#šļø±feedback-discussion
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Iāll try, help me upvote if I submit it, thanks
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I'm F2P š
Thank you.I will. If you need any help,let me know.
I'm more than happy to help 
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Good job ā¤
Fair point . I know what you mean and I agree that the amount of bundles is not okay . Some don't worth it either if you ask my personal opinion .
Maybe the 30 days "subscription" bundles that we have for plasma or other items for behemoth and etc, are actually nice . I know that we have the option for solo items like plasma cores , crystals and etc.. but I kinda like this one
All the old old players we can remember even the older versions of that 30 days bundles I think
I have those too.
These are not bad if you're asking my opinion and it can help mid spenders too.

The value isn't fantastic, but for me it spreads the cost over the 30d
But I do see your points.
And it'd definitely be nice to see it in #šļø±feedback-reporting
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Yes
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Speaking of bundles.. the bad thing for some , it's that they are limited. Which I know that it upsets many players (myself included) 
Angelica for example.
However,We have requested to see more bundles of her coming back so even the spenders who didn't get to locate her,to be able this time
Must admit, I wanted Selina/Angelica, but the cost was prohibitive for me, well at least not without forgoing on paying rent lol
For example, what happens if only one state receives the angelica ?
@north moss I canāt share link to the feedback I submitted, it just removes my message with the link. Only a mod can post link to a post over here, can you help me post it here?
To add to everyone,while it does a different, it's a bit expensive 
So if you haven't maxed behemoth first,I'd recommend to focus there first and then go for the skin
Yup, sure!
These last levels of Behemoth are a killer.
Make sure to check all the amazing feedbacks in #šļø±feedback-reporting everyone 
Also check Vinn's feedback here:
#šļø±feedback-reporting message
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my leader is maxed and he didn't get Angelica so I get what you mean 
Please everyone help me upvote on this if possible to create more sparks in the game and allow cross-state recruitments.
I'd not say state based.
I will give you an example.
My leader is maxed and he has lost from people who are not full maxed but had Angelica.
We got matched tomorrow for alliance duels with an alliance that has 2 people with angelica.we will go full defense in this case ,but we know the result
I don't mind spending (to a degree), but where once I could spend and be a main RL, and even maintain a high level of position, its got infinitely more difficult because the amount required to spend to do that is deeper and wider.
I will never be able to do this š
@mighty gorge help me upvote on my feedback please.
Done
Done.
Thank you Dhanaš¤š and Hell Dogš
All advantages are simply too big. The game would be drastically better if having angelica and the other team doesn't was still only a double away from losing, whereas its a brick wall
Anytime š
I definitely get that.
It's not easy.
As my CMs said above also, we keep submitting lots of feedback about this as well. 
If angelica is 100%, then a team without is at 95% and a double is enough to knock angelica that would be fine., I've seen triples fail vs that setup, from strong leads, the power creep is awful
@north moss I see we have a friend in common š
I agree.
Many spenders didn't have time to locate her. It was a game changer for them.
And it shouldn't be not to that extent. Its madness really
1 Angelica hero is enough to make it so imba and this hero opens to only big spenders mostly because you must score really high in world event to get its fragment, nullifying f2p opportunities to get Angelica.
The kind of thing that ruins the game
Haha,we play the game as well
Moderators are in your side. We have the same features,issues,bugs. We keep forwarding all the feedback though.
I really hope that things will get better
I can del without having her, but having her shouldn't simply overpower every other bit of everything
Well, kinda can deal without having her. Completionist buttons are being pushed ,i want all the heroes even if they stay at trash tier
I definitely agree . She's too strong.
I can't protect myself anymore from the first hit. I'm Amalone the Defeated after Angelica 
We can submit a feedback about Angelica if you want
I know, I was just interested to see as he gets around a bit. Plus, I know he was previously a mod. And he's in my ally.
Won't help, the imbalance is baked in. Only way it stops is if they tone down all future releases to a minor boost when maxed out
I understand the whole thing about submitting feedback, but itās time that the developers KPI and performance are also held hostage on playerās satisfaction. This means the developer team must have a constant communication between players either through open and transparent communication on sos discord or between the mods, where the developing team must compulsorily submit a publicly available report at least once monthly, detailing which feedbacks are taken up and the progress. If feedbacks arenāt taken up, explanations and concerns have to be mentioned.
Better idea if Get 10 Diamonds just watching single ads
Wait until player has Selina and Angelica
Those monsters out there can burn people with maxed behemoths

My r5 got Selina atleast .
I asked him in SvS to rein me because I crashed
I was burned 1second after SvS started because I had no reins
How much troops did you have ?
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1 single solo could burn you right at the start of SVS SHOULD NOT EVEN be happening. Whatās wrong with developers honestly,
F2P P13 vs Kraken P13, single solo can beat F2P's settlement
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I agree that the communication should be better.
while the communication is not ideal,I can say that it has improved within years but still it can be improved.
And I will forward that to my chain of command.
I have something in mind that should help, so I will reach out to my CMs for that. 
š¬, MOD burned by players š±
7M 
Thatās madness if you ask me. A 240, 250k solo march can burn through 7m troops, that should not be happening.
Everyone wants to defeat the Undefeated 
that's a nice idea. I'd watch ads all the day
What if svs were made like an alliance duel? š
I agree from one point.. 
10 diamonds is just 10/499 * US$5 = $0.01. I get more watching ads in any other games.
That's a good point.
So we'd get all the troops back,you mean?
Oh, we have a new event, Money 'em up, looks exciting
We have submitted a lot of feedback about this if you would like to upvote in #šļø±feedback-reporting
Let me find the post really quick
Whilst on the subject of nullifying f2p, why has the Dig Up event now fully p2w only? In the past you could earn a limited amount of shovels by hitting objectives
#šļø±feedback-reporting message there it is
Yeah, I already did, thanks
Always tap
People in our state are getting more and more annoyed with those "pay-to-participate" events
Think in terms of money value.
Should 10k$ or lesser stand against 400k$
Fartplus answer and the whales' answer is no.
I agree that's it's not okay. I personally was using only the free claims 
Feel free to upvote here for the dig'up event #šļø±feedback-reporting message
And bundles with a % chance to get something
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DISAGREE. I like to see inactive players burn to reduce their overall BP, even if it means just reducing 10% of their overall troops. Many players have 1b, 2b power are just inactive during SVS doing absolutely nothing.
In fact I recommend if their SVS preparation ranking is more than 2x their state power ranking (because 2 states), they WILL NOT BE ABLE to activate any shield during warfare stage.
I loveee the idea honestly.
Would you like to submit this in #šļø±feedback-reporting with the format that it's posted in #šļø±feedback-how-to ? I can help if you need any help with that 
That's a good point also I mean regarding the overall inactive players base BP
Inactive people don't come to cc right?
Even "Active" players dont' come to CC any more lol
Yup that too. But CC is internal fight, so if they donāt come it doesnāt matter. External fights are what matters.
Big players P10,11,12,13 should not be shielding and stay at their hives throughout the entire warfare stage.
Do F2P expect to win 1v1 against whales in facilities/towers? Absolutely not. It would be ridiculous to think that you can win against players who spent much more than you.
But when we have 7 million troops in our HQ against their 300K solo? 7M troops should easily destroy 300K troops, even if those 7M troops had half the stats.
Doesn't it disappear if it is inactive players for a few months? š¬
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just telling what fartplus and many whales think about it. Lol
So
I am f2p now and just a normal player. Honestly speaking if I spent $400k, I would say no too.
New state with only T10 but you put throwdown tasks with 24h duration but a 1048k power task ? well thatās crazy
and for how many points
900
Ohio
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What do you mean by disappear? Players just come in everyday to train troops, increase their power but do nothing during important events, choosing to shield up.
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I can show complaints sent by krakens asking why they can't zero someone easily.
The company will follow the wallets

For older states (as you probably know), there are many dead/inactive, and these range from those that just sit in alliances to make up the numbers, to players that login once every week do nothing but intel and log off (and serve zero purpose) but still seem to count in the developers lunacy of being active. Additionally, I've been asked more than once to evict people and they dont' return for months.
Even those that do still stay on the map, but don't play it takes over 100d for them to disappear (if I recall)
There is a balance of course, but If I take my state as example, we have full alliances that do nothing but just 'exist' and are utterly useless in every respect. SvS is probably the only way without hurting your own state as to reduce this.
Do you mean a player will disappear from the map automatically after 100 days of not logging in without being burned or evicted?
Even Mid Spender or Big Whale losing on Kraken now
Before Behemoth exist, F2P have chance to survive attack
Yep. They still sit in the alliance, but actually they just disappear from the map, however their BP still counts.
It might even be less than 100d
We had very high chances of surviving attacks before they increased the combat morale to 300+
Combat Morale limit from 180 now 500š¶
Morale doesn't mean anything. It's just 10% boost. Regardless of whether it's 400 or 40000
But it seems to be the new p2w features every other week that played a huge role in the demise of F2P/smaller spenders
No wonder why some people ask the leader of less active alliance to kick their dead players, but still their power shouldnāt count if they go inactive for more than 7 days, regardless if they are in the map, in an alliance or not.
500+ now
Impressive morale
Their oldest game has morale at 89k or something. Doesn't change a single thing about damage output.
This is how people that have 2 or 3 active players get around the whole registration with some events. Join a dead alliance and voila, you have an immediate player base. But its falsely increasing the perception of state activity/presence/BP
3 months old state matchups with 8 months
It does matter
For 10%, yes.
Perhaps automatically remove a player from an alliance automatically if they have not been online for 30 days consecutively.
If the player is an R5, transfer the alliance lead to a R4 with the highest power in the alliance. If there are no R4, then move on to the R3 pool, then to R2 pool and then R1 pool.
Even if u have bad gear but high morale covers up for that quite a lot
New state?
Ye
We only win sometimes coz I had players big spenders with high morale
I gen when they had red gear
Our state doesnāt have that
Lol. Wait for limitless.
Neither behemoth
we already have a 1b bp guy who is going crazy
and itās Bcs of the morale that helps winning sometimes
Morale means nothing without behemoth/aircraftš
But I remembered during Throwdown that requires at least 15 players, my alliance was not allowed to participate because it does not have enough active players at the time. We had only 5 active players that login everyday, but 20 people in the alliance. Would that mean the developers actually does take into consideration āactiveā players?
Yep exactly
I was annoyed and complained about it yesterday
Coz these states we match up against have behemoth
And we donāt
They have advantage all the time
I mean, extrapolate this out. This is my old alliance before I left and we merged. I know for a fact the R5 is evicted, and the 24 other people in the alliance dont' play, or haven't been online for hundreds of days in some cases. But this is still 10B in BP showing against the state. I can do RR here.
Gets u rage quit pow
Same happened in our last RR
we see behemoth stats in reports
Heroes?
Behemoth/Aircraft/Heroes damage
They made everything faster in newer state ig
like what on earth does the system use for match up
With limitless that's very powerful
You can check on #š¤ļø±guide-bot what your state have and when you will obtain them
Like before
They did ye
aircraft is release like a month ago
Or month and half
If R5 has been evicted, and there are ZERO active members who logins at least daily to be transferred the R5, then it should be transferred to another member with the least inactive number of days until the last standing member. Following the last inactive members reaching 30 days inactivity and kicked, the alliance would be dissolved automatically.
after 1 month of state opening
Before svs before everything
Its not like before
Probably they will do the same with behemoth
Different story with this as the R5 could be taken, and its unique. It was more just to give an example.
Maybe that guy is the vip12 in a week, I have to double check it 
I understand, but still the R5 should be automatically transferred and inactive members >30 days should be automatically kicked from the alliance, regardless their rank.
I understand what you mean.
Unfortunately ,the most of the states are having this kind of issues 
I apologize for the delay. I was forwarding some feedback 
Its all good, I forgive you š
Hmm, my avatar effect keeps disappearing
He's like that 1110 guy

I probably submit another feedback to automatically kick players from an alliance upon reaching >30 days of inactivity.
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If the player is an R5, transfer to another active player with the highest power in R4. If no R4 available, then R3, then R2, then R1.
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if none of the players are active and are days inactive, transfer to the one with the least inactivity number of days.
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if the R5 is last man standing, dissolve the alliance without recourse.
Feedbacks please.
lot of troops were trained there
Lot of skins were bought there as well

One hit u get kicked from center
No need for rally
At least they donāt go rogue
Like one guy did
In a state Iāve seen
Went rogue burned everything to the ground
You should talk that in #šļø±sos_discussion , yours is not even a feedback. Like what the player should be barred from buying packs? Stop being unreasonable.
I didnāt say that
We talking about morale

Iām here for everyone
The matchmaking sucks
Because you keep posting unnecessary and here we are discussing feedbacks. Talk that in #šļø±sos_discussion and I will reply you there. Itās more relevant there if itās just a sharing and complain session.
Well I didnāt see a mod telling me to do that
Maybe become one as well?
Unless you have a good idea or feedback that you wanna share.
Yes I do
Let's be calm please 
Well then be nice and donāt prevent good feedback discussion. Or just share whatās your feedback rather than endlessly complaining about someone being VIP12 on 1 week. Thatās not a feedback.
donāt put states against states that donāt have releases like behemoth or red gear
Thats would be nice
Or maybe release them earlier
If so
:)))
That would be great as well
better ?
Would you like me to submit the feedback ?
Yes
You can type them all in a post so we understand it better. You just wanna spam. But let mod handle your feedback because itās bits and pieces.

I just wish troops meant somethingš
And matching system has been discussed widely, maybe share which specific event you are encountering matching unfairness, so we can discuss it
I need your state number please
And also the event which you reffering to
And that it would take more than 2 solo hits to burn a number like 10 million
1253
Yes this oneā¦your feedback are bits and pieces, the feedback wouldnāt even help.
Also add states from 1249 to 1254
I'm not sure I share the view on this albeit I think this is just me looking at it more so from a personal perspective and what it would mean for me.
I see what you are trying to do, especially in the context of R5; auto transfer and dissolution would be a no if I considered how it impacted me. I kept my old alliance from a memory perspective as its something I built over years, so its a personal thing and I'm the only one it in it.
That said, I do periodically login, but maybe not as frequent as every 30d
Okay i will add them as well. Please let me know which event(s) you reffering to so we can form a good structured feedback. If it's too general i don't think it will pass
pow - azurtane heist - RR generally all the events that has a matchmaking feature against other states
They have advantages like behemoth and red gear which we donāt.
we would like the same or to make a limit for the range of matchmaking
I understand. I will file it for you now
I think there is already feedback around states that have been matched but are at different release/generations.
How many days do you suggest? Because like what you mentioned, the problem of having inactive players to artificially increase power and āactiveā members is impacting the state. Also why do we want to keep dead alliances? From a game perspective, it just takes up space for the servers.
Also we need state mods in those states or at least one of them
Because thereās none.
More the better 
You can apply to be one
Well. You can always apply you know right?
Not interested
Unfortunately can't do anything about it since Mods are players who are willing to be a mod
Give me some time to file the feedback about matchmaking and i will come back to you
If you wanna positively and have more say in your state, you should consider or ask someone in your state to apply then.
Thank you
Its just coz of the amount of trolls we deal with and chats are active both migo and state chat
Some trolls makes new accounts
Nothing has been done to address the generation skip from 12 to 15-16 for states 500-704
And too much insults there and spamming
Ultimately and reading between the lines of what he's saying, because its pretty poorly constructed is that it relates to matching in SvS, RR and other events, where states that are matched with them already have say Dino where they do not or aircraft where they do not etc.
This has always been a long standing issue at the cusp of new releases, but like I said, it wasn't very well constructed.
The state can be saved to some extent by giving the accounts of powerful players who have left the game to f2p ones. What is your opinion?
Most of the state alliances members have the same amount of blocks Bcs of that
That will get u banned.
Well isnāt that good at least you have something to do. When I was mod, I literally had nothing to do, because my state chat is so civilised most times and probably so quiet.
My dad was a mod
No compensation of any sort... we just get 4 generations at the same timeš

I have not against mods
Which state
We just got Gen3
500-704
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Yes Elizabeth, I reported this just several days ago. This came shocking to me.
U talking abt smt else
We were Gen 12 (I expected to be 11), then suddenly we were already in Gen 16
Who are you
Is this good enough or you want to add more details?
Is it good ?
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Just a spammer
thatās why many feedbacks donāt go through.
I need coffee š sorry
Fix the pow matchmaking according to behemoth power 
To be fair to @molten comet I think he/she has done well to interpret the poor explaination.
Asta, You know you can type more than 15 characters in a single post right?
Yes part of mod duties to deal with these people.
r u sre bt dat š
That's a very good suggestion
Yea I typed a wall of text for my feedbacks.
We are here in the same team
Trying to help with our community's issues
Pasta
I made several suggestions earlier if you care to look back. Covered by Astraās unnecessary spams.
Hi aasta
Already on them 
I would talk a lot more and give more feedbacks about giving Asians cheap packs and free stuffs or a hero that only exists for them 
Dont space
But Iāll stop here for today
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Let's keep the channel for feedback suggestions and discussions only. if you do not have anything valuable according to those please head over to #šļø±sos_discussion or #š§ļø±general
Hellooo
We sincerely donāt mind if you type everything in a single post. You talk in bits and pieces, and there are no content to whatever you say. We do not understand what you want and we canāt do any constructive discussion.
Yes sir thanks for the heads up
I am here to listen , let's discuss about it

After
Are u gonna type one word and send?
Have a look at mine. I gave 2 suggestions earlier. But covered by all the chats lols..maybe let me link it for you.
This is why we end up with 'tactical emotes' š or march screens that look like doggie doo doo
Yes please
My first feedback here
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2nd feedback here
What do you think about this one? What do you suggest about those players? Should the system not calculate their bp?
Itās about forcing these less contributing players to be active during prep and perhaps warfare and unable to shield. If they wanna shield they must contribute to the SVS prep. Otherwise they will be a sitting pool of dead power.
I think this is difficult and needs more context. Imagine a xyz player being R5 and for xyz reason needs to be inactive for 30 days. Automatically he will lose all progress
How to find missing players š¬
That said, if their state ranking is 50, their SVS prep rank must be 100 or better (2 states competing).
You can't force a player play an event. It's their decision and only. I had many issues with that but it's a part of their game. Imagine i had a massive player who had enormous bp before all those features just standing there and chatting. He didn't want his kills to be increased
What do you mean?
I mean inactive players
Then I got a question to ask you. What is the purpose of these big players P10,11,12,13 sitting there if they donāt even contribute to SVS prep or SVS warfare? They make a huge difference in the state power matching, yet contribute nothing or less than their level.
Depends if they are already in the clouds or not. If not in the clouds, governor can find them using governor ability or you can manually find them on the map. Otherwise you can no longer find them. But whatās the relation to my 2nd feedback?
Well personally i agree with you but force them to play an event which (for their own reasons) they don't want to or can't makes it difficult. Let's say i am a rally leader and i had an argument with my state or i didn't push prep because i was saving to push next migo or next event. I don't want to participate or can't participate svs because of rl issues. Should i receive penalty from system?
Yes, and my suggestion for this penalty? Dont allow them to be able to open peace flare for the entire period of SVS warfare. If they donāt contribute during SVS prep, they have to contribute in warfare. If they are zeroed during warfare stage, the alliance still earn some brownie points and their amount of troops reduces by 10%. They shouldnāt have that much power aimlessly doing nothing, for whatever reasons.
Its not so much inactive, but rather players that are still present on the map. But a Gov can do it from here:
or you can spend time manually searching as Vinn said
Thanks
So if a player for his/her reasons can't play this week ? Should the player loses all the progress?
Just saw they made shovel event even worse than it used to be. Are lucky cards next on the list? 
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Isn't it actually more a case of the events need to be more attractive to players? To reverse the view. You will always get those that can't play due to RL commitments etc, but I would have thought the root cause needs to be looked at rather than the effect.
You know people have lives outside the game? Legends say some even go on vacations that often are one or two weeks long and take a break from game š¤£
Good point. But you can recover 90% lost troops during SVS, not to say the hospital can go up to 1m capacity now.
Supposing you have 10m troops, your hosp capacity is 600k, you only lose 10% * 30% * (10m - 600k) = 282k troops lost.
I donāt see why a fairly inactive player doing nothing cannot suffer a 300k troops reduction. They are not losing their entire progress like what you are said. They lost only 3% of their entire troops count.
Maybe this can make the event more attractive or any event. I think most of the events needs revamp. Personally i like the old svs more. Some adjustments like times etc could be included
Instead of removing ability to bubble from certain players in my opinion they should allow bubble time stacking or longer bubble options so that you can actually go offline vacation stressfree without the need for goverbor to evict
Someone who is too weak to contribute much or can't participate at all because of real life events shouldn't be punished. It is possible to make an algorithm where players who haven't participated in either prep or warfare for 1 or 2 SvS will no longer be counted in the matchmaking score.
If you have to take a break that long, request to be evicted from the map or be bulldozed away. Then the game shouldnāt consider the power from these players (and they donāt) for the purpose of SVS matching.
But preventing them to shield or punishing them in some other way isn't good...
and also don't receive any rewards?
Well thatās to encourage player activity. Whatās the point to have half the state of active players (in old states there arenāt even a lot of them) be sitting ducks opening shields while the state is losing a battle?
Personally i would like strong players to help State to play SvS but it's difficult to "force" any player play the event
Like i said i had that issue before and i totally understand what are you trying to say
Look at my 2nd feedback as well if you may.
There are many people who are absent for several weeks for work and various travel activities.
Okay here
@strong grove I gave a good solution here if they taking a break.
Why 30 days and not 33 ? Should the disban include and the towers ?
If you are logical and really wanna help the state, you should do something before your weeks long break.
At the end of the day, we are talking about balance and fairness. As equally as players need the gaps bridged between lower and upper, equally if I spend my entire day doing SvS, taking the capital, I dont' expect that a person turns up on Monday and claims the rewards for all the work others have done.
But why 33 days?š
I agree on this 100%
Exactly , that's my point haha
69 days sounds nicer :p
30 days signifies a month typically.
Players who don't participate in SvS get no stage/MIGO rewards
61 days, so when they come back they can choose move to another state or stay
But it's also possible to just not include a semi-active player into the next matchmaking score if he/she doesn't participate in 1 or 2 svs
True, but even dead accounts get 'state' rewards; so why should they not be distributed fairly to those people that were present e.g. scaled
But the point of my feedback is not to allow these players to artificially increase alliance power and number of members in the alliance. So kick them out automatically from the alliance after a period of consecutive non-login days. 30 days is fair because that long away and youāre practically useless.
I see , well what if a player has an issue and will come back in day 31
Don't think too much, this is just a game.
Like I said asked to be evicted from by the governor or bulldozed away using migo. Besides if they are out from the alliance in 30 days, they can rejoin the alliance when they are back. Whatās wrong?
I need something to eat I think lol. My mind is overthinking and running away with itself with the convo.
The player loses his R5 status. In one hand it's "fair" for the other players in the other hand the player was R5 and created the powerhouse
Do you think itās logical to put the state in a detriment situation knowing youāre going to be away for that long and not going to contribute at all?
No it's not but maybe the person has a reason for that

I don't find it bad idea but i need more infromation about it
It would help if you take active steps. I KNOW I AM GOING TO BE GONE FOR 35 DAYS for whatever reason - send me to the clouds so my power doesnāt count for power matching.
I need food as well , we may need a small pause or a co-mod can assist š
Just delete everyone that has angelica or selina and haven't logged in for 12 hours š
Are you sure that in clouds power doesnāt count?
Like people know they are going to be gone that long, but have no decency to send themselves to the cloud? Then whatās their contribution? Just coming in everyday to train troops doing nothing, whatās the purpose?
Yea doesnāt, afaik.
What if the gov sent them to clouds and they come back after matchmaking
And then few biggest whales band up and decide to not log for 7 days just so they get easier svs opponent :p
Well it is count, they are in the cloud but their power still count on matchmaking. Thatās why devs started to working on that inactive players (not online atleast 30 days) powers will be excluded from matchmaking
About r5 if they are not active for 7 days anyone can take his position
Btw I got what you are saying
From what I know it doesnāt. At least thatās what my state claims and what I understand from,
What if there are zero people active in the alliance but the alliance has great deal of power?
@humble spear something like this. Almost 10b power
Don't count the alliance if they haven't been active then
But they still on alliance ranking board.
What is your state?
Go and zero them
But don't include their power in the matchmaking score if they are inactive
Something completely differentā¦..
When players give feedback here, in discord. We all see. We also see whether players agree or not.
We even see some feedback being upvoted by 1k players and the devs choose to ignore.
Now we get an endless request for giving feedback ingame, via camp cafƩ.
Some get 1,000 bios, but we see none of the feedback. Plus, I havenāt seen ANYONE being invited for a talk with the devs.
Canāt the devs just check here? And actually do something with the feedback.
That camp cafƩ just seems like a bottomless pit, where you throw in your feedback and nobody who sees it and none of the players can see whether a valuable feedback is ignored.
I mean, the feedback here is ignored, but at least we can see how much the devs ignore.
Very good idea
Why should own state be killing each other? Let other states do it.
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You said that they are inactives
Many states are happy to zero someone out during SVS. But majority are often shielded.
I noticed a few players in Camp CafƩ, but even if you read some of the responses to that session, its just another placebo effect to give the illusion they are listening. MKR and @wide wraith (I think) where on that Camp CafƩ, but I also think they are targeted to specific subjects.
@vale yoke was invited to a developer discussion back in September, that STILL hasn't happened. Its all just noise and smoke and mirrors to make people think they are listening.
Just delete everyone that has angelica or selina
I fixed your typo 
That was not pertaining to my SVS feedback, look carefully. My feedback on this was not to allow them to shield during warfare stage if they did not contribute significantly enough during SVS prep stage
I did finally get hold of Nanami, and we managed a small chat with the help of an Lmod, but it was definitely NOT the dev chat I was promised months ago.
Yes she was invited, but that was outside the camp cafeā¦.
Plus it is ridiculous they invited her and after 4+ months it hasnāt been arranged yetā¦.š¤£š
No, it wasn't outside Camp Cafe
And the 2nd feedback was to kick them from an alliance if they are inactive to prevent them from staying in an alliance. Most people donāt kick their members even though they are already in the clouds, and the alliance remains high in power artificially.
It was the first Camp Cafe, and I received my invitation from my commentary
Lurker lol
Oh wow! I didnāt know it was because of the camp cafĆ©
I got my invite September 5th, the day before my birthday, and thought "oh what a lovely gift".
Might be the next after that is luckyslotsš¤£
Problems should be sorted separately
Example koth, rr, mm
I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that FP is just a large dysfunctional family
So, the first session never had the āpriceā materialisedā¦.
We are now at the 16thā¦.
Imagine how many dev/player talks took place š¤£šš¤£
Hi groot
Itās a FP+ present, never a real present š¤£šš¤£
Some maybe took place. They invited biggest spenders and instead of players talking they just asked
"Why u spend measly 8k $ a month now? What can we do so you once again spend 30k like you used to?" 
Hey hunš
My invite. Note the date.
But thatās not part of the camp cafe either š¤£š
Bahahaha!
That feels like its a display bug
It took me months just to get into contact with Nanami, despite personally messaging her as instructed, and that was only because Snappy got us into a group chat together.
It does. I tried restarting my game, then device, then uninstalling and reinstalling, but it didn't help. Lol
Which is also idiotic!!!!!
But, thatās how FP+ worksš¤£šš¤£
I was actually surprised that Nanami was here 'chatting' earlier.
She outright told me she doesn't check messages
But also it was a little discerning that most of the answers where I don't know
Oh wow! She woke up from hibernation?
Thatās just how a good CM does his/her work š¤£šš¤£š
There are just so many they (CMs) receive, that I think it's probably difficult for them to get through them all, but I mean... 
Then its down to bad personal management
If I message Saber, usually I can get a message from him with relative quickness (depending on what's happening in the community and PTR).
Well, if they would show up here a bit more, maybe that would helpš
I agree, same for me
Tbh I think that's a little bit of poor personal time management, but also company directive.
Is there anyone here using ptr
a rare sighting indeed
I've never done PTR tbh
I would like to see their job description š¤£šš¤£š
I quit a long long time ago
I could see if I still have their job posting from before Nanami was hired on lol I almost applied
You don't have to see it, its available anywhere what the role of a CM is.
And its not what they do here...
I was lacking the online community management requirements they noted, which is why I didnt
Turns out, I probably didn't need em lol
They should hired another cm like selina.
Nanami not even legendary one 
You are more qualified then she isš¤£šš¤£š
Ptr is really usefull, they always test and repair bugs before release š¤£
They could have hired me and then they would have not only had me silenced under the company line, but actively working for their benefit instead of ours.
Dropped the ball there, eh?
Bahahaha! Yeahš
I possess the ability to play three different video games at the same time while also doing housework, managing a home business, and being a middle-aged unkempt rabble-rouser.
Years of retail experience means I can smile in someone's face and tell them in professional jargon to take a long walk off a short pier.
Being the mom of teenagers means I can ignore people at will.
Imagine their policy in paying salary.
We promise you x amount in salary.
Just contact nanamisos in discordā¦š¤£š¤£
4+ months laterā¦..
Ooooh, I can apply too!!!!
I am a teacher, I teach kids in the ages of 12-16.
Plus I am a mom of teenagersā¦š¤£šš¤£š
I need same guy's screenshot after 1b power
I think I even told her I don't care about having a dedicated developer chat as promised if it meant I had an access line of communication to advocate for us as more of a union rep or such.
But they do actually need to tell me if they were being false about the dev chat.
State 1234 highest power still 300m š now this game is rigged
If you teach kids in that age group, you can definitely handle gamers.
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Yet itās annoying :))
Up until now, they havenāt delivered the price they promised, soooo
We donāt have red gear
šššš
we were good one week ago
Idk why they extended the range again to those states etc
Yes!!!! You are like a teenager tooš¤£šš¤£
Even offered to work for booze and smokes. That was not accepted.
Nyx? If im right?
and I know how to deal with teachers š
š¤£šš¤£š sure?šš
Definitely. I used to deliver IT into new schools, so spent 4 years dealing with 'Teachers' requests lol
Dealing with teachers: ask if they prefer wine or liquor, coffee or tea, then get them one of each of their preferred as a Christmas gift with a note of "thank you for all you do".
Some of them even not at all to do with IT š
š¤£šš¤£š not all teachers are the same ofcourseā¦.
I often get chocolate and other presents from my students

I never get liquor š„ŗ
Or wine
Nice feedback š¤£
Aww if I lived there, I'd get you a small bottle of something lovely.
Tabasco?
Yes NYX around 300m
I did my big feedback thing last night, Titaka. Ya girl isn't fully awake yet lol
#OMG
Oi. No.
I know her played with her in 1000 talked to her the other day :)))
Thatās why I was complaining
I've got a great hot sauce actually if you like a bit of heat, but I think it's a Yank thing.
We prefer having more packs and red gear like ur states have and others do 1200+
or just reduce the range until those things are released in our state
My youngest son loves tabasco thoš¤£šš¤£
So you really have not got red gear? Wtf?
Can understand. My youngest loves Texas Pete
I prefer Frank

Same in heist and RR
That's... I have none words
Such premium matchmaking š
@distant gull look the top 1
same top 1 in pow
Full stats
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Behemoth red gear all the kind of the things our states doesnāt have

Its not unheard of. This has been going on for 4 years. I think even when my own state was younger we had the same issues with states that had the next level of gear.
Yeah, everyone is someone's chew toy
OMG, FP does is everywhere, not only in the cross gen states
We had that at the first pow and they reduced the range and now they put it back the way it was before at the beginning again
None is bothering to play anything anymore coz of that
heist pow RR
I can imagine
I feel like it's to create a sense of urgency when it is released in your states, so people go into a buying frenzy.
@feral kraken
its like u meet the same teams over and over wherever u go at some point nothing but shaking hands with them thatās whatās left to do
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Memories of fighting @astral stratus in SvS multiple times and getting to the point of saying, "oh hey, how are you! How's life?"
Is that the same Lisa from 739?
I assume the 4 deaths were all to bombs
@worldly sable that you?
True
Most likely
Different Lisa
Figures
Just seemed co-incidental
Yup
But, you can see the issue. Its a pre-organised team.
But as I said to someone yesterday, PoW I generally don't have issues with
Everything is a spending competition. No strategy involved...
PoW is 100% luck... one match you win and the other you lose horribly
It was like that
Now itās not
Its all about stats
They go camp in towers
And u go camp at ur house waiting for the match to end

Thats all I do, sometimes š
I won a few matches because I was lucky enough to run into even weaker opponents on those matches
Best memories 
But when your strongest loses to their weakest... it's over
No strategy at allš
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We struggle winning against the neighbor states
Let alone
The ones far away now
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Yoa are Whale
Nah
I do like powš¬
Usually only event when luck is more on my side
But the original was still much better
At least the battle engine in Path of Water makes sense... 10K troops of whale will not beat 100K troops of F2P in pow
Unlike in other pvp where 360k troops can kill 38m 1 hitš
Not always true
Some kills every single one with their first march
Cant do anything just stay in starting placr
But they have 100K vs your 100K
Yes but they kill your team of 5 both marches with one march do its similiar
Expecially it was like that in the pow summit tournament
I feeled like the bots what we had in pow, what i think fp took away because haven't seen them lately
Bots are alive and well still
Yea but only on low ranks below gold and the green rank forgot the name
I just haven seen them then
And thats only cause by now most players ranked up from there
So you get bots sometimes
So they havenāt been taken away then!
Im way under gold and haven't seen them
Bad luck then š perhaps the time makes more players active
Fix matchmaking.
In what universe is this a reasonable match
Itās like they donāt understand their own game mechanics, and how 1 OP player completely unbalances things
If you're the winner it probably feels kinda good. š¤·š¼āāļø
But yes it's a real problem
Any thoughts on how to fix it?
No š
Iām not a programmer, but obviously if everyone on 1 team is purple monkey, you cannot put a max beheomth player in that match
I refuse to play pow
Girl same
So you'd suggest that behemoth level be used as a matching bracket or something similar?
Dont say that in here devs might change itš¬
Behemoth power is probably the biggest indicator of strength
I think it's possible not to put 300M march bp and 100M bp players in the same lobby
So behemoth power one category, march BP another
I donāt need the same Nanami stickers for the 10th time
I deleted it... but you see that at least pow makes some sense unlike hq hits where it doesn't matter if you have 1 million or 38 million troopsš
I think the parameters the devs are using are too broad spectrum to allow for a decent fight for most people. Even if they are currently using Behemoth as one of the metrics to determine matches, it's not a defined enough set of parameters and is allowing, alongside other stuff, to create matching in which the seeding is out of control.
It needs more fine tuning in order to create a satisfactory experience, and the company just doesn't seem willing to put in the work to do that.
Did that sound all smart and stuff? I tried really hard.
Behemoth power makes 200M+ of their 300M bp march.
Super smart
I think it's possible to divide into a few categories:
- Whales: 250M+
- Dolphins: 150-250M
- F2P: Under 150M
Overall this game is getting out of control (already has) you really cant even join cap rally if your behemoth isint strong enought and all tempest, tank on top of it.
All very good thoughts. I do wonder though if the number of people playing is big enough to support more fair matching.
I would be astounded if not
I'm not even f2p
The ranges can vary based on state ageš
Im f2p if i have massive march on im dolphinš¤£
Massive march doesn't work in path of water... it's a fixed 100K capacity
Wish they bring back that same strength pure strategy pow
Depends on the state youāre in
In my state whales are 5b and above
Does that make be a whale because I'm 4bn? lol
I just looked at my own march bp like, I'm a whale?
You have 4 billion here???š¤£
makes kelp noises
You're talking about March Cap or BP?
I knowš¤£
State 398 right?
If so, congratulations... you are stronger than Prof Shiekh
Whales at that state should be 7-8b
Prof Shiekh has 39b lols, what you saying
We have 1 whale at 10bn, thats it.
Pow march power... not BP in settlementš¤¦š¼āāļø
Yup he is the true whale, the rest are small whales
Some are planktons
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Killer whales at 398 - 7.5b
Sharks - 5b
Mantis - 2b
Shrimps - below 2b
And plankton š¤£šš¤£
That's not Path of Water march BPš
Same but never going to happen
The best I saw in PoW so far was around 330mln march power
You need to be specific rather than just banding around numbers. I read it it differently initially.
My formation march in PoW is 225m. Not that I take any notice
Go to "Path of Water" ā "Assign Troops" and assign your best march... check the BP there
Just making clear it was not my march, enemy had it :p
I got lose streak on POW

Mine is measly 100mln
It's a good thing I don't have an inferiority complex. On that note, heading out to smoke and cry over... Things.

Thatās the complex I assume most whales haveā¦ā¦
Trying to compensate šš¤£š
I've known a fair few who just have the money to spend and like to see what they can get out of it, but otherwise my experience has been Operation Compensation.
On the real, I've appreciated many of our community's whales over the years because a number have helped drive changes, or have just been really cool people. But gaming overall tends to have a degree of those who feel they come up short and use online virtual existence to make up for those perceived inadequacies.
Many whales are great people who help their state grow and they contribute much more to the state than anyone else can. The problem with the game is that devs don't understand basic mathsš
I think whales will be over 350 million for sure. Some might be around 400 million or above.
2 Ć 4 = 6
75% Ć 1046% = 618%
And 360K troops can burn 38M troops 1 hit
Lmao 2+2 = 6?

1 Ć 2 Ć 4 = 6 according to dev, yes
And 2 Ć 3 = 5
If you're lucky enough to hit two multipliers in lucky card, you will notice they don't stack like they should...
Gladly im never lucky
I agree, most areā¦.,
But I have seen loads that are compensating tooš¤£šš¤£
One particular state where they have gathered š¤£š
There they also donāt care to build up their state too
šššš behemoth
Actually, you're wrong here. Its an additive bonus not a multiplicative one.
so 2+3 = 5x
Personally, this has more to do with how FP are unable to articulate themselves very well.
Do you know what a multiplier means...
Multipliers aren't supposed to be additive
Its how they describe it, if they where more specific it wouldn't be an issue.
The multiplier is what the result of the additive is.
so the 5x
All they are doing is stacking as a modifier.
And honestly, I've never seen it any different in 4+ years of playing
..outside of their dumb mistakes
You start with 1x bonus. You multiply the 1x bonus by 2x making it 2x. Then, you multiply the 2x bonus by 3x. Should you get 5x or 6x
So happy they made also digging event completely p2p, we need more of these kind of events... Also while you're at it introduce a daily bundle just to be able to login please
Seems they really did I was already searching for a event to get those shovels, jeez, the rewards are crap as a F2P, they pretty much showed ONCE AGAIN their true face
First time they released Star Ascension and Journey of Surprises, F2P had a free try. But now they ruined them completely.
Rewards are crap but f2p can't get even that š¤£
job well done I guess lol
before you know it you need to pay 99 cents to log-in
hahaha
If you haven't upvoted my feedback about f2p access to those events, please go to #šļø±feedback-reporting and scroll a little. Support would be lovely.
If a lurking moddie could link directly that would be even better
Hint
I can't that's just bullsh
But I admire your persistance, but we all should know by now they don't intend to listen anyway
every time this issue comes up, I always feel like I need to give people lessons on how to setup a discord server lol
Lol
Almost feels like a prison that is almost in lockdown lol
You know I also appreciate your kindness and understand where you're coming from. It's all good, luv
I don't know if its lack of knowledge, or imposed restrictions from FP. I would like to think its the latter
I upvoted it though, just 0.000000001% hope left
If you limit who can use certain perms, you create another level of dependency on the role which do use it. Generally with reasoning like, "It's to ensure the server remains family friendly and there is no channel linking which is done erroneously/out of official capacity".
And thanks, E. Live long and prosper.
I seriously hate auto-mod too, its the most unfriendly thing ever. So many better alternatives
Its OK, if you have a very small community server, but when you have a need for flexiblity and a large base of members, its utter tosh.
It's not intuitive to understand nuance in some fashions, and instead of working in advantage of the server, it tends to create more problems than solutions
Its life Jim, but not as we know it š
That's very accurate š
Automod is very black in white in many ways so on servers of this size, it results in users either trying to actively outsmart it (dissidents, but I luv em), or becoming frustrated because they can't communicate concerns without feeling very targeted and stifled.
And people don't want to go through the trouble of working around them. I do, but I'm contrary by nature and take it as a challenge, but for most people, it's too much work.
I'm generally of the philosophy of not to cut corners, put in the effort initially and the output will be infinitely more rewarding
Agreed
If you refer to the bonus ticket event? The multiplier is not multiplied but added instead
100%
Unfortunately, we've landed in a world of FP corner cutting.
Especially for a mobile game where there are so much more of, most players now just stay for the friends they made
My belief is that if you put the work in the first time, you only set yourself up for success later on.
In short, do the work now so you can be lazy later
Its not even about being lazy later, its about making it easier for yourself later if you need to maintain or change anything. You have the flexibility to do so, because you thought it out to begin with and just didn't accept the first solution that came along.
So, you where lazy about your follow up sentence š
Anything which allows me to kick my feet up and do minimal work/continued maintenance is "lazy"
Is that what multipliers are supposed to do?
There are variations on how to apply, but its common practice, yes.
I think, in this case, the word multiplier is being used to signify a stacking bonus modifier, and not being used entirely literally
I watch this since a while now. If you think its not working like you think its supposed to... you opened a bug ticket in game?
Otherwise it's just going around in circles
Which is what I said before about FP being unable to articulate themselves very well. Which, wouldn't be the first time.
They am good not speeching.
aight
Itās the multiplier when individually calculated, but when both are considered its addition lolsš
@winter canyon and Lian explained pretty good
They make everything complicated
So the totally rigged dig event is back
But at least in the past you were guaranteed to get the first prize without spending. Now no task to get shovels. They are really pushing these pay only āeventsā
Not the first time (or 3rd) we didn't got shovels for it and it's only bundles but I'm pretty sure it is the first time this event cost more than what you get from weekly bundles and unless you buy everything and just look to buy some more than what they offer every week you don't have any reason to buy these
Ye this one is really bad š
Hi chief, this really is unfortunate to see, indeed.
We should really have these events to where all players are able to contribute. Realistically these teases where players can buy one or two attempts with biocaps / do tasks are to entice f2p to spend even the smallest amount on the "rush". Seems that players are smarter than that so, removed the ability to do so.
However it would be nice to have these back and i'd encourage you to make a movement about it in #šļø±feedback-reporting

My opinion on this take is they're promoting the new features and pressuring the whales to get them to remain on top of everyone else. Tank searches sure are expensive on their own and with so very limited currently it would be the case of a marketing strategy.
If you have suggestions to make it more "enticing" for players to participate i'm sure "certain" people would love to hear your ideas in #šļø±feedback-reporting
The regular bundles give you more then this, so I assume nobody sees the added value to buy this
And no, no use of making a feedback, since the devs ignore the feedbacks
You're right, what the idea would be is that they're very limited and expensive so instead of buying a 99.99 they would grab the less for price but still spend less
While this game was always āpay 2 winā the devs are really pushing this to the limit the last years.
Somehow they do not see how they are hunting out players and therefore making their revenue less and less stable.
In the current path they need to keep adding shiny new features, making the game more and more unstable.
Tbh, whoās gonna keep paying for an unstable game, a game where all their friends and worthy opponents left already.
Reading that alone just makes me wanna quit
We had 2 free to play quit in 24 hours
The devs donāt care about F2Pā¦.
But they forget these are the friends of P2P.
Plus, whoās gonna be the cannon fodder the whales need to feel good.
I spent $100 in another game last night and was able to get a loootttt of skins - felt cheap š„²
They even provide customer service to their players that spend nothing
idk why any of us are still supporting funplus
šÆ most likely itās the fault of our addiction š¤£šš¤£
Hi Everyone, sorry ti asjk here but the hive mind seems immense on this channell š
does anyone know if they inend to offer any last Resident Hero frags/packs before event ends?
I just remind myself that I could have gotten a car instead and promise to quit soon, lol
You can comfort yourself by knowing others could have gotten a luxurious house or yacht
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This is true
It hurts knowing that even if you spend 10k a month, the devs will still spit in your eye and lie to you
id love to have a life where i wouldnt miss 10k š
i buy a $5 pack and have guilt afterwards! š¤£
What game is it Lisa it looks like I may have some free time soon
Any non mobile game lol
No information has been released, so we are assuming there won't be any more frags.
If you haven't completed the story explores, they are still available via the Hero Precinct.
cool ty, i just hand a handful of unused and wondered if they would, although 90% thought it would just go the way of the Daryl, Joker et al š
So far it is about the same as Daryl and Joker, the generic resonating frags were the method that they thought up to keep selling the fragments. I think it's pretty likely they'll do it again, but there's never any guarantees. It probably comes down to whether Capcom thought of it or not 𤣠There's probably at the minimum a clause in there that no money could change hands during the event that could be used for Chris, Ada and Leon that Capcom doesn't get a cut of, though.
The advertising of other games is against server rules. Please refrain and adhere to the rules

Looks like they didn't discuss another game, rather the developer of the IP FunPlus just collabed with. Silly OG. I mean YG
The teenager wants me to drive them somewhere
Tell them to stalk the bus
Lol only one person rides the bus now, so the stalking is way down. I've graduated to chauffeur
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I wanna push my way in here and say hi
Liannin, how are you!
Maybe online games is a solution? I'd knew one
I'm good! How are you!
Misleading consumers is also against the rules. Fp has no problems with that
Ah but you see, I play so many of them, it's easy to lose track
Meh, American Sweet Tea...all kinds of wrong lol
I actually agree, as an American
Always good, looking for a interesting conversation to join, sw your name and knew I would find it here
No wrong just different
3+ cups of sugar to one gallon of sweet tea is diabeetus, not different lol
About the frags you guys were talking about, I am hoping they figure out a way in the future to allow for continuing on with the heros, very similar to Darryl and Joker, but that took like over ayear for them to do
As an upper class, aloof, I wear a cravate to dinner and a smoking jacket. I say dear lass, British tea is the correct tea.
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I hold to just slightly over 2 cups and diabetes hasnt found me yet
I tend to go with āyou alright mateā 
Correct maybe but its not very tasty
Then you've never had a cup of lady grey š¬
With lots of sugar yep
See...this is me trying to be all fancy like so it sounds like I know what I'm talking about š
No one faint but I microwave the water
Holy potatoes
Liannin, why would troops suddenly be weaker than they were before, by suddenly I mean like over the last couple of months
Don't you bring potatoes into this
It isnt tempest, behemoth, or formation
Nerfing. I mean "adjustments". Potentially micro adjustments alongside other features in order to "balance" gameplay and "make it more strategic".
Just a thought.
Watch them be getting ready to release another tier. I'll cry.
Are you F2P?
You are brilliant. Are you sure you wouldnt consider becoming a mod?
Bite your tongue

No not f2p, probably a low to mid spender, although it depends on who you are talking to what that actually means. My troops are letting me down in battle and I have been over everything and couldnt figure out why. Nerfing makes sense
How do you know there is a drop?
I got beat up by a p10
To me, it would make sense, but I'm also a cynic and assume any sort of strength variance is the result of adjustments
That made me pay attention, I started noticing I was incuring a lot of losses. It's always my troops that is not holding up their end of the fight
Let me rephrase the question. Do you have a record of two rallies/attacks or otherwise where there is a direct comparison of power?
Where you can categorically say, you're weaker
That sounds like math and maybe a science combo, which is just wrong
No, nothing to show empirically that my troops aare actually weaker other than getting beat up by p10's suddenly, losses on rallies im leading and the inability to kick anyone out of anything
Dont' forget, the vehicles have beeen introduced, so that will add another dynamic to players that are attacking you.
Or more simply, they could just have been more intent on improving stats
I would agree with you but this is everything from rr, ad, mm, bunkers, cc, and svs no matter what my rallies wont move anyone anymore
Without seeing stats, its kind of hard to decipher where the issues may be
They have buffed Evelyn, wouldn't be surprised if some other changes were snuck in depending on their planned progress path for 17-18 gen.
On the report where it breaks down stuff my behemoth tempest arms and formation are usually in black, but the troops part these days is always in red
Since I am not a numbers person, I just believed what it shows as where I fell down against the opps
The troop part is troop tier and plasma level
Pow sucks too much, fix it please. Only teams if they are in the same alliance please, there are always a team with 5 players maxed from different alliances, so boring...
Hi chief, as much as teams formed through multiple alliances grants opportunity to expand friendships outside of the alliance itself it can also be unfair.
Are you queuing solo or in a team also?
The matchmaking can always need improvements to add on top of it. Have you brought this up in #šļø±feedback-reporting at all?
I cant play in team with my alliance members because if you go in team you will fight 5 guys maxed from different alliances
So I have to play solo šš»
Understandable. Was just checking up in case you've been finding these solo queuing as well as teams.
It seems there likely isn't anyone close to your team's power that would be searching at the same time as yours so you're put into the deep end.
We can request further features added to prevent this from the only option to play PoW and hope for the best.
Sure sure
This is why detailed patch notes are important. Fixes and optimisations is horrible. If i was to post text only as an example from another games patch notes would that be removed? It would be comparison rather than advertising and shows what a small company of like, 4 people can do for patch notes why can't a multi national like fartplus achieve it?
There are patch notes here #šļø±game_updates message
Although I don't like it when fixes are summarised as "Other minor fixes and improvements."
there is absolutely zero matchmaking in POW, maxed whale teams are matched vs randoms much weaker, it makes no sense at all and people get fed up by it and do not play pow anymore at all. Funny fact about this rewards of ranking are not needed by these whales šš
Because they donāt wanna spend time on writing it all down.
Most likely because it costs time, therefore money
Hi titan, this even can be pretty useful still to obtain the rucksacks, for stamina & speedups. But the fragments, most definitely useless.
If there's any ideas you'd have to have this updated please do let us know in #šļø±feedback-reporting
To add' we did have a mangus version at one point that gave the player "material crate" with a picture of a backpack. It would be nice to have more events like that for higher gen heroes.
Only even where you might get stamina these days for free
Oh that part is cool..just make it a new hero
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yeah⦠honestly I only do it when there are fragments for other heroes in there and cannot be bothered otherwise⦠since you canāt do the rallies alone and can not launch like 5-6 at the same time it also takes a while to complete and I am not very patient
otherwise I would probably go for it as well
the rallies for frags of other heroes did request much more stamina and outcome of frags was poor
Like the Roxy and the other hero rallies took
And awful drop rate for fragmentš
for real
i mean, at least in the hunting the hunter event you are guaranteed the frags in the crate, albeit rarely those we might need in older states.
but yeah, the lurkers really should at least guarantee you frags for the amount of time and stamina you gotta use for them, I agree
They can do new heros in that event soon as it cost as much stamina as infected fiends and beast
Not full notes. And not helpedwhen they chuck out 8 and counting, additional inline updates. Dunno what those all do.
ok, gotta go get some sleep. Thanks for the quick chat! Have a great day/night everyone
Hey cheif, donāt forget to submit your bug reports here: https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1100550374944940102
in the correct format. As for the feed back would you like for me to submit this feedback for you ?
I was able to pull 4m troops out of enlistment in 4 days, getting around 90k duty. That math doesnāt really add up to me.
This is sos how else it would beš
I stopped trying long time ago i just take back what it gives me lol
Top 6 Worst event that available in deepest cave
- Hidden Treasures
- Star Ascension
- AstroWheel
- Journey of Surprise
- Mystery Mania
- Dig em Up

Delete this Bundle
Hey chief, I'd be happy to submit that bug report for you.
If you could provide me with the necessary information, I'll get it typed up.
Evidence: (if any)
Platform: (required)
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Game version no#
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I miss when some of these events at least let us to get the first reward without buy it, at least I could get something, so I understand why you'd want it
If you want, you can submit it in #šļø±feedback-reporting following the format you can find in #šļø±feedback-how-to or I can help you to write this.
If you want help to submit this, let me know, as I'd need some information from you
I don't play any of those pay to play events either ...
Same, I play p2p events only when there's free attempts
For Dig em up, I need check my alts when I still saved unused Shovel without converted it into Skin tickets
I love old Dig em up more than new, I can save some shovels
So never again
Of course I never buy any p2p events, I prefer buying some foods
Next will be either lucky card or lucky coins event to p2pš¤£
If every event is p2p, very high chance F2P quitting
That the way this game is going
I hope lucky cards are not removed from f2p. That would be terrible.
Lucky Cards isnt in Festival tab
Every other event has become one so it might
Festival tabš¤
Stamina is now a monetary value. 200 stamina, $2
The next step is to charge a monthly fee to be able to play
That will be after the eventsš
When there is no f2p left
Or low spenders
Mid spenders might stay for awhile then they quit too
Pay to enter?š¤£
š¤£
Shhhh don't give them ideas. That's something they are probably considering especially as the player base dwindles.

There was a time when I refused to play games that were not free to play then I just spent a couple dollars if I wanted an edge now you can hardly play any with out a second mortgage on the house . A friend used to pay a monthly fee for a game I remember telling her I'm never gonna play a game that wants me to pay to play.... I'm thinking I should look her up and apologize...
That could be fun. Like in line with the other vehicles in terms of stat boosts etc?
It would be funny if April 1st saw an update where we got a submarine added. The heroes would sit around trying to figure out what they're supposed to do with a submarine. On April 2nd we'd get a system sail saying that the developers realized that the submarine was a bad idea.
(You would not actually be able to do literally anything with the submarine)
BUT!!!!!
They would have offered a great bundle to upgrade it before š¤£šš¤£
For me at least i don't mind paying if its an appreciable thing. Another game i have which is non competitive periodically releases dlc. You buy the dlc and you get access to EVERYTHING in the dlc without paying extra. If SOS did that. Like, pay $20 and you got the ability to reach general on up to gen5, and whatever else was released in that window. You could pay extra to get there faster but you'd at least get there. Pay some more to max out the next 3-4 generations. I could kinda see a point in that. But constantly buying and buying for each gen to be competitive is draining, not just for the wallet
I think thatās a great idea. Have you put it in as feedback in the reporting channel?
Sos wont last a year in dlcs way of playing
Way to low revenue. Not intereseting for whales etcetc
And the game overall isnt good
Think of graphics etc
Yes, but I think it would be helpful for the heroes and everything that you can no longer get things to upgrade them for. Not the newer stuff.
So the only way is to keep releasing. They just way to fast which is a issue
Ye true but whats the point having gen 5 6 7 or so when gen 18 out
Like now you got people with angelica selina and all other whoch spend thousands a month (resident evil people) are just joiners
With max ape dino and both suits
Its 100% not a suggestion of any sort. Its just the only way i might spend on a game. Constantly buying bad value bundles is not on the cards
Putting Hidden Treasures top prize under a $500 paywall is stupid af. Especially when almost all rewards before it are useless to most. Wouldnāt it be better if 100 people spent $20-50 for the skin than 1 person in the entire state? Just wondering
Thatās the way it used to be to be..lots of small purchases rather than a few larger ones ..more game play ..more players..then the added collaboration and big purchases went upā¦they liked it and got greedy..
Now itās only big purchases and 0 game play = less players and alot less purchases
The HQ skins were more limited, what bugs me is all the stuff that differentiates joiners, that and of course how easy it is to wipe out a settlement. I don't think they'll change that but I do wish that recovery was more enabled (no enlistment cap, etc)
Feedback? I had one. Let's give more level 7 & 8 mine, people always fighting through the chat because that's not enough and attack each others. 
More than happy to help put this as feedback. Would you like to post it yourself or would you like assistance?
Hey CommanderX, since I didn't hear back from you and I had really all the information I needed, I went ahead an posted that for you. You can upvote it here: #šļø±feedback-reporting message Thanks!
Why only for 2 heroes, why they not add Cris also, some players like me not got enough frags for open some skills 
Thank you

We can forward it if you like
I really need Cris frags for sure
What is your state number ? 63?
Why devs put only last 2 heroes, thatās not fair
Yes
Same question
Okay , i will forward it now , give me 1 minute and you can adjust
Hope you make it
used 50 frags to up Leon's skill because I thought it was ended now to find its carrying on, give us a way to reset that skill so we can at least get to lvl 4
I doubt this would fit in their business plan
I can forward it but i don't think it happened before...
they have a plan??? looks like they are just winging it
its there fault as they said when it ended before they said it was the last chance

5 spins is not good enough
no not bring back Chris, reset the skill on the right which was only used because they said their was no chance of any more leon frags
And they say āto avoid FOMOā. Itās more like incinerating it.
Observation :
Game announcement was clearly saying that the event as long as it finishes we won't have another chance to obtain fragments so players pushed skills instead of leveling up the hero.
Consequence:
People spend their last chances to fix something instead of nothing and lose the items. Now you bring it back and we have to start all over again.
Suggestion :
Give us more than 5 coins and give us an option where we can reset everything once and focus on something else.
Probably Chris license expired earlierš
How that sounds
thats better ty
759?
759 /all
Cool , i will forward it now and upvote it as well.. have the same issue 
Id like to add Feedback on behalf of the states on the verge of getting the new TA Ranges.
Yes please
Dear developers: Thank you for the gashapon coins for whatever you screwed up toda. Do you think, now, you could open the event so I can actually use them?
This is BS⦠they didnāt make enough money from these two so they want to extend it⦠thatās all I can read here⦠if the event ended and collab ended, how are they bringing it back again till 25th??
reboot the game, its there
I am sorry for that , we raised some feedbacks. Please upvote
Please just Update the exisiting TAs to the new Ranges.
If you have Red lethality simply roll a new Red lethality for the existing tas.
Keeping the old TAs as they are will Invalidate a ton of money spent on getting good ones.
4 Red turn into 4 worse than purple stats if they continue that.
Player: The Lion
State: 783
On it
Just close the stupid thing⦠they should take their coins, itās not needed
I think it's good that they open it but we could have better communication at earlier stage and also more available options (like Chris)
maybe not needed for you, it is for some of us
Regarding this event, your voice WILL NEVER be heard so I donāt think any upvote will do anything
You have your heroes maxed??
no where near
Let me disagree. Feedback is a great tool. Imagine we sending lots and lots of feedback. Some might not be priorities because of upvoting. I totally recommend and suggest to upvote the common issues
You f2p of p2p??
small p2p
And how many with the numerous upvotes have changed??
Then itās certainly not needed⦠5 will make no difference, heck 10 will make no difference
Many , you can find more in #āļø±game_information
To add to my co-mod, We have our small winsāŗļø lately the banner button and the march formation format. Those came from feedback āŗļø
Some may need them. Let's respect people's opinions
but i do agree in this case, as in a few other, the feedback system isnt fast enough
Hello Shadow! How are you 
I agree with that but at the moment that's what we should use to forward our feedbacks etc. Unfortunately 
Please donāt be deceived⦠any change is to bring more money⦠we all know. Donāt paint a diff color
Hi Creature, is ok health wise lol, hope you are well
Like my co-mod said , we have our victories. We need to focus on good things not paint everything black because of xyz
Victories??š¤£š¤£š¤£ thatās the problem with the world⦠people are used to bad that when given normal, it seems like a victory.
Just recovered from flu, tbh
glad to hear you are healthy 
Most of what you call āvictoriesā are things that shouldnāt be done. Game created a problem and then fix it and you cal it a victory?? Smh⦠a victory is stating you need something new and the game actually doing it and not trying
well wouldnt say healthy lol but no extra ills
Weāll still keep pushing for feedback as this is our only venue to be properly heard by the devs, til we see the changes we want āŗļø
You gon keep pushing forever⦠good luck thoš
But I hear you, Azayji
#šļø±feedback-reporting message , let me know if it's okay
its a small victory that its open again at all, but more could have been done
Whatās your take in this?
You can change my name to The Lion as thats my IG nickname but other than that its perfectly fine š
Thank you
Keep in mind we are players just like you and we are trying to help. Currently we have the channel #šļø±feedback-reporting and #šļø±bug-reporting for those reasons. I understand and i totally agree with you that for some cases the result is not good enough but we are trying 
well then they closed it with 21 days left, they said no more, so at least we have 14 more chances, remember we all wanted something to fill the gap
Thank you , i ve changed it 
The only reason itās opened itās cause they didnāt reach their target in sales⦠now extended for almost a month⦠they need to reach target and giving you 5 coins is a joke⦠a laugh to your face. If you roll those 5, you wonāt get up to 2 frags
3 fragments tho are enough for a person who posted above to make Chris lvl 4.. It's a small victory for that player if Chris will be available..
which is why i said small, i would have prefered a rerun od the story mode
Anyone who needs 3 frags to make the heroes level 4 is a f2p and the heroes are useless without skill⦠itās still rubbish. You keep justifying it and thereās no way to justify that
the entire event didnt end just the ways to earn stuff
To avoid FOMO, please get these heroes within the given timeframe. Purchase only.
I think these marketing guys might have failed their courses.
Thatās true
Better than nothing
Nope⦠nothing is better than being insulted or prompted to waste your money
You guys know they will do general resonance heroes afterwards. 
Cause thatās what those 5 frags are⦠AN INSULT OR A WAY TO ATTRACT YOU TO SPEND
It's called marketing and they do not force anyone to spend. It's people's decision
lying and misleading is now called marketing?
I said ATTRACT
But they said they will make lucky thing event rewards reset.. means more coins no?
Stahp.
Than the ones they sent
so the FOMO is just a lie, unless they mean that they havent forfiled their contract and risk losing even more money
Thatās what Iāve been sayingā¦
but be grateful for whatever you want to call this
Well, to be fair, it is tho⦠marketing is actually the ability to mislead people into getting your product⦠all those ads we see of products, not entirely true
Cuz you definitely avoid FOMO by buying within a certain timeframe. These guys were laughing while they sent it out for sure.

