📋︱feedback-discussion

[steel musk]

also no formation system for mine lvl 9 and still win at report 😅

[mighty gorge]

The entire thing feels borked, like as you say its set to never be able to be won. Weird as hell.

[steel musk]

yep there is not another reason..
I guess stats close also

[mighty gorge]

I also swapped out my rider resonating hero for Maddie. It increased the mine guardian losses by about 30k, but all the stats remained the same. What the hell.

[vague shard]

Think I won’t research level 9 mines 🙂

[steel musk]

they reduction wounded but didn't reduction difficulty.. 😂

[mighty gorge]

Yep, this is also why I'm pointing it out. People will waste their parts on this and then just feel hard done by

[unreal lichen]

I fell on the same trap, cannot defeat 8 or 9.
Also given I'm a tiny P4, I should not hope for more lol

[unreal lichen]

That is true !

[digital glacier]

TA don't show on any zombie attack, but the stats exist in the report. Devs just failed to update.

It doesn't show hero gear or formation system for enemy, but if you click on the HERO SKILLS odds are is says (for the enemy) not acquired)
But if you scroll down to battle details, and look at it there, you will see they have the skills 😂
So. I'm not surprised if they have tempest but just don't show it.

[wide wraith]

where are the bots to take the complaints, hiding doing nothing as usual

[mighty gorge]

Get your feedback cheque book out Warden 😂

[unreal lichen]

I'm up for it if anyone is interested for a feedback drop...

[wide wraith]

no point in adding feedback after all the Cms wont be on for at least a week

and no one else even looks at it, especially the lazy, Devs

[unreal lichen]

I am sure the feedbacks are looked at. Unfortunately, not every one of them are implemented.

[wide wraith]

you must be new, they dont read them because they dont understand them

if we had CMs who actually cared, they would be on a lot more

did they actually test the march interface

question do the childish debuffs remove for RR?

they are degrading, especially when used to hold playerrs back

so effectively they are against FP TOS

<@&628563208164081690> answer the question or get a CM here if you do not know the answer

[tardy night]

They don't want to give away those TA mats to anyone except maxed/near maxed folks.

Just as dumb a mechanic as dino Intel difficulty.

hey, let's show the amazing rewards on offer in the game, available exclusively for people who no longer need them

[wide wraith]

its always been like that, fixed by country or who spends the most, basically a racist company

[tardy night]

If they could only work on an adjustable reward system with several handicap levels to reward game skill or grinding or offer stuff people actually need after clearing a 9 tile.

But too busy making christmas packs

[wide wraith]

probably drunk from xmas parties

[tardy night]

Like - how difficult is it to have a damage threshold deciding payoffs on a level 9 tile.

They do it for that dumb Colosseum.

[wide wraith]

that is a waste of time now

No CMs, by the look of it No Mods this Discord is fast becoming a waste of time or should I say even more a waste of time

[plain osprey]

Please remove this stupid and completely unnecessary popup that requires an extra click every time I need to use the march

[unreal lichen]

Hi Axel, I know this is a very annoying pop up !

You can upvote this feedback here, which mentions the same: #📋︱feedback-reporting message

It really upsets me when trying to join fast rally events -> RR/MM/Trap 😢

[steel musk]

formation it's already 60 20 20.. why double click?

[magic anchor]

try tap on the icon so the window for troop composition opens. then click save.

[steel musk]

just click on march then it will go

[unreal lichen]

Thank you for the tip nkal !

Axel, you can try this out, this trick has helped me to not spawn the pop up every time.

[plain osprey]

Yes I tried, for now seems to be working

[plain osprey]

Thanks I was going insane

[unreal lichen]

Have a cup of hot drink: ☕

[outer seal]

let's be honest, guys never test updates properly, just checking if it works anyhow. they are not even going to test them in future as already used to have players as testers. devs have no people who are able to test updates, as don't play own game. don't know what they forgot in gamedevelopment, i never seen such company before, which has no clue about the own product

[knotty sierra]

Please change where the formations are on the March screen. It’s impossible to click a formation during trap or any event where a notification appears at the top of the screen

[outer seal]

i wonder, why people don't complain about notifications, which are impossible to turn off:)

[stray acorn]

becuz no one listen

[spark wren]

greetings this have been reported many times by players please upvotes this feedback >#📋︱feedback-reporting message and other feedback in #📋︱feedback-reporting of the reports that you agree with

[spark swallow]

no way... slow mode got activated for feedback reporting☠️ 😂 🤦‍♂️

[spark wren]

if you want to summit multiple reports you can request a mod to post them for you

[cosmic tulip]

Been happening a lot this week, last time people got this rowdy was the gift code incident. Shows you how much love we have with the new features they’ve added.

[vagrant parrot]

This new menu is annoying as hell when doing trap. Hard to select saved formation when launching a rally. The rally notifications that’s pops up in middle of the screen prevents me from using saved formation.

[mighty gorge]

Just use the formation setting to the right beyond the banner.

[vagrant parrot]

You mean standard 4?

[mighty gorge]

Yep

[vagrant parrot]

Ok I will try thanks for the tip 😍

[mighty gorge]

Not a fix, but it works for now

[vagrant parrot]

But I liked when they are in right tbh

[tacit scroll]

When they will fix traps notifications ? I cant open Rally first anymore because of notifications

[tardy night]

They could just decrease the size of those banners. No clue why they have to occupy such a huge area of the screen

Does their plan include intentionally disrupting casual gameplay, then saying they hear the community by "fixing" what was not broken?

[mighty gorge]

It's like they need lessons in general asthetics and UX positioning/design. I'm genuinely gobsmacked and how little insight they have to their own game. I think even my grandmother could do better. Look at the stupidity of RR banners, click a building and a banner appears infront and you end up on the other side of the map.

[tropic talon]

The new formation buttons would be great, if the stupid notifications wouldn't go on top of them:

this way it is useless.... I click on the notificaiton and I jump to a rally or a settlement....

[tacit scroll]

How can they create and release things without testing them

[tropic talon]

Also state/tempest messages in front of it:

[torpid grotto]

Testing is overrated

[tropic talon]

so not just notifications are in front of the buttons, but the alert messages too. Good job!

it is like...developers don't even know their own game :S

[outer seal]

they don't know it. actually notifications save you from clicking what is behind of formation menu. if guys fix notifications we will start to open bundles, as menus are transparent and you never know if you will click active menu or something what is behind of it

[torpid grotto]

For FP testing takes too much time. Their time is very valuable.

[tropic talon]

they consume their precious time with making bugs that they won't fix later

[outer seal]

this is the way of development, guys used to follow

[dense lance]

open the menu it's asking you to open once, with the 3 dots to the left of the fist, save it to close it, it should stay away for a while at least

it's making you double tap because the first tap is cancelling the 1 step tutorial, it's bad design but at least you can make it go away

the game wants to verify that you know how to send lower tier troops out if you had some reason to want to fight with weaker troops

[unreal lichen]

March selection at the top of the screen is a horrible idea, when playing in a busy event the banners get in the way 100000%

[vagrant parrot]

totally agree with you

[grand summit]

I lost almost 1,000 hours of training in my backpack. I had 5,000, today I have 4,200. Why? I didn't use it! How is it possible that items from the backpack disappear? 😡 I can't even report it and prove it 😐 I once saw someone write about items disappearing from their backpacks, now I experienced it..

[dense lance]

honestly I've found those banners annoying for a long time, especially when the game sometimes decides that I missed all the banners for the last hour of SVS and then it shows them all again unless I close and re-open the game

I kinda think that suggestion to let us turn them off would be nice, or maybe an option to move them

the UI is more cluttered than an episode of hoarders at this point, especially with the sales offers

[vagrant parrot]

😂

no matter how much feedback we give to the game. no one gives a damn

🙄

[outer seal]

half of the game has same bad design, after guys started to change interface, it's UI/antiUX now

[dense lance]

depends, I think they listen if we all complain, it shouldn't take that but it works when something is so bad it makes thousands of people complain

but like "You need a 24/7 button for the crystal mining" isn't annoying enough to provoke mass outrage

[wide wraith]

its funny I asked a question to the <@&628563208164081690> is was ignored, maybe i should take a leaf out of the Game's book and start referring to them a small horse like creature that has a major role in christmas after all no one seems to want it removed

[timid kelp]

I'm sorry Shadowlord, how can I help?

[wide wraith]

these childish, insulting, degrading debuffs, are they still visible during RR

[timid kelp]

Good question, I have never noticed them in RR myself, but I will find out for you.

[dense lance]

governor buffs are active during RR

includes debuffs, probably

[timid kelp]

Yes both buffs and debuffs are active/visible during RR

[wide wraith]

the governor in 759 used one on me because i refused to buy more bundles and told them that some people have a real life that the way they dictate who can take what bunker. He then called me an R word that i cant repost here

[dense lance]

Also the state ones (the gold fist lethality one)

[timid kelp]

I knew on the buffs but I can't ever remember seeing a debuffed player was all

[dense lance]

RR even has the gold fist one in it's little icon bank for that

[wide wraith]

the debuffs are against the TOS of Funplus then

[dense lance]

Honestly I think they're meant as a solution to state internal problems, which is good, but for a healthy state they should only be used sparingly

[wide wraith]

what you mean telling people to buy more packs or that they havent tried in SvS because that is how it was used in State 759

[timid kelp]

Honestly I wouldn't give them for that, buying doesn't have to be part of the game... But usually I'd give to players who broke state rules/tried to be a nuisance

[wide wraith]

governors who act like that , basically a bully should be removed, not only as governor but from the game

[timid kelp]

You get nice ones and you get bad ones

[wide wraith]

and you get dictators, this is why merges NEVER work in the long run

how would the CMs like it if I refered to them as a "Don key" for not doing their jobs, but its allowed in the game?

[dense lance]

If your governor gives debuffs as a bully the rest of the state needs to organize and say "If we want to work together for SVS this needs to stop"

[wide wraith]

they wont because they are scared as his alliance is all the whales

[dense lance]

Then just don't show up and have someone quietly let them know that that's why

Go get your points by invading the other state and see if they complain nobody is joining them

The tool itself is useful, like if someone is behaving badly the debuff can be used to express state disapproval without wasting your troops trying to attack a rally leader with 10 bajillion troops who would only laugh, but give him the troop training penalty during SOTF and he might feel a little pain

[plain osprey]

Yeah i don't even know why would i want to send lower tier of troops... such a useless feature to me

[dense lance]

fake plague zone is a good one, joke attacks with 1 troop against friends, experiments with heroes (10,000 intel troops vs 10,000 intel troops), using a march of intel troops to try to get stats, sending lower tier troops that heal faster to try to get a few more points in SVS and not caring about losses, there's a few

as long as you have the troops there needs to be a way to use them, just the setup with it not being obvious or not having the tutorial force upon game launch and making you complete it is less ideal

having it wait until you need to attack or reinforce something and having it not be clear that if you engage it it will stop is where it's a design issue imo

[formal marten]

not my pic but please bring this one back , new one is horrible and i cant even play especially the custom marches i made everytime i click on standard 1 all i get rally notify,!!! i hope everyone will send feedback regarding this issue @merry scroll

[cloud fern]

To add to Auto, I had a formation set with my behehes, Travis, a couple rando heroes, and one troop of my lowest rank that I held just for intel missions that were far away from my settlement.

[digital glacier]

Why send t12 to gather if you have t10? If you send out t12 and you get attacked at base, you're weaker and dependant upon your base defense capability, more of your hospital gets filled with t10 when it could be filled with t12 instead. So, you lose a lot more in that aspect. You lose strength, you lose power, you make yourself weaker.
If tiles get hit, ok t10s goto hospital, cheaper to heal and cheaper to replace if it goes over hospital capacity than t12.

[digital glacier]

New one gives you 2 more presets to use.
I like the new one for this aspect.
They just need to move the presets to the right and put the ground artillery units below by the behemoths.

[digital glacier]

Travis, daryl, behemoths, 1 t1.
Daryl for faster march speed. It helps maybe 3 or 4 minutes doing all intel in a day, not much, but it helps get done faster. Especially for the fiend rallies.

[cloud fern]

I wish I had Daryl. But that's good for players who have him available.

[digital glacier]

@wide wraith
Not sure why some here debating the governor debuffing players.
I mean, I had the donkey for the most time in my state. It sucks, don't get me wrong. But also, my state took 1 year after the first svs before they made a super alliance 🤣 were like 1 year behind the times.
But, because of this. I also made it quite annoying for them.
20 alts. Sit at svs.
Give spot to enemy state 🤣 back before facility introduction.
It took about 4 times of me doing this for them to realize. Don't F with me 🤣

Its really not that difficult to solve the dictator governor in any state. Regardless how strong the alliance is.
Nobody partakes in svs to help the state win. But play svs.
Jump to red zone spots. Then give up spots to enemy.
Use wall destroyers on your own state when they start for capitol.
The whole state recon bombs all players from the dictator alliance recon 60 people takes a few minutes. And can only recon them every 10 minutes, but getting 200 players in state who hate the dictator governed alliance, should cause for a very annoying event.

You could also coordinate rally your own state with the enemy 🤣

[cloud fern]

I just give coords of people I want on a hit list.

But there are definitely ways of dealing with a gov. And a gov is allowed to use the markings in anyway they choose. It is fully game mechanics

[wide wraith]

its the name of it that annoys be more, it may not be an insult in some countries but it is here, doesnt the TOS say that no one should be singled out, insulted etc. While these debuffs do just that

[digital glacier]

Also. You could join in for the fun.... Next svs, join them... Send t1 to the Whales rally...
Odds are they look at the behemoths, plane, etc, not the troops being sent itself. You can help sanatorium from within 🤣

[cloud fern]

They're named after animals. It is not singling anyone out.

[wide wraith]

its an insult

[digital glacier]

Giving a debuff to an individual is singling someone out 🙄

[wide wraith]

and marking them tells the entire state and now those in other states

[cloud fern]

They were specifically referring to the name, though.

And the game itself

[digital glacier]

It's buff / debuff that can be used at a time. 1 = single. 😂

[wide wraith]

then get the CM Donkey in here

see how they like it

after all the donkey debuff is for those who have not done enough

[timid kelp]

I had someone in my alliance who constantly wanted the healing debuff just cause they liked it 👀 personally I'm all for the Sloth 🤣

[still tapir]

Back when we had a dictator alliances 2-5 would just boycott SvS. Only do bare minimum for prep and bare minimum for war. Eventually they realized they simply couldn’t keep up with other states and always having to defend was such a burden. We sometimes work with the other state giving them spot and timing rallies with them but didn’t do that until they started burning through everyone’s territory.

[digital glacier]

They probably wanted for throwdown tasks 🤣

I've asked for the construction / resesrch debuff during bloodsport before, several times

[timid kelp]

Maybe, but I don't see them as a way of calling people out, sometimes they can be used for fun or as above real reasons

[wide wraith]

so insulting people for fun is allowed as long as they have spent enough

how much is enough

[digital glacier]

Behemoth trials go for 5 days right?

And you get 10 chances a day right?

And today, there really isn't much going on in the game, right?

[wide wraith]

they can be completed in about an hour if you grind and its unlimited chances

[digital glacier]

This event would be so much more pleasant to do if it started today and gave us the 50 chances up front.
Instead of having to wait for Monday. AKA hell week.

[dense lance]

Managing your state is part of the gameplay, we're in a war torn post zombie apocalypse with each of us being an individual nation, allying with others to try to make humanity survive, especially the part of humanity that's "us", then our Alliances of mini nations need to form more complicated relationships with the other local Alliances of nations, watch any zombie apocalypse media with enough human survivors and the real challenge isn't the undead, it's cooperating with each other not to destroy ourselves from within. If the alliance that has the governorship is abusing it and that's generally agreed on, there are ways to put pressure on their leadership to behave better, and the governor as the leader of the state has ways to put pressure on individual players beyond simple combat.

[wide wraith]

most in my allaince are not going to bother with it

[digital glacier]

Rhetorical question 🙈

[cloud fern]

I was waiting to see where you were going with that, and that's such a good point...

[dense lance]

Even beyond SVS participation, if there's another alliance that's close in power or close enough support them. Pile all the rest of the state's best behemoth's behind them and give the #2 alliance the governorship and see if they're more grateful.

[digital glacier]

99% of players, lack to do what's best for the state 🤣

[wide wraith]

says the person who thinks insulting and name-calling is ok if its for fun, forgetting that some people will get upset by it but as long as the one with the power is happy, thats ok

[dense lance]

then a leader who can engage them is needed, that's hard but if nobody is willing to step up you get what you get

"State" of Survival is kinda right there in the name

[steady umbra]

Game provides for gov buffs and debuffs to reward and punish. Its something that is common for many games.

Sadly there is this human factor also in game when gov is a player.
I get your anger about this and truly as playing in couple of states that has had dictatorship, i'm sad that we cant help with issue much.

I would hope CS would be more active to act in some of these situations.

[real gazelle]

Hey chief, this was just recently submitted as feedback you can go here to upvote it #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[steady umbra]

Ofc i dont know how its in your state as i dont play any state close to yours.

[wide wraith]

no as one of your co mods said "Maybe, but I don't see them as a way of calling people out, sometimes they can be used for fun or as above real reasons" so if you pay enough you can do what you want correct

so its ok to insult people for fun is it, it doesnt matter how it makes the victim feel

this needs a CM here

[timid kelp]

I'm sorry that you feel my answer was promotion for insulting/name-calling that was not my intent as I also explained above that sometimes people choose to want the debuff

[wide wraith]

it wasnt you

[steady umbra]

Some really use them for fun. And ask them for same reason.
One of my states that has always been peaceful has a guy who asks for worm.

But there is many type of states and truly for some its just way to have fun.

[wide wraith]

then the Devs should remove it

[timid kelp]

It was me as that was a quote of exactly what I wrote #📋︱feedback-discussion message .... So I apologise you mistook this as me promoting insults.

[wide wraith]

ok so i am seriously not happy, it may be fun for you to have insults thrown at you, but for others it not, just because i didnt buy enough packs

how do you think that makes me feel

[digital glacier]

Block them. 🤣

[wide wraith]

and then to add to it that i have a low IQ

[steady umbra]

I think for most states debuffs work as they meant to.
Its always better use debuff as punishment for rule break than rally against that player etc.
But if you want to make submission about debuff names or request of removing them i'm happy to submit it for you.

[wide wraith]

this is what the game allows?

[digital glacier]

Insulted because you're not rich or smart to not spend so much on a game that's going downhill. Toxic player. 🙈 Sucks for your state

[wide wraith]

it was voted down, even some mods did want the change

[digital glacier]

Your gov uses debuff in a bad way, I ask for debuffs to use more speedups in events because I have more speedups than than plasma 😂

[timid kelp]

Has anyone got more plasma than speedups 👀

[digital glacier]

Figure out a way to solve your horrible gov. Don't change what don't need to be changed for an entire game, simply because you can't figure out a way to solve the bully in your state 😂

[dense lance]

sometimes, the higher plasma level buildings require a lot of time

I get by but I dislike using general speeds on construction 🤣

[steady umbra]

I have

[charred swift]

I’m guessing there must have been a lot more discussion in state chat that we are not hearing about 🤔

[timid kelp]

I need more plasma.

[steady umbra]

I have 14k

No speeds

[digital glacier]

1912 plasma / 98 poly / 800 hrs (cons res)

[timid kelp]

Am jealous

[wide wraith]

its ok its been made clear to me the CMs, Mods and a large proportion of people here dont care if others are upset, just shows human nature i guess as long as those who buy their way are happy, it doesnt matter about anyone else

[timid kelp]

Shadowlord may I DM you?

[wide wraith]

i guess

[timid kelp]

Thank you 😊🙏

[steel musk]

when devs will remove Behemoth? As i know we don't own account and pay for "time"
so they could remove Behemoth

[digital glacier]

My alt though. 🙈 I don't know what to say 🤣

[digital glacier]

You being bullied is 1 thing.
You trying to change the entire gameplay after 4 years because you're being bullied is something completely different.

State transfer. 🙄

Band together and bully the bully.

Quit the game

I don't care.

Just stop making your problem a game problem.

Plain and simple.

[charred swift]

I don’t think the debuffs go far enough - makes very little difference if you have one or not.

[digital glacier]

Debuffs make a difference. Mostly the troop training one 🙈 especially during svs.

[charred swift]

Not in my experience

[digital glacier]

The others, not so much.

[charred swift]

A debuff can be a badge of honour for being that person who pushes people to the edge 🤣

[dense lance]

the training one does hurt, but it's impact is diminished, just like the patriot buff, we get so much training speed now from other places it's proportionately less

[wide wraith]

i mentioned them years ago about being the playthings of bullies, it was glossed over, fine people want them make it 24 hours only in any one term (2 weeks)

[dense lance]

that being said in newer states it's still probably a big deal

[wide wraith]

its the description of it too, that basically the player didnt do enough or even try

[charred swift]

Most people pay no attention to the name of the debuff and don’t judge the players who get them. Everyone in the state will know the dynamics

[peak kernel]

I hope the quarterbacks send it to me by mistake 😂

[dense lance]

all those unclaimed biocaps are driving my OCD crazy 🤣

good savings plan, but man that makes part of my brain twitch

[digital glacier]

At 400% training speed, a debuff losses you 19,836 points in svs for every 24 hours
Its not a lot, but it adds up

[wide wraith]

how do you get anything here without buying

[digital glacier]

Rr store, 10
Maybe 20 if you saved tokens. Which won't get you very far. But it'll give you like maybe 25 or 30 uses. Still won't hit 35.

[dense lance]

also the 1 per day for free and you'll get another 12, and the vehicle parts from the rewards will add to it

[timid kelp]

The daily free roll will help too

[wide wraith]

sighs so i am in for more hassle from my governor

[timid kelp]

Ah Auto beat me to it!

[dense lance]

you show up first on my screen

tie!

[timid kelp]

I don't on my own 🤣

[charred swift]

Surely you aren’t the only one in your state who doesn’t buy packs and how would the gov know?

[frigid vault]

The daily free one won't help because it doesn't count

[wide wraith]

it seems like its my alliance who doesnt buy extreme amounts

[timid kelp]

Not every alliance has big spenders and some that don't might be full of people with decent personalities 😊

[worldly sable]

How are they bullying you

[digital glacier]

The free one didn't count.

[digital glacier]

Please dont start this conversation again 🙈

Gov buffs, insults he don't spend enough. Etc. 😂

[worldly sable]

I doubt they care about his spending

Maybe he non stop whines and they find it annoying idk

😂

[wide wraith]

these ones do because they have more money than brain cells

[digital glacier]

Maybe they give you debuff cause you about them.
Then you whine.
So they tell you, spend more 😂

[wide wraith]

but forget it, i am going to watch "Spaceballs"

[digital glacier]

I'm done here. The guy just won't shut up about being bullied in his state.
Honestly if I was going of your state, if probably give you a debuff too for you being annoying 😂

[wide wraith]

maybe you youngsters dont fight for what you believe in but us older people will do

[worldly sable]

Fight for things irl and not how a game state is run maybe

[wide wraith]

been doing that for the last 23 years, joys of being an unpaid carer

and trust me i was calmish

[mighty gorge]

Toxic states with authoritarian dictatorships, who would have thought it

[worldly sable]

I’m a benevolent dictator

[zealous quest]

the new march-setup is total crap for trap. during trap every second pops up a message about a rallye started or troops returned. those messages makes it impossible to choose one of the saved marches.

why is that shifted to top, instead of having this on the left as before??

[digital glacier]

It way on the right

[wide wraith]

you have to wait a few seconds is all, still possibe to get max rewards

[zealous quest]

left, right ... whatever. but top is the worst choise

[dense lance]

in a more active alliance, especially in a state with the march capacity increases from MIGO, a few seconds is the entire window to join a rally

[digital glacier]

Trap preset 4.
Then, other marches, clear, scroll send.

Just do this , so easy

[zealous quest]

because messages are blocking march-choice

[digital glacier]

Or always use preset 4, and just have a smaller march capacity

[zealous quest]

or just put back the march selection on the right ... then there is no conflict

[worldly sable]

Put it on the bottom so we can customize our text 🌚

[midnight vigil]

I agree on the march issue. So annoying, especially during trap. There's several reports on this exact issue in feedback reporting. I suggest upvoting them as much as possible.

[zealous quest]

cool. thanks

[midnight vigil]

Here's one with some upvotes already. Keep upvoting: #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[dense lance]

Also in the new menu limitless (purple brain) Buzz looks even more naughty than before, just saying.

Which is actually sort of an accomplishment.

[sweet copper]

Don't know why mods reposted (in feedback reporting) someone's message complaining about losing a fight with higher stats, it's shouldn't even be there

[woven spire]

Yo

Can they add more in topup

Till like 10.000.00 popup would be great

[stable cosmos]

I haven't used the march presets for trap in ages. The extra tapping to select a march made me miss things. Join, march, next. Yes theres an optimal march but with the amount heroes change I'd have to redo it too frequently as well. Easier to mash the button

[thorny plume]

Barely any diff

I do 500m damage setting with 33 33 33, 500 ish mil damage setting with 60 20 20 and then 550 mil ish damage setting with 0 0 100

So barely any differences

Same when I join, +- same range, tested on same setter more then once

[coarse blaze]

Tbh new presets r not that bad

If u do selection.. game just chose next one.. u don't need to tap it

Leader is my open rally... and my others r set..

It's annoying only if u open fiend rallys

And that u need to set them evry time between events

[thorny plume]

From what to what ?

Im basicly getting more or less same

[tropic echo]

This needs to fixed now,this bubble /tip or whatever prevents the march from sending or adjusting , you need to click the screen for it to vanish then you can either slide your troop count or send a march. Once it is there you can't even send a march,without clicking twice or more if lag or an event like trap is going on

We barely beat our trap due to ppl getting difficulties sending marches or readjusting troops.

Is this really some cruel sick game to the devs

[thorny plume]

Thats a point, we usually have a mixup, but we got the newest ones. Been using Maddie Nicola forever on trap it feels like 😅

[ember mantle]

Did you want to have this submitted as feedback for you? This one posted above by a co mod seems to be the same thing perhaps upvote this one #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[tropic echo]

I upvoted to all the feedback on this and banners but this fix needs to happen ASAP not lasadisical like other issues

[wide cobalt]

They should put the report behind the window it's not complicated...

Or they don't accept they did wrong

[tropic echo]

The frustration felt for trap was the worst today , doing basic things seems to be a headache and not an ounce of enjoyment at all , can't even enjoy a lil chat and do dailies cause of double and triple clicking like I am a click click mouse .
Wham to them

The amount of cuss I wish I can cuss the developers , the devil won't even want me

It is like they ger hard with player 's suffering. Falling in a rose Bush would be more fun than playing this god forsaken game.

[vague shoal]

Are there bots in path of water set up to sabotage? I have lost now 12 straight, dropped from silver 4 back to silver 1. In every game, we have someone not play, or inexplicable people just running around the map never trying to hold buildings, and giving them to opponents

I’ve had 3 matches winning in last minute, holding 3 or 4/5 fortress, and players just leave them and go to a tower, giving them to the other team

[tropic echo]

I notice that to I see some ignoring empty buildings to just go to a tower and chill

[mighty gorge]

I've noticed this also. I just figured it was people being idiots

[vague shoal]

Maybe that it’s it, and I’ve just had extremely bad luck/matchmaking

[woven spire]

Make a leader march and press the fist thing

And press save

Should fix

[tropic echo]

And then the banners block that to either way this needs not to work like this , it takes nothing to stop that tip.
I appreciate the help but by the end of the day the devs need to deliver a march interface that works.
Someone thought his game was buggy not being able to send marches out or adjust

[woven spire]

Banners indeed suck

[dense lance]

tap on the 3 dots next to the fist, it will show your troops by tier, click save, that should make it go away

it's a badly explained tutorial

mine hasn't come back, figured it out during our own trap

[rotund ocean]

the developers suck ..the player ..they want their dollar for Christmas

the game is breaking records in the mediocrity of event rewards. birthday sos=0, resident events, I don't think we can do worse and Christmas events a real fiasco

an overdose of potion and tokens

[fair cobalt]

Is there some thing that you would rather see that I could post as feedback?

[dense lance]

I'd still like a Christmas event where we can buy gifts for our friends instead of just buying bundles for ourselves. The skins giving presents was a nice thing but too short.

[rotund ocean]

miserable rewards, tokens and potion, you are making fun of the players

it's becoming pitiful

[fair cobalt]

That is a great idea

I’m so sorry you feel this way, but I’d love some ideas on how to make it it better that I could post as feedback if you’d like

[rotund ocean]

I don't buy anything anymore, they made us buy gold fragments and they reset the heroes to zero

[dense lance]

Even better would be if they replaced the trap with a christmas tree and ask the alliance gets the presents they pile up, then the thing opens on Christmas day and mails out all the gifts.

[fair cobalt]

You have some really great ideas. Can I send you a private message to talk about them?

[dense lance]

sure

[rotund ocean]

,no compensation for reset heroes except tomatoes

[fair cobalt]

Hello please keep the chat family friendly 😊

[rotund ocean]

that the devs respect the players, that will already be a good thing

we are experiencing the worst moments of the game since sos existed

[fair cobalt]

I understand your frustration I would love to hear some constructive ideas on how to fix it so that you don’t feel that it is the worst😊

[tiny pivot]

Good luck using presets during trap now... haha

[fair cobalt]

This has already been posted in the feedback channel if you wouldn’t mind going and upvoting it 😊

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[rotund ocean]

I'm not at all frustrated...I'll leave the game like the others...SOS commits suicide alone

you are the most greedy in dollars of all the games on the playstore..and the only ones not giving up, to the point that no one can finish the events anymore

the new challenge of alliances and so tough...that no one takes part in it anymore

feeding frenzy 3% of players exceed level 2

it becomes a big fiasco

[tiny pivot]

i just realised the thing you asked me to upvote suggests bringing back old system... dont know if I agree with that...

They just need to put the buttons down the bottom not up the top

[rotund ocean]

and now you have to cook 15 dishes for rewards...we have to send all the devs on vacation

[tiny pivot]

its just a really silly spot to have it

[ember mantle]

Try that one see if it is more inline with what you were thinking

[rotund ocean]

Dev need holidays3

[ember mantle]

Thats being very kind of you

[rotund ocean]

with all the dollars that some people leave...he should leave the games and make way for the next generation

[fair cobalt]

Oh I see. I didn’t realize. I can post different feedback for you if you’d like 😊

[rotund ocean]

SOS birthday, resident, Christmas event, it's the record of fiascos

[ember mantle]

I've liked quite a few of them, but not all aspects of them

[rotund ocean]

take a look at what players post outside of the game...you will understand

[ember mantle]

I think when it comes to events I'm quite happy to not be a rally leader or whale. That allows me to do the parts I enjoy and ignore the ones I do not enjoy, or at least just do the minimum

[tiny pivot]

more like this

[fair cobalt]

Ah ok. I sent you a pm 😊

[rotund ocean]

I bet he pays you in tomatoes, they are so stingy and miserly

[ember mantle]

Honestly Buzz I dislike the new thing but I get why the change is needed now that we have land vehicles but they really need to move it like you said

[ember mantle]

Not an employee so no pay check at all

[tiny pivot]

im not a huge fan myself, but with all the items its hard not to change it. I do like that they fixed it so when launching rally it tries to use plane first not chopper now at least 🙂

[rotund ocean]

They want dollars so much that soon there will be submarines

[tiny pivot]

they can chase the land shark marches

[ember mantle]

If they are a fan we could end up with marine life, say a giant Shrimp

[tropic echo]

Thank you for that but again we should not have to figure it out ir they implement things badly like this. I appreciate that and will click it when I go on but the fact remains this needs to stop , the formation as well need to move and as usual they did something that we had similar problems a while back and has to change but either they have convenient memory or they do this intentionally going against feedback

[tropic echo]

Exactly, is this so hard to do ? Shoild have been like this

[rotund ocean]

all suckers are developers with mods under their belt

[wide wraith]

their should be a way to turn all notifications off even the ones that say rally launched

[pastel grove]

I agree turning off announcements would be helpful

[ember mantle]

I've never met a developer Aghnar and I definitely am not in here for them. I chose to be a mod so I could help players in some small ways yes, but still help

[pastel grove]

This had been a pay to win game I dont agree with the special resonating heros

It makes it difficult for lower spenders that are rally leads to compete.

Devs and mods are completely different

Some spend way to much but it is what it is

[ember mantle]

Again never had access to them, cant tell them anything other than by sending feedback. I am more than happy to send some feedback for you if you like

[pastel grove]

Raising the max moral to 500 is a crazy change as well

[tiny pivot]

side note, it lets you select a different plane type in the formations saving section but it just switches to the last one used when actually using them

[pastel grove]

The 300 max was alright buy 500 is ridiculous

[tiny pivot]

it makes little difference 10 vs 300 or 10 vs 500 is the same result

[pastel grove]

I wasn't sure how much of a difference it made to be honest

I play and enjoy the game knowing fair well if u want to compete you have to pay

I would happily create a game that didn't require as much spending but I dont have those connections

[buoyant charm]

Even if you set up marches in advance, pop-up messages [loudspeaker, creating weapons, items from the box
events] block the interface, and time is wasted....😓

[tiny pivot]

who ever has the higher morale (be it by 1 or by 499) gets a 12% boost

[buoyant charm]

😓

[pastel grove]

Thank you mine is only 122 and I focus on sets to increase moral but hero final damage and other stuff seems more important

[tiny pivot]

the only thing the change in morale does from 300 to 500 is so whales can outspend each other to get the morale advantage.. the rest of us plebs will lose the morale race either way 🥹

[mighty gorge]

I'll have you know, I'm a mid class pleb🤣

[pastel grove]

If I spent what the whales did I would feel awful
I spend strategically focusing on certain stuff

[tiny pivot]

if I spent what the whales did I would have 4 more cars in my garage

[pastel grove]

I rather enjoy vacations im at few hundred a week outside of holiday events 🙃

I gave up on special heros im not dropping 4k for a special hero competing against wallets

We have supreme and toshi in our migo range

[mighty gorge]

Those 4 cars are just pocket change to whales

[tiny pivot]

why stop half way go the full 50K on the Angelica replacement

[pastel grove]

I prefer enjoying life and spending where it matters like helping others

I spend enough to be a rally lead and compete
Even spending its a strategy

Toshi was dumb enough to rally my base once

[fleet kestrel]

Hi Yulia, we are forwarding feedback on this.. have you voted on the feedback already raised here #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[stable cosmos]

Morale isn't worth chasing unless you're top of the heap. As its an on off thing. If you have more, set bonus is in play. If you have less. No bonus. It doesn't increment based on how much you have, and should NOT do that.

My only complaint is 12% is way too much. Should be 2%

Should be a game of small margins. Cos then its about strategy. That means small numbers not great big ones

[real gazelle]

Hey chief , have you tried submitting your feedback in our feedback reporting channel? I am sure more people would agree with you

[stable cosmos]

Nope cos i know its something they won't change.

[bitter bane]

I made a feedback about king of the hill matchmaking and alliance teaming 🫠 would be happy if you gave it a bump

[fleet kestrel]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

here you go Bus, linked it for you

[spare summit]

its pretty much because they use their 1~2 server to host multiple games, overlap the event with other games and u will have multiple game lag/ unplayable complaints all at once

cheapskate as always 🤣

[stable cosmos]

I had a look at their revenue for other games and honestly, if you're making millions, put some more of it back in and improve things and you might get even more because people would consider recommending a stable game to others. I actively tell people NOT to play this if they ask

[unreal lichen]

I've curated your points and drafted a feedback. If you like it, please feel free to upvote 😇
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[dense lava]

Formation window. I dont know for the rest but trap is impossible to play now. The banners from multiple chats, the rally open::troops arrive::troops back notifications completely cover the formation selection so we cant join trap rallies.

[warm phoenix]

Hi chief, you can post this awesome suggestion into #📋︱feedback-reporting using this form

Observation: 
 [this is the issue / topic or event you are considering in this feedback]

Consequence: 
[How does it impact you, your alliance or the player base - negative or positive]

Suggested Solution: 
[If needed, what change could lead to a positive outcome]

State number
[fill in your state number here]```

[calm bolt]

hello i agree 100% with Conica, is impossible to choose correct formation for trap. What's more

[fleet kestrel]

adding to Destroyer, you can also vote on the feedback already submitted for this here #📋︱feedback-reporting message there are quite a few posts expressing the same

[calm bolt]

we can not see how many troops we have, and what is interesting, i can create formation of troops, with troops are not more in my settlement. when i send all troops aways for example occupy, i still can create formation with full of soldiers. Yesterday to create correct formation fot trap, i took pencil and piece of paper to write down number of troops i still have for 3 formation. Please do something with it, improve, or give people option to choose game before upgrading, and after upgrading. Icons (standard 1, standard 2 ect) should be much lower so any banner can not cover them, information of number of troops in settlement, and something that player can not create formation if dont have troops in settlements any more.

[dense lava]

We do this for a long time: select tile to occupy with camp -> create and save formation -> send march out to camp. Do same with next formation. That way you can use only troops u have in hq

[calm bolt]

Conica i did that way before upgrading, after upradin it does not work like that. belive me

send all infantry away, and look on formation page

Conica you did not notice becasue probably you have so big number of troops, but i dont have not enouh hunters to fill all 3 formation, for example i have 100k hunters. so i create 2 formation, every formation 50k hunters. next i send 1,2, formation away occupy, i do back to settlement, trining camp and i create 3 formation with next 50k hunters, i save. next send them occupy and the game show me that i can not send becasue i dont have hunters. so how i save them in 3 formation

[dense lava]

Damn.. il check. Still didnt do preset formations..it was logical it stayed the same

[calm bolt]

no is not the same,

[main urchin]

The gambling system is very fair and of course absolutely not manipulated. Most of the players play the code of their own state. Interestingly, the numbers in which states pay the most into the event win more times.

[wide wraith]

like most things in this game, its fixed

[stable cosmos]

Most? All.

[terse agate]

Random number generator?
Yeah right…..
Let’s call it that and manipulate it.

[hollow pebble]

which amateur made the new march screen? it's a disaster

and that person should be fired right away

[junior nest]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

We can keep upvoting this

[hollow pebble]

but it's about a pop up screen

not the march screen itself

[junior nest]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[stable cosmos]

And nobody ever asked for that screen to change. Be more responsive yes. Give us some extra march slots yes. Change the whole dang thing? No.

[junior nest]

This, you mean ?

[stable cosmos]

What we want we never get. What we get we don't want. Or at least doesn't match what we'd like in the slightest and always comes with a massive downside

[junior nest]

The only positive thing I saw in this change is now, when I save a march for gathering, I do not need to delete aircraft all the time

[hollow pebble]

No, it's about a banner

that whole screen itself is the biggest issue here, IT SHOULDN"T BE CHANGED AT ALL

[junior nest]

If you want you can submit it as a feedback in same chanel

[wintry talon]

Come on why did they change the location of these buttons, it's so annoying to have the victory/defeat notification over them

[junior nest]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message
Upvote here if u agree with it ofc

[wintry talon]

Thanks 🙏

[junior nest]

My pleasure

[hollow pebble]

Nah, pointless, this new march screen is already another example, we ask A, we get Z

[steel musk]

It's already reported.. just move it back to right

not that hard to fix tho

[steel musk]

this feedback.. no need remove notifications ( banner) as suggest there .. some use it during MM

could remove it also 🤔

[bitter bane]

Big thanks!

[marble grove]

So do we not get an upgradable christmas tree this year?!

[grim steppe]

it looks like unfortunately no

[marble grove]

But we can get given 17 skins?!

[ebon linden]

Are you still looking for more things to upgrade?

[marble grove]

17 skins to upgrade < 1 tree

[grim steppe]

Well I have already a lot xmas trees

[marble grove]

I think I maxed the 2 before, but the first gave best bonus out of any decoration 100k instant healing was good... but you can see by Christmas events alone how far the games gone downhill 😂

[ebon linden]

To be fair, the tree is useful… if I remember to activate it 😆

[grim steppe]

yes, it's true that the Christmas tree is useful, but the cooldown is long 😂

[marble grove]

When you hit enlistment, use it so no need to change from war for 2 more hits

[marble grove]

Once a week? So you can do cc/svs/rr with it 👀

[ebon linden]

14 days cooldown, right?

I’ll check…

[grim steppe]

14 days.. yes

[marble grove]

Unless you have 50k 14 days which is 1 from max

[ebon linden]

Yep, 14 days

[marble grove]

Then why does mine say 7👀

Hospital capicity tree is useless with 1m hospitals now 😂

[ebon linden]

I was about to complain also

[marble grove]

Hmm may 100k 14d is 1 from max 😂

[ebon linden]

[marble grove]

Maybe one day I'll have enough troops to fill enlistment cap 😂

[marble grove]

Still cc+svs

[ebon linden]

I don’t even have half that number lol

My troops don’t live long haha

[marble grove]

Enlistment cap or troops?

[grim steppe]

3.5 mln you must have been hit hard...

[ebon linden]

Troops

[ebon linden]

Good eye!

I still join rallies even though becca is waving I just close my eyes 🫣

[marble grove]

Only been zeroed twice both times with less troops, I 1.5x my size since my last zero and this is most troops I ever had 😂

The zeroing made me lose less troops than I make myself lose 😂

[ebon linden]

Gosh

[marble grove]

I've seen 4b+ players with lower stats than these 😜

[ebon linden]

Is zeroing still a thing? 😳

I mean, even in older states?

[grim steppe]

[ebon linden]

[grim steppe]

But 55 mln crazy....

[marble grove]

Well, I was zeroed twice one during a 9 month war because I fell asleep for 4h with 2h left on shield 😂 came back to tile hit them while zeroed 😂

Then 2nd was just before our newest merge as the player was "quiting" now spending more than ever 😂 so yes it is 😂

[ebon linden]

How dare you sleep!

[marble grove]

Troops are made to die, I would happily lose 400-500k in ke to burn 1 player 😂

[marble grove]

I didnt mean to, just passed out waiting for shield to drop so I could burn again 😂

[ebon linden]

Gosh, I mean, I don’t mind losing troops…. But it’s hard to start over if you have none

Hard to not fill one rally

[marble grove]

People never thought to check how many you had when you just burnt a ton of people 😂 scouting can turn dangerous 😜

[ebon linden]

Lol

[marble grove]

But it was so much fun when everyone was small 😂

[ebon linden]

They say a recon is an invitation 😏

[marble grove]

My 9 month war with #1 alliance in old state started over a scout 😂

[ebon linden]

I know a lot of feuds because of recons lol

I used to hate it

[mighty gorge]

👀

[ebon linden]

Then sending 1 troop attack became a thing

I get like 15 attacks in 30mins

[ebon linden]

Hey you

[marble grove]

There was a bit before hand, but then I gave them the option to just leave me alone or... Well war 😂

1 member who didn't speak much scouted me, I woke up and saw that it was game on 😂😂

[mighty gorge]

Hey Miss Mod 😬 😊

[ebon linden]

I think it’s the first time I’ve been called Miss Mod lol

So formal

[marble grove]

And this was over a year into state I was 600m player vs 1.8b players and their alliance 😂

[mighty gorge]

I formally request the presence of your Moddingness, Mod Ability

[marble grove]

But back to reason I came here give us our 2023 Christmas tree!

[mighty gorge]

Christmas Tree's? Wait. I just realised, we dont' have one

I want a tree!

[marble grove]

You get 17 skins to upgrade though, is this not enough?! 😂

[ebon linden]

You speak like the queen now?😅

[ebon linden]

Stop asking for stuff lol

[mighty gorge]

Could be a little difficult given the Queen is no longer with us lol

[ebon linden]

Oh right!

[mighty gorge]

I want two trees. I want it to be a Treemendous Tree

With glass baubles, filled with unicorns

and cats with uzi's

[marble grove]

Or... wild one, make the first tree upgradable from 100k to 500k 😂

I know they love their new skin teir system

[ebon linden]

Does the tree still help with all the new features and all? Asking for a friend lol

[mighty gorge]

and RNG Tree, you get a randomly generated tree ranging from a dead branch, to one that looks like it should be outside a NY park. The dead branch has an 85% probability

[marble grove]

It drops presents with free gifts every so often 😂

[ebon linden]

After TD, I’m not gonna mess with anything lol

[ebon linden]

Well, mine is late!

[marble grove]

You gotta buy each leaf/bristle whatever they are called on a Christmas tree 😂

[marble grove]

It's because they haven't given us one yet! 😂

[mighty gorge]

Bundles which contain needles and pine cones?

[marble grove]

Itll be a 1 day purchase on Christmas day for 5k

[marble grove]

Got to buy the seed and water it too

[ebon linden]

Blah blah blah blah… I’m not hearing this 🙉

[mighty gorge]

You could become MOD.Creature of the Tree

[marble grove]

Oh I know our Christmas present, we all got a car!

[ebon linden]

That’s your last joke

[mighty gorge]

I see Miss Mod, you're exerting your powers of responsibility. My jokes are not 'community worthy' lol

[ebon linden]

ehem

[marble grove]

But im gonna be one of those sweet 16 brats, "BUT MOM, I DIDNT WANT THIS CAR!"

[ebon linden]

I got uno reverse card there lol

[vale yoke]

[mighty gorge]

Uh Oh, here's trouble

[vale yoke]

[mighty gorge]

[vale yoke]

That feels good to hear lol

Tbh

[ebon linden]

Heya Lianin!

[vale yoke]

Usually people just go, "Oh gawd"

Nessssyyyyy

[ebon linden]

How are youuuu????

[mighty gorge]

Well Miss L. I for one never say 'Oh Gawd'. I might secretely think, ""Whats Next" or "What did I do now" but never Oh Gawd.

[vale yoke]

Day off, so already halfbaked, half-caf, and thinking of which games to play

[fleet kestrel]

Could never be half caf

[vale yoke]

You're one of my favorite people, Cerberus. Don't worry lol

[ebon linden]

I’m working today boo

[mighty gorge]

We just decided that Nessy is changing her name to Creature of the Tree. We just need some ideas over what kind of creature.

[vale yoke]

Hey Puck!

[fleet kestrel]

Sighs. This colors ridiculous.. if only they’d change it

[ebon linden]

Hi boss! are we too loud?

[vale yoke]

Hang on, I know what she is. Gimme a sec to check the name

[fleet kestrel]

Good Morning. As for car! I’m sure they have some zombie pinto wheels around

[ebon linden]

Groot might be jealous of me lol

[fleet kestrel]

Nah I’ve been lol

[mighty gorge]

I always think I should shorten Purifier to PoE, but the problem with that is PoE is Power over Ethernet. Doesn't really work.

[vale yoke]

She's a Spriggan

[ebon linden]

Why is this scaring me a bit?

[vale yoke]

Google it lol

You'll love me

[ebon linden]

Oh Liannin… you know I need to google this 😅

[mighty gorge]

I need to put some feedback in please Nessy.

PoE, needs to give you a Biocap rise.

[fleet kestrel]

If I had that power I 💯 would

[mighty gorge]

With great power, comes great responsibility.

[ebon linden]

For this???

“Noun. spriggan (plural spriggans) In Cornish folklore, a malicious spirit in the form of a wizened old man”

[vale yoke]

No, I can't name the game but look up Bethesda

It's specific to a franchise I can't name per server rules

[ebon linden]

What do you need? ☺️

[vale yoke]

PoE Biocap raise? How much? Percentage or flat rate?

[mighty gorge]

I was thinking more like Dryad

[vale yoke]

You think???

Earth Mother lol

[ebon linden]

Ok let’s pause this before we say anything else lol

[vale yoke]

on mute

[mighty gorge]

Tree Nymph

[ebon linden]

Aw I like it

When did the conversation turned into making me into a tree? 😅

[mighty gorge]

Dryad, in Greek mythology, a nymph or nature spirit who lives in trees and takes the form of a beautiful young woman. Dryads were originally the spirits of oak trees (drys: “oak”), but the name was later applied to all tree nymphs. It was believed that they lived only as long as the trees they inhabited.

[mighty gorge]

At least I didn't make you into a malicious spirit lol

[ebon linden]

Oh that’s nice I was more bothered with the wizened old man

You said you have a feedback?

[tropic talon]

So....Reservoir Raid

our opponenets 1st picked time is 14 UTC

OUR 1st picked time is 14 UTC

and we get 12 UTC

Why would the game do this?

[slender merlin]

The rr matchmaking score glitch + weird time nobody asked for + terrible UI made it worst rr ever, terrible experience.

[tropic talon]

it is even better when our opponents 1st picked time is 14 and our is 14 and we get 18 UTC 🙂

[tropic talon]

totally agree

we lost like 4 matches in a row, because we never get our 1st picked time

and our players can't participate

[thorn axle]

The time choosing system is terrible imo so I totally agree with you. Would you like to make some feedback on it in #📋︱feedback-reporting ?

[pallid willow]

😠😠 add a long @ss cooldown time for people who don’t accept matches in pow already 😠😠

[thorn axle]

Oh I feel you here. People back to back cancelling their pow matches drives me insane. Would you like to send this as feedback? If so I will need your ign and state number

[mighty gorge]

To give you a pay rise was my feedback lol

[mighty gorge]

The fact that there are forced time windows is idiotic anyway. The old system was much better. Its just laziness because they cant' figure out a way to solve matching problems

[ebon linden]

[hollow wasp]

How about we nerf the mines

I can't beat level 8s or 9s

Fully maxed plane and red heroes don't even touch it

You need to be a rally lead to beat them

[mighty gorge]

^^ Same @hollow wasp

[keen quiver]

Any update from dwv on when they will revert the dumb changes made to troops formation/selection?

[dusk blaze]

Hi, this has already been reported here: #📋︱feedback-reporting message

Feel free to upvote that post

[thorny hornet]

The biggest issue with the new screen is the placement of the troop formation buttons and the fact that they keep getting covered up by all notification messages. An easy fix would be to give the troop selection screen the highest possible z-index, so that nothing can be displayed on top of it.

[dusk blaze]

No word as of yet but if anything comes out it will be posted in the official channels such as #⭐︱game_information , etc.

Hopefully changes will be made soon

[dusk blaze]

I completely agree with you and it has been posted here and upvoted by many other players: #📋︱feedback-reporting message

Feel free to upvote the post too. s

[thorny hornet]

complaining is fine. i propose an easy fix. alter z-index of troop selectin screen to be on top of everything else. devs obviously don't play the game, or they never would have made a basic mistake in ui, so instead of a reversion or changing screen around, just make sure nothing else has a higher z-index and is able to appear above the selection screen. 1 minute fix for devs

[hollow wasp]

Thanks I doubt they will change. But I appreciate it

[dense lance]

the likelihood that they'll change it is directly proportionate to how loudly we complain about it!

[unreal lichen]

Or maybe just make it so it doesn’t take up the whole screen I cannot see the clock or the chat which will make timing double/ghost rallies very difficult

[timid kelp]

This really... The more upvoted the feedback is, the greater chance of it being looked into

[steel musk]

yes and more chance on "devs will ignore it"

devs don't care
here an example

keep upvote to be dumb.. when devs 100% don't care and laugh

but they will fix formation system thing tho.. i guess
They just delay it. so players will complaint about it and forgot others bugs and futures they add ..
If think not that, then look on feedback reporting channel it's all about.. can't chose formation and notifications

too many feedback about new formation system

also it's too easy to fix.. if they wanted fix it

[dense lance]

I had a lot more agreement with that before the rest of us got jumped up to having 13 to 16 all at once. I think it would be better to make that change but only if there was some kind of accommodation. We're getting matched with natural gen 16 states for different activities and I just don't think there's currently an answer that doesn't involve either free stuff (which they're resisting hard) or maybe the change someone suggested where there are 2 panels for gen 16 and 2 panels for gen 13-15 and they're 1 and 5 respectively. In my alliances I'm trying to help coordinate the F2P players to get 1 set of a halfway decent march and 1 generation 16 and 2 corresponding heroes from 13-15 is their best chance, if they made Ray's gen 16 only it would hurt those people a lot. I know it stinks for the people who had gen 15 and currently have gen 16, but it really stunk to suddenly be a gen 16 state and see people with green behemoths massacre you with gen 13-15 heroes that had clearly had some time put in. I don't think there is a good solution that doesn't involve bringing back something like Age of Outreach and I don't think they're willing to do that. We're being told that our compensation is that special bundles are available for gen 13 to 15, bundles that contain only capsules and no potions.

[dense lance]

To add to that, since the point of us being jumped up to 16 was to help the gen 16 states get matches, as far as anybody can tell, I don't think running separate versions of Ray's Place would really help.

[tidal apex]

For real what a joke.... There is holiday stream and released codes are limited because they cant even let all players grab that little reward 🤣

[steel musk]

they could make it gen 13 - 16

[steel musk]

so who want old gen he could get them and who want new gen he could get them also

[dense lance]

They could, but that would make it easier for folks with gen 13, 14 and 15 that they had time put in get ahead more, still. I think this is the compromise that the dev team is willing to give us and it stinks.

[steel musk]

fair enough

[dense lance]

Basically getting 3 gen 16s seems to be most valuable to complement the gen 13 to 15 sets (with each gen 16 replacing 1 gen 13 to 15 hero)

Our folks will be lucky to get 1 of those in decent shape. I do think they should revert to the old Ray's format with Gen 17

Also I'd really love it if they delayed gen 17 to give us all time to catch our breath.

I'd also like a pony and I don't think that's happening either.

[woven spire]

More chance they speed then delay😂

Need some more revenue before 2024

After that they will kill game completly

[worn pewter]

The POW exploit is getting old af

[tidal apex]

Rays change is dumb. There are thousands of ways to give players more fragments but they fail to see any because all they can think about is money money money. Their main solution is put more discounted packs as if it solves everything....

Easiest fix ever for states that skipped hero generations? Make rays place give triple rewards....
Triple rewards for milestones, so they get gen 13,14 and 15 fragments in there and same for landing on frags on a wheel. For each x1 they get one fragment of gen13, 14 and 15, so 3 frags total.

Same for x5.

Same thing should apply to all events for some time, svs, bloodsport.

This is easiest fix ever and it lets people decently upgrade heroes. Sadly it will never happen.

Why? Because their solution is discounted packs, they never even tried solving the problem with gameplay related stuff.

[dense lance]

Exactly, if they'd been even willing to send us some kind of alternate items that didn't give SVS/etc. points for use on gen 13 to 15 only I would have preferred the normal ray's place format, but everything about the gen 16 rollout from the heroes clearly being designed to replace a single gen 13 to 15 hero to Ray's placec feels like gen 16 was designed for this

[worn pewter]

start hitting players with cooldowns to join pow if they forcefully leave queue or repeatedly let timer run down, this exploit is rubish

[dense lance]

Amen. They show us heroes are less valuable when instead of lasting for maybe 6 to 9 months as a gradual third to fourth march, then they expect us to buy them.

[still tapir]

Can’t do that. That would be crazy. Gen 18 will likely drop in the middle of RRL Doomsday. Only way they delay gen 18 is because Doomsday is delayed

[worn pewter]

I have solo grinded to plat3 and can't even get into a match at this point because everyone of there is there by exploit

[dense lance]

do any of us think they won't release a new paid feature with RRL Doomsday? 🤔

perfect time for gen 18 🤣

[odd temple]

does this really need to always be in the way when trying to launch a rally for trap?

[dense lance]

if you had to pick between gen 18 and another behemoth, I know what I'd pick...

[tidal apex]

What do you mean by exploit? People trying to match against their farm account to have 1 less opponent to worry about? Or is there something more?

[still tapir]

Oh much like last Doomsday they will release some new overpowering feature before the finals begin. Maybe the unicorn behemoth

[unreal lichen]

Erm think that’s what tanks are meant to be

[dense lance]

FP+ releases Unicorn Behemoth. It's super effective! Auto is broke!

[tidal apex]

Tanks are too early, there will be something more :p

[tidal apex]

Just to force people to spend few thousands just before the finals or they will loose if their opponents decided to spend.

[dense lance]

my prediction is that something will come out in the middle/late event just when people are doing good and desperate to win

[still tapir]

Oh super annoyed I can see tanks in any report or at least I think I can’t

[tidal apex]

I am thinking we will see p15 soon, personally I would love if they just stopped adding more plasma levels but we all know how it is here...

[woven spire]

Nah they add troop tier first

[still tapir]

No might be an update of some kind for tanks but I’m sure it will be Red Tempest Arms actually. They’ve already said it’s coming so why not durning knockout rounds of Doomsday

[dense lance]

P15, a third actual behemoth, a new aircraft, new generation of heroes, T13 troops, something to get an edge up on the opponent or at least maintain equal footing

[woven spire]

Nah wait for dd😂

[dense lance]

the ability to bejazzle existing tempest arms would be hilarious

[tidal apex]

They love releasing new overpowered features during "league". Make them nice $$ because people desperate to win will buy all packs related to new feature.

Love how KG is pretending as if RR league or KotH league is some sort of e-sport here when 95% of outcome is based on which side spent more 🤣

[still tapir]

Well every RRL has new heroes drop in the middle both new gens and resonating heroes plus new tech during the final 8. Last time was MK2

[unreal lichen]

Yep I mean we had one set and then behemoth set what’s next

[dense lance]

exactly, so "We can't delay gen 18 because of RRL" really doesn't work when it's going to happen like that somehow no matter what.

[worn pewter]

i mean people are filling 2 teams and alternating lossing and winning

[unreal lichen]

Why not you can dress your behemoth

[dense lance]

I support making things sparkle

[unreal lichen]

I can’t gif in this channel 🤭

[worn pewter]

The queue until they can tell based off the how many have confirmed that they are against their own team

if they are not they cancel queue or let time run down

[dense lance]

I also really want accessories. Give me a little top hat, monocle and a scarf for my T rex, darnit.

[worn pewter]

hence, exploit

[tidal apex]

Thanks, did not think people were doing it that way.... Must be why finding the game takes as long as playing one because so many times someone do not accept

[worn pewter]

most people in platnium or above are

more than half the people in plat or above can't win to get there

[still tapir]

I need something useful like longer robot arms🤷‍♂️

[dense lance]

Agreed but only if he can hold a little hanky in one and blow his noses while he tears up the other side.

He can't have the hanky without the robot arms, it would just be sad.

[tidal apex]

Monocle of destruction- +2% behemoth dmg, Slippers of fury- +5% behemoth hp etc.

[dense lance]

Animate it with an eye laser! And the slippers can be fuzzy bunnies, also with eye lasers. Eye lasers are cool, that's Science.

[tidal apex]

Ranks are only to gate rewards. They do not mean anything else. Diamond players play against iron etc.. I am weak and was managing to crawl to diamond before state merge. Now cant do it because most of the games are against whale teams

[dense lance]

This chart shows it, it was made by a very serious looking woman in a lab coat with a pen in her mouth who was frowning intensely.

[tidal apex]

Must be true then, one of the most trustworthy sources, just above someone saying "trust me bro" :p

[lost slate]

This new March window is terrible, can’t really adjust the sliders fast in RR, if froze my screen once, makes me slow, not wanna play this game like this, get the old one back with the percentage bar that worked, thx.

[carmine horizon]

I totally agree. This new march window was horrible during RR. I can't imagine what it will be like with MM. Bugging, lagging and windows I didn't click on popping up for no reason. VOTE for old March screen back. We don't need this new vehicle being pushed. What the hell!!!

[tame lintel]

What was so bad about it?

I like it

[carmine horizon]

Windows popping up and big time lagging between screens.

[tame lintel]

Hmm. I didn't have that.

[trim hornet]

Hello ❤️
You can upvote this feedback report if you choose it.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[carmine horizon]

Please do. Thank you.

[trim hornet]

Your welcome🤗

[strong seal]

What an amazing formation system we got, straight from hell during trap......the tool tips is annoying like ....

[trim hornet]

Hello MadJoker!🤗
If you choose it you can upvote here on this topic.#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[dense lance]

tap on the 3 dots next to the fist to open the little menu, save your selection, close and re-open the attack window and you should see it's gone

it's a very not obvious tutorial, so it's making you click twice

(I'm not defending it, just telling you how to make it go away)

these 3 dots

[strong seal]

yes got that far, but does not solve that i dont get to the selection of march during trap when 30 messages appear which covers the march selection. such things, should get detected when tested and this is not tested for sure

[dense lance]

you're 100% right about that

[strong seal]

either one of the behemoth coded it, or i have no other words about that for KG devs....

[dense lance]

oh it's easy, they made it and then they tested it without other people rallying and they just spaced out on how in some activities there's way too many notifications. my fervent hope is they decided not to change the menu and instead give us a way to turn those silly things off

make the screen flash or something during the first 5 seconds of a rally, red for hostile and blue for friendly, way better and doesn't cause problems with the rest of the UI, it's been annoying for a long time if you're trying to change tabs in your mail or do a few other things

[strong seal]

the issue is that the whole formation screen is far too big....and needs to be smaller and that couldnt be an issue to move it to the right position that the notification message gets into the way of the formation screen...

[dense lance]

it's also a global problem where app developers use the top center of an app as an active space despite phones generally serving notifications there

the bottom would also work out pretty well, yup

[spark wren]

greetings

[dense lance]

not the no no zone at the top

[dense lance]

hola

[spark wren]

i would recommend you to put that in #📋︱feedback-reporting if you havent already because during trap the new march screen made me unable to use my set marches 😅

[dense lance]

I know moving the thing in the menu is in a few places but I can put a suggestion about notifications in general

[spark wren]

if you need help with writing a report i can help you but if you want to write it the format is pinned in #📋︱feedback-reporting and its also in #📋︱feedback-how-to ^^

[dense lance]

there ya go

[harsh owl]

With the Chinese New Year approaching, I feel we need Fu Dog sentinels.

Year of the Dragon sentinels would also be nice.

Thank you

[lost slate]

Maybe if you only use the fixed marches it’s ok, if you play on the fly selecting troops with sliders it’s horror

[tidal apex]

Thats the only kind of feedback they actually listen to

They will put them as main prize for a 5 million top up :p

[stable cosmos]

Yeah. Ask for stuff they can charge for and theres a good chance it goes in. Look what happened with statues. People said they liked the nanami one and we get swamped with the damn things. They had to give us a junk heap to put them on

[unreal lichen]

That’s a feedback that could be submitted to the team over in #📋︱feedback-reporting if you have a chance !

[unreal lichen]

Sounds like a bargain

Kidding

[viscid ore]

I ask for a friend, but won't one chance a day be too much?
I would reduce it to once a week!!
This new feature has really created a lot of enthusiasm in everyone, but a free shot a day seems really excessive to me!!

[steel musk]

Devs : we liked your feedback and will reduction it to once a week

[tidal apex]

Looking how they expect people to use 500 tries in a single event now they are fully aware how many tries are needed to get anything decent. Propably 5k tries minimum 🤣

[steel musk]

their bots already maxed it

[tidal apex]

Normal game when there is new feature there will also be events that rewards stuff for it.

SoS we just have event that expect us to use new stuff but no way to get it besides $ packs

[steel musk]

it changed..
before was 1 mil in settlement could save f2p..
now + 30 mil can't save f2p if whale attacked them

200 k beat 30 mil..

[tidal apex]

It got to the point that I am pretty sure you could give full f2p even 200 mln troops and he would still burn from single hit from biggest whales

[steel musk]

battle report broken

[tidal apex]

Because their dumb battle calculation gives nearly no weight to troop count

[steel musk]

they should fix that but ya they don't care about that

that how was battle report before Behemoth, formation system, limitless

they just ruined the game

they changed it and made troops mean nothing

here stats also

and still 1 mil won

but all that changed when they added Behemoth, formation system, limitless

with vehicles i am sure it will be more worse

If troops don't matter, they could remove troops and let us play Behemoth and formation system only.. when join rally, etc

no need troops

[winter canyon]

Because combat moral doesn't mean s*** without behemoth/airplane/limitless

[steel musk]

before combat morale they were could zero 30 mil also

[winter canyon]

6 months ago it was possible for f2p to survive with 3 million

[steel musk]

it changed after Behemoth.. and every time they add new thing it get worse.. so yep with combat morale it's way worse

[winter canyon]

Behemoth alone can't burn millions of troops... but combined with all the stuff they added in the past 6 months, you will burn

[steel musk]

depends on attacker if he maxed Behemoth and upgraded ultra skills also or he just whale ( not maxed)

[steel musk]

yes Behemoth could burn millions of troops..
for example.. intel task.. it's almost 20k infected and maxed Behemoth.. did f2p could win by 200k?

when infected had Behemoth only

[winter canyon]

The intel has 15K stats

No whale has that

[steel musk]

how many troops?

problem can't test 😂
need full march to send Behemoth..
If could send with 1 troop then f2p attack it with full march.. It will be lose for f2p 100%

[winter canyon]

It's because the battle lasted over 100 turns (due to the damn intel troops having 15K HP stats) giving behemoth much more time to kill your troops

[steel musk]

15k is nothing..
it's just Behemoth

[thorn axle]

A lot of talk here, do y’all have some feedback for me?

[tidal apex]

Its combination of everything now. Gorilla, dinosaur and formation system that both kill enemy troops and protect/revive dead friendly troops. Small skills in statues that when being just one skill might not matter much but when whale have 8 it changes a LOT. Tempest arms with another set of skills, tanks another new skills

[steel musk]

i don't have, thanks

[tidal apex]

When you add up everything together along with special operators whale will have like 30 more skills than f2p. That alone just decimates enemy

[steel musk]

i need way to test maxed Behemoth with 1 troop vs f2p has full march 😂

[winter canyon]

Behemoths get oneshot by troops

The battle would last 2 turns lol

[steel musk]

will see when i find way to test that 👀

also with formation

[winter canyon]

Not sure if they fixed this invincible behemoth bug that sometimes appears, but without bug the behemoth get oneshot by troops

[tidal apex]

Unless you send in infantry only :p lost few hundred k on one svs when farming rss before I noticed they kept on dying :p

It was sending full infantry only by default because it was my only t11 troop back then 🤣

[winter canyon]

Just look at a battle report where you win a defense

[steel musk]

System

[tame lintel]

Try both sending at same farm..
Bounce? Or hit?

[thorn axle]

If no one is wanting to provide feedback could we move over to #🆘︱sos_discussion so other mods can see feedback that needs to be submitted

Cerb don’t laugh at meh

[viscid ore]

🤣🤣🤣

[steel musk]

need whale have zero troops with maxed Behemoth... but ya there is one.. I forgot what was his name

[viscid ore]

For sure!!🤣🤣🤣

[tidal apex]

There was feedback about wanting to reduce free tank chances to once per week. I am sure devs will happily listen to that one

[thorn axle]

[steel musk]

I will upvote for that

[winter canyon]

Please stop putting F2P in the same matchmaking as maxed whales

[thorn axle]

Dr mundo is that you?

[winter canyon]

Feedback

[thorn axle]

May I have your ign and state Elizabeth?

[mighty gorge]

Most of the discussions here are a result of a bad implementation, which generally result in formal feedback. This is how feedback is generated.

[thorn axle]

Ya but to@make it easier for us we follow the format in #📋︱feedback-how-to , a lot of chatter in between makes it a difficult

[tidal apex]

How are your behemoths only 39% worse? It is more like -60% if not even more. Their calculation is sketchy, no wonder matching never works properly 🤣

[tame lintel]

Shhhh don't discuss feedback in the feedback discussion channel....it makes their job hard

[thorn axle]

Loobz exposing me now

[mighty gorge]

I'm just chalking it up to lack of experience.

[steel musk]

If watch report, his Behemoth kill other Behemoth less than 10 rounds...

don't know how rounds pow didn't look before tho.. i mean it's way less than half

[mighty gorge]

Is this from RR?

[winter canyon]

path of water

[steel musk]

pow

[tame lintel]

Meh. Random...I dont see how you can complain except for teams vs solo

[tidal apex]

Sometimes you can win if it is only one whale and you have 3 bombers. Problem is it just loves making extremely unfair matchups.

Even when not matched against team had so many games where my team had one whale, enemy team had 2 and they were both stronger than mine....

[winter canyon]

It's ridiculous when the weakest of one team is stronger than the strongest of the other

Why would anyone even try in such a situation

You only have 4 bombs and if the enemy team has 5 whales you can do nothing

[tame lintel]

For u to know that. Sounds like your on a team.

[tidal apex]

Also I noticed funny thing that is strange yet consistent. When I play PoW during the day I loose way more matvhes than I win, I am dropping down in ranks. When I play in the middle of the night part of PoW suddenly I am winning way more than loosing and climbing up.

[tame lintel]

Imo. The only valid complaint in pow is that teams should have a separate matching pool than solo players

[mighty gorge]

The thing is with PoW is that I doubt there would ever be a perfect solution unless its team on team. There are too many factors, from the people that play, to how you get your match. I never personally had an issue with PoW, mostly because I stopped (or rather never) cared for the ranking.

[tidal apex]

It kept on working that way for me for few days now

[tame lintel]

Exactly. And the moment you do that. Noone will play teams except the krakens

[winter canyon]

They can match according to march strength

So 100m player don't have to fight 300m...

[mighty gorge]

And what happens when the match times out, because you can't find someone?

[tame lintel]

Sure. Start scheduling fights

[steel musk]

they could make it as last time.. auto formation selected ( can't change it) and no Behemoth.. It will give you balance matchmaking every time

[tame lintel]

Yes. Making everyone with same power is another tactic. But that makes their biggest financial support (the krakens) unhappy.

[tidal apex]

Thing is all power or skill based games have problem with matching. You can make fair matching for 99% of players if you try to but top 1% of most powerfull or most skilled in case of other games would need to have extremely long queue times if it tries to find them matching opponents. Because there are so few of them. Thats why best players in the world in popular moba games can have 40 minute queue times

[mighty gorge]

When they did this temporarily a few months back, you had a pool of people that hated it, and a pool of people that sort of applauded it, but both groups still found something to complain about.

[dense lance]

Power is tough, too, it needs a way to quantify it. A rating that works by adding up a bunch of other ratings doesn't really work, either. To really get good matching you'd need to do something like use everyone's stats to simulate a fight vs a target that scales with state age, then assign a rating based on how many troops survived (on either side of the imaginary map), then group people based on that.

[tidal apex]

Another thing is that SoS is not even pretending that it tries to do equal matvhing :p

[winter canyon]

But why bother playing at all if the enemy team has 3 times your march power...

[dense lance]

But if you pit people against similar strength you also need to issue rewards based on that strength, I think, otherwise it's also unfair to the whales to fight only other whales. They're high paying customers so you don't really want to say "ha ha! now you fight each other!"

[steel musk]

I do 10 battles and that's all

[winter canyon]

Play to lose? What could be funny?

[bitter bane]

maybe my feedback can be sent too devs

[bitter bane]

^

[steel musk]

good luck with devs.. If they listened to your feedback let us know

[tidal apex]

What SoS think is equal teams-
Team A
2 whales with 200mln power marches
3 newbies with 50 mln power

Team B
5 people with 110mln marches.

On paper if you add march powers it looks not too bad but in reality one whale march will decimate 5 opponents 🤣

[bitter bane]

They did on my others feedback

🤷🏼‍♀️ 🤷

[winter canyon]

Why would they put 200 and 50 on the same team

[tidal apex]

No idea but saw it happen

Those 50 mlns were even using vanguard skill so clearly had no idea about the game

[winter canyon]

🤦🏼‍♀️

[winter canyon]

When someone picks Vanguard/Defender and gets 0 kills and all deaths I just want to

[tame lintel]

Yall would be in here complaining about matching times if all was perfect🙄

[steel musk]

some invite maxed players to make super team... so could get 5 players all them have 200 mil vs 5 with 50 mil

[tidal apex]

Yup, it just hurts inside so much...

[dense lance]

I think the algorithm is built for speed and not quality

[winter canyon]

If they want speed, they can remove the 1 minute waiting time just to have someone not confirm and you have to restart again...

[tidal apex]

It is made for speed and giving free sacrifices to whale teams. My current alliance sometimes make team from most powerfull members. They happen to play equally or even more powerfull teams but most games are against random sacrifices...

[dense lance]

for the whale player though, quality matching might mean making them wait until one of their peers is available, and probably at some point it was noticed that a long time in the matching screen increased player dissatisfaction

[tidal apex]

Nope, they never even tried that :p

[dense lance]

It doesn't have to be in SOS, the game wasn't created in a vacuum. Industry data could show that long matching times = 😠 and that's enough to motivate that

[steel musk]

matchmaking is broken on POW...

[winter canyon]

But 100 million vs. 300 million isn't playable at all. If they at least put all 200+ in one category and 200- in the rest, everyone would at least have a chance...

[dense lance]

It is, and I think most people had more actual fun when player stats weren't used, including whales

[tidal apex]

Their main motivation is money. Contrary to what some people might say whales spend to be powerfull. If they are powerfull but always play equally strong opponents then there is no meaning. They spend even more and play even more powerfull people? No, they pay to easily destroy people and thats what all SoS matching alghoritms provide

[dense lance]

Which is itself workable but it needs to be done through higher rewards and prestige. That doesn't work well with the current POW ranking system.

[steel musk]

some whales complaint about it i guess..
who were doing super team ( 5 maxed players) so they won all battles to get 15 gold frags wow

[dense lance]

Basically you could do it but it would take patience and finesse. We're not known for that.

[tidal apex]

Yup, current ranking system is garbage. It is just gating rewards but have no effect on matching at all

[steel musk]

most f2p don't care about pow ranking rewards
but looks whales want it more than f2p 😂

[dense lance]

They do want the currency to buy things in the shop... I think F2P would like the rewards but doesn't care about the rank, which is an important difference

[winter canyon]

I don't really care about ranking, but I want the experience to be enjoyable

When all opponents are 250 million+, it's not enjoyable

[dense lance]

I think if you want the high spenders to all fight each other (using player stats) you would need to give a reward maybe money can't buy

Some kind of way to show off, for example

[tidal apex]

I play just to get rewards and then struggle to reach diamond again so I have less to do when PoW comes again (because one rank drop)

[steel musk]

no no.. they get almost all rewards by diamond 1 star.. no need doing more but looks that they want 15 gold frags..

[tidal apex]

Lets be real, they keep on playing so mich because they enjoy destroying random scrubs like me :p

They are like "their tears are the joy of my life" 🤣

And then there is me nearly throwing my phone out of the window after 8th game against whale team... In a row...

[dense lance]

Some but most of the bigger whales I know play because they feel like their friends, alliances and states depend on them and if they left they're leaving them in ruins as the state burns around them

[steel musk]

some of them playing pow more than f2p
and just for 15 gold frags?
event is not fun.. Graphics nothing

[dense lance]

They also tend to be really competitive, but only when it feels like it's difficult is it really satisfying

[tidal apex]

PoW matching is so great that I would be a millionaire if they allowed gambling real money on PoW games 🤣

Easily would get 90% games right

[steel musk]

for me i do 10 battles only and that's all.. so i don't really care about matchmaking

[winter canyon]

In some maps even having 1 big spender will guarantee you a win

[tidal apex]

Oh you mean those great maps where blocking 2 spots means you cant leave the base?

[winter canyon]

Yeah, when there are only 2 exits

[winter canyon]

It's one of the only ways to get red crystals

[tidal apex]

After getting to know people names and power levels I pretty much find a game and already can tell if it will be a win or a loss. Thats how bad matching is

Before anyone even moves

[steel musk]

But calculate the time you spend on event and compare it with 5$ bundle and see if it's worth or not

[winter canyon]

It's one of the only ways F2P or you won't get T12s

[tidal apex]

Pearl shop or RE is also nice for crystal splinters.

[winter canyon]

Apart from path of water, you only have the infected event every other week

After a year I only have 2 of 3 t12 unlocked

[winter canyon]

I used those on behemoth

Or they would have still been blue

[steel musk]

yes it's good event for crystal. no need going for rank.. until diamond 1 star it's good and could get all crystal .. I mean that

[winter canyon]

I'm stuck at gold

Can't progress any higher than that

[tidal apex]

I did not manage to reach diamond this time, only platinum V 😒 gonna have to climb from gold next time

[stable cosmos]

There was something posted WAY back, about how base hits work. It is not hq troops vs attacking march. It is garrisoned heroes march vs attacking march. After that the calculation messes up and all your hq troops get wounded. Thats probably why it doesn't look half as bad on a tile

[real gazelle]

Hey chief, another effective method for obtaining red shards is by accumulating your lucky cards. This, along with claiming every red shard in the Migo store, is how I managed to acquire my T12s.

[steel musk]

oh it's easy..
from 10 utc to 14 utc.. do pow when you on blue side
after 18 utc do pow when you on red side.. and make sure you last on list.. and will win

if not, cancel it

And re start

[tidal apex]

Oh true! In my state it just unlocked crystal splinters in lucky cards event, it happens quite a bit after t12 release

[winter canyon]

Yeah, they capped the number at some unknown quantity🤔

[steel musk]

here where strong team will be

[winter canyon]

The remaining troops in the base just give up and get wounded after the first few hundred of thousands of troops get eliminated

But still, it was possible to survive pretty well until they released 30 features over the past 6 months

[stable cosmos]

I wish i could remember who posted it. It was such a long way back

[winter canyon]

Really?

[steel musk]

it mostly work with me.. matchmaking broken there most time strong team vs weak team..

I get diamond by this way

[winter canyon]

I find the best strategy to be picking medic and only go after weak people in buildings

But that doesn't work when the enemy team is 5 whales because they are all stronger than you

[nova jetty]

I played like 15 times this round and lost them all . I have given up on pow matching . It used to be my favorite event

[steel musk]

when get super team need wait abit then doing pow again

so won't get them again

I mean before start another match.. so won't get them 2 times on row 🙈

5 whales they should be team and playing together

[nova jetty]

That only works if they don't wait to join too

[winter canyon]

Out of the 60 matches I played this week, this was one of the only good matches for me😅

[steel musk]

blue team stronger

39 kills tho

[gritty fiber]

60?

nice win

[real gazelle]

Hey chiefs , I haven't played POW for a little while now, but I've found that the best way to win matches is to enter solo matches. Every time my alliance and I formed a team, we encountered stronger opponents.

[steel musk]

1 player has 39 kills.. not 60

[winter canyon]

64*

[gritty fiber]

No i mean 60+ games

Gold 6…Did you start in silver?

[steel musk]

check History it say whale team vs shark team.. so it's made to be like that strong vs weak 😂

[gritty fiber]

Yes, i found that to be true for mine too

[winter canyon]

Started in gold

Was luckier last month

[gritty fiber]

I hear you

Progess is frustrating

[vague merlin]

This is same what i thought so 😅 Sometimes solo is better

[winter canyon]

I've had wins and losses on both team "Whale" and "Shark"

[nova jetty]

Solo is always better I make up my losses in team play by winning in solo play . I have also had both wins and losses on both sides .

[pallid willow]

In any case they should add a cooldown time before queuing again or a payment to those who don’t accept matches 😒 and the more they don’t accept in the day the longer the cooldown time, 1min, next 3min, next 7min, next 10min

[tidal apex]

Need to have 4 ultrawhale friends willing to carry baggage around if you want to play team. Otherwise it will be even worse

[pallid willow]

If you know one i can sacrifice to be the baggage let me know 🤣🤣🤣

[tidal apex]

Still looking, baggage role already taken :p

[nova jetty]

That is a very good suggestion you should write it in #📋︱feedback-reporting I would definitely upvote it.

[tidal apex]

Suggestion about timeout every time someone fails to accept a game is good one. It prevents potential matching abuse by trying to either match against specific enemies or avoiding playing against someone. It is such a basic thing, no idea why they did not implement it...

And it would also lessen frustration with PoW a little. So much fun entering 5 times queue because someone keeps on not accepting

And it is often same 1 or 2 people who keep on repeatedly doing that

[stable cosmos]

Yep. Its a fair method too. If you go into a you cannot play for 10 minutes wait because you failed to confirm thats sensible. And its often used in other games. Its not worthy of a perma ban or anything silly. Could be legit, but it at least takes you out of it for a while and reduces bot stuff too.

[tidal apex]

Exactly, it is just really light slap on the wrist. In case someone had something happen, lost internet connection or delivery man ringing a bell :p

So no need to instantly make a big penalty about it but it should increase every time someone fails to accept.

[nova jetty]

I agree it would make it less boring waiting on opponents. I almost hate the waiting more than the losing.

[gritty fiber]

I keep thinking they are doing it on purpose

Maybe i need to be more forgiving and think about the delivery man

Afterall it’s Christmas season

[tidal apex]

Some games I played had systems like that. You failed to avccept a game first time then you got few mins timeout. It happened again within same day then this time it was longer time. Once more then it was already like 1h timeout etc.. Then next day started and it was once again starting at few min penalty for first failrue to accept

[gritty fiber]

That’s fair, 9 other people’s time

[tidal apex]

It was made that way to give people some leeway too. I mean first miss was nothing big, barely few minutes but doing it repeatedly resulted in way longer times

[cloud ridge]

First 4, now 5

Anymore surprises for SOTF and anymore "hidden" states included this time?

[thorn axle]

There is a chance that your state didn’t make any points yet hence not being visible in the top leaderboard, I see in second one you made points and seems like only you did since you put your state in rank 2

[cloud ridge]

No sorry

[steel sage]

Can yall stop changing stuff that doesn’t need to be fixed like the damn marches! I have to freaking click 3 times just to send a dang match!!! Put it back the way it was😒

[cloud ridge]

But, I'm more just showings if we have another imaginary states issue

[thorn axle]

Oh my bad, your discord handle has 597 😅

[stable cosmos]

The first shot shows 4 states. The second 5. That means even without points it should be on the board. Can't just magic one in

[cloud ridge]

I'm dumb, ignore me 😂

[thorn axle]

Duck you are confusing me

[thorn axle]

Oh don’t get me wrong I agree with having all the states on the board. Even if the state made no points, should be on showing 0

[cloud ridge]

But, I'm still showing regardless as I don't want any imaginary states again

After end of today I'll take another as proof

Then, I hope we don't have another drama...

[thorn axle]

If I’m not wrong the states in your migo are the same in your sotf but that is too much headache to check who’s in your group, would you like me to submit this as feedback for you?

[thorn axle]

There’s been lots of people also wanting the same, you are welcome to upvote the many March page feedbacks in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[pallid willow]

Another day without effortless progress event

[cloud ridge]

It's not so much feedback per say, it's more last sotf the cross state rankings we're screwed over and peoples rankings that game showed we're apparently wrong.

We never got an actual answer / reason for why it was wrong or how it happend, especially for the whole event and even taking like a month to get any form of actual response

In my state, one player got the missing rewards they should have got sent to them whereas I didn't....

So, I don't want this "bug" or whatever it was to happen again, nor do I trust KG not to use the excuse of having extra states Included in sotf as opposed to the usual 5

[pallid willow]

Is it my imagination or they lowered the sotf points target again? 👀

[stable cosmos]

Your imagination. Its still high

[pallid willow]

But wasn’t 300k points before?

I mean the old sotf

[worldly sable]

2 cogs for $5 seems kind of terrible, delete the bundle 😂

[pallid willow]

Anyone remembers if they add resonating heroes vouchers tomorrow?

[pallid willow]

👀🙀 no complaints in 4hrs, amazing

[gusty dove]

people are doing dailies. No time to write complaints 🙈

[stable cosmos]

Also done most of it. Nothing more to do but wait and see if the devs do what we'd like to see or if they optimise it instead which means they ruin it further

[steady umbra]

I have some kind of memory that resonated hero vouchers should be awailable today already if it would come to us.
But right now i cant say that for 100% sure.

[unreal lichen]

To add to my awesome co-mod here; resonating hero vouchers are available under the "Festival" tab under Events. These are generally launched on Sundays, along with normal hero Value Vouchers event. In my state, we do not have the resonating hero Value Vouchers event this week. 😢

PS: I was hoping to get a few Daryl fragments but SOS had other plans

[unreal lichen]

Hi Lisa, I dropped a feedback for this. Please feel free to up/down vote it here: #📋︱feedback-reporting message

The amount of cogs is too less for the amount of the bundle 🥲

I agree that these are new features but pricing them this high is an annoyance.

[regal tusk]

[unreal lichen]

😢 what happened ?

[regal tusk]

Same with Lisa. 🔼

[stable cosmos]

Devs will optimise. Now the bundle is $10

[worldly sable]

2 cogs for the chance to get 2 purple frags, amazing lol

They really are something

[pallid willow]

Alright ty 🙈

[harsh owl]

💯

There's no denying this. However, sentinels are here to stay it seems so there may as well be something worth pursuing.

Also, depending on how active a player is I'd imagine one could just swap pearls for sentinel frags (assuming you can get it this way) and one day, maybe one day, one can get them.

There is another way you'd never get them but lets assume my "feedback" per the community's response was already me saying too much

[marble willow]

Recommend power 600m, my march 2b, can’t beat it 🤷‍♂️

[gusty dove]

You should send a 600m march 😏

[steel musk]

Devs trying tell you somthing by this event

spend more to beat infecteds 😂

[strong grove]

How to change the "stage 😬

[grim steppe]

the prizes are currently the same as for stages 1 and 2 because u didnt make 30 laps to open 2 stage prizes see what happens later

[strong grove]

😬

[steel musk]

it's already stage 2

you have to spend to get into stage 2 rewards

stage 2 rewards.. need + 30 laps

[storm solstice]

you stay on Stage 1 rewards till you finish the 30 laps.