📋︱feedback-discussion

[steel musk]

looks they don't want then

also they care about big spenders..
like pow they could make it auto marches ( everyone have same power) to make it fair matchmaking.. but looks they complaint about it..

so devs didn't change it

and they changed transfer event for them

was 4 states at least leading.. they make it 2 only last transfer

so they can move

[exotic wasp]

The state of 850 has been deleted

[steel musk]

they know that's will leave some states weak and some too strong.. so on svs matchmaking will be suck.. but they did it

because some asked for it

for sure not f2p or mid spender

but there no fun if matchmaking so bad.. imagin on svs you set march then watching until svs end.. because the other state can't win even if they do 3 - 10 rallies same time.. just fill hospital for nothing.. sounds fun lol

if you think they care about our feedback here.. why they didn't change this yet?

also saberlot.. He's barely here. 🤦‍♂️

[digital glacier]

This is their solution for states that was skipped the 2 or 3 generations worth of heroes.

[steel musk]

we didn't skip gen and we have it like this

gen 11.. have gen 10 frags in Ray's place

[woven spire]

Nice

Just skip game

[woven spire]

Who downvote this should be locked up

[tardy night]

That kung foo guy downvotes everything. Ignore the noise

[woven spire]

What state?😂

[feral mango]

I would love it if my name wasn’t censored. My name is Judi. All I see is 4 stars

U can use it in a sentence though

[mighty gorge]

Why are you doing this? Its not your responsibility or job, what you should be doing is telling them to use some proper API integration with a real time profanity filter instead of their crappy internal coding.

These companies really infuriate me when the spend 10x more than needs to be on trying to do something with spurious bits of java code or other languages, and 200 developers, when there are perfectly fine off the shelf products that do this day in day out using simple REST based integrations.

[digital glacier]

Yup.

[unreal lichen]

In operation event

[digital glacier]

1,000 tomatoes + 1 wood = 0, because chef is full.

[fiery zephyr]

That’s the least of the game’s problems, but a funny one - in the last Migo seasonal badges screen all the badges for locating heroes are mixed lol
Skyrocket success for locating Marcos (hunter hero) has infantry hero emblem;
Unbridled expedition for locating Chukon (infantry hero) has rider hero emblem;
Bullseye virtuoso for locating Lan (rider hero) has hunter hero emblem 🙂

[digital glacier]

Should check out the last one, it's the funniest of them all 😆🤣

[zealous plover]

This is wild never see anything close to this lol

[storm solstice]

Devs will consider a recycling system for the not usable material. 😂

Probably tomato's and such.

[digital glacier]

Max the book. Get rewarded with items to upgrade the book.
Also. The name of it is hilarious

[storm solstice]

Money mastermind

[digital glacier]

the player isn't the mastermind, the Devs are the mastermind for giving that as a reward 🤣

It's a meme in itself to anyone who knows sos and has half a functioning brain 😆

[violet igloo]

Check out my screenshot in KOTH discussion. 10 against 24 and 30. Team with 30 were unable to join at all. Second time in a row they’ve paired small teams with much larger ones. Bad quality control by senior coders.

[viscid moss]

We have another problem in our state. One player managed to get Angelica. Since then it's been impossible for us to win anything here even though I'm the strongest player. Unfortunately I don't have it. A hero who destroyed the entire balance in a state. What's the point in that?

[unreal lichen]

Force you to spend to get it

Next time

[viscid moss]

That's not the solution.

[unreal lichen]

Unfortunately it is the only one

Or except your not top RL anymore

Hey there, I know it is really frustrating I'm sorry for it, Please submit a suggestion as feedback to make game better in #📋︱feedback-reporting in correct format given in pins. Thank you!

Now that’s the solution you were looking for 😂🤣

[woven spire]

Shes quite strong

[viscid moss]

Yes that is the Problem.

[unreal lichen]

Most people don't have her and that's a disaster

[viscid moss]

Yes it is. You need one player with her and all Balance is for the ass.

[woven spire]

Game and balance😂

1 thing sos doesnt have is balance

[stable cosmos]

Doesn't have much game either. Gotta wonder what would happen if the whole game was just a leaderboard

[thorny plume]

I just wanna say thank you kingsgroup and funplus'

[ember mantle]

She's that good?

[thorny plume]

Thank you very much for allowing me to use 30k bio healing without asking me if I am really really sure I wanna do something THAT stupid

How the hæll can theese buttons be so close to eachother without any warning or double check thing ?

Well designed UI

Well designed indeed

If someone with 3 chromosones to many were to design something, this is how they would have done it too

[unreal lichen]

Hi there, As I know I always get a notification for me to be sure if I want to use bios or no. Sometimes it is annoying so I tap dont show again and it is gone for the day till next reset. On next reset it gives me a new reminder msg before using bios. So I believe you have had accidentally tapped on a "Don't show again" button.

Never click the "do not show this again" box

[stable cosmos]

This march has a low number of riders, don't show again.

Next day: this march has a low number of riders

[unreal lichen]

You can always Submit a suggestion in #📋︱feedback-reporting as feedback regarding your issue or to make game better in correct format given in pins.

[stable cosmos]

Or the 4 stupid messages in AH that come up EVERY TIME

[stiff ether]

On the bright side, you received some points in thanksgiving event

[thorny plume]

Hadnt even touched market today before so how can I have clicked that button ?

And im well aware of that button

So dont click it when I do market, I did market now with what little bio I had open

[unreal lichen]

Hmm, if that so. Then I had opened a ticket to in game CS, they can undo it I'm not sure but I think so!

[thorny plume]

Hah yea no

[storm solstice]

Crates opened?

That's where it often happens.

[thorny plume]

Out of the times I have ever contacted customer service I have NEVER gotten help. So not gonna spend time even bothering or trying for 30k bio. Ill just mentally pretend i speeded more in a ress raid or something

[thorny plume]

Hmmm crates ?

[storm solstice]

Plasma crate e.g. Where you choose between plasma and lightweight plasma

[thorny plume]

Yes, yes I have

Does THAT trigger a ok ?

Wow lol

Thank god it was only 30k, Ill just punish funplus back with limiting my spendings for a couple weeks and we even

If those crates can give same ok on bio spendings we back to the three surpluss chromosones

And its a error likely because NOW i got warned

Even on donation

So yes, back to good job

[digital glacier]

Like @unreal lichen said about don't click it.
Even if you check the box, then unchecked it.
The game will think you checked it, and won't ask you to confirm anymore. At least that's how it was until about a week ago when I did it on my alt on accident, then spent 100 bio out of curiosity 🤣
Its been this way for almost 4 years now

[thorny plume]

I havent is what I meant. i got the box now when tried to donate plasma

[digital glacier]

As for what MKR said, I click that box on the daily basis, so, Either I'm lucky, or that doesn't trigger it 🙈
They have always been 2 different Popups for me 😅 hope it stays that way.

Also. Another good tip, only open bio you plan to spend, like.
Backpack is back account.
On the screen next to rss is like your wallet.

[thorny plume]

Or to open boxes

But not when to use bio in market or for speeding up

[digital glacier]

Market stall?

[thorny plume]

Yes and market stall was opened after i did the Speedy heal

So its a error I believe

In market stall it wasnt a box either, but hadnt touched marked until after the hospital accident as its normally the last thing I do before I go to sleep

[digital glacier]

Yeah. I know what you mean. I was asking if you visited that earlier in the day.

[thorny plume]

Nope

[digital glacier]

It doesn't always reset that confirmation at 0utc 🙈

[thorny plume]

Thats kinda bad

[digital glacier]

It's someone later than that

[thorny plume]

Or more then kinda

You would think a ressourse like that they would atleast ask us if we wanna waste heaps on useless stuff like healing

They normally do

[digital glacier]

I haven't really tested it but I have seen on occasion, hours after, it don't ask. 🙈Could be a midnight local time reset 🙈who knows

[digital glacier]

One place that never does. Vip points 🤣

[thorny plume]

Whats strange now is that I havent used any bio previusly today

[digital glacier]

Easily able to dump 50k bio without a confirmation popup 🤣

Or 20k whatever the biggest one is

[prime hound]

Would be nice if you pulled too much out of the backpack, you could put it back in

[thorny plume]

Only a march buff and gathering buff

And donations, but donations i get questions on and got one recently when tested so havent tapped that one either

Went straight from that to 28k in healing without a warning pupup, so the popup hasnt been activated today. Im not a game developer, but that seems kind of flawed

And market you can see above there with -10 -10 etc so that was me testing afterwards to see if i got a popup. So be weary, i know this is against the everything we as players and community believe but I believe that we may have encountered a small error of flaw, i know it seems unlikely that such a smooth running game like this has bugs but here we are.. this might be one

[digital glacier]

Would be nice if all the rss was 1 amount. Not.
1 / 100 / 1000 / 100000 / 1000000 my backpack would lose 1 page alone from that 🤣

Be nice if several things were a reality involving the backpack.
Like. Idk. Maybe. Umm... Organization 🤣

[thorny plume]

Filters for backpack

[pallid willow]

Only good thing about sos is that you don’t really notice the trash players playing on weekends, usually in other games specially competitive ones the garbage casual players looooove to go online on weekends and make everyone else constant players miserable with their presence, in SOS we never notice it 🤗

[thorny plume]

And consolidation as you mentioned

[digital glacier]

I notice it.
My corny alliance played koh today 🤣

[digital glacier]

Tab for "skins". Which to devs are decorations, statues, frames, hq skins, march skins, etc etc.

[digital glacier]

I said corny 🙈 meant to say "current"

Swipe keyboard

[thorny plume]

Im waiting for the day where we can get something for recycling or using alot of the items

imagine how much wasted VIP is sitting around

Would be nice if they could add VIP 15 or so and give some neutral hero completion capsules or something for it as the yellow shards is garbage, I got nearly more VIP in my rucksack then in my VIP 12 i think

[digital glacier]

The smart whales will spend on whatever gets them angelica. Not tempest gears

Then spend money for gear 🤣

[digital glacier]

With what, rewards from 10 years ago.

[thorny plume]

Angelica is a i win button

I was 9 mil in plus so its not years ago, its still counting 🤢

[digital glacier]

Only need tempest gear with a max angelica, if you fight another max angelica 🤣🤣🤣

I have to decide what to do in game. It's closing in on 0utc 🙈

[thorny plume]

But vip 15 or so could perhaps be something to sink the vip into seeing as its useless, would be nice if we could transfer to alts on same accounts or something that would make sense

[digital glacier]

When you quit, another will replace you.

[thorny plume]

The revenues are kind of dropping a bit but I think most that will have already quit

I know, crafted 100 and got basicly just crap

Not one single good one

Levelled alot of em to second upgrade to see, nothing useful

But you can get them still for free or cheap with effort

Rushing it is what costs

Live with it not beeing done instant and you save enough to buy yourself a new cayenne instead

Pearl events handing em out in heaps, the explore event throws them after you if you are whale enough

Resident Evil event store handing em out ø, dont rush and you save alot

Mine has been free and i probably have 40 ish pieces

So i wouldnt say thats worth rushing

Just like the crystals you make for troops ø, mine was free. Still only 6es with good upgrades.

Rush is what costs

So doubt those things are chasing away whales tbh

If so whales need to learn to play smarter

Yes and was it smart to spend 30k for some wings ?

If your sitting on a yacht somewhere outside nice with tigers on your boat you brought from dubai sniffing Coke from a grade escorts that you about to fly home to Europe with your privat plane swiping your card like crazy getting wings in a game you arent smart enough to simply say no to you deserve the dent in your wallet. And they dont likely care about their dent either. Smart whales dont do that and therefore I dont think those wings will make em quit

Not all whales are smart, but those who are put their money in things better then wings

And those that dont care they dont care

For some 40k is like for me buying a cheeseburger

Id be more worried about them quitting when p16 comes

And tbh whales are the best as they finance the game we all love and care for

And some of them are even nice, some less, but some are quite good and the quite good ones are often the smart ones that care for their state and players around them

P16 i think will scare more of em away

Yes but that was just some wings

I mean seriusly, wings. 90 days something new comes

Pearl events been great lately if you ask me

We get tonns of stuff for very very little

And that is catering to the middle class

Weve had back to back Pearl event with a resident evil thing having same store

I dunno, i grabbed 4000 hours + speedups last couple weeks+ 300 dino/ monkey frags+1500 batteries + tonns of formation stuff and 1200 red crystals for around 50 euro

Thats catering to the middle class if you ask me

And the game needs both whales and a small time spending middle class so i think having those events now was good.
And the big spenders that decided they wanted Angelica frags well they REALLY had to pay

And some got some, but i agree too few

If they were to fix something they could remove the leading state curse some states have as that is something that really breaks the game

Seeing as its made so that your leading in your cluster, if your cluster is weak your basicly fugged as you can be leading in a bad cluster but really weak compared to other clusters that have stronger leading states

If im not mistaken

That had made ALOT players quit

Because it slowly kills states when you cant invite fresh Activity

[stable cosmos]

I think they've reverted the free slot machine again. Haven't had a chris frag in days now. B----rds

This is MUCH worse than ptr

[grand summit]

Do I see correctly? In throwdown, rank 6-10 we get 1 fragment of a 16th generation hero?

[stable cosmos]

I don't care about the limits. Its the cost of those points, wheres troop training?

[wooden dew]

Hi Manbearpig, introducing universal hero completion capsules (similar to universal gold fragments) is a great idea - especially since the gold ones are basically useless now. VIP level aside (which itself could also use an overhaul), a new item in the form of a universal capsule is long overdue and completely justifiable, imo. Thanks for sharing. I’ll forward that for you.

[wide wraith]

they should have just scraped TD not changed it for the worse

[vague shoal]

They did make the rewards better/more relevant

[stable cosmos]

Mathwise. The plasma is worth 20 less than the task used to be. The speedups are worth 30 less than a task to use speedups

[vague shoal]

But not having a good task is garbage

[stable cosmos]

100 plasma was 420+. Now 100 plasma is 400

[tropic wedge]

Check to make sure migo throwdown is open before doing any please. I am seeing some reports of it not being unlocked yet

Working on getting a bug report up

[cloud ridge]

Agreed, I hate my tasks.....

1k bios for 1 extra task as well...

[marble grove]

Am I insane or did Azure not open either? 🤔🤔

[wide wraith]

they should just delete TD and send skip coins

[cloud ridge]

Plus, not in migo currently so dno what point requirements are

[marble grove]

They really forgot how to open events though?

[marble grove]

Probably like 200k points because you can get 70k a day now 😂

[cloud ridge]

@merry scroll / @feral sinew / @gray dragon For once stop releasing broken stuff

[cloud ridge]

Honestly I feel you'll be right, given how much points can be gained from the badge task 👀

[vague shoal]

Azurtane shouldn’t open until tomorrow

[marble grove]

Last week? It's been there since then

[cloud ridge]

Azure is the least of my worries right now 😂

[vague shoal]

Who has badges to upgrade 🤣

[stable cosmos]

I wanted a relatively easy train troops for 4200. That would have finished normal throwdown. Its not there

[marble grove]

They already messed it up giving 20k+ points for 1 day task when not many would get that by end anyway 😂 and they now have solo cross state rank to entice more spending in TD

[cloud ridge]

There's cross state ranking migo now for td?

[stray acorn]

Am I a joke to devs?

[marble grove]

Yep

[cloud ridge]

Well

[marble grove]

Honest truth? Yes

[cloud ridge]

Looks like I'm not gonna bother 😂

[stoic elm]

🤣

[stray acorn]

10k plasma?!

it's not like I'm gonna jump from P10 to P20

[marble grove]

Whales need a way to spend stupid amounts to save for plasma 15

[cloud ridge]

Yes, every 2 weeks 👀

Plus crystals, badges, speeds, etc

[stable cosmos]

Turn it all into polymers...

[stray acorn]

why would i waste that much of plasma on smth useless as TD?i could have got noice ranks during svs!

[cloud ridge]

Soon it'll be 10k monkey frags 👀

[marble grove]

Check solo cross state ranking reward

It's not aimed at you, it's aimed at people who'll buy 10k plasma a week if they could 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Feedback on throwdown in the main was delete it, or leave it alone. We got this why?

[cloud ridge]

As long as there's no migo for cross state rankings I'll live

[stray acorn]

🤌🤌🤌🤌

in my defense, we had it in PTR, it was not as horrible as it is now like always they changed things, BUT SRSLY?!

[marble grove]

You recycle 10? As it says +40points

[cloud ridge]

Well, players said it was alright given the troop task. KG went out their way to make sure we wouldn't get that to be happy

[marble grove]

Because if its not broken its got to be fixed

Or something like that right?

[stray acorn]

so devs have weekly meeting about "HOW TO RUIN THINGS SO PLAYERS ASK ABOUT OUR SANITY"

[marble grove]

Income > players sanity

[austere spoke]

Yeah keep not giving a f*** about what people say in PTR. I’m so done now 🙄

[stable cosmos]

This might do income. Its designed that way quite thoroughly

[stray acorn]

no

well yeah, it might be funny for those who have no idea what to buy becuz they already bought everything

[pallid willow]

🙄

[tropic wedge]

Observation:
New throwdown was released with no troop task, while all the other tasks have reduced points.

Consequence:
Players are angry. Where is the hero gear task? No Normal player has 10k plasma to spend randomly for throwdown.

Suggested Solution:
Return the troop task. Rethink the rest of it because no one likes it

words?

what do people think? what am i missing?

[stoic elm]

Even the ptr one already stinks of p2p but hey easy troop training 🤣 Now they turned it to a mini sotf

[white turret]

Am I the only one looking at these tasks and thinking there trash

[austere spoke]

And see the rewards now when you are in a competitive alliance. And the milestones

[stray acorn]

the problem is not only troop tasks but many other things like, we can't change tasks as before, the amount of things it ask is insane and also yes we're all angry

[austere spoke]

Everything is wrong

[white turret]

Where is the hero gear task

[pallid willow]

Im confused 🙄🙄🙄

[tropic wedge]

there is something up in bug reporting. I am sending it forward

[serene turtle]

The devs have outshined themselves with the changes to throwdown. Abysmal as it was before they’ve made it 1000000% worse.

[white turret]

Is it not every update there is some sort of minor/ major bug?

[wide wraith]

they dont care about players, even the CMs cant be bothered, you would think as they changed stuff the CMs would be on

[timber cargo]

Custom tasks are hot garbage, and no surprise, it isn’t synced with MIGO. What a joke…

[austere spoke]

They forgot the buying bundles custom task… I propose 5 points for every 9999 diamond bundle bought. Fml 🤦‍♀️

[cloud ridge]

26k solo points for max solo rewards...

Is it all states in cross state?

[marble grove]

So I can claim my 2 tasks 7 times

But 2 million as a team...

[white turret]

Not worth it

[stable cosmos]

Gather... 8000k resources? Why this phrasing? Is that not just 8 million?

[cloud ridge]

2 mil for 1 floppy disk thing

[marble grove]

So they made throwdown worse just with new pictures because all 1x

Give us our 110 hero designs back

[stable cosmos]

26000 solo points? Tf

[marble grove]

You can get that in a day with like 2k speeds or so 😂

Maybe 4k

[pallid willow]

Is devs ultimate goal in life to make us miserable in every single existing thing in game tho, do they laugh maniacally at us after each garbage change that makes us struggle harder?

[pallid willow]

I dont even want to spend ever 500 speeds on that crap 😂

[knotty cosmos]

26k solo. 2m alliance to get full rewards 🤣🤣🤣

[stable cosmos]

Thats 6 times more than the previous target and none of the tasks are worth that...

[marble grove]

Best part is, it's between sotf and svs prep, where people use their items, now need to save 10k of everything for throwdown too

[knotty cosmos]

Best my alliance ever scored was 800k. And that was with many troop tasks.

[pallid willow]

They really want to shut down this game asap uh

[marble grove]

I did just to see what I get to, I am about 1/5 to max 26k, so yeah no more for me

[stable cosmos]

What was 15 infected before? 75?

[pallid willow]

But 2k speeds is like a lot of training points for example, well a lot not but a lot in comparison to this crap lmao

[marble grove]

Matching is working great, don't worry

[tropic wedge]

Observation:
We hate new throwdown. Points are impossible to reach, tasks are bad, rewards are poor.

Consequence:
we didnt like throwdown before and it is now way worse

Suggested Solution:
Get rid of the new version and remove it entirely from migo rank.

better?

[wide wraith]

all the Devs care about is the Ching ching of cash

[marble grove]

Yes but you cannot train troops with research and build speeds 😂

[pallid willow]

Ah well good point 🤔

[stable cosmos]

Im going to be generous. 15 infected was previously 60. To keep up with the new INSANE milestone this should now be worth 360. It is worth 210.

[cloud ridge]

Personally I'd add more insults towards kg but sure

[stable cosmos]

If you want to increase the target 600%, you could at least increase all the tasks by the same margin..

[cloud ridge]

You only get 1 extra task a day as well

[marble grove]

You can save them for a year + for 1 upgrade, isnt this what you want?!

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!

[olive sluice]

how many free tasks do we get per day? None? So we have 7 free tasks for the week and pay 1000 biocaps for every extra task?

[cloud ridge]

Soooo, choose your tasks wisley

[stable cosmos]

If this isn't even in migo I'm not doing it. Waste of rss

[cloud ridge]

100% FunPlus, 0% Brain

[marble grove]

Scamplus, no fun here

[tame lintel]

They did change rewards some. ...not sure if worth is there though

[cloud ridge]

The fun is finding new ways I get screwed over by game 😂

[olive sluice]

I refer to them as FunMinus for a while...

[marble grove]

Make sure to get 2 mill solo points

Anyone who has saved for 3 years for a food set of heroes will revel in this update

[cloud ridge]

Only fun thing will be to watch the whales fight for eat each Throwdown 😏

[rich kayak]

I didnt think it was possible to make throw down worse….and yet

[tame lintel]

I think its 2 mill alliance points. 26k solo

[cloud ridge]

I'd prefer 2 mil solo and 26k alliance

[marble grove]

If you want #1 Cross state out of 20 alliances it's solo points too 😂 2 Mill is minimum

[cloud ridge]

That make more sense in KG world

[marble grove]

They could just remove it and people would be happy 😂

[slender merlin]

How are we supposed to get 26k points with such bs tasks? This Event was tolerable cause we were able to get full set of rewards from troop tasks only. Now it's impossible....

[tame lintel]

We shoukd all merge to 1 state. So we can just kill eachother with a bang.. and leave this game

[olive sluice]

@merry scroll STOP THIS THOWDOWN MADNESS!

[finite jacinth]

How did they manage to make throwdown even worse than before???? That takes some ammount of effort. Throwdown was the worse event in the game and they managed to make it worse!!!!!!! That's some grade A++++ codswallop

[worldly sable]

Well, already maxed thankfully 😂

[versed spruce]

You don't have to complete the entire task, just doing parts of it

[finite jacinth]

It just makes it more likely more will stop playing.

[marble grove]

It's funny how many complaints they've had within an hour... but after throwdown they will tell us how we all loved the update

[slender merlin]

Read the entire thing, that's not the point.

[olive sluice]

26k points are needed for the milestones

[marble grove]

Haven't had compensation in a few days, need a few this week

[worldly sable]

Dev Becca is delulu

[stable cosmos]

The custom tasks reset daily. But thats not an improvement when they cost so much in the first place

Yay i spent 2000 speedups. For 500 speedups. No. Gfy

[cloud ridge]

But you could still get same rubbish tasks each day

Which will probably be the case

[versed spruce]

I think the tasks are fixed each day, no randomness

[marble grove]

Yall crying when these guys are already near half way to minimums 😂

[versed spruce]

Maybe each day has different tasks, but those are predetermined

[cloud ridge]

They can have fun fighting for their glow stick

[worldly sable]

I haven’t even looked tbh but can say I’m not excited to enter the game anymore at all

[marble grove]

Wasn't 1 pack 150 points? Now 750?

[olive sluice]

p2w

[marble grove]

Yet 68 golden frags was 490 now 500?

And you cannot do any other quests if you take a personal

But you are locked to personal for the day

Also am I crazy or did they lower this from 10 per hit to 5?

[pallid willow]

Delusion from trauma can happen

[versed spruce]

It's a
thing TD hasn't started for migo yet, nobody can "supposedly" use coins the buy the tasks early. Migo stage 1, week 1 glory ranking isn't even fixed yet

[pallid willow]

For me it has always been 5 if don’t kill it xD

[thorny hornet]

it was 10 i f you killed it

i just spent 1000 biocaps on a throwdown task by accident, because there are no new free tasks anymore and i was on autopilot.

[versed spruce]

5 for non-kills, 10 for the kill

[pallid willow]

Me too😂😂

Hell yea im not the only one who fell on that 🙃

[thorny hornet]

morons unite!

[tame lintel]

The sad part is.. ive played this game for almost 4 years...and they are forcing us out with all this crud

[pallid willow]

I prefer them to just straight shut down the server one day, i still have hope to wake up to that wonderful moment

[white turret]

Maybe if we all quit we will feel better about it

[vagrant parrot]

devs must have lost their mind

[tame lintel]

Like. Sure. Have an unreachable ceiling. But they really gotta stop taking from the enjoyment of the game for $$$$

[vagrant parrot]

they ask too much points as it is. and then each new task cost 1k biocaps

crazy

[pallid willow]

I want certain people to be miserable after losing this game😂

[vagrant parrot]

it's so clear that company is so focused only milking money

nothings else

quitting is not a bad choice.

😂

but we play anyway for the people and friendship. that;s why they continue all this stupid things

[cloud ridge]

Is there a throwdown task to quit the game?

[untold stag]

On a good week, my alliance averaged ~350k points, and that was with the troop tasks. With those gone, I will be surprised if we even clear 100k.

[thorny hornet]

you can always count on them to fix what isn't broken in their quest to ignore that which needs fixing

[untold stag]

To be fair, the TD rewards weren't exactly stellar, but they paired nicely with Journey to Glory.

[thorny hornet]

i used to look forward to throwdown, just for the biocap rewards. now it is down to 1700 biocaps, and i burned 1k biocaps on an extra task without thinking

[pine pendant]

Same dishonest change with SOTF applied to AT with same goal : empty our backpack for worthless rewards hoping to milk more... @merry scroll please tell your friends that this will not work except for killing the game

[untold stag]

I'll spend the 25k bios on an in-game escort before I spend it on that task!

[dense nimbus]

I would never play another funplus's game after this one.

No more.

[untold stag]

I'm staying for the people I've met and enjoy playing the game. Otherwise, I would be gone already.

[distant gull]

God I hate Throwdown now

[kindred tangle]

Seriously, the Devs have screwed this one up a) on purpose, and b) in a manner that makes NO ONE HAPPY. WHY?

[wraith vapor]

OK whose idea was this new throwdown, can I get an address please. Thanks

[kindred tangle]

I went F2P after they made my 1300 Martha Vouchers worthless with the Completion system and told me they wouldn't compensate me but that I could use them next Martha's Voucher event. Which can't happen because it's 2 generations ago now.

[distant gull]

In PTR nothing change for reward but in Live is 💀 now changed reward too

[stray acorn]

believe me or not but some people play PTR as their main live account and also spending there like it's a real server

[wraith vapor]

30 r 500

[digital glacier]

Ngl . They did make some improvements to throwdown.
Wish there was a "cheaper". Special though. Like training troops 😅

[wraith vapor]

Yeah agreed, but there are plenty who will do it and spend a fortune an nothing will change

[wraith vapor]

Their is a training troop one

[thorny hornet]

the specials require using insane amounts of resources

[wraith vapor]

They change everyday, from ptr I saw it's like 4200 points for custom troops task

[thorny hornet]

and the specials are the only hope of possibly scoring the 26k solo points needed to max the milestone rewards. it is nuts

[empty plaza]

The new throw down is absolutely trash impossible to get max points unless your a huge spender

[digital glacier]

Not for me, not today there isn't.

[wraith vapor]

@digital glacier

[digital glacier]

I know there is, but not today for me. So. Basically, it's...... Luck at 0utc 🤣

Instead of, luck every 5 minutes, 🤣

[chrome cliff]

Thank you for destroying Throwdown as well. Geez, almost impossible to get some rewards now. Throwdown is also not unlocked for MIGO. Common ... amateurs.

[wraith vapor]

I think it's aligned with journey to glory and point race for thanksgiving , I might be wrong but that's what it looks like

[digital glacier]

Wasn't the 7500 speedups specific task like 450 points?

[wraith vapor]

Yes

[digital glacier]

Same score
1/3 the items.

[untold stag]

We could put some trained monkeys in the devs place. By dumb luck they might do better.

[digital glacier]

Lots more for lots less

[wraith vapor]

Yeah I know right, it's not gonna happen. We have barely 50 who participate in throwdown. So we need 40k which is not gonna happen

[digital glacier]

Devs smoke crack if the value is 26k.

I can see 15k with this.

But there was no need to change to behind with.

[wraith vapor]

Yeah points ar much higher first r less parts

[chrome cliff]

True, but you'll need much much much more points to get some rewards.

[wraith vapor]

420 points for 500 biocaps bundle

But u need 10 times the points for all rewards and that's only if u reach 2million as an alliance

[untold stag]

The 860/516/430 troop tasks were the bread and butter for anyone scoring high w/o using a lot of resources.

[tidal apex]

Those were the only tasks I was doing every throwdown. Just "free" rewards because troops were being trained anyway

[digital glacier]

Devs must think, because they give us better items the score must increase 🤣

But giving better items comes with them releasing better things to upgrade 🤣

[distant gull]

This one is better

[wraith vapor]

Another problem is the limit now on the number of tasks. You do 8 tasks with 500 points that's still 4k

[edgy basin]

You need 2 million points for what exactly

[distant gull]

Event Hated this week

1. Alliance Throwdown
2. ☆Star Ascension☆
3. Hidden Treasures (inb4 if they come again I will burn Hidden Treasures)

[digital glacier]

The 4200 troop train score is like 5 of those max gold fists...

Let's just hope I get
..

Like 10 of them training ones 🤣

[wraith vapor]

2 million points as an alliance to get all the milestone crates in throwdown

[tidal apex]

Is 7 tasks limit daily or for whole event? If you need to pay bio for every additional task then good luck, it will cost more than rewards are worth because each next task is propably more costly 🤣

[wraith vapor]

I think it's gonna be 8 per day but that's my guess. Might be bloody 2 😂

[digital glacier]

Contender rank goes to 18200 😳

[untold stag]

In the old event, you had to buy everything beyond 7 (I think?) although the first one each day was free. I have no clue how this one will go.

[digital glacier]

1.4m alliance / 18.2k solo

[thorny hornet]

if 7 is the max without buying, we would need to average a bit more than 3700 points per task to get to 26k

[tidal apex]

They are delusional thinking this game have only full 100 active players alliances

[wraith vapor]

Yeah good luck guys 😂😂

[wraith vapor]

We were lucky if 50 do basic 2500 so no way in hell that's achievable

[thorny hornet]

if you want to spend 7k biocaps to get 7 extra tasks... when milestone rewards give you 1700 biocaps max... then it lowers down to just under 1900 points/task needed. people who choose this path are bad at math

[tidal apex]

Old throwdown even 40-50 people alliance with not all of then active could reach max milestones. Here on the other hand...

[tidal apex]

I wonder if it is constant 1k bio per task or maybe keep raising, first extra task 1k, second 2k, third 4k :p

[thorny hornet]

already half of the people who actually used to do throwdown, which was about 60% of the alliance, will not do throwdown at all, making most of the milestone rewards just about impossible to get

[untold stag]

One other interesting note. You need to reach L7 in your alliance to get the plasma rewards for your alliance ranking. For us, that is 595k points. Again, even less rewards.

[cobalt canyon]

Rewards are about 15x too low for the amount of stuff they need you to burn through to get them

[wraith vapor]

Will be an interesting reset 😂

[tidal apex]

Only need 6500 plasma to reach last goal, izi 🤣

Everyone have that much in a week or so, right?

[untold stag]

Come on pocket warrior! Show us your stuff!😆

[tidal apex]

Because after that you will need same or more for new sotf :p

[tidal apex]

I dont even have that much and been saving for months :p

[untold stag]

Just spend your food budget on the game. You don't need to eat! At least, that is what SoS thinks.

[tidal apex]

I cant wait to see christmas event, looking at throwdown changes and where this is going christmas "event" will need 20k $ :p

[thorny hornet]

don't worry! if you use those 6500 plasmas, you will get back... checks notes... 21 plasmas from the milestone rewards. Now that is math that makes sense!

[tidal apex]

Dont forget we will also get staggering amount of behemoth frags, like 5 :p

When we need few thousands

🤣

[digital glacier]

2,000,000 (alliance max level) ÷ 26,000 (points per player) = 77 players.

Umm. Wtf. 😳

Contender rank
1,400,000 ÷ 18,200 = 77 players
😳 WTF.

[tidal apex]

Also seeing how now throwdown have solo cross state ranking I have this nagging feeling that migo will be also related to ranking, not only small solo point goal as usual

[digital glacier]

@north moss a mod might know this.... When was Behemoth MkI
Released?

Rewards got a huge improvement bit they're also like 2 years behind the time.... The value should be like 2,500 solo points per player and 100,000 alliance score to reach level 25 🤣

Rewards should be 10× increased if they expect people to play this 🤣

[wraith vapor]

This would be achievable if tasks in the custom weren't only spender oriented. I mean they ll convert 10000 plasma on day 1 as they are all maxed and have too much of it but it's not really helpful for anyone but them. So again this is aimed that those whales

[thorny hornet]

if you have a spare 155 days of speedups, i guess you can do that to score your 26k points

[north moss]

With the version 1.17.30, In States that would have been open for more than 50 weeks. Around 18th October 2022 if i'm not wrong

[wraith vapor]

So a year ago

[stable cosmos]

The custom tasks are just so bad. They'd be ok if they just captured the items you used without needing to take them as actual tasks

[wraith vapor]

Yeah like gathering, troop tasks etc

[north moss]

i can confirm the date #📌︱game_updates message

[tidal apex]

Every single time they change something it is for the worse... Need to remove all feedbacks about wanting updated fortress or intel rewards.... They will update rewards and ask us to pay 1k bio for each intel task we do 🤣

[wraith vapor]

That's the problem, I could never comprehend why changing rewards comes with changing the whole dynamics of the event. I mean it was great as it was, only thing needed was changing the rewards.

[digital glacier]

Gosh, feels soooo much longer than that. I wonder why
Oh.. The 30 events a day for a year maybe explains it 🤣🤣🤣

[wraith vapor]

I aged about 5 years in that one year for sure 😂

[tidal apex]

Idea with picking personal task you want instead of resetting them 100 times is nice. Just beyond terrible execution...

[digital glacier]

Gold badges and hero frags were given from gen 1 to gen 15 🤣
We got 2 behemoths, 2 Aircrafts, 13 plasma levels, etc etc etc.

Only rewards needed updated.

[stable cosmos]

It was awful as it was. But if we had to get this to get newer reward items I'd prefer the old one

[digital glacier]

Anyone curious how insane the migo score will be for throwdown 🙈🙈🙈

[tidal apex]

100k points and top 10 cross state

:p

[wraith vapor]

Yeah but atleast u had variety and choices when u refresh, here u have nothing except spending tasks

[thorny hornet]

custom speedup task is 7 points / 60 minutes, .11666 points per minute used. regular speedup task is 450 points/2500 minutes, .18 points per minute used. i really feel this revamped throwdown is a test for basic math fluency

[wraith vapor]

Same cuz we won't even get majority of these reward cuz we won't reach 2m points

[stable cosmos]

Migo better be. Complete 5 tasks....

Complete 5 tasks i can do ok. Giving us an equivalent target, hang on, math

[tidal apex]

Whales will be happy, they can spend 5k $ on throwdown now to win one skill thingy for tempest arms :p

[wraith vapor]

Throwdown is not featured migo, it's still alliance duel as far as I can tell from the board there unless I miss the memo 😂

[frigid vault]

Regular tasks are useless now, when each extra task over the 7 you get cost 1000 biocaps and you need 26k points for all rewards these regular tasks are a waste

[digital glacier]

Considering how mad sos math is.
I dont think they test us. I think they don't know.

Or don't care.

[stable cosmos]

46000 points

[dense lance]

it reminds me of when SOTF change first came out, yeah, and the numbers were just ludicrous

seriously, I bet nobody actually sat down with a calculator and thought about what we'd need

[wraith vapor]

I am sure they did and calculated how much money whales will spend on plasma and crystals 😂🤑

[tidal apex]

They are incapable of basic math or all they look at are top whales bacpacks. They saw those 50 players have 20k plasma, 120k h speedups sitting around and made event according to their hoarded items lul

[dense lance]

it would have only taken a few SOTFs to max out red crystal useage 🤣

[thorny hornet]

The very least they could do is let us know how many points each badge upgrade is worth

[wraith vapor]

U can also recycle them

[dense lance]

you can only recycle like 1000 a day

[stable cosmos]

Wouldn't recycle stuff for this. Eff that

[wraith vapor]

U can easily calculate that lol

[wraith vapor]

That's 10000 points for throwdown task 😂

[thorny hornet]

if they gave us the info, whch they don't

[digital glacier]

Where's the tasks that say, use 1,000 food?

For 1 point

[tidal apex]

I hope there will be troop training task tommorow and that it will be good one, not asking me to train 500k troops ...

[stable cosmos]

Place your bets now

[wraith vapor]

Badge score is same as always, I might have it somewhere

[dense lance]

waiting for McDonald's sponsored event, we get McNuggies as a resonating hero, special limited time "sauce packs" available

[digital glacier]

What was the old solo points needed for max level?

[tidal apex]

2400?

[thorny hornet]

the fact that you have to hunt for the answer means that they did not supply it to us in game for the task. i have to hope a badge task appears in the regular tasks in order to find the info

[wraith vapor]

Yeah they didn't but I m not sure if you select it does it show u or not.

[digital glacier]

2500, i looked to double confirm

[wraith vapor]

That was in ptr

It was 2500 for solo and 7500 for migo

[digital glacier]

So 2,500 to 26,000
Migo was 7500..... 🤣🤣🤣
If they throw up 75,000 at us.
I quit migo.

[tidal apex]

So 4200 points max but now we need 26k total :p yup, gonna be fun

[wraith vapor]

I won't go on points here, if u notice the regular task, they are same points as previous throwdown. So it's my assumption the points for troop task will be bumped up too

[stable cosmos]

4200 in top bracket.

Regular tasks are worth a LITTLE more than they were. However the top target is 6x previous and the points for tasks are not 6x. They're equal, or a little lower

[wraith vapor]

I would expect the max points for troop task to be around 12-15k

[digital glacier]

So.
No migo.
World events currently bugged as all can be
KOH is bugged to kingdom come
Mining mayhem is actually beginning to look a lot better than KOH at this point. And that's saying a lot.
Then there's all these other very discouraging bugs like the click through the screen your on and claims troops you weren't trying to claim just yet. Or somehow you're joining a rally and you end up in a players settlement because of the troop training speedup icon 🤣 priceless that happening during trap. and discouraging rng factors.
Like tempest gears. Etc etc etc.

What is there that's honestly left in this game that actually fun to play?

If you're not a whale. Rr isn't too much fun anymore because you're on the menu.
And island buffs and talent points help other so soo sooo much. It's getting harder and hard to burn people.

[tidal apex]

Old throwdown for me was just reseting tasks till I landed all 3 troop training ones and was doing them without speedups, just with troops that started training day earlier.

Now new throwdown wants us to use a ton of stuff to get rewards that are nothing great... If they did not touch points requirements then I would be happy but expecting 6500 plasma just to get like 20 plasma, few behemoth frags and few formation items? Nope, rewards would need to be at the very least 10x better

[digital glacier]

Even still.
That's only achieveable if you got 77 players in your alliance who get 26000 points.
Or. More points, less people..

60 dedicated players is all you used to need for sos.
60 for showdown.
60 for rr
60 for koh

Why is sos devs so bad at math they make throwdown need 77 if everyone got exactly 26000 🤣

At 60 players that's 33,334 per person 🤣

[faint flint]

Thanks funplus for giving me a good reason to no longer play Throwdown. You made the worst event in games history even worse. You need to invest so much to even pass the first solo stage let alone the last.

And all the good earners like the troop training fists have been removed. What you have to use to pass a tier just is not worth the rewards you give for passing it

[thorny hornet]

seriously, what is the logic behind removing the most popular task in the event?

[lavish heron]

Nah.. this is madness.. 10k speedups or plasma or red crystals?? Not going to happen and I’m sure 99% of players won’t do this either

[stable cosmos]

The logic is always the same. Always. Its not always good logic but the logic remains 💵 💵

[white turret]

What the heck. That’s crazy

[lavish heron]

Well even the money won’t be gotten at this point

[thorny hornet]

you don't have to use 10k, that is the max that you can use. you will get points for how many you use, but you still need to use too damn much to score points

[white turret]

I think I would feel good if I quit. I guess I just enjoy playing with friends… sigh.

[polar osprey]

Why can they never update or give instructionns, particularly for new or changed items? 0 communication on Throwdown. Don't say watch YouTube omg 🤣🤣🫰🫰

[faint flint]

Throwdown should be renamed to Devs holiday fund

[lavish heron]

That’s my point… it’s ridiculous. Even for 1000 points I have to use a lot and it’s not worth it and never will happen. To top it off, we can’t even reset it

[polar osprey]

Yeah I did some quick math and it looks terrible... But I don't know how it works either so

[faint flint]

Just avoid the event. I’m so happy they gave me a reason to do just that

[thorny hornet]

the only good thing about throwdown was that the milestones would give you a decent amount of biocaps. well... that is gone

[late crypt]

TD's new system is even more devastating. Some of our remaining leads are already thinking about leaving. What to expect from this new TD? Like forcing people to stop.

[faint flint]

Every part of this game has turned into pay to play at the lowest level up

Obviously they are not selling enough bundles these days

[polar osprey]

There is a link somewhere now that throws you you out of game to site for calculating I think

[thorny hornet]

we would only get about 60 people to actually complete any task at all in throwdown. at least half of those will not do any at all this time. there is no way we will possibly be able to unlock most of the milestones, and if we do, the milestone rewards are pathetic anyway

[pallid willow]

Yea i know, that’s exactly why 😂 i know some people who don’t deserve to enjoy such nice thing 😌 it’ll be nice if it’s taken away suddenly one day

[rotund rover]

Throwdown used to be a good way for the less bruteforcey spenders to grind their way to some rewards
New method has kinda killed that
Point thresholds are proportionally higher than before even though certain tasks are now worth more
Rewards are more useful too. Plenty of swings and roundabouts
I don't like the cross state thing, is there no respite from being reminded in every event that this is a P2W game and if you're not willing to P enough if you're not gonna get any sense of W at all

I'm gonna give it a go before I pass judgement but the vastly reduced task number (7 + 1 a day for 1K caps) looks like it'll reduce rewards in Journey from the 'clear 2 TD tasks' task

[faint flint]

Better buying packs then invest in TD now. Rewards are very poor for stages

Look at last alliance stage. One behemoth 2 chip

[magic anchor]

if you do tap on collect on custom task, it counts as 1 td task both in td and journey.

[worldly sable]

Milestones were too generous previously, we don’t deserve such luxuries 🤍

[faint flint]

Last solo stage is 2 behemoth 1 chips and a few bios

If they made all reward stages 10 times more rewards it may be worth playing, but as it is don’t waste any material on it

[late crypt]

Reducing the number of tasks means making common tasks useless. Custom tasks such as plasma, red crystal, bio battery. It even just destroys f2p, which used to save for svs or sotf.

[vagrant parrot]

How greedy the F”ing” devs can be? Everything that they do these days are completely focused on money. No respect towards the community. They already seeing that this game dying soon. And want to maximize their income

[rotund rover]

Thanks for letting me know, that makes a total mockery of the journey task. Two refines costing 10 plasma each and it's done 😂

[faint flint]

Only time Devs move fast is if they find people got something they shouldn’t have. Like the sentinel you could buy with a few skin tokens. That was taken away within hours. One of my alliance lost a lot of lethality of his stats. 150% I think it was. Took 3 weeks and many messages to support to get it back, and he has vip access

He was sending messages every day

[tiny pivot]

RIP Throwdown ⚰️ doubt many F2P will get far now and everyone will stop doing it if they can't hit the ranks and milestones and run out of tasks 🙃

[lavish heron]

Only 8 tasks… so they do expect us to use the exclusive task…. Never happening. Guess that’s all for today in throwdown for me… what a waste of an event… good thing it’s not yet counting in migo

[unreal lichen]

dear friends...what made the developers so greedy...we...they find the whales pumping huge amounts of money in search of glamour, to be special and famous.

The game was not like that...but the greed of many people to be bright, distinctive and powerful made the developers adopt this approach...

dont blame the developers at all. They are developing the game day after day....

they find someone to pay the cost of all this generously and it's over

[faint flint]

Why don’t they make it faster. Cancel all accounts that spend less than $1000 a month and throw those left onto 1 server. That seems to be their long term plan

[opal niche]

The milestones seem ridiculous especially when there is no increase in the point values of the tasks

I don’t remember us getting more than like 500k points the whole week, so how are we supposed to get 1.8 mil?

[faint flint]

The rewards at stages are just not worth the work to get to

[opal niche]

Yeah, and that too, considering the amount of points required for each tier

It would be good if it were even “twice” the previous milestone requirements

[faint flint]

I think they said milestones are 6 times the required amount

The points needed to pass milestones need to be drastically reduced

I have advised my alliance and server to boycott it. Save materials for next event

I suggest you all do the same.

[white turret]

What’s next. Intel now costs money to attack infected? To launch a rally against a fiend is 5 $🤣🤣

[opal niche]

Makes more sense just double up what we get for Journey.

[fringe shadow]

Umm…how am I supposed to do 2 throwdown tasks per day for journey when we only have 7 attempts to start and no free daily attempts? Am I supposed to spend 1k bios to buy an attempt everyday? 🤨

[magic anchor]

you have to do custom task. then claim. it will count 1 claim 1 task.

[olive sluice]

Get custom task. Do a bit of it (like converting 10 plasma to poly), claim, repeat. Each claim counts.. 😄

[olive sluice]

Here someone claimed 15 times while spending 120 days of speedups 😄

[slender sierra]

TD not open in Migo

[stable cosmos]

Good. Keep it that way. While we're at it remove most of the other events too

[tardy night]

We need an option to swipe and auto complete the day's events pronto. Right at login page.

Auction to win PvP. Highest bid wins.

[fringe shadow]

OOoh okay, scared me! I thought it's counted as one task for the custom from pick up until give up. 😅

[harsh jolt]

Help needed new players welcome 1266 ePO

[olive sluice]

If you don't claim in between.. it's 1

[fringe shadow]

ok, better make sure i claim them then! 🙈

[wraith vapor]

Quit now before it's too late 😂

[iron palm]

Congrats @merry scroll for the greediness from devs. Well done! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Such irrelevant milestones

[iron palm]

First milestone need to get 100k points to claim the rewards. Even the top alliance just get to 40k points

[old oasis]

Valroma go put up an advert for new players on #🤝alliance_recruitment , make sure to read up to see what others have put to give you ideas on how to word it and make sure you include languages and trap, horde, RR, koth timetables as well to get active members in the right timezones

Zaza there is a bug report about AT not registering on migo please go and upvote it #🐞︱bug-reporting message

[tardy night]

In this discord, search for terms like funplus, greed, Devs, p2w, f2p

Then see what you think

[fallow storm]

To be honest I am so happy with new throwdown system,I wanted to thank dev personally. Because Throwdown was an annoying event and I decided to give up this event..
I never see even in my dreams get 24000k solo points and my alliance reach 1.8 million points for milestone.
Thank you SOS❤️

[rocky otter]

23k points 🤡

[tardy night]

Peeps are seeing the failure the event is, and still trying to achieve a milestone instead of dropping it like the pile of crap it is. Then we wonder why f+ persists.

[frail path]

Its time to cut the spendings guys 😊

I've never seen a game where you need to pay this much money not to be STRONG but just to be RELEVANT in the game and participate in events to have fun like all other people want.

[forest kiln]

Why, just why in old states this task here?!

And where the hell top up tasks?

[sullen monolith]

This is uncalled for....10k plasma... And I was so sleepy when I picked this task

[sleek gust]

another spoil event from dev...never become clever still stupid until now...

[forest kiln]

You spend what you can, give up and it will be caunted as finished task

Just dont forget claim points

But 7 tasks and 1000 bios for additional is ridiculous

[forest kiln]

It makes meaningless to take tasks in general pool...

[sullen monolith]

Some of us are maxed... They need to consult before... Older states have maxed gear, both chief and hero

[frail path]

They dont care they are just milking people

There is no point in sharing feedbacks and asking for stuff to be adjusted

It will go through revenue evaluations and the decision will be brought solely by the profit margins they calculate

[forest kiln]

Ah, and there is only 1 task can be purchased daily 🙈 So, general pool can be excluded from event... Who was that "genious" who came up with that idea 🤣

[frail path]

The genious probably never played this game before

[torpid grotto]

Alliance Throwdown 👎🤣

[torpid grotto]

I had pretty much the same

[steel musk]

is it me only or new throwdown so hard to complete it until lvl 20.. ( to get limit points)

almost impossible 👀

[torpid gazelle]

So many things are wrong with new throwdown, and new week of migo.

[torpid grotto]

Throwdown doesn't need an update

[zealous plover]

Just short down the game

[steel musk]

looks Devs trying to push f2p to spend 🤣

rewards in throwdown not that great tho.. I just will skip it

fixed

[torpid grotto]

RIP Throwdown

[torpid gazelle]

Honestly that’s what we should probably do. Maybe they will switch it back if we all quit doing it.

[steel musk]

there always " skip"

[forest kiln]

Yes.. New layout is ok, except tasks limit 1 per day with 1K bios and milestone... 26K points is too extrime. Not long ago we had MIGO tasks for Throwdow 13K points? And there were a lot of complains. And look like developers have memory of guppy fish to remember about this

[steel musk]

I forgot Migo... another thing to skip

how we get 26k points?

[tepid rivet]

On PTR there was troop task that was finished quiet easily. We didn't have plasma and crystals and such, but we had all the same tasks every day. I can only hope that on live TD the tasks refresh to other tasks daily

[steel musk]

limit 4200 for this task.. it won't even complete half throwdown

[tepid rivet]

It was rookie tier

We can't level up there lol

[steel musk]

there no ptr.. live states are test states now

so they test throwdown here. their test is about if players will quit or not.. will complaint or not. will spend or not

they don't test if event work well or not... if they do that, we won't get bugs.. like koth, cc towers, etc

[thorny plume]

I have to say I HATE new throwdown

Not a single reward yet

[steel musk]

good luck 😂

[thorny plume]

I have no idea how it works and you have the use immense amounts of ressourses

What the hell are the developers smoking

[steel musk]

if your alliance did half throwdown, that's so good

[thorny plume]

And why hadges as personal tasks? We all have that completed

[steel musk]

we are top 2 in throwdown and only got lvl 1 rewards here

[thorny plume]

Like seriosly

[thorny plume]

Is insane how broken this is, dont they ever test things

[steel musk]

...

[thorny plume]

Yea makes sense

I guess when this becomes a part of migo i will stop migo aswell

So even less spending

[steel musk]

some didn't yet..
problem is points. they need reduction it.. can't get above 20k points.. 5k maybe in new throwdown 🤣

[thorny plume]

Im baffled by how far they are distanced from their playerbase

[thorny plume]

Some didnt, but in s30 im quite convinced most have, so its a tasks we dont really need in old states as personal tasks.. could change it so every used something and then just let us reprocess stuffn

And i dunno, again no developer, but this looks like a bug

Accepted 2 tasks and 45 k points ? When the personal tasks seems to have a 10k point limit ?

And theres the guy whos accepted 2 tasks and some 11 🤓

Does he like pick up extra work between the tasks or something or get overtime ? How does that work

8 tasks seems to be the limit

[red marsh]

those are the number of times the points were redeemed

[mossy steppe]

why they always need to fu.. something up. the aliance throwdown is horrible

[thorny plume]

Ah but still doesnt work with the 10k limit does it ? So you can reedem 10 knpoints each time

[clever blaze]

Where are the mods backing up SoS? Isn’t it your job to placate the player base so the devs can keep cash grabbing?

[thorny plume]

That is ALOT of plasma

So theese guys are using 50 k plasma for throwdown. They are the problem then 😂

[clever blaze]

People are clueing onto things come on mods we need lies and smokescreens to help stamp this one out

[red marsh]

yes that also means he got points 11x from those 2 tasks which were prolly plasma and speedup tasks

[thorny plume]

Or it could be badges, shows even how much more out balance that particular task is

[red marsh]

yes badges too

[cosmic gate]

Max players can’t even spend 10k plasma. Poly plasma conversions max out. You would have to recycle or make blue crystals for nothing

[thorny plume]

True, or red crystals.. but they dont seem to give as much

[red marsh]

no, this limits someone who spends his way into winning td since we are all equal on the number of chances now

[thorny plume]

And im guessing most players have around 1000-2000

[thorny plume]

Not at all, when some can make badges we arent equal

[cosmic gate]

Sometimes it feels like new events and changes to the game are done by an elementary student as a school project

[clever blaze]

Yep huge disconnect between shareholders and developers

[thorny plume]

Some guys in the developer team seems to be suffering from the 50 chromosones issues, and whoever that is apparantly has to much of a say

[mossy steppe]

I would pray for players to unite and stop playing this game so the creator of this game get slap in their face

[clever blaze]

They’re not even smart with making money, so many missed long term opportunities but they go for immediate cash flow.

[thorny plume]

Most of us cant do that either

[cosmic gate]

This is actually counter to money making cause there’s no $100 bundle missions anymore

[thorny plume]

Didnt even know you could convert to green

[cosmic gate]

It makes no sense

[torpid gazelle]

Another problem is 26k rewards can only be achieved if alliance points hits 2 mil if I counted zeros correctly. I don’t think my alliance has been much over 1 mil for alliance points.

[red marsh]

its the crates you get from intel and svs store

[cosmic gate]

I use to play Throwdown religiously. Now I think I’ll sit it out. Do my journey to glory missions and get off the game

[ebon linden]

Hey guys, let us know what you think of the new throwdown by upvoting the feedbacks in the #📋︱feedback-reporting . You may also post your own feedback using the correct format. Thank you 🙏

[cosmic gate]

I have NEVER seen a feedback report be accommodated or addressed. Never

[clever blaze]

Read the room 🤣

[clever blaze]

We don’t want to do free labour for you. Stop supporting a criminal company

[ebon linden]

Oi! I’m a mod not the dev

[ebon linden]

Exactly! I saw your feedback post btw

[sullen monolith]

Why is this still locked?

[clever blaze]

I will be respectful to you because you’re nice 🤣😘

[clever blaze]

Ah just looked and saw that was yours above mine, nice work 😇

[storm solstice]

max amount of personal task today are way more than 10k points. That is the limit of items you can use per tasks.
10k hours of speed ups = 70.000 points
10k plasma = 40k points...

[clever blaze]

As with everyone here we just want to give the game hell 🤷 tired and frustrated and absolutely ZERO care from devs as you are well aware of

[storm solstice]

That is the max amount of points you can do for those taks and limit of items that can be used.

[ebon linden]

Oh I did not noticed this is respectful But I’ll upvote of send feedback than just randomly rant ☺️

[ebon linden]

Yea for someone you just accused of things 😏 it’s good right?☺️

[thorny plume]

Oh I see. Thanks for wisdom man!

Still crappy 😅 but could always be worse, soon they have transfer tickets in their personal tasks

Use 200 transfer tickets for 4000 points or something completely out of touch

[tardy night]

Why would anyone use 10k plasma today though.

[torpid gazelle]

Not sure who has 10k plasma, but plasma is a task for journey of glory event today. I sadly jumped to soon and now find myself 1k plasma down. New throwdown sucks the life and fun out of the game.

[cosmic gate]

Tomorrow: “Alliance Throwdown has been cancelled due to lack of participation. Please accept 0 skin tickets as compensation”

[torpid gazelle]

Or compensation of purple frags and resource crates.

[rocky otter]

People who do this may have mental problems

[storm solstice]

Or just an amount of money that they do not have to care about it and can burn it for such.

[lavish heron]

Now there is cross state rewards in alliance throwdown?? This is a piece of garbage

[stable cosmos]

I don't care that its still locked. When throwdown is as horrendous as this it can stay locked.

[lavish heron]

They sleep and wake up with useless ideas everyday…

Someone needs to check what these guys smoke cause they don’t come up with these sober

[stable cosmos]

Would prefer migo was just solo tasks anyway. No alliance based ones at all

[lavish heron]

It should just stay locked

[torpid grotto]

I'm from the Netherlands and I would like to know the same thing

[thorny plume]

Im guessing its the good stuff

[wide wraith]

i guess one good thing came out of the change to Thowdown, its made it easier to ignore

[drifting spear]

This new Throwdown is a big kick between the legs! Someone from FP needs to take a long walk off a short plank if they think that is “slowing down!” Seriously, who can achieve any of the new shiny rewards? Disgusting behaviour 😡

[marble willow]

Actually when you look at it the rewards aren’t that shiny, bio caps rewards in particular have been massively nerfed

[loud marlin]

I normally do not join discord servers like this, but you guys keep ###### up the game, don't touch #### like AT. Greedy #####.

Will leave the server again.

[tepid rivet]

Stay and join our ranting movement anno 2020

[sick ledge]

Even TD they ruin it gg stupid devs

[thorny plume]

Had censor a word

Your discord server is quite dumb

No way im typing that twice, let us change sentence instead

[mortal fossil]

WTF did they do to Throwdown??? It is literally 💩 now!!!

[wide wraith]

it always was 💩 but somehow, they made it even worse

[solid rivet]

They had to activate the "slow mode" in #🐞︱bug-reporting due to the massive reports in there. This game has more bugs than good feautures

[wide wraith]

if only they activated slowdown on the bugs, opps i mean so called features

[mortal fossil]

At least we got around 10k bios from it now way less

[acoustic hound]

I always barely managed to get 5000-7500 points and now they expect me to get 250k for all rewards? 🤔

Tf did they use this time...

[solid rivet]

They dont want people to save stuff for svs prep so they will need to spend more money to win that

Those devs are bad azz

[wide wraith]

i am only doing what i normally would, if that means nothing in TD then so be it

[sick ledge]

They want to make every event for p2w and make others quit that all

[marble grove]

Don't forget your FOMO bundles, when they bring general resonate frags later so you can upgrade Chris anyway

Which they only took out of shop once resident evil cross over started so capcom didn't see

[wide wraith]

Chris is like a CM, a total waste of time, who does nothing

[rocky otter]

People was complaining for 8800 points and they made 23k points. This indifference is on a whole different level 🤡

And People still spending for this game

[sick ledge]

And like always lol no one will Listen to players or any feedback

[wide wraith]

most of the time, the paid staff cant be bothered to even be here to listen to feedback

[steel musk]

I bet they even don't listen lol

[wide wraith]

maybe its the wrong language for them

[raw breach]

Hurray we got to milestone 1, and got 7 plasmas for 100k aliance points. 19 more to go, such an amazing event. People did TD only for migo, who in right mind will go for 26k points😆

[sick ledge]

🤣

[steel musk]

Devs team think 7 plasma is too much

[sick ledge]

Ofc they wanted to be like 1 lol

[steel musk]

i won't be surprised if they made it half 1 plasma

[wide wraith]

they must be after that award for companies who scam their customers the most again

[steel musk]

CS are useless here.. somtimes i think bots answer us 👀

[lime laurel]

10000k plasma ...really????

[steel musk]

first day everyone have 8 tasks at least.. what about tomorrow could buy 1 task only and it cost 1k bio

[steel musk]

click on it there option to calm points

[rocky otter]

They are giving 3 COH every 2 weeks. No one say I can’t max gears beadgets anymore 🤡

[steel musk]

3 COH?

[lime laurel]

I did..this is ridiculous

[steel musk]

can't complete it.. I just used some plasma and got some points then gave up the task..

[lime laurel]

Who's bright idea was this lol

[rocky otter]

If you can make these points 😂

[steel musk]

I used all plasma and got 1k points only.. almost got there 😂

[shy leaf]

Can i make feedback to fired for anyone who has idea for new throwdown system? 🤔

[rocky otter]

Yes same 😂

[warped ruin]

migo will be 78k points

[rocky otter]

Damnnn you got 7 plasma for freee? Lucky boiii

[steel musk]

and 1 poly

too much

[hardy cargo]

It should be a poly plasma crate with 0,05% odds of getting one poly plasma. Noob devs. 😛

[steel musk]

Throwdown was useless and they make it worse ... remarkable development

[drifting spear]

I can’t wait for Beccas next fireside chat where she tells us how much great feedback there was about Throwdown. No wonder energy prices are so high when they do so much gaslighting here.

[charred swift]

Feedback to Devs - get rid of throwdown, useless event
Dev solution - make it more expensive and a worse player experience

[tiny pivot]

Are the Devs any good at maths??? I'm guessing no...

7 tasks + 1 extra per day = 13 tasks total.

You need 26,000 points to unlock all solo rewards..

That means EVERY SINGLE TASK you do needs to get you at least 2000 points...

So all of the normal tasks are completely pointless

[stable cosmos]

The devs are not good at maths. In fact i don't think anyone has ever claimed they are.

[steel musk]

I think they failed a high school exam in mathematics.

[stable cosmos]

To make this ok. Change nothing but the solo and alliance targets. Put those back where they were. Then it'll go back to being as bad as it used to be

Or remove it. When a state unlocks plasma 1 throwdown can go away

[steel musk]

they need reduction target points.. above 20k is too much..

5k maybe

[stable cosmos]

4200 was too much. But if i have to pick between 4200 and 26k I'll take the 4200

[wide wraith]

they just need to scrap it altogether

[stable cosmos]

They only scrap GOOD stuff

Effortless progress,where are you. I put up the missing event posters and everything

[wide wraith]

there is good stuff? where I must have blinked and missed it

[forest kiln]

Idea with special tasks is good, I don't need to sit and refresh tasks constantly to spend my 560 plasma for Journey to Glory for example. But all good finishing there 🤣 Why 1 task per day to purchase? Why Cristal splinters? And how it connected with Journey to Glory? Milestone and Alliance's targes were taken from sky ... 2 mln for Alliance in Champion means all 100 players need to do 20K each ? Or 77 players do 26K points... I dont see this with current mechanic

And scary part... we dont see Alliance Throwdown target in MIGO yet... I'm assume this is when everything explode 🤣

[stable cosmos]

I just want the original targets back as we know they'll never change anything else. Targets might be possible as they did that with the new 💩 💩 sotf

[iron palm]

So, how is this encouraging players?

I meant with what happened on td

[wide wraith]

encouraging players to at best ignore the event, or leave the game totally

[stable cosmos]

Theres ascension materials for first place. Spend up large for them...

[raw breach]

200k is 14 plasmas😏cannot wait to get double.lucky

[torpid gazelle]

Even if you unlock solo. At least for champion level your alliance still needs to hit 2 million points to unlock all rewards.

[stable cosmos]

Anyone spending the amount needed to win a single tempest arms ascension thing is certifiably insane. Just wait for bundles. The $20k you spend to get 1 isn't worth it

[mighty gorge]

Lead Developer: How can we make Throwdown more interesting, more exciting. We added it to Migo and it didn't work, everyone complained, so what can we do?

Developer Team: Well, we could come up with some random badly thought out ideas; it will be "out of the box" thinking, with a high likelihood that it will make it worse, and people will hate it even more than they do now, we will also make it so none of the numbers add up, but its OK no-one will notice. The good news is we can monetize it more.

Lead Developer: I like it!, Do whatever you want

Community Manager: Is it breakfast time yet

[stable cosmos]

Actually... rank one is butt. Would prefer 2 unless its 100 fragments for 1 ascension thing

If its 10 per whatsit, rank 2 is better value

[iron palm]

I really don't get it. How a company/game that is widely known, profit with millions dollar still effed up whenever new events is introduced. How problematic are their management? Are this company run by bunch of inexperienced kids?

[mighty gorge]

The answer to that is yes. Andy Zhong is a glorified developer, playing at CEO. It happens more than you would think, airs of egotism, fed by hoards of people telling them how great they are, when in reality, in a wider landscape they amount to nothing and couldn't make a good decision if their life depended on it

[tidal apex]

They never bother doing basic math, like checking how many materials reaching TD goals now require or how are alliances supposed to reach milestones when alliances with 100 active people are a rarity...

Now look at another thing, they did crap to throwdown so it is good that it is not counted in migo but look at the other side. How are we supposed to reach new migo "badge" with leveling 100 migo perks? There propably is not enough points for that even if you place 1st in all events across migo 🤣

[thorny plume]

Just taking note that the developers could also perhaps stop hiding after doing things like this

[tidal apex]

Nothing will ever get better tho and we players are part of the problem... They did such crap but I open cross state TD leaderboard and there are still people raking in 50k points already... No matter what crap they do some people just keep on spending horrible amounts anyway

[thorny plume]

Maybe if they did something major gamechanges they could perhaps have some discussion or answer community about things.. instead of just hiding @merry scroll

Like seriusly why are you even here ? You never reply to critical stuff or take any form of constructive feedback, its not hard to see that players that pay for this game is getting fed up.
You pop in now and then for some happy time, but never stay for the critique. You guys remind me of the Norwegian primeminister

[tidal apex]

Devs see this and are like:

New throwdown works great! Majority of players complain but we got 1000 of our biggest customers to use up materials. Now they will need to spend again for svs and sotf.

[marble grove]

Didn't want to give 30 and 15?

[thorny plume]

We arent the problem, theese idiots doing 50k are. They dont deserve to keep their ressourses

[tawdry elbow]

PLS return the old ATD. Reduce points for ranks. It is unrealistic to do this even for small alliances in small ranks
OMG devs what are u doing

[thorny plume]

And tbh the ranking 1 price is terrible. You can get a orange daldo just grinding the new event with AirDrop on weekly basis

[unreal lichen]

This change is so terrible lol

We did over 1m before the change but to get the same points

Is just stupidly expensive now

[uncut axle]

£€$¥…. It’s the only language the developers understand. 😔

[marble grove]

I wonder what they changed in alliance duel to f up that event too

[mighty gorge]

Its the fact again that its just another change no-one knew about, didn't need or want, isn't documented, hasn't been through PTR and is the complete wrong subject of their focus.

And where are the CM's...Oh look, NOWHERE

[marble grove]

F£$€ the devs, do they understand now?

[raw breach]

Ok so they removed TD from migo

[marble grove]

Problem? Just remove it ... now no problem

[iron palm]

Yup. That's why I really wonder how problematic this company/game management. Plus, the fact that they don't learn from their mistakes when they launched new sotf format.

[violet garden]

Are they serious with throwdown, how are we supposed to reach those goals? Did they even test if it is even close to be doable?

[wide wraith]

dont be silly, they done test anything

[violet garden]

😂

[iron palm]

don't or done? 🤔

[violet garden]

Why should they, we are playing testers

[wide wraith]

dont

[iron palm]

🤣

[raw breach]

Point is f that event. There is 0 value of it now. So if we stop doing it. They will come in 1 week with sorry message we go back.

[mighty gorge]

They should just get rid of TD altogether as has been fed back many many times, but now they just made it worse. Not sure how you can make an already tedious event worse, but they managed it lol

[jovial falcon]

<@&628563208164081690>s can you direct us, the players, to the exact feedback that suggested TD needs to be changed, discussed about, voted on, and replied to by the devs please. Thanks

[raw breach]

There was none. Devs woke up one morning and came with idea how to be even more greedy

[jovial falcon]

I know, I was being sarcastic. It’s just more proof that this discord is redundant and serves zero value, especially the feedback section

[thorny plume]

I have a question regarding somethibg other then the events wich you keep breaking. Does this mean that we for certain wont get any more Chris shards ever after tomorrow, so we are beeing forced to spend more if we want to further completion ?

Or whenever December first is

So you basicly pulled a Joker on us

[iron palm]

I've said before here, n gonna said it again. Just stop spending and play as f2p.

[versed spruce]

This same Email was already sent to the players ~10 days ago, basically 14 days before Dec 1st. It's just another reminder shortly before the end of collab stage 1.

[violet garden]

Seems to be only solution at this point. Their bad, i am willing to spend quite an amount on hobbies

[iron palm]

Yes. Tbh, I don't mind spending some amount if there aren't too many bugs and greediness shown in the game.

[vernal moss]

Daryl, joker, chris, ||leon, eda|| would be the same. They’re all collabs and licensing expires. But after a while the “general” resonating fragments were released. I’m sure they’ll re-release them again for the upgrades in future. My guess it’s been removed for the time being since marketing team strategising players to purchase the bundles instead of using the long saved up resonating gen fragments.

[violet garden]

It is getting worse and worse

[violet garden]

They could have disabled it for chris only and not remove it from store

[vernal moss]

It might be from their internal focus group that’s unrelated to here. Which is sad, I do recall almost everyone didn’t enjoy TD what so ever and we wanted it removed essentially.
Hopefully there’s enough backlash for it to be reverted. It’s most definitely insane how much it requires for even less scraps than before.

[violet garden]

There are so many ways to fo things and they seem choose the option that screws up players most.

[vernal moss]

It would give players more time to accumulate more fragments, it benefits us too much 🙈 however after the entire collab it can only be seen when it arrives as I’m sure we won’t get an answer about them.

[violet garden]

Still waiting for action on the gen 12 to gen 16 jump matter. We are in massive disadvantage in multiple events. And so far the attitude is take it or leave it.

[mighty gorge]

What I see is people asking for greater more recent reward items, but what happens is rather than just actually adding new reward items, they seem to think they need to change the entire format of events to make them more difficult.

It could have been avoided completely today, had all they done was just add in the rank/score rewards to the existing regime for obtaining them

And also, they are behind the curve. I dont' need crystal as example (I get a lot still do), but doing all those points to get 3 crystal is utterly pointless for me

[violet garden]

We get only 10 every few weeks. 1 resonation needs at least 160. And with heroes like olly, they are not much worth without upgrading skills. A free to play will save up half a year at least for 1 resonation hero with skills on level 1

[vernal moss]

This is happened before and the explanation after was there would be events to help your states get the materials needs much easier and faster. However I recall highly negative feedback at how long it took to arrive and how much it didn’t really help.

Hopefully it’s improved and it will be implemented again regarding the generation jumps

[violet garden]

There is nothing to help us though

[thorny plume]

And Wolfie olly combo is already weaker then Chris/Nikola with just 1 step up in top skill
Even with a stronger Wolfie then a Nikola

[violet garden]

We need it now or people will quit

[thorny plume]

So saving olly shards at this point is kind of silly

[vernal moss]

Correct, there’s also demands of less events but more acceptable quantities in rewards. But we’re still here fighting for the player base ourselves for these changes too.
The cross state format I can see being a thing for more events in the future as it’s a new loophole for marketing. I’m strongly against it but I can definitely see it coming.
With all these ideas they’re great, but have you considered putting up in #📋︱feedback-reporting by chance?

[iron palm]

Guys, go to bug discussion. There is ss that the alliance already made 400k points in td

[vernal moss]

I haven’t heard anything being considered yet for this generation gap unfortunately, I was explaining what happened with the last one that happened to a set of states so you have an understanding of what is possible to happen if it is considered this time round. Which it should be considered to be released before the gap is even put in live game.

[violet garden]

The feedback about gen 12->16 was posted on feedback as soon as we saw it. Nothing so far, beside some empty and halftrue words from saberlot.

[mighty gorge]

These type of changes are also anti-small alliance or actually conflict with the fact that many older states struggle given how dead they are. I'm lucky to be in a top alliance, but many are not and would never achieve the required points.

[violet garden]

He said, we won't have old states in events in this migo. But the post he replied to literally was saying SR is ruined for us because we have older states there

[vernal moss]

Saber does try it is a fact but he’s under employment, contract and doesn’t have final say which is sad because he does really want to help. We can keep pushing for your issue and pressuring the game team to push out the help that’s required for your state pool

[vernal moss]

Without a doubt your completely right. For the game being a game it’s turning into a marketing, training programme it seems.

Being cross state ranking too will definitely cause problems for players in lower alliances if they’re ranking high and fighting against a top alliance in their own state. Seen it before many times of threats burning their hqs.

[violet garden]

Why isn't he more often he, if he really wants to help? It took him 4 days to even react to any post to that matter.

[mighty gorge]

He disappeared from here for 12 days consecutively at one point, and only in that time appeared, posted completely unhelpful comments and went again.

[vernal moss]

In the office there’s a lot to do with face to face meetings and bringing what we compile to the table. There’s definitely a lot to compress

[mighty gorge]

I'm sorry, I dont' accept this. I work in IT and have along and varied history in delivery, his ENTIRE role/job is about managing community relationships. There needs to be balance

[violet garden]

Then there is need for more CM, so they can see what their player base is struggling with and how high frustration is

With any day they don't someone will frustratedly stop paying or even playing

[vernal moss]

Under the role of community manager you’re right, we should realistically have more in fairness.

[mighty gorge]

I recognise he's just one person, and I think I even said in my feedback there should be more. But even as one person he needs to touch base more often. Things like these discussions today should not go unmanaged.

[vernal moss]

We have lovely mods who do this and provide as much as they can in their own time in the day and it’s definitely taxing. Hand up to those who do, we also share the same frustration as the players regardless of being a moderator.

I assure you we pressure and push for the changes as much as our power grants us but I’ve mentioned before game team has final say which is upsetting in many ways.

[violet garden]

They are right now in a devils spiral, because they are ignoring the players. They need more and more features and payed events to compensate all those leaving.

[mighty gorge]

I sit here, with my work laptop, writing designs, responding to emails, attending meetings. I'm here right now doing that because I'm able to have discord open as I do so on my phone and next to me on my laptop. Its not beyond the wit of man, nor unreasonable to expect someone that does the actual job to do the same.

[tidal apex]

I noticed bad thing about throwdown guys....

They are working on it it seems. Few hours ago additional task was 1k bio, now first few additional tasks were "free" to buy so it looks like they are working on some changes.

Why is it bad? Because it means they will be only changing small detail of event while it is its most important parts that are terrible... Letting me do few more of gather rss or do explorer challenges tasks is not putting me much closer to 26k points goal....

[vernal moss]

Oh absolutely, I’m sure there’s many watching our topic and some even might be compiling the important parts and making notes to give to management, even if some aren’t typing they will be looking

[violet garden]

I don't see much improvement, because those, who are actually employed and can do changed don't seem to care. MODs can do only so much

[vernal moss]

Which is a decline either way, sometimes it’s wise to just take a hit in monetisation and sit in a healthy relationship with the players. Since then it will rise in profit over time without issues. The spike rushes only last so long

[cloud ridge]

Why you got free and I had to spend 1k bios?

[vernal moss]

Hi shirosei, the new TD format is heavily unsatisfying for pretty much every player. You have good points and it would be a great idea to post up in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[tiny pivot]

It just changed, it did say only 1 attempt for 1K bio before

[cloud ridge]

Just get rid of throwdown, that's the only way to make everyone happy and actually reduce the amount of chores we have to do.

[vernal moss]

It can seem that way absolutely. We have to push as a community because end of the day it’s us who are giving them the money and the reputation.

[cloud ridge]

Annoying, doubtful I'll get those back either...

[violet garden]

Exactly and when will they notice? When most payers stopped paying?
When will they close the gap? It is massive

[vernal moss]

TD has been requested to be removed for years now, unfortunately we’re still here 🙈 but! Why not post that in #📋︱feedback-reporting to get it rolling again

[violet garden]

No it is in their interest to know what we want. We shouldn't need to spend hour with complaining here in the hope to get heard. We only want to play a game

[vernal moss]

It’s huge I agree. The gap is something that is irreversible since older features that grant the stats are harder to obtain and newer features becoming more expensive and less quantities.

[vernal moss]

We all do, unfortunately I’m here to explain that we are pushing and trying for everyone and as much as it can sound like it’s useless we don’t have the power to change it. I’m near confident if there was just a very small team of mods who want to improve the game and they’re given power to do so it would be such a relief for the entire player base.

[violet garden]

They can rise easily the rewards and lower prices. Behemoth is the biggest issue and the TA skills are too expensive, too much luck needed and some way too powerful. 1 essence for 50-75€ is ridiculous

[vernal moss]

Yep! Overtime it will likely lower in price but that could take a long time, just like plasma.
As of right now as it’s a ridiculous game changer in the skills you get in battle it won’t change. Can definitely guarantee it.

[drifting spear]

We all accept that this is a game which has pay to play features, but over the past year the pay has grown exponentially. Nobody should be asked to spend the kind of money they expect now, and nor should those unable/unwilling to pay such figures be held back so much. If FP took the approach of the more pay at a lower rate = longer term success, instead of focusing on a handful of mega whales, then this might become a game worthy of the name.

[violet garden]

The problem lies not in people like MODs and players trying, but the unwillingness of the devs and their manager to listen to the community

[vernal moss]

The idea of the prices dropping or allowing players to have more materials in the packs for TA and behemoth would be widely admired, why not consider that in the #📋︱feedback-reporting channel?

[vernal moss]

I mentioned something close to this earlier, it’s a much more stable incline compared to the rush of the spikes and long term decline.

You do have great pints too, I think it should go into #📋︱feedback-reporting I’d love to see what support it gets

[violet garden]

I'm sure many before did. There are videos of catzilla with a big reach being mad TA at the system. What else do you need?
The problem isn't that don't people point it out.

It needs ears to listen.

[tidal apex]

It is hardly a game now. More of a social platform with huge item shop. Half of the "events" are hardly events at all, it is just highest bidder wins.

[vernal moss]

With cooperate it’s passed around by multiple people, level, layers. However you’d like to call it and most of the good idea could get lost in translation, edited changes by certain people in certain teams it’s hard. As much as a direct approach would be great so there’s no confusion like a real QA with game team.

[solid ferry]

devs removed Alliance Throwdown from MIGO tasks. Means that we get less rss to exploration project 😄 😄 😄

[vernal moss]

We see it as a good step, but I’d imagine marketing sees it as a community thing only. I can’t confirm or be certain of it but this is what I personally think.

[drifting spear]

Not the first time I’ve raised this nor the first time it’s been raised by many others. To be honest I have serious fatigue with the feedback system, and I’ve yet to see anything reasonable come of it.

[vagrant parrot]

Can someone tell me how are these optimizations?

[vernal moss]

There’s been a lot of issues with the events and players I’ve been demanding less events and more rewards for the events. To prevent destabilisation to the game servers and to our regular lives.

It’s really a win as it’s seriously unhealthy on how much we’re expected to spend on the game.

[violet garden]

How can something like people are mad if them spend 50€ and only get a crap skill can get lost?😆

[vagrant parrot]

Debuffing antidotes is optimizing?

[violet garden]

The time writing a feedback report is wasted.

[tidal apex]

It is optimising. They are making sure that biggest spender have easy 0 effort wins

And everyone else have no rewards from event

[vernal moss]

How would you go with the TD situation being placed back into migo? Would you prefer it reverted or do you have any other ideas about it? As the points for exploration project would be great!

I’d love to hear any ideas you have about it in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[fleet kestrel]

Considering where it goes, not at all

[crystal holly]

Seems like MODs have a lot of work today 🤣

[drifting spear]

I’ve had feedback in the top 10 before and lots of up votes….nothing has ever happened so I agree it seems like a mostly wasted effort.

[tidal apex]

They also forgot to mention that they lowered amount of chests with loot that show up in buildings
in event.... Small unimportant detail...

[vagrant parrot]

It doesn’t go anywhere

[solid ferry]

sounds like spenders were crying that they struggle with winning battles 😄

[vernal moss]

It’s rare we tend to get something good from it but we have in the past we just need to be together as a community to push for these

[fleet kestrel]

You’d be surprised, it’s not wasted, it reaches meetings among the game team. But, how would you know where yours landed? Just curious..

[vernal moss]

No I’d definitely see the anger in it all!
The RNG is too much for the price it’s expected from

[vagrant parrot]

Because our struggle prove that

None of our feedback are solved

[violet garden]

Not really. The strongest just needs to sit in safe house and wait. The time the antidote lasts won't change that.

[vagrant parrot]

No of the bugs are solved

[fleet kestrel]

No? You sure about that Bear?

[vagrant parrot]

But never did some thing that benifit players

[tidal apex]

But they needed to sit in there for 10 mins sometimes, now it is down to 2 mins tops :p

[vagrant parrot]

Are you playing a different game?

[violet garden]

The feedback from monkey got well over 1k upvotes and what happened?

[fleet kestrel]

Not at the rate we want it.. trust I get that. But none at all? 🤔

[vagrant parrot]

Come to your senses

[vagrant parrot]

Yes absolutely nothing

[vernal moss]

The issue regarding it I’m sure we will be compensated toward the end of the season

[fleet kestrel]

Some votes reach higher then that honestly after compilation

[drifting spear]

My point exactly. I, and others, have been asking for a weekly/monthly published form showing the feedback, whose desk it lands on and what happens to it. So far…silence. Until we see actual responses to our feedback…and please do not tell me Beccas is genuine feedback, then we will all deploy our cynicism shield

[crystal holly]

I guess at this point we need one alive dev in a cage in front of the angry crowd

[vagrant parrot]

You are the one that saying we care only about few feedbacks, rest of them can fk themselves right?

[fleet kestrel]

They are actually working on something concerning it, I am not allowed to say what

[plush sinew]

in the royal battle before, if you are small and scored a lot of antidotes, you could count on at least the 2nd place now everything has been ruined now the royal battle has become not interesting because donat now decides there

[vagrant parrot]

There are some problems that effect only small group of people but they are still problems

[tidal apex]

Only reason feedback exist is to have a place where we can grumble about bad things in the game. Its purpose was never to actually solve any issues.

[fleet kestrel]

Bear, we have that narrowed to, as some state groupings have different types of issues

[vagrant parrot]

Doesn’t look that way at all

[tidal apex]

Because if it was then there would be communication about feedback, as it is we just send it into black hole

[fleet kestrel]

Let’s not tell stories..

[vernal moss]

Players have complained a lot about the antidotes which I’m sure this is them trying to fix it. I’m yet to read the full optimisation though, sorry

[vagrant parrot]

Tempest arms feedback they recieved, but they responded with features that players didn’t like

[fleet kestrel]

Alice in wonderland had pink shoes and not red, surely everyone will believe me.

[vagrant parrot]

Throwdown sucks

Migo bus

Koth bugs

Mm bugs

Royale Spender Event now

What’s solved can you tell me?

[fleet kestrel]

Bear, we just handed a huge list to another team from the weekend which we won’t hear from them til later and or in game

[vagrant parrot]

Just state the fact that devs just want money

Nothing They do is for players

[fleet kestrel]

Devs?

Or higher?

[thorny plume]

Or ever

[violet garden]

I think it is rather, that people get better and follow same strategies. You can have luck or not.

[fleet kestrel]

Businesses want money period. Not one person out there that owns one that doesn’t.

[tidal apex]

When survival royale first started I was getting few legendary crafts from every game. Then they kept on making changes, now I am lucky if I get 1/3rd of a single craft out of a single game ...

[thorny plume]

Well maybe they should stop ruining their business because the players running away are on them and noone else

Thats given, cant blame or punish the customers because you can not run a business

[vagrant parrot]

Bruh, support sos all you want, this game dying. Devs/company want to milk money before it actually dies

Do you want to see what cs replies to me?

[thorny plume]

Or you can, but then you better find something new todo quickly because you wont have customers left

[vagrant parrot]

You will know why I am this angry?

[vernal moss]

This could be a sign that there might be better stats arriving. This is what I’d see Be sure to save up! But the issue is the rewards being given less. We can only push for it but we need support too, could you please make a post in #📋︱feedback-reporting regarding the rewards about it

[fleet kestrel]

Pig, how long have you been playing now?

[thorny plume]

Since beginning

And is prefer manbear above pig if parts of name are to be chosen 😂

[violet garden]

It is how we perceive it, because you would expect that feedback that many voice will lead to changes towards that. Yet nothing happens. They have to prove us otherwise

[fleet kestrel]

Then what you are saying you know has been said for that long correct? We are being realist here..

No problem, I’m sorry.

[tidal apex]

We all know they need to earn. Noone is negating that. Its just that they expect players to spend 1k $ a week when they would be earning even if it was reasonable 100$/month and lot more people would be willing to pay then

[thorny plume]

And look at their revenues now

[fleet kestrel]

Our team has tried different ways to maximize feedback to push what customers/players want

[vagrant parrot]

I reported the same in support ticket. The way cs responds and closes things is absolutely ridiculous

[fleet kestrel]

Oh no doubt man.. I don’t disagree

All we can do is try, keep pushing for everyone to be heard, until we can’t.. sadly..

[thorny plume]

Its not your fault, so dont take blame

[fleet kestrel]

But the reporting .. does get pushed hard..

[thorny plume]

I blame the developers and their infinite corporate greed

[fleet kestrel]

Blame the one that creates the number that needs to be reached, those below them, are like you and I.

[violet garden]

Businesses need to keep their customers happy, or those will run away. The customer you already have is the most valuable because aquiring more is hard and costs money for marketing.

[thorny plume]

Yes, corporate

[drifting spear]

As I said above I fully accept this is a business but it’s one with zero customer service, and which treats us with disdain. If they took a step back and saw beyond the greed, I think they’d have a game worth playing and more than enough money coming in. But it’s all focused on short term mega whales, which will run out at some point.

[fleet kestrel]

Report that Sunny

[thorny plume]

But they also do it wrong, i run a small business too and sometimes quantity beats high prices low volume

[fleet kestrel]

I’ll upvote it myself

[thorny plume]

Volume is where the money is. Not in pushing out bad game modes that is litterary only designed to force people to spend.

[fleet kestrel]

I don’t disagree with this. I enjoyed the game myself..

Man Bear, I buy quality.. quantity doesn’t work for me.

[thorny plume]

When selling in margins quantity is key

[vagrant parrot]

This is how customer support respond.
At 00:00 players were able to do all throwdown tasks and claim all migo tasks
At around 8 utc, after the update, players were able to claim again.
Why is it my fault that I didn’t do all throwdown tasks at midnight? How am I supposed to know that I’d be able to claim all?
Why should I have to beg for something so obvious and correct?

[fleet kestrel]

We have reported it btw, once the team alerted us to the issues

Believe Dalma did, I was still asleep 💤

[violet garden]

That is business 101 😆
It is sad if they don't know it and run a business

[thorny plume]

Problem is they have chased away the quantity of customers

[stiff ether]

So, by reducing the amount of antidotes another low blow for F2P cuz that was indeed one of the few opportunities for non spenders to win an event. Good move FP.

[vagrant parrot]

It’s not about whether you report or not. How can cs respond like that?

[violet garden]

Maybe they should go back to school?

[fleet kestrel]

Sunny, it is, but sometimes it’s nice when someone says, something different then “I hate your game”

[vagrant parrot]

Do they don’t have brains? Or they think customers are beneath them?

[fleet kestrel]

So that’s another thing we do.. we also report bad feedback from CS, so it can be addressed

[drifting spear]

If we hated the game we wouldn’t be here offering our free advice on how to fix it.