📋︱feedback-discussion

[vagrant lance]

You are using Vanguard PoW skill which is completely useless with your strength. That is what people are trying to say.

[spark wren]

personally i think support skill and maybe teleport skill is the best for weaker players in POW

[tardy night]

His reasoning is that - his matching group used to consist of t11 troop players. Now he's facing only t12 players against whom none of the skills matter. It's an issue occuring from being a fringe state matched to people at an earlier growth stage.

Much like behemoth states matched to non behemoth folks

[vagrant lance]

And facing a team of experienced and possibly strong players, random teams seldom win

[strong grove]

But t12 😬

[vagrant lance]

Yeah, well, they come eventually anyways

[spark wren]

i went against a team that won the pow tournament on my first pow game today i think i will take a break on pow for a bit 😅

[strong grove]

This frist March and other 6

[strong grove]

😪

[fringe shadow]

The new changes ensures only spenders will rank well or be able to complete the milestones. f2p have no chance unless they are willing to sacrifice other event rankings and empty some of their backpack using the custom tasks. It’s evident as the other tasks give such low amount of points, but the 200% exclusive to buy 5x bundle task is worth 4000 pts. If spenders just do a few a week while they pick up their usual weekly bundles, non spenders won’t have a chance.

[pallid willow]

Yea they really went from needing one training building finished to complete the training task to an increase of needing like 6-8 times that🤣 for the exact same garbage points 🙃

[strong grove]

I complete the throwdown task only because it is necessary for the journey to glory

[fringe shadow]

Yeah the troop power training tasks are some sort of sick joke now. You are pretty much forced to use speed ups to complete those tasks. Then I’d rather just do the free ones,,,

[knotty cosmos]

Always amuse me so much when I see players using wrong skills usually scout and vanguard and they melt like butter 🥲

Add defender in the list too lol

[spark wren]

scout could potentially be useful if you have good timing (example the reinforce is 1-7 seconds late so teleport there to buy time)

[knotty cosmos]

Well imo it makes sense only if opponent is dying and no incoming enemy anytime soon or if you are relatively stronger. Most of the times, this is not the case.

[hallow belfry]

Td troop training needs 1.8m power?! You used to get same points from something like 150/160k… they obviously realised throwdown didn’t empty people’s wallets enough

[stiff ether]

Question- how can something be 4000% discounted if the content is random?

[hollow pebble]

why is this garbage throwdown in migo now, thanks devs for ruining it and can't get my 7500 anymore due to the enormous requirements now, well done

[rain swallow]

This task is very demanding, it's no longer worth taking it, even though I train the 3 types of troops I won't be able to complete it, it's better to take the rallies and gather tasks

[hollow pebble]

I didn't saw that one yet, but jeez, that's terrible points for too many troops

[rain swallow]

yes, I went into shock when I realized that either I spend a lot of speedups for the troops, or I stay with the task for a whole day 😂

[steel musk]

sorry but our feedback did nothing.. they changed it but not like as players wanted.. they changed it as they want.. so feedback here did nothing

there big difference about that

[gritty sluice]

Yes lol delete that feedback channel, pointless

[steel musk]

this 1 of million feedback here.. did they will return it back as it was before?

I bet devs won't even look or care about it.. 1 of them will delete it and throw it away

[strong grove]

Tomatoes and wood will be given as compensation 🙈

[steel musk]

so who asked for this feedback or writed it.. he wasted his time

not only this feedback.. I post this as example

why say devs fix bugs, make things better but they ( devs) actully not like that

[strong grove]

😬

[steel musk]

yesterday asked about 1 feedback which devs looked to it and change it as players wanted..
and didn't get 1 yet

because devs didn't do that

[gritty sluice]

How bout report to delete reporting channel

devs not even here on this dc

[hollow pebble]

We have that useless becca right?

[steel musk]

Devs useless i reported them

21 vote.. did devs quit lol

[strong grove]

Frankly, they don't look at the "dev" feedback report, at least not at the complaints they get.

[steel musk]

they didn't care about it.. after few weeks they said they will add tanks

and didn't say anything about bugs

If MM this week, there chance 90% to get bug during playing this event

as last time, can't move to R5 🤦‍♂️

3 MM or more in row was there bug

I think bugs were. tile Behemoth not in report
and can't finish R2 or R1 and stuck there

[strong grove]

If there is an advantage to us due to some bug, the dev will definitely fix it soon

[cosmic tulip]

You know things are bad when the feedback reporting is in slow mode.

[spare summit]

😂

[gritty sluice]

Fact

[steel musk]

If they focus on fix bugs only, i am sure we won't get more bugs..
but they more busy add tanks to a game and more future and reduction rewards to make players spend to get rewards

[gritty sluice]

"re-add"

[steel musk]

like lucky slot event.. It was there Gem lvl 5 in store.. cost 2k coins
After few time same day ( not even days) they take back Gem lvl 5 (steal) from all players who bought it and changed it at store to Gem lvl 2..
so who spent to get Gem lvl 5, DEVS laughed on them + stole them in same day..
so if they want they could fix bugs... only if it's about money

[gritty sluice]

they made it even worse

[steel musk]

rewards still not good compare which what we need to use .. i skip throwdown

[strong grove]

To correct all bug. The game must be made from scratch. Because this is a bug world 🙈

[steel musk]

rewards less than 5$ bundle

at throwdown

[hallow belfry]

Well KG don’t want to give better rewards for stuff that’s free than for buying stuff

[steel musk]

then they could remove this event

[gritty sluice]

If not for migo ffs I won't do it

[hollow pebble]

And that's the biggest problem, it's coupled to MIGO so many will try to get 7500 points, which is already way too much

[steel musk]

how much points need? didn't check yet 🤔

[hollow pebble]

stupid devs

[strong grove]

😬

[hollow pebble]

7500 for max throwdown migo

[hallow belfry]

Money grabbing devs

[strong grove]

Migo task?

[steel musk]

ah will do it then
Infected fiend task and rss

[hollow pebble]

Yes

[strong grove]

Hope hero gear task😬

[steel musk]

I wonder if those tasks will be enough or not lol

[gritty sluice]

7500

[hollow pebble]

doubt it that will come back, too many points you get for it

[steel musk]

don't want throwdown rewards

[strong grove]

😬

[hollow pebble]

Devs love to steal from you, so why not good tasks with good points too

[steel musk]

they could reduction it

[hollow pebble]

they could, but won't, look at gold fist task lol

they probably keep points same but you need to do more for it

[cosmic tulip]

7500 - so most alliance will only get up to lvl 10 rewards anyway.

[steel musk]

They made it harder.. need training 10k troops to get 540 points

[steel musk]

yep

[strong grove]

But low reward 😬

[versed spruce]

The migo task requirements varies, 7500 is for teams that are in champion expert is 4800 and challenger is less than 3000

[steel musk]

change pow skill first

[strong grove]

Thanks
I mean throwdown

[hollow pebble]

then they should change that too, lower the amount required for the migo tasks, but they only change half of it, or just remove throwdown from migo alltogether

[gritty sluice]

Dev feedback literally released yesterday and now we need another dev feedback for their feedback

[steel musk]

yes it's low..
for pow try use support skill (bomb)
when your troops marching, select facility and chose bumb then use it.. it's kill enemy even if was maxed. better use it on facility which have 1 player inside

[strong grove]

🙏

[versed spruce]

I suggest that people change to a lower TD League alliance during TD week.

If you care about RR, then try to go to the lowest TD ranked alliance possible, get migo done in one day or two, challenger needs only 2.2k points (i think) then go back to the main alliance for RR before registration closes.

[steel musk]

or just skip throwdown

if low ranked, rewards will be more low then

[versed spruce]

When my team dropped from being #1 alliance in state because of transfer we already got demoted in TD to Expert, seriously it's the best thing that could happen because of Migo lol

[steel musk]

i have to go.. good luck with devs and feedback which they even won't care about it

[versed spruce]

The alliance rewards in Expert and Champion are identical but you only need less than half the alliance points

Only the solo rewards are better in champion than expert

[steel musk]

solo alliance not good... it's 5 frags for ranked 1..
cross states it's good but need use tons so i don't care

[versed spruce]

Unless you care about solo rewards, being in a higher rank is a big disadvantage now

[versed spruce]

Absolutely, the solo rewards are incredibly bad lol.

[steel musk]

cross states rewards.. there tempest arms things but also depends on luck... so it's not really worth

if they put somthing good maybe will worth try get rank 1 in cross states.. like Behemoth ultra skill things

[strong grove]

There should be at least 80 active people for this 😬

10k ×80 😬

Impossible

😬

200 players need 🙈

[steel musk]

I just play for chat, don't care about events.. maybe will quit one day. there no fun

almost all events there bug.
And devs reined most events or maybe all

[strong grove]

🤑

[steel musk]

we all will quit one day tho👀

I think that's why devs keep add more things which need spend

next one will be tanks

[steel musk]

some players don't really spend

there cheating here also.. like all games

but some who don't think.. they think sos company don't lie

[unreal lichen]

okay guys any plan of having a state transfer in 1122-1130 range or those 7 states are doomed to die in pain of lack of playerbase after being skipped in 3 state transfers?

[wraith vapor]

My favourite optimisation is the troop task in throwdown 😂

[digital glacier]

Those states are barely 5-6 months old 🤣
Transfers or merge won't revive the state.
It might for a very very very short time, but it will be worse after than it was before 🤣

[terse agate]

Perhaps we should find partners for the devs…..
Then they might stop scr.wing the players 🤣😂

[unreal lichen]

those states opened in Feb which means they are almost 10months old first of all. and 11121 a state opened in feb as well had 2 state transfer to date.

now stop being smartypants

your entitled to your opinion about transfers. yet do not challenge my statement with irrelevant personal opinion.

its a request to be heard.

[versed spruce]

Wasn't there a mention about next transfer opening early next year?

[unreal lichen]

i heard the Jan 2024 one yes but then again same story they did skip those ranges for MIGO. in Jan accordingly we should be in Chaos MIGO

and again skipped.

[digital glacier]

Be thankful the game doesn't have the exact same timeline for releasing events for every state created.

You would be waiting another year for merge, and 2 years for transfer 🤣

[digital glacier]

There's no exact start date for next migo.

[unreal lichen]

yeah well i'm also glad there is block option in discord. if you are here to mock funplus and laugh get a life dude.

you can always quit and live your beautiful life.

[silk valley]

Exactly

[digital glacier]

🤣 complaining the state is dieing, but wants transfer event so players can leave or hope a few join. If several bigs join, several will leave because they're not getting what they're used to getting for rank. So they leave or quit. It happens in every state.

Blocks me for telling them what really happens from merge & the fact they can't say they will be skipped next set of transfers because a "prediction" of when the next world event will start 🤣

Players that are this sensitive about getting the TRUTH shouldn't be playing this game. They need to go play my pretty pink point or something

[knotty sierra]

What the hell is going on with updates today

Am I the only one who's had a 1.5gb update followed by another 3gb update?

[digital glacier]

Many major update these days like to delete the entire sos folder and download all the files completely fresh, even if there is 0 change made to the file 🙈
Unnecessary download. And files are missing so the 4.5gb, it's really more than that.

[mighty gorge]

Holy cow. Seriously, if states in this range are already getting state transfers then this game is taking a nose dive completely. It was 2-3 years before early states started to really die (certainly not 6 months), and even then at least there was a modicum of activity. My own state had a transfer back in early 2022, it was toxic, full of people that would dox and where cyber mobbing. Even this didn't raise an eyebrow in FP. But within 6 months, the state was dead again.

FP really need to stop releasing new states, and start incentivising people to join older states. I kind of feel like a stuck record as it can be achieved in several ways, its just every time FP do something they completely screw it up or don't even listen to what they are being advised.

There are many knowledgeable people in SoS that if things where community led could change the course and direction of FP's incompetence (for the good). @digital glacier is one of those people, so his point isn't irrelevant or opinion, its fact. States die just as quickly after transfers and the evidence supports this.

If you want your request to be heard, attempt to create a feedback report, but I can assure you, you will need to do it several times, and over several months even maybe years for FP to even heed the communities advice.

[unreal lichen]

i did join 4months after the game released in late 2019. so lets get that i know and you dont thing out of way.

now as for the rest of your speech it does make sense to a degree

but lets look at how states used to open and how it changed.

they used to open state very less frequently there for the backbone of older states was way different

now we have a new state every week almost even two per week

this began in 2023

thus this states never reached the same number of players lets say your state 398 did.

they wont take a nose dive

but people are quitting

this is fair concern coming from experiance.

p.s. i did tried feedback :))

mods here actually listen better

Hi Sareh, I understand that you have been playing for a long amount of time and are speaking facts from experience.
I am relatively a new player 🫣

There are significantly lower number of players in new states compared to the older states and if an alliance quits or many from different alliances quit, it really becomes a trouble for inter state events.

okay i really didn't mean to run a whose older match here. it was mentioned and i answered. i'm glad that you heard my speech with good heart

thank you.

[unreal lichen]

I agree to your statements as well. Transfers are actually leading many newer states to become more inactive and ultimately dead. I have seen that happen to one of the neighbouring states.

its normal when you open so many 1/3 filled state eventually you have to merge them its the path the company follow the initial release of a state bring profit but then you have to lower those numbers thus merges or transfers

[unreal lichen]

I get your problem, every major update I have to download a lot of game files over mobile data 😭

[steady umbra]

Hopefully those states will be in next transfer event.
Some of states sadly got skipped because they were in different timeline as other states that had transfer.

[mighty gorge]

Lets get something straight, if you want to do the entire 'attitude' thing, you are approaching this all wrong. I speak from experience too, over 4 years of experience but not just that, many more years of experience gaming across various platforms, and as a mod seeing a variety of in game problems. I also see people now, after 4 years talking out of their hat about things that they should know better about, however I wasn't even doing the 'I know and you don't'. Just like Mufasa, and hundreds of others here its based on factual experiences from different states across the game. You dismissed his view as 'personal opinion', which it wasn't and in essence did precisely what you just said about 'I know better'. But now that we have that out of the way, I would sooner look at the why.

Lets look at the facts shall we. State 1121 is several months old. States of this age in my and many other players views over a long time and based on history to-date should not be in a position that they need to request transfers (and this is the point). Players are quitting for several reasons, F2P vs P2P gap, increase in cost to progress, boredom, inability to feel a sense of accomplishment (where state groups have a higher density), spread of players across 1200+ states (IMHO we are about 400 too many but that is just a personal view) as well as the number of people actually as new players given negative press. Look at the FP revenue stream, $22m per month down to <$8m per month in the space of less than a year. This shows a decline of players and those willing to pay, or stay.

What needs to happen, because state mergers and transfers are not a 'fix', is that FP need to provide an ability for players that do join, to join older states, they need to incentivise them. That can be done in many ways, such as 'boosted' settlements (which has been done in other games)

Generally, state mergers are a short term fix, with no long term goal and would have to be repeated and repeated and repeated, creating more dense pools of states and players, and then adversely affecting the ability for players to again reach decent ranks.

[unreal lichen]

but if that remains idle for so long then people actually get fed up with their state and quit like we have quitters daily because "boring game"

thats so long to read

i'm glad to have the mods answer thank you everyone.

[unreal lichen]

If you want, I can share a feedback on your behalf 🙂

[unreal lichen]

Same for you Cerberus ! 😇

would be great i did use the customer service feedback we did as player of those states and nothing

please put a word for me.

[mighty gorge]

Done it several times. Sadly, I kind of have that banging my head against a wall feeling. Saberlot has also had my views.

[unreal lichen]

I am a F2P and the gap you mentioned really affects a lot !
I am a rally joiner for every PvP event 🥲

[tardy night]

I don't think they have 1200+ states. Triple mergers would have brought overall count down to somewhere between 700-800

[unreal lichen]

Sure, I will. 🙂

🤗

[mighty gorge]

True Chek, but I guess even then they are still too diluted.

[tardy night]

We are dead anyway when gen skip occurs. Lol

Whichever player doesn't transfer out to older states or quit in the process, won't be as active as before in the spending

[unreal lichen]

I agree to that. My state has a maximum of 3 active alliances, others are just scattered all over :/

[mighty gorge]

Therein is another perspective, your view of active and FPs view of active. Neither probably are the same especially considering how they've historically grouped some states together with mergers.

[unreal lichen]

again whose older or whose more experienced is not the subject here. please if you are godfather of this game and all the platforms and like invented the gaming itself still let people talk instead of politely ask them to seal their lips because you been here for years. i did mention my joining date because you made it challenge.

[tardy night]

Got about 4 "super states" in a group of 30.

Betting that all of them get raided by older whale states to recruit best spenders. Just a one way flow of traffic. And facing the prospect of doing 4 gens together while carrying a team who can't do the same, vs joining whales already well entrenched...easy choice for all who made it earlier while making the whale state.

[unreal lichen]

i'm out of here now.

good day everyone.

Good day 🙂

[mighty gorge]

I think you need to learn something about tact, manners and understanding. YOU where the one that dismissed Mufasa's view, no-one else. YOU where the one that got all uppity because you didn't like what you heard from more than one person. YOU where the one that made the point about when you joined. If you dont' want a view from the community (of which the mods are just players like me, you Chek and Mufasa), then expect to hear those views instead of just expecting people to be quiet and not challenge things.

[unreal lichen]

oh come on let it go man go be another persons lawyer

[mighty gorge]

I'm good 🙂

[unreal lichen]

thanks

[mighty gorge]

Have a nice day.

[unreal lichen]

I understand your facts too Cerberus!
Would you want me to drop a feedback on your views as well ?

I would be happy to do so ❤️

[mighty gorge]

Thanks Warden, but its not neccesary. These things have already been fed back before. Appreciate you taking the time though.

[unreal lichen]

You are most welcome ❤️

[tardy night]

Give them the merge. They can contend with:

Lower rewards, more chances of war, faster gen skip, worse matchmaking from shallow pool till that happens, higher attrition from all the above ...so much green grass to envy

The best trick f+ ever pulled was pushing people of 15-18 states into 6. And make them all think the rewards were better and vastly improved with new sotf

[unreal lichen]

just to not confuse i talked about state transfers not merges in those states. because well too recent for merges. also merges in general is a bad idea.

[tardy night]

You are fixing dying states with transfers? Wut. Barely 10-12 transfer. If that.

Cuz costs for you are double that of older states with the f+ coin scam in donations.

[unreal lichen]

question is does the game provide a better idea? an alternative?

people are putting their accounts on sell

and giving up playing.

you want me to sit an script a new method of keeping things rolling for the game?

i can ask for what they want

transfers.

[tardy night]

Mergers are supplying quantity. They come with their own issues.

Attrition will happen naturally when the price of just even being able to win 1 rally is in the thousands even in a smaller alliance.

I would not be surprised if attrition in the game was 20% or worse. At least for spenders in our state it's close to that.

Nothing players can do will stop that unless you are either top of the class where everyone shares the burden or bottom of the rung where it's all bonfires and chatting.

[elfin blade]

I take back any previous comments asking for dev responses, I find all the ‘developer feedback messages’ so irritating, they still don’t address any of there actual problems and give some half assed response that really says nothing - silence is better

[unreal lichen]

much appreciated optimism :)) what you think we should do? i mean at least you talk without being needlessly sarcastic and without claims of being a celestial gamer of tactfulness. so i can maybe have a chat with you

the whole state active players did send feedbacks.

how we keep our investment in this game alive without transfers like give me the alternative and we work on that.

[versed spruce]

I think transfer and mergers are the only offered solutions currently, but both can have more negatives than positives 🤷

[mighty gorge]

Exactly Kou. They are the solutions offered, but as me, you and Chek both said, there are more negatives than positives and have their own issues. Not sure how that is viewed as "optimism" 😆

Give them the merge. They can contend with:

Lower rewards, more chances of war, faster gen skip, worse matchmaking from shallow pool till that happens, higher attrition from all the above ...so much green grass to envy

[tardy night]

Alliances did start arranging group exits via the 61 day route. All head to one state a gen below.

Think we saw that happen in 3-4 states. Not sure how successful that has been, hard to follow the progress unlike transfers or mergers of such a movement.

We had an influx of Russians that way, Koreans left meanwhile enmasse to somewhere in the 800s

[mighty gorge]

We had that in our state, but what ended up happening is that only a marginal amount of players (5 or 6 maybe more) out of about 25 ended up in the same place. Some of then used transfers also.

[tardy night]

Ours was a bit better, group of 30 odd moved in. But then 30 odd is not enough replacement for those leaving lol

[mighty gorge]

Also depends on the makeup of those 30, how active, F2P or not, progress against existing state and new state, and so on.

[tardy night]

[mighty gorge]

I saw that 😛

[tardy night]

Easier than the headache of the other route

[acoustic hound]

Tbf, the solution of merging states will always be a bit of luck... is the state you merged with dead because of people quitting... or is it dead because a handfull of players from the #1 alliance killed everyone off... same goes for Transfer, its a thing... but for the people who want to transfer, its not great..... having to get 45 passes to get to another state (half if its a dead state too...) isnt worth the hassle for most... usually it will end up in those people staying... as when they move, and they end up in a worse spot, they cant leave again...

Theres never a good solution unless F+ makes it free for one time for people to transfer... but even then, i dont think it will even be a solution, whales join whales... dead states become even more dead... friends look up friends.... it will just start all over again

[faint flint]

Thanks Devs. Bring back our fav TD task but make it uneconomical to reach.

[tame lintel]

The negatives depend on the people playing the game...not the developers..

[rain swallow]

So, I really regret taking this task, I don't want to give up on it, but 450 for so many troops is ridiculous, I would do more than that without spending anything on 2 exploration tasks🤦🏻‍♀️ 😂

I'll never fall for that trap again, I should imagine😌

[unreal lichen]

state transfer been both good and bad in the past. merges are way more tricky but even those saved some states. transfers are needed more than ever in states above +1100 due to the nature of those state they been opened in very short intervals and thus had few people to begin with. now people struggle to fill in the gaps and some gave up like i want a mod to go check 1115 stats and come back to me its "zombies won" there if anyone alive they are hiding so good. many people here talk from a point of ego or just frustration from game to you. i dont care when "someone" joined or whats his opinion about transfers. this is what game has to offer we dont have a solid alternative.

[unreal lichen]

Yes 💯

I though my favorite troop training was back and straight up disliked the number of troops I had to train to reach the requirement 😭

[severe ice]

I couldn't agree more with you. I took that same one just cause it is a normal one for me to take then seen how many troops i needed.

[timid kelp]

I'm on the same level with this... Troop Training is all I ever used... Especially when I'm trying to save up everything especially speedups to spend in one big load for a good SoTF score

[zealous plover]

Boycott this rubbish iron fist 🤜

[faint flint]

The purple fist needs 1m troop power😔

[unreal lichen]

That's a LOT tbh. I am a P4 and I struggled to do that, ultimately gave up.

[versed spruce]

You probably need 100h and more of training speed ups to train 1m troop power worth of troops as p4

Might as well just do the speed up task for 4200 minutes and you get the same 450 as the golden fist for lower number of speed ups used

[unreal lichen]

Yep

It would help my Journey to glory as well

[tidal apex]

Feedback is working guys! We made a difference!

There was a lot of feedback about how exclusive speedups tasks gave worse points than normal speedups tasks and they changed it! They listened to feedback really closely.

They cut down points for all normal speedups tasks while leaving exclusive speedup task untouched 🤣

We made a difference, we should be proud of ourselves

[steel musk]

they didn't listen

they changed it as they wanted

[tidal apex]

They listened really closely and solved the issue. We complained that exclusive speedup task should give more points than normal tasks and they achieved that effect.

It is like when you sign a deal with a devil and wish for something. They achieve what you wished for but in a really skewed way :p

[steel musk]

ss for feedback plz

what you said.. It sounds they didn't listen because they changed it as they want..

not as players wanted

[tidal apex]

That just further proves how our feedback is worthless. Even if they happen to listen to it they do it devils way- they lowered normal speedups tasks points, they added troop training but made requirements few times higher etc . They did what feedback asked for but in a really skewed way

[steel musk]

check this feedback then say they listened 🙄

[tidal apex]

They listened! It was lowered to 15k now :p

[heady heart]

If only it was 100 hours worth of speed ups. I'm a P11 T12 player and I'd need over 250 hours worth to complete that task. Safe to say Troop Training has went from one of the best tasks to one of the worst and an absolutely avoid

[tidal apex]

Btw. If you did not notice I am being sarcastic about this

[versed spruce]

Sarcasm my friend

[steel musk]

but it's same.

they reduction the points which we could get from use things.. for example plasma from 4 to 3

they didn't listen or they think players dumb and they enjoy laugh on players

[solid oriole]

the decreased. yes. decreased number of earned points too though, but who cares? they did what asked

[tidal apex]

I really am starting to feel as if they are running psychological experiment here. Checking how much they can spit on players, how much they endure till they stop spending

Because for now many still are saying it is raining

And getting massive amounts of TD points

[steel musk]

Ok they did but players asked them for reduction points for use things like plasma, etc?
then devs laugh on players and they think they are dumb cause they trust them

[solid oriole]

old pearls shop

new pearls shop

[steel musk]

new one?

[solid oriole]

hint: plasma, crystals. plane formation

[steel musk]

they made it worse

[tidal apex]

It is really barely a "game" now... They keep on cutting rewards from playing lower and lower and you are expected to just drop 1k $ per week to keep upgrading stuff...

[solid oriole]

the most funny thing is plasma. the incresed price and incresed number of plasma. they though players will not notice

that actual number of plasma is decreased

[tidal apex]

Even their solution to skipping hero generations was just add discounted packs in shop 🤣 not extra rewards with fragments in events or anything gameplay related, just discounted bundles lol

[solid oriole]

to say more: f2p players that SKIPPED generations don't have lucky

though all who had proper gen 13 have it

[steel musk]

and you don't own account lol

[tidal apex]

Read their Tos or whatever that is called. They can delete your account any time they want to without giving any reason and make your 10$ or 10000$ spent on it go poff

Doubt bank will do anything about it

Yup by apple, not bank

[steel musk]

at least said what i think about lol
I have suggest more than once devs should focus on fix bugs only but they didn't

and about matchmaking also.. if events give balance matchmaking, game will be more fun for both side

[tidal apex]

It will never ever happen. It destroys core thing that they build their earning system on- you pay therefore you are powerfull. You are powerfull so you win.

If there was real balanced matchmaking then biggest spenders would struggle to get wins as much as f2p struggle. It would destroy whole purpose of spending money in game because then you would not be winning but simply kept on getting more and more powerfull opponents.

[clever blaze]

What’s going on? Nothing’s been deleted from the discord? Have mods finally gone on strike? 🙈

[tidal apex]

I personaly would love to see fair matchmaking but just explaining why it will never happen.

[steel musk]

I mean svs, mm, etc.. not solo events

they could matching super state vs super state on MM, svs. even if was more than once..
better than too strong state vs weak state

[unreal lichen]

Hello chief, no, we are around !
We have noticed your feedback comments. I am sure someone will reach out to you.

We are players too ! As much as we value the positive feedback, we value negative criticism as well. 😇
If someone does not reach out to you, you can DM me, I will help you out as much as I can ❤️

[clever blaze]

Thanks 😘 the only help I need is for the game I play to be fixed. So unfortunately there’s nothing you can help me with 🙈

Thanks for your kindness 😇

[tidal apex]

Write feedback in a really specific way without leaving any wiggle room for interpretation. Otherwise devs will listen to it how they listened to all of recent feedback and give really skewed solution to problem :p

[unreal lichen]

I understand your irritation with broken events, and more so if you happen spend on the game ❤️
There has been a lot of feedbacks and bug reports related to the weekend's SvS and KoTH. I sincerely hope things will be better 😇

[clever blaze]

I can imagine how busy they are with a literally endless and infinite string of bug reports, I don my think they actually have the human resources for dealing with feedback 🙈

[unreal lichen]

I got kicked out of KoTH at least 5 times, that required restart because other keys did not respond 😢
At least 10 of my legion reported here 🙈

[zealous plover]

Feed the kraken 😂😂😂

[tidal apex]

They ignore 99% of bug reports. Ones they work on start with "I tried to buy a bundle but for some reason it was not working" :p

[clever blaze]

Meanwhile @gray dragon is having a personality crisis and struggling to keep up with peddling the lies 🤣

[clever blaze]

Haha yep “I am directly going to give you money so can you fix this please” 🤣

[zealous plover]

F2p/low spenders are now baits for pow whales 🐋 solo against squads awesome 🤩

[clever blaze]

The save the whales campaign is in full effect 🤣

[steel musk]

rewards too bad. i doubt if whales need it anyway

[zealous plover]

All with maxed Angelica 200 monkey with skin 🐋

[steel musk]

but they try get top 1 in cross states and i don't understand why.. they need 8 gold frags? Lol

[unreal lichen]

We did get the second legion for RR, I am really thankful that got implemented. 🙈

[zealous plover]

I don’t see the fun just sit and kill everyone matching towards you

[tidal apex]

About second legions want to ask how it works for koth. If I am playing in second legion koth only will I also get koth league/championship rewards?

[steel musk]

whales spend alot more time on POW than what i do. just to get 8 gold frags..i doing few battles to get crystal then leave it.. ranked rewards it's too bad. also event not really fun to do it carzy because matchmaking is bad
when they work ? 🤔

[unreal lichen]

You will only get the alliance tier of rewards, not the solo rewards.

[tidal apex]

Thanks

[still tapir]

I just look to get to platinum rank and all the force formation stuff. I think about 25-30 matches.

To much work otherwise

[wide wraith]

got do get solo rewards for a 2nd legion in Koth, but the 2nd legion has no bearing on the league rubbish thankfully

[steel musk]

try get diamond 1 star... so every pow you will be in platinum rank.. Less work

but first time yep need alot work

[still tapir]

No i think you drop to gold. Or at least one of my alliance members finished in diamond but started in gold the following PoW

[tidal apex]

You drop one rank lower

If you made it to diamond then you will drop to platinum

[still tapir]

That’s what I thought but he finished with 8 diamonds and then the following PoW he was gold. He was quite angry about it since he thought he would start in platinum

[tidal apex]

He should, bug propably

Unless it was "special" PoW. There was one recently where I started from the begining....

[steel musk]

yep the one after summit

try get diamond 1 star only and check your rank next pow.. won't lose anything tho

unless if devs don't watch this feedback and will reset pow next time to make it harder to players lol

[mighty gorge]

Do you see how no-one else replied? I wonder why. I'm not sure if its wilful ignorance or if you're just trolling. The fact that you think that a mod (who has no more or less access to the same stats as me or you and any other player) can access your states statistics pretty much tells me all I need to know. You even twisted what Chek said to be 'optimistic' when it clearly wasn't. Its like you are reading a completely different conversation.

You can't change facts, no matter how much you keep referring them to as being opinion, or try to hide behind your ignorance by insulting people referring to their views being egotistical. I started off from a completely objective point of view, but you decided to be clever about it.

Go do your transfers or mergers, see how far it gets you. But the reality here is that you'll need to wait until there is an announcement for your state group (and transfers happen generally a few weeks after Migo ends), however there is likely (as announced) to be an interim transfer event, whatever that looks like and who its applied to.

[unreal lichen]

? that was an answer to someone i didn't expect a reply.

you okay pal?

[mighty gorge]

I'm fine, seems you've either been smoking something or are out to just keep repeating yourself without taking on board now what 4 people have given guidance on. Even the mod agreed with me.

Have a good day.

[unreal lichen]

?

well two hours ago someone said "the outcome of state transfer depends on players not developers" and i added my opinion to his text.

not sure what you want now mentioning me and using foul language.

anyway a final answer because you been popping up mentioning me writing me pharagraphs since 6hours ago. the sentence "thank you for your optimism" was sarcasm its weird you didn't get it?!?(its obvs), and it doesn't take any special ability for a mod to watch how dead 1115 is they can just ask a friend or make a mini. umm that should be about it. all of that aside I didn't insult anyone just a player I told i wont talk to you and its because I'm picky with my attention. i can't afford to spend it everywhere on just anyone.

now this the 5th time you said good day today. i'm having a good day.. dont mention me again or i will block you.

[zealous plover]

😴

[unreal lichen]

this section doesn't have a mod that users just use any sort of language they like?

[peak apex]

There are plenty of mods here but even with our superpowers, we cannot force everyone to have the same opinion, sometimes people disagree even with my opinion

The purpose of this channel is to discuss things, unfortunately not everyone will agree with everything else but the one thing we can agree on is there are too many bugs

[rain swallow]

stop asking to improve the bunker prizes for the love of God, you know what happens when they try to improve the prizes of something 😂

[peak apex]

They say “hold my beer”

[hardy cargo]

They say "lemme park my Lambo" 😛

[echo pulsar]

yeah but outright bullying and personal attacks could be stopped - nothing to do with differing opinions and have no place in a feedback channel - feedback about the game not other players.

[peak apex]

Again it’s a difference of opinion, not everyone gets on with each other here nor can we force that, the discord block feature is available for those you do not wish to communicate with

Some believe mergers fix the problems and some don’t - a lot of those who don’t do have experience in being merged - my personal opinion is that it’s a small band aid on a large wound

[distant gull]

POW now is rigged

[wide wraith]

like all things in SOS its always been rigged

[distant gull]

New Throwdown is worse than Hidden Trashures

Better old Throwdown, Fist only 120k BP

New Throwdown is just increase angry players include me

[steel musk]

they are maxed players ( maxed everything in a game)
they made team to get rank 1 on POW for 8 gold frags

[wide wraith]

so have the CMs been fired???, who will tell the so-called Dev rep that they are so far out of touch that they may as well be talking about a different game???

[steel musk]

ia there CMs i thought they bots

[hardy cargo]

I see it's 15 gold frags. That changes everything

[wide wraith]

I am starting to think the same thing afterall the CMs do NOTHING forthe community

its time a complaint went in to there bosses, if they havent been fired they should be

[steel musk]

I think need kick bosses also because they greedy 🤣

[wide wraith]

well yeah, they need to go also

the whole system of feedback needs a proper update because it doesnt work as it is

[steel musk]

games when it's start at beginning it's fun but after some times bosses ask devs to add things which need spend after more time they add way more than before.. And it continues like this..

it's about money

[distant gull]

Better fired devs

[steel musk]

up vote my feedback report lol

I know they don't care about it, just wrote it anyway

like all feedbacks in that's channel. Devs don't care about players feedback

[wide wraith]

soon i bet we will get the usual lies that the CMs are working for us in the background. This is a lie, or they would be telling the Devs that NO-ONE likes Throwdown, that it is a waste of Time.
As for the so-called Dev-Rep, why have they NEVER introduced themselves in here, well here is the simple answer, Its a Bot, controlled by many people, none of whom care about real feedback or their would be contact or replies back to those who leave feedback to their LIES

[fringe shadow]

Yeah if they improve bunker prizes, it will probably take a full golden behemoth rally to kill the infected inside AND put like 70k troops each bunker into the hospital. AND maybe we will need to pay admission ticket to participate too. 🤣

[steel musk]

or need bundle to join rally on bunkers

[fringe shadow]

Yeah definitely, and now we have it good because we can fit 20 in a rally by sending less troops for the first occupation crates. If they change anything, we probably won’t have that luxury anymore, and it will be the strongest whales needed in the rallies so f2p will get screwed again.

[steel musk]

they ruined most events.

[rain swallow]

Yes, why improve the prizes? I love XP books 😂

[timber cargo]

So for Christmas Jubilee, what makes the Devs think that players want old as fragments for rewards? Gen 12 heroes when we are on Gen 16? 🤦‍♂️

[short patio]

devs are just grunts.. its the management thats the problem..

[rain swallow]

Not again Satan, not again 😌

[fringe shadow]

Now golden fists will be deleted straight away 😆

[rain swallow]

I was tricked today, I got this task, I finished training my troops and now I have to wait for my troops to train again because I haven't completed the task yet😂

[fringe shadow]

Well, I will learn to love xp books if it means we get to secure a spot in the FF/FB rallies for first occupation crates 🙃

[rain swallow]

yes

😂

[fringe shadow]

Me too, after seeing how much progress collecting 3 batches of troops gave, I just dropped it. It costs probably 100 more hours of speeds in addition to complete it.

[steel musk]

which event that? we don't have it yet 🤔

[timber cargo]

It’s the one coming out Wednesday. MonkeyRambo posted about it. Took him 300 dice for 13 laps…

[steel musk]

300 for 13 laps? devs need money again

[hardy cargo]

purple frags

[rain swallow]

hahahaha I'm trying to warn my friends about this, but a P7 has already taken this task, it will take 5 days to complete, poor her 🤦🏻‍♀️ 😂

[steel musk]

imagin if they let us convert purple frags to Angelica frags

[rain swallow]

🦄

[thorny plume]

I have a suggestion to fix pow, or rather 2.

1. people that cancel fights loose stars

2. people that is matched with absolute trash players and have same amount kills as rest of team combined, doesnt loose stars

Its sortoff unfairn now that you loose stars in random fights when you are teamed up with p2s only

Matching is kind of garbage

[steel musk]

nothing fair in sos

[thorny plume]

No but it has tonns of improvement potential

Its so easy to fix too, have those that doesnt carry the team loose stars, you cant jugde a guy for not beeing able to carry 4 buff chasing idiots around

[steel musk]

and devs are useless.. they fix and modify what suits their interest

[thorny plume]

Its insane how easy pow is to fix

And yet they dont seem to care

If they cant fix matching, atleast stop punishing players that have to carry their team

[steel musk]

If they fixed that tomorrow
i quit.. I am sure, they won't

[thorny plume]

Can be fixed by using team percentage of kills as a basis for star dropping. X percent, no star drop

Its like they have 0 imagination

[steel musk]

I didn't say they can't.. they can but main problem is they don't care about players feedback

[thorny plume]

That is a good point 😂

Well ive raised a issue, hopefully it gets adressed because the way it is now, is broken

[steel musk]

I hope so

[thorny plume]

We even march teams as random players

Team teams

[steel musk]

I have suggest before make it like last time everyone have auto marches ( can't change it) and no Behemoth.. it give always balance matchmaking.. but they didn't care

[hardy cargo]

No one should lose stars. Only this way f2p could get better rewards.

[thorny plume]

And now I have to convince friends to bother playing 😂 else Ill keep dropping in rank. So random is easier

[hardy cargo]

I do not bother much with PoW. Just do 10 fights to open the crates and I'm done with it.

[fringe shadow]

She will need to use speed ups, I think the tasks expire after 24hrs now…☹️ it used to be 48hrs in old td

[steel musk]

or gave up the task

[rain swallow]

this task is torture🥲

[distant gull]

Same I will quit, because devs want ruin state 1k

I edit that Hidden Trashures

[hardy cargo]

It's funny how we wanted gold fist task back, 'cause it was the best task TD had to offer, so the devs listened to us and brought it back, but they change in such a way that it is now one of the worst tasks. 😐

[gilded comet]

263 hours (15.800 minutes) speedups (T10 ECO mode) for 450 points??? 51 hours (3.100 minutes) with training speedups task = 450 points, 263 hours = 2630 points with custom speedups task.... really? Fist before update 120.000 power, after update 1.270.000 power 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[steel musk]

they just ruined throwdown..

[thorny plume]

They did bring the Golden hand back toughb

[thorny plume]

But should have perhaps made symbol into a golden loo

[keen drift]

How many troops I need to train????

[thorny plume]

Or a golden deficit

[hardy cargo]

Too many 😛 But on a serious note. Depends what's your troop level. Go to one of your troop buildings, tap on train, then tap a little notepad icon next to the troops name on the right and then scroll down to check the BP of a single troop.

[thorny plume]

Reminds me of a girl in town, wanted to carp on my chest

Thats how this throwdown feels

[steel musk]

complaint, feedback, etc... won't help because as always devs don't care..
why do you think they don't care? because they still get money
most spenders actully stuck in sos because they spent or somthing like that

[gilded comet]

71 poits one T10 trooop for me... 17 888 troops

[thorny plume]

You get much more points just doing the speedup thing

[solid oriole]

yep. they can only repeat answer that they sent everything when they sen incorrect rewards

[fringe shadow]

Yeah, I think we’ve seen enough of how they answer and implement our feedback. That’s why we should just not ask for anymore updates to old events they haven’t touched yet, like bunkers. Or even alliance store, intel rewards, daily mission crates etc…… 🙈 they will find a way to make it 1000000000x worse

[steel musk]

how much time took them to take back Gem lvl 5 from all players who got it by 2k coins from lucky slot?

less than a day.. few hours
then they sent compensation 2k coins ( trash) and changed rewards at store

If it's about money they fix it too fast.. others bugs, they don't really care about it

[solid oriole]

i'm not sure, but did they returned rewards for TD previous week?

i know that they took all rewards back from people who got twice rewards

but did they returned the rewards players had too recieve after?

[willow epoch]

3600 min speedups = 15800 min speedups.... nice devs

[steel musk]

throwdown? I don't know
i did few tasks only because not really worth

[hardy cargo]

Maybe that's their way to make us stop asking for upgraded rewards. It seems to be working lol 😛

[solid oriole]

me too. but saw a lot complaints here

[willow epoch]

i think devs mean 148k power by quest

but added extra 0

[keen drift]

Wait, home come you only need 1.27M troop power but mine need 1.82M for the same point of 450??

[willow epoch]

i need 1.44M

[stable cosmos]

Different throwdown levels. Expert champion etc

[fringe shadow]

Nah, I’m pretty sure they intended it for it to be 1480k. 😆

[stable cosmos]

Just means a newbie with an empty backpack probably can't do it at all. Devs can't design for anyone not at the top of the heap

[willow epoch]

seems like hating or trap)

[steel musk]

I don't know if they returned rewards to them..

but also throwdown rewards it's same for rank champion and the lower ranked.. only solo rewards it's difference

[fringe shadow]

Yeah…devs definitely hates us all

[spiral musk]

I think the different levels (expert, champions, etc) have a different number of reward tiers.

[thorny plume]

Yes i give up, its so broken its not playable with randnoobs tbh

[gilded comet]

different conditions? good question for developers, s1158

[willow epoch]

here answer

[keen drift]

Mine is Challenger level

[steel musk]

it's same rewards.. no need think 👀

[spiral musk]

you're right... one more thing they changed for the... better???

though a big point difference to get to that last tier.
Expert = 400K pts
Champion = 910K pts

[gusty dove]

i love innovative companies like FP ♡. i alwayswanted a car that protects me from the outside, but which is permeable to arrows

Where can I buy such a car? 😍

[elfin ridge]

Yes that's a lot, but if I remember right it was over 2m for Champion. Still hard but hopefully more achievable this time 🙏

[spiral musk]

Considering how they've drastically cut the points that people could get, I doubt it.

[digital glacier]

❤️

[spiral musk]

They have (in essence) kept the points per challenge the same (gold fist is still 450), but they have increased the required power improvement by about 15x, so in essence you are getting 1/15 the points for your rss/time expenditure.

[marble grove]

how both hit 1400 at same time though 😂😂

[digital glacier]

Not true, states 82-94 opened in the course of 12 days 🤣

They might be playing since 2019 but they clearly don't know 🤣

1. Old states had a player limit. Much like new states.
2. The problem with new states is, many players are drawn in with fake ads and such that quickly quit after they realize the truth.
3. Many states in the 300s range, actually have tons more alts than you would think. Probably more than real players from states 1-150,or even 1-200 joining them. Because way back in the day, hq 30 was it for us. Many got bored. And started a new.
4. The newer a state is, the more hqs that are abandoned when players have to uninstall and reinstall a game. There was a pandemic of this being the instructions due to so many game bugs and trying to solve them with direction for the mods 🤣. The 800s state range was mostly effected by this. Tons of never logged in to accounts after 5 minutes because they swapped to their main account.
5. You have me blocked but I can still reply to you 🤣 and everyone can see just how much you think you know about this game but really don't when it comes to what you say vs what's fact. As proof would show. 398 cerberus knows I'm one of the more knowledge, players around. I have my opinions about this game, but I also have facts. And what I said earlier was facts. Just like the statement above.

[static trout]

Any mods around to help with a ticket related question? 🙃

[unreal lichen]

Hey Pallas, what help do you need regarding Tickets?

[static trout]

So I've just submitted a ticket re. stolen acount - pending nuking. Just trying to figure out how to get to the ticket once it's submitted to be able to track it and know when, if and how it's resolved

[static trout]

because copy pasting the URL in any browser doesn't give me the ticket details anymore

[marble grove]

3... in 400s some people had 10-20alts each, including me 😂

[mighty gorge]

I had 13 accounts at one point lol, 3 of which I played actively. Most I let die, but they are still present in the state.

[marble grove]

I used to use mine quite regularly for tapping 😂

Or svs vouchers

[unreal lichen]

You need to go to in game help&support there will be an option which says my ticket history(not sure ill ask and correct it!) Tap on it and you will have the information about all the tickets you have submitted yet.

[static trout]

yeah that's what i thought, but it's about a stolen account so I won't be able to go to the game once they freeze it

[unreal lichen]

Ohhh can you please wait for some time. I need to ask about it to one of my Co-Mod!

[static trout]

yup yup. Thanks a million 🙂

[digital glacier]

See... Here's the thing.
If you are in state 300 with 2 accounts, and state 301 opens.
If you then make 500 alts.... It doesn't matter, your state reached the limit prior to making the 3rd alt. Therefore, you may have lots of alts, but you didn't contribute but 1 alt towards player allocation towards fulfillment.

[mighty gorge]

If its your account, they will likely need you to supply a history of purchase receipts while its frozen. You can actually still get to the 'help and support' page from where it gives you the in game popup which tells you the account is suspended/temporary banned etc (if I recall)

[digital glacier]

The only thing you will be effecting now is the effect it has for svs matching, transfer.

[static trout]

can't. just tried while logging in now to click on the left "contact support" and it takes me to this page

[digital glacier]

The best thing you can do for the state, log in your alt before svs.
Put in grey zone.
Let get zeroed.
Request revival, but leave troops in enlistment 😜
It'll slowly put all troops in enlistment so, eventually, if it burns, it's only hospital troops and not actually lost 🤣.

[mighty gorge]

One of my accounts I can still see as its in the same alliance as another, last login time 168d lol

[mighty gorge]

Oh shoot. Sorry bud, I thought It would direct you there. Its been a long time since I had to recover an account. Hope you get it sorted.

You could try their email? [e-mail] (email can take a while to respond) or
https://funplus.com/contact-us/

[static trout]

no worries, it's a headache to get this sorted anyway. Hacked accounts are never fun 😕

[mighty gorge]

I feel your pain. I had the same with an account, ended up where I just gave up on it, kept the alts but lost the main.

[unreal lichen]

just ask him to not accuse me of smoking things and dont use the offensive language and i be fine. i dont need even your agreement for my case. just write down what i say to devs for me superheroes.

[static trout]

the fact they require your account registration date is just insane. I don't remember what I had for breakfast earlier today and they want me to tell them when I started playing this pain of a game? 🤣

[cloud ridge]

@merry scroll / @Nanami / @Becca (SoS Dev.Rep.) When will the correct SOTF cross ranking rewards be issued to players.

You can't just use 4 imaginary states in SOTF as an excuse for this and have it go unnoticed for a whole week. It's dumb and even an achievement by your standards.

[digital glacier]

Why does Leon look like an emotional emo twilight vampire?

[solid oriole]

by a while you mean that letter that i sent year ago and still not answered? 🤣

[strong grove]

😬

[solid oriole]

More than year* it was in September 2022. I had issues with payments there.

[static trout]

I need to get ready for work. Any chance you can dm me if you find out more?

[forest kiln]

Maybe.. but last time it was 2 mln / 26 K points , now 900 mln / 15 K .. 45% / 57% and frankly, rewards are crap when you know what for less work in Expert you get same as in Master

[solid oriole]

ha. they decresed points a lot, so not really. and for some quests even more than 2 times

[digital glacier]

Why compare what the new throwdown is, to the botched throwdown they had 2 weeks ago?
We should be comparing it to the one what's been around for 4 years 🤣

That's how sos gets you....

You see 47%/53% blah blah....

Better

I see..... Still a lot worse than original 🙄

[dapper stream]

Hulla
Hulla

[peak apex]

I believe a mod already discussed this and forwarded into the #📋︱feedback-reporting channel already, however you can also write to the devs yourself by raising a ticket in game🙏

[unreal lichen]

i believe you missed the point.

[peak apex]

Not at all my friend

[unreal lichen]

okay then i know how to talk here.

thanks we are done talking.

[peak apex]

Have an awesome day Sareh, hopefully the devs fulfil your request soon

[steel musk]

they won't

but keep hope anyway

[peak apex]

I’m still waiting for unicorn March skin

[unreal lichen]

if the community can't enforce its Discord ToS here. you expect them to be totally at service in the customer service and developements section.

[wide wraith]

still waiting after 3 months for customer services to even acknowledge the mail i sent so dont hold your breath waiting

[gusty dove]

i would not be surprised if the devs add a zombie unicorn soon 😏

[peak apex]

I’ve only been waiting nearly 4 years

[timid kelp]

I think it will zombie reindeer first 😏

[gusty dove]

true, and after christmas zombie unicorn

[digital glacier]

Vampires.

[timid kelp]

All I want for Christmas is the return of the MIGO horde

[digital glacier]

We already have Edward from twilight

🤣

[peak apex]

Eh where’s the glitter

[steel musk]

zombie unicorn with ultra skill and chance is 0.001% to get it

[digital glacier]

No sunlight

Jasper

[wide wraith]

all i want for xmas is a CM who actually cares about the community and does their job

[digital glacier]

But I think more Edward , idk. Having a debate about in dm. 🤣

[peak apex]

Eh Jasper looks too happy, I think they modelled that hero on my resting face

[gusty dove]

you know, some christmas wishes will never happen..

[digital glacier]

All I want for Xmas is a plane ticket to sos HQ.

[wide wraith]

yeah i know

[gusty dove]

deleting behemoth would be the best christmas present ever 😍

[wide wraith]

which one the old one or the new one, no one will be there anyway as it will probably be some holiday

[peak apex]

Now we wouldn’t do any kind of hacking cause that discussion is against the server rules

[gusty dove]

he misspelled lagging 😏

[wide wraith]

I still want to know if the so-called CMs have been fired as they havent been seen in ages

[steel musk]

but devs doing it and hack our accounts and take back things or steal.. same thing
like bios ( from codes) Gem lvl 5 from lucky slot 👀

[peak apex]

Uhhuh let’s go with that

There is something in the tos that (in my sleepy head explanation) says something like they still own everything

[steel musk]

Yes, unfortunately.
I think they worked alot on those rules lol

like they know what could happen 🤣

[gusty dove]

thats the sad part.
They earn money from their customer, and still own the things they sold 😒

[peak apex]

I did see the whole gift code thing and knew it was too good to be true tbh

[steel musk]

me too.. it's not like somthing which devs will do 🤔😅
but each code was able to redem 1 time only.. can't use any more than once

[unreal lichen]

actually they dont thats why they spend half of their life walking court stairs but its okay.

[peak apex]

It was defo more than their normal maps

[solid oriole]

hah, it's common now. even games in steam are not yours actually. but the point that as soon as they start to use this rules indisciminately they will lose users

and don't tell me that KG didn't loose, a lot left after gift codes incident

[gusty dove]

the problem is that many people fall for this kind of scam

[peak apex]

A lot have been leaving throughout the years, we had about 15-20 people in my alliance quit in one day not so long ago

[wide wraith]

they dont care who leaves, as they got money from the app stores for the game being downloaded in the first place

[solid oriole]

i was able to tolerate some. But this migo is turning point for me. If they will not give me my sotf crosstate migo points i will leave too

[steel musk]

but devs could leave it... what could bios do vs Behemoth, formation system, etc etc
It's almost useless when join rally

[solid oriole]

and it's sadly, because i'm top player of our alliance, and few more people will leave with me

[peak apex]

I don’t disagree with this but I can kinda understand the removing as many users didn’t participate for whatever reason so it put giftcode players at an advantage (as we said it wasn’t just small codes)

[gusty dove]

i guess the only way to make the devs aware of their unreasonable money (honey) pot is that everyone stops spending for a month at least.
Otherwise this money spiral will never end 🤷‍♂️

[steel musk]

but they use this way always.. not everyone could redem codes there limit always

[wide wraith]

so making events just for spenders doesnt give then an advantage?

[timid kelp]

My two closest SoS friends both quit in the same week... behemoth was the last straw for them

[gusty dove]

understandable

[solid oriole]

everyone will never stop. Few years ago there was an app, which just had ranking and virtual diomond. and the more you pay the bigger diomond will be. and a lot payed

[peak apex]

They didn’t in the past, they left things in the past and there were alot of complaints from those that missed out. Another solution would be to manually gift everyone all the codes but yeah I don’t think that would happen 😅

[solid oriole]

and payed huge money*

[steel musk]

I don't think that also🤣

[gusty dove]

i know. its impossible to get the community acting together 😦
Thats what their house of cards is build upon.

[solid oriole]

not really. it's my speculation, but theere a lot and a lot more packs than in previous years

i see it as the way developers want compensate decreasing of number of payers

though this way leads to destruction. Maybe i'm wrong though and it's not like this.

[unreal lichen]

this game tried to get foothold in steam and amazon and i dont know you seen what happened or not.

any platform that people can vote freely SoS is almost kicked to rubble in a week.

[gusty dove]

thats what I mean.
Some players have a bank account so huge that they dont care spending 10(00)k in the game.
And they dont care about more packs required to stay on top.
As long as they keep throwing money into this company, this company will continue, or even extend the P2W gameplay

[unreal lichen]

this is the company motto get even slapped for money and say thank you which reflects even in the mods behavior here. you dont need a unified community to real break the house of cards you just need to not spend. then you own them.

[steel musk]

If matchmaking on events like MM, svs, RR, etc are good then i don't care if they add more
I think they still need work more on matchmaking to make it balanced

[unreal lichen]

i have two VIP11 accounts. i do spend myself lets add as p.s.

but thats them.

[gusty dove]

whales dont care about this DC server and keep spending.
So our complaints are not even noticed by the devs

[solid oriole]

not all, but mostly yes. they have personall customer support, why they even need to write something here?

[steel musk]

yep GM

[gusty dove]

exactly.
Even if all low/mid spenders stop spending, the whales continue wasting their money and get support by personal customer support.
Nothing will change because of the feedback here, or with us all stop giving money to FP

@solid oriole

[solid oriole]

you are wrong

[unreal lichen]

here is a example from Chess might help you a Queen the post powerful and valued piece on the board cannot deliver a checkmate. it need help even if from a pawn.

[solid oriole]

the one thing will change - if you will stop spending you will have more free money for other stuff

[gusty dove]

chess has permanent and reasonable rules, SoS doesnt

[gusty dove]

true ☺️

[unreal lichen]

the rule applies a whale without joiners or something is a whale that listen.

i think people enjoy this game to a degree.

[solid oriole]

even without chess it's common market logic, that 1000 people by 2$ will give you more, than one person by 1000$

even more in perspective, because 1000 players can bring more players, and 1 not likely

[gusty dove]

I only see VVV, an alliance who just collects whales.
So at the end whales know how to cater.

[solid oriole]

popularity

[vague shard]

Maybe we could get some more different tasks in throwdown. In total 12 out of 18 tasks are buy bundle

[unreal lichen]

thing is the people that keep playing and spending and complaining. this company is set on this path. so like leave the whales how many are they to run the company for them without you. this is the golden age of online games. just dm me i tell you 1500 look alike game with higher quality and even cheaper prices.

[solid oriole]

you want gold fists?)

[gusty dove]

We all know, but KG seems to have a deficit in this matter

[unreal lichen]

or well just they do this this game as this point pay for pay you dont even pay to win because i play pay to win fine. pay to pay is you pay to pay more tomorow

something like taxes.

[gusty dove]

I know, two "insert your coin here" tasks are missing 😏

[solid oriole]

thank you, but i will not play any other online game for now. i already play one with very good story, somehow good gameplay, and withot any need to spend money at all

[unreal lichen]

in 8th centaury

[steel musk]

too many pay

[severe ice]

Tasks can be reset for the whole alliance giving everyone a chance to get points without spending

[still tapir]

They need monies

[solid oriole]

yes. but i noticed in my alliance two. i refreshed 4 times tasks in last two houtrs, and near 50% of tasks - are payment tasks

[wide wraith]

the Devs need to do what the majority asked for and just scrap TD

[severe ice]

I agree this new format has far too many bundle tasks.

[steel musk]

devs : 3 gold tasks with 2k points for each one.. will finish Migo tasks also by those tasks lol

[tidal apex]

Sadly not always true... To have that 1000 people willing to spend 2$ each they need to have 10000 players or even more than that since lot of people spend nothing. It cost to have nice infrastructure/servers handling that. Here they clearly keep showing us that the only type of player they care about is one that spends thousands weekly

[solid oriole]

to be honest i really don't care what will happen to game when i leave. I played a lot games, one of my prev game is still in top 50 by year income few years in a row, and the other closed in 3 monthes after i left (not because of me, ofc). But does it change anything for me? no)

[unreal lichen]

just dont spend i dont ask you to leave.

or if you then you are part of the problem like i am not solution and therefor dont complain

thats my like stand point.

[solid oriole]

you don't, developers ask. By not sending me my migo sotf crosstate rewards 🤣

[unreal lichen]

😆 .

[steel musk]

actully some when tell them don't spend, they spend more.. Somthing like a reverse physiology

[unreal lichen]

this game use a very recent psychological method to get you spending its not funplus idea this methos is created by smarter people and funplus took it to most greedy points possible only.

[gusty dove]

maybe someone should tell th devs that KotH is super fun.
Reverse physiology.
😏

[steel musk]

i bet they will remove it lol

[wide wraith]

i only stay now to talk with friends, the game itself is so boring and on course it doesnt help that a so called Community Manager couldnt manage their way out of a wet paper bag

[unreal lichen]

its like this consider a whale running a rally and no one join.

then the whale himself will come here and begin talking about your rights

[gusty dove]

thats would be awesome 😍

[solid oriole]

we have alliance, that is strongest in our state, but one moment they couldn't fill 1.8m of his rally.

[unreal lichen]

so back to the queen and pawn theory. if a whale exist it keep existing leaning on normal players

[gusty dove]

bring him here in this DC, maxbe devs will listen to your alliance's whale 🙏

[unreal lichen]

and fruastrated whales can do major damage to KG

[solid oriole]

sorry, i'm not in bad terms with him, but not in good too 😂 i will be tired just from explaining to him what i want from him

[unreal lichen]

but all of that i dont hate this game...i been around for so long to go back now. but for new players maybe this instead of just complaining here.

[gusty dove]

the problem with your analogy is that there are too many pawns that support your OP queen

[solid oriole]

i also like some events. like rr. and rr. and it's semms that's all

[unreal lichen]

but still its changing my friend you can't compare the 2021 SoS to 2023 SoS

they are now openly struggle to juice whales more and get a penny from free to play players

[steel musk]

let's focus on 1 bug... those devs lazy, can't fix many things

[unreal lichen]

i wrote state names instead of years damn

[solid oriole]

we don't have any other events with generally equal opponents, where strategy can decide something

[vague shard]

Rr and mm is fun. Svs fun when matching is good

[ember mantle]

The state merger got me spending again, got stuck in a state where im an ant, spent plenty trying to get up to at least a spider

nope still an ant

[solid oriole]

mm could be fun. But mm has very bad matchamking. last 10 or near mm we were grouped with alliances whe we could not scratch opponents with tripple rallies. And mm has too many lags and bugs, so it's too brain consuming to reboot game every 10-15 minutes

[vague shard]

Alliance duel is good now as well. Just sorry for the players that never learn to shield

[steel musk]

because that many players quited also
when f2p left for tap tap only because need strong joiners

[gusty dove]

i know.
The only solution is that everyone here, low, mid or high spnder, convinces the whales in their own alliance to stop spending for a month or more

[solid oriole]

not for us too. we are or too low in ranking and can figth with weak, or we win and can fight only against whales. than we loose and match with alliances that can scratch us instead. and so on. what's fun here?

[ember mantle]

I agree the tier matching is problematic

but thats why feedback is important

[steel musk]

that's point here.. Devs don't care about players feedback

[solid oriole]

yeah, yeah. they fixed TD as asked in feedbacks. I saw.
people asked why custom tasks gives less point than general tasks. Have they fixed it? 100% did. Though they not increased points in custom tasks, but decreased a lot general....
people asked that 2m points is too high. Did they decreased points for max rewards? definitely did. But decreased points from almost all custom tasks and general tasks even more

[ember mantle]

I have to think like an optimist

[gusty dove]

lucky you.
I gave up hoping that any feedback here does anything 😔

[unreal lichen]

i tell you a story. i wanted to delete my account. i went to customer service and i filled the delete my account section and they asked me to submit as many things as you need to enter oxford university. i did even that and then the customer service dude in one of the most frank responses ever i heard from a funplus guy said "you are a spender we dont remove spenders accounts"

[ember mantle]

It takes all kinds, some are glass half full some are glass half empty, and some are like woah you got a glass?

[unreal lichen]

and didn't even let me reply to ticket closed the ticket and asked me to call a number if i want to go on with my case.

[ember mantle]

I've never understood why bothering to close an account, just stop playing. it isnt like your credit card will be charged if you have an account

[solid oriole]

i'll just ask gov to send me to void

[gusty dove]

some are "when does your QA department manage to find the bug that every player found on the first day of release?"
some are, after more than 2 years, assuming "never"

[steel musk]

uninstall ( delete a game) .. way easier

[unreal lichen]

its a personal issue i may come back to addictions if they exist. i move on better if the option is all in all removed.

[ember mantle]

I can see how it would help mentally

[mighty gorge]

Unbind, uninstall. You can't recover the account then, so it's pretty much 'virtually' deleted.

[digital glacier]

Unless they bound to Funplus, then they need cs to remove that

[solid oriole]

hah, one of my teammates found out, that from her card were few payments whil she was on a break from game. so quite maybe

[digital glacier]

They call it addiction, makes them return, I call it lack of will power to stay away.

[mighty gorge]

I never used that, never really got the need to do so or indeed why it had to be a request to unbind, rather than just doing like you do with google/apple/VK etc

[wide wraith]

need the willpower of a CM, they seem good at staying away

[ember mantle]

I play through facebook gaming and accidently found my way into sos, was trying to go gather rewards somewhere else and misclicked. The tutorial intrigued me but was the chat that really sucked me in. 2 years later im still here, havent missed a day since that first misclick so I get the mental addiction part

[solid oriole]

wait till developers took you in-game rewards too

[digital glacier]

If you really quit playing. Or paying. Knowing sos history, it would be advised to call your bank and put a "stop payment" on the companies name.

By the way, there is currently 3 names sos use. On receipts.

[unreal lichen]

i mean the game is like in a way that you can buy two bundle for one price on iphone or change your computer clock and see your SVS opponent during the 48hours matchmaking. and if you think i'm talking top secret these bugs are known for ages now.

and what will happen for them?

nothing.

instead you get gen16

now go buy gen16

and spend your kidney on it to limitless it

[ember mantle]

i'd really like to keep my kidneys

[solid oriole]

i live in a country, where i sometimes need to confirm payment in the shop, so i'm "lucky" 😂

[severe ice]

They do seem useful

[gusty dove]

anonymous prepaid card dont tell them your bank account ☺️

[mighty gorge]

Apple is notorious for double charging or magic payments just appearing. I had a friend only last week get charged 3 times for one bundle (it wasn't FP)

[unreal lichen]

yeah i dont suggest selling kidneys =))

[ember mantle]

does anyone have anything they would like posted to feedback for them?

[solid oriole]

for now i spent only around 200$, got top 1 in svs and toip 1 in state sotf, and got almost maxed two heroes, chukon and marcos. (without skills upgrading and skill lvl though)

[gusty dove]

read this chat 😂

[ember mantle]

You knew I would ask eventually, optimist remember

[solid oriole]

I will post my feedback after one week. will be banned immediately in discord, but i will post 😂 though mods will have to be fast enough to block me, before i will leave server myself 😂

[digital glacier]

I want them to fix this resonating hero issue..... I solved the problem over a month ago.
7 new heroes, but this is still not fixed

[gusty dove]

feedback: Stop asking for more moey from 100 rich people.
Start asking for money from 10000000 not so rich people.
We all know its a P2W game, but having millions of low-spenders could give FP more money than having a declining incomme of thousands $ from a few high spenders.
And... fix bugs that are obvious to everyone who starts the game

[unreal lichen]

well i do think a lot of people do this game injustice too. i actually like this game. the social aspects the older states(the last state i joined and i will not join anything after is 1125) its good its good but its moving like they are moving it to hell with smiles and laughs and people quit and i love to enjoy my gaming even if its costing me its okay if it deliver joy. but then again servers in 1100 are empty grasslands and when you come here to say it you get into a pitch arguement with both mods and players.

it has some good and haven't passed the point of no return yet.

but we are getting close in my opinion

[ember mantle]

okay Secure whats the solution?

[solid oriole]

never played other than my only state (except if we don;t count that i changed state when states were merged), so will have to believe you in words

[gusty dove]

reduce prices.
Make bundles affordable for more players.
Then the community becomes more active, since less players quit

[ember mantle]

Okay will submit this for you, and thank you for giving us your thoughts on this

[gusty dove]

thanks 😘

[solid oriole]

it's you choice, but this feedback is harming other players 🤣 they will introduce more packs and that's all. but it's just top spenders will buy much more, your salary will not increase becasue of this

[gritty sluice]

Reduce prices?
This gon be the last thing f+ do

[tidal apex]

We are too far out there to resolve and try grabbing money from small spenders.

To make occasional spenders spend they would need to see good value in money spent. That means new features would need to cost hundreds of $ to max them, not thousands as it is now. They will not change it because their main income is from people who spent thousands weekly to max those expensive features. If they made them cheap their whale income would suffer.

[solid oriole]

press f to respect, press f+ to disrespect

[gusty dove]

right.
@ember mantle I forgot: stop offering OP heros/behemoths for tens of thousands of dollars which only whales can afford.
This will maybe let low spenders realize that spending a few bucks isnt a complate waste of money, and that their money spent in game is actually doing something

[mighty gorge]

Generally I've advocated the same view for some time. If you look at how monetization on mobile platforms work, there is a general formula around balance between promoting interest in new players to join, and retention of existing players. Many players right now are overwhelmed with what it costs to play and keep up, this means in newer states they quit quicker. It may well be too late for this game, but if you reduce prices to a level 'acceptable' to more players, you can retain revenue at the same level, but with a wider breadth of players.

The issue with FP, is their short sightedness, and trying to milk as much as they can from the small % rather than appealing the entire player base. Of course, their inability to deliver quality output also has an impact, and the amount of bugs and issues are unprecedent for the 4+ years the game has been around.

[gusty dove]

if you reduce prices to a level 'acceptable' to more players, you can retain revenue at the same level, but with a wider breadth of players
💯

[solid oriole]

i calculated few days ago how many diomonds i will need approximately to finish plane formation system. and it's more than 630.000 diomons, so more than 6300$

[tidal apex]

Here is exact reason why so few people spend in SoS- why spend 5, 10 or 20 $ from time to time if without spending thousands there is 0 visible difference

[solid oriole]

adn according that we finally got way to get this stuff from throwdown - f2p from my point of start will need just casual 6300 weeks

just 121 years to max it

[ember mantle]

I put the feedback in for you Secure, does anyone else have anything they would like for me to post before I move on?

[tidal apex]

Please do not tell them we need better rewards because then they will decide that we need to get 500k points to get them :p

[solid oriole]

and it's from my current start, i spent already a lot there. more than 1000$ at least

[tidal apex]

Someone earlier wrote really nicely how it should be working here- that basic rewards tiers in all events should be achievable for everyone without the need of months of savings.

Thats the way it works in normal games. Here we are so far out with KG thinking that the only solution to problems they caused (hero gen skipping) is offering discounted bundles. They did not even try to do anything gameplay related that would reward players, only thing they thought of was just bundles...

[mighty gorge]

🙈 I was here 1 hour after reset

[solid oriole]

"more players appear" 🤣

[formal nacelle]

Hello Sataya , that might be a good suggestion, you can bring it up here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606 by following https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110341802520748132.

[mighty gorge]

I have seen this feedback before, but I think there are also other issues. The impact isn't the display but the back end network endurance/throughput required to process the sheer volume of information between the client(s) and servers. Not to also mention how many potential and unnecessary additional threads are spawned as a result of bad coding. Then take things like condensed cross state events and FP's attempts of matching solutions, and you have a lot more happening at the same time, requiring significantly more processing

[formal nacelle]

I can do it for you if you prefer.

[mighty gorge]

I agree with you in the context of being able to switch it off. In my experience there are just also many other factors

[formal nacelle]

I understand your point of view when it comes to reducing the load on the graphics to make it faster.

[astral tree]

The biggest way fun plus can start fixing things is stop pushing out new ways to spend money and actually fix what's already here. Some of the bugs that have been reported have been ongoing problems for years. Yet fun plus choose to ignore these problems in favor of pushing out new features that are atleast as bugged as the ones they don't care to fix if not worse

[digital glacier]

That's what "lite mode switch" was for, but it works for only 0.1% of the stuff now 🤣

[tidal apex]

I would love being able to switch off ALL effects... Sentinels, hq skins, march skins, auras, statue effects, akin set effects and whatever more there is

Maybe then my phone would not freeze for few secs whenever I try to start trap rally or join one :p

[digital glacier]

When the aurars are blue for an entire alliance, I really have to focus, which are shielded and not shielded during times of war 🙈

[mighty gorge]

Wait for a few weeks until everyone is lit up like a Christmas tree with dancing sleighs and more area effect items.

[digital glacier]

Uh huh.

[slender merlin]

What the heck is this bs?

[gritty fiber]

Way more difficult than before

We almost need to take the speeds, speed all troops till they are ready and then take the Troop Train.

[digital glacier]

A troop training task

[gritty fiber]

Even then it’s not enough 😆

[digital glacier]

240 point task, 99% chance you will need bundles or the special tasks to reach your 15k point amount now

You're gonna need 341 point tasks now to hit 15k. 🙈 Good luck.

[gritty fiber]

The 1 exclusive task per day, i got 900 troop train…that helps a tiny bit urgh

[digital glacier]

15,000 solo target
43 max chances
348.9 points per task.

Minimum task point value should be no less than this amount.

[gritty fiber]

Gotta make another check list now

[digital glacier]

Ummm. What's with the 3 orange vials you lose of you don't finish the level with Leon 🙄

[digital glacier]

That's including the 1k bio chance every day..... So this event isn't f2p friendly anymore

[gritty fiber]

Yep. I used to spend 750 bios daily for all the extra chances up to the 1000 bio one

[digital glacier]

I never spent more than 250 bio in it For the last 2 years 🤣

[gritty fiber]

I just tried completing it leisurely and not getting grumpy about the 430s

[gritty fiber]

Do you have a screenshot?

Am not that far along in the process.

Sounds ominous

[digital glacier]

I just stupid my person exclusives

It doesn't show that Chris wasn't there 🤣

But yeah, I got ss of only 27 🤣

[gritty fiber]

Ahhhh

[digital glacier]

With SUCCESS and the finish line in the background

[olive sluice]

Useless fists are rotting until we delete them.
Can we also delete the useless devs?

[digital glacier]

1 month ago, that would be any sos players wet dream.

[gritty fiber]

This is what happens when we ask for change in Throwdown

[olive sluice]

yep. They ruined everything, one by one

[astral tree]

Here is how it looks....funplus is optimizing events in such a away that only spenders can complete any of them. The result of this is only spenders left who need to spend more to make up for the lack of people in empty states to fill rallies until even the spenders get tired of it. Then fun+ goes oh look this cash cow finally died let's move on to the next. ( Which is already in the app store fyi)

[gritty fiber]

Noticing that even rallies are less necessary now.

More efficient for a whale to solo

[digital glacier]

Who needs to rally when you have angelica, and 3 maxed resident evil heroes 🤣 let alone, gold level 200 behemoths with 43/44 maxed skills 🤣

Have you seen the crazy damage these RE heroes do when set with the right heroes... Not including tempest gears of behemoths 😅

It's like, rewind to when olly got released.
Then multiply it by 3 for all 3 hero slots 🙈

[gritty fiber]

Boom 😬

[solid oriole]

And what's the right heroes?)

[astral tree]

Cms who haven't posted in months....customer support suspended.....events designed to run non spenders away....and there are still those who think this game will see 2025?

[digital glacier]

Depends if you want to play with amplify your strengths or strengthen your weaknesses.

[digital glacier]

It'll be around for a while. They are still profiting money from us.

[astral tree]

I have to time my actions in this game. On average I get 10 maybe 15 minutes before lag and freeze kick in. So I'm constantly looking for that 1 or 2 minute window to relog before it hits me

[modest moss]

is there any news how fp will handle the koth issue at 3 utc? It’s not only participating players but also those who placed a bet on these matches , who are waiting

[gritty fiber]

Not yet

It’s been a long wait

[digital glacier]

@gritty fiber
Devs need to lower the cost of the migo research.

Another thing devs released that's impossible to achieve without spending money.

[tame jackal]

I just saw that the new heroine costs only 46k dollars on the PTR 😆

[astral tree]

They gotta do this. They need to release things for the big spenders that will also let them continue to solo against rallies as there is no one in the state to join their rallies

[solid oriole]

it was never achievable. you could'nt max migo tree in migo 2-9 even iof you coould always be in top 30

you need at least one time top1, or two times top10 before to max migo trree. Though now migo tree gives much more advantages

[tidal apex]

Dont worry, ptr is not final. Live release will go x2, 92k :p

I really hope whales will stop spending and do some big organiser strike... It is sick that anything in the game could cost that much

[tiny pivot]

$46,000US??? Got to be joking right?!?!

[tidal apex]

People bought Angelica when she was what, 14k? If even 1/3rd of them buy this new hero it will still be a win for them

[tiny pivot]

🥹

[digital glacier]

I'm actually making a list. It's with the values I have, which I'm missing a good bit.
There's hope actually, but you would have to hit every target

[digital glacier]

I maxed a few buildings without buying bundles. My yith maxed

[tidal apex]

In this game it is equally players being the problem and the developer... If there were no people dropping that crazy amounts of money then game overall cost would not keep on rising with every new update...

[digital glacier]

Migo 1 was slightly off, but that was my stupid F.up. ... It was way too good for me to avoid it. Oh well.

[spice jungle]

they need money for christmas bonuses

[timber cargo]

Angelica was beyond expensive, but this is just comical now. Sad thing is we will see a few people achieve that score…

[solid oriole]

not a few. minimum 10 in our group of states. or maybe more.

[timber cargo]

Probably. They are definitely people playing this game with tens of millions of dollars, some probably worth $100 million that see this as chump change.

[marble grove]

one way to get whales to spend $2k on 1 item 😂

[solid oriole]

skill is ok, but one fiol, and 3 common stats. meh

[tardy night]

Standard procedure for them. A reverse bait and switch.

Show high priced desirable stuff. Make everyone think it's out of reach. Have everyone complain about it. Lower price at release to be affordable to the first tier of spenders who then rush in to not miss out. The stuff gets sold at the price they intended to sell it at all along.

Crap selling trick also employed by real estate agents.

[fleet flint]

What the hell why did throw-down task increased

Now you have to train 3x times as much troops just to clear 1 task STUPID!!!

[magic anchor]

they called it "optimized"

Optimization of Normal Tasks: We will re-add the “Increase the troop power” task to the task list.

[olive sluice]

I wonder if one of those two is sponsored by the devs... 🤔

[tiny quiver]

They need to make the amount needed larger so it can be read

[pallid willow]

Just make 2 pow pools a pool of maxed players and a pool of normal people 🤗 based on their behemoth, or would that make them cry 🤔

[stable cosmos]

Already did a version of that feedback. Spenders don't like it much.

[fleet flint]

Agree I hate that I can’t even see my progress I had to take a screenshot just to zoom in

[red scroll]

I love how the discord for SoS is a dumpster fire of complaints all of the time. I never see anything good from anyone in feedback. It's always complaining. I wished the devs could see how everyone hates their games and their updates. Throwdown is a complete nightmare. They ask you to do so much for so little points. There's no way f2p players can do rss draining events every week.

[frigid vault]

AT is very bad but still very easy as f2p to get migo points and ignore the rest of it

[wooden dew]

Hi Grandma Cherub, the text there is definitely small. It would be nice if it were larger so one doesn’t have to squint to make out the value. Thanks for sharing. I’ll forward that.

[fleet flint]

It’s feedback @red scroll throwdown in my opinion didn’t need to be “optimized” lower the troop power up task, increase the font size of our progress once a task is selected and a lot of people will be happy.

[red scroll]

I know. I actually do love it, though, in a cynical way. It just makes me realize I'm not alone in what I'm feeling about a game that we all used to love.

[red scroll]

using 3-4 days worth of speedups to get 420 points is not what I call easy tbh.

[fleet flint]

Same I like the game don’t hate it yet 😉 but I do dislike some updates like troop drill what is the point in wasting stamina for task???

[fleet flint]

Agree

[olive sluice]

Don't ask the devs to "optimize" something! We've all seen what they think about optimizing - it will end in another disaster

[red scroll]

not only that. More and more things are REQUIRING stamina to complete, like the dreadbeast rallies. Either they need to make stamina replenish faster or give us research to give us more stamina. Say 300 instead of 200.

doing ONE rally at a time with travis makes things go on for way too long.

[olive sluice]

I do everything with travis, one by one... it needs way too much time.. and I'm still always low on stamina, can't do a PZ every day

[frigid vault]

Don't take this task next time, you got the explore, farming, rallies, infectads all easy and f2p friendly and with 5 free tasks a day it is easy to get 7500 points

[red scroll]

who has that much time? With everything else they require?😅

I am not trying to be difficult. I really don't want to spend several hours a day in front of the game.

[frigid vault]

You do these things anyway

[red scroll]

you have to do more of them than I want to for Throwdown. It's not that I don't do them. But doing 10-15 explorer missions for a task is different that doing 2 for intel.

and you have to do at least 10 different explorer mission tasks (so that's about 100-150 explorer missions) to even put a dent on the points needed.

[frigid vault]

You got the plunder button now, you do 10 explore in 20 seconds

Don't waste stamina on explore intel (unless your are not lvl60 yet and then do it)

[red scroll]

I didn't actually realize there was a plunder button. When did that happen?

[wide garden]

About two months ago?

[red scroll]

🤯

[tacit gorge]

😂 I just discovered it yesterday. Ripping through Throwdown tasks now,

[stable cosmos]

Troop drill is actually pretty excellent as a bios source. 5 stamina for 200-300 bios is fine by me. Never change it.

[pallid willow]

When are they going to add a penalty for those who don’t accept matches? Im tired of those idiots 😒

[twilit sun]

✅

[vocal lily]

STATE OF SURVIVAL MAKE IT WHERE TROOPS TRAIN THEMSELVES

[digital glacier]

Food for thought for anyone who sees this.
Instantly completing the a 200% troop power up
450 % training speed
Only green is better for power than for speedups

[astral tree]

I see people making commits about the teams in path of water....my question is if you are trying to rank up how do you do it without forming a team???? If you play solo you will lose more than you win because of all the crack chickens who wanna just run around the whole time instead of fighting to control building.

[digital glacier]

I ran solo a good bit.
30 games and went up 3 ranks.
It sucks, but it's whatever.
5 fights were +/-100 points.
Time consuming for sure. It's hard now with spenders with RE heroes 😑
Im about over it. I used to enjoy it a decent bit. But that enjoyment is fading fast for this event.

[astral tree]

I have moved from gold 1 to platinum 1 today because I play on a team where everyone is on the same page. Once you get there and start getting the 3 win in a row bonus and maybe a MVP or 2 you rank up extremely fast. I played 12 solo rounds since it opened this time I lost 9 won 3 and majority of losses was not because the other team was so much stronger it was because 3 of 5 people on team wanna run back and forth the whole as is losing but not dying if somehow a good thing

[short patio]

I just play it to get the crates..after that its whatever..

[astral tree]

I like that badge tags are in the shop. I play for tickets to buy those

[solemn gulch]

daily reminder for people still complaining here
"bugs doesn't make game lose money won't be fixed"

[rocky otter]

people communicate with each other and share their problems. I know developers are greedy creatures and I would never defend it. But to give an example, people complained a lot and td points down. It's still shty, but the points are down. So in short, if you don't want to see these, gtfo

[stable cosmos]

Gods what is this 💩 that said if they "optimise" search any further it'll probably give the same stuff but cost polymer

[dawn otter]

"The development team has taken the players' suggestions into consideration and plans to implement optimizations in the upcoming round of the event."
Stunning hypocrisy as always. Aren't they ashamed at all?
Show me a player with a feedback suggesting this.
6x full P10 Crystal troop training for 450 points. That's 5 days (6x 20 hours) of training time.
Devs lost it completely. Abandoning of the states increasing. 3 people only from my alliance left instantly because of this absurd throwdown change.

[last hazel]

Hiya, it's definitely needs to be changed, I did 3 batches of my t12s and I didn't even reach the half of this task and gave up on it. Can you please report it in #📋︱feedback-reporting ?

[dawn otter]

The changes devs made after "listening to players" actually mathematically trippled the Throwdown difficulty.

[unreal lichen]

3 T12 batches T_T omg

[last hazel]

This might be a bug, I don't think it should be like that, either the task score has to be increased or the requirements of the task should be reduced. I totally agree with you here

[dawn otter]

My alliance was by now somewhere at 14-15 milestone last throwdown.
This throwdown we are only at 5th.

[dawn otter]

Yeah it's so bad.

[wide wraith]

if the Devs had actually listened to the players, there would be NO Throwdown

[dawn otter]

Same like Mining Mayhem. They created an abomination they can't handle.

[unreal lichen]

A lot of us loved the throwdown, especially the gold fists. It's listed as top #2 in feedback for the first week of December. You can upvote it here: #💫feedback-dec-2023 message

I would really love TD to be rolled back but with better rewards ! 🎁

[wide wraith]

whats the point, the Devs have proved time and time again they dont listen. Even the CMs are no longer interested, not that they ever were. its like no one cares especially since KG were taken off the game intro

[unreal lichen]

With all of the player's support, I think we can really make a little difference! 😇

[wide wraith]

but its not all players and they know it, its a tiny proportion who are in this discord

[potent flint]

Why did some people get KOTH compensation and others didnt?

[cloud ridge]

@merry scroll / @feral sinew / @gray dragon When will the correct SOTF cross ranking rewards be issued to players.

You can't just use 4 imaginary states in SOTF as an excuse for this and have it go unnoticed for a whole week. It's dumb and even an achievement by your standards.

[gilded maple]

Is there any chance 1270 will be getting the xmas event? Anyone know for certain?

[marble grove]

Yes as it'll create them income

[storm solstice]

none has it so far afaik - will start tmrw on live server

Oh, 1270....and it is only to 1269 scheduled - got it

[stable cosmos]

Throwdown is such an easy fix. Return all tasks to previous. Return all targets to previous. Leave the rewards as they are. Rework the custom exclusive tasks a little so they still exist but maybe don't offer quite so many total points per day. Their point ratio is about correct for the old style. Just not when you let someone spend 4000 plasma

[magic anchor]

its there in some states.. s1153, s1132, s1135, s1152,s1128 (based on building owner list). its already in 3rd day already

[strong grove]

Really?

[magic anchor]

everyone seems to be enjoying it

[rocky otter]

Hidden treasure isn’t a event, future tycoon just roll some dice and gone, lucky grarrison isn’t a event, feeding frenzy isn’t an event if you don’t buy bundles, you eventually do infected cleanup with intels, value voucher isn’t an event. They all just take up space and ask for money. I don't see any real events to play (maybe pow)

[strong grove]

😯

[quasi compass]

100k points.

Damn

[unreal lichen]

What has happened to heist?

[strong grove]

Bug again?

😬

[unreal lichen]

Yep you have to click out of game completely and go back in

Honestly I’m sick of the game right now so guess I need to go feedback rather than rant here

[warm phoenix]

Hi Mrs. Scarlet. Yes you can send your suggestion to #📋︱feedback-reporting it would be great

[unreal lichen]

Thank you lovely I’ve done a few the past couple of weeks so hopped off to do it.

[stable cosmos]

Heist obviously randomly not working. Me and an alliance mate were fine. Just disappointed we were on different maps, again

[unreal lichen]

Yeah that’s sad but saves your team mate ramming in to you I’ve had that before

[wide wraith]

the lag was terrible on Heist as per normal, no good reporting as they dont care, they will be more interested in this xmas junk

[pallid willow]

I don’t like how the new update notes sound like 🙄

[wide wraith]

its basically scam-fest all over again

[unreal lichen]

I did wonder how they might ruin packet drop after realising they were generous last time 😥

Standby for bitter disappointment folks

[stable cosmos]

That was the goal. We had no desire to play through and were just going to smack each other a bit

[wide wraith]

i hope no one buys anything and this xmas junk or spendfest2 fails totally

[stable cosmos]

Ok. Next complaint about throwdown. After 5 chances you pay 1000 for the 6th and then can't do any more at all. Why is this limit here? What exactly is this to stop? Its like you want us to empty our backpacks and then prevent anyone doing so. Take this garbage back to the drawing board would you?

[wide wraith]

maybe it will be like the CMs and disappear

[stable cosmos]

Events are always released. Even when buggy and exploitable

[wide wraith]

maybe the Mods can find out if the CMs have been fired for not doing anything

[pallid willow]

But what is that new building for vehicles tho?

[wide wraith]

god knows, wont see it till at reset

of course, it doesnt matter as they will only be for spenders, so the Mega Whales will have them and no one else

[silent burrow]

what the hell did i just seen about plasma tanks

[high karma]

Another way for you open your wallet

[steel musk]

good i didn't see yet lol

Who write feedback here he has alot hope

[pallid willow]

Is basically like another garbage airplane but on the garbage grass

[unreal lichen]

3rd behemoth basically

X3

Per troop type 😂🤣

[unreal lichen]

Ouch

[worn pewter]

Gonna need a syringe and 50 mil each type of resources for missing out in the free for all stage

[unreal lichen]

What about migo rankings

[worn pewter]

And that

[unreal lichen]

Sorry friend, that sucks

[worn pewter]

It does for real

[unreal lichen]

Game is good

[worn pewter]

I was top 50 because of fighting in buildings. When it ended we could not fight anymore like we usually can. That is when I push top 5 typically

[worn pewter]

@merry scroll this seem like legit compensation to you?

It doesn’t to me

[steel musk]

Devs think it's too much

They were discussing between them about 2 limitless frags to reduced it to 1 frags or keep it 2

If Saberlot answered you here today, i quit
because I am sure he won't answer you

[wide wraith]

not sure he even still works for the company, even the mods havent answered when i asked them yesterday

[steel musk]

he still

[jovial falcon]

Observation: Your Lies and Disrespect to your players.

During the Anniversary Event, you made an announcement that due to a lot of feedback, you would be slowing down on new releases once the Anniversary Event had ended. This was welcomed by the large majority of the community. Since the Anniversary Event ended, not only did you ignore the feedback and your own promise, but the releases are coming faster than ever before with another new release already scheduled.

Consequence: Not only do you lose the trust of the community, not only do you lose the respect of the community, but the updates from the releases come loaded with bugs that most never get fixed. You force a new wave of players to leave the game and you show no shame in the fact. Very slowly even the big spenders are quitting.

Solution: Gain the respect of the community by delaying the plasma tanks and issuing an apology to every single player in the game for the lies you continue to sprout. Most of all, issue an apology to all your team on discord who have to put up with the aftermath of your kindergarten quality updates that you should be ashamed of. There is not a developing company anywhere to my knowledge that wouldn’t feel ashamed with the quality you hand out.

State: By now I assume every state.

I’m banned from feedback reporting so yeah if a mod can post that then great

[steel musk]

no need trust me.. devs won't care about that...

[tidal apex]

They said they were slowing down for a week only :p

[warm phoenix]

I will help to post this Chief

[worn pewter]

search his name in the search bar, he has talked quite a bit in in the past month

[worn pewter]

what about the new hero selina, you didn't even mention that which will only be able to be obtained by the same rich people that obtained angelica. if you have not seen the math, it would require being top 30 to obtain her and spending $46,000.00

[charred swift]

Wow, $2 prize for the best entries in Camp Cafe. Good to see the devs are consistent and it’s not just bundles that get a 5000% discount.

[mighty gorge]

🙄 Whats next, underground mole burrowing vehicles, maybe even Sharks with friken lazers.

[worn pewter]

Currently, a strong alliance can manage to possibly beat an alliance that is not strong but has one whale that is capable of obtaining angelica, if that same whale obtains selina now they can put angelica in one march and selina in another and be unbeatable in 2 marches

also, might as well change the name of the game now

[tidal apex]

They will cut cost in half on full event release and whales will be like
"Whoah she is so cheap! I feared it would be 46k but it is only 23k. Ima buy 2!"

[worn pewter]

Mech Wars: Zombie/player farming v. whale's matter only

pow is a whale wins only now

ever single match i play someone has angelica

[tidal apex]

PoW for me is just hoping first that I am not matched against whale team and second that my team whale is stronger and/or smarter than enemy whale. I barely have any effect on the outcome of the game....

[worn pewter]

and since when is a solo que going against a whale premade team?

[tidal apex]

Since they released team feature?

[worn pewter]

this happens to me atleast every other time

solo should be solo people on both teams. no premade groups at all

[junior nest]

I remember one of the feedback was to make like 2 type of pow :
1st That u can use ur real march and 2nd withva standard march that is same for everyone (ofc with a bit of mess rewards )

[worn pewter]

Any strong player will not bother playing the standard one

Nonetheless, the event is rigged to put teams against solo random groups

If you want to try to make it fair make it to where those with Angelica can only que in with those that have her

That hero is broken

[junior nest]

We can upvote this
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[worn pewter]

i went ahead and upvoted it but angelica needs to be reomved and whales compensated according to what they spent and selina needs to not be released

once the whales have both and people have to face them, thousands will quit playing

many already have since angelica

the tanks do not provide that much of an increase compared to either of those heroes

[steel musk]

so you mean you will wait an answer 1 month?

[worn pewter]

release the tanks and kill both the impossible heroes

[junior nest]

For me, it is just about matchmaking people with similaires stats etc
Its also boring if u face all the time stronger people or weaker one

[tidal apex]

Rigged yes and no.

Their mistake was making cross state team up possible. It allows for extremely strong teams. Like Maxed maxed players in one team. This makes finding opponent for them near impossible because only few people are THAT strong, there are whales and WHALES that eat smaller whales on breakfast.

In normal pc games that care about fair matching it creates a problem for top 0.001% of best players and causes them really long queue times because it wants to create fair teams. Here they do not want anyone to wait and it is impossible to find a fair match for a team made out of 5 WHALES within 2 minutes

[worn pewter]

i mean i will tag him whenever i am on here to annoy him until he does respond, it takes a few seconds out of my time to provide him with many annoying tags

[tidal apex]

Hence it ends up just assigning randomly 5 people as sacrifice to a WHALE team

[worn pewter]

that is the point

the game feeds regular players to whales at all times

how long ago was angelica released

6 months? 8 months?

[tidal apex]

Yes and it is mostly done on purpose. They lie about fixi ng matchmaking but matchmaking is not broken in the first place. It works exactly like they designed it for

[worn pewter]

They are already releasing another hero just like her that is equally broken (maybe more so) that is , like angelica, impossible for those not in the 0.001% to obtain.

[steel musk]

I think so. inf / raider / hunter

[tidal apex]

New hero is for millionaires only or those willing to sell a house 🤣

[worn pewter]

exactly

whales matter only

[marble grove]

Please don't say this is the Christmas event you chose?

[worn pewter]

the gap was widened exponentially with angelica and will be an impossible gap with selina

[timber gyro]

Can i ask what is the Point of crystal mine lvl 9? Only my strongest march can beat it that means around 95% or even more ppl cant do it at all.

[marble grove]

Already impossible with angelica, since you cannot get her since that event 😂

[worn pewter]

i would say no

[marble grove]

Dropped once and they being out new instead of letting others get it

[worn pewter]

although i do not think either hero should be in the game

[tidal apex]

Gap is already impossible. I logger in every single day, take part in all events, maybe missed trap few times and maxed whale can decimate me just by sending in 50k march 🤣

[marble grove]

I dont understand why we have 3 types of resonate heroes

[worn pewter]

if an alliance only has one whale with angelica it is still possible to win if your alliance is strong enough even without someone that has angelica, my alliance has done it in RR

but it is insanely difficult and almost not worth trying to do

going against angelica is already unfair

going against both will make a lot of people quit

[marble grove]

I remember back in the day when participating would be helpful

[worn pewter]

in the days that mutliple rallies and ghost rallies could defeat a whale

[tidal apex]

Skill matters in RR but only when you have few people strong enough to contend. When your double rallies are not kicking enemy out of buildings and average player level is weaker which means enemy gets most water tanks then no amount of genius strategy can help.

[worn pewter]

i completely agree

[marble grove]

Yes and not needing your whale to set the rally and ghost himself because noone else is strong enough 😂

[worn pewter]

i do believe we are on the same side of things

[worn pewter]

i remember when Mr. Roboto would rally and I would ghost rally for svs and we would never lose and I was not that strong at the time

But it was enough

[marble grove]

I remember double rallying full 10 as weak p8 and p9 and winning bunker 😂

[worn pewter]

now i am stronger to scale than ever but if i rally against an angelica I wound maybe 100k

[worn pewter]

me too

[last hazel]

Well personally, if I face a player in RR with having Angelica, I would lose , but even if such player doesn't have Angelica, I will still lose,
😅

[marble grove]

Made the p10 quit by killing 600m worth of troops in 2 days too 😂

[worn pewter]

while if i rally a minor whale, i can take out more than half of the rally

[worn pewter]

the good old days

[marble grove]

Yeh when Humanize was still about 😂

[worn pewter]

yea

i talked to him yesterday lol

[tidal apex]

Heck before whole zoo following march additions, when it was just p5 in cap fights fully f2p could kick out a whale if they perfectly timed 2-3 rallies. Now 3 rallies from f2p on a whale will wound a total of 5-10k troops 🤣

[worn pewter]

this is when the game was at it's prime

[wooden dew]

Hi Alicja, unfortunately in its current state, as you mentioned, there is no point for the 95% who cannot complete it. Fortunately, a recent update in the #⭐︱game_information message channel indicates that it will be adjusted such that less troops are injured, which may translate to a lower overall difficulty. Additionally, there will be some extra completion rewards attached to them. Together, those changes may make farming those resources more worthwhile. These adjustments will take effect as of the upcoming reset, so we’ll see soon. Hope that helps!

[marble grove]

😂

[mighty gorge]

You've linked out to the RE crossover.

[echo pulsar]

are you f2p? in an f2p alliance? cos that is so not true 😂😂

[worn pewter]

it was true

2 years ago

[tidal apex]

I am not f2p and in a very not f2p alliance

[worn pewter]

it is very not true today

[marble grove]

Back before monkey and dino, game actually had stratergy... now its just $$$

[worn pewter]

but there are those of us that played this game prior to there being a zoo and an air force