📋︱feedback-discussion

[unreal lichen]

😂😂

[worldly sable]

They obviously lead very fulfilling lives to do these kind of things

[thorn axle]

Maybe if I’m feeling nice in whatever we match I’ll put a no hit message for you

[unreal lichen]

There are more there but i had to mute the guy. He was killing the fun for others

[worldly sable]

I counted at least 10 comments from him on the same video lol

[short blade]

After koth I don’t wanna be matched with you again but thank you ♥️

[winter canyon]

Sadly, P2W can become P2L

[storm solstice]

Copy that. Im needy. Attention needy. Money needy.. Needy overall.
MonkeyKingofNeediness

[worldly sable]

Aren't we all?

[unreal lichen]

Thanks for helping me 😂 He now can talk to himself without anyone's notice 😂

[thorn axle]

This reminds me, if I put feedback for naming aircrafts who will upvote

[worldly sable]

🙋

[thorn axle]

I can always count on you Lisa 😌

[unreal lichen]

Under my name?

[mighty gorge]

Me, Me, Me! Pick me, pick me

[thorn axle]

Id rather not have my aircraft called kakashi

[spark kindle]

Do it

[storm solstice]

Don't you dare to question that im the King of Neediness 😂

[unreal lichen]

KaKashi the Rocket?

[digital glacier]

Yo bacon. You wanna get out of here for a minute and help me. I know this conversation just sooooo awesome right now 🤣

[thorn axle]

Noo

[worldly sable]

Naming mine BoehnerCraft, to make things political

[mighty gorge]

This is my break, I'm meant to actually be setting someones discord server up for them lol

I might have, um...neglected it

[digital glacier]

🤣

Send me a picture of your migo cost buildings.

[storm solstice]

Aircraftsname:
#📋︱feedback-discussion message

Carrier name:
#📋︱feedback-discussion message

Just suggestions

[mighty gorge]

You mean the outpost?

[digital glacier]

Yes

[mighty gorge]

Sec

[storm solstice]

Mufi, you know how to ruin fun, right?

[digital glacier]

Ruin a fight 🤔

I know how to post a video sharing p8 gems giving 100,000% bonuses.
But don't know how to share video about bugged outpost building 🤷

[thorn axle]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Cerb

You know what just clicked in my head

Remember my sticker feedback

We getting stickers in game according to #🎉︱server_announcements message

[mighty gorge]

I....

You're off my christmas card list again

[olive sluice]

because that's what we need most.........

[thorn axle]

Hey listen

At least they are free for everyone

[mighty gorge]

Listening....

watiing for the justification

[thorn axle]

Plus I never expected to get more stickers

I have no justification

[mighty gorge]

[stable cosmos]

Stickers are terrible. They suck everywhere. Giant blobs that interrupt conversation and fill the screen

[unreal lichen]

Ooops

[thorn axle]

Luci my bro nice to see you around

And you disappeared

[copper moat]

@thorn axle hello mod 💀💀💀

[thorn axle]

Don’t be so formal

[copper moat]

😂😂

How are you sis ?

[thorn axle]

I is good, just chatting about some feedback about aircraft naming hehe

[winter canyon]

Lol I thought I could try to catch up on lethality & HP, but then they released an aircraft carrier that requires a lvl140 plane to unlock...

[mighty gorge]

couple of packs, and you're sorted 😂

[copper moat]

🫡🫡🫡

[mighty gorge]

Is that sticker approved for use in discord. I feel like its promoting gambling and spending

[last hazel]

It might be in game soon😂

[mighty gorge]

It already is, in 697 only 😂

[winter canyon]

I don't intend to spend. If I do, I might become addicted to that and will end up getting myself disowned😞

[copper moat]

[last hazel]

At least I can throw some $s by an emojis 😂

[pallid willow]

Is just pixels 😘

[mighty gorge]

Stickers have no place in this game, IMHO. pointless tat.

[winter canyon]

Unless you spend like 10K a week, you're probably not even going to be close to competitive

[olive sluice]

during DD? yes

[winter canyon]

And I'm not going to get myself in trouble with family over this game lol

[stable cosmos]

Decorations are the only pointless tat we should have, and it SHOULD be pointless tat. Not something you upgrade or buy for bonuses. Pointless decorations are key part of city builders

[mighty gorge]

Do what I do, just get rid of them. Problem solved.

[stable cosmos]

DD is probably going to wind up a loss for them if enough people quit after

[mighty gorge]

ofc, they will have re-assigned their 'best developers'

which, by most standards is probably mediocre

[stable cosmos]

I hope their new games fail too. If anyone asked about it I'd tell them not to touch it. Never get involved with funplus

[pallid willow]

Pirates are boring asf as well

[winter canyon]

I can't do that...

[mighty gorge]

I have extra lime, a spade and i know a great place in the forest

I'll bring the bacon

[stable cosmos]

Well that is a thing. You bury the person 8 feet down and the pig 6.

So yes, bacon is required

That was from tumblr as i apparently killed the chat too 🤣

[nova jetty]

As much as I love bacon this is more of a #🧟︱general conversation than feedback.

[mighty gorge]

You're right glossy, so toodle off over there and help out

Oh, I see you already have

[woven spire]

Not random

this became trash cause they realized people might buy coins

you cannot empty it anymore before next svs

[olive sluice]

true. 1 hit by a maxed player and you need 6 weeks to enlist

[nova jetty]

I am not sure that its random but it does change alot! To increase the duty rate ,your alliance can knock down a tower and just send a single troop to build it from each player, it increase the duty rate and takes a long time so you don't have to keep knocking them down

[olive sluice]

is this tested and proved or just an assumption?

[nova jetty]

Yes building increases duty

[nova jetty]

Maybe try these things. ... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146919962276012073/1162103137360957642/TT__How_to_get_duty_for_enlistment.png?ex=65ea0f62&is=65d79a62&hm=057cedf83697786a9e4218011a0efa198fb0b50c3edfbf37012d02f8c6cd67af&

[stable cosmos]

None of that stuff changes duty rate. Some of it provides a lump sum of duty, doing your dailies is worth 3000 or so per chest. But clearing your hospital does NOTHING. That whole image shouldn't exist if its gonna give bad advice

[worldly sable]

Kind of sucks because I let all of my troops die during SvS, healing 1k batches at a time is useless - so at the end of SvS, I have 6m+ troops in enlisted and it is literally never empty since I do the same next SvS

[stable cosmos]

Duty coins are a massive ripoff past T10 troops.

[olive sluice]

this is all known and done every time, but it's not enough

Also we need to save our duty coins we get each SvS for an emergency case before a state transfer.

Healing and enlistment simply isn't scaled for the ever increasing march sizes and increased healing time for higher troop levels.

Devs only do something when we cry for months

[digital glacier]

No. Not random.

[digital glacier]

Emptying it makes it bad 🙈

[worldly sable]

It lowers even if I do not remove troops

[distant gull]

422k 👀

[digital glacier]

. Your duty ÷ duty to recruit all troops is closer to full isn't it?

[worldly sable]

Was higher at the end, I think

[worldly sable]

wdym

[digital glacier]

The circular bar with
#/#

That circle close to full?

[worldly sable]

No because I emptied some of it out, but even when I didn't; it dropped

so I went ahead and removed

[distant gull]

@digital glacier i still love old name

sos screwing players since 1969

[stable cosmos]

Duty rate has no real bearing on anything although there is a magic number in there somewhere

[digital glacier]

It drops based on many factors.
Hospitalized. Duty recovery rate. Hospital capacity vs enlisted troops
Enlisted capacity vs enlisted troops
Duty vs max duty.

[stable cosmos]

Mine just sits on 2167 wheter i take troops out or not. Hospital does nothing etc etc. 2167. Always

[distant gull]

Petition to add this sticker in game

[digital glacier]

This is basically how enlistment works. Based on several factors.theres an optimum point to keep it at.

When you hit the peak and it starts to drop. Don't yank out tons of troops.
Pull them little by little. You'll empty your enlistment so much faster that way.

And hitting 4k and dropping to 2600.... Thats not hitting the peak. 😅

Under most normal conditions you'll see one day 90k. That's the peak. At your setup. It could be 360k most likely if you tweaked a few factors. 🤷 That's the true peak of enlistment. (that I'm aware of)

Think of it like gas consumption when driving.
15mph ok gas milage
30mph better gas milage
45 mph even better gas milage.
But try to do 120 and you'll notice your gas milage is just as bad as probably doing 15mph 😂

[dense lance]

I'd love this one in game

[digital glacier]

😜

I see that being used as a tactical emote too 😂

[dense lance]

I think you can set all the stickers as tactical emotes

so it'd happen!

[digital glacier]

Cryptocurrency

[dense lance]

I mean an event where you let your phone mine for them wouldn't really be a surprise lol

[digital glacier]

Bloods & crypts

[dense lance]

"GUYS WE BROUGHT BACK MINING MAYHEM"

[digital glacier]

But the bot doesn't censor that
😂

[dense lance]

Sho nuff

[pallid willow]

At least free coins are back

[stable cosmos]

I got censored for a joking post about electronically encrypted monetary unit mining. Why its a banned word i dunno. Aa long as you weren't scamming people with it whats the issue with the word. Valid thing. Stupid, but valud

[distant gull]

Blood

[digital glacier]

C

Cr

Cry

Cryp

Crypt

Cryptoc

Blocked word. So dumb.

[tardy night]

Probably an issue with filter list of the bot itself. Wallet scams are a dime a dozen everywhere in DC except for game servers lol

[pallid willow]

I’ve thought that too for a while now, they eagerly make us spend a lot of time in game doing a lot of taps

They add like 5 minutes more each month 😂

[distant gull]

Becca Jumpscare me now

[tiny quiver]

Yeah and while Becca talks you get hit 3-4 more times because it locks you in

[distant gull]

Better side task

[tiny quiver]

It’s a good change ..hope they carry it over to other p2p events

[worldly sable]

They’re really something else. Day 2 of my feedback being I hate this game

Also why are the rerolls so costly. They literally give you a worse skill 90% of the time

[digital glacier]

I ascended 5 purples then a gold. Figured I would try my chances.
Nope. 3 skills on purple better than the gold 😂

2 minutes later. Someone gets 4.9m bp tempest. 😢... Thats guaranteed level 4 ultra rare skill.

[keen narwhal]

lol again?

[digital glacier]

Of course

They're still trying to milk players to spend money for gen res frags for the RE heroes without having to pay RE for the $ they get from those bundles.
And then they will release new reso hero when they feel they aren't making the money they want from re heroes 🤷

They kinda shot themself in the foot though because those mid spenders who looked at the new tempest arms skills will see there's a few of them that make Leon + Lan absolutely trash 🤣
Many low spenders won't spend for a potentially worthless hero, or they shouldn't at least.
And Leon was so hard to obtain for most 🙈 they truely did an amazing job screwing players over on that one.

[fallow lodge]

Svs matching we get recently merged state as opponent what kind of bs is that. Get the rest of us who missed out been merged on next opportunity. At least give us a fair chance or sort your matching out 🤨

[worldly sable]

If the devs were smarter, they'd add tank and new aircraft parts to Shop n Save, too bad they're so stupid

[stable cosmos]

If the devs were smarter this would be a good game rather than a supermarket with a casino attached

[stiff ether]

How does someone already know on Saturday which state you‘re going to be matched with for SvS? Any idea?

[marble sand]

Dm

[wide wraith]

it shows on SVS from reset

[stiff ether]

On Saturday at 0:00 UTC? Since when?

[wide wraith]

Since I have been in the game

[stiff ether]

So why does it show Matching Countdown the whole Saturday?

[wide wraith]

yeah but at reset Sunday Morning it shows who you will be fighting at SVS

[stiff ether]

But we were contacted on Saturday from the state we have been officially matched with on Sunday about a NAP on the grey zone.

Which is impossible without insider information

Which is scam.

Can’t deny you have a point there😄

[stable cosmos]

That really shouldn't work. Time in game isn't the same as pc time. If that functions they've done horrendously. Which is par for the course but still...

[stiff ether]

It‘s a complete mismatch anyway, more than 500 states gap in between.

[stable cosmos]

You could be lucky. The other state could be mostly dead. Although 500 is probably too much. Seen 200 work out

[spark kindle]

Did someone tell you how already?

[stiff ether]

Yup.

[tiny quiver]

Same with my state the gov knew and communicated it to us in state chat yesterday

Sorry was 2 days ago

Look at the date

[mighty gorge]

I have no recollection of that event your honour

[tiny quiver]

Hey C

You want me to withhold the 🥓

[mighty gorge]

You can't make me talk, you can't make me talk

[tiny quiver]

Bacon 🥓

💥

[viscid ore]

Good morning, in any case I have the feeling that the combinations for SVS are really strange this time

at least looking at sc of match that are coming to another server

🤔

[stable cosmos]

Probably after the last round of mergers theyre all messed up,we have less states than before. Many of the strong people are conglomerating and the devs want to make sure the strong states don't fight each other.

[thorny plume]

That is a good question, seen before that some know it already before the 24 hour ticker is out. Ive never seen it before the timer is out

[analog nymph]

Soon it wont be possible, i don't actually care because i never have used it.

[shell shard]

How many symbols can we pack together? All of them 😄
Who clicks on them all the time because they take up half the screen? 😮

[spark kindle]

It's a small trick, an alleged bug and like all bugs that people benefit from, will be fixed quickly. You can thank people who made videos about it to get views, for the quick fix.

[spark kindle]

I click out of curiosity and instantly regret

[tame lintel]

Pc version..

Very easy

[tame lintel]

It works. Has for long while.

Can see svs opponent Friday..

[exotic wasp]

They will fix this bug

[crystal iron]

Devs: pay and will be a fixed

[exotic wasp]

Go sleep

[crystal iron]

[marble grove]

What components is this for?!

[untold stag]

That is for the new aircraft carrier.

Speaking of which, did anyone figure out why some people can see it and some can't?

[spark kindle]

You can't see it if your first gen plane is not max

[storm solstice]

I'm innocent in that case.

[spark kindle]

Hahah no, you know who the culprit is

Most content creators are mindful about exposing these things but there are some sad exceptions

[vale yoke]

I know you can do it on mobile as well, but I've never been good at fiddling with my phone enough to try. Also, that's a lot of effort. Lol

Something about floating windows and changing clocks and something something

I've never understood so it's just not worth it

[untold stag]

I've heard some ideas on how to do it as well. Again, not really worth enough effort for me to do, however.

[vale yoke]

Same, Neville. Same. Happy to just wait to find out who the opponent is, but if others have that kind of time and energy, then cool

[analog nymph]

Well soon its not possible anymore

[vale yoke]

Wonder how people will figure it out

Lol

[analog nymph]

Devs are currently fixit it

[vale yoke]

Ask a GM

Lol

I guess I don't understand why this is something which absolutely needs to be fixed when it's been happening for ages and no one said boo. Like why now? Of all things to fix, what is this related to that it will change?

[vale yoke]

They can't say it has anything to do with making sure the competition is balanced and matchmaking is fair, because, uh, this is SoS.

[digital glacier]

How is knowing 24 or 48 hours ahead of schedule, helpful in any way?

[vale yoke]

Apparently for planning, but I've never understood why it matters.

[digital glacier]

What's 24 - 48 hours gonna do when svs already a week long event 😂

[untold stag]

Honestly, the "value" it has is low at best. You get a jump on planning. But, the other side does too, so really not much there.

[vale yoke]

Exactly

So why is it an issue now when we've been able to do it for a few years?

My plan: "we have SvS?"

[digital glacier]

Few...... Day 1.lol.

[spark kindle]

They wouldn't have bothered with it if someone didn't made a how-to video

[untold stag]

IMO, it is that the "instant" selection makes it look like the system is broken, not random, ect.

[vale yoke]

Wait. WAAAAIT.

[digital glacier]

Ummm... Hello...
Remember me..
I knew the top 768 matchups for dd days before.
Umm.... What's that change anything 🤷

[vale yoke]

I am not even gonna guess who, but just know I'm thinking it, Dane.

[spark kindle]

They decided to fix it, something that has been there for around a year, after somebody made a video

That annoys me a lot even I personally didn't use it

[digital glacier]

😂 They fixed what exactly 🤔

[spark kindle]

The matter is not the bug being beneficial or not, it's the way they prioritize the slightly beneficial things for fixes and play dead when it comes to major issues

[vale yoke]

That part

[tired sedge]

omg hi i haven’t seen you in ages

[spark kindle]

They claim that they're working on it, not "fixed" yet

[vale yoke]

CHLO

I've been lurking here instead of genchat

[tired sedge]

i get shouted at if i come in here

[vale yoke]

I'll shout at someone who shouts at you.

Unless I'm shouting at you, then it's because I'm happy to see you

[tired sedge]

i tend to avoid being in here bcos it makes me wanna shout for a unicorn

[vale yoke]

There are still unicorn shouts, as well as uni kitty shouts. It's okay Chlo. If I go in gen chat, people tend to notice, so I hide here lol

Lurkin

[tired sedge]

i should probably hide here more

[vale yoke]

Here or bug discussion because both are rooms you can complain about the game, and you'll mostly only get other complaints back.

[untold stag]

Unikitty riding a unicorn!

[vale yoke]

While being transported by the Trojan Goat

[digital glacier]

😑

[vale yoke]

😘

[untold stag]

That would be funny as hell if that ended up being the #1 feedback.

[vale yoke]

I'd move and change my name lol

It would be nice if they could bring MM back in a better form with less issues, but also would repair the problems with RR. Last night's battle was nasty (great game to our opponents, you crushed us), but it would have been much less if we hadn't been getting booted, the game didn't lag and freeze, and we could actually have button presses be recognized the first time around

[tiny quiver]

Asking for a bit much don’t you think….next it will be for honest prices

[vale yoke]

Next on my list was a goat, actually, but I can put better pricing next instead.

[vale yoke]

checks notes
Fix lag
-goat-
Better pricing
Goat
World peace
Did I mention a goat

[tiny quiver]

You forgot the bacon emoji in game

[tardy night]

They did have this....no reason they can't have a goat

[vale yoke]

In all seriousness, as it was said earlier, they need to focus on the actual issues and not some silly thing where players have been able to see their opponents ahead of time. It's such a non-issue, and they've known about it for ages, they're only choosing just now to fix it.
Probably because some of their people got caught with their hands in the cookie jar in terms of favoritism and shady info being given out. Gotta make it look like they care about whatever they think fairness is supposed to be

[tiny quiver]

And since it’s morning here ☕

[vale yoke]

Also here!

I can't post the other thing because server rules, but just know it's a good morning.

[tiny quiver]

Thank you very much…

[viscid ore]

Omg😂😂 The zombie ducks!!

😂😂😂

[spark kindle]

Is that a tactical goose

Well, I mean it would make sense knowing how goose behave

[tardy night]

The beak of justice made its way to koa stickers collection is all I know 🫡

[spark kindle]

Beak of justice 😂😂😂😂

I don't think tactical goose will ever be not funny, I actually lolled

It is 😂😂😂😂

[mighty gorge]

The Goat of Unity

I'd buy that for a dolllar

[spark kindle]

Goat are anarchists though

[mighty gorge]

Exactly

[spark kindle]

I wouldn't mind having a baby goat

[mighty gorge]

Penguin of Persuasion?

[spark kindle]

😂😂😂 Why not

[mighty gorge]

Unicorn of Uniformity. The list is endless. In fact we could probably turn some of the mods into in game characters

[spark kindle]

Who

[mighty gorge]

Well, dalma could play a starring role in the mini games 😆

[spark kindle]

😂😂

[crystal iron]

[austere spoke]

Last time I talked to dalma she threatened to burn me in sc 😒 dont give her more power

[tiny quiver]

Bacon of Beauty

[near juniper]

[vale yoke]

Goats are amazing.

[tiny quiver]

On a plate

Goat cheese …

With fig jam

[vale yoke]

Now I want curry...

[spark kindle]

Of course they are, anarchists are too

[vale yoke]

Yes they are

Yes. Yes, they are.

[tiny quiver]

Raccoons are loyal and brilliant

[vale yoke]

Raccoons are little thieves whose loyalty can be bought.

And they're also amazing

[spark kindle]

Have you seen the "maybe I'm a raccoon" meme

[vale yoke]

Lil trash kitties

[tiny quiver]

Ohhh so SoS developers are 🦝

[vale yoke]

I'm actually three raccoons in an overcoat which are, in turn, actually three opossums in raccoon costumes, one of which is actually a goat who just wants to hang out with the cool raccoons.

[tiny quiver]

Trash divers … can be won over with cash …thieves..

[vale yoke]

Won over with pretty much anything, really

A family of them has visited the last two summers, so expecting at least the kids back at some point for my husband to hang out and give them things.

[mighty gorge]

My work here is done.

[tired sedge]

it’s not a want it’s a need

[worldly sable]

Yayyy

[dense lance]

what if we had a hero that was 3 raccoons in a trench coat 🤔

standing on each other's shoulders

[vale yoke]

I would love that so much

So so so much

Almost as much as a goat

[tall rivet]

Dear SoS,
I love DD.

What I do not love is your terrible matchmaking.
Letting us fight against alliances with double score is just pathetic

[winter canyon]

DD matching sucks because they put victims of gen skip in the same category as older states who had time to complete the purple brain for at least 3 heroes

[supple aurora]

Is there any way in the game to get those frames? I cannot see it any any offerings e.g. stores, etc.; the building and march are still offered

[winter canyon]

You're not going to get burned lol

[untold stag]

Even as a whale, is it really that much fun repeatedly crushing lowbies? At some point, the novelty of it has to wear off.

[dense lance]

The goal will be to eliminate as many as possible quickly, yeah, but they also don't want to eliminate the really strong ones quickly

[tall rivet]

Well I am a whale
I do not enjoy kraken tho

[dense lance]

I'm pretty sure I've seen that one pop up in certain crates where you can pick a frame

[winter canyon]

With the right talents in RR, the wounded you take from a max player should be a 5 digit number at most

[supple aurora]

I believe i have all the previous crates the last few months and not available

[untold stag]

The older frames come up in skin store now and again and in the various crates/events. I don't know about that one specifically, however.

[supple aurora]

Ok currently it is not for offer, so i need to wait 😦

[spark kindle]

Always check frame crates, I'm quite sure I've seen this in one

[dense lance]

That's also going to be helped if you keep a good march at home and your helicopter

[supple aurora]

Yeah last year of course; but not the last few months; building and march are available in pearl store

[dense lance]

I just had that, yeah, my first 2 marches were unstoppable and then I trot out gen 12 🙈

And that's not F2P

[tall rivet]

Gen skip is a part of the problem
But not the main problem

It’s simple
Fix the matchmaking

And then you have a fair environment for fights

[dense lance]

and that's where they really should give some kind of compensation to all the gen skip states that didn't get an event like age of outreach

[winter canyon]

When you skip 4 generations and can't spend enough to buy at least 2 marches you're done for in 1v1 water tank
And still I won't worry about burning in DD

[dense lance]

the gen skip problem adds to the matchmaking problem, otherwise you wind up with lopsided 1st marches vs 2nd, 3rd, etc.

[tall rivet]

If you face states with the same gen skip it won’t matter to you

[dense lance]

We just had a state about a year older for RR, and another for SVS

[winter canyon]

But that's not what happened

State 600-700s are matching 300s

[tall rivet]

Hence why matchmaking needs to be fixed

[dense lance]

The matchmaking restrictions, if they were officially there, are off, now

[tall rivet]

Yea no shot Sherlock.
That also can be avoided with better matchmaking

[dense lance]

658, matched 262 for RR and 273 for SVS, so it's even worse than that

[tall rivet]

You won’t have that issue with better matchmaking

What’s so hard to understand about that

[dense lance]

Because it's a fundamental part of matchmaking, and fixing matchmaking problems in general are going to be relatively impossible without skipping the gen skip problem

they caused the gen skip to facilitate matchmaking but there's a huge imbalance when players have a reduced option to defend because they need their primary march to attack

and the defensive heroes are so old they're Olde

[digital glacier]

Group a all get top 256 regardless.
They are the strengest 32 registered score alliances in the game.

[dense lance]

It's also easily fixable with some kind of compensation for all those states that got jumped up 3 or 4 generations

But they view that as giving "free" stuff probably, when it's actually just compensation for the time skip

[digital glacier]

Adapt to the situation. But nobody understand to sit in safe zone for attacking the 2 buildings in front of it 😂
Yes, others more difficult, but, if you port outside safe zone to buildings in front of safe zone. Well, you definitely not adapting at all. 🤷😂

[digital glacier]

So, give players free stuff for years worth of not playing the game.
Cool, I want free stuff for being a dedicated player 🤷

[dense lance]

Not all their people gen skipped 🤣

[dense lance]

Over that period of time you didn't get any free stuff?

A sensible F2P player, with the current and over that time methodology available, has a lot of opportunity to get stuff

I do it on my alt

Not asking for fully completed heroes or anything

But there's a lot of opportunities lost from the time jump

Even mid low spenders

[digital glacier]

It's a tournament.
Just like sports.
High seed vs low seed matching system. 🤷

"seed" = registered score

[dense lance]

There totally are strong vs weak teams in sports

[thorn axle]

Man City vs roma typa vibes

[digital glacier]

Maybe me and NFL dumb

..
I know my NFL team record.
I know all other teams records
..
1 game remains.
..
Win or lose we advance to playoffs
..
If we win, we play team A and will lose in playoffs.
If we lose, we play team b and will win in playoffs.
..
Lets lose the game to get easier playoff opponent
..
Simple strategy 🤷

Youre missing the point here 🤷

How sos makes groups?

Strong vs weak is determined by the score of the registered alliance.
🤷

[dense lance]

That kind of matchmaking is used in other things, like the NFL matchmaking cited above

[digital glacier]

They don't use rr record for 4 years worth 😂

DD registered score is their win/loss/tie rating for NFL 🤷
What so hard to understand?

That's the point I was making 😂

[dense lance]

It allows the bigger/stronger alliances to make it farther and makes the finals more exciting

Also they want us to spectate and watch the finals (not sure how well that goes but there are people who really like watching matches on YouTube)

[digital glacier]

American football.

Cr7 just can't understand the comparison 🤷

[terse agate]

AKA, they spend more😉🤣😂

[dense lance]

Also true

[worldly sable]

You pair strong vs weak so everyone can watch the 2 strongest play in eliminations

[dense lance]

and they don't want those teams that spend more to potentially get eliminated early, like if FBI and DYZ matched in game 1, one of them would be really angry (they don't like that) and it would also make the later matches boring

vs making the early matches boring

[terse agate]

Plus, FP can’t take the cry of whales when a strong team is matched against another strong team and gets kicked out of DD in an early stage

[worldly sable]

Yes

The weak teams will be eliminated regardless

[dense lance]

certainly, but also arguably the strongest teams should make it to the top

[worldly sable]

Also don’t really deserve to make it to finals 😂

[digital glacier]

Not exactly how it goes in sos. But yes. Pretty much.

[worldly sable]

Spending is better that way too, force everyone to buy until the very end

[terse agate]

I do agree with that, however the matchmaking sucks……
And the strongest will win anyway, even if they have a better matchmaking at start

[winter canyon]

Getting 12 heroes at once is awful. Now they match us against people who have had a year to upgrade them. How are you supposed to play?

[terse agate]

According to FP, that’s NOOOO problem

[dense lance]

If they have really equal matchmaking, half of the strongest (or more) would get eliminated early

[worldly sable]

I love my cowgirls but wouldn’t say they’re a strong team

[terse agate]

Yup, but they wouldn’t have won the finals anyway

[winter canyon]

If you lose a 1v1 duel because the stronger enemy spent more, fine, whatever. But if you lose a 1v1 duel because they screw states by skipping 4 generations so the other players have an UNFAIR advantage, that's not okay.

[dense lance]

I think to have equal matchmaking it would need a substantially shorter tournament and much better glory and rewards for the "Strong" league

Which would also be more fun, but they don't wanna do that

[peak apex]

[terse agate]

Hun, I have been talking to a brick wall for 9 months….
THEY DON’T CARE!!!!!
Right @merry scroll ?????
The cross gen states are scrwd, the devs know, but they don’t care……
They are saying they are thinking about a solution for 2 months now, while in fact they don’t

[digital glacier]

768 alliances sorted strongest to tweaked for the DD alliance score.

Group A has 8 groups. Of 4 alliances. 32 alliances in total.

Ok.
Group A = top 32.
Rank = group 1
Rank 2 = group 2
Rank 3 = group 3
Etc etc
Rank 8 = group 8
Rank 9 = group 9...oh wait. There is no group 9....restarts to group 1.
Rank 10 = group 2.
Rank 11 = group 3.

Do this for top 32.
And that's your matchups.
1 vs 9 & 17 vs 25
2 vs 10 & 18 vs 26
3 vs 11 & 19 vs 27

Repeats for group b rank 33-192
Repeat for group C rank 193-768

After top 256 determined.
Power of alliances will be sorted by strength again and they will be matched in a similar fashion .
Very simple actually.

[worldly sable]

[terse agate]

But! In reality it isn’t!
Stronger alliances are in lower groups

[winter canyon]

I know they won't do anything to help us... it's been months already

[thorny plume]

Kinda yes, duck them people. But it gets a quick fix as soon as its us its convinent for

[digital glacier]

Dys registers 10 players.
Dyz ranks 300
Dyz is in group C.
Dyz demolishes the 3 in group C.
Dys will face top 100 in top 256 bracket.
🤷

[dense lance]

I think they're hoping if they wait long enough we'll shut up and yet also not go away

[digital glacier]

Group b

50% of ranks 33-192 WILL NOT MAKE THE TOP 256 PLAYOFFS
25% of ranks 193-768 WILL MAKE THE TOP 256 PLAYOFFS

An alliance knowing they're strong. But maybe not top 32 strong. Could easily not register full team to be in group C to advance to top 256. 🤷

[spark kindle]

Yes exactly and this really boils my blood

[digital glacier]

Knowing how matchups for tournaments happen.
Knowing the rules.
Using this to your advantage.

Its no different than dropping out of leading state to get players to join you if you understand how the leading state status works 🤣

[mighty gorge]

You love it.....

[dense lance]

Sure you can, some alliance that made it into the last slot vs a really strong alliance is like the grade school football team vs the world cup players

[digital glacier]

Billionaire NFL team pays for best players in nfl

Multi millionaire players in sos create a mega millionaire alliance 🤷

How can't compare?

Same concept 🤷

[dense lance]

they're the world cup players in this analogy

[digital glacier]

1 vs 9 vs 17 vs 25
Umm.probably none of them. 😂

[mighty gorge]

Thats a yes and no answer. Conceptually you're right, but conceptually many of those teams wouldn't be in the same league

[digital glacier]

So much focus on dyz 😂

[dense lance]

Nope, your example was a much closer match

[mighty gorge]

Who?

[digital glacier]

Only 0.39% of alliances will fight dyz in the top 768 tournament.
Dyz =0% the reason your alliance does not make the top 256 tournament 😂

[digital glacier]

many. But especially that guy @steel musk

Ok. And?

[mighty gorge]

I meant to say Dyz who? 😆

[digital glacier]

Again
FBI will be 0% reason your alliance does not make top 256 🤷

[winter canyon]

If you run into DYZ and lose, then whatever. Not saying it's good matchmaking but they don't really have any unfair advantage (except for some non-gen skip players who transfered there)

[dense lance]

Kinda funny we actually did match their legion 2 and I was pretty happy how that went, and didn't feel like it was worth being super up in arms about

[winter canyon]

Different when gen 12 is against gen 17🙄
That's like allowing men in women's sports... or adults in a child soccer tournament

They won't do anything anyway... it's been so long already

What do you mean there's no strong or weak

[dense lance]

We play a game that's basically a calculator with a pretty GUI, it does kinda matter

[winter canyon]

They have done nothing to fix matchmaking

Just play against the odds... and do your best

Even if your gen skip heroes are destroyed at water tanks and the matchmaking is awful... have they done anything to fix it?

[digital glacier]

Would definitely say there's a strength difference there 🤣

Gen skip, 3 months, not much of an issue 🤷

[winter canyon]

It's very much an issue...

[dense lance]

the skips at issue though are more like 9 to 12 months

well, 36 to 48 weeks

[terse agate]

🤣😂🤣😂 I have been trying for 9 months, so perhaps someone of the newer cross gen states can take over

[dense lance]

more complaining is good complaining in this kinda thing

[cosmic tulip]

If only there was more support when the 1st limitless gen skip states were shouting about it. Perhaps the rest of the community wouldn’t be affected now. Sigh.

[dense lance]

yes, but keep in mind the opponent hasn't changed, welcome new people on your side to the fight

[winter canyon]

Take a f2p from gen skip state and another f2p from a non skip state. The difference is huge

[dense lance]

The amount of skipping is increasing and the help to catch up has gotten much, much worse

[winter canyon]

Main march: Blue brain gen 13-17 vs. 3 full purple brain 13-17
2nd march: Gen 12 vs 3 full purple brain 13-17

For the rest don't even think about it... that unfair advantage means F2P in cross gen state has no chance fighting for water tanks

[cosmic tulip]

Is that to me? I’m from the 1st generation of gen skipped. I can relate to the horrors of seeing your settlement burn in a flash when your defence is gen 12.

[pallid willow]

Does anyone know if we will be using this coins for bet at finals or something?

[digital glacier]

Yes

There's always betting.

[dense lance]

More a general thing, I guess I'm just saying from our end it feels like there's a lot of people who would say "I told you so, you should have helped us"

[digital glacier]

What's your 2md march look like 🤔

[winter canyon]

Gen 11🤣

[dense lance]

I do have to wonder what your gen 12 march looks like if blue brains are better

[digital glacier]

And what gen was released when you gen skip?

[dense lance]

they went from 12 to 17

[winter canyon]

4 generations

[digital glacier]

Ok. Still in the initial 3 month.... It sucks phase 😂

[cosmic tulip]

I guess, but in this case it’s true. Dev’s have tweaked it a little from our experience and from the next batch. The whole situation sucks and very demoralising.

[dense lance]

I know for us (12 to 16) we looked at age of outreach and stuff as like "oh man that would have been awesome"

[cosmic tulip]

Or I can say there is light at the end of the tunnel 9 months in

[dense lance]

we got bundles with 15 to 20 (gen 13) capsules for $5 (or you could take 10 potions instead of a capsule)

[cosmic tulip]

Yep. Agree.

[winter canyon]

The F2P from cross gen stands no chance against F2P from older states. Still it is possible to win against the odds, but it's much more difficult to do so

[cosmic tulip]

We only got that 5 months in. So the process is improving. But still needs a lot of work.

[dense lance]

actually the 12 to 17 people apparently got a 1 time event with tickets that lasted a week, or so I hear

[cosmic tulip]

Nice!

[dense lance]

So the plane reversed vertical course

[winter canyon]

But it's been so long and they have done nothing
Just see how it goes😅

[cosmic tulip]

Keep shouting, it won’t improve you but it improve the process for the next batch

[waxen prawn]

@runic elm Saw your report about not seeing the linked heroes in report. I agree it is bad, but you can find it if you check the "Comparisons" Tempest arms. there you can find out what heroes are bhind the reosnators

[dense lance]

^ this

It's too late for us probably but without sufficient whinging about it they'll keep doing it

[digital glacier]

DD this soon after gen skip is bad. No denying that.

[dense lance]

Just imagine when they skip the current gen 12 states to 18 🤣

[digital glacier]

In 3 months, you'll be easy less burdened, in 6 months almost no burden. I'm 9 months, it won't matter 🤷

[cosmic tulip]

I would have thought the protected status of cross states events should have been in force for DD.

[dense lance]

It actually seems like they take off the matching restrictions after the first 12 weeks

So we're out of our reservation now

Also the matching restrictions (at least for us) never went in on events where you pre-register marches

[winter canyon]

It hasn't been 9 months though

[digital glacier]

I didn't skip hero gen. So I had the chance for 13.14.15.16.17
That's what... Gen 13 was out for a long time it seemed like in my state 🤷 could be wrong. But that's easily 12 months +....
Here's my 3rd march

[winter canyon]

It's been 9 months since they first pulled the gen skip to the first group of states, and they keep doing it to the next groups. They have done nothing at all to help cross gen states

[digital glacier]

In 6 months + 1 day. Your 3rd march won't have Behemoth. 😂 So, useless

[runic elm]

Thanks. Yeah I saw that but hope they put it on the first page. Such a pain searching for it

[dense lance]

with MIGO and the new vehicle you can have 3 w/ aviation and behemoths though

[digital glacier]

Stop trying to get all heroes to a decent rank and focus on getting less heroes better 🤷

Survival of the fittest.

[tropic mesa]

I agree with this! The best way to get results it to keep submitting feedback and support and upvote things!

[digital glacier]

Adapt and overcome or always cry about gen skip 😂

[dense lance]

I actually agree with that a lot

[digital glacier]

And how many f2p unlock this in the first 10 weeks 🤷

[dense lance]

this is strategic whinging to benefit those who come after

[dense lance]

none at all, of course

not everything is about F2P

[digital glacier]

Ok then
Not a concern 🤷

Any f2p who unlocks 3rd behemoth is outright.... Umm..... Not smart.

[winter canyon]

So stupid of me to even complain... I guess I will just shut up until the 12 heroes we missed become obsolete anyways and we have the same main, 2nd and 3rd march as old states

[dense lance]

agreed there, not a good strategy

[runic elm]

Picking 1 hero per drop is the easiest way now. Next gen upgrade the one that’s farthest behind. To much going on with new plane, new hero’s, new carrier, new tempest gear, new migo, new frontier etc etc. and it won’t be long until they drop a new monkey

[digital glacier]

I didn't gen skip. I spend 1000 potions to upgrade trish.
I can't get unless I spend $ 🤷

Would you prefer to switch places? 😂

[runic elm]

I don’t think a true f2p can even unlock the 3rd monkey

[dense lance]

Mildly fun but it's like taking an old beat up honda accord and loading it with features

[cosmic tulip]

There answer to this is money, sadly. They claim to put in measures to remove the burden, but forget 99% of events. There answer for everyone else is time..

[digital glacier]

You can.

[dense lance]

it would need more math than I'm willing to do, but I think somebody who saved up migo coins could probably do it

[dense lance]

if Mustafa says it's doable he's probably actually done the math I'm opting out of

[tropic mesa]

I absolutely love all the on going discussions! But I want to kindly ask that since this channel is to about feedback I’m hoping we can Quickly switch to https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/925534219780907058

[runic elm]

Yeah I guess if ya save up coins and microchips from previous migos it could happen

[digital glacier]

The book is almost complete able now with the new badges and the new rewards from the outpost building.

[winter canyon]

I'd rather have 3 full purple brain that you had a year to upgrade😅

[runic elm]

It sucks to do it first but the key to ease is doing the part cost reduction ones first and then go back

[winter canyon]

I have nothing at the moment regarding heroes

[digital glacier]

Minimum REQ to unlock Behemoth 3 is doable in roughly week 9 now. But need decent rank in event.
Otherwise.
Top 50/200 bloodsport / svs
Can be done about week 10, give or take

$15 and treasure dig luck and you can complete the book.

Every stage target you miss is a portion of a bundle you need to buy (for those missed items)

So, instead of $1000 to max book. Can be done for like $50 🤷

Or 30 🤷 depending on your targets you hit.

[runic elm]

Yeah. Doable now I guess. Definitely not advised for f2p, low to mid spenders. I’d rather my members get all of the cheap part stuff so they can stock up on survival guide points which work outside of migo also

[digital glacier]

Gen skip cry about heroes, but heroes are least of your concern. But everyone focus on heroes 😂

[winter canyon]

But that's the reason I'm losing battles

[digital glacier]

It was doable last season. But just took an extra week to unlock Behemoth 3 😂 but 1-2 potential weeks of 3 behemoths totally not smart. Cost vs book points like you said 😜

[winter canyon]

What am I supposed to do if I can't hold water tanks?

Wait 9 months so I can have equal heroes? But DD is already over...

[digital glacier]

Behemoth 3 cost 11,549
After today ends (14 days completed) 12,380 earnable with all tasks completeable by using tokens. Not including outpost / free collection materials, treasure digging

@runic elm

@winter canyon what state you in?
What is your doomsday letter and # bracket?

[winter canyon]

It's been 3 months since gen skip and I still don't have a single good hero so...

[digital glacier]

That doesn't answer the question I asked 🤷

I'm guessing group C.

AMD The number 🤔

[pallid willow]

Alright then i won’t spend them yet ty

[digital glacier]

Alliance 🤔

You're mst. 🤷

You're alliance didn't know. Or didn't take advantage of the situation. You have a 50% chance not making top 256.

[winter canyon]

I want to support my team. But when I can hold 1 water tank at most, I feel so bad...
I keep trying to find out why I lose the water tanks, and it turns out it's lack of heroes

[digital glacier]

.

.
Just curious to know your group and number because this is all I was gonna say about that 😂

Doomsday if group A you will 90% chance see top 32.

Doomsday if group B you will have 50% chance to see top 256
10% chance to see top 32

Doomsday if group C you're mostly just there to feel included in the event 😂

DD isn't designed for weak players. Even the 20th, definitely the most weakest in a strong (normal strong not dyz strong) alliance.

The weaker ones aren't meant for gathering 🤷

If that's your alliances plan... 50% they lose making it to the top 256. 😂

[winter canyon]

I'm not going to say any plans or anything here.

All I want to say is that I want to help and contribute in DD. But I get really sad when I can't do much because of this ridiculous hero gen skip that makes me weaker than the 3rd march of an average f2p in older states...

[digital glacier]

My 3rd march. I didn't skip 🤷

It's not that strong. The just barely above purple 😂

Well. Robert is ok. Upgrade wise. Lan just purple. Grimm... Well. He was general before the changeover

[winter canyon]

Really? I ran into full purple brain heroes every time and it took me 3 marches to kick... and they kicked me with 1 march again

Are you sure that's your 3rd?😅

[viscid ore]

What's the point of having Doomsday group A compete if they all pass anyway?

[stiff ether]

If you see them spending 600k biocaps for these pointless matches… it‘s all about conceit I guess.

[viscid ore]

they might as well say, they are VIP and move forward anyway

[winter canyon]

For fun?🙈

And coins?

[viscid ore]

At least the last one in group A would have been right to exclude, considering that it is last

and it would have been correct towards the other groups too

[stiff ether]

I just saw DIE on strike today, they didn’t participate at all

[viscid ore]

I saw it too

but rightly...

what's the point of wasting bio and more

[stiff ether]

Agree

[viscid ore]

however they are qualified

so I say it's not correct

Today I burned a capital in Bio and reloc!!

[digital glacier]

So, you mean red heroes then 🤔

[digital glacier]

Tokens for store rewards. 🤷
A taste to see what they're up against in the forest 3 fights for the top 32 round 🤷

[winter canyon]

Yeah

[digital glacier]

And you know its their 3rd march because they didn't have Behemoth 🤷

[winter canyon]

I hit 3 different tanks of the same guy

All red heroes🤷🏼‍♀️

[digital glacier]

And they're f2p 🤷

I mean. I could have 3 red heroes each type as a spender 🤷

[winter canyon]

By their lethality/HP, behemoth, aircraft, yes

[digital glacier]

Spends $100 a week on heroes, not on other stuff 🤷

Vs spends $100 a week on behemoths 🤷

Not everyone spend smart 😂

73 players in my alliance don't have more than 1 red hero (if they even have 1) 🤷

[pine pendant]

The point is to give an intern a chance to create a worst system then the previous one 😂

[digital glacier]

Copy paste formula.

I have Death Day match. Time to get my 180k 🤷
I'll have to read your book resort later Liz 😂

[winter canyon]

They need actual devs... not interns😅

[pine pendant]

Actual Devs are working on SoC 😅

[winter canyon]

SoC?

[stiff ether]

State of Consumption

[still tapir]

Did not know that SoC was a "new game" 😂

[tardy night]

SoC is the newest one

[empty oxide]

This server is dedicated to State of Survival and no talk about other games is allowed per the server rules. #📖︱server_rules message

[winter canyon]

Probably too late... but anyways: Please don't put cross gen states into the same Doomsday category as states who didn't skip generations...

[empty oxide]

I think this has been submitted as feedback. Let me check if I can find it for you 🙂

If not, I'd happily help you to submit it as feedback.

There doesn't seem to be a feedback report on this. If you'd like, you can DM me and we'll type up a report 🙂

[still tapir]

It seems my comments about the app crashing 13 times in two hrs was deleted. Did it hurt FP devs feeling?

[empty oxide]

Sorry to hear that. Would you like to continue the discussion about the buggy experience? Let's head over to #🐞︱bugs-discussion

[still tapir]

Well feedback is SoS servers are trash 😉

[woven spire]

You realize A only has 32 right?

Then you can better drop your score to B if last place dont go in

Rewards are same

[viscid ore]

so what?

why not compete in elimination like the others?

[woven spire]

Because B have way more alliances

lol

Just look at the groups

This is more then fair. Although the system is bs

And not like A has a chance with dyz lmao

[stable cosmos]

So the clock in the pc version is attached to the timer for things. Thats par for the course. Do wonder though, why is there a day for "matching" when its obviously decided well in advance as per bug abuse

[woven spire]

They should have made DD like previous one

That was fun and fair

Not this crap

[viscid ore]

Ok, and we understood this, but it is the system that is wrong

why make a group of "VIP" alliances!!

[woven spire]

Yes but with this system its fair. Excluding last place A isnt

[viscid ore]

No that's not right!!

[woven spire]

That would mean A only get 24 alliances in while b and c get waaaaaay more

[viscid ore]

No that's not right!! look at DIE for example!!

[woven spire]

How is that fair?

Whats wrong with die?

[viscid ore]

they didn't play at all, they lost and they still qualified!

This is what I don't think is correct

I mentioned DIE as an example!!

[woven spire]

Ye proving my point

A is even more stupid matchmaking

Cause die would demolish B

The whole system is messed up. But this is the way with this one

The rewards are to low

The range way to big

[viscid ore]

I still think that it is not fair towards alliances that are in other groups, which have used a lot of resources in terms of bio and reloc to pass

[woven spire]

Okay nice alliance in A used alot of money

And get matched with FBI and Dyz

Maybe should replace a B alliance with DIE see what happens 😂

Bet then its crying again

[viscid ore]

don't think that there aren't some in other groups too!!

There are big spenders from me too

however, this discussion leads to nothing...anyway we all know who will compete for the title!!

lol

[woven spire]

You just dont understand it how unfair it would be to exclude 1 on A. While there is super strong alliances in B and more that can advance. Take it this way. Exclude 1 a and switch the strongest of B for the weakest of A. Bet you be complaining if you in 1 of those

Doomsday should have been like the first one

But this is correct with A B C. Although yes. We know who wins who advance. There will be little to no suprises

[viscid ore]

I'm not complaining

I've never done it!

[woven spire]

Not as big as die

Die combined spend probally more then your state if you not in A

[viscid ore]

I just expressed my thoughts which are different from yours

but I think it's equally respectable

[viscid ore]

I mentioned Die so as not to say XYZ

Don't make it personal

[woven spire]

Thats not personal -_- thats countering your argument

Ok if you express your thoughts.. explain whynits "correct" without bringing it as a fact

I told you. Everyone in A would qualify in B. While now some get demolished because the strenght different is crazy. A has less alliances then both C and B who advance and by far the most people will look at A

The rewards are the "same" while thata unfair for A And b

[viscid ore]

Ok u are right

[woven spire]

They should have made DoomsDay like first one. With A B C D E ect.... with less bigger range. That was fair

This isnt fair for anybody

Outside dyz and fbi

[pallid willow]

But they should delete from qualifiers top 3-4 from group A too tho why we need the 4 mfkers advancing what’s even the point of A existing then😂

[viscid ore]

From the beginning of the discussion I have been saying that the System is wrong and unjust

[still tapir]

Yeah that is what I was expecting. What group are you in A or B? I assume A

[viscid ore]

Me too

[still tapir]

But I wish it was the old DD match format.

[viscid ore]

and if we are not in group "A" I don't think it is due to how much we spend

is that in SOS there are children and stepchildren...

[woven spire]

A not very happy tho😂

This stuff aint fun at all

Devs are just ridicilous

Playing against lvl 7 selina angelica max skills

Full Orange tankd

47 t rex

8 angelicas in 1 rally

Have fun

[tardy night]

A is highest registered RR score?

Which is pretty much correlated to the spending of those folks within if you take out the history factor

[still tapir]

So DIE sat out? I'm guessing they played FBI since they are in the same bracket right?

[woven spire]

Yes

Die did also play against that

Fbi is same bs

Go match dyz fbi together and leave the rest alone

Even val has good matches

And val is strong

[still tapir]

Good I'm B. I don't want to burn those that I know 😉

[woven spire]

But dyz wouldnt even let val get 120k water

[viscid ore]

not entirely!!

[still tapir]

best of seven match

[tardy night]

It will never be a 100% correlation. Just a significant weight of the score can be attributed to spending

[viscid ore]

in our case we had different mergers and ways of playing but we didn't always win RR

but we also have good sspenders

[tardy night]

79/80 will still see 80 placed in grade A and 79 gets a B - the thing with how any sort of grading goes.

[woven spire]

I can tell you a full maxed behemoth rallys does 200K ON FBI with selina and angelica😂

Same on dyz

[tardy night]

Fs etc all same? Monkey is having less significant contribution now with all the new crap

[woven spire]

You might find it funny

But tempest did nothing

20 rounds was done

Healing bastion is best lmao

Rising valor did 0

[tardy night]

Which one you used?

[woven spire]

They all use full gen 17

With ultra skills

[tardy night]

Against Donald?

[woven spire]

Rising valor x4

Did nothing

Since low rounds

[tardy night]

Ya only Donald would trigger it. If rounds of battle too few he applies burn only 1 or 2 times

So anyone front loading damage could on paper do better ig

[woven spire]

They have donald + burn gear 😂

But if its only 20 rounds

Rv does nothing

[tardy night]

When is his burn applied? 10th round or something?

[woven spire]

Dont know

But not fast enough😂

[still tapir]

I mean that is just boring.

But like said if I got match against an alliance like those I would even play and tell my people to enjoy the day because I know how they will play. Just dominate

[cosmic tulip]

How will Koth work with DD’s running? Pick 1 of 5 slots with surprise surprise the only slot given for DD 😂

[ancient stratus]

Megaphone in Source of strife/Migo chat is stupid

[fiery basin]

I wish there was a mute button there sometimes lol. But feel free to submit feedback in #📋︱feedback-reporting by using the template provided in #📋︱feedback-how-to or i can also help you

[ancient stratus]

What is important enough to be broadcasted to every player?

It´s only used for spam.

[ancient stratus]

I've done that multiple times in the past.

[woven spire]

Koth wont work

No worries

Its bugged

Like rr leg 2

[fiery basin]

Absolutely agree. You rarely have mindful broadcasts by people 🫠 a way is to just block the people that do this on a regular

[ancient stratus]

State is one thin, but Migo is bs.

[cosmic tulip]

😂 DD was laggy as hell today. I can only imagine koth will only crash and burn if asked to run at the same time

[ancient stratus]

It's a flaw

[woven spire]

I think rr is laggy since mm is gone. Where do you live Island?

Country

Cause some dont have lagg at all.. so i guess its the servers

[ancient stratus]

nr three blocked today

[cosmic tulip]

UK. So quite possible …

[ancient stratus]

I have more blocked people here than in any other social media platform....

[worldly sable]

Do you have a hard time ignoring small things

[austere spoke]

Theres no DD match planned next Sunday. Should be koth. But in ptr we couldnt register for koth as we were in doomsday

[tropic mesa]

RR was not lagging for me today. The one event I always have issues with is KoTH and I did with MM also but now that MM has been taken away it’s just KoTH

[tropic mesa]

I agree the broadcasts can be annoying sometimes. I will sometimes send a message to person or persons and ask them if they could stop please. But blocking is also an option. I am an R5 so blocking people is less easy for me because I like to have all lines of communication open

[tropic mesa]

As someone who doesn’t like KoTH I will say LUCKY

[winter canyon]

They should add a cooldown for broadcasts

So spammers won't get to spam in migo chat

[tropic mesa]

That would definitely be a good idea maybe that’s something you could suggest! You could put in as feedback here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606
Using the the same method found here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110341802520748132

[mighty gorge]

They should just remove migo chat. Period

It's a harbour for the galactically moronic

[tropic mesa]

That would make me sad in one way. I have friends from other states and we all get on there and chat together have a little chat party

[mighty gorge]

I do too. There is a little known thing though, called discord.

I don't discount there are a few people there that behave, but the vast majority are idiots

[tropic mesa]

Yes but you have to admit when your in game doing your tasks and talking it’s easier then going back and forth from app to app. Unless you have a PC that for you it’s a whole cake 🎂

[mighty gorge]

It's like it attracts the use of speaker for no reason whatsoever. Its actually worse than when we had those points banners

[mighty gorge]

I have both open on PC

[tropic mesa]

Maybe another idea could be removing the megaphone from the MIGO chat all together

[tropic mesa]

See for you it’s easier, I play on mobile

[mighty gorge]

Now that I agree with.

[tropic mesa]

I think that should go in to the feedback

[mighty gorge]

I feel like I need the "do not press the button" meme now

[mighty gorge]

It could you're right, if I though for one minute and 4 years of experience it would make one iota of difference.

[prime hound]

I would 🔼 vote that

[tropic mesa]

I have put in the feedback so please feel free to upvote it #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[tropic mesa]

I posted it

[prime hound]

I voted

[tidal apex]

Another resonating vouchers without universal fragment in it.... Kinda makes it pointless because all heroes in it not worth the effort or money needed to build them 😒

[tropic mesa]

I agree it’s frustrating not having the general ones!
Luckily someone had already put in feedback about that here #📋︱feedback-reporting message please feel free to upvote it!

[stable cosmos]

Quietly change the migo megaphone to 400000 bios rather than 400. They might do it cos it'll make money off people buying bios to use it

[spice saffron]

Yeah, kinda what they did to the troop tasks in TD lol

[pallid willow]

“Quietly” sounds hilarious

[woven spire]

Just wait till MM comes back

@tardy night had nice idea where you need to buy to heal troops

[gritty fiber]

Oh the uproar if that were to happened would be deafening

[woven spire]

It will😂

[worldly sable]

This game is in dire need of training dummies to test damage

[carmine gorge]

alliance throwdown

[dense lance]

I'd really love a feature where 2 people could voluntarily send a "test march" via chat to test their marches against each other, without real injury (via chat so you could do it across states)

[quiet crest]

SvS matching been sucking last two times, state merged once vs several times merged states

[dense lance]

Oh wait it has to be monetization friendly, you get so many for free per day and then you have to pay.

[worldly sable]

There’s no reliable way to test all these stupid new features without leaving alliance which compromises other events, such as trap

Also we can’t rally a tent

So we can’t truly test rally buffs

The alternative is to burn down random state players which is dumb

[dense lance]

You'd have to do a tower

[worldly sable]

Then you’d have to join an alliance adjacent to yours

[dense lance]

Or have friends in the next alliance over, yeah

[worldly sable]

And someone still misses trap

[dense lance]

Honestly a feature where we could just do voluntary test marches would be way cooler and better anyways

[worldly sable]

A test dummy where you could set parameters would be awesome

One per alli

[dense lance]

what if you could feed it a report also, to set the stats

[worldly sable]

They can even take my idea into their next game and be better for it

[dense lance]

instead of a bunch of annoying sliders that would probably crash right when you got them where you wanted them

[worldly sable]

No, make it fixed whenever you set it

You choose heroes, TA, etc

Only R4/R5 can change

[dense lance]

Yeah I mean like you could do a custom setting, or you could put a button on the report to mirror your opponent

more both/and than either/or

[wooden dew]

Hi Auto, that’s an interesting idea. I agree with both you and Lisa, that being able to easily test released features (in live) would be informative as to what’s worth upgrading and what is less worth. Testing shouldn’t end in PTR but rather be an ongoing, iterative process imo. I like the suggestion of being able to do that cross state through chat - it’d be a huge improvement over having to setup random attacks, bounce around alliances, etc. Thanks for sharing. I’ll forward it.

[worldly sable]

Thank you

[worldly sable]

A test dummy would be nice to be able to test it, js

Same lol

[tardy night]

Not even joking. That's what they did already. Those crystal mines? They give materials to heal to progress in the map, and heal troops. Run out of troops and you pay to heal by buying those materials you can mine. Always gonna run out 😂

Just not here yet. Their older stuff has this for 1 year or so now

This latest version they hiked price to heal/research by 4x. Crystal mines will be monetized more slowly here too.

Lazy enough about the copy paste that Mia skill still says knight provides heal. Lol knight

[pallid willow]

Heroe challenges is ridiculous at level 6k😒 why every single thing in this game gotta be sooooo fkn difficult to achieve

[dense lance]

If you find a combination of heroes that works, it's not too bad, but I used to hate it too

Mia + Chukon is working surprisingly well, considering he has to be close enough to sneeze on zombies

[stable cosmos]

I just struggle with the stupid snowball throwers. They'd be fine if they had to be on screen to fire. But they can shoot while invisible, they're tankier than some bosses and they deal more damage than anything that isn't a ground stomper

[pallid willow]

My chukon 0% and im already using donald at 0% 😂 so far with olly and joker was alright but the zombies damaga is ridiculous

[white turret]

Bruh. I just found out how that stupid KOTH matchmaking works. That’s on par with migo matchmaking. Silly devs not even knowing the own game mechanics of there own game

[pallid willow]

Right after dealing with those mofkers im useless against the stompers 😒

[stable cosmos]

Enough puppets, and you make sure you heavy stock infected damage reduction decrease and rider damage and you can generally kill them before they hit the ground. Maddies pipe bomb interrupts them. Never take slowdown or confuse though. They'll ground pound from off screen if you do that because its on a sodding timer,not on range

[pallid willow]

I do all that except the speed reduction 🙈 but cause the blue mofkers destroy me if i dont slow them out

[digital glacier]

Very bad idea

[digital glacier]

No it's not 😂

[digital glacier]

Anyone could have done this. 2 alliances I know purposely lowered their registration to be in lower bracket.

[digital glacier]

The gap with a b C D E F G was worse actually if you know how the system actually worked.

If you absolutely must. I can share you the sheet I have with the alliances. But really though it's the exact same format
A1 B2 C3 D4 E5 F6 G7 H8
Same format.
32 alliances sorted by power.
Rank 1 a
Rank 2 b
Rank 3 C so on so fourth.

Current doomsday
768 sorted by power.
Group A, 8 brackets, 4 alliances in a bracket.
Repeat above....
...

Group a
Rank 1 @1
Rank 2 @2
Rank 3 @3 so on so fourth.
It has the same setup.
More alliances are allowed this time than last time. Thus. The grouping for a is essentially the top 32 teams which is the groups for a-1 = a A2=b A3=C etc etc.

[pallid willow]

So how can an account with trash behemoth have 7k stats?

[digital glacier]

Complains about huge gaps in powers. But group a is the top 32 registered alliances.
Mentions an a team alliance going to a b team group. 🤷 That's not possible now. To late. 😂 Next season it could happen. But how many b team alliances will do this next season because 50% of ranks 33-192 won't progress to top 256?
Id rather drop from a b to a C than play in b
Problem is however. You're sacrificing to become a lower bracket. And once the top 256 get finalized. Their power will be sorted again and matched accordingly.
So a top 32 dropping to become a 33rd rank. Could end up fighting dyz / FBI on their 2nd matchup after tip 256.
C has a higher probability to fight them.
So, you run the risk too.
If you're in a group. You have a security window for guaranteed not to fight them.
Group A has Tougher competition for them to earn winning rewards for the matchup. # whale alliance problems 😂
So, yeah.
Doomsday isn't about the individual match rewards. It's about the overall event.
If your focus is on individual match rewards, you're not playing DD for the right reasons.

[digital glacier]

For how many categories?

Sr?

[pallid willow]

Royale yea

At the very beginning as p10

[digital glacier]

New tempest arms have what almost 200% attack or defense.
× 12 per hero.
2400 + 4500 original stats
🤷
That's 6900 right there

So, 7500 believe able.
Some spend for good stats.
Some spend for behemoths
Some spend for decorations
Some spend on a little bit of everything.
Some spend tons on everything 🤷

Give a homeless person $20 and tell him to get something good to eat at the local diner
Then.
Try to Give a billionaire $20 and tell him to get something good to eat at the local diner

Reactions you get will be very different 😂

[pallid willow]

A farm doesn’t spend 😂

Well whatever trash game anyways

[olive sluice]

I know a few crazy spenders which not only have one big account...
One of them has a main as rally lead, a sub main as strong joiner, and 4 farms, and each of the farms is a mid spender on it's own.
And then the same setup in a second state. 🤣

[pallid willow]

Yea i think this case is just an ex spender abandoned account taking care of

[tame jackal]

I wanted to understand why we were paired with people with a level 80+ collection, with the strongest in our state being level 65

[olive sluice]

SoS math

The difference between those two might only be like $200k 🤣

[vernal moss]

Hi chief, the matchmaking can always do with more improvements. The algorithm may have balanced it out on the average, even if a couple overpower your states strongest which can be the issue.

I’d encourage you to make a post about the matchmaking system in #📋︱feedback-reporting but please do read #📋︱feedback-how-to before doing so.

[mighty gorge]

Wait, you're basing your matchmaking on their decoration levels 😳

It's different, for sure. I'll give you that.

[tame jackal]

Nowadays what makes you lose or not a fight says a lot about the level of your collection, this is something obvious about this game nowadays

Of course it's not just that, but it's a big disadvantage

How will a level 65 and a level 63 win rallies against two level 80+? I think it's quite impossible

[thorny plume]

Quick question @merry scroll have you fixed it so we dont have duels at the exact time as doomsday next week ? Would be nice, k thanks.

[unreal lichen]

Im pretty sure they know that

[unreal lichen]

To lose, then to spend money on skins 😌

[tame jackal]

They are my friends, I don't want to ask them to sell their houses 🤣

[unreal lichen]

But yeah, this is the answer 😂

[gleaming kiln]

After the RR/DD start debacle, 2 weeks later they gave us some state task passes as a remediation, but they do not work in Fungal Migo.
There is no "Complete now" button. How are we supposed to use them?
I also wonder how is that supposed to help with the lost 50 glory points from previous stage that just ended?

[stable cosmos]

It'd be fine if higher collection was only a 1% buff. Its a 10%. Thats a massive advantage.

[thorny plume]

Has times for doomsday and duels been fixed ?

Or adressed

Id hate to keep sitting out duels as that will kind of be needed to get the full completion thing, think I need 6 million points or something like that

[still matrix]

We faced a lot of trouble as well due to AD and Doomsday on same day too. I kindly ask you to upvote this feedback using this link #📋︱feedback-reporting message, so hopefully we can get a fix for this situation

[worldly sable]

No, it’s more exciting to do both at the same time

[tardy night]

With the 70 who can't do DD, doing AD.

[worldly sable]

😍

[worthy bloom]

when event start, can't change it

so we will keep have DD / AD.. same day

for some... most won't qualify

[wide wraith]

with my alliance effectively out of DD after only the 2nd round @feral sinew what was the point of the event???

[worthy bloom]

old DD format was better

we already lost 2 on group B.. we out 😂

[wide wraith]

i still cant see the point of the event, with the lack of interest in it in the first place, its just for whales

[woven spire]

Just for whales?

Just for dyz and fbi

😂

[wide wraith]

no paid employee seems to know why it was decided to run it again, after the failure of DD last year, this years has proven to be exactly the same

[near mesa]

Let me down vote it so y’all don’t have to fix it

😹

[woven spire]

Last year? That wasnt vader was it?

Less big range and everyone fough "own strenght"

Also decent rewards with silver coins

[worthy bloom]

yes was better

compared with this DD

[fresh rover]

Yes exactly last years doomsday was much better (aside from fact that it didnt have leg2) and liked by most, everyone fought in their own league, not this nonsense that happening now

[normal peak]

And you guys are surprised?

When has Scumplus done anything right?

[wide wraith]

well they got rid of MM

[worthy bloom]

less work for them. could focus on release futures

[wide wraith]

no just to get rid of most of the other stuff like

CC, POW, SR

and most importantly scrap Throwdown

[worthy bloom]

we used to fight on cc in beginning... but now sshh

[wide wraith]

now its just fixed, alliance A will win this week, Alliance B will win next time etc

a total waste of time

[worthy bloom]

I hope they slowdown on futures as much as they do with fix bugs 😹

[wide wraith]

maybe in some alternate dimension but not a cats chance in hell of them fixing any bugs in this one

[stable cosmos]

Thats so unfair. Think about their situation. They want more money. Why should we deny them that? Obviously they deserve more money for creating a garbage product.

[wide wraith]

fire the CMs there saved them money

fire the QA team as well

saved even more

[stable cosmos]

As far as i can tell they don't have a QA team.

[wide wraith]

well they are supposed too

[stable cosmos]

They've both outsourced to to PTR and are actively ignoring it anyway

[woven spire]

Mechanics dont allow fights anymore

Thats the issue

Only rr is a fight

Svs is rally vs rally whoever stronger wins

[stable cosmos]

Strategy is gone. Behemoth march, troops don't matter. Better monkey stack takes it and the only strategy is setting your march up in such a way to get 8 monkeys in

[woven spire]

Yep

Rr you still can win with good organization till certain strenght difference

[normal peak]

Remember when ghost rallies and double rallies meant something

[mighty gorge]

I think people have forgot what a ghost rally is

and double's seem non-existent

Its like people forgot how to use them, or what they are for

[normal peak]

Orr there are players where a double doesn’t even do anything against now

[mighty gorge]

Thing is, some people are spending crazy amounts of money. Look at this. This was my plasma yesterday and today. I had about 800+ Red Crystal also and used about 1000h+ of speeds .

I'm in 5th place as part of 1st stage of SvS prep with 12k points. The number one place has 49k!! Its insane.

[hollow pebble]

I see survivor royale is still the biggest pile of garbage

[normal peak]

I gave up trying to place in prep and sotf

I get my second rate Migo skin set from duels

[mighty gorge]

I know how much I spent to accumulate that the last week or two, and sure I get people save up for longer, but holy crap.

[stable cosmos]

How to play SR: pick up your houses stuff. Move on to a few other houses. Prioritise crystals. As soon as the gas shows up, die in the fog. You miss out on ranking prizes but it took 2 minutes AND you probably got as much stuff as you were likely to after 10 minutes

[thorny plume]

Ive upvoted several of those, but it doesnt help to only update. The developers have to actually do something about it. By the time this one is fixed migo season is soon over. Its gonna get harder and harder to get to 6 mil points so why arent they prioritizing and fixing this ASAP. Because it only hurts their players?

Its kind of bad when they cant adress a issue that important quicker then they currently are.
If the issue was affecting funplus they would have found a solution already as it is REALLY easy to fix. Odd and even hours..
Or different days

Real easy

But the will to adress issues that we struggle with seems to be low or non excistent

[woven spire]

Sadly they useless now

[thorny plume]

Doesnt really matter if you double or do quint rallies when the opponents today have maxed accounts with decent angelicas etc, that limits the state setters quite a bit.

[normal peak]

Yup…if we have opponents like that for svs now I just hunt and go back to sleep lol

No real need to wake up early and sit there

[thorny plume]

We always have opponents like that 😅 so its mostly futile, but we have a couple guys like that in state too.. so they are really the only ones who can tip the scale and they sometimes do. But doubles and ghosts etc is a forgotten tactic theese days since its futile unless you have Angelica or two extra somewhere

Developers wanted to make it more tactic and make gap smaller so they did excactly the opposite 😂

[hollow pebble]

I died after 5 minutes anyways, nothing to get because there are too many players, and if you encounter someone it's a whale without brain lol

Did it for Migo anyways

[thorny plume]

Just do 3 for migo and save rest of tickets till devs fix it again. Both matchmaking and that you now fight 40 is just silly

Its not worth doing anyways

[thorny plume]

@merry scroll can we get some feedback on this or are we planning on doing another week where players get the short stick ?

[hollow pebble]

That's what I did, not worth to do more anymore, devs will probably not even fix it because low priority if any

[viscid ore]

I hope DEV thought we will have KOTH on Sunday too

🙈

[mighty gorge]

I mean, maybe its just me? @vale yoke ?

[vale yoke]

My desire to know more has intensified

[mighty gorge]

😂

[vale yoke]

I have recruitment messages done in the style of Starship Troopers from like three years ago lol

But yeah, I can see it.

[mighty gorge]

I'm pretty sure now, one of the FP developers is just going through his 1990's movie collection

[vale yoke]

A reminder to our SoS community:
The only good bug is a dead bug.

[mighty gorge]

Matrix, Starship Troopers. Whats next; who elses IP are they going to steal

[vale yoke]

A reminder to the developers, hire an exterminator for your bugs because you can't seem to fix them.

[distant gull]

WTF?

[vale yoke]

I will squeak with excitement if I see anything from Event Horizon or Ghosts of Mars pop up. No Ghostface, though. Please no.

[distant gull]

Abbreviation isnt censored thanks god

[vale yoke]

Paywalls, paywalls everywhere. There's like four "events" like this.

[mighty gorge]

My eyes, my innocent eyes.

[vale yoke]

Literally no free access. We've sent feedback and voted it like crazy

[vale yoke]

Sir?

[mighty gorge]

Quick, mods, post a passive aggressive message about how inappropriate the SS is

[vale yoke]

[mighty gorge]

It feels like, or maybe its just possible that people could be, I'm not quite sure, entirely feasible, that...peoples patience is wearing very very thin

[distant gull]

So pathetic for F2P

[vale yoke]

Nijika, if you go to #📋︱feedback-reporting and search for the keyword "paywall", you'll find all the feedback about this. You can also form your own if you want to make a fresh post for people to support.
Idk if it will help but it can't hurt if you're interested.

[mighty gorge]

Whats a paywall, we don't have those, nothing to see here, move along please

[vale yoke]

Stg I keep waiting for some employee to say something like, "they aren't paywalls, they're premium events with incentives for players who choose to invest."

[silk heath]

Please keep posts and comments family friendly. Thanks

[distant gull]

I love being family friendly ❤️

Even an alliance name 🙂

[vale yoke]

I like you, Nijika

You're fun

[mighty gorge]

There is family friendly, and then there is absolute utter an* retentiveness

[winter canyon]

Another day, another P2W fake event
x2

[analog nymph]

One problem is that its not even event🤣

[vale yoke]

So .. could there also be a server announcement about this? Kthxbai

[still tapir]

Next migo will have a big boss that is liquid metal. 🤣

[strong grove]

Bad matchmaking

All our opponents were whales

[mighty gorge]

give it several months and it will say, we are terribly sorry to inform you, that due to ever decreasing revenue, primarily because are a bunch of moronic idiots that couldn't see the wood for the trees, we will be closing down SoS

[winter canyon]

It's been reported so many times... have they done anything yet

[spark swallow]

LOL F+ don't have enough money to keep it open😂

[silk heath]

Please keep comments and posts family friendly. Thanks

[vale yoke]

I wanna see what happens once that mail clicks with people lol

[spark swallow]

Me?🐸

[winter canyon]

"Events" lol

[vale yoke]

[spark swallow]

Who not being family friendly?

[winter canyon]

More like pay for a bundle

[spark swallow]

Oh and this game is not for children, it has gambling in it so it is 18+

[still tapir]

Well I was going to say FP are cheapskate and don't want ti give others their money but yours seems mire plausible.

[unreal lichen]

Im waiting

[winter canyon]

It said 12+ on App Store🙄

[vale yoke]

"we call it betting but it isn't real betting because the results are predetermined. And these are called slots but because of how our odds are coded, there really isn't any chance involved, so it isn't really gambling and those aren't really slots"

[spark swallow]

It should be 18+