📋︱feedback-discussion

[worldly sable]

That’s so cute lol

[tame jackal]

[worldly sable]

I guess their clear strategist didn’t notify them when last day was

[tame jackal]

[misty pewter]

They are just lost on the nexus map, give them some time. It’s a much bigger map than mm 😂

[past locust]

Anyone can help with some info over this?

[dreamy sleet]

My mines that I sent out last night just finished and I received the report. the other two are in the morning. It looks like anyone who refreshed mines right before reset may have had the right of it.

[misty pewter]

We can’t… all mines are lost… all players that bought bundles for mining are scammed again 😂

[faint flint]

And there is no mines you can send to

[dreamy sleet]

But can't send out any new ones 😦

[sick plaza]

I got totally zeroed, had 1 troop left, and ended up in the 80s

[past locust]

There are no mines now, and no report from nexus mines i put 20h ago 😅

[faint flint]

We have to wait for next Nexus

[past locust]

Really? 🤣

[misty pewter]

Stop spending stop spending 😂😂😂

[past locust]

I don’t spend anymore so yeah! Stop spending! It s better

😁

[faint flint]

When the fire is burning down the bank you don’t throw money at it to put it out do you?

[worldly sable]

@near mesa

[faint flint]

Don’t worry. Nexus map opens in about 7 or 8 days. We can mine again 🤨

[digital glacier]

You clearly didn't hear about the USA bank bailouts 😆

🥰🥰🥰 In sos is my birthday 🥰🥰🥰 they gave me a great birthday present. Nexus ended 🥰🥰🥰

[pallid willow]

Of course it will be lol do they ever fix anything? How many years have been the same bugs existed in the same events😂

[faint flint]

When they do fix all the bugs they decide to retire the event

[forest kiln]

So, we cant enter Nexus, and no crystal mines on state map.🤦‍♂️

[unkempt sphinx]

Same. Sigh

[misty pewter]

It’s the latest feature… selling you useless bundles 😂 rusty frags bundles next 😉

[worn pewter]

No, the level 7 badge is there but no badge for the nexus building

You could have feinted fighting for it, zeroed everyone while they 6 marched the nexus and won off merit scores

[digital glacier]

🤦🤦🤦 It was once there. Ffs. They removed 7 badges

[worn pewter]

Did they? I didn’t even notice it

[digital glacier]

Did you even bother to look at the comment I replied to when I tagged you 🤦

[worn pewter]

I’m trying to catch up honestly

Worked 19 hours today, hint for anyone in my state if you want to zero me you got 6 weeks of me working 19 hours every single day, better swing hard though

I see your message now @digital glacier 😂

[mint sphinx]

I just hid my migo building and went back to playing like I used to. No stress now....LOL

[worn pewter]

Is still in event tab and you will be stress free until you fall significantly behind my friend

[digital glacier]

I don't have a picture showing the details of the bottom row 3rd icon. but I'm almost 99% certain that was the icon that had occupy nexus as the description.

As you can see ^ is current badges.

7 less badges.

[mint sphinx]

I still do my dailies and the events that I always have. At reset unclaimed rewards go to the my reward stash and mail so I will get the items anyways just dont have to keep looking at it...LOL

[digital glacier]

Also. The 1st picture I shared still has not been credited what was done prior to accumulation of scored because it was bugged.
I should have that first picture badge completed.

[mint sphinx]

This is why I hid mine.. The bugs locked me completely out of Nexus until Yesterday when they finally fixed it.

The only experience I got was here following everyone else's journey

[vale yoke]

Same

[digital glacier]

The first picture has nothing to do with nexus 🤷

[vale yoke]

Tbh two of my accounts lost their login streaks because there was no real reason to log into anything other than my main.

Oops

[mint sphinx]

I could not get mines since they were in Nexus and I could not enter.

[vale yoke]

Had to rely on what was sent through comp

[digital glacier]

Omg. What...... Im not even talking about mining 😂

[worn pewter]

FYI, your mines that were going before nexus closed are still going

I just got rewards from one

Ran the full 24 hours

[digital glacier]

Uh uh.
Nexus is running. So mines are still there. But we have no way to access mines.

[worn pewter]

lol, you know what I mean

[digital glacier]

I was agreeing with yous 🥰

Called it hour ago.... How can I tell... Ummm... Im pretty good at knowing sos 😆

That's how much I care about this season 😆

[mint sphinx]

How do you collect concrete from processing if you can not mine lime to process?

[digital glacier]

Coal was counting since day 1.
But concrete was not counting for like 3 days.

Also. Im very smart at things 😆

[coarse verge]

It was , I think I have screenshot , I will find it

[digital glacier]

Go to bugs channel and look my screenshots.
BTW, i buy $0 of concrete or lime or coal or vouchers, etc etc

[misty pewter]

Haha where can we report F+ for scamming us? 😂

[digital glacier]

BBB 🤷

[tame jackal]

They slowly changing everything to this new horrible graphic without saying anything

[pallid willow]

It was expected to be

Sadly

[stable anvil]

This is stupid, so nexus is over which means mines are closed, yet those who gathered cant see anything being gathered nor the time used to gathered came back in the form of a mail. Wtf

So we couldn't know to recall before and reap what we have been Mining

[pallid willow]

Wtf is constant expression in devs head as well i bet

[stable anvil]

This week was a waste of time with nexus

[pallid willow]

Anyone got a nexus map ss that can share with me pls? 🙈

[tame jackal]

I ain't got nothing on this ****

[mint sphinx]

There are several posted in https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/925537726223237180

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[regal perch]

Nexus has ended. How can we mine now if there's none in the regular wilderness map? What's the purpose of having lv7 and lv9 mines unlocked using our migo points if we can't mine? This is ridiculous 🙄

[misty pewter]

It’s a scam 😂

[pallid willow]

Found one there, ty🤗

[mint sphinx]

You are welcome

[mint sphinx]

I saw a message earlier that said they will appear back in the wild but still waiting

[next marten]

Nexus told us. That we would be wasting our money if we bought the weekly pass.

No one will ever buy it again. Thanks to Nexus, I won't have to waste any more money for this event.

[pallid willow]

I consider devs sleep way too many hours monthly

[digital glacier]

Devs get to sleep extra because mods sleep less 😆

[regal perch]

Oh yeah that too, almost forgot. The number one reason I get weekly pass is because of the mining. Now there's no mining. There's no way I can trust to buy anything anymore. Just return the money.

[near mesa]

Clear strategist

[worldly sable]

Yes don’t talk to her

[near mesa]

🚬🐮

[jovial vigil]

Why do we have to keep begging for mines???

[stable cosmos]

Devs are sadists, enjoy making us beg

[worldly sable]

Smoking is bad for old cows, but her choice

[jovial vigil]

And I want my 3k coal back

[remote bane]

Are the fish from nexus rewards suppose to count towards the stage 1 badge fish goal?

[jovial vigil]

It seems they always forget how sensitive mining is because people pay to have mining bonuses for 7 days

[vague shoal]

Apparently they don’t

[pallid willow]

It should, it’s complete nonsense

So we are free finally but not really cause now we gotta watch when mines suddenly appear to catch a spot 🙄

[misty pewter]

Makes the devs feel like god 😂

[tame jackal]

I'm sure that several dev's are on this discord and their time is to laugh at people who spend money and fill their pockets

[viscid hollow]

Stuff is even more out of reach with this new event setup

[viscid ore]

But with Nexus closed, should we design the mines ourselves?

[stable cosmos]

Given about an hour i could probably redesign the whole game to be more fun

[jovial vigil]

This isn't what they are going for

[unreal lichen]

This week has been discouraging and confusing for you and for us. We too can only hope that it will not be the same in the future.

[pallid willow]

I love the endless bright hope we got despite everytime tho🥹

[plain dragon]

i just received mail for crystals from my gathering mines (2/6) that would have completed around this time. 4 more mines should still be gathering in nexus technically. You guys wana check if you got them too (if your mines finished gathering 24hrs) ?

[pallid willow]

Ohh then mine wont finish til later :c

[tiny quiver]

But did you get your nexus points for those mines ?

[plain dragon]

but i'm NOT forgiving Devs still .. paid for bundle and now mine gathering marches sitting idle .. with insane amount of coal to upgrade too .. thye NEVER thought this event through ..

[plain dragon]

no .. points still remained the same ..

[tiny quiver]

Figured why would they give what was earned

Next we will expect to get what we paid for

[plain dragon]

they dont even give you what you paide for .. 🤦‍♂️

[jovial vigil]

There's 0 accountability, hence this kind of fiascos will reoccur

[unreal lichen]

I feel exactly the same way. I wish I had at least had an explanation each time.

[tiny quiver]

They need to comp everyone the points missing from nexus so many bugs and issues no way to make up the list for a majority of players…

[shut talon]

Please do, I'll love double rewards. Can finally get a decent migo skin then 😏

[tiny quiver]

Only a few were able to move about freely or was that intentional

[shut talon]

Almost everyone was able to move freely for our grouping

[warped ruin]

I'm just saying, f2p can't finish simple basic events anymore

[shut talon]

I haven't bought anything and I've almost finished the first one

[unreal lichen]

If you don't mind, could you please submit a Feedback-report on the matter you mentioned? If you don't mind, I can help you enter it on my behalf.

[shut talon]

3 levels remaining and we have 1 more week

Just need to grind like crazy

[warped ruin]

2 tasks left

[shut talon]

9 days remaining 🤔

[warped ruin]

no more tasks

its 4/4 9days left

[shut talon]

900 points = 9 levels

Tasks refresh in a few days as well

Ooooh maybe not, you right

This one should be possible though, I've got 1 maybe 2 weeks left and I've almost got it.
I am not a F2P though, so it definitely would be harder for F2P

[warped ruin]

nope this is the last day 😉

[shut talon]

Got 1 more week

[warped ruin]

hmm..

[shut talon]

Ooooh maybe not

My store "refreshes" in 17 hours

[warped ruin]

this is what i say.. its a full scam 😄

[shut talon]

Well I'll be damned I'll fall short by like 1k-2k points as I'll get 17k from RR 😅

I have completion tokens but can't use them on SOTF challenges just yet

[unreal lichen]

I am in the same situation, but I still have 9 levels to go.

[wide wraith]

the store refreshes in 3 stages, once a month

[shut talon]

This is lame 😅

[shut talon]

Meaning the first stage ends in less than a day

[wide wraith]

yeah then tomorrow the next stage opens

[unreal lichen]

If no more tasks come in and we can't reach lv.60, that's a problem.

[warped ruin]

you can buy lvl 😉 😄

[shut talon]

Yes so unless you reach stupid high on SVS you cant max the migo thing

[wide wraith]

it ends on July 14th

[warped ruin]

so it also went behind a paywall

[shut talon]

I used completion token on RR to see how far I'd fall short by and this is the result.

[unreal lichen]

I believe I should be able to reach Lv.60 without having to purchase it, what do you think?

[wide wraith]

that doesnt reset only the store adds another level

[shut talon]

It's literally named "First stage" 😅

Meaning the first 4 weeks of the event.

[wide wraith]

yeah that only applies to the store

[shut talon]

We shall see, I really am doing good this migo. Right on track to get the best possible skin this season and that would definitely help.

[azure sundial]

Thanks for new daily tasks now its time for new daily rewards, throw some monkey or formations crates in there, more than just 10 plasma and some stuff that noone needs

[shut talon]

Don't know about you, but I definitely do need the plasma 😅

[azure sundial]

Just burn settlements in nexus, you‘ll get glory there

[shut talon]

Every little bit helps, especially when they continue to drop new plasma related content

[shut talon]

Can't get in Nexus

[lunar kelp]

How are we supposed to mine today?🤔

[azure sundial]

There is more than just 1 nexus

[shut talon]

And also "Just burn" settlements. This sounds like a RL mindset 😂

Us noobs cannot "Just burn" settlements

[unreal lichen]

I will try to submit a Feedback-report from me regarding the concern about not being able to reach Lv.60 without purchasing.

[wide wraith]

probably will find out something will change tomorrow if things go as per usual

[azure sundial]

You were supposed to mine yesterday before reset so mines will be active for 24h and then next reset they will prolly be in state again

[shut talon]

Lets hope so

With the amount of coal needed, we can't afford to be missing a week of mining.

[azure sundial]

Yh mines in nexus will mine the complete 24h even if the map is closed

[lunar kelp]

Of course how silly of me

[azure sundial]

Yes i assume if that would be the case we‘ll get fixes and compensation

[azure sundial]

I just realized today either lol, just a heads up for next nexus

[shut talon]

Good good, I reset mine last night so I'll only be missing 8 hours of mining instead of 176 hours

[lunar kelp]

Will there be nexus next week anyway? Given it's cc/svs week?

[shut talon]

Nope

Seems to be rolling every 2 weeks

[azure sundial]

Yeah i think we‘ll get the event screen again loke we had in SvS week but it will open after CC

[wide wraith]

even the Devs cant be that stupid to have the top 5 alliances out of CC

[azure sundial]

So lets hope for mines in state next week

[shut talon]

Hmm? What do you mean?

[lunar kelp]

I really hope so

[azure sundial]

I mean 1h of CC doesnt matter, only SvS does

[shut talon]

It used to in my old state

[wide wraith]

depends on the timing, which the Devs have never understood

[shut talon]

We won CC with 30 seconds more than the second placed team numerous times 😅

[shut talon]

Devs are stupid, but like I said it's every two weeks

We didn't have nexus last week

So it'll be nothing this week, Nexus next week

Matching probably starting next Sunday

[wide wraith]

well it shouldnt be next week but as we know the Devs couldnt run a bath so who knows

[shut talon]

Very true, however I trust that they'll do it that way

CC/SVS - Week 1
Nexus - Week 2

Rinse and repeat until end of migo season

[wide wraith]

yeah that would be the common sense approach but we are talking about the Devs here

[shut talon]

The devs aren't the ones pulling the strings, the ceo, upper management and investors would be.

[unreal lichen]

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[shut talon]

Devs typically don't have control over such things.

[wide wraith]

well whoever it is

[shut talon]

I've upvoted it but I don't really care, rewards are minimum anyway

[warped ruin]

it's about the principle, not about those 3 crystals 😄

[shut talon]

Which is why I've upvoted it 😂

[unreal lichen]

I think this should also be the case for new events that will appear in the future. We have reported the Feedback in the hope that this content will be a lesson learned.

[shut talon]

Oh of course, don't get me wrong. I'll be upvote it either way because f*** the devs

That should be an Alliance name 🤔😂

[unreal lichen]

We want to continue to speak out and make a loud and eloquent statement that our players are greatly detracting from the gaming experience. And we believe that developers and operators should be sincere in their dealings with players.

[shut talon]

Agreed

[wide wraith]

its funny how the challenges have been forgotten for the slice station for example 3 levels for completing the Explorer 20 times, 3 levels for defeating 100 fiends, etc

[stable cosmos]

Devs is kind of a catch all for the whole fleet of people responsible. The actual devs are spineless, their team lead is more spineless, the PM is a bootlicker and everyone above him is immoral and unethical, and greedy

[pallid willow]

Bootlicker gonna be my favorite word of the month 😂

[unreal lichen]

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[opaque plinth]

MOD

Is this a Bot replying on CS tickets?

Been getting this with no other comments on their stupid bugs

[knotty storm]

CS is bot central... 🙈🙈🙈🙈

[pallid willow]

You still gonna get the rr points tho no?

[shut talon]

No ma'am, I used completion tokens to see how much I'd fall short by

[pallid willow]

Maybe they will send some compensation after all that includes a bit of fish? 🥲

[shut talon]

Lets just hope I've got another week and it was a waste of completion tokens

Tbh I'm pretty sure we've got 1 more week

[opaque plinth]

that's a 2nd week

[shut talon]

Pretty sure this will be the last week of migo stage 1.

[opaque plinth]

today is last day for migo stage 1

[knotty storm]

Tomorrow stage 2 of migo starts

[pallid willow]

I think it ends this week cause the nexus glory seems to be the final glory we always get at the end of each migo stage but since now theres not migo ranking we got that one

[shut talon]

Hmm we will see

[opaque plinth]

If we got another week almost all of us will get those 120 glories

[shut talon]

But if that's the case, the only way I could have broken that 500m points is if I got a better ranking in SVS and I didn't push in SVS due to the fact that I wanted my alliance members to get a better ranking 😅

[shut talon]

Isn't that what we want? 😂

[opaque plinth]

Devs are too kind to do that

[unreal lichen]

I find it very rude that the management and developers have not yet commented on your suggestion. I will prepare a report so as not to waste the valuable report of our players. Please wait for a while.

[shut talon]

You can't mean this 😅😂

[opaque plinth]

Yes Sir

[opaque plinth]

Upvoted Thank you MOD

[unreal lichen]

Thank you for your prompt response. I appreciate your valuable feedback.

[cosmic tulip]

This pass should be paused. Can no longer access nexus, there is no mines on the normal map. We didn't even get any rewards from the mines we were mining when nexus finished.

[stable anvil]

You chose the one that just collects bugs reports, this one sends an automated msg and closes the report.you need to chose another tab thats not report bug

I always go to events, type the event name and submit a report that way.

[stable anvil]

Should ask for a refund

[opaque plinth]

oke I'll check I didn't know about that

Thank you

[unreal lichen]

It is indeed a problem that Nexus has been terminated and all the rewards are not received. I will prepare a report as well, so please be patient.

[cosmic tulip]

Thank you

[stable anvil]

Yeah all my reports are under GAME FEATURE ISSUE, OR Event/ gameplay error. Chose number 3 or 10 avoid 7

[cosmic tulip]

It would take them to long to even consider it. Sadly fp are not know for speed when it regarding giving back money.

[stable anvil]

They are quick to raid the wallet but never to loosen the hands even their compensation shows it.last time they gave 50k diamonds by accident and instantly put an error code on it so it cant be used

[cosmic tulip]

I remember that, claimed it was destined for the PTR server and not live. Shame they can't do that with the bugs 🤣

[stable anvil]

So yes it is possible for them to give us anything as compensation but they so damn greedy that im wondering when they will be banned completely from the gaming platform

[stable cosmos]

Bug report option is always immediately closed. I did mine last night via the break menu option which means someone has to read it, even if they then immediately close it i have successfully used a humans time and f---plus will have to pay for that

[unreal lichen]

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[cosmic tulip]

Thank you

[unreal lichen]

You are welcome😊

[lucid yew]

Doing everything else+using only completion tokens for sotf ranks, getting rank 50-100 in warfare stage and prep ended up somewhere at 495-497k. I bet that completion tokens would have been enough, i was wrong 🤧. This new migo system is pretty stupid imo, you have no idea how much will you need to push

[shut talon]

I have an idea

I got top 20 for SVS prep and ranked 80 in svs warfare (easing off of points so that my teammates could get some).

[lucid yew]

Did you do sotf?

[shut talon]

I cannot remember

If I did, I didn't push as I was saving for SVS instead

So that could have been where it hurt me

[lucid yew]

It would make sense if you used only completion tokens, our point difference suggest you got a bit more from prep

The top 20

[unreal lichen]

Am I correct in understanding that the system should be changed to one that allows for a high enough ranking without the complete tokens?

[glad topaz]

On another subject…..now Nexus is finally over, how do we mine?

[pallid willow]

Yea svs definitely the reason, one more milestone away

Of the tasks

[lucid yew]

Nah, just shared my experience. The completion tokens wasn't enough to get it, you will need more than that. Of course i understand that you need to push events for more glory, but it came as a surprise how much, as there was no way to tell how much fish we can get

[unreal lichen]

I understand.
Thanks for sharing your experience.

[unreal lichen]

Is it no longer possible to mine on State Map?

[glad topaz]

Nope no lime/crystal or coal mines

[jovial vigil]

A mode that isn't playing 😗

[winter canyon]

You have RR today which gives 15K points

Unless you won't participate

[lucid yew]

480k now, rr +15k

[winter canyon]

Nexus?

[unreal lichen]

I will check with my colleague mod who is more knowledgeable on this matter. Could you please give me a few moments of your time?

[winter canyon]

You should be getting like 30K fish there

[lucid yew]

After reset?

[winter canyon]

Probably

After settlement stage

I hope it counts... cause I ranked top 150 in prep, 100 warfare or something😂

With Nexus rewards I will be at 500K

[lucid yew]

Oh, that will be easily enough then, i got rank 12 in nexus and we won

[glad topaz]

Yes no probs

[jagged wigeon]

What happened to the mining I was doing in Nexus? Pouf, gone 😳

[lucid yew]

Oh actually they already were in reward stash so nope

[winter canyon]

RIP😿

[jovial vigil]

I would like to bring it to your attention that the developers of the app "state of survival" is continuously conducting fraudulent behaviour. In game purchases includes a boost to a key game mechanism for 7 days, but unfortunately, time and time again the developers take down said mechanism for long periods of time while inadequately compensating the people who purchased said boost. In addition the boost is still on sale while the mechanism is down. I would appreciate your input on the matter given your company is the mediator and the main funding channel for said fraud

[hidden stream]

Unfortunately, only points earned for completing Migo tasks are taken into account here (as in the rating last season), additional fish obtained in Nexus, Treasure Quest or Hidden stories should not be taken into account (this is more for the store)

[winter canyon]

Guess the getting fish in stage point might only be possible if saving tokens and then skipping all the rank 5, 10, 20, 50 cross-state sotf etc.

But we don't even get enough tokens for all these... unless you buy packs

[jovial vigil]

Send it to the complaint of google/apple store. Maybe if they get inquiries from them they will start working on stuff

[lucid yew]

As i said, tokens wasn't enough

[winter canyon]

Might need like 15 tokens if you want to skip the tasks like rank 20, 10, 5 in state and 100, 50, 20, 10 cross state

We get 5 per season🙈

[lucid yew]

You need to do tokens+ a few rankings that aren't unlockable with tokens

[unreal lichen]

It seems that the number of resident fellow mods is low today, so it may take some time for us to respond to you. If you don't mind, may I let you know via DM as soon as I know?

[jagged wigeon]

You’ll need to do much more than the minimum rankings to get max Migo points in the stages. I got top 10 SvS prep and top 50 warfare to achieve enough for 500k stage points. This has always been the way to rank in Migo to be fair

[dense lava]

Todays points are from RR.. and intel, fiend, treasure..

[glad topaz]

Yes that’s fine

[winter canyon]

This isn't doable without paying or saving for 3 months

[unreal lichen]

Thank you for your understanding.

[jagged wigeon]

Again, no change to regular Migo

[winter canyon]

Maybe 500k stage point possible in 1 of 3 stages, but is that enough for 8K seasonal points?

[pallid willow]

I did less than that and got it

[jovial vigil]

Can someone please explain to me what's wrong with reporting a new issue?

[winter canyon]

We all know that the research progress 100/100 is impossible

[dense lava]

Im concerned about mining. What was the point putting rich lvl mines in Nexus map, to Nexus building if those are available only few hours after building is taken??? Map is closed for the next week, no mines on main map

We fought for days to win mine rich territory for what?

[winter canyon]

I think Nexus rewards should count towards the stage point badges

[jovial vigil]

It is, just need to put cash

[winter canyon]

If too late to fix this time, maybe just autocomplete this badge for everyone above 400K fish points... I don't mind honestly

[winter canyon]

I'm F2P. So are many others. And some spenders aren't buying those packs either... so what is the point lmao

[jagged wigeon]

I don’t agree. If you’re F2P then you should probably save your materials to rank high in stage 3

[jovial vigil]

Same way you cannot max other things without paying, this is the game

[winter canyon]

Ranking high once will be enough for 8K points? It doesn't look very promising right now. 26/52 only 3K out of 8K points

The tasks that give most points are impossible

[jovial vigil]

F2p cannot be ranked high enough in svs with only 3 months of savings

[winter canyon]

No one wants to max

[jagged wigeon]

Anyway, I was here to find out what happened to the mining 😂

[winter canyon]

I only need to 8k badge points... I don't care about the temporary bonuses

[stable anvil]

For f2p they are better to focus on training speedups, at most for plasma upgrade and other things you will get 30 mil maybe, but tons of training you can reach 50 mil plus if you saved the speedups

[jovial vigil]

This is their decision, I have seen people maxing it in less than 3 weeks

[jagged wigeon]

Looks like not much joy on mines at all 😂

[dense lava]

#📋︱feedback-discussion message

[jovial vigil]

50m points will hardly give you top 20 in svs

[winter canyon]

The biggest spenders do that in no time. They need those bonuses to compete for top ranks in every event

[stable anvil]

Thats the minimum

Either you are a fish or you are a whale, cant blame devs if someone chose to go al out while others decided to do the minimum

[dense lava]

I usualy save for 2 3 months then empty bag. Was rank 2 cross state last svs prep

[stable anvil]

I got my 500k by being rank 205 in sotf ranking top 50 to 100 in svs prep and rank 2 in warstage

[winter canyon]

Top 10 or even top 5 might be possible after saving for months. No F2P going for top 1, that is impossible.

[jovial vigil]

This is highly variable between states, our last svs 2nd place ended with almost 250m points, top 5 all above 150, top 20 above 110

[stable anvil]

If uou want to push then push, but what im hearing from all of you is that devs should bring the old ranking system so a whole range of people can get migo points. Instead of get 120 migo points for reaching the mileage

If thats the case then push that report

[winter canyon]

I'm usually at 5M points🙈

[lucid yew]

I agree on this, at least then you can follow the real time ranking. This system is all about guessing

[dense lava]

By my cslculations, to rank high in svs prep, u need approximately: 2-3k red crystals, 5k treasure caps, 6-7k hour speeds, 14k plasma, 1.5k poly

[amber linden]

Hm honestly was never so easy to get glory but I am maybe in the minority

[dense lava]

And about 4b rss

[winter canyon]

We need Alliance Duel back

[viscid ore]

Lol

they only allowed access to the lv9 mines for a few hours!!

[jovial vigil]

In general, any feedback about the "FTP experience" is futile. You're not the target audience for this game

[winter canyon]

Without F2P, no one joining rally leaders' rallies. Are you seriously expecting whales to fight 1v1 in SvS?

Many are playing because of friends too... if all the non-whale friends left are the whales still going to play the game alone?

[jovial vigil]

FTPs in my alliance are asked to avoid joining rallies because their behemoth is too weak

[wise yoke]

Does anyone know if Nexus Struggle should give points for the ‘a new beginning’ seasonal badge, please?

[jovial vigil]

Currently it doesn't

[wise yoke]

Should it?

[winter canyon]

Not the excuse to exclude and bully your friends for not wanting to spend money on the game

[unreal lichen]

You can complete by Migo task

[jovial vigil]

Not bully my friends, we are asking nicely, because winning help the alliance more

[winter canyon]

You can fit 8 behemoths + 12 others without behemoth if everyone joins with 100K troops or something... needs some work because you need to send people back and having them rejoin, but it can be done

[wise yoke]

If peeps join rallies without behemoths but 100k in 60/20/20, when they reinf the garrison their behemoths stay

[jovial vigil]

You must send a full march for the behemoth to apply.
When the other team has 8 120m+ behemoths, you need that too

[wise yoke]

As a low spender, I focus on my behemoths as that helps the rally the most atm

[jagged wigeon]

This can’t be done 😂

You’re under the impression SoS is a F2P friendly game. Newsflash. It isn’t

[wise yoke]

It can. But it involved peeps joining rally, being kicked, leader switching talents, rejoining, switch back to war talents, f2p joins (small march), repeat

[winter canyon]

1. Have every player join with 100K troops without behemoth until the rally is full
2. Send the strongest joiner back, have him resend 100K troops to fill the rally with behemoth
3. Send the second strongest joiner back, have him resend 100K troops to fill the rally with behemoth
4. Repeat with joiner number 3-8

[jovial vigil]

Awesome, now please tell me how to do that in a 1 minute rally

[wise yoke]

That works too

[jagged wigeon]

No chance in a busy SvS will that ever happen. You can send garrison though for points

[wise yoke]

Works for 5 min

Just

[jovial vigil]

We don't do 5 minutes anymore

[wise yoke]

We do for the cap

The rest, I agree

[jovial vigil]

Better solution is for people to join with 1 troop and aircraft

[winter canyon]

Then you can allow them to reinforce the building after rally hits

[jovial vigil]

They can always reinforce, my argument was that in general, FTPs aren't important for FP

[winter canyon]

Behemoth is also not everything. If you have T10s in your rally you're screwed lmao

[wise yoke]

I had been expecting points from nexus to contribute to the badge, and I don’t know if it’s a bug or intended that they don’t count

[tiny quiver]

They didn’t send points

[winter canyon]

I have purple behemoths and I often beat gold behemoth players

[jovial vigil]

If you're 3 years into the game and not full t12 something is very wrong with you, even as ftp

[winter canyon]

I have full T12s thanks to effortless progress

[wise yoke]

Thanks! Im a p10

I’m nearly full p10 with research

Then I will go to p11

[jovial vigil]

This is probably the wrong decision for FTP, p10 research is for rally leaders

[amber linden]

T12 troops easy to achieve even my farms farm could unlock if t11 would be done 😂

[winter canyon]

Honestly P13 is more important. It gives 20% extra base stats for all your troops

[wise yoke]

I probably agree with you, but I do have decent behemoths, and I like it when P13s complain they can’t burn me 🙃

[jovial vigil]

T11 is also super easy with light plasma and effortless

[unreal lichen]

Well only soft , svs , daily task , rr koh and all task which you done in stage 1 counts

[winter canyon]

They can if they send enough hits

[unreal lichen]

Completion fish token which we get from them

[knotty sierra]

So I assume we can’t mine now for 3-4 days since nexus is closed? What a joke. They increase the resources needed to level up the buildings, but reduce both the amount you get from mins and also the time you can actually mine

[winter canyon]

The gap is too crazy atm

[wise yoke]

It will be lots, the last one who actually wrote to me to complain during SvS was killing just over 2k of my troops per hit

[jovial vigil]

So an FTP p13 hit you...

[dense lava]

Joining rally is placehokder strategy. 6 join with max march with monkey, 2 send only 50k troops. When full, 1st 50k sent back, rejoins with full march +monkey, when in 2nd 50k sent back does the same

[winter canyon]

2K per hit? You sure that was a P13?

[dense lava]

It will fit at least 8 active behemots

[wise yoke]

No, they were a spender, that’s what annoyed them.

[jovial vigil]

It's ok, our RLs have 2m+ cap, we fit them perfectly

[pallid willow]

There’s plenty of paper p13 these days due to the effortless progress lol

Even my alt p12 thanks to that 🤣🤣

[jovial vigil]

When I hit Vega I did more dmg

[dense lava]

U can fit 10 or 11 then

[wise yoke]

Nice!!!

[unreal lichen]

Yes need to meet some good people in svs then 🤣🤣🤣

[jovial vigil]

No need, 8/9 joiners are enough

[unreal lichen]

You'll get burn when 700+ morale will attack

[jovial vigil]

Wounding 2.5k isn't very much...

[unreal lichen]

No one is invincible

[winter canyon]

Doesn't take many hits against Angelica + Selina

[wise yoke]

I know!!! I check my neighbours in SvS when I can and move if anything over 350 moves close

[winter canyon]

No chance surviving even 10 hits

[jovial vigil]

And this fellow ain't even that high

[winter canyon]

Above 500-700 moral it's mostly the setup that makes the difference. I've seen 400 moral players beat 700

[wise yoke]

But I think his target didn’t have best heroes on wall and only had 6m troops to start with, which is a big disadvantage.
I can’t see monkey, aircraft or vehicles in the ss, but probably not that good

[winter canyon]

The heavy hitters are just so much stronger than a player with, let's say, 100-200 moral

[crystal iron]

[winter canyon]

Yeah, because left side is F2P

Troops can't really keep you safe from being farmed

[crystal iron]

@pallid willow 👁️👁️

[wise yoke]

But what I’m really wanting to say, if you put decent heroes on your wall, have decent behemoths, work on everything that helps in defence, and have reasonable troop numbers, you can survive attacks and if rallied, you have a bit of time to port away.

[tame jackal]

I agree, in the last MIGO I always got 500 glory in the last stage

[jovial vigil]

Yes definitely, 800+ morale players with the right setup will burn anyone

[wise yoke]

Hey hard!

[winter canyon]

I can take a few, but last time Becca popped up and ruined everything

Directing me to the enlistment and then the game crashed. When I could reenter I was already on fire

[crystal iron]

Hello

[winter canyon]

Hi Hardy

[crystal iron]

[winter canyon]

Isn't max 700?

[jovial vigil]

No, it was raised

[winter canyon]

Be nice😂

[crystal iron]

[winter canyon]

[wise yoke]

I thought you were always nice?

[tame jackal]

[jovial vigil]

In the report it shows 700, but some actually have a lot more. I got hit by a 950 last svs, it's all about formation

[crystal iron]

i can be "nice", but it is impossible to remain so)), i cannot say what im is always nice person, i just trying be nice

[crystal iron]

Dont cry, i just kidding at you :p

[winter canyon]

[crystal iron]

[crystal iron]

And i rarely see you :p

[winter canyon]

When you see collector 80-90 attacking you, just escape asap😅

[jovial vigil]

There's a big diff between 80 to 90... Anyway it's not possible when you're in a fight and need to keep your march in a rally/building

Also that is another reason why FTP can be relied on too heavily.

[winter canyon]

What bonuses do collector 85 and 90 give?

[jovial vigil]

No idea but it's not the bonuses, it's what's behind them. People who have higher level skill statues, better stats, completely maxed heros, etc

[winter canyon]

Statues aren't that powerful. You can check the "other" section in a battle report

[wise yoke]

Why? If F2P you shouldn’t be joining with best march

[pseudo mist]

Info about the Nexus Mines
While you can no longer see them, formerly sent marches are still farming.

A march with farmed goods has just returned to a co-mod and a player also confirmed this.

This means that at least previously sent out collectors still exist and you can still get your crystals from the last miners.

• Add: For some players this is not true. If you got no crystals after your miners should have returned (24hrs), please file a bug report.

[jovial vigil]

FTPs get burned or over 1m wounded with their best march on the wall

[wise yoke]

And if needed, stronger players can reinf with a march which should help player survive one or 2!hits

[jovial vigil]

Not enough... Also players need their marches to defend and reinforce

RL can't have his marches out when he needs to adjust formations constantly

[wise yoke]

From what I’m hearing I think a couple of alliances / states have decided they don’t want f2f in their rallies, and they don’t want to help / guide f2p so those who are active can contribute in a meaningful sort of way.

That’s fine if you are one of the top alliances, where p2w peeps will gravitate to, but probably not fine for everyone else

[winter canyon]

A F2P in good alliance can be stronger than weaker spenders who bought the wrong stuff

I've seen SVIP whales in the lvl 30s collector. I didn't even know that was possible lmao

He was probably trying to hide his strength... idk if that's a good strategy😅

[jovial vigil]

I'm not FTP, this is how much dmg a correct march made. Do you still think FTPs have any chance?

[winter canyon]

You met VEGA😅

[winter canyon]

How many turns did the battle last, and what heroes were resonated?

[vagrant lance]

So even though the return of mines is nerfed significantly this season, they dont let people mine them either 🤣🤣🤣

[jovial vigil]

Mine was classic CCM, his was the counter

[winter canyon]

Resilience?

And he used Berserk?

[jovial vigil]

There are many players that have similar or slightly lower power but they can still do that much dmg. FTPs cannot come close to survive that

[jovial vigil]

Yep

[winter canyon]

How many turns did the battle last?

For settlement hits if you don't have the right heroes to kill the enemy march in 15-20 turns, you're screwed

It can be the difference between taking 400K wounded and instant burn

[loud condor]

What 8k point?

[winter canyon]

For settlement defense use Robbie, Maddie/Eduardo, Carlos. Very high damage output, and immunity to disarm

[jovial vigil]

He had 2 attacks with different setups within 10 secs

[loud condor]

Usually when i hit a settlement, they get generous points from me too.

[jovial vigil]

You cannot change wall heros fast enough

[loud condor]

I'm very fair

[stable cosmos]

Very used to any march sent being sped up. You normally have 2 seconds to react.

[winter canyon]

Can you show this page?

[loud condor]

2s, can't even tap and port

[stable cosmos]

Nobody launches a march and lets it take 20 seconds.

[jovial vigil]

Nope

I don't have the report itself

[winter canyon]

How much damage did the other report do?

The other setup

[jovial vigil]

Between 100k to 150k wounded

[winter canyon]

That's why you can't use full Resilience setup

Because if enemy uses Eduardo + Marcos you have no heal at all

[jovial vigil]

Again, I'm not FTP, not close to FTP, and if I may say, on the very high end of power to my spending level. But still got it hard

[winter canyon]

See? You basically got countered. You need to find a setup you can have at all times

[jovial vigil]

All three heros have healing

[jovial vigil]

All setups can be countered

[winter canyon]

That's why you lost that many troops

Resilience doesn't have very high damage output on its own

Probably lasted 30-40 turns instead of < 20

[jovial vigil]

I'll make it short, super max hits you with 3 super speed marches. 2 will fall short, one will counter

Can't use burn cause of anti burn then even high dmg setups suddenly becames a 2 edged sword

My point is simple, FTPs cannot play when they have maxed players sending super speed marches. They will burn

[stable cosmos]

Thats been a problem pretty much ever since limitless started

[winter canyon]

I take 500K wounded from maxed Angelica + Selina

[jovial vigil]

Angelica and Selina aren't very informative, it's what attached to them

Also, how many hits before that burns you? 5? 6?

[stable cosmos]

Now its maxed angelica selina and splinter

[winter canyon]

Between 5 and 10

[winter canyon]

You can't use Angelica and Splinter in the same march

Both are infantry

[loud condor]

You forget something, game has a fixed death/wounded ratio. The more troops you have the more loses you get. Until there's none

[stable cosmos]

Pretty sure the mr ridiculous we had in nexus had all 3 but i may be imagining things

[winter canyon]

It is pretty constant until your infantry line breaks... then you get burned

[jovial vigil]

So you think you can sit in svs for 3 hours fight without being forced to relocate or shield?

[winter canyon]

Never did I say that

[loud condor]

So, if gen skip ruined sos has the troops amount of su, you can bet you will have way more than a few hundred thousand loses.

[winter canyon]

I don't really know about the troops... there is some hidden formula that says not all troops even fight
How to know how it works lol

[stable cosmos]

Sometimes you can. It depends on who the other state is. Sometimes they let you play. Other times they think you shouldn't and wipe you out of it

[winter canyon]

Su wouldn't taken much less losses if his setup wasn't countered

[loud condor]

One dude once said, there's not enough space for everyone to fight at once.

Su still has very valid point

[winter canyon]

If that's the case there is absolutely no difference between 3 million and 15 million troops

[loud condor]

No one said that only a fraction join the battle. They just take turns or replenish somehow. Maybe

Don't overthink stuff. Defending is always hard except at the very beginning of the game stage.

[winter canyon]

There is space for whatever square root times minimum (I don't understand the formula) so anything above that does nothing and end themselves when whatever number of troops in the formula are defeated

I don't know if it's accurate

[jovial vigil]

How can you not be countered when you have 3 marches at the same time?

[stable cosmos]

Defending should be easy. My hq has walls. It has a giant gun on the roof. It has many more troops. Apparently what happens is your entire base decides to leave and fight on a f---ing road

[winter canyon]

Have you found a counter for a setup for let's say, Robbie, Maddie, and Carlos?

[loud condor]

Except this game doesn't age and scale wells. Past the tutorial everything is messy. Even tutorials are now messy.

[stable cosmos]

I'm not expecting much realism but all the generals in this game are morons

[winter canyon]

All 3 have very high damage output, boost each others damage as well as no way to disarm them

[jovial vigil]

This setup is just not very strong, so the overall dmg will be higher

[winter canyon]

It's very strong

I farm higher power trucks easily

[jovial vigil]

Easily beaten by Donald, Chris, Lan

[wise yoke]

Chris resonated with who?

[loud condor]

I'll tell you something else, damage is shared for the same type of troops

[jovial vigil]

Christopher

[stable cosmos]

Wish this game had a sandbox mode for heroes monkeys and planes

[loud condor]

So, if you have 10 million infantry, and took 10 million damage from a hero, logically a unit only took 1 damage.
Which is not the case.

Therefore, there's a limitation somewhere

[steel musk]

Marcus

[winter canyon]

Robbie + Berserk rider + Carlos has very high damage output. Even players with 85-90 collectors don't last more than 15-20 turns

Lacks sustain though... so it doesn't take many hits to burn me

But it's not like failing to kill the enemy in 100 turns and burning 1 hit because of that

[winter canyon]

He can be disarmed. If you run that you're gone if you face Control build😅

[steel musk]

I mean vs Robbie / Maddie / Carlos

[tardy night]

Troops don't take part 10 million together. Minimum troops between attack and defence are calculated and then whatever is left over replenishes the losses.

[winter canyon]

I can beat full Berserk setup too

Happens in POW

[tardy night]

So 300k vs 300k results in 1 or 0.05 slightly wounded for the offence. And that portion repeats till the marches of defence die out

[steel musk]

depends on their stats

[winter canyon]

Identical stats

[steel musk]

dont know but think pow is different.
Berserk skills work every 4 rounds or somthing.. and pow is 10 rounds

[winter canyon]

I'm not saying it's the universal setup. Only that it works best for me

It does have a huge weakness when using 60/20/20 because back row dies too easily

But with 3/3/3 ratio for settlement defense that's very effective for me at least

I'm not saying I'm unburnable... far from it lmao

[steel musk]

Carlos have good skills

[winter canyon]

Yes!

[loud condor]

Remind me who is carlos?

[normal peak]

Soo not to interrupt hero talk but we do t get mines anymore?

[steel musk]

hunter gen 15

[loud condor]

Yeah, we won't ever find him. He's not available

Gotta loves the gen skip drama

[steel musk]

think they messed mines again.. 300 bios compensation

[normal peak]

Awesome 🙄

[loud condor]

There's comp? I'm gonna check

[steel musk]

I mean they will send later

[loud condor]

I'll hit 8k coal processing from compensation.

[steel musk]

still not enough lol

[winter canyon]

Not in Ray's place?

[steel musk]

nope

[winter canyon]

My deepest condolences😔

[steel musk]

but wont take him even if he was in Rays

[loud condor]

Nope, and apparently we can recycle gen 13 & 14 capsules.

[winter canyon]

Why not?

[steel musk]

Wafaa better

[loud condor]

A little too old and the need to focus on the better ones

[steel musk]

yup

[winter canyon]

That is true, but she relies on being healed. So Robbie, Maddie, Wafaa will sink like a rock to Christopher, Lan, Donald

Not even Rising Valor (that provides 260% extra DMG, which means 3.6x in total) can save you

[steel musk]

could work with heal

[winter canyon]

That is true. But her frags are too difficult to get right now... will have to wait for next gen so she is added to the custom crate

[winter canyon]

Yes, that is also a viable option

[steel musk]

I have 2 so i am good vs Donald 😂

[winter canyon]

On hunters?

[steel musk]

hunter & raider

[winter canyon]

Nice

I have one on hunter

[steel musk]

nice
on hunter it does more dmg

[winter canyon]

For trucks, I've been switching between Robbie, Maddie/Mia/Eduardo, Carlos. I farm 2-3 vehicle parts daily

[crystal iron]

He is resilience type - Chukon would be more better

[crystal iron]

I will met him soon today xD

[winter canyon]

Good luck!

And be careful

[crystal iron]

I will take a RR talent which increase stats during attack settlement

[winter canyon]

I do that too. I noticed that the island settlement stats don't work during RR

So need the tower buff😅

[crystal iron]

Just Island bonus? Not from statue?

[winter canyon]

Statues work, but the island bonus that gives 150 settlement stats doesn't work in RR

[faint flint]

Mines will be back when next Nexus starts

[tardy night]

1 week of No mining, augurs well to complete research🤣

[warped nymph]

Not being able to mine is amazing… followed by answers from the CS that are beyond everything a player can imagine. Roadmap after roadmap we can read that Devs read our feedback and we „should rest assured“…
Yes we can rest assured that it simple doesn’t matter. PTR stated all the issues… but hey let’s send it life… network is not able to cope 8 alliances correct during mining mayhem? No worries, rest assured we start the next event with 12 alliances.
To make it even fairer the BP differences of those alliances is from 80 b up to 300 b… with only deploying 1 march, guess what: I have a suprise the 300 b alliance won 😱😱😱 how is that possible?
I honestly can’t wait for the next amazing perfectly thought through event from our caring developers, because I am absolutely resting assured that it is taking care for this event so our runs smooth without any issues or even bugs…
Applaus to the megaminds for the perfect ideas! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[tepid rivet]

No arrows here in feedback reporting

[vivid hawk]

then wait no longer! Rookie Challenge Arena inboud soon. based on feedback and the demand for more events....smh

[grim steppe]

[cloud ridge]

Honestly the generous part depends if you got lucky and got citys or not to expand your mines, if just starting zone then those mines are a joke.

They need to triple the amount if higher mines 6+ available in the start zone to be deemed atleast generous

State mine part is fine, as again people are being conned out of time to get mine materials and those who buy weekly pass or not getting what they bought.

[mighty gorge]

A generous number of mines 😂 delusional some. Sure, if you managed to get to Nexus 🙄. I was stuck in level 3s all week and now I can't mine at all, which considering I bought the materials to unlock lvl 9 it's disgusting. This company this week couldn't be anymore disrespectful or insulting than they ever have been.

I'm just waiting for super whales those that won to tell everyone how great it was

[tepid rivet]

Thanks

[tepid rivet]

It is what it is but it's also what we make out of it so I choose wine over violence

[mighty gorge]

I kept away the latter part of this week and between the game itself, the lack of communication from FP, an unplayable game and community managers that don't seem to know what managing a community actually means, I'm pretty much done with it all. I mean they even have the audacity to offer bundles for mines, talk about shoving it in your face.

[tepid rivet]

I understand and fully support your disappointment and you being upset over it. In a perfect world, things should have gone different cause they should have been different from the start. But I think many of us who are regularly here, as well as those who play this game for longer than 3 weeks or don't have the unlimited power of money, know exactly that the only objective for the management is: money. And they get it. Not from peasants like me, but others. And for every 1 who quits spending or quits at all, there are enough others who still pay them their 84th Lambo. It's a dirty company policy, yes, immoral, ignorant, but it is how we know it unfortunately. No matter how hard one tries to submit constructive feedback and make the game enjoyable with suggestions, it simply won't happen cause they don't care. If people spend for broken stuff, why would they try to fix, money flows anyway

[fallow lodge]

yeah people are crazy why would you pay from something thats broken. for example you buy some tech from the shop for over inflated prices you get it home and its fkd....yeah lets just run back to that same shop and buy some more....i basically stopped spending because of this reason. devs arnt that clever because if they actually put a product out that was playable many of the people that stopped spending might actually start up again

[thorny plume]

I keep seeing people using gen 2 on rider. Unless its a exceptional Ascension doesnt it make more sense to use gen 1 with +75(+) lethality and +75 (+) health ? That gives the troops that does the most damage more damage and those that tanks the most more tank ?

[steel musk]

think it depends on which heros the opponent is using.. and the skill you have on it

[thorny plume]

Ive tried both and my gear is all health ish on infantry all marches and similar with hunter, mostly all Leth on both usable marches and i have acquired some rising v iv and Iii and peerless power iii + with high health Leth that i can switch around on rider. Works quite well. Tested all Leth rider with both rejuvenates and peerless and all out assault before I made a decision to stick to gen 1 on rider. Simply better

And its much easier to come by

With good ascensions

I wasnt particularly impressed testing all leth gear on riders. Only drawback is you cant have rejuvenates on gen 1

[steel musk]

gen 1 could be better for inf and hunter also..
If both side using same heros.. If no good skill on gen 2 which work with your heros

[thorny plume]

Hmmm well then your kinda making sacrifices imo

Oh yea, but assume good skills 😂

Because a hunter tripple leth with peerless and some other decent stuff is quite decent.
Ive been a bit unlucky. On infantry ive pulled peerless and fortress IV and i have a rv i can rotate in so Ill get to combined rv IX 😂, while on hunter i got salvation iv and peerless. Should be opposite

But rising valor IV is good anywhere so to speak, atleast theese days when people have their burn and disarm marches walking around

[steel musk]

yes it does good dmg 😂

[thorny plume]

But im in general much weaker then setters in the big alliances, so using infantry to add 350 health and Hunter to add 300+ Leth and then throw in some compansation from riders puts my stats quite up

People been chasing red colors instead of making their gear the right setup with stats and skills

The only thing dumber then a healthy hunter is a lethal infantry

[steel musk]

i need one of them to buy my tempest

well now we could reforge stats also 😂

[thorny plume]

That helps alot

Imagine the pain i went trough to make tripple leth or quad Leth rider gear with orange or red stats

And ive made quite a few and botched more ascensions then I like to admit

Just recently stopped using those damn skill reforges, its too expensive

[steel musk]

reforge skill mostly give same skill or worse 🤣

[thorny plume]

A good month i could burn trough 3000-4000 yellow boxes and a starting point divided on two events. All that to chase the golden goose

[steel musk]

funny thing it says congratz 😂

[thorny plume]

That ends up with Vigilant mind

Lol yes, sometimes it should say fu simply

This is a prime example, now ive listed it for sale. Its still a good piece since it adds 72 percent leth and a little attack but i have better atm

That should be illegal

So if you feeling you need to be a little more lethal or your hunters lack the ooomph, its somewhere in the market 😂
They should give us more reforge chances. I was tempted to hang on to it incase they do that at some point

[thorny plume]

Oeff lol thats a downgrade. Ive recycled so many gears in anger like that 😂

REALLY toxic mechanic. And weve complained alot and several feedbacks is made. Thousands of upvotes. Noone bats a eye. Imagine using around 10 000 yellow boxes. Thats what it took me to get a tripple Leth + att. Only to become vigiland mind, twice. 😂 I think i died a little inside.

At first when we just got it, i nearly quit the game over Tempest arms until a friend told me about the market. Now ive traded my way up to quite decent gear

And that tider piece ive listed i might even delist, im pondering because a couple k coins isnt that much and you never know when you need a little extra leth

[steel musk]

i have bad luck on stats 😂

yes could get good tempest from there

[thorny plume]

Me too, but trading. And i kind of have my own little system where I buy certain things at certain times and buy gear that i Resell at better times because I know the market price is wrong etc.

Market is key, but 9 slots is terrible. At first when your trading small value items its slow revenues. But once you get a little good stock of stuff you can rotate and keep improving + have coins to buy the gear and things you plan on replacing it with the rotation flows.

But the market has many flaws. Like the trade listing before it goes into actual trade. 24 hours is too long.
Same with the limit on slots.
And the price limit. As soon as piece gets 3 red its a hard sell

And you have to keep the sss rating so sometimes if you lazy you need to buy a pack or two 🤐

[steel musk]

sss is when you buy only? right?

[steel musk]

some bet on what others have bet for 😂

[thorny plume]

Its for daily spending limit

[sick plaza]

that does not surprise me and it just tells me that the mods do not want sacastic feedback and are siding with the devs.

[sick plaza]

Cerb I read it as he was being sarcastic

[tepid rivet]

Arrows are added, bot is potatoing sometimes

[vale yoke]

Yet still less of a potato than the devs

[storm iron]

I have a life, no time for fiddling around in a "market" place for overpriced gear.

[steel musk]

i would like if they add AI for more events..

events with bad matchmaking it doesn't matter if you played or not.. AI could do the event for you..

[vale yoke]

It's been almost five years of this type of thing, slowly increasing in frequency and decreasing in subtlety.
It started small, and at the time, players could just roll with it. We would send a report in game, get some comp, and the world moved on. No big deal because we could still play.
Here we are almost five years since release and we have events we can't play, bugs which make it so even logging in is a part time job, devs who don't even listen to the simplest of things, a company who has taken off the blinders and proven themselves to only care about what the smallest percentage of people with the biggest bankroll want, and a player community which has gone from generally grumpy to disenfranchised and vitriolic.

For a lot of people, this was their first foray into gaming. For others, they've been a gamer for decades. In most cases, regardless of experience level, this game and this company has illustrated the worst parts of the gaming industry.

[distant gull]

Old Graphics isnt pure old graphics anymore

[meager python]

I love this idea. I personally can’t participate in some events because of the timeframes. For example I have not been able to do AH at all because of the time and my work schedule.

[steel musk]

same i miss some events becuase time .. would be nice if they add AI to more events

[faint flint]

Fail Plus can’t organise a drink up in a brewery

[meager python]

Have you made a feedback report for this? I am sure others feel the same way.

[misty pewter]

😂 they will end up serving coffee in a brewery

[meager python]

Well I don’t drink and love coffee so that would work for me but I get the point you are trying to make 😂

[pine tree]

Probably been asked a million times,any news on the mines?

[steel musk]

did not write

[faint flint]

Next nexus they are back 🤣

[pine tree]

Why?...lol

[steel musk]

think they messed it again.. so they should send compensation ..
after reset should back if no Nexus

[meager python]

You should. I know I would upvote it or if you are not sure how then I can help you

[faint flint]

Have they decided how frequent Nexus is. I heard it’s weekly, every other week and also monthly?

[steel musk]

will write one and leave it there 🫣

[worn pewter]

I’d take never again

[faint flint]

Me too.

[meager python]

You and me both Deku 😆

[thorny plume]

Well its not all bad, assuming you have bios. New rays now makes it ALOT easier to finish previous hero gen

So that decreases the gap between the half whales and the targets

Took me two rounds to build chukon

[faint flint]

It used to make it easy to finish current generation

[thorny plume]

Not all 3 heroes

[tepid rivet]

I have asked the same question yesterday and no one had an answer to this from officials

[thorny plume]

Making a hero in 1 month for bio we mostly get for free

Shouldnt really be something to complain about, sure its not the latest hero. But its a hero good enough to keep your wall a little more safe

[lean leaf]

Yooooo wtf where are all mines @merry scroll

Great scam buy packs to unlock higher levels or more mines, or those weekly passes, but no mines to mine lol

[spice saffron]

We need new CMs lol

[thorny plume]

The mines are coming tomorrow

Its Nexus week, mines arent in those weeks

But they should have mines in those weeks, since alot wont play Nexus

[unreal lichen]

Anyone else missing 100' of relos? Nexus strikes again

[thorny plume]

Its because of Nexus

[lean leaf]

Mines should be 24/7 lol

[thorny plume]

I noticed it ate porters aswell, i thought i was using bio to port because it said so. But apparently it was porters

[meager python]

It will be every two weeks

[lean leaf]

ohhh yeah empty backpack lol, perfect right for sunday RR’s

[thorny plume]

Lol what for real ?!

Thats gonna suck

Nexus ate around 500k bio and 70 porters 😂

[meager python]

Don’t shoot the messenger 😅

[thorny plume]

Aint no way we can do that every two week

[lean leaf]

Soooo now we need to choose do we quit job or quit game with such amount of events and time needed for game lol

[steel musk]

I could help with ss 👀

[thorny plume]

I heard Nexus was in the end of each migo "section" are you certain its every 2 weeks ?

[tepid rivet]

You're only just back, keep a low profile 🤣

[meager python]

I’m 💯 with you on the too many events. I’m at a point I don’t even do most of them anymore.

[faint flint]

Also eats billions of resources

[meager python]

Yes I wanted to confirm before answering the question.

[thorny plume]

It does ? I didnt notice

[faint flint]

Anyway whats up with you. Just sell a kidney.

[faint flint]

If you heal it does.

It’s too easy to get zeroed. I lost 4million troops and it was 1b each of wood and food to heal

You have to heal or just quit nexus for the duration

[meager python]

To add I found this for you about the frequency of the event #🆘︱sos_discussion message

Yeah a lot of my alliance was zeroed and couldn’t do anything.

[unreal lichen]

Game

[faint flint]

It says Nexus takes 2 weeks to finish event. Last Nexus was only a week duration

Even that is 💩 lies again

[meager python]

A week of it was long enough for me. Please don’t jinx it and make them do it for 2. 🤣🤣🤣

[faint flint]

I mean they advertise one thing and do something completely different

[meager python]

Got to run. Have 2 RR to do

[lean leaf]

congrats on nr2 in nexus soloxD

[sick edge]

there is no mines now after nexus ?? also the mine's i was mining in nexus i never got any reward for the last one's i was doing...

[steel falcon]

Getting sick and f'ing tired of these total mismatches in RR and KotH and the game matching times when I am trying to f'ing sleep!!!! 🤬 🤬

[mighty gorge]

@winter canyon I just realised this was you?

[winter canyon]

That's me
You are Mister C from EAU?

[mighty gorge]

Yep

[still tapir]

Anyway nexus is over and now we've lost the mines completely. I wonder whose brilliant idea was this? Nexus is a awful event that ran even worse than MM, which was expected. Plus Terrible matchmaking. And now we don't even have mines since we can't even get into the map. Does anyone know how often nexus is going to be opened?

[mighty gorge]

It wasn't until after it finished, I thought hold on, state #676

[warm cloak]

😂

[winter canyon]

GG😊
Was a close one!

[unreal lichen]

Love me some bbqs

[mighty gorge]

Very. Enzo is a bit of a beast. Had I known it was you, I would have chased you around the map 😂

[meager python]

This event will be every two weeks and from what I’m being told the mines should be back at reset when the nexus officially closes.

[winter canyon]

Be nice Bacon

[raw breach]

I have missing 1 k, my alliance member 4 k. We could have cleared if if mines was not part of nexus. How come 0 of nexus points is part of 500k

[mighty gorge]

My heart wasn't in it to be fair and a few people where not communicating

[lean leaf]

Mines should be on map on sundays too when nexus is not available to enter!

[fleet idol]

Mines should never be off the map to be honest

[lean leaf]

Same as there should be more than f 1 single lvl9 mine in lvl2city spawn area

[fleet idol]

I know a lot of people who were really mad that they spent money to get to level 9 mines and when Nexus opened at reset they were asleep because they were in other countries and they lost out. Finally that the highest mine was the level 7. Not to mention how are the little alliances that you won't allow to compete in Nexus supposed to get these badges when they can't mine if you can't put them in the map

[meager python]

I agree with you all 💯

[mighty gorge]

Yes. I'm one of them.

[meager python]

There has been feedback reported on this as well if you want to upvote on it. You can find it here #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[winter canyon]

I just don't get why they would remove the mines from the usual map

[winter canyon]

Ouch that sux

So close to 500k

[stable anvil]

You will get the when 24 hours have concluded. I just got 3 mails in the middle of rr about a return investment on mines from nexus

[stable cosmos]

Right game. Read all the comics. Where is my statue

[fleet idol]

Inwas gonna buy the vip 9.99 but decided against it due to lack of usage and it being wasted a few days

[winter canyon]

I hope it will get better next time😊

[turbid furnace]

Absolutely garbage.. Thank you for all the bugs and that, here, like many others, falls by the wayside without a reward

[winter canyon]

Buffy is very strong!

[mighty gorge]

Didn't this also happen with the last comic book also?

[mighty gorge]

We have a few, but they where also in Legion 2

[stable cosmos]

Got caught by the gashapon coins last time so i never finished it, dunno.

[tardy night]

Last comic they just misled by saying that finishing all panels would give frags.

What it instead did was sum up the frags you got along the way.

Something along the lines of:

Finish all comic panels to get X frags

[viscid hollow]

Close 👀

[raw breach]

Devs better give us all 120 migo coins

[viscid hollow]

I hope so, I don’t think we can reach the 8000 points for the astro coin either missing even one of these.

[stable anvil]

Got mine and im no whale

Its a matter of being smart at the right stage

[loud condor]

It's all about luck, some were locked out and can't mine

Just because you are not getting screwed, doesn't mean everyone else too

And i believe some also had their progress reset.

[lavish heron]

People didn’t mine all through the week??

[loud condor]

Read up a lot, by days

Probably from the beginning

[stable anvil]

I remember this happening like 2 days into start of migo, but still

[lavish heron]

Was there even a mine challenge this week??

Just asking tho. Can’t remember

[loud condor]

Dunno, all i know is I'm very lucky getting some of the badges done.

[lavish heron]

I think people are asking for mines to have been part of it so they get the maxed

[loud condor]

All i know is salt matters more to me.

Being a little farmer, no salt no progress

Don't really care about migo, rankings, or anything else.

[lavish heron]

@winter canyon @mighty gorge was there a mine event this week?? I don’t remember doing it.

Sorry to tag but you guys are who I communicate with often

Just trying to understand why people are complaining about the migo and not reaching the 500k mark

[loud condor]

I think it's on the menu a few times

But not this week

[lavish heron]

Yeah if it wasn’t on for this week then everything is fair. I don’t see the complaint about it.

[loud condor]

Definitely not fair no matter what angle you look at it

[lavish heron]

Just saw this and went to check my relocators. I have only 19 left. I thought I was porting for free during Nexus and not knowing it was taking the relocators.

[loud condor]

Meanwhile I still have 350+

[lavish heron]

How??

[visual frigate]

Just got my mine stuff.

so the trick was to send marches at 23:50

[loud condor]

Regardless migo or not, it's never fair if people get different treatment/rules

[lavish heron]

Sorry which mine??

[visual frigate]

Nexus mines

[lavish heron]

Mine is removed for now

[visual frigate]

The black one and the white one

[loud condor]

Nexus mines

[lavish heron]

Yeah they are removed.

[visual frigate]

Yes, but my marches that I sent yesterday stayed and now I got the materials

[vale yoke]

If you sent while it was open, it still mined. So people who sent later are getting their mining earnings

[loud condor]

If you still mining when they kicked you out of nexus, they're still in progress

[visual frigate]

Exactly

[lavish heron]

Well it should open on Monday so we would be able to complete the task for stage 2 migo

Except it’s stage 1 that’s being complained about

[digital glacier]

Crystal mines was in the "upcoming events next week" portion last week. And they weren't available tasks this week.

Causing 7920 missed points and a bs cs response.

[vale yoke]

I'm guessing they're being returned to wilderness map

Just my thought

Idk I haven't been in game since... Uh.

[visual frigate]

Or maybe Nexus will be every week

[vale yoke]

Meh

[loud condor]

And don't forget when normal maps mines suddenly removed, some people may actually have not sent for minings

[digital glacier]

Probably at 0 utc. Since nexus will "officially" be over
Which means yeah, 0 mining completion when every week Its done within 15 minutes of reset 😂

[lavish heron]

So you’re saying some people were relying on it for this week to max out and it did not show up as they thought, thereby making them unable to max the 500k??

[visual frigate]

Yeah

People calculated exactly how many tasks they needed

[digital glacier]

Correct

[vale yoke]

Accurate

[lavish heron]

Oh. I get now.

Many people would have maxed it I guess

[digital glacier]

Since mining release, it has been a weekly task EVERY WEEK! except this week when they transfered mines to nexus.

[vale yoke]

And then entire alliances like mine were locked out from mining anything altogether because we either didn't qualify or missed the tiny second reg window

[lavish heron]

Yeah. Makes sense. I understand. Thanks for explaining it

[vale yoke]

Been fun relying on the comp packs with no crystal

[lavish heron]

I guess they figured everyone will max it like that and didn’t want that

[vale yoke]

God forbid anything be intuitive or "too grindy"

We might actually accomplish things

Devs can't have that, then who will buy bundles

[lavish heron]

It’s the relocators that’s pissing me… I just found out we were charged relocators for every port in Nexus.

I had no idea. Thought it was free

[loud condor]

Heh, i prefer it cost me relocators than bio

[vale yoke]

It depends for me

[lavish heron]

With bios you’d know it’s taken but relocators just came off your backpack without knowledge. I have only 19 left

[vale yoke]

Prolly wouldn't have been happy to have found that out without first being informed. Or if it gave the option to use bios or relo

[visual frigate]

Relocators and bios... that's rough

Yeah, I am down to 300 ((((

[vale yoke]

Bios or relos

[lavish heron]

Yeah. If I’d known, I’d have jumped less… I was literally everywhere jumping cause I thought it was free

[loud condor]

Day 1, lock out of nexus
Day 2, 5 free relocation
Day 3, still 5
Day 4, 2 relocators not losing checkpoint
Day 5 don't really care

[digital glacier]

Completing every task that's been available you would need picture 2 (this is 1 possible combination with a realistic in state vs cross state rank)
But because they removed the mines, you would had to have increased something. So picture 3 is a realistic change. (again, just 1 possible combination)

Crystal mines are 7920 points, and nexus rank rewards do not count for that badge.

[lavish heron]

I guess they figured a lot will have it

That’s all I can imagine.

[digital glacier]

Usinhrg that logic they would have removed rr / koh because it's 15200 points 😆

[turbid furnace]

[digital glacier]

They did this because they moved the mines to nexus and it broke the system does this
Are mines on map = yes = task
Are mines on map = no =, no task
System says "oh. No mines on map, no task"

It's a simple line of code to use 1 to generate for different versions of world event seasons.

[digital glacier]

We both getting screwed hardcore by sos from this 😭

[turbid furnace]

All the bugs and mines plus Nexus... We players are you who have to fight it out

Thanks to Nexus and all the bugs, everyone should get the reward

[lavish heron]

Red dot is driving me crazy. Been there since the end of nexus and nothing to claim. I was not present when we got level 2 city but I got level 5 city and now the game is confused.

[digital glacier]

It's ok. It's not much reward.

[tepid rivet]

Been having red dots on PTR for 3 or 4 weeks or so, nothing to claim, doesn't go away, was reported, nothing was done about it lol

[digital glacier]

Did you try at all to garisson the level 2 after they occupied it?

[lavish heron]

Yeah I know. It’s the red dot. It’s killing me

[digital glacier]

Well, good luck being there for the next nexus. 😅

[lavish heron]

I have 2 accounts. Was on the other one that day and so didn’t participate in this one

[turbid furnace]

The bad thing is every dev knows where the problems are and where they were... No wonder that 98 percent don't get the reward.. And apparently it doesn't matter.. Although all these bugs meant we had the problem of not being able to complete this task.. And what was it about? To us players or yours, Nexus? What is a PTR for? Oh, forgot... PTR error message go up to the live server.. Nobody will notice

[astral stratus]

Since Nexus doesn't give any points for new beginner badge I'm not sure what you want to say.
The indivual badges yeah, but there's supposedly more Nexus coming to get them

[turbid furnace]

I am ignorant. I know... I was also 3,years mod.. I know the answers

[astral stratus]

I try to understand. You still can get the Nexus rewards next time, the Nexus badges stay

Ok and Nexus dont give points for that anyway

[digital glacier]

If not, you'll get it at the end of the season in the rewards stash or mailbox for unclaimed badges 😆

[digital glacier]

@astral stratus

[astral stratus]

But thats for all the same

[digital glacier]

This pretty much sums up how we got fkd.

[astral stratus]

Mufasa I'm blonde and hate sheets

I wouldn't even had to play rr today as I got my 500k points 2 days ago already

And I didn't score that hard in last SvS

[coarse verge]

I did too and it was 2 days ago but but this was when we all reported the bug some people even got level 7 badge and they didn’t occupy level 7 so it was just a bug I think

[astral stratus]

We all didn't know. Neither you nor I nor anyone.

[astral stratus]

The Nexus badges are indepentend from new beginning badge

[coarse verge]

That day with the patch, people got both and level 7 wasn’t even open yet

Hopefully others get it tomorrow

[astral stratus]

I get people are upset that they missed out on glory because of the bugs in nexus. Yes its pain to the stars.
But we still push

[astral stratus]

You talk from different badges dear. Its about the new beginning badge and that people miss like 1k points to unlock it.
Not the Nexus badges

[digital glacier]

Mines = 7920 points
Please tell me
WHAT 1 INDIVIDUAL TASKS I can complete for 7920 points?

[coarse verge]

If they didn’t fix it , We are not staying, for the first time in 2 years we have no crates from bundle purchases and we usually spends lots , I am proud, we are not even angry and we started planning how we communicate after and so many will follow

[astral stratus]

I assume no task

But im not in game but in the kitchen and cook dinner to check just this week

[digital glacier]

Exactly.

[hoary flint]

Happy birthday Mufasa

[astral stratus]

Oh gosh!

I forgot

happy b-day you little wonderful pain, Mufasa

[vale yoke]

MUFASA happy birthday

[digital glacier]

Please. Take your conversation to general chat. 🤭

[astral stratus]

[vale yoke]

Okay I go get dog walked in raid now.

[hoary flint]

||Send him hugs in dm please he will love that||

[digital glacier]

I'm dieabetic 🙄

You mean

You try to kill me

[vale yoke]

Sugar freeeeeeee

[astral stratus]

You bug us sometimes we're fine here with congratulations

[hoary flint]

Edited im sorry

[tepid rivet]

So am I, just take your insulin shot and eat whole cake

[digital glacier]

Apple pie 🥰🥰🥰

[astral stratus]

Diabetic too, eating cake though

[digital glacier]

No cake

[tepid rivet]

American Pie

[hoary flint]

wish you a great day now i have to run we have RR at 18:00

[digital glacier]

Same

[tepid rivet]

Happy birthday Mufasa and good luck in RR, don't leave the pie untouched

[loud condor]

Ugh

[coarse verge]

Happy B day

[distant gull]

Add report button in POW, Add report button in POW, Add report button in POW, Add report button in POW, Add report button in POW,

Add report button in POW, MORE AFK USELESSS

[solid rivet]

Dont forget, this is how they do the matchmaking

Recalibrated, You know!!?

[digital glacier]

I win 2 rr today 🤗

[livid pond]

Oh happy birthday Mufasa! 🥳

[still tapir]

Something tells me Nexus event made matchmaking much worse for RR. Generally we've been lucky with our matches being more fun and competitive but today is boring. We will slaughter them. 😒

[digital glacier]

We had a very equal opponent today 🤗

[forest kiln]

Same, but it was hard... for Nexus - no, but I have nothing to complain about, even my small 20BP alliance was on map with 50 - 100BP alliances , I took top 2 solo, my team all in top 30

[still tapir]

@digital glacier 😒 super jealous.

I'm in the middle of my match right now and boring

[steel musk]

up vote plz
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

best report ever..
( just lazy to do hero challenge, Behmoth trials and some others events )

there many events tho.
Auto mode by AI would help..

[digital glacier]

AI intel 😆... Only use Travis ✅

[steel musk]

would be nice 😂

or they make help from alliance members dont cost stam for intel

[digital glacier]

Would be nice if I could get my old graphics back 🤷

Who knew, after 4.5 years, they slowly force a different scenery on you thats becoming more and more designed for pc gaming than phone gaming.

[steel musk]

buy pc

thats FP opinion..
they will start make pcs then selling it ..

[digital glacier]

Will it start 😆

Good, could you imagine, fp code an operating system 😂

0 privacy but claims 60,000% privacy 😂

[steel musk]

you need buy 5$ bundle to install 1 new app

[digital glacier]

If sos wanna get rid of f2p or really really annoyed people, Just make them spend $0.99 for the app 😆

[steel musk]

game depends on chat..
without f2p, states will be desert

and there discord also

or they just merge states so all good

😂

[digital glacier]

Merge will kill ⅓ of the players.

Seen it with 3+ states merging into 1 for every "first time" merge

[steel musk]

yes some would quit

after merger

wonder how many states could fill with 300 players.. without f2p

[still tapir]

As I figured they were a gen skipped state. They had no busy fighting against us.

Completely unfair match

[digital glacier]

300 players could fill 1 state, but would need 6 to make bloodsport work. But devs probably screw that up and make 3 so it breaks both bloodsport and svs😆😂

[steel musk]

its because Devs greedy did not give gen 13 - 15 maxed for free

[steel musk]

they could do states which work by AI.. 😂

[still tapir]

Yeah. It was a complete slaughter.

[digital glacier]

So, 2 options. Option 1. They're all max and discourage playing. Or 2. They weak and we all fall asleep during competition 😂

[steel musk]

they all maxed to make real players spend more.. so 1st option 😂

[digital glacier]

So don't compete and break ai. Got it 😆

No strategy, but fast to get diamond 😆

[steel musk]

yes but they care about rank only then..

not fun or fight in event

[nimble swift]

migo objective for 500k is discouraging. i did all migo tasks, all rr, all koh on 2 chars. just i was in top 200 of svs warfare stage, and not top 100. resulting as 499998 / 500k points on both chars. 😭

[dense tree]

You got closer than me. I’m still 5700 points short

[digital glacier]

Thank the devs for screwing up mining task for 7920 points this week!

[halcyon field]

[digital glacier]

On week 3, it was shown as "upcoming/next week task"

But it ain't here

[halcyon field]

unfortunately the same here

[digital glacier]

And we all getting a hot cattle prod up our rear end

[halcyon field]

Anyone want to open feedback on this? I would love to vote

[cloud vale]

Is it a requirement to be drunk while developing events in this game?

[steel musk]

they clicked on wrong button

[nimble swift]

please

[knotty storm]

If they didn't removed the mines and the tasks almost everyone would get that... And there won't be spending 🙈🙈🙈🙈

[nimble swift]

i feel like i will just be less active in further events

[knotty storm]

😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[halcyon field]

Need you state number and IGN

[nimble swift]

what is IGN?

[halcyon field]

Name in game

In game name

[nimble swift]

state 989 : chars cerealkiller and J0J0

[halcyon field]

Okay, when it is ready, I will let you know!

[nimble swift]

thanks

[halcyon field]

Good news, it's already out there, so you can vote here #🐞︱bug-reporting message and #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[coarse blaze]

I'm wondering.. if it's possible to score those migo points in 3rd stage .. because it's only 2w short

For badge

Think it's impossible to get.. ?

[tame jackal]

You will probably need top 5/10 in SOTF, top 20/50 in interstate and do all the daily tasks and of course, Trowdown, RR, KOTH and so on

[coarse blaze]

So only spenders

Get it

[tame jackal]

like always

[coarse blaze]

Because... this stage is shorter.. and maybe score must be reduced