📋︱feedback-discussion

[steel musk]

I vote for remove devs

[tardy night]

be interesting to see what their numbers are after 2 runs of throwdown

[gritty sluice]

no more update I see

[woven spire]

We are at 1.5 vvv at 2mil almost😂

Number 3 1.4

[tardy night]

yea first run some will compete hard, is why it will be interesting to see their numbers in the second and third run

[steel musk]

already there 🤣

[gritty sluice]

Up vote done!

[steel musk]

they don't care about feedback tho

[tidal apex]

Fully agreed. First run is hardly representing anything. It is third or fourth when people already emptied backpacks that shows how viable it is to reach required goals

[steel musk]

I think they will change it next throwdown

new SOFT was like that.. and they changed it

[terse agate]

And like SOTF, they knew it upfront

They just like to bully players

[steel musk]

yes

[terse agate]

It can’t be another reason, just bullying with making nearly impossible quests

[steel musk]

looks they test events in live server.. to see if players will spend or not, doing it or not, how many complaint or not..

i guess they have alts in states also so they know what happen in each states.. they already know most alliances didn't complete throwdown.. only 1 alliance maybe got 2 mil.. i doubt if they will get above 1 mil next throwdown lol

[terse agate]

They never test….
They just throw everything in live…
And yes, I agree, they wanna figure out how to milk the cow best to get the most revenue….

[steel musk]

to add the alliance which got 2 mil.. will lose prep

[terse agate]

Perhaps looking here sometimes might help them to get more revenue 🤣😂

[steel musk]

most tasks it's bundles.. there 3 options for it in new throwdown

1 bundle, 3, and 5
450 points.. 1k i guess, and 2k points

[terse agate]

And the rest of the tasks are downgraded…
No fists for instance…
“But, we did ad some extra chances for using bios”

And I am not even looking at the personal tasks…..
They used to give more then the regular ones, but not anymore….
It’s just an extra way to empty your backpack

[steel musk]

could use bio task.. 1 time only every throwdown.. not more .. for active vip..

[terse agate]

Same🤣😂🤣

[terse agate]

And to buy value vouchers

[steel musk]

same here

[stable cosmos]

Used to be spending 100 plasma would get you 2-3 targets and you could KINDA say that 100 plasma bought you that stuff. A legendary frag, some bios, maybe some plasma. Not really unreasonable. This one 100 plasma literally buys you nothing. And at say... 400 plasma, you don't get 400 plasma worth of stuff

[terse agate]

Previously I also used it to buy golden frags in the vip store…..
But that’s kinda useless now as well🤣😂🤣😂

[steel musk]

they changed heros to limitless 🙈

[terse agate]

Yeah, we changed the way to upgrade heroes, but we won’t change the VIP store or the VIP rewards……
You players got everything way too easy in the past
#milkthatcow

[tacit gorge]

Agreed Throwdown is garbage. How is it beneficial to offer “exclusive” tasks that pay less points per item used than the standard tasks? 😂 We’re not stupid, most of us can do basic maths. We’re not emptying our backpacks for “better rewards”, only to find we get no rewards because the alliance points required are unachievable.

[steel musk]

they ruined game

[terse agate]

That they started with when they added monkeys and planes to the game.
Before the game was all about strategy….
If you would time rallies, you could beat a strong alliance…..
Not anymore

[terse agate]

They assume we are stupid

[steel musk]

it's about 1 rally + strong joiners

now

[tardy night]

Many are though.

[terse agate]

Stack golden behemoths and maxed planes

[tidal apex]

Test version of throwdown had troop training tasks. Live version suddenly have use training speedups instead. Test server is a joke, all they check there is if update is installing and game turning on 🤣

[terse agate]

Live servers are for the true tests

[terse agate]

As long as the game turns on, other bugs are no issue 🤣😂

[steel musk]

let's see how svs matchmaking will be tomorrow ..
hope they fixed this one at least

[tidal apex]

Only bug they care about is if you would be unable to spend money. If it takes money but do not give items then it is not that important :p

[iron palm]

The hope... 😆

[terse agate]

Bahahaha!
No

[steel musk]

the hope before get bad matching 😂

[tidal apex]

MM matching is great, this mm my alliance got whole map for ourselves. Enemies did not even try to fight us wnd there was simply nothing they could do...

[steel musk]

where was devs when they did this matchmaking.. it's totaly balanced

[terse agate]

Same, we only got the points from FF04 because the other state didn’t put their strongest there (which they could) to have some fight

Super balanced matchings 🤣😂🤣😂

[tardy night]

The motto of f+ games is : lose all hope, all non billionaires who enter here

[steel musk]

not my state just an ex about matchmaking

[gritty sluice]

I'll call Elon musk to try this game

[steel musk]

yes he will make it better.. 5$ to log in

this for 1 day

[terse agate]

Need to get a monthly subscription to play without ads…🤣😂🤣

If you didn’t get the monthly subscription, and you look at the tempest arms once, your state chat will be flooded with the nice tempest arms players from other states got…

Better not look in your behemoth building

Since that will soon flood your state chat as well

[rocky otter]

At least we had troop training task everyday, we would do max points but devs wouldn’t get money by this way

[terse agate]

Yeah, too easy

[winter canyon]

Why would any small player want to spend money when we are too far behind anyway...

Even if I started spending $10k a month I will not catch up... it's not possible at all

By the time we can get both behemoths to 200/46 skills, there are already so many features and we will still be weak

[terse agate]

That’s basically what they are hoping for….
Players that start spending on the new stuff, so they can catch up.
Each time making the new stuff OP.
This will push current spenders to spend more and new spenders to catch up.

[rocky otter]

You are %100 right. But I’m thinking people feel happy when their march power increasing. But it’s useless spenders will burn with just one hit 😂

[cosmic tulip]

🥺 It looks highly unlikely I will get all the possible rewards for throwdown this week. Developers really need to consider the impact and demotivation the changes have made to their player base and the sustainability of this event.

[normal peak]

Jeeze you wasted so many supplies

[cosmic tulip]

Not much, normal JTG requirements

[normal peak]

Well I guess a lead like yourself needs to keep up with the big people 🤭

[cosmic tulip]

To bite there ankles… 🥲

[normal peak]

Better then what I can do…just blow in their ears

[cosmic tulip]

Sigh, the direction of the game is another topic.. but we can reminisce when it was good ah

[normal peak]

The direction of the game is going downwards…they know to kill the game you need to kill the social aspect..like everyone saying they don’t quit because of the people they meet..what have the devs done? They killed state chat with the tempest arms banners..besides forcing that garbage on us now they kill the chat too

[cosmic tulip]

It’s because they’ve employed gyno. “Can’t beat him, so join him and use his ideas” 😂

[normal peak]

No they will release him back into Migo again

Then it will be 2 chats killed

[cosmic tulip]

This is “test”… give it time.

[normal peak]

No test…feature

[cosmic tulip]

Needs more time to build bots

[normal peak]

So now they don’t need mods

539 doesn’t have a mod and I got muted

[cosmic tulip]

Yep, his evil plan in action

We have a mod in migo, but doesn’t talk

Owl profile pic

😏 bad mod

😂

[rain swallow]

It's a shame that the "improved" TD prizes are unattainable, the last day of the event and my Alliance has barely reached lvl 10, and we have many active members, but they are not the type of active members that Funplus likes, the vast majority of us are light spenders and F2P,we are the disposable type😌

[cosmic tulip]

There’re saying without saying that spenders should group together to benefits from the change..

🙁

[rain swallow]

I honestly just wish they would take TD away from MIGO, so spenders could compete with each other without any problems 😂

[charred swift]

Why doesn’t help and support just have one button you press to report a bug and not some ‘hidden’ code you have to enter - give that as feedback

[short patio]

because then many people will use it out of user-friendliness of it. and they probably have one cs guy for all their games copy pasting replies..😆

[digital glacier]

That sucks. Many mods can't tell sarcasm, some can't take a joke. It's not hard. They don't need to take it like a D...

Also, mods should not have power to mute players in POW! But it happens.

[distant gull]

GG State of Survival

[fallow lodge]

Truth is we should all stop playing throwdown. These new rewards aren't worth anything, Devs should keep spenders ability away from most events. There's not even a need for it spenders have enough skin events etc etc where they can stretch there egos....get there daily buy packs look at me moment

[digital glacier]

If they really wanted to kill state chat, and make it more annoying on players, they would start adding announcements for players who bought bundles 😂

Over the past 4 years I have seen sos add more and more events and rankings for alliances. Merge into more active alliances or severely lose rewards.
But this throwdown, it's all about spenders joining one place. Which for some events, like throwdown itself hurts then for the solo rank within their own alliance 😂 so the way the devs have designed the rewards, and what you think they're trying to do, with what I think too. Negates the whole concept.

2 years ago, developers added a damage tier ranking system for trap. So no longer were players competing against one another for the first place rewards, they were playing collectively for this.
Well, throwdown has been around 4 years, and this solo performance hasn't changed. We're still competing against one another for better ranking rewards. Which, contradicts the system mail they sent for the change of the trap rewards system.

[cosmic tulip]

While it's not part of migo I would advice everyone to boycott (F2P - 1%) until we see some drastic changes to throwdown. I only talk about accessing the basic rewards, not the leader board attached.
There are many events that spender's can engage with but this isn't the problem. You forget, mid spender's and above need every rewards the game offers to support there personal growth to fight to remain relevant. The game is incredibly expensive and the direction of the game is frightening. If we only had the thinking it's all just about ego and flexing, the game will only continue down this path. People's personal pockets have a limit and not all can buy buy buy. If developers and the capable focused on just skin events this would have a wider impact and make those events even more exspensive, with very little rewards for personal growth for everyone but them.
Throwdown needs to be readjusted to allow it to include every lvl, it's after all a alliance event and 99% alliance's have some low spender's / F2P.

[lime zealot]

In regards to new TD> there was a request for "harder, but more rewarding events", but these events need to be doable/have reasonable requirements.
When majority of top 3-top 5 clans cant hit requirement, it is a clear indicator that developer doesnt understand what he is doing, or uses only big spenders for calculations.

[upbeat cargo]

Hmmmm

[fallow lodge]

I totally agree bud I'm a mid spender so I try for every free bit I can.. throwdown was way better rewards. Ego in some part has to be blamed too(mostly Devs) if whales weren't so eager to facilitate the Devs greed would the Devs be pushing everyone else. Yes I agree the whales or big spenders are also trapped in the Devs devious plans to empty people's bank account, but even me as a mid- mid spender is also to blame. We are allowing this to happen to the game...the more we are pressured by Devs to push that button they will just keep demanding more push which will just keep hurting the f2p and low spenders more..these people are the back bone of the game. So the question is are the whales and the spenders helping the Devs kill the game. You can request changes from the Devs all yous want but the fat cats are sat round a table deciding which free event to grab cash from next

[normal peak]

They finally added good rewards to throwdown..problem is they are unattainable

They laugh at f2p to mid spenders while they dangle a carrot in front of them

[fallow lodge]

And not too many for what needs using....at least triple the milestone to maybe make it worth it

[normal peak]

You mean one gorilla frag won’t make it gold level

🤭

[cosmic tulip]

I can demand or contact gm…. But alas I am a mid spender too and you are right not much will change until we all group together. All I ask is to get the basic rewards, which has been the norm for many years. ^^

[normal peak]

It won’t happen..whales will keep spending and some f2p are stupid and waste supplies on throw down and not prep

So throwdown won’t change

The devs want to stop hoarders…look at sotf

[fallow lodge]

All I know is I used 420 bio battery other day they gave me 420 points instead of 4200 .I got 90 bio batteries in mail compo and my score didn't change. I decided to boycott it since tuesday

[cosmic tulip]

It’s not sustainable even for whales, every week recycling items… There is definitely not 20 in an alliance either.

[terse agate]

They do only use the big spenders for their calculations…
You see that everywhere in the game….
What FP keeps forgetting, all those big spenders have friends they played with for 3-4 years, those are often not big spenders….
If the friends leave, the big spenders will follow…
Plus, even when you are a substantial spender, but can’t win anymore due to the hero skips and the bad matching, those substantial spenders will stop spending as well…

[normal peak]

I stopped around Tuesday too…I just do explorer or gather for the 2 throwdown a day

[fallow lodge]

Use on svs and sotf maybe you might get something for your stuff😅

[normal peak]

Most big spenders abandoned those so called friends to join those 3-4 super alliances during transfers

[terse agate]

That’s true as well…..
Loyalty till the door🤣😂

[normal peak]

There comes a time where the super spenders drive to win out weighs loyalty

[hardy cargo]

About 8h:45m till the end and even FKG is 7 tiers behind. Ridiculous...

I'd say the rewards are good, but the amount is just laughable. They should multiply the rewards x10 and significantly lower the requirements, at least by half.

[terse agate]

How about the old TD with the new rewards…..?
I mean, compared to the value of the old rewards at the beginning of the state, the current rewards of the new TD is similar in value.

[knotty nacelle]

This is fairly old states group, and nobody will reach all milestones rewards

[tardy night]

whats interesting is their seeding for throwdown matchmaking

[knotty nacelle]

I dont like new milestone rewards, even if its possible to reach them. New alliance rank rewards are good, but alliance solo rewards are worse than before, correct me if I'm wrong

[tardy night]

seems like predetermined winners yet again with almost all shared groups having 1-2 alliances far exceeding others in points potential.

[terse agate]

I actually never paid much attention to the milestone rewards, got my max asap and be done with it….
Wasn’t it some plasma and bios?

[tardy night]

6k+ bio iirc

[cosmic tulip]

Plasma, crystals, bio and speed

Alliance rank

[knotty nacelle]

Nice amount of biocaps, speedups and some plasma in old milestone rewards

[hardy cargo]

I don't remember how many crystals, but 30 plasmas and 9k bios for Champions tier.

[knotty nacelle]

Many people in my alliance (me included) completely retired from throwdown from the 2nd day after we realized how bad it is

[hardy cargo]

I don't blame you. It's counterproductive to play it.

[rigid crag]

I thought Fun+ said the Throwdown changes were based on a lot of player feedback😂

It’s all nonsense…..I don’t ever recall seeing any feedback here to change Throwdown other than to eliminate it. Certainly don’t remember anyone asking for the ridiculous Throwdown format we have now

[knotty nacelle]

In all honesty, old points and tasks format was good, they could only update the rewards (for the better, not for worse) add cross state solo ranking and be done with it.

It seems they now have people doing these changes that are so far removed from the game, that they dont understand what are they doing at all. They should have someone who actually plays the game in the developer team😅

[north moss]

I agree with all of you about the alliance throwdown. I don't like the changes either.

A lot of feedback was submitted in feedback reporting channel from my awesome co-mods and other players about this, so please feel free to upvote there.
Or can also post yours in #📋︱feedback-reporting with the format that is posted in #📋︱feedback-how-to. If you need any help with that,you can dm us and we will submit it for you

Also, a friendly reminder. While I understand the frustration,please remember that we'd follow our server's rules.

[rigid crag]

Did I break server rules stating my opinion and feedback in the feedback discussion channel?

[north moss]

No. It was not directed to anyone specific. It was just a friendly reminder
All the feedback is welcomed as long as it follows the server's rules. Feedback is what helps us and the game to become better

We are also here to help with that

[north moss]

You'd be surprised but as a mod, the change of the throwdown rewards or some throwdown tasks and the event's format was always requested.Even before i become a mod . Maybe not the format that we have now.But it was requested

[north moss]

I agree with that. I liked the old format also but the rewards needed improvement.
Have you submitted feedback about this,Groot?

[north moss]

we didnt manage to reach top 5

[dense lance]

I can agree with that as a not mod, there's always been complaints about gold fists and lack thereof, tasks that can't be completed due to having finished that content (same with SOTF/SVS prep), people wanting to bring back or get rid of certain tasks, not being able to get tasks you want in general (custom tasks is a fix for that)

I think if the custom tasks we actually got were more like what people saw on the PTR (especially having the troop training task) and the goals were even remotely reasonable, it wouldn't be so bad

[north moss]

I agree with you and thank you for the feedback

A lot of feedback was submitted in feedback reporting channel from my awesome co-mods and other players about this, so please feel free to upvote there.
Or can also post yours in #📋︱feedback-reporting with the format that is posted in #📋︱feedback-how-to. If you need any help with that,you can dm me and I will submit it for you .

[north moss]

I agree. To be honest, i'd alwaysss get my pointss with the troop training task. It's sad that it's not in the custom task list

I was never a fan of alliance throwdown myself. So I'd get my pointss with troop training task and speedups.

[steel musk]

thank you all for all your feedback which even devs won't look at it and won't take it

like this feedback
above 1k and they didn't change it

i feel we cheat ourself when we write feedback lol

[still blade]

I'm feeling mixed about the changes to TD because I agree some of these changes were suggested as my Co Mod said. I also think the current format needs some adjusting especially Milestones. I'm happy to finally see better rewards there though overall.

[steel musk]

rewards still not good

compare which what we need to use to get those rewards

it's even worse than before

[still blade]

Yea that's why I mentioned the Milestones area.

[dense lance]

When I first saw the changes to the rewards, I thought it was nice, then I saw the requirements. Also if we'd had the custom tasks that we actually had vs the ones that were shown on the PTR it just made it worse. This is at least the second time though they've revamped an event with ridiculous point requirements like that though and I wish they would stop doing that, even if they change them and make them reasonable afterwards, we've lost friends my state this week due to people deciding that this throwdown was the last straw.

[steel musk]

they try push f2p to spend lol.. that's all

[wraith vapor]

Don't know of a single alliance which reached the goal yet 😂

[steel musk]

even ranked 1 in throwdown champion didn't complete milestones yet

[tropic echo]

through ascension, customer service has obtained the Legendary stupid * Moronitis *with an ultra rare skill unlimited frustration and dumbfoundedness

[wraith vapor]

Yeah haven't seen any groups which reached either 😂

[wraith vapor]

Yeah I stopped reading it 😂

[tropic echo]

I think that's the only format to write on SC, now no one even wants to open it

[wraith vapor]

I think SC was too quiet as most people are quitting so they added this as an illusion 😂😂

[steel musk]

They want more ppl to spend on it..

[still blade]

I think it could be much better if we see some adjustments on the milestones as a player

[steel musk]

but they even not from our state 🤣

[wraith vapor]

Hence the illusion 😂

[tropic echo]

The thing is we been giving feedback that it is horrible and needed to change and be updated . I myself have submitted and read much on it but they did change it and not any of the suggestions that I know of implemented. They changed it doing their own thing that requires draining your backpack and impossible milestones .

[steel musk]

they should change it or no one will do throwdown next time.. some did this time but i doubt if all of them will do next one

[tropic echo]

And then they will go boasting SC activity has drastically increased and we are pleased to announce this , this proves sos is the bestest game ever

[still blade]

They did inpliment many changes asked as My lovely Co Mod said some of these things were suggestions.

As far as future changes I dont imagine that's going to come overnight. They would likely wait until this is over first.

[wraith vapor]

It's an unreasonable n unachievable milestone. With all 100 active members 20k points is achievable if custom tasks were better but it's not

[digital glacier]

4 years, players have been Asking for a way to turn off banner notifications.
4 years it's only gotten worse
4 years.....
I hit my 4 year login streak on new years day.
What will be my new years resolution....

Stick around and find out 🤣

[wraith vapor]

Yeah and then all the fake likes n thumbs up in the broadcasting centre 😂

[still blade]

Yea the Milestones are rough agreed and we know they are looking at the current feedback on it so we hope they make adjustments. All feedback has been passed to them

[steel musk]

they tested it and they found out not many spend for it and most gave up on throwdown.. some quit also so they will change it next week..
not because feedback here
If they care about our feedback here, they will change Ray's place
It was there feedback got above 1k vote

[tropic echo]

I love the new throwdown , all they need to do is make realistic milestones solo and allaince .
This hideous TD will be in next migo or stage not sure from the mail .

How will they even put this in migo? What f2p going drain their bag for TD and can't do any other task? I put feedback on it. If they really forcing this on us and it will be in migo make it realistic achievable for f2p . Maybe 2 tasks daily or 12 tasks for td rewards

[steel musk]

but they didn't change it also

[charred swift]

Any changes that have been made have been coincidental to feedback and not as a result of feedback.

[steel musk]

to add i post feedback here before some months about change svs matchmaking and make it depends on Behemoth and + stats.. not state bp
but they didn't

so do you think they listen to players when they write feedback here? I doubt

matchmaking for svs it's tomorrow.. let's see how it will be for many states

[dense lance]

Ray's place did get addressed in the roadmap recently

we'll see how that goes

[still blade]

Many people like the idea and some of the changes just those milestones. That's a lot of the feedback we are getting that people dont like the milestones as they arent achievable by many.

[wraith vapor]

They don't give a toss as they have those whales who buy everything n anything n they will. So no point in changing anything as money is rolling in

[steel musk]

If they didn't change it, then all feedback here it's useless and they don't care..

[tropic echo]

They always made TD a hard event like the rewards are the best in game , how long did exclusive gathering tasks last? Troop training tasks are the least frequent and bundle buying are always there in abundance. Honestly anyone draining their bag or upgrade for TD is stupid. Best to do them for other events

[steel musk]

1 min let me find feedback about svs matchmaking.. i think was before 2 months
but they didn't fix it yet

[digital glacier]

Probably, they just adding the gen 16 completion token to the same slots as the gen 13-15 parts of the wheel.

[tropic echo]

Yup,the rewards are good just impossible to get . If they actually listened to the suggestions of the pass feedback we won't be in this mess.
It is is like all they read is we want changes in throwdown and devs sat on their golden table and asked how can we change TD to bring in money

[mighty gorge]

Im curious as to where all this 'official' feedback is, requests and otherwise about TD, and making it harder (etc etc), if its not recorded anywhere in the SoS Official Discord? Are FP just canvasing FB as people purchase their next tin foil hat or reading random comments in YT as people stream nonsense to the masses.

I spend near enough most of my day with this page open, while working etc, and I've never once in the last year seen anyone say to make TD harder.

[steel musk]

I think they wait gen 17.. So they add gen 16 to same slots lol

[tropic echo]

They always say it is improved and fixed , just like lag.

Well we all know that is a lie

I am off to finish doing the exciting hero exploration. I fell asleep earlier with all the thrills and excitement of it

[still blade]

It may not be easy to see it but I do know that aligning States is apart of addressing matchmaking I believe. Unfortunately this process isnt an overnight process.

[tropic echo]

Have a good weekend eveyone .

[still blade]

Have a good weekend

[steel musk]

I have 1 more question.. why CS not here to answer players or they bots? why mod doing what CS they should do
I mean about bugs, suggest

could mod help with events

even Saberlot barely here.. why he work with them if he doesn't answer us or take alot time..

this company like mess

[still blade]

I cant answer for CM. I know they are in many places and have varying roles. That would be a question for them.

CS and CM arent the same however.

[dense lance]

that would probably be helpful, tbh I think the best change would be to offer an item that lets you pick any gen 13-16, since a lot of states are getting those heroes all at once

[steel musk]

I thanks mods for their hard work but sos should pay to them real money.... not trash bios.. like hell where could use bios in real life

it's still work tho even if was here

[tropic echo]

It has been years , there really is no excuse . Even if it is an improvement that we really not noticing don't send podcasts and announcements that it has improved when every event is a complain. This is what makes us feel insulted . We see different yet they telling us something else

[tropic echo]

Thank you, you to

[digital glacier]

50000 plasma
20000 special coating
10000 legendary tempest molds
10000 tactical analysis manual
Champion tier Max level alliance throwdown rewards, this still does not accommodate the solo portion of the rewards.

50,000 plasma is 100 million points in svs.
On a use plasma day, the entire state might be lucky to get 600-700 million and this includes using speedups 😂

They are nutso

[winter canyon]

It's absolutely ridiculous... you need like 6.5K plasma every other week or no TD rewards I guess

[digital glacier]

They want 6 alliances to do what am entire start tree does during svs for the throwdown rewards 😂😂😂😂😂 gtfo

[digital glacier]

No throwdown rewards. 🤣

[steel musk]

or skip throwdown like me

[dense lance]

I think that's important and it's good they want to do something, but there also should have been appropriate compensation for the states that are now missing 3 full generations of time in growth that will be pitted against them. We've seen already where we've had to fight opponents that had more time to upgrade gen 13 to 15

[steel musk]

rewards it's trash i leaved it for devs.. they could take it

[digital glacier]

$35 gets you everything in the champion tier rewards (and then some)
I can't buy 6500 plasma for $35 😂

[faint flint]

Special missions rip you off. More points on normal missions.

[digital glacier]

Cue my name

Devs know sos players can't math.
Because devs themselves can't math.
So, this is a great way to screw players who can't math.

[steel musk]

35$ by buy bundles?

tasks

[digital glacier]

$35 of bundles yes.

[steel musk]

rewards in throwdown it's less than $10

[digital glacier]

Not for champion tier 🤣

[steel musk]

i am with alliance have champion throwdown.. and rewards don't worth for milestones .. only solo cross states

[winter canyon]

Don't think about anything making sense in this game... nothing is

[faint flint]

@merry scroll buy all your devs a calculator. They struggle with their maths

[winter canyon]

Spending money just to complete alliance TD is such a waste because you can get those stuff from other bundles for much less

[steel musk]

I don't understand how they think players would spend for it.. If they will, it's easier buy 5$ bundle and skip throwdown so they save 1 week

by $5 they will get more than what in milestones rewards

[winter canyon]

You can have better behemoth, better gears, 300 more stats, 60K more troops and tie against someone much weaker

[steel musk]

I can prove how 5$ bundle have more rewards than milestones rewards

that's why i skipped throwdown.. Even spend for it.. It's dumb because could buy that's 1 bundle and get better rewards and you will save 1 week...

[astral tree]

No one on my bracket of TD will complete it

[winter canyon]

Who cares about TD🤣

[steel musk]

another useless event to my list. like horde, pz,

[winter canyon]

You get 3 fragments and 9 biobatteries

You would need 5 TDs to get enough aircraft stuff for a single upgrade

[astral tree]

I'm dge in 1204

[digital glacier]

$15 if you go the route of buying the "monthly" pack. the daily claim pack that goes for 30 days.

Over the course of 2 throwdown events that span 28 days

Fun fact.
101 of these bundles (101 months) $503.99
To hit 8 champion tier stage maximum solo rewards valued at approximately $120

Rewards return 24% 🤣

[steel musk]

this $5?

[digital glacier]

Yes.

[steel musk]

It's more than milestones rewards

[digital glacier]

Diamonds = pennies.
499 diamonds for $4.99

[cloud ridge]

dont let kg find out your telling players how to gain more for less

[steel musk]

so i was wrong.. milestones rewards less than 5$

[cloud ridge]

they dont like that

[winter canyon]

But why spend if it's too late to catch up anyways

[steel musk]

can't catch up because they will keep add things

[cloud ridge]

the rewards are not worth the effort at all, especially when it's alliance points locked

[vagrant parrot]

[digital glacier]

Plasma vs Behemoth vs crystals vs aircraft all have different values. So you can't say 1 MKII frag is worth 1 plasma. Don't work like that.
1 poly isn't worth 1 plasma 🙈

[winter canyon]

So stay F2P

[vagrant parrot]

In past 3 updates, there is not even 1 useful feature is released 😂

[steel musk]

1 poly = 0 plasma.. could get 1 free each day

[winter canyon]

We can be a decent F2P or a really weak spender who can't catchup at all

[digital glacier]

You missing the point.
Everyone can get 1free each day 🤣

[cloud ridge]

how long will you wait then for p13+ 😅

[winter canyon]

Unless you started spending from day 1 you're not going to be top player even if you spend over 10k a month

[digital glacier]

8 years at his logic

[steel musk]

why need p13?

[cloud ridge]

even in migo,it's still not worth it, just use the coin and skip the event

[astral tree]

when does this monthly plasma pack come?😍

[steel musk]

best thing to do

[cloud ridge]

p13 wont save you from lead, nothing will. It's just a current poly goal for many. I'm not including the new building bs they added

[steel musk]

I can prove rewards in milestones same or less than $5

[digital glacier]

I'm kinda sad, I used coins for the 7500 target a few times, somehow I got them 😂 wish I had my coins back.

Wish there was a refund feature.
Use coins to hit target early, how target by playing event, gets coins refunded. That would be nice.

[digital glacier]

Good luck. But you can't. 😂

[cloud ridge]

the rewards ain't worth the effort, simple as that

[winter canyon]

Upgrading to P13 could help... as it boosts your troop power by quite a bit

[digital glacier]

I mean, if you want to go that route, using all sorts of various methods using events that are not 100% available.
Rewards in throwdown are less than $0.01 😂

[cloud ridge]

pearls are a lot more valuable, but with different items and uses it's hard to gauge what's worth what to an equivalent

[steel musk]

I thought you mean it's more than 5 lol

[cloud ridge]

it helps, but in grand scheme of things no. Had it been pre behemoth days then sure, Plasma levels make a big impact. Now, it's monkes and tempest

[astral tree]

TD should pay in pearls.😑

[steel musk]

my mistake 😂😂

[cloud ridge]

long as it's a decent amount of pearls and not 1

[astral tree]

200 pearls per milestone

[cloud ridge]

i could live with that

[astral tree]

and pearl shop should immediately open during bloodsport and prep week

[cloud ridge]

As these rewards dont excite me for the effort and items you'd need to use

[cloud ridge]

Me likes, I love pearl store. Helps a ton for completeion levels and monke parts

[digital glacier]

I was strictly calculating bundle offers that are always available vs what's offered.

If you want to get right down to it.
POW, SR, is completely free and you can get most of the items throwdown gives for nothing.
So that pretty much only leave MKII frags, which you can get from KOH store.
So there's that

Throwdown rewards are worth $0.00 😂

But that takes away from what you actually get in a sense. 😅

[winter canyon]

They should add discount event for behemoth

[steel musk]

they should remove Behemoth

[digital glacier]

If they just removed the first digit of all the numbers for throwdown stage targets, that would make this event so much better and worth it for 100% of the players.

[winter canyon]

100% this!

But I doubt devs will do that

[digital glacier]

They should fix airplane 🤣

Or remove it

Or fix Behemoth

Or remove it

[steel musk]

formation system?

[digital glacier]

Yes.

Formation system doesn't work like it says 🙈

For now, there's 1 whole section that all but 1 actually make you weaker in battle 😂

[steel musk]

they did before..
1 big alliance cried and complaint about it so they change it back to 8 players
it was 2 formation system( 2 players) work on report

[digital glacier]

There's about 12 nodes I think 🤔 that makes you weaker.

[winter canyon]

How

[digital glacier]

It doesn't work like it said it works 😂

[steel musk]

not sure if battle report work well.. compare with all bugs we have, i expect some bugs in battle reports

can't notice it because Behemoth.. If lost will say because Behemoth

[winter canyon]

You can lose with better behemoth even if you're better on other features...

[unreal lichen]

Helps solid team beat whales, I’m all for it. lol

[winter canyon]

@steel musk

0.9% better behemoth... much better other features... and it was a tie when I had way more troops

[steel musk]

but some have ultra whale + whale joiners.. what about those 😅

[unreal lichen]

Losing no matter what so doesn’t matter much then

[steel musk]

showdown?

[winter canyon]

No

[digital glacier]

It was more, then 2, then back to 8.
Honestly, it being at 2 was better for the whale alliances because they could easily divide up in to more teams to conquer more 😂

[steel musk]

oh then 8 it's better 😅

[winter canyon]

Minor differences in behemoth (under +/- 10%) doesn't really mean much

[digital glacier]

+/-10% is based on power
Not on strength
So more power Behemoth with bad upgraded nodes, has more power, but less strength.

[steel musk]

• 30% on Behemoth or formation system...
  if 1 mil vs 1 mil (same stats) the alliance which have +30% on Behemoth will have 700k left at least

[winter canyon]

30% is a lot tho

[digital glacier]

Yes it is 🤣

[steel musk]

depends on joiners

[dense lance]

those built in comparisons aren't very good, like the matching sets on the tempest arms for your opponent is a pretty big deal, also the game calculates behemoth power badly because it doesn't take a good organized approach to battery use vs the shotgun approach into account

the stats that aren't shown might help it make more sense

[steel musk]

Tbh I don't care if we got bad matchmaking on svs.. I just port to enemy state and burn for rss.. and skip capital

I did feedback here about it but they didn't fix it yet

[winter canyon]

The difference between lvl 100 blue behemoth with 4 skills and lvl 190 orange behemoth with 40 skills is 30%

[cloud ridge]

Best thing I've heard all day

[cloud ridge]

Discount for everything, it still be expensive as hell

[winter canyon]

I wish they could remove behemoth

[dense lance]

like here if you consider 2 people who spent similar amounts of batteries, but one of them focused on the destructive missile and the other didn't, and the second player's behemoths died quickly, they might show similar power but they are not similar in behemoth vs behemoth combat

[steel musk]

next time i will save report to send it here.. maybe from svs next week 😂😂

[winter canyon]

But devs probably not doing it

[cloud ridge]

To big a cash cow, plus. Far to many have invested 10s of thousands into them

If it was like first dew days, then yes easier to refund people. Now, no. Best they can do is to nerf them.

[austere pewter]

Sorry to interrupt just curious how many alliences hit the 2m points target for throwdown rewards?!

[cloud ridge]

That I know of so far 0

But, as its outside migo I do expect that to be honest as less are pushing for points

[steel musk]

even FKG didn't get 1.7 mil... what you talk about 2 mil?

[winter canyon]

That's 500K plasma in total🤣

[cloud ridge]

Even if it was in migo, people should only get minimum points. Throwdown ain't worth it, especially with no troop tasks all week. All I've done is infected, explore and gather tasks

[cloud ridge]

Every 2 weeks 👀

[winter canyon]

I think 500K plasma can get you from hq30 to P13🤣

[cloud ridge]

If your lucky on poly pulls maybe 😂

[steel musk]

super luck... need luck could beat devs odd

[winter canyon]

Speaking of luck

[cloud ridge]

Now, somone out there will see this and think 500k plasma is worth like 4 aircraft materials and maybe if done solo 1 organe stick for tempest

So that they can use it and get rubbish skill

[cloud ridge]

Grats, you can now afford to almost upgrade one of the newer buildings

[steel musk]

factor 1? or was 6

[cloud ridge]

By 1 level 👀

[winter canyon]

+1.5% troop damage/defense from skill

[winter canyon]

Both multipliers

[cloud ridge]

Will that save me from maxed monkes 👀

No, no it won't. Monkes and tempest arms have made this game unplayable

[winter canyon]

If maxed monkey with 0 morale, probably no problem... against a guy with 1900 stats 300 morale nothing can save you

[steel musk]

hope devs don't take this as future

[winter canyon]

Don't give them ideas!

[steel musk]

removed 🤣

[winter canyon]

I really don't understand how they can put skills that give 2% of a stat when the lowest additional stat is 13%🤣

[steel musk]

2% it's hq skin

or frame if got 2% defence

[winter canyon]

I'd take a frame

At least I could have a chance to get better skills on that gear

[steel musk]

after some time they will add another op future which would make us forget tempest arms

[cloud ridge]

I say add it and let them kill game faster

[mighty tusk]

game is horrible atm, in mm final screen keeps freezing when trying to rein. devs are useless

[steel musk]

we use word ( devs) how many they are? 🤔

if each 1 of them doing 3 or 4 lists groups for MM.. and mange it (matchmaking, lag, etc) we won't get bugs or freezing or bad matchmaking

I think it's only 1 dev 🙄

[timber cargo]

Mining mayhem is complete garbage even during the finals. Get this fixed already, and how about some actual decent compensation that players can choose from. Some of us spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars between last night and today for this match. And I can’t click more than two times without having to restart. What the hell?

[steel musk]

there many states.. hard to fix bugs if they keep add states.. soon we will have 2k states

so expect more bugs at future

It's just they can't mange events or fix bugs

tomorrow svs matchmaking... It will be prove about how devs are bad if they didn't fix it and give states balance matchmaking

feedback about svs was before more than 2 months

If they won't remove Behemoth, they could fix matchmaking at least

even big alliances looks they get bored on events

like svs

no competition

[prime hound]

For mm lag, you can 🔼 vote that here: #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[steel musk]

no need up vote... They don't care about how many vote

[prime hound]

For mm compensation, can 🔼 vote that here: #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[steel musk]

good luck then

[prime hound]

Sadly that’s all I can offer

I agree mm had so much lag, it was nearly impossible to play

[steel musk]

they didn't change this yet, so they don't care about players feedback... they ignore all players

[prime hound]

I totally agree. I too upvoted that feedback

[steel musk]

I post feedback.. let's see if devs will fix matchmaking

I posted before but they didn't fix it yet

we will see tomorrow 🙈

[sly marsh]

They actually did. Starts from next week

[steel musk]

will see on tuesday

[tame oxide]

so they don't like negative posts about new TD
just posted and got deleted 🤬

[unreal lichen]

What’s with alliance showdown rewards still giving Cardini frags??

[stable cosmos]

Ah you see its important to keep getting those so you can level up his skills without needing to use any of the capsules or potions that the game doesn't give you

[peak apex]

Nothing to do with the feedback being negative- you used too many emojis, the bot doesn’t like it If you format your post following instructions in #📋︱feedback-how-to you can post negative feedback (but please don’t swear as the bot doesn’t like that either )

[vagrant parrot]

Swear but do it like this: game is full of "F"ing bugs 😂

[spice jungle]

I love the new throwdown, it's not included in migo and the rewards are terrible so I don't have to bother playing it

[digital glacier]

It should be back in 2 weeks 😭

[winter salmon]

This merger ruined the game for many from my original state. We would like to request you offer the ability to transfer to another state for free. Merge was not our idea and was unwanted. New state is greedy and corrupt.

[stray thorn]

İ agree 💯

[stable cosmos]

The emoji limit is 8. Why this isn't well noted i have no idea. But its 8. 9 emojis gets your post trashed

[fallow lodge]

No point moving most states are dead...Devs give free transfer🤣 they can't even give rest of us a merge....all states are run by look at me people who think they own the place...there's two kinds ,ones who do it in plain view and the ones who act fake and control from behind the scenes. Would a free transfer just give you the same problem

[formal nacelle]

Hello Cyan, In addition to my fellow dlmod, we take feedback reports very seriously and do our best to ensure that all of these reports follow an easy-to-track format. The more explicit the better, if you want to add emoji to express emotions, this is fine, but it's more feasible to have a clean message to be able to get these reports where they need to go.

[stable cosmos]

Its more so people who have spent 15 minutes typing something out don't see it disappear for no apparent reason and finding out why, or even recovering requires a mods assistance.

If people know the limit then they don't need help AND don't get annoyed at their feedback vanishing

[faint elm]

So, why Resident evil peeps in zombie world.👀😂

[stable cosmos]

They can make the choice to use none, i never bother. But for people who believe it gives emphasis they shouldn't have to go through extra steps to recover from deletion when the limitation could be public somehow.

Or outright block them in that channel. Thats clear too.

[formal nacelle]

I understand your point of view but keep in mind that we try to reach everyone who posts a report of any kind, whether it is in an inappropriate format or that is self-deleted, so that those who take their time writing the report precisely is not in vain, and in one way or another the report remains.

[stable cosmos]

The annoyance still exists though. And you need a dl mod to recover the post

Also nobody can vote on a trashed report and the person may not want to repost. You want an easy system right? So publish the rules...

Naughty language is clear. Although i once lost a post for mentioning power based monetary extraction

[formal nacelle]

I also understand this, but the reporting channel has a specific format to serve the purpose of being easy to track, if they don't follow the format, it's very difficult to maintain an appropriate reporting channel.

[stable cosmos]

That does not address the limit of 8 emojis

[formal nacelle]

The rules are set out here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110341802520748132 and https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1100554115643355197.

[stable cosmos]

ugh, this again. No, no hiding. That doesn't say what the limit is. Publicise it, specifically for feedback and bugs

I'm not asking to break rules... I'm asking to make sure people have a good experience qhen submitting a report. Why is this hard?

[zealous plover]

Take down this money scam event called TD we only asked for rewards to be updated not the other way around

Can’t claim solo reward after you hit each targets what a waste of resources I’m sure 80% players won’t bother doing next round

[misty barn]

Ive only selected gathering or explorer TDs to help the alliance a little. otherwise ignoring it. TD was bad enough, it's 1000 times worse now.

[steady umbra]

I agree, TD has really hard alliance levels. THere is many feedback made about this issue, if you like, you could go and vote here #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[stable cosmos]

The alliance levels are easier than the solo ones...

[red scroll]

I feel like Throwdown will be like Ray's Place and the devs will ignore our complaints, because it's incentive for us to spend more money. And as long as they're getting more money they won't listen to complaints.

[frosty olive]

Just don't spend on those events and maybe they can see they are destroying this game

Of course whales won't stop but some might make a small difference

Wishful thinking lol

EVENTS COST TO MUCH ...NOT TO MENTION HERO CHALLENGE IS ENTIRELY TO LONG

[red scroll]

I personally think when a game starts costing more than a house or car, that we should all take a step back and look at what we're doing .-.

[frosty olive]

I definitely agree

I have like 10 accounts and stopped playing all but 1 and now barely play that our state is slowly dying people quit or moved but you think devs can listen nope writing is on the wall, wonder if resident evil knows they hitched thier wagon to a dying game

[cloud ridge]

@merry scroll / @feral sinew / @gray dragon When will the correct SOTF cross ranking rewards be issued to players.

You can't just use 4 imaginary states in SOTF as an excuse for this and have it go unnoticed for a whole week. It's dumb and even an achievement by your standards.

[graceful yoke]

Is there already some feedback to vote for that mentions converting old crowbars to new behemoth mk II crowbars? I know that lots of players have a lot left over since the old surprising box event ended abruptly.

[digital glacier]

Curious, operation resurgence, did you have more than 6 states in this?

[cloud ridge]

6

we came last

😂

[digital glacier]

Yea, somewhere. Same with old slot machine tokens as well. They made new tokens with the same image but use a different item #

[digital glacier]

Well dang, thought cause some had shown 9 or 10, maybe those other states has this issue

[cloud ridge]

some in the migo group had a lot more glory points than us, which i assumed was from the cross state ranking issues, so some it seems was fine whilst others have been screwed over because?

[solid oriole]

i didn't see anyone from other state groups with same issue

At least two other in bug channel also from our migo group

[cloud ridge]

besides, it's caused a lot of people to quit and more will be on the way out as well if it's not fixed

[solid oriole]

if they will not fix it i will leave and agitate other people to leave, because it's very very veird decision from them, as we didn't see any of their imaginary states in our ranking till end of monday

[solid oriole]

we have in migo 5 too. no more

[digital glacier]

And your rank for bloodsport was messed up wasn't it 🤔

[solid oriole]

rank no. rewards yes

[digital glacier]

Ok. It's yes, really but whatever.

Ask around to nearby states, too see who sees you in their migo group.

I bet you, the problem of people seeing more states in their migo group than they should see. May have been fixed on the migo end for some states, but they didn't input that info into the bloodsport matching.
So most likely, this issue will happen again in stage 2.

[solid oriole]

for me it will not happen if they will no send me rewards for top 20

[digital glacier]

You, your state, your group, whatever. Was a general term "you"

Ffs, worse than my ex on Semaantics

[solid oriole]

i understand, but what i mean i am too lazy to do developer's job for them. I have my own job. and here i come to play and relax.

[odd umbra]

1 week throwdown is nearly over in our group non of the Alliances reached enough points for lvl 16 rewards or lvl 20 (maxed rewards)

It is a shame what they done to throwdown

[cloud ridge]

it wont be fixed till end of this migo if we're lucky, that's my view on it.

[solid oriole]

i'm not sure how many will quit in our state if they will not send proper rewards, but i will quit for sure. Because it's very unfair for players to do this. I could spend more if this states were shown, but they were not. So...

[cloud ridge]

Why push for rewards only to be screwed over in the end by KG's bs

in a way, i'm glad it's happended. As it's pushed me away finally from game most likely though I am still sad some have gone and more to follow

[solid oriole]

i like it, to be honest. I can just ignore this event completely now. though if they will make tasks in migo with more needed points...

[cloud ridge]

I stayed for the people, not the game, now the games screwed us over to a limit for some causing more to leave. The more who leave the less i want to login. Our state has maybe 4 "active" alliances including us, our state can't afford to lose anymore yet KG keeps pushing us that way

[odd umbra]

I done before my minimum points to reach the rewards but that is impossible now

[solid oriole]

it's a shame that some people spend so much for this lame rewards 🤣

[odd umbra]

They said it is for F2P i don't know where

[cloud ridge]

f2p if you skip it

[solid oriole]

if we combine everything from top 5 rewards in crosstate and max milestone it will cost less than 1000 crystals in total

it could be good to take 1st place rewards fore crossstate, but recources spenty for this are much, much more than just buying pack with this stuff

for example for this points simple calculations. most effective from cost points are from plasma (if i remember correctly 5 points per plasma, but let's take as 10 points per plasma). 500 diamonds 260 plasma, so 2600 points. so for 133000 points you need to spend 25500 diamonds (133000 / 2600) x 500. one gold skill costs 7000 diamonds , even if it's 10000 it still much, much cheaper

@muted coral you spent so much to get 2nd place rewards, which costs less than 7000 diamonds. your comments?

[frigid vault]

Rewards were cut off by more than 50%, it's just look nicer but actually it's a complete b's even if you get all milestones alliance ranking rewards are garbage and cross state ranking also I f you consider that you are competing against more active people than you have in svs

[muted coral]

Don’t ever assume what i did or didn’t do. Don’t tag me I don’t know you

[solid oriole]

i don't know you too, we are even in this. Just curious are you satisfied with rewards or not

[muted coral]

We aren’t even. I am not bothering you

[solid oriole]

does it bother you? i'm so sorry. but still, do you think rewards are worse it or not? not from my calculations, but from your own opinion?

[muted coral]

Leaving this server. I don’t like being dragged into discussions nothing to do with me. You have been blocked

[cloud ridge]

Ara ara

[solid oriole]

🤣

[cloud ridge]

He annoyed he spent so much for 2nd place

[solid oriole]

it seems he is not satisfied

[muted coral]

I didn’t spend anything it’s recycling. I have a lot. Don’t assume

[cloud ridge]

I will assume thank you 😌

Nice matchmaking bro

[solid oriole]

Thank you, Deadred. It's seems this event really for f2p. just save 13000 plasma without spending (or other resources combined), and you will have good place

[cloud ridge]

But not 1st place

[stable cosmos]

We matched state 127 last time and won. Big gaps in state age don't mean everything. I'm not saying hey insta win or anything but they might only have 1 good lead in the whole state, it can happen. More now with transfers

Matching remains terrible but in svs it does seem to be better than RR most of the time

[keen narwhal]

still no general resonated fragments? FU

[vivid grove]

I dont think you will see the general resonated fragments until the Collab with Resident Evil is over.

[keen narwhal]

why tho?

[solid oriole]

because you was able to spend general fragments to kris in first day. and after that they switched off it.because general fragments are much, much cheaper than buying new resident evil fragments strait

you can spend now 500 diomonds and get 1 fragment

[grim zenith]

Thanks devs... I hope you step on a lego 👍

[solid oriole]

it's crazy.

each person in alliance fo this with 100 people should do at least 6000 points. it's too much.

[swift plover]

I just wanted to say I am with you all on this. The new throwdown is not good I can understand wanting to refresh the event but I myself think that the new one isn't a good way to go. I will upvote all those feedback reports that are stating that.

[static barn]

How can I report someone in game who is filling migo chat with hate speech? Hitting report chat is doing nothing

[static barn]

You will have much better luck matching them now. I and several other active power players left.

[normal peak]

Older states just have higher bp because of troops..doesn’t mean they have more whales

[formal nacelle]

Hello Dragonna, regarding to the issue with the chat, my advise is to always click on report chat in game when seen, also screenshot and report to CS at every opportunity.

[lime zealot]

Quite honestly, big spenders are self reliant pretty often, such is the path of narcissists, so they wont quit if their friend will

More like, if all f2p and low spenders will quit, big spenders will have nobody left to burn, and will quit 😂

[unreal lichen]

Also to add to my excellent comods solid advice, you could let us know here what states are in your migo and we can see if there's a mod available in game

[cosmic gate]

These changes just further screw over people in America. You take one hour away from the small windows we can play and put it into a window when we’re all sleeping. Thanks for nothing once again

[old oasis]

Sangers would you like this added into feedback

[olive sluice]

Maybe far-eastern players bought more Royale booster packs? 🤔 🤑

We all learned that Save Our Salary devs only care about maximizing their short term revenue, not about any players

But on a more serious note, I guess they looked at the participation and that hour had a lower number of players

Of course ignoring timezones, just in general

[old oasis]

Sangers here it is all written up #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[wide garden]

I predict your going to have to make another channel just for the Throwdown Blowback when people start logging in

[tiny quiver]

Why did they remove the delete button so fast ! I was setting up to remove a lot of vouchers accounts I had .. they make it to hard to do otherwise

[north moss]

Hi Cherub!
I understand what you mean, however, please note that the delete button would delete all the characters in that account.
To delete specific characters from 1 account,you will have to contact CS.

[pallid willow]

On the heroe skills the heroe capsules increase same amount of % than the general fragments?

[torpid gazelle]

Are the devs going to ever give adequate compensation for the unreachable rewards for throwdown. I’ve never been unable to maximize my points until this horribly thought through plan.

[wary raptor]

An important question for me? Does anyone know if the new generation of heroes are worth buying? Does no one in my state want to buy them? They say they are weak

[old oasis]

Alfredobarber which generation of heros are you upto?

As it varies depending the age of your state

[stable anvil]

Didnt this bundle used to have speedups, thats a crime

[old oasis]

Chiefu yes when you were alot younger state it did

[stable anvil]

You mean like last week

[old oasis]

Now that your state is older you get polyised plasma instead

We have just gone gen 7 and I haven't seen speed ups in limited deal for months

[stable anvil]

Yeah just last week it had them but idk now

Things constantly changing

[old oasis]

As the state ages it puts what it thinks you need more

[stable anvil]

Thats a damn shame

[old oasis]

There might be speed ups in one of the other bundles

[karmic widget]

Speed up version of the bundle will more then likely be out tomorrow. It’s normally Monday and Tuesday. I normally get it so I know 😆

This is a cheaper / rip off version of it 😉

[jade mesa]

Hey Guys raised an issue in Feedback .. would really appreciate upvotes
This issue affects everyone ... The newer states will be made Cross Gen
I am in a cross Gen state .. The matchmaking pool has been Now been opened up with a significantly larger group of older states
Today we played RR against a team from an old state .. They had Gen 13 and 14 and 15 ... While all I had was Gen 15 (Gen 13 and 14 Having been released at the same time without any events or ways to catch up the older states) (Plus Gen 13 14 being made the same power as Gen 15)
...
I basically had 1 march vs their 3 .. That is 1 march to join rallies or try take a tank leaving myself totally defenseless to their other two marches with which they were easily able to crush my second and third marches even with behe dino and heli home .. and burn me out completely within a few minutes of the start
If Devs do not sort this out and implement the solution they already did for Gen 7 to 12 Cross Gen states, This will be the same for all of us for EVERY PvP event ... Newer states will be made cross gen to catch up and you will be in the same position as us soon .. RR SvS Heist and ANY PvP event will be the same

[tardy night]

This issue has been raised to them since start of migo. They too busy providing gen 16 frags to oldest states

You're fodder status to older states and older states are quite happy with status quo of easy wins.

Devs are dumb or betting on competitive spirit to pull peeps through. What they probably aren't considering is that whales of newest states will just jump to giants of oldest States with transfers or quit altogether. Goodbye new revenue from bait states.

@merry scroll we were told a protection period would be active for these states. Where is this protection active. Because we haven't seen any evidence of it.

A protection in SvS is meaningless and catering to 1 alliance or 2, with maybe 30 players of each playing that crap in gen skip states from being destroyed at home every time their March is out

Where's the protection period in events which help any average player across any PvP event not meant for the 1%

[old oasis]

Nat777 have been and upvoted I hope you see some resolution soon

This is the link to the last conversation with saberlot around this #📋︱feedback-discussion message

[tardy night]

Yeah. Just like all of first gen skip states. They will discuss it till end of this migo. 4 months have passed since that first came up

Stop misleading players and press your CM for answers instead

[terse agate]

Not only for the Americans, also for the Europeans….
Add an hour during our workday, while we are still working…..
Seems this only benefits the continent, FP is from

[terse agate]

Hun, I have been advocating for a solution for 15 weeks already, I am from a state in that went same cross gen as you.
Even though my feedback was in the top 10 several times, they have been ignoring it….
We have lost so many rewards already. People around me are frustrated and irritated….

Substantial spenders are even wondering what the use is of their spending, since with their spendings it is still not possible to win…
Matching system is already horrible, but it doesn’t take into account the hero gen skips…..
Up until now, nothing has changed yet….

[ivory trellis]

🫣 Groot?

[terse agate]

Yeah?????

[ivory trellis]

sorry I know Groot in 1105, I thought she's you

the recent updates in the game driving people to quit

[terse agate]

No, I don’t play in 1105.
Different Groot

[ivory trellis]

after spending all my speedups and most of plasma and other stuff on Throwdown I get this,

I really don't know what developers intentions from it, want everyone to buy 1000$ bundles so the alliance get to unlock TD rewards? not everyone can spend , I'm in small alliance and we play for fun but we are playing and little spending from time to time

this is the most crappy update the game had since I started playing it 1 year ago

and it seems they're pushing me to quit more with every update and delete this crap

[terse agate]

@merry scroll even if they decide to mitigate the choice the devs made to make states cross gen.
How are you gonna solve the fact those players have lost substantially more events?
That matchmaking is even worse when in a cross gen state?
That you have highly frustrated players for 15 weeks and that substantial spenders decided to tone down spending or even quit the game?
Frustrations that aren’t solved overnight.
Players that you have lost and won’t return anymore because of this.
If the goal of the devs is to kill the game, they are doing a great job!

[terse agate]

Nah, SOTF was a crappy update as well

They toned that down, same as they will probably do with TD

[ivory trellis]

they should call that downgrades not updates

[terse agate]

Yeah, I always get scared when they say they are thrilled about an optimisation….
Since it always becomes more difficult and for a higher price, with worse rewards…

[terse agate]

Those are intended to optimise the flow of cash in their bank account. Never to optimise rewards for the players

[ivory trellis]

I get that throwdown rewards for alliance includes plasma now but the requirements are too high, I know alliances that are top 1 in the state with around 60 active and 20 simi-active people and some are high spenders, guess what, that alliance did not unlock all TD alliance levels

buhahahaha

huge WTF and WTH

[terse agate]

We have 95 actives in my alliance

Guess what?

[ivory trellis]

hahaha

[terse agate]

We didn’t either

[ivory trellis]

hopefully they rethink about that TD event

otherwise we'll just ignore it even exists in the game

one less event to worry about

I wish I saved those things for SvS or any other event

[terse agate]

That would be nice nice tho…..
Just every other week no weekly event…..😍

Unless they will add it in Migo again 😒

[tardy night]

They will. Their mail said so

[ivory trellis]

hahah

[terse agate]

Yeah, same they did with SOTF

[ivory trellis]

good to know, thanks for the good news

[terse agate]

Half their ingame mails I miss, I generally just click claim all😬🤣😂

[tardy night]

Meh, if they bring it, their loss. With gen skip, will be advising all folks in alliance to move to another game anyway.

Better games out there. These guys are crap. Treat them like crap.

[terse agate]

Like I said, if the intention of the devs is to kill the game, they are doing a good job…

[tardy night]

No, their intent is to remove everyone who doesn't pay.

SoS was their first game working on volume instead of catering to a premium crowd.

[terse agate]

But they also remove substantial spenders with their actions

[tardy night]

That has been trashed. Back to being on their knees for the 1% begging for purchases.

[terse agate]

I mean €1,500 a month is substantial (I think)

[tardy night]

Collateral damage. Not all leave

Most their older games had servers with 100-150 players at best. And 5-6 peeps doing the spending per state.

The sos formula of 600-700 peeps in a state is clearly too much to handle for them.

So they are doing everything to get rid of the excess and use the freed space for newer games spenders.

[terse agate]

Although before the mergers and transfers most states ended up with 100-500 players 🤣😂

[terse agate]

Yeah, speeding in the younger states

Plus all the idiotic updates came in rather late….
We played the regular game for quite a while…..

Then they thought of a plane, a chopper, a monkey, a dino…
Before that it was a strategy game……
Now it is, “who has the biggest wallet”

[tardy night]

You can see the stark difference just by comparing how many are in the SoS official discord(s) vs how many are on their other platforms in older games.

Think the dragon game had 80k accounts over 7.5 years. This in comparison has had 300k+ and 5+ CMs go through it. They can't handle volume. At all.

Lol

[terse agate]

🤣😂🤣

Desperately trying but failing miserably?😬

[tardy night]

Price of catering to a premium crowd only.

SoS heading back to what they're familiar with.

[ivory trellis]

when I started playing I saw some reviews saying it's pay to win

[terse agate]

That’s with all games

[ivory trellis]

you can buy only skins or cools looks

but skills and powers no

[terse agate]

But in the old version, when you play smart, you could do a lot….
Money doesn’t buy brains 😬😬

[tardy night]

SvS yesterday.

[terse agate]

Nowadays that’s out of the question

[tardy night]

And they don't add the stats there in reports. Translated to SoS lingo, that's 450k+

[terse agate]

Dragon knight attack???

[tardy night]

5th unit type

You guys never got the 4th or 5th lol

[terse agate]

🤣😂🤣😂

[ivory trellis]

🤣 wow what's that

[tardy night]

Oldest funplus game

[ivory trellis]

which state is this stats coming from?

[tardy night]

To show what they are comfortable with and where SoS will go

[ivory trellis]

and I'm happy with my 990% infantry attack

hahhaha

I really enjoy the game when we have event with equal opponent

tbh I don't compete on SvS and CC , I got to know it's for spenders

and I don't mean those who spend 20$ monthly like me

hahaha

I loved the Mining Mayhem event

and RR also when the matching is good

[stable cosmos]

Top ranking is for spenders in svs and cc. But i get to play both and earn a few badge tags + whatever is in the chests for the warfare stage. Never gonna win but i like being able to take part. This is ruined when a whale decides to burn me though and kills the entire event for me

[ivory trellis]

yes same here

I usually rank in top 100 people

hahah

sometimes running rallies from the hive on the go while cooking

🤣

[gilded comet]

No one from our Cross-State group was eligible for rewards. The most pointless Throwdown event I've played in my SoS history....

[stable cosmos]

There are many things they could have done. They could have reduced the qlliance target on day 1 to 50k, that would probably have been fair and put nobody out. They could have PROBABLY reduced the solo targets across the board. Fairest there would have been same top prize for same value, but everything below it way less. Like say, 20000 less. As it stands we wait till the next one to see if they fix it. Place your bets i suppose

[lavish heron]

No solo or alliance rewards gotten… I don’t understand why.

[terse agate]

Alliance points lvl 7 required to claim ranking rewards…
That one is behind the pop up in your ss (the one that says no rewards to preview).
Which is too stupid for words tho…

[cloud ridge]

Even having a minimum points required is stupid, especially for the big spending events

[terse agate]

Especially if the rewards are crystals, most big spenders finished the crystal research 🤣😂🤣😂

But, it was the same with SOTF….
This was just a test to figure out how high they should put it, since they have no clue what they are doing….
This way they have the proper data

[gilded comet]

Mainly it is discrimination against smaller alliances. There is a major population problem in most older states. The number of active players is minimal. Even many TOP alliances did not reach full rewards. The 1,350,000 alliance point requirement for full rewards is increased by approx. 2000% compared to what we were used to from previous Throwdowns. Special tasks where you can get more points are absurd. I spent 1000 hours on speedups and got 12000 points. I made a legendary helmet and got 170 points for the Chief Gear quest... ridiculous.

[cloud ridge]

Even then, they've never been great at basing events and features of data. You can explain everything in detail and make it easy as hell to understand. They'd still find a way to mess things up

[cloud ridge]

I dont know the points levels for lower tiers, but I imagine it follows the same high point requirement pattern to push people to use items

Only thing it aims to do is force more use of our backpacks and make us spend more to refresh our backpacks for SOTF and SVS, let alone other events on top

Even the latest dev update about Throwdown basically ignored what has been said for years and they will likely only make it worse

On top of that, I still get these tempest banners.....

[steady umbra]

I think they will lower the alliance point requirements on TD and might tune some other points too, but most likely event concept itself stays like it is now.
Kind like with SOTF update, firstly it was way too hard, to see where majority of players land in.

[gilded comet]

The only goal I see in this change is the total liquidation of saved resources and the necessity of purchasing to fulfill the goals of the event. No thought from the developers about the game playability and keeping the players in the game. Only the sight of profit that will eventually kill this game like so many games before it.

[steady umbra]

Isnt these the ones that players share themself?
I dont have these in my alliance chat, but ones in state chat seem to be automatic and bit annoying.

[cloud ridge]

SOTF is still too hard for some,

[cloud ridge]

No idea, usually if they share it, it just comes up in alliance or state chat but without the banner message.

I've not had any spammed in chat since yesterday I think

[steady umbra]

Yes, it is, but lowered from first version a lot. Usually the last point reward is the hard for some players as its over double from previous one.

[cloud ridge]

It's a shame, all of it. I feel bad for those who still try for their alliances, stages and friends.

[tropic echo]

I read the solo requirements for rewards but actually getting this mail is hurtful. I don't push TD but did my best for the alaince. We are a small one and 3 members does push it so I tried as well as most of the team and we still could not

[steady umbra]

At least these comes with the banner

[cloud ridge]

I don't have those anymore no, only if someone actually shares it in state then it'll show the gear.

But, still have the banner messages showing time to time, just not in state chat

[tropic echo]

Some of those names I saw in 182

[steady umbra]

I have this on my state still. Hopefully if not all has it, it means they are going to get rid of it. Many complain that it bothers the chat and names of these ppl are surely not from our state, so we are not that interested😅

[steady umbra]

State where i took ss is about 400 states younger than that state😂 I wonder if its all states that are included.

[gilded comet]

Yes, I'm in the same situation, TOP 1 in alliance, TOP 3 in Cross-State and no rewards. I'm always trying to get as many points as possible to get alliance rewards for all the TD milestones for our little alliance. This TD was apparently created from the average scoring options of the "Whales"

[cloud ridge]

Don't waste your time, it's nice but are you going to do this every 2 weeks? Throwdown has become another massive money pit now for rankings.

[steady umbra]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message there is good feedback about TD. Feel free to read and if you agree, please upvote.

[tropic echo]

It is really disappointing , sorry you all suffered to . I personally did not use items except stamina . I was doing rallies and gathering right through trying to help those pushing , not only that I wrote a ticket in game cause even though my points were higher I could not even claim my solo points

[wide garden]

346 is seeing the same thing

[cloud ridge]

Old throwdown, I didn't mind picking up other tasks to help out alliance to maintain our alliance ranking. But now, those tasks give far to less points for how much you need. Not a single personal choice task I wanted to do.

Yes, I could burn through plasma, crystals, speeds etc. But why waste resources on those when they matter more in SoTF and SVS. Imagine even doing that and then your alliance not reaching the level 7 requirement for rewards

[steady umbra]

i think that tempest "spamming" includes all states😅

[vapid forum]

Yeah, and it's annoying 😒

[steady umbra]

I tried TD this round. Using mostly plasma and speeds. Have to admit that after gaining 34k points and getting that rank 5 personal reward with 2x gen 16 frag and rrs, it really wasnt worth it
We got to alliance level 13 and even counting on milestones, it really was not worth it😅

[vapid forum]

Wonder if they could improve showdown as well

Give us 0.0001 more rewards in exchange for permanent looses

[steady umbra]

Oh no

[vapid forum]

Submit my feedback

[steady umbra]

Do i have to?

[vapid forum]

Yeah

[steady umbra]

Can i write it with Word and then make emoji out of it and just send the emoji? 🔎

[slow minnow]

Please get rid of Lester within the in-game customer service. Every time they reply, the tickets have just been closed out unresolved. Whenever I see their name pop up, I am not surprised it hasn’t been resolved…I then have to raise another ticket which then does get resolved quite well, by someone else. This wastes time. If they don’t know how the game works or can’t be bothered to learn. They need to go. Thank you.

I would be more patient if they were new. However, I recognise the name from months (maybe even years) from before…

[vapid forum]

I'll take what i can 😌

[lavish heron]

I didn’t do anything in my other alliance and got the alliance rewards. Here I neither received alliance nor solo rewards despite falling into the categories and my alliance getting 1st place

[lavish heron]

I think it was obvious from the start that it wasn’t worth it… using your materials on this new throwdown is a waste. I just do the regular ones and don’t bother with the exclusive task…

[jade mesa]

Me too been at it about the same time .. this is my third post

[lavish heron]

Exactly… well said. This new TD is useless. The rewards are crap. So you spend thousands of plasma and bios for just 1 red crystal and the rewards gotten at the end is NOTHING compared to what you will spend… why do it??

What pains me is that I see f2p using up all they have on that event and later they come online and complain about wanting rewards or better chances to catch up… smh 🤦🏾

[jade mesa]

Just wanted to say @terse agate I’ve seen some of your posts
Thanks
It’s encouraging to see players like you and others speaking out … just trying to add my voice to yours and the others … maybe we will be ignored still … but who knows eventually Devs might do what they promised

[charred swift]

Any event that pitches alliance members against each other is a bad event - rewards or no rewards - Throwdown needs a complete rethink not just the level at which rewards are gained

Events should look to get alliance members working together

[terse agate]

Weird

[terse agate]

Thanks love….
Together we can at least speak up…..
But basically you and I know better.
That being said, I refuse to give up and roll over🤣😂

[steady umbra]

Hi Rising Sun! You can share these kind of CS responces on #cs-response-screenshots . add your request/ question and answer from CS.

[jade mesa]

Me too absolutely refuse to give up 🤣🤣🤣 nice to meet someone as dedicated (or stubborn) as me

[terse agate]

For me, it’s stubborn, I am afraid….
And dumb too🤣😂🤣😂

[jade mesa]

Yep … same here🤣

[vale yoke]

Someone said stubborn and dumb? 👀

You rang?

[terse agate]

🤣😂🤣

[jade mesa]

🤣🤣🤣

[terse agate]

Hey love😘😘

[vale yoke]

Groot!

[terse agate]

😘😘🤗🤗

[jade mesa]

Honestly what you have done promoting C maj and others (my teammates btw) has been wonderful Tyvm Liannin

[terse agate]

Liannin is the best!!!😍

[vale yoke]

I just wanna help people, that's all

Y'all are the real MVPs

[terse agate]

And stubborn and dumb too….
Perhaps that’s why I like her🤣😂🤣

[jade mesa]

What’s sad is the devs already have the solution … they did it when they released Gen 7 to 12 Limitless … just don’t understand why they don’t continue

[vale yoke]

For real 🤣 it's all true

[jade mesa]

Yep

[terse agate]

The devs are wondering why there are so many complaints, the have not the faintest idea of what they are doing 🤣😂🤣

Oh wait, they don’t read the complaints

They think they do a marvellous job

[vale yoke]

See I think they know what they're doing, but confused why it isn't as effective as it would have been three years ago. Simply, we aren't in a COVID lockdown with stimulus money floating around.
We have real bills, jobs, families, and time constraints, so we don't want to spend hours in a game to grind a paltry reward, but we also don't want to spend the money to get the same reward quickly.
They're woefully out of touch with what the community wants and needs, and often, only listen to specific demographics rather than taking the feedback and voices as the sound of the People.

[terse agate]

With the cross gen states they have no clue what the consequences are…..
Same with the last minute change of states to be merged, since that created an odd number of states in that bracket…
They “solved” it by merging a few states a second time, which generated new problems….

I feel they are making some panic decisions not thinking through the consequences.

[vale yoke]

Put that way, it feels like someone is saying "those are Future Devs problems, but we aren't in the future, so... Oh well."

[terse agate]

Well, those “future devs” ignore the issues they have caused

They just implemented it, filled the checkbox “problem solved” and then bury it

Meaning the problem of one state not having an SvS is a bigger problem than the issues that come from the second state merge…
The matchmaking system is already horrible, but it doesn’t take in account some had a double merge, meaning we have had impossible SvS matches.

The matchmaking system is horrible, but it doesn’t take into account the fact some skipped heroes, making the matchings even worse…

[digital glacier]

The problem isn't that some did double merge, the problem has a more root cause than that.

[wide wraith]

how can 11 players have the same raid score as 18 who are a hight plasma level on average

[ivory trellis]

🤣

[wise yoke]

How is raid score calculated?

I suspect it is the same way as probability percentages are calculated

[wide wraith]

i dont think even the Devs know

[wise yoke]

A random number with little meaning

I now have a higher raid score than a much stronger player in my alliance. No idea why. We play the same matches, competitions etc. he is higher plasma, better heroes, better everything than me - except I have more troops

[wide wraith]

like many have said, the Devs couldnt run a bath

[worn pewter]

So we are just changing match making for svs after it’s been published huh

[vale yoke]

[tiny quiver]

Come on Shadow you know the dev’s are good at something…running to the bank …

[vale yoke]

Well when you've lost as much money in revenue between March and now as this company has, bank runs tend to be a lot easier.

[tiny quiver]

They still don’t learn though…shame really they had a great game…

[lime zealot]

Decrease time of RR and KOH please, to 30 mins, like it was done with Azurtane.
Rewards not worthy of effort.

[tropic echo]

@vale yoke through ascension, customer service has obtained the Legendary stupid * Moronitis *with an ultra rare skill unlimited frustration and dumbfoundedness
🤣

I have for shrek to

[cloud ridge]

@merry scroll / @feral sinew / @gray dragon When will the correct SOTF cross ranking rewards be issued to players.

You can't just use 4 imaginary states in SOTF as an excuse for this and have it go unnoticed for a whole week. It's dumb and even an achievement by your standards.

[worn pewter]

You must be weak and not enjoy rr. Do not change rr and make it an abortion

I want to know why the state we were matched with changed overnight

For svs

[thin jay]

something is damned wrong with this F** game it kept restarting and when i rebooted it i cant enter reservoir raid and it says i quit which i didnt

[lime zealot]

False, I am close to 4000%.
Another version?

After you will do RR for 3 years, I want to see if you will object - if you still will be around, that is

[pallid willow]

Is just once a week every 2 weeks lmao if it makes you bored don’t play it 🤷🏻‍♀️

[lime zealot]

Rr and koh take turns, its every week

And i already stopped doing bunch of poorly rewarding events, if i will stop doing more i will lose means of properly developing

[pallid willow]

Um yea, like i said, every two weeks rr 😂

[lime zealot]

And every 2 weeks koh

[pallid willow]

1hr goes by fast tho

I do hate koh lol

But rr is the only one where theres still 1% left of strategy

[lime zealot]

I hate both, after few years of repeating same thing again and again would be weird if i didnt
But i need some rewards from rr/koh stores

[pallid willow]

I want rr league to come back yea, even if low tiers good rewards

[digital glacier]

Umm. I'm confused
Gen 13 & 14 have higher stats than gen 15. But gen 15 cost more?

🙄

Wtf 🙄

[cloud ridge]

Gen 13, 14, 15 all have same stats now no?

But, they always do the whole new gens cost more and older gens less

[cosmic tulip]

You have removed all my cross state throw down rewards without notifying the players there was even an issue, just helped your self in hopes no one would notice. What was the point of playing that event !!! Due to the changes, weren’t able to get all the mile stone rewards and now this. @merry scroll

[tepid rivet]

If they have same stats, they should have same hero power as well but funnily my Nikola has less hero power although higher skills level than Robert. It's nonsense FP math

[placid hornet]

I reported this. From my backpack has gone more essence fragments. I have some before and they are gone

[digital glacier]

No. They not the same.
Not exactly.
There's a very very small % more for gen 13 and 14 than gen 15.
At least there was last week when I looked 🤣

Ok. By your logic, gen 13 should be less than gen 14. Like has always been the case. But this still doesn't hold true either. As you see. Nikola is the same cost as Wolfe.

[strong grove]

mm must be fully compensated for bug

[cosmic tulip]

Same, the only amount that remains is the purchased essences from the random crate.
Very disappointed with them, zero word..

[solid oriole]

are you sure in it?

[astral tree]

When will November feed back appear?

[placid hornet]

The only one remained are from 1 x throwdown reward

[solid oriole]

mine heroes show otherwise (both max brain, maddies without updates kills though)

[cosmic tulip]

I don’t even have that 🥺

[astral tree]

Ok I see it. So in November feedback summary...can someone explain to me how the throwdown issues are not even mentioned?

[strong grove]

The new alliance throwdown is a big injustice

[astral tree]

Our mods decided not to even include all the feed back about it in the summary

Go check it out

[stuck elbow]

If i am not mistaken there is weekly feedback. So what was reported this week, will be chosen for top 10 for next week and reupvoted. A mod can correct me if i am wrong

[astral tree]

Something that was upvoted thousands of times was not even mentioned in the summary

[stuck elbow]

The ray spin one?

[astral tree]

Alliance throwdown

It's not there

Other than a brief paragraph about the bug at the start

[cloud ridge]

Well, they screwed that up then if so 😂, making them all same stats was an issue for lots especially after hero skipped states and KG saying to focus on gen 15 and 16 as they'll be stronger anyways...

[stuck elbow]

That is feedback from 2 weeks ago. Next one will include the feedback about new throwdown

[cloud ridge]

Cost wise as well yes, but they seem to be grouped based on the hero class system? Whatever it's called, which might be why but still doesn't make much sense.

[strong grove]

Sos customer service only has bots. So no matter how much we complain, they don't look at it

[astral tree]

Customer service has been a waste of time for years

[digital glacier]

@solid oriole

[strong grove]

😱

[strong grove]

🤑💸💲

[digital glacier]

Gen 13 - 2417.77
Gen 14 - 2417.03
Gen 15 - 2417.22

Thought they were all supposed to have the same stats?
If stats almost identical, why gen 13,14 same price, but gen 15 more?

[digital glacier]

Not my account. My old R5

[cloud ridge]

You know, I shouldn't really be surprised at this point

[digital glacier]

+/-0.74%
Pretty insignificant
But it's still not same stats like the system mail said.
It also doesn't explain why different cost in vouchers.

[cloud ridge]

It is yeah, but it should match and not be another screw up to add to the list. My only guess would be how the hero types are listed then. But, who knows...

[fallow lodge]

I'd worry about gen 16 price and how hard it is to get frags....Devs fix that....I may say please but I don't think you deserve it

[digital glacier]

So we pay 2 tickets extra for gen 13 because of their "special" attribute type, 🤣 devs gfy.

[stuck elbow]

Because stats for gen 13 and 14 were increased to match gen 15, not gen 15 stats were decreased to match gen 13 and 14

We should be grateful they didn't increase the price on gen 13 and 14

[digital glacier]

Max gen 15 stats - max gen 13 stats = bonus stats to give to hero
÷ 3 apply that to the last upgrade in each for level 3/3
Not hard 🤣

[cloud ridge]

They should all be same stats, that's the thing.

[digital glacier]

We should be grateful koh and rr doesn't have an admission ticket price for 4.99 🤣

[stuck elbow]

I see all 2417

[cloud ridge]

They couldn't even get that right regardless how minimal the difference is

If you only read that part then sure

[digital glacier]

Do you know what happens to hero stats when you apply legendary tempest gear?

[stuck elbow]

What has tempest arm to do with hero base stats?

[fallow lodge]

Games gone to the dogs anyway, bugs,lag.its set to get worse. Devs don't care I suggest everyone look forward and think to your self, why spend money or worry about change when most things don't work in game. For example what's the point even getting hero if can only use them between the bugs

[strong grove]

Even after unlocking our t12, there is still no crystal in the lucky card 😬😒

[digital glacier]

Without legendary tempest gear
Gen 13 - 2417.77
Gen 14 - 2417.03
Gen 15 - 2417.22

With legendary tempest gear
Gen 13 - 2707.90
Gen 14 - 2707.07
Gen 15 - 2707.28

Thats because of a 12% hero damage bonus.
That 0.74% differential now becomes 0.83%
And you know what else.
Behemoths now have a 0.83% bonus for all Behemoth skills that use hero stats for adding extra damage / damage reduction
So, with max heroes, max behemoths, max gems, max tempest gears, that 0.74% differential now becomes well over 40% differential. But 40% stats doesn't show a lot. But an extra 6% damage reduction and
Extra 6% damage bonus from behemoths when skills activate very very often in battle do provide a lot of strength.

[fallow lodge]

Nerd alert

Joke bud🤣

[digital glacier]

So... You see all the same
I see 0.74% different

[cloud ridge]

It's wrong regardless and that's the main thing. Copy and paste they still messed up

[knotty cosmos]

Horrible lag in RR today. It felt like playing MM the entire time.

[astral tree]

Lag and freeze here. Had to relog 5 times during RR

[digital glacier]

Visual aid to help you

[solid oriole]

Why your maxed heroes have more stats, that my maxed heroes? What's going on?

[digital glacier]

You have gen 16?

[solid oriole]

Yes

[digital glacier]

You're missing something on maddie.

Your Evelyn the same.
Your maddie not.

[solid oriole]

That adx extra stats from lvling skills?

[digital glacier]

What's maddie upgrade look like?

[solid oriole]

But i checked it's written nowhere in my interface

[solid oriole]

All maxed except skills upgrade. Skills 9/9/9.

[digital glacier]

Show please 🙏

[solid oriole]

In few minutes

[strong grove]

Santa is not coming this year due to a bug in the deer. From Dev 😂 🦌

[digital glacier]

Your maddie isn't red like you're Evelyn. So you are missing something. Most likely you are at 2/3 on one of the last set of 3/3

[tame lintel]

@merry scroll
How should I respond??

#it's not his internet

[strong grove]

😬

[stiff ether]

Good for FP. Do the minigames and buy bundles.

[strong grove]

I had the same problem

[digital glacier]

I understand your frustration. Thank you for your support and understanding
Your (R5),
Canadian Moose

[stiff ether]

And stay tuned for more exciting content

[strong grove]

Freeze problem

[rigid crag]

Yes unfortunately Mining Mayhem and RR were horrible this week. In Mining Mayhem I got kicked out of the game 16 times during the 1 hour event on Saturday. And MM and RR there was a terrible lag if 3 or 4 seconds every time you clicked on a button….it was difficulty to send matches, speed, etc

At times the events are becoming unplayable

[strong grove]

Many of us had the same problem

[digital glacier]

14 utc RR L2 was fine.
Not looking forward to the HUGE 18 UTC match making blowout time slot 🙈

[strong grove]

Special mining mayhem

[solid oriole]

you was right. i didn't do one upgrade actually. i didn't see it. I thought i maxed. But it becomming red only after upgrading all thre skilld (skill enchantment or whatver it named). but this skill enchancements give no stats

[strong grove]

Lag and freez 😩

[solid oriole]

but anyway such difference not even a difference. it can be counted as same stats. thought it's strangem to do so

[digital glacier]

Yes, true on the red part 😅 but 30% something in stats, I knew was something like the end skill. The stats go up the more down the line you get

Anyone ever play a ps1 game on a newer console?

[strong grove]

Super Mario 🙈

[digital glacier]

Playing aps1 game back in the day, the graphics looked great, but man, you play that thing now on a ps5, woah...
Its so horrible looking 🙈

Its kind of like mm..... 🙈

[solid oriole]

@merry scroll / @feral sinew / @gray dragon when any of you will be able to answer?

[unreal lichen]

Lag, freeze, drop out - the amount of times I tell it to just kick me out already

[strong grove]

Is it crazy to play games like this on ps5? 🙈

[still tapir]

Is it bad when I can’t tell if MM is worst one week or not?🤣 RR was bad I got kick and couldn’t get back in for like 20 seconds. Got kick I think 3 times. Might have been the worst rr yet. I’m use to getting kicked out the game since it happens in a events 😅

[molten tinsel]

У меня пропало 358 золотых фрагментов

Куда я могу обратиться

[wispy junco]

У всех так, кто занял хоть какой то рейтинг в вызове союза

[molten tinsel]

1 место во всех рэйтингах

[storm silo]

Добрый вечер пропало 150 фрагментов что делать. То

[molten tinsel]

И списали больше чем нужно

[wispy junco]

У меня у самого украли 750 фрагментов(из них около 224 мои личные, и 6 фрагментов за первое место в союзном, а так же 501 фрагмент по ошибке игры, из которых 170 должны были дать мне за первое место)

[molten tinsel]

Так кому можно вопросу задать

[storm silo]

Надеюсь хоть дадут компенсации

[wispy junco]

Так же, за первое место даётся по 660 5-минуток, которые я не использова, но и их изьяли из сумки, хотя их не имели права отнимать)

[strong grove]

Write in feedback report

[wispy junco]

О какой компенсации может идти речь, если тут либо возврат всех затрат, либо откат до момента, когда они украли у нас все фрагменты) включая личные, которые были у нас до начала события

[digital glacier]

A started a new game.
Everytime I have lag in mm, I put a penny in a 1 gallon jug
When the jug is full, I take myself out for something to eat.

First time of playing my own game, I encountered issues.
I had to amend the rules of my own game.
I ran out of pennies. 🙈
I thought $10 would be enough.
😅

[storm silo]

Мда, просто люди огорчаться и уйдут с игры с этими разрабами

[wispy junco]

I wrote in that channel, I also wrote in support of the game. But it will be funny if they just send compensation for the fact that, as always, they introduce new events without prior verification

Many people spent all their savings, and eventually received 170 fragments for the first place, and 340 more by mistake, and after a couple of hours everything was taken away. And I really hope that they will not compensate in the form of a couple of fragments and a couple of hours.

[strong grove]

Видно, что разработчикам действительно плевать на игроков.

[wispy junco]

Очень)

[wispy junco]

Жаль здесь лишь одни модераторы, я уже подумываю через банки просто сделать возвраты, потому что ты тратишь деньги, копишь ресурсы по несколько месяцев, а потом ты получаешь-ничего, потому что новое событие, которые никто не просил, оказалось багованным, ведь у них нету команды тестировщиков, чтобы проверять как выполняется событие, как выдаются награды, работает ли правильно рейтинг союзов( понижение и повышение рангов союза )

[strong grove]

Didn't you complain to them?

Dev

[wispy junco]

Of course I complained, they said they would consider it in the near future, but I'm sure they will find an excuse not to return, for example (you spent 1 fragment, and we will not return your fragments for the first place)

[solid oriole]

truth. i also think about returning my money through banks. as fraud. because for example taking away gift codes rewards is fraud. And sending wrong migo rewards because of imaginary states in developer's minds is also fraud

[tropic ether]

I took 15th place inter-server ranking, in the Throwdown event. I got 20+20 fragments, but found that everything was missing from my backpack. I ask to return all my spent resources, biocapsules, acceleration, as well as compensation worthy of the time spent. Since this is a developer error, you must punish the programmer who made this mistake. Players should not suffer because of the developer's mistake. I hope that you will solve this issue in favor of the players. State 1259 \ ID: 140466831

[wide wraith]

they will just deny it

[strong grove]

🥶

[wide wraith]

were we supposed to be trying in TD, opps lol

[unreal lichen]

Yes in order to feel like you were kicked in the teeth by dev you had to waste a load of stuff in hopes of getting something they would then take back anyway. You are missing out on a kick in the teeth but I’m sure they will line some others up

[wide wraith]

its an event that should be deleted, with the crossover events being almost as bad

[wispy junco]

Of course, I think so too. As I said, they will find an excuse not to return it to us, at most, as they please, they will pay a small compensation. I won't deny that I remember when I received 700 fragments for the event, I spent about 250 on heroes, but I also know perfectly well how many fragments there should have been if they hadn't made a mistake with the awards, and I don't see these fragments

[wispy junco]

Yeah, this event is much more profitable for P2P than F2P

[wide wraith]

they will never admit they messed up, using there bots to fix any survey like they always do

[strong grove]

Same answer 😅

Dev bot

[wide wraith]

maybe use the email on the app store and report it directly

their is only 1 email now and its nothing to do with KG

[solid oriole]

truth. i still don't have my around 20k bios after gift codes incident

[wide wraith]

they dont care, remember regardless of what the Mods say. If feedback is about the incompetence of the Devs its immediately deleted

[wispy junco]

It's a small thing for them, but they still don't want to give a small thing.

[wide wraith]

of course they won't give extra out, if they did the whales would cry to their GMs

[wispy junco]

Let's remember that moderators are ordinary players, but with the opportunity to contact the developers. But sometimes I want to shout at them so that the messages reach the developers faster😅

[broken sequoia]

TD…..what is the thought behind an already not so fun event, that we used to do because “we had to for MIGO”, to make it even worse? Anybody thought it would make us spend? I think I have never bought so few bundles as I did last week, so I should actually thank you. And although the possible rewards looked great, hardly anybody got all (cross state nobody in our group made the 2M mark).
The alt alliance that always opens their levels….not even got to open level 1. Clearly a failed brain fart of someone…..well, clean the air, give the players good (!!) compensation and change it please.

Oh and give me the cross state rewards, at least give me what I have earned in this awful event!

[wispy junco]

New food for discussion

[tardy night]

Mods cannot reach any developer. They hardly reach the CMs who manage them lol

[broken sequoia]

Isn’t there enough?🤣

[wide wraith]

but they dont have the power to directly contact the Devs, they have to go through the same system as us

and dont forget, they get free packs for being a Mod

[wispy junco]

Then what's the point of this group if they don't even have that right? Just to get everyone together and complain to each other? Now I'm interested in it.

[tardy night]

Funnel all complaints while providing a soundboard and a free volunteer CS and free marketing.

[wide wraith]

basically thats all this group is for, their is no official recognition of it

[tardy night]

Then parse through complaints to check what they can make bank on

[solid oriole]

looked great? count carefully. all rewards in sum are less than 200 perals in pearls shop

[tardy night]

You wanna change something, suggest to them how it makes them money in the next update without large costs. See how they change it

[broken sequoia]

But for doing daily stuff (gathering, fiends, explore, etc) everything free is free….for F2P players the rewards with crystals and so were better than what we had.

[solid oriole]

yes, but for f2p 25600 points are a lot

i'm not f2p, and i had only 14k points

[wide wraith]

its a lot for low spenders as well

[solid oriole]

minimal rewards in sotf are more

[broken sequoia]

Agreed, it was crazy what was needed, that is why many did not get anywhere! We were lured in with rewards normal players would not be able to get….

[tardy night]

Which f2p was hoarding a sustainable 10k plasma for the next iteration of this mess though

[solid oriole]

and you hate to spend there much less

[solid oriole]

why? in pearls

and in sotf

[wide wraith]

they "test" these things in PTR but give those in there enough to complete it.
I use the term Test but its not really a test, in the truest sence of the word

[broken sequoia]

If that were true…..but the test in PTR was as bad as it was in live, if we could test at all due to glitches. And….if we make suggestions, they are ignored and it is up to people in live to complain.

[wide wraith]

i didnt say they know how to use PTR, after all a week long event only has like 2 days, if that

[broken sequoia]

Agreed!

[wide wraith]

i remember an episode of STTNG where a Q sped up tests and was told the results were useless, its the same with the PTR

[broken sequoia]

It is frustrating to test, see glitches, report and see exactly the same glitches in live.

[wispy junco]

Is PTR used at all now? I went into a chat in another discord group to answer a question

[wide wraith]

not properly most testing is in the live servers now

[wispy junco]

So let's make a request in feedback to hire testers

[wide wraith]

been done and ignored

[wispy junco]

It's a pity, but could have earned more if the events had been bug-free

[wide wraith]

you know that, I know that but the Devs have no idea

[wispy junco]

We need to explain to them, they are losing what they want to get from the very beginning🤣

[wide wraith]

all been done, there answer was there are not enough testers

[wispy junco]

Give me a way to contact them (mail, number, whatever), I'll explain to them for everyone

[wide wraith]

on the appstore there is an email, if i post it, it would proberly be deleted but the incorrectly set bot

[wispy junco]

You can write to me in PM

[wide wraith]

if the mods actually watched the chat they would have stepped in then but no as normal they do nothing

[e-mail]

thats the only email to use now

[wispy junco]

Thanks, I copied their mail.

[wide wraith]

but they will ignore it, after 6 weeks still no reply to one i sent

[wispy junco]

maybe I can get through to them (definitely not)..

[wide wraith]

i am tempted to email capcom and let them know how bad the crossover with sos is

[astral tree]

To get promoted in throwdown you have to finish top 3

And now also score an acceptable amount of points in kings group opinion

[knotty nacelle]

And I remember watching one youtuber who was telling us last week that throwdown changes are great😂

[wide wraith]

of course they do probably paid to say so

[tidal apex]

Test server throwdown had troop training tasks

[lavish heron]

What’s this?? What do they mean??. Which reward is level 4?? These guys are sick I guess

[tidal apex]

So that point threshold looks way easier to achieve

Live release somehow forgot about troop training tasks, instead it had use training speedups that gave like 3 times less points...

So do not hate on youtubers, test server TD was different than live version, it was slightly better

[wide wraith]

the over-riding feedback was to remove TD, afterall its a worthless event

[tidal apex]

They like making bad events worse. Look at duels. It was bad but at least every alliance member was getting max rewards. Now new edition not every person gets same rewards....

Need to compete with alliance mates for skin set

[wide wraith]

of course they will, its only for the top players, the CMs never play the game so dont feed back anything, the Devs have no idea. But its ok there is always the Dev-Bot who will say their bots prefer it

[lavish heron]

So after my alliance finished 1st in throwdown, they tell us this. How is that possible??

[vernal moss]

Hi chief, it seems the expectation is to reach level 7 or higher in TD to grant the promotion, it's an unexpected change that we definitely haven't been very happy about.

With this; I'd encourage you to submit your opinion about it in #📋︱feedback-reporting but please do read #📋︱feedback-how-to before doing so!

[finite jacinth]

Has anyone lost the tempest trade option with the new update??? I just noticed.

[unreal lichen]

I can no longer buy Essence bits if that’s what you mean

[vivid grove]

Yes the trade option is gone for me too.

[still tapir]

Same but never knew it was opened in the first place 😅

[hardy cargo]

Such rewards wow, I can't thank you enough

[cloud ridge]

I think those are worth 5 million alliance points and 100k solo

[solid oriole]

i'm sorrym to bother you, but can you pelase add screenshot of allaince ranking?

[still tapir]

This right here should be enough evidence that TD revamp was garbage

[still tapir]

Well you can craft 8 new troop gems at least

[solid oriole]

and open two more possbility to do tasks in throwdown by 1200 bios

[hardy cargo]

Yeah, it's not nothing, but still... waaay below any expectations. But maybe I'm just an idiot for having any expectations at all. After playing this game for almost 3 years I should know better.

[digital glacier]

Gen 16 :
Only angelica is harder to get

🤣

[still tapir]

My mini alliance only managed 100k I think only one alliance hit 1 million 🤣

Honestly would mind this revamp if they did completely remove troop building.

[digital glacier]

Rank 1 in my group got 2.1m
Rank 2 in my group got 1.3m
Rank 7 got 500k
🤣

[digital glacier]

You should look at all the crybabies that cried about ptr having only troop training for 4200 points a day......

[still tapir]

We were rank 6 and hit 1.1 m.

[digital glacier]

I would like to know their addresses so I can send them a thank you gift for their crying.

[still tapir]

I’d take run now 😂.

[digital glacier]

Paper bag filled with water and 💩 wrapped in Christmas wrapping paper that's been glued to the bag. So when they unwrap it. It goes everywhere.

Merry Christmas crybabies

[tardy night]

Organic fertilizer

[marble willow]

Smh

[steel musk]

Devs : thanks to empty backpack for nothing

is throwdown rule say need lvl 7 to qualify to higher rank?

[golden ingot]

Indeed... cause if the feedback isn't in the right format the developers can't read or understand it. I think they need to change the format though - cause from where I sit the can't read or understand it anyway. Maybe try your report in pig latin?

[golden ingot]

That's pointless anyway. Lot's of option to buy - but I have yet to log in and be able to sell anything. The store is always in "market closure". I wonder how many listing seconds there are between closures?

[digital glacier]

think they should use this as some type of criteria for how active a state is. this is 1 point of damage 😂

This lasted what, 14 days?

16?

This includes alts. 🙄

[frigid vault]

Seen less than that with my spy accounts for our migo group

[stable cosmos]

Harder to get organic matter through the mail. Use glitter instead. Springloaded in a box. Way harder to clean up too

[rotund rover]

Rank 1 in our group ended on 1.99M ... Missed it by that much...
When even multiple top 100 200B BP alliances can't reach maximum awards ... Obvious bad balancing

[astral tree]

The summary with the complaints about throwdown has been added to November feedback. Please go upvote all post you agree with

[jovial falcon]

<@&628563208164081690>s does the KoH tier matches stop an alliance kicking a psychotic player.?

[devout plover]

Hello! You can kick member of the alliance as long they are not registered as participants.

[jovial falcon]

Thank you

[devout plover]

Of course!

[solid oriole]

Am i understanding correctly that i have to spend 5000 diamonds just to open day 3? Or it will be ok if i'll just buy pack per 500 diomonds and it will open day3 tomorrow?

i am very confused about it

[devout plover]

The "event" is accumulative if you buy one more bundle of 2500 you will get the next one.