#📋︱feedback-discussion

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wide wraith
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when will we be hearing about the availability of frags for the skipped Gens I know the Devs dont care about states in the 715 - 794 range

pearl pelican
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How many times did dev bless 697?😩

wide wraith
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it says the dreaded Valentines stalking event starts on the 12th

near juniper
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But tomorrow there could be the new MIGO for most states

wide wraith
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they shouldnt bother with it

jade minnow
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Thank You for reply:) So new migo, new heroes event should start at proper time right? I'm asking, because last 2 ones (opening migo and heroes) have some delays - I don't know if I should do any Sotf tasks to get points;)

near juniper
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If you were talking about the new hero gen, I'm sorry then, I misread your questionChickCry
But yes, tomorrow for Sotf it should be released the new hero genBlushFrog

wide wraith
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it needs a CM or Dev-Rep to be here to answer these questions instead of never being here until its too late

brisk pecan
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Yes! I’ll dm you 😌

stable cosmos
# wide wraith when will we be hearing about the availability of frags for the skipped Gens I k...

Gotta be honest, you won't. The other states this happened to never got anything. When gen7-12 went limitless we weren't told spit. They don't tell anyone anything really and rely heavily on the streamers from ptr for new events.

I would guess they'll do nothing for you. Check Groots feedback and next time shes here ask how that went. The answer is poorly but its par for the course with this company

wide wraith
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its a pity i cant merge with my old ptr account as that had limitless lol

stable cosmos
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Oh and i remain a little annoyed with the streamers when throwdown went live as the one i watched never looked at the targets, there would have been pre-release outcry if they had....

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Just looked at the tasks, which were then wrong anyway...

wide wraith
stable cosmos
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This was posted in our alliance discord for me.

feral kraken
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Well I guess im not going to get answers here

terse agate
terse agate
wide wraith
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only problem is i am one of the rally leads

terse agate
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Bundles 😬🤣😂

wide wraith
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ewwwww

terse agate
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You will have hero challenges tho

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They provide a decent amount

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But never to upgrade enough

wide wraith
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they dont take long, i remember the fried chickens from when gen 13 was in PTR

terse agate
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Make your choices upfront and only focus on the three that work together best

tiny quiver
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Shadow what gen are you on now ?

wide wraith
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12 going to 17

tiny quiver
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F they gen skipped for you

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Gen 14-16 have same stats only skill’s different

wide wraith
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yeah i know that from here but its when doing more than one rally

tiny quiver
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I would stick to gen 16 don’t I repeat don’t go for the new hunter his skills leave him open to temptest skills

wide wraith
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where we will have gen 12 second march others will have gen 16

terse agate
wide wraith
terse agate
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I have been talking to a brick wall for 8-9 months

tiny quiver
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Get as many frags from rays and try to raise at least 2 marches

stable cosmos
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It all goes to hell after limitless anyway

wide wraith
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got 265k for rays

tiny quiver
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You gonna need it

stable cosmos
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Previous gens were just "better" on release by like 15%. Limitless is more like 50%

tiny quiver
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Vouchers too

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I was so pushed when the pulled the gold frag crap they are pretty much worthless now

stable cosmos
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About the only good thing is 13-14-15 were made kinda equal

wide wraith
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also need to get my inf and riders to P12

terse agate
tiny quiver
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Yeah get your zoo up and plane that will help

stable cosmos
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Oh i know. Its just less painful for us down in f2p land

wide wraith
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they are not too bad as is my squadron

terse agate
stable cosmos
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I make no comment about that. I know it sucks

terse agate
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Then you are double scrwd

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In the beginning the F2P of old states are stronger then the secondary rally leads of the skipped states

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Especially the 2nd march

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🤣😂🤣

stable cosmos
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The only way it could have worked would have been giving the prior gens frags in addition to the current gen. So if you picked up carlos you also got jeb and lucky frags

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In the same numbers. And honestly i don't think the devs could code that

terse agate
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Even if they could code it

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🤣😂🤣

stable cosmos
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Bundle bundle. Bundles solve everything. Game balance. Revenue issues. All solved with bundles

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Game has a bug? More bundles

terse agate
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💯

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Tomorrow is gonna be problematic anyway……
New heroes and stuff.
And all of FP is having holidays.
If the game is gonna be a hot mess, it’ll take forever to get it solved, even longer then normally

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Soooooo, more bundles tomorrow, I guess 🤣😂🤣

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Last time they decided to launch AD during their holiday.
People lost troops and didn’t get them back after AD finished.
It took days for them to solve, no communication either.
Only because nearly everyone in FP was on holiday

stable cosmos
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Good way for all of them to dodge a mess until the player base calms down a little... at least, good from their point of view. In the wider scheme of things, incredibly stupid.

terse agate
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Poor mods had a huge task in calming everyone down.
I hope they took a few days off from their RL job starting tomorrow 🤣😂🤣

dense anvil
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Doomsday = big maj p2w shocked_froggie

knotty storm
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So... Question for the devs that are lurking around spying: This is what are we looking for in the future? All new states are gonna have gen skip?

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Are you trying to equalize the generations of heroes of the old states with the new ones?

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You realize that this is monumentally stupid? Right?

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They had years to work on development... There's no way the new states will ever be on equal footing....

steel musk
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could upgrad latest gen only

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do you still use gen 3 or 5 ? 🤔

knotty storm
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I'm not in any new state

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That doesn't mean i don't care...

tame lintel
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🤔

steel musk
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joiners could upgrad 1 march.. but yes It's different for rally leads...
need 2 marches at least.. or 3

knotty storm
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I just abandoned a few alts in some mid states for this very reason...

winter canyon
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There's really no way to survive with gen skip
Why bother taking this game seriously🤷🏼‍♀️

knotty storm
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Yeah, no i gave up on the game long ago, but i still have friends here

steel musk
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Gen skip it's too little compare with mess devs doing.. Behemoth, tempest arms, tanks

winter canyon
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Yes, just have fun with friends... why try to win when it's impossible🙄

unreal lichen
tame lintel
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Playing on sos timetable. Yes. Yall will be screwed over. By gen skip..

Play on your own timetable...its actually better.

steel musk
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But i am not with gen skip... I guess it's useless and stupid...
If they were doing that to fix balance... why DYZ got easy states in their Migo

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could give them FBI

knotty storm
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The devs are creating "super states" with the mergers, and the rest are fodder for them

winter canyon
steel musk
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yes hard to get 1 march decent in month for f2p

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if want max 1 hero ( stats only) , will need like 2 months

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as F2P

winter canyon
steel musk
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so f2p will need like 3 - 6 months to get decent march after skipping gen

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6 - 8 months if want your heros maxed on stats

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without enhancement

winter canyon
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We get 3 months

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GG

steel musk
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🤣🤣

knotty storm
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Then it's time for the next batch of states to get screwed over when the next gen is released.... 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

terse agate
winter canyon
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They didn't boost rewards by 5x for cross gen states

knotty storm
steel musk
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F2P dead in this game.. join strong state they will ask you to tap tap like bot...

winter canyon
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That tells us how much they hate cross gen state and want us to be ruined

terse agate
tardy night
terse agate
tardy night
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In PvP - Showdown, mayhem, duels, svs, heist, pow, koth

any of these had you matching older states instantly or all after 3 months?

winter canyon
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Showdown was instantly

terse agate
crystal iron
terse agate
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Heist too, I think

winter canyon
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I think svs, duel and koth had 3 months period

tardy night
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Duel and svs of course.

terse agate
tardy night
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So showdown, heist and pow instantly

Rest give 3 months.

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SR too?

terse agate
tardy night
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Survival royale

winter canyon
steel musk
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before we were get old state on RR. with heros we don't have

terse agate
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So, no clue

winter canyon
tardy night
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That one would have been for the 625+ crowd I guess if it happened

winter canyon
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At first it was unplayable but a month later it became possible to win again

terse agate
steel musk
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they keep increase gap btw f2p and big spenders

winter canyon
steel musk
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yes feel like bot

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that's why i don't doing pow anymore... just 10 battles..
even if still there rewards i don't care about it.. like if i took it will make different? don't think

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and another reason.. Pow need alot time..

terse agate
terse agate
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And basically I should shut up, because for us, the only way to get rewards is when we are matched against the newer cross gen states.
But still, we haven’t gotten the rewards we used to have back

steel musk
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wonder when they will change matchmaking on svs

terse agate
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Don’t expect help from the devs

steel musk
terse agate
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Yup, the struggle many of us had already

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Hun, I have been talking to a brick wall for 8-9 months now already

winter canyon
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That's already happening...

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To states 500-714

steel musk
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they care when quit or don't spend...

winter canyon
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They won't care

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Over the past year they did nothing to help cross gen states at all

steel musk
winter canyon
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It's been a year of feedbacks

ancient stratus
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A puzzle game in a war game....

terse agate
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Then 1,5 month ago

steel musk
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will get this message too much if didn't max all heros ( 5 gens)

terse agate
steel musk
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valentine's event soon

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as well

terse agate
steel musk
terse agate
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They had 2 years to change it or make a new event

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TWO YEARS wasn’t enough

steel musk
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they don't want change it.. they think by this way more will spend

dense lance
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The only answer we ever got skipping from 12 to 16 was that the cheap bundles were supposed to help, hopefully they do better by the 12 to 17 states... although there isn't much hope.

winter canyon
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They already lost 50% revenue compared to last year so...

steel musk
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yes will added it in collection sets also

ancient stratus
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I know, this game needs another puzzle game.... (sarcasm)

dense lance
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They could spin it as "We heard you! We finally updated the skin store!"

terse agate
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Basically, what I assume.
In the older states are a few major whales.
Giving them the best part of their revenue.
They just follow the cry of the whales and give them more cannon fodder by creating these cross gen states

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Yup, so give them cannon fodder to make them happy

ancient stratus
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Remove Koth and make MM one day event instead to be played on sundays

tardy night
ancient stratus
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Why not give the state a voting if they want to merge?

steel musk
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yes i guess.. alliance need 2 - 4 rally leads.. so rest could stop spend

tardy night
ancient stratus
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What about another tempest armor guys? 😆

terse agate
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But all the bundles so you MIGHT be able to get good arms🤣😂🤣😂

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Spenders are really annoyed about that.
And for a good reason

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It just shouldn’t be RNG

steel musk
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Devs : spend ton in auction

terse agate
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Well, a lot was spend in the auction

tidal apex
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There are bots placing bids?

steel musk
tardy night
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"spend" isn't the spend when some are sponsored and some are having 50% discounts. Don't take any game spending at face value.

pallid willow
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Make a limit of obtained stars at pow per day after diamond 😈😈😈😈😈

tidal apex
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This game have really unfair prizing policy, depending on where you live you can pay 50% less 🤣

terse agate
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With FP all is fair 😉🤣😂🤣😂

steel musk
terse agate
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Holiday now

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They always release new stuff during their holidays 🤣😂🤣

tardy night
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Maybe YouTube vids are the way. And LinkedIn/Twitter articles.

vagrant lance
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Well if I had fp income for a job executed as poorly as they do, I would be on a holiday 90% of the year🙋‍♂️🤷‍♂️

terse agate
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Nah, if FP doesn’t wanna spend a lot of money on salaries, then they also don’t get the best quality ?😬

tardy night
vagrant lance
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Yeah, but if they have built in the capita to the company, they can just milk it out

tidal apex
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Thats part of the problem. They keep on releasing untested crap that barely works and people some people still buy out whole ahop from bundles.

What message is this giving to FP? No need to care and make good updates, releasing crap makes us money anyway and is way cheaper...

vagrant lance
tardy night
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Nerfed Anjelica while at it

terse agate
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Players have been talking to a brick wall for 8-9 months now about this.
But yeah, you go and check with the devs.
Sounds as if you’ll solve it tomorrow 🤣😂🤣

knotty storm
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They need to make money with Selina too😒😒😒😒😒

vagrant lance
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And I honestly think the matchmaking algorithm is not broken, rather than the power gaps being so wide that you cannot even get a fair and even fight anymore. When you put a good rally leader and 7 good joiners in a rally, it is very very hard to find even matchups anymore

terse agate
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They assume we are all not normal people.
They assume we are kids that believe everything

still tapir
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If they are not a a migo group matching making is broken

tardy night
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It won't match them.

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Complaints happen from those 2, whichever one ends up losing.

terse agate
tardy night
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Not in their perspective. Two happy dumb whales crushing mids is better than 2 sad ones threatening to quit over matching equals and being made to try.

tidal apex
tardy night
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And the kind to ride a bandwagon is exactly why it happens. Cuz it's easiest mechanism in the game now to a victory.

vagrant lance
tidal apex
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People spend to feel strong and win, if you spenr 500k $ only to be always matched against other who spent similiar you would not feel powerfull

still tapir
tidal apex
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So they matvh you against people who you can destroy in 1 hit

still tapir
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But of course people do and did🤣

tardy night
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Everyone else cheers from the sidelines

vagrant lance
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I am in a quite decent alliance, and we pretty much know the outcome even before the battle has begun 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

tidal apex
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This game must have so many millionaires playing it....

tardy night
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Lmao.

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If you truly believe that....

winter canyon
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Pay 2K per week to be burned... that's pay to loseshocked_froggie

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But 2k a week should make you a 2nd lead? That's like 10k a month?

ancient stratus
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😆

woven spire
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Depends what allianxe you in

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But 2k a month makes you a second lead maybe...

tardy night
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What about In Dyz? 😂

woven spire
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I would be f2p there

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😂

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But those alliances all you need is maxed behemoths

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So maybe its cheaper😂

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Although they think angelica and selina stack in rallys but we need to ask saber this

still tapir
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How hard they have to fight one another for first place.

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So I officially know it wasn't my phone that causes the game 6 times already. Twice durning trap and 4 times in rr. I'm using a brand new Samsung ultra

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Nice officially know it was my old potato of a phone. BlushFrog

spark kindle
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Unless you're using tech you inherited from grandma, it's never your phone or pc or whatever device you're using

still tapir
spark kindle
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Sadly yes but we all know it's the potato servers

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Not that they'll ever admit though

tiny quiver
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I pulled up the game there and they were running test as the game crashed and the guy said no mama it’s not your device..look at another game was his advice

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🤣

spice saffron
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Numerous crashes are definitely frustrating not only when doing intels, but in the middle of events, like RR today. Crashed after a rally hit a building. Crashed after enemy march hit our building, etc. 🤦‍♀️

digital glacier
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🤣🤣🤣 They not so smart

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$ 🚫 = 🧠

woven spire
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Half vote feelings if not more..others friends and then same interest

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And then small % votes whats best

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And people cannot accept votes

terse agate
woven spire
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They told me my pc is weak

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Ye.. rip my 10k+ setup

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Its weak

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Need 60k

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If that even exist😂

terse agate
woven spire
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True

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😂😂

terse agate
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🤣😂

woven spire
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They just dont do anything with quality and performs

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All updates

terse agate
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Pretty soon it crashes on all devices….
But they will keep saying “it’s your device”

pallid willow
steel musk
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when i match them.. I don't even try 🤣

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they playing pow more than F2P 🤣

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they need 15 gold frags too much.. sos made them poor

woven spire
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Only thing they can play cause no one playing against them

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Need to make money worth it

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😂

dense lance
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the gen skipping is lousy, but the gen 13+ potion did actually come out first

still tapir
cursive summit
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The Horde and Trap need updated/stronger options. We kill the strongest trap in the first attacks and no one burns in horde also against the strongest level.

velvet storm
modest moss
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are devs aware lots of spenders are going to quit sos after dd? @merry scroll

raw light
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👀

modest moss
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serious question Elizabeth?

tardy night
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Yes. Do it before KirbyPopcorn

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They already got your money. Now they don't have a use for you

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Once their bags run empty, they will come begging again

winter canyon
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If you wanna quit after DD, why not quit before and save the $BlushFrog

worldly sable
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I’m doing same

winter canyon
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I understand... you getting gen 13-17 at once tomorrow right

worldly sable
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Yes

winter canyon
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RIP😵

frail path
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Their revenue dropped so hard and i love it

winter canyon
frail path
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On top of their revenue dropping, they keep releasing new features that is gonna kill their game even more

winter canyon
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After many whales spent to max Angelica, they nerfed her... so KG basically slapped a lot of whales in the face

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They did the same thing with Olly months ago

storm solstice
distant gull
stiff ether
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Judging by the „Going out of business“- sales lately, diamond store won‘t save them.

spare dew
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Please sort out fair RR match making, how is it fair we match an alliance who have 2 Angelicas and we have 0?

digital glacier
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They don't match based on a specific hero. If you want a fair match, be in a top 20 alliance and register only yourself.

solid rivet
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RR matchmaking is broken again 💪💪

digital glacier
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No. It's no more broken than it was last rr 🤣

solid rivet
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200K pointa difference in score, how is this possible, there are no alliances with similar RR score to match up with?

digital glacier
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Alliance win loss ratio effected score.

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Let's say my score in an alliance that's never played rr is 10000

solid rivet
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When their players burn enemy rally leaders after 2 hits, something is wrong in there

digital glacier
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If i go to an alliance that's won every rr for 4 years, my score probably gonna be like 100,000

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If i go to an alliance that's never win, I'm 4 years, it probably gonna be like 1000.

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But my stats don't change 🤣

solid rivet
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We dont win RR since 3 years ago, our score should be -1000

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We always fight max players, always getting top alliances, something is wrong in there

digital glacier
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Lol. 0 wins for 3 years 🤣 that's funny

solid rivet
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This last RR, you add all the morale from my alliance and is lower than their top player

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How is that possible

spare dew
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I don’t think you can blame the game for not winning in 3 years

solid rivet
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Something is wrong in there

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Dude, i just exagerated about the 3 years

digital glacier
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Morale is very like

solid rivet
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Im talking to kids?

digital glacier
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999999 morale vs 0 Or, 29 vs 28. No difference 🤣

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What's your alliance and state 🤔

solid rivet
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Well, if you were more than 10 IQ u could understand that usually if you have money to get 500 morale, means you have money to max other stats

digital glacier
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🙄

solid rivet
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But now I know that u dont have more than 10 so its ok

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Maybe someone else can come and interact to have a more quality conversation

digital glacier
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So, are you crying because you couldn't beat 1 mega whale or couldn't beat the other 29?

solid rivet
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Im not crying, just saying the matchmaking is broken because they dont even try to do a fair fight

digital glacier
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Very simple. Here's how this goes.

30 players identical p10 t12
Vs
30 players identical p10 t12

They will match.

Ok.
Now.

1 mega whale and 29 p9 t12 players
Vs
30 p10 t12 players

They can match. Because the 1 player compensates the others by having such a high score while others are lower.

solid rivet
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They have more than 5 players stronger than our strong player

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Explain me that

digital glacier
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Oh, I'm not even double iq, I shouldn't bother replying 🤣

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Forget I said anything

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I already explained that actually 🤣

solid rivet
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Its ok, everyone deserve a second chance

digital glacier
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Shows whose using their iq and who isn't 🤣

solid rivet
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They have more P13, more P12, more P11, more P10, more max players, they score was over 200K points

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You are trying to explain something that you dont understand

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And that is why you show your low IQ, next time dont talk if you dont know

digital glacier
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Rr doesn't use matching formula based on stats. Or actual strength.

Ultra rare tempest arm IV has 3,000,000 bp.
That doesn't have the same effect as 3,000,000 bp from troops 🤣

solid rivet
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I understand u are mad at SOS but dont make people waste their time reading your stupidity

digital glacier
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You had state transfer this past week? @solid rivet

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Your opponent probably had state transfer also
So.
Let me enlighten you with my single digit IQ.
any players who transfer states, have a 0 rr score, so matching is absolute dog #067 that first time 🤣

spark kindle
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First rr after transfer is the absolute worst matching

digital glacier
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Exactly what I said 😂

unreal lichen
steel musk
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magic

unreal lichen
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After 4 months off, after the transfer my score were zeroed like im new player 👀shocked_froggie 😂 dosnt matter my current generation at that time was maxed, max research, hq etc was 0 also all personal score...

digital glacier
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Invisible &* inactive 90* days can do that too.

unreal lichen
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I did... But in the old state my score stayed, in the new state was 0

digital glacier
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It will catch you next rr 😜

steel musk
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transfer again

unreal lichen
digital glacier
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I'm saying, going inactive 90* days and* invisible, also gets you an rr score of 0 😜

unreal lichen
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I just have no patience for bajilion heroes at once, waw... So exited

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Plus all resonating heroes, new tempest...and also no support here, nobody to answer on some questions 😂 fun+ sx so bad

spark kindle
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I did both, my score became 0 only when I transferred but not when I was inactive (which lasted around 4 months and I was off the map)

dense lance
woven spire
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Without selina

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With

elfin blade
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Ours is actually 6 games now anyway, is it not like this for everyone? 😅 I think it counts KOH weeks so we’re at 12 now but having played 6 games

woven spire
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@merry scroll angelica now f2p hero?

rich dome
woven spire
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For a homeless its also ridicilous to spend on clothes while they can eat lol

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Just random example

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Or a car😂

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I mean 2k for me might be 20 euro for you😂

rich dome
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yes, please carry on normalizing this game 🤣

woven spire
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Lol....

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Dude no need to be jaelous at people who spend

rich dome
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'jealous", lmao 🤣

woven spire
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You basically blaming people who spend for FP their bs

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Let people do what they want

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But i feel like you the same type who would blame the victim not the killer lol

rich dome
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yes, and please keep shouting at the clouds while you are at it 😅

woven spire
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Anyway not the point. Back to angelica its ridicilous

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They even deny

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That she got "changed"

woven spire
steel musk
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this gen 16 or 17

rich dome
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Just here to record the general player sentiment, seems all are happy -- will report back to devs

woven spire
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Thanks intern

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Dont touch buttons😂

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😂

spice jungle
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So when they release the special operative rider, are they going to do it in the middle of doomsday and mess up again so that half of the teams can purchase them while the other half has to wait a week like they did with olly?

steel musk
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expect anything from devs

spice jungle
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I expect them to nerf robbie right after people get him to max purple brain kek

hardy cargo
#

I love the fact that all that had to be done, was to make a few screenshots of saber's messages and now everyone can substitute for him. What a job, man...

woven spire
pallid willow
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Make match confirm time 10 seconds 😠

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In pow

fiery basin
tidal apex
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Just give at least 10 min queue ban to anyone who starts searching for game but fails to confirm when it finds one. It will improve players experience, no more having same person fail to confirm 10 times in a row, harder to exploit system and get matched against specific enemies too.

fiery basin
pallid willow
#

Is incredibly annoying, are they hacking and can see which team are they or wtf cause is always same people doing it and do it as if they could see their team😒 every now or then i understand it but fkn 5 times in a row? Just make queue shorter so that we dont have to waste our time on people doing it

woven spire
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They do to.match their farma

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Ita annoying ashell

pallid willow
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As if its not enough to lose matches more than winning cause of whales now also annoying to wait 5 minutes to play cause mofkrs dont want to click accept

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Idk i think some have hacks to see their teams cause i see it on teams where none is a farm

woven spire
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They just check if they accept

hardy cargo
woven spire
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Then you can see

pallid willow
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10 sec accept match and is fixed

woven spire
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Just accept and you see if other screen accept aswell and same square

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If not then you did not match

pallid willow
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But how pathetic is that tho 😓

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And boring to play same farm tf

tidal apex
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It just makes me so sad that we need to deal with problems like that when it is 30 mins to code solution to this if someone is bad at his job... Good dev would code it within 5 mins 😒

pallid willow
#

So just as last confirmation all these 13 to 17 heroes will be blue brain regardless if they general or not right?

slim walrus
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They all start with blue brain and first needs to be upgraded to the purple brain

wide wraith
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why the CMs cant confirm this i dont know after all isnt it their job to manage the community, and as there has never been a gen skip of 5 before no one actually knows

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unless there has been conformation that i have missed

worldly sable
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It’s bullpoopy 😂

slim walrus
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I only can talk about my experience... so that might be wrong, but we skipped a generation and the skipped once where all simple blue brained

worldly sable
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Voucher store allows upgrade of 3 gens, we have 5. Even if all 5 are there, this is still incredibly unfair to all of us

slim walrus
wide wraith
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thats what i mean, the CMs should have been here not skivving off, its not like the lunar new year is celebrated by everyone in the game#

worldly sable
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Beyond this, we have no opportunity to improve these heroes as we will have never gotten to do hero challenges for all of these generations

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We are essentially set back over a year and are told it’s fine

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Can not believe these developers are real

worldly sable
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7-10 if we had general, blue was skipped and we directly went to purple

wide wraith
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so we are to miss over a year's chance to grow and they think that is ok, Gen 13 came out when i was streaming that was a year ago

tardy night
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I doubt we are getting 13 at all

slim walrus
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Yes, that was the same for us, and i totally agree that this generation skipping is annoying. But even when now many players will disagree, but the not good swapped rays helped me to catch up with that a bit... sorry for all those they hate it...🫣 but it reall helped me with the skipped generation

tardy night
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14-16 in rays, 15-17 in vv

worldly sable
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Considering 13-15 have the same stats now, some 13 beat out 15, so we are even more funked

wide wraith
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if they want to skip, they should give the part like they did in PTR1 to max

worldly sable
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They do not care to keep a fair gaming environment as we have seen time and time again

slim walrus
worldly sable
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I believe we can safely assume the plan is to milk as many as possible until the end of the upcoming DD

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And really anyone that stays beyond this is just stupid

wide wraith
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everyone should boycott DD so no one enters it

worldly sable
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The concept of “Age of Outreach” was implemented in game previously and would have at least kept us competitive

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So why not now, with the most severe jumps in heroes

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Because they do not care about their players

wide wraith
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yeah skipping gens means missing out of events AGAIN

wide wraith
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The CMs knew this was coming but said nothing is this how they care about the community

stable cosmos
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Fp mever really tell us anything mechanics related in advance. They tell us a feature is coming but absolutely nothing, ever, on how that feature works.

They rely on unpaid labour, both streamers and mods, to do 99% of their work.

Supplying pixels isn't really pay imo. Even if they do get bios etc, unless its also actual money its unpaid

tame jackal
digital glacier
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  • A. = not skipping hero generations
  • B. = skipping hero generations

Stats difference at release?

  • A. Yes
  • B. No (advantage with same stats and knowledge of who to upgrade)
    (non skip generations had this change on them)
  • A. players who upgraded gen 13 and especially 14 vs someone who waited for gen 15 have free stats ultimately hindering those who waited to upgrade gen 15, (they could have upgraded at gen 13 or 14 and lost a lot less in rewards vs waiting for 15)
  • B. This won't be an issue for you.

Focusing on a hero you needed can become a complete waste of time, materials, effort to upgrade

  • A. Yes (nikola, Trish, robert)
  • B. No (advantage for everyone except whales)

Earning frags while they are "new" heroes.

  • A. Yes (advantage)
  • B. No.

Can you drastically reduce the gap of the hero completion level between A. & B.?

  • A. Irrelevant
  • B. Yes (the cost of A. Is far greater per stat% than B.)

Map searches for the 3 generations below the current generation

  • A. If a player maxed any hero, they have a 1 (hero max) /9 (heroes possible) of getting a useless capsule.
  • B. Not an issue (advantage)

Rays casino changes

  • A. drastically decreased non skip states chances to obtain current generation hero
  • B. Drastically improved their ability to obtain and level up older generation heroes.

Actual use on battlefield. Only 2 marches of behemoths so this limits the huge differential of heroes you actually need to aquire

  • A. most only have low-mid purple level heroes.
  • B. Short term disadvantage, long term advantage (knowledge of skills and same stats vs lack thereof)
elfin sonnet
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why gen 17 right after gen 12?? What kind of nonsense is this.. someone explain.. 714 -804

digital glacier
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Trying to get more states on same schedule so devs can be more lazy 🤣

elfin sonnet
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Everyone started to hate the damn game..

digital glacier
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That talented 3 years ago 🙄
Skip gens aren't that bad off after 3 months or so 🤷

elfin sonnet
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How can the state that started 2 years ago be equal to the state that started 2 years later.. you are killing the game..

digital glacier
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It actually has advantages

elfin sonnet
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There is no advantage, I don't think developers have brains anymore

digital glacier
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Analysis centers in 2 years time can make up for the difference in troop training.

New states have different store for a long time allowing speedups and purchase of vip points etc to help them catch the old states progress.
New new states have an easier time obtaining set sompletions and morale levels.

elfin sonnet
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1st state vs 800th state... the logic is completely messed up

digital glacier
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There tons of things new states have that old states didn't have for very long 🤣
Yall had trap damage give rewards based on damage. Not on a ser rank based upon alliance participation. So yall had that for like 9 months before it came to us. So that's pretty much helps not only with hero gear itself but the aircraft, and treasure capsules.

#

Many of the things you that got released in state 800 got released the same time in state 1 🤣

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It's not like day 1 of state 1 p13 behemoths existed 🤣

elfin sonnet
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So now you accept that the game is dead..

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I hope you are smart enough to not realize the difference in power between gen 12 and gen 17..

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You are writing for too long.. good night..

digital glacier
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First off. Gen 17 isn't released worth talking about their stats by 99.99999999% of the players 🤣
Gen 16 was very difficult for many to obtain, the best most anyone of them have is probably purple Marcos. Bigger Spenders will have red easily.

But gen 17 gonna be just like 16 when it comes to how easy it is to obtain them 🤣 which wasn't easy at all.
So if you actually take the time to think about what I wrote above. You'll realize. 3 months, that's it. 3 months as a f2p player will be difficult for you. Then it's gonna be a lot easier.

elfin sonnet
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If you can find a player who is f2p and spends little in 3 months 😏

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they will all burn..

digital glacier
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No need to spend. In 3 months time, your gen 16 will be almost identical to most everyone else gen 16.
Gen 17 we both earn at a horrible rate
And they release gen 18.
So. Your most recent 2 generations of heroes, won't be any different than mine, if any at all 🤣

elfin sonnet
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Someone needs to tell the developers that they should ask the players some things.

digital glacier
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You said you're getting 13-17 tomorrow 🤔

elfin sonnet
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16 never seen

tardy night
digital glacier
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🤣 This shows you didn't read my posts.

elfin sonnet
#

12 gen now.. and 17 tomorrow..

digital glacier
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Rays casino have 2 heroes from 3 gens, vouchers have 2 heroes from 3 gens.

Predictions says.
Rays. 2 slots for gen 14.15.16 tokens
& 17 in crate + 1 slot on wheel
Vouchers. 15.16.17

So, while you spin you're pretty wheel those gen 14-16 tokens you can use for gen 16.
Most players barely have, a purple Lan because she only came from the stage target crate in rays for like 4 of the 6 times rays appeared 🤣
Most people have right at a purple marcos cause bloodsport and svs rank rewards etc.
So, you're gen 16 will drastically improve and in 3 months time will pretty much be identical to my gen 16 🤣

All while, we together are earning gen 17 as the new hero release in events.

Ok, so your gen 13-15 will be non existent by this upgrade pattern. But in 3 more months, gen 18 comes and 15 not gonna be used much by many at that point 🤣

tardy night
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Post your inventory onceKirbyPopcorn

elfin sonnet
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It is possible to encounter 1-803 state within 3 months

digital glacier
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Of hero specific tokens I have?

tardy night
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Everything that can be used to acquire hero progression materials.

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Biocaps to stuff for ranking in sotf etc

digital glacier
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I don't go all out like some players for every hero gen 🤣
I've went all out for gen 15 and saved pretty much everything since.

tardy night
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Yeah, share it once.

digital glacier
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I skip 3 gens or 4 or 5 🤣

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Or 7 in the case of gen 15 🤣🤣

tardy night
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What do you do in svs and rr - just get zeroed to get more troops in svs, and in RR?

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After one march is done.

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And then see your inventory too. Then pick any random 100 players in that zone of gen skip. See their inventory. Compare it.

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Do you think a variance will exist between what you have and what those people will have?

And can everyone play like you do in those PvP events.

digital glacier
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I didn't skip hero gens 🙄 look at how many not even touched 🤣

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Comparing me to the average sos player, is like comparing a college professor to elementary kid student 🤣

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My helicopter is still not touched 🤣

tardy night
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Exactly. So it's pointless to put your example on best optimised gameplay to any average player who has not prepared anything, not knowing this was happening either.

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You had 30k+ plasma, many of ours sit with 200.

digital glacier
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What I said has nothing to do with using my main as an example base for players 🤣

tardy night
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It has everything to do with it because average progression will be determined by how well prepared they were.

digital glacier
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Excuse me for being smart to see the horrible drop rate of gen 16 in rays casino and deciding to skip the hero and wait for next round when they'll be in the tokens and make it so much easier to get gen 16. 🤣

tardy night
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When you "invest" in Carlos, you have 500 left over in frags.

digital glacier
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Excise me for thinking how sos has changed 13-15 to match stats and how 16 was higher, and thinking they will do the same for gen 17 🤣

tardy night
digital glacier
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I skipped 7 generations of heroes to go for gen 15 🤣🤣🤣
Wanna talk about hero gen skip 🤣 I went for Carlos in rays and vouchers and svs 🤣🤣🤣 then was like. Oops. Migo 3 stage ranking. Well, this gonna suck 🤣

tardy night
digital glacier
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I have a brain. I think of upgrades and how they would work for me. I don't use cookie cutter streamers advice to tell me what to do.

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90% of players in rr send their first march out of their base. Then gets burned, zeroed, and cries. 🤷

tardy night
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Yeah, I'm just saying that the theory you have regarding it not affecting people or events much is built from your understanding of a playstyle and a prepared inventory that's simply not tenable for 90% of non whales.

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To force them into playing this manner, they would have had to start a year back - time they never got.

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Cuz a year back they had gen 6-7

digital glacier
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I've done the math, Ive look at players rallies, heroes, stats, etc. I can see how much upgrades the player who doesn't spend money can get heroes to if they go for every gen.
I know how to differentiate my experience from the overall experience the vast majority would experience.
Apparently you don't think I can do such a thing.

tardy night
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The way you keep telling everyone it's not affecting anything, I don't think you're figuring in where people stand in their preparation for it. At all.

digital glacier
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No. That's you putting words in my mouth. I never said it ISN'T EFFECTING ANYTHING

tardy night
digital glacier
#

There are advantages to skipping hero gens 🤣

tardy night
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When people are prepared. When people get time to prepare. When people know it's happening. I will agree.

None of those happened to anyone who's a casual sos player in gen skip states.

digital glacier
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Non skip states.
🤔 Wait for streamer to test heroes for you
🤔 Wait for devs to buff / nerf hero
🤔 Dont know who gonna be useful for future generations

Skip gens.
Real results show strength
Devs probably ironed out the buff / nerf by now
Can see who from gen 13 or 14 or 15 or 16 could still be good to use come gen 17 🤣

Idk. Maybe those aren't advantages and I'm dumb 🤷🙈

tardy night
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And remember they all were dealing with nerfed 7-12 limitless.

tardy night
#

What do we gain from streamer tests - they are great till the point the vids get made. F+ changes skills on the fly.

digital glacier
digital glacier
# tardy night Skills, Laura, how many times since those tests have they changed her?

Depends if you count her non limitless skill changing to a limitless skill and if you consider them buffing hero by less than 10% on one occasion a change in skill 🤣
I mean, she's what, gen 9 🤔 I can't remember, I dont bother to use her in pvp. Or trap since I got my Wolfe pretty high up there especially when I can't even upgrade her to purple brain 🤣

And i love how you previously asked me this, and I answered you, and you still ask me this again.

digital glacier
tardy night
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Lol

digital glacier
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Will devs keep their hands off 100%,no. But odds are pretty good. If it ain't been touched for 1 - 2 generations, it ain't gonna be touched 🤣

Laura was buffed and nerfed multiple times upon the release of 7-12 being limitless.

tardy night
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When I say they are actively tinkering with them, I mean they are tinkering with them after those vids and recommendations have been made. 🤣😂

digital glacier
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So, trying to use her as an example hero for my argument on buff / nerf ain't really valid because the devs haven't really settled on her for long period..

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Yes. I understand that 🙄

tardy night
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So what guarantee do you have any of 15-18 will not be touched?

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Evelyn was buffed. Angelica was nerfed. RE guy was buffed. Willy nilly changes on the fly ?

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Angelica was buffed for non limitless to be better than olly and all other inf heroes without her ll skills unlocked.

digital glacier
#

Evelyn was buffed. So was Carlos too. This had a lot to do with the fact that players who skipped 13 and 14 were extremely ticked off those gens now have the same stats 🤷

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Evelyn and Carlos didn't get buffed at the end of gen 16 life🤣

tardy night
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So when gen 17 doesn't get sold much - streamer advice on working on Carlos holds what water given cursory glance will show to them they should work on either 13 or 15 to Nerf and push 17 sales?

digital glacier
#

There's no guarantee the game will exist at 0utc.
But, when something has an extremely high proven track record at repeating history, there's a really good chance certain things don't change after a certain time

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They won't just nerf 15s 🤣

tardy night
#

They have an extremely high proven track record of deciding everything by sales numbers. Nothing else

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They nerfed angelica. Soooo

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15s are laughable in comparison

digital glacier
#

It was her time. Just like all the other res heroes.

Give it time, Chris, Leon, ada, they'll loooose all their glory too 🤣

tardy night
#

🤷🏽‍♂️my point exactly. Nothing set in stone 🤣

digital glacier
tardy night
#

People still gotta play till the time it occurs or they choose to uninstall 🤷🏽‍♂️

digital glacier
#

Ok. How about this.
I upgraded Trish.
I used like 800 potions and 100 some completion. Capsules

I can't upgrade her unless I spend money.
Do skipped generation states have the advantage of not upgrading heroes they can no longer obtain?

tardy night
#

Yes? :-? We can't work on anything below last 3 gens either.

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Potentially won't get 13 at all

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Not even blue brain 🤣

digital glacier
#

How about Robert then.

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Trish 14 btw, 🤣
14.15.16 very likely in rays 🤣

tardy night
#

Most will not go for trish. Evelyn & Mia is what 90% will choose. Given streamer advice as you said.

digital glacier
#

Can get Evelyn.

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And Mia in crates which gonna suck. 🤣

#

So few frags there

#

But see, you're not wanting to answer the simple thing.

Because it would prove skip gen state, do have advantage 🤣

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It is an advantage in every aspect, no.

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It is an advantage none the less, yes

tidal apex
#

You keep talking only about heroes but gen skip is so mich more.... They will be facing states that had year more to work on upgrading plasma levels or plasma research. Year of daily intel and all events plasma adds up to a lot. Year of purifying plasma in a building adds a lot. It all matters.

Sure, in high end difference will be miniscule because whales have everything maxed but everyone else will be affected and a lot weaker than average player from a state that had extra year of time

digital glacier
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So skip gen state initially have a very difficult time, yes.

Can the gap is stats be made up very quickly, yes.

tardy night
#

You see it as an advantage to skip gens cuz you're prepared for it. There's not really much to say there when you are not seeing that average random person is not prepared fo it.

digital glacier
digital glacier
tardy night
#

Average 100 random players

digital glacier
#

My Inventory has nothing to do with this argument 🤣

#

It's 0utc, have fun arguing uselessly

tidal apex
hasty tulip
tidal apex
#

Nice description, they totaly tested it before update :p

hasty tulip
#

Small Indie company

raw breach
#

So great when in migo group your state is only 1 that did not merge last week. Going to be fun

proud dagger
#

Why is the bundle for previous MIGO available?

pallid willow
#

Feeding frenzy closed 😄 and in migo task 😄

#

Stupid gens how are we supposed to even unlock all those mfking heroes?

#

So how much we hate devs? Yes.

proud dagger
#

Surely you can max 15 heroes at the same time!

odd umbra
#

In digging no Fragments for new heros? And i got in 7 diggs no frags.

  1. We want new frags
  2. is the rate reduced for the frags?
stoic elm
#

Yeah seems to be just giving the basic stuff, got the chest that usually gives frags or positioning chip and only gave the basic box contents😅

steep yacht
#

whales must've complained that f2p were able to beat them in the first week of hero challenge because they got free frags from saved precision chips 😂

tame jackal
#

a lot of new bundles 🤣

tropic echo
#

Can someone explain this to me please

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They mean upgrading the new heroes I am assuming ,what's certain heroes can my rusty be a certain hero cause he is

hasty tulip
#

Devs 🤡

tropic echo
#

I really think sos had gone bonkers. Now they giving the riddler a run for his money

#

Everything is beyond vague but downright stupid

woven spire
#

What is this?

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I dont know whsts happening in the game tbh

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I only see bundles

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Half stuff dont work

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Well

pine pendant
#

The biggest joke is RR store, still Gen 11 after throwing 5 generations on our faces. They want us to leave for sure lol

minor berry
#

I heard there was 3 buildings is that true?

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Also feeding frenzy ended so not sure what were meant to do about that

tardy night
pallid willow
#

Nothing will be fixed tho cause lUnAr nEw yEaR for devs

hasty tulip
#

I have missing furnace option or I can't find it?

tardy night
#

Doomsday still got 7-12 potions too

rain swallow
#

100% of them didn't work for me either

slender merlin
#

No mines, intel again gives t1, typical start of Migo.

visual frigate
#

Are there no crystal mines anymore?

slender merlin
#

I mean all you need to do is do dailies and get capsules from vouchers via biocaps.

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Then buy capsules from migo shop and new gen hero unlocked day1

woven spire
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All people transfered have 0 score

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RIP DYZ

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They end group g

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😂

tepid rivet
#

Hey, don't spoil my group G uh

vocal zephyr
#

Hello,
What’s up with this migo match up?

Last one was fairly even states put together… but this one we went back to the old ways it looks like they just grouped the closest state numbers together?
We have leading states matched up against trailing states??

somber pollen
#

I used one, thought I was gaining gen17 token, I didn't ...I went check in rewards and the capsule Nikola guy was there but even the 100% chance of Nikola that I don't need anymore I didn't get.

stable cosmos
#

Gods what is this? How are legendary badges a thing? They haven't been useful since gen 7. Devs you suck.

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Oh and koth betting coins are gone. No saving for things! Earn it in a single season or we take it off you. Gfy players

tame jackal
#

Now that I realize you can't mine

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😂

timber cargo
#

Well new Tempest arms are just as crappy as before…

tepid rivet
stable cosmos
#

Why is feeding frenzy on migo today as if its something i can do? Feeding frenzy ended yesterday

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That is rhetorical

wooden dew
# visual frigate Are there no crystal mines anymore?

Hello Aramis, I also noticed those were not accessible. My guess is we can probably expect it to show up ingame shortly, if not later today then sometime this week. It was implied the feature would not be removed as the per update in #⭐︱game_information, and would rather be expanded with the addition of the Alliance Mine. That in particular is set to release before the end of the month. Hope that helps!

near mesa
#

madness? THIS IS SOS

stable cosmos
#

Spend on the new heroes! Earn points! Spend spend spend. Revenue still dropping and we don't know what to do

woven spire
#

Look global leaderboard

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😂😂

#

Vega already maxed mia

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More bundles please

#

They didnt release enough yet😂

stable cosmos
#

See thats part of their stupid problem. People can max stuff on day one... that shouldn't be a thing. Those people need to actually play the game

woven spire
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Exactly

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Unlimited bundles

stable cosmos
#

If you don't actually want to play, why are you? Just donate money to fp instead

digital glacier
# tidal apex It is everything, when you add plasma levels/research, crystal research, heli/ai...

Many states had many different rewards amounts for items.
Let's also consider, since the dawn of time in some states, gen plasma existed allowing for automatic 50% cost towards t11 which is required to mass produce t12. So that's a huge difference there. But I'm being you forgot about that little boost though didn't you.

Ok. Now, let's take into considerations analysis centers which allow for greater speed at finishing certain things.

Let's also not forget how some states has events done other states never had, how some states also had double the amount of rewards in their weekly store than other states.

Alliance store had speedups, vip points, etc for a very very very long time before our state got to be on your screwed up alliance store system 🤣. Let's not forget about all these times little things that over the course of a year, drastically adds up.
So instead of societies on buying item A from the store, you buy item B

Also. Let's not forget one very very important thing here.
The time line for crystals, that's not really relevant considering it was released in more states than it was not released in when it was implemented in the game. So that's really not even a thing.
Regarding behemoths the only thing you can really complain about here is upgrading the Dino because you had just as much monkey intel and monkey rallies as anyone else was allowed. So yes. You're ever so slightly behind in that aspect because I believe it was released to 700s about a month after we had it in our state. Whoopty do. 30 days.
You know how much difference 30 days of Dino intel makes 🤣🤣 1 upgrade 🙄if that.
You had years to leech information from the early states for knowing how to maximize your gameplay.

Must suck you can't do that anymore 🤣

pallid willow
stable cosmos
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Dunno. Fminus seem to like them a lot but it does nothing at all for the games fairness, gameplay, longevity or anything else.

#

If whales max on day one they're immediately bored amd the company has to release new stuff even more constantly

digital glacier
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New heroes that start off as limitless still have an underlying rank structure. So it's no longer just locate the hero,, according to the text, you gotta do a few upgrades as well 🤣

woven spire
#

Cause clearly they capable

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Maybe social.. maybe physical.. maybe something else😬😂

#

Or they have daddys

pallid willow
stable cosmos
#

No you have to do whatever this is

pallid willow
#

And is bugged cause located one and badge is locked

stable cosmos
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Quality control maybe

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Mines bugged the other way. I have located none of them and all the unlocks for locate have unlocked

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And for any mods watching. No I'm not reporting a bug they can find that themselves or start working on our feedback from the last 2 years

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I doubt he cares

pallid willow
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Tomorrow he maxes next heroe duh

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😂

tepid rivet
#

It's Chinese New Year, all FP staff is cruising in their Lambos on their ships somewhere

magic anchor
#

supposed to have another hidden upgradeable gatcha building inside together with exploration project, but its not showing up... great to see them release the bundles first.

vague shoal
#

Are we supposed to use token on migo feeding frenzy task?’it’s not playable

woven spire
#

😂

tidal apex
#

Just hurry and buy bundles without knowing if what is in them is a lot, a little or next to nothing because building that uses that will be added later 🤣

woven spire
#

I am lost

vague shoal
#

Our betting coins also were reset

#

No where was it stated we had to spend those

digital glacier
#

I located one hero, got 1 for 50 points unlocked.
Got 6/7 for one, got 1/7 for another.
Who knows what's going on. They got the labels all wonky. The icons just. I don't even know anymore with this thing.
What I do know is. The research book doesn't look changed and the small addition of materials appears to make this book impossible to finish (like last season) without buying bundles. So there's that perception so far.

#

In 3 months, skipping 5 gens won't even really be an issue for players 🤣

stone sleet
#

Someone already cleared 20 times but we can’t play 🤔

stable cosmos
#

It was running over the weekend. Note the stupid 21h remaining clock that they dovat the end for the store. The screwed up. As usual

worldly sable
proud dagger
#

it'll restart on thursday

digital glacier
# tardy night Average 100 random players

Again. I'm not average. I hoard items. Also, this is my phone. The average person doesn't have an emulator running while streaming TV while having sos loaded as well 🤣
I should have split screen to just to make it more entertaining 🤣 but I hope you get the picture. 🤣

tardy night
#

You're kinda making my point for me there. 🤣🤷🏽‍♂️

digital glacier
#

So, what's your helicoptor level 🤔

#

What's yours look like 🤔

tardy night
#

I'm talking of 100 random accounts. To show effects at large. 🤣

#

Take 100 random old state and gen skip state accounts. 🤷🏽‍♂️

worldly sable
proud dagger
#

you cannot escape potato event

digital glacier
#

Players who hoard items will be far far far better off than players who don't when it comes to skipping generations of heroes. They easily be able to max out a gen 16 hero when in a gen 17 state easily from rays casino alone during the entire season
They would roughly be able to get about 3 heroes red in 2 releases of heroes.

So, if you look at my previous explication, you will see, that's not the information is used to formulate my comparison. 😘

So, you think just because I have ample materials in my backpack, I'm unable to differentiate horde, non hoard, skip gen and non skip gen players.
I can. It's not that difficult if you're actually smart enough to be able to figure out for yourself and for others how they should upgrade based on their design of their account.

frigid vault
#

Upgrade 3 new heroes to that point is a reasonable demand to max these tasks in 7 days or not

tardy night
#

You the same guy who was complaining a bit earlier about losing out on gen skip that you decided to do when they boosted 13-14 to be same stats as your 15s. Yeah?

pallid willow
digital glacier
#

I complained the older gens with weaker stats got a free boost to be stronger.
If i knew gen 13 and 14 were gonna match stats of 15 then I could have gone harder on the gen 13 and would have earned more rewards and been better off come later generations of heroes. 🤣
That's not exactly the same thing considering states who skip gens, will already be placed in an environment with heroes at the same stats so all they have to do is look at experience feedback, data for what heroes should be prioritized based on their particular account build. 🤣
It could be related to they don't know they're going to skip gens of heroes. Ok. And they have to cram in a bunch of knowledge in a short time, but that's not exactly the same thing as skipping them, only for them to become relevant later because of a free stat boost.

Right now, anyone with a partially functioning brain can foretell gen 18 will have the same stats as 16 and 17. Therefore it's only a matter of guessing what gen 18 skills will be like in comparison to 16 and 17.
So, that's everyones games skipped gens and not.

zealous plover
#

😞🤔

digital glacier
# pallid willow But how tho? All these potions are advanced potions we only had the other ones, ...

You earn 1.5 times the amount of potions as you do capsules on a general guideline.
Vouchers, 10:1 / KOH you get potions but 0 capsules / daily hero challenges you get I think 8 so 56 a week 🤔 and then you also get capsiles and potions for ranking. So, generally, f2p, you gonna have more potions than capsules. If you just do basic gameplay and events.
And if you happen to rank high in svs, you get so much potions to capsules it's not even funny 🤣 the ratio between capsules to potions is that of like badges to mercenary influencers 🤣 so much of one, hardly any of the other.

#

Even rank like 50 or whatever it is in svs you get more potions than capsules 🤣

stable cosmos
#

Potions are much too rare compared to the use case for them especially as they're basically the new gold badges and we get gold badge all over the place.

#

Actually,can't even play hero challenge now cos it insists on current gen and i have none of them...

tardy night
digital glacier
digital glacier
#

What if sos says. Fk everyone and pulls the plug. 🤣

tardy night
#

Historic trend - they nerf them.

stable cosmos
#

Are the old boxes current gen now?

digital glacier
#

Yes. And they typically do it to all 3

tardy night
digital glacier
#

What if. They boost gen 3 to have 9999% stats 🤷

dense lance
#

but it could be a giant wolfman so that we finally complete that old Rampage video game, but with behemoths

digital glacier
#

Rv infantry, and that negates Donald pretty much.
Leon with mia
Ada on carlos
And you would think you're team gonna be pretty unbeatable.

But it won't be.

stable cosmos
#

Thats not me not thinking ahead, thats me not looking in the migo store. Ok i have 1. Shame she's a rider. Bigger shame its even needed, why can't i use whatever i like in the stupid challenge

dense lance
digital glacier
#

Be happy they aren't forcing you to use all 3 like early on. 🤷

dense lance
#

just in terms of what the Doomsday cash grab will be, I mean

#

possibly a new generation of tanks, also

digital glacier
#

There's quite a few tempest skills that are really underrated and even a couple old heroes that used to be op. Have some use, but most people don't think about it because they stopped being op 🤣

dense lance
#

but I think they put that in the rules already

digital glacier
#

They can change the rules. They have before.

#

Intermission

dense lance
#

true, bu it's easier to just add the new counter system arms that they already announced, then people scramble to complete more heroes that they were "neglecting"

#

or the wolfman

#

spaceship that abducts your opponents troops, resulting in permanent capture, it'll be something

tepid rivet
#

[Saberlot: oh.. no..]

digital glacier
dense lance
#

I'm mostly kidding about the old 1986 arcade game "Rampage", which featured a giant gorilla, lizard and wolfman destroying a city

digital glacier
# tardy night Literally no one said you are unable to differentiate between those. Read what I...

I find it funny how spamdaplanscape mentions "lmao smart"

I've setup a player weaker than cardin to beat her.

I've figured out how to achieve 360,000 duty rate regen faster and longer than anyone. Dialing in on their formula slowly.

Figured out the magical number for svs

Figured out their formula for how useless paratrooper effect really is a wasteful upgrade for the formation system.

Figured out on my own (MKR did it sooner but he posts a lot of videos and I didn't see that one) about the Behemoth trials and corner camping 🤣

I've definitely figured out a lot more than most. And I don't use cookie cutter advice. 🤷

stable cosmos
#

I've mentioned that before. We have george and lizzie. Just need ralph

digital glacier
#

AI robot named musk. ☺️
We can call him musky 🤣

#

I still think we're going to get boats / ships before Behemoth 3

stable cosmos
#

New plane

#

Zeppelin or flying saucer.

#

Or a 2 in one and the resurrect a pteranadon so we have a plane behemoth

dense lance
digital glacier
#

Me 🤣

dense lance
#

there you go then

digital glacier
#

Essentially. Yes.
Exactly. No.

stable cosmos
#

They'rea bit friendlier to upgrade f2p than the monkey

digital glacier
#

Great news about Koth.
Your alliance ranks are predetermined by your previous wins. So your matchups will be based on the standings you hold.so,depending how good you were in your old state group, now depends on being introduced to the new state group 🤣

dense lance
#

they're easier, it's got 2 things to pump up, but also you can't strategize them the way you can with the batteries

digital glacier
#

Tanks is like Behemoth 3 with the "ease of upgrade" for formatting system 2.0..... Which is simply a lie on ease of upgrade, I like formation 1.0 so much better, but mainly because of the rest button 🤣

#

Wish I had a rest button for formation 2.0
Id start killing a lot more players 1v1 🤣

dense lance
#

I really wish they'd offer a 1 time reset, or a reset for some number of biocaps that would be hard for people to swallow, yet doable

#

like 50k or something

#

1 time would be better

digital glacier
#

1 a month for 5k sounds great.

dense lance
#

return items that can't be used for points

digital glacier
#

Easy to make that items a thing.
Make it like a skinny silver/ gold tactical point, 0 points in event.
Easy to do.
Devs be lazy though

dense lance
#

yeah it wouldn't really be hard, but that's also why it'd be easier to make it once and only once, then people could use it for points but it'd be a speed bump and it's over for like 1 SVS

digital glacier
#

Of they fixed the formula for how it should work. Vs how it actually works.... I wouldn't reset mine really. I would. But only to adjust the few points I've applied after figuring out how broken it really is 🤣

dense lance
#

Actually fixing the displayed formulas and then giving the 1 time reset would be lit

digital glacier
#

Some of the big you tubers don't realize their data mined text tells them one thing. But it don't show them the formula for how it actually is calculated which is a completely different story.

#

Think the skill at 190 being level 2 has more effect than all of paratrooper combined 🤣 been a few weeks since I looked at the reports and replays and all the displayed data but last I knew. That's about how useless that entire section is 🤣

#

Sadly. Even that becomes a ton less effective at later stages when you upgrade past a certain point on other nodes 🤣

#

So upgrading stuff at a certain point. Pretty much makes you weaker 🤷

#

What a great sos system we have

#

If sos devs worked for nasa designing and testing everything, all positions would be available after the first test because they would be in coffins

tidal apex
#

One change I am happy about is more migo "badge" tasks. I think it might even be possible to get to last reward chest without doing get 3mln alliance duel merit and unlock 100 migo skills tasks which are tasks I failed last time :p

tame jackal
#

They nerfed a lot LOL

worn pewter
#

Tell me you’re killing the game without telling me your killing the game

#

Make it make sense

#

These devs can’t align anything correctly

pallid willow
# worn pewter

I located mia and the locatipn badge is still locked ChickCry everything is bugged asf

#

Why don’t devs salary gets bugged closed too 😒

worldly sable
#

I had to unlock a bunch of other heroes for Mia badge to open up 😂

#

I used FP logic 🤓

gritty fiber
stable cosmos
#

Shame the mail doesn't say "sorry we're useless and screwed up" as well

vague shoal
#

What event can we still use 16 heroes on per the mail?

pallid willow
#

Im confused 🙄 why we only have gen 13-14 story missions

olive sluice
#

Clear as mud like all communication from the devs

gritty fiber
#

Is there a downside to waiting a day for the Gen 17 anyway at this point? There is no other event that would reward for using hero fragments

wide wraith
#

so the Devs supa dupa peice of 💩 wasnt fit for purpose, there is a surprise, so when will we hear that those responsible for it have been fired, its about as useful as the CMs are

olive sluice
gritty fiber
gloomy echo
#

Why can’t we even get the new hero’s with 15k bios at the value voucher. Like 20 just for a crate

#

Seriously

stable cosmos
#

I think it means you can upgrade the previous gen to do the challenges in the migo building. But yeah, clear as mud

olive sluice
#

Maybe these badge thingies

stable cosmos
#

It also says to colonel which is miles down the track so neither is a fun option for all 3 unless they wanna actually start handing out potions

wide wraith
#

can the Devs hire someone who knows what they are doing

stable cosmos
#

They did. The ubisoft guy. The problem there is what he knows how to do is overprice things

olive sluice
#

I don't think any competent dev is still working on SoS. They have a new game which they push now

terse agate
stable cosmos
#

So, same old same old?

wide wraith
#

so those of us who have already located the 3 Gen 17 get nothing or what? and how can we use Gen 16 if we cant get them till rays place tomorrow. Mods need to drag the CMs here kicking and screaming if necessary to explain this BS

stable cosmos
#

Those tasks run for the whole season. I'll gladly consider fup to be incompetent but I'm not going to stress

terse agate
#

All the cm’s do is say: “I will check with the devs”

wide wraith
#

but what about Hero Challenges which are weekly and now delayed so those who could do them at reset will have an advantage

stable cosmos
#

The bonus in troop drill is negligible. Your next task isn't even available when even the sliw version finishes

gritty fiber
stable cosmos
#

Hero challenges, you just need 1 hero of the current gen. As i found earlier, theres an unlock in the migo store

#

This is par for the course in them being useless but i really wouldn't stress unless youre somehow an f2p lead

wide wraith
#

but is that affected by this announcement?

wide wraith
#

or a low spender lead

stable cosmos
#

Wolfe, carlos, mia. Can play the challenges

#

Wolfe carlos maddie, cannot. And mia is the hero in migo store

#

There is no unique story mode

olive sluice
wide wraith
#

its a total screw up, goes to show what happens when things are NOT tested and rushed into the game, The entire QA staff should be fired, Where was the Testing this time @merry scroll

olive sluice
#

which testing team? 🤣

humble spear
#

We have to buy the bundle to unlock these migo buildings or it is still not started? (Second ss comes from PTR, it is not available on live for me)

wide wraith
olive sluice
#

They let players test it a bit in PTR

olive sluice
stable cosmos
#

It just says "extra rewards" doesn't say what those are. Anyone know?

olive sluice
#

Obviously their communication skills are ... not sufficient

wide wraith
olive sluice
#

true

wide wraith
#

thats what PTR is really for, not to test anything

olive sluice
#

I guess it's so buggy at PTR that players don't even report the dozens of bugs

stable cosmos
#

That and to test the version number changes successfully. Its for rollout not testing

humble spear
frail path
gritty fiber
wide wraith
#

thought them just meant the 2 BORING story rewards that no one reads

copper moat
worldly sable
#

😂😂 saw that

stable cosmos
knotty sierra
#

Does anyone know for the states that just got Gen 13-17. Were gen 13 and 14 meant to go right to purple brain if at General?

#

Currently they are at the lowest level of blue brain

cosmic tulip
worldly sable
#

Do reserve players all earn DD prizes as well

#

Without playing

#

Trying to figure if it we should register all or let them play L2 if that’s possible

analog nymph
#

There is no l2 in doomsday

#

And can only register the usual 30 +15 reservist

#

And if you dont win and get the next round you cant even change the participants so choose wisely

#

Or badly if you want it to end quick🤣

wide wraith
proud dagger
wide wraith
#

Doomsday is a law unto itself

proud dagger
#

you're going to be group A anyway, i'd register everyone as long as they are okay with missing summit. some folks are temp joining other alliances not doing doomsday so they can keep doing summit.

wide wraith
#

my alliance isnt registering so we can have a break

worldly sable
#

So just like last time sigh

#

Okay thanks

wide wraith
#

exactly what i have been saying for 2 weeks but everyone forgot exactly how bad it is as an event

worldly sable
#

Are the prizes temporary again 😂

#

I don’t get why that’s a thing

wide wraith
#

probably, normally are for any type of league

twin nest
#

Why personal assistant is saying that people can play RR if not registered and in community everyone are saying the same as last year and no RR summit… where is the truth? 😩 did anyone else asked assistant? I mean GM

wide wraith
#

they said the same thing last year until it was too late

twin nest
#

But this is completely different things.. and affecting participants lists a lot 😭 will we have any clarification here from mods or any official news? 😭

tacit scroll
#

I moved to younger state and now weekly deals just chief and hero gear? but when SvS coming we getting still older state and they have in weekly deals badges, more chief gear, it is not fair game.... I always think that things should be same... So it means in transfer event players lossing something, last time friends moved to younger state there was no green plasma...

wide wraith
#

thats becausev they dont know or in the case of the CMs cant be bothered to do anything

jolly cliff
#

Where are our betting coins. Why were they stolen?

tacit scroll
stable cosmos
#

Its actually hidden in the koth information. So they can pretend we shoukd have known. Cos everyone reads their poorly written event rules over and over again...

still matrix
#

Unfortunately it's written in the rules in koth information as cyan said, I saved bunch of them too, now all gone ChickCry

wide wraith
#

5 Gen s of heroes is too many, especially when a General gets put back to a rookie, THe CMs dont ever play the live game and the Devs have no idea thinking that everything works like it does in PTR , talking of the CMs where are they, still skiving off?

#

they do naff all when they are here anyway

stable cosmos
#

The general should still be a general. No change in BP. They're just at the bottom of blue brain. My maddie was general when gen 13 kicked off and stayed that way. Just have to progress the brain up. Gen14 is the same. Gen15+ behaves more normally

still matrix
#

I understand the frustration shadowlord, I myself play in 782, lot of players are unhappy about this. I know this will not help but Gen 13-15 have same stats and Gen 16-17 have same stats as well. I know it still unfair but it's better than nothing ChickCry

wide wraith
#

so you have to decide what gen to do with a lack of stuff

#

lack of potions for 5 gens

unreal lichen
stable cosmos
#

You can do 1 from each. I did maddie, wolfe carlos. Didn't decide for next step up. Potions remain the biggest stopping point f2p anyway

wide wraith
#

they need to remember this is not the PTR where potions are given out

stable cosmos
#

I want to convert all my gold, purple and blue badges to potions. At a rate of 2:1 5:1 & 10:1. As the badges are useless and i should get something from them

still matrix
#

I agree they should be a better way to earn potions when we get 5 gens at same time

stable cosmos
#

And if i thought that had a shot of making it into the game I'd do a feedback post. It does not so I'll just complain

wide wraith
#

the CMs or someone with a Funplus tag should step up and answer

unreal lichen
stable cosmos
#

Ignore the funplus tag. Those people are as useful as wet toilet paper in this discord. Shouldn't even be a tag

wide wraith
#

then the Tags should be removed from them

unreal lichen
#

I played enough games to make difference, these guys are the worst support ever

stable cosmos
#

The cms are similar but theres a CHANCE with them the funplus tag not so much. Haven't been told why thats still a thing. If they post nothing and have no input in sos then make them plebs like the rest of us

still matrix
#

I know you guys are tired of hearing this, but if we submit a feedback and get people's vote we can pass this info to dev team

stable cosmos
#

Which bit? The remove tags bit?

#

I don't think the devs can help there

still matrix
#

No cyan I mean a better way to earn potions

wide wraith
stable cosmos
#

Its been raised, many times afaik

unreal lichen
stable cosmos
#

It shouldn't really need to be raised. The limiting factor should be the capsules, but you generally have enough to go some distance into purple. What you don't have is the required potions

#

Wheres the wiki, gonna math

steel musk
#

i don't like bot

still matrix
unreal lichen
#

At least for the time when they f put 15 heroes for upgrade 🤣

stable cosmos
#

Wiki useless. Reddit useless. How many stupid potions do you need to get a hero to purple?

steel musk
#

around 1.5 k

distant gull
#

💯

#

Devs never fix this bug about found travis log

stable cosmos
#

Its not 3k to get a hero just to purple.

distant gull
#

And it freezes like 6-7 seconds

steel musk
#

sorry i thought colonel

#

edited it 😂

stable cosmos
#

I guess i can pay attention when i purple brain my next one which i haven't decided on yet

unreal lichen
steel musk
#

they just add futures without update old events

#

intel still hero badge
Capital still badges
bunkers
etc etc

unreal lichen
steel musk
#

i don't think they think.. just press buttons

tepid rivet
#

Community center

unreal lichen
tepid rivet
tardy night
#

Sunday match? So no rr?

steel musk
tardy night
#

Or we get double ghosts everywhere lmao

steel musk
#

who registered in DD, can't play regular RR

tardy night
#

Yes, but see schedule. Doomsday qualifiers show on Sunday - can their servers manage that overlap

steel musk
#

don't think

tardy night
#

Last time stuff overlapped, people saw shadow hq all over the map including those in the other legion lol

steel musk
#

they should send mail " stay attend for new round of bugs"

unreal lichen
twin nest
#

Note: If you have already registered to participate in the Doomsday Open season, you will not be able to participate in the regular Reservoir Raid.

sorry, but still not clear. can't play AS ALLIANCE or can't play AS PLAYER?
@merry scroll

stable cosmos
# unreal lichen 1680 without the skills, 3x600 for the skills

1680 sounds more like what I'd expect. Ignoring skills. 1680 is a lot still. Rr store they're horribly expensive. Koth store the same. If you don't play and lose, then its only 6 of them. (I can't play, time zones) theres more in other stores and you earn them sometimes, but its nowhere near 1680 each for 15 heroes, not even over time

twin nest
steel musk
tardy night
#

Last dd they had matches on Friday

#

No overlap on Sunday 🤔

grim steppe
#

° if you take part in DD you cannot take part in RR

° If you do not take part in DD, you can take part in RR

wide wraith
#

last time it was main matches on a sunday with losing bracket on thursday

twin nest
# steel musk like last DD.. who didn't register on RR, they were able to do RR

we were not playing DD as alliance and did regular summit, so I have no idea how things work for those who were playing DD season 1. Also most of the people here are saying they couldn't play RR because alliance was registered for DD last time. why everyone is saying different and the official info is still not clear??

steel musk
#

if DD only... then that's is mess
I would congrats Devs team on that work...
most alliances have around 60 players doing RR

tardy night
#

Dd - one legion - 45 play stuff. - no rr

Rr - 2 legions - 60 + reserves can play - no dd

That was last time. Need clarification if rr still goes ahead since this time matches of DD are on Sunday which should not have happened.

grim steppe
tardy night
#

Where you getting that info? 🤔

twin nest
#

🤦‍♀️ devs wants my death

grim steppe
tardy night
#

Yes , we are saying that match overlap on Sunday (which wasn't the case last time) might mean this status might have changed. Please check with any other CM if nanami or saber aren't around.

ember monolith
#

Mmm, what terrible Thursdays we get: trap (every 2 weeks), dino raids (every 2 weeks), RL, duels, battle royale... Do you want us to live in the game?

warped ruin
#

why i cant check the crates what is inside?

grim steppe
steel musk
warped ruin
#

all

#

no popup when i clickin on it

steel musk
#

reset game

wide wraith
tepid rivet
warped ruin
grim steppe
steel musk
tepid rivet
#

I miss times when we had reservoir raid Saturdays and Sundays and league Sundays

spark kindle
#

koth betting coins are gone. you should have at least warned the players that they will vanish instead of expecting everyone to read the fine print.

grim steppe
#

I would like to have RR/DD/KOTH on Friday or Saturday..

spark kindle
#

sending a system mail about this shouldn't be that hard considering it is done for far less important things

stable cosmos
wide wraith
#

people work on a Friday , they tried that with the legion before the first Doomsday, it failed

spark kindle
#

again, it's not realistic to expect everyone to read and understand their fine prints. they are specifically written to not be understandable easily.

stable cosmos
#

"We told you in a stupid snippet of text insidesomething no one reads"

tepid rivet
#

We can write feedback about it an 1k people vote on it and then it gets ignored Shrug

steel musk
spark kindle
#

they cannot get rid of responsibility by just saying "it was in the rules"

tepid rivet
spark kindle
stable cosmos
#

They've avoided responsibilities on all sorts of stuff. This is no different. They suck

spark kindle
wide wraith
#

well we all know they have the communication skills (and brains) of a rocking horse

stable cosmos
#

We are sos, your wallet will be assimilated?

spark kindle
steel musk
tepid rivet
spark kindle
#

I know they won't fix it and I know it's their usual MO but still, I will come here and vent until they close this server too

tepid rivet
#

Well my 15k are also gone, so let's make group hugs

stable cosmos
#

Thats why I'm here. Don't wanna vent in game

tepid rivet
#

*voluntary, not mandatory ofc

spark kindle
#

I don't need a reason to hug you 😏

woven spire
#

Saber awake?

#

Or is it still saber for kfc

tepid rivet
#

He's on vacation, Chinese New Year, remember

stable cosmos
#

When it comes to this garbage most people need a hug. Except the devs, who need a lobotomy

woven spire
#

Oh so still the other one

#

Wonder if hes allowed to go on the cruise

tepid rivet
#

He's the chauffeur

steel musk
spark kindle
tepid rivet
#

😱

#

Don't say this word

#

The ToS!

spark kindle
#

that's kinda what I do for a living so...

stable cosmos
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I don't think the therapist would accept epic search maps and biocaps for their time

tepid rivet
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Waiting for Mufasa with court toupee still

tepid rivet
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Or Sarge?

stable cosmos
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Tomatoes

spark kindle
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with the current prices, they might accept oil as payment too

tepid rivet
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I have gas

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If someone doesn't leave 20k gas on a level 9 tile, then I need it for healing

steel musk
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we usually have 1 or 2 days to use coins... when event end.. why they removed betting coins 🤦‍♂️

tepid rivet
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🫰

steel musk
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to be sure.. others coins for koth summit will be recycled?

tepid rivet
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Because you don't read so it's not their responsibility (I also don't read obviously)

still matrix
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Me neither 😭

tepid rivet
steel musk
tepid rivet
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Yeah I had from the season before too

spark kindle
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they only took the betting coins, not the event coins

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I still have those

stable cosmos
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No saving allowed. Can't have people buying a frame...

steel musk
tardy night
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I used them this morning, removal must have been quite a bit after reset I reckon?