed at one point, until whales ruined it.

knotty storm
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Or maybe you played at an hour where most whales sleep 😅😅😅😅😅

digital glacier
# harsh owl I was going to post about this recently. In the POW that just finished, I did n...

Umm, SOS didn't do anything. You either got lucky on your times you chose to play like killer said, or, you didn't quite get many whale teams because,
you have to consider, whales are focused on Xmas.
And all related tasks that go with it. Jungle gems, fishing, mining, etc etc. So they're less apt to all be on a same schedule doing events and don't make the team as often this time.
And
more and more whales are making teams and fighting each other to save hundreds of hours for all the other more important events in the game. and slowly over time, they stop playing as much pow matches for good rank, but for the tier rewards.

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For the most part anyhow. They kinda have to have those spec ops heroes, and goodies that come not only from stage rank but from the total event rank as well.

harsh owl
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😂

While always possible, I played at the hours I used to play normally and then more so when I saw I wasn't getting any teams.

Just to be clear, "no pre-mades/teams" doesn't mean I didn't face whales at all 😅

cursive vessel
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I liked the pow where everyone was on a level playing field. It involved thinking, which apparently is disliked 😂

harsh owl
# digital glacier Umm, SOS didn't do anything. You either got lucky on your times you chose to pla...

That actually makes more sense than FP having done anything, but for the amount I was playing it felt odd.

What FP has done inadvertently, and would be a lasting effect on returning POW to it's former self is layered more and more events on each other.

We have MIGO, Tomb Raider and Twinkling joy. This is the new pattern, and I can only imagine will get worse.

So, if the whales are off outspending each other for lackluster rewards in most of these events, the rest of us can enjoy POW again while they battle it out in the rankings.

digital glacier
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Don't expect better rank than you usually get in a 2 weeks 🤣
Migo, tomb raider, Xmas etc, all ends. They'll be plenty of whales playing for rank.

harsh owl
digital glacier
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Yup

cursive vessel
digital glacier
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There's a few that cried here because they couldn't comprehend why rusty beat chef 🤣

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Let alone. Strategy 🤣

cursive vessel
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I remember that 😂

digital glacier
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Yeah, and those are the people, their state relies on to win svs 🤣

stable cosmos
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It came back as bump n bounce. And that got played. Didn't last though.

cursive vessel
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It's a shame though cause it was nice having that one event where everyone could play and it didn't matter how strong you were

soft gulch
# harsh owl I was going to post about this recently. In the POW that just finished, I did n...

I had run in with only one whale-premade this time.

It's possible that FP did something, it's also possible that I was lucky. I'm fairly strong in my weight category so I get MVPs quite often.

Imo, PoW craves for many design innovations. Some of the ideas I have will make it very very enjoyable, trust me on this. But if I put it on feedbacks, there will be downrater gang running amok to ruin them. So I wouldn't. I just hope I get an audience with a dev, someday.

Now, it is not like that whales didn't like the cat and mouse game against bombing F2Ps, it's just that they hung out together in hope of taking on another gang but MM didn't work that well...ever.

I would pay to watch whales taking on whales in PoW. But current MM is just going to fry F2Ps.

stable cosmos
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Mining mayhem? You still have it?

feral mango
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I stopped playing POW because there is nothing in the store I need

soft gulch
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MM here -> MatchMaking

feral mango
soft gulch
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Then you really don't have anything

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😄

feral mango
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So I think the whales have stopped playing POW unless they really enjoy it

soft gulch
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It's a ePeen game now

feral mango
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It is the same for me with AH. Complete waste of an hour for rewards that aren’t needed

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All of the rewards need to be updated

soft gulch
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I think Heist is played to take other players 1v1. I play it like KE.

for whales, sitting on top of the hill must be dream.

dim marlin
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Well But heist is tough for all other players that is true

dim marlin
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What so you think?

stable cosmos
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I think they'd have changed it by now if they had any desire to do so after prior feedbacks have already been given

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We know they have about a 3 month lead time on any form of feedback, if nothing has changed or been announced after 3 months its probably dead

dim marlin
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What do you guys think

dim marlin
harsh owl
soft gulch
# dim marlin I have prepared feedback if you like it you can upvote it https://discord.com/c...

I think solution of this is fairly simple.
Players who have finished their badges 90% (Pick a number and keep it secret) or above should have a different arena with different prizes.

Chief Badges Red caps are highly sought after item when player hasn't completed them. Its unbelievable that they can be gotten free only fom Heist (twice a month) , CC(twice a month) and that zombie killing event (one in a month), and they are never enough.

After completing them, heist becomes meaningless except satiating the KE lust and ePeen.

dim marlin
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Well for CC we need to make an other feedback let me make one for you real quick

soft gulch
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The matching of Azur is by state bracket I believe, it woks for my bracket. But not sure it it does for old bracket.

dim marlin
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What do you think udham?

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But lets make some about cc and if i can DM you we can discuss the feedback and can write a feedback togeather

soft gulch
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Sure.

But didnt get your point about CC?

dim marlin
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Lets go DM

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Let us discuss

soft gulch
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ok

stable cosmos
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The red caps are only sought after for an extremely breif period. After that you want badge tags way more and have more red caps than you know what to do with. The crossover point is midway through I'd say.

soft gulch
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Well, when you hit the tier when you need Certificate of honor (the last upgrade tier), both tags and caps requirement get shot up.Tags more. However catch with Tags is that they are not part fo Effortless.

cursive vessel
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I still haven't finished my badges, can't get enough CoH's 😂

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But realistically they're not really important now 😅

soft gulch
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there was a time ~4% of health and leth was worth getting killed for. Now I get 5% HFD on Gene recombo and its purple stat 🤣

magic anchor
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the selection is a bit confusing as the dot is on the left side. the fragments conversion quantity doesn't get updated - need to close the window to refresh it...

soft gulch
stable cosmos
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Legendary frags do not give points. No change.

clever blaze
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Can no longer convert general fragments to the specific hero fragments for gen 7-12 skills to get points it seems 😅

knotty storm
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You don't get points just for the conversion, you need to use them

soft gulch
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Basically general frags used as is, wont give points.

Convert general frags to Hero frags, use them --> Points in SOFT, not in SVS

slim sleet
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I want to know if here i can put my comments about Nexus

solemn kraken
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if it's feedback, sure

tardy night
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Lol. Hun Chou will charge you 5 $ if it's not feedback and written here

lavish heron
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Am I the only one whose game is showing an Asian language sometimes in reports or upgrades??

thorny plume
# tidal apex Did you do any fishing in first lake?

Yes, but whats interesting is that same goes for the Jigsaw. I mean luckily its my alts that are affected and not main. But the irony is that two bases on same account in same state just one of them is bugged.

lavish heron
soft gulch
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Ok...so. Hidden Treasure used to have a free Tier if I remmeber correctly, that was about 1.5 yrs ago

solemn kraken
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it did?

solemn kraken
thorny plume
solemn kraken
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not sure about the Jigsaws, didn't have any troubles with those, always get the three stars (well, except for the second puzzle, only got 2 stars but after getting three stars on the third one went back to the second to complete)

digital glacier
solemn kraken
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damn, ah'm still over a minute 😦

pallid willow
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This is visual bug?

soft gulch
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They removed general frag to hero frag conversion.

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lol. I mistyped frag without R and it triggered red alert. lmao

soft gulch
pallid willow
soft gulch
pallid willow
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Yea but why

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Should go to next level but is stucked

woven willow
soft gulch
kindred plaza
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What is she holding onto? EN_chiledramatic

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Love seeing AI for game Ads

unreal lichen
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she try to enter mirror world lol

kindred plaza
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She got snacks in the cubby

soft gulch
soft gulch
kindred plaza
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She will cut her hand

soft gulch
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i dont think they thought if anyone is gonna look at her hand.
i mean lmao