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How many times did dev bless 697?😩
it says the dreaded Valentines stalking event starts on the 12th
As I see in #⭐︱game_information , they said that the Valentine's event will start on the 14th
#⭐︱game_information message
But tomorrow there could be the new MIGO for most states
they shouldnt bother with it
Thank You for reply:) So new migo, new heroes event should start at proper time right? I'm asking, because last 2 ones (opening migo and heroes) have some delays - I don't know if I should do any Sotf tasks to get points;)
If you were talking about the new hero gen, I'm sorry then, I misread your question
But yes, tomorrow for Sotf it should be released the new hero gen
it needs a CM or Dev-Rep to be here to answer these questions instead of never being here until its too late
Yes! I’ll dm you 😌
Gotta be honest, you won't. The other states this happened to never got anything. When gen7-12 went limitless we weren't told spit. They don't tell anyone anything really and rely heavily on the streamers from ptr for new events.
I would guess they'll do nothing for you. Check Groots feedback and next time shes here ask how that went. The answer is poorly but its par for the course with this company
its a pity i cant merge with my old ptr account as that had limitless lol
Oh and i remain a little annoyed with the streamers when throwdown went live as the one i watched never looked at the targets, there would have been pre-release outcry if they had....
Just looked at the tasks, which were then wrong anyway...
i dont go onto youtube or twitch so wouldnt have seen then
This was posted in our alliance discord for me.
Yup, I fully agree with this message.
The only thing you’ll hear is:
- that it is not a problem you skipped heroes
- you won’t get extra materials
- they are thinking about an event to facilitate the skip
- you’ll have bundles to buy old gens for a reduced price, since the rally leads buys them, the joiners aren’t important
You won’t hear it since you won’t get them
only problem is i am one of the rally leads
Bundles 😬🤣😂
ewwwww
You will have hero challenges tho
They provide a decent amount
But never to upgrade enough
they dont take long, i remember the fried chickens from when gen 13 was in PTR
Make your choices upfront and only focus on the three that work together best
Shadow what gen are you on now ?
12 going to 17
yeah i know that from here but its when doing more than one rally
I would stick to gen 16 don’t I repeat don’t go for the new hunter his skills leave him open to temptest skills
where we will have gen 12 second march others will have gen 16
Yup.
According to the devs that’s no problem
they dont play the game though
I have been talking to a brick wall for 8-9 months
Get as many frags from rays and try to raise at least 2 marches
It all goes to hell after limitless anyway
got 265k for rays
You gonna need it
Previous gens were just "better" on release by like 15%. Limitless is more like 50%
Vouchers too
I was so pushed when the pulled the gold frag crap they are pretty much worthless now
About the only good thing is 13-14-15 were made kinda equal
also need to get my inf and riders to P12
But the bad part is, the others have a second and third march that have good heroes then as well
Yeah get your zoo up and plane that will help
Oh i know. Its just less painful for us down in f2p land
they are not too bad as is my squadron
Unless you are a F2P in a skipped state
I make no comment about that. I know it sucks
Then you are double scrwd
In the beginning the F2P of old states are stronger then the secondary rally leads of the skipped states
Especially the 2nd march
🤣😂🤣
The only way it could have worked would have been giving the prior gens frags in addition to the current gen. So if you picked up carlos you also got jeb and lucky frags
In the same numbers. And honestly i don't think the devs could code that
But, it’s FP……
They don’t do that…🤣😂🤣
Even if they could code it
🤣😂🤣
Bundle bundle. Bundles solve everything. Game balance. Revenue issues. All solved with bundles
Game has a bug? More bundles
💯
Tomorrow is gonna be problematic anyway……
New heroes and stuff.
And all of FP is having holidays.
If the game is gonna be a hot mess, it’ll take forever to get it solved, even longer then normally
Soooooo, more bundles tomorrow, I guess 🤣😂🤣
Last time they decided to launch AD during their holiday.
People lost troops and didn’t get them back after AD finished.
It took days for them to solve, no communication either.
Only because nearly everyone in FP was on holiday
Good way for all of them to dodge a mess until the player base calms down a little... at least, good from their point of view. In the wider scheme of things, incredibly stupid.
Poor mods had a huge task in calming everyone down.
I hope they took a few days off from their RL job starting tomorrow 🤣😂🤣
i'm working from home tomorrow
Doomsday = big maj p2w 
So... Question for the devs that are lurking around spying: This is what are we looking for in the future? All new states are gonna have gen skip?
Are you trying to equalize the generations of heroes of the old states with the new ones?
You realize that this is monumentally stupid? Right?
They had years to work on development... There's no way the new states will ever be on equal footing....
could upgrad latest gen only
do you still use gen 3 or 5 ? 🤔
🤔
joiners could upgrad 1 march.. but yes It's different for rally leads...
need 2 marches at least.. or 3
I just abandoned a few alts in some mid states for this very reason...
There's really no way to survive with gen skip
Why bother taking this game seriously🤷🏼♀️
Yeah, no i gave up on the game long ago, but i still have friends here
Gen skip it's too little compare with mess devs doing.. Behemoth, tempest arms, tanks
Yes, just have fun with friends... why try to win when it's impossible🙄
Well for some events we need 3 👀... Also one one defence if your main is out
Playing on sos timetable. Yes. Yall will be screwed over. By gen skip..
Play on your own timetable...its actually better.
Kraken could burn me even if my main not out 🤣
But i am not with gen skip... I guess it's useless and stupid...
If they were doing that to fix balance... why DYZ got easy states in their Migo
could give them FBI
The devs are creating "super states" with the mergers, and the rest are fodder for them
Had it not been gen skip I'm sure many f2ps could have done way better
yes hard to get 1 march decent in month for f2p
if want max 1 hero ( stats only) , will need like 2 months
as F2P
Not even 3 months are enough
so f2p will need like 3 - 6 months to get decent march after skipping gen
6 - 8 months if want your heros maxed on stats
without enhancement
12 heroes x 3 months per hero = 3 years
We get 3 months
GG
🤣🤣
Then it's time for the next batch of states to get screwed over when the next gen is released.... 😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨
According to the devs it doesn’t matter
They didn't boost rewards by 5x for cross gen states
😒😒😒😒
F2P dead in this game.. join strong state they will ask you to tap tap like bot...
That tells us how much they hate cross gen state and want us to be ruined
The devs can’t take the cry of whales
Which events did you guys have where you were immediately matched to older gen states after the skip?
We had a “grace period” this was only useful for cross state events.
After this we were thrown in with the rest and down with the rewards for events
In PvP - Showdown, mayhem, duels, svs, heist, pow, koth
any of these had you matching older states instantly or all after 3 months?
Showdown was instantly
I think pow was instantly (if I remember correctly)

Heist too, I think
I think svs, duel and koth had 3 months period
Duel and svs of course.
RR too, I believe
SR? Sorry, I am in my dumb mode😬🤣😂
Survival royale
Yeah
before we were get old state on RR. with heros we don't have
That one was introduced after our grace period was done
So, no clue
It's the same thing happening now when the grace period ends
That one would have been for the 625+ crowd I guess if it happened
I think they added grace period to survivor royale mid-season
At first it was unplayable but a month later it became possible to win again
Yup, but according to the devs it is no problem…..
I can’t repeat it enough 🤣😂🤣
they keep increase gap btw f2p and big spenders
You can see it in path of water... 150m bp f2p vs 350m bp kraken
F2P march can't even wound 5K of kraken
yes feel like bot
that's why i don't doing pow anymore... just 10 battles..
even if still there rewards i don't care about it.. like if i took it will make different? don't think
and another reason.. Pow need alot time..
I already know upfront which team will win.
And I am right in about 80% of the time.
Only look at the state numbers of each team.
Got a team with a lot of new states, against a team with a lot of old states….?
Guess who the winner is?
But, according to the devs it is no problem for states to skip gens.
And basically I should shut up, because for us, the only way to get rewards is when we are matched against the newer cross gen states.
But still, we haven’t gotten the rewards we used to have back
wonder when they will change matchmaking on svs
When hell freezes over?
Don’t expect help from the devs
Devs themself don't know 🤣
Yup, the struggle many of us had already
Hun, I have been talking to a brick wall for 8-9 months now already
they care when quit or don't spend...
They won't care
Over the past year they did nothing to help cross gen states at all
It's been a year of feedbacks
A puzzle game in a war game....
After 6 months of talking to a brick wall:
Then 1,5 month ago
will get this message too much if didn't max all heros ( 5 gens)
I guess 1,5 month is still not enough
Not learning from 2 years ago
$ first
they don't want change it.. they think by this way more will spend
The only answer we ever got skipping from 12 to 16 was that the cheap bundles were supposed to help, hopefully they do better by the 12 to 17 states... although there isn't much hope.
They already lost 50% revenue compared to last year so...
yes will added it in collection sets also
I know, this game needs another puzzle game.... (sarcasm)
They could spin it as "We heard you! We finally updated the skin store!"
Basically, what I assume.
In the older states are a few major whales.
Giving them the best part of their revenue.
They just follow the cry of the whales and give them more cannon fodder by creating these cross gen states
Yup, so give them cannon fodder to make them happy
Remove Koth and make MM one day event instead to be played on sundays
They fudgeed up with dyz. Way to crap on both old and new whales
Why not give the state a voting if they want to merge?
yes i guess.. alliance need 2 - 4 rally leads.. so rest could stop spend
China don't do democracy
What about another tempest armor guys? 😆
But all the bundles so you MIGHT be able to get good arms🤣😂🤣😂
Spenders are really annoyed about that.
And for a good reason
It just shouldn’t be RNG
Devs : spend ton in auction
Well, a lot was spend in the auction
There are bots placing bids?
first week only then everyone stopped
"spend" isn't the spend when some are sponsored and some are having 50% discounts. Don't take any game spending at face value.
Make a limit of obtained stars at pow per day after diamond 😈😈😈😈😈
This game have really unfair prizing policy, depending on where you live you can pay 50% less 🤣
With FP all is fair 😉🤣😂🤣😂
let me guess got whale team who ranked top 1 in event 😂
Maybe YouTube vids are the way. And LinkedIn/Twitter articles.
Well if I had fp income for a job executed as poorly as they do, I would be on a holiday 90% of the year🙋♂️🤷♂️
Nah, if FP doesn’t wanna spend a lot of money on salaries, then they also don’t get the best quality ?😬
We don't know whether they are actually profitable this year 
Yeah, but if they have built in the capita to the company, they can just milk it out
Thats part of the problem. They keep on releasing untested crap that barely works and people some people still buy out whole ahop from bundles.
What message is this giving to FP? No need to care and make good updates, releasing crap makes us money anyway and is way cheaper...
Hey bundles are the answer😂😂
Nerfed Anjelica while at it
Players have been talking to a brick wall for 8-9 months now about this.
But yeah, you go and check with the devs.
Sounds as if you’ll solve it tomorrow 🤣😂🤣
They need to make money with Selina too😒😒😒😒😒
And I honestly think the matchmaking algorithm is not broken, rather than the power gaps being so wide that you cannot even get a fair and even fight anymore. When you put a good rally leader and 7 good joiners in a rally, it is very very hard to find even matchups anymore
They assume we are all not normal people.
They assume we are kids that believe everything
If they are not a a migo group matching making is broken
AKA matchmaking is broken 😉🤣😂
Not in their perspective. Two happy dumb whales crushing mids is better than 2 sad ones threatening to quit over matching equals and being made to try.
Nah, there are plenty somewhat even alliances. Problem is with TOP ones who now got even more whales in transfer season. What @tardy night wrote, they make uneven matches on purpose
And the kind to ride a bandwagon is exactly why it happens. Cuz it's easiest mechanism in the game now to a victory.
Of course they do. If the whale team loses everytime, they are not spending anymore
People spend to feel strong and win, if you spenr 500k $ only to be always matched against other who spent similiar you would not feel powerfull
Yeah worst thing they've done was make joiners so important. I mean who was to spend $600-$1000 a week to be a joiner in DIE, dyx, fbi or what have you
So they matvh you against people who you can destroy in 1 hit
But of course people do and did🤣
That bar went up a bit. 2k per week to be a joiner now
Everyone else cheers from the sidelines
I am in a quite decent alliance, and we pretty much know the outcome even before the battle has begun 🤷♂️🤷♂️
This game must have so many millionaires playing it....
Pay 2K per week to be burned... that's pay to lose
But 2k a week should make you a 2nd lead? That's like 10k a month?
You can win at the puzzle games or farming still?
😆
What about In Dyz? 😂
I would be f2p there
😂
But those alliances all you need is maxed behemoths
So maybe its cheaper😂
Although they think angelica and selina stack in rallys but we need to ask saber this
I just wonder how hard they will have to go for the next special operation hero. 😆
How hard they have to fight one another for first place.
So I officially know it wasn't my phone that causes the game 6 times already. Twice durning trap and 4 times in rr. I'm using a brand new Samsung ultra
Nice officially know it was my old potato of a phone. 
Unless you're using tech you inherited from grandma, it's never your phone or pc or whatever device you're using
I know Dane but they love to place blame on you phone, internet, coverage or whatever. 😉
Sadly yes but we all know it's the potato servers
Not that they'll ever admit though
I had my iPad tested at the repair shop just in case..but it’s the game that causes the numerous crashes
I pulled up the game there and they were running test as the game crashed and the guy said no mama it’s not your device..look at another game was his advice
🤣
Numerous crashes are definitely frustrating not only when doing intels, but in the middle of events, like RR today. Crashed after a rally hit a building. Crashed after enemy march hit our building, etc. 🤦♀️
Demoncracy in these games is not good idea if you ask me
Half vote feelings if not more..others friends and then same interest
And then small % votes whats best
And people cannot accept votes
Sos and apple are a bad match, I found that out myself as well…..
It is your device that’s the problem, since it is an Apple device 🤣😂🤣
Its also pc version of game...
They told me my pc is weak
Ye.. rip my 10k+ setup
Its weak
Need 60k
If that even exist😂
I think your pc needs a behemoth
🤣😂
Pretty soon it crashes on all devices….
But they will keep saying “it’s your device”
I just constantly get matched with top 20 all whales, i just want to get diamond bishes fighting for 15 golden fragments and rss ffs
when i match them.. I don't even try 🤣
they playing pow more than F2P 🤣
they need 15 gold frags too much.. sos made them poor
Only thing they can play cause no one playing against them
Need to make money worth it
😂
the gen skipping is lousy, but the gen 13+ potion did actually come out first
Sned over to Dr. Yamikaze or whatever his name is. He'll make it plasma of course it will cost you your liver 😉
The Horde and Trap need updated/stronger options. We kill the strongest trap in the first attacks and no one burns in horde also against the strongest level.
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are devs aware lots of spenders are going to quit sos after dd? @merry scroll
Why quit after😅
👀
serious question Elizabeth?
Yes. Do it before 
They already got your money. Now they don't have a use for you
Once their bags run empty, they will come begging again
If you wanna quit after DD, why not quit before and save the $
Of course they are 😂
It’s like closing a chapter
I’m doing same
I understand... you getting gen 13-17 at once tomorrow right
Yes
RIP😵
Everyone gonna quit very soon
Their revenue dropped so hard and i love it
They can blame themselves🤦🏼♀️
On top of their revenue dropping, they keep releasing new features that is gonna kill their game even more
After many whales spent to max Angelica, they nerfed her... so KG basically slapped a lot of whales in the face
They did the same thing with Olly months ago
Just based on tower sensor which monitors Apple and Google, but not diamond store...
Just saying, check when the drops start and when diamond store been released.
Thats a great news for me 😌
Keep releasing P2P events more and more not fixing the bugs 💀
Judging by the „Going out of business“- sales lately, diamond store won‘t save them.
Please sort out fair RR match making, how is it fair we match an alliance who have 2 Angelicas and we have 0?
They don't match based on a specific hero. If you want a fair match, be in a top 20 alliance and register only yourself.
RR matchmaking is broken again 💪💪
No. It's no more broken than it was last rr 🤣
200K pointa difference in score, how is this possible, there are no alliances with similar RR score to match up with?
Alliance win loss ratio effected score.
Let's say my score in an alliance that's never played rr is 10000
When their players burn enemy rally leaders after 2 hits, something is wrong in there
If i go to an alliance that's won every rr for 4 years, my score probably gonna be like 100,000
If i go to an alliance that's never win, I'm 4 years, it probably gonna be like 1000.
But my stats don't change 🤣
We dont win RR since 3 years ago, our score should be -1000
We always fight max players, always getting top alliances, something is wrong in there
Lol. 0 wins for 3 years 🤣 that's funny
This last RR, you add all the morale from my alliance and is lower than their top player
How is that possible
I don’t think you can blame the game for not winning in 3 years
Morale is very like
Im talking to kids?
999999 morale vs 0 Or, 29 vs 28. No difference 🤣
What's your alliance and state 🤔
Well, if you were more than 10 IQ u could understand that usually if you have money to get 500 morale, means you have money to max other stats
🙄
But now I know that u dont have more than 10 so its ok
Maybe someone else can come and interact to have a more quality conversation
So, are you crying because you couldn't beat 1 mega whale or couldn't beat the other 29?
Im not crying, just saying the matchmaking is broken because they dont even try to do a fair fight
Very simple. Here's how this goes.
30 players identical p10 t12
Vs
30 players identical p10 t12
They will match.
Ok.
Now.
1 mega whale and 29 p9 t12 players
Vs
30 p10 t12 players
They can match. Because the 1 player compensates the others by having such a high score while others are lower.
Oh, I'm not even double iq, I shouldn't bother replying 🤣
Forget I said anything
I already explained that actually 🤣
Its ok, everyone deserve a second chance
Shows whose using their iq and who isn't 🤣
They have more P13, more P12, more P11, more P10, more max players, they score was over 200K points
You are trying to explain something that you dont understand
And that is why you show your low IQ, next time dont talk if you dont know
Rr doesn't use matching formula based on stats. Or actual strength.
Ultra rare tempest arm IV has 3,000,000 bp.
That doesn't have the same effect as 3,000,000 bp from troops 🤣
I understand u are mad at SOS but dont make people waste their time reading your stupidity
You had state transfer this past week? @solid rivet
Your opponent probably had state transfer also
So.
Let me enlighten you with my single digit IQ.
any players who transfer states, have a 0 rr score, so matching is absolute dog #067 that first time 🤣
First rr after transfer is the absolute worst matching
Exactly what I said 😂
Some have 0 raid score...👀
magic
I had 0...im magician 😌😂
After 4 months off, after the transfer my score were zeroed like im new player 👀
😂 dosnt matter my current generation at that time was maxed, max research, hq etc was 0 also all personal score...
Invisible &* inactive 90* days can do that too.
Was before rr so my score showed in the old state 😌 wasn't 0
I did... But in the old state my score stayed, in the new state was 0
It will catch you next rr 😜
transfer again
😍😍😍
I'm saying, going inactive 90* days and* invisible, also gets you an rr score of 0 😜
I just have no patience for bajilion heroes at once, waw... So exited
Plus all resonating heroes, new tempest...and also no support here, nobody to answer on some questions 😂 fun+ sx so bad
I did both, my score became 0 only when I transferred but not when I was inactive (which lasted around 4 months and I was off the map)
it is really tough, best to decide on 1 march worth of heroes that fight well together and focus on that, then if you can work on a second march, do that, otherwise it's overwhelming
Ours is actually 6 games now anyway, is it not like this for everyone? 😅 I think it counts KOH weeks so we’re at 12 now but having played 6 games
maybe a well-needed wake-up call? unless you think spending 10k on a pixel hero is normal 🤣 🤣
Ye but those doing dont make 2k a month
For a homeless its also ridicilous to spend on clothes while they can eat lol
Just random example
Or a car😂
I mean 2k for me might be 20 euro for you😂
yes, please carry on normalizing this game 🤣
'jealous", lmao 🤣
You basically blaming people who spend for FP their bs
Let people do what they want
But i feel like you the same type who would blame the victim not the killer lol
yes, and please keep shouting at the clouds while you are at it 😅
Anyway not the point. Back to angelica its ridicilous
They even deny
That she got "changed"
You probally the one who did this. Iknew interns was a bad idea. I told saber. He said it reduce cost so we can make more feature

this gen 16 or 17
Just here to record the general player sentiment, seems all are happy -- will report back to devs
So when they release the special operative rider, are they going to do it in the middle of doomsday and mess up again so that half of the teams can purchase them while the other half has to wait a week like they did with olly?
expect anything from devs
I expect them to nerf robbie right after people get him to max purple brain 
I love the fact that all that had to be done, was to make a few screenshots of saber's messages and now everyone can substitute for him. What a job, man...
Its crazy that its so true what you saying😂
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Just give at least 10 min queue ban to anyone who starts searching for game but fails to confirm when it finds one. It will improve players experience, no more having same person fail to confirm 10 times in a row, harder to exploit system and get matched against specific enemies too.
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Is incredibly annoying, are they hacking and can see which team are they or wtf cause is always same people doing it and do it as if they could see their team😒 every now or then i understand it but fkn 5 times in a row? Just make queue shorter so that we dont have to waste our time on people doing it
As if its not enough to lose matches more than winning cause of whales now also annoying to wait 5 minutes to play cause mofkrs dont want to click accept
Idk i think some have hacks to see their teams cause i see it on teams where none is a farm
They just check if they accept
But how do they know when it's the right match?
Then you can see
10 sec accept match and is fixed
Just accept and you see if other screen accept aswell and same square
If not then you did not match
It just makes me so sad that we need to deal with problems like that when it is 30 mins to code solution to this if someone is bad at his job... Good dev would code it within 5 mins 😒
So just as last confirmation all these 13 to 17 heroes will be blue brain regardless if they general or not right?
Yes
They all start with blue brain and first needs to be upgraded to the purple brain
why the CMs cant confirm this i dont know after all isnt it their job to manage the community, and as there has never been a gen skip of 5 before no one actually knows
unless there has been conformation that i have missed
It’s bullpoopy 😂
I only can talk about my experience... so that might be wrong, but we skipped a generation and the skipped once where all simple blue brained
Voucher store allows upgrade of 3 gens, we have 5. Even if all 5 are there, this is still incredibly unfair to all of us
Gen 7-10 only
No, my state skipped Maddie/Lucky/Nikola completely...
thats what i mean, the CMs should have been here not skivving off, its not like the lunar new year is celebrated by everyone in the game#
Beyond this, we have no opportunity to improve these heroes as we will have never gotten to do hero challenges for all of these generations
We are essentially set back over a year and are told it’s fine
Can not believe these developers are real
Sorry I misread, yes we need to start over as if these are fresh heroes
7-10 if we had general, blue was skipped and we directly went to purple
so we are to miss over a year's chance to grow and they think that is ok, Gen 13 came out when i was streaming that was a year ago
I doubt we are getting 13 at all
Yes, that was the same for us, and i totally agree that this generation skipping is annoying. But even when now many players will disagree, but the not good swapped rays helped me to catch up with that a bit... sorry for all those they hate it...🫣 but it reall helped me with the skipped generation
14-16 in rays, 15-17 in vv
Considering 13-15 have the same stats now, some 13 beat out 15, so we are even more funked
if they want to skip, they should give the part like they did in PTR1 to max
They do not care to keep a fair gaming environment as we have seen time and time again
I couldnt agree more with that, but unfortunately even when we suggested it when they started to skip, it didnt happen yet.
I believe we can safely assume the plan is to milk as many as possible until the end of the upcoming DD
And really anyone that stays beyond this is just stupid
everyone should boycott DD so no one enters it
The concept of “Age of Outreach” was implemented in game previously and would have at least kept us competitive
So why not now, with the most severe jumps in heroes
Because they do not care about their players
yeah skipping gens means missing out of events AGAIN
The CMs knew this was coming but said nothing is this how they care about the community
Fp mever really tell us anything mechanics related in advance. They tell us a feature is coming but absolutely nothing, ever, on how that feature works.
They rely on unpaid labour, both streamers and mods, to do 99% of their work.
Supplying pixels isn't really pay imo. Even if they do get bios etc, unless its also actual money its unpaid
- A. = not skipping hero generations
- B. = skipping hero generations
Stats difference at release?
- A. Yes
- B. No (advantage with same stats and knowledge of who to upgrade)
(non skip generations had this change on them) - A. players who upgraded gen 13 and especially 14 vs someone who waited for gen 15 have free stats ultimately hindering those who waited to upgrade gen 15, (they could have upgraded at gen 13 or 14 and lost a lot less in rewards vs waiting for 15)
- B. This won't be an issue for you.
Focusing on a hero you needed can become a complete waste of time, materials, effort to upgrade
- A. Yes (nikola, Trish, robert)
- B. No (advantage for everyone except whales)
Earning frags while they are "new" heroes.
- A. Yes (advantage)
- B. No.
Can you drastically reduce the gap of the hero completion level between A. & B.?
- A. Irrelevant
- B. Yes (the cost of A. Is far greater per stat% than B.)
Map searches for the 3 generations below the current generation
- A. If a player maxed any hero, they have a 1 (hero max) /9 (heroes possible) of getting a useless capsule.
- B. Not an issue (advantage)
Rays casino changes
- A. drastically decreased non skip states chances to obtain current generation hero
- B. Drastically improved their ability to obtain and level up older generation heroes.
Actual use on battlefield. Only 2 marches of behemoths so this limits the huge differential of heroes you actually need to aquire
- A. most only have low-mid purple level heroes.
- B. Short term disadvantage, long term advantage (knowledge of skills and same stats vs lack thereof)
why gen 17 right after gen 12?? What kind of nonsense is this.. someone explain.. 714 -804
Trying to get more states on same schedule so devs can be more lazy 🤣
Everyone started to hate the damn game..
That talented 3 years ago 🙄
Skip gens aren't that bad off after 3 months or so 🤷
How can the state that started 2 years ago be equal to the state that started 2 years later.. you are killing the game..
It actually has advantages
There is no advantage, I don't think developers have brains anymore
Analysis centers in 2 years time can make up for the difference in troop training.
New states have different store for a long time allowing speedups and purchase of vip points etc to help them catch the old states progress.
New new states have an easier time obtaining set sompletions and morale levels.
1st state vs 800th state... the logic is completely messed up
There tons of things new states have that old states didn't have for very long 🤣
Yall had trap damage give rewards based on damage. Not on a ser rank based upon alliance participation. So yall had that for like 9 months before it came to us. So that's pretty much helps not only with hero gear itself but the aircraft, and treasure capsules.
Many of the things you that got released in state 800 got released the same time in state 1 🤣
It's not like day 1 of state 1 p13 behemoths existed 🤣
So now you accept that the game is dead..
I hope you are smart enough to not realize the difference in power between gen 12 and gen 17..
You are writing for too long.. good night..
First off. Gen 17 isn't released worth talking about their stats by 99.99999999% of the players 🤣
Gen 16 was very difficult for many to obtain, the best most anyone of them have is probably purple Marcos. Bigger Spenders will have red easily.
But gen 17 gonna be just like 16 when it comes to how easy it is to obtain them 🤣 which wasn't easy at all.
So if you actually take the time to think about what I wrote above. You'll realize. 3 months, that's it. 3 months as a f2p player will be difficult for you. Then it's gonna be a lot easier.
If you can find a player who is f2p and spends little in 3 months 😏
they will all burn..
No need to spend. In 3 months time, your gen 16 will be almost identical to most everyone else gen 16.
Gen 17 we both earn at a horrible rate
And they release gen 18.
So. Your most recent 2 generations of heroes, won't be any different than mine, if any at all 🤣
Someone needs to tell the developers that they should ask the players some things.
now gen 12
You said you're getting 13-17 tomorrow 🤔
16 never seen
Post your inventory once.
🤣 This shows you didn't read my posts.
12 gen now.. and 17 tomorrow..
Rays casino have 2 heroes from 3 gens, vouchers have 2 heroes from 3 gens.
Predictions says.
Rays. 2 slots for gen 14.15.16 tokens
& 17 in crate + 1 slot on wheel
Vouchers. 15.16.17
So, while you spin you're pretty wheel those gen 14-16 tokens you can use for gen 16.
Most players barely have, a purple Lan because she only came from the stage target crate in rays for like 4 of the 6 times rays appeared 🤣
Most people have right at a purple marcos cause bloodsport and svs rank rewards etc.
So, you're gen 16 will drastically improve and in 3 months time will pretty much be identical to my gen 16 🤣
All while, we together are earning gen 17 as the new hero release in events.
Ok, so your gen 13-15 will be non existent by this upgrade pattern. But in 3 more months, gen 18 comes and 15 not gonna be used much by many at that point 🤣
Post your inventory once
It is possible to encounter 1-803 state within 3 months
Of hero specific tokens I have?
Everything that can be used to acquire hero progression materials.
Biocaps to stuff for ranking in sotf etc
I don't go all out like some players for every hero gen 🤣
I've went all out for gen 15 and saved pretty much everything since.
Yeah, share it once.
What do you do in svs and rr - just get zeroed to get more troops in svs, and in RR?
After one march is done.
And then see your inventory too. Then pick any random 100 players in that zone of gen skip. See their inventory. Compare it.
Do you think a variance will exist between what you have and what those people will have?
And can everyone play like you do in those PvP events.
I didn't skip hero gens 🙄 look at how many not even touched 🤣
Comparing me to the average sos player, is like comparing a college professor to elementary kid student 🤣
My helicopter is still not touched 🤣
Exactly. So it's pointless to put your example on best optimised gameplay to any average player who has not prepared anything, not knowing this was happening either.
You had 30k+ plasma, many of ours sit with 200.
What I said has nothing to do with using my main as an example base for players 🤣
It has everything to do with it because average progression will be determined by how well prepared they were.
Excuse me for being smart to see the horrible drop rate of gen 16 in rays casino and deciding to skip the hero and wait for next round when they'll be in the tokens and make it so much easier to get gen 16. 🤣
When you "invest" in Carlos, you have 500 left over in frags.
Excise me for thinking how sos has changed 13-15 to match stats and how 16 was higher, and thinking they will do the same for gen 17 🤣
I am simply saying that your case is an outlier. The people asking here are asking for an average player.
Oh, I royally screwed that up 🤣
I skipped 7 generations of heroes to go for gen 15 🤣🤣🤣
Wanna talk about hero gen skip 🤣 I went for Carlos in rays and vouchers and svs 🤣🤣🤣 then was like. Oops. Migo 3 stage ranking. Well, this gonna suck 🤣
And we haven't even talked yet of how this affects game events for you. Which everyone will not pursue as an avenue.
I have a brain. I think of upgrades and how they would work for me. I don't use cookie cutter streamers advice to tell me what to do.
90% of players in rr send their first march out of their base. Then gets burned, zeroed, and cries. 🤷
Yeah, I'm just saying that the theory you have regarding it not affecting people or events much is built from your understanding of a playstyle and a prepared inventory that's simply not tenable for 90% of non whales.
To force them into playing this manner, they would have had to start a year back - time they never got.
Cuz a year back they had gen 6-7
I've done the math, Ive look at players rallies, heroes, stats, etc. I can see how much upgrades the player who doesn't spend money can get heroes to if they go for every gen.
I know how to differentiate my experience from the overall experience the vast majority would experience.
Apparently you don't think I can do such a thing.
The way you keep telling everyone it's not affecting anything, I don't think you're figuring in where people stand in their preparation for it. At all.
No. That's you putting words in my mouth. I never said it ISN'T EFFECTING ANYTHING
^
There are advantages to skipping hero gens 🤣
What are your goals 👀
When people are prepared. When people get time to prepare. When people know it's happening. I will agree.
None of those happened to anyone who's a casual sos player in gen skip states.
Non skip states.
🤔 Wait for streamer to test heroes for you
🤔 Wait for devs to buff / nerf hero
🤔 Dont know who gonna be useful for future generations
Skip gens.
Real results show strength
Devs probably ironed out the buff / nerf by now
Can see who from gen 13 or 14 or 15 or 16 could still be good to use come gen 17 🤣
Idk. Maybe those aren't advantages and I'm dumb 🤷🙈
And remember they all were dealing with nerfed 7-12 limitless.
Skills, Laura, how many times since those tests have they changed her?
What do we gain from streamer tests - they are great till the point the vids get made. F+ changes skills on the fly.
... Maybe I should have used the word "hell"
But I want sure if bout would delete the post 🤣
Depends if you count her non limitless skill changing to a limitless skill and if you consider them buffing hero by less than 10% on one occasion a change in skill 🤣
I mean, she's what, gen 9 🤔 I can't remember, I dont bother to use her in pvp. Or trap since I got my Wolfe pretty high up there especially when I can't even upgrade her to purple brain 🤣
And i love how you previously asked me this, and I answered you, and you still ask me this again.
Exactly.
Non skip states are in the era of devs tinkering with heroes.
Skipped states, well, devs pretty much ironed out all that by then.
Lol
Will devs keep their hands off 100%,no. But odds are pretty good. If it ain't been touched for 1 - 2 generations, it ain't gonna be touched 🤣
Laura was buffed and nerfed multiple times upon the release of 7-12 being limitless.
When I say they are actively tinkering with them, I mean they are tinkering with them after those vids and recommendations have been made. 🤣😂
So, trying to use her as an example hero for my argument on buff / nerf ain't really valid because the devs haven't really settled on her for long period..
Yes. I understand that 🙄
So what guarantee do you have any of 15-18 will not be touched?
Evelyn was buffed. Angelica was nerfed. RE guy was buffed. Willy nilly changes on the fly ?
Angelica was buffed for non limitless to be better than olly and all other inf heroes without her ll skills unlocked.
Evelyn was buffed. So was Carlos too. This had a lot to do with the fact that players who skipped 13 and 14 were extremely ticked off those gens now have the same stats 🤷
Evelyn and Carlos didn't get buffed at the end of gen 16 life🤣
So when gen 17 doesn't get sold much - streamer advice on working on Carlos holds what water given cursory glance will show to them they should work on either 13 or 15 to Nerf and push 17 sales?
There's no guarantee the game will exist at 0utc.
But, when something has an extremely high proven track record at repeating history, there's a really good chance certain things don't change after a certain time
They won't just nerf 15s 🤣
They have an extremely high proven track record of deciding everything by sales numbers. Nothing else
They nerfed angelica. Soooo
15s are laughable in comparison
It was her time. Just like all the other res heroes.
Give it time, Chris, Leon, ada, they'll loooose all their glory too 🤣
🤷🏽♂️my point exactly. Nothing set in stone 🤣
Read just the first line 🤣
People still gotta play till the time it occurs or they choose to uninstall 🤷🏽♂️
Ok. How about this.
I upgraded Trish.
I used like 800 potions and 100 some completion. Capsules
I can't upgrade her unless I spend money.
Do skipped generation states have the advantage of not upgrading heroes they can no longer obtain?
Yes? :-? We can't work on anything below last 3 gens either.
Potentially won't get 13 at all
Not even blue brain 🤣
Most will not go for trish. Evelyn & Mia is what 90% will choose. Given streamer advice as you said.
Can get Evelyn.
And Mia in crates which gonna suck. 🤣
So few frags there
But see, you're not wanting to answer the simple thing.
Because it would prove skip gen state, do have advantage 🤣
It is an advantage in every aspect, no.
It is an advantage none the less, yes
You keep talking only about heroes but gen skip is so mich more.... They will be facing states that had year more to work on upgrading plasma levels or plasma research. Year of daily intel and all events plasma adds up to a lot. Year of purifying plasma in a building adds a lot. It all matters.
Sure, in high end difference will be miniscule because whales have everything maxed but everyone else will be affected and a lot weaker than average player from a state that had extra year of time
So skip gen state initially have a very difficult time, yes.
Can the gap is stats be made up very quickly, yes.
You see it as an advantage to skip gens cuz you're prepared for it. There's not really much to say there when you are not seeing that average random person is not prepared fo it.
Most everyone only complains about heroes 🤣
I didn't rant to open that can of worms 🤣
Plasma, actually. Is not as much of a factor as you may think.
Again ignoring the inventory altogether. Compare anytime 🤣
Average 100 random players
My Inventory has nothing to do with this argument 🤣
It's 0utc, have fun arguing uselessly
It is everything, when you add plasma levels/research, crystal research, heli/aircraft, behemoths materials etc. It all adds up to a lot during whole year
Nice description, they totaly tested it before update :p
Small Indie company
So great when in migo group your state is only 1 that did not merge last week. Going to be fun
Why is the bundle for previous MIGO available?
Feeding frenzy closed 😄 and in migo task 😄
Stupid gens how are we supposed to even unlock all those mfking heroes?
So how much we hate devs? Yes.
Surely you can max 15 heroes at the same time!
In digging no Fragments for new heros? And i got in 7 diggs no frags.
- We want new frags
- is the rate reduced for the frags?
Yeah seems to be just giving the basic stuff, got the chest that usually gives frags or positioning chip and only gave the basic box contents😅
whales must've complained that f2p were able to beat them in the first week of hero challenge because they got free frags from saved precision chips 😂
a lot of new bundles 🤣
Can someone explain this to me please
They mean upgrading the new heroes I am assuming ,what's certain heroes can my rusty be a certain hero cause he is
I really think sos had gone bonkers. Now they giving the riddler a run for his money
Everything is beyond vague but downright stupid
What is this?
I dont know whsts happening in the game tbh
I only see bundles
Half stuff dont work
Well
The biggest joke is RR store, still Gen 11 after throwing 5 generations on our faces. They want us to leave for sure lol
I heard there was 3 buildings is that true?
Also feeding frenzy ended so not sure what were meant to do about that
"discount" rng to level up 5 gens
Yea where tf are those
Nothing will be fixed tho cause lUnAr nEw yEaR for devs
Doomsday still got 7-12 potions too
100% of them didn't work for me either
No mines, intel again gives t1, typical start of Migo.
Are there no crystal mines anymore?
I mean all you need to do is do dailies and get capsules from vouchers via biocaps.
Then buy capsules from migo shop and new gen hero unlocked day1
Hey, don't spoil my group G 
Hello,
What’s up with this migo match up?
Last one was fairly even states put together… but this one we went back to the old ways it looks like they just grouped the closest state numbers together?
We have leading states matched up against trailing states??
I used one, thought I was gaining gen17 token, I didn't ...I went check in rewards and the capsule Nikola guy was there but even the 100% chance of Nikola that I don't need anymore I didn't get.
Gods what is this? How are legendary badges a thing? They haven't been useful since gen 7. Devs you suck.
Oh and koth betting coins are gone. No saving for things! Earn it in a single season or we take it off you. Gfy players
Well new Tempest arms are just as crappy as before…

Why is feeding frenzy on migo today as if its something i can do? Feeding frenzy ended yesterday
That is rhetorical
Hello Aramis, I also noticed those were not accessible. My guess is we can probably expect it to show up ingame shortly, if not later today then sometime this week. It was implied the feature would not be removed as the per update in #⭐︱game_information, and would rather be expanded with the addition of the Alliance Mine. That in particular is set to release before the end of the month. Hope that helps!
madness? THIS IS SOS
Spend on the new heroes! Earn points! Spend spend spend. Revenue still dropping and we don't know what to do
Look global leaderboard
😂😂
Vega already maxed mia
More bundles please
They didnt release enough yet😂
See thats part of their stupid problem. People can max stuff on day one... that shouldn't be a thing. Those people need to actually play the game
If you don't actually want to play, why are you? Just donate money to fp instead
Many states had many different rewards amounts for items.
Let's also consider, since the dawn of time in some states, gen plasma existed allowing for automatic 50% cost towards t11 which is required to mass produce t12. So that's a huge difference there. But I'm being you forgot about that little boost though didn't you.
Ok. Now, let's take into considerations analysis centers which allow for greater speed at finishing certain things.
Let's also not forget how some states has events done other states never had, how some states also had double the amount of rewards in their weekly store than other states.
Alliance store had speedups, vip points, etc for a very very very long time before our state got to be on your screwed up alliance store system 🤣. Let's not forget about all these times little things that over the course of a year, drastically adds up.
So instead of societies on buying item A from the store, you buy item B
Also. Let's not forget one very very important thing here.
The time line for crystals, that's not really relevant considering it was released in more states than it was not released in when it was implemented in the game. So that's really not even a thing.
Regarding behemoths the only thing you can really complain about here is upgrading the Dino because you had just as much monkey intel and monkey rallies as anyone else was allowed. So yes. You're ever so slightly behind in that aspect because I believe it was released to 700s about a month after we had it in our state. Whoopty do. 30 days.
You know how much difference 30 days of Dino intel makes 🤣🤣 1 upgrade 🙄if that.
You had years to leech information from the early states for knowing how to maximize your gameplay.
Must suck you can't do that anymore 🤣
I wonder what’s the thing some people actually lacking irl for them to jump like that on a gambling game 🤔
Dunno. Fminus seem to like them a lot but it does nothing at all for the games fairness, gameplay, longevity or anything else.
If whales max on day one they're immediately bored amd the company has to release new stuff even more constantly
New heroes that start off as limitless still have an underlying rank structure. So it's no longer just locate the hero,, according to the text, you gotta do a few upgrades as well 🤣
Lacking in real... depends in what way i guess
Cause clearly they capable
Maybe social.. maybe physical.. maybe something else😬😂
Or they have daddys
Colonel is last upgrade stage tf 😂
No you have to do whatever this is
And is bugged cause located one and badge is locked
Quality control maybe
Mines bugged the other way. I have located none of them and all the unlocks for locate have unlocked
And for any mods watching. No I'm not reporting a bug they can find that themselves or start working on our feedback from the last 2 years
I doubt he cares
It's Chinese New Year, all FP staff is cruising in their Lambos on their ships somewhere
supposed to have another hidden upgradeable gatcha building inside together with exploration project, but its not showing up... great to see them release the bundles first.
Are we supposed to use token on migo feeding frenzy task?’it’s not playable
What are we even suppose to do
😂
Just hurry and buy bundles without knowing if what is in them is a lot, a little or next to nothing because building that uses that will be added later 🤣
I am lost
I located one hero, got 1 for 50 points unlocked.
Got 6/7 for one, got 1/7 for another.
Who knows what's going on. They got the labels all wonky. The icons just. I don't even know anymore with this thing.
What I do know is. The research book doesn't look changed and the small addition of materials appears to make this book impossible to finish (like last season) without buying bundles. So there's that perception so far.
In 3 months, skipping 5 gens won't even really be an issue for players 🤣
Someone already cleared 20 times but we can’t play 🤔
It was running over the weekend. Note the stupid 21h remaining clock that they dovat the end for the store. The screwed up. As usual
it'll restart on thursday
Again. I'm not average. I hoard items. Also, this is my phone. The average person doesn't have an emulator running while streaming TV while having sos loaded as well 🤣
I should have split screen to just to make it more entertaining 🤣 but I hope you get the picture. 🤣
You're kinda making my point for me there. 🤣🤷🏽♂️
I'm talking of 100 random accounts. To show effects at large. 🤣
Take 100 random old state and gen skip state accounts. 🤷🏽♂️
Don’t want
you cannot escape potato event
Players who hoard items will be far far far better off than players who don't when it comes to skipping generations of heroes. They easily be able to max out a gen 16 hero when in a gen 17 state easily from rays casino alone during the entire season
They would roughly be able to get about 3 heroes red in 2 releases of heroes.
So, if you look at my previous explication, you will see, that's not the information is used to formulate my comparison. 😘
So, you think just because I have ample materials in my backpack, I'm unable to differentiate horde, non hoard, skip gen and non skip gen players.
I can. It's not that difficult if you're actually smart enough to be able to figure out for yourself and for others how they should upgrade based on their design of their account.
Upgrade 3 new heroes to that point is a reasonable demand to max these tasks in 7 days or not
Literally no one said you are unable to differentiate between those. Read what I'm writing 🤣
Good luck with being smart while fartplus changes skills on the fly. Lmao smart.
You the same guy who was complaining a bit earlier about losing out on gen skip that you decided to do when they boosted 13-14 to be same stats as your 15s. Yeah?
But how tho? All these potions are advanced potions we only had the other ones, and who f2p can hoard so many biocaps 😂 specially now that ray sucks for fragments more than ever
Is stupid yea
and for 50 capsules 🤣
I complained the older gens with weaker stats got a free boost to be stronger.
If i knew gen 13 and 14 were gonna match stats of 15 then I could have gone harder on the gen 13 and would have earned more rewards and been better off come later generations of heroes. 🤣
That's not exactly the same thing considering states who skip gens, will already be placed in an environment with heroes at the same stats so all they have to do is look at experience feedback, data for what heroes should be prioritized based on their particular account build. 🤣
It could be related to they don't know they're going to skip gens of heroes. Ok. And they have to cram in a bunch of knowledge in a short time, but that's not exactly the same thing as skipping them, only for them to become relevant later because of a free stat boost.
Right now, anyone with a partially functioning brain can foretell gen 18 will have the same stats as 16 and 17. Therefore it's only a matter of guessing what gen 18 skills will be like in comparison to 16 and 17.
So, that's everyones games skipped gens and not.
😞🤔
You earn 1.5 times the amount of potions as you do capsules on a general guideline.
Vouchers, 10:1 / KOH you get potions but 0 capsules / daily hero challenges you get I think 8 so 56 a week 🤔 and then you also get capsiles and potions for ranking. So, generally, f2p, you gonna have more potions than capsules. If you just do basic gameplay and events.
And if you happen to rank high in svs, you get so much potions to capsules it's not even funny 🤣 the ratio between capsules to potions is that of like badges to mercenary influencers 🤣 so much of one, hardly any of the other.
Even rank like 50 or whatever it is in svs you get more potions than capsules 🤣
Potions are much too rare compared to the use case for them especially as they're basically the new gold badges and we get gold badge all over the place.
Actually,can't even play hero challenge now cos it insists on current gen and i have none of them...
Great, now tell us which gens they will nerf too in case 17 doesn't sell too great. And then what they will adjust to make sure 18 sells better.
And then the stat adjustment middle of doomsday when they want to make their TA sell better. Which one will be affected?
That's your problem for you not thinking ahead. I spend $0 and I have a hero. 🤷
You keep talking about. What if this. What if that.
How about. What if..... They don't nerf them 🤷
What if sos says. Fk everyone and pulls the plug. 🤣
Historic trend - they nerf them.
Are the old boxes current gen now?
Yes. And they typically do it to all 3
From Migo store + vv, get mia
What if. They boost gen 3 to have 9999% stats 🤷
I suspect it's gonna be overpowered counter system tempest arms that make everyone suddenly see the light of their Lord and Savior, Control build (which I don't see completed very much)
but it could be a giant wolfman so that we finally complete that old Rampage video game, but with behemoths
Rv infantry, and that negates Donald pretty much.
Leon with mia
Ada on carlos
And you would think you're team gonna be pretty unbeatable.
But it won't be.
Thats not me not thinking ahead, thats me not looking in the migo store. Ok i have 1. Shame she's a rider. Bigger shame its even needed, why can't i use whatever i like in the stupid challenge
yeah but if the tempest arms add some ludicrous amplification that triggers on counter, people will want all builds
Be happy they aren't forcing you to use all 3 like early on. 🤷
just in terms of what the Doomsday cash grab will be, I mean
possibly a new generation of tanks, also
There's quite a few tempest skills that are really underrated and even a couple old heroes that used to be op. Have some use, but most people don't think about it because they stopped being op 🤣
but I think they put that in the rules already
true, bu it's easier to just add the new counter system arms that they already announced, then people scramble to complete more heroes that they were "neglecting"
or the wolfman
spaceship that abducts your opponents troops, resulting in permanent capture, it'll be something
[Saberlot: oh.. no..]
My Wolfeman red 🤷
I'm mostly kidding about the old 1986 arcade game "Rampage", which featured a giant gorilla, lizard and wolfman destroying a city
I find it funny how spamdaplanscape mentions "lmao smart"
I've setup a player weaker than cardin to beat her.
I've figured out how to achieve 360,000 duty rate regen faster and longer than anyone. Dialing in on their formula slowly.
Figured out the magical number for svs
Figured out their formula for how useless paratrooper effect really is a wasteful upgrade for the formation system.
Figured out on my own (MKR did it sooner but he posts a lot of videos and I didn't see that one) about the Behemoth trials and corner camping 🤣
I've definitely figured out a lot more than most. And I don't use cookie cutter advice. 🤷
I've mentioned that before. We have george and lizzie. Just need ralph
AI robot named musk. ☺️
We can call him musky 🤣
I still think we're going to get boats / ships before Behemoth 3
New plane
Zeppelin or flying saucer.
Or a 2 in one and the resurrect a pteranadon so we have a plane behemoth
I forget who said it, but I'm in agreement with whoever said that the tanks are essentially behemoth 3
Me 🤣
there you go then
Essentially. Yes.
Exactly. No.
They'rea bit friendlier to upgrade f2p than the monkey
Great news about Koth.
Your alliance ranks are predetermined by your previous wins. So your matchups will be based on the standings you hold.so,depending how good you were in your old state group, now depends on being introduced to the new state group 🤣
they're easier, it's got 2 things to pump up, but also you can't strategize them the way you can with the batteries
Tanks is like Behemoth 3 with the "ease of upgrade" for formatting system 2.0..... Which is simply a lie on ease of upgrade, I like formation 1.0 so much better, but mainly because of the rest button 🤣
Wish I had a rest button for formation 2.0
Id start killing a lot more players 1v1 🤣
I really wish they'd offer a 1 time reset, or a reset for some number of biocaps that would be hard for people to swallow, yet doable
like 50k or something
1 time would be better
1 a month for 5k sounds great.
return items that can't be used for points
Easy to make that items a thing.
Make it like a skinny silver/ gold tactical point, 0 points in event.
Easy to do.
Devs be lazy though
yeah it wouldn't really be hard, but that's also why it'd be easier to make it once and only once, then people could use it for points but it'd be a speed bump and it's over for like 1 SVS
Of they fixed the formula for how it should work. Vs how it actually works.... I wouldn't reset mine really. I would. But only to adjust the few points I've applied after figuring out how broken it really is 🤣
Actually fixing the displayed formulas and then giving the 1 time reset would be lit
Some of the big you tubers don't realize their data mined text tells them one thing. But it don't show them the formula for how it actually is calculated which is a completely different story.
Think the skill at 190 being level 2 has more effect than all of paratrooper combined 🤣 been a few weeks since I looked at the reports and replays and all the displayed data but last I knew. That's about how useless that entire section is 🤣
Sadly. Even that becomes a ton less effective at later stages when you upgrade past a certain point on other nodes 🤣
So upgrading stuff at a certain point. Pretty much makes you weaker 🤷
What a great sos system we have
If sos devs worked for nasa designing and testing everything, all positions would be available after the first test because they would be in coffins
One change I am happy about is more migo "badge" tasks. I think it might even be possible to get to last reward chest without doing get 3mln alliance duel merit and unlock 100 migo skills tasks which are tasks I failed last time :p
They nerfed a lot 
Tell me you’re killing the game without telling me your killing the game
Make it make sense
These devs can’t align anything correctly
I located mia and the locatipn badge is still locked
everything is bugged asf
Why don’t devs salary gets bugged closed too 😒
I had to unlock a bunch of other heroes for Mia badge to open up 😂
I used FP logic 🤓
Looks like the logic holds with the new system mail they sent
Shame the mail doesn't say "sorry we're useless and screwed up" as well
What event can we still use 16 heroes on per the mail?
Im confused 🙄 why we only have gen 13-14 story missions
.... whatever that means 🤣
Clear as mud like all communication from the devs
Is there a downside to waiting a day for the Gen 17 anyway at this point? There is no other event that would reward for using hero fragments
so the Devs supa dupa peice of 💩 wasnt fit for purpose, there is a surprise, so when will we hear that those responsible for it have been fired, its about as useful as the CMs are
how about Troop drill? Hero Challenge?
Good point. Okay. So it completes faster
Why can’t we even get the new hero’s with 15k bios at the value voucher. Like 20 just for a crate
Seriously
I think it means you can upgrade the previous gen to do the challenges in the migo building. But yeah, clear as mud
Maybe these badge thingies
It also says to colonel which is miles down the track so neither is a fun option for all 3 unless they wanna actually start handing out potions
can the Devs hire someone who knows what they are doing
They did. The ubisoft guy. The problem there is what he knows how to do is overprice things
I don't think any competent dev is still working on SoS. They have a new game which they push now
A day?
As we know it is holiday for them.
Last time they also put in new stuff in the game, had holiday and the mess they caused was only cleaned days after…
Without communication
So, same old same old?
so those of us who have already located the 3 Gen 17 get nothing or what? and how can we use Gen 16 if we cant get them till rays place tomorrow. Mods need to drag the CMs here kicking and screaming if necessary to explain this BS
Those tasks run for the whole season. I'll gladly consider fup to be incompetent but I'm not going to stress
All the cm’s do is say: “I will check with the devs”
but what about Hero Challenges which are weekly and now delayed so those who could do them at reset will have an advantage
The bonus in troop drill is negligible. Your next task isn't even available when even the sliw version finishes
They say 2/12 and Feb 13th as though that is a big difference 😂
Hero challenges, you just need 1 hero of the current gen. As i found earlier, theres an unlock in the migo store
This is par for the course in them being useless but i really wouldn't stress unless youre somehow an f2p lead
but is that affected by this announcement?
or a low spender lead
Wolfe, carlos, mia. Can play the challenges
Wolfe carlos maddie, cannot. And mia is the hero in migo store
There is no unique story mode
if you don't have the recommended heroes, it's not going slower - you get less rewards. If it makes a significant difference is a different question
its a total screw up, goes to show what happens when things are NOT tested and rushed into the game, The entire QA staff should be fired, Where was the Testing this time @merry scroll
which testing team? 🤣
We have to buy the bundle to unlock these migo buildings or it is still not started? (Second ss comes from PTR, it is not available on live for me)
well yeah we know their isnt one
They let players test it a bit in PTR
they said these buildings will be released in 1 week
It just says "extra rewards" doesn't say what those are. Anyone know?
Obviously their communication skills are ... not sufficient
no they give everything so that content creators can make videos for them, to showcase the latest BS
true
thats what PTR is really for, not to test anything
I guess it's so buggy at PTR that players don't even report the dozens of bugs
That and to test the version number changes successfully. Its for rollout not testing
Thank you
Most professional community manager
Saw that in previous Drills but never bothered. I thought it was reduced time as well which I agree isn’t the same as a reward
thought them just meant the 2 BORING story rewards that no one reads
Don’t send ss just spend one coin 🪙🤣🤣🤣
I did 🥲 at least they reimbursed
😂😂 saw that
If its just those the extra matters even less. Do 5 a day and you get all those anyway.
Does anyone know for the states that just got Gen 13-17. Were gen 13 and 14 meant to go right to purple brain if at General?
Currently they are at the lowest level of blue brain
That’s correct. Generation 13+ is not like 12 and below.
Do reserve players all earn DD prizes as well
Without playing
Trying to figure if it we should register all or let them play L2 if that’s possible
There is no l2 in doomsday
And can only register the usual 30 +15 reservist
And if you dont win and get the next round you cant even change the participants so choose wisely
Or badly if you want it to end quick🤣
even that didn't work last time as no one wanted to do it
you can change registrants between qualifying and elimination rounds. no summit if your alliance registers for doomsday. all registrants should get victory rewards but not participation rewards, the whole alliance gets the alliance rewards.
Doomsday is a law unto itself
you're going to be group A anyway, i'd register everyone as long as they are okay with missing summit. some folks are temp joining other alliances not doing doomsday so they can keep doing summit.
my alliance isnt registering so we can have a break
exactly what i have been saying for 2 weeks but everyone forgot exactly how bad it is as an event
probably, normally are for any type of league
Why personal assistant is saying that people can play RR if not registered and in community everyone are saying the same as last year and no RR summit… where is the truth? 😩 did anyone else asked assistant? I mean GM
they said the same thing last year until it was too late
But this is completely different things.. and affecting participants lists a lot 😭 will we have any clarification here from mods or any official news? 😭
I moved to younger state and now weekly deals just chief and hero gear? but when SvS coming we getting still older state and they have in weekly deals badges, more chief gear, it is not fair game.... I always think that things should be same... So it means in transfer event players lossing something, last time friends moved to younger state there was no green plasma...
thats becausev they dont know or in the case of the CMs cant be bothered to do anything
Where are our betting coins. Why were they stolen?
Removed from backpack again ;D
Its actually hidden in the koth information. So they can pretend we shoukd have known. Cos everyone reads their poorly written event rules over and over again...
Unfortunately it's written in the rules in koth information as cyan said, I saved bunch of them too, now all gone 
5 Gen s of heroes is too many, especially when a General gets put back to a rookie, THe CMs dont ever play the live game and the Devs have no idea thinking that everything works like it does in PTR , talking of the CMs where are they, still skiving off?
they do naff all when they are here anyway
The general should still be a general. No change in BP. They're just at the bottom of blue brain. My maddie was general when gen 13 kicked off and stayed that way. Just have to progress the brain up. Gen14 is the same. Gen15+ behaves more normally
I understand the frustration shadowlord, I myself play in 782, lot of players are unhappy about this. I know this will not help but Gen 13-15 have same stats and Gen 16-17 have same stats as well. I know it still unfair but it's better than nothing 
so you have to decide what gen to do with a lack of stuff
lack of potions for 5 gens
Sure, and what exactly is the point then? They can just set 15,16,17... Or devs are waiting people to buy buy buy for old gens wich gens old state get em on normal way
You can do 1 from each. I did maddie, wolfe carlos. Didn't decide for next step up. Potions remain the biggest stopping point f2p anyway
they need to remember this is not the PTR where potions are given out
I want to convert all my gold, purple and blue badges to potions. At a rate of 2:1 5:1 & 10:1. As the badges are useless and i should get something from them
I agree they should be a better way to earn potions when we get 5 gens at same time
And if i thought that had a shot of making it into the game I'd do a feedback post. It does not so I'll just complain
the CMs or someone with a Funplus tag should step up and answer
They have time to create new bundles every week, but no time to update and polish their old events like pz,ff, trap, and infected rewards, oh yeah horde...
Ignore the funplus tag. Those people are as useful as wet toilet paper in this discord. Shouldn't even be a tag
then the Tags should be removed from them
I played enough games to make difference, these guys are the worst support ever
The cms are similar but theres a CHANCE with them the funplus tag not so much. Haven't been told why thats still a thing. If they post nothing and have no input in sos then make them plebs like the rest of us
I know you guys are tired of hearing this, but if we submit a feedback and get people's vote we can pass this info to dev team
No cyan I mean a better way to earn potions
you mean so they can take notice like they did with the roses feedback, sorry but the system doesnt work
Its been raised, many times afaik
They did it... New event with bundles 🤣
It shouldn't really need to be raised. The limiting factor should be the capsules, but you generally have enough to go some distance into purple. What you don't have is the required potions
Wheres the wiki, gonna math
i don't like bot
I was being specific to the current situation
At least for the time when they f put 15 heroes for upgrade 🤣
Wiki useless. Reddit useless. How many stupid potions do you need to get a hero to purple?
around 1.5 k
Its not 3k to get a hero just to purple.
And it freezes like 6-7 seconds
I guess i can pay attention when i purple brain my next one which i haven't decided on yet
1680 without the skills, 3x600 for the skills
they just add futures without update old events
intel still hero badge
Capital still badges
bunkers
etc etc
Imagine how much delulu dev team is...Add exploration missions for gen13-14 and drop 13,14,15,16,17...also no hero items for the old gens... Where is the logic 🤣
i don't think they think.. just press buttons
Already pretty sure after they add bundles for gen16 but current gen is 17... And start Migo without mines but with 150 bundles

Sunday match? So no rr?
not enough players bought bundles so they added it again 😂
Or we get double ghosts everywhere lmao
who registered in DD, can't play regular RR
Yes, but see schedule. Doomsday qualifiers show on Sunday - can their servers manage that overlap
don't think
Last time stuff overlapped, people saw shadow hq all over the map including those in the other legion lol
they should send mail " stay attend for new round of bugs"
Already feel the bugs all over my body, crawling
Note: If you have already registered to participate in the Doomsday Open season, you will not be able to participate in the regular Reservoir Raid.
sorry, but still not clear. can't play AS ALLIANCE or can't play AS PLAYER?
@merry scroll
1680 sounds more like what I'd expect. Ignoring skills. 1680 is a lot still. Rr store they're horribly expensive. Koth store the same. If you don't play and lose, then its only 6 of them. (I can't play, time zones) theres more in other stores and you earn them sometimes, but its nowhere near 1680 each for 15 heroes, not even over time
Saberlot : as player
where was it? 😅
like last DD.. who didn't register on RR, they were able to do RR
° if you take part in DD you cannot take part in RR
° If you do not take part in DD, you can take part in RR
last time it was main matches on a sunday with losing bracket on thursday
we were not playing DD as alliance and did regular summit, so I have no idea how things work for those who were playing DD season 1. Also most of the people here are saying they couldn't play RR because alliance was registered for DD last time. why everyone is saying different and the official info is still not clear??
if DD only... then that's is mess
I would congrats Devs team on that work...
most alliances have around 60 players doing RR
as ALLIANCE or as PLAYER?
Dd - one legion - 45 play stuff. - no rr
Rr - 2 legions - 60 + reserves can play - no dd
That was last time. Need clarification if rr still goes ahead since this time matches of DD are on Sunday which should not have happened.
Player
Where you getting that info? 🤔
🤦♀️ devs wants my death
this was the case during the previous DD
Yes , we are saying that match overlap on Sunday (which wasn't the case last time) might mean this status might have changed. Please check with any other CM if nanami or saber aren't around.
Mmm, what terrible Thursdays we get: trap (every 2 weeks), dino raids (every 2 weeks), RL, duels, battle royale... Do you want us to live in the game?
why i cant check the crates what is inside?
Sure! I will send an question to CM
which crates?
reset game
they will not answer before its too late like last year
They want your soul 

thanks it works
I hope no this time
you're welcome
I miss times when we had reservoir raid Saturdays and Sundays and league Sundays
koth betting coins are gone. you should have at least warned the players that they will vanish instead of expecting everyone to read the fine print.
I would like to have RR/DD/KOTH on Friday or Saturday..
sending a system mail about this shouldn't be that hard considering it is done for far less important things
In the rules. They declaim all responsibility. I'd prefer to have them back though
people work on a Friday , they tried that with the legion before the first Doomsday, it failed
again, it's not realistic to expect everyone to read and understand their fine prints. they are specifically written to not be understandable easily.
"We told you in a stupid snippet of text insidesomething no one reads"
We can write feedback about it an 1k people vote on it and then it gets ignored 
I didn't check it today
I had 12k so it's gone .. thanks 🤣
they cannot get rid of responsibility by just saying "it was in the rules"
Participation is voluntary, not mandatory
of course it would unless we find something that would bring more revenue
They've avoided responsibilities on all sorts of stuff. This is no different. They suck
resistance is also futile
well we all know they have the communication skills (and brains) of a rocking horse
We are sos, your wallet will be assimilated?
*will join the hive

I know they won't fix it and I know it's their usual MO but still, I will come here and vent until they close this server too
Well my 15k are also gone, so let's make group hugs
Thats why I'm here. Don't wanna vent in game
*voluntary, not mandatory ofc
I don't need a reason to hug you 😏
He's on vacation, Chinese New Year, remember
When it comes to this garbage most people need a hug. Except the devs, who need a lobotomy
He's the chauffeur
maybe we all should get therapy sessions and sue the company for expenses lol
that's kinda what I do for a living so...
I don't think the therapist would accept epic search maps and biocaps for their time
Waiting for Mufasa with court toupee still
What about Rusty frags?
Or Sarge?
Tomatoes
with the current prices, they might accept oil as payment too
I have gas
If someone doesn't leave 20k gas on a level 9 tile, then I need it for healing
we usually have 1 or 2 days to use coins... when event end.. why they removed betting coins 🤦♂️
🫰
to be sure.. others coins for koth summit will be recycled?
Because you don't read so it's not their responsibility (I also don't read obviously)
Me neither 😭
I still had the other one's this morning
could save it or?
Yeah I had from the season before too
No saving allowed. Can't have people buying a frame...
their info is wrong... need it english to read it. because game translation not good...
I used them this morning, removal must have been quite a bit after reset I reckon?

