📋︱feedback-discussion

[stable cosmos]

I have had it as first flip once but... yeah thats not reliable

[faint flint]

Should be but isn’t. Very rare to pull the main reward in the first 5 cards

And most off the time you have to buy a pack to get it as 2 days of dailies rewards isn’t enough

[astral stratus]

That are contracts, the details are unknown. There were quite some warnings that frags arent obtainable anymore with Jan 4th. So store is the last bit

This collabs are always timely limited

[faint flint]

It’s just strange that the store is still with us for 18 more days with no event left

[astral stratus]

Well, it just means that player have enough time to get from the store what they want as for sure some will do last second again due to "oopsi" moments

[faint flint]

It’s also a lot misleading as people thought there will be more events to get coins and potions from.

[stable cosmos]

Its more likely that they did an awful job and capcom revoked their continued license

[astral stratus]

It was in game published

[torpid gazelle]

Then why set the timer to go over that time frame?

[astral stratus]

To keep the store open and have Player have the chance to buy what they want

[torpid gazelle]

One to two days is enough for that.

[astral stratus]

In the past store closed with end of event and there was a lot unrest because of it. Now they leave it open for a longer time and its still not ok

[torpid gazelle]

And we have no chance to buy anything else because the event is still going on with no events to earn anything for.

[faint flint]

Unless they will release a lot of coin and potion bundles to buy over the next 2 weeks

[astral stratus]

The event was on for 1 month, there were quite a lot chances to gain coins/amberthingys

[torpid gazelle]

I’m pretty sure most players are like me and when we heard the hero’s portion was ending on the 4th we went and spent to maximize those rewards hoping for something new to come after, or events like bio hunt to continue on.

[stable cosmos]

A week i understand. 20 days is a really bizarre number

Even stupider when so many people gained 30 coins after the spin was over...

[faint flint]

Under the license I don’t think we can expect any frags for the RE heroes in the future. So where they are now they stay.

[astral stratus]

Most likely yes

[stable cosmos]

Not to worry. They'll be out of date before the end of feb

[faint flint]

Most likely.

[torpid gazelle]

Most are already outdated, because reaching a usable level was impossible without spending.

[faint flint]

Glad I’m not a spender. Some have maxed Selina and that costs thousands of dollars

20 frags cost $99

[torpid gazelle]

I haven’t spent in almost a year, because devs don’t deserve my hard earned cash. If they start listening to the players(really we’re customers/ workers) more I would spend again.

[faint flint]

Greed took over. It’s sad to say but people always spend to be top of the hill so I can’t see anything changing

[astral stratus]

Well, yeah... new migo means usually new heroes

[vernal moss]

It’s most definitely a long timer just to purchase the additional coins or vials. Since that’s the only way to get the rest now.
Would of been nice to have some annihilation awaits event as a last hurrah or something at least.

With the crate issue that was locked many players have reported it and we’re looking to get something from this being information or exchange options.

Please, if you have any suggestions regarding these ridiculous long timers if there’s anything they should be considering to increase the interaction rate of the event for future ones let us know in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[stable cosmos]

This event could have been all about using the 60 stam explorer missions to find stuff and defeat zombies in a more puzzle related environment. Finding frags etc etc. Instead we got a gacha machine and trap 2.0 which wasn't even RE related the second time around

Oh and we got mobile phone advert as well

[vernal moss]

A horrible money grabbing event isn’t a surprise and I’m sure also the license may hold a number they must obtain.

But more puzzles like how RE is would be nice. Or even Easter eggs to find.

I'd suggest to consider sharing you opinions in #📋︱feedback-reporting and ever if you have the time; puzzle ideas regarding ways to obtain more items and to have a better experience in events such like this.

[tidal apex]

We fought Gundam during second trap. Gundams are very RE related, you never saw them in RE movies or games?

Me neither but I am sure they will appear someday :p

[stable cosmos]

We could also have had something like a wall defence game where zombies like other games i can't name that were made for flash and rhyme with past hand

There was so much available but we got gacha and a bunch of bundles

[tidal apex]

All event they can think of are ones where whole "gameplay" consists of paying lot of $$ and then clicking button that randomizes rewards with rigged rng so main reward is won near the end

[stable cosmos]

I'm not actually against money taking you through an event. Either to speed it up or rank highly. But i don't think generic items should be part of the event for some reason. Nor do i think f2p should be unable to simply complete a prize track

It's like going for a walk and every day you buy a coffee. Except one day the coffee is in a green cup cos its st patricks. No other changes were made

[tidal apex]

To me it just feels funny how "events" like one running now with f1 bolid moving on racetrack have way worse $ to rewards value than normal bundles .. Are there really people who pay 5$ for a chance to get 10 plasma in that event if they land 1?

Those rewards are bad even if you would get best rolls...

[tidal apex]

This is how it should work. Even if event is paid it lets people take part and grab some rewards for free. Paying should help you rank higher easier, not be the only way to get anything :/

Take a look at cursed feeding frenzy for example. It could be normal not-cheating mahjong with no 20 hidden tiles directly below tile on top so you have no idea how big a stack is.

It could be fun relaxing gameplay. There already is stamina system in that event. Why not let people play and win some games for free? Release packs with extra stamina so who wants to pay can pay, play more and rank higher. But people who do not pay would be able to also win some games...

[silk heath]

I agree with that. Feeding Frenzy drives me crazy.

[olive sluice]

Feedback:
Today another fully maxed super spender quit the game, thanks to all the new gambling features, especially Tempest Arms. 💸 💸 💸
He was one of those who were always supportive to everyone, who cared about his joiners, his alliance, and his state. Many kept playing (and spending) because of him. Until now.
He won't be the last one leaving thanks to this crap.
A long time ago this was once a strategy game... now it's a dying casino.

[thorny hornet]

Does anyone know if duty actually accumulates faster if you do not use it? The directions say duty accumulates slower if you have a lot of it, but i remember people saying that in practice the opposite was true.

[tardy night]

That rally buffer bug is a duo killer. Way to kill any hopes of tactical alliance working shartplus 🫡

Keep actively working on CNY gacha though

[stable cosmos]

Duty doesn't work. Not how it says it does anyway. I believe they made some minor changes so it is quicker, and there is research to speed it up but in the main you can only make the duty rate worse. Doing your dailies will provide a boost to your total duty, it has no effect on the rate.

We're pretty sure fup don't know how it works either because no matter how many times they're asked they never say.

[worldly sable]

I have 5m in enlisted, those troops might as well be dead to me 🥲

[wide wraith]

SvS was another disappointment as a punishment the Devs and management should be made to play the game for hours on end live on a stream against maxed players and see how they enjoy it

[unreal lichen]

Our state got matched to a state which had higher MIGO buffs, 32 vs 64 %. It was close but we could have definitely won, had it been the same MIGO.

[wide wraith]

our one was dead after the first 35 minutes

points were got then everyone just bubbled up and went and did something else, the Management and Devs need to look at actual gameplay and not their algorithms, which mean nothing is the real world

[stable cosmos]

Close svs is great fun. Non-close svs is always what you make of it. Which most of the time is just trying to get some points. Selina and angeline REALLY ruin things though

[wide wraith]

the mismatch was so bad even without the pay 2 play heroes

[unreal lichen]

😦

Whoops

[gritty sluice]

GG..
It was fun fight

[unreal lichen]

Haha, it sure was !
Looking forward to a fight again ❤️

The 3 stages were full of adrenaline rushes for 1090 😂

[unreal lichen]

Would you like me to drop a feedback on this ? 🥺

[wide wraith]

no point, they have had loads of feedback on how boring SvS is now, and other feedback is ignored, things are getting worse every week. Managers who never care or dont play the game. Devs who think that algorithms sort everything. they dont realise that results a messed up by whales

[unreal lichen]

[stiff ether]

That really takes time being deleted

[wide wraith]

its amazing how quickly a meme or gif is removed but that isnt

[stiff ether]

Lol I think I’ll give it a try then

[wide wraith]

maybe thats why its not being deleted lol they are all looking at it

[crude stratus]

<@&628563208164081690> ⬆️

[stable cosmos]

Matching will never be fixed. We'd have better luck getting them to admit that than having them fix it

[unreal lichen]

I apologize, there was just a few of us deleting the posts, it was in multiple (almost all) channels. 🥺

[keen narwhal]

when will general resonance fragment comeback?

??

[gritty fiber]

Not sure if it will

You mean the Legendary Resonating Hero Fragment right?

[keen narwhal]

yeah

[keen narwhal]

atleast let us use it in this collaboration hero

[gritty fiber]

It does say “any” resonating hero 😓

Nice feedback post on this has been written, am gonna upvote it.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[keen narwhal]

meh in the first release we can literally use LEGENDARY RESONATING FRAGMENTS ON THEM BUT THEY REMOVED IT.

[gritty sluice]

No way they made it for free

Come on its f+

[gritty fiber]

Yes, as someone said previously, Chris could be achieved with some luck for free through trading for coins /draws together with his explore frags. So that’s likely why they released Ada and Leon together

[warped ruin]

Yes. and they'd rather leave an inactive event here for 20 days, but let's not get something for free that can be used..

[distant gull]

My 1001 cant upgrade Chris too

[tulip flame]

i need 2 more ada frags how to get it???

#sources to achieve points in points events, Throwdown and others:
eg_how to get points if all heroes now limitless, or maxed and 00 points for using legendary hero frags for limitless skills?? why?? i use 70 legendary frags, which is source for points but get 00 points fir it, and it is the only way i can use these frags!
eg_how to get points for hero frags or chief gear if chief is maxed and hero frags for skill upgrades dont count, hero upgrades like before we had limitless is not possible anymore, and all of these items are not possible for recycling. So todays point event i cant achieve any point!

[astral stratus]

For now there's no option to obtain any more frags

[astral stratus]

You can use them on the skills and they count. It has the option for older limitless gens to convert general hero frags to hero specific ones

[dense anvil]

I would like a kingdom of snow and play pigeon in the yard

[dawn otter]

Click

Popup

Click

Popup

Click

Popup

I swear

[astral stratus]

You already made a feedback for that

[dawn otter]

Game spams, I spam

I guess it's allowed then

[dense lance]

It is annoying, but annoying people here won't make it change faster, if you want to make that happen try getting other people in your state and so on to upvote your feedback so it makes it onto the weekly readout

[steel musk]

too much work

just quit

and delete game.. fixed

up vote don't matter

Devs fix / change what they want.. not what players want

if someone told you up vote important, he laugh on you

here an example..

my fav feedback ever.. it show how people dumb when they keep add feedback and vote for it. when they saw that devs didn't listen to this feedback

[gritty sluice]

1k and no response?

[crystal iron]

[gritty sluice]

If I can pin that ss I already did

[steel musk]

they didn't change it as in this feedback yet

[crystal iron]

But they fixed Garrison when he was broken and ofc that fix was worse

[gritty sluice]

[steel musk]

saberlot.. said up vote on feedback report don't matter.. it's up to devs if want change it or not

[crystal iron]

It feels like they are playing this game, not us.

Fix game how they want, add events which they want, and ofc others players: why you so ***

[steel musk]

they fixed MM.. by remove the event. no event = no bug

[gritty sluice]

Logic

[crystal iron]

Better remove only KOTH and PoW

Where no meaning in the process of battle

[terse agate]

I still don’t understand why I am never able to get the base duty rate

[dense lance]

they actually did respond, they added another gen 16 spot but they said they don't think they should, I honestly agree with that one because for the states that skipped from gen 12 to 16 we really need the gen 13-15 heroes in there

I know the states that got to gen 16 naturally won't be thrilled, but we're not really very happy about being skipped over 3 generations just to improve their matching pool

[steel musk]

they could add gen 16 too..
gen 13 - 16
not 13 - 15

[dense lance]

that wasn't what was asked for, though, also the current is actually a bit better due to it being the packs that contain both capsules and the potions, but what that's asking for is literally to take away the 13 to 15 packs with capsules and potions and to replace them with gen 16 capsules

I don't think they did a great job overall, the idea that each gen 16 hero was supposed to replace 1 hero from gen 13 to 15 wasn't very well communicated and it's something I've had to explain to a lot of people from my own state, but I do see what they were trying to do with Ray's and I think it was pretty vital considering the only "compensation" we've been told to expect is cheap bundles for gen 13 to 15 capsules

gen 14 isn't even unlockable for a lot of people in our states due to not having the fragments to locate non-limitless gen 14

[astral stratus]

But that can be solved when opening ticket, in the past CS did send frags out to locate heroes

[tardy night]

What good will it do, they still gotta buy stuff to get the 3 gens at a decent level.

[dense lance]

I think a lot of us don't know that, but I may submit one now if I can navigate the system that's designed not to be easy. I do appreciate the heads up though ❤️

[dense lance]

on my F2P account I was capable of unlocking 1 set of heroes at purple, thanks entirely to Ray's place

[tardy night]

Great, what will one set of purples do?

Send that March out, you're turkey. Don't send it out, you won't win.

[dense lance]

Allow me to defend myself better if I'm attacked, have a prayer at taking some eruptive gas in Azurtane, let me capture a crystal mine, defeat more behemoth intels, there's a lot of things just 1 march can do vs 0 marches

[steel musk]

If whale decided visit you then will get burn with those 3 purple heros

[tardy night]

Clutching at bare essentials there

Might as well say they let you login at their mercy

[steel musk]

depends who attack you..

[dense lance]

if a whale visited my F2P account I'd burn if every single hero from every generation was at general

F2P has to play smarter at such things, of course, but even just having 1 march opens up a lot

[steel musk]

then if less than general.. It's worse

[dense lance]

not really, no, once the defenses are breached and the hospital starts to fill if I'm just sitting there getting zeroed then I'm just sitting there getting zeroed

[tardy night]

Were you around when they gave those skipping hero gens a catch-up system not based on spending?

But based on progress of last gen that people achieved.

[dense lance]

but that suggested change to Ray's Place would replace my 1 good purple march with maybe 1 🤮 march of gen 16, and that's if I can come up with the potions

gen 16 isn't designed to fight together, it's not optimal, the only benefit would be to someone who already has gen 13, 14 and 15 progressed

so they get 3 marches and they also get to murder me in the events I'm now forcibly matched with them in

[tardy night]

Cuz they will pair up 16-17-18

Guess who still suffers

[dense lance]

we'll all go to 17 together, now

[tardy night]

You will. And guess who has had lesser resources to throw on 16?

Once that pairing of 16-18 opens, you are still behind.

[dense lance]

but not as behind

[tardy night]

Unless you pushed your spending further than your monthly budget

[tardy night]

In sos? 20 stat points leaves full rally dead.

[dense lance]

that account only has the second construction slot, so sure it's not 100% F2P but it's pretty close, it's also like 9 months younger than my state

for joiners they shouldn't be sending their best march to join anyways, that's actually something I really like about the new march interface that you can set it up so it doesn't send your best march

the current setup, for those states that we're talking about, lets them put a decent homeguard in and still have older heroes sent out to join rallies

[tardy night]

Right. So which March is anyone in a mid to low alliance sending to win anything in events where 3-6 marches are required

[dense lance]

you do have to throw more people at things, but you really shouldn't be competing against top alliances

[tardy night]

Thankfully sos has a wonderful matchmaking algorithm which does the absolute opposite.

[dense lance]

if the discussion is "F2P need to be able to compete on an equal footing with P2W players" that's a lost cause

[tardy night]

No

[dense lance]

my point is that that change to ray's place that was asked for would leave the people from the gen 12 -> 16 states with nothing, it was bad and that was also their reply

[tardy night]

The discussion is that in the absence of time provided to players to grind for progress, the game has previously provided a system to catch up not reliant on spending alone but on prior growth.

Which they refuse to do for limitless because the affected states don't raise as much of a ruckus

[dense lance]

true, but that's also partially because a lot of people quit

they did also reply to us about the compensation thing

just the reply was "well, we gave you cheap bundles"

not defending them, just saying that in light of the current reality I don't think that that ray's change would have been actually a good thing

maybe they didn't give in because of how much we were complaining about getting the short end of this stick, also

[tardy night]

That's because older states benefit from a vast pool of shallow depth. And since f+ doesn't add more than 30-40 states at once, it's a small group voting or asking for the crap to change.

[dense lance]

Honestly I think it's because they gasped in horror at the idea of giving us something reasonable, like if they'd given us everything needed to raise gen 13 to 15 to just the open purple brain, also the general sentiment that Age of Outreach didn't work

[tardy night]

F+ doesn't give a hoot either way. Win from pushing older states and forcing new ones to spend.

Age of outreach was better than this. By far.

Whoever reached that conclusion was probably looking at the finances. Not at the rate of people quitting.

[dense lance]

much better, yes, and it was something closer to what they should have done

[tardy night]

Wait and see how they leave again. Just one transfer window for the leads to leave.

[dense lance]

amen to that

seriously though it's not that I don't want F2P players from gen 15 to 16 states to get better heroes, but we just needed them to not make that change, on behalf of the gen 12 -> 16 states

[ancient stratus]

😫

koth sucks

[terse agate]

The dumb thing is, I have been raising this issue for 4-5 months now……
They basically already said they didn’t thought of all the consequences upfront….
Now, so much time has passed already, by the time we are gonna benefit from new states entering the matching pool, they most likely WILL add a feature/event to upgrade the skipped gens faster.
Therefore punishing us double.
The missed rewards due to this idiotic choice is conveniently forgotten 😒

[dense lance]

it was a massive screw up, yes, and it would have been easy to fix, for that matter it still is easy to fix, send everyone from the skipped states enough potions and capsules (and fragments) to cover getting through the purple brain or X nodes of the purple brain

it won't un-quit the people who quit, but it'd be something

it's not like we can't use the potions and capsules even if we already maxed literally every hero (let us recycle the capsules)

[terse agate]

Yes, so many lost interest since we couldn’t be competitive anymore

[dense lance]

when the heroes that should have lasted at least 36 weeks suddenly became "lol", yeah, that happens 😦

[ancient stratus]

Is it just me or does auto assign not work in koth?

[dense lance]

it's totally not you, also if literally anyone is manually assigning it screws it up

[ancient stratus]

👎 😒

ever time this game mode is crap

Why not just have it on the PTR server untill it works??

flips table

[dense lance]

(╯°Д°)╯︵/(.□ . )

[ancient stratus]

You cant even press the towns

f this game

[vivid hawk]

that and the fact that everytime you loose a huildiung you have to reallocate, meaning even more need for auto to work. You almost need a player just on building assignment

[crystal iron]

(つ･･)つ

[digital glacier]

Honestly, rays casino should have the token give every possible "limitless" hero there is in the game. Everyone would have the chance to get some strong heroes.

For those super whales who want to have every hero 100%..... Its nearly impossible if the gen 7-12 change came while your state was gen 15. So, devs are even screwing over those players who pay to keep this game running, and the luxurious lifestyles they live 🤣

Value vouchers should be no different. They need to add old heroes back like it was before they decided to do this whole limitless crap.

[kindred plaza]

To be honest I don’t feel like it would have changed much even if you guys had it. Other factors play a part in the outcome for svs. So solely blaming migo buffs is rather deconstructive and unintuitive. I thought it was a reasonable fight. You all had many opportunities that you didn’t take advantage of, so I was surprised. 1090 continued to have the statistical advantage despite our +32% troop bonus buffs. In fact, it would have made it more unfair for 1057 if you had them. An overwhelming number of your leads had very high level behemoths in comparison. I think you guys just need to focus on how to extend your occupancy time in capital.

We have played and won against many states where we were at a disadvantage. 1057’s mentality is that we overcome our weaknesses through strategy and tactical skill.

You won’t improve if you don’t start looking at ways to counter the challenges and losses you face.

[unreal lichen]

I agree to that as well, self improvs are much required, teaming has to be revamped, jumping and changing strategies mid-game has also to be normalized. But different teams (FF and CC) were facing different challenges.

It sure was a good match-up, no doubt regarding that. I just put forward what I thought was troubling the comparatively smaller players. 😇

[tardy night]

Strategy in sos? Lmao

[kindred plaza]

Yes

[tardy night]

Cute. 😂😂

[kindred plaza]

Majority of our players are f2p and from the beginning that’s been our way to win

We just try to be efficient and yes we switch mid game strat easily

[tardy night]

What beginning. 1 year or 8 months?

[kindred plaza]

Not going to wait to lose

1 year

Over a year

[tardy night]

😂

[kindred plaza]

😂

[tardy night]

Okay, good for you I guess.

😂

[kindred plaza]

Yo idk people play and experience diff things

Maybe you’d understand if you were in 1057😂

Part of the strategy is me cussing people out over voice

[tardy night]

Don't need to be anywhere to know that strategy in SoS doesn't exist. But we can rationalize dropping 50k how we want to. That's the fun in fun+

[kindred plaza]

I agree with you on that

I see your point

We do what we can

Battle reports are more confusing than ever and March times cannot be timed properly it’s all fun

Final hero damage 🤠

[thorn axle]

It was strategy until a certain point, then it leaned heavily towards p2w

[kindred plaza]

It’s very heavily p2w

[ancient stratus]

Trollsquad is unobtainable at the moment

[kindred plaza]

It’s gambling imo

It’s turned into a casino

But even at a casino you’re more likely to win randomly 🤣

[digital glacier]

😍
Maddie kills Dr Yamazaki with the gorilla Behemoth. Uses the Dino Behemoth to Burn all the research labs to the ground. Uses the aircraft to kill Becca because she asked Dr Yamazaki to get in the lab to help. She uses the "tanks" to kill sarge (army irony) for rescuing him in the first place, Then maddie kamikaze her helicopter into both behemoths that are sleeping next to the tanks and airplane. Because she was with sarge when they rescued him and it's ashamed of what has become of sos.
And frank, frank eats anyone who tries to rebuild Dr Yamazaki lab or inventions or be creative with inventing new things.

The end

[thorn axle]

I don’t think that’s a wishlist but It was enjoyable to read 😂

[unreal lichen]

Maddie rn

[dense lance]

it comes around too, once you hit the really high spending levels it's back to strategy if the joiners are equal, but the middle is a complete dice roll for whether you'll get matched close enough

[tidal apex]

Yup, it is possible to have better strategy and win when being weaker but only if it was just "slightly" weaker. If you cant kick opponent out of a buildings in rr with double rally then good luck, you not gonna win unless opponents fall asleep :p

[normal peak]

At least in a casino you get free drinks when you spend a lot

[kindred plaza]

You get many perks with it 😂

[normal peak]

Here we get punched in the face by people who spend more

[kindred plaza]

Free night stays after a while

What do u get here a free night of stress over an event

Agreed

Yeah def during RR and alliance battle events I can see that strategy is to no avail when the opponents are significantly stronger. Nothing will help against an overpowered tank. For this SvS, we couldn’t even take over with doubles and ghosts at our FF. No strategy was going to help our situation. But we focus on other areas to compensate.

I do think you can utilize the state’s strength to a reasonable degree. There is a chance to win against big spenders by being flexible and creating power teams. That can also give you an advantage to a degree if you also adapt in-game in a timely manner to continue staying ahead if plan doesn’t work

[dense lance]

I think the bot that adds the little arrows fell asleep

[kindred plaza]

That is to say the situation isn’t one where you are matched with a state that is a complete powerhouse lmaooo

Spenderhouse*

[junior bone]

No KOTH complaints today?🤣🤣

Ooop I just had to scroll up

[kindred plaza]

I have one in 40 mins wait

😂😂😂

[digital glacier]

Should go to bugs channel. Not feedback

[kindred plaza]

I did make a feedback report regarding the times

A while ago

They are too focused on their p2w resonant hero feedback to care tho

Jkjk

[junior bone]

The cat mad a vid and a player had 50 something in attack amplification and our R5 ran into the same thing

When does this tournament end?

Two more matches and it’s over?

[gritty sluice]

Fix koth = remove koth

[strong grove]

This is a joke. How many years will it take? 😅😬🤡

koth should be removed and rr kept

[tardy night]

how does one get this attack amplification in KoTH?

[pine pendant]

We get used to the stupid matchmaking and bugs so it became something normal as part of the game 😂 instead of challenging the two alliances that are double ours I spent most of the time trying to find advance button on small buildings 🙈 can't believe that they sent MM to PTR and left this one

[junior bone]

Wtf 🤣🤣🤣

[tardy night]

f+ motto : the fun shall continue until morale improves

[junior bone]

Our matchings have been good so far but In two weeks I think that will come to a end 🤣🤣

[frigid vault]

Not the first one I see with high attack amplification but these were around 30-40%, they definitely f.up something with that

[tardy night]

the entire opposing side had it

ranging from 65 to 110

apart from that one

[pine pendant]

Yeah, FKG and TMT waiting for you soon or later lol

[graceful steppe]

THIS HIDDEN TRESURE EVENT N JOURNY OF SUPRISE YOU NEED AT LAST GIVE ONE FREE SPIN FOR FREE PLAYER NOT OLNY FROM BUNDLE i THINK EVRY BODY WILL AGREE SAME

[pine pendant]

Probably the tanks, they stuck up

[tardy night]

not from tanks. this happened back in oct too

[junior bone]

It has to be a bug

[tardy night]

oct match

[frigid vault]

I wonder if it's a state thing, some states have it and some don't but im not checking reports in the middle of koh and they still haven't fixed it so we can see reports after the event is over, I also do look on showdown so I'm not sure if I had any battle like that

[junior bone]

Wait nvm two diff reports

Yeah it’s two diff reports

Scratch what I said

[frigid vault]

Someone shared in a different server a report with 3 Nikola against 2 Nikola and Selina

[strong grove]

Bug today

[pine pendant]

I got a bug in SvS with tempest arms, it showed wrong ones but fortunately it's just a visual bug

[strong grove]

Tired of talking about this

[junior bone]

Does anyone know what will happen now without mm?

Will we just have Path to water?

[strong grove]

Even the double rally couldn't defeat him. This is doubtful

[pine pendant]

They pretend to test it in PTR then bring a better version to live server. There are two options: they will bring the same saying it was improved or we will never see it again, I'll go for first option

[strong grove]

Ptr lol 😂

[pine pendant]

You have screenshot with hero skills?

[pine pendant]

I mean the one where you see the kills and protected of each hero

Chloe isn't good for limitless though better to use the hero directly

[strong grove]

Gen 6

[dense lance]

click the magnifying glass (like where it says behemoth skills), then show the different tabs in there, the behemoths, heroes, etc. it makes it make more sense

[pine pendant]

I bet that his Leon has 4 skills

[strong grove]

Eagle full max

[pine pendant]

This is what I mean with 4 skills. The extra skill can make big difference.

[storm solstice]

At Gen6 they can't unlock Limitless special reso skill.

I bet it's TA skill that killed ya

[strong grove]

Gen 6

[storm solstice]

Still, what skills your TAs has been on rally lead and what's on opponent

[kindred plaza]

this hidden treasure event is the most trash i've seen so far

it's like "receive trash but spend over $100 for 1 deco"

[still blade]

Hello if you can think of a way to improve Hidden Treasure event I would suggest filling out feedback here #📋︱feedback-reporting using the format listed here #📋︱feedback-how-to

If you need any assistance with it let me know.

[patent olive]

I agree

[patent olive]

I already did like suggested solution to add at least Treasure Compass Essence from daily rewards, 3x can fuse into 1 Treasure Compass

[patent olive]

I agree with you

[still blade]

That's great to hear and good idea. I will look for your feedback and post here for others to update.

[patent olive]

I have good ideas for each event P2P

1. Hidden Treasures.

Add at least 1 Treasure Compass Essence in 325 Crate, 3 Treasure Compass Essences can fuse into 1 Treasure Compass

2. Star Ascension

Give at least 1 Stellar Fragments in 325 or 1000 Biocaps in shop so F2P have a chance to play 1x each stage

3. Journey to Surprise

Replace 99 Diamonds currency and make it 1000 Biocaps to get 5 Jerry Cans

[still blade]

Is this the one you were discussing with me?

[tidal apex]

Journey to surprise is just awfull. Pay to roll 2x 1 and win 10 plasma 🤣

[mighty gorge]

I think its one of the best ever thought out developer features ever

Mainly because its probably the only thing not bugged in some way 😂

[tidal apex]

Koth was almost okay for me today :p had to go to settlement screen and back to koth like 10 times during the game to reset all stuff it displays on map because there were so many ghost marches that clicking buildings was becoming impossible

[molten comet]

I am sorry, i got the frames with 1 try.. just lucky

On the other hand i can’t say the same about KoH

[still blade]

Here is Bocchi's feedback on events such as Hidden Treasure, Journey to surprise and Star Ascencion for anyone who wants to upvote it. Thanks all.

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[patent olive]

[stable cosmos]

Just make them all bundles and stop pretending they're events. Don't want to see them.

[candid crag]

Can MOD here make a request to dev. Just to do some continuous improvements for RR / KOTH event.. for example increase the members registration participants capacity from 30 players to 50 players per legion? Hope it can helps to gain more active players to this game. Thanks

[quasi pewter]

Hey, that’s a good suggestion. You can post it in #📋︱feedback-reporting channel or I can post it there for you for upvoting?

[candid crag]

Yeah post it for me

[sand basalt]

Hi Ruddlie!

[candid crag]

Hi

[sand basalt]

I’ll submit it for you or my great and lovely Co-Mod can do too, just let me write something and make you check

wait some minutes

[candid crag]

Alright

[winter canyon]

From the ss it looks like the right side wrecked the left side

[winter canyon]

You forgot Feeding Frenzy😅

[astral stratus]

Nope, left side had one skill more active
Thats that the topic was about

Not who smashed who

[stable cosmos]

50 wpuld split into 2 legions nicely but the liklihood of having 100 people available at the same time is low. You'd be better heading to 4 legions of 25 That splits 100 alliance members and gives everyone in an alliance a shot at playing. The only problem remains the game matching everyone at 1400. But with 4 legions you could set 4 time slots, 1 per legion and people join the one that works best for them

[patent olive]

F2P chance success is 0,01% I know 1x free items doesnt enough, need at least 5x to complete it

[winter canyon]

The extra hero skill makes you stronger for sure, and in some cases can make you win a battle you otherwise would've lost... but it's hard to say without considering other features like behemoth, tempest arms, stats etc.

[winter canyon]

Not even that. It's 0

Don't know a single F2P who could beat the 2nd level of feeding frenzy

[nova jetty]

This is an awesome suggestion! Could you please add it to #📋︱feedback-reporting This maybe the best suggestion I have heard about legions.

[stable cosmos]

No because they won't do it as its fair and makes sense. They only do negative stuff.

[stable cosmos]

Its not possible. At times, the field wil readjust to make sure you lose. Its all shuffled right? And should live client side, no need to contact home or anything to find out what flips next? Then why does my tile select sometimes freeze? Its readjusting what was below

[digital glacier]

🙈 I really hate this idea. All the lag there is in this game. Especially during KOH, increase from 90 to 150,omg could you imagine how much more lag there will be in the entire game during the KOH hours 🤦 . I wish there were 4 legions of 25 participants with more time slots as an availability.

What cyan said pretty much 🤣

[mighty gorge]

That also assumes every alliance has 100 participants. Our KotH today was 17 people in Legion 1 and 13 in Legion 2

[stable cosmos]

You wouldn't need to fill all 4

[digital glacier]

Rr supposedly only used the top 25 registrants for calculating the rr score.
So, why not make it 4 legions of 25 then.

[stable cosmos]

And 17 and 13 wouldn't really change things

[mighty gorge]

My point is that the suggestion is moot for a lot of older dead states

[digital glacier]

I get that, but with migo, you play or you're using tokens to complete the task.

[stable cosmos]

But it does resolve, if they cement time slots etc the ability for more people to play for migo

[digital glacier]

4 legions of 25. It would be up to the old states in those alliances to use 1 or 2 or 3 or all 4 of them. That's their strategy decision.

[mighty gorge]

Time slots is another problem with their idiotic fixed periods and RNG time selection

I remember a time when I could fix RR every week at the same times

[stable cosmos]

Legion1: 0900
Legion2: 1200
Legion3: 1400
Legion4: 1800

Ignore weird strength stuff like legion 1 should be your strongest and go for the best time slot

[digital glacier]

Sleeping
Sleeping
Sleeping
Awake.
🤣

Guess I'm gonna be legion 4.

[mighty gorge]

It's already proven the current way they do it doesn't work. We use both legions in an attempt to make times more amenable for some zones

But it hurts us overall

[stable cosmos]

No i mean those would be THE times. There is no selecting them. You select your legion and have that time slot

[mighty gorge]

It's ok, i just realised

[stable cosmos]

Wanna fight at 1800, join legion4

[mighty gorge]

That still is likely to dilute players

[stable cosmos]

It does now

In a way its worse now cos people want to sign up then the game is 3am

[digital glacier]

KOH summit is a 9 team based potential matchup for the first fight of the week.
They need to have a voting day for time slot selection
Say the slots are 0.4.8.12.16.20.
Pick 4
After 24 hours
Remove the time slot with the least votes.
Then resume vote for 24 hours.
Reducing the vote amount to 1 less than the time slot availability
Then final time slot is decided. Simple.

You then know the fight time ahead of time. And can register players accordingly.

[mighty gorge]

I really hate this guess a time any time of the three available....oh and btw please commit to them all even though you might not be able to

[stable cosmos]

That would work as a selection method too. But the game would have to adhere to it rather than now where its choose from 4, pick 123, then get informed you're playing 4 which you never chose

[digital glacier]

I'm guessing here but how I think sos maybe does time selection.
Alliance 1.
18 - 1st vote. (5 points)
12 - 2nd vote. (4 points)
Alliance 2.
3 - 1st vote. (5 points)
18- 2nd vote. (4 points
Alliance 3
6 - 1st vote (5 points)
20 - 2nd vote (4 points)

18utc = 9
3utc = 5
6utc = 5
20utc = 4
12utc = 4

Result. Fight time 18 UTC 🤣

Or. Highest tier ranked leaderboard alliance gets the time they choose first 🤣

Who tf knows. It's sos.

Which goose crossed the finish line first. 12,16,18,20 🤣

[stable cosmos]

People have reported selecting only 3 of the times as a bloc and getting the 4th though. Pretty sure its to throw someone to the whales

[patent olive]

I saw on Youtube, some F2P can beat it after tryharding Feeding Frenzy too many times

[woven spire]

Link? Thats.impossibpe

[patent olive]

I forgot to save link, and videos gone on my history 😐

[stable cosmos]

Only way you're winning is buying removals.

This is as far i think as I've ever got and the game is a railroad at this point

[patent olive]

I tried in PTR and only beating it buying $5 packs, really disgusting on this event

For F2P chance is lowest one, 0,0001%

[stable cosmos]

The game readjusts to make sure you lose. Have to buy to complete

[patent olive]

There are lowest chance to F2W
F2W (Free to Win)

1. Feeding Frenzy 0,0001%

Wasting time from Monday to Friday just playing feeding frenzy again and again until you can beat and chance is still 0,001%

[silent tree]

This is true, I dont see any other way of winning besides buying the bundles

[olive sluice]

I saw that video too. It existed. But I can't find it now. Maybe removed

Mods: there's a feedback without voting buttons

[digital glacier]

So. What's migo throwdown points needed for the levels now?
It clearly changed for the better for expert level

[loud condor]

Same as before

Ah, mistake. Migo require 7500 for champion level.
TD still wants 15k for solo last mile

[stable cosmos]

TD overall still bad, its just back where it was for migo which is something.

[digital glacier]

Well, at least the migo scoring is back to normal.

So, there's that, but then again, this might be a bug. 🤣 It's changed every throwdown for the entire season 🤣

[stable cosmos]

They'd better not change it 1 day in... they have a tendency to do that sort of thing

[warped ruin]

why the mercenary influence removed from recycling center? LOL

[tardy night]

Cuz throwdown has a task for it

No easy points

[unreal lichen]

I am kinda relieved that TD is back to 7.5k points in MIGO

It's still achievable, even if that's a struggle, I legit crawl to that score 🤣

[unreal lichen]

I really hope it's not the case

[unreal lichen]

Um, do you mean, from the inventory recycling ?

[stable cosmos]

Same thing. And yes any time an item is worth points in throwdown or sotf they block recycling of it

[unreal lichen]

I see. This has happened previously as well ?

Would you mind if I draft a feedback report for this ? 😇

[stable cosmos]

They do it n purpose. Its a game mechanic. Its not a very nice mechanic but its intentional and planned. No recycling certain items for points

[unreal lichen]

I'm not maxed out yet, that's why I have not noticed this yet

[astral stratus]

last TD was so amazing, recycled all red hats on day one, finished TD for the entire wekk. was the first i checked this morning

[frozen heron]

@molten comet

[molten comet]

Hey

[frozen heron]

Thanks , its quite remarkable how a team who produced the fun and addictive RR event, roll out such a succession of poor to awful ones subsequently. I

[molten comet]

That's why we have this channel so we discuss all the issues in the game and forward our feedback to devs

[frozen heron]

I get the challenge of rolling out a globally reliable application, what the users are saying which i guess im only repeating is that its surely , surely its time for action on the feedback about the user experience from the whole community. whether for ptw or ftp.
with the new event release schedules, poor concepts, and ill thought out devlogic its driving players away. Down to 8 active players, few farmers, 6 bill whales zeroing them for rss (yes they should shield during svs) means they’re quitting too

[mighty gorge]

**Long Post Warning **

There where 74 Feedback entries from 01/01/24 until the end of day on 06/10/24. Out of all of those, only 10 make it into the Top 10. This is by all accounts is a slow month and I would has at a guess due to the holidays and less people being around, so I would surmise that in most cases this is generally higher. This is also only the feedback gathered on this platform alone, not on other platforms.

Its not often I'm over critical of the feedback team, but when only 13.5% (+ or - per month) of all feedback is cherry picked to go into the "Top 10", that pretty much tells you that the feedback system itself is ineffective To also quantify my point over things being cherry picked. Feedback posts in DC are linear, they are only mostly visible at a point in time, so some will attract more attention than others by simple virtue of the fact of how many people are online, who is in that channel, who reads back etc.

Then, extrapolate that out and look at WHAT feedback makes it into that same Top 10, some are even close to being the same. Then, roll that forward, and see how many of those repeat, or have repeated over the last year or even carry forward. The %'s are very small. What is more important is ~~a ** high percentage of feedback isn't' forwarded**, and ~~ what feedback is forwarded, is subject to Developer ignorance or decision as to whether they can be bothered.

Some of the senior moderation team will have you believe that feedback works, they will also try to attempt to say that there have been changes, but when you look at those changes, the vast majority are around things that shouldn't have needed the player base to feed back on in the first place.

TLDR; The feedback mechanism isn't effective, and ultimately, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

[peak apex]

All feedback is forwarded

[mighty gorge]

Then why have a Top 10 to vote on?

[peak apex]

The top 10 is what’s most popular at that time

[mighty gorge]

Then why do it?

In actual fact, its again not effective. Thats a double vote?

[unreal lichen]

Moaning Monday 🙈

[mighty gorge]

Yep, wrong side of the bed day haha

[peak apex]

Well we can stop posting top 10 if that’s the general consensus but players raised concerns in the past that they wanted to know what was most popular

[unreal lichen]

I come here to feel better in all fairness

I haven’t come up with a moan of my own yet today but no doubt my players will give me one

[peak apex]

Would ease mods workload each week having to trawl through everyone’s reactions/ posts etc

[mighty gorge]

All I'm saying is that the illusion it presents, or at least to me is that the Top 10 is what makes it to the developer team

And if it was me, I would simply refer back to the month at hand, rather than re-hashing the same feedback

[peak apex]

No, ALL feedback gets logged - the top ten is the most voted on etc

[unreal lichen]

Awww maybe a name change to 10 most upvoted then

[peak apex]

I can take a look and see if we can edit

[mighty gorge]

My other points though still stand, and the same points I've made previous about HOW feedback is collected.

[unreal lichen]

Or your most upvoted peeves of the week 🤣

[mighty gorge]

Definitely this lol

[peak apex]

agreed

[mighty gorge]

The "How unhappy am I with the game today reporting"

[unreal lichen]

If it can make people smile then I’m all for it

Top 10 peeves of the week

Everyone walks off happier job done

[mighty gorge]

I'm never happy 😛

[unreal lichen]

With a vote button

[stable cosmos]

I want dev feedback on feedback. They need to address the top 10 even if they get everything

[peak apex]

I think this crosses over with bugs too tbh

[unreal lichen]

Yes a feedback on that would show they were listening I agree

[peak apex]

we all do 😅

[stable cosmos]

As I've said before. No is fine. Its an answer. Its not an answer we like but its better than ghosting

[unreal lichen]

Well I have a name for that too but it would need a filter 🤣

[peak apex]

family friendly server…

[unreal lichen]

Exactly and it’s not so 🤐

😇

[stable cosmos]

🤬 this is the closest i think i can get to swearing without breaking rules. Even though its easy enough to beat the stupid bot

Still. Dev feedback plz. Don't care how we get it, just something.

[mighty gorge]

Trust me, trying to type sometimes without using profanity, for someone not very always family friendly is hard work 😂

[peak apex]

I’m not sure if you were here before we started the whole top 10 thing? Anywhos, mods intentions were pushing to have responses from devs on at least the top 10 - the first go around we got some small response but mostly the response we get is via the Becca updates - we do still push and push tho

[stable cosmos]

I've now had 8000 bios given to me for in game feedback, so obviously theres something in whats being said we just have no idea wtf is being done

[stable cosmos]

The becca updates are generally TERRIBLE and address zero feedback at all. We get junk like "tactical emotes" and "faster internet cos we let you turn off these things but not the banners you want removed"

I mean i appreciate the option, but it doesn't turn off banners, specifically TA ones so its pretty pointless

[unreal lichen]

They can actually be quite patronising and demeaning to read like talking to toddlers

[mighty gorge]

Personally, I think your jobs could be made infintely easier if you didn't have to 'collate'. Someone in FP should be filtering (language translations, what feedback means in reality etc) and then having a visible audit log showing responses. My own view as I keep saying is that the feedback itself should be via a form, logged to a back end spreadsheet/table (or however you want it to take place, even SQLDB) and its a link to see that content. That way nothing gets lost, but it can have status fields. Its perfectly doable, and I'm sorry to say If I hear another time about how its being looked at, i'll scream 😂

[peak apex]

I get you, at least it’s some kind of feedback - previously we had zero, nada , zilch. I have noticed in my time the teeny changes they’ve made based on community feedback, it’s never to the scale we want or suggest tho

[gritty sluice]

So that turn off option, What is turned off from the option?

The banners still there tho

[peak apex]

It used to be done via bot form it didn’t work so well

[stable cosmos]

It turns off the troops returned, rally launched etc, those ones

[mighty gorge]

Yeah, bot forms are terrible. I'm talking about actual intuitive defined fields for capture.

[peak apex]

it’s being looked at

[mighty gorge]

At this point, even Survey Monkey would be better lol

[stable cosmos]

They used to do those

[peak apex]

I pinky swear I’m not trying to troll (maybe little bit) but we are working on a few things

[unreal lichen]

You are responding you aren’t being a troll 🤗

I might be trolling but I’m avoiding game

[stable cosmos]

The last few have mostly been them stroking their own ego though. Iirc the last one was "what do you think of the sos story"

[peak apex]

Shhhh don’t ruin my image

[unreal lichen]

Yes Jemma you are a big bad troll keep up the good trolling

[mighty gorge]

One of the SLMods is a Developer. Please get someone that has technical knowledge to have oversight. I dont' mean that disrespectfully, but these things can't be just thrown together. Yes the user experience needs to be right, but it also needs a modicum of actual technical expertise.

[peak apex]

And I’m tall and zero all

[stable cosmos]

I thought the last story was story_board_link_sarge_talk_rusty_pt_03

[peak apex]

Uhhhh that’s the first I’ve heard

[unreal lichen]

I’m sure if mods could hop states and zero people they would 🤣

[peak apex]

[unreal lichen]

🤣

[stable cosmos]

Those 6 troops you have must be very tough

[unreal lichen]

You don’t need troops just a monkey or tank these days

[peak apex]

It’s all about the magic t1

[stable cosmos]

I assume by developer you meant "in a competent environment" rather than a funplus employee

[mighty gorge]

Azaya has the 'Active Developer' tag from discord. You can only get this if you are an actual developer on the platform and are part of their developer portal.

[peak apex]

Snap isn’t a developer 😅

We do have someone who’s super awesome with all the smart stuff we are working with tho, so I’m not gonna say the phrase you love, but yeah.. that

[mighty gorge]

Then, I would question how she managed without developing anything getting the "Active Developer Badge"

[peak apex]

I dunno the ins n outs of it, but I reckon with how many things I break on a daily basis I could prob be a fp dev

[stable cosmos]

A broken stick could probably be an fp dev

[mighty gorge]

I had my suspicions

[peak apex]

it extends to bones too, all the bones I’ve broken have been in the most random ways…. Helpful tip - jumping off something very high with an umbrella doesn’t work like the Mary poppins movies

[mighty gorge]

Riding on the roof of a car and sliding off does that too 🙈

[peak apex]

I did a skydive once, broke a couple ribs

[mighty gorge]

Anyway, I need to go back to getting out on the right side of the bed 😛

or more coffee..

[stable cosmos]

I have work tomorrow again. Shouldn't stay up past midnight...

[mighty gorge]

I'm working cough My first meeting of the day in 45 minutes. Meh.

ironically, about creating a data generation, input and collection tool lol

[thorn axle]

I feel like you are very prepared for that meeting

[mighty gorge]

I wish I was, sadly this is 'users' doing 'user' things as "Shadow IT"

[tardy night]

They got discord scrapers that can download the entire server if they need to. 🤷🏽‍♂️

And it takes one simple search to find them if they don't know how it's done lol

[mighty gorge]

Personally, discord creates more problems that it solves.

It should be off tool, IMHO

[thorn axle]

I still have faith in you

[mighty gorge]

I usually just get annoyed and say No. LMAO

[stable cosmos]

Oh, wonderful. Been there, still there in fact. Yes we're a little slow. Its so we do things securely and give you a stable system that doesn't expose you to the world

[mighty gorge]

Amongst the myriad of other stupidities, I'm constantly fighting against user ignorance of the 450+ unmanaged access databases they've generated over the course of 15 years holding god knows what data. I've lost count at how many times I've tried to quash these or get them migrated to something useful.

[stable cosmos]

Woo access. It runs everything, except when its cobol

[mighty gorge]

They claim its 'Business Process' workarounds, so senior leadership at the director level just keep accepting the risk

Makes our roles as Architects infinitely more difficult

[stable cosmos]

I always wish that "accepting the risk" meant that when the risk actually happened the person that accepted either has to fix it or gets sacked

[mighty gorge]

But its OK. we have a "Risk Database" - Yes, that place people can raise risks and then subsequently forget about them 🙄

[stable cosmos]

Ah we have that too. Its pretty useless

[tidal apex]

Feedback is effective! It's not like there were already 999 feedbacks about wanting updated bunker/FF/infected fiend and intel rewards and they totaly ignored all of them or it takes them years to think of what new rewards could be 🤣

[vale yoke]

I still have ALL of that feedback, even the irrelevant anniversary festival stuff (because it could be used to guide all festival implementation). Bunker/Faci rewards are absolutely on there

We've had extensive conversations in the past about how outdated and paltry the rewards are, despite state age, and how they need updating in order to maintain engagement in the events. Being that they're weekly, we can't be getting the same stuff which was acceptable when we were all HQ30s.

[tidal apex]

Yup, sad thing is that it is one of the things that should not even need any feedback to be acted upon... They should be aware themselves how unneded some of the rewards are. Hero badges are still in rewards when we do not need them for years now

[mighty gorge]

That would imply that they have an actual roadmap for feature development 😂

There are basic, fundamental development activities that should be repeatable and interative

• Add new heroes, update all the stores to include last gen and so on.
• Add new resources, update all the other resources so they offer the same generational rewards

Things should scale, as the game scales

[vale yoke]

Even when we did need them, the level of abundance made them unnecessary very quickly. The devs can't seem to decide what is necessary and therefore highly sought (logically would make the item in question more rare and difficult to attain, meaning players would be required to at least participate in certain events for base rewards), and what is handed out like candy (those items should always be included in Recycling, or perhaps have an event once monthly called Clean Sweep where people can clear out old things and exchange them for things like stamina, speeds, and bios).

[tidal apex]

They even fail at such a basic tasks like when adding new feature prepare reliable way for players to earn upgrade materials for it :p it took them pretty long to add tanks stuff to dreadbeasts

[vale yoke]

Mind y'all I'm half awake, so take what I say with some salt

[mighty gorge]

Please Sir, can I have some more...

[vale yoke]

Lmao I've been doing the rush on explores every TD week and still haven't gotten under 11k baguettes

I can't rush any harder

[grim steppe]

Hello! You can use all in fast explore mode😊 just a lot tap tap

[tidal apex]

I am on 50k, rewards for explores are so bad that it is not even worth clicking it 😒

[vale yoke]

Lmao right!!!

[vagrant parrot]

he obviously knows it 😄

[astral stratus]

Want my 179k?

[vale yoke]

Laly, I'll trade you your bread for my tomatoes 🤣

[mighty gorge]

Its like the Migo event for the tree. I have more cogs than I can shake a stick at, but gas canisters...pffft.

[astral stratus]

Deal

[mighty gorge]

More cogs please, thankyou!

I'm not sure if they as yet fully understand the word "Balance"

[vale yoke]

128M in warehouse, this is what's open for restock, and then about 12k each of dedicated supply crates (not including ones where you select your desired resource).

You sure??

[mighty gorge]

Just think. I bought my tomatoes 😂

Well, OK, not all of them. I stole a lot 😏

Some what others bought 🙈

[vale yoke]

Lol some of mine were "liberated from hostile regimes" as well.

Sometimes they're a tax for making me hit people lol I never hit people, so it's deserved.

[astral stratus]

I've about 200k unopened rss crates, i take them all

[vale yoke]

Idk how we'll get this trade sorted, Laly, considering we're just over ten states apart with no merge in sight

[mighty gorge]

I'm trying to replicate the UK position on the residential/council tax. Its based on the number of Plasma Stars. The more stars you have, the more tax you pay.

[vale yoke]

Cerberus, I'll bet you can spot a council house in debt in game from 100 yards. "I'll also need next month as a good faith gesture"

[mighty gorge]

I'm sure I'm not the only one that uses the HQ Skin and associated number of glitzy settlement effects as a measure of 'strength'

[vale yoke]

[mighty gorge]

all those without constitute council house lol

[vale yoke]

There's a reason I usually use old skins and outdated frames lol

"oh hahaha look at this, she's still using stuff from 2022." Yup, sure am.

[mighty gorge]

I have no 'glitz' 🙈

[vale yoke]

Princess Cerbie has a pwetty wainbow tho

Are there glitter farts?

[mighty gorge]

They expired...

[vale yoke]

Will simp for glitter farts

Boo hiss

[vale yoke]

I don't even know what I'm using. I think I did activate and apply Christmas, so that's gonna change. Maybe... Hmmm ... Now I gotta see what I've got

[worn pewter]

I have multiple of the sticker crate just sitting in bag

Can we update that

[mighty gorge]

I went full christmas, even coloured my 'Jack the Ripper' hat red, just to be festive 😆

[worn pewter]

Oh and maybe update bunker rewards

[mighty gorge]

Let it not be known that I'm not Christmas Inclusive, even as an RSS stealing glitter bug

Today...

Damn they are big, oops

[vale yoke]

There. Now I'm feeling delightfully outdated and old.

[patent olive]

💀

[gritty sluice]

When u know there is state 2500 and u are in state 250,
Jeez u old asf

[charred swift]

No, No, No - this is a useful feature in svs and playing events like trap. As has been said before this is the result of feedback being given incorrectly. We don’t want banners and pop ups during RR. We don’t care if people beat plague zone. I dont care if people got a 20 million tempest arm that can destroy every troop in a rally. They have provided the wrong solution to the problem. Just give us the ability to toggle on and off the pop ups that we want.

[north moss]

Hi there!
That's a good idea.

Have you tried to submit your feedback in #📋︱feedback-reporting with the format that it's been posted in #📋︱feedback-how-to ?

[north moss]

Hi.
Have you updated your game to the latest version?

[vernal moss]

Hi deku, you’re right. Many of us hold multiple “spares” of these crates, which it would be nice to exchange for others. Some unfortunately would be behind paywalls like feeding frenzy but it would most definitely be nice to get rid of these extras.
If you have any suggestions on what you think would be a good exchange for them, please let us know in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[vernal moss]

Bunker rewards have been a hot topic for a while. There’s definitely some demand for these rewards to be updated.
Which items do you think would be better to be removed from the list and replaced with which items, keeping in mind they don’t like to give us much so would need to keep in mind the quantity of the rewards 🙈

Again, this would be a great addition in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[mighty gorge]

That's a good idea? 🤔 😂

☕ ☕ ☕

[mighty gorge]

Do you have any idea how many times this has been fed back in the last 2+ years? I've lost count.

[strong grove]

Matchmaking 😖😫

[mighty gorge]

Yes, but Nolan occupied F2...😂

[strong grove]

Only 1

[mighty gorge]

Eyes on the prize, eyes on the prize 😆

[strong grove]

Not everything you see is real, Watson 🙈

[mighty gorge]

I'm actually not sure what you're showing in the SS tbh. Outside of a red G7 troll squad hero and someone with twice your BP.

You stated 'matchmaking', but matchmaking for and with what?

[strong grove]

BP, behemoth.......see more

[mighty gorge]

There is nothing to see...

I still don't get the point you're making

You showed a half cut SS of some heroes is all

[strong grove]

Whale vs ant

[mighty gorge]

What whale?

[strong grove]

He all max

There are whales in the whole group

It doesn't make sense. I expect only the 10 match bonus

[mighty gorge]

It may not make sense, but all you've done is show an SS with G7 Troll Squad and someone that is 70m BP higher than you (which isn't actually alot at all)

You've not shown any stats, or behemoth level, or anything else of any substance

[strong grove]

Because this poor matchmaking

[strong grove]

I didn't take a screenshot of it. Even if presented, I will not get relief

Despite frequent complaints, nothing has changed

[tidal apex]

PoW matching is as bad as ever. Good to see they always try to match strong teams v random sacrifices instead of making them fight one another

[mighty gorge]

Ohh, its PoW. Thankyou Shirosei.

That was hard work.

I guess they got beat, and he was complaining that the other team where stronger

[tidal apex]

PoW matching will not change, it works as intended. They are able to make fairly even teams IF they want to. Problem is they do not intend to make it fair. It keeps feeding free wins to whale teams

[mighty gorge]

I don't know the other players on that team of his, but given he didn't present any stats, and showed a random SS of a single person without any context, its kind hard to tell. I also wouldn't consider that player a whale from what I can see

But I agree with your sentiment over the changes

[tidal apex]

Oh I do not need to look at his opponents, I just played 2 teams with 5 Angelica and more than 1 Selina in them :p

[mighty gorge]

I personally, never had issues with PoW

[tidal apex]

I am sometimes getting nice matches but whenever teams are involved it is just sad time...

Basically if it is 10 random people it is able to make decent match sometimes.

[mighty gorge]

Then again, PoW, just like Survival Royale is another time consuming waste of effort.

It takes too long and has now got boring as hell

People don't want to spend hours at a time doing things on these events, they want to login, do some quick blasts at things, get what they need and log off

But FP seem to think they are some kind of major games developer

[tidal apex]

PoW should have different way to give currency to players. It should not require you to play 60-100 games....

[mighty gorge]

Exactly

[tidal apex]

1 maybe 2 games per day would be fine

Instead it needs you to play 2-3h each day 🤣

At least I need that much if I want to once again climb to diamond

[mighty gorge]

The effort isn't worth the reward in my opinion.

I'll just stick in iron or bronze lol

[timid ridge]

Hi there! Would you like to submit feedback about this?

[digital glacier]

Can we please get price adjustments in all the stores. It's tediously annoying trying to decipher what item in what store has the best value

[timid ridge]

It's true POW and Survival Royale consume some time. I myself have like 6 Survival Royale tickets saved for when I have the time to play them, at least you don't miss the chances.

[timid ridge]

I find the best value in Diamon store, not directly through Google but via Funplus. They usually have discounts too

or do you mean event stores?

sorry for the misunderstanding

would you like me to submit this feedback for you?

[strong grove]

Not working 😬

[strong grove]

Because you a big whale

[strong grove]

😢

[thorn axle]

If you add the titles Observation, consequence and suggested solution that would be great

What is your state I want to submit the longer one you did

As you wish

[strong grove]

Keeping only one store

😬

[thorn axle]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[strong grove]

Another joke

crystal, fragment .Completion capsules

[ember mantle]

Hi y'all, just checking the channels. Does anyone need anything done with feedback?

Carry on with the math 🤢

I have a rule I try to play by, if I can earn it free dont use rewards to buy it

Your way has math though! 😭

Besides I pay attention to you, I just try to wear blinders on the math stuff before my headache kicks in and bottom line it

You're my calculator and you really dont wanna see me with a calculator

[winter canyon]

First thing dev should learn is that 4 × 2 = 6 is not correct🙈

[mighty gorge]

[ember mantle]

I see math, headache inducing math. Will leave you guys to it

[winter canyon]

2x4=8 and we should get 8x the prize, not 6x

They stole rewards from us

There's something wrong with the battle engine formula too... someone posted it a few weeks ago iirc

Explains why 200K troops can burn 10 million 1 hit

iirc = "If I recall correctly"

[still tapir]

Well I’m sure there is something wrong with their decrease troop timer also. 🤷‍♂️

[winter canyon]

That 100 troops can't beat 1 troop doesn't make sense to me

Guess how many hits this lasts😅

How many hits before burned

[still tapir]

Yes

[winter canyon]

Not even that

Burned on the next hit

Usually if you take something like half a million wounded, the next hit will almost always be fatal

So if you get attacked, use shield or port away ASAP😅

[lucid portal]

Fix your pow matching!!! …. It’s totally broken

[gusty dove]

you misspelled game 😏

[slender merlin]

That's what happens when kraken with much bigger stats and Heroes/behemoths/aircraft with maxed skills which strength is based on said much bigger stats hits you and game mechanic doesn't allow your settlement to utilize 100% of troops in fight.

[stable cosmos]

Someone mentioned the fight isn't between your troops and their march, but march vs march. The rest of the troops that die just get caught in a calculation, they're not in the fight. If i could remember who said it i could go back and quote

[warped ruin]

so if the 200k army loses, the enemy will execute 2 million prisoners of war LOL

[woven spire]

Its cause its march vs march and troops keep adding on your.march till you out. Something like that

And the damage you do on whale marches is 1 troop or no report so you know enough😂

[worldly sable]

2

3 max

[winter canyon]

So another error in their formula

If I have 10 million troops they better participate😅
If 9.8 million of the troops are just sitting there doing nothing and let the enemy kill them, I'm better off not having them at all lol

[tidal apex]

Amount of troops should be making a difference in a defensive fight instead it does not matter if you have 200mln troops or 10 mln. When attacked more troops just means more points for svs for attacker instead of harder fight 🤣

[olive sluice]

yeah.. if only 300k of my troopers are involved in a fight, it's not fair that all the others die too. 👿

[woven spire]

If it really was like that. People beating other whales march vs march would zero whales

All troops fight just not at once

[stable cosmos]

Look at what happens in AH when a whale knocks you out of a mine. Your mine march isn't zeroed, you can see what the wounded etc looks like and its lower than an hq hit

[tidal apex]

Yes but it is not changing the outcome.

For example lets say you have 10 mln troops. You get attacked and have 700k wounded.

Then if you have same stats but 100mln troops logic would say you should have better battle results, right? Such a big numbers difference. But no, you will still get 700k wounded 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Hey found it. Read through this

[woven spire]

It does. Cause alot people march vs march lose instanly no? But settlement they defend

[stable cosmos]

This is less about losing. Well sorta. Like should i beat a maxed player in one on one combat in a tower or fortress? No absolutely not. But that same whale should be a smear if he hits my hq and 10 million troops all shoot him at once, which doesn't happen. Because reasons

[tidal apex]

Yes, it is not about march v march fights.

It is about the fact that the troops you spend years training are not worth a fart.

[woven spire]

If you read back. Some think thats if you have 30mil troops 200k fight and thats it

I am trying to give a example thats not the case

If so leads like Dior could burn a Eros which makes 0 sense

[stable cosmos]

Read the post i linked. Thatswhat happens in an hq hit

[gritty fiber]

That’s a bunch of maths
I agree with you though, that it should be 10 million guns on his one march all at once and they should be blown to smithereens

[spring parcel]

This is SOS math. They gotta make sure spender krakens are making their "O" face when they hit smalls that spend nothing.

[stable cosmos]

It can be not 10 million guns. But it should also mean that you only fight the one thing. Can't hurt troops that weren't in the fight. That means you don't instantly have 10 million in enlistment

[nova jetty]

It seems to me that hitting a base should injure alot more of the attacking troops having that many guns pointed at a single march should kill the single march pretty easily being that the odds are seriously against them. The march should look like Swiss cheese even if they are all navy seals...

[worldly sable]

I want a nuclear option to be able to blow up krakens

Hitting little bases doesn't give me that o face pleasure anymore

Plus it doesn't give me points so most avoid it

[nova jetty]

That's how I feel in pow when I bomb whales...

[winter canyon]

If it was 200K troops of kraken against 10M troops of a player with 0 lethal/HP/attack/defense stats, the kraken should easily win

But when 200K troops of kraken beats 10M troops of a F2P/low spend with 1500 lethal/HP, that just doesn't make sense to me...

[worldly sable]

I think kraken marches have over 300k now so the math is a bit better

[winter canyon]

10m troops should still overwhelm 300K troops😅

[nova jetty]

I'm still trying to figure out how we are feeding those soldiers in a post apocalyptic world ... and where are theses 10 million beds? but yes I agree the math is way off.

[worldly sable]

Whatever Agatha is on

Made her guns huge

[winter canyon]

Billions of 🍅

But I'm wondering how there's space for so many troops in the settlement

But are games supposed to be realistic🤷🏼‍♀️
There are two giant mutated behemoths😂

[nova jetty]

No but thinking about it still makes me laugh a bit...

That's twice the population of Chicago in three tiny barracks

[summer hawk]

Hello

[winter canyon]

Tiny barracks with infinite capacity

[vague shoal]

I know it’s my fault, but I just want to complain that I forgot to spend spinny wheel tokens by reset, and I got 6000 food crates, for tokens that were worth 60 behemoth frags. Such a crazy unfair exchange rate

[winter canyon]

I don't know why they don't allow coins to roll over to the next event

[vague shoal]

I understand that they don’t want you to save them for the skins

Just wish they give a bit better conversion for people who get tied up and forget

[gritty fiber]

Feel your pain, totally been there

[nova jetty]

Oh no I did too....

[lavish heron]

Please who has the updated journey to glory schedule??

[summer hawk]

Ok

[nova jetty]

The schedule in the event depend on your state age . Let me find a guide for you brb

[stable cosmos]

Or don't have quite enough to buy anything good. Spending on some speedups "because" feels stupid

[lavish heron]

Thanks 🙏

[stable cosmos]

Turn them into rr currency or something

[nova jetty]

#📖︱official_en_content message
#📖︱official_guides message

Maybe these might help?

[lavish heron]

Thanks 🙏 but even sos didn’t update it… for example stage 2 has heroes but it’s not on the charts

[vale yoke]

At this point, I would accept stamina at a ridiculously reduced ratio if it meant I didn't get more rss crates lol plus, they're killing us on stamina.

[mighty gorge]

I want a.magic goat that gives stamina

[vale yoke]

I WANT MY GOAT

It has not been forgotten!

Goat march, 3rd year of requesting

Easter theme can be farm and I get my goat.

[stable cosmos]

That doesn't fit with the glitter farting unicorn

[vale yoke]

Mmhmm

Listen.

They won't give me my dev chat.

They won't give me a job.

They won't even let me be a mod.

Give me my goat.

Do I need a neon sign that says, "Liannin can absolutely be bought for the low, low price of one goat" because it can be done

[stable cosmos]

I'm up to 15000 bios from in game feedback.

[mighty gorge]

I'll raise you two camels and a sandal

[vale yoke]

I stopped after I got my invite which was apparently bunk. In September.

[vale yoke]

Goat march or bust. I want it to scream as it prances across the screen to headbutt the target, then prance happily back.

We already have the prancing available a la General Shiba Inu.

[mighty gorge]

I can go to sleep peacefully knowing that I threw the grenade and my job here is done

Or maybe it was an exploding goat idk

[vale yoke]

There are very few things I want at the end of the day.
World peace. End poverty. The developer of the video game I've been playing for nearly four years to finally get with the times and make it a point to understand their community, while taking the bold steps to proactively correct game bugs and develop this into a thoughtful, plot driven, engaging title in order to both profit and please gamers. A goat.
The normal stuff.

[gritty fiber]

Just a few small things 😆

[vale yoke]

[mighty gorge]

I wonder how long I can watch planets for, and if any of them that are not earth have a peaceful, economic goat community

[vale yoke]

[mighty gorge]

With a thriving app company called Goat+

[gritty fiber]

It’s a cure for insomnia

[vale yoke]

Goat economics is never boring

[gritty fiber]

Seriously though, after 3 years don’t you have a stockpile of Stamina by now Liannin? You should be rolling in Stamina

[mighty gorge]

What's going to blow your mind is I would officially like to request watcher submit a report for a stamina giving goat statue

Made of left over coins from events so it can be levelled indefinitely

[gritty fiber]

Well if it’s official alright

[vale yoke]

I have an emergency stash of 30 supply crates I always hold onto, but I'm getting low on the excess over that. I think I've only got 76 supply crates, and 124 stamina cans available on top of a full bar because I haven't logged in yet.

My other two accounts are down to like 50 supply crates and 90 cans each

[mighty gorge]

Actually I've decided. The statue can change its output that it produces every 48h

[vale yoke]

I love it

[gritty fiber]

That sounds very biocap incubator-ish

[mighty gorge]

It sounds very "it's been done in other undisclosed titles...ish" 😂

[vale yoke]

It sounds very "this is something they might want to copy/paste"

[mighty gorge]

It could produce mini goats that can be exchanged for in game items

[vale yoke]

Honestly, if they just asked us what we liked and didn't like from all these types of games, they could prolly do well. Hint: more balance with event schedule (this does not mean all weeks now become magically filled, it means drop some events from overfull weeks)

[vale yoke]

Have I told you lately that i- like you as a person?

[mighty gorge]

Not lately, and I'm not even drunk 😆

[gritty fiber]

Remember how long it took for skin tickets to be a thing?

[vale yoke]

I'm well baked, so don't get too excited, sugar

[vale yoke]

stares into the middle distance

[stable cosmos]

Skin tickets are barely a thing. They never change the hqs and charge $120k for enough tickets to buy something. Way over values

[mighty gorge]

Oooo...if you could obtain lotion, you could rub the lotion on the skin (tickets)
.....oh wait.

[vale yoke]

Do... Should I get the hose, or...?

[mighty gorge]

Wasn't that in a movie lol

[mighty gorge]

Wait what, hoses...that escalated quickly 😳 😂

[vale yoke]

[mighty gorge]

Even watcher ran away

[vale yoke]

Went to make coffee. Chat sufficiently dead? Noice.

[mighty gorge]

Coffee at 120am..

[fleet yarrow]

When do you think vehicles will be in reports like planes are....or are they only for infected

[stable cosmos]

Reports are a hot mess now anyway

[olive sluice]

we'll get new reports (with new bugs) soon

I wonder which school teaches the "math" the devs are using... Where an additional joiner reduces the total rally damage, while everyone else is exactly the same (in dino rallies) 🤔 🤡

[summer hawk]

Hello dear

[tame jackal]

You wanting to show them in the report, and I just want to have a golden one

[tardy night]

Possible when someone joins whose behemoth or plane or tanks count higher than the previously lowest joiner but their upgrades on those lead to dishing out lesser damage. Like someone who has troop revival on dino/steel wings on plane FS would be high but those don't contribute to damage dealt I presume?

[stiff ether]

Is anyone else missing those tycoon bills from backpack or is it just me?

[boreal gate]

Anyone know what states can transfer to what state range?

[midnight vigil]

It hasn't been announced yet as they are still reviewing the ranges. Keep an eye on #⭐︱game_information and once announced the information should be there.

[outer seal]

there is no game in POW, when teams are matched with random players

[gritty fiber]

The new maps are somewhat interesting though. Having to rethink some maneuvering.

Sorry, I thought I turned off that tag

[outer seal]

there is nothing to rethink, when you just have to wait for next game, hoping you won't have same bs again

[gritty fiber]

Are you in Gold?

[outer seal]

platinum. i don't like any from new maps:)

[gritty fiber]

Never ever reached that high 😅

[solemn gulch]

Thx as usual

[outer seal]

i have a feeling, they change dev's team every few months, so guys have no clue about the game. i feel very sorry for those who got jackpot on last seconds. same was with festival, guys just can't get, that it's needed to extend shop for 1 day to let use rewards, because they never tried to play events, they giving for us

[gritty fiber]

Gone… mine are gone poofed

[stiff ether]

Did i miss an announcement regarding that? I never expected them to convert them 1:1 in skin tickets despite saying so in PTR, but removing them from backpack without any notification is a bit shady.

[stable anvil]

Same here and many got theirs converted to rss but the rest i guess got crap.

[tardy night]

Remember when they deleted logs of biocap removal cuz what they did to them was completely legit? 😂

[tardy night]

They said they would convert to tickets in live game as well. Till round 3.

Chinese auditing at work🤣

[stiff ether]

😂

[tardy night]

Live game

Hey mods what's the ToS say about respect again

Rules for thee not for me~

[gritty fiber]

Actually it was the PTR players that clued me in. Would have missed it completely but for them. Was way too late to try to look up the description on what happens after the event ends.

[gritty fiber]

They hung around for a couple days which is so weird right

[tardy night]

Retroactive edit 3 rounds into the event. Cuz Christmas is for shartplus to get money, not the other way around.

[outer seal]

it's also a good time to upset own players:)

[gritty sluice]

Call the ambulance,
But not for me

[jade minnow]

Hello. I have quick question about 'Resident evil' event. Info says that it is open till 25th January, but every option isn't accessible because it is ended....I'm little confused:)

[storm solstice]

Hi Ahmed Lisu
The store is open. That's the only thing that keeps working/stay open. 😅🙊

[austere spoke]

And the bundles

[warm phoenix]

Like MKR says, RE event is ended but you can still acces the store and you can still do the RE story explores if you have not finished them. You can access via the Hero Precinct. Thanks MKR

[storm solstice]

Oh, did not expect that I have to mention that. That's a default value always working.

[jade minnow]

Thank You for reply guys:)

[digital glacier]

The vast majority of the resident evil collaboration has been a train wreck, and I would be ashamed of state of survival if I was employed by capcom

[jade minnow]

I have got these rewards - first screen is from my farm, second from main...On both settlements I have done all events 'the same', so I don't know why rewards are different.

[stable cosmos]

Always this. The resident hope festival of evil. Where the only thing RE about it is the coins. And its branded for a 4 month old event.

[civic star]

Hello there, which event is that?

[jade minnow]

I have got these rewards when Resident evil event has ended.

[civic star]

Uhmm I agree I thought collab version would be easy to acquire but not entirely the case with this one.... I know you not a big fan of submitting in #📋︱feedback-reporting but could you do one exception this time? Would love for you to submit full detailed version of your thoughts on this RE event

[jade minnow]

Ok, but I have not bought the pack to unlock it, so if I have got something for free, then this 'subject' can be close🤣

[digital glacier]

You didn't have to buy the bundle on that end crate to get rewarded for level 61+

It said it in the rules that every level after 60 will result in a crate that gives random rewards.
Nothing in the rules said you had to pay to unlock it.

Whereas the other info it had mentioned paying to unlock extra rewards.

Deception = Scam = Illegal

[humble spear]

Send the stolen skin tickets, not this pathetic 15 pearls!

[stable cosmos]

The 15 pearls were for the bugged final sign in. So i mean, yay they fixed something. Stores closed now and its a week late but we got a sign in reward.

Doesn't mean they didn't still fail at the rest of the stuff. Could have 2:1ed the tickets into something useful with a cap on it.

[stable cosmos]

Nope. I do submit. If you look through you'll see what i submit on. RE i raised all my complaints in game. Got some bios for it

[humble spear]

Yeah sure it was visual bug, all FP is a big joke

[silk heath]

Bumping this. Plesse consider adding a vote. Thank you.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[tidal apex]

It just makes me feel sad.... Its not like skin tickets are even that valuable but they refuse to even give those to players

[stable cosmos]

Fp way overvalue them. Like yeah i can buy an outdated skin. Its not going to make me particularly strong, its just a nice to have. In many games skins would be fun, not some giant benefit

[cloud ridge]

So

They can predict when they'll be sign in rewards issues before they occur, but couldn't do the same for this sign in?

Sounds a bit made up to be honest and them just winging things...

[silk heath]

I think they probably discovered the first issue during testing in one of the test states, but when the last day of the rewards issue was discovered, many of the developers were already on their Christmas annual leave. At least they've sent the compensation.
Now I just have to wait until the next Pearl store event

[cloud ridge]

So, they didn't test whole event?

I mean

They had time to chance event rules and that beforehand for the cash to skin tickets conversions

So, seems a bit sus

[silk heath]

I'm not a game developer so I don't know what happened that allowed this issue to occur. But it certainly was frustrating.

[cloud ridge]

Neither are the current game developers, developers

It's why I kicked of at support over the missing sign in statue

No where in the text error comp they advised about the sign in issue that would happen in a few days yet attached the statue as part of the comp.

Why was it so hard to add like a sentence or two to advise of the sign in issues as well

They just dig the hole deeper for themselves

[silk heath]

I believe they sent the sign-in statue prior to the actual day.

I agree it wasn't explained properly when they did that.

Even the moderators misunderstood it.

[cloud ridge]

They sent it prior yes, but it wasn't explained at all why.

I thought they we're just being nice and giving us a free statue

But of course no

[silk heath]

If it's too good to be true.....

[sleek moth]

Suggestion - allow Governor to mute and unmute someone on state chat. The mute must be for valid reasons otherwise the player will be stripped of Governorship immediately and banned from being a Governor for 730 days.

[silk heath]

I love this idea!!!!

[stable cosmos]

That would be too hard to police. How do you prove a valid mute?

[sleek moth]

if it violates SOS TOC, like talking discrimination, insults, sexual harassment, politics etc

[stable cosmos]

Yeah, those are reasons for a mute, but how is it validated as part of the process?

[sleek moth]

No need validation. If the player thinks it is not a valid mute, send request to CS. If the mute is invalid the governor would be punish by stripping them of governor. and impose a period that they cannot be a governor again. So they have to be extra stringent in using that power.

[stable cosmos]

CS are pretty poor at that stuff

[silk heath]

If it was implemented as part of the existing markings system and used governor credits, it would reduce its uses which could make it less open to abuse.

[sleek moth]

What do you mean by existing marking system?

[silk heath]

That's true. It's difficult for them to fully understand context of why a mute is needed.

[silk heath]

Like Worm, Donkey, Sloth etc

[sleek moth]

Hence maybe assign some mods to be the auditor

[stable cosmos]

Be even harder for them to override one, especially when the person posting can't neccessatily prove they didn't. Unless the reason for the mute must be pulled from chat

[sleek moth]

Mods are fully trained to know at one glance if it is a valid mute or not.

[silk heath]

That would still be difficult unless the mod has been around watching.

Sometimes it's really not clear from looking at a few messages.

[sleek moth]

Well repeated spreading of communism agenda is pretty clear.

[mighty gorge]

I dread to think of the backlash I would get as Governor if I muted someone.

[stable cosmos]

Its not a bad suggestion exactly, and the game needs a few more administrative bits, but if you want the devs to even consider it slightly you'd better flesh it out fully or you'll get an awful and abusable system

[silk heath]

The governor is usually supported by their own alliance and at least one other.

[mighty gorge]

If it was implemented in a way as a limited time it would maybe work, say restricted to a maximum of a 2h mute and so many times per day

[silk heath]

Personally, I'd like to see people forced to bubble when they receive a mod mute so they can't attack anyone during their mute.

[mighty gorge]

I know. I'm Governor in my state lol

[silk heath]

Depending on what they've done wrong.

[sleek moth]

Yup it makes sense. Perhaps put a small cool down of 30 minutes between each use of the mute function, just like shackles for example.

[stable cosmos]

You mean shackled. Bubbling means others can't attack them

They can still hit someone, it just breaks the bubble

[silk heath]

Both. Basically totally disable their gameplay if they've been really bad.

[stable cosmos]

You don't want them bubbled. If they've been bad enough, let the state zero them

[silk heath]

That's fair

[sleek moth]

Now it's fairly easy to zero though, any whale can easily zero someone unless you are huge or another whale player

[stable cosmos]

If someone has been mod muted and then gets shackled they can be hit. Whereas bubbling them during a mod mute means they're safe...

[silk heath]

I've got Heist shortly. I'll write you a feedback post after that and then we can review it to see if it needs any words adding or changing.

[sleek moth]

Thank you Orbit

[stable cosmos]

Think the WHOLE thing through.

[silk heath]

Safe, but also bored.

[stable cosmos]

They can always break the bubble and relo somewhere...

[silk heath]

When I said bubble, I meant totally unable to break it during their mute.

[sleek moth]

Mute bubble cannot be broken.

[stable cosmos]

So, new mechanic. You gotta spell that stuff out.

[peak apex]

interesting discussion & ideas, could that not lead to targetting on the smaller govs that use those though? alot of states will pass governer around so they may not always be max / whales / strong

[sleek moth]

If they try to break they receive a message that says "A mute is in place and you are unable to break the peace flare till xxxxx"

[mighty gorge]

[stable cosmos]

And of course they're safe, cos they're bubbled

[mighty gorge]

Too many feedbacks with insufficient detail and they end up with some random half baked implementation nothing like was asked

Not that they ever actually do listen

[stable cosmos]

Whats a valid mute, how is that policed, if its wrong how do they get out. What effect does it have. Is an invalid mute really worth losing a gov. Theres a bunch there to consider

[silk heath]

My feedbacks are full of detail normally and I'll bring it back to you guys for editing in case something is missing.

[silk heath]

I think most states know who their trolls are that need muting. It's the same level of targeting as shackles.

[mighty gorge]

I didn't say your's. The feedback itself that you write is only as good as what you are told by the person suggesting it. I've read some this morning which are utter nonsense.

[peak apex]

theres also some states where leading alliances are kinda bullies could lead to missuse?

[silk heath]

The same miss use that shackles could have?

[stable cosmos]

Yep. Hence thinking it through. Valid mute needs to be backed up by a bit more than peoples feelings

[sleek moth]

If it is an invalid mute --> allow a mod to get them out or they can also write to CS to do so. At the same time, the governor must be warned to read the SOS TOS and that it must break the TOS. Otherwise they get a very stiff penalty like immediate remove of governorship and block them from being a governor again for up to 730 days.

[mighty gorge]

Maybe a mute could be applied, but ONLY implemented on an R4 seconding it

[silk heath]

It's difficult. Sometimes people are just being ultra rude but not breaking TOS.

[mighty gorge]

So it has to have a 'supporting leader'

[peak apex]

this would mean mods have to verify and log not only mod actions but all gov actions too - what about the states without mods?

[silk heath]

That's a nice idea. I like that.

[stable cosmos]

CS are not good at muting the worst trolls. How does the person who has been unfairly muted prove their innocence? How long will that take?

[silk heath]

Or an R5 vote

[sleek moth]

R4 from another alliance which the governor is not in.

[mighty gorge]

That way, its not just one person's "Feeling" or opinion.

[stable cosmos]

R5 suddenly out for RR because someone got smart

[peak apex]

tbh by the time cs responds, its normally over 😅

[silk heath]

Then it gets too complicated and the devs probably wouldn't implement it.

But I'm certain that many states would be grateful to have that type of feature.
It won't fix everything. Especially if you have more than one toxic player chatting.

[sleek moth]

Having a R4 seconding it is also quite complicated though

[stable cosmos]

Root idea of more capability to deal with offensive content in chat is fine. But implementation via gov for ephemeral and hard to police reasons is not

Be better to have an SC shadowban if more than 10 people report something

[silk heath]

Is there any real difference between gov implementing a chat mute vs gov implementing shackles? Why would gov chat mute need policing when shackles doesn't?

[stable cosmos]

"Mutes must be for valid reasons" was the comment

[peak apex]

you'd have to have guidelines for each gov to follow (like mods) to be able to determine 'valid reasons' which could be open to interpretation and abuse 😅

[silk heath]

I don't disagree with you. I just like discussing the feedback fully so that it can be written in the best way possible and not just half baked.

[stable cosmos]

And shackles is like, 10 minutes or something. For a mute to work you'd need 24 hours minimum

[mighty gorge]

There are semantics of course of how this is implemented, but this is just an off the top of my head view.

In the Gov window all this has to be is a mute option, once that is engaged it opens up a second 'tick' box which in theory the R4 team can then see.

The other alternative is under markings, but again the option to 'support' the decision has to be seconded.

Alternatively, a 1h mute isn't hard to do, just for a period, its non-offensive, and could only be applied once every 2h as example.

There are several ways it could be implemented, each with restrictions to avoid abuse

[stable cosmos]

1h would be reasonable with zero controls but doesn't have much impact on a disgusting troll problem

[silk heath]

How about...
Gov initiates a mute.
All state players receive a popup saying

Gov has initiated a mute against player XYZ. Vote started

Votes needed to complete mute 0/100

That way, it has to be a large group of people agreeing to get the person muted by the gov.

[sleek moth]

Large group how many?

[silk heath]

100

Players

[sleek moth]

old states dont have as many people

[mighty gorge]

Lets look at it another way, what if there is more than one person being insulting? I experienced cyber mobbing in my state in the early years.

Of course, thats more extreme, but its possible that more than one person is involved.

And how would you 'request' a mute from the gov?

(if you're not gov)

[sleek moth]

Perhaps 5 for small states, maybe up to 20 for newest states?

[woven spire]

Not sure what happend to your state them

I even believe old states have more people then newer once

Based on migo points per state

[mighty gorge]

We don't have 100 people that could vote.

Or rather, 100 'active' people

[woven spire]

100 people in state?

Then your state is really dead

Probally whales transfered out

[mighty gorge]

We have two relatively large players, that's it and the alliance I'm in bar maybe one other Asian/Chinese alliance that has several active. All other alliances are mostly less than casual play. So I doubt even in the space of a day you would get a 'vote' of 100. Probably 3-5 days for that many to respond, maybe longer

[stable cosmos]

Timing is a thing with that too. 100 people online when the mute would make a difference?

[sleek moth]

Usually the more rowdy ones are at newer states.

My other state is so quiet, if you have a few talking in a day, it's a miracle

[sleek moth]

I am thinking based on percentage of active members of the state.

[silk heath]

Oh that's for sure.

[stable cosmos]

Devs don't have a good system for state activity

[silk heath]

I'm missing Heist to have this conversation

[stable cosmos]

Go do heist. This conversation is minor

[mighty gorge]

Dev's ideas on activity are somewhat misguided

[sleek moth]

Sorry Orbit, but I assure you it's worth it 🥰

[silk heath]

I'm a few minutes late. Hopefully the game will let me reschedule.

[woven spire]

Oh limited time. I get that

[stable cosmos]

Devs couldn't find their bum with both hands most of the time

[sleek moth]

just skip and dont enter

[woven spire]

Old states are not really dead if you compare them to new states

[mighty gorge]

Oh cripes, Heist 🤦‍♂️ I forgot, I registered for 11 UTC