📋︱feedback-discussion

[stable cosmos]

And its got its migo task. Its not a big deal to complete, but if you have a schedule stick to it... don't add random stuff in when most of the week is over

Alternatively, the game is in its death throes and you're trying to wring as much money as you can out.

If thats the case please announce the shut down date

[fluid shuttle]

Yeah and it's the same as ever. I wish it wasn't P2W. I'd rather spend my money on other packs.

[unreal lichen]

It's not about the MIGO task, but it appeared out of nowhere. It suddenly showed up

usually, feeding frenzy is released 3-4 days after SVS.

[unreal lichen]

start to be f2p, can't keep up with sos anymore

lot of ridiculous bundle and repeating event

[karmic widget]

Yes CS assured me that events don’t just appear. Everything is there at reset 😌 ‘you just need to restart the game’

Make of it as you want, I told them they talk crap 😂

[storm solstice]

#🔅︱content_creator_videos message

[stable cosmos]

Heres a question to push up the chain.

What is going on at the moment. We are seeing big events released and then restarted a few days after they show up
We are seeing events release, recycle and restart way more frequently.
There are events showing up outside their scheduled time and off calendar
The company isn't functioning is it? These are not the actions of a group of people with any form of plan.

Alternatively, lie about that answer. We're getting used to those but the current... methods, read more like looney toons than anything under control

Whats next, a week running throwdown sotf and svs all at once?

[solid rivet]

They need new faces in their company

But you can pay monkeys with banana

[tardy night]

There's nothing that's dysfunctional. This is how they operate. It has to do with a very simple principle of gambling.

More frequent bursts of rewards will drive more gambling and make people login more. Not everyone, just the most susceptible ones.

Read the book gambling by design or their own ux researcher wrote about this too in the secret science of gaming.

[fallow lodge]

So my game bugs out when something new is hiding underneath what's there now gives me a indication of the crap the Devs will bring......so Devs we getting a new behemoth? As I read somewhere it's not hero

[stable cosmos]

How does that fit with releasing a collab then pulling it out after 2 days and re-releasing it? I can see it for the bundle events they're chucking at us, but not the random event adding or the sudden rereleases.

[tardy night]

That's them reskinning stuff between their 7 or 8 titles with the same overworked interns in all probability.

The dragon stuff was a reskin of a prior '22 event, and that itself was reskinned into another title that I personally saw

Most of what they do can be drilled down to either driving up revenue, forcing more logins to drive engagement or reducing ops costs.

Actual gaming....nope

[stable cosmos]

I just don't really see (although I'm definitely not the target market) how a release and then a pull within a couple of days, or random additions of events that weren't scheduled would help drive revenue.

Especially with their habit of taking things off people. Pulling an event should make people more wary of spending on it on re-release. What if they pull it again. What if they take back everything you bought, or replace it with rss.

I guess if you're an addict you don't notice but it must hurt their standing with more moderate players

[fallow lodge]

Yeah there crazy why would people spend to have the things taken from there bag at the end of every event....you buy something you expect it to stay in your bag to like I don't know Devs save up....it's a crime imo that if you spend on stuff and they take it away because they've come up with there own bs standard of rules for there self....taking out of some ones bag is plain out stealing Devs....

[rapid phoenix]

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[coarse verge]

Is this photoshop?!

[fallow lodge]

No

[fallow lodge]

I got the same thing 2 weeks before turtle event my games bugged and I'd say more like a crystal ball sneaky peak

[tardy night]

Depends on what percentage of the crowd is contributing to the whole at any given time. If it's close to 20% crowd doing 80% purchases ...their approach targets those impulsive whales easily.

If it's 80% doing 80% ...it's dumb.

[fallow lodge]

I read last week it's not new hero. So it's either a companion or let's all start again on a new behemoth....which would be complete bs as no one asked for a 3rd behemoth

[tiny pivot]

There are multiple hints at behemoth related Pacific rim just look at the items on the calendar in the event

[tardy night]

Just another behemoth skin I assume

[tiny pivot]

3 different ones at least

[tardy night]

Meh.jpeg.

[coarse verge]

Or new gear

Someone was crying for new gear last month

[tardy night]

Mundo? 🤣

[fallow lodge]

Maybe....so something for the 1%ers to get that makes them even more ahead of us.....my accounts pretty strong but I stopped all spend as this game as no meaning anymore

[digital nexus]

I liked the idea because I love Pacific Rim but that makes a great point that whales will make a bigger gap from other players

[misty pewter]

Wait till the collab with One Punch Man…. 1 hit from whales and it will kill off 100mil troops… better run now 😂

[fallow lodge]

I don't think devs care tbh....I've never seen a company like this. The bombardment of events with absolutely no break in between....everything about cash cash cash....there's seriously something wrong...this company is showing it's that greedy it would probably take candy of a baby if they could get profit out of it...the gameplay at the moment is just absolutely garbage . There product doesn't warrant the prices they put on things ..the company's a joke. I didn't used to like kings group but wish they'd come back.....I like Pacific rim too ,I will watch next film at cinema for sure

[misty pewter]

Yes theres really something very suspicious with how the company is behaving now and @merry scroll and @feral sinew has gone into hiding again 😂

[fallow lodge]

Them two are absolute jokes too...they won't even pass stuff on..think of it like this there like p.a's that deal with there bosses stuff. They don't actually take this stuff to the bosses....there a smoke screen....lackeys... Run round doing damage control spinning people with bs....

[stable cosmos]

Still matching on the current nexus that shouldn't be running. You'd expect it to be done by now so alliances have at least one day to plan and not a potential 3 hours

[calm meteor]

Well this indeed how it should be. There are 2 days of matching and ideally we should know who our opponents are before the fight day.

Saberlot recently mentioned that they are trying to postpone the event in next MIGO.
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In this case, I think AD will come back.

However no final info yet

[stable cosmos]

Fight day is tomorrow. Admittedly we fight nobody directly, but if you get the 0300 window thats not a lot of time to advise people

[calm meteor]

Yes, I agree with you. With 2 days matching, I think we should know today what time we are fighting.

[tiny pivot]

Why on earth does it take 4 days to start anyway.. and then the first 2 actual days are nearly useless as well...

They turned a 4 day thing into a 2 week thing for no real reason 🙃

[steel musk]

[stable cosmos]

Copy paste of another games event. Nobody likes it. Devs know best. I posted way further up how it could be a 2 day event with the second day basically being an 8 way capital clash that took 1 hour

[hollow needle]

especially if you are european and sleep and don't even know you should have set an alarm maybe

[steel musk]

[vale yoke]

[rain swallow]

I think we faced each other in the last RR👀

but thanks for the video😋

[storm solstice]

migh be 🙈
You are at ODE?

[rain swallow]

hahaha yes 😬 🙈

[storm solstice]

i have the last 5min as video prepared. Great battle. Close and intense.
Was really fun and thilling.

[rain swallow]

yes, it was really fun, I recognized you, I said we needed to win to become famous 😂

but we lost 🙊

[stone torrent]

They way they are throwing events out at random, not making sure they update when they copy and paste events, packs for everything, not bothering with testing...kinda feels like they are getting their last drops out of spenders before they move their efforts to a new game that is generating more money!

.....just sayin

[zealous plover]

Been mining coal since migo still not done yet 🤣 as a f2p or mid you can’t get 8k points

[stone torrent]

I have had the max level mines and the pack with the 2 extra mine slots since week 1 and I will not finish!

They have changed this so if you don't buy their coal and lime packs, you don't finish! Greedy is what they are!

[vernal moss]

Hi chief. The changes since the previous migo has drastically changed indeed. It’s unfair for f2p and pressure tactics that some people in industry thinks works but it only makes players leave and ruin any reputation it has after the years.
I’d encourage to submit a #📋︱feedback-reporting about how it’s strategised so it’s near to impossible without spending, but please do follow the #📋︱feedback-how-to format

[winter canyon]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[stone torrent]

Thank you but no thank you! I have upvoted when I see it but devs are doing their job well, there is so much wrong with the game and nothing gets fix, they don't even bother with their crap comps much anymore! They have gotten players to the point that they feel like what is the point and are just giving up and going f2p or quitting. Lucky for sos they have whales that keep on spending. I know I feel defeated have given up...other then the occasional rant here!

[vivid hawk]

managed to get coal, but a the expense of cement. and worst is that if you want to upgrade that HQ you still need lots of coal for that boiler room. Nowhere near possible to compelte this season without lots of spending. Which im guessing is what they calculated after last season where good F2p players were able to get max rewards.....

[winter canyon]

As far as seasonal badges/tundra is concerned, MIGO is nothing but a tragedy... we can only keep upvoting the feedback and pray🙏🏼

[wide wraith]

there is always the option that i took, just to collect crystals to spend in the store, rather than try for specs that are only reversed at the end on Migo

[winter canyon]

I'm only collecting from red mines

Anything else is not worth it at all

[meager python]

Sorry for the tag, did you get this working? Mine is working.

[stone torrent]

I hear you and I am making that switch but as my alliance rally lead, I needed to keep going! It is so unfair and fustrating

[wide wraith]

I am also a lead but its not doable without spending way more than i want to

[winter canyon]

Not even lvl 91 tundra is achievable F2P (basically you can't even hope you're lucky) so they can just give us 1 astro coin as compensation + 2 more Astro Coin as compensation for f--- up the seasonal badges

[stone torrent]

I agree, but I figured they would adjust it when they got all the complaints, I held out hope they would do the right thing, but that's clearly not the case!

[wide wraith]

I did the same until last week when i just stopped caring about the astro coin

[winter canyon]

But I'd rather enjoy my 4th of July instead of ranting here🥰
Take care all... stay strong🙏🏼

[stone torrent]

Ya, I am switching now too. I have 1 week left so I will get as much crystal as I can.

[stone torrent]

Happy 4th! 😊

[wide wraith]

the 4th means nothing here in the UK so i would rather have a nap, something us oldies have to do lol

[unique slate]

hey but from all thing in game, this section pretty lively rather their shop or event

[torn rain]

game, game, game. Please, DEVs, return to develop a game. Not more chat slots (3 + 1 + 1 + 1 +.......). The State chat and Alliance chat are important to know what are the plannings, the implementations, the suggestions. I can't use half of my game time to read 5 chats (or 6, or more). And who plays in a smartphone, can't have infinitive number of chats to read, it is difficult, a lot. Please, turn on the game again, with game things, and not with "socials".

[raw breach]

Our nexus is going to be so fun

And this is not the strongest team

[still tapir]

Yes they need to make up from last season which was way easier. Also the reason why they added it seasonal badges with rewards, so that they can get people to spend on it. Last season I was able to get 4 astro coins with the main and 3 with my alt. They can't have that again. I doubt I'll even get 2 with my main.

[solid rivet]

How do you know? In my group we dont know the alliances yet

[brazen peak]

Match making is done , you can try chat in nexus chat in game to see who other alliances , or else tomorrow you can see all the alliances list.

[unreal lichen]

Yes any you see in chat today are in your group.

I see 2 alliances below 70 billion bp in ours and 1 over 400 billion bp. 🫣🤔

[raw breach]

We got couple over 300, 400 and poor alliance of 70

[steel musk]

[slow thicket]

Matching works very well Devs said 🙄
Big alliances have no advantages nooooooo ofc ...

[rain reef]

Even becca said so

[robust bramble]

but from a business point of view, if F2P players are getting max rewards, how would the business survive if nobody spend?

[winter canyon]

I'm just back here to wish you a happy 4th😊
I want to celebrate the 4th of July and ignore the bad stuff in this game😅

I might be back ranting again after my vacation...
Take care

[solid rivet]

hehehehehehhehehhehehe

[slow thicket]

but its a temporary event its not something you keep until the end. At the end of migo its reseted. So no real advantage even for a f2p player.
And there is a difference btw spend a bit to max this (i remind its temporary so u spend for something that will disappear) and spending a lot to have a "little" chance to get it max. Thats a buisness pow too. If u force people to spend a lot u will never achieve it.

[robust bramble]

Yup I am with you on this. If everyone is spending a little to achieve the goals, then it still makes sense. When the spending is spread out, and more people are spending, it also helps grow the business

[cursive vessel]

Most people who spend to finish migo tasks / tundra etc do so to finish it quicker. F2p finishing things aren't a threat cause spenders will still spend

[vivid hawk]

agrre mate, same for me and was after the 1 astro coin this season to get a skin....and then they stuff us with changing the conversion ratios

[coarse verge]

You know what

Have fun

[robust bramble]

Yes I agree it suddenly was made exponentially tougher. Do you want to add a feedback for this? Every feedback counts because we have a wonderful team that will compile these feedbacks so players voice are heard.

[coarse verge]

Nah , it is never heard

We are well aware of that now

They better keep doing it so it die faster 😊

[robust bramble]

Yes we now have a team and we are trying our best to get feedbacks heard.

[rain swallow]

Imagine how cool it would be if they put all of 400B together on the same map? but they don't do that because they want to massage the ego of the spender Alliances

[slow thicket]

but u know as us that is barely heard or its heard only if its going on their sense. How many feedbacks i saw there without being considered. We know that u can do nothing on this. But its the truth...
Matching, spend, leg frags and so many fb without an answer.

Look just for the matching the last response from them "nothing to change everything is ok"...

[rain swallow]

I think that in this Nexus it was so exposed how much the devs don't know what they are doing in relation to matching, that it is difficult to believe that they know what they are doing in relation to the rest of the game, because after all it doesn't need to be a math genius to know that 400B is much bigger than 70B😂

[misty pewter]

The devs know what they are doing with Nexus… it’s an event where the spenders can flex their accounts and the rest don’t get burnt to a crisp… it’s designed that way. As for the mines, that was a low move to sell more bundles, to the point players gave up on migo and the game 😏

[cursive vessel]

Yep, nexus works exactly as it's supposed too

[stone torrent]

Does anyone know what you get?

Like really, now they just want us to spend without even knowing what you are getting

[jagged jewel]

Hi Julie, you can click on the sentinel card icon to see what you can get from it.

[stone torrent]

It doesn't show me

[jagged jewel]

In mine it shows Heart sentinels, ocean elemental, boulder and tree

[stone torrent]

If I click on it from the store it give me the above screen and if I click on it above, it does nothing

[stone torrent]

That's what I thought, thanks I already have those plus 8 crates for frags for those 4 and no way to recycle or exchange them! Lol

[jagged jewel]

No problem, it would be great if we could use/recycle frags that we dont need.. Want to drop a feedback regarding this?

[stone torrent]

I don't have the patience to add feedback anymore, but if it is added I am happy to upvote it

[jagged jewel]

I made one, you can go and upvote it

[fallow lodge]

nice auto update, press here in behemoth building ?. hopefully the companion skins is all it is....launch a 3rd behemoth i dare you, watch people quit in drones you stupid greedy people

[tame lintel]

🤣🤣 it's coming soon. That's a promise

[near nebula]

F Carla

Gmcarla

[fallow lodge]

im still trying to work out what kind of world this is...we started with zombies, then giant beasts, then mutated turtles popped up and now we have a rift thats just magically opened randomly. this worlds messed up or i want what god of this worlds had....he defo on the wacky backy just like the devs. what next teletubbies or barney the dinosaur

[spice saffron]

Dr Yamazaki and his "groundbreaking discoveries" definitely wandered off the zombie apocalypse theme that we started with.

[misty pewter]

Well they call it F+ universe… maybe the dev are getting so lazy they might combine all their games and call it collab 🫠

[spice saffron]

FPEU = FunPlus Extended Universe lol

[fallow lodge]

that dude needs putting down hes defo a few mushrooms short of having a mushroom farm

[spice saffron]

I couldn't agree more!

[misty pewter]

Get him some blue pills, he will be too busy 😂

[vale yoke]

Someone needs to take Yamazaki out back. IDC what they do when they get there - in fact the less I know the better - just take him out back.

The man is a menace to society and easily one of the most detested NPCs in the game.

[forest kiln]

Someone need to put dr. Yamazaki to psychiatric wards & forget he ever exist

[coarse verge]

We should rally him instead of fiends and Monkey

[vale yoke]

Most popular event would be the one where we finally get revenge on Yamazaki and he disappears from the game forever

Gigacorp doesn't even feel like the villain in the game

[coarse verge]

Absolutely, and it should be s trap like event where we get endless rallies

With individual mode , alliances mode , state mode and possibly interstate collaboration mode

[weak ingot]

When was the last time gigacorp was the villian?

Also P.S. I can beat yall's unfair matchup, I got THO and MFC in ours.

[unreal lichen]

We had MFC in last svs. Don’t get to close to them 😂😂

[slow thicket]

I understand now the mushrooms episode from migo now they took mushrooms 🤣🤣🤣

[slow thicket]

Happy from the working matching 🤣🤣🤣?

[weak ingot]

The first one was the most fair and it’s gotten progressively worse for us 😂

[slow thicket]

Players : remove pearls from soft
Devs : ok got it add a new day with pearls 🤔🤔🤔

And after that it's said that players are listened by devs 🤣🤣🤣

[steel musk]

[slow thicket]

Save ur pearls Friday is the pearl's day 😁😁

[opal pilot]

×2 for pearls ?

[thorny hornet]

After the update it works now. Not that I will pay to play it

[thorny hornet]

Chief chef odds are fake. The odds for perfect giving you hero gear are supposedly 20%, yet for the first 2 days, i have gotten them 6 times in a row. a likelihood of 0.0064%

those are about the same odds as being struck by lightning

[slow thicket]

dunno i know i saw it in the tasks for sotf after the update, i didnt have it before the update, they added it at the last min 👎

[thorny hornet]

i had pearls for the entire sotf event, i just wish i had known it would be part of the event, since i ended up spending all of my pearls they day before sotf started because i thought the festive bazaar was ending

[slow thicket]

same i spended all today before seeing it was at task for sotf 🙄

[vernal moss]

Pearls shouldn’t be part of either SoTF or SvS. Just another strategy to target spending exploiting the human emotion of wanting to win. Really is sad to see frankly.
I’d encourage to share your thoughts and put them up in #📋︱feedback-reporting regarding the pearls being in SoTF and what you think they should do instead if anything at all.

[slow thicket]

its mostly the fact that it wasnt in the planning this week i read it a lot of times to be sure. It was added to this todays update. Its just disgutting how they acting

[slow thicket]

done

[steel musk]

[viscid depot]

Omg. Our Nexus starts at 14UTC- this happens EVERY match and we did NOT choose it.. Where is the feedback that we need to upvote?

[shut plinth]

Way to go KG. Screwed us again

[steel musk]

FP : if you like it or not, you will get 14 utc

[fathom frost]

Ummm when did sotf decided to take pearls as spending points????

[shut plinth]

Think it’s just
Observation
Consequences
Suggested Solutions

[stable cosmos]

Oh look. 1400 again. That we didn't pick. This happened last time. @merry scroll are they not learning? If an alliance doesn't pick a time don't give it to them. Putting everyone in 1400 doesn't improve matching when alliances cannot play at that time anyway. You may want the matching unfair but the devs really need to respect the time preferences.

[stable cosmos]

Pearls have been on the points board since monday. Its lame but they're not a bonus points item so unless you're ranking you can choose not to spend them. I certainly wouldn't

[viscid depot]

I shouldn't complain. This match is another terrible one. We are only a 30b alliance against 200bp alliances. Last time it was a complete shut out and we had minimal points. One the last day, the big alliances were concerned about our low points. They tried hard to get us out of our safe zone to attack us- to 'give us points' 🙄

[weak ingot]

Man these skins are sooo expensive

[shut plinth]

There is no reason matching should be as lopsided as it is. They could make it more equitable if they wanted, but they enjoy the view with their heads stuck up their backsides so nothing will change since it’s an event they don’t profit from.

[karmic eagle]

Our alliance didn’t even get to choose a time slot the option wasn’t there and now we are not registered

[shut plinth]

KG at its finest

[karmic eagle]

This is what it’s said since the 1st

[tidal oxide]

So Nexus matching is useless again!
Cannot mine in their either?
So no points again!
No more spending from me.
Now for the hunt of another game to take my 80 players too

[tidal oxide]

That happened to us last time. As R5 I was on the Train as conductor and it stopped us joining Nexus!

[karmic eagle]

Really?

[tidal oxide]

Yep

[shut plinth]

You can’t mine until you control the level 2 city. They open after that. Last time mining gave no points for my alliance even after obtaining control, so it is worthless.

[stable cosmos]

Worthless describes pretty much the whole nexus event

[tidal oxide]

We have run out of available mines in our state so we are starving to mine for Migo points

[shut plinth]

They were supposed to have fixed that too. Guess that’s another thing they chose to ignore.

[tidal oxide]

The whole game is in the to hard basket

[stable cosmos]

Nah. Its about the makes money basket. If it doesn't directly make cash they chuck it out

[tidal oxide]

Yeh correct, but why spend if you cannot use your strength? So stop spending.
Time for another game

Have a great day, sun is shining in Australia, time to log off

[stable cosmos]

They don't understand that bit. They dont provide gameplay. You're just meant to spend money

[crystal holly]

Seriously. I saw somewhere here that Q&A with devs are held.

I believe people here will join my request to ask the developers a question about Nexus Struggle fake illusion of variety.

They offer us options - 5 time frames, from which we should choose 3. Which is already not really convenient, because on the west coast of America and in Asian countries closer to pacific ocean (plus Australia/New Zealand) only like 2 options are somewhere around acceptable. And it's still required that people dedicate time in the middle of the working day.

As European, I can agree to 4/5 time options, but still, that requires me to plan my week ahead. And all these events, where you cannot just pick a fixed time have been a pain in the peach for a very long time.

Now we get Nexus, where we are FORCED to pick THREE time options, but regardless of our choices, we still land on 14UTC battles.

And we always get unbalanced enemies (special applause for matching us against VAL and DYZ).

My point is why offering options if you still force people to play when they cannot/don't want to?

Just be transparent and do it 14 UTC for everyone.

Or let the 12 alliances that end up on same map pick time.

Or just cancel this dumb event, because honestly, people cannot keep taking 1-hour-long toilet breaks at work, wake up at 3 am, play while driving, and just plan their lives around the stupid bunch of pixels, which has been nothing but a money drain for like forever.

And no, I'm not submitting a 10th feedback here or in game, because it is POINTLESS.
And no, quitting is not an option for me. But stopping spending any money is.

And by the way, I hope that devs' tiny nanobrains finally will come to realization that holding such a massive event in all states at the same time overheats not only our phones, but their crappy servers too

[misty pewter]

I don’t think they even re-match us… we have the same alliance 😂

[crystal holly]

Did you check before or after the reset?

Because until after the reset we've had chat with opponents from the previous battle

[misty pewter]

Let’s get this right…. Nexus is never about fair play. It’s a playground for the spenders to flex their accounts. The selection of timing is just an illusion of choice.

[misty pewter]

I checked the ranking and there were already some players from previous match that are there now

[crystal holly]

Well yea. But again, we get this dumb "choose 3 out of 5 times" in Bunkers, RR, KoH. There it works.

We chose 12, 18 and 22 for Nexus. And guess what time we play?

[misty pewter]

14! 😂

[crystal holly]

And I'm sure there were plenty alliances which didn't pick 14 as well.

My leadership is going bald, because they are pulling own hair in anger and disbelief

[misty pewter]

Conspiracy theory… look for the strongest alliance there and ask them about the times they chose or when their alliance is most active

Everyone that’s not a big spender is mad as he’ll 😂

[crystal holly]

We've played against two strongest.

The drum monkeys inside devs' heads didn't earn their bananas for screwing with this event

[stable cosmos]

They did this last time. I'm sure their hope is that people won't complain so they can just match us at 1400 forever. Otherwise doing this again proves they're morons

And if you want to match everyone at 1400 then stop making people choose times and watch alliances not sign up instead...

[crystal holly]

Exactly my point

We're top 3 in our state.we don't have to go through the registration process to play at all (according to event instructions)

But I can bet $5 that even if ALL alliances pick any time options but 14, we'll all still play at 14.

[tardy night]

They choose the matchups before they choose the timings.

Thus the entire issue.

Ideally they should choose timings first, but that's not helping their server traffic management across games.

[coarse verge]

I don’t think they look at the times at all , they just match and whatever time is available for the big team it is

[misty pewter]

It’s the new game motto… anything for a dollar 😂

[fallow lodge]

I see everyone's not happy again...remember the Devs don't care. They will never care. why waste your breath hoping for something they will never do...go enjoy your day and forget about them waste of space shouldn't even be running a game useless greedy people

[raw breach]

Out of curiosity is there nothing weird in this Nexus matching?

And we r the middle with 200 bil

[stable cosmos]

Nope, its just as planned.still the same as day 1. 2 contenders, 2 kinda ok, 8 fodder, or whatever the split is. On purpose. Planned

[raw breach]

Lol we got literally 4 alliance there called farms. The we have 2 alliance so far about 300bil. And some smaller guys

[stable cosmos]

Yep, thats the whole idea for the event. Its very on purpose. Its the same when they match rr, or koth. The smaller alliances are meant to spend to catch up. The big ones get to flex their spending.

100% intentional, won't be fixed until the big flexing alliances ask to be matched with other strong ones cos beating littles is boring

[raw breach]

But a farm alliance of 20bil will never spend

And for us we were like meh we do not even come

Devs are unbelievable

[stiff ether]

Did anyone find any gameplay in Pacific Rim event yet?

[stable cosmos]

This is not within the devs ability to recognise. Definition of insanity

[chrome helm]

We literally turn up for events just for migo points … matching is always bad

[gritty holly]

How do they keep messing up nexus times. What’s this 4 times now?

[tardy night]

The run around to train crap and the trap

Reskins, only thing they worked on is the art and the packs for collab

[misty pewter]

There’s was never a mess up if it was planned 😂

[worldly sable]

The new event is dumb and a rip off

100 pieces for baby behemoth skin is too much for how much we get for rolling lmao

[vague shard]

So another f-d up matching in nexus, neighbor 3x our size

[pine pendant]

They prove us again that they don't care about our feedback. We got UNO as neighbors at a time we didn't even pick

[stable cosmos]

I can expect the matching. Not once have they ever told the truth about that. I wish shouting made a difference for it but it hasn't done so in over 4 years.

I prefer shouting about the time bit. Cos thats just wrong.

[vague shard]

Times have been correct for us. We got 14/18/22/18 which i# the 3 we chosen

[stable cosmos]

Oh theres a feedback about time already. Won't do my sarcastic one.

Observation
Devs cannot tell the time

Consequence
We all get 1400

Suggested solution
Devs go to preschool and learn how to read a clock

[vague shard]

2 first nexus was ok, but last 2 is crazy with matched 50-250b alliances on same map

[stable cosmos]

You chose 1400. Everyone gets 1400.

[warped ruin]

I forgot when the nexus start times were changed manually last time. I don't want to miss it again. Currently 14 utc. 😄

[pine pendant]

Same for us, someone probably suggested them to split whale alliances on all groups to make sure that those who get most of glory points will be the ones who don't need them lol

The only fun part is testing my barricade with whales, last time tested Troll Bully and now will test Daddy-O 😅

[vague shard]

And they really need 2 days in schedule to do the matching 😄

[rocky otter]

There are 3 skins at least make one of them available for active players but hellll nooooo. You greeddyyy goddmnnn people

[weak ingot]

I am honestly amazed at their ability to print an event that is so absurdly expensive it encourages no one to spend

[vague shard]

Because there are like 50 players that spend on everything no matter of costs. Their spending alone pays the developer costs. Everyone else is just profits

[warped ruin]

LOL check catzilla video! 1000 spin, 49 frags 30-8-11 OMG realy motivating to spend more

[rocky otter]

Imagine one person attacking you with those all 3 skins just log out

[vague shard]

They don’t need 3 more skins to burn 99% of the players with 1 solo attack.

Even mid spenders get burned in a few solos now. Saw a 4B player with collector level 40 something burn after 2 solo in last nexus. Was from a top ~50 all states player, top 10 probably burn in first hit.

[viscid ore]

once again we all have Nexus at 14utc??

Good morning

[wide wraith]

these crossovers are getting progressively worse, at least we have a 22 utc Nexus

aving said its a good time for us, I dont think that will make up for having half the BP of those against us

<@&555639728632758272> please tell me what so-called fun, Nexus is going to be s759 v 524 v 492 and that just those talking so far in the Nexus Chat, what fun will it be for us in S759????

[vague shard]

it's really boring with stronger neigbors. We didn't have our checkpoint 1 last nexus. Only thing we could do was suicide rally against our much stronger neigbor

[wide wraith]

but which idiot thought it would be a good match to place a gen skip state against ones who havent skipped

[misty pewter]

We had them last round 😂

[vague shard]

They don't care. Just put top 100 alliances in their own groups, then fill up with alliances that the top ones can burn for points

[wide wraith]

we have had it for every round

[visual frigate]

Now we have an opponent with 39bn BP

AFO from state 334

[lucid yew]

Wasnt value slots supposed to give 3*skin tickets per coin for recycle

[jagged jewel]

It gives 3 skin tickets for the Value Coin which is what you use to spin. Slot Tokens which are the store currency give 1k supply crates

[lucid yew]

Ohh that makes sense

[jagged jewel]

Yup

[shadow carbon]

You're lucky, mine are 20x bigger than us 😅. The matching for nexus is still extremely poor and unfair, this event is only for the biggest alliances of this game.

[stable cosmos]

It sucks even for them tbh. Even if they're incredibly strong they still have to play for that hour for 7 days.

[shadow carbon]

I would love to play at least, at least they can play

[jovial vigil]

It's a good thing nexus matching "isn't fair". Fair matching would cause big alliances to be trapped and would significantly reduce the rewards they get. On the other hand, small alliances would get tons of rewards. You either don't fix the matching itself (you do need to fix placement) or you significantly reduce the rewards

[tardy night]

Oh no, trickle down economic proponent

Raeganomics died in the 90s. Catch up bud

[shadow carbon]

Normal alliances are not allowed to get rewards, message clear

[tardy night]

This one manages to have the worst opinions of the lot here somehow and this forum has a guy asking for submarines in feedback

[jovial vigil]

Nope, I don't think game should care for small FTP alliances, they should merge and get stronger. Game is encouraging alliances with 60 active members. Which would usually put you in the top 4 for Nexus and allow some play

[tardy night]

That's called wearing blinders

[jovial vigil]

Sorry, it's kinda hard for me, I'm not native in English. Can you just say what you mean instead of spouting nonsense?

[tardy night]

Don't worry about it. It's nonsense

[shadow carbon]

I disagree, matching is fair for RR, it was for MM, why it has to be the opposite for nexus ?

[jovial vigil]

And again, I don't mind them changing the matching for it to be more competitive. They should shift most of the Frontier materials and Glory to other avenues then

[raw breach]

Test completed. Just got for testing 50 power engines and did not get even 1 single skin fragment. And I am super lucky in Casinos😌 alliance informed to skip this Transformer Event. Monkey transforms into a robot

[jovial vigil]

MM, RR, KOTH, all have far less important rewards

[tardy night]

That glory, 2.5% skin will change so much of any battle result

🤣🤣🤣

Muh glory...it makes me survive the 7k stat whale 🤣🤣🤣

[jovial vigil]

If these rewards are so insignificant to you, why are you complaining about matching?

[raw breach]

Especially if u got as oponent alliance twice your size

[misty pewter]

F+ really screwed up this time… I’m sure the spending has drop with this Nexus 💩 and this migo season. Nexus is designed for big spenders with no regards to smaller alliances. Mining in Migo was so drastically changed that f2p or low/mid spenders can’t complete it thus no completion rewards. Goes to show what majority of players here mean to them. And of course the CMs have gone into hiding again 😂

[tardy night]

Cuz a game is about the game moron

[raw breach]

Indeed 2.5% will help me lots😆 i will burn 2% less

[jovial vigil]

For many players Migo is the only way they can obtain skins and sets, in the long run that does matter, collection level, skins other effects etc

[tardy night]

In the long run? Lmao. Retention in game is 2 years or less for 90% of the crowd.

Long run hahahaha

[jovial vigil]

Players should not be punished for being in a good alliance. The game is practically built for an alliance to be bigger and with paying members

[misty pewter]

They don’t care about retention…only that top spenders keep spending

[jovial vigil]

They want more superstates, that's the most profitable for them. It's easier to create superstates when there's less overweight

[tardy night]

This guy thinks a fair opponent is punishing players. ? 🤣🤣

My guy...have you never played a game

Where skill matters

[jovial vigil]

Yes, when stakes and rewards are this high

[tardy night]

Or is it only paying to hunt weak players that you think of as a game 🤣🤣

[normal peak]

So this game still pushes 14utc for nexus even when not one of 3 choices

[tardy night]

Stakes? Wut. It's a game. Touch grass some day

Stakes 🤣🤣

[raw breach]

Nah. I used to spend in this game a lot on skins especially at the beginning. Have a very decent collection level. But since brought spending down to minimum, any new feature kills me in no time. Any player that maxed newest introduced feature beats collection levels. What to say about free to play with couple skins. Skins are useless just for decoration.

[jovial vigil]

Nice to see you have ran out of ideas and started to come after my wording...

[tardy night]

Cuz you're so out of touch with reality your nonsense doesn't warranty anything more

[misty pewter]

I still blame the Joker collab for making me spend on skins 😂

[tardy night]

You're talking about stakes in a pixel game 100% of the crowd won't remember 2 years after it ends. 🤣

[jovial vigil]

Talking mainly on the players that are FTP/micro spenders... It's nearly impossible for them to get skins. It does make a little difference

[raw breach]

It makes 0 difference. It is minimal increase in stats
About 3 or 4 years ago it mattered. 2% skin was a lot. Now it is nothing.just illusion

[jovial vigil]

Players that have played consistently and managed to get 1 premium set every Migo do benefit from it... Yeh it's small but for them it what sets them apart

[tardy night]

What is the benefit

Sets them apart? From who? 5$ spenders?

[raw breach]

As I mentioned you get burned not in 30 seconds but 35

[misty pewter]

It’s just the concept of the game, farming for rss, rewards etc. players lose interest when they can’t do it or the process is too tedious…. It’s not really about the stats…. Just try to get some tempest arms and that 2% is nothing 😅

[jovial vigil]

Yes, something like that. Settings goals that require effort and the ability to achieve them. FTPs have no illusion, they are fairly weak . But having concrete goals you can work towards is what makes this game more enjoyable

[tardy night]

Ah yes. Concrete goals of being the fodder always for the newest maxed in line

Such goals.

Say it like it is. You want easy hunts.

You paid too much for what you think you should have, and now you can't do more. So all you want is rationalising the expenses somehow. And easy low spend is the target you love.

[jovial vigil]

When I just started our highlight was snagging an AC or first occupation reward from big alliances... That means nothing game wise... If they don't want to be cannon fodder they should either quit or pay. This is the current state of the game unfortunately... It requires a fairly extensive overhaul to overturn in

[tardy night]

Or...they could play at a lower alliance fitting their spending level

But you don't want that. You'd rather herd them all in to play against you

[misty pewter]

With the way it’s going…. They will more likely shut it down, re-skin and put it back online as State of Puppies than overhaul 😂

[jovial vigil]

No problem, but they need to understand playing in an alliance that goes against this game's business model has consequences...

[tardy night]

"consequences" 🤣🤣

[jovial vigil]

There's no way they are going back, I don't think they have any financial motive to do so

[tardy night]

Game's business model made more money when they had fair competition. But you have your data I'm sure lmao

It's like the dozens of packs being shoved down don't show what's happening with their trickle down approach and shifting target segment 🤣

[jovial vigil]

They made more money during COVID when everyone was stuck at home and had nothing to spend on

[tardy night]

The company did business before COVID in their other games. Go research and come back

Do a before and after removing the COVID years

So the outlier is ignored.

If you have that data, sure. Prop it up.

Meanwhile, let's have svs change its matching. Top 26 leading states match bottom 26

Cuz that's what su says brings more profit.

[jovial vigil]

Funplus ain't public, there are some articles regarding peak revenue in 2020

[tardy night]

So your entire hypothesis is a figment of your imagination.

Without any basis in factual data. Yes?

[jovial vigil]

No it's based on the articles that states peak revenue in 2020 and refer to state of survival as primary source of it

[tardy night]

You're talking about the company. SoS did not introduce any new business model for its functioning.

[jovial vigil]

Ofc it didn't, most mobile games fall into a few business models and practises. Nothing new

[tardy night]

Come back when you have any data to substantiate that trickle down brings higher profit than their prior approach.

Nonsense is what I'll treat your hypothesis til then. Try look at purchases made during dyz vs val

And purchases made during dyz vs dead state v1.087668886

[jovial vigil]

You obviously hate the game you invest so much time in, you are data picking although you know these stuff aren't publicly available and refuse to accept any logical thinking derived from the little data that we do have. You are not addressing the arguments but rather opt to making fun of people and attack them personally. You think FP owes you anything while paying next to nothing.
FP did good in 2020 because most of the gaming and online entertainment did good in 2020 and there are articles by people who have some data that supports this claim. I assume funplus aren't doing as good because the entire industry isn't doing well and FP latest games weren't as successful. If you want data, I can try to obtain it if you're willing to pay my rates... Otherwise gonna take the word of 2 minutes google search and some AI searches...

[tardy night]

🤣

If I hated the game I would uninstall it, are you sure you're not projecting cuz you need easy fodder to hunt and skill doesn't help you cuz no more money ?

And paying next to nothing...🤣🤣🤣

Your entire paragraph is mulch filled with assumptions that you haven't bothered to spend a minute on. But you want people to take you seriously.

[sweet copper]

This Nexus is even worse

13b and 357b alliances in out match

And those two are neighbours

[tardy night]

1. Data aggregators exist. Several VC firms in China also publish those aggregated figures.

2. Mobile gaming industry is not "suffering", anymore than any other luxury good segment is. Fp lags behind cuz it cares more to divest into new titles than to retain people. A cursory search would show this.

3. Ignore corona as I said, treat it like the outlier, compare revenue of the FP games before and after the introduction of similar non sbmm methods. Again, cursory search in data aggregators for anyone to attempt.

[stable cosmos]

They're never fixing matching. Its stupid as hell but theyre not. I suggest teaming up to burn each other and prevent the big boys doing it to you to deny them the points. Or ignore it and don't even play.

Nexus is super non compulsory

1 astro coin isn't going to save you and the stress of trying to reach ot isn't actually worth it.

[vague shard]

No a coin won't save you. But nice to have a reachable goal that not demanding thosands of dollars to reach.

I never spent much, but even less now when the difference are getting bigger and bigger for every new stuff they release

[jovial vigil]

I'm more than willing to conduct extensive research. But you will have to pay my hourly pay + a pretty big premium for a China related research

[stable cosmos]

Well I've said that one before. Either targets should be attainable by the end of the event or they should just charge to play the game so we can all make a faster quit decision

[tardy night]

So you made all your statements up off your head

Thanks for the clarification. Lol

[stable cosmos]

Its not even like finishing the last bit of the explorer tasks on the last week would do much more than make you go "yay i done it" as there would be few if any real benefits. Devs could alter the exp for books so you got the same amount for completion as you do now for a partial finish. Whales are well ahead on those by now, we're not catching up

[jovial vigil]

You're not so good at reading, ah? I used Google and saw some numbers in English. Not gonna bother doing research in Chinese to appease some internet troll. Please bring data that supports your claims. That FP decline in revenue is tightly connected to them having more and more abusive practises

[tardy night]

"internet troll" 🤣

"mobile industry is suffering it's not FP it's the industry!"

[woven spire]

I dont understand why both legions ALWAYS the same time?

[raw breach]

For us this time same. Did not happen in ages weird

[woven spire]

for us always the same

rr for example we have only 1 option same cause no choice

and guess what

that option twice

KOTH we wont even talk about since it never is different

[tardy night]

Cuz your matches probably manually made

The way they interfered in doomsday, that kinda interference would run a lot for top 30 to 50 alliances to ensure a balance between happy players and good revenue

What's the bet something like this exists 🤣

[woven spire]

wtf

[tardy night]

I'm somewhat sure they got analytics embedded that can pull those numbers out when they wanna.

Skill would have to be set up as a combination of factors but doable easily.

That thing there is for some moba

[woven spire]

Ye, well its getting annoying

some have a alt to play L2 but ye impossible lol

[small sphinx]

Does anyone know why if my alliance registers three times for the Nexus, RR, etc... then they match us on another different time that has NOT been chosen?

[cloud ridge]

Cause FP useless and doesn't care

[raw breach]

Happened to us last nexus. And because of that we did not even have 12 teams inside but only 6

We got assigned nexus and I think was koh we did not select

[calm meteor]

I haven't seen that happening for RR but yes I remember it happened last time on Nexus for some alliances. Did the same thing happen to you?

[stable cosmos]

That happens super frequently. As in the devs do it on purpose

[vale yoke]

Is 14 otherwise their underperforming time slot or something? Is that why they're forcing people into it?

[pallid willow]

Hey f2ps what level is your tundra currently? 🙊

[vale yoke]

All I know is that, while we did select 14 as our last choice for a time, it's the least ideal of our selections yet the most consistently chosen.
For other alliances, they're getting times they didn't select at all, and I wonder how many of them are also finding that time is 14UTC.

If that is an underperforming time slot, I feel like they're funneling players into it to fill it. That isn't an honest participation and therefore doesn't actually provide accurate data to the devs about performances at that time.

[vale yoke]

Which account? I think my freebie is the furthest on it

Lemme check

I was wrong. My main is my highest

Aaaand my screenshot didn't save.

[winter canyon]

60
I gave up🤡

[stable cosmos]

58. Could go higher with my ridiculous speed ups but i don't care enough

[stable cosmos]

We got 1400. We did not select it at all.

[vale yoke]

My full f2p. Posty works so hard... For so little ...

[stable cosmos]

Mine would probably be lower but the 40k concrete we got has seen me through. Just coal and crystals for now

[vale yoke]

Same, and being that we're not a top alliance and never have been, this isn't bad

[winter canyon]

Not even lvl 91 is possible so can't even hope you're lucky🤷🏼‍♀️

[stable cosmos]

If i have concrete near the end I'll chuck some speedups at it to use it all up rater than risk a recycle

[vale yoke]

Yeah, that's the plan here too

Will absolutely have concrete near the end

[winter canyon]

Why bother wasting speedup? Tundra is nothing but a tragedy anyway

[stable cosmos]

I stopped harvesting it. Not that the crystals are that much use.

[winter canyon]

So rather just pretend it doesn't exist🤡

[vale yoke]

Then do it.

There's no need to be pushing ourselves so hard

So stop

[stable cosmos]

I don't want the rss and garbage as they are the tempest bits are useful. And i have something like 700 days of construction speedups

[vale yoke]

We aren't the ones this is geared toward, they want the spenders. We're unimportant to them. So why are we even putting this effort in?

For stats that still won't touch a kraken?

[stable cosmos]

I do hope theres no mining next migo. It is so incredibly boring as a mechanic.

[vale yoke]

Agreed. There are better ways in which to get materials. Or, they just bring back alliance mining

[winter canyon]

Last tundra was awesome. They just made it a tragedy this time by ruining the conversion rate

[stable cosmos]

Give us back underground exploration and let us earn shop crystals by hitting infected in it

[winter canyon]

Nothing wrong with mining. Just send 5 marches and don't need to do anything for the rest of the day

[stable cosmos]

Underground exploration was better than nexus. And trucks. And a multitude of other interactive events.

[vale yoke]

Five marches? Hun, do you know, I only have four marches for mining and my cap is level 7. Most f2p don't have your experience

[stable cosmos]

I have 4 as well. The troop and bio skills were more important

[vale yoke]

You're fairly well carried by your alliance as an f2p, Elizabeth. You're not a normal f2p or anywhere approaching it.

If you've got five marches and, I assume, you can mine level 9, that's not the normal f2p experience at all.

[stable cosmos]

Oh and level 7 cap. I don't think i can beat lvl8.

[vale yoke]

This is the normal f2p experience.

Level 7 cap on all of mine too, and I have trouble if I use the wrong march

[stable cosmos]

I can only use monkey marches. If i don't i lose

[vale yoke]

Exactly

[winter canyon]

My 2nd march loses to mines too...

[vale yoke]

What level

[winter canyon]

9

[vale yoke]

And that's the difference

[stable cosmos]

My first would lose to an 8 i think

[vale yoke]

So would mine

[stable cosmos]

I may test it near the end when i burn remaining skill points on cheaper stuff for survival books

[pallid willow]

Miss the underground 🥹

[vale yoke]

When I talk of the f2p experience, I'm not talking about a player who got picked up by a big alliance and coddled until they were strong, getting top ranking rewards for existing.
I'm talking about players who have to make use of what the game actually provides the f2p, which isn't much.

An f2p who can beat level 9 mines isn't the normal experience.

[stable cosmos]

I still don't really know why they canned underground. They could have just made the shop a little worse. Or reduced rewards. It would have still been pretty good

[vale yoke]

And no, I'm not attacking anyone, but it needs to be stated that there is a big disparity between one person's f2p and another, and the former is not the normal or average experience. The former is what an f2p can be if a top alliance decides they need joiners and picks up someone who listens.

[tame lintel]

Reads

Don't need to listen. Just read the damn plan🤣🤣🤣

[stable cosmos]

I know i am carried a bit actually and could probably be a bunch stronger. But it'd cripple me in later events so i don't

[vale yoke]

Ah yes, that is far more accurate.

And follows directions they're given without asking "why"

[stable cosmos]

If it is not apparent. I am a chatty boy and stay engaged with whats going on even if my bp doesn't help tons

[vale yoke]

... I can't really say anything without it sounding like I'm dogging on my own alliance, but I carry them. As an f2p.

[stable cosmos]

Isn't your whole alliance mostly f2p?

[vale yoke]

We do have some actives as well who share the weight, but when you look at consistent ranking in events and such, my names are the ones bringing home the bacon.

Mostly, yeah.

[winter canyon]

What's wrong with being carried by strong alliance? Having whales who are also good friends can be very beneficial especially when it comes to growth

[vale yoke]

We have more frequent spenders, but they still fall within casual spending range and nowhere close to mid tier. Otherwise it's all f2p and we've managed to maintain our ranking for two years.

[vale yoke]

Being carried for too long makes an f2p dead weight

[tame lintel]

Mid tier is 20k / month now🤣🤣🤣

[stable cosmos]

You have a completely different view of where f2p live in this game

And its not anywhere near a lvl9 mine

[tame lintel]

Screw spending in this game anymore. That died with the 299 packs. Can literally drop 50k diamonds on 299 diamond packs in 1 day 🤣🤣

[vale yoke]

You're a liability compared to a spender because your ability to gain rewards is solely based upon your activity and what others give to you for their ranking as an alliance. And if you garrison or join the right rallies (if you're not kicked out because stronger people can join), you might also end up on some ranking leaderboards as well.
With a spending member, they are almost guaranteed ranking with no need to validate them or encourage them.

[stable cosmos]

Its fine if you're that strong. Congrats i won't put you down for it but you're not playing quite the same game as the rest of us

[vale yoke]

If you give some top alliances the choice between a very active f2p or a sort of active decent spender, they'll choose the spender.

[tame lintel]

Your not liannin.....😒

[winter canyon]

How am I strong?

[vale yoke]

What are your stats, Elizabeth? I have almost five years in this game and I don't touch your stats. Without your alliance, we'd probably be somewhat even.

[winter canyon]

Let me check

[stable cosmos]

Well if you're mining in a lvl9 f2p then yes, you're much stronger than 90% of f2p

[vale yoke]

Of course I am

I think

[tardy night]

<brings popcorn>

[stable cosmos]

Ain't saying you're a whale. But whatever the top 1% of f2p is you're very much in that

[vale yoke]

Yup

[tardy night]

Show vehicles while at it. And formation system

[vale yoke]

Lemme go hit something and I'll bring back the report

Do we want the actual f2p for this one? You have options

[winter canyon]

Look at my losses... how am I strong...

[boreal gate]

Wow red heroes you definitely strong!!! Mines are all yellow

[stable cosmos]

I'm pretty pleased with my formation system. I was level with our resident spenders for the first week or so

Now I'm back to hoarding for events

[winter canyon]

Here are stats

[boreal gate]

🤯

[winter canyon]

Whats your squadron power

[vale yoke]

While Posty is going to slap an infected...

Note that Posty is a P7/8

[stable cosmos]

Stuff all now. My actual planes aren't leveled very high

25 million

[steel musk]

[tardy night]

So lemme get this.

3.4 billion. P12, 38 collection level(?) , 240 formation system, level 4 health and lethality amplification engine units with level 7 other stones too (super easy for f2p)

It's all f2p

In a 700ish state.

And lest we forget, 5 million bio spent to get vip 12

[winter canyon]

I never said it was "super easy"

[steel musk]

I still p10

[tardy night]

Average f2p experience eazy peazy

[vale yoke]

That's an infected hit, an actual f2p who isn't carried by their alliance

[boreal gate]

How does a f2p get 5 mil bios?

Never doing rays place or something?

[winter canyon]

You need to be an active player and also in a strong active alliance who cares about their players

[vale yoke]

Elizabeth, when you're speaking to the f2p experience, you need to understand that YOU'RE not a normal f2p. So sometimes what you say is not representative of what the normal f2p experiences.

[tardy night]

Lucky cards!

And that's also where they get plasma too.

[stable cosmos]

Actually that bit is relatively easy at the moment. Don't wanna talk about it much or the devs might reduce them

[pallid willow]

Yes please don’t 🤣🤣

[tardy night]

It's easy now

Not when vip 12 was achieved.

[vale yoke]

An f2p in a top alliance is extremely rare, and most of us f2p understand that top alliances don't want us except for how we can fill a rally.

No one mention the caps please.

[stable cosmos]

I try to fill those last 200 troops or so

[winter canyon]

There are lots of great people in strong alliances. Why would they not want a F2P?

[vale yoke]

I've definitely joined a rally and contributed the final one troop in a larger alliance

[tardy night]

Oh and also rays spins are still happening cuz those heroes are red.

[vale yoke]

Hey guys? Who wants to tell Elizabeth why a top alliance might not want an f2p as compared to a spender?

Not any specific alliance, just in general, why are f2p not ideal comparatively?

[daring sapphire]

I'm 350m bp and my stats (some of them) are better. Not funny, didn't laugh

[vale yoke]

It's hilarious

That's my smallest account

[daring sapphire]

Haii Liannin

[vale yoke]

The joke is that my larger accounts aren't much stronger

[steel musk]

[daring sapphire]

Less crates...not as strong (debatable)

[winter canyon]

What's up CR7? Why are you upset?😔

[daring sapphire]

I'm P3 in S1, yet I'm good enough to humble some weak P9

I call that a win

[vale yoke]

I just try to be a little bit more well rounded as a character than the day before

[daring sapphire]

Lemmie go make an infected attack so I can have a recap of my stats

[vale yoke]

Yeee!

Hang on, I'll move to my main and do so too, then everyone can point and laugh

[cloud ridge]

[stable cosmos]

We are unable to significantly contribute to any rally or hit anything solo for any sort of impact. We cannot lead a rally in a pinch. We are occasionally a liability if zeroed out of a rally. We take up a space that could be held by someone that isn't all those things.

Plenty negatives. I'm glad my alliance is about playing the game together

[winter canyon]

Is it because we have small behemoths?

[steel musk]

not upset..
maybe Devs listen to emoji.. looks words doesn't help anymore lol🤣

[winter canyon]

But behemoth isn't everything

I beat plenty people with gold behemoth and I have purple

[daring sapphire]

Behemoth skill upgrades are everything

And also Squadrons

[winter canyon]

Stronger than me... I'm not even half your combat moral lmao

[cloud ridge]

In rallies, even the smallest of differences matter

[winter canyon]

Scrooge also F2P, right?

[daring sapphire]

Yes

[cloud ridge]

Solos is different scenario than in rallies,

[winter canyon]

I've beat many gold behemoth players even at -15% disadvantage

At water tanks, path of water etc.

[daring sapphire]

I'm just a girl P3 🎀

[winter canyon]

1 F2P joining a rally is not going to lead to -15%... maybe -3% at most... it's not going to ruin a rally

Troop tier and formation matter way more

If you lose power duel it's over basically

[cloud ridge]

It's possible, but there's other factors as well that go into it. Just cause someone has a gold monke and dino doesn't mean their strong and often they'll be "fake"

[tardy night]

The rest of this is fun too.

[daring sapphire]

20m hero power?

[steel musk]

[tardy night]

Wonder if that 697 dude (yiddy?) has seen this yet. His rules could be improved

[cloud ridge]

Is this some alliances rules?

[tardy night]

State rules in some game

[daring sapphire]

Hey hey, don't hide your combat morale from me :)

[winter canyon]

Are you also in strong alliance Scrooge?

[cloud ridge]

Ah ok, thought some allaince was making people sign contracts to join them 😂

[winter canyon]

23 moral is very impressive

[pallid willow]

Im cringing hard

[daring sapphire]

23 is nothing

[cloud ridge]

23 is a lot more than three average person has though

[daring sapphire]

Ye, I tend to join and be appreciated in top 1-2 alliances in states I join

[steel musk]

[daring sapphire]

Literally grind 2 events and a few thousand pearls

Pffff

[winter canyon]

For spenders, having 23 moral is bad
For F2P, that's extremely impressive

[daring sapphire]

Gonna aim for +40 soon

[cloud ridge]

You'll still have more than most though, the moral buff helps but it's again mainly for leads, stronger your general stats are the better the bonus

[unreal lichen]

Combat morale can be deceiving also.

[daring sapphire]

Cm is goofy

I vibe with going after attack/defense stats

Speaking of which, I should go ascend my epic Tempest Arm I crafted some time ago

Brb

[winter canyon]

Better go for lethality and HP

[boreal gate]

Ive seen people with better stats lose against people with higher combat morale in 1v1 in pow

Id say its not deceiving at all

[vale yoke]

Look again, my friend, I've hidden nothing

[daring sapphire]

Huh. Wait, where combat morale

Don't tell me u are a P8/9 with 0 cm

[pallid willow]

Is there

[boreal gate]

Its not there

[daring sapphire]

I got choke slammed rn

[winter canyon]

Speaking of POW

[stable cosmos]

I hate TA

[daring sapphire]

Noone spoke about pow

[vale yoke]

Then I won't tell you. I'll show you.

[winter canyon]

I win with -11% behemoth... she also had both behemoth gold and also higher combat moral

[pallid willow]

But morale from ta still counts as if from the sets tho

[daring sapphire]

That's impressive

[cloud ridge]

Heros and formation most likely

[boreal gate]

She’s using bad heroes😂

[stable cosmos]

Bleh.

[winter canyon]

I have other reports too

[vale yoke]

All this to say, the experience of an f2p supported by a top alliance is very very different from the average f2p across most states. And when providing feedback or speaking of the experience as an "f2p", it's important to be speaking to and for the majority of those players.

[stable cosmos]

Should always take it from worst case anyway. I have a different experience becuse my alliance has some strong people in it, that means you need to look at how that impacts the weaker ones. Which is often a lot...

[daring sapphire]

If you play actively and nicely, noone stops you from getting into top alliances

[winter canyon]

I just want this HQ skin😅

[vale yoke]

Some of us don't want to be in top alliances because of the pressures and requirements

[daring sapphire]

I believe in ya

[daring sapphire]

...what kind of requirements are there other than just participating in events?

[stable cosmos]

Matching remains super unfair and i wish they'd even it out even if that meant tiering the rewards more.

[daring sapphire]

Same

[stable cosmos]

Course i wish they'd adjust rewards more anyway and provide a higher volume of old but useful stuff at the lower rankings

[winter canyon]

As for collector level I'm closer to 0 than to 70...

[vale yoke]

I've seen some crazy things, from f2p only being allowed to be used to reinforce, to f2p being kicked out of rallies and garrisons, to f2p being set up as meat shields for the spending members. I've seen some alliances have a spending requirement so they don't take f2p, I've seen some only take "f2p" (2nd Construct or low tier spenders), I've seen some with daily activity requirements for how much their f2p have to be on and active or they get kicked out...

I mean, it's all types.

[stable cosmos]

I would also accept alternative things like the light plane parts that aren't worth points. Drag f2p up a little bit more but doesn't let them rank for the good prizes

[cloud ridge]

Good luck, probably cheaper to buy in event or skin store if it ever comes

[vale yoke]

And I don't fault top alliances for having these choices. They have as much an investment as other players

[daring sapphire]

Sounds rough and toxic, ngl

[vale yoke]

They have to make tough decisions sometimes in order to favor the majority of their own players and support their state

[daring sapphire]

Closest I got to that is...idk, kick if offline for 2 days

[stable cosmos]

Yep. Thats totally fair. Not my idea of nice but its fair if you want to be top of game

[winter canyon]

Kicking players out for not wanting to spend is simply toxic behavior

[vale yoke]

But that said, it's uncommon for an f2p to be in a top alliance, especially for a long enough time to actually grow well, and it shouldn't be used to speak to the majority of f2p experiences.

[winter canyon]

I feel sorry for everyone who got excluded or kicked out because of that

[daring sapphire]

Ngl, Only benefits I get from that are just strong teammates during events. But then Nexus comes (80b vs 200b alliances), RR (16 members vs 30) and it doesn't really matter, hahah

[stable cosmos]

I want a 3rd legion in rr still. And give back saturday

[vale yoke]

I told my alliance four years ago that I would do everything I could to keep the game f2p for them, but it would mean sacrificing some events for others, and being lower levels than their spending counterparts.
They knew what they were getting into and we're still here four years later, so I'm good with it.

[stable cosmos]

Nexus is at least a pretty easy sacrifice. Total junk

[daring sapphire]

Fr lmao

OH, speaking of which

I should be getting more collection points from MIGO sets

Gonna complete 2 sets at once probably

[vale yoke]

Ugghhhh.. . Nexus .. . We voted for it to be optional if people wanted MIGO stuff this time around because people just didn't like it. Cyan, it really should just be two days. You were right.

[daring sapphire]

Nexus is nice and fun, only thing that ruins it for me is matchmaking

My, now separated, alliance XDR had me as their general during Nexus. Felt nice to lead a small army of bloodthirsty cuties

Xd

If you wanna be an actively growing f2p, then you should output as much activity during events for your alliance. That's how I got into XDR in the first place

[raw breach]

Ohh this reminds me of when we only started do play during covid. Indeed we had some alliances in the state that did not allow f2p to reinforce capitol etc but checked if they are online to tap healing. Some crazy things

[daring sapphire]

Top2 alliance in S1 accepting a 15m fresh settlement, with only condition being an active player

Worked out nicely and I enjoyed every second of my time in there

Hehe

[mighty gorge]

Why is that crazy?

[vale yoke]

One of mine really got into it, so I wasn't surprised when he voted for it as an event to do. He might be willing to be the leader for the event; good instincts.

[daring sapphire]

Sounds fine to me

[vale yoke]

Awww yup, the clerics.

F2p for heals

[mighty gorge]

Well its not. It depends on your perspective.

[daring sapphire]

Having strong capital reinforcement is a common sense

F2p can tap tap and reinforcement towers for the change

[mighty gorge]

And people need to not associate F2P with weak in the context of the game back in 2020

[vale yoke]

I'm not weak!

I'm adorable

[mighty gorge]

I didn't mean you lol

[vale yoke]

Lol I know

[daring sapphire]

I'm not weak

(If you are a returning high plasma, I'll eat you alive(

[vale yoke]

I'm redefining "weak"

Also, cornering the market on mediocrity.

[mighty gorge]

It annoys me no end that people that think getting their own personal points is greater than winning capital (as it was in 2020) and not all working towards why that was/is the case and its neccessary to make sacrifices for one player over another to do so

It has nothing to do with F2P

[daring sapphire]

Getting solo points is a dumb goal. Should be thinking in the interest of the alliance

You get them from kills anyway, not gonna miss out on rewards

[mighty gorge]

These days CC is just as boring as some other events, even in new states its just, meh. Now all you get is hours of one alliance sat there doing nothing while people send solos

[daring sapphire]

Kinda true ig

[vale yoke]

nods

We still have fun in my state, thankfully, but more and more people are saying that same thing, Cerb

[mighty gorge]

Its that bad in (some new) states they actually designate 'towers' for alliances that can't compete

[vale yoke]

I have realized that people think my alliance doesn't do things because we can't, not because we just don't want to or have the time

Was offered a bunker, and I was like "nah, it's cool, we won't take it without a fight".

[mighty gorge]

Anyway, I was mostly here just to say hi lol

Kinda not been around much lately

[vale yoke]

Realized people actually think we just don't fight because we can't, not because we're working adults, parents, and grandparents, with different schedules and actual lives.

[mighty gorge]

Game is just...meh, I don't know if I want to continue

I haven't even logged in since Wed night

or been bothered with Nexus today

I should go on holiday to wherever Elizabeth is lol

[mighty gorge]

is this today?

[vale yoke]

By the way, that intro looks so much cooler than the Collab actually is

That was actually well done, but the collaboration itself is already a disappointment

[mighty gorge]

Unsurprisingly

I had a feeling it would be

just by how it was laid out

[winter canyon]

Before my vacation, I spent days here crying and ranting about Tundra, seasonal badges etc.

As a F2P player, I've been fighting for F2P ever since I discovered this channel... just because I'm in a strong alliance doesn't make my feedback less valid... as far as the game is concerned my biggest wish is to minimize the gap between F2P and spenders and to allow F2P to have a better game experience

I had the chance to spend money, multiple times. I wanted to buy Angelica and unlock her. However, I chose to stay F2P and continue to try to grow my base, no matter how difficult it is.

Sorry for this rant. I will head to the pool soon. Please remember that we are all affected by the awful releases of new features...

[misty pewter]

That video pop up after a 200+mb update…. I hope that’s not the size of the video file 😂

[vale yoke]

37mb 🤣

I'm honestly surprised it even actually recorded without lag because the game thinks it's more important than my Motorola Game Manager

And my antivirus

[mighty gorge]

You're gonna make me login now...

Sometimes Liannin....

[vale yoke]

You adore me?

[mighty gorge]

[coarse verge]

What 👀?!

[winter canyon]

btw... excluding f2p players and kicking them out of rallies is just bullying... no excuses for such ridiculous behavior

[vale yoke]

Hang on cuz there's another video coming

Boom goes the dynamite

[mighty gorge]

Well that too lol, but telling me something a disappointment, I have to now check how much of a disappointment it actually is, so I can' also rant about how much of a disappointment it is

[vale yoke]

I'm showing youuuu

[normal peak]

Just blind rant like I do

[vale yoke]

My hand is already clenched in a fist for prime shaking

[winter canyon]

idk what has gotten into me lately

[tardy night]

#🎊︱pacific-rim-collaboration

Heh

[vale yoke]

What am I meant to do there?

Wait, today's Friday right?

Brain time travelled

Thought yesterday was Sunday and wondered why my trash hadn't been collected yet

[unreal lichen]

The reality is in many events you have to stack your rallies and garrison defense with the strongest players possible.

[cloud ridge]

For top allainces it is, comes down to what you want, kicking weaker from rallies and that can be quite common

[vale yoke]

Very much so

[brazen peak]

[vale yoke]

It's not done with malice, either

[mighty gorge]

Alcohol, food, sun, beaches, pools?

[brazen peak]

Hi all

[vale yoke]

That's the thing. It's not people picking on other people just booting them out of rallies and garrisons.

It's prioritizing properly the ability to occupy and hold

And therefore increase alliance ranking overall

[opal pilot]

EVERY message contain the word F2P will be ignored

[winter canyon]

I'm just glad I got to celebrate the 4th of July with my family. I managed to forget about the game. It was the best night😊

[tardy night]

Apart from rr and svs center, where does that need to occur :-?

[winter canyon]

You do realize that it is possible to stack 8 behemoth and 20 aircraft in the rally without bullying F2P, right?

[unreal lichen]

Where is anybody saying kicking anyone because they are F2P 😅

[cloud ridge]

It is, just not always possible in the moment

[vale yoke]

That's a good point, Kenny. I did mention that f2p are more likely to be kicked, but it's not an experience only limited to f2p

[brazen peak]

[vale yoke]

Low spends, and even mid spends get it too, depending on the alliance and situation

[cloud ridge]

We're not a strong alliance, have a mix of spenders and f2p, no one gets kicked from rallies or alliance due to their spending statue.

If we want to try a "strong" rallie though then yes, we'll kick or ask the weaker joiner not to fill the rallie

[opal pilot]

cause why they should care about f2P ? for them its a buisness and for buisness, you pay you get, for them F2P just suck their energy for no benefits

[winter canyon]

First, 20 players join with 100K troops
Lead sends 1st joiner back and he rejoins with behemoths
Lead sends 2nd joiner back and he rejoins with behemoths
Repeat with joiner 3-8

[cloud ridge]

In the top allainces though or least more competition ones it's a more common occurrence

[unreal lichen]

1 minute rallies has changed things though. It is hard to start a rally. Look at it. Send players back and rejoin inn1 minute. Then rallies leave not full

[winter canyon]

Daily active users? You do realize that popular games make more $$$?

[cloud ridge]

Then you got to take into account plasma level and troop level which say the crystal research stats will be used and plane levels etc.

You still need the strongest in at times, doing it all the time when you don't need to is unnecessary but when you need the strongest it's to be expected

[tardy night]

What is the core of a war game without any victims

[opal pilot]

our point of view as f2P is different than dev point of view

[tardy night]

You probably tout it as a war game.

What's a war where no one is killed. F2p are central to establishing a war hierarchy.

Without the low spend chasing the ceiling and the f2p grinding to chase the low spend, you don't have any product to sell.

It's fomo. What's fomo where there's no one who you fear will catch up?

[misty pewter]

Hmm there seems to be a new version of SOS in app store... survival frontline

[vale yoke]

Oh, are they preparing for another player exodus? How quaint.

[winter canyon]

You expect everyone to be P15 T12?😅

Well, one day we will get there too...

[cloud ridge]

Nope

[vale yoke]

No but the devs expect everyone to want to want to be, and therefore spend on it. The people who do will be more prioritized than the people who don't, just in terms of what's needed to accomplish points earnings and rankings in events with how rigged the matchmaking is.

[winter canyon]

So how is troop tier an issue then?

[vale yoke]

Life as an f2p means accepting that you will have to work 20 times harder and 50 times longer to accomplish the same things a spender can, and that you might not be as important to the alliance and/or state as someone who spends is simply because of that gap in strength.
Doesn't matter how active a player is, in those conditions. It's how the game is coded.

[cloud ridge]

You're strongest guys and my strongest guys will be different, we don't have any p15s, just one p14. We're mainly p10 - p13 alliance

Troop wise, the level of the special skills for crystal troops is a factor in rallies, obviously the more higher levels of t12 tech you have the better in the rallie.

Same for the troop level itself, t11 are alright, t10 are useless and make the rallie much weaker. If we have a p13 with t10 troops in a rallie it makes it much weaker, compared to a p10 with t12 troops

[winter canyon]

Who would use T10?

[cloud ridge]

We're mainly a f2p alliance as well to be fair, just it's different for everyone

[vale yoke]

Someone who joins the rally and doesn't have anything stronger

Like an f2p

[cloud ridge]

Really low actives and f2ps 😂

We still have them here, but if they join they join if it doesn't matter, if we need stronger guys in then we'll just ask them to not join

There's nothing wrong with a f2p, lower spender, mid spender etc. It just comes down to the alliance your in, how competitive you want to be and the situation

[winter canyon]

That player must've made a huge mistake if he/she doesn't even have t11 after years of playing the game😅

No offense but...

[vale yoke]

We're also mainly f2p, and every event is an optional one, so it doesn't really matter to us what everyone sends. If it's something that requires a specific march or formation or something, we just say it beforehand and deal with what comes.

[cloud ridge]

They just don't play daily, we have a few who come on, do dailys then dip

[warped ruin]

they lied, its fixed a months ago.. LOL

[cloud ridge]

It's like whatever, yes it hurts us overall but it's not reason enough to like kick them

[vale yoke]

Not all f2p are super active, either, Elizabeth. That's another thing. I have multiple players in my alliance under plasma level.

[cloud ridge]

They lie about a lot of things, including the alliance tower issue that still hasn't been fixed 👀👀👀👀👀

[vale yoke]

And we've been an alliance since June 2020

[winter canyon]

Still I don't think they should be excluded... they can join the 2nd lead and double rally

[vale yoke]

And with us, they aren't, but with other alliances, they might be

[cloud ridge]

No, they shouldn't fully, again it depends on the situation you're in

[vale yoke]

Especially a top alliance

Which they would be unlikely to be allowed in anyway

[winter canyon]

Denying players points is evil... I understand if you want to win but there are ways around this

[vale yoke]

Not many top alliances are going to actively accept a player under plasma one, unless it's a farm or alt

And they certainly won't allow their troops to enter rallies of importance

Or garrisons

It's not them being mean or bullying

It's a matter of the game mechanics for specific events. Success means meeting the check marks for what makes a strong rally or garrison, and someone sending a batch of t8s amidst t12 fully maxed crystal energy troops from p13-15 does not meet that.
So yeah, they might be excluded to prioritize the event and overall earnings. They shouldn't be, but they might be.
I don't agree with it, but it is what sometimes happens.

[steel musk]

[vale yoke]

For my alliance, we just don't care. Heck yeah join it, get right in there, get those points.

[winter canyon]

Props to you❤️

Thank you for not bullying and throwing your players under the bus

[vague shard]

Most players aren't in an top alliance. So they are welcome to join in a lot of places.
Sure if a rally fail we might ask strongest joiners to join first, but no kicking

Bad thing is that everyone is now forced to fight a top alliance in nexus. Which make that event suck

[winter canyon]

We won last nexus

[vale yoke]

It's what we stand for.

[winter canyon]

I'm heading to the pool. I might be back later or maybe I will just enjoy and forget about the sad parts of the game
Have a good day everyone🥰

[loud olive]

the struggle of devs listenin to feedback and actualy DO somethin useful makes me want to quit... lookin on the opponents we got again in nexus is just.. bad joke, most likely gonna end with this migo

[vale yoke]

The pool sounds so nice...

[misty pewter]

It's just different ways of playing the game... I usually play as a f2p in similar games till I get bored and delete the game... unfortunately in SOS, I was roped into an alliance that was overly chatty and I had to come out of my shell 😂

[vale yoke]

All I gotta say about my experience is... Mistakes were made lol

[worldly sable]

All of the gacha/gambling aspects truly makes me hates the game more and more daily

Just let us buy what we want - give a fair price for the amount given. It’s not hard

[warped ruin]

totally agree.. to add to your point about gambling, I'm really tired of 30-40 parallel events, useless rewards, and playing all day long..

[mighty gorge]

This is exactly what I said before lol

[worldly sable]

Having to roll random stats and skills for in game items feels bad enough. Making us do it for parts for resonated heroes and behemoth skins is complete garbage

[mighty gorge]

"Fun Plus, Killing the Game One Bundle, One Event, One Feature at a time"

It should be their catchline

[worldly sable]

It’s not inaccurate

[mighty gorge]

I didn't say they wouldnt do each of those cumulatively

[vale yoke]

The company has a decided lack of chill regarding these things and it really harshes my mellow.

[mighty gorge]

The company has decided to increase their level of poor behaviour and culture

[vale yoke]

Culture... Like... Cottage cheese?

[worldly sable]

This is just fooking dumb, I’m considering abandoning this collab lol

[tardy night]

What's the odds on it? Haven't checked

[untold stag]

Because it is the 4th of July here in the U.S., I took the day off of playing. I came back and realized just how much time is taking from me. I almost felt overwhelmed at how many things I had left undone. I can see why people are just throwing in the towel with this game.

[misty pewter]

Catzilla did 1000 tries, got 49 frags, so.... 😂

[weak ingot]

30 of those were from top up

I think he got 19 frags from 1000 rolls

[tardy night]

Is it around 0.05% or something?

[weak ingot]

Yeah

.79% for 1

[misty pewter]

One thing for sure... I wouldn't be surprised if I see the top players in our Nexus match having the new skins 😂

[weak ingot]

Dior has already spent on them

And unfortunately justified the cost of this collab for sos

[tardy night]

Cuz they go down to 0.00025 later in some odds. The odds are a decent indicator of who they're fleecing and how many of those are within the game.

[weak ingot]

[misty pewter]

Hmm did they reduce the number of free relocators to 5? Last nexus was 10

[mighty gorge]

Nexus matching is working well for these guys

[pallid willow]

Give us more stamina ffs

[rocky otter]

%0.029 = %0 😂

[astral stratus]

I've VAL and TFA on the map. My prediction is, we with 60b alliance bp wont even take lvl 5 City. They needed 3 minutes today for their lvl 2 cities plus all villages

[exotic wasp]

[astral stratus]

Have mercy Sparta! We play with like 4 people

[exotic wasp]

I will search for you in the game

[mighty gorge]

Oopsie. Just ask Lisa/Vega to go easy on you 😛

Wait. I'll ask for you

[misty pewter]

Just get zeroed, get the points and have fun in real life rest of nexus 😂

[mighty gorge]

There you go

[astral stratus]

What is love? Baby dont hurt me

[mighty gorge]

Fighting the good fight!

[astral stratus]

I'm fine if they do just let us have something

[mighty gorge]

We got you covered 🤣

@worldly sable

🤣

[worldly sable]

[still tapir]

Yeah our nexus matching is also the best. On the left side of us we have 146 bil & 90 billion but to the right of us we have 300 billion & 60 billion. Guess who we have to fight for city 5? You guessed it that 300 billion bp to our 207 billion. Our only hope is they don't have both angelica and selina but we have yet to be that lucky. 😂

Great matchmaking right there

[slow thicket]

I didnt see yet teams we had in nexus but think it will be fun again 🤣

just looked, one team at 210bp, another with 160bp, some with 90 bp and some low as us. So its exactly what i thought, matching is the same each nexus to advantage big alliances.

[vale yoke]

We only have eleven alliances on our leaderboard. The twelfth, I guess, never showed up? They're not even listed 🤣

[still tapir]

Yep brilliant matchmaking. I'd be fine if our we were on the opposite site of the top alliance but nope they are our first fight. So yea no city 5 and likely lose our checkpoint

[boreal gate]

Lisa never goes easy

[woven spire]

Little more due the currency

[misty pewter]

I think they just ran out of alliances... we only had 11 last round too

[untold stag]

We lost 2 alliances last game. They never even took their L2s.

[pallid willow]

Where is our Christmas tree tho? 🤔

[unreal lichen]

Do troops trained in nexus get added to troop count on the main map? Some say we should not train in nexus because they don’t get added to troop count on main map, so basically wasted. What is true?

Anyone know the true answer?

Getting tired of moving in and out of nexus just to train troops

[low stump]

Hello Test, sorry for the tag

[unreal lichen]

I’m not asking about merits

I am asking if troops trained in nexus add to my troop count on the main map

Or do troops trained in nexus stay in nexus

And don’t add to my troop count on the main map

[tame jackal]

When you train troops, leave nexus

[unreal lichen]

It seems dumb to have an event so fundamental to the game penalize us for doing basic stuff like training troops. Completely dumb

[tame jackal]

This is what you should expect from the devs of this game, just dumb stuff

[unreal lichen]

Another question. Is there any benefit from the mansion? I may have missed something, but to me it just looks like a place to park useless decorations. I cannot see any benefit like I see on the island

[shadow sluice]

Absolutely no benefit but u can invite other ppl and walk arround the mansion 😂

[unreal lichen]

So they can be bored too rofl

[shadow sluice]

Yes 🤣

[unreal lichen]

If no benefit, geez, why add this? Use your resources devs to do something useful not add useless junk to the game 🙄

[vale yoke]

They know they can sell us aesthetics and collectibles and pets and mansions and islands and we will buy them, we being the player base. So why would they stop?

There is no incentive for the devs to really do anything we want because so many players have already shown them that we'll play their game anyway.

I mean, look at us, our monkeys and dinos can now cosplay as Jaegers.

[slow thicket]

Shhhhhh don't give them ideas 🤣🤣🤣

[unreal lichen]

Lol…they have plenty of ideas I’m sure to milk their addicted player base. Every week several new things for people desperate to stay maxed to buy. Sad 😔. Many need SoS Anonymous lol

[low stump]

My apologies then 🤗

[vale yoke]

Does trex with Jaeger count as mechagodzilla?

Or is that a future collaboration we expect for skins?

Only time will tell

[daring sapphire]

Shin Godzilla skin for Mk. II

[vale yoke]

We shouldn't joke, considering they keep partnering with affiliates of Warner and Warner has a buuuunch of IP (I'm sure for cheap cheap too)

[daring sapphire]

Shin is not Warner as far as I remember

This pookie is too innocent for SOS

I don't want them to massacre my boy in a low poly model

[vale yoke]

Correct, they don't own Shin, but they do own King Kong and they own the game I can't name because of server rules which features King Kong and Godzilla, as well as the movie and other related or subsequent IP.

FP would have to get in touch with Toho or Universal for Shin anything.

I had to double check that affiliation, sorry that took a minute

[daring sapphire]

All good, luv u

[regal warren]

Troops trained in nexus, don't count towards your overall troop count in nexus, but they DO count towards your permanent overall troop count out of nexus.
It's not hard to test, just make note of your troop count before you enter nexus,then enter nexus, train like 10 troops,leave nexus and check your overall troop count again.

[wide wraith]

they must have changed it, because training in the Nexus gave me a few troops after i ran out

[regal warren]

Possibly, but they def do count towards your troops out of nexus because I just tested it😅

[wide wraith]

yeah i think its both

[stable cosmos]

Still think next behemoth is a wolf. George. Lizzy. Ralph. They lack imagination so would surely copy that.

And the trex skin is 100% necrosan.

[foggy osprey]

What if ends up being unicorn ( just asking as I saw a lot of people asking for unicorn )

[weak ingot]

They’re adding in pets this year lmao

[foggy osprey]

Yes I know

I will not lie if I say I want that tiger

[weak ingot]

Tiger costs 50$ to unlock and 5 million to max and will give 5000% lethality

[foggy osprey]

will look pretty in settlement, thats enough

[weak ingot]

If I’m going to lose, I’m going to lose in ✨ style ✨

[foggy osprey]

Well we will see how it will go

So far we have this new collab here. Not my style

[daring sapphire]

I'm excited for the plasma puss

With the Y

[foggy osprey]

Anyways how is it going with plasma upgrades? any new p14 -15?

[wide wraith]

need more free plasma and poly to complete my p15 inf and riders

[foggy osprey]

Same here

If you would like you can write feedback about it in #📋︱feedback-reporting and if you are not sure how you can check #📋︱feedback-how-to Or ofcourse you can ask any mod to help you ❤️

[slow thicket]

Need some upgrades for my p8 to be destroyed by maxed p15 in nexus

[foggy osprey]

Was it at least at last day of nexus?

[slow thicket]

Nop when they could do cp

[foggy osprey]

Same thing happened to some people from our alliance in one nexus we had

How many troops you have?

[slow thicket]

Some of us had more than 10 millions of troops, destryed in one attack by 10 p15 but matching is working as its said 🙄

[foggy osprey]

Yes can imagine, some are just way too strong

[manic gorge]

So i have a question. Not sure if this is the right place to put it.... But when are MOD applications coming back? I have been trying to apply to be a MOD in my state, as we do not have one, and can't even apply.

[mossy cairn]

Hello , for now they are still closed , we cant give you a specific date for the moment , just keep your eye out for the anouncement in the server info updates and we will surely also update you when they are open.

[feral mango]

Having GM’s that aren’t bots and actually answer messages would be helpful

Mine replies 3 days later saying my question will be answered soon and usually gets ignored

[pallid willow]

But seriously tho did anyone else christmas tree dissappear? :’)

[tame jackal]

this dev's...

[prisma plume]

Seriously. They changed it. Wtf

Please kill the game faster

[misty pewter]

honestly, they were giving us too much 🤣

[prisma plume]

No such thing with the power gap

[marble grove]

Really? This is why we cannot have nice things

2x the amount, 200x more cost

[marble grove]

I noticed images were going on decorations page, but just guessed they gonna reskin them so they can drop it again this Christmas 🤣

[coarse verge]

Ok , I thought it was my imagination

[stable anvil]

Thats some stupid inflation prices, 25usd for 200 speedups once discounted , but when you go for poly bundle and get 30 or so poly and 180hr of general speedups

[pallid willow]

Delulu is devs life moto

[stable anvil]

One dev must of been like, oh thats too generous need to take it back and charge them 5x the price

[stable cosmos]

I obviously still have it as the skill is there. If i go into my junk island its been placed as its 0/1. So I've got one. I cannot actually find it

[misty pewter]

The Xmas tree pixels have been missing a while… not a priority over at F+ hq since they are plotting daily how to screw us over 🤣

[solid oriole]

be happy that they didn't just take back from backpack 300h that they gave before. I would not surprised if they would do it

[lean leaf]

its invisible

click on random empty looking spots in your hq or island and you will find it xD

[charred swift]

Christmas event should be next week so I’ll guess it will reappear then

[misty pewter]

Nope…. For the rest of the year, it will be F+ celebration, 1000s of bundles available daily, nothing for f2p, ridiculous collab, loads of skins available and the months long event will be call “F+ You Daily” 🤣

[warped ruin]

migo materials removed from nexus fiend.. LOL nice

[pallid willow]

We need more stamina

[warped ruin]

haha no more 100h speedup in boost store 🤣 this was also only once,.. probably by mistake.. haha FP good motivation

[pallid willow]

I wonder if they realised or there was some snitch 😒

[warped ruin]

even if we get something good by accident, it's only once, because they realize they gave too much.. 🤣

[pallid willow]

Still there but is not in every rally

[forest kiln]

No, but you know SOS is all about gambling and 0.01% chances. 🤣 Out of 10 rallies, maybe 1 get that MIGO material, and quantity will be far away from that showed as reward.

[jovial vigil]

There are over 110 bundles currently available in the game, not including the regular ones... Don't you think you went a tad too far?

[warped ruin]

Thanks for the feedback!
I added 50 more bundles and RNG crates.
Enjoy the game!
F+

[jovial vigil]

Yeh, that's also a problem, about 20 RNG crates and like 10 more gambling stuff such as pinball, hammer thing, pacific rim Collab etc

[raw breach]

At beginning I thought I am imagining but nope so from 100 hour speedups for 4 coin now we get 2hours for 5

What a bargain

[warped ruin]

just optimized 😄

[steel musk]

@merry scroll
why FP greedy ? and every update they make game worse

[rocky otter]

At the beginning I thought they made 2x 100h

And of course f noooo. This fokn fart plus game

Put behemoth chests, aircraft chests’, red crystals, plasma but heck noooo

[rocky otter]

Just don’t spend this garbage anymore

[warped ruin]

just random release again :d the reward and the time spent are inversely proportional, as with pow.. another event that I only play when I'm terribly bored

no, our state is not dead 😄

[raw breach]

I thought same was like wow

[near mesa]

Oh yea 100%, and how is your dev chat

[stable cosmos]

Still no quick heal for cc huh. Coming soon for a bundle purchase probably

[hollow pebble]

It came 2 times, the previous one and the one before that. Devs really care…. About bundles

[vale yoke]

The dev chat they won't give me still 🫠

[hollow pebble]

Wouldn’t surprise me, they put fast drill also behind paywall

So they are known to do it

[neon crypt]

So this new desert survival thing, are we not supposed to be able to set our marches?

[civic star]

Exactly, all marches are already fixed for that event

[stable cosmos]

That won't last long then. Someone will complain they can't use their own BP and it'll be pow v2

[civic star]

Dnt even remind me!! lol I stilll hate pow cz of that

[distant gull]

Explain this???

Re-release Paywall event and ended up endless paywall

I know different rewards

Devs are you serious braindead?

[sly fossil]

look at the rewards of this new desert mini game. Then imagine the time it takes to get to certain rewards. Then look at for example the Kill Infected event rewards and how quickly you can get good rewards there. No point for me to go into desert game and waste time.

rewards on events are really terrible these days.

best example of worst rewards ever, CC.

[distant gull]

Desert Survival lose streak I hate it

[distant gull]

cc for Gen 2 its useful reward but rewards didnt change for past 5 years

[stable cosmos]

Will one up that with KE. Its all garbage except half the final prize

[sly fossil]

They have a buggy Nexus running, POW is running but not smoothly. It's CC day, and now they add another event to test on a live server. With all the money they make on this game they should have at least 4 beta test server instead of using beta's on the live server

[sly fossil]

Most rewards that matter you will never get as you need to spend big money to compete with the whales.

takes the fun out of FunPlus

today we did some testing - mid spenders filled a tower completely. 1 whale did a solo attack. He had 300 injuries and won the tower. Stats are insane, no fun to battle anymore. See, they take the fun out of the game.

So even if you spend a little bit, you're doomed. Better of buy cigarettes. gives less stress and at least you have some joy from that aditction lol

[stable cosmos]

Oh yeah the gap is insane. They could pull it back over like 8 updates but they won't

[sly fossil]

yeah, lot of people seriously thinking about quiting after todays testing. We will see tho.

[stable cosmos]

Community keeps people playing most of the time.

[sly fossil]

yes, but the payment stops.

low payment, high complaints. You already notice that's going on right now. As support is ... well lets say its just a robot with automatically replying messages. As they don't do anything.

even on the 'secret menu' you get auto replies. And if you have a valid bug , they repeat with saying they need more information from you. Videos and what not. But 2 weeks after you reported it. its hilariously sick

anyways, don't want to fill up your nice weekend with negative talks. Enjoy your weekend all.

[misty pewter]

What do the devs expect? It’s cc day 😂

[sly fossil]

they expect you to pay them to fix it

😏

[misty pewter]

Ok then don’t fix it 🤣🤣🤣

[forest kiln]

Wow, nothing new

🤣

[misty pewter]

No, you can’t say that… the ticket design is new! 😂

[forest kiln]

That for sure🤣

So, basically this is indicator of money spend?

for 15 gold frags?

🤣

[vale yoke]

I waited for a match for 45 seconds and gave up. Wanted to be a monster. Oh well, guess it's another event I'll ignore in this game. Thanks, FunPlus

[sly fossil]

kill 5 infected gives you better rewards way faster.

[vale yoke]

Sorry but an event they want people to test should actually be able to be tested, and that means matching shouldn't be sitting there ticking away for either side.

[vale yoke]

Too true, my friend. I hadn't even considered that, and I don't have to wait to do it.

[sly fossil]

why add an event if your current events are buggy as hell?

[vale yoke]

Money

They're making Mr Krabs look charitable.

[sly fossil]

in the long term they will lose money because of it, as people leave or don't start to play

seems more like they're eager to pull the plug on this game and therefor add as much crap as they can to milk it to the fullest