📋︱feedback-discussion

[coarse verge]

Yeah

[rocky otter]

Wth system is that. I can’t save more to get more points 😂

[coarse verge]

I usually use just 5 or 6 and do 10

But yeah , it is stupid

[rocky otter]

Yes totally. thank you 😊

[coarse verge]

The plasma one you can , the rss one is only 1000

[rocky otter]

Yes I used 9. And it’s 991. Don’t let us save and make nice points for one event. It’s protecting whales from us doing much points 🤣

[digital glacier]

Please remove this icon from players who are not eligible to participate

[solemn kraken]

define 'not eligible', because ah don't have that

[cloud ridge]

It's a more "fun" apex

And I hate bios in gems...

[iron palm]

Dear Devs. You guys are dumb. Stop introducing new event if it still full of bugs. Thank you

[elfin blade]

Immortal arena what a pile of 💩 it’s literally like Apex arena and just as pointless?

[elfin blade]

What’s more fun about it lol?

[cloud ridge]

That I face stronger people and it made dyz come back

[stable anvil]

Who is the one who designed the state matching algorithm. Like the states are following one another

Literally one state in our matching will take all top 100 spots because they formed a mega state to face of DYZ but look what happened to that

Also if in anything for a match like immortal challenge changing marches should not be done when you click challenge

Because it gives other the opportunity to see your marches and change it so their behemoth faces your non behemoth march and to change literally their 1st and 2nd to their 2nd and 3rd place

[wide wraith]

what enjoyment factor comes from immortal challenge?

[stable anvil]

More free bios that f2p reject

[wide wraith]

but it adds nothing to the game

[solemn kraken]

what does it take away?

[stable anvil]

The moment behemoth was added this game went far from the original story

[wide wraith]

a few minutes of my day

[cursive vessel]

I set my marches but haven't done it. Did 1 try and the first match it gave me was someone with nearly max behes and all the fancy reso heroes, so I closed it down and walked away 🤣

[wide wraith]

but its another event like apex that shows nothing useful

[cursive vessel]

It shows me i have rubbish tempest 🤣🤷‍♀️

[solemn kraken]

the moment they added fracking The Joker did that

[stable anvil]

I joined game halfway through the joker collab

[tardy night]

They took away your ability to choose who to fight. So it's worse than apex

System decides what you will fight

[thorny plume]

Why does theese "BoNuS StAgEs" come at variabel levels? Sometimes you get it after 20 30 40, sometimes you get it after 23 or 22 etc.

It isnt a bonus level, it is a FU level

[jolly harness]

we are all jokers now

[thorny plume]

This now came at 30, probably because game think its to soon to get to 31 without spending the required amount. But is it any logic to when we get theese so called "BoNuS StAgEs"?

[jolly harness]

It switches, sometimes i get after 30, but also got after 32

[quiet escarp]

Immortal Arena. It lets same guy hit me over and over like 10 times in a row. Just farming all my points.

[thorny plume]

Just makes no sense...

[jolly harness]

3 minutes ago

[thorny plume]

Yes lovely isnt it. I think they figured out we could use apex to test different setups so we could based on experiences and acquired knowledge. They dont want us doing anything but fumbling in the dark.

[wind turret]

Immortal arena is better than apex. 😆 Immortal is actually half fun.

[west fog]

His name is Robert Paulson... his name is Robert Paulson...

[empty onyx]

😂

[jovial vigil]

There's no reason to change Apex for immortal arena , immortal is buggy and inferior in every way. Please scrap it and focus on making things better not worse

[wind turret]

Apex should be gone. Keep immortal, 😆

[west fog]

Guess you didn't get the memo that everyone is supposed to bathe in the superior strategy, rich rewards and supercalifragilisticexpialidocious honor, if participating or not.

[lavish heron]

The immortal arena ranking is a weird one

I have no challenge but drop in ranking

[digital glacier]

Others challenge and get more points. And you drop rank. Why hard to understand 🤷
You lose defending, you lose points 🤷 is that really hard to understand 🤷

[lavish heron]

You’re wrong. It’s not ranked like that.

You win you rise. You can be idle and still drop points

[digital glacier]

Ok then how's it ranked?

[lavish heron]

When you play it, you’ll find out

[west fog]

Check battle history and you'll see.

[lavish heron]

Yeah. I see. I don’t have a fight but i dropped down to rank 70

That’s what I don’t get

You win defense or attack and you rise… but you can be idle and drop rank

[west fog]

Then it's probably a bug and the responsible battle is missing from history

[lavish heron]

Except it doesn’t show defeats cause all my defenses I see are victories

[west fog]

Just checked, I lost two ranks in the last 20 minutes because two players passed me in ranking. It happens if they defeat other players above you, but those are still staying above you in ranks. All others drop in rank then naturally. It's like people taking places in front of you in a waiting line (which pretty well describes the whole event by the way)

[lavish heron]

But it’s weird… if I’m rank 50 and someone challenges rank 49, then they should swap positions with that person. How does it affect me??

[west fog]

Yeah, it's not like in apex anymore. They definitely changed something.

[lavish heron]

Definitely and it’s weird cause it makes no sense

[west fog]

Ha, got it! Ranking is based on those honor points now.

[lavish heron]

The more wins, the more honor points??

[west fog]

You don't fight for rank places directly anymore, but for honor points. That's also why you can't select your opponent manually anymore, because you could generate 'infinite' honor points by selecting a much weaker player.

It's all about winning more battles than losing now for rising in ranks.

The 'strategy' part being shuffling your marches to win more squad fights than you lose if possible. Awesome strategy mechanic.

[digital glacier]

So. You think I'm still wrong 🤣

[lavish heron]

EXTREMELY

[west fog]

His name is Robert Paulson... his name is Robert Paulson...

[lavish heron]

It’s not just winning or losing that gets you up or down… outcomes of others even without you having a fight, influences your movement up and down.

So yes, you are WRONG

[digital glacier]

🤣
Ok. Let me break it down for you.
@lavish heron rank 1 with 1000 score.
Johnny is Rank 2 with 999 score
June is rank 3 with 998 score.

Johnny kills june
Johnny earns 18 score
June loses 10 score
Johnny now has 1017 score.
June now has 989 score

Johnny rank 1 with 1017 score
@lavish heron is now rank 2 with 1000 score.
June rank 3 with 989 score.

Must be hard to comprehend. 🤣

You dont fight. You drop rank. How's that difficult to understand 🤷

[lavish heron]

So funny you type this after I and @west fog were able to figure it out🤣

[digital glacier]

🤣🤣🤣

[lavish heron]

This was not your earlier explanation.

[digital glacier]

Umm..

What exactly was said here 🤣

[lavish heron]

Are you even eligible to play?? Anyway, I don’t have time for this… Bye.

[digital glacier]

Others challenge.
Others as in Johnny and June fighting.
Others, not including yourself.

EXCUSE ME for not elaborating more in depth for you to fully comprehend

[digital glacier]

🤣🤣🤣

[cursive vessel]

I'm sure enjoy winding people up 🤣

[west fog]

It would make you more likable if you weren't playing the superior wise guy. But maybe that's the only way you've got to boost your self esteem, so it's got to do.

[digital glacier]

It didn't last long 🤣 but here it is

[lavish heron]

Please do not tag me… thank you 🙏

[digital glacier]

You must just be mad that you didn't understand my message.
Cause I explained it with a very short answer.
Its apparently my fault for not including and explaining rank isn't based on who you kill in what rank you kill them in. but the score you have.
This is like apex, but it's not apex. Different rules, different rank style, different rewards, different format, but still along the same general style of assigning troops and stuff and battle with same chances and extra with bio to win to rank to get rewarded 🤷

[forest kiln]

🤔

[digital glacier]

I'm still trying to figure out the alliance rewards aspect 😅

Only thing I can think is if a player from an alliance is in a particular rank, the alliance gets those rewards 🤷

[forest kiln]

100 skin tickets and 10 hrs speedups... ok, 2K bios

Why do they call this "generous"?

[digital glacier]

Or number of total points of all players of alliance makes rank 🤷 I don't see alliance rank leaderboard, do you?

[digital glacier]

Generous for maybe a state that's been open 1 day 🤷

I mean, you Know the new migo has storyline intel with gen8 heroes 🤣 like, thats not directed at us gen 20 players 🤣

Cater to the new folks.

[forest kiln]

I think it doesnt need... "alliances with members in top 10", probably, means that it takes top 10 solo and based on this alliances from that top 10 solo get rewards.. but who knows, this is SOS

[digital glacier]

State 1200 or something got 2 research slots. Think you have to pay for it like the construction thing. But 🤷 Sure must be nice.

[forest kiln]

I dont think anybody needed it after 2-4 years. But if you are new state, 2 research slots is very good addition

[digital glacier]

So, if all 10 players from same alliance, get top 10.
Then every weak a. Mofo gets all ranks of top 10 alliance rewards 🤷 that's generous, but you know. You need a 10 mega whale state transfer player alliance 🤣

Non eligible players getting tons of rewards from participating players hard work. That's generous of sos.

[forest kiln]

Well, in 2 years they will be able afford to buy 1 HQ skin from skin store with this.... isnt it great?🤣

[digital glacier]

10 mega whales and 20 events later. Hq skin for everyone 🤪

Lol.

[cloud ridge]

Temp skins 😏

[forest kiln]

O... And this?

I mean, skin store is antique store with some HQ skin mummies for very long time.

Why skin tickets as rewards

[west fog]

For all those states that haven't maxed all the skins yet I guess. The amount given is another topic.

[digital glacier]

Why is this intel called rescuing survivors, when we don't actually recuse survivors anymore like we used to?
This intel is fast and easy. But really it's just a "convert stamina to speedups" button 🤣

[digital glacier]

It's a participation trophy 🤣

[jolly harness]

chat bubble

[cloud ridge]

Was chat temp?

I need to check again later, waiting on the day we get stats from chat templates

[digital glacier]

Devs calling rewards generous
They must be going off the crossed out number. 🤣

Even the amount they trying to sell this for is way overrated 😅

[cloud ridge]

Bet if it was 4999 some would still buy...

[distant gull]

1k% feels like no discount

[cursive vessel]

Do people actually buy that 🙈

[digital glacier]

1k% is - 1M% for that bundle

God I hope not.
O ly if they desperately need a few tickets for a hq skin 🙈

[cursive vessel]

I'm not that desperate for a hq skin, it'll come back around 🤣

[distant gull]

Is P10 better than P15?

[digital glacier]

Id buy the heel of of that bundle for $0.01 maybe even $0.02 but not more than $0.05 that's for sure

[digital glacier]

Depends in what context you're asking for. 🤷

[distant gull]

Improve stats before upgrade higher plasma (Like crystal research/synergy attack)

[digital glacier]

Svs +/- 3 hq for rss.
Weak P15 (pushing plasma level) trying to hit weak P12, good luck. Especially if you're from old state. It gonna take a while to burn through those troops.

Strong p10 (that be weak P15) vs an average p10, you got better chance at burning them.

But you're also weaker as p10 from base troop stats, so you deal less damage than others in rally joining your lead. Pros and cons of it all.

[cursive vessel]

I upgraded to p14 and wish I hadn't, I'm an easy target now cause I ain't a whale 😂

[digital glacier]

Weak P15, easily burnable and targeted by other P15 in svs

Strong p10, won't be seen as much a target by whales, except those looking for kill count. And even then. Strong p10 can defend off a whale for quite a few hits.

[distant gull]

My Immortal Arena rank above 200 😅, as P10 when most of opponents are P12 or higher, even I can beat P15.

When I tried koth, 250m March Power can beat 300m++ march power

[digital glacier]

And, weak P13 gonna look to target p10. Knowing that's really their strength level. Or just want to get ready points.
So there's that. Too

I was hovering 80-120 in apex. I'm p10 and my state hits me a lot cause "I'm mean" 🤣

[distant gull]

My last apex arena was 114 🤣, I will improve stats more than rushing plasma, I love burn P9 or lower

[digital glacier]

I can hit P15 hq + 1 troop building. But, meh.

I'll wait. 🤪

I don't even have t12 riders researched yet 🤣🤣🤣

[distant gull]

My P10 already have all troops t12 researched 😂

[frank wasp]

There are two problem I see in immortal arena 1. you cannot pick your opponents. And the random selection makes no sense. How do I get the same person 3x in a row? How is that random? 2. You should not be able to see the opponent setup and then be able to change yours. It should be like original apex you can switch but before you find out your opponent.

[forest kiln]

We had already "immoral arena"... doomsday something which popped up few times 2 or 3 years ago, same setting... 3 marches, which you could rotated, but you could choose who to attack

And rewads were better, if I'm not mistaken

[frank wasp]

Rewards are horrible as well agreed

[west fog]

That's the strategic part you're describing. They absolutely delivered as announced. Well, by terms of the universe they're living in.

[frank wasp]

Nothing strategic about random selection that is not random imo

[forest kiln]

A, no, same crap almost

[west fog]

Meant second part.

[forest kiln]

🤣

There were a video, I think, from PTR, that with Doom store, but I dont remember this on live servers

[digital glacier]

Immortal arena is based on bp of players in a state.
Ok.
But how many in the state might have gone inactive in this top 200 range? 1? 10? 50? 🤷 who knows.

I know this much, there's at least 4 in my state in top 200.
That's only giving our state 196 player participation at max.

I been saying this for years. And here's an event in which it would help improve event activity, not by much, but some.

• SOS creates state 0.
• players reach 61 days inactive, player gets removed from alliance and relocated to state 0. (for R1-R4)
• if player returns, the "give up feature" for state transfer will relocate them to their original state that they were in before going inactive.
• they will still have the 3 other state options to choose.
• if no players in the alliance remain, the alliance will be changed to open enrollment with no requirements to join. allowing any player to join the alliance to disband them, or keep them.
  this will:
• A. Free up player names
• B. Free up alliance names or tag (if open enrollment alliance is disbanded)
• C. Free up area from abandoned buildings of alliances that no longer exist
• D. It will more accurately reflect a true alliances bp.
• E. It will more accurately show the true activity level of the entire state
• F. It will more accurately be able to match opponents for events

[frank wasp]

Gotcha. Still not strategic if you get to see the other persons marches and get to counter but do not get to counter back. Specially when your “randomly” fight them 1 time but they get to “randomly” fight you 3-4x

[west fog]

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm implying they're not aware of what the words actually mean in our universe that their marketing guy is strewing all over the place.

Like rich, generous and honor as well.

[digital glacier]

They said they gonna add the open all pack button.
But wtf.
1 & 10
THEN AND ONLY THEN
DO YOU SEE "OPEN ALL"
Ffs, put the open all on the original screen instead of (in my video, open 10)

[frank wasp]

3. Being forced to fight your own alliance seems specially ridiculous since there is an alliance reward.

[lavish heron]

Anyone know if future tycoon(dice event) will be coming anytime soon??

[fallow flower]

This is better than the new stuff... I miss it.

[fallow flower]

Button inside when opening one card...you can use all. I know it's silly but what do we do... 🤣

[forest kiln]

We would have some kind shinny lvl 300 rainbow chief gears by now🤣

[fallow flower]

I remember we had it 2 years ago but I still have the frame. 😂

[tepid rivet]

No search maps

[weak ingot]

i have lots of limited time frames lmaooo

[pallid willow]

I hate this stupid chef event

[stable cosmos]

I wanna amend this to "please remove this icon" even if eligible i ain't playing and if i WAS going to play i like my screenspace uncluttered more than going into the event menu will bother me

[tardy night]

Can't they do a signup for this crap on Sunday the weekend before it begins. People who wanna have a go at it, sign them on. Let the others ignore it and stuff it where it belongs.

If they don't get 200 signees from a state, pile up whoever was left over from the others.

I hope they don't plan to do a global Camelot here.

[weak ingot]

I just thank God that these events are nothing good cuz there’s no better feeling than being a rally lead and not being top 200.

So i cant participate

[vernal moss]

Hi fox, this is unfortunate and surprising. Really these events should be open to everyone, I get the marketing strategy to participate but it's not right for a free download game.

I'd encourage to share your thoughts about these in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[stable cosmos]

"Delete all forms of Apex"

[vernal moss]

The icon is the biggest issue i personally find, just another thing blocking the view. But i agree the option to enter would be nice. Especially for something like that.

Taken a minute to put the idea in #📋︱feedback-reporting at all?

[vernal moss]

The idle rewards are nice still, just another thing to look at though.

[vernal moss]

We've been wanting a complete revamp of the UI for a while but it's unfortunately pushing the new graphics which many older players despise. An overhaul to allow us to put what we want, where we want would be nice, uniquely have our ui to our liking.

[vernal moss]

The recycling was a bad move, many if not all, agree. Would you think it would be better with the recycling left alone or would you still think it's a waste?

[vernal moss]

Hi chief, i'm not sure of this event, there has been a couple different versions of it. However i'd encourage to keep an eye out in #📌︱game_updates for any information incoming regarding the event.

If you'd like you could create a #📋︱feedback-reporting about the tycoon event and ask for another to arise soon.

Personally i think near Christmas we may have another.

[stable cosmos]

I don't want a revamp of the UI. I just want them to stop putting voluntary events in the play area

[vernal moss]

To have the option would be nice to see how the strength~ is compared to your alliance members. But without the option like original apex it's quite sad to see.

Have you made a #📋︱feedback-reporting about it by chance?

[stable cosmos]

The only stuff that should show up is time limited assuming its actively running at that point AND you've registered

Like AH during my timeslot, or svs, or RR

[west fog]

We should seriously reconsider this. It could be a cry for help like some people are finding coming with their products from sweatshops.
Devs, if you need help with escaping the dungeon you're locked into, give us another hidden sign.

[zenith siren]

Too little lv9 RSS, causes a lot of drama in game. Anyone has the same opinion?

[vale yoke]

You would have gotten a kick out of this from 2022. It was one of my favorites tbh

(And yes, this is from the server here: #⭐︱game_information message )

[tardy night]

Tell everyone to hang on, 3 to 6 odd months half the state will delete the game.

[lavish heron]

What a scam

Black Friday deal but more expensive

[tardy night]

They even came up with tiny cases for the poor overworked fellas iirc

[stable cosmos]

I still have some of those...

[west fog]

ADD kicking in: So there was a unicorn in game material already!

[west fog]

Take a seat before reading on: that's all Black Friday deals everywhere. It's always more expensive in some way, obvious or hidden. Or time-delayed. Or ecological...

[stable cosmos]

How is it those codes end up in this channel? Is the channel for them hidden?

[west fog]

The bring-em-back channel isn't visible by default. But you still wonder how they end up in bugs-discussion for example.

That code goes there -> https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1151946929496936468

[stable cosmos]

Sounds like it should be the other way round. Bring em back visible by default, this place for people getting involved

[west fog]

Now that you say it...

[digital glacier]

Would your settings happen to look like this?

[west fog]

Indeed it does, but i didn't fiddle with it since entering the server.

And as it seems it's the default for others as well.

As they've got a role for showing German channels, I'd asume it's a necessary server side preset.

[thorny hornet]

Have we been given any information on if the coins for the old store will be converted to the new store, or do we need to spend all of our coins before the stores close?

[unreal lichen]

Hey, we have got the message that the old coins will be convert to new currency once the old stores merged.

[thorny hornet]

all of them? that's nice

[unreal lichen]

Yes, and they said the rewards will be good.

[stable cosmos]

I would quite like to see something official for that. Announcement in game preferably

[weak ingot]

I dont trust them to give us a good conversion rate, so i spent the ways for good mats and left the bad mat ones alone

[magic anchor]

sarge frags is good. epic frags also is good. tomato also is good.

[wind turret]

We should be able to defend deployments from raids.

[patent olive]

This
Is
Most
Normal
In
State
Of
Survival

[unreal lichen]

Lvl 30 & 31 are the most torturous levels in jungle gems.

[stable cosmos]

It'd help if it wasn't cheating. That image is definitely the game messing with things

[patent olive]

Yeah of course

[forest kiln]

So, when SvS, KOH and RR stores will be merged, actually? I thought it's gonna happen this week, but I thought wrong, apparently🤔

[slim walrus]

Hey Rick, please check your messages when you get online.

[slim walrus]

Hey Lissa, and good morning.
The information only states 'informations will be given in upcoming update announcement'. Unfortunately we dont know more and have to wait until it is in those announcements.

[cursive vessel]

There's a timer on the stores that says they close in 8d 14h so I would guess not long after that (if they close them and re-open the new one at the same time but it's sos ha)

[slim walrus]

Those timers seems to vary, my Koth has 5 d and 14 h, SvS and RR 12 d and 14 h so i agree with your last comment

[pallid willow]

We cant change the trash arena marches anymore or what?

[bright crypt]

Hello! You can change the marches. Try to remove all heroes, behemoths, save the march, then you should be able to adjust 🤗

Like this: #🆘︱sos_discussion message

[pallid willow]

It shows a bug pop up message

[bright crypt]

What message are you getting ?

[pallid willow]

And yes i have latest update

[bright crypt]

Could you reset your resonate heroes ? And try to remove again the marches?

[tepid rivet]

Out of sync, how is that possible

[tepid rivet]

What happened again with the spawn rate of level 6 fiends?

Have to walk 300km to kill one if you're lucky to even find one

[normal peak]

Yeah it’s annoying

[spark kindle]

I still prefer rally toasts tbh

[tepid rivet]

That was amazing

I laughed so much

[spark kindle]

last koth I got one too and laughed my rear end off and also thought of you 😂

[pallid willow]

Couldn't they have made the new sentinel smaller? We can still see it 🙄😒

[cloud ridge]

@feral sinew stop with the 100 hundreds of events at once

It's beyond a joke and burning us all out

[vale yoke]

#🎬︱developer_feedback message

The 50th Camp Cafe? Would be nice if those dev chats would be happening, so they could say that too.
September 5th, 2023 is when I got my message that I had won a chat. Still waiting for it to be scheduled.
At this point, it's an ongoing joke. Sort of like SoS.

[cursive vessel]

The post made me laugh. We might not be perfect but we're listening 😂😂

Not sure who they're listening too but it's not us 😂

[vale yoke]

Okay bots. It's okay bots.

Posts like that just baffle me because, like, I get that they have to set these things up and allocate interns to conduct them and schedule people to sit in and nod in the background, but... Surely that's not as much effort as it is avoiding the things altogether.

... Right?

And this just looks bad from a public relations/optics standpoint.

You'd think the company would be like "maybe since we're already kind of in a hole here, we should stop digging"

[rocky otter]

Ok

I can’t find 😂 Is there a channel about charts ? Trying to find how much poly needs in poly plasma research

[tardy night]

Not really.

No one makes a single peep about fart+ in a medium they don't control.

People come to complain here

Which is laughable. Mods get thrown here. It's a wall of slaves shushing you up.

Same with Facebook / YouTube / reddit.

Reviews ? They buy them at 5¢ a piece or something. Littered with the trash all over playstore. You can tell they got a budget for it cuz steam reviews tell another story.

All the other PR? Literally no player directed voices. Just paid PR from gamesradar etc who have 0 requirements to let players be heard. The head honcho interviews is content for them. Same with streamers here. Makes one laugh at the marketing budgets being 20% for some of these companies.

There's nothing out there about how crap this company is for players. Unless you go looking for job portals where their employees will tell a bit. Which frankly no one is looking at. No one looking to play another trash title from them at least gonna go searching for reviews from their employees. And the "players like us" do the wonderful slavery task of shushing up discussions of their past deeds. You will get exemplary gems like "oh this will be different, you are assuming, you don't know" from the slaves.

Meanwhile we get the 60th copy pasted event

[wind turret]

I was beginning to enjoy sos again. Then apex arena came back again 🤮🤢

[solemn kraken]

have you... tried ignoring it?

[tepid rivet]

Twice even, like one time wasn't enough

[cursive vessel]

Can do both apex events at once, its a real treat 😌

[normal peak]

Ok

[west fog]

They're listening for sure. They just decide to ignore it. They never said they would follow what was fed back to them.

[cursive vessel]

That's true 😅

[west fog]

They obviously don't give a ship about QoL, because it doesn't make them even more of the moneys. That's all they're after.

[cursive vessel]

I dunno, treat people better and low / mid spenders would probably spend more 🤷‍♀️

Some f2p would probably choose to spend too but none of them are their target audience, so they don't count

[west fog]

You can't argue with a predator. Logic means nothing to it. It's just following its genetic programming.
Bottom line: don't make business with animals.

We're just prey to them, from top spender to f2p. That's the simple reality.

[cursive vessel]

I don't disagree with you there

[west fog]

Funny thing in all this is that Sarge has always something to say about it with perfect timing and undeniable wits.
Today he had this to add:

[pallid willow]

Thank you for making such a shtty graphic job devs 😒 legos fit in better than this

[tardy night]

Maybe the phoenix has diarrhea

[warped ruin]

This looks like another successful event with "rich rewards". 😄

I'm bored.

[stable cosmos]

Probably what happens when you alienate 80% of the f2p base and they can't be bothered just losing over and over

[thorny plume]

Pardon me, but in too lazy to log my second phone into discord. So I will have to make some bad photos.

Does anyone know where theese can be acquired ?

Seems like something i desperately need

[graceful drum]

Hi Avocato, these items can be obtained in the fountain of dreams using 300 gold coins

[thorny plume]

No not that one

300 gold is also crazy, bundled together in packs of 5 to make em expensive

Can just trash and recycle a ceappy UR and get 3 of em

[thorny plume]

But i mean the specific ones that let me pick salvation

[cloud ridge]

Was wondering why you had weird skill sticks

[thorny plume]

Oh Jesus

[cloud ridge]

It's in new event they've just added

[thorny plume]

They gonna be impossible to obtain 😦

[cloud ridge]

They gonna make bank on people pushing for these

[thorny plume]

I guess ill have to do it the scummy way then

Transfer to alt and reroll

Reroll reroll reroll and sell back to myself in 29 days

[marble grove]

Why is this "Sale" in events?

[thorny plume]

Here i was thinking they finally removed the bad RNG

And gave us a bone to let us make conscious choices

But no, we have to spend 1000s 😂

[marble grove]

Too many bigs not getting good tempest arms and trade not worth it 🤣

[stable anvil]

Ranking event now

[cloud ridge]

Love how it's called black Friday sale

[thorny plume]

Yea i mean i get that. Today you can have gear on top notch level of you put in effort.

Easier to just spend

[marble grove]

It's a sale as you cannot play without spending

[cloud ridge]

Also my turkey farm is apparently a different turkey farm?

So they had one top up, added a new top up yesterday, and now we have this monstrosity

[thorny plume]

Topupception

[marble grove]

It's black Friday, spend spend spend

Even though its Tuesday

[thorny plume]

The only thing I would be willing to spend on atm are those ascensions. But jumping trough hoops for a week emptying backpack only to have some larger whale buy the packs last day and steal your rank isnt something im gonna bother

Shame they cant just

Be less greedy

[marble grove]

Made this one with 2 reforges

But cannot get rid of that purple stat

[thorny plume]

Nice, have a couple similar ones but would want to fix that crappy piece.

Used up all my rng with that one

[marble grove]

I've tried 2/3 times on it and cannot get anything but purple

[thorny plume]

Purple is ok, what matters is the type of stats imo

For infantry ive always preferred health def

[marble grove]

I dont understand TA red is good and anything above 4m bp I'm happy with 🤣

[thorny plume]

But some stuff you just cant reroll

The odds off getting better is sometimes terrible

So ive learned to settle

[marble grove]

Reforge stuff is pretty cheap atm from all types of stores 🤣

[thorny plume]

Problem is when the piece start eating 5 and 5 needles

Then its essentially twice the price as gen 2

[marble grove]

Lul wut?

[stable cosmos]

This event used to be a really basic f2p prize track where we'd do tasks and use the items to progress. Now its... pay only? Put it with the bundles.

[thorny plume]

Reforging skill gets very quickly very expensive.
Reforging stats is same, but worse.

At 5th try you are hammering out 300 of those bottles every try

300 of those flasks or what they are costs 400 for 5 in casino. So you need 24000 casino tokens on fifth try.

But you get 3 yellow needles for 30k

And you can get 3 monthly from the market @ 1000 each iirc and next 3 are 2000.

To get that you need to make and trash quite alot gear so it very quickly gets expensive in terms of materials

But its better then letting a 250 health piece for infantry go like we always had todo on gen 2.

And thats just one piece, so yea its quite expensive in comparison to what you can buy in markets for a fair shilling

[tidal apex]

They added ranking and top ranks get tempest skill reforge i to the skill they choose thenselves

New way to milk people up

"event" where it is really only buying packs, at this point why bother complicating it, just make ranking of who spend most instead of some spices points whatever 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Certainly don't put it in the event menu when there is zero f2p component. Its not an event. Its a purchase track

[normal nacelle]

These announcements about store merges -- are very vague. What happens with current coins saved in these stores? when we say KOTH i am assuming that includes the bet coins most save..

[bright crypt]

Hello!
We are still waiting for an official response. This topic was the most voted in last week's feedback and was forwarded to the devs.

#1305141009038184449 message

[normal nacelle]

thanks, any reason when i ask someone with a GM to ask them they immediately got an answer? why is FP not providing you with the same info? Are Mods included in the VIP community space where devs post to them the lastest info? Seems like a poor way to support their volunteer staff to support the community if not

[stable cosmos]

The mods here are generally treated like dirt by the company and I'm not sure whats so great about being a mod that they don't push back more and buck the stupid rules this place has

[vivid grove]

Mods are not included in the VIP community. We have to wait until things are released before we know the details.

[wide wraith]

it doesnt help having a so-called Community Manager, who never interacts with the community and could actually ask the Devs on our behalf for conformation, maybe its time for a new CM, one who actually works with the community and lives up to their job title

[normal nacelle]

I’m amazed you all haven’t burned out from the last to know treatment by FP. The fact that members of the player community can get info before you where you represent the entire base is disrespectful to your role in my opinion. Volunteers are generously offering their time, which is incredibly valuable, and to bad they don’t understand the value of communication and sharing info with them

[wide wraith]

instead we have @feral sinew who posted there would be compensation for the mess caused by the first Nexus, then did aposolutely nothing else regarding the matter, she couldnt even be bothered to post a follow-up on the matter, despite being tagged

[normal nacelle]

someone is in charge and backfilled saber..months ago. Just dont think the plans is to provide forward facing cms outside what we have.. or that would be my guess.

[wide wraith]

if thats true they should be removed from this group as an official capacity

which means both the CM and Funplus sub groups should be removed

[normal nacelle]

we have Nanami in the front here and sutesaba in ptr... maybe they will train more here for new games..hard to say that what happend to most of the extras in the past

last time she talked here was 11.6.2024 and before that 10.31.24 lol very helpful

[wide wraith]

to be honest its more like we have no one here, and their jobs could be done by an AI, who would probably post more

[normal nacelle]

definetly more responsive

Since a CM job description lists engaging the player community .. it would be nice to be able to provide a review/survey on how they are doing. Most companies (mine does) surveys how i do in my job - its call a performance review

[wide wraith]

even the mods have stopped defending the lack of posts from the CM, they would rather just collect their free stuff and stick their heads in the sand

[stable cosmos]

Does that funplus sub grouo still exist? It needs to go. If its gonna stay prove it has a purpose

[civic star]

Well mods can't do much when dms are closed😒 lol CMS are suppose to be approachable but meh!!!!

[tidal apex]

Perfect "event" 🤣

The only ones who can afford trying to rank top10 in this black friday thing are biggest spenders and they are already pretty much "maxed" and do not need materials that are in most of those black friday bundles.

Hence they placed really enticing reward for top10 spenders making them buy stuff they dont even need, just to get "points" for event.

This is next level psychology

They could have just placed those tempest arms guaranteed skill rerolls into a bundle and sell for 4999 or 9999 diamonds each but then they would earn a fraction of what they will get now.

When current idea falls off and people stop spending crazily in events just for those rerolls thats a moment when they will place it in some event shops and/or bundles

They have no idea how to make a proper game but they are geniuses at milking peoples money

[near mesa]

It’s been like this since they took out in-state skin event and replaced it into mult-state skin event

Making weak state more undesirable. Behemoth just amplify that

[rocky otter]

What da heck is this event ?

If event will be like that, tell us and don’t bother us to play your rotten game

[torpid grotto]

I'm looking for information how to progress

[knotty storm]

Buy bundles

[stable cosmos]

Yep. Its a pay to play event. Nothing for free players to do.

[torpid grotto]

Ty. It's a shame

[wide wraith]

@feral sinew on the 30th October you posted "We have received your report regarding the registration issues with Nexus and are actively formulating a compensation plan. Once finalized, we will promptly deliver the compensation to your in-game mailbox." now almost a month later what assurances can you give that this will NOT happen again and where is is the compensation you mentioned?????

or was that just another lie to stop all the complaints and with all the other junk that has been added since, did you hope that we would forget and just move on?? well fact check we wont

Do your Job @feral sinew or resign!!!!

[jovial falcon]

Are you actually expecting @feral sinew to actually not lie to you and fulfill what has been said? I opened a ticket about the lie FP gave last month about not putting guardians in the store. @feral sinew told me it’s not a guardian before I posted the proof that it is along with the ss of the FP lie and she never responded. She’s about as useless as a chocolate fireguard

[wide wraith]

I know she said once that she was only here to count feedback, maybe she thinks that is still her role or doesnt know that it changed

[jovial falcon]

Only thing she is counting is the free crap she gets for being useless at her job

[wide wraith]

she is actually paid by the company

[jovial falcon]

That makes it even worse

[wide wraith]

even the Mods have stopped defending the CM

mention how useless she is and the Mods shut up and ignore you, even the SLMOD ignores the point

[jovial falcon]

I don’t even know why the mods put up with the crap and lies that FP throw around. I know they say they like to help and they get free stuff each month but F that. I’d rather just help without having to do it here and get abused

[wide wraith]

i wonder what packs they get for free is it level 2 or level 4, if its the later no wonder they are quiet, of course most wont know about the different free packs but some do, especially if they were once under a funplus contract

they will have been told not to tell anyone what they get or even to deny it

but that also makes they employed by FP as they recieve something for their time

[jovial falcon]

I wouldn’t care if they offered a free maxed out hero with every new gen, I would rather knock one out using a Brillo pad than accepting FP lying to me and expecting me to feed that to the community

Now we have this Black Friday event that appears to be a complete pay wall event which is another GFY to the f2p community

[wide wraith]

it is, my suggestion is to use the cafe, as the feedback system here is useless and outdated, with any feedback useless as soon as its posted because it takes at least 2 weeks for the Devs to see it, thats if it is popular enough

[stable cosmos]

I don't believe in the cafe either. Next time its for a topic i don't care about I'm posting the lyrics to never gonna give you up. If i win bios from that its ignored

[cloud ridge]

Devs to busy finding the key to open the cafe before they can meet with people

Nanami to busy finding new discord pic to wear

[jovial falcon]

Feedback has always been useless here. The whole server is no longer fit for purpose. The ingame customer service has to be the most backward system ever created and the devs don’t give a flying F to anything the community says and the mods have to sit here and mop up the fallout for chicken feed

[wide wraith]

the Mods have been doing less and less, not even trying to do any mopping up

[jovial falcon]

Don’t know what they’re like anymore. Back in the day they done what they could with little info being fed to them from higher up and a lot would help. These days it’s just mostly ignorance. Opened a ticket ages ago which is still open and after @feral sinew lied in response to a question, nobody ever responded back. Still sat as an open ticket since 🤣

[wide wraith]

i know what you mean, a few years ago, mods would have been all over this conversation but nothing these days

[slim walrus]

Good morning ShadowLord and Mordor,
let me first offer you both a coffe before i am going to answer at least some of the questions.

[jovial falcon]

I can assure you, you can’t answer any of my questions. I’ve been waiting weeks for @feral sinew to apologise for being a lying POS in my ticket so I doubt you could help

[spark kindle]

Can someone please point me the way to a good feedback about new hero genes feature?

[slim walrus]

Give me a moment and i will see if we have one, if not we will simple make one

[slim walrus]

Unfortunately you are right about the Nanami part. I cant help with that. But i can help with the feedback about CS. I will word it and posting it here, before sending it in Feedback-reporting

[spark kindle]

Thank you ☺️

[slim walrus]

Ok, i need to word a new one, can you give me some points you are refering too? So i dont need to guess them all please

[jovial falcon]

You know, not every issue needs to end in “I’ll do feedback”. At some point you’ll realise that feedback is just another way of saying “waste your time in our feedback channel so it can just be ignored as the devs are more interested in dealing with feedback regarding what is your favourite colouring book”, whilst simultaneously eating the actual crayons

[tepid rivet]

I asked yesterday already but I will ask again: what's the issue with respawn of level 6 infected fiends? Have even the zombies left this gamble area already?

[slim walrus]

I know that my 'I will word a feedback' is never meant as 'waste your time' since i know every singel feedback is grabbed and forwarded to the devs. But yes, i also know i cant do more then that.
But i have seen Feedbacks with high votes and they made a change.
So from my side: i can not change their actions, but i can help wording our opininion and give those a voice.

[wide wraith]

idnt they say that there would be more level 6 fiends, yet another lie

[full rampart]

Helloo everyone

[slim walrus]

I personally, have not seen any difference, but if they are vanishing, we need to word that and get that to the devs too.

[wide wraith]

hey Tallie, long time no see

[slim walrus]

Good morning Tallie, you want a coffee too?

[full rampart]

Ello Lexie Did you have this issue all day yesterday? Because 10 min close to reset i only found lvl 1 and lvl 6 around our hive

[full rampart]

Shadooowww i was here but other channels

[full rampart]

I overslept it 11

[wide wraith]

has had the same issue with fiends and dreadbeasts for months

[slim walrus]

@spark kindle i am sorry for the tag. Do you mind when i send you a dm?

[full rampart]

Only for lvl 6?

[wide wraith]

for all

[spark kindle]

Of course not ☺️

[full rampart]

I fell asleep last night without doing my dailies and i woke up at 11:48 and i was panicking, i can only kill lvl 6 with 1 march and I wasn’t finding 5 only 6 and 1

[full rampart]

I’ll forward this and try to get an answer

[wide wraith]

thanks

[tepid rivet]

I had one close to hive. But one. Like we're 90 people alone in our alliance, and many more people in state. I just don't understand why they screwed simple things that didn't need to be touched at all

[tepid rivet]

They say many things, sometimes it's better to remain silent

[full rampart]

I will ask about it

[tepid rivet]

Thank you

[tardy night]

Something coming that will need fiends or whatever fiends give

They usually dry up the supply around 3-4 months before such a thing shows up.

[stable cosmos]

They're in intel now so that might be affecting it. Why i don't know cos the intel prizes are the worst I've ever seen

[wide wraith]

i see Lights and Colors was added late again after some already did intel etc

[full rampart]

But they have been always in migo and i think more people do migo tasks daily rather than full intel

[jovial falcon]

And yet nobody asked for it or gave feedback to add it. What does get mentioned alot in feedback is the connection issues during events. Often the most upvoted feedbacks. Never comes

[stable cosmos]

Oh, i don't care about this camp cafe. Right. Will report on results

[full rampart]

Never comes as never comes live in game?

[stable cosmos]

Never gets dealt with. They just give sops about stuff that mostly lives client side

[jovial falcon]

Never comes full stop. Every single event

[stable cosmos]

Heck, i get connectio issues in stupid feeding frenzy. Realistically nothing in that should be server side,but as they gotta cheat every tile i flip needs a server call so it can adjust the stuff i can't see

[jovial falcon]

Again, mentioned in feedback more times than anything else and often most upvoted when it is mentioned and yet here we are, with zero attempt made to fix it. Tell me again about the usefulness of feedback?

[jovial falcon]

They cheat with every event.

[full rampart]

This is something new for me, I didn’t hear or experience lag in that one.

[jovial falcon]

I can promise you it’s not new for you 🤣

[full rampart]

Are you referring to the infected related feedback?

[full rampart]

Maybe I don’t play that event often enough

[stable cosmos]

I don't bother reporting cos i know they won't fix it. The lag exists to make sure i lose.

[jovial falcon]

No, the connection issue feedback that has been put in the feedback channel for years

[full rampart]

Ohhh

[stable cosmos]

Connection issues have been a problem for ages. Considering the general lack of actual pvp in this game where the timing of actions matter the overall connection stuff is just f---plus running as cheaply as they can

I should never see anything wandering around my map, or during any of the solo minigames. Only during AH, RR or SvS would i expect lag

[jovial falcon]

Can’t be expecting FP to use up their private jet money on the most important aspect of the game itself

[tepid rivet]

Maybe they should have invested in better servers than more/bigger/shinier appearance of HQs

[stable cosmos]

And possibly SR

[jovial falcon]

The use Amazon servers. One of the worst for the cheapest price

[stable cosmos]

Already know that they also only use 1 for this game

[full rampart]

But i like shinny HQ

[jaunty marten]

any mod can have a look on this ss , is this a visual bug or have been some changes, also noticed that defense has been decrease, defense stats has been reduced by 200% 🤔

[stable cosmos]

It might share with others, but this game is hosted on 1 server. Otherwise we wouldn't need maintenance downtime

[jovial falcon]

Doesn’t help that they don’t remove bugs, they just paste over it or it removes the whole script of what the bug was attached to

[full rampart]

I just checked this also, mine have 30 all of them aswell

[jaunty marten]

can you do a proper report please to have a look on this

[full rampart]

Yes sure give me a few minutes

[tepid rivet]

Have the same

[stable cosmos]

Reporting in game for a bug is probably more reliable than here

Even if they do just close it instantly.

[tepid rivet]

CS and reliable is a combination I wouldn't expect

[jovial falcon]

Throw in “discord feedback” and we have a deal 🤣

[tepid rivet]

Oh yeah, I am not a fan of that either

You can upvote something 3k times and then someone shows up and basically says: you don't have to play it, so it's not our problem

Right Nanami?

[jovial falcon]

The discontent for the lying POS @feral sinew grows daily I see

[cloud ridge]

She is just there for the wage and goodies

Not the work

Another useless cm

[full rampart]

May i use this

[jaunty marten]

yes please

[full rampart]

Actually i think Nanami is fantastic and she does a lot, i saw her very involved in trying to get answers for players, she took the feedbacks we had for server changed also and approved them, her work is a lot and in the background is even more

[full rampart]

One minute and will be posted

[stable cosmos]

Seeing as you're around. Why does the funplus role exist? Whats it for?

[full rampart]

They have different members who check things here, i belive someone checks the in game translate feedback https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1181596943378567270

[stable cosmos]

I don't care that there are other fp employees here, just curious why they have a special role given they interact with nothing

Sure, but why the role?

[jovial falcon]

Well that’s a lie. You don’t get freebies to suck up to useless people. She is neither fantastic or trustworthy

[full rampart]

Hmmm probably the role gives them different permissions in the server maybe to check statistics

[jovial falcon]

Cyan, doing behemoth rallies now

[stable cosmos]

Aye

[full rampart]

I don’t suck up to anyone, I have my experience with her and the help she has offered me, I won’t be saying things that are not true or things I don’t know, that’s why I answered to cyan with probably about the role of these Funplus members

[stable cosmos]

Can you find out what that role actually grants please. Any of tbe discord admins should be able to say.

[full rampart]

Yes sure, i’m not an admin tho so i will need to ask

[stable cosmos]

Unless its for a specific fp channel or grants read across the board I'm positive it just shouldn't exist

[cloud ridge]

Then if her work is backend why she a cm

If she refuses to cm

[jovial falcon]

You want to see her blatant lying? What you claim is not true? I can assure she is a filthy lying POS

[wide wraith]

if she is so good why no follow up on the Nexus issue and the so called prompt compensation

[full rampart]

If i understand good the concept of being a cm is being a bridge between players and developers, because us mods have no contact with the developers

[jovial falcon]

I mean @full rampart you are in the exact same ticket where she blatantly lied

[full rampart]

Wasn’t it issued? I think a few hours after everyone got to play nexus, or am i wrong?

[wide wraith]

nope didnt get anything just put back in

[full rampart]

The wings you complained about were not in the anniversary event as i could check

[full rampart]

So they got to play? They didn’t lose anything no?

[wide wraith]

but thats not what it said

[jovial falcon]

They where in stage 7, check again

[wide wraith]

We have received your report regarding the registration issues with Nexus and are actively formulating a compensation plan.
Once finalized, we will promptly deliver the compensation to your in-game mailbox. thats what was said

[full rampart]

I have the wings from stage 7, and these are pink 🙈

[jovial falcon]

I have the same wings. They are the same as the ones in the store

[full rampart]

Yes but i belive they fixed the registration to make sure that everyone plays, isn’t this better? Because i am sure no compensation would have satisfied everyone

[full rampart]

I need to search the ss but i assure you the purple ones were not in stage 7

[civic star]

All in all, you should not defend…..players have right to ask for cms to physically engage in this server

[jovial falcon]

Listen and listen good. I got the exact wings that were in stage 7. Do not think you will come on here and lie. I have all the proof they are from stage 7

[civic star]

[wide wraith]

then a good CM would have come back to the community, not just say nothing and ignore the Community after saying there would be compensation there should be something even if its just a token amount

[full rampart]

Then please show me the screenshot because then i got the wrong wings, and please no need to be defensive about it I already told you i got the wings aswell, maybe we are talking about different things

[jovial falcon]

When people lie I get my back up, it’s the reason I’m going for that POS @feral sinew

[full rampart]

Yes i understand your point, i just said that there was no compensation because the problem was actually fixed

[wide wraith]

then why say there would be

[civic star]

Getting caught in their own words 😂😂

[full rampart]

Probably they didn’t think they can fix so everyone can play?

[jovial falcon]

The Gleam wings were stage 7. It is the exact same wings that are in the pearl store. THE EXACT wings. Your precious @feral sinew in that exact same ticket mocked that they are not even guardian wings before I posted the ss. I suggest when people open a ticket you conclude that ticket and not leave it unanswered for weeks after being shown the proof

[civic star]

Oh my god! I dnt regret taking break to check dc for once 😂😂😂😂

[civic star]

Wait are you serious? Lol shadow and other people are not silly……they know what they saying……they pointed lying and not proper communication…..you need to work on your cover story better then that

[full rampart]

I had to search a video about this

[jovial falcon]

Post the first half of that pic

[full rampart]

There is a video in archivist videos with it posted here some months ago i can give you the link for the video

#📺︱archivist_video message

[full rampart]

This is not the anniversary event

This is future tycoon

[jovial falcon]

Anniversary or not, the complaint was regarding what FP announced only 3 weeks before they went back on their word before @feral sinew tried to lie about them not being guardian

That ticket was then left unanswered from her or anyone else. Just left open like it will be forgotten about

The same person you said it was untrue that she lies

[full rampart]

Well you told me it’s from anniversary, I answered that is not from anniversary because i have them aswell and they look different.

[jovial falcon]

And then you passed it on to nanami who then dealt with it with a lie

And still weeks later I’m waiting

[full rampart]

It is an case where you can’t please everyone in my opinion, the feedback regarding not having wings in the pearl store had a lot of down votes because people want free to play to have a chance at the wings

[jovial falcon]

So if feedback on here is trash, opening a ticket is met with a lie, customer service being a generic robot and the emails are replied to by the very CM who lied, then tell me, where do people need to go to make a complaint

[jovial falcon]

Doesn’t matter if it had down votes, up votes, left to right votes, the feedback system is garbage. FP as shown above clearly lied on a feedback they gave

[full rampart]

You can open a ticket in game or at funplus email.

I am not in qualified nor working for funplus to be able to decide what goes in game or what doesn’t.

Wings had a lot of feedback from players to get them accessible for free to play, it’s probably a reason why they changed their mind and added them to the pearl store

[jovial falcon]

I have a ticket open remember, it’s been unanswered for weeks

And the email was responded to by the very person I shown above who lied

[tardy night]

What would the resolution be, remove it from everyone for paying too little or compensate you for a bad purchase decision you yourself made

[jovial falcon]

So at the very least when you direct people in future to open a ticket or post feedback or email, remind them that there’s a 90% chance they will be lied to. Surely you’re qualified to do that right?

[tardy night]

And it is a "bad" decision purely because others got it a while later at a cheaper price.

Yes?

[jovial falcon]

Absolutely not, but if they are putting wings in the store, they should have created a 3rd tier wings. The main wings are only for the people who spend a mortgage on the game, the standard wings, the medium spenders have a better chance to win but they are still crazy expensive, so to then place those exact same wings in the store for only a tiny fraction of the price it cost to get them not that long ago, is not good.

[tardy night]

When the real estate market crashes, do you stand outside the home bought at 2% mortgage and yell at your bank to compensate you

[jovial falcon]

Or put older wings in the store from years ago, but not recent ones

[jovial falcon]

I use the term mortgage to explain the cost of what they expect people to pay to obtain something

[tardy night]

The cost is completely arbitrary and dependent on demand.

Nil demand can mean something released yesterday can be discounted today. Look at lara frags

You expect them to design stuff, not see it sold, and keep the same price?

[jovial falcon]

Yes but when they say they will not do something then after people spend, they go back on their word, is completely different

All they will achieve is to push the medium spenders into spending less on guardian events because there’s a chance it will pop up in the store. Bad business model

And then have people lie about the whole thing who are there to actually help is wild

[tardy night]

On the other hand, they can keep an artificially inflated price that people don't opt for, because the game has better RoS for almost everything else.

Bad business model.

[jovial falcon]

Their decreasing intake of profits suggests different

[tardy night]

The game is 5 years old, I assure you their profits are not floundering over the new product line they have put out to replace the cash stream from here.

[jovial falcon]

Not talking about new products, talking about this product

[tardy night]

It's like they know how much they can squeeze out of the customers they acquire. Damn.

[jovial falcon]

Bad decisions in existing games will always follow onto other games

[tardy night]

They do. And gamblers like present company always keep gambling

So, they keep thriving

Always a new fool to entice.

[jovial falcon]

Not when the current product is failing. They will find a different product not attached to this product

[tardy night]

Which they do, yes.

Can only make fools of folks for so long. Or squeeze them out till they got nothing left.

Gotta find newbies

[jovial falcon]

And therefore this product in terms of revenue is falling. Yes they have other products that are doing a little better but their customer retention is horrendous

[tardy night]

Which they account for via reskins of the same trash. You're in the 6th iteration of it.

[jovial falcon]

They need to do better then because even that’s not working

But they need better employees also

Ones that will be honest, ones that will tell you straight “hey, you can feedback or complain here and there but nobody cares and will spin you a yarn long enough for you to forget”

[dim marlin]

Mordor

[jovial falcon]

Bottom line is they could have gone about that whole thing a hell of a lot better that wouldn’t have spat in the face of medium spenders and will have benefited everyone, but they failed

[dim marlin]

Would you mind if i just give a good thing only

Not to hurt you or any one if you feel it ok for me to talk and dont think it offensive

[tardy night]

Your feedback flies against general opinion regarding discount rates offered to players.

If you expect every opinion of yours regarded, perhaps you should consider whether all of them have equal weight for those you offer the opinion to?

2% stat having 2k$ spent on them is a -you- problem

Identify the issue. Rectify it.

[jovial falcon]

Not if they opted for a different route that would have benefitted f2p whilst not affecting any other players. It was easy to do

[jovial falcon]

It’s no longer a me issue as that path pushed me to no longer spend so they done me a favour in that respect and I know other quit spending as a result

[tardy night]

So basically give an additional 2% to every player. Thus benefitting no f2p

Unless you think no one other than f2p would go for that exclusive item pushed out

[stable cosmos]

I probably would have bought any pair of wings for any brand of bonus. The purchase was "ooh neat wings" and literally nothing else.

If it was 0.5% attack instead, probably still would have got them

[jovial falcon]

No, created a third tier wing set that offered 1% or even 1.5% as its cost is considerably lower than the standard or the premium. Will any f2p complain about that?

[tardy night]

We talking of monetary value here since it's the discount rate being contended. Aesthetic value harder to quantize.. specially when no one puts on older skins or wings after a while regardless

[stable cosmos]

Only non buy would have been no stats at all

[jovial falcon]

The monetary value sticks only due to those particular wings being the most recent standard wings and then the promise that they wouldn’t go into the stores before then putting them in the stores weeks later.

[tardy night]

Same thing. If everyone gets it, via 3rd wings. Where is the advantage for f2p.

You're asking for the advantage to remain for what, 2 years, for an item with 2% value.

What should it be for behemoth? 20 years?

[dim marlin]

I wanted to buy a cell phone of my dream but i could not one day I got an Off on the cell phone and i bought it. Can all complain why they had given me the phone cheaper than earlier ones. Even when u purchased today the phone is ever cheaper then i bought u still cannot complain about why it is cheaper then i purchased. Because that is a benefit of all. Few benefit from some things from other things. I purchased first i had my benefit The other used later than me they had their own and few before me had their own. So let's be a benefit for all. And all have the right of opinion and we should respect every one's opinion. Weather poor or rich. Irrespective of the results. As all are playing their role at some place. If you eliminate them out you cannot do all on your own. It's a group message please. If we eliminate F2P still game suffers if we eliminate P2P still. So it's a clap with both hands. Lets be friendly and cooperative and give worth to every one of us

[jovial falcon]

You get cheap wings with a small stat increase for next to nothing.

[jovial falcon]

Did that phone company tell you they would not sell it cheaper before selling it cheaper?

[tardy night]

That's no advantage or benefit.

10+2
12000+2

Vs
10+2
12000

What's better

As the one having 10. Which would you want

[jovial falcon]

As a f2p, the cheapest available. As a f2p I wouldn’t even care about any stat increase, it would solely be aesthetic as when have f2p had an opportunity before to get a set of wings?

[tardy night]

An f2p cares more about stat increase unless they play no survival pvp event whatsoever or are carried around by whales inc

Cuz their game ends or begins with those small increments.

[jovial falcon]

A f2p will never get to a level where they can’t be zeroed in 1 hit. Thats facts. An extra 2% or 1% does not change that fact. That isn’t a diss to f2p, it’s because FP made the game that way. For a player in the borderline of being a rally leader, that extra stat makes a small difference

[tardy night]

F2p were quite well off in the first year or so. So that -never- is a hyperbole

[stable cosmos]

The first year or so lacked the ridiculous power creep

[jovial falcon]

The first year was great, it was very much equal footing. Now, there are players that can zero a player who has 20mil troops in no time at all and with zero effort

[stable cosmos]

Why am i still awake... i have work in the morning

[tardy night]

Wonder what perpetuated it, can't be bigger spenders making rash fomo decisions they later regret

[dim marlin]

Well it's never written anywhere that they never will. Even they never told me they will not reduce after i purchased.

[stable cosmos]

Some that, some that the devs offered the creep in the first place. They could have offered smaller margins and still made bank

[jovial falcon]

Well FP said they would not go into stores and 3 weeks later here we are

Don’t use an example of something completely different from the issue

[jovial falcon]

Started off as a creep and then exploded into greed

Most of it was the biggest players in the game demanding more and threatening to leave

[blazing kayak]

Need to be able to turn off the pop up that tells you to do research when you have finished all the research

it keeps popping up every 5 minutes

very annoying

[jovial falcon]

You should create a feedback in the feedback reporting. I will inform you though that even if it’s the most upvoted feedback of the year, they will tell you one thing then backtrack a few weeks later. You will then be directed to customer service who will give a generic reply. After that you get to open a ticket or email which then gets a response from @feral sinew who will point blank lie to you. Best thing to do is nothing at all I’m afraid.

[cloud ridge]

But, she's not exactly engaging with us now is she, even she does its minimal effort and random, for example.

The time where there was some bug reported or security breach which was said to have been due to half length pictures before, she said she would make an announcement about it here.

To be of my knowledge she didn't unless I'm wrong.

[blazing kayak]

You actually got a response 😅 Now I don't even get automated responses. I just post here assuming I am being ignored, it is less work and easier and achieves same result. 😄

[jovial falcon]

True, even though she lied, it was a response but yes, the end result is the same, you will get ignored. They pretend to help and give you a sense that they are helping but in 6 months time you will still have the same issue

[cloud ridge]

Those wings we're from the tycoon event with Poseidon skins yeah, still stage 7 though from memory.

Doesn't make it any better pushing so much only to have cheaper a little while after.

It's not different to like the attack animation skins or some relo affects getting "cheaper" not so long after first being released in some cases

I had someone in my alliance spend a lot for the dragon attack effect, only for it to come to bounty blast or something shortly after and be much cheaper to get

[jovial falcon]

Yeah it was a stage 7 in something but unfortunately there are people including mods that think the whole thing was acceptable. They then say I’m against f2p getting the good stuff when those that know me know that is the furthest from the truth imaginable. They can’t see past the greed

[cloud ridge]

I don't mind them making things easier to get with time, but sometimes they will drop a new set, you spend a ton to get, then next thing you know it's suddenly in pearls for fraction of the price

[cloud ridge]

Its good, but also a slap in the face, cause I know someone else complained about the wings here being in pearls, not so much cause it's there but more it wasn't long after the event.

It's much cheaper to get 6k pearls then spend to get the pearls normally via event.

So quite a difference and something most would avoid if they know this will be cheaper in say a month

[jovial falcon]

Not against it, but the timing was not good. All they’ve done now is push a select group of players into a position that does not benefit FP

[cloud ridge]

They have, it's a two way thing, it's good as now anyone can technically get it with time, but it just pushes those who spent a lot to get them in the wrong direction.

Like, for current event for angel hq, what's to say that won't be cheaper to get in a month

I know people ain't pushing for that like, but same could be said for those tempest sticks

[vale yoke]

I smell discussion.

[jovial falcon]

Exactly, I posted the proof that FP lie to everyone and have many other ss that show other times they have, so because of that decision, people will naturally not spend on things that would normally cost 1-2k because it might be available a few weeks later for 100

[vale yoke]

I was gonna rant about how the investment has never matched the product, how everyone knows FP lies to them, how the devaluation is intentional, and they're not going to change how quickly they place comparably newer skin items in stores while pushing out new, high cost skins for those little stats.

But like... I kinda wanna be happy today. Idk about any of you.

[jovial falcon]

Always good to be happy 😃 🤣

[vale yoke]

It's hard here lol

Because there is so much to be said, like "you're right this is messed up" and "unfortunately Chek wasn't wrong that this is exactly how they develop their titles regardless of revenue success because it's copied and pasted development". Or "the developers don't actually care" and "this is already happening in their new titles"

[jovial falcon]

Not just this company. People still actually think this game was an original idea and yet was copied from an older game. Same with whiteout survival, exactly the same. They have trap, FF, capital, SvS, they even have the same side events.

[vale yoke]

Fun fact, did you know this company uses a proprietary bit of stuff they paid money for, so even their older titles share this same stuff.

[jovial falcon]

True that

[vale yoke]

That's literally what Chek told you; they copy paste their own development

And it is true because that has been proven. They paid good money for that proprietary bit of code all those years ago

[jovial falcon]

Just like other companies and created the exact same concept, with exact same events, just with different names for those events

[vale yoke]

They also spoof themselves

Gotta make sure that player base stays fresh. So spoof and then connect to live servers. Speaking of whichever 1300 states those were, how y'all doing? Was this the game you thought you were downloading and playing? Have you gotten that link to support yet, or does it just bring you here still where mods say they can't help you because you don't play the same title?

[jovial falcon]

Hahaha and the same customer service for every title

[vale yoke]

All of this is to say, Mordor, that this has been an ongoing and continually worsening issue you've been describing. And you're only seeing it now because it actually affects you now. I'm f2p, guess what has affected me at an increasing rate for five years?

[jovial falcon]

I disagree there. I’ve been playing since 2019, always been here ranting. Been blocked, muted, you name it. This isn’t new to me 🤣

[vale yoke]

Haven't been blocked or muted or banned yet

Anyway, all of that was to say that your problem and your concern is valid. 100% valid. But it's also a symptom of a larger issue that has moved from title to title for longer than this one was even a concept

[jolly harness]

YET

[vale yoke]

You can't change corporate entities when they see the dollar bills. You have to convince them that there is an issue with how they're generating those dollar bills and sell them their own success.
In the end, companies like FunPlus don't want us doing that because they already have the method to get there and we prove it repeatedly across their titles.

[jovial falcon]

It’s the wannabe mods that always amuse me. The ones that suck up to mods, then become mods, then cry that they’re players too when the place erupts because of a failed update. They do get it bad I can’t lie but they chose to be in this position and get freebies for doing it so yeah

[vale yoke]

It could happen. I'd hate to see it too.

[jolly harness]

[jovial falcon]

They could actually massively increase their revenue and bring life back into this game but they refuse to find it and are led by the whales

[jolly harness]

This I agree with

[vale yoke]

Take a chance, alter development cycle, and potentially make more revenue.
Stick with current development methods and retain predictable streams while making a name for yourself as an investment firm and recycling that revenue into blockchain projects and partnerships with media companies.

Decisions decisions.

I can tell you which one they chose

[jovial falcon]

They cater for the wrong end of the spectrum. It’s the medium spenders that are their biggest revenue and their f2p are the life that without the game would cease. The biggest spenders are the ones killing the game but the company bends over backwards for them

[vale yoke]

I've said many times this company is inefficient. I'm sure you would agree with me for various reasons, not just their target markets and demographic preferences.

[jovial falcon]

Well I’m going for lunch. I’ll finish off by reiterating the fact that @feral sinew is a lying POS

[marble grove]

24x 1k for 6h at fishing... they really pumping bios out 🤣

[tidal apex]

Same as last time, at some point you just stop getting anything other than biocaps... Dont get me wrong, biocaps are not bad per se, it's just that I would also like to keep getting some stuff that lets me participate in event 😒

[warped ruin]

Since there are 100 intel and 10 fiend rallies per day, you need the bios for stamina.. Don't tell them it's a lot, because they'll remove even that.

[cloud ridge]

Just no only bios in gems

Bios in mining tycoon was fine, as mining was awful, fishy is ok so dont mind bios there now and then, just bios in gems though is criminal

[tardy night]

With dna system you require 5 to 15k potions per gen more. Depending on how much you will gamble.

Those bio are the best thing they giving rn

Gotta remember, unlike tempest you can't switch that golden skill to new gen. 6 to 7 month shelf life only.

[stable anvil]

They are giving bios and coins only for f2p up to lvl 20, after you hit 21 thats when bombs start showing up

[solemn kraken]

has the Lara Trap event even started yet?

[stable anvil]

Thats done

[solemn kraken]

which event was that one?

[stable anvil]

The one im mentioning is jungle gem where bombs show up after lvl 20

[solemn kraken]

was referring to this

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[cloud ridge]

Nopes

Last gems for all 3 days it was basically 90% bios

I couldn't get to 40, usually I finish above 40 everytime.

Last gems and I think 2 gems prior we're awful with bios basically all times

[silent pike]

The event with the fancy trap is called Last Ritual and yesterday was the last day for it but it will be back next week on the 5th of december

[cloud ridge]

I never got a single bomb buff across all 3 days...

[stable anvil]

Yes same happened to me but you get slight higher chance after lvl 20

[cloud ridge]

Bios ruins gems, which is why is should be bios + buff each hour minimum

[stable anvil]

Like 1 percent chance of getting buff every 6 hr

So these people need to shut it or else more get ruined

[cloud ridge]

1st day I got to 11, 2nd 21, 3rd 31

[solemn kraken]

much thanking yous

was the Trap the Alliance part?

[silent pike]

It sometimes helps to reset the idle rewards early if you are getting alot of biocaps.

[cloud ridge]

Usually best case I'd be border line 40 on 3rd day or 21 on 1st for better rewards overtime

[silent pike]

Yes, the fancy trap was the alliance part.

[solemn kraken]

yeah, don't have that

[cloud ridge]

Explain to me then how claiming the passive rewards earlier some how stops me getting bios

[west fog]

She did indeed -> #🎉︱server_announcements message

[cloud ridge]

Thank you, I couldn't remember if she did or not 😘

I still stand by my non engagement and generally useless statement though 😌

[silent pike]

It doesn't always stops you from getting biocaps, but i do it sometimes when i get biocaps for the most part and it does seem to give a little bit more of the rockets and stuff after doing resetting it

[stable anvil]

That does absolutely 💩

[cloud ridge]

It makes no difference to me, you'll get whatever you get after an hour

[west fog]

Folks, please stop talking about bios. You know very well that it can only lead to decrease and removal. Just take them silently.

[solemn kraken]

you do know what 'random' means, don't you?

[cloud ridge]

Which usually is bios...

[stable anvil]

No chisel, no bombs just coins and bios only

[stable anvil]

Exactly

[cloud ridge]

Bios only is very random yes

[jolly harness]

[stable anvil]

Less fewdback on jungle gem and leave fish as it is

[cloud ridge]

I agree, which is why I advocate for bios + buff per hour

[stable anvil]

I need my 600 k bios for next gen heroes

[jolly harness]

that's just greedy and you know it

want wings too ?

[cloud ridge]

I'd actually want them to add bios back to mining tycoon as that event is awful

[cloud ridge]

Go for it 😂

[cloud ridge]

Greedy, maybe, or say if you haven't obtained x buff in a certain time frame your guaranteed it in x hours

So say every 3 hours your guaranteed a bomb buff, but first two hours can be x buff or bios

A bit less greedy and least more beneficial

I just get fed up of getting idel rewards every 6 hours to just not progress...

[jolly harness]

I get bombs, i'm happy, i get bios 24h straight. i'm happy, i take it as it goes.

Does it really surprise ya'll FP isn't listening to the people ?
I they would listen you all get maxed out accounts for free and still people would find something to complain about 🤷

More bios - less other stuff = Not happy
Less Bios - more other stuff = Not happy

" We want both and we want a lot " <= This is how 80% of ya'll sounds

Then go on how ya'll still don't get enough.

BTD i see you are from 688. You personally should know how much or a struggle it was gathering bios - lets say 12 months ago still - . So whether you get 3 days of FREE bios or 3 days of bombs and rockets. Take what you get and don't make a fuss.
They can always ' fix ' is and just cancel the whole event then maybe ya'll will be happy.

[cloud ridge]

I get what you mean and it is right, but it still is annoying nonetheless of just getting shafted by bios, bios ain't useless, they are useful and everyone needs them.

But, there's other events you get them in and in one of the best event they've ever done, it just dampers the overall mood of it. Especially if you spend on it.

And they'll never change it realistically to be amazing, surprised they changed some stuff as it is for better and not made worse as they tend to

And I transferred from 597 to 688, so no 😅

[thorn axle]

[cloud ridge]

Smellie

[thorn axle]

No you

[cloud ridge]

[thorn axle]

Don’t remind me about jungle gems… not the one that finished but the other one, I fell asleep at like 20 utc… missed all the last rewards because I was ill

[cloud ridge]

Sleep is more worthwhile than bad rng gems

[last hazel]

Jungle Gems, I reached lvl 39 yesterday, with same spending which I do every jungle Gems.
I reach mostly 45. This time 39. But I wasn't upset. Because it's RNG, I get more, I get less, it's part of the game, if it gives me bios only, I'm happy with it.
With 4.99 I get 35k biocaps on lucky draw or something.
So based on $20 I spend on jungle Gems and get 200k bios, is a win not a lose.
And I get more items too. So Jungle Gems is a win win on all aspects.
If players want every hour 5 bombs, entire 3 days, I would say, this is unrealistic expectations.

[thorn axle]

Ooo usually 45? Nice

I only aim for 35

[last hazel]

[thorn axle]

But my spending has decreased across the board I only get the 99 x 3 bundles

[last hazel]

$20 is what mostly gives me 45.

[solemn kraken]

ah'm happy to reach 10 by the end of the event

[thorn axle]

My usual goal is to reach to level 11 as soon as the event starts

[last hazel]

I hit 21 on the first hour it starts, then I just go with what system gives me

[thorn axle]

So the 99 diamond bundles help there

Do you get the 20 bundle or the smaller ones that add up to 20 in price

[last hazel]

I'm happy that it's not like mining Tycoon. It cost me $300 to reach 150 lvl.
Devs owe me at least $150.
They reduced the cost now

[solemn kraken]

not everyone has rich parents with credit cards

[last hazel]

99, 299, 499

[last hazel]

My parents are not rich, and I'm only rich by heart.

[hoary flint]

Whales

[thorn axle]

Ahh I will try same tactic as you and see how far i get 😂

[last hazel]

Sometimes I just hit the 9999 bundle on start if the jungle Gems having good output rewards like slot coins or operation Festival.

[thorn axle]

[last hazel]

So to reach 50, I had to spend like 9999+4999+99x3, 299x2., 499x1.
And hardly reached 50 because of bad RNG rewards.

[cloud ridge]

Da, which is why it's off putting

But, it is rng at end of day, even though I don't trust FP rng..

[west fog]

I reached level 15 in gems yesterday because I don't care anymore.

[last hazel]

I had to but entire set of Phoenix.
HQ, sentinels, relocation, so I bought all just on jungle Gems and mining Tycoon

[viscid ore]

But have the lv6 fiends decreased or is it my impression??☹️

[west fog]

Don't think they have, could be that someone else from your alliance just did them before you. Had the same problem with lvl5 just now.

It takes time for them to respawn, so waiting is your go to.

[viscid ore]

They do a minute of rally and 69 minutes of walking... they are brilliant

[tardy night]

They tweaked the spawn rate. Our state is dead as can be and we are searching for level 6 in a 100 km range where 50 would get 6 easily before. Members have not increased.

Maybe the 1 min rallies have changed how many of them are being done solo.

But they're not as frequently available as before.

[west fog]

Just can say that I found 5 of them easily near our hive just now. Maybe it depends on state group/age

So they removed the need for top up points in the current round of lights and colors. Finally something positive to say. Will mark this day in my calendar.

[jolly harness]

Cause most already spend some before the event was started 😂

[viscid ore]

As I said, therefore, they are diminutive, it was not just my impression 😆😆😆

they could create a treasure hunt type event... Whoever finds 6 LV6 in 3 minutes wins the Golden Tapir

🤔🤔🤔

[wide wraith]

reached 20, 24 and 27 in Gems without spending anything

and i was busy in rl so missed a lot of stuff

[pallid willow]

This dog is the best part of the game

[jolly harness]

epic crate

[sage girder]

Turkey bbq march is the best march ever.

[west fog]

Done

[pallid willow]

What was nice?

[west fog]

#📋︱feedback-discussion message

[pallid willow]

Ohhhh i didn't noticed 🙈🤣

I also think it's error tho 🤣🤣🤣 a bug

[marble grove]

So far 11 hours 44k bios

[tidal apex]

But they somehow keep talking that it is random drop 😄

[warped ruin]

Where did the lvl9 tomatoes, trees, iron, and oil and the lvl6 fiend go? I can't even find them by manually.. This is not the way to increase game time, but with fun events.. which are not there at all, just paid garbage..

[west fog]

Stop. Talking. About. Bios.

[tardy night]

I said it before, have devs remove them entirely from the accounts of those who post about it here.

They hate them so much they can play without them

[west fog]

Sometimes it's just about people getting what they're asking for (unaware of what they're actually asking for).
I'll just watch from the side lines from now on.

[jolly harness]

this can be a weekly thing for me

[warped ruin]

why 20 min the desert survival matching,.. i cant play since 3 days

I see no one cares about the weeks of lag, network lag, and unplayable events....

[forest kiln]

For sure, they just didnt tell what % of that random they put there. But anyway, this is the best event for bios so far.... since SOS exist, I think

I wouldnt mind if they do it be weekly or weekly 🤣

[coarse blaze]

STAB

[west fog]

A little stabbing could help indeed

[coarse blaze]

Try voodoo...lots of stabbing 🤭

[west fog]

But let's say it's another version of STAHP, to keep it family friendly.

[west fog]

Just saw what you did there, it shall be the default reaction from now on in secret SoS lingo.

[coarse blaze]

Thank you orange cat

[west fog]

Maybe we even can get an emoji from another server to make it easier

[tepid rivet]

[zealous plover]

SOS admitted nothing has been done about it yet😅

[coarse blaze]

And I wanna spend, make devs feel alright
I'm just so tired to share my biocaps
I wanna cry and I wanna spend
But all my cards have been declined

[silent pike]

Have you tried playing with a team? I have been able to play but only in a team

[warped ruin]

nope 😄 ill try tomorrow, thanks

[dusty hull]

The fishing event. There are supposed to be rewards for 30 levels, but I don't see how we are able to reach level 30 when our tasks all run out and we don't have any way to get more points?

[coarse blaze]

Next time

It built up

[dusty hull]

It carries on to the next event?

[coarse blaze]

Yes

[dusty hull]

Ok, yes, it says it in instructions

Thanks

[coarse blaze]

Congrats in advance for frame

[olive sluice]

what's wrong with those story tellers... did they get bored by their own stories?

[west fog]

copy paste sense starts tingling

But no, it can't be from another title, it's mentioning the apocalypse. So it's probably an AI story teller.

[coarse blaze]

What I see is "leviathan "

Probably next Mk

[west fog]

Yes, me too

Was there one in the title before this one that can't be named?

[coarse blaze]

Valdemor?

[west fog]

I mean, this happend
#📋︱feedback-discussion message

[coarse blaze]

When I see "noseless" heroes.. then I will quit the game

[silent pike]

Friendly reminder to post your bring em back codes here #⌛︱bring-em-back

[west fog]

Could as well release the Kraken then

[coarse blaze]

*insert "pull the lever Kronk"" gif

[west fog]

Got god gif? I got.

[coarse blaze]

I'm drinking here.. ok... *cus in Slavic

Impressive u watched all my redactions

[west fog]

It was like a flashing beacon, couldn't miss it

[coarse blaze]

Everyone love .. bacon

[west fog]

No that's bacon I presume

[coarse blaze]

S*ka

[coarse blaze]

Fix it

🤭

[west fog]

I like dogs... btw, could it be that we are off topic a bit?

[coarse blaze]

Probably

Maybe u need to move that sentence in pet chanel

[west fog]

Just making sure, as this channel is reserved for very serious and important discussions that have a repeat cycle of approximately 3 months.

[coarse blaze]

I think u misspelled 5 years

[west fog]

It repeats every 3 months for the last 5 years. 😸

[coarse blaze]

Yeah😂

[west fog]

Forget what I said after copy and paste, I'm sure now it is, after searching the play store for FunPlus games.
Or it's a very bad attempt at cross referencing 😂

[tardy night]

Does not have anything to do with any martians.

[west fog]

<insert wtf gif>

Is it too late to take the blue pill? I don't like this rabbit hole anymore.

[pallid willow]

Does the air balloon event ends today at reset? Or can we still use glasses stuff after reset?

This event i mean

[bright crypt]

Sorry for the late response, but we still can use the stuff for the event today

[marble grove]

500 bios for 24k bios? Nice 😂

[bright crypt]

It's very good, isn't it?

[west fog]

[tardy night]

Stab?

[pallid willow]

Is time to spam silly talk so that whoever spy that always tells devs dont see it 😒

[digital glacier]

Some people love to just ruin a good thing.

[digital glacier]

We will know who to blame when they remove this. @marble grove @marble grove @marble grove

We should go frog giggin 🤭🤭🤭

[digital glacier]

Use before 0 utc or lose it.
Just like how all the events nowadays seem to be.

[patent olive]

Free 144k biocaps everyday

[digital glacier]

And when they remove this because yall silly and advertise it here.
Who's gonna be crying then 🙄
Everyone that's who.

[patent olive]

I remember from fishing challenge after claim around 150 basic baits and 12 purple baits, they cant appear to claim anymore 💀

[pallid willow]

Who cares about stupid bait 😑😑 buy it you gonna buy it anyways so who caresss if its in claims rewards or not

You can buy plenty of bait in the store with the plenty shells you get from claim rewards stop complaining

When we dry asf in bios cause these stupid complaints then gonna complain cause you don't have bios 💀💀

[marble grove]

If I have no bio I blame myself anyway 🤣 but at the end of the day, I would like some items to play the event to use that store, than just bios every hour...

Or they could just refresh or add more types of fish to help get through collection with only starting bait 🤣

[marble grove]

And to this, I got 100 behemoths crates and now nothing to spend... but yay nearly 1m bios saved

[visual frigate]

I have 2.3 million bio.

LOL

I'd rather have bait and actual rewards

[olive sluice]

And when will the ignorant devs realise that the bazillions of events they drown us in will only drive players away? 😡

[visual frigate]

So guess what, in jungle gems the bonus arrived at level 10 again, to stop me progressing

But when you get to level 30 at the end, the bonus never arrives! It's always that 'fixed random'.

[tidal apex]

I had bonus on lvl 2 and 10...

[visual frigate]

Right. It's always at 10 but never at 30. It's always 33 or 35

[pallid willow]

Lol you have now, you wont have when they remove from events

[visual frigate]

I had them before those new events started

[pallid willow]

Well probably you will have cause bundles, but still not nearly as much as you wanna use freely like do now

[visual frigate]

Just do troop drill and you'll have all the biocaps you want

[pallid willow]

Well anyways, why even bother talking about it, as usual selfish spenders only caring about their "needs" that are not really needs

[pallid willow]

They can't, devs are stupid we all know that by now

[visual frigate]

I am f2p

You need combat morale to compete with the spenders, biocaps won't give you that, but decorations sold in the fish shop will.

But clearly you prefer to gorge yourself on your biocaps, thrown to you like bait by those with money and power. As you tug your forelock to them.

[pallid willow]

Im always beating people with more morale than me tbh, not all the times but a good 14 out of 20 matches on stuff for example, as long as is not like 200 morale , and cause I don't focus on pretty skins 😂 at least for me this wasn't possible before we got enough bios 🙃

But to me im happy when they prefer skins, most times it's useless for them if they are f2p tbh

[visual frigate]

Not skins, decorations.

Like abyssal worm, etc

Not only do they give you morale, they give your troops extra benefits

[pallid willow]

Also how much shells do you want per event tho devs are also not santa claus behavior type, they give but not enough to drive the spending away

With no bundles and only the free stuff i got 14k shells for the skins and stuff store already

Just gotta be smart on how to use the bait and when and well the trash rng of course but on the other 2 accounts i got at least 10-12k

[west fog]

I regret now that I didn't take a screenshot of Sarge saying "I don't even know what to say to this" a couple of days ago.

[stable cosmos]

Fishing event isn't a serious event anyway. Catch a few fish, build up your collection each time. You'll get there eventually. Its not like it has a limited time shop full of items that make you stronger

Some events, garbage as they are for events are just for playing. Not for progression

[lucid yew]

I won't complain about bios, but it would be nice if they upped the amount of claimable bait from the exchange store. Everyone empties their store pretty much by day two

[vernal moss]

Completely agree. We are offered quite a handful but the amount we obtain : length of event ratio it's severely one sided. Perhaps an option to refresh the store would be a great addition for some bios daily perhaps.

If you have any constructive ideas on how to improve the store please do give it a go in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[vernal moss]

I think the only rule i'd say to improve this is for the bait to not be recycled. Since it's already difficult to really play it past the first day as the store is all bought up.

[vernal moss]

The events can be nice however it's the value of the time to the rewards, I think we need more events with higher value rewards than multiple events with scraps to fight over.

But if you have any other ideas regarding this or improvement ideas to this problems please do share them in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[solemn kraken]

the Skin Store is good for people who either weren't around 3-4 years ago, or couldn't get the skins when they were originally released

[lucid yew]

I feel like they're giving a lot of stuff for free nowadays. The minievents feel more worth than the actual gameplay, which should be vice versa. This whole event took probably less than half an hour, compared to events like rr, koth, svs, cc. Which one is more worth rewards wise compared to time spent?

[vernal moss]

The older events definitely need an upgrade for the time we are expected to play. If you'd like, please share your opinion about the issue and the potential solutions you may have regarding it in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[vernal moss]

It is, definitely! Some skins are surprisingly overpriced however 🙈 The celebration airship collection items are a big culprit.

[stable cosmos]

Much as I'd like to upgrade the old events when they do so they ruin them and given they can't get themselves sorted for NEW stuff I'd prefer the old was unruined further.

For reference, fiend intel is giving chief XP and combat manuals. The stupid balloon thing had both those on offer as well. If they are making modern changes but including garbage there is no way they're improving an old event.

[patent olive]

Buy statue

[lucid yew]

I don't collect on purpose, except march cap statues 🤭

[patent olive]

Ultra statue (statue with skill effects)

[lucid yew]

Arguably the stats increase from other stuff is more worth for us mere almost f2p mortals 🤷‍♂️ personally i get the ultra rare decos only from jungle gems because they're so expensive in any store

[rocky otter]

Upgrading behemoth, t12, tanks, pets, aircrafts are toooooo much way better than 1 statue with skill

Also pls don’t mention much about fish event give much rewards

🤐

[wide wraith]

the first things to go should be both arenas they do and show nothing

[calm meteor]

I agree. Those skills are a nice add-on but not the most important thing.

[rocky otter]

Those statues are like a strawberry. You should make pasta well firstly and then add strawberries on top after 😂😂

[thorny plume]

I think we need more Events right now

We only have around 18-20 running at the same time

[stable cosmos]

Blackjack, roulette, 3 card stud. Texas holdem, horse racing, dog racing, plenty more poker machines. Go all in on the gambling, you're close enough already

[solemn kraken]

good to have extra chances at them, doesn't mean we should be able to get all of them, gotta prioritize and pick just a few

[stable cosmos]

And that is as it should be. Nobody in any event, including spenders, should be able to buy out an entire shop

[rustic fulcrum]

Hey guys

What’s the discussion about fish

[storm solstice]

discussion?

[tepid rivet]

When will we have bacon bomb HQ skin?

[cloud ridge]

That's the next event they release tomorrow

Screw it, whilst at it

Let's release valentines day event again

Release all the events and make the spenders spend

[jolly harness]

Since when Is pluton event with ranking as well ?😂

[visual frigate]

hmm, well I do have 16205 bullets saved

might come useful

[soft gulch]

Bargain Bash, after removing Splinters, they have reduced Behe crates from 150 to 100.
:\

[digital glacier]

Please bring back the original hero gear crafting method 🥹

[jolly harness]

It's a ' black Friday ' bargain bash this time. Prices will increase again

[thorny plume]

Shhhh we dont talk about that 😂

[last hazel]

Combat Morale is not something on which you can win a battle.
I have seen 200 CM beating 600 CM.
So its not true.

[tardy night]

He prolly thinks 599 vs 600 CM means 599 has a better chance at surviving than the one at 1 morale

[north moss]

I agree with Ni
I have seen many players winning a battle even against others with higher Combat Morale as well.

Even I, won a battle ...

[north moss]

Hi SoS!
A bacon Hq skin ? That makes me hungry
Maybe we should get that submitted

[north moss]

I really hope that we won't get the Valentine event ever again . Atleast not the way that it happened the previous years

[tepid rivet]

Feel free to put some feedback report for it, I don't believe in feedback myself 😊 And yes, everything tastes better with bacon 🤤 And garlic

[tepid rivet]

Participation is voluntary, not mandatory ~ CM Nanami

[wide wraith]

is that why she never communicates with the community, she thinks its voluntary and not a prt of her job

[cloud ridge]

Most pluton when first released had rankings then went through a phase when they stopped doing it, this is first in ages they've had rankings for Lara frags

[cloud ridge]

They make too much from it, so will be regardless of negative feedback and issues

[tepid rivet]

[cloud ridge]

I'd keep saving personally unless your pushing for Lara, which you shouldn't anyways as she's expensive as fk

[wide wraith]

unless she gets better after 4 star Lara isn't that special anyway

[cloud ridge]

Just not worth the thousands to max her, at 4* gonna be useless

[wide wraith]

so another over hyped POS just for those with more money than sense

[jolly harness]

4* and maxed skills and she's decent enough

[wide wraith]

but for the majority that aint gonna happen so will become anther Joker

[cloud ridge]

I'll start saving up then

[wide wraith]

another useless character because of the dumb hero styles

[jolly harness]

Like most resonate.
Most don't have LV4 or skills

[wide wraith]

its more to do with the top hero she resonates with namely Catherine

[west fog]

What is Maddie even talking about?

[stable cosmos]

There was some other text with the seasoning thing where they rehash the chef likes miho thing. Not that miho has been relevant for 4 years

[cloud ridge]

I feel as it's been ages since we've had thise style of event, it's just copy and pasted, no surprise and it's whatever themed event text being reused

If not then dno, it only showed up for me i think once I hit the 3 bonus rewards path.

They've made the dumb fp icon even more annoying

Now my game is shagged

[forest kiln]

Who knows... we still have a bunch of not limitless heroes, Miho included🤣

[tidal juniper]

Why are we now only getting bios from fishing event again?

The first day I had some baits and bonuses but not anymore....its been over 24h of straight biocaps

[wide wraith]

because we will use them up in nexus and rays place

[tidal juniper]

That's not an appropriate answer to my question...

I know where to use them..

[wide wraith]

then dont complain, the fishing is junk anyway

[tidal juniper]

Who are you to tell me what to do? And where do you see me complaining?

I just asked why are we now getting only bios again?

It was fixed and now broken again

[wide wraith]

no one knows the answer as to why, mods dont know and CMs dont care

[tidal juniper]

Thanks shadow...I just wanted to know that in case someone knew or something

[tardy night]

Because they know what people are doing with it, and they know what they want people to get.

Which none of them will tell anyone here. Or elsewhere.

[stable cosmos]

Super ghost fish for next behemoth

[tardy night]

Their weird art streak continues

[west fog]

So DemonKitty could actually be right about that Leviathan.

[west fog]

You just have to click it once, it'll calm down again.

[cloud ridge]

I still despise it

[opal hound]

It was top voted complain of last month. Apparently devs dont care about feedback reports here. So Idk what is the point of this channel here

[unreal lichen]

Well dev are removing Beyond the Cloud event, and players will no longer be able to access the store to trade items using tokens

[bright crypt]

Hello! you still can access the event page from the Event Center and use your coins in the store

[unreal lichen]

ah didn't see that. thanks

[bright crypt]

I’m happy to help

[west fog]

Btw, isn't it funny that they put neon signs on it shortly after the tip about dragging it into a corner was posted?
But they did a mistake, the corner on the screenshot is the right one, and so is the New sign.
Feeling a bit mighty all of a sudden, got to admit.

[digital glacier]

I'm not asking for obnoxiously larger text here. But. Please, can we get it just a little bit easier to read the numbers.
I mean, look at the difference between all the "0"

It used to be larger. Not by much. But some.

[sullen osprey]

Are you ok? Like.. Cmon dude 😂

[west fog]

People get strange with age. Even noticing it with myself already.

[sullen osprey]

And he is using the old client 😅

Or just his screen is too small

Maybe both, actually 😂

[west fog]

Let's add a feedback about an ingame screen magnifier function for older folks. Inclusion and accessibility are hot buzz now anyway.

[sullen osprey]

Even I have problems reading this 💩 lmao

But why do people use the old version, I don't get it. It's awful

[west fog]

You should see the German client. Numbers for ants everywhere for some reason.

[sullen osprey]

In some language packs there are no dots between numbers, that's even better 😂

[west fog]

If you're trying to forward any of this via ingame support, they're directly telling you what they think about it now with the new system. They don't want to see it. Heck, they don't even want you to see what you're writing.

[jaunty marten]

any mod in here to report this new task in SVS to change name properly, trying to do this in game and can't do, don't know why, thanks

[vernal moss]

Hi allexino, i'll have it forwarded for you. If you have a moment it would be helpful to also submit this to CS; just type in 'bug report' in the system and fill the form there!
It would also help with a #🐞︱bug-reporting-bot once you do! It's of course optional, just additional help to increase the processing speed.

[vernal moss]

I'd assume once you go to scroll up it removes the keyboard?
If so, we can forward it and see if we're able to have something sorted with that.
I may need to contact you in the future regarding device details if that's okay

If you want, just create something regarding it in #📋︱feedback-reporting that the ui is getting out of hand with the most simplest to the more important parts of the game.

[vernal moss]

There's many issues with the font sizes and the colors that the game gives us frankly. Reports with the green numbers with the charts are barely readable, the plasma level icon of the troops is reports also barely readable. There's a lot of quality of life fixes to be done with these.

Did you end up going over to #📋︱feedback-reporting regarding it at all?

[vernal moss]

Considering they like to push more useless things to be more readable, from the power play with the " 😏 " to try strategizing the player's emotion to the pop ups of KoTH every time this is the least they could really do. There's plenty of space there to give the players more eye relief.
Please do share this in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[zealous scroll]

They are all complete but i still didn't reach lvl21. I don't want to spend bios for this bug to try if it will work buying levels lol

[pallid willow]

Didn't the RR task used to cost 2 tokens?

[stable cosmos]

RR task has always cost 2 tokens. Is it more or less now? Now I'm wondering if it cost 3, i hope not, its not actually worth 3

[stable cosmos]

Feedback has been given on how it is literally difficult to read the text in mail because brown on beige is a bad scheme. That was given about 2 years ago. Its one of those horrible ones where they think they know best

[patent olive]

That 5th task is hero gene recombination

[hollow zinc]

Do we win anything in alliance duels? Cause it's the 4rth match we win and I see no reward lol.

[jagged jewel]

The reward for winning alliance duel is basically a part of the opponents points which helps your alliance rank higher in the migo ranking+the points from fighting help you rank inside the alliance for a free skin set and other rewards

[wide wraith]

thats if the enemy turns up otherwise you dont get any fighting points