📋︱feedback-discussion

[deft arch]

I highly doubt that.

They made it loud and clear over the course of 4+ years they do not give a f about what players want.

If they really wanted to earn the communities trust back, they would inquire with players about changes before they happen and make the appropriate changes as soon as possible.

Instead, we’re still getting negative changes nobody asked for time after time again and an unwillingness to revert changes when the player base tries to voice their opinions.

Ray’s Place was a slap in the face, then they promised to change it back and gave us 1 possible frag on the wheel and called it “fixed”

They knew exactly what we wanted and still did not meet expectations

It is on purpose

[foggy osprey]

Nuuh I know it looks bad if we take it like that but let me show you something.

[woven spire]

Maybe google translator dont work

And they think we want more

[foggy osprey]

Look on this post from Becca, our mods worked hard on this feedbacks and look they are listening #🎬︱developer_feedback message We just need to keep going and dont give up

[woven spire]

They using deepL now?

Works better?

[proud dagger]

Why is the Pluton notification only popping up after somebody has already beaten it? Every time we get into the event, we are 30-45 seconds into the 10min buff from somebody defeating it.

[woven spire]

PTR people spend real money some

They dont give enough materials

And heavily favour some people

[deft arch]

Yeah I’m not seeing 1 topic there that was actually helpful or that many people really care about except a very select few, so I don’t know how that should change my perspective

[woven spire]

By giving them 220mil behemoth power and lvl 7 angelica selina max skills

Looks like a good test server for me

Ye they definily not listening

Next update = new feature

We did not had feature for 2 weeks now if we dont count all moral selina events

Maybe their revenue 100mil in Q2

Wonder if those keep playing who keep revenue up if everyone gone😂. Imagine having a great game and destroying it yourself

[bleak wolf]

Im missing Pluton too
Looks like he’s a popular guy

[deft arch]

Yep they still don’t understand that you still have to keep the other 99% of the playerbase happy in order for the game to survive.

Why would the whales continue spending if there’s nobody to play with anymore 😂

[woven spire]

Ye they just hope they all go 1 alliance

But if you look leaderboards

Even that they quit

Look cansu quit

Khalid quit

Prof quit

Their strategy works dam well😂

[vernal moss]

Hi chief, if you have any suggestions regarding this issue please do let us know in #📋︱feedback-reporting as it is indeed a serious problem as of late that we need something to keep players interested.
Please do check out #📋︱feedback-how-to before doing so.

[unreal lichen]

I've seen his notification once or twice. But it's a small one and only seems to appear when I'm out of ammo.

[mighty gorge]

It's kinda cute that you think this is them listening. The proof is if they change their ways and make actual real changes, and by this I don't mean some random in game minorities

[unreal lichen]

Hard to say if my co mod is cute because they're invisible, but I agree with them that there's definitely change made as a direct result of folks here.

[mighty gorge]

Not what i said, unless it was a joke but as I said, this is just words. I could pull each of those points in the feedback apart. It hasn't changed anything, yet.

I like the moderation team (mostly) but this blinkered view of everything is getting a little old.

[ember mantle]

We like you too (mostly) sorry couldnt resist, we really do like you too

[mighty gorge]

Touché lol

[unreal lichen]

I think all the players here on the server and mods alike would definitely appreciate a big roll out of major changes with direct explanation or linkage to feedback. It would improve opinions and morale so very much.

[faint flint]

What a surprise. Saw a Utube video. If it’s true it says that the sos game profits for 2023 was almost half of what they made in 2022. 2024 will probably be half of 2023 the way it’s going.

[bleak wolf]

It’s a warning or a promise ?

[faint flint]

Wake up devs and start working out the difference of smell between 💐and💩

[ember mantle]

I agree so whole heartedly with you. I know we have achieved some small changes through feedback and I have to accept that my role is small in the scope of things as well. There have been times when the community has unified in such numbers that change not only happened but it happened very quickly. This gives me hope and allows me to be able to come in here and suggest feedback, or voting on feedback.

[deft arch]

The MODS here have been KG’s punching bag for the community for so long, you can tell they themselves don’t like the playerbase and have an us vs them mentality with how they reply to players overall lmao

“Oh youre angry? Boo who” is basically what you get if you try expressing your discontent with the game

[ember mantle]

I hope you have never ever felt that from me or any of my replies. I very much enjoy my time in here communicating with the members of this community and trying to help in whatever way I can. I dont really get mad because I am just not an angry person, but discontent with some things in the game, oh yes many, many times have I felt that, but I do have to maintain a professional demeanor while still being friendly and approachable. Plus I also need to remember just who it is who affords me the ability to come in here and try to help.

[unreal lichen]

We've got some fantastic folks here like my teammate above! Theres really nothing productive from anger so we try to not feed into it or show it ourselves

[deft arch]

Ah so that’s why all the changes in Dev feedback are only the ones a majority do not care about cause you guys avoid the ones that people are actually angry about.

Some dude and his 5 buddies suggest a fix to Azurtane Heist in a calm matter cause it’s literally not a big deal.

But when a change that actually affects the entire community and they are furious about it, those get skipped cause they’re angry and “you don’t feed into anger”

That makes a lot more sense

I work in escalations, do you know how quickly I would get fired if I avoided angry people? Lmao it’s literally part of your job that you signed up for ya know

[stable cosmos]

I frequently feel talked down to when the mods roll out the handbook responses. The mods behaving like people is fine. The inflexible garbage gets to me a lot more though.

We are players too
I understand your frustration
Do you need help submitting a feedback report?
Discussion of games outside of sos is prohibited

I hate that last one with a passion. We are not discussing that game, we are comparing it to sos. This is precisely why the rule exists though cos 2 man studios do a better job than fup do

[unreal lichen]

It's hard to convey tone so often times the responses come across canned and vanilla

And that's a very good point about the game discussion

[unreal lichen]

Avoid angry people no that's not the goal. If people are just being angry and wanting to vent we provide a safe space for that. But if someone can be angry and still eloquent and provide constructive feedback that's what we're looking for

Unfortunately present company excluded too few people can be helpful while they're mad

[magic anchor]

when is this feature going to work for everyone?

[unreal lichen]

Typically it's a few weeks to months of testing of features in live before they roll out. I don't believe I've seen it in my state so can't comment personally on the feature.

[magic anchor]

lol didnt know test is still a thing 😂

[stable cosmos]

Most likely next big patch it'll show. And of course you have to wait for state transfer event. And their rollout design is relatively incomprehensible. Its deployed to a subset. Then everyone else. The deployment to a subset has no bearing on testing either. They're just checking it deploys. Not that it works as intended

[unreal lichen]

Seems like it. Rolling things out to a subset of state and seeing what the reaction is. Of course feedback and discussion is helpful here so if you have any thoughts about it, please share

[dry violet]

Can you open a file on my feedback please? 🙏😂

It’s got 50 upvotes now

Help ussss

[steel musk]

need 5k to make devs think about it.. and 60 mil to make devs doing it

[unreal lichen]

Here's your feedback! Thanks for posting. #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[tame jackal]

Good morning @feral sinew . Any information about the return of EFFORTLESS PROGRESS to help f2p and low-spending? Or will they just continue with 100% p2p events?

[fringe shadow]

Can Survival Royale go back to 30 participants? It takes much longer to find a match now it seems….and one game takes longer than before too. We need to play 3 times for MIGO. No one has enough time for this plus the ten million other things we need to do in game. 😅. Is there an existing feedback I could upvote on or can a MOD who can help me write one?

[stable cosmos]

The trick is to take your initial rewards and yeet yourself into the poison to just end the match.

[silk heath]

Hi. There isn't any updates on Effortless Progress since it was last mentioned here #🎬︱developer_feedback message

[fringe shadow]

True, I was trying to survive a bit longer to get a bit more rewards, since I wasn’t able to pick up anything, and it’s so crowded I can’t land in any buildings. Before I would just run into a whale after collecting some crates and crystals. Now the rewards are scarce to none

[fringe shadow]

The last time saberlot popped in here, he said it is due for one too and it should be coming back soon. Can u ask him when specifically? It was just last week or something when he said this,

[unkempt sun]

Give me one minute and I can help locate one for you or help you write one. I know this has been a topic of a lot of discussion here

[fringe shadow]

Thank you, appreciate it! 😊

[unkempt sun]

I think this summerizes a lot of the comments you and your fellow players expressed: #📋︱feedback-reporting message Please upvote if you agree! Thanks!

[silk heath]

I've just checked and there's no news posted on our side about when it will come back.
But it's clear from Saberlot's response that they've heard the request and are working on bringing it back soon.

[tidal apex]

Real question should be why it stopped appearing? Why not just schedule it to happen once EVERY month and make it so that it makes sense and is during svs prep or bloodsport...

[steel musk]

It was 20 before

[worn pewter]

[feral sinew]

We are not sure exactly when. The team bear that in mind!

[worn pewter]

Nobody knows anything until it happens

What kind of game does not release what new content will be 😂

Also, why is pluton based off spending

It’s not populating on a random timer

[tame jackal]

the only thing they know the dates are events where they will win millions of dollars

[worn pewter]

It’s populating on either the amount of dollars spent as a whole or the amount of ammo used as a whole

[tidal apex]

This event is purely to help f2p/low spenders so knowing how much they love us it will happen right after some massive event when people are likely to use up all their materials and have nothing left for effortless progress 🤣

[worn pewter]

They only care about big spenders bro, when the bigs have their own personal gm to dm in game 😂 it’s obvious

[tidal apex]

For effortless progress to make impact and truly help it must be known way in advance when exactly it is going to happen. So that we save up materials for it. Saving them forever and waiting for event that may or may not happen is not a solution....

[worn pewter]

If it happens it won’t be known

[digital glacier]

The good Ole days. You young folk don't know anything about.
Not many people will remember this

[tidal apex]

Yup, now it is getting hard to even keep up with normal events not to mention saving... And I am not talking getting some good scores, just bare minimum to grab all rewards for points thresholds :/

Throwdown change is so big... From event where I could just do it by my normal daily troop training that was happening anyway to event where now I need to use up quite a bit to get to 15k points 😒

[fringe shadow]

Really? I never had that version, we went from 30 to 40 from last week to this week.

[fringe shadow]

Thanks, please keep asking them for us! We need them to bring back a effortless progress!! ❤️

[tidal apex]

My theory is that it is based on amount of big whales state group have. More whales means smaller groups in games because they wan to group up one whale and 19 sacrifices together.

If there are not enough whales they would need to do whalefree groups and let middle spenders win and they love that idea so much that they decided to make ot 40 people per group so one whale will have 39 sacrifices :p

[fringe shadow]

You guys were so lucky, it was 30 participants for past few weeks for me! 😔

[uncut knot]

So did they forget about recycling frags? They use to always enable recycling of frags during festival events

[tidal apex]

Recycling of fragments has been off for long time now :/

Have 3k Mike frags :p

[uncut knot]

It’s ridiculous.

[digital glacier]

• resonating heroes do not retain the advertised stat percent at the respective level. fix this issue
• all 3 resident evil heroes announced a specified end date, but further release of Leon and Ada but not Chris. Release Chris also
• players who achieved, above an beyond, certain targets in the lucky gashapoon event prior to January 5 2024 at 0 utc are hindered for their efforts to abide by the game rules. These players should be compensated extra survival coins for more spins in the event.
• price variation between different shops greatly vary fix this
• value of items such as, but not limited, to ascension and syringes do not properly reflect their actual worth in comparison to other items fix this, they are too expensive
• increasing the players in a competition also decreases the chances for rewards. This ultimately brings a negative gaming experience the overly abundant vast majority of players do not wish for. revert the change in survivor royale
• valuable time changing events such as survivor royale are wasteful when much of this valuable time should be used fixing aspects of the game that are truly broken.
• crystal mining research is sketchy. Researching higher level mines require valuable and scarce resources to upgrade and leaves many players unknowing if they will in fact be able to successfully beat the new mining level. crystal mining needs to have a "testable" mine
• dreadbeast (and rarely fiend) rallies at a farther distant are often canceled by the system causing the player to rally another and waste away 5 more minutes of their time. stop allowing npc to disappear when being rallied
• 4 years now, I can recall approximately every 2-3 months there is (claimed by the developers) a bug which incorrectly displayed certain rewards. Players spend money for a specific item and you take it away. stop lieing, we know the habitual scam tactic

• Every task in migo needs 5 extra oil, (still working on the gears cost) The addition of research is 2770 more oil with only a chance to get 640 more oil, leaving it with a debt of 2130 oil. This needs fixing
• the life expectancy of these types of games generally last 3 years. Greed for more profit, lack of gaming quality, lack of care and consideration for the community causes their demise. This game has been out for 4 years. The player base and revenue is fading. stop the greed and selfishness towards players and watch your game be successful

[tidal apex]

Recycling of frags would not be needed if they simply updated intel rewards but they been thinking about it along with bunker rewards for 2 years now

[tidal apex]

Those are all really good points. Thats exactly why they will propably never answer any of those because it would be just straight lies. They will never say
"We increased players number in SR to make them earn less rewards and thus need more packs to work on acquiring good tempest arms"

Any logical company along with increasing number of players in event would also increase number on rewards

Here they instead not only not increase leaderboard rewards but also keep on nerfing what appears in houses 🤣

[worn pewter]

All valid, all falling on deaf, no caring ears with this company

[upbeat dew]

Wow a lot of points! But at here I just want to inform that you can write it down all the feedback at #📋︱feedback-reporting using format at here #📋︱feedback-how-to

And you know what? We have weekly top 10 feedbacks! The top 10 most popular / voted on feedbacks get presented to the Developers directly from the CMs you can check it weekly at here #1185728426770968677

Make sure you get your voice added to what is voted, or you can have your own feedback too at #📋︱feedback-reporting
I wish you a good game!

[stable cosmos]

Aaaaahhhhhhhhhh. My brain. It hurts. Its like you walked into a library and told everyone "hey you can read the books in this building"

[civic star]

[stable cosmos]

Are tanks lying about stuff? Or at least is the bp number tied to literally nothing? I have earned a legendary, its worse across the board than the purple yet it has a higher bp.

Hit the dino intel twice for comparison. Same march. My purple took less damage overall. The bp aspect has no purpose here surely?

At level 2 the purple even has the same skill.

[distant gull]

I got Legendary Tanks but I love that ability

[civic star]

[spice saffron]

I don’t remember this lol 😆

[civic star]

Wow I never noticed this things, let me message and ask my co mods who is better versed in this tank stuff to help

[distant gull]

I dont tolerate that report abuser in other states, my states never do this thing

All pfps are appopriate

[stable cosmos]

Its partly that its apparently weaker, so the bp is wrong. Its also that this also automatically puts it on my lead march which is demonstrably a worse choice

[tidal apex]

Battle power numbers are as random as their discounts. You can compare similiar number stats increasing research from first classic research that just needed time and rss to special plasma research and plasma one will give way more bp even if stats increase is the same 🤣

[stable cosmos]

I figured. That means though that the game is being a pain. I don't want trash on my barricade cos the games gone "this has higher bp" nor do i wish to faff with marches because of a value that means nothing

[upbeat dew]

Hi hiiii! I'm sorry you feel this. From the ss you have sent, I want to confirm that the purple one is on level 56, and the gold level 17?

[stable cosmos]

Yes. But the levels aren't important. Bp is higher for something worse across the board

[upbeat dew]

I'm sure the gold one will have better when you upgrade it ☺️

[stable cosmos]

Thats not the point. Its worse now. It should have a lower bp now

[tidal apex]

Actually tests shown that gold tanks with lvl 1 skill are worse than purple with lvl 2 skill

[stable cosmos]

It should not be the primary infantry vehicle for any reason

[tidal apex]

And getting gold tank to lvl 2 skill is not wasy

[stable cosmos]

In svs or anything I'd be well served to send it to encampment so it doesn't annoy me

[upbeat dew]

upgrading the level is helping! as you can see, the stats grow up when you upgrade it ^^

[stable cosmos]

Oh gods. You think I'm not aware of that? Of course they do. But right now it is BAD and the game gives it a higher bp than something which is BETTER. This means that the BAD thing takes precedence and i have to change stuff so the GOOD thing takes effect

[distant gull]

Already make feedback because ran out of Ideas

[distant gull]

And Report button is easily misclickd by other person because it doesnt have confirmation so, I need it completely removed this easy 2 abuse button

[unkempt sun]

Hi Kita! I just made a feedback report on this issue. Please go upvote to get more attention! #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[distant gull]

👍

[upbeat dew]

Ohh I get it. Would you share it to feedback, because that is a good point, and others might want to vote it on in feedback!

[rocky otter]

I wrongly reported so many times while trying to see player profile 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Before i bother i want to know if there is some weird invisible value like health or whatever that would cause the bp to be higher. If its just a random starting point and it goes up in increments unrelated to stats then yes, I'll report it. But if there is an invisible stat that somehow justifies the higher bp then i will not

[white turret]

Ello mGss

Mates

[white turret]

You need to be a game dev

[old oasis]

I agree Hades he has many ways to fix what has broken

[steel musk]

Devs also but they don't want fix anything

too busy trying find ways to milk players

and working on it only

and now plz don't start protect them

[old oasis]

We do hear you CR.7 there was a huge discussion earlier Mister C has put up an awesome feedback around this

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[stable cosmos]

His post is well thought out and intelligent. I am sure it will make its way to where it needs to go. I am also sure that the management of fup will fail to even slightly understand and will fail to take it on board.

[steel musk]

It's not about bugs only..
they increase gap btw f2p & big spenders every week.. like reduction pearls on this currently event

barely could get 300 from whole event

no point for f2p to keep playing

[old oasis]

Low to mid spenders as well as f2p are definitely not getting as many benefits as years gone by.

Most of us still play due to get awesome friends we have made in the game.

[steel musk]

could make friends in real life also lol

not reason lol

[old oasis]

Yes have many of them two but when you can't get out and about as much it's really nice to have online ones too

I like speaking with my friends all over the world.

[steel musk]

could use discord

as you see me and you here.. and most players

[old oasis]

My daughter is heading to the other side of the world later this year and has some of my alliance showing her around.

Alot of us do spend a heap of time here chatting as well.

[wide wraith]

while I was awake at silly o'clock so that i could be able to pick a team for AD, i was looking through my 3 accounts and a thought came to me, in the interests of fairness and balance, someone who is f2p should be able to complete the exploration project in Migo. those who spend could have the extra crystal mines as their bonus. but if a player chose to ignore the extras they could reach the end. This would be a fair and balanced system. Although most spenders would probably hate the idea, it would encourage more to actually try during the migo season because after a while it becomes worthless

[stable cosmos]

Many migo challenges that earn gas are basically locked off from the player base unless you're spending enough to rank highly in svs and koth. Both these events from a progression standpoint are basically unfair as no matter how much you spend the final prize may not go to you as there are other people in the way.

As with any event the devs think money is to complete things. Not just to do them without effort/time

Its basically. Here is an event, it takes 3 hours to complete. If you do all 3 hours you get all the prizes. If you spend $50 then the event takes 30 minutes.

For this game its, heres a 3 hour event. If you play all 3 hours you get 25% of the prizes. If you pay $200 you get them all, but you still have to play for 3 hours

[spark kindle]

This is so on point and it is the MAIN problem of the game imo

[tardy night]

Pay to play

[glossy stream]

Put it smaller. Its not small enough!

[spark kindle]

There are plenty of p2p games that just allows you to save time which is not the case for sos

[spark kindle]

I've been telling this, they designed the interface for ants. I cannot read anything

[tardy night]

Wait till they bring the mechanics where gameplay itself is locked as well. That's gonna happen too. Folks in their older games literally cannot progress in a 60 day event unless they fork out 5k+

[spark kindle]

Peachy

[tardy night]

They have started doing so with crystal level 9 tiles. Slow intro.

[spark kindle]

Honestly, if it's having whales and krakens fight each other in various events, by all means segregate us

[tardy night]

Nope, it's using kelp to feed the ego of people unskilled enough but willing to pay for the win

And they really do think they're doing anything except paying to win lol

[spark kindle]

I would pay for moving to a pure f2p server where no bundles were released, I would also be willing to pay a subscription and I'm quite sure I'm not the only one. But from what I see, their business model depends on milking out a small group of addicts that would do anything to get that 0.0005 % edge they'll got from an overpriced item

[tardy night]

Oh look..I clicked a button after swiping 20k and stood at a spot to kill 200 players. Such amazing gameplay

[stable cosmos]

I can't understand how even the biggest whales would look at trash like underground treasures and then buy it all thinking "boy this game is fun" the whole need to be on top must be a glitch in their heads

[spark kindle]

I don't blame the players, predatory game designs mess with people's heads. All these new rng based stuff also feed into their addiction. It's sad

[analog nymph]

I have said earlier the same

[mighty gorge]

What you have to remember Chek, is people within the walk of life where they can just blindly click, click, click and not have to worry that they just spent $2000 on a single pointless event or not have to think intelligently, are those same people that don't face adversities in life, or have to count every penny, make sure they don't over-spend, or eat into their mortgage, rent or food for their kids. In the same way some think that $10 isn't much to spend, others don't bat an eye lid at $2000, because to that demographic the principle is the same.

And hey, for some, why do things with effort, strategy and applying yourself when you can buy your way to the top

🤦‍♂️

Never ceases to amaze me

[timid kelp]

Governor needs to get those mines this looks like it could be a visual bug, do you see this all the time there?

[mighty gorge]

Not always, so I think it is just another 'feature', I have a few today to be fair not unsurprisingly.

My Cyber Sirens statue effect disappeared also, and it no longer appears in the table of available decorations, even the button for 'decorations' has disappeared. I can replace it, but from the old decoration menu, and only in the settlement Fun.

Is that one of the crates you get from rallying fiends?

[rocky otter]

Yes

[timid kelp]

Please feel free write a feedback report on this here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606 I do understand your frustrations as they really are not much. Just make sure to follow https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110341802520748132 if you do decide to write feedback 🙂

[mighty gorge]

Can I ask a question.

[timid kelp]

Of course

[mighty gorge]

Do you guys just cut and paste these responses from other parts of the server?

Like a scripted list of things to say?

Its a serious question btw

[timid kelp]

No I actually just typed that myself but it's also true as we are players ourselves so we also suffer the same frustrations as those you share

[strong grove]

©️

[rocky otter]

Okey but they never do a favor for players. Will we have to say everything? They can’t think that it’s a crap for compensation?

[timid kelp]

But the opposite is not submitting feedback in which case some of your opinions will be missed we want everyone to have a say

[stable cosmos]

I'm going to say it again. This specific response, especially in this channel, is extremely counter productive. It does not come off as genuine even if it is true and it feels very belittling

[mighty gorge]

Can I offer you some advice. Its not specific to you so please don't take it personally as its just a general moderator observation. There are several things which grate heavily on the community here, one of which is the 'sheep' like responses that come with every conversation. It generally consists of:

• We are (just) players too, just like you
• We understand and share your frustrations
• Would you like me to write feedback on that for you
• I'm sorry you feel this/that way
• Do you need help submitting a feedback report
• [Insert topic here] is not allowed to be discussed on this server
• We are working hard with the dev team
• That sounds like a great idea (when it really isn't)
• My "Amazing!!" co-mod (and various other derivatives when being challenged)

Sometimes a combination of the above too.

Its like a repeated record of things you have to say taken from some "Big Book of Moderator Terms". I get that the role prescribes you ask, but it always feels so robotic and also comes off at times very patronising.

My personal view, is try to engage with people in the discussion, try to find out what the issue is, if any, if its just a discussion, leave it at that there is no need to intervene.

[strong grove]

Despite the release of so many feedback reports, nothing has changed here

[mighty gorge]

You beat me too it bud, I was just trying to be a little constructive (and wordy) lol

[stable cosmos]

Jinx?

[steel musk]

do you need sumbitting this feedback report which devs will ignore it as all feedbacks ?

[mighty gorge]

Do you know what, while I get the undertone its probably not a bad idea to get visibility (here)

[stable cosmos]

I would certainly like to see the rule of "no discussing, linking to or advertising other games" looked into as currently just speaking the name of another game gets the whole "no, no do that, bad" and occasional post removal

[steel musk]

mods just missing add "devs will ignore your feedback" when they asking here 🤣

[tardy night]

Attend their training. You'll see. They have ppt slides and cheat sheets for scripts

[mighty gorge]

I have. I went through the process

Sadly, even the entry questions can just be googled. Nothing intuitive about it

[stable cosmos]

And i don't think that "game x does it like this, it works better" is discussing or advertising

[tardy night]

Was mod for 5 years with them. They didn't even change much transferring the slides from one game to the next. Lol

[strong grove]

Relativity

[tardy night]

Funny bit. A player as smod designed the training template which enforces this, CMs who were in charge of that training template never offered their view on it. In the original game it was implemented on.

The ones here playing by the book are ...funny.

[stable cosmos]

It just reads as stifling discussion of things that make fup look worse, as if they need help

[strong grove]

Only sos , bug

[mighty gorge]

Again and this is my personal view. When you are comparing approaches, delivery models, how one platform/game or otherwise compares as industry standard to what FP do, and how it may go against the grain, or not be conducive then I don't see the issue. Its when you start to discuss the actual game play facets, features objects or try to push people joining from here then its when it becomes an issue. Some of these gaming practices and approaches and tried and tested, and work.

Sadly, there term 'moderation' is actually lost in translation sometimes and having the ability to be flexible and reasonable

[tardy night]

It's censorship learnt from the CCP. Stifle anything that doesn't follow the party's way.

[grim steppe]

I would like to remind you that this is a state of survival server, please keep the topic related to this game and not compare it to others

[tardy night]

Lmao

[stable cosmos]

This is how i view it too. Simply naming a game and listing something sos could take on board is not advertising or discussion of said game.

[steel musk]

we compare bugs..

[tardy night]

Don't make me pull out the training ppts to show you how there was no game mentioned.

[stable cosmos]

Gods that timing was impeccable

[grim steppe]

I understand but mentioning the other game 😊

[steel musk]

didn't discussion CoD here... just said which one have more bugs

[tardy night]

Oh wait. They mute you if you share mod training templates too. 😂😂

[strong grove]

I play both games

[mighty gorge]

forcible suppression and obedience has a name 😉

[steel musk]

to make devs here wake up if they sleeping on bugs

[tardy night]

No disrespecting the staff and mods 🤣

[stable cosmos]

I swear the mention of the name of something doesnt fit the rules. If i come and say "hey everyone, come play flooglebonkers with me, its a way better game" thats advertising

[steel musk]

instead remember us about rules.. remember devs fix bugs 🤦‍♂️

[mighty gorge]

Flooglebonkers sounds interesting 😂

[stable cosmos]

If that then starts a discussion about flooglebonkers, also against the rules

If a mod warms me about flooglebonkers at this point i may have a laughing fit

[cursive kiln]

[tardy night]

Cyan is the name of some game app. I'm pretty sure.

[strong grove]

😅

[steel musk]

then his name against tos

[mighty gorge]

Bonking the Floogle, sounds like something that we need to get into a new SoS mini game.

[stable cosmos]

I've had my name forcibly changed by over zealous companies sometimes so this is a safe version

[distant gull]

Ally Pack V in Mailbox 😱😱

[tardy night]

Maybe we need to change our names to all those games

And have profile pics and emojis for all of them

[full pivot]

We are allowed to discuss other games, if they're worse than sos. So basically we can't talk about any other games

[steel musk]

they will remove your pic if put another game and say it's +18

[tardy night]

Waiting for DSA to affect Discord

[mighty gorge]

Is Modsplaining a thing?

[distant gull]

This more ridiculous, Report abusing my pfp

[steel musk]

yes no game could sos by how many bugs they make lol

[glossy coral]

40 players in survival mode is too much, makes it impossible to use strategy as everything is immediately taken

What was the best game mode in sos is now garbage

[distant gull]

@steel musk here's my half size avatar I use (its same as my 1001)

[cursive kiln]

There’s been a report about this, you can up-vote it
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[full pivot]

Don't you remember that feedback everyone voted on, you know, the one where we asked for more players in survival royale? No me neither

[near juniper]

We submit all feedback and bugs that are reported from all of you players.
We all understand your frustration in this, but many times there are things that do not depend on us

[distant gull]

If My MIGO is against report abuser state a.k.a haters, I will change name to other names

[full pivot]

Not saying it depends on you. We're saying funplus don't listen anyway, so what's the point?

[magic anchor]

next one will be your ingame name😂

[strong grove]

😬

[steel musk]

good i think i don't use pic lol

[distant gull]

That report abuser affects Galaxy name both set (1000 and 1001) in same MIGO Group

💀

[near juniper]

I know I'll sound like a robot with this sentence (but I can assure you that none of us are)
The more people upvote feedback and bugs that are reported, the more chance there is that the issue will be discussed by the developers and improved.
I understand that in your opinion it may be useless, but I can guarantee you that we all do everything we can to ensure that all of you are heard

[timid kelp]

I just want to apologise for disappearing mid conversation with you all, having work done to my house and they wanted to give me an update. However I care a lot about the players and community as a whole and will always try to help where I can

[full pivot]

Evidence that things are listened to please?

[wide wraith]

over 24 hours is enough time for a CM to find out if they can get an actual Dev here, but we have heard nothing, why no feedback on that?

[deft arch]

Yep and they aren’t gonna ever change it back, if anything they’ll continue to increase the lobby size 😇

Dead event now

[full pivot]

Mods should just be called gaslighters from now on. Whether you're unintentionally misleading us or consciously doing so

[strong grove]

Need votes to report bugs?

🤔

[deft arch]

There are no KG staff/devs in here. It’s by design so they can use volunteers to be the punching bag and achieve nothing

[magic anchor]

goodluck 😂

[steel musk]

here my fav report don't say up vote matter.. still devs don't care

[wide wraith]

the CMs are actual FP staff, it true their are no KG staff here but thats because they no longer exist

[strong grove]

😬

[deft arch]

But dont worry! They’re working on fixing lag in Azurtane (an event everyone hates and only play because migo requires you to), so our “voices are being heard” 😇🤣

Its a joke

[near juniper]

There is a lot of evidence to prove it, many changes have occurred and will continue to occur. These are not things that are normally resolved in 24/48 hours

[mighty gorge]

I didn't know there was any lag. First I heard of it was in the update

[deft arch]

Me either

[full pivot]

Give me a percentage

[steel musk]

no lag with koth also

[distant gull]

How now report name possible

[mighty gorge]

Stop with this please. Repeating this over and over, without actual explanation is just words. Its patronising. Its nothing more than opinion and belief.

[stiff ether]

Font size so spacious after the update, well done

[full pivot]

I really don't want to be unkind to you mods. But you're treading on thin ice right now with your persistence in lying and telling us something different that we witness with our own eyes

[north moss]

Good morning

[distant gull]

I havent update the game

[velvet storm]

Hiiii 🤗

[distant gull]

Hi @velvet storm @north moss

[stable cosmos]

Honestly, there have been things that appear to have come from feedback here. Sometimes its garbled and its not clear if the feedback from here was the reason or if it was from elsewhere

That said we see too much implemented instead of feedback and its junk like tactical emotes that makes us further doubt the system

[steel musk]

we didn't say there is no change.. problem all changes they made, it's bad
like last one.. changed royal to 40

[strong grove]

Behemoth trial

[distant gull]

I still afraid to go MIGO Chat again, too many report abusive in my MIGO Group, Inb4 if my name got reported even though its appopriate at all

[steel musk]

I don't play this event anymore , so don't know

[full pivot]

If you insist on lying to us further I would suggest you all self report yourselves for breaking the server rules by spreading misinformation and being emotionally abusive.

[deft arch]

Change Survivor Royale Back

Change Survivor Royale Back

Change Survivor Royale Back

[mighty gorge]

The problem, is discerning between what is a change from feedback that is as a result of poor product delivery, implementation, bugs, laziness, lack of testing, lack of user engagement etc vs. what is an actual tangible change as a result of feedback that introduces new content and features that the players want.

The former is NOT considered feedback results, the latter is.

[north moss]

Okay so..I know that everyone's upset.
I'd like to remind you though that we are players like you. We are not employees. We are not here to lie to you or make stories up. The ones who know me atleast know that I don't do that My co-mods don't do that either..
If something is not released,or we see that's not released,we ask for it and we keep bringing this up.
It's not in our control though to release it in game. We can keep bringing this up. This doesn't mean that it's not in their plans to do that though

I apologize if I'm slow,I'm getting ready for a job interview

But yes, the things that you want to see and discussed above,are things that we keep forwarding also

[mighty gorge]

Good Luck

[steel musk]

no need apologize, it's not you.. all this from Devs

[north moss]

Thank you 🩷

[wide wraith]

but there are paid employees in this discord channel who could answer these questions

[stable cosmos]

This all just leads back, again, to the devs preferably providing some brand of response to more of the feedback.

[mighty gorge]

Just for the record. I'm not upset. I'm trying to be reasonable, constructive and actually make people think.

Rather than just wading in with terms, and foisted views

[ebon linden]

Hello everyone

[stable cosmos]

We get about 1 a fortnight and its rarely against what was actually said.

[north moss]

I definitely get what you mean and you have valid points here. That's why we are here also trying to push over things that you want (and we all want) to see in game.

[mighty gorge]

Hey 🤗

[stable cosmos]

We've been noisy. More mods needed

[ebon linden]

Heeeey!!!!!!

[steel musk]

Dl mod also

[strong grove]

The reason for the lag is that previously each update was released separately and now everyone has one update, so there are a lot of unnecessary files.

[ebon linden]

You’re pink

[cursive kiln]

Here

[ebon linden]

Hello Cyan

[stable cosmos]

I'm a good boy

[north moss]

[mighty gorge]

I'm pretty. I'm just waiting for my Tutu and high heels lol

[north moss]

You all are good people

[tiny quiver]

And I’m innocent

[timid kelp]

[ebon linden]

Don’t forget the wand

[north moss]

Okay bad timing

[tiny quiver]

🍪☕

[near juniper]

[mighty gorge]

🤐

[north moss]

[wide wraith]

i got several wands lol

[ebon linden]

Can I take this? I’m starving

[tiny quiver]

He said wands not whips

[timid kelp]

Walnut whips?

[tiny quiver]

Please do

[timid kelp]

I need some!

[wide wraith]

got a couple of them too lmao

[full pivot]

Ye, I'm out. You can all keep pretending that out feedback will eventually make a difference. But in 4 years nothing has, and in fact things are going in the opposite direction to our suggestions, and game revenues are suffering because of it.

None of this matters and your opinions will never matter. This is just a place to vent, nothing more. The pretense that your feedback makes a difference is laughable

[mighty gorge]

I love these, but didn't they remove the walnut?

[ebon linden]

Hahaha! I got one from harry potter UN studios lol. The remote one hahaha

[timid kelp]

Not in all of them! Some yes which actually dissapointed me quite a lot

[wide wraith]

maybe between us we could magic up a CM or 2 lmao

[mighty gorge]

Wait, sorry. I missed a trick [tongue in cheek]

Please don't mention other confectionary items in this server. Its against the TOS.

[timid kelp]

But I love confectionery

[cosmic tulip]

Hmm the new update made everything go tiny 😬
My poor eyes.....
Also this new button does nothing.

[mighty gorge]

So. you have a remote wand. 😂

[distant gull]

CM responded me today 🥲

[ebon linden]

Oh shucks… it is tiny

[ebon linden]

The best kind!

[timid kelp]

All of a sudden I don't want to update 👀

[deft arch]

B..bu..but they’re changing excessive icons, so surely they’re hearing our feedback and taking it seriously*/sarcasm*

[tardy night]

The Android game you can play only on your home theatre.

[ebon linden]

My poor eyes 🫣

[timid kelp]

Leave update or my family will think I need an eye test

[cosmic tulip]

All the icons on the main screen also look like they've shrunk in the wash. 🤣
I can see more of the game but I'll be using a lot of muscle memory 🤣🤣🤣

[tardy night]

Intentional sabotage is how this game seems to me lately.

[mighty gorge]

I'm going to not take this conversation further

[steel musk]

It say important reports only but how they know if it's important report 🤔

[deft arch]

Who tf even suggested that change and why is it taking priority over GLARING issues the community has with things like Ray’s Place that negatively affect the entire player base overall

[ebon linden]

Sorry, I haven’t upgrade yet, but what button is that?

[steel musk]

it say important reports

[full pivot]

I'd like to give funplus a sticker, right up their flabby greedy behind

[steel musk]

didn't upgrad also yet

[cosmic tulip]

I thought it be favourites... But it doesn't seem to sort anything.

[cosmic tulip]

Important reports tick box

[timid kelp]

All reports that have the red dot are important! That dot has to go!

[ebon linden]

This!

[cosmic tulip]

Oh

[ebon linden]

Hmm… have to check in game what’s the difference

[cosmic tulip]

I agree all red dots need to be banished

[timid kelp]

I feel my soul destroying if I can't rid the dot

[ebon linden]

Same lol. My ocd gets triggered

[steel musk]

then it's dot reports lol

[timid kelp]

[cosmic tulip]

Can we just rename the tick box to red dot remover 🤣

[deft arch]

How bout instead of cherry picking the bottom of the barrel feedback that only a select few reported/wanted they start prioritizing the issues that affect the entire player base?

I could care less about being able to sort mail

[full pivot]

Our feedback

[ebon linden]

Mind writing a feedback for this, waves? Sorry, I need to pretend to work my colleagues might noticed hahaha

[deft arch]

Change Survivor Royale Back

Change Survivor Royale Back

Change Survivor Royale Back

[ebon linden]

Noted on this ☺️ we’ll inform the team☺️

[deft arch]

Change Ray’s Place Back

Change Rays Place Back

Change Ray’s Place Back

[north moss]

Please remember that we'd follow the server's rules

[ebon linden]

One message is enough

Oh sorry ama

[deft arch]

There I changed it

[strong grove]

Plaster dev

[ebon linden]

Gtg! See ya later guys😘

[timid kelp]

Okay I will start sorting now

[strong grove]

See you later

[cosmic tulip]

There notes of fixes is better than normal. Need to check recon's. Last svs was a disaster.

[ebon linden]

You the best

[stable cosmos]

There are a few more but it remains they need to list all of them. The only stuff that can be shoveled under a single note is "grammar and spelling fixes"

[north moss]

You are all amazing

[distant gull]

Anothet non-sense update

[distant gull]

That button very easy to abuse

[full pivot]

Nah, funplus have a dedicated team of cms to make sure things are checked before the automation kicks in

[strong grove]

😆

[full pivot]

Ye we're screwed

[deft arch]

And you know KG aint gonna do their due diligence, can just report from multiple accounts and boom they punish the reported player 😌

[strong grove]

Block button is better

[cosmic tulip]

Has anyone found the transfer migration score, that they stated would be visible on your profile on this update?

[distant gull]

Yeah than reporting my avatar esp. Haters

[steel musk]

i didn't find it also

they forgot add it maybe.. 👀

[cosmic tulip]

Hmmm I guess that feature is another crowd pleaser....

[deft arch]

But dont worry, you can sort your mail now

[strong grove]

It must have been done by an angry person of yours, the dev ended without looking for anything

[cosmic tulip]

Only war report's so half a job

[stable cosmos]

I can't see my vehicles in reports still. No idea what they're doing

[deft arch]

Buying more yachts and lambos

[cosmic tulip]

There was a * "tested states". We are not the chosen ones

[stable cosmos]

Didn't see that. Ok, all that stuff will show at 0900 tomorrow then. It SHOULD show at reset but 0900 seems to be their time of choice for important things

[strong grove]

Ptr?

[timid kelp]

I have posted a feedback report on behalf of everyone please take time to read it, give me thoughts and upvote please!!!! Thank you

[distant gull]

I tried this on my test alt account, and see no Confirmation and reason except Block button it has confirmation

[stable cosmos]

No, test states are a subset that get new version numbers first

[distant gull]

Can any mods make feedback about it? Report button is easy to abuse without confirmation

[cosmic tulip]

No silly they do all there testing in live.

[strong grove]

@timid kelp

[timid kelp]

Sure give me a few mins and il happily write one for you

[stable cosmos]

As part of a professional business, responses should be collated by the business as to why they are choosing to implement or not implement feedback. We do not expect everything to get implemented and many times it may not be feasible. But please tell us, or create/make use of a channel that keeps us informed

[timid kelp]

Okay I will edit my report and add this!

[stable cosmos]

The developer feedback is not wide ranging enough when it comes to responses and it just reads like chat gpt did it

Or a professional speech writer who has no idea how to connect with a bunch of cynics

[timid kelp]

Okay I have edited my post for you Cyan (481)

[strong grove]

😬

[stable cosmos]

Implemented AND not implemented. If something is being refused, tell us. If something could be done but the feedback doesn't accurately explain the problem, tell us

[vale yoke]

Agreed

[cosmic tulip]

What would be nice if they had this button on everything. In game attached to the feature/event. Allowing people to communicate there feedback efficiently and within contents. (Not that this button took you anywhere useful)

[stable cosmos]

We might not be able to provide the solution but some of the feedback can be a bit... confusing

[distant gull]

Battle Report already in PTR first

[stable cosmos]

There was a mod one earlier where i had literally no idea what was being requested

[opal niche]

The words at the top are small now. Too hard to read. Lol

[cosmic tulip]

It was a dig to there latest Dev feedback... Many things are just thrown in live. 😅

[vale yoke]

While there will sometimes be language barriers or some difficulty in constructing feedbacks which are concise and clear, it should be that context is at least a gasped concept among other players reading.

I can't vote on what I don't understand, you know?

[timid kelp]

Tagging so you see this but have reported for you #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[strong grove]

No compensation? 🙈

[stable cosmos]

I'm good with context but this was just a sequence of words. I can't find it now. It didn't seem to ask for anything

[distant gull]

Yes because in video I show no confirmation for report button, that would be nice if add restriction in Gen 6 or higher must Plasma 3 or higher to prevent report abuse

[timid kelp]

This has now been actioned into the report also 😊

[timid kelp]

Yes I understand, I'm sure they do not want bombarding with all those reports... At some point everyone would more than likely catch the button

[deft arch]

I hate to inform ya but many people have a ton of alt accounts P10+.
Someone in my state has ~10 plasma 13's accs.
Also that wouldnt stop an alliance getting together and bullying people for the giggles

[cosmic tulip]

Perhaps on the flip side, they should focus more of the verification of a violation then the mechanics of how to report someone. I do agree there should be a confirmation but If you put in restrictions as mentioned, this will have effect on smaller younger player's. We have to remember this needs to fit player's of all ages. New states and older ones.

I saw your pfp and in my eyes there was nothing wrong with it. The ai who checks these should also see this... But didn't.

[strong grove]

If you accept the mistake of giving less glory points. dev wants to compensate us, right?

[timid kelp]

I feel to start with action on the accidental/ wondering what happens when I press this button groups is a start to condense down the number of reports. Why there is no confirmation button is baffling to me

[distant gull]

Ah I got it add some restrictions for Various Gens

Gen 8: VIP 8 or Plasma 5 (some of single alts already P5)
Gen 13+: VIP 10 or Plasma 10 (Could be Better)

Or BP limit how much BP for unlock it

Gen 1-6: No restrictions
Gen 7-9: 500m
Gen 10-12: 750m
Gen 13+: 1b

[cosmic tulip]

And if you were a genuine person who fell outside those parameters. For example state transfer or returned player. How can they report messages or something that offends them? How are they protected.

[deft arch]

Any reporting system will surely be abused no matter what restrictions are put into place.

Only way to maintain a fair system is a matching appeal process, but I wouldn’t trust KG to actually do any amount of research to actually make that viable.

It will always be “Well a lot of accounts reported them, so it must be true”

[vale yoke]

Wait, what's happening? Having trouble following along

[timid kelp]

I'm not sure if what the process is CS end but surely a copy of the name/PFP should be sent with the report (I know players can't submit them there) but CS should see what it was like and why it was reported.

[vale yoke]

If I've had to report a player, I've always included a photo of their profile and a SS of their infraction. They only allow like 5 photos to be attached to in-game cs reports, but that's generally enough for that issue.

No videos can be attached, so if someone has a recording, they won't be able to send it via in-game cs.

[timid kelp]

Yeah but I was meaning the report avatar/name buttons.. I know if you report a player through tickets you can attach pics

[vale yoke]

That's weird because you can click their avatar and report them from their profile, but that only reports the avatar. For any chat infractions, a player has to report from the chat box by clicking the problematic person and selecting report from there.

I've never noticed adding photos tbh

Have always preferred navigating the menu over playing musical buttons

[deft arch]

Back when i was in a hostile state, rival alliances would get their players to report other alliances player’s avatar and there are no check-and-balances.

The reported person regardless of their avatar being perfectly fine (like a picture of their dog or something) would get hit with a removed avatar and could not upload a new one.

Talk to CS and they just say “🤷🏻‍♂️ well you were reported, sooooo can’t help ya bye!”

Unless theirs a functional appeal system, it will be abused

[vale yoke]

Someone in our old state was reported by another person who was actually the harasser, and CS was like "well, this person reported first". It was corrected, because it was proven to be a false report, but that was ages ago when I'm convinced real people were cs.

[deft arch]

I will guarantee that you’ll see people doing this with the new “Report name” function, get their name removed, then the abuser will take their name to mock them.

[vale yoke]

Oh absolutely

[cosmic tulip]

Agree not make it harder to report someone but change the mechanics once reported.

[timid kelp]

The only bit when reporting should be the confirmation, but yes how it is handled will need to be different if players innocent names are removed.

[vivid elk]

can some mod post this for me in #📋︱feedback-reporting because I can't: Observation: too many decorations cluttering space everywhere, hard to manage also.

Consequence: it's very complicated, even as free to play to keep track of what decorations we have, which ones needs to be upgraded or built.

Solution: abandon this way of milking high spenders, find some less complicated way of taking their money.

States all

thanks in advance 🙂

[vale yoke]

I'm truly convinced 96% of CS is bots, with the other 4% being live people who handle reports directed to them which have been flagged by keywords. It's the same result, meaning nothing is fixed, but yeah.

[vivid elk]

devs are also some kind of AI, real person wouldn't ignore game falling apart while keeping their agenda going. 😄

[near juniper]

Hello! I'd happy to post this for you

[terse agate]

“If you win a talk with the devs you’ll find an invite in your mail”
However, you won’t be able to set a date tho.
@vale yoke did you have your talk already? The one you won IN THE FIRST CAMP CAFÉ?
🤣😂

[vale yoke]

Also wouldn't be surprised lol

[vale yoke]

The invitation I got the day before my birthday on SEPTEMBER 5 2023?! No, not yet, Groot.

[deft arch]

Positive feedback? About SoS? 🤔 where they seeing that? All ive ever seen is negative feedback cause they never fix what we ask for

[terse agate]

So, win the talk and the devs will have time for you in 2-3 years…..
Awesome price

[vale yoke]

Someone said yesterday I was basically wasting my time thinking they would do this, and frankly, I don't think they will. Camp Cafe was only ever meant to be a dangling carrot, and the only reason I even left a commentary in the first one was because I wanted the free stuff from posting.
The devs are the ones who sent me an invitation, so they can pony up or outright say they don't intend to do chats.
Since they're keeping it going, so am i.

[gritty sluice]

Any info what are the select states?

[vale yoke]

It's not hope that I have. It's insanity, a smidge of stupidity, and sheer spite.

[terse agate]

Therefore I like to keep remembering them and show them how well they keep their promises

[vale yoke]

I bring it up in random places, like their social media posts, because then the wider community who engage in those spaces (and not here on discord) can get involved lol

[terse agate]

I am on no socials, reduced it all to only dc 🤣😂🤣😂

[vale yoke]

I'm not a social person, but I have a lot of social accounts. It's weird.

[torn rain]

to push everyone to update the game, they removed part of the statues again, giving away new ones with a constraint: if you don't have the update they don't work properly and you can't see them. All this animosity about pushing to update, they should put it to fix what's wrong.

[timid wren]

How much Migo Oil thingies we get for Throwdown ? In charts I find all Migo rewards for all events except Throwdown 😅

[glossy coral]

I swear it changes every week

[fossil lark]

Too much Statues. Now we got a few new Statues and I don't know where to build.

[glossy coral]

one week we had to get 15k points, the next it was 7.5k

[timid wren]

That would be unfortunate

Noo, nooo... That's REQUIREMENTS

I know requirements for World event is 7.5k if you're top tier alliance in Throwdown (that is lower if your alliance rank in Throwdown is lower btw) Throwdown internal requirement is still 15k for highest rewards in highest tier
Question is concerning Migo rewards 👀

[unreal lichen]

Hi Queenie !
Let me quickly get an answer to this 🏃‍♂️

[cosmic tulip]

More decoration turned into statues😭

[unreal lichen]

You can get an estimate here: #📖︱official_en_content message

I will still update you on the newer MIGO once I get some info 😇

[unreal lichen]

Here's some reference snaps shared by my awesome co-moddie Crystal Tears.
It is for Champion tier

[timid wren]

Aaaawwee and I went and made a collage with doodles comparing events. But yes, result was same 🤭 mine just looked like a 4 year olds art

[mighty gorge]

I think its 300-399 and 900-990. I'm sure I read that somewhere, I just cant' find the post now

[charred swift]

Can I feedback that the use of the word awesome when describing fellow co-mods is overused and irritating.

[timid wren]

You can feedback that you feel it's overused and irritating 😂 or think

[gritty sluice]

Thank you sir

[mighty gorge]

Dont' quote me on the exact states, I just recall them being somewhere in those ranges

[mighty gorge]

I may have given you a bum steer, sorry. It was related to KoTH. The icon optimisations may well be the same or different. Sorry again.

[paper pilot]

I just updated to the newest version.
Can anyone please tell me if there is a separate section for vehicle stats or are the vehicle stats just merged with the total report ?

[deft arch]

Unless youre in one of the unknown “selected states” it’s still no where

Only very few have the new reports

[paper pilot]

Oopsie, okay.

Digi

[mighty gorge]

Can someone tell me what an 'Important Report' is, or did I miss something, because checking the box seems to change diddly squat

[deft arch]

Red dot = important

[mighty gorge]

Umm, dont' all war reports give a red dot now

[tame lintel]

I'm still waiting for answer on this too😅🤣

[mighty gorge]

Its great, I feel like I can take on the world. I now have a box, that I can check, that serves even less purpose than the brain cell the Fun Plus team use to share around at power meetings

Just another one of the many things no-one asked for

[vale yoke]

What a thing to waste payroll on.

"Hey, I know there are about a million other things we could focus on, but could you guys please work on this confusing and seemingly unnecessary obscure toggle option instead?"

[mighty gorge]

You know, that conversation happened. Sure maybe not as succinct as you put it, but it happened nonetheless

[vale yoke]

And like, don't get me wrong, I don't blame the programmers. They were given a job and (I hope) paid decently for the silly thing, but good lord.

Devs just be lighting money on fire with dumb stuff like that. Smells like our money, too.

[mighty gorge]

But hey, things like this charade that could be fixed in 10 minutes are not even on the radar

[vale yoke]

My eyes sting now. Thanks

[mighty gorge]

I think i need a whistling keyring to find my decorations

[tame lintel]

They changed that

Open build

Tap on building in inventory

Goes straight to building now

[vale yoke]

Doesn't it have a little thing now? To say it can be upgraded?

Or yeah, what Moose said.

Don't mind me.

[mighty gorge]

I know moose, I was just being obtuse lol

[tame lintel]

We never do

😘

[vale yoke]

😘

[tame lintel]

Take big words to bugs channel please🤪

[vale yoke]

You staying warm up there, Moose?

[cosmic tulip]

What I’m not a fan of is they messed with the statues bases and removed the grid lines when a statue overlaps. It looks nice.. but when space is tight.😬

[tame lintel]

Oh ya. Only -26 today. But heat in my truck works like a charm. I'm in my shorts

[mighty gorge]

We had snow yesterday Moose, it was an entire 1.37cm, it stayed for a few hours, then became mush. The entire NW of the UK ground to a halt.

[tame lintel]

I dont leave the house for that

Need atleast 4cm...haha

36 hours worked in past 48

Money is falling from the sky

[mighty gorge]

I was probably even being generous with the .37 😂

[tame lintel]

❤️❤️❤️

[mighty gorge]

I'm working right now.

[vale yoke]

Today and tomorrow are my days off

[tame lintel]

Nice. I take today off. Need some sleep. Haha

Yet I'm up....and here

🙄

[vale yoke]

Lol

[tame lintel]

Damn kids

[vale yoke]

I had to get my kids to school, what's your excuse?

Lmao

[tame lintel]

Same. And wifey

[vale yoke]

Husband, but yeah.

[tame lintel]

She doesn't drive and hates the cold

So no bus

So I drive her

[vale yoke]

He works overnights but the shop is in the basement. So we have a "work meeting" when I'm having my coffee and he's getting ready to sleep, so I know what I'm walking into logging into the company page.

[tame lintel]

Got home at 2am. She has no problem waking me at 5. To drive her🤬

[vale yoke]

We don't have snow here, but it's pretty friggin cold for this area. Not too bad personally, but I know a lot of these folks can't handle 13°.

Oof.

[mighty gorge]

You should get a check box moose, one that doesn't do anything. Ask her to check it when she wants to be taken

[vale yoke]

[mighty gorge]

I think I'm going to ask to use the same code when I sign for anything financial.

Now, if only I had this when I sold my soul

[distant gull]

Yay 🥰

[hollow pebble]

Are devs blind people or something? Why small letters in mail?

[vale yoke]

I'm near sighted and those things are small. Omg it's terrible

[mighty gorge]

Maybe they are trying to make up for something.

[vale yoke]

chokes

[mighty gorge]

Wait, no, thats the other way around

😂

[digital glacier]

Yith Decorations broke too 😂
I used glory to buy them and others get then for free. This is unfair. It's thievery

[hollow pebble]

😂😂😂😂, that had me laughing, becuase I probably know what you aiming at😂😂

[mighty gorge]

Smaller letters cost less to make I think, that must be it.

[hollow pebble]

Oh 100%

[mighty gorge]

If you think about it, we now have smaller letters, a checkbox that doesn't work and a switch that turns off notific....oh wait

[hollow pebble]

😂😂, gotta love P2W tempest arms

[mighty gorge]

We now have WMD's?

Sorry bud, my sarcasm today lol

[tame lintel]

The check box is dumb. No matter how you put it.
As your "important" is very different than mine....

[mighty gorge]

I'm kinda disappointed that I don't have sticky notes in game, so that If I'm playing I can write down my shopping list

[tame lintel]

Great

Then I get people crying about being sent home because they can't see where their troops died🤣🤣

Every report is important

[mighty gorge]

Seriously if this is the case, its the dumbest idea ever, even more that f* tactical emotes

[tame lintel]

That's a tall statement.
Tactical emotions are a big laughing point🤣🤣

[mighty gorge]

Its like buying one of those LED panels for your rear car window so you can show your displeasure to other drivers through the medium of 'visual aid'

[tame lintel]

Atleast those usually have some style added to them though.. lol. Actual humor.

[mighty gorge]

Somehow, me driving down the interstate/freeway/motorway and displaying the nanami sticker in my back window I think might confuse people lol

But its OK, I have a checkbox on my dash

[tame lintel]

Or cause rage from sight becaus ethey played this game..and run you off the road.

[digital glacier]

Since they made the text 2000% smaller, except WAR
They clearly have room to make a more organized mailbox.
State ## (In state battles) / CC / SVS / RR / DUEL / ALLIANCE / SYSTEM / NPC / FAVORITES

[tame lintel]

Personally....if I saw Nanami on someone's back window...I would automatically assume they love the game and are whales.
Then proced to end them...in hopes to remove 1 kraken. For better odds for myself🤣🤣

[tame lintel]

I'd rather good gameplay

Simple

1 task

Rest can follow later

[hollow pebble]

With the amount of BS, Wouldnt surprise me

[tame lintel]

Not necessarily 😅
But I get yur point

Basic "investing"

[digital glacier]

They understand, make something, sell it once, change it to a different purpose, resell it for more $.... Example: Decorations that converted to statues.
That requires paying someone $10 to change a few lines of code and make a 20000% discount bundle for the item. 😂 3 people buy it, they profit money even with paying taxes and surcharges to app store 🤣

[sleek moth]

And now bugs are getting more frequent. Didn't use to have bugs on simple things or most things new. Now everything new get bugs and seems the bugs spread so existing items also gets bugged.

[tame lintel]

I dont even think its like that anymore.

I honestly believe it's "lets see how muxh these idiots pay us" now...

Profits down by half from 2022 to 2023

[sleek moth]

Yea $200k and above, you get a personal line, discord and email, $100k and above, personal discord and email, $50k, personal discord, $20k, VIP discord group.

[tame lintel]

They even got away from app stores somehow?? Maybe back room deal?? How is sos topup page running

But no Google or Apple payment

[tardy night]

See epic vs Google.

For how their payment store is running

[sleek moth]

You can actually pay with apple pay i think, so must have linked to them too.

[tame lintel]

Wow. That's is a loss in court for them🤣

[tame lintel]

Very wierd

[vale yoke]

They all are, tbh. Some have a more drawn out process before it gets obvious, but others don't even bother trying to pretend they aren't.

[mighty gorge]

waits patiently

[analog nymph]

What are you waiting🤔

Game to close down

Or devs fix it😂

[tame lintel]

Devs won't fix. Ever.
Cheaper to start anew

Or add to cover up

[mighty gorge]

Its been an entire 11 minutes. I was waiting for the obligatory friendly warning.

[tame lintel]

Noone fixes issues anymore. Lol. Even doctors push meds to cover the symptoms..instead of fixing the issue

[mighty gorge]

True that. I've tried many times to get them to fix the voices in my head.

[tardy night]

Century games was the distributor of funplus games. Just so you know

Where you guys had the kg logo, older f+ games used to have century

And Dian Dian interactive

[vale yoke]

Oh you mean the one about the- hang on. Clears throat
Please refrain from mentioning any other games or titles in this server per the #📖︱server_rules

Or whatever mods say. Turning on my Xbox now to definitely not play something other than State of Survival.

[cloud ridge]

I still find it annoying that when they first started to do this they said in the messages you'd keep the original one if you had it already unlocked and get an extra which as far as I recall never happened...

It is also a joke yes that things that many have fought for with glory rankings KG are now giving out for free.

If they made new decos then it's whatever but recycling previous limited ones is unfair on those who got and earned them

[woven spire]

Some issues cannot be fixed thats the thing

But in sos clearly can😂

For example chronic diseases. They try to fix the symptons cause simply no medication/fix to fix it and if you dont even fix the symptons you cant live on daily basis

[tame lintel]

Lol... thanks for the education....
I would never have known😅

And 👎 aswell.
Yes on a personal level.
No, on a societal level..

Take depression as an example.
It's a rising societal issue.. yet being addressed individually..

(in most places)

[woven spire]

I dont know where you live. But depends on that also. Yes on america they probally will rip you off and whatever but here in europe they actually trying. Although they have protocole. (Insurance etc)

But mostly they try to fix the issue without sugerys

If they can

[tame lintel]

Nah.. doubt it.. what doctor has ever prescribed less social media....imo. the main factor for rising depression???

[woven spire]

Sadly they need to use "weaker" medication to "test" and because its simply cheaper

[tame lintel]

They never attack the real issues

[woven spire]

Depression. Not much into it tbh. But i believe society is more a issue of depression. The way all works. Not sure how they fix that

But i know out of experience they will try to attack the real issue but its not so easy. At least in my country

[silk heath]

I would very much appreciate it if you could vote this up #📋︱feedback-reporting message
I cannot read a thing at the moment

[woven spire]

Doctors here dont get payed for patience whatever or what people get. Just a salary and most of them are really people that want to help. So they do all in their power even sometimes they need to work out of the books

Insurance is the issue. Since they want money simple

So they push not to

[woven spire]

I did but doubt if anything works😂

[silk heath]

If you're talking about yourself, I wish you a full recovery. It's very hard to cope with. Make sure you speak to your friends and family. Reach out if you need help.

[tame lintel]

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying all doctors. And I'm not ignoring that they are doing their best with what they have.

[woven spire]

No i am not depressed haha. I never really though of it. Just have chronic disease but thats cool. We live with what we have and learn

[tame lintel]

And some countries...that actually care. Are alot better. I hear some have screen time guidelines. They still teach morals in school and at home.

It's all societal issues where we are in the boat we are in now

[woven spire]

Iknow but i really think it depends how it works. America is trash. They make money of people and guess what. They dont care about you more about your money

Here they get salarys. So no reason to play with people and do the "cheaper" options for themself

[silk heath]

I was considering posting the feedback like this

Just kidding

[woven spire]

Its very very sad that health care is not free everywhere imo

Every human being should have the right for health care

[mighty gorge]

Is this not a bug? I mean I get the feedback and intent, but surely this can't be "by design"

[woven spire]

Should never been a money maker

[silk heath]

Guys, this channel is for Feedback discussion. For general conversation, please can you move to #🧟︱general

[woven spire]

True but sos dont fix bugs is the feedback😂

[tame lintel]

And thats why I say. Ya. Addressing some things on personal level is fine.
But when everyone is "getting effected" it need wider thinking

[woven spire]

We still have bugs of 3 years ago😂

We consider it normal at this point

[silk heath]

If I had to guess, they were trying to get the words to fit properly in all languages and accidentally made it too small. You're probably right that it's a bug. I'll submit a ticket on my account when I get in game. If you can also, that would be great.

[normal peak]

Does anyone know if Migo coins transfer to next Migo or do they get recycled?

[woven spire]

Did previous time

[cosmic tulip]

I got told no the other day

Only Astro stars

[normal peak]

Astro stars useless anyway

[fiery basin]

The astro coins should get transferred as per the information i have

[woven spire]

Its no reading rules

But previous migo they didnt recycle

And said no in rules

[normal peak]

Not astro coins…the coins to bypass events

[mighty gorge]

I guess Astro have to given you can only get a maximum of 2 from each Migo and some of the items in the store cost 4

[normal peak]

Yeah if you spend a boat load you get 2

[cosmic tulip]

Oh the skip coins. Yes. Well I hope I have 26..

[normal peak]

26? You don’t skip anything

Be like me and skip everything

[cosmic tulip]

Lazy lazy. 😂

[normal peak]

Yeah I get yelled at because of it

@mild marsh

[mild marsh]

Yes?

[cosmic tulip]

Ouch poor Erin

[normal peak]

I do it to annoy her

[cosmic tulip]

He wants to build up his skip coins. Please feel free to nag him @mild marsh

[mild marsh]

Bahaha he can do what he pleases. Just makes my job easier 😇

[normal peak]

😂😂

[cosmic tulip]

😂😂

[viscid ore]

Is the new update designed to make players lose their sight sooner?

[fiery basin]

Sorry for the late responds, i did found info that they carried over from the last migo to the current one so i assume it will be the same for the next migo

[fiery basin]

Hi tetaBW, my co-mod already sent feedback regarding this matter. If you want you can upvote it so it gets higher (i also needed my glasses after the update) lol

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[viscid ore]

I imagined that it serves to hide the excellent new features that the dev has in mind to create!! (I'm being ironic)😬😬😬

[fiery basin]

Most definitely must be it😂

[vagrant parrot]

What did change in battle reports? I took update but I dont see anything different

[tepid rivet]

Can this get any smaller please? After 4 years everyone should know the tabs' name anyway? 🙄

[vernal moss]

Hi chief, this is a known issue and there has been a lot of players upset with the changes, even though we know what they are the font size is ridiculous and can still cause strain to our eyes.

If you have any suggestions on what we should have there please let us know in #📋︱feedback-reporting don't forget to upvote any you see should have support too!

[woven spire]

Just getting old

[tepid rivet]

Buy me granny phone

[unreal lichen]

You're not a granny

[tidal apex]

Logged in and saw mail with decorations in it... Did they once again remade stuff into statues that give stats?

[dense lance]

even if she's not a granny, which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans, we can support her right to be a granny

[molten comet]

Kind reminder that channel is for feedback. Please navigate to #🆘︱sos_discussion or #🧟︱general

[woven spire]

Older then that😏

[dense lance]

I have a really hard time reading this now. Granted I mostly know which tab goes to what, but the icons that don't tell me much feel like they're huge and the words that tell me what matter are hidden

[dense lance]

It says it's only in certain states, not sure which states though.

[molten comet]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message You can upvote here

[full pivot]

Where tf do the developers live? Is it some alternate universe?

[tidal apex]

I like how they are so "happy" they received quality feedback and yet they never act on it and address issues feedbacks were about in any way

[pallid willow]

Of course they did, they will with everything i bet, thats why they removed decorations from the skins tickets store😒

[tidal apex]

Now everything is statue, no more decorations 🤣I stopped buying this stuff completely in migo store, no point when they will remade it into statue with stats few months later 😒

And along with statue fhange they often like to make it bigger than it was so it no longer fits where it was placed in settlement...

[pulsar pine]

How do you define quality feedback?

[tidal apex]

Island when started they advertised it as a place where we could well decirate it to look nice. Then they started statueyfing everything and it became just a trash bin for it....

[full pivot]

Well funminus defines it as anything that could make them more money. Us players just want the lag, bugs, excessively expensive new features, cheating, lying, rigged games of chance to be fixed

[tidal apex]

Actually no which makes it really strange... I once won prize for quality feedback in camp cafe and what I wrote was essentially that tempest arms is trash system and should not be so heavily reliant on rng. Of course used nicer words and expanded more on it

[full pivot]

I can hear Alanis Morisette's Ironic playing on this meme

[tidal apex]

So they are completely aware what problems their game have, they just dont care to repair or change any of it

[pulsar pine]

Is it a game problem though or a company problem. Its probably more to do with how they manage their teams and how they assess and review and implement. Plus also i guess, how they quality control their content before putting it into game

[full pivot]

Well, get ready to have bundles soon for targeted ascension rolls. Priced accordingly, like the behemoth additional talents. 84.99 per roll

They take your feedback and twist it

I should apply for a job at the marketing dept at funplus. Would fit right in

[pulsar pine]

FunPlus Marketing or Lawyer...I guess both are leeches lol

[full pivot]

The company is one giant leech headed by the king leech

[silk heath]

Ahhhhhhh Light Mode!!! I'm blind!!

[worldly sable]

The graphics are pretty bad, I'm always surprised that light mode is a thing

[mighty gorge]

Discord or game?

[silk heath]

discord

[full pivot]

Game is not much better

[mighty gorge]

Oh, yeah. The last update to discord royally trashed it

It went down like a lead ballon

[worldly sable]

They hired SOS devs for ideas

[silk heath]

my search is still broken

[modest moss]

it’s a Chinese company running this game only focused on their own wallet, after more than 3 year playing sos I’m close to having banned all possible made or produced in China products, not easy and sos will sure be banned as well as soon as it’s dying 😂

[silk heath]

I saw FP posted for developers to work in their Barcelona office. Maybe that will inject some talent.

[full pivot]

Nah, not all Chinese companies are greedy, incompetent, immoral snake oil salesmen who don't care about their players

[mighty gorge]

Temu thanks you for your business.

[terse agate]

Just FP🤣😂🤣

[modest moss]

for Temu you are the product 😂

[full pivot]

Hahahahaha. Sorry but no. Spain isn't exactly known for their programming talent. You want to know why they chose Spain? The unemployment rate is one of the highest in Europe, and hence wages are low. Funplus not thinking about talent, they're thinking about being cheap

[modest moss]

therefore it’s banned by me too😂

[mighty gorge]

So, thats why there is so much bull 😂

drum roll

[modest moss]

guess what living without ticktock is possible as well 🤣

[terse agate]

Soooo, @merry scroll ?
How many of the grand prizes are handed out?
I know the FIRST one winning the “talk with the devs” can’t seem to be able to get her price.
Although she tried multiple times, she hasn’t had the talk with the devs that was promised 5 months ago…..
IF FP promises a reward, make sure the winner actually GETS the reward…..

[mighty gorge]

Tagging Saber lol. You may as well tag the janitor in the FP office, probably get more sense.

[full pivot]

They need to put the management team at funplus in those bull runs. With heavy weights attached to their feet. If they make it out without getting hit they can introduce a new feature

[tidal apex]

I know where the problem lies! Reward was a talk with the DEVS but there are no devs left there... Only few unpaid interns so who is the talk supposed to be with?

[full pivot]

The janitor has better interpersonal skills too

[full pivot]

The reward will come after the "slowing down" update, i.e. never

[tidal apex]

My suspicion is that CMs are nearly never here because company listens to them as much as they listen to feedback mods send over. So they feel bad seeing how many problems there are but not having ability to resolve any so they just ignore discord

[terse agate]

But but but……..
They claim we can win it!!🥺

[mighty gorge]

I want to have the same opportunity as @vale yoke and then have all my hopes and dreams dashed

[full pivot]

They'll find some intern at their new Barcelona office called Juan Sucher to do it if it ever happens. He won't have a clue

[terse agate]

Oooooh!!!! Is that the price?
Crushed hopes and dreams

[vale yoke]

Wait. No one told me to bring hopes and dreams.

[tepid rivet]

👵

[mighty gorge]

I mean, its kind of laughable really. "Winning" the opportunity to talk to the development team.

[terse agate]

That’s your price, they will be crushed

[unreal lichen]

Wish I'm that hot when I'm a granny

[vale yoke]

I'm 40, I haven't had those in at least 15 years, Groot

[terse agate]

Bahahahaha! I am 48……
Imagine me

Deng! Now I am sad

[vale yoke]

We could line margarita glasses with our salt 🤣

[pulsar pine]

I want to win a talk with Liannin about the developers. Now, that would be a reward lol

[vale yoke]

You can talk to me anytime you would like

[terse agate]

😘😘🤗🤗

[vale yoke]

If I don't answer, im either sleeping, working, or deceased.

[pulsar pine]

I heard you are the Oracle?

[vale yoke]

I am?

Neat

[full pivot]

Or ignoring us and thinking of what new features you can release to leech more money from your followers. Oh wait

[vale yoke]

Wrong person lol

[mighty gorge]

Liannin is a secret developer!

[unreal lichen]

Was that cabbage juice?

[vale yoke]

Omfg that was apparently a rumor

[mighty gorge]

Its all a ruse, to set us off on a wild goat chase

[full pivot]

I'm glad we gave the goose the night off

[vale yoke]

There was one where my entire alliance were secret devs or something stupid, and we were sowing chaos to plan development

[unreal lichen]

Truth can't be rumours..... they're facts

[vale yoke]

Baaaahahaha I haven't even developed a clue

[full pivot]

They're so ageist, omg

[vale yoke]

I'm old, it's legit

I can still pop and lock, but instead of dancing, it's my bones and joints popping then locking up

[terse agate]

Nah! You’re 8 years younger than me.
And I am still young 😏

[vale yoke]

You are, yes, because time works differently for Groot.

[tepid rivet]

Plastic surgery can help you

[terse agate]

Probably a female developer 😬😉🤣😂

[mighty gorge]

Groot lives in the multiverse, thats why.

[mighty gorge]

You can't say that now Groot. Developers are people too, with feelings.

We think.

[terse agate]

I can!!!!
Since I am female too

[terse agate]

Nah, I don’t think so

[mighty gorge]

I'm not sure what I am. I'm still deciding.

[tepid rivet]

If there would be female developers at FP, we wouldn't have solely half naked female and sugar daddy heroes

[terse agate]

🤔 you wear make up?
High heels?

[mighty gorge]

How did you know, you've been stalking me 🤔

[terse agate]

Yup😏

[cloud ridge]

@merry scroll / @feral sinew / @gray dragon | I can see in SOTF cross state rankings there's rewards for up to 8 states yet 5 are only shown.

This better not be another BS thing like first SOTF of this migo where there's hidden states / players you make up

[tepid rivet]

Why can't we have half naked, oily male heroes. Only female one's, it gets old

[terse agate]

Oooooh!!!!
I want those 😍😏

[vale yoke]

I'm good, but you deserve nice things

[terse agate]

Ok, want the honest answer or the none honest answer?🤣😂🤣

[cloud ridge]

Both 😅

[mighty gorge]

Is it safe to come out yet

⬅️

[terse agate]

Sure?
In both answers you are screwed🤣😂

[cloud ridge]

I'm writing to CS anyways for a non helpful response

[cloud ridge]

I'd expect nothing less from KG

[marble grove]

Well... shame I just reuploaded it and it was fine again 🤣

[terse agate]

What avatar you used????😂🤣😂

[steel musk]

node 🤔

[marble grove]

My pfp

Maybe it's the ghost balls

Mine was instant approved again

[terse agate]

Yup, that must be it🤣😂🤣

[cloud ridge]

Maybe some at KG have a tree fetish?

[terse agate]

I think so🤣😂🤣

[marble grove]

My half length one only been added once, and never changed

[steel musk]

join rally

[cloud ridge]

Is it a rallie to the devs?

[steel musk]

yes 😌

[candid raptor]

Can I ask why some states got mission task and some didn't?

For the new year event

Seems unfair 👌🏻

[rain swallow]

my half length has been bugged since it was released, and I can't upload any photos😌

[rain swallow]

SOS? unfair? you must be mistaken👀 😂

my state did'nt have it, and i just wanted the stam

[unreal lichen]

It is from the PTR server.

[candid raptor]

It's not 😂

It's from my other state

😂

Cut of the bs

[rain swallow]

which state?

[woven spire]

New states also have 20 people survival royal😂

They love new states

[thorny plume]

Unfairness is what funplus does

It litterary runs through their veins

[nova jetty]

I was not aware some states did not get it. What state are you in ?

[strong seal]

The bounty bullet game is rigged since 2 days, not a single statue token since 2 days, 10k bullets used......devs lie about the 1% drop chance of statue tokens......

[nova jetty]

I had a similar problem with mine a while back but customer service fixed it . Have you tried submitting a ticket to get it fixed ? Here is the secret menu to get to customer service if you want to try .
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/626731309120618506/1143138211695186031/TT_How_to_Access_C.png

[rain swallow]

I opened 3 tickets but they were all AI responses, I'll try this way

[nova jetty]

Yes try this way and include a screenshot of the picture you would like them to add. Good luck! Let me know if you need further assistance

[thorny plume]

Its a waste of thumb even bothering to hope for anything but ai answers or something someone copies from a file and no redemption. Better not having any hopes when it comes to customer service, just saying.

[nova jetty]

The percentage is very small . With each bullet you get a one out of one hundred chance so more tries does not increase the odds . It's a matter of getting lucky with that one bullet. All I can do is offer you good luck as you try again.

[strong seal]

nice try, then pleas explain me why i got in the first 2 days both to level 7 and after that not a single token dropped anymore....

[nova jetty]

It's random so I would guess your luck was better in the beginning ? If you think it is bugged though you can put a ticket into customer service using the chart above.

[nova jetty]

It does seem like we get alot of auto answers from ai . You can add any inappropriate ones here #cs-response-screenshots so they can be investigated

[strong seal]

seriously, dont play stupid and no offence, but if you get in 2 days from 20k bullets, both statues to 7 and the next 2 days not a single token, then dont say this is from "your luck ran out after 2 days...." thats even from mathematic point of view bs.....

[nova jetty]

If you have a 100 sided dice how many rolls will fall on one in a thousand rolls ?,since each roll is separate it can be anywhere from all to none . That is probability. But like I said if you feel it is bugged you should definitely put a ticket in. I am horrible at math but I think that is the way it works . I am actually surprised you got it so far I personally have only got the one to lvl 2 after around 9000 tries.

[strong seal]

as they would really admit that the screwed down the drop rate for it.....sure.....

[stable cosmos]

Their drop rates are always a lie. Look at ada and leon. We got them to change Chris via a lucky saberlot encounter. But their response with ada and leon has been to revert it as close as possible. A frag should be 37%, i think its more like 5% at the moment

[nova jetty]

I have no way of knowing if they changed the drop rate. I suppose thst it is also a possibility.

[stable cosmos]

We've been over their "probabilities" the listed ones are almost always a lie. Please don't defend this

[nova jetty]

I can't get Leon frags to save my life... I always get gold frags or speed ups no matter how many I buy I get like 2 frags.

[stable cosmos]

Doesn't fit with 37% right? They lie about this stuff frequently

[nova jetty]

I do wonder if this is the "new" math my dad always complains about ...he'd look at my homework and say I can't do that new nath...

[strong seal]

Its so strange i used now 8k bullets......got 2 times 800 gold, 1 time 300, 0 statue tokens....

but no skin so far, and no statue tokens.....very very strange.....

[stable cosmos]

No. Its just lies. Just enough frags to think "oh probability got me I'll buy some more" rather than the clear fact that probability evens out the more you do something and it doesn't match up.

Please don't give them benefit of the doubt here. The chances listed vs what happens are not at all connected. It says one thing and does another. Not the first time

[strong seal]

so i got 2 times 0,03% lucky but never on the 1% chance statue tokens, yeah sure......comon, they rigged it after 2 days

[nova jetty]

The odds do not improve the more you do it . You get a 1 in 100 chance each time no matter how many times you try. If you do it 99 times you are no closer to getting it on the 100 time than you were on the first try. So they may have tweaked the drop rate, but it would be impossible to tell because it's random. You would need access to the algorithm to know for sure.

[faint flint]

Reading through logically, I can not see this game seeing another Christmas. It’s likely they will milk for all it’s worth in the next few months then all of a sudden, shut it down.

Then they release a new game to take over. There are now many on a similar format to sos.

They don’t screw all the money they can out of players like this one

I see many more statues released today. Statues are worthless these days.

I see a mark3 behemoth coming

3rd aircraft

[strong seal]

That bullet blast event is as it is totally strange, the daily tasks rewards (receive 5 bullets each) and you need 10 to fire once, is just ridiculous...
and you need to get at least to 12500 points to get something good....how many shots gonna needed for that? 12500*9 = 110k bullets = >2k....

[stable cosmos]

They don't improve but the even out. If you have a 50% chance of something over 100 tries you would expect to get it 50 times. If you got it 0 times the likelihood of that is WAY lower and it means something else is affecting the variance. Yeah its possible. But in an electronic medium with less than moral management and developers as proven previously, I'd lean on them lying about the probability.

Once more, please don't defend or shrug off this behaviour as "oh its just probability it can go like that" its disingenuous.

[faint flint]

It’s the one thing that the devs show how they will progress the game. When at least 99% of feedback reports say slow down on events and they do the opposite. Shows us devs only want to milk us to we are dry

[thorny plume]

Almost like they lie about the odds. Almost......

And people that discredits odds, doesnt understand natural distribution or binomial probability mass function

If you flip a coin 8000 times, you should be pretty close to 50/50

Give it a try if you wanna

Those percentages that is like 0.05 etc, they you will need way more then 8000 to see a proper result on. But the rest, should be in the area of advertised odds, and it never is

So it short they are scamming us

[stable cosmos]

Yep. And when, in the case of chris, hundreds of people were reporting that they hadn't received a single frag in 10 days off the free spins which advertised 37% we knew something was up. Devs lie, we know they lie.

do not defend this as a mod i doubt you have to actually protect the company so don't try and gaslight us about this dtuff

[gusty dove]

fair 6-sided FP dice throws a 7 99% of all throws

[thorny plume]

I did 1800 spins on those new resonated ones. Then i did the math , i got 63 percent of expected result

And then I excluded the 50s and the 20s

No wait, 67 percent

No, it was 63

[faint flint]

Maths on percentages are easy to understand. 1% chance means at the end of event. Every 100 people that succeed. Only 1 gets that prize. But as you have 2 statues at 1%. Means on average you get a statue 1 in every 50 chances.

[thorny plume]

Let me know when you understand binomial probability mass function

[gusty dove]

Fp assume all their players dont understand it, like them

[thorny plume]

Read up on it, they are 100 percent scamming us

My best guess is they flag spenders in a way and give us worse odds

[gusty dove]

yep, very likely

[thorny plume]

Decided yesterday im going f2p and i havent spendt fortunes like some, but quite a bit. More then quite a bit

Fed up with the everlasting scam

[strong seal]

i raised it, as in the first 2 days, you had a acceptable drop rate on the statue tokens, then day 3....0.....day 4....0.....with similar number of bullets used....so no way that this is suddently out of nowhere, they rigged it....simple as that.

[gusty dove]

lets give it a try, buy bundles for 10k $ and try again 😅

[faint flint]

Bu it’s like lucky cards. When the top prize and a 3x reward are the last 2 cards left. Happens so many times to me

[thorny plume]

It is, just like the lucky lotto thing is rigged.. even the dog sniffing hero shards is rigged. Had a f2p account. Got 2-3 every day. Atleast 15 a week, and thats a bad week.

Main account Im lucky if I see 1 or 2 in a week and thats probably because they know Ill buy the hero shards anyways

Not shards but the potions

[strong seal]

no thanks....but could use a second opinion, so maybe you try it? 😄

[gusty dove]

lets lookfor someone else 😝

[thorny plume]

So yea, my advice stop spending and avoid everything they offer that is lootbox or gambling. Its always rigged. Offcourse its rigged, they want us to spend

[strong seal]

thats nearly impossible because even if the bundle is not a "rng loot box" the point where you need to spend it "see tanks" is one....

[faint flint]

You so wish there was inspectors like in the fruit machine industry that can check random things in on line games. Find out if advertised % drops are correct.

[thorny plume]

Its doable, just plaster a picture of terry crews saying no on your visa card. Buy nothing that has odds in it .

[thorny plume]

True rng doesnt excist

[gusty dove]

this game went from "Ah, I need this, let me spend 5$" to "here is a 0.0001% chance to win a random choice thing for 5$, where 1 out of 5 choices are actually useful". I stopped investing in their casino like games completely

[ember mantle]

Whats RNG stand for?

[thorny plume]

Random number generator

[stable cosmos]

Random number generator

[faint flint]

Buy a $5 token to gamble for an hq skin but 95% chance for 30 skin tokens

[ember mantle]

Thank you

[thorny plume]

That is a oxymoron, cant excist as it follows guidelines and algoritms

[gusty dove]

or 1 hours speed up 😏

[stable cosmos]

Electronic ones... aren't at least not exactly. They always establish the value from something. Often system clock

[gusty dove]

the problem is that FP RNG is SNG, Scam Number Generator

[thorny plume]

I know if I was funplus, id rig it. house always wins.. in Las Vegas thats kinda ok as their margins are small but the quantity is high, like the green 0 on roulette..

Im guessing funplus is a bit more greedy

[faint flint]

Hasn’t sos still got a pending class action going on still?

[thorny plume]

So their house wins a bit too much

[winter canyon]

Imagine spending 2000 pearls on tempest arms just to get 1.5% Troop Defense when you could've gotten more stats from a 200 pearl frame lol

[thorny plume]

Lol i hope so

[thorny plume]

Yea, its tipped a bit too much into one direction.

[mighty gorge]

I think they have a few.

[stable cosmos]

I think the rng is fine. I think they lie about the odds

It says 37% then its 0.3

[faint flint]

It was the previous owners I believe. Over the pack prices.

[winter canyon]

They didn't even bring Chris back in the gashapon event

[dense lance]

waiting for the Mersenne twister to come up

[gusty dove]

i seem to have pretty bad luck when it comes to SotF, 1000 throws and the 1% chance item still didnt occur.
I guess I just have bad luck 🤷‍♂️

[faint flint]

Those RE resonated heroes will never be able to be advanced after the event I heard

[thorny plume]

Like this badboy 😂

Wont EVER buy one of those yellow daldos

That one was so bad I wanna repro the gear just to never see if again

[ember mantle]

and the reforge ability?

[tardy night]

The gambling is fine. Not covered. Cuz there's no intrinsic value to diamonds and all the in game economy is pure made up bs.

[thorny plume]

I can try that once ive made another 220 gear pieces and reprocess em I believe

So maybe Ill get 4 percent vs riders instead 🤞

[deft arch]

Maybe if the reforge item was actually affordable to get on a consistent basis

4,000 coins makes it basically pointless to try without saving up for months

[faint flint]

I heard of someone reforging 2 items and got worse skills than the ones originally

[thorny plume]

Theres laws regarding the lootbox and odds, funplus is probably not squeeky if this ever had to be documented

[gusty dove]

how about 3%, the odds are 99,999% 🙂

[thorny plume]

When I spend 1000 euro doing spins, i expect their odds to be NEAR what they actually advertised

[winter canyon]

3% rider attack?🤣

[faint flint]

It was over advertised % discounts as the items was never sold at an original price.

[thorny plume]

Catzilla

[tardy night]

There aren't in the place the lawsuit is filed in. We asked

[thorny plume]

Yes but theres also laws about lootbox and advertised odds in eu iirc

[full pivot]

If you want to see the real value of all those bundles you've bought do a Google search for accounts. A whale goes for less than a few hundred, even if they've spent tens of thousands. Not condoning trading accounts of course, just giving an example

[faint flint]

Plus other countries was suspect to buy same packs a lot cheaper than others

[thorny plume]

I dont even wanna look at what ive spendt

[tardy night]

That's just buyer imposed value in a hypothetical market. Entirely an economy based on what both buyer/seller feel is adequate. Nothing concrete/fungible about it.

[full pivot]

Like the real economy then, duh

[tardy night]

It could be 0 the next day unlike a real economy.

[thorny plume]

They are. If i knew it was possible to switch a few years ago .......

[full pivot]

Tell that to the gas stations who change prices daily

[winter canyon]

I didn't even know that was possible

[coarse blaze]

We need a support group channel

[winter canyon]

To get a worse skill on reforge

[steel musk]

it's sos 🤣

[vale yoke]

Gas prices still have a minimum they can be set to, and, if laws are in place in the country or region, maximums.

[ember mantle]

I can put feedback in for tempest reforge to lock out lower skills if you like

[gusty dove]

Fp made it possible 🙂

[thorny plume]

Im not talking about their fake discounts, but their scammy odds. They apparantly dont do rng, it seems very tipped so spenders get lower odds then whats advertised

[faint flint]

Reforge should only be for the top 2 tiers of skills

[full pivot]

Ye okay, my apologies. Those accounts are worth exactly what the player spent on bundles😂😂

[deft arch]

Make it cheaper too, 4k coins is absurd

[thorny plume]

With that, the 4k price seems fair ish too.. now its a gamble

[tardy night]

We asked about this. The scammy odds are illegal in Europe etc. Where the lawsuit is filed, they are not considered scammy cuz that would imply a guarunteed value to the economy that can be exchanged to real world currency. There isn't one.

[vale yoke]

What Chek said

[full pivot]

So what then?

We have no recourse?

[tardy night]

So ask the government to change laws and fix digital asset values lol

[full pivot]

Just accept funminus are cheating, scamming azzes?