📋︱feedback-discussion

[hollow zinc]

Yeah we got one fight against zombies and got 0 points. So basically winning or loosing doesn't have any influence. Only how much troops you kill ..?

[coarse verge]

No it is just merits

And winning and losing have influence

You lose 2.5 m merits I guess from alliance merits if you lost / didn’t show up

And based on alliance merits you get HQs

Ranks 1 > 50 member and it decreases later

[hollow pebble]

Those hero badges you can earn with the new store is the biggest piece of sheit there is, I can't do immortal and apex arena due to my power, yes i'm F2p, and you can also only get them in legion 1 for RR and KOTH now, who decides this crap?

[cursive vessel]

I feel like they're gonna make it expensive but also make it 10x harder to actually get the currency🙄

[hollow pebble]

it's gonna be terrible, nice to get more modern materials, but changing a whole store wasn't needed at all, they are just gonna push more people to pay for it if they will at all, that new hero badge item is gonna be impossible to get for me.

[cursive vessel]

And the ratio to convert old to new will probably be ridiculous too

Merging the stores isn't a terrible idea, 1 currency instead of 3 is better but they're idiots and never get anything right

[hollow pebble]

True it isn't bad to just have 1 currency, but these devs are idiots from A to Z and don't know how to code properly, it seems it's already clear those new stores have whales in mind(immortal and apex arena), I don't play legion 1 so will miss out on the whole new item, aka excluding me, and me thinking game was fair for everyone, one of many lies they make

[cursive vessel]

It'd be weird if they changed how we get the currency from rr / koth cause everyone gets it currently (as they should).
I dunno, like everything they write, it's vague and open to interpretation 😅

[hollow pebble]

in the end, this is gonna be a terrible implementation, nice we get new materials, but only half can get them, because it wouldn't surprise me that the behemoth and aircraft items is gonna be behind that new hero item

Sending feedback is crap anyway, feels like throwing paper at a wall and gets treated as street garbage lol

[calm meteor]

It's not a fixed number. Winning alliance takes 20% of the losing alliance's merits

[wide wraith]

hopefully that means they will be scrapping KotH in its current form

[calm meteor]

Well we don't have any news on the conversion percentage but I am hoping for something nice 😂

[calm meteor]

I don't think so. It's just about the stores being merged.

KotH is probably staying as it is for now.

[cursive vessel]

I've no faith, they'll screw us over like always 😂

[calm meteor]

One can hope 🥹

[wide wraith]

well if we had a decent CM they would be able to find out the answer to important questions for example will the rewards stay the same or be different values, important as surely KotH would need to be changed before the store does, not after

or havent the brainless wonders (Devs) actually thought of that

[stable anvil]

If you talking about the merged new store item and new currency they did write something new today.
#⭐︱game_information message

[wide wraith]

also SVS store will be affected ?

[wide wraith]

yeah that it would start on the 4th, midway through events like SVS and just before the crappy koth miss-matches are locked in

as per usual they dont know what is running in their own game

[calm meteor]

Yes, SvS, RR, and KotH stores will be merged into one

[wide wraith]

mid way through SVS which idiot thought that one up

this is where @feral sinew should earn her wages and find out these things

[stable anvil]

Idk how you think it will affect the currency in themselves, if its during svs in which based on what you said then later on Devs will cut the currency off entirely or you never know if they sent a patch update and it will have the new currency

Either way we are still able to manually convert the currency from one to another despite anything

[wide wraith]

then they should tell us the rates, the CM should be pressing for info like that, instead of doing nothing at all

[calm meteor]

Find out what exactly? This is statement and not a question.
As Chiefty said, it's written in announcement that we can manually convert the currency. So it doesn't seem like a problem.

As for rates, we have asked about it. If there is an answer, I am sure it will be announced.

[wide wraith]

but the CM should be pressing for an answer, not just sitting all bot-like and doing nothing

for example where is the followup to her post about compensation from the first Nexus, she mentioned it, she should be keeping us informed

she is not here just to count votes now, which she said was her only role before the shakeup last month

[stable anvil]

Which compensation was that?

[wide wraith]

its like the admin not telling us why the FunPlus subgroup exists either they areFunPlus and should be answering or not in which case shouldnt have their own group

[pallid willow]

It costs 3 that's why i ask 🥲

[tardy night]

Currently store currency is won just by playing rr matches.

What's this about streaks providing badges?

[pallid willow]

Also why did these got cut short from 150 to 25? Wtf?

[wide wraith]

not sure how to link it to here but it said
CM.Nanami — 30/10/2024 09:02
Nexus Struggle: Registration Failed

Chief,

We have received your report regarding the registration issues with Nexus and are actively formulating a compensation plan.
Once finalized, we will promptly deliver the compensation to your in-game mailbox.

[tardy night]

So they are also effectively killing off 30% of my team who can't play Apex or immortal arena cuz they can't earn badges. While everyone else killing them can.

[stable anvil]

I believe i want to know the going rates and hopefully it's nice, seeing that some coins currently are more rarer to get then other. Like regular koth coins and rr coins you get every other week but the 2nd set of koth coins should be more higher seeing as you get them at the end of each round and the end of each koth season.

[wide wraith]

no Mod of any rank has taken this up

[tardy night]

Is there a link for details on that community board? Or reading details from elsewhere

[stable anvil]

What device are you using?

[wide wraith]

pc

[stable anvil]

About the rates, their are non at the moment, only about the currency being exchanged manually, but i would think this needs to be addressed because for a fact not 1 rr or 1 koth coin is worth a KOTH token, thats like comparing the coins to skin tickets

[stable anvil]

Have you tried right clicking the msg , and scroll down to see if it says copy msg link?

[wide wraith]

#⭐︱game_information message

there is is

thanks

[stable anvil]

Hmmmmm

Based on the wordings and seeing as their have been no compensation then that means they have yet to formulate what could be considered a proper compensation to give out for those alliance who were unable to register. Imagine they gave you something basic like skin tickets and such because you are rushing them to give you a compensation. Then all they have are complaints from players saying that the rewards given for not being able to register do not justify what you could have received.

[wide wraith]

the other day , I was told, they fixed it so its ok, but that isnt good enough, they have had a week since Nexus ended, their mistake, they should pay up

or at least tell us what the delay is

[stable anvil]

I understand that the CM says they will give compensation and a further report later but its another thing to send ingame tickets and raise the ticket here in dc so it can be pushed again so they know that the first release of Nexus in live server didn't allow particular alliances to register

[wide wraith]

then the CM should not have made a blanket post like that, its her fault that they will now have to give compensation to the entire game who were in that Nexus

thats if she wasnt just a BOT

[stable anvil]

Again just because you didn't receive a reward doesn't mean its not being formulated. It means that devs are actively seeing what is the bug to further prevent it from happening to you again when Nexus is reopened soon or later.

[wide wraith]

my point is there should be a follow-up post

[tidal apex]

Just saw new info about store changes...

How... Informative 🤣

Perfect example of how to say a bunch of stuff without touching upon essence of the subject...

So koth, svs, rr coins shop can be converted into new shop currency at certain rates. Great! What are those friggin conversion rates? That is most important bit and it is missing....

New store will have all old store items and some new ones that they specificaly mentioned. At least this bit gives little important info. But then again... What will be item prizes in new shop? What quantity of items it will have? How often it will reset? Or maybe there will be no limit?

To make decisions about whetever we should spend all our currencies before shop changes or not we need to know exact conversion rates and new shop prizes and amounts of items it will have... Noone of this was made known....

[stable anvil]

Therefore it could be that they give out compensation shortly before the release of the second Nexus, hence why i am saying ingame tickets and it being raised here again push the ticket further so Devs are aware that we are not forgetting about this issue.

[wide wraith]

maybe if they knew how to use a PTR server properly and properly tested before rushing junk out, there wouldnt be issues like this.
This is also where they need a proper feedback system in place not the junk we have at the moment, that is out of date as soon as its posted

and i bet no MOD will take this up, as long as they get their free stuff, most dont seem to care anymore because they know its pointless

[tidal apex]

Mods dont have any contact line heading to FP

[wide wraith]

but SLmods and Dlmods have an extra line to the CM bot

[tidal apex]

This discord exist only so there is a place where we can let out some steam and rant about how bad things are

[wide wraith]

unless that was also a lie

[tidal apex]

It was never meant to be a solution to problems

[wide wraith]

then whats the point of here

[tidal apex]

This

One of the "how to get people addicted" psychologist they hire must have told them people need some place where they can talk about the game

[wide wraith]

CS is just a bot now, done to save money so the management can fuel up their lambos/helicopters

[tidal apex]

So they made discord and with feedbacks created illusion as if players can affect things

[wide wraith]

notice how no Mod will deny this is the case

[tidal apex]

Oh they will propably deny when they see this

[wide wraith]

that or they are taking lessons from the CM and just becoming BOTS

[tidal apex]

Sometimes they kinda listen to feedback but it is rare and often in completely different way than desired solutions mentioned by players.

Plus it takes them anywhere from months to years to do something...

So it makes me wonder was it even a feedback that was behind that change or it was simply planned to be done months ago anyway? :p

[wide wraith]

then better communication is needed

[tidal apex]

That is key issue- there is not a single formal FP employee in this discord... I mean technically maybe they are if you just look at discord users list but they are not really here

They do not talk here, do not read what is written

All mods can do is try reaching out to CM that shows up once a month for 5 minutes

Or send feedback compilations into black hole where it is never heard from

[wide wraith]

well we dont know if they read it, and of course we are not allowed to tag them, with means really they shouldnt be here and the FUNPLUS group should be removed, they are either FP employees or there are here just as a private individual in as we are often told is the case, they are not involved in SOS

[tardy night]

Pics were shared from ptr in monkeys place

10:1 on svs coins
2:1 on the dragon koth currency
10:1 on rr currency
5:1 on koth betting currency
5:1 on koth normal currency

[tidal apex]

10 rr coins into 1 new coin or other way around?

[tardy night]

10 to 1 old coin to new

[tidal apex]

Okay, thanks

[patent olive]

wow exchange

[cursive vessel]

Wow😅

[wide wraith]

what do ptr care most are whales so wouldnt care about such a terrible exchange rate

it should be a 1 :1 exchange rate across all currencys

[cursive vessel]

Currency is currency, it should be worth the same

Rr coins are no less special than koth coins

[tidal apex]

Were there any pics with shop item prizes? If so could you please share it? I do not think I am in Monkey discord

[tidal apex]

To be perfectly honest all shop coins should have AT LEAST like 10 times buying power they are now... Rewards to effort ratio is just terrible... You play 1h koth to later get for it what, 15 behemoth frags and few skill upgrade thingies?

[wide wraith]

so going on the exchange rate latest gen capsules should be 125/250. potions 25 etc

[cursive vessel]

Can't disagree with you there, guess that might change with the new currency but probably not for the better

[tidal apex]

Oh found this on different discord and I really hope it is not true...

Because limit of 5 behemoth frags looks like a joke 🤣

Unless shop resets daily

[tardy night]

There's 2 stores

The other one on the tab beside it is for svs wins / koth season rewards etc

Where's the stuff like hero frags and potions from rr store ?

[forest kiln]

Probably in advanced section

[tardy night]

Nope that didn't have them.

Was unsure about normal store

[stable anvil]

For those who want to see it

[tardy night]

Can you guys compare what's being removed? They lie with such ease

[forest kiln]

Cute... HQ skin which cost 8K of KOH smthing is 10K there

[tidal apex]

This must be fake or they are just trolling people on ptr. Prizes makes no sense, up till now behemoth stabilizers were one of the most valuable things and now some crappy march skin is worth 100 stabilizers? 🤣🤣

[stable anvil]

Let me see how much it went from 16k koth special coins to the current rate

[forest kiln]

And prices for that useless statues from KOH store🙈 🤣

[stable anvil]

Items are updated every 15 days it seems

[stable anvil]

Also just because it shows up in ptr doesn't mean it will be the same in live state, well everything is 50/50

[forest kiln]

Yes, but 100 coins for Behemoth Ultra Skill Custom Crate... Looks like we will need to sell our liver to get this coins

[tardy night]

They are nerfing current stores. Badly.

[stable anvil]

Also this is stupid

The items are locked

Top listing are locked and have special requirements

[tidal apex]

I think noone of the prizes in ptr are real prizes. They are just trolling people in there. Look at other shop, some dumb skins are set up to be worth as much as 100 behemoth stabilizers crates

[stable anvil]

Also remember their are 2 currencies

[tardy night]

So

Reduced amounts available

Removed items that current stores have

Increased criteria to get the decent stuff.

[stable anvil]

High value currency and then the low ball silver one

[stable anvil]

Yup

All BS

[tardy night]

Such pathetic scum

[tidal apex]

5 behe frags per 15 days 😄 may as well not put it in shop at all

[forest kiln]

Without updated rewards from RR, KOH and SvS, it's difficult to understand this pricing ... but one thing for sure, it's gonna be bad

[tidal apex]

We need thousands of those ...

[tardy night]

Updated rewards don't matter when the coinage will buy you garbage. What will you do with 5 frags? One upgrade needs 250.

250/5 x15 days is when these become viable.

Gonna wait 750 days for koth to give me one upgrade

They nerfed current progress

[forest kiln]

From current RR, KOH and SvS you cant get much either right now 🤣

[tardy night]

Better than this crap

[forest kiln]

I dont remember then I last time bought smth in RR store

[tardy night]

And they rotate sotf and svs heroes now so that frag removal is not a coincidence.

[tidal apex]

This pic makes me think noone of the prizes and amounts are what will we see on live server.

Noone of it makes sense, check skin prizes compared to other items... 100 stabilizers or one march skin? 🤣🤣

And 100 stabilizers in shop per 15 days? What for? Those we could actually live with being 5 per 15 days

Its like they swapped amounts between shops

[tardy night]

So they can bring more companions. And Nerf stabilizers

[tidal apex]

1000 syringes?

[tardy night]

Take SS of current stores lol

[stable anvil]

Its stupid the rate, seeing that right now the big hq skin in koth cost 16k coins, right now the rate for that is 2 to 1. So Essentially i have 16k to get it now but with new store i will have 8k coins and i will need 12k more just to cover the cost and i need to win 5 koth matches to unlock it

[forest kiln]

Yes, this is what I talking about... without knowing what we will get from all this events, it's difficult to tell anything about this prices. But, right now that 10K skin cost 8K and in average it takes around 2-3 years to get enough from KOH to buy it

[tidal apex]

Get 80 stabilizers instead

[tardy night]

They are not revamping the event rewards. Store rewards only

The coinage will change.

[wide wraith]

hope their matching will improve them, you will probably get to 4 wins then be screwed by the matching

[stable anvil]

Yeah no stupid skin with 3 percent atk is worth that 💩

[forest kiln]

Coins which we get from events or we gonna be exchanging regular coins to that new ones?

[tardy night]

Both

[stable anvil]

Yeah this new store is a legit scam

[rocky otter]

What da hell ???? 5 potions, frags and bios ??? Those are too much 😳😳😳

[cursive vessel]

What happened to the potions, frags and crystals 🤔

And probably whatever else was with them

[visual lagoon]

Could you please any mod report it, Screen shot With Local time because it's full similar 🤣

[rocky otter]

Why this game make features which always make players mad but never happy and exited 😒

[tidal apex]

But... They just said we will have all old items, nothing gets removed 🤣

Thats why I never trust anything

[tame oxide]

Got the same for last 2 days and no lures to buy in store from 1st day 🙁

[tidal apex]

And treat all rng features like a plague to avoid at all costs because nothing in there is true to stated odda

[cursive vessel]

I assume you bought stuff from the store?
My main is kicking out only bios after I bought the bait, my farm is still giving me bait cause I haven't bought any extra bait etc

Did the same last time too 😅

[tidal apex]

So... As long as you dont buy anything it works and gives normal drops?

Must test it next time

[visual lagoon]

One more thing, Bait number is so less , He have more coin but out of buying. premium bait is 1 item🤕

[forest kiln]

I dont think it's gonna happened. Assuming you get 10K coins in 2-3 years to buy that 8K KOH skin, max we will be able to obtain is around 300-400 of that new coins per month.

[stable anvil]

Rather those special koth coins instead of being 2:1 should be 1:5then you get an even ratio

I just did the math

[cursive vessel]

Well, i dunno but my main was giving me baits etc until I bought extra bait. My farm is still giving me bait and I've not bought anything extra but it did the same last time it was on too so 🤷‍♀️
Could be a coincidence I suppose

[tardy night]

This why CM hiding lolol

[stable anvil]

You would need 40k special koth coins to convert to new currency to get the stupid hq skin tjat cost 20k

[stable anvil]

This is literally 2.5 times the value it has now

[visual lagoon]

So, what still we have SLmod

[tardy night]

Sleeper mods

[stable anvil]

They hiding too

Rather they are running

[tame oxide]

what.s the point on getting all those coins and no bait left? boosts are useless without bait/lures 😡

[cursive vessel]

They're avoiding here cause they knew we'd be complaining 🤣

[tardy night]

Slmods are simply the ones who earned the privilege of hiding and sending others to act as wall lmao.

[tidal apex]

Dont forget to use this, free biocaps essentially

[rocky otter]

It’s better to buy behemoth skill badge than just %2.5 attack power hq skin I think

[visual lagoon]

reduce their number from 2 to 1

[visual lagoon]

ok

[tardy night]

Currently yes, but immediately 1 of 2 things happen.

1. It's called a bug, and prices increase after 5 minutes of letting their besties convert

2. It's kept in and they drop a new companion or stabilizer set

[tidal apex]

Guys you are all looking at wrong thing in that shop...

Just compare skin prizes to other stuff. Like tempest skill rerolls or stabilizers. No sane person would prize a skin at 80 skill rerolls or 80 stabilizers

[rocky otter]

never in the best interest of the players 😂

[tidal apex]

Live server will have everything different

[tardy night]

You're forgetting that the skin is not for us. It's for the .1%

[rocky otter]

Better to be. There are 5 behemoth potions, frags, bio batteries. Can’t do anything with them 🤣

[tidal apex]

Those stabilizers used to be like 100$+ for one, no way they suddenly make it so easy to get them for free. Those who spent thousands would all quit

[stable anvil]

Exactly most have ultra maxed and soon they are releasing t.a skills of your choice

[stable anvil]

They still spend money now

You are spending not for later but for now to be strong

[cursive vessel]

Everything comes to us little folk eventually 😂

[rocky otter]

It happening bro. And no one quitting. Better to used to it. You can get stabilizers so cheap in 777 event. And can get wings easly in pearl shop. It’s not like old day anymore 🤣🤣

[stable anvil]

Thats the same with t12 research, they reduced the price by 30 percent for most of us to have spent the extra 30 percent we could have saved, same with saving 50 percent on monkey frags and bio batteries for them to introduce new easier methods for upgrade

[rocky otter]

They will make easier for behemoth gen 1. Not for gen 2. Gen 2 wil be easier when gen 3 arrived😂

[tidal apex]

Cheaper than it used to be but not cheap, only one available to f2p is first mk1 skill. Others are 40k and I do not get anywhere near that number

[tardy night]

Chief gear cost what, 3k to max when it came out?

[cursive vessel]

They change what to spend on, so when something new comes out, the older stuff works its way down to the people at the bottom.

[stable anvil]

Spenders spend to be strong now rather than on a chance 5 to 6 month later for it to be reduced

[stable anvil]

Yeah and now people can max badges faster

That took long time too

[tardy night]

F2p aren't going anywhere near those stabilizers. Biobatteries don't magically appear for them.

This is for the mid spends

[rocky otter]

Yes that’s what I mean. Gen 1 wil be so much easier to upgrade but not gen 2. It will be easier when gen 3 comes

[stable anvil]

Gen 3 is out and they will not bring it in effortless reduction so dont count on that

[rocky otter]

It’s not real behemoth 😂

[stable anvil]

Still its called gen 3

You dont see a third spot under the other 2

Too much clutter to have 5 behemoths running on the screen with an aircraft and the march skin going at the same time and the companion

[tardy night]

It's better than some f2p behemoths when maxed

[stable anvil]

I would still say get the stabilizer because bio batteries will come out

[analog jackal]

stop giving devs advice how to rip players off!!!!!

[tidal apex]

Well if it is really true prizing and I will be able to get stabilizers for free then I would be really happy. Maybe I would stop loosing millions whenever one of the 1500+ morale monsters attack 🤣

My take on this is that it is unrealistic, prizes do not make sense, item amounts as well. Like who needs 100 stabilizers every 15 days but only 5 behemoth fragments?

[tardy night]

It's a 1 time reward to bend you over more

[stable anvil]

We still dont know where rhe silver hero badges will come from

[rocky otter]

Yes it’s strong . It has stats and skills but I mean it’s not a behemoth with 5 strong skills and with too many littles and expensive as hell 😂

[rocky otter]

Would be wonderful if get one stabilizer like every 2 months 🤣

[tardy night]

Hitting the 4th March of whales who don't have behemoth you'll see how good the companions can be even against decent mid behemoths.

[analog jackal]

you people are unreal🤮

[wide wraith]

matching will definitely need to improve in RR/KoTH and not have the same state 4 times in a row for the Arena junk

[cursive vessel]

Companions are nice but I can't upgrade them and my behemoths 😅

So something has to take priority

[tardy night]

You are assuming they are noobs who can't think of it if we don't say it here. These designs don't materialize without someone recognising pros and cons

They direct where our progress goes. And it's their job to know beforehand where it might lead

[analog jackal]

all events people complain gets only way worse! people are totally stupid

people i mean devs and players alike

[tardy night]

The biggest mistake we do is think of these scum as newbies. No they are professional scum, trained for years in leeching.

[tidal apex]

They are geniuses in designing things that gets people to spend money. And really bad at designing games :p

[tidal apex]

Thats missplaced anger. People who complained noone of them asked for events to be worse. It is FP who made it that way

[analog jackal]

it's because they stupid.. they live in wonderland and have no idea how life works

consequences!!

[west fog]

I've reported it already two months ago to CS. This is what I got from them. Translation: doesn't has priority. I've got nothing more to add.

[tidal apex]

As soon as possible in FP language means in few years or never

[tardy night]

I'm sorry, do you shut up and bend over every time someone asks?

Or do you give them lube ?

You're so afraid of consequences eh

[analog jackal]

I actually use brain.. unlike most

[tardy night]

So lube it is

[analog jackal]

arguing here .. not smart.. see ya never

[west fog]

They've clearly decided to not care about QoL and eject as many new events as possible all over us instead. One makes more money in the short term, the other doesn't.

[tardy night]

We shall wait for your letter of complaints to the funplus board

[tidal apex]

You are being so manipulated that you are mad at people who made good suggestions instead of FP who made things worse and you do not even see that

[tardy night]

Or maybe you wax eloquent on the loo. To a wall. Cuz everywhere else it doesn't get heard

"consequences" damn...

Afraid of a pixel game lolol

[stable anvil]

Im still waiting for the ability to recycle my thousands of rusty and ghost frags

I remember devs saying they will optimize the recycling for those and purple frags but they cut them off when we had ranking events that gave gold frags and bios, but seeing as those are somewhat given freely can we get them exchanged for skin tickets would be nice.

[west fog]

Soon™

[stable anvil]

In FUNPLUS language that means never

That was said like more than 1 year ago

[west fog]

Oh! So it was already said before it was said this year as if it was new?

[tidal apex]

They are making extermely innovatove game for generations to come. What is mere few years when it will be your grandkids who will be finishing maxing behemoths on your account

[west fog]

Seems like they're doing a reset every year, eliminating all knowledge and feedback they've gathered in the previous year. Terminators may be involved.

[tame harbor]

Hello

I have multiple accounts on one account

[stable anvil]

Well it depends on the state age

[tame harbor]

The question is, can I delete each account separately or is it not possible?

[tardy night]

Contact cs and ask them to separate accs

[stable anvil]

After those special 7 day ranking event that gave gold frags and 20k bios daily they said that about frags being recycled and left it like that. So its not a yearly thing

[tame harbor]

When I log into another account and click delete, will it delete all accounts or the account I'm on?

For example, I need to delete two accounts and leave two.

[tardy night]

What do you mean by accounts.

Characters played from single login details?

Or 2 individual different accounts with different login details

Or 2 platforms like Facebook and Google to login with

[tardy night]

Those are characters. Contact customer support to separate them

[tame harbor]

I have four headquarters here, I need to delete two.

In this menu I can delete individually or delete everything here?

[stable anvil]

You should keep them

Just dont login for 60 days and they become useful later

[west fog]

You sure? Issue 2.
#🎬︱developer_feedback message

[tardy night]

.

Mods will have a screenshot for you somewhere on how to delete them via support without affecting other characters.

[tame harbor]

How can I delete two headquarters under the name survivor?

[tardy night]

🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

Служба поддержки может удалить их для вас отдельно. Свяжитесь с ними.

[tame harbor]

I understand, I need to contact support, I can’t delete it myself

[stable anvil]

Yeah the event for recycle was more than a year ago, it just tickets being pushed to remind them but again they further say we will do it but never see it

[tame harbor]

Thanks

[west fog]

Why would they make it sound as if they've just discovered it? Because they 'Forgot™', that's why.

[stable anvil]

We been mentioning it over and over, like they are practically giving more free frags so how have they not noticed we dont have a store to recycle them because they obviously dont play their own game and could care less about something so minimal

[west fog]

BUYING PACKS! YAY!

[lean leaf]

Fish event is still broken ? Or im just unlucky not getting any bait for days..

[still tapir]

There is a cap on baits.

[marble grove]

Well so close

[lean leaf]

And where does it say that or how much ? All i see different bait amounts and quality as possible rewards depending on lvl

If there is a limit then name it lol

“Possible rewards” ain’t really possible then

Whats even the point of showing baits as possible rewards if it being possible =0.00%

[west fog]

Made it full without spending. There was some kind of super offer where you could unlock every second stage with bios. But it disappeared suddenly and this board was shown instead yesterday. They do as they wish.

Also didn't have the red dot, so only discovered it shortly before it disappeared.

But don't be sad, only missed a couple of legendary frags and gene boosters, so useless stuff for your state age.

[west fog]

Because pushing you to buy bait instead. Manipulation.

[marble grove]

For my state age? Genes are new and yellow cost blue attempts 🤣 and gold frags good for skills

[pallid willow]

Is there a set time where trash pluton appears or not really

[west fog]

5 or 10 frags iirc and genes is gambling. Ergo useless.

[west fog]

RNGBNCBSKIITFS
(rng but no chance because some kill it in the first second)

[pallid willow]

I hate it

Sometimes i wanna use shtt in other account and by the time i switch garbage died

[west fog]

That's their goal. They feed on your hate. They're the dark side.

[still tapir]

It does not day but most people stop getting lures a day or 2 ago. I think with my alt and mains both got somewhere between 400-500 basic baits and 80-100 epic.

[still tapir]

True and they got me to do it but got just about 60k for the store with $14. Would be nice to continue getting baits so I can get a few skins 😅

[west fog]

Just read a german store review for another title of theirs that ended with "Sometimes I get the feeling they're doing it on purpose"
It's adorable and sad at the same time.

[rocky otter]

when i always see notification about pluton appers and go to there but i never saw pluton. is there something there or nothing 🤣 🤣 🤣

[west fog]

Don't be that guy 😂

[tardy night]

They do not have any insiders playing the game who get anything the rest don't see and it's always just bugs when such stuff pops up out of nowhere

We have only seen it repeat for 5 odd years now

[rocky otter]

what happened plasma mega spin event? i saw many times in old states but we didnt never get it

[west fog]

We got plasma surge this week for the first time iirc in 1277, has comparable rewards without spending.

[rocky otter]

im in 1060. we got it several times but not much. it would be nice if we get more event for poly plasma

[cloud ridge]

A lot of those events or some just poof and never seem to come back

[patent olive]

Jungle gems now rigged???

[west fog]

Always was, just got worse.

[patent olive]

Jungle gems way worst than before

[rocky otter]

yeah they poof like a never exist

[patent olive]

It only appears when P15 comes and only once

[rocky otter]

we got for 2 months maybe more but never get it

[thorny latch]

Hello! Nothing has changed since the last update What exactly happened?

[cloud ridge]

BIOS!

That's what

[patent olive]

Probability rate for Biocaps, that's all

[cloud ridge]

Sick of just getting bios

Rant over 😌

[rocky otter]

im actually pretty lucky this round but got only 2 bombs so much bios

[patent olive]

Better add Diamonds there than Biocaps

[cloud ridge]

If they added an option to buy buffs with bios I'd be down, also, i would like them to add the collect passive rewards option like fishing

[west fog]

[cloud ridge]

So even more bios 😏

[rocky otter]

add 100 diamonds instead of 1k bios. and then we will always get digger 🤣 🤣 🤣

[thorny latch]

I'd say it's random, but most people don't believe it. Anyway, there's been no official change😕 I'm sorry if the event ruined your mood

[prisma plume]

I just want the collection to be the same. Either go off UTC hour or 1 hr collection timer. Prefer UTC hour tho

[patent olive]

But it's higher than 60% unlike 2 months ago way worst than this

[rocky otter]

it makes so confuse. every event has different. jungle is utc hour, mine and fish 1 hr collection. so easy to confuse and miss rewards

[prisma plume]

Yes exactly. And UTC hour is easier. You can just collect whenever and don't ever lose time

[rocky otter]

yes agreed other events should be UTC hour like jungle event

[west fog]

Glad to hear that machines can't break down anymore in the apocalypse. At least one positive aspect about it.

And 574 people don't know yet.

[tardy night]

gotta hope its just a ptr change and live will be different. cuz jeez.

[west fog]

Doesn't have to do with believe, but simple observation. Day one is always generous on idle rewards, rest of days have a lowered chance. If you play it all every week, you'll notice it easily.

And maybe nobody has thought of it yet, but it could be that mods have different settings applied to them, as part of the reward package. Just a thought.

[west fog]

Deducting from experience, live will be or get quickly even worse.

[digital glacier]

Any chance you can send that file up me?

I have mostly all of it already 🤷 just being lazy 🤣

[tardy night]

Ye but my gut feeling is that it changes. Cuz they priced advanced alloy high for some reason. Chief gear stuff priced high doesn't make sense at all

[digital glacier]

It's 10:1 when should be 1:10

Actually 1:80 🤣

[thorny latch]

No, we don't have any privileges
And the first day, I only got one bomb🙄

[west fog]

Are you spending or have been?

And you've got a bomb for free? Lucky fox.

Would you at least acknowledge that fishing is definitely rigged like that?

[thorny latch]

I buy a pickaxe, but only the first three sets.
This time I'm very unlucky and I didn't get any bombs yesterday, only once, at the end of the day🥲

[thorny latch]

How, exactly?

[vale yoke]

What shenanigans are happening here?

[digital glacier]

How much bait you get day 2 or 3 🤔🤣

[thorny latch]

I remember getting a blue bait once on day 2, don't remember much else

[digital glacier]

Ngl. I love how it is 🥰

Jungle gems is a different story though

[cloud ridge]

Fishing is just 100% bios, but i don't mind in fishing

[cloud ridge]

In gems 24/7 bios makes me wanna die

[digital glacier]

I get better rewards fishing than I do jungle gems.

And I get more bio in fishing than I do jungle gems 🤣

[west fog]

Read all the posts here (also back in the past) about only getting bios from day 2 or so. That should mean something.

[digital glacier]

Who cares. Cause When they remove bio from fishing. Everyone gonna be crying

[last hazel]

[unreal lichen]

Conversion Rate for rr and svs coins to new store is 10 to 1 and for KotH 5 to 1

[last hazel]

Like that

[unreal lichen]

you can check new store here #🖥︱videos_of_survival message

[digital glacier]

Catch rate of fish is 💩 if it ain't gold bait, your basically getting nothing 🤣

[west fog]

It's not about bios, it's about it being rigged. Would love to see at least one mod to acknowledge it. But guess their agreement forbids them to do so.

[digital glacier]

Who cares if it's "rigged"

[cloud ridge]

They replace fishing bios with resources crates

[thorny latch]

No, I just don't agree with it

[digital glacier]

If they do that, it'll be 2 days if me not visiting that event 🤣

[west fog]

So what do you say to all those players making that experience regularly?

[cloud ridge]

The mods are correct

It's just us, the players that are wrong

[digital glacier]

Mods are obligated not to "talk bad" about sos
And saying something in sos is "rigged" is talking bad about sos.

[west fog]

Which always pivots in "it's random", which is a running gag at this point.

[cloud ridge]

Just as random as the mods we're players just like you response

[last hazel]

Didn't get a single fishing bait in this fishing Challenge.
But good thing is I crossed 2m bios which I'm very happy

[vale yoke]

[thorny latch]

I do not have accurate information on the operation of this event and cannot answer players with certainty. Therefore, this is just my opinion and personal experience. That's the only reason I don't agree

[digital glacier]

Lots of stuff is rigged in sos.
Like how all my f2p alts have a 75% rare ascension rate.
My main, less than 7%

Reforging
Alts 60%
Main 30%

Its like that for many many people.

[last hazel]

Okay, I will call my main an alt from now on.

[digital glacier]

Let me rephrase that,
How much you spend 🤔

[west fog]

So don't you ever wonder why they are keeping you guys in the dark as well? You're supposed to be their representatives in a way after all.

[vale yoke]

LMAO

HaBe

[last hazel]

Not much if it wasn't for jungle Gems

[digital glacier]

Not much = relative to something else... Like income or something. 🤷

Vague answer 🙄

[vale yoke]

Mods are company representatives in the same way shift supervisors are part of the company, meaning they're as hands off as they can be.
They're allowed to express negative opinions about things done in game some just choose not to or choose to focus on things they have experienced.

Not everything is one huge conspiracy, only some. Only some.

They're just volunteers so the company can keep costs lower and not have to have accountability as easily.

It's like complaining to the cashier

[west fog]

I was getting somewhere on purpose, but you ruined it.

[vale yoke]

I mean, you can if you want, but they just mod here

[thorny latch]

I'm just playing the game like a commoner, not trying to find a catch. I don't know how bad or good that is. But this event we're talking about is completely satisfactory for me as a player right now. As a moderator I can't give you exact answers, because I can't know all the mechanics of how it works☹️

[digital glacier]

@vale yoke good at doing that 🤪

[vale yoke]

I am

And I enjoy doing it

Momma always said to do what I enjoy and then it never feels like work

[west fog]

Actually, I can accept that

[digital glacier]

So that's why I enjoy life so much when I laugh at idiots 🤣

[vale yoke]

And now to make a pumpkin roll. Remember: mods are mods, not food. Eat sweets, not mods.

[digital glacier]

We eat cows. And deer. And squirrels. And snakes. Some eat cats and dogs and other furry critters. Why not mods, 🤷

[west fog]

I never would. A discussion isn't a hunt nor a feast. No need to be protective alpha wolf mama here.

[digital glacier]

A deer is like a great Dane ain't it just bigger 🤷🤣

[thorny latch]

Don't, they can be unpalatable😕

[west fog]

I'll go to that other place now where things are still garden eden full of virgin stuff.

[digital glacier]

Don't eat the brain. That causes issues. 👍

To be clear. That's not an insult to mods intelligence. It's a legit thing. There's an enzyme or a type of bacteria or something the Grey matter I believe that is bad

[west fog]

Prions, causing Mad Cow Desease and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease

[digital glacier]

Yeah, that.

Prions, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease

[thorny latch]

Oh, we saw a very interesting movie about Kuru in medical school

But I seem to be straying from the theme of this section

[west fog]

Just saw a documentary about that too, that's why I remember and don't have to Google that word now 😸

[digital glacier]

It's ok. I'm sure medical school might have taught you what's morally edible vs edible 🤣

[west fog]

Zombies eat brains. Act gotten together.

[thorny latch]

Medical school taught me to be calm and nonchalant But brains still don't taste good

[digital glacier]

Just think. If more people ate dogs and cats and mods, it would be normal and acceptable by society 🤣

Unless you're a dog, cat, or mod 🤣

[tardy night]

Plausible deniability and costs

[cold geode]

@thorny latch hey Sorrow

[thorny latch]

Hello

[dense lava]

Hello. I just wanted to make a note - its literally impossible to get a random matching in Desert survival. Event is nearly over, i managed to play it maybe 3 or 4 times... and i really tried

its like a non existent event for like 90% of players

i just cant sit by the phone for over 5 minutes waiting for the matching..and then try again

[west fog]

Could be that many players stopped playing it. You can't create participants out of thin air. And don't ask for bots filling the places. Path of Water has shown what it would be like.

[dense lava]

Well probably... they stopped playing cos they cant play. If matching is fixed in a sense that u can actually get a match, more ppl would play it. Also - once you get crazy lucky and find a team, u have 2 exact same chat windows... but they are not the same... abs no one knows where to write and communicate

[west fog]

Actually thought the other way. Many may have stopped playing it because it's not very well fleshed out (either the monster always wins or the experienced humans team always wins) and store items isn't worth the time.
So did I.

[wide wraith]

only ever played Desert Survival 2 times twice as a monster, once as part of a team, didnt make any sense so havent bothered again, didnt even know it was on this time

[tardy night]

Small state group - 30 states - 5k players. Spread across multiple time zones - you're trying to match maybe 100 or so people who might be at other concurrent matches.

And they definitely have some unwritten rule on a certain tier not getting more matches after a fixed count per day

[stable cosmos]

I played it once. It wasn't fun enough for more than that. Probably missing out on stuff but my time is worth more than f---plus credits and i won't waste it on boring tat.

Preferred golgoroth as a team event. At least there anyone could play and do fine for the stuff it gave you

[vivid topaz]

Vacation mode

I'm going to miss it a lot here at the beginning of December, because I have to go to the hospital and won't be able to come online for a few days. And on that very weekend I'll have SvS in 3 states and would need a protection time of several days for my base, because I'm a PC player and can't really take it with me to the hospital.

[tepid rivet]

Ask governors for forced eviction and those 3 accounts and don't log again. You'll be send into limbo where no one can find you until you log again

[vivid topaz]

I can't do that. In my oldest state, the leading guild is a toxic guild. They would destroy my two bases there before the SvS. And in the other two states, unfortunately, two guilds have also formed that take the view: "Fight if you want bunkers, etc." You don't ask such guilds for forced eviction.

[cloud ridge]

If you have wallbreakers port to capital zone and get peeps to wallbreak your bases

Then you'll be voided that way, if your gov is a knob

[stable cosmos]

As long as you don't login post port that is. Drop tags if you'd like alliance help

[digital glacier]

If you're getting alliance help.
Drop tag.
Apply back to alliance.
log out.
Have your alliance wall destroy your base.
Have r4/5 approve application. This way you can get alliance rank rewards and stuff while you're offline.

[cloud ridge]

1 for 2000 diamonds

also dev feedback useless

[hollow zinc]

Is there any use to the manor except try to make a housing lol?

[stable cosmos]

More space to dump statues

Dump being a very important word there

[hollow zinc]

It's useless if it doesn't give a bonus like the island.

[digital glacier]

It was useful before the change in how splendor is earned. Etc etc.
Now it's just a house 🤷
That sometimes gets visited when claiming all mail rewards 🤣

[visual frigate]

Another ascension, another blaze inferno. This is just taking the mickey.

I now have a full house of useless skills - 2xlethal landmine, 2xblaze inferno, 1xscorched terrain. All compromised skills countered easily by anti-burn stuff.

[pallid willow]

Where else besides migo store can we get gen 3 badges for craft?

[visual frigate]

Do you mean certificates of honour?

[marble grove]

Woohoo 1m bios in backpack 😂

[pallid willow]

Noo for tempest

[visual frigate]

oh right.

there was somewhere else

oh, levelling up the water nexus gives them

[worldly sable]

Jungle gems is being a huge hobo and I hate everything

[visual frigate]

Plus ça change

[pallid willow]

Ohh yea i forgot ty 🙈

[west fog]

sigh

sigh²

Is it currently babyface month?

[digital glacier]

2-69 is much better

[digital glacier]

She's really been pouring on that makeup lately

[west fog]

And Maddie looks like she's doing a reenactment of Benjamin Button. Diapers inbound.

[marble grove]

Yeah well, I spent 600k or so on rays last sotf 🤣

[digital glacier]

I spent 800k bio on vip 13 this throwdown 🤣 and I max rays sound all 3 days last event.

[stable cosmos]

We don't talk about bios

[thorny plume]

Just need to mention, you guys are kind of diks @merry scroll

Why not sell us the right Sentinel in the Pearl store? 🤷

And business wise probably not a great idea.

Its better if 2000 people buy the Sentinel from crates then 20 000 people spend on pearls to buy the Sentinel and or new pearls when they run out ? Assuming it would have had a high Pearl cost

People would still buy

[tardy night]

Saberlot been reassigned to oversee absentation at another fart+ title. All complaints go to Nanami 👀

[forest kiln]

Rethorical question? Same with why just not return general sentinel frags to pearl store... we have tons of useless frags from different sentinel now and no way to craft it

[stable anvil]

Need to push on those surprise task

Except devs need to first work out those who are using pc to their advantage to outpace others who are doing the same task manually

Maybe a suggestion is remove surprise task on pc that way it gives a equal playing field

[forest kiln]

I'm using PC... there is no advantage to it

[stable anvil]

Their is

If you are using a specific program you can do quick taps faster than the human response timing

Thats how people when doing rain of riches when they tap once it auto clicks for 25 tap to 40 taps

[forest kiln]

If your internet speed is 💩 there is no advantage

[tardy night]

Mods be lurking, so deleting this 👀

[stable anvil]

You know they are and then 99.9 percent of the other important stuff is being ignored

[forest kiln]

🤣 Same thoughts... ppls say about some mythical PC users "advantages" , forgetting that all platforms have this "advantages"

[tardy night]

They can only moderate.

[sullen osprey]

@merry scroll You guys could have started the damn operation festival on monday for f sake

[tardy night]

Instead of a time based fastest fingers first to determine winners, what they could do is have all people complete a task, then whoever did the task enters a draw for allocation of ten sentinel items.

More fair to account for latency and time zones.

But fart+ & fairness do not a couple make

[sullen osprey]

Imagine if they made the idle time from 6 to 8 hours in events like jungle gem, we could sleep peacefully lmao

[forest kiln]

Why this purple 💩 in gold crates even

[digital glacier]

Easy to do if the event loaded at reset 💯% of the time and was able to be completed without having to reload the game

[jolly harness]

Y'all know saberlot isn't CM anymore right

[sullen osprey]

Yeah I know haha, he replied only once in a 1year

[stable cosmos]

May as well ask why that completely brand spanking new hot air balloon thing offered chief XP. Devs don't understand their game or the value of items at all.

[thorny plume]

100 percent. Same with jungle gems. If they could announce a day in advance like they do in MANY events they dont need to announce in advance as ie it doesnt matter if you check rays casino at reset or noon.
But with jungle gems its essential to start it early to get the full potential reward. I dont spend on jungle gems if I miss the first 8 - 12 hours.

Why cant they announce that event ?

Not a penny is spendt when I miss time and I am guessing I am not the only one and it is a event i gladly drop 20-30 euro in.

Wait, im cheap. Make it 20.

[cloud ridge]

They are awful at announcing events, even their own calender for gems before was wrong as they released it a day earlier than stated

[lavish heron]

Am I the only one who has just been getting coins and bios for the last two full idle turns of gems??

If it’s a way to prompt me to buy more axes, that won’t work. I’ve spent tons this week with all their events.

[vernal moss]

Hi chief, i've seen a handful of people mentioning this. It does seem that there has been an unlucky round of jungle gems, there doesn't seem to be any announced changes but we never know.
I'd encourage to share your thoughts on this in #📋︱feedback-reporting and how you feel about the biocap reward being so common.

[vernal moss]

I too remember this, i don't think anyone really looks at the calendar anymore as it doesn't show future events for players to plan ahead.

It would be great to have a better schedule for these so the calendar is valuable to us. Have you ever considered making a #📋︱feedback-reporting about it for us to know what's incoming?

[vernal moss]

To have these events announced ahead of time would be great, i did mention just now regarding the calendar being more valuable to us to have these events shown for the future so we can plan accordingly.
What would you think of this idea?

[vernal moss]

The issue about having to restart the game suddenly is pretty unprofessional on server end. I think many of us, if not all has had this issue on day 1.

[vernal moss]

This would be helpful if we could recycle these purple fragments appropriately, but seeing this in gold crates is sad. It's good to see you got the statue though, congrats!

Regarding the reward pool, perhaps make a #📋︱feedback-reporting about it to keep it with the times. Gene boosters for instance, since you get the blue ones from just scouting and deploying.

[vernal moss]

This is a great idea, why not post this in #📋︱feedback-reporting.
A long shot, but we have already received an increase already.

We all need more sleep for the amount of demand the game has on us 🙈

[vale yoke]

My only concern with altering idle times is that the devs might consider an alternate schedule to UTC, meaning that they could start an idle-earning event later on any given day with no explanation and start idle timers from that time, which would overlap them with other timers making people log in more often to collect those.

So if we write feedback about expanding timers from 6 to 8 hours - which I appreciate as an idea personally - we should really make it clear that we have the expectation and requirement for idle-earning events to start on time, at reset as well.

We can't leave them loopholes.

[cursive vessel]

6 hours is better than the 3 hours it was, so I'm kinda happy with 6 😅

[vale yoke]

Truth

3 hours just felt rude lol

[cursive vessel]

Yeah, it was like who needs to sleep or work 😂

[vale yoke]

Exactly! And some folks set alarms. No idea how they managed that, but omg more power to them. I'd have thrown my phone every single time it made a noise lol

Broken sleep isn't good for mental and physical health, so I'm glad devs extended it longer

[sullen osprey]

I set alarms too, many people do from my alliance, but 8hour idle time would be a bit more comfortable ngl..

[vale yoke]

Not just comfortable in general, but also easier to align with people's gameplay regardless of their personal schedules. I see a lot of benefits to expanding it once more in terms of player experience.

From there, it's having to convince the devs that expanding it won't result in reduced participation or revenue streams as compared to what they've gotten from being 6 hours. What would prevent stagnation some, do you think?

[cursive vessel]

I just feel like, once things are at an acceptable level we need to stop asking them to change things 🤣

Cause they always screw it up

[vale yoke]

I do agree, but we could also always present it as an option for later development of the idle content, or how they can adapt events when they start to show tell-tale signs of stalling out.

We could also address event stores, in terms of future development or adapting items or rewards and how a final timer expansion may allow them to offer better goods, maybe?

We basically have to sell them the idea because otherwise it's additional work to delegate that they have no real justification for other than "we want it". We want a lot of things lol

God knows I want a goat and my dev chat

[marble grove]

Yes bombs are extremely nice but come on give me some picks 😂

[vale yoke]

[silent pike]

Some horizontal rockets would be nice aswell

[merry frost]

I had one account like this and one with normal 6 hrs rewards.

[marble grove]

Thank you game

[marble grove]

Have 6 in store

[silent pike]

If you have to buy then buying 1 horizontal rocket is cheaper then having to buy 6 axes. But getting them from the idle rewards is always better

[marble grove]

Or just spend 89p on picks rather than 1k coins on 2 slots 🤣

Keep the rockets for the 1 slot gem

Also, these tickets may aswell just be rss boxes

[silent pike]

That's another option 😂

[silent pike]

They kind of are if you don't have the baits .
I found a feedback report regarding the fishing challenge shop you might want to upvote https://discordapp.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606/1312328201288028210

[cloud ridge]

No, generally cause I cba making one and they'll never do it.

[cloud ridge]

Bios in gems is awful on its own 😇

[marble grove]

No this is timer store, so even with no baits it's rss unless you really don't wanna use bios

[pallid willow]

I've kept getting rockets and bombs every claim rewards except for one time since the event began, stop the crying

[jolly harness]

[cloud ridge]

No

I will keep crying whilst I keep getting 24/7 bios

[pallid willow]

Great then keep crying until devs take out biocaps and leave you only with the claim coins then you'll be happy 🙂

[cloud ridge]

I'll be happy with coins and buffs yes

Buffs I can actually use yes

I have nothing against bios, I have everything against only getting bios

[pallid willow]

Just an example that you may just be unlucky, doesn't mean the event is broken.

[cloud ridge]

When it's literally 24/7 no

[thorny plume]

People need to realize its time to stab soon

[cloud ridge]

😏

[pallid willow]

Ive had 24/7 rockets and bombs 🙂

[cloud ridge]

Good, I'd like that as well

But, that is not the case

So whine I shall

[thorny plume]

Thats dumb... Pretty dumb

[pallid willow]

Well you complaining about biocaps wont change you not getting them lol you will be left with only the coins and you know that's going to happen, there wont be more bombs and rockets added at all

[thorny plume]

Either dumb af or just evil that guy called jawor that broke good events for us all

[pallid willow]

What did he do?

[thorny plume]

People that keep talking about the bio is about as useful as that wad of tp getting stuck in a stench clench

[pallid willow]

They be crying asf once devs take them out while also not increasing the bombs and rockets spawn ratio lmao

[thorny plume]

He kept bringing up how we could get free rewards just listing Tempest materials.. now thats gone because of him and everyone here who talks about the bio is just like him

So shut the f up already

[thorny plume]

Probably, and thats what will happend. I guess people that are not smart dont understand that they are not smart

[cloud ridge]

I will still complain 😇

I won't make feedback or owt, as I understand situation and bios is good, but...

And he did on purpose for reporting to CS yes about tempest

[sullen osprey]

On the first day

[solemn kraken]

just because some people get lucky with the picks, doesn't mean that others are not lucky and don't get any extras

[sullen osprey]

Even if I'm unlucky I can make it to lv27 as f2p..

[cloud ridge]

It's a great event regardless of drops

[jolly harness]

Male karen

[cloud ridge]

But, its annoying nonetheless

[cloud ridge]

I am with gems yes

[warm gazelle]

I'm getting kick out of the game every few minutes

[sullen osprey]

From the fishing event..

[cloud ridge]

That's a feature

[jolly harness]

That's the new detox feature

[warm gazelle]

I see it pissing me off

[sullen osprey]

So it's like rehab isn't it

[warm gazelle]

Can't do anything about it

[sullen osprey]

You will get used to it! Then you will eventually quit 😂

[cloud ridge]

Poof

[jolly harness]

[warm gazelle]

I'm was about break my damn phone

Lol

[cloud ridge]

Sometimes if I login through a different way it seems to make a difference when game is not gaming.

But generally if it doesn't want to work it won't

Which is often

[sullen osprey]

That will solve the problem, it did it for me too when I played with geometry dash as a kid

[warm gazelle]

😂😂😂

[solemn kraken]

try doing that with a Nokia

RIP hammer

[sullen osprey]

Only if it's a Nokia 3310

[warm gazelle]

My is a Nokia

Lol

[sullen osprey]

That's a sign

[vale yoke]

A reminder that there is a #1185742923258663032 area which is not in feedback discussion

[solemn kraken]

which hasn't been touched in over a year...

[sullen osprey]

Reminder that we don't care

[warm gazelle]

Yes mine is definitely a piece of s***

[vale yoke]

Someone had to say it so when people inevitably whine about being modded for it, I have something to point to when I laugh and say "told you so"

[cloud ridge]

Mute

[warm gazelle]

😂😂

[vale yoke]

#1185742923258663032 message

[sullen osprey]

I'm sure you were bullied in school

[vale yoke]

Over a year? Someone has a harder time with calendars then I do.

But not as difficult with spelling

[warm gazelle]

😂😂

[vale yoke]

Thanks Motorola, you're a real one 🫠

Gonna have to get a button that just goes whomp whomp. Good for staying humble

[warm gazelle]

Basically you're saying my phone's a piece of s***

😂😂

[sullen osprey]

But is it though?

[vale yoke]

Basically I'm saying my thumbs go too fast and my autocorrect only catches it half the time

The other half it makes up words

Which is hilarious

The predictive text is even more fabulous

[warm gazelle]

And Google Mike is not doing any much better

[vale yoke]

It's a two year old phone, we ain't mad

[sullen osprey]

My chinese phone is doing better I guess

[warm gazelle]

I had a Moto g before this one I had nothing but problems with it too

[vale yoke]

My free upgrade phone does what it's supposed to until my next free upgrade.

[warm gazelle]

When they say free upgrade they lie to you

[vale yoke]

Mine is awesome actually. It just has user error

[warm gazelle]

Definitely not free

[sullen osprey]

Yeah you pay for the package and you get the phone "free" 😂

[vale yoke]

Lmao I used to sell contract phones, I know the ins and outs. It was said with a hefty helping of irony.

[warm gazelle]

😂😂😂

My phone company is Metro

[vale yoke]

snort dang. I used to sell that. Great for truckers

Sprint used to be great too, had a company plan through them and it was top tier

[warm gazelle]

Metro company is very terrible too

Florida

[vale yoke]

Yeah well, look at the coverage map. They'll tell you that you have coverage, but it's just an approximation.

[warm gazelle]

😂😂

[vale yoke]

They all do it. If their service has ever come in there, they can say they have coverage.

Anyway, the phone itself is fine. We have a rapport, me and Squishy. But the game, however, likes to believe it's more important than some standard apps like the Moto Game Mode. Or, you know, my System UI - which I'm sure isn't a cause for concern at all.

It used to just force close my antivirus lol I guess I didn't need that considering the permissions the game accesses

Like hey, I know we have no actual anonymity to these companies and that our data is shared with God knows who by whomever hides the fine print well enough in the terms of service most people don't even read, but I do want to have the security blanket of ignorance.

Be force closing things, like I'm sorry SoS, you're not that special.

I can't even listen to my Spotify while playing because the game's like "this processor is all mine, cope." It even decides to drop my phone calls, which is fine when it's my mother, but less so when it's my kid's doctor.

[hollow zinc]

We can't upgrade statues in the manor, seriously?

[last hazel]

Mansion?

[cloud ridge]

Upgrade via collections menu, will upgrade statues in mansion

[tame oxide]

Who says you can't?
Click on decorations and then select what you want to upgrade

[west fog]

The community will surely throw a party for you and put you on a throne as soon as you've achieved the goal for everyone you weren't after, just by whining. That's how success always works. You can even get President like that.

[cloud ridge]

I will become next president of whining then

[visual frigate]

Unlucky 10 times in a row?

Nah, it's broken

[cloud ridge]

Honestly I wouldn't say it's broken

Just rigged odds to me

Like fishing, is broken

Cause literally all you get is bios

[west fog]

Nah, it's rigged with special FPH sauce.

Things like that are never broken, it's on purpose. Try to accept that.

[tame oxide]

I like the bios, got almost 800k this week, keep it coming more to burn ar Ray's 🤣

[wide wraith]

better the bios then operation festival

[cursive vessel]

Operation festival with a sentinel most people don't have 😂
There's not 1 person in my alliance with it 🙄

[wide wraith]

thats what i mean give me the bios anyday

[cursive vessel]

Yep, bios are great, i won't ever complain about getting them

[wide wraith]

especially with junkus i mean nexus coming up

[cloud ridge]

More unfair matchmaking

Sentinel is great, if you have the sentinel, making it a premium version and not standard though is a crime

[pallid willow]

I think they make some type of rate to see which sentinels are the less bought or picked and then decide to use it for the sentinel event 😒 dirty devs

[tepid rivet]

What sentinel is it?

We have so many (also many mini events that pop up on different days, times, galaxies but that's another story) so I lost track

[sullen osprey]

😏

[digital glacier]

I hope players to read this and think about all the discussions from all the mentions of biocaps and how they hate it being the way it is for the fishing event.

If you're complaining about biocaps - Ask yourself this
Did you used to keep an eye on your Biocap amount before the fishing event was released, and do you now, find yourself not checking it nearly as often or at all??
If the answer is yes, and you're complaining about getting biocaps. ||Please, shut up, you're an idiot, but please keep reading to find out why.||
Ok, well let me break it down for you people especially for GEN SKIP PLAYERS I see complaining about this while also complaining they have bad heroes.

Every event has - good, expensive rewards - average, useful rewards - cheap, crappy rewards
Every event we play to aquire the store currency, sacrifices must be made.
If you want 1 memorial statue instead of 10 hero statues for the same 15,000.
A decision that's your personal choice

I played 22 accounts
minimum 48k scales

Now, let's hypothetically say they remove the bio and give you bait.

So, that's about 161k scales (at my average, which is pretty good tbh)
That essentially makes queen of tides & the band conductor 144k Biocap value.
Ok that's great, but everyone is gonna want them if they can get them that easily, so that makes you no stronger in comparison. And you're sacrificing other rewards for a statue that's probably not going to do much of anything for you.
And you're out of all that bio to easily max rays casino which results in lesser stat heroes, you also have less bio to finish those "pass" rewards if you didn't complete a task, you're probably also going to go back to being a little more cautious on where and how you spend your bio.

So what's better, a small buff from 2 memorial statues, or getting a hero halfway to maxing out purple brain 🤷

[sullen osprey]

Nice copy paste brother

[digital glacier]

Yes, top. Up stuff all week, just to get the sentinel at the end of the event 🤣
Lord help those who do it for the sentinel thinking it'll be worth it for the event

[sullen osprey]

Well, those who would do that already have it 😂

[digital glacier]

Most yes, some no.

[coarse verge]

Omg , bios in fishing event are awesome and I got most growth items

[west fog]

Most people will stop reading where you start with math. Hope you've everything important in the first half.

[digital glacier]

God I forgot. Even the sight of a completed math problem makes people stop reading 🤣

[brisk nova]

I’ll take bios all day for rays place over a small chance at catching a fish to buy a couple vehicle or behemoth crates

[digital glacier]

You probably already bought all the Behemoth crates anyhow 🤣

[brisk nova]

All the vehicle crates this time 😂

[digital glacier]

The extra bait for the vast majority of players would simply be for either some pets stuff, or memorial statues.

Well, I should say those who have tried different things or been told how to get the most out of their bait 🤣
7 accounts I got 60k+

[brisk nova]

I don’t even try to catch fish after I complete the pass tasks. I cycle until I get a gold rated fish and use all attempts on said fish to get 5 shells as opposed to 3 shells on purple fish

[digital glacier]

Trying out some tricks it seems to work.

[digital glacier]

Huh 🤷 5 vs 3 what

Oh, nvm, I got it. It gives 3 when you try to catch a purple fish 👍 but 5 on gold.

[brisk nova]

👍

Probably doesn’t work as well that way on accumulating shells but I’d rather take my chances on catching the gold over purple after I complete the “catch 5 purple” task. I don’t even bother with catching the low tiers, not worth the bait when you calculate how many it costs to catch 30 when a miss on a gold tier fish gives 5 shells

[digital glacier]

I tried it on 4 accounts as a test just doing lowest tier fish. Started with same number of bait.
All of them got between 12.5k - 18k

Where as 4 accounts I did my little tricks on, all got 50k+

[unreal lichen]

What are the tricks?

[west fog]

And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made.
And the sign flashed out its warning,
In the words that it was forming.

[cloud ridge]

I want my bombs!

[brisk nova]

Fishing event = free bio’s with an option of crates/plasma/poly at user discretion

[cloud ridge]

I get tank crates and them dino crates, depending how much scales I have

Fishing is quite good

[brisk nova]

I want those bios lol, makes it way easier to max out heroes for someone like me who is pretty much f2p now other than the occasional buy.

I rue the day we reach the generation where rays moves to a mix of old gen hero crates with new gen crates

[coarse verge]

What tricks?

[cloud ridge]

Rays is annoying, as it's easier to get older gens than current gen... still great and only way to level heros, but still a joke

[west fog]

Ask him in private if you must know. Writing about it here is the worst option. Optimizer squad is always lurking.

[brisk nova]

👆

[coarse verge]

Will do

[west fog]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message
(they don't read text in brackets)

[west fog]

Paying main, f2p alt...?

[tepid rivet]

Devs do selective reading, approximately like this

[rocky otter]

wowww 😳 i never seen it. its always 24k bios for me

[west fog]

Last day of the event, so could be a "dontcha wanna pay some for even more progress?" bait

[digital glacier]

YES!

[brisk nova]

He must be new here

[tepid rivet]

Nah to be fair, all feedback is read like this probably so it doesn't really matter who posts what

(If devs care to read anything at all that is)

[thorny plume]

Do we know anything about the exchange rates of the new stores? I happend to sit on a little coin for KotH and rr.

Whereas this feedback so i can tell everyone with half a brain to downvote?

Nevermind, was last one

[west fog]

Spend it, exchange rate makes it worse. That's at least what I took from info coming from ptr.

[thorny plume]

Oeff, its 500k

[cloud ridge]

Hacks, the devs must have another dirt smudge on their monitor

[west fog]

On the other hand, there's this info. #📋︱feedback-discussion message
Ask your feelings if you want to trust that "fair" part.

[thorny plume]

You raise a excellent point

[brisk nova]

All this tells me is this new store will be much less accessible than the old stores if they are adding in highly sought after items. It will probably take 2 months of coin accumulation to buy one item

[thorny plume]

But if new store is better it could be worth it. Old store was ok for speedups and hero fragments

[hoary flint]

10:1 on svs coins
2:1 on the dragon koth coins
10:1 on RR coins
5:1 on koth betting coins
5:1 on koth normal coins

But this is what it is now in PTR its not 100% sure for live game.

[thorny plume]

Perhaps good for farms to afk farm for needles while team do all the work 🥰

Wow.. 10:1

Thats just insane, why was the word fair even in the sentence up there

[hoary flint]

I dont like the store.

[brisk nova]

So in other words, 1 new store will be worse than the 3 existing stores

[thorny plume]

Well its been a while since we had a good nerf and its soon Christmas

So why not 😂

[west fog]

Ok, that's the exchange rates. But what about new prices for items compared to old ones? Only both things combined enable an informed decision.

[thorny plume]

Its like a opposite Christmas gift, a Christmas bill

[hoary flint]

From what i have seen it will be good for people that are close to max behemoths and heroes. Not for the players with lower behemoths and heroes. In ptr there are no hero capsules in the store but they announced they will add more soon.

[hoary flint]

What old ones? Hero capsules and potions are not in that store so its hard to compare them😅

[west fog]

So they'll keep people in the dark until it's too late I guess. They said they'd give more info on it in a community post, but that could as well happen on Dec. 4th or 5th

[west fog]

Prices for items that they said would stay from the old stores.

[hoary flint]

Let me check the screenshots

Very limited what you can get

But the other store makes it better

But i have to add this is not final store.

[west fog]

Indeed, some items are cheaper (like tactical gear design).
But as you say, we'd need final prices and rates, amount of available items per cycle and amount of new currency earned in events before dec. 4th for making a decision. They can't just expect to have our unconditional trust... gee, made myself laugh now 😂

[hoary flint]

For the low spenders of f2p it will be hard to get batteries for behemoth or hero capsules. After i saw the store i made a feedback about the issue and posted it on ptr server. Lets hope they will see the problem🙏🏼 all we can do now is wait on the final store.

[tepid rivet]

You can play the lottery for me if you have hopes as high as them taking PTR feedback into consideration at all

[digital glacier]

Win lottery, buy sos. Hire the smart people here, not only in terms of business mindset but also for the people mindset as well.
Watch the money flow in like nothing sos devs has ever seen.
😂

[hoary flint]

You didnt vote on my feedback

[west fog]

It kind of reeks of an opportunity for introducing inflation, can't help it.

[hoary flint]

I dont like all updates either but it is what it is and made the decision to stop spending on the game. Gives me less stress about it too. Old states are nice and calm no war and everyone just do their own things to grow. Its a huge difference with new states where they push hard to grow and it starts dying after 2-3 weeks it was opened.

[thorny plume]

That looks awesome tbh ! With 1:10 on 500 k coins Ill have 50k 😂 can buy all needles 7 times over or so

Too good to be true

[hoary flint]

10:1 is different then 1:10🙈

[thorny plume]

Is it ?

Isnt ratio 10:1 same as 1:10 all depending on what unit you place as first unit

[hoary flint]

You give 10 and get 1 back the other one is giving 1 and gives 10 back

[thorny plume]

Yea 🤷

So 500k = 50k

Or 50k new = 500k old

[hoary flint]

Yeah with 500k it doesnt really matter you saved a lot.

[west fog]

What's also important is final amount available per store cycle. It could take you one year to spend it all if amounts are like they're in ptr currently.

[thorny plume]

I have saved up a little yes, hopefully I can convert it to what I need for needles somehow.

3 speedups a week seems a bit low tough

150 years to spend if thats the case

Or so

Not sure if I still play in 150 years really . All depending on how affordable life prolonging tech will be

[west fog]

How about a little bet on if the new store will still be named GAMEPLAY_SHOP_TITLE at release day? I say yes.

[hoary flint]

🤣🤣🤣

Ok then i bet on no.

[west fog]

Me posting my message here may ultimately lead to my loss, but that's fine then 😂

[hoary flint]

If you win you get my booster code.

[raw light]

[graceful steppe]

we need get more fish hear not 1 i got 40k for nothing

[west fog]

You'll get 40k resource crates after the event. That's not nothing.

[graceful steppe]

who need rss they need put more this fish gold one they put only 1 n 10 purplles

[hoary flint]

• over 500k biocaps during the event will be good for Ray's place to get your heroes strong

[graceful steppe]

for bios i agree thats awsome but low amout off fishing in store

[tardy night]

It's crap if it's same as ptr.

Not only for smaller players, for all players. Stabilizers aren't as meaningful anymore and the one good thing in it isn't useful enough to outrank everything nerfed by miles.

You get 10 stat reforge stuff. So in 2 months you can change 1 single new stat of a gen 3 ta. 1 new stat costing 20 essence.

IF you win both svs

They are dangling a carrot of a single time reward with massive punishment to follow it if this indeed doesn't change in live release. Hopefully it will.

[west fog]

Hope always dies last.

[tardy night]

They're not dumb enough to make rr obsolete for everyone but high end spenders but let's see

[west fog]

Never start a sentence like that, you're just asking universe to prove you wrong by that

[tardy night]

I'm speaking from experience. They are greedy, extremely so, but they have never been dumb enough to kill their core game.

[west fog]

While I'm taking this conversation from the funny side, I still seriously want to believe that things can go further downhill if the start wasn't the best to begin with.

[tardy night]

The core game: allowing -current- whales to crush mid to low end freely.

If one component of that equation doesn't show up from crap rewards that core game changes drastically.

And ye things will get worse. Always. But they also always leave a branch to keep you hanging onto.

No turkey to stuff if it's not getting fattened first.

[west fog]

History has shown people sawing off the branch they've been sitting on before, so I won't give up hope.

[tardy night]

Regarding how -worse- it gets ..

[digital glacier]

Those don't change to rss crates. Neither does buying those sonar tickets

[west fog]

I got rss crates for shells and clams last time. Your experience may differ 🤷‍♂️

[west fog]

Oh, looks like a type overflow. Had very high power before?

[west fog]

Those UTC time shenanigans are now getting out of control here

[stable cosmos]

Devs can't tell time. All events should cycle at reset. No shenanigans.

[west fog]

But where in the world do they have 30 hours a day now? Must be a country where working 24 hours a day wasn't enough anymore. Probably somewhere in Asia.

[tardy night]

It isn't. That's the actual loss and will take 105k hours of speeds to recover back.

Power is in the 200 bil range

[west fog]

My bad, I've mistaken that to be power because it says power in front of it

[tardy night]

Ye troop bp loss

Like in our reports its -90 mil or so

Not a type overflow is what I meant. It actually is causing 32 bil power loss.

[brisk nova]

So no more pet intel now too??

[digital glacier]

There's always a limit to the free stuff 🙈 it's sos.
SOS says, oh, we thought you hated having pets, oh, you want more pets?

• Buy crowns with pearls or crimson gems to buy pets with crowns

[west fog]

Glad I could get some 7 purples on my main and like 14 on my alt... where I need them the most.
FP RNG can be so cruel, and so predictable.

[digital glacier]

0 purple birds

[west fog]

[stable cosmos]

Got 2 dogs and 1 each of the other 2, on a complete f2p account. So its probably around time spent rather than cash for this.

[cursive vessel]

My main has 3 purple dogs and 1 each of the other 2. My 100% free account has about 15 purple with a good mix of all 3. My little farm account is about the same with all the purples 😅

[jolly harness]

Didn't everyone complain about needing more stamina?
No more pet Intel = more stamina

[stable cosmos]

That IS how the devs solve things. Although the addition of the fiend intel is a step straight backwards

[charred swift]

Most people are doing the fiend rallies daily for MIGO points and rewards. Not sure how fiend intel changes anything as any fiend rally works with the Intel. You don’t have to do extra rallies

[jolly harness]

that is what i was thinking to. i do 8 - 10 rallies daily so there isn't any more stamina used then what i usually use

[cloud ridge]

Fiend intel is uselss, yes you can do alongside normal fiends so technically no extra stamina used long as the intel is on radar at time.

They also seem to have removed explore intel so saving more stam.

I don't doubt they'll add something else though that takes stam

[jolly harness]

who ever did the explore intels anyway

i did only when gold. but since lately i get frags for a maxed hero, i don't see the point in doing them

[cloud ridge]

For hero badges, the purple and blue ones to recycle, and for plasma leakage

But I use travis religiously so stam usually is fine for me

[stable cosmos]

Its more as intel its a straight step backwards. Even if you're doing them anyway there is literally no point to the existence of fiend intel. All it does is block off normal intel that at least gives stuff that helps.

Fiend intels "extras" such as they are, combat manuals and chief XP. At least explorer trails had a secondary use of sorts and maddie frags weren't terrible for cheap throwdown points.

Fiend intel is dumb and shouldn't exist. Or should actually grant something for doing it. Otherwise its just in the way

[cloud ridge]

Extra plane parts of tank gear cogs would be great, but as it is it's useless

[stable cosmos]

Theres about 40 items that would be helpful somehow. We have pets with 3 items each, new gene junk, 9 different behemoth items, pearls, plasma/polymers. Crystals and blue stuff, 10 different plane items, vehicles, potions, tempest things, platinum coins. I may have missed some. But for those of us doing intel for what intel gives, all of that is somewhat useful

I could chuck skin tickets in but they're basically a ripoff

[harsh owl]

You could have done worse

[mortal barn]

Ughhh

What is the fn point of having an event that i need to play for migo.. and just have it as a slaughterfest. “Oh whale having fun but other teams 30 players no play haha, maybe they spend money for my bonus to try?”

Like is there an internal cap to the solo limit of power for a whale at 400k raid score just so they can have them match with lesser accounts (otherwise those alliances would have like 5 mil vs 10 mil raid scores?) then the whales complain and stop spending

I’ll wait for no one to take two cents from this. Wish i could just refund my account and be done

[harsh owl]

The game is bleeding players and so the matching no longer works as intended because it's becoming increasingly harder to find matches within set groups/cohorts.

[tardy night]

What she's saying is also true.

Low ceiling on individual raid score cap means someone at 2k morale and 9k/4k stat would be same score as 1k morale and 7.5k/3k

That ends in a rout

[hollow pebble]

Let me guess, no information on conversion ratios for the stores that are closing?

[tardy night]

It's out in various streamer vids. Check on yt or other servers

[vale yoke]

#🔅︱content_creator_videos message

That's from PTR, and there are... Concerns.

[tardy night]

[vale yoke]

If you have a couple minutes, take a look. I'm sure you'll also have concerns with some of what you see.

[hollow pebble]

Just opened it, let’s see how how terrible it is

[tardy night]

Sign us up to be nailed to walls and pay us 5¢ for it. Repeat every weekend for the fun factor.

Muh war game

[vale yoke]

I've heard so much "war game" in the last 3 months, I'm so tired of it lol

[tardy night]

<insert are you not entertained gif>

[vale yoke]

I really am. You have no idea.

Lol

[hollow pebble]

why can't devs do proper math and just do a 1:1 ratio with coins blegh

[vale yoke]

Dev math

[hollow pebble]

Yeah, it's non existent in their vocabulary, the only word they see is money

[west fog]

Could be that the FP icon disappears very soon
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[vernal moss]

This is likely due to the “value” that’s been decided the items are worth compared to the other stores. So this may be the main factor to why such a ratio is implemented.

I’d encourage you to create a #📋︱feedback-reporting about it to maybe try our luck at a better ratio.

[west fog]

Can't believe though that people are actually giving them their credit card number.

Is it the only way to buy bundles in Japan? Via diamonds?
Or is it like that with Apple devices in general?

[tardy night]

Lol no

These people are choosing to pay at diamond store

They think this company gives a hoot about security

Japan has all the platforms available for payments including amazon coins

We have posted about their security leaks for years now. None care.

The smods here know their lax security issue was raised to saberlot before

Every moron thinks "until it affects me, it's okay"

[west fog]

I've got Google pay that goes to PayPal that does a debit from an overseas account where trained apes on a leash are doing all accounting, but I'm still not feeling secure enough with this.

What I'm saying is: i would never ever give any of these companies my credit card information.
As CVS is mentioned, does it possibly mean that they gave their CVS to FP directly?
Normally (as in the secure way) you're redirected to a secure page from one of the credit card companies and enter your CVS there for verification and clearance.

[tardy night]

Prolly not the best thing to discuss here

But I can tell groups existed on DC who worked on 2 things. Mining and scripts. And fart+ were made aware of both things happening.

The fun bit however is that fart+ is gonna do play to earn games.

That's where the fun begins

[west fog]

Haven't they even started already? Think I saw a discussion with a screenshot some time ago about that.

[tardy night]

Dunno, never bothered to go look again. They had trailers out for it and was behemoth reskinnrd for the dino game

Lifted off the game that failed before based on prehistoric theme

[west fog]

Still remember the bottom line of the discussion: you've got to spend more for milestones than you're earning. Can't say I was surprised.

[tardy night]

The fraud potential is vastly greater

Cuz people would think of it as actual investments.

Not many delude themselves with the return potential here.

[west fog]

Then again, people have invested in NFTs, so it's a problem with humans in general.

[limber coyote]

I wouldn’t say to remove it, I’d rather prefer fix and provide better rewards

For me it is a relatively decent event and I find it easy to grow from stuff in it, wouldn’t like it to be removed

[west fog]

Remove it is all many can ask for for some reason. Maybe because they know that devs won't put any time into improving it.

[tardy night]

That's money laundering though

At least for sensible ones.

Like the one who bought a banana taped to a wall for 8 million. Hard to not see that as laundering or tax evasion.

[west fog]

Some actually do it for status, because they don't know where to put their money instead to get acknowledgement from their peer group. Just like it is with SoS.

[mortal barn]

not to discount you, but like it is bleeding bc the devs have shown thier real colors for a while. they can't keep this up with how it is. just moving on to thier next money grab while bleeding this out

[vale yoke]

OMG FUTURE!!!

[jolly harness]

that bad zab ?

[mortal barn]

I mean

you tell me

[jolly harness]

there is a bright side to this

your tempest are better at least ?

[west fog]

But they said there's no gap, didn't they. It must be a display bug then.

[jolly harness]

i can live with that being the strongest i have to fight

[west fog]

It won't stay there though. Data types can hold very big numbers before they overflow these days.

And there are those idle clickers that continue with aa, aaa, aaaa... there's virtually no limit.

Emphasis on aaaa...

[jolly harness]

i have people like this to fight

[west fog]

Does it still feel like winning to you?

[jolly harness]

kinda

[west fog]

I mean, does an elephant scrunching an ant even feel like fighting a battle?

[jolly harness]

i kinda expected to lose this one

It's always gonna be that you win some, you lose some

but you never see people complaining about matchings when they win

even when they match with stronger alliance and they win. they won't complain

but when they lose, first thing they do is write a feedback ' fix matching '

RR is still a good event. and yes, we get matches we can't win sometimes. but for 90% of the matchings it's been pretty '' fair ''. meaning you can always try to win through tactical play instead of fighting

[west fog]

SvS is an entirely different story though.

[jolly harness]

SVS against a whale state is bubble or die

but again

you win some, you lose some

[west fog]

With new migo season it went from some to most for us. Whale states could compensate the skipping frenzy, we couldn't.

[sage girder]

Dwhale will burn them alllll

[digital glacier]

Inflation hit hard

Honestly, I'd rather keep the old stores and have just have the new store added on top of what's already there

[west fog]

Wait, hero gear designs cost 500 coins in RR store. With a rate of 10:1 that's 50 new coins left. They cost 40 coins in new store. What did I miss?

[digital glacier]

Also, it's quite funny how devs announced.
Improved gaming experience, but yet the cheapest material price increase is 3333% (3.33× more expensive)

They address how the old stores have "low value rewards" yet they make them even more less valuable with the increased price.

And lastly.
Please learn to use proper terminology and phrases / sentences.
Stores aren't "merging" if they remove a ton of the items and limits for purchases.
They are discontinuing the old stores and making a new store with SOME old stores items.
That's not a merge.
When states merge, it doesn't delete alliances. That's a merge. This store "merge" isn't a merge"

[digital glacier]

Rr coins don't get converted to that currency that buys them in the new shop. That's why.

Also.
If you do it differently
Convert all items to a standard unit.
Such as biocaps (which

First you must compare the relationship with prices to another shop that has the items and see which shops most accurately reflects the consistent relationship between the tokens to see which items may be over inflated or not, or accurately priced.

The reason why I say that is because
RR shop and koh shop have same prices for the token for items.
But koh bet tokens don't have some thing that rr has, but has many in common with koh store or crown conquest shop.
And svs shop doesn't have but 1 item in common with koh and rr shops.

So, an example would be
1 hour speedup = V biocaps value = W rr token = X koh token = Y svs token = Z new currency

So that way you get the most accurate relationship and true pricing for your items and can compare across all the stores which one has the best value if any happen to be over or under inflated in pricing.

So. @west fog Does that make sense now why your math doesn't add up properly?

So for example.

[lavish heron]

Immortal arena is trash

[digital glacier]

Rr token = koh token
All items have same price as you can see.
the vast majority of KOH BET items have a 2.5 times price differential
Alloy, speedups, mk1 is different ratio. (red is bad, means less bang for your buck) buying these items from the koh bet shop.
MK1 koh bet at 2.5 ratio would be 480, it costs 500, so not much worse, but worse.
And alloy is just a joke to buy with event currency to begin with 🤣

[west fog]

So you mean to say those silver coins are more valuable than the gold coins, even though you can buy more valuable items for gold coins than for silver coins?
Another layer of confusion added?

Sorry, it's gold coins, not bronze.

[digital glacier]

What you perceive as valuable is subjective. I'm going on pure cost.

RR, koh, SHOP 1
svs shop 2

So, rr token don't buy the same items as what svs coins do.

[west fog]

You said rr coins don't get converted to silver coins, so they must be converted to gold coins.
What we don't know yet is the amount of new coins given for matches compared to old currency, so there's still a tiny chance for compensation there.

[digital glacier]

But that's not a factor. How's the new currency amount going to effect the conversion ratio for rr tokens already owned 🤷🤣

[west fog]

It doesn't. It's just an additional point. I already said before that I'm for spending instead of conversion.

[digital glacier]

But that's not a factor though. And the cost comparison isn't about price of items you can buy to new currency from events.

Its comparing price vs conversion vs price.

It's a completely different topic essentially.

[west fog]

I know that. Thought you were able to be flexible.
So, is rr coins converted to gold coins a fact or no?

[digital glacier]

Unless it changes to live server, which i doubt

[last hazel]

If it's true, I can buy dragon skins

[west fog]

Now that's helpful 👍
(Just noted how 0,5 disappear in the conversion, they couldn't get over themselves to decide for rounding up)

[digital glacier]

No. Lol. @last hazel perfect example here of what not to do

[last hazel]

Then what to do?

[digital glacier]

Buy the skin now.
I'll show you why 🤣

[last hazel]

I waited all my life for these skins

[last hazel]

How to buy, when I have only 4k of those holy coins

[digital glacier]

Wait. That's not the conquest coin. Nvm. 🤣

But yeah, sos really fkn players on this one.

The Conquest coin and store for sure

[last hazel]

I'm 100% sure not a single player has those skins in sos

[digital glacier]

It's possible

KOH been out long enough and Val was around for a while at top rank.
Val or maybe dyz would be the only potential candidates probably

[tardy night]

5 matches is a streak condition or any 5 wins will do

[digital glacier]

To put things into perspective this store change.

Look at all that stuff that disappears 🙈

[soft gulch]

@tardy night I want to send you an DM

[warm pond]

Question - Will the crowns be saved and conditionally we can save them up as much as we want?

[last hazel]

Yes

They carryover

[thorny latch]

Good evening Crowns will not be recycled, nor will pearls

[warm pond]

thanks Ashes and Sorrow😊

[soft gulch]

Crowns are masking and inflating the prices of items.

I don't like it.

[stable cosmos]

Not surprising at all

[winter echo]

I don’t think I’ve heard your opinion on this new store yet as far as whether it’s a good idea or not. Personally, I think we should’ve had one store with one central currency that gave us everything from the start and not a bunch of different stores.

[normal nacelle]

agree... one currency for everything

[winter echo]

I think it would’ve made it much easier. We have all these different coins. Some we can’t even spend now. 😂

[west fog]

It could've been intentional. The more currencies, the more opportunities for covering things up.

[winter echo]

The way we have it now leaves opportunity to have confusion or to simply forget to spend. All the stores don’t refresh at the same time and some are hidden in events. It’s great these ones will becoming one but I think there should only be one. We still have the showdown store and others.

[west fog]

What am I doing that I shouldn't do? I've got no old currency left to begin with, because I've spent it already.

[winter echo]

I spent almost all of mine. I wasn’t too sure the conversion rate was going to be worth it and the stores were refreshing. 🙈

[west fog]

For newer states there wasn't really an option to let it pile up because the growth items were needed to make the non-existing gap a little bit smaller. Having lots of it left is a luxury that mostly only older states and whales can enjoy.

[winter echo]

That’s true. There are many things in those stores players in older states don’t need.

That’s why they’ve requested having a different store for a long time.

[west fog]

Looking at that last table above makes me think that catching up will be over soon, as I don't think that they'll add other means of getting those items that will disappear. It looks like forced stagnation really.

[winter echo]

I noticed they removed things like Red Crystals and the MKII Frags. 😐

[west fog]

On a side note, their left doesn't even know what their right is writing.

Activated just now of course.

[stable cosmos]

Wasn't it previously 30 stinger supply crates for the lightweight plane materials? That, as a reminder for thr devs do NOT give points so should not actually be behind any form of paywall. Especially now the plane is well out of date. Give back the extras

[digital glacier]

It was 20 crates from platinum store.

[stable cosmos]

I swear it was more. Not spending as many coins... meh then

[dry violet]

I was about to report this too