#📋︱feedback-discussion
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I didn't pay attention to the inside settlement one
shouldn't it be from this page, that's the whole point
🥲
they add a feature to revive it during svs too
This is correct. 3 times a day svs we have this feature open: after the first stage of the battle, after the second stage of the battle and after the Free For-All stage (just not after third stage of the battle)
lots of us had the 19th as well. So the excuse of: 'tallying up for the last 24 hours' doesnt quite fly with this. SOS spent weeks hyping up this event & they didnt even follow their own schedule? It'd make one angry if they cared. But this game has a way of degrading that as well. It'd help to get a statement from the game but im not holding my breath
and how many read it? Im sorry but in game it says the 18th or the 19th, thats all. Take one or 2 days for calculation is just a false excuse. They lie everytime to the players.... Expected too to play this weekend to have a chance to qualify in a group i was putted even if i registered with big whales... At least i will not waste my time anymore for this fake tournament.
Yes I know don't many read it but its also in broadcasting center in game. Should be in event description as well also
No, they should have said until the 17th in the calendar on the event in game, not the 18th or 19th.
They do it everytime with the date its never clear. These 2 pics in the event game says the same thing... The 18th. Players are fooled as usual
Who in their right mind goes off searching for event dates when it is sitting right in front of you whenever you open the event as the SS above show
yeah players obviously should know to disregard the dates shown in game & to go into a subchannel on discord to determine when it ends. Totally makes sense. Knew it was my fault in the end
lol have a good day guys 😛
It’s ridiculous and anyone who tries to defend it with , oh it was posted here or there 2 weeks ago are as bad as the devs who messed this up in the first place
Exactly what I said in the morning. We shouldn’t be expected to go off searching if the dates are correct on the event itself 🙃
A feedback report was made about event times as well. You can find it here #📋︱feedback-reporting message and upvote it if you haven’t already.
I was coming here to paste this and I’ve seen people already posted
You do know that mods themselves replied it will continue today, right?
How difficult can it be to simply put up a disclaimer mail: last round to qualify for apex ends at xyz.
There were 50k+ players playing the qualifiers in zone 1 just in C group.
The community message board had around 8k votes on the apex betting.
You see the gap in how many would go looking for info regarding event timings?
I know😂
But one mod told me that will be until friday
So seems they had both version
Never trust a mods information... they are "just players" so they know as much as you... which is very little because game makes no sense
I dont know, I never care for the event... boring asf but it should be more clear if its a tournament
Bruh.. little bit more respect, mods doing the best they can 
Its impossible to know when this event, or other events end. This timeline is not very good, it says that qquilifiers ends 18.8 and eliminations start 19.8. Nothing about calculations for 2 days!! Sometimes it ends 1 day before, but never 2! As a resault o
Why cant we have the heal button all the time, not just during svs.
That is a good idea! Im sure a lot of players would like this suggestion, If you would like you can write feedback about it in #📋︱feedback-reporting using right format or you can also ask any mod to help you with it 
Just was going to suggest the same. Doesn't make sense to have it during CC, but not during 5 days of healing aftermath.
I like the idea of the quick heal button being around more as well. I personally don’t think I would need it all the time since attacks rarely happen outside of events but at least during the events where we know it’s going to cost players the most damage
What if they make a ranking about "State power"??
They wouldn't do that. Would make it too clear how rigged the matching is
Keep level 9 forever
But you have to hit the withdrawal button, if you forget and it completes the 24hr cycle it recall but doesn't resend
Thats my hunch
Hello survivors,
Please upvote my feedback. Thx.
The march speed one is a waste. Do that if you have nothing at all left yo spend it on. If you're worried about your spot you relo. If you're not worried the march doesn't matter
These are the bonuses and stats to work on, with mine exploration you will get march speed comes in handy if you far from. The mines
This time limited topup sucks, just card boxes for the first 100k topup
More likely to get Bianca, fits right in with some new heroes 🫡
And within their budget to afford 
Yes pls
Logic would dictate that instead of spamming 2-3 ads for buying packs upon login, they'd provide in game information, as you know... good games do.
Actually I'm honestly curious if the spamming of 3 ads when logging in and (other then me) who swapped multiple accounts was more of a deterrent to logging in then actually promoting sales.
New Pinball event is trash, meh rewards.
Even skin is just average
The topup event that came along also doesnt have great rewards.
Statue crates are stale and dont have statues from last 3 seasons.
They should tie up Jungle Gems to this, only that could save it.
New pinball is worse than prior pinball as you cannot earn any pinballs and the 1 free per day doesn't count towards any of the hunters lodge targets.
It also remains not pinball.
That's a great idea, basic info on heroes, stats or how much is needed to achieve a certain HQ level, it's a good idea for a feedback report
I think he talked about date information like Apex and that fake end date...
feel free most (non p2w) games rather then egregiously throwing out adverts for pack, inform their customer base about actual you know... in game information.
probably be a heckuva lot more beneficial throwing up news and features instead of a maddy pack when you first log in.
Yeah the Apex time frames, a lot of player where wanting to play on the weekend so they can qualify for next round. I think they will look into it as a lot has been said on it
Doubt. They won't do anything
😂 I know
they already have their algorithm down to a T to keep ppl spending
of course they wont do anything, why do you think there has been no CM for over a week, they know that this event is about at popular as a fox in a hen coup and thet messed up the running of it
Reminder that cm means company mouthpiece. Despite whatever it says on the tin.
why would they care when people are still throwing hand over fist money at them. These types of games feed on one thing only and that is ego, and it's the same thing in every "strategy" game thats on google or apple. If they actually cared about innovation they would've seen the popularity of the original POW and expanded on that, they would've actually listened to most customer feedback, but 4x games DO NOT CARE.
ewwww pow was just as bad, hate it
Ok then a better example would be back in the day a double rally would actually mean something, not just a stone wall, and a properly timed triple rally meant something... you know strategy.... I brought up pow because in the starting aspect of it, it actually brought strategy... origin stats meant crap, everyone was equal... but whales complained, so now it is where it is... now this most recent tournament, although I haven't played it, it's all just designed to have the whales feed upon everyone else.
morale killed CC and SVS
and what is morale if not a p2w feature, and it was more the aircrafts that killed it more then morale.
morale has to be the worst named feature in the game as it killed the morale of many players
i think its the addons that killed the game. All the things they added to the gears. When game started to not dend only from the gears.
spenders were going to spend anyway, and what did they do to exploit that, add something new "morale" but before that even came into play aircrafts were already decimating everything.
but all the skins just add to the lag
my heart would actually go out to a 4x game that actually adhered to an actual level playing field.
i only know of 1 game that is fairly level and thats a warplane one
because the developers, and more importantly the powers that be, DO NOT CARE. I've complained about overhead and memory leakage from day one, have they ever done anything to fix it, no... because why would they when ppl are pumping money hand over fist to them?
Why is there a HUGE space for absolutely nothing and a tiny space for the announcement??
because they don't care about your announcements. only theirs.
Ikr 🤣
10 very well presented emails every few days about fixing the prices aka making bundles more expensive lol
I don't think you see the issue
To put it more bluntly... If they actually cared about speech of the users, they would've allowed users to block people who have been abusing the system like ... the dude who spams ivar is dead... not to mention they would've machine blocked that user long long ago, but the devs are ... and I'm usually for devs, but this company seems to be hire a dev, and just hires whoever... the current dev team just seams to kowtow to the company line.
take this so called "new event" the skins are Ugly and its just a clone of last one of the same type even including snowmen marches
For one there is only 1 spot to upgrade.
The other there are many.
But the 1. Makes the many. Obsolete
Aka. Re-mine doesn't use march time. It's instant.
Why is there march time ones there.???.
re-mine doesnt work on mine
Yes it does
no it doesnt, still locked
That doesn't mean it doesn't work...
Reminder that this feature still doesnt exist. And only because its funny
it all depends... mines are an odd thing thats why when I was reading the thing about re-mine odd.. mines (unless they changed them) are always the power of the mine rather then the occupant, so when someone took my mine I took it back, was a meaningless fight, unless you were buffed to take the mine then you'd have to buff again.
Gotta unlock it first shadow
ohhhh why didnt they say that
think i know this thing since i started the game ... 4y ago, soon is very close 
But as I said. It's instant. No march time.
So kinda pointless for march time spots
I wouldn't spend on the march time anyway. Nobody is racing you for anything but a lvl9. And if you care that much about lvl9 you're either biocap speedups or relo
Also, if its normally 6 minutes reducing it to 3 would mean nothing at all. Total waste unless you have nothing else to spend them on
Could any mod kindly create a feedback report for this please? At least have the button a couple of days after CC and SVS.
Even better would be if the button was shown automatically whenever there are troops in hospital and hidden when hospital is empty. It's just tedious to have to enter settlement every 20 minutes just to do what one button outside of settlement can do.
In my rating that collection beat that most ugliest turkey march.🤦♂️
Feedback report created -> #📋︱feedback-reporting message
Please upvote 
Nice feedback
I laugh at the fact they actually know this enough that They gave us the options to turn it all off instead of fixing it😅😅
Good feedback. My laptop is scared when ever I talk about pix hive. Scared I'll open it and my laptop will explode 🤣
Lite Mode lol. A button that does nothing but give the belief to the masses it's still actually useful. Lite Mode hasnt been effective for years and makes zero difference. The fact that the game struggles on an i9 with 64GB and an RTX 4080 is astonishing. But keep pushing that feedback lol
@dry violet my low end PC can play SoS smoothly but my phone with 778G is struggling
Blame devs as always

Update on legion 1 problem... 
If you're in Legion 2, do you even see the accurate time for Legion 1? Because I had the issue yesterday where my L1 account had a different time, but when I looked from my L2 accounts, it said both legions had the same time.
I also don't know what your legion 1 problem was. Mine was they were displaying the same times across all accounts, presumably until I downloaded whatever patch that was yesterday, and then didn't realize our L1 was actually 03:00
Almost missed KoH
Thank God for insomnia
A sentence I never thought I would say
In our state, we never had a time for legion 1, nor an email. Legion 1 was matching until yesterday and completely empty today. The button with that great message just appeared.
I'm just looking forward to a great and plentiful compensation mail.😸
Oh I'm sure it will absolutely match the level of inconvenience, considering L1 couldn't even play the event.
"Sorry for the inconvenience please these these 100 bios 500 tomatoes et 5 skin tickets" 
🫠
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
I manifest more compensation 
I just wonder how they'll handle matching for next round now. There are no winners after all.
Or maybe everyone is a winner and gets full rewards 
I like this, max rewards and winner winner chicken dinner 
Do your magic, use your mighty mod power on them 
And I hope they don't forget to include two task passes for the migo task
Got distracted looking into my state and federal sweepstake laws since it's been about two weeks shy of a year since I won my dev chat with no word or communication regarding its scheduling.
Yeah, they should absolutely give comp for the KoH issue, HaBe. Hopefully you'll get something more useful than rss and skin tickets.
I expect nothing less than full koth rewards(and two task passes), because we obviously would have won 
And koh counts for migo too...
Therefore the two task passes 
Hello HaBe! That is a great suggestion! Would you like to put it in #📋︱feedback-reporting? I can do that for you if you want
I actually didn't expect that this has to be suggested and voted on for the devs to realize it. But if you say it helps them to realize the obvious, I'm all for it.😸
Do so please. 
Legend has it that everything is passed up, but things with more upvotes or down votes make the community opinions more clear. And also can get common topics to the Top Ten which is, like, the stuff we overall need week to week.
Whether or not they listen? Can't say, but in layman's, that's a little what the feedback process is.
I do think it's worth addressing that situations like this require compensation which is equivalent to the actual damage it can do to players accounts on KoH week when they're in that/those legions.
Is it okay if we work on the feedback in DMs?
👀
I saw you start typing
Sure, I already love to dm with you guys 
Was like "nuuu"
I bring joy every time I write here eyy 🤣
Lol
You know I adore the heckin heck outta ya
Legitimately one of my favorite people
I love the score
I like when it looks like all three teams are actually fighting
There's always that one
I was merely noting that apex will reward...200 people out of 75k+ from zone 1 with 1 single gold essence worth of rewards.
And nothing else.
And I know it's 75k or thereabouts cuz I tested it.
We had it last night and I was so worried they wouldn't show. It was a relief when they showed up and made the event so much more fun than normal.
green is strong, blu have 1 pp lregistered 😄

Tbh some of us even bet against us 🤣🤣😅
That was so much fun, and so much chaos in Stage 3
😂😂😂
That's at 37/40 in 1 match. Add 11500 from a+b & whoever had worse results at 38/40 or below 1 Match.
And out of all these, 200 folks might win 1 gold essence if bets are going their way.
Massive devaluation in annual tournament rewards.
Doomsday almost seems better 🤣
Props to fart+. They made close to 100k peeps waste 1 hour getting crushed by whales across game
I registered but haven't even played it.
I wonder what would happen if people did that in tournaments. Registered but then decided not to actually do it. Like... What would happen with their metrics? How much would that affect the tournament and everything?
That would be nuts.
They'd probably try and force it in MIGO or something
Shadyyy
Delete this
0.2% of the crowd gets to have 1 single item.
99.8% gets....
Can I have a goat?
And a dev chat?
But since we're getting pets no one wanted, can I have my goat finally?
Please?
I've been asking for three years.
I wanted it to be a march, but if you gimme a companion goat... I... I might actually behave more often. Not much more, but more.
Gimme my dev chat too and I think a noticeable uptick in good behavior would occur. Ish.
Kinda
A lil bit
What's the law like regarding punitive damages for such an instance in your region 
Their ToS doesn't say anything regarding them being able to pull out of setting up promised meets.
Depends what it's classified as.
That's true, and the FTC as well as my State AG would be better poised to determine its status. That said, because it has no cash prize, requires no purchase to enter, is open to any player and only requires engaging in a select area, and is presumably random chance to win, it follows most of not all of the technical guidelines of a form of sweepstakes.
I'm sure they could also be more of a solid destination regarding what is a reasonable length of time for a company to wait before awarding the prize.
But I bet a year isn't it
Just a guess
Feedback for full koth compensation -> #📋︱feedback-reporting message
👀 an isolated case or did it occur for many folks? Cuz isolated case they will just tell you to inform all members affected to contact cs while feedback doesn't get enough votes or attention from mods to get to either a priority list or top feedbacks which move forward.
Our koth chat is full of it today
if we look the feedback and the bugs it seems that its not an isolate case, i cant wait for the mail compensation 
Okay, to the folks who have the same issue, please just upvote the initial report.
If there's a range of states, a mod can alter the report to reflect the states affected.
and as i said Koh counts for migo and some players will not have these points and it will affects their rankings, so i think that FP need to react very quickly to that players will be not penalized by the bug...
@north moss instead of just deleting the additional state numbers, it would've been better to add them to the report🙃
They have to delete reports which aren't technically reports, or duplicates, but that's why I said a mod can edit the initial report as well.
Ama knows what's up
We have reported it already. No comments were deleted to be removed or hide anything.It's just that we need to follow the format in that channel.
My co-mod will add it to the report also as Liannin said 
I didn't know if Danu was the one who had to, but that clears it up
Understood, I just don't remember the state numbers, do you?
i do remember them and i have messaged my co-mod
Should be in the server logs if needed, but it's probably been noted as well
Ama is legit, I vouch
Perfect, thank you 🙏
If you want more states added, you can message the mod that makes the post. 
Lianninnn 

I hope that you are ok 
to add ,regarding the Koth issue, many states are affected. In order to help the dev team locate the issue further, I would recommend reacting with 🔼 in the bug report that was made for this issue and opening a ticket in game to CS
#🐞︱bug-reporting-bot message It's been already reported anyways and normally when issues like this happens, they give compensation.. I just hope that it will be a good one if we get one
oiii don't worry , it's totally ok! we are all here to help 
and the most important the migo points for it... It needs to not be forget
nope it wont be
speaking of the bug reporting channel, i hope that you like our bug reporting bot 
I'm... Short answer is yes. Life was doing what it does, but I think we've got an understanding for now lol
@rustic minnow hello! Kindly check your dms
🤭
I think one of my favorite things about the game is how some days, it takes over a minute to log in, even after restarting the device. Trying to switch between accounts is a lesson in patience.
And I stg if a mod says "maybe it's your device/connection"...
It's not. This game is ridiculously resource heavy and getting worse.
On an Android phone 
Hi liannin do you have too many unread mails? from players and other system & alliance mails clearing those mails will help load game faster also old graphic version and running on 30 fps helps too you can try that and see if it makes any difference
Yea also this, so heavy 🤣
From a game like SOS it's not normal it's not optimised. As I said earlier do u think it's normal that it takes in memory as much as a game like Fortnite?
And even in a powerful phone the game always has lags. We need a super calculator to run it almost correctly?
And repair the game when it takes like 10go of datas, for small internet connection it's very hard to redownload it... Everyone dont have fiber....
I checked for me it is 8.43gb of data i think we should submit a suggestion about this hopefully they come up with some solution to consume less data have you tried offloading the data and then reinstalling it? It still consumes same space?
I have it on multiple devices and it consumes the same space.
On my computer in memory it took with one only account open more than 1,5go of memory like a FPS like Fortnite, it's just huge. And even if I decide to run it through my graphics card it runs very slowly. For a game like SOS is, it's not a normal running.
We are not running a realistic game with very detailed graphics.
And when I said it take 1,5go of memory it's just on normal use. I didn't look at it when there is big events like cap or svs...
I upvoted it when u posted it 😁
Is for the mod 🫡
Thanks i upvoted it too
I was at 1,3go looking at my hive, I looked in the map, make some zooms and it grows at this point.
Funniest thing is that it never decrease even if we back to hive...
Why always this snowman?
cause i haven't maxed it yet
It's hilarious how we can literally watch how this taxes our processors, whether mobile or PC.
It's almost like people have been complaining about this for years. Oh. Oh. Ohh. They have. And it hasn't improved.
"Unread mail" would be another thing which is unnecessarily resource-demanding, just like reading battle reports or claiming daily mission crates is. Those are basic things which shouldn't be as taxing as they are, and yet here we are and a mod is asking if mail is the reason it took over a minute to log into a mobile game.
add hide "chat"option for migo and state chat.
Like u block someone and no longer u can see their message so do something like that for migo and state chat
That's a great idea, you could make a feedback report for that here #📋︱feedback-reporting using the format pinned in the channel or you could reach out and i could help you make one 
yeah make one ill upvote ✅
I can do that for you
Is there a specific reasson for wanting for the "hide chat" function that i could use for the report?
dm?
Old UI already mess now
Old UI only give 20-30% faster
Level 9 Crystal mines and Level 9 Limestone mines are empty because everyone needs coal. Turn all level 9 Limestone and Crystal mines into coal mines.
It already works if you block them in your contacts. It will hide them in chats as well.
Not enough mines again, it’s boring 🙃
Limiting Level 9 coal mines causes major headaches every MIGO, It would be better to double the coal mines, and lessen the coal/minute than to keep it as is now. You want people to enjoy the game? then stop creating these tension and stress situations in states
I am so sorry to hear that you are not happy with the crystal mine feature. You can submit a feedback in #📋︱feedback-reporting or I can help you write one
You know how much feedback has given before on this, ye?
We complained about it last migo. Changes made, functionally none. We complained first migo too although with the exchange rate level 9s were more a source of discord than a problem. Now they're both. F---plus will not be fixing anything or they'd have done it already.
If its not clear, the solution is spend money and buy coal.
Why bother having level 9, 8 Limestone and Crystal mines when everyone wants, needs Coal. The other mines are useless, for now. So everyone in the state is jockeying for the limited coal mines now, and of course, tensions and stress rise for all.. Tensions and stress do not make for a fun experience.
Dev response remains spend money.
Hi, Monroeville! I completely agree with you. 😐 That was the nice thing about the Nexus map. We all got a personal alliance space to mine on. How’s your state coming along with the State Event Tech? Completing this will open up more for your state.
We are one of the more active states, so I can't imagine how others cope when it takes so long to open up more coal mines.
Yeah, sadly, that is a reality. Hopefully, if the state is less active, it means they have enough to go around.
We can still talk about coal conversion
?
When the search works perfectly, don't show u mines that are all taken 
It’s always taken me to full ones along with available ones. I just thought that’s the way it was. 😂
i want state chat and migo chat hidden i just don't want to see any of those chat fr nd i ain't filling ny blocked with strangers
Include koth chat too please. Not needed.
Also, if one state has 500 active people and another state has 100 active people, do they both get the same number of Coal mines?
If it isn't proportional to the amount of people in the state, then that is also something that needs to be addressed.
Atrocious. First they limit the number of coins and increase prices of items. Then they spread the betting across an increased amount of uncertain bets so people stand to lose everything.
Crap tournament. I hope the gambling addicts notice.
Most barricade uses - really? What kind of a bet is that to place.
Is it per player? Throughout the duration of the match from the entire 100 people on map? Vaguely worded enough to make people lose whatever paltry sums you gave out at all.
Crap gambling. Expect nothing more from the fake casino 🫡
And they changed it from a bet made by seeing 20 to 40 players to a hitherto unseen scenario of 100 peeps on 1 map. So everyone is flailing with a guess at best. Just the way fart+ likes it.
Can you remove the apex badge so we don't need the "more events" button if we aren't even in apex? 🤣
lol really
If your troops don't die enough, it's not worth it.
so its for the players that forgot to get back they're troops during svs
Elimination round for apex is Thursday, AD fighting is also Thursday @merry scroll you should tell the developer that cloning failed even in medicine and will fail in SoS
Exactly. Especialy for people forgot to bubble, have been zeroed and to late to revival them.
Wonder how much training those would cost in speeds and rss versus a $20/1,999 diamond bundle
200k for $20. Meh.
@merry scroll the apex bets are too vaguely worded and can be interpreted to mean many things. Can they phrase them better to inform players what those bets actually mean?
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Most kills by 1 player or most kills by players in total (not by mist) per Match
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Longest surviving time (total sum of survival time in a match across players of 1 match or longest surviving time of 1 player )
3 - 5. total uses of items in 1 match by 100 players or by an individual in any map for that day?
Right now they seem worded to just make players lose all their tokens via betting. I doubt that's the intent?
I don’t understand this bet. What does this mean??
How many you shall kill, how many minutes you shall survive and etcetera!
cant be you after all, those who ignored the event also have it
You mean those who did not qualify? Hmm will have to check that in that case again
It reads like what will be the most likely of those to happen. If someone makes 20 kills in a match and you bet on that one you win.
It is however as shoddily worded as everything else this dumpster fire company does
It's overall
so thats 3 different options hmmm oh wait there is a 4th, who cares
In the migo store. Will there be a discount on skins? If you take 1-5th place in the rating
No. It seems there is no discount item in this migo season.
If it was you would be easy to win the bet wouldn’t it..😅
Not always :S
Welcome to scam+ game 🤣
I was very happy to see you can choose top3 recommended timeslots for yourself from worst times ever, and see all of your fights are at impossible time. Thanks didnt even want to play it 
Yes they choose my worse time as well. This game and devs sux
Diabolical, give some hope for once and then all revoked once again away. I'll once again go play tetris more than this
Then im lucky. Got what I want🙈
They didn’t select time I picked for mine 🤷♀️🥳
What was the point of time selection
Exactly there was no point for time selection at all. That excuse is poorest thing I've ever heard. From 3000 players there isnt "enough" players for my selected timeslots

Just once again it shows how small they care 🤣 Or promises something and doesnt deliver,,,, anything
They gave same slot across all accounts that qualified for me. Gonna kill myself for rank 99 
That's really unfortunate, you could make a feedback report for it here #📋︱feedback-reporting using the format pinned in the post or you could reach out and i could make one for you 
If you can tired of submitting things here for no change
I am gonna block him but this guy has been doing this for 3rd day already. Maybe something can be done
Oh congrats, you have that guy in your group. CS won't do anything, no mod ever stops it, block and hope he doesn't load an alt
Unless CS is willing to go permaban his main accout he will do that forever
At the beginning I thought it was a bug
But nope
Hello wellagain. You can contact customer support and send pictures of the spam. They will usually deal with it although thats just for a limited amount of time. Alternatively you may block the person who is spamming the chat..
CS suck in this instance. Repeat offences, of which this guy has mamy should escalate the punishment. 24 hour mute is a speedbump
Offcourse i can, give me a minute to make one
hey, the bet questions ares superly unclear. I have delivered the complaint to Dev team, they will fix that.
Here's the link to your feedback report https://discordapp.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606/1275023965005414411, please let me know if you want something added or changed so i can change it for you
No that’s fine it won’t make a difference anyways. If people can get in without registering the feedback is pretty irrelevant anyways. They do this all time with time events 
It never hurts to try 
I feel more sorry for group c who have people should be group a because you don’t need to register super fair event groupings🤌
The trick was not to play. Now that I'm out i can play normal SR. Possibly with no whales in it
Indeed, to be honest I stopped even playing in group B. My friends in group C faced android and some famous sos youtuber. All monsters. Feedback from Group A was super easy. Yeah there was some of dyz but they never met them.
Ingredients savers 10 dishes completion with catastrophe rating.
1/1
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This will save Ingredients if you lack Ingredients.
The point is, if majority of us knew that group C would be possible to play for everyone, majority would have skipped registration
except that didnt work i got 4 perfects using thar method, only thing that does is do one of all the dishes
This method save a lot of materials compared to the original Ingredients they give
That was before they decided to make the materials expired
i lot i know skipped registration and playing because we hate SR, it is even worse than the desert and POW
as you dont need set recipes after that use 1/1 to finish any catastrophic ones
oh i know a few of them lmao
Another thing about Apex, it's really unfair for those who were doing royale regularily.
I didn't have any extra tickets so I had only 5 chances, while those everyday royale slackers had billions of chances to improve their score 😅
just when you think it can't get any worse, they invent a new money-eating feature!!
🐼🐯🐷🐨🐶🦁🐹
Prime opportunity to give me my goat and they wasted it. Wonder how that dev chat is coming along?
Sooo are devs gonna do something about to few lvl 9 mines again,
Hey Isaura، there's a feedback for this here #📋︱feedback-reporting message please upvote it 
thank you
That's why it's called a p2w game. That initial decision by the devs will influence every following design decision to come.
You're very passionate about your dev chat, aren't you?😸 how did you win it?
The very first Camp Cafe
I was one of the winners
It's been almost a year since
Still no dev chat, and I followed every instruction to claim it
Have even had the help of multiple community managers and mods here to see if maybe, just maybe, they'd wanna talk to lil old me.
I'm beginning to think it's personal

But I wouldn't take it personally, it's quickly promised to win players and then quickly forgotten if it was successful. That's business sometimes unfortunately.
Lol I've been here for almost five years; if anyone is aware of the climate, it's me.
Am I still the person with the most posts on this discord? Is that still a thing?
Someone?
And then there's this nugget

So it very well could be personal lol
Tbf they don't even pay attention to their CMs sometimes, so I'm feeling like one of the team lol
They also probably don't think they can discuss paid features with me, and spending ideas, which is just silly.
But why?
Why do they think that? A few reasons
They prolly think I wear f2p like a badge of honor. Or that I'm only going to focus on what players can get for free.
In reality, like many other people here, I have opinions regarding the balance between paid and free, the power gap (which is intentional, but is too wide), and the use of p2p players as a crutch to prop up a company which makes continued bad decisions and questionable investments.
But I also write news about FunPlus on another player server, and they do have people there, so they know I'm highly critical as well
I'm no different than any other player, though, when it comes to how we feel about things, and our concerns about the development, which is why it's silly to actively avoid scheduling a dev chat for an entire year
I think there could also be a bit of trying to wait players out. Those of us who were awarded these from earlier Camps, and not received them, might have already quit the game or given up waiting, which means the devs can focus on the newer players in newer states who are often more pressured by the rushed development and release schedule to spend.
What the listening walls should probably feed back to them is that I am inordinately patient. I can wait, too.
Go for it, you've got my cheer 
If those 6 from last time stopped posting, this place would see less than 20 posts on average per day. 
Cerb and future already disappearing into lurk mode I guess
F2p has become a badge of honor and principle for those with brains, who can see problems and refuse to ignore them like some whales.
Problem lies in fact that as long as company makes enough profits, they wont care.
And once profits will drop below expectations, they might just close project instead of fixing all their mistakes.
Check Gamigo. True ghetto company which ruined lot of decent games with poor management, famous for milking playerbase and then just closing.
I remember glassdoor review of them... "job for desperates" lmfao 😂
Well, future had to step away for work, but I haven't seen him really since.
@harsh owl you good, buddy? Missing you here.
And Cerb did admittedly take a step back from this place for his own reasons, which I fully support and understand.
I'm just a stubborn old goat.
So... why do my 2 accounts get different rewards for "bonus level" at same tier? Finish 10 both get bonus round and one gets 8 pickaxe and other gets 12? Even though both take 2 picks for 1 tile
They are random imo, previous event I got eggs as well from bonus levels. This time I just keep getting bios as idle rewards, so annoying 😒
Hey Frog, i think they may be random but i got 12 aswell...let me see if there's any official info on this and get back to you real quick
But I would prefer to be able to skip the bonus levels if they don't give the same... I would prefer the pinball over a statue ill never get maxed
But no we get forced to waste pickaxes because they give you ones with full size gems
Agree but HQ skin crate is not bad rewards for free, but right would be nice to have a chance to skip bonus levels if you don’t want to waste pickaxes on it.
Alright i couldn't find any related info other than bonus levels trigger randomly but nothing about their rewards being fixed for everyone.
However to easily skip those levels you can use the bombs you get and punch your way through it.
To easily skip levels spend 12h of progress (if pass 10) or 21h if below... yes so easy 1/6-1/3 of the event
I think there is a bug in text, bonus levels are not randomly trigger, but rewards from them yes. 😅
Yup, this might be the case
I know it's kinda frustrating but i could get to 35 easily by saving the axes & using bombs for bonus levels.
That's all luck... I buy magnifying glasses to not spend double guessing where smaller gems are
And bios and bios again, 4th time that only bios comes. I’m sure the next hours rewards will be bios as well
And then you have to hope to get actual event items and notjst bio ^ like that 🤣
I had an entire day or two of just bios
I know it is my bad bc last week I used 1.2M bios to reach new vip level and cried on AC that I need bios, but not on this way😂
I use all my bios constantly... need more random "achievements" that make no sense
Wait, you guys actually get bombs?
2k coins
In my case, I also always get the lowest possible reward from those lucky chests, maybe I'm just paying too much and are nerfed to pay even more.
The higher your level is, the better you get rewards... But that 100% depends on your luck to be honest
It's nice to have a chance of getting more bombs with higher levels, but I don't seem to have a chance to get bombs at all ever.😸
😂 you're not alone, I usually get bios but well I know my luck
bro needs to check the reward, reward is no egg

i've never gotten an egg in this event
You can get an egg from the event but it comes from the 3rd bonus level and all bonus levels after that
i've never gotten it though 
My allaince members did
Let's hope that this time arround you will get one 
The bonus level is random to each player for the egg I got at 22 last time and my lady at 25 so might be after that
Or not at all
that's what i thought as well
i'm not complaining though, still a good event nontheless
Yeah hopefully it's drops theres a skin crate in that bonus too
Vega in group C. Riiiiight…. 🤦🏻♂️ Devs, I despise you. Just how big pain is some weak players getting something valuable (that whales can’t put their claws on) is for you, that you create a false “three groups by players power” and then implement everything to ensure all prize spots in all groups in all categories is shared between top100-all-states bunch only… I will never believe a fairy tale all those whales just forgot to register.
I'm in the 1XXX state, we have the big wolf ( ranked 4th in SOS 44B BP ) in our group
so glad I didnt bother with it
Why isn't there an in-game explanation of Apex Clash betting? Who are we betting on? Ourselves? The whole group?One match? What? LOL
I dont think even the Devs are daft enough to have you betting on yourself
Since even players who did not qualify can still place bets I will say, bet on the scenario you believe might take place. Let me get some more info on this for you
I dunno, they proven to be rather daft in the past LOL
i just wanna be able to hide the icon now
YAS, YAS😅
Hi zennin, not only the forget to register but strategically refusing to register for grouping C will be the cause of many whales in grouping C.
For these issues and unfair play for the low level players who registered and still got placed in C group it can ruin their game for sure.
I’d encourage to make a #📋︱feedback-reporting about this as it’s something that should not of been implemented in the first place.
To be fair, I am not saying he is not strong, but he also has so many troops that's ridiculous
He is strong, but the BP is due to massive troop amount which is wowzie
The skin crate is a really nice bonus to get our hands on. Hopefully these stay and without any potential nerfing.
Optimize your game not more events, this game cant even run at 60 fps
I’d recommend sending this to CS too. They should be handling it appropriately since it’s becoming an issue for many players. Apologies for the inconvenience bocchi.
Even I have to force restart every few minutes because the fps drops drastically to, 2-4 - 10 if I’m lucky. However it sticks to that state until force closed.
I will add to co mod Thief, which of the game versions caused it? as due to many icons I'm assuming it's several versions which not all are FunPlus official
its not what the devs wanted? Feed the big Trex with the little goats to satisfy them and make them happy like they do everytime?
I mean, cmon, create four, five, ten, twenty groups where all whales fit and take top rewards and are satisfied. But please, oh, please create a group or two for smaller players ONLY already, where whales CAN NOT get in and can’t rob smaller players of those few rewards they can get…
This apex clash group C is insulting, I dropped it after DYZ guys appeared on top places, now Vega is there, Eros, and many others… I have zero motivation to be cannon fodder to please those moneybags
You know players like VEGA are pussies. They spend and spend, but afraid of a challenge. They have no skill and can only win by spending. Whoever anyone with an ounce of tactical awareness comes, they get slapped. Many whales pussies out for easier matches. They are weak human beings.
I hope reminding about the quick healing button once a day isn't considered spam -> #📋︱feedback-reporting message
there will be another pet shop building, and there are already many ugly buildings 🥲
after the pigs ear they made of Apex, hopefully they will cancel the pets
they would only cancel it if it was free
@sweet copper I care about PZ. Need those daily Maddie frags for when she's limitless
pity you wont be able to get limitless maddie capsules
What 👀
when you get the gen skip they miss out Gens 13 and 14
If i still play then. That's next year 😂
its a pita
Nanami sticker again? Can devs fix this!! We already have like 20 of them. Let us pick any sticker from all of the ones available
Very true. I don’t know why they can’t give us gold to red frag conversions. Some states had it but not all. They pushed 4 gens and it’s impossible for us to max those first limitless hero’s
Hi Jennifer, you can reach out to CS regarding the sticker crates to have them exchanged for a general sticker crates if you haven’t yet.
Try contact CS, I got 6 non nanami sticker crates
No one can still explain this to me. This betting is too useless. Rather keep the coins I have than bet on this cause I don’t get it… “most kills” by whom??
You guys keep forgetting this. Some people don’t care and don’t register and then are placed here.
That’s a loophole in the game
It's more to judge on the the group schedule you place your bet looking into the participants, yourself included if you made it to the elimination stage. As you can tell will the dates up top so 08/21 choose your bets there
I really don’t understand still… what does “longest survival-how long” mean?? What bet am I placing there and who am I betting on or against??
What is 17m-18m or 0-17m??
True but if most did not play they will have been eliminated on the qualifiers stage,
Not really. Don’t register and get placed in group c then participate and get past qualifiers
I think that was done so that if players don't take part those who registered, those who change their mind and did not register will still be in the event to balance the participation
And your right it's not fair as a strong player cna come in at that point and win
It's minutes
You can place the bet putting yourself in contention to win, last the longest or even use the most Rocket launchers. Or just place the bet on the concept that the is a player that will achieve that.
I also don't understand who or what I'm betting on
Where EGG???
So why do players who didn’t qualify get to place bets on themselves if they are not in the competition anymore
no one seems to know exactly how the betting works
Vela’s joy thinks he knows but I think he is giving wrong advice
best guess seems to be its overall
or possibly highest player
but no one actually knows
the other option is to hell with the betting and just spend the free coins
Hi guys, just making sure I did not miss anything, is the island the only place to get splendor so all statues still needs to be placed there ?
mansion as well
Okay so I can put statue giving bonuses there, I just used it as a dumping ground for none splendor stuff , I will put some stuff there then .
The island is a hot jumble up mess
i used mine as a dumping ground at first too but added some huge statues there also
I had it looking so nicely put together then they keep adding all shorts of random sized decorations and too much constantly do I gave up with it looking nice a long time ago 🙃
Yea I will change around mine , I love the Halloween ghost , wish he can be in my settlement though eith all halloween stuff
Just tested it, you only have to build decorations once anywhere after receiving them for the first time. Then you can hide them again, splendor and bonus will stay
Isn't that for hero statues alone ? Thanks for testing to
I tested it with different decorations. Stats didn't change.
Sweet , I remember they addressed it some time back but can't remember and they lie so need to be sure
I will move about some stuff cause my island makes me feel like I am crazy
Thank you both for your responses and time
You can easily check it yourself if you click on the splendor value top left in island view and then in bonuses overview tab bottom left.
The betting reads, badly, as an overall result. So if you bet on the 17-18m option, if someone survives for that long you win your bet.
It is badly worded though. The options are stupid. But i read it as betting on an outcome rather than a person. Like saying "the first touchdown will be scored in the first 10 minutes" doesn't matter who, or which team, just that it happens
'Not sure if a bug' but a question I noticed they've added the claim all on dailys on all states now. I usually claim the end of the day and I had to click 'claim all' 3 times is that how it should be?
Hello!
Some tasks have a few tiers to complete, like the donations, so you claim all for each tier.
Ah ok they're going change that right?
You also can submit one feedback report about it, so they can improve the feature 
Let me know if you need any help!
Well when I read they added that feature they said they were changing it that there wasn't any tiers
Like all the gathering into 1
I understand, let me see if I can get more information 🤗
It's still unclear whether tiers are a bug or just something to be improved in the feature.
Since it's a new feature, we can either wait a bit to see if this gets fixed or we can submit one feedback report with the improvement suggestion.
Boring asf having to wait hours just because I need to complete this bonus levels for the 10+ afk bonus... but costs 11-20 pickaxe cost... makes total sense
At the 12h mark and still not complete it... so I have to now stay up till 6am if I don't wanna waste rewards 🤣
Not sure this is correct or no, but RR is once in 2 weeks... and yellow oils should be 120 no?
RR is once in 2 weeks, but it gives 20 not 120.
It doesn’t add up. Then definitely someone will last 20 minutes cause there will definitely be a winner.
Most kills has 25-99… 25-99 of what exactly?? There are only 20 people.
The betting doesn’t make sense. I’d rather not bet anything than throw my coins on what I don’t understand. None of the betting makes sense
No it gives 20 with KOtH. I think it’s AH that gives that or another event
You can’t even last 17-18m. The game isn’t that long. One match is about 8-10 minutes. Nothing in the betting makes sense.
Who are you betting against?? Yourself or others?? Those numbers “1-9”, “17-18”, etc what do they mean?? It’s just a sad excuse to take the coins
Yeah. What she/he is explaining doesn’t add up. So much flaws in the explanation but I get they are trying to help.
It doesn’t make sense. Except you just want to randomly place bets on what you don’t get, I’d suggest sticking to doing nothing and get your daily coins.
I'm not talking like its definite. Just how it reads to me. You are betting that someone in a match achieves those things. Whether those things are achievable is obviously stupid.
If 17-18 is impossible, and it is unless the devs decide the results themselves, and its just "did someone live for X time" that is at least an easy bet to win
Collect all button for daily missions doesn’t work. It doesn’t collect all missions. I have to click many times to collect
But there is this feature in ptr nearly one month. How can still be broken ?
Hello buroo, would you like to create a feedback for this issue?
I see how it can be frustrating
I can’t now. Working time. Just wanna check others having same issue as well
I can write it for you if you'd like
Okey if you are free pls
Of course, I will get on that right now 

Sorry for the tag! #📋︱feedback-reporting message here we are, let me know if you'd like to edit anything at all 
It’s all good. Thank you 😊
Anytime! 
Will your map change to a 100 person map as well or not?
Zone 1 will be a 100 person map. So throw all calculations out.
The person who wrote these bets clearly did not want people winning their coins or they didn't sit and give 1 second's thought to how they would be interpreted.
And it's written like that even in Mandarin. So not a translation error.
Devs put claim all on daily crates but you still need to click them a couple of times lol
15 bets to place, minimum bet is 200, people lose 3k coins i.e almost everything they worked on.
Game management ends happy. They made people play for peanuts while spending hundreds.
Looking forward to the complaints that 99% of participants end up with nothing from the event.
I tell the same thing to whoever asks: stay away from the bets. You are 100% right, it's a sure way to lose everything they worked for.
We know the house always wins but this time they really took it to the next level
Most of the time in this game the only way to win is not to play.
i just wish i could get rid of the red dots for the gambling, if i cared who won i would have taken part in the stupid event
They know what makes people check things out. The red dots are a deliberate nudge to go for bets and lose everything.
they can stick them where the sun doesnt shine
Hi emman! I just did a feedback here #📋︱feedback-reporting message for the issue you've mentioned, feel free to upvote! Sorry for the ping 
Hi everyone! Sorry we can't help with the bets, Saberlot forwarded the issue to the Devs and it's currently being worked on

its a little late to be messing with the event, maybe if it had been properly coded and Tested BEFORE release they wouldnt need to work on it now
#📋︱feedback-reporting message here's a feedback about the betting system you can upvote 
I'm sorry, it's very frustrating
Currently, we haven't received any information that it's changing to 18+
oh i know its not but any form of gambling is illegal under 18 in most countries under 21 in some
You can bring this concern up to an lmod if you'd like
we do every time but the Devs ignore it
The good thing is, we as community here, try our best to make the game better
these events are specifically gambling therefore break Fun+ ToS
the gambling should have a separate opt in like the auctions have
Would you like to create a feedback for that? It's certainly a good idea
no point as the Devs wouldnt make any money on it
If you change your made let us know, we will be happy to help you with it 
Devs wouldn't implement in a timely manner anyway. We might see the gambling vanish in a years time. Faster if a lawsuit kicks off about it though
I need help <@&628563208164081690> to find a feedback. Operation festival 5 days, put it back 7 days, please
Hello crim. Sorry i don’t quite understand, are you saying that the event duration should be 7 and not 5 days?
Wish there is skip animation or like plunder button for chef event 🔪
totally agree. makes me so lazy. its a great suggestion thought. you should do up a feedback here #📋︱feedback-reporting !
or I can help you with one if you rather.
Good day, is there any roadmap when we get the building circles animations back for the special sets?
Do you mean the aura from the MIGO sets?
Dev feedback is dumb as usual
Devs doesn't have any supervisor? 😂
Those are just developers, I'm pretty sure they are told what to do
They've nerfed jungle gems, wanting to remove fortress fight when all they have to do is update rewards, won't actually streamline and remove tedious tasks and events
@merry scroll @feral sinew
That dev feedback has reached a new level of useless, and so has this server. Completely pointless giving any kind of feedback
tell them to change it back as it was before
the only good thing is the collect all button
what's point of add more tasks if you going to nerf others tasks
train troops is 20 only now
This one. I literally laughed out loud🤣🤣
This one is funny too 
They need to discuss bout it sarge frags are still useful, nice 
They think a legendary frag in that store is worth 90000 currency, utterly mad
Did they say something about Apex bet . we bet on ourself or what
there's no arrangement for it currently, we have received your feedback and appropriate improvements may be considered, stay tuned!
They've basically just leaving us all on read and going on with their day
Feedback has been sent to the devs and they should let us know or give better descriptions on the betting
Oh they did change the dailies. These are now meant to make you spend materials? Use a serum or chip? If i use a chip i am using 20+ of them. You'd better finish all my dailies in one sodding go
One serum sure. But you can't use part of an upgrade with chips, and thats expensive material, comparatively speaking.
its worse now
they added tasks but nerfed others tasks and removed some
training troops is 20 now
Train troops was 60 total
Why are you persisting with this, it's too late in the day and betting is off at reset. They will send compensation of 100 bio and tell people to deal with losses made on bets.
I know we could do it but before was way easier
At this point you mods should be telling players to cut the loss and avoid bets altogether. Stop playing into the scam.
Mods said that every feedback is listened 
And that devs take a lot of time to consider it 
they will answer us next year
Compare this to doomsday betting. As a percentage of overall rewards obtainable and tokens issued.
To see what a trash scam apex turns out to be.
Maybe next year they will know bout Sarge frags if it's useful 
well we don't get much tokens in Apex so don't wanna lose it 🤣
they plan to make him limitless
If this is what you are referring too it has been addressed already in the latest dev feedback, you may check it out here #🎬︱developer_feedback message
I don't see operation festival in there
I'm guessing, since Operation Festival is sort of a mini festival at this point, the devs shortened it to fit better with their scheduling, however CR is correct to state that it was better in its 7-day form as a supplement for players for things like Pearls and other rewards.
Personally, I just think we have too many festivals in general. They stop being anything of importance or even remotely special when we have festivals of varying lengths every week.
It gets to the point where I'm saying to myself, "oh gee, here's another festival. I guess Sarge finally smiled."
I almost entirely ignore them these days unless their prizes line up with the "important" event. Throwdown, sotf, svs, and a few of the mini ones that are good for f2p development. I just see op festival and the like eating my backpack to earn items that aren't amazingly useful
Skins are nice, but now that the store is so expensive, i can leave them very easily. Collection points are insurmountable these days. The pearl store doesn't help
No, im asking about the feedback that devs said they will improve. That feedback about operation festival where people asked to make it 7 days event instead of the actual 5 days event
I want to find that feedback of players asking to add 2 more days so we can happily buy more bundles to rank higher
I do the same thing. Unless something lines up, I don't bother with a silly festival. When it's something bigger like a multi-week, then I will, because I know that a little more effort can get me some few things, but I still don't invest in them other than time.
Nothing within them tickles my desire to spend money.
I was confused by your statement, Crim, I apologize for misunderstanding.
So you prefer the shorter Op Fest?
So I did a quick search and can't find any feedback wherein the length of Op Fest was in question. I did find a few recent blurbs about the sentinel frags, aligning the surprise tasks so they started and ended at a consistent day/time (and not 28 hour intervals), questions about the amount of pearls given in the extra crates for the task bar...
Also just realized I was talking to the entirely wrong person. More coffee is needed. This is why I can't be on discord before 7am
Exactly, I find those "feedbacks" kind of suspicious
Who wants a very expensive event to be more longer so we are forced to spend more money to get good rank?
I just found the item you mentioned. And yeah, I'm not seeing where it was suggested either.
Hello Crim!
Feedback is collected here and also through the game 🤗
Yeah, through the game where you cant really see if its real
They move us like puppets
I can say that it's better with a 7 day cycle for mid to small players. Worse for those trying to rank.
Naaa, as soon as you use the stuff the first day, you cant use more as free to play players
Given the game is filled with OK bots, inagine that any feedback the devs get in game is the result of hallucinogenics and not players
Then you're hoarding and spending on svs/sotf. Both are useless for small/mid players unless aiming for 20 or higher rank.
I haven't had any problems using things during Operation Festival, but I budget my use, so that could be why
I understand your concerns about it. If you want, we can also submit feedback on the same event, to change the number of days again
Where was the original feedback though 👀
Im not complaining about the days, I just want to know where are those feedbacks they are talking about
It's one of the best places for smaller folks to progress comparatively. Trying to get 5 frags for sotf... Hard pass.
Or does it take too much time and resources to check old feedback
Because those feedbacks are bs and dont change anything in game but making us waste more money. But those feedbacks that really are useful and have plenty of votes are never listened
I can try to check if our feedback team if we are able to see more informations about it ok?
If the supposition is that it was collected through the Broadcast Office, it's only got a small section of the community which actually thinks it's a worthy idea, and what the developers did here was slip it into our Feedback Responses as though it was highly voted.
It likely wasn't, and only exists because it supports their ideas of scheduling adjustment. It's there to make the community think it's more highly desired.
But sure, let the new mod try
I'm not sure about this feedback post -> #📋︱feedback-reporting message
I discovered the %% method yesterday and used it successfully by choosing option 10 and then 7, getting response from an actual human. Was it different before?
They do take feedback from their little broadcast camps and such, but because things are anonymous there, and because others can't "upvote" or "down vote" there is no method of actually saying we do/don't want something.
Instead they work it into our dev responses like it was something more than a handful of people asked for.
A form specifically directed to the relevant issue would pop up. That would then be taken up by a bot or human depending on content.
You also can submit feedbacks using the help and support menu ☺️
Lol
Imagine telling me what I already know
That function is legitimately worthless btw
I see, so they basically made it more hidden now 
I am sorry, maybe I misunderstood you 
I'm just waiting for someone to jokingly tell you to send me a mod application.

mod_application
Archivist is a better look for you, tbh.
Liannin
It seems less stressful
SA is a heaven, I should have joined it years ago 
I will prefer DMs about this topic. Because of the new rules. 

Lurk mode and roll in the bank 
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Right 
Gonna be the same spending scam as the cards or tempest.
People with tons of alts be like: 
What is Fortune shower? 🤔
Fortune shower is an Alliance hall event, this one ↓
Ohhh ok ok i thought time could be chosen at any time in those events 🙈
Yes the name is not that known😅 I was wondering at first too but made some searches about it
Yeah exactly. Just another way for the gap big spender - F2P to become bigger
Eh not really, big spenders already got everything maxed
Whales got it maxed, big spenders not all
It also Applies to Rain of Riches
@pallid willow
Fortune Shower is Rain of Riches (Alliance ver.)
For Future Tycoon it called Rain of Riches instead of Fortune Shower
Yes it is similar to rain of riches.....
So why are devs promising chats with players snd not giving them ,lianna deserves her chat
Cause, they, don't, care
Aww they care...
Don't they?

Sometimes, they like my ideas. It would be really nice to give them some more. I bet we could even talk about spending and I promise I would try to control my face.
try. This thing does what it wants most times.
No, but really, time is ticking down. I have all the receipts to show I've done my part, as well all the people both within the company sphere and the moderator team who have tried to assist me.
This is solely on whomever is working this portion of the dev team. It's unconscionable to make someone wait for a simple conversation which would, maybe, take an hour out of the day.
This was something which was offered to players for the low cost of their engagement within a feedback conversation, as a prize, and I was selected. I am still waiting for my prize. It has been about two weeks shy of one year so far.
In any normal circumstance, this would be considered a breach of contract, as I adhered to the requirements within the System Mail as a prize winner.
So.
Where. Is. My. Dev. Chat.
As I see lurkers, I want it to be made very clear that while I do joke around a lot and probably unsettle some folks, there are some things I will take seriously.
The player community is one of them.
Keeping agreements is another
Both of which are not priority to them 😂
Please switch off the data devourer button
So the changing of the boxes is done now ?
they are just laughing in our face now
nothing new
same with removing customer service so you have no one to talk to
I bet it's better then the person who is anwsering, most of the time they are useless anyway
AI is bad
and cs was at least a little help and you "knew" someone read what you wrote even if they often gave you an answer that wasn't even topic
and we were able to get the Sticker Crates converted by writing CS that's not possible anymore we just get those dumb 50 Skin Tickets for a store that repeats itself over and over again
A human can be persuaded. Good luck with an AI that parrots the company line.
Friendly reminder for the always available quick healing button
-> #📋︱feedback-reporting message
And the question comes to mind, when are players getting the benefit of these mobile gaming companies removing costs.
30% commission from Google, Apple etc, removal/downsizing of art/translation/cs teams ..
All these convert to higher gross margins. How are these companies arguing against levying the 30% platform fee, but also pass on the same to players regardless even when they themselves do not pay the fee?
In the apple against epic lawsuit, these developers have pointed out that the 30% fee is not charged by Apple 7 days post a client purchasing on their own webstores
So when are players getting the 30% discounted prices?
Let's disregard the pricing component reduction of ai incorporation instead of staff wages.
Why was trap taken off the MIGO board for the rest of this week? Some of us who joined group alliances for svs on Saturday, were not able to rejoin our own alliances to play trap yesterday. In the past, I have always been able to make up migo points on the next trap within the week. Now it is closed? If I had known you only get one shot, I would’ve used coins. Not fair for those of us who couldn’t do it because of svs. This migo is impossible to complete as it is.
Everything is impossible to complete now.
Oh we are gonna make daily tasks easier to complete. Haha should have known that was a joke. I used to be able to complete daily tasks really quick now it takes so much longer to complete. These devs need to try playing their game and have a job and RL obligations and keep up with the 50 plus events we have a week.
We will keep doing collaborations, but you can’t complete without spending thousands. Migo we know it was fun to begin with, but we can’t have everyone complete the event. Unless you spend money every event is now like the lottery to you. Good luck keeping up with the game. These are all things the Devs are saying to every single one of us.
Hi Physco, if you haven't picked the sticker/skin ticket yet, contact CS and explain you have (I assume) all 4 Nanami stickers
They will replace unopened crates for another ones (could be Maddie or Rusty and etc)
Daily tasks seem fine so far, I like the claim all button a lot
We need to add pity timers to all RNG elements of the game to offset their poop fake percentages
No more rng please, pets will be next rng hell
CS will tell you —— in so many emails , they told me that
They say they are not obligated to, take it or leave it
So I decided to stop paying
CS is very supportive and help us limit our useless spending
Two more responses with same IQ level and I will definitely quit
how? they removed hidden menu so is it a bug or a game suggestion?
Correct, I have forgotten it's a new menu, I would go for both actually just to try to get an answer until a better way comes up
So, we just got pets in ptr 2days ago, but its already coming to the live server? Damn 😂
pets can die in a fire
This game will die in fire
wish whoever thought pets was a good idea would
I want cats added not tiger 
Yeah and 5days of "testing" will prove that it fits the game
Absolutely
It fits their pocket because its broken 😂😂
Pets now 💀
so not a great increase and probably costs a fortune
Inflation
I have enough actual pets. Like my Tamagotchi, these virtual pets will be neglected.
How long is it going to be until we can use the Stealth Coating and Advanced Aluminum Alloy for the Stealth Module 🤔
you have a maxed Spectre
Mine has been maxed. I have so many crates waiting to be opened to use on the stealth module
must have spent a fortune on it , well you will soon have pet sto spend on so all will be good
What a sick joke tbh, one account gets nearly every item, but other 2 get bios only?
Hi Frogg! The items you get from idle rewards are random.
It's possible for one to have better luck than the other
Random? More like 1% chance of any items... I love full days of only bios.
If you believe it is unfair, you can submit a feedback in #📋︱feedback-reporting
I can help you with that if you'd like
After spending 18-21h waiting on enough to buy 1 bomb to clear a bonus level because finishing 10 into a bonus level means you get 1-10 rewards even though you past 10
If I knew it would do something maybe, but I've seen top 10 feedback be the same for months on end
So not wasting my time just on the verge of deleting my account
I'm so sorry to hear that you're unhappy with the game. Is there anything I can do to cheer you up?
the only thing that would make happy players is that devs listen to them, the last dev info proves us again that they dont or they dont care....
The ultimate joke was about Sarge frags in "discussion" to be changed 
First joke
Second joke
at least devs have a big sense of humour 
instead on adding junk like pets they should have spent time fixing the issues we have provided feedback on
Do the pets ride in our vehicles
Can they add an animation where they are on top of them
Hope with that Doberman will dig better than the actual dog do my dig.🗿
Tired of the chihuahua dig me no hero frag or positioning chip
Why did they randomly add a new level to Kauu Assault?
We think it starts tomorrow and it's countdown to actual play date
Even though the actual shown dates suggest otherwise
Who knows, many in the morning I'll wake up as champion of apex and get my fancy doggy march skin
All 3 of your matches will be at 22:00 UTC
Thank you, but it was more when we're actually playing as it's not clear 😅
This dev feedback feels like they are just making jokes on players expense now 😄
:b_number_1: Issue 1: There are too many events to complete daily. Please streamline them.
🗣️ Developer's Response: We have received your feedback and will continue to improve it.
:dot: Recently, we have improved the daily tasks so that players can complete them with less time and easier operation. Some old online events such as Fortress Fight may be removed in the future.
:dot: Our dev team will keep streamlining the online events. Many burden-reducing arrangements will be implemented in the upcoming version. Stay tuned!
I agree that it's a bit confusing as the timer makes it seem like the match starts at reset
I hope so, otherwise it's going to be busy in these channels again 😂
Rest of their dev feedback is in the same feel, we complain too much events, they said they are streamlining it, might remove fortress fight LUL
What about fookin 69 other events?
festivals every other week?
Take too much resources and power mate
Collabs back to back?
Even recycling events take too much resources and power given they can't seem to update to suit the event or theme 
or their answer about desert survival queue times 😂
We all know why people side have long queue- there is only one free try and no sane person will waste money on buying more tickets for it 😄
Solution is so simple, allow to play as monster for free
You'd be surprised on that
but they will never even consider it
22 utc
People are really buying that? Oo It is so bad reward to $$ ratio....
Maybe those are devs shill accounts?
He is the problem and FP limiting trys...
yes there many of them in states +1000
Hopefully tomorrow 😅
to make new players spend
most in new states doesn't spend
Or this issue:
Issue 3: Fortune Shower starting at 14:00 and 18:00 clashes with other events. It's impossible to get all the rewards.
🗣️ Developer's Response: We have received your feedback and will make appropriate improvements.
:dot: We may change the start time of the Fortune Shower. Once plans are out, we will notify our players in the Community center.
How about just, I dont know, removing timer altogether since you can participate only one time per day? Like wtf is even going in their heads, it makes no sense that there are timeslots for that sort of event.
I can somewhat understand timeslots in attack behemoth boss event- it makes it easier to gather people for rallies if someone wants to do that but in fortune shower where every person just clicks on falling envelopes by himself? 😄
New states are hell, now they are even first ones getting new features, aka pets for example 😄
When they should be getting it like year later
Probably won't even do my dailies any more
That free 10 daily plasma must have been hurting them a lot 
that's why new states die too fast
Takes no genius to know how rushing total of like 200k $ worth of features within few months will end up 😄 Yet FP fail to realise it
Impossible in this type of game
Why would anyone join old state?
just to be 1 year of progress behind everyone else?
no that bad tho
you could upgrade faster.. like plasma it's easier
Hey dear chiefs!
There is this nice feedback posted on the matter, please upvote it!
#📋︱feedback-reporting message
You are still year behind in building time, research time, troop training time etc.
If you feel said feedback is incorrect, please fill a new one and make sure to upvote, weekly top are moved on to the devs
we all behind
you maxed behemoth?
Not even close but they finally got golden :p Thing is I as a nearly free player got them there, if new players joins in it will take him 2 yrs just to get to that point. By then I would have both behemoths level 190 and nearly maxed. Someone who joins in old state would always be weakest of the bunch unless he just drops down massive amounts of money.
There is 0 avenues to catch up in this game
check how much frags maxed behemoth need 👀
more than from 0 to max purple
It's better for new players join old states than start in new state
also after skip hero gen we are same with state 1
we were new state also but now from 1 to +800 it's same
Not really, you will be always weakest in old state unless you drop lot of money and that lot of moeny will just make you on the same level as f2p who played there since the begining.
you could test that if want
🤣
make an account in old and in new state and see which acc will get to HQ 30 faster
also not many join new state when it's open so it's mostly dead since beginning
Because you will be jumping into needing p14, t11 and t12 troop researched, basic crystal research, nearly golden 2 behemoths, needing decent tempest arms, of course finished hero gear, badges, chief gear, lot of normal researches which needs like 2years of speedups, other research that also needs ton of speedups
Even building speedups are needed in amounts of like 2yrs
you would need to buy everything
Most F2P players have behemoths at purple. It is definitely difficult to upgrade them without spending money😅
and with all that if maxed player attacked us will burn us in 1 hit
just to be on the same level as f2p in that state
My small 2 cents on the matter, focus on skill upgrading more than frags
Depends on how active you are in events, mine are golden and I am within like 50$ total in this game. Just playing in fairly old state
Do try to get monkey to yellow lvl 1 for the purple skill
But even a well equipped purple monkey can wreck yellow ones
It is important to put the best heroes on the barricade and always have at least one aircraft in the settlement. In that case, F2P players can survive a few hits even from maxed players
Sadly no... You survive exactly 0 hits
Unless player that attacked was not truly maxed
try that on duel 🤣
Oh but is you the ghoul sleep in my hive next to me 
I tried that one SvS. I definitely can't say I survived unscratched. It was almost 1 million troops lost
Next time unbubble 🥹
Maxed player march can decimate ten marches of other "maxed" 200/200 monkey players in PoW, against f2p it means that one hit burns you even if you have 10mln inside :p

last nexus i saw guys with 10millions troops in hive destroyed by maxed p15 in one shot
even with the best heroes in barricade now its impossible to survive against p15
p13 yes but p15 have changed everything
Hq should provide a 3000% bonus to health and defence
Great job making dailies take double or more time that it used to while keeping the 💩 rewards the same
I’m a p13 that has zeroed p15s in RR. Plasma levels are not even close to a major factor for power.
They should have changes this game
When got attacked by Collection lvl 90
Add collection lvl 60 or below 5000% Attack/Defense/Lethality/Health would be nice
Evening everyone
if you have nice ideas we can always create a feedback and post it here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606 usually devs take a look at the ones with more reactions 
Yes, reward not pushing what is the most important strength builder there is 😂
There would be zero point in pushing collections and they would run spenders out of the game.
Let’s try to use a little common sense
Just saw the new daily task list. We now have a “spend” task good for 100 points. Kind of in your face don’t ya think?
Ok so I’m late to the party if someone else has posted, but our alliance has never ever signed up for alliance duels. We have never built the building nor has anyone had any desire to play this event. 99% of us will either be working or sleeping. How do you un-sign up? This is the 1st time we have gotten a notification like this since event was created
Am I the only really unlucky one who keeps on getting almost only biocaps as random rewards in jungle gems this time, way worse than last time event was around and by now I was reaching lvl 20? This time I am on 14 :p Is it just my bad luck or really good luck last time or did they already mess with the event?
@static barn I don't think you can unsign up once its in motion but i am still unsure how you even got signed up.
@tidal apex I have never gotten bios from it
We agreed to never build the buildings and we have not the entire time. Still haven’t
maybe its a bug
I mean small random rewards when claimimg points every 3h, you can get bios, bombs pickaxes etc
The whole game is a bug 🤷♀️
I would be more than happy to upload some feedback for you
@tidal apex oh i see yes i do get bios from that tho no pick axes recently this time around
I am not sure if they have changed anything i sure hope not i will hope its just bad luck for me too
Not sure feedback is going to change the fact none of us signed up. We never have and never will.
I am just wondering if other people are experiencing this without having signed up.
That’s why I posted here. Hoping it’s a glitch and they fix it. Now we have to waste bios or our 24 hour shields all day Thursday 🤬
you are the first i have seen so far but perhaps you can reach out to customer support and let them know the situation
I can pass this info on your situation to my fellow mods to see if they have had anyone who has experienced this. Can i tag you if i find out more?
Makes me want to not spend even harder on this crap game
That is literally impossible
I’m already there - haven’t spent a dime in ages 🤣
Even without buildings, they can still declare on you. Event starts and no one gets to port, they get auto win, then event ends.
We’ve never done the event since it started. Never built the buildings. We ignore it. Now suddenly we are registered.
So after researching Potential opponents are automatically generated based on an Alliance’s ranking in the State Event Alliance Rankings. At this point the other alliance can choose your clan with or without the building but if you don't build then you will forfiet and they will win.
We’re fine with it since 99% of us will be working
It's not a bug
You still show up in rankings and as an alliance to be bid upon
Even if you don't build the buildings
Go ahead and ask me how I know
Also, don't be surprised if you get messages from other alliances which say "build your buildings, just let us hit you for points". We did.
But yeah, it's just an automatic loss on your end
They nerfed it again..talked to many in my alliance and all the same , bios or a few coins and no picks or other items or very few..please egg missing from the level 20 box
Anyone else try joining their apex match and it just crashed over and over and caused you to miss?
No, but you might as well not play Apex, the whales are just going to steam roll everyone so there is no point in playing.
Another terrible event designed to reward whales.
Seriously what was the point of groupings. Let's stick maxxers with mid spenders
Feel even worse for f2p
No point in playing
Well, that was probably the dumbest SR event I've played.
3 of the 4 enemies I fought had a splinter or angelica or selina.
Not going out of my way to play the other 2 SR tournament events. Guess I won't be advancing 🤷
hey JFlo, any error message? or did it just crashed?
while i largely agree with the overall sentiments regarding the event... i just try my best and made 11th in my group. im only vip 11 for contexts.
maybe dev should group everyone by VIP levels!

Well mine didn’t even let me enter
And it had 100 players already
Just watched the timer count down to enter and it said I was late
And I read back, no numbers were missing
You supposed to be on early before the countdown ended for preview
It says so in the rules
When I went in nothing was there
Ahhh maybe a special feature
Considering 100 were already on the battlefield I guess so
My understanding if the building isn’t built it’s an automatic win for the opponent. They won’t come to fight you.
Jesus what have they done in the last update. It takes me seconds to claim a completed intel, it used to be instant. Everything needs to "think" now. The task is done, the prizes don't need to be shipped from the server...
Damnn everything waits. I convert plasma to poly and it waits seconds. Doing plunder explorer, it waits. Everything freeze and waits 💀💀💀
Don't give up! If an HQ 18 can do it, you can to! 😊
Nothing atm! No animations outside their building! Just in battle report
I don’t want to pay for that 🥹
After level 30 will be bonus
I also want my pets to poop outside of my enemies HQs after they burn
The bonus will show up randomly every 10 levels. A f2p can reach level 30 with good luck.
99.99$ just to clean it afterwards! Tax included!
Yes, make them pay 🤓
Level 43 was my best with no money, constant 3 hour log ins 🤪 but this time around definitely gave more biocaps than the other two times this event came, no chance this round 35 probably
The gold pet will be available probably at Anniversary event in less than 2 weeks
I’m hoping for good power ups lol
43 with no money is super impressive
Hot damn 😳 the board gets that big? 😅
Unfortunately 🥹
Oh 💩, and it has 2 little square ones! That's stressful to see
Just one solution: Ignore this fog event
I talked about maxed players. The mod said that f2p could resist at one hit from maxed players. When p13 maxed was there it was possible to resist to one hit from a MAXED player. With p15 a maxed player can destroy everything.
This weekend at svs our maxed player destroyed some big boys very strong so easily.
I know that plasma lvl is just a number. As a p9 (old strong p8) I saw that I have a lot of time same stats than higher lvl, but saying that a f2p can resist to one hit from a maxed player, no, now it's not possible anymore. And even more since p15 is out.
This is also incorrect. A “maxed” player will 1 shot any f2p no matter what the cap is for plasma building levels 😂 You do not understand what all goes into a player being maxed
me thinking it was F2P friendly, but if I see that picture, then no
But nice try regardless
It hasn’t been possible for a long time
It's not a glitch, game will always act as if you signed up, it doesn't matter if you build the buildings or not, it will only show on the matching screen if you build the buildings, then people can still decide to fight you, which means just a auto win for the one matching with you
You don't have to worry, the moment it starts it also ends right away with a auto-win for the opponent
gotta love that everything is server sided, and especially since that is garbage, don't see any worthy improvements
I hate chef event the most now, they fricking nerfed Perfect dishes
I feel you
but it’s ok not all the tasks require perfect 😏
No, but it's the only one I need now for chief chef and it is so rare, yet points made by doing stuff is too low
So what i do ,is the first day i start at 10 food and 10 seasoning and i rise the food ten by 10 , that gives me a variation of dishes
after that every attempts left just 1-1 …and after that again I follow the recipes to get “perfect “
Recipes
*• 100/100 - Steak
• 50/50 - Smoked Ham
• 13/100 - Cocktail
• 9/100 - Fruit Platter
• 80/80 - Sandwich
• 60/100 - Seafood Platter
• 40/100 - Roast Turkey
• 69/69 - Noodles
• 85/99 - Cake
• 29/79 - Salmon
I hope it will help you

Easiest to get perfect is steak (100/100), and you can get perfect doing 100/1 instead of the full 100/100.
Might save you some ingredients.
Idk if you're supposed to get perfect, but I've been getting it only doing it that way
I’ll try that too 
Good to know, gonna try that tomorrow, Thanks
So say that to the mod who said that it was possible to resist to a one shot from a maxed player. You know it was that I answered at start so we were agree 🤣
I'm struggling getting perfect from 100/100, same goes 100/1 or any other variation really 😅
I've resisted hits from strong players, but only in rr with the defence boost.
At any other time no, you're cannon fodder.
Perfect chance seems to be way down. I used to get 1:3 now its more like 1:8
that's not a good sign.
oh it is wayyy down, probably devs with brain loss thinking about ''enhancing'' the experience
They're just pinballs, and the liklihood of f2p getting ANYTHING good on the pachinko is miniscule, they don't need to make it difficult as well
Devs: hey, eat this apple. If you finish it we MIGHT give you 5 cents. Btw we're going to hit you with a lead pipe while you're eating.
FP joke for today
Actually is truly a good event for f2p as pinballs can be stored, so you can just collect them and wait will you have enough to get something you want 
don't worry everyone now you could get Jane frags
Jane frags is all what you need to get
The whole game is just depressing really, they nerf everything. Like that gems thing, bios help amazingly well, said noone ever 😒
All I've had the whole gems event is bios
Seems like I get Successes more, but I'm not mad about it. Don't need a lot more perfect anyway, so now just cycling through stuff
Oh yeah, turn your sound off, I'm one of those people
I’m so unbelievably upset that I can no longer add to my thousands of Jane and Maddie frags that have been useless for 3 years. Whatever shall we do
They could have just changed the prizes. Like we want from every other old event.
Heck pzs weren't even a grind, you could just not do them... their reasoning as always is suspect
So just spending money like tempest and cards ?
Why not just let us gift it to another play ffs 🤦
they won't, events just closes down.
Yeah, i know. I don't expect any different at this point
Expecting something nice for f2p and low spend is always wishful thinking
me neither, it's just dreams at this point, hope game closes down sooner then later
Tbh I'm just happy they listened about the trading of frames and such between players. I assume the portal for that isn't opened in game as I can't seem to see where that would take place.
And the freight thing, I assume the official story for that is because people complained about the joiner limitations? So they gave an option for a second train?
I mean, obviously, there's a bundle, because of course they monetized it.
Didn't really do PZ anyway, but it did have rewards for some smaller players. It just wasn't something some folks do after a certain age as often, so in terms of things they'd remove, also not too mad about it. Still better than the FF idea.
Four years here and my standards have met rock bottom. That's sad.
Maybe for my next feedback I can say something like "it only took me three minutes to download the half gig update today, so now my memory total is only a cool 12gb"
Oh oops
Does sakura cyan skin included in cherryblossom festival?
Which reminds me - the more heroes we have, the more models required, the bigger client gets.
So eventually SoS gonna be like some AAA games, 100gb?
Yes it's 14gb since last week i don't know why they keep stacking data that was huge
How to obtain and activate this "treasure map"? Its the bulldozer on ss
Apparently its an alliance thing
I think it's redundancies and preloads. We still have Arena of Doom or whatever they're calling it this time, tournament stages, the end of this festival, pets, etc.
But I do think some of it is just redundant code that isn't overwriting properly. Because they're not the best at these things, which is kinda what you get when you cycle your staff so frequently
Is it in the new update?
Ppl saw it before in last migo but no one knows what is it
I know it was in PTR, but never saw how people were opening them.
wanted to say, wow that's big, but on my phone it's 12,52 for pixels, wow
I'm glad I have a huge amount of free storage, but the game itself still has issues with stability and latency, among other things, despite that. That's what happens when you choose live service for almost everything.
we don't have that yet. Never saw that in 1064
i believe after new update will be 13 GB+ thats crazy just for this game lmao
stability is the biggest problem in this game, oh you have a big event coming up, better prepare your phone then because it's gonna be a terrible experience, oh and put in on a charger because it eats through your battery like butter
There are a few people who test in PTR on the server here, hopefully someone will have some insight about the Alliance digging for you, Emman.
SERIOUSLY.
I dread events where I play more than one account at a time because of how bad it is just playing one sometimes
Presumably that's something that removing certain events will help with, but the reality is that they intend to fill the empty spaces with more stuff. So for as much as they're freeing up the grindy events schedule, they're gonna backfill it.
The problems are never really solved, just delayed with solutions monetized.
and that list will only become bigger and bigger
They included my feedback for always available quick healing in the patch of today, after only three days. 
My bucket list is finally done, I can die in peace now.
Wow how did this happened? I just updated the game and the data was halved
Not just because of how the game is developed, or the schedule by which things are developed and released, but also the formation of new states, the lack of server maintenance (both physical server locations as well as "cleaning up" post-merge closed states), and more
It was 14gb last week
And not to rain on HaBe's parade, but that button has been requested for ages.
Go to #📋︱feedback-reporting and search "quick heal"
Yeah, its been a request for months
I know I know, but it still feels like a success.
That said, it can take months for things like that to be developed and implemented, so feeding back can keep some things relevant.
To say "yes we still want this"
Like my dev chat
I still want that
Lol
I think if a request is accepted by them there is a 3 month lead time for it. Thats been relatively consistent. So if its outside that 3 month window the feedback got ignored
It was already there, but only during CC and SVS. I like to think that it helped to make it always available. Don't mess with my bucket list now. Let me die in peace!😂
That's my thinking as well, Cyan. They've been pretty solid with the three month thing, give or take a couple things
you simply didn't bought enough stuff lol



