📋︱feedback-discussion

[terse agate]

Same devs that make sure you get less possibilities to upgrade gen 16….
Since that one is way stronger

[vague shoal]

Is blue serum going to become easier to get? There is still no good way to achieve enough blue serum

[worn solar]

I don't see States within range 600's to 700's not winning RR for next 3 months unless the alliance have 8 - 10 whales because joiners can't do anything other than burn and RF the buildings. They would be uselss at Water tanks

[terse agate]

Cannon fodder, since the players from 500 and up states are there just for the entertainment of the players of the states under 500

[keen narwhal]

also we cant get any survival coin now since it is out of stock in the store, you can get more if you spend

[terse agate]

Ofcourse not…..
No swearing allowed here….
Easier….. mind your language..

[vague shoal]

Also where does hero faction show at?

What faction is this hero?

[winter canyon]

All the strongest players are in the states 200-300

[quiet escarp]

Just wanna give a warm thank you to SOS from state 627 for the pre release nerfing of the hero’s for which we have been saving frags for almost a year (Maddie etc.) Makes us feel so good knowing all those endless PZ’s are going to culminate into a mediocre third March instead of the top notch gen that older states enjoyed for so long. Just thank you thank you

[tardy night]

You're assuming they are gonna let you convert Maddie into a purple brain limitless

[quiet escarp]

True. How dare I be so hopeful. What a slap in the face this is

[worn solar]

Won't they did it for everyone else?

[tame lintel]

Makes me want to ask for a refund for all the previous generations😅

[tardy night]

Ask those states just before yours, they weren't given enough means of acquiring capsules at a decent enough amount to focus on both gen 16 and prior gens

You will literally be forced to choose 😂

[winter canyon]

We are losing gen 13-15 so how can we even get Maddie to purple brain...

[tame lintel]

Even spenders

[spark kindle]

No, they only converted Gen 7 to 12 to limitless depending on their regular progress. I was in one of the states that got gen 13, 14 and 15 at once while having 7-12 limitless conversion

[tame lintel]

They have gen 13-15 maxed. Why spin more for 28 gen 16 frags?

[spark kindle]

And during the conversion, even your generals didn't complete the purple brain btw.

[worn solar]

What?

[winter canyon]

I wonder what will happen to the Nikola/Maddie fragments we saved now that we skipped them completely😑

[worn solar]

Those frags can be used for Skill upgrade is what I expect

[spark kindle]

Can't remember exactly but a few steps away from max and you still needed to work on skills separately

[terse agate]

I do like how the current update is thought up and how “Becca” was about the last one…..
Basically it says, “shut up, here you have 100 bios”

[tame lintel]

Full maxed got turned to this. (Without the talents)

[winter canyon]

But we can't even get the heroes because they are planning to skip us straight to gen 16

[spark kindle]

Yes but only after you reach purple brain and for that you'll need potions and capsules

[spark kindle]

Ah yes, thanks. Almost done but not max

[terse agate]

I think they make you a cross gen state

[tardy night]

It depends on whether they allow conversion of normal Maddie frags to capsules

If allowed, general Maddie is 18/21 completed

[terse agate]

Meaning you’ll get gens 13-16 all together…..
You won’t get extra materials to upgrade them tho…

[tame lintel]

Sure they will. In rays

[terse agate]

I said EXTRA🤣😂🤣

[tame lintel]

I IGNORED that word😅🤣

[terse agate]

You can become a dev🤣😂

[winter canyon]

Maybe if they gave all victims of their gen skip $h1t some proper compensation we could have a chance not to be cannon fodder for older states

[tame lintel]

😎😎

[crystal iron]

Dont think what 13-16 gen have same stats lol

[tame lintel]

Even the non skipped states are getting screwed. I have all gens maxed. I see no point to spin in rays anymore.

[terse agate]

Ehm, been advocating for that for 13 weeks now….
The answer is: NO

[crystal iron]

different generation, different statistics

[tame lintel]

Rays won't get anything but 26 frags for 1 gen 16 hero

[crystal iron]

Tempest giving more stats for gen lol

[tame lintel]

For me

[spark kindle]

No need to panic. I was in one of those states that got all limitless at once. Matching pool didn't really change for events (rr, mm, svs etc). We kept matching with the same states that we got before the Gen skip

[terse agate]

Gens 13-15 will become the same, only gen 16 will be higher

[winter canyon]

Hopefully😅

I sincerely hope we never match state 100-400s

[crystal iron]

300+

[spark kindle]

They match each other, why would you get matched with those when there are plenty of options around your state age

[crystal iron]

Stats with Tempest

[tame lintel]

Awe😭

[terse agate]

Our matching for SvS changed drastically due to our double merge….
The devs screwed us badly because of that too

[tame lintel]

What state are you?

[terse agate]

PoW is bad nowadays tho

[violet garden]

But why would they make us skip 3gens and cause stress, if it isn't for matching

[winter canyon]

676

[spark kindle]

Which range is your state in? I'm mainly talking about 500s when I say matching wasn't affected

[winter canyon]

Basically a year younger

[crystal iron]

PoW and KOTH absolutely 👎

[terse agate]

Also in the 500’s

[tame lintel]

Ya. Highest we have matched with has been 530

[winter canyon]

I've seen state 500s being matched with state 100s in path of water

[violet garden]

Also what is with solo events like pow, heist, sr?

[spark kindle]

It helps with transfer. I transferred from 585 to 88, it wouldn't be possible if they didn't skip gens

[terse agate]

What???? I even saw states below 100🤣😂🤣

[tame lintel]

We had svs vs 530 last week

[winter canyon]

OMG

[tame lintel]

2 lvl 70 collection arses there😅

[violet garden]

In the 625-714 range are enough options😆

[worn solar]

Pow is manageable if you can scrum up 2 best marches but heist, RR, MM and KoTH are events that we can not be impactful.

[tame lintel]

Pow is not matching. It's grouping people online in groups...

Nowhere near the same as like. Svs

[winter canyon]

No water tanks for us I guess😭

Their 6th march can probably beat our 2nd

[worn solar]

yep you cant win without tanks unless you have 5 whales holding Center WTC 1 and WTC 2, WPP-1 and WPP-2

[terse agate]

Same

[violet garden]

RR is our favourite event😔

[winter canyon]

This is so sad

Smaller players can't even participate at all

RR is my favorite

[violet garden]

They do all these changes without thinking about consequences 😞

[terse agate]

We have been matched ok-ish in RR tho….
KotH and pow are terrible

[spark kindle]

And there is no reason for that to change. You'll be matched depending on your rr scores, some matches will be bad and some will be good. Just like how it is now. Don't pay attention to people who like victimizing themselves because they are f2p. As someone who chose the f2p path, this is really infuriating.

[terse agate]

They think they do, however they just look at their maxed accounts….
You know, those fake dev accounts that are upgraded to the fullest in a day or so..

[tame lintel]

Rr score is also based on past performance..eh

Stop playing well. You'll get easier matching😅🤣🤣

[winter canyon]

So lose on purpose to meet weaker players?🤣

[violet garden]

Well i'm rally lead in my alliance. Knowing that my second march willbe worth nothing already tells me, that RR will change a lot

[tame lintel]

Hypothetically...yeah😅🤣

[violet garden]

That is not true, my alliance has a long winning streak and matches are still good

[spark kindle]

So you can work on different tactics ☺️ rr is fun because it's one of the rare events strategy still has a role in it in cases you cannot brute force your way into winning

[tame lintel]

You prove my point😅

[terse agate]

What I still hate is our terrible SvS matching each time, because the devs were so wise to screw up our state to clean up the mess they made in a previous state merge…

[winter canyon]

I remember there was one account who had 190M behemoth power but 0 troops

[tame lintel]

It is true. Look at personal score. Do really bad. Look next time. Your score is lower. Sorry not sorry.

[violet garden]

No tactic will work as well ours now works, if we can fight with only one march

[spark kindle]

Score is affected by past performance and also how long you've been in that alliance. It's affected when you move around

[tardy night]

That's cause people asked specifically to not be matched to older states until all were somewhat equal. This changed with gen 13 boost

This was officially explained here somewhere by becca or saber

[terse agate]

We only got a 12 weeks “grace period”.
That is over now🥺

[tame lintel]

The new tactic style they are trying to bring to us.. will indeed fix this.

[winter canyon]

Will find out about matchmaking few weeks later😅

[violet garden]

Our last opponents had no chance. Don't know, maybe we hit the max score and it doesn't effect us. Scores were always similar

[tardy night]

Ask for it to be extended as gen 13 boost only craps over you guys 🤷🏽‍♂️

[tame lintel]

Matching is matched on score. Yes.

But your score is based off the past

Look. We are against 19 VERY strong people. But scores are similar..
They have a strong and good past.

[violet garden]

You all can say what you want, our experience isn't that our matchings get harder with winning streaks

[tame lintel]

Noone said they did

[violet garden]

We don't leave alliance, not even for Svs

[tame lintel]

Your arguing something noone said..😅

I made a joke about low performance reducing your score. That was all

[violet garden]

Read what you wrote here😅

[tame lintel]

Nothing to do with matching

All about YOUR score

😘😘

[vale yoke]

[violet garden]

But my score is part of alliance score. Alliance score is sum of all registered or top 25 or whatever

[tame lintel]

Yup

[terse agate]

Here

[tame lintel]

So you having lower score. Will reduce alliance score. Therfore giving a smaller team to play against

😎😎

[violet garden]

Whatever, our individual scores don't change after wins. My experience. As i said, we might reached a max

[tame lintel]

Lmao

[winter canyon]

Hopefully they will extend the grace period

[tardy night]

Love the bottom portion of that. Lol

[tame lintel]

There is no max

Val had score of over 3 mill. You reach that?

🤣🤣

[vale yoke]

Basically what Moose is saying is that if some people have lowered performance during a match, their personal score lowers, which affects the total alliance score overall, which then eventually affects matchmaking. Is that correct, Moose?

[tame lintel]

Hypothetically. But matchmaking still suks. Soooo

Pointless

[vale yoke]

Matchmaking always will

Lol

[terse agate]

Yeah, I am still finding the right frequency……
I haven’t found it so far🤣😂🤣

[vale yoke]

Chek can explain the seeding and everything better than I ever will tbh

[winter canyon]

Can look at the MM and Path of Water matchmaking

[tardy night]

Matchmaking isn't done to ensure a better game. Lol. It will always be done to see if one side can be made to pay more

[winter canyon]

The winner is already determined at the beginning

[tame lintel]

I kinda disagree. I can see how it looks that way. But there are alot of very close matches.
Variables matter in matchmaking.

The best alliances to see if matchmaking works. Are the strongest ones. As they have the least amount of variables.. (aka. The most maxed people) .

They are continuously matched with likewise alliances/states.

If matchmaking was this way. They would be matched against smaller to "force people to spend"

[tardy night]

Okay

Meanwhile gaming companies filing patents on matchmaking based on money spent where lower spender likely to purchase is matched with high spender

[violet garden]

A max how much winning streaks effects scoring. I'm doing teams for RR for ages and i would have noticed winning and loosing effecting our scores. I'm a numbers nerd and have an eye for it.

But whatever. My experience is not your experience. That is ok. There are more important things like the gen 12->16 jump i hate and don't want

[tame lintel]

You cant even find out what heros are better without exact same variables.

Alliances with f2p have a wide variety of variables

[tardy night]

"we" can't. F+ knows every aspect of your spending pattern that exists and what makes you likely to spend.

Give access to your data that f+ has and any amateur data scientist can predict it with reasonable accuracy

[tame lintel]

Wtf are uou on about?

[tardy night]

Nvm😂

[tame lintel]

Lol. Clearly not what I was on about😅

[tame lintel]

Noone said winning or losing sir

I said "past performance"

[violet garden]

Not even that😂

[tame lintel]

Enter rr. And sit in safe zone for an hour. Check next week. Lower score. Sorry not sorry

[violet garden]

There is a similar player to me, who always makes more points, but our scores stay same

[winter canyon]

It's based on individual performance?

[sick ledge]

Tactic still work when you face big alliance lol 🤣🤔

[spark kindle]

Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't

[tame lintel]

Individual score is based off past performance and alliance "loyalty"
Team score is all Individual scores

Matchmaking is based of team score.

Is my statement

[spark kindle]

I blame the game design tbh, people became too lazy to develop actual tactics since it turned into a mindlessly push the buttons game

[violet garden]

I can't judge that, will watch the scores of players, who will be afk in a match. But still not a option for most, it would be loosing deliberately

[tame lintel]

I fully agree. Hense it being a joke when I first said it

As you woukd need to purposely lose many matches. To get 1 "easy" one

[viscid night]

Why do the developers have such a strange logic: on a trap, the rewards are determined by damage, and not by a place in the rating why then do I see my place but not my damage?

[tame lintel]

I'm glad we got through that

😅🤣

[tame lintel]

Your place is based off your damage. Isn't it😅

And its better this way. As many people can surpass a damage marker. And only 1 can get 1st

[violet garden]

I didn't get the joke, sorry😅

[sick ledge]

For me and I'm playing this game since the beginning, there is no more strategy if you are so big you win that all, maybe strategy works when 2 big alliance face each another but not for the reste

[tame lintel]

All good. I also enjoy a good mature debate😎😎

[tame lintel]

Yes. Tactic Was fully lost when bohemoth came along

[spark kindle]

Those super alliances usually match with each other so it's not really a problem for regular players/alliances

[sick ledge]

Yes they killed the game since that

[tame lintel]

I have hopes for this new hero style. But have more doubts. Based on past performances from devs

Potentially can add alot of tactic

But devs are dumb

[sick ledge]

There is a problem for others alliance if your alliance don't have a good rally lead and get an alliance that have 2 or 3 you can't do anything especially if they have a good monkey and T-Rex

[tame lintel]

Sooo

[sick ledge]

Nothing will work lol 🤣

[tame lintel]

Add Angelica....they screwed

[echo pulsar]

so, if you werent able to do biohunt straight after reset on the first day you lose out on at least 4 goes and thats it, nothing going to be done about it? I assumed we would get another 5 goes at reset but no, still waiting on the timer so wont even get 5 chances today, what a stupid system.

[sick ledge]

Lol it like that devs try to make money and make big player more bigger then now, and I think that what big player want to lol I don't think they care about others only thing they want it to stay on top and win

[echo pulsar]

and could we have confirmation that there will be no more ways to acquire survival coins before the Chris part of the event ends? we’re going to be left with useless coins that cant be used?

[viscid night]

If the rewards for your place were indicated here, I wouldn't say a word, but damage is important here, why can't I see my damage regardless of my place in the rating?

[tame lintel]

And that would be fine. If the devs raised the bottom at the same speed as they are raising the max ceiling..

[sick ledge]

Nah they need to keep up like that if they slow down big player will be lazy and maybe quit if others player will able to be like them lol so more money means more power and more event

[steel musk]

what the point of this discord?
i mean more than 1k voted on this feedback but devs didn't say anything about it.. yall waste your time here

[tame lintel]

You can see your damage in the trap when your doing trap. Aswell as the final mail shows you..

[fiery zephyr]

You’re missing the point 🙂
Right now damage cap and thus max rewards are given for 1,89B points. It’s reasonable that after that ppl who have 1,89B stop joining and only make their own rallies. But when you only see top 10 with 5-3B damage, and you’re only 25+? Is it time for you to stop?

[viscid night]

I mean during trap, it’s important

[tame lintel]

Click on the trap. Top option is "damage report"
Can only see when trap is active

[steel musk]

click on trap.. could see list for top 10 during trap

[tame lintel]

Ahh is it only top 10. Darn. Srry

[viscid night]

Aaaaa don’t answer me if u not understand my question

[tame lintel]

My tip. Never stop

[fiery zephyr]

Why?

[tame lintel]

Why stop?

[fiery zephyr]

You already have max rewards. Why won’t you give your fellow members get them too?

[tame lintel]

Stopping only hurts others

If you dont think they need full rallies. Your funny

If your a lead. Just set. Sure

What I do. Is set my rally. And top off not full rallies

Usually only a few k to each to finish it

It helps everyone. Especially if a plane gets in

[fiery zephyr]

Man. First 3-4 rounds it’s everyone jumping 3/3/3 into any rally possible. A LOT of ppl can’t join good rallies from RL. In second half, when most get max rewards it’s reasonable to leave spots open for your weaker members

[tame lintel]

Lol. Even matches🤮🤮

35/10/55. 😉

No ape

Right heros

You'll do better

[steel musk]

most can't join with 35 / 10 / 55.. or only hunter
they send 33 / 33 / 33 to join faster

[fiery zephyr]

Thanks Captain Obvious. We prefer to let our weaker members join good rallies too. So that they grow. But without your current points (if you’re out top 10) you can’t tell for sure when it’s time to stop

[tame lintel]

They can join that way... They choose not too

[steel musk]

2 - 5 sec then rally is full 😅

[tame lintel]

THEN DONT STOP

[fiery zephyr]

Whyyyyyy? I already get my max rewards

[tame lintel]

Because everyone is choosing to send bad formations

[fiery zephyr]

Why joining more rallies?

[tame lintel]

Then why are you asking?

[fiery zephyr]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[tame lintel]

If you know you are at max. Why are you asking

[fiery zephyr]

Because I want to know WHEN I, at max, so I stop joining

[tame lintel]

Be smart

[tidal apex]

Just read new game update note.

I just love how they imply rays place change is made to help players 🤣 because it will really help them when instead of being able to upgrade newest gen 16 they will be barely getting any materials for it

[tame lintel]

800mill in 1 rally. X 3. Is that enough?? I donno..😅

[steel musk]

It will help them to get burn faster

by whales

can't survival for even 1 hit

[fiery zephyr]

Glad for you. Depending on who I join, I get 50 to 300M. I don’t want to do report math DURING trap. I simple want a line BELOW trap damage list, saying - you’re #27, you have 1,6M points.

Then I know I only create my own rally and do make a coffee

[tidal apex]

That is a nice idea. It would help us know when we can stop joining rallies

[tame lintel]

Then make a feedback post saying so.. questioning the current method will only get you answers..

[worn solar]

2 Billion should be your target

[fiery zephyr]

BINGO!!!

That what we’re talking about here for days

But you see ppl asking - what you need that for?

Keep joining! Damage!

[tidal apex]

Isnt it simple? We know when we can stop joining strongest ppl rallies so more space for different people to also get max dmg rewards

[fiery zephyr]

1,89B is max rewards for us

[worn solar]

Some older state in 400 range have more rewards in trap beyond 1.89 billion. You can get 145 crate for crossing 4 .5 Billion limit.

[worn solar]

Same. I just rounded off

[fiery zephyr]

We don’t 🙂

[worn solar]

not yet. We grow older and stop needing those parts we get more rewards just like Hero Gear and Chief gear items

[fiery zephyr]

Point is - we mainly need trap POINTS under trap damage list, not your place…

[tame lintel]

F2p = Never stop😅

[worn solar]

That's what I said 400s states

[fiery zephyr]

We don’t have level 6 yet

Only 5

[tidal apex]

Can you show kill reward too?

Wondering how many heli parts :p

Need those

[tame lintel]

Want all? Or just that?

[tidal apex]

Thanks

[digital glacier]

I want a reset and return items of my gen 13-15 heroes, I want fragments of heroes available for use on any hero. Not the specific hero earned.

[tidal apex]

I think something is messed up with plane now 😒 Damn should have done screenshots before...

So I am pretty sure I had nearly maxed 4* plane before their cost/levels change, needed to upgrade just one last part for it to go 5*. Today upgraded that last part to lvl 80, it was middle bottom one and noticed that it did not go up in star. Rather than that now I can upgrade parts above lvl 80 while helicopter is still 4*. Not sure what is going on....

Did they stole upgrades from me when update happened?

[crystal iron]

They changed yeah

[tidal apex]

Changed but before update all but one of my plane parts was maxed on 4*

[crystal iron]

Its almost like a Helicopter upgrade

[tidal apex]

So how come after update suddenly they are not maxed?

What is max plane level now?

Hmmm... So how is it going now, 0-20 no star, 20-40 one star, 40-60 2 star, 60-80 3 star?

Then how come my plane was 4* with bottom middle part on level 70

[echo pulsar]

so this has just turned into another sos discussion place?? whats the point in having two?

[silent tree]

A in-game message was sent for the update of the plane

This channel works as a platform to discuss your feedback submission

[tidal apex]

Yes but it was supposed to not steal our upgrade progress

[echo pulsar]

This is ridiculous - you really expect us to scroll through 100s of posts to see if our topic has been posted already?? Most just get ignored because people will not scroll back

.• Sending in multiple submissions for the same feedback will be removed.

• If someone else has posted similar feedback, you do not need to make an additional report please just react on the similar post so we can get an accurate 'headcount' of those supporting each piece of feedback.

[echo pulsar]

no it doesnt, people just ranting about things, nothing to do with actual feedback

[silent tree]

I checked for you, I dont see any posts on it as of now. You can post a feedback and hope more people upvote

[silent tree]

That is because you have to post your feedback on this channel : #📋︱feedback-reporting

You can follow the pinned message on that channel for the template or from here : #📋︱feedback-how-to

[winter canyon]

Going from this

To this

If they skip generations like that and don't let us get more than 28 capsules from ray's place

[winter canyon]

They changed the level numbers of the plane without changing the stats at all

[tidal apex]

Yup but then here is my problem. Before change those parts were maxed 4*, plane was about to go 5*, I was missing just one last part to upgrade.

Today upgraded that last part to same level as other which was 80 but plane dis not rise in star level. In fact parts now can go above 80 which I checked on hunter lethality piece

If they doubled the level then every 20 levels plane should rise one star, right?

[winter canyon]

I don't think 80 is maxed for 4 star plane

[full pivot]

The plane damage was reduced. I remember it happened during annihilation event. Several people across our migo chat had reduced damage after the patch. Funplus are actually useless morons

[tidal apex]

If 4* plane is from levels 80 to 100 then it should be impossible to have 4* with one part below level 80. My bottom middle part was level 70 before I started upgrading today...

They messed up something badly here

[winter canyon]

My components are ranging from 70 to 94🤣

4 star is probably from 60 to 100

[tidal apex]

Earlier someone said 140 is max... Something does not add up. Each star level should be 20 levels. 0 stars 0-20, 1 star 20-40 etc

No wait... Is it starting at 1 star?

Anyway something strange going on, changing to bug channel

[fringe shadow]

Discord also has a search function where you can type in keywords of your desired topic along with specific filters that could save you a lot of scrolling…😅

[quiet crest]

and this

[winter canyon]

It's amazing that our current marches will be worth nothing next week

They raised the stats for gen 13-15 and then plan to skip us to 16 so we won't get those heroes at all

[fringe shadow]

When you get gen 16, you will have the new ray’s too, where you get gen 16 capsules in the milestone crates and then gen 13-15 capsules on the wheel itself

[winter canyon]

I still have gen 11 and 12 heroes

[quiet crest]

f2p/low spenders just focus on some gen 13-15 heroes it’s not needed all of them tbh

[frigid vault]

Max was 70 and now it's 140, each level was split in 2, so half the stats and half the requirements for each level now.
Star upgrade is the same but again just the number was doubled so if you needed level 50 for 5 stars before now you need 100

[fringe shadow]

I don’t agree the new changes devs are making are helpful at all, but at least you will get the opportunity to work on gens 13-15 at the same time as gen 16.

And since gen 13-15 will have same stats you can choose which heroes you want?

When my state skipped gen 13, we had 0 options to work on them. So it was miserable when we matched with opponents with 2 limitless marches while we had a mix of non limitless gen 10-12s as our marches

[full mist]

Think at this point, red universal frags are overdue 😒

[winter canyon]

That's only heroes and even if we got purple brain limitless gen 13-15 for free, we are still like 30K plasma cores behind compared to state 100-200😑

[worn solar]

Don't want to offend you but are you Saberlot in disguise?

[quiet crest]

u sound like a broken record about that

get over plasma, thats not even relevant rn to stay alive

[fringe shadow]

No way….im part of the unloved state range! I think we’ve got beaten down so much we’re starting to be content at even getting scraps.

[winter canyon]

Well, they have had much more time on most features🤷🏼‍♀️

[fringe shadow]

And if I were saberlot, I would just say “it is not beneficial to foster gen 13-14 as gen 15 and 16 are much stronger” 🤣

[quiet crest]

you should take deep look into those states🤣

[fringe shadow]

From 4 stars to 5 stars, it used to be 20 levels instead of 10, it costed extra to get to 5 stars. So now it must require 40 levels after they doubled the amount of levels.

[winter canyon]

Older states had way more months on gen 13-14

[worldly sable]

They do

[fringe shadow]

I hear you on that! We’ve been matching super old states already. Not pretty. I notice when we bring up this point, people in old states would reply to us by saying that they had to pay a lot more money for their plasmas while we got it for a lot cheaper or something. 😅

[quiet crest]

well they do bc thats true lol but in the 200’s ive fought even in the 100’s they don’t have necessarily more progress just because ‘more time’.

[slender merlin]

i give up, it's clear they don't know what they are doing and don't care if changes they make will damage players or not.

[winter canyon]

It's f***ed up to put younger states into the same category as much older states

[quiet crest]

improved pool

[winter canyon]

Why can't they just release a single generation instead of 4

And why raise the stats for gen 13-14 when state 500s couldn't even upgrade them

Basically lose out on 3 of the 4 gens

[worldly sable]

🙂

I need new game suggestions

I have already said if they really do decide to make us skip out on 4 gens with no real way to catch up, I am out. Disadvantaged in all events that use multiple marches - made even worse by giving them all equal stats now. Truly brainless

Useless lol

[winter canyon]

Guess our 2nd march will lose to their 6th march

[worldly sable]

While having to max most current generation

Is the stupidest thing I have ever heard

The hero system is meant to counter each other too, they can not even give the "get the highest gen, it is strongest" excuse they gave 3 months ago 😂

Also expecting people to max out more than one generation at a time is unreasonable and unfair given they are soon to match states that had a year to do it

Truly ridiculous these devs

[unreal lichen]

We're just here to help.

🤷🏾‍♂️

[winter canyon]

Devs never listen to actual feedbacks

No one wants to skip 4 generations but they still proceed with this ridiculous update

[rich nacelle]

Money is all that talks

[worldly sable]

I'm okay with it because it means my time in game will significantly shorten 😍

[unreal lichen]

Return of dead troops in alliance duels was a direct result of player feedback I do believe

[worldly sable]

Can not argue fairness all of the time and then do this to your players

[tidal apex]

They listen sometimes :p whenever someone comments sarcastic feedback about having too much free time and wanting more events or about wanting more ways to spend money

[woven spire]

Gen 16 still has more stats

So they counter your dreams

Cause sos is a bug

[tidal apex]

It is just that they really pick the stuff they listen to :p

[woven spire]

Just lurking you into maxing old gens (new states)

[worldly sable]

Selective hearing

[woven spire]

Seriously sos never will get better. Just quit, play free or keep spending. Its awfull and they dont care

Thats reality

[cosmic tulip]

Gen 16 is a mismatch of factors… god knows how there going to perform

[woven spire]

Probally much better then all others cause if they weak they buff

Otherwise no money

[winter canyon]

They can make good adjustments and have done so in the past

So I hope they can release only Nikola/Maddie in states who currently have gen 12 and not 4 gens at the same time

[worldly sable]

I don't even know why they gave us gen 12, just throw us into old state matching now

It is the same thing lol

Tf am I going to do with gen 12 then skip to gen 17 lmao

[cosmic tulip]

Trust me it hurts a lot, it was 3 months of hell… gen 12 is no match.

[short patio]

if you find a good one dm me..lol

[winter canyon]

Almost 1000% stats behind... and their skills are no match for gen 13+

[tidal apex]

Skipping hero generations is just crazy... It will kill off states so hard... Even biggest whales will start dropping off when they suddenly tell them to pay to upgrade so many heroes at once.

They want to widen garbage matching pool? Do it gradually, over a long period of time. Make one state loose 1 week here and there, another one gain extra week etc. and send compensations for that small timeleaps. Make it slow process so players can accept it.

Making huge leap like that at once? No, people will just quit

[winter canyon]

Not even biggest spenders can keep up with 4 generations at the same time

[cosmic tulip]

Yep, we were thrown to the slaughter… like i say it hurts a lot 😅

[tardy night]

Drop the 12k potions that can't be used in gen 13 😂

[woven spire]

Cause they kill off old states aka matchmaking Pool. They need to fix it by making Pool bigger

[unreal lichen]

That's a really constructive feedback! #📋︱feedback-reporting would really appreciate that being posted

[woven spire]

So they make a mess and try to fix it with a bigger mess

Thats sos

[steel musk]

they could just make Ray's place as suggest on feedback or this discord useless

[worldly sable]

The prizes and bundles literally do not allow you to upgrade more than one generation at once, without significantly falling behind other players. Rays is trash, you hardly get many parts as is. This is just an insult

[steel musk]

what they want for this? it's already more than 1k

[tidal apex]

Exactly like that, states are dying because of bigger money greed from kg, their solution is make even more money hungry move... Half of those states that advance generations like that will be dead in a month

[woven spire]

Yep 1000 states will skip 5 gens

They be sooner or later in pool

[winter canyon]

They are going to screw all 500+ states

[tardy night]

Plus older states get syringes in their pearl store. We get to compete in sotf ranks for it

[torpid gazelle]

They’ve been screwing with us for quite a while and yet people still pay to play. If we want devs to listen I think we need to hit them where it hurts. Their pocket books.

[worldly sable]

I know 🥲

[winter canyon]

They literally released 10 generations in 3 months

First limitless 7-12, now 13-16

[tardy night]

And their mergers were 2 state merges so instead of 15 states, players of maybe 6-8 compete in their sotf

[sly fossil]

Quite a few states that have been merged are up for a new merger again, because it doesn't really do anything.

[winter canyon]

Getting a single red limitless in 3 months is already really difficult

[tidal apex]

Yeah, syringes are just impossible to get. What a great idea, put one of the many essential items in a place where only 2 or 3 people can get any... They want to put syringes in sotf svs only? Then at least make whole top 100 get 1 syringe, limiting it to only top 2 or 3 (dont remember exactly) is dumb

Actually scratch that, everything here is messed up and will never change, what am I even hoping for... New rays place will make upgrading heroes impossible, value vouchers is 5 capsules per event only unless you pay, svs and sotf is like 12 capsules total per event if you are top 100 or maybe not even that. Meanwhile we need hundreds of them.

[winter canyon]

They should make universal capsules

[tardy night]

Scumplus thanks you for your support. Don't forget the 10k$ for Christmas. Gotta spread some cheer. New year bonuses won't pay themselves

[elfin blade]

Surprise tasks in operation festival are such bs, the rewards are actually decent but players apparently managing to send 15 messages in 0.01 seconds or demolishing 100 buildings in 0.02 - seriously?

[tidal apex]

They should have been made months ago, everywhere where it still rewards gold frags we should be getting those instead. Vip rewards too.

Gold frags in limitless state may as well dissapear completely, they are not needed in the game at this point. Capsules are doing same thing, can be used to upgrades skills too.

[full mist]

Yeah because it's not secret 😂

[winter canyon]

Gold frag is basically a capsule that can't be used to upgrade the main branch

[elfin blade]

I know what it is but I can’t physically do it that quickly? Or anywhere near. It literally takes more time to click

[tidal apex]

Demolition is possible, all connected roads go puff in one click but messages? Computer macro or something like that

[tidal apex]

Exactly that

[winter canyon]

And they give no points

[elfin blade]

It’s the same with every task, and the same players…so there’s certainly some kind of cheat

[full mist]

Sure, I'm not disputing that. It's ridiculous yes. but also the fact everyone is pre-waiting to complete it ASAP defeats the actual point of it in the first place anyway

[tidal apex]

In some events I get points for gold frags, need to first convert universal gold frag to specific hero frag and use that to upgrade skills. It is a workaround for sure

There is no point for universal gold frag even being an option in there. Leave just specific hero gold frags.

All it achieves is steal off potential points from people who forget or do not know they need to convert them to get points 🤣

[winter canyon]

I converted them to gen 3 fragments for points😞

I don't know how to convert to limitless when upgrading skills

[tidal apex]

Oh maybe it is different in some states.

Would not be surprised if not every state even had option to do that

They love fairness after all 🤣

Just a sec will post how it looks for me

[tidal apex]

Just need to click on Arthur frag in there and menu to convert pops up

Works only when I have 0 specific hero frags of that hero

If there are any convert menu will not show up till I use up all of them

[steel musk]

not this.. some states were able to convert gold frags to limitless frags

[tidal apex]

Oh never had that

[full mist]

Wasn't this stopped🤔

Was temporary

[steel musk]

yup

but it cost same when upgrad skills.. 10 gold frags = 10 limitless frags.. so it should let us convert it to limitless frags

[full mist]

When gen 15 came, as it had no gold frag prehand, there's no option to convert to them. So it stops up to 14th- I guess with 16, this will also be the case

[full mist]

Yeah

This is why it's time for red universal IMO, gold is outdated lol especially as they keep converting all gens to limits 😆

[tidal apex]

They hated it that people could upgrade heroes too easily thats why it stopped. Packs with hero capsules were not selling :p

[steel musk]

Behemoth was not enough 😩

Greedy devs

there many things they should change it but they didn't yet

like hero badges from intel..

[still tapir]

Eh nothing will work. States have also been killed off by transfers. 269 and 284 come to mind. Now 250 will die as their biggest player went to 209 but now 209 will likely die off since those same players went 478. Well whatever state has [FBI] alliance. And what left of 250 ran off to 246. Also whatever states that were leading got zeroed 6 months ago to get that BP to drop.

[keen narwhal]

We need more stocks of survival coin in the store!! This free draw everyday doesn't give us chris fragments.

[still tapir]

But apparently you have a 37% chance to get a Chris frag. Which is a lie.

[keen narwhal]

Well yeah, they are just randomizing the number

37% but when i spin 10x i only get 2x of them lol

[cursive reef]

Can a verify menu be added to the "report avatar" button? It is directly below the "chat" button in alliance chat, and if someone else suddenly posts a new message, the entire option box will move up as well

[digital glacier]

So, explain this

[digital glacier]

1. You can attack lady dimitrescu 5 times a day earning rewards each time.
2. Attack attempts regenerate periodically. You can also purchase bundles for more attempts.
   Ok, so,
   after 5 I don't gets rewards?
   How can I attack it 5 times a day if chances regenerate every 25 hours 🤣

This event runs for 2 weeks, but the timer shows 2 days 🤔 this event have a stupid refresh during it?
they didn't give me enough to actually be able to accomplish 5 a day on an average, will I get more free attempts after timer hits 0?
Is there ranking rewards for solo atta k when timer hits 0? Is that timer only there for showing the time allowable for this week's alliance event?

[pine tree]

they want people to buy the 3 ..99 cent packs a day that generates more money into the wallets.Seriously you are better off just buying the $5 dollar pack it better than the top reward basically

[digital glacier]

But it says, 5 a day and extra with bundles.

Can't average 5 a day of they don't give me more free chances

[pine tree]

Its BS

[pine tree]

I know what your saying,you basically have to buy the 99 cent packs everyday to even get close to lv 40,is it even possible?

[worn solar]

nothing from Saberlot I see. He picked a right time to go on 2 day vacation

[digital glacier]

You get 67 refresh chances in 14 days

[crystal iron]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Nice name

[pallid willow]

A governor invitation is needed to transfer?

[pine tree]

says it ends in less than two days

[dusk cave]

Give it a try, near the end it opens if you have the passes.

[pine tree]

you have to meet the quota without a gov invite

[vague shard]

Just picked up 3 reward crates in monitors journal (resident evil). The ones after level 60. But can’t see them in backpack, where do they go?

[mighty gorge]

They auto open, out of 10 or 11 of these(I lost count could be more) all I got from them was skin tickets and one march skin. Pretty crap really.

[vague shard]

Ok, guess I got skin tickets as well then. Couldn’t see anything fun. Thanx

[vapid forum]

Can i suggest monopoly money for bundles being a thing?

[vague shard]

Or a f2p world, where smartness more important than money

[digital glacier]

It's probably like trap. Or something.

The alliance chance has until Sunday 23:59:59 to do the event

[digital glacier]

I want in.

[vague shard]

It will never happen. But I could go for a state with spending limit, thousand players spending 10$ per week easy pay expenses

[tame jackal]

Which is the best statue among these?

[mighty gorge]

Shark, personally as 200% damage on first hit. Siren & Octo for Riders, Seahorse is hunters, but 30% only every 10 turns. The splash pool is 12.5% reduction to Inf on 12 turns, but you should already have that, and you would need 3 (another 2) to get to the next level (15%)

The whale/juggler thing, I cant' remember.

[minor prairie]

So how do current players get the 1000 free draws as advertised? Do we have to redownload the game using the ad link?

sorry still trying to learn where to post questions

[mighty gorge]

1000 free draws for what?

[minor prairie]

Ad on Youtube by them says just to celebrate their 4th Anniversary everyone gets 1000 free draws (searches) for heros

[mighty gorge]

Yeah, I wouldn't read into that too much

And the likelihood you get anything is slim to nothing

[minor prairie]

It's literally their ad ..... well when I first joined I got the 777 drawings and I actually got several good ones

but it says download the game with the link there but i mean do we do that and reinstall the game? that seems pointless

[mighty gorge]

It doesn't say what 1000 free draws are in lol

FP lie, period.

[tame jackal]

I was thinking about skywell, do you think it's bad?

[minor prairie]

well int he ad it says hero draws lol i can't copy the entire 2min ad and post it

[mighty gorge]

Oh, thats the juggler thing I was refering to, what are the stats?

[mighty gorge]

There is a search feature in game, where you get 'search maps' for fragments of heroes. This is the only thing I can think it is, however its pretty useless and I've never seen anyone get 'free anything' in this game except a few mediocre compensatory awards.

[minor prairie]

Yeah it endedu p giving me 777 i got several heros when i joined up its annoying though bc i did get lucky and i cant level her so thats annoying

[mighty gorge]

I guess it depends, the % here will really align to who and what is attacking you. 32.5% of the other persons attack damage. I guess its OK, its just hard to determine its effectiveness. Are you a RL?

[tame jackal]

I'm a low spender, I just want the best to help me survive 🤣

[mighty gorge]

the 777 spin is just an in game event. You get hero's as you progress anyway, but you need to obtain fragments in order to locate them.

[minor prairie]

Roger that

[mighty gorge]

So, joiner. In this case then, it would benefit you more as someone 'being attacked'. I don't know, the stats on that are more subjective and probably only you can decide if its a good fit. I personally took the 200% because I'm a RL.

[tame jackal]

I'll think carefully about which one I'm going to buy, I could only buy one and it will be my first

[mighty gorge]

At the end of the day 32.5% of a maxed out player is quite a lot, but 32.5% of a low or mid level player isn't anywhere near. Think of the situations where it would benefit you, so in AH, AD etc.

[tame jackal]

I agree with you, I will think carefully about which one I will choose. Thank you for your help!

[mighty gorge]

Question: I cant' remember, but does the RE store simply have the special RE branded items removed, so the coins and amber can still be used on march skins, HQ skins etc? It ends in 12d, but the event itself still has 68d and additional story missions.

[mighty gorge]

Just to note Lucky is a P2P hero

[pallid willow]

Does anyone know an almost exact date on when next transfer event should be?

February what?

[placid inlet]

It’s generally every 3 months. We won’t get the exact dates until closer when the devs announce them though.

[pallid willow]

any idea if it’s before or after valentines?

[frigid vault]

11 weeks from now

[pallid willow]

Ohh then like february 3 or such right?

I just don’t wanna see crap valetines in my current state 😅

[frigid vault]

Migo start at Monday, 10 weeks and the transfer in a week or like we had now that the actual time to move is a week after

[pallid willow]

I see 😓 ty

[stable cosmos]

Little bit f2p once limitless hits as long as they leave her in vouchers. She becomes outdated in a state by gen4 but it takes them a while to add her to vouchers for frags.

[steel musk]

they added her to vouchers for states + 600 but deleted her because limitless

Ray hero was could get him by vouchers also

and some states couldn't get her to limitless because no frags..

[unreal lichen]

what's the best channel to ask about some features release dates? I need someone from Gen8 or higher to help me out if possible

[stable cosmos]

She comes back later with capsules. First release of limitless is weird and I'm not sure if they maintained it newer states

[vernal moss]

Lucky's a little tricky to get high enough to be as useful as possible with just the vouchers compared to previous gen but it's still better than nothing!

[vernal moss]

Hi colthas. If it's about heroes i'd recommend the #⚔heroes channel! But as i'm already here you're welcome to pop me a dm and i can help where i can if you'd like

[stable cosmos]

Im guessing that means the rules did change. Cos on 1st release of limitless blue brain and hero rank were separate. To hit general you still needed frags. To get all the limitless bonuses was the other side. They removed it way later on

[unreal lichen]

I need to learn when P13 releases, when T12 releases and when formation system releases. I don't need perfect times, just generations

I'm trying to ask in older states but this whole game is dead af I swear

[toxic meadow]

Why is it that we can't keep claiming on HQ Growth Kit? HQ levels have gone up and We should still be able to keep claiming on HQ Growth Kit because we paid for it.

[digital glacier]

Not in 70% of the states she's not, can easily get from vouchers and many states had our still have an early voucher store with Ray and lucky.....

[digital glacier]

Sorry to burst your bubble but you will. Unless you go offline for 61+ days.... If that still works anymore 😂🤣

[vernal moss]

I can't seem to find a direct X weeks / hero gen release for t12 & p13 but for the formation system it should be 74 weeks old state.
I'll continue to look and i can send you a dm if you'd like?

[unreal lichen]

that'd be great, thanks

[fringe shadow]

I don't see P13 arrival on this chart though, but it has T12 release.

[stable cosmos]

Hate this event. Throw it out and do better

[frigid vault]

So no more general fragments for l resonated heroes...
Nice

[unreal lichen]

Thank you, P13 is probably around Gen 9 release too then

[fringe shadow]

have they already made an official announcement saying they won't bring back the general resonate hero frags?? 😔

[frigid vault]

They just removed it without saying anything and I don't expect them to say anything

[stable cosmos]

Can't have people who saved up general frags upgrading a collab hero for FREE when they could be paying money.

They may or may not come back. Don't hold your breath

[olive sluice]

they only say something if it's beneficial for them

[frigid vault]

You can still keep the vouchers but then you need to hope they will use same vouchers next time

[fringe shadow]

I'm hoping they will bring the general resonate hero frags back after this RE collab 🥺

[tame lintel]

Nothing has ever come back.
It gets vomited back at us in the form of 4 other currencies that are 3x the cost

[keen narwhal]

tf is this i use general hero fragsment but it didnt count

oh i see

[olive sluice]

Or we can recycle it for crap

[stable cosmos]

Same as always always and has never been different as far as i can remember. The basic gold ones don't grant points. Yes, its bs as it says any. The devs lie. But the basic golds have never granted points in any event and this one is no different.

[tidal apex]

I think the part that gets people is that they are using general resonating frag as a picture in there, you see it and instantly think so those give points

To be fair text is not lying, any legendary hero fragment, not universal fragment

[fringe shadow]

the general legendary frag has a fist in the middle of the puzzle piece though....not a hero's head. 😅

[tidal apex]

Then I am sory, it was my mistake, it ia good that the picture is different. I guess anything that is golden without exact hero in it is universal frag for me

In that case nicely done, I accused the innocent.

[hasty tulip]

I am still waiting for balanced Path Of Water. I was best from my team

[tidal apex]

It is fully balanced. They balance it around who spend a lot wins a lot.

[unreal lichen]

only balanced POW you can get is the bump n bounce version we had once

[tidal apex]

For example I love facing same full nearly maxed whales team 3 times in a row with other random people

Such a joy when all we can do is sit in base and wait till game ends

[unreal lichen]

play 10 games a week and keep your rank low so you rarely see someone like that 😄

[hasty tulip]

Sounds funny

[hasty tulip]

It's silver IV

[tidal apex]

Rank have nothing to do with pow matching

Thats the problem

You can be silver and play top 10 on all state leaderboard

[unreal lichen]

hmm I usually dodge superwhales until I get to plat

[tidal apex]

Maybe game also considers me a whale :p Managed to burn p13 in alliance duel once, my biggest victory. Tped next to a guy when he somehow had 6 marches out because he was doing intel during duel 🤣

[tidal apex]

Looks like someone is playing against his farm

Thats why PoW really should get 10 mins timer on whenever you search for game but do not accept it when it finds one...

[worn pewter]

So ray’s place will not have gen 16 on the wheel and if you get every single crate from rolling on the crate bar you can only get 28 capsules.

Tell us you want us to quit without telling us you want us to quit

[short patio]

nope..they're telling us to shed more money..

[worn pewter]

Exactly my point

[stable cosmos]

Thats such a poor design choice

[worldly sable]

Lan or whatever is too frumpy

[wide wraith]

i see in the game information there is nothing about those who will only just be getting Gen 12 on Monday, guess we dont count

or those who are just getting Gen 11, its time that the information sent out by the Devs was more comprehensive and not just pandering to the old states

[old oasis]

Most of us have just worked out if we are getting them by the sotf

[tardy night]

They gave up on the pretence that mods get exclusive info from game studio and can talk to representatives eh🤣

Used to have it on the recruitment posts they put out. Such fun reads

[old oasis]

At present the bot is a bit behind its updates as usually we use that to quite good accuracy but the merge and transfers slowed some states down and sped others up

[wide wraith]

the bot doesnt explain anything with all the changes, it is as you say out of date, its time the Devs and CMs talked about other states not just the favoured ones

[keen narwhal]

but LAN is hot tho i would definitely get her

[tardy night]

F+ bringing out the pillow collectibles soon for her I hear. Preorder only available if she's maxed within a week.

[stable cosmos]

Pillows. Statuettes. Mousepads.

[violet garden]

This is a slap in the face of anyone voices their concerns. Oh you will get 12 new heroes, your old first march is super weak and you have to upgrade some heroes to be somewhat competitive, well we can't offer you advice, but you can buy this pack. I'm sure it will solve all the issues we cause you.

[steel musk]

Devs : go for it lol

[stiff ether]

You‘re Funplus‘ dream customer I guess 😁

[violet garden]

@merry scroll please explain us, why dev f**k us over like this? What are you going to do to keep game enjoyable for us the next months, when we will do bad in any event we need a second march and matched with older states?
Will you keep ignoring and hope people decide to take it, rather leave it?

[rocky otter]

If I throw $5 on the ground, it's a more valuable package. At least someone who needs it can find it

[thorny plume]

The 28 completion capsules per round of rays is something that will just make me skip this gen.. money saved

But a quick question

Is the skill enhancements important? To me it looks like the top one is good

Better to just finish Evelyn or Carlos or Robert gen fully to IX by using rays

For bio

So no money for funplus

Carlos is insanely decent

[violet garden]

We had it with gen 12 now. You basically can focus on only 1 hero and can upgrade it can get pretty far, and the hunter hero can reach the purple brain just with events. But that's it. Older gen is easier

[violet garden]

The top one is good. But how good chris is depends a lot on how good the hero is, he is resonated with

[thorny plume]

Older gen is much easier

For pve Nikola is king

Like trap, but I still have my Olly with Wolfie

For PvP 🙂

[violet garden]

That is probably what i will do too. And marcos with soft and rays and so on rider will be an old one too. No way I'm going to spend. Especially not when people here voice their concerns and get ignored all the time.

[thorny plume]

But I think if they do it like this Im not gonna put much effort into building her. Maybe Ill build Robert or complete evelyn.. depends on if next gens rider or infantry is better then Evelyn or Robert . Evelyn seems kinda moot

Carlos is insane still so perhaps worth building

He outdamages my Olly Wolfie thats done

[violet garden]

That was my initial plan, when i thought we would go from 12->15, because that is what i heard too. But marcos is easier with sotf. I'm hoarding for a long while and will get a lot for him. And i need a good inf hero fast

[thorny plume]

Its bothersome how they keep making things harder to acquire

Or more expensive

The Pearl event this round is terrible

Competing with 80 states and what you get for ranking top 150, 300 skin tickets 😂

And to get all pearls you need to really pour ressourses into it. And once done you get 20 x 5 pearls

While this event gives skins frames etc when you go into crate

[violet garden]

I stopped caring about skins and focus on behemoth and all the other features.(mid spender, not sure how long though)
Skins are a money pit. I will never have 12% bonus, but that is fine.

[stable cosmos]

Op festival is just gonna make your sotf and svs worse for no great benefit

[thorny plume]

100 percent, so smart to wait using those ress

[stable cosmos]

Due to emptying your backpack for garbage

[thorny plume]

Oh ive only used things I havent had the need for

And gotten enough to up behemoths a bit and formations.. you get relevant stuff there

[stable cosmos]

I did some potions cos iirc nothing does potion points rn

[thorny plume]

Ive saved em incase i decide to build Robert 🤓

[stable cosmos]

But even that kinda stinks because i don't really get anything out of that. The circuit board prizes stink. The store is "ok" but its not worth the items used

[thorny plume]

Store is good if you avoid the skins

My monkey formations and crystals isnt done and its a good source for stuff needed for that.
Only thing I sortoff shouldnt have used imo was 3k plasma, but 3k plasma doesnt give much SVs prep score anyways

But the rest of the stuff besides monkey formation etc is garbage. Good source for plasma and crystals too

But they keep making it harder todo cheap

[cloud vale]

Skins and frames from lvl 60+ crate?

[thorny plume]

Frames yes so far

Skin you need to spend 25 on

[cloud vale]

Ahh you mean the lower ones

[thorny plume]

Bottom row, but stuff from the 60+ crate in that event seems better then 5 pearls

[cloud vale]

The 10$ and 20$?

Gotcha

[thorny plume]

But ive barely touched the 60 crate so gonna be interesting to see what else it holds

[cloud vale]

So far i’m at 62, gave me 40 or 60 coins

Still better than the pearls lol

i wish it’ll give us cool stuff but knowing this company we should be happy with 40 coins

[thorny plume]

Would be good if they could write down the rewards

😅 but that would just fall in line with would be good if they told us a little about the new events they release

Like the resident evil trap thing

Have it for 2 weeks and we need 2 weeks to figure out marches to use

👌

[keen narwhal]

my chris doesnt progress anymore lol

[fiery zephyr]

Is there a tiniest bit of critical thinking in the pea brains of sos devs? We had gen 12, next week it’s bam! Bloodsport with gen 16 hero 🤦🏻‍♂️
Ffs, just how are we supposed to level up FOUR gens at once? Meanwhile, I’m sure, they will pair our state with states who had gens 13-15 for regular 12 weeks a gen…

[terse abyss]

Hu

[thorny plume]

Kinda bad its too luck based 😦 mine is f2ped

[keen narwhal]

yup

cant get any survival coin anymore

[thorny plume]

And hopefully before event ends I can enhance first skill

[keen narwhal]

already out of stock in the store

[thorny plume]

Thats so bad tbh

[keen narwhal]

the stocks shoudn't be limited to 20 like that

[cloud vale]

Found this from another server

For some reason when I click it doesn’t show that

[thorny plume]

Amazing, thanks

[cloud vale]

Credits to @sly roost

[violet garden]

I got only a lot of skin tickets and 1 coin for chris thing so far😆

[cloud vale]

Well get used to it, its what most of us will get 🥲🤣

[violet garden]

They don't even show some decency and come here and take our concerns serious.
They just throw this at us and practically say: Take it or leave it (game)

[thorny plume]

But they giving same stats for some gens now dont they ? 13 to 15 ?

[violet garden]

Makes it all worse. Our current first march, that will be our second soon, is completely worthless compared to other. If at least gen 13 and 14 stats stayed the gap would be smaller

[thorny plume]

Im still using Maddie

[violet garden]

As long as we are matched with states from our state group all is good, all in the same boat. But with older states it will suck. Sr, heist no chance

[violet garden]

We don't have maddie

[thorny plume]

Thats bad

That is truly bad

[violet garden]

And no time and stuff to upgrade. We have to choose 3 from the 12 new ones we get, whom we can upgrade fastest and will loose any time we need our second ones

[thorny plume]

Merging overall has worked quite badly

[stable cosmos]

Limitless is one of the many 💩 design decisions made in this game. Not the first, won't be the last

[thorny plume]

No but my point was just newer heroes isnt always a win

My Maddie kicks stuff to the curb compared to Evelyn

[violet garden]

The worst is, people are complaining here for 2 days now and we get completedly ignored. And if we tag saberlot once to often in our frustration and desperation, mods tell us multitagging is against server rules. While we still get ignored

[stable cosmos]

I also understand that they need to release new heroes. And that those heros SHOULD be better than the previous gen. Just not 1200% better and the previous gen should then become more available

[thorny plume]

Im still using Olly Maddie and Carlos. And Olly is better with Wolfie then Robert even with the stat decrease (imo)

[violet garden]

It will ruin game and events for us

[thorny plume]

Saberlot never answers critisism

Ever

[stable cosmos]

I get the saberlot thing tbh. Tag him 400 times and all he sees is 400 tags. Not 1-2 that are worth it. If everyone is important, nobody is

[thorny plume]

They broke my migo and I tagged em for days, no reply.

Thats a point, but maybe they should be a little bit more connected with their customers

[violet garden]

Oh i know, skills matter more now, and that isn't my issue and it is actually cool. But getting matched with people who had those heroes for a year or so now isn't fair

[stable cosmos]

And discord is awful for dealing with tags after the fact.

[stable cosmos]

I have provided this feedback here officially, unofficially and in game. Totally on board with you there

[violet garden]

Well then make him come here. He is nowhere to be seen. And we have a huge issue. The whole state group 625-714

[thorny plume]

It often happends during ress raid leauge too, that bothered me alot

[stable cosmos]

I could do a better job as CM in my free time

[thorny plume]

Ive played some rounds with a team that has a fair chance of winning and i think theyve won atleast 5 or so... And end rrl season new heroes pop up

Its sneaky

Sneaky af

[stable cosmos]

Doomsday was worse. Suddenly OP olly right in the middle of it. And after it was brought up and abused for a round, then they fixed it

[thorny plume]

And with my regular team weve often matched people that has other and new heroes 😂 its like they do it on purpose

[stable cosmos]

When i could play rr cos saturday 2200 existed!! we'd meet new gen teams sometimes. Activity could win it. That was pre planes though

[worn solar]

So @merry scroll has decided not to be present until Gen-16 is released with other 3 Gens in my state

Then he can say it's too late

[violet garden]

But it is not just one event. It will ruin events for months to come. Regular alliance events, any solo event

[violet garden]

It is already too late.
This is a slap on our faces

[stable cosmos]

They are pretty good at face slapping

[worn solar]

As per #📖︱server_rules I can only tag Saberlot once so if you all can do me a small favour and tag Saberlot once it would be useful

Why is he allowed to have peaceful sunday while we struggle

[violet garden]

And killing game too. I wonder how many in that state group will quit

[stable cosmos]

If i had his job, and was treating it the way he does i would have notifications from this discord muted and would simply open and then close this channel to clear the notifications if the number looked too high

[violet garden]

Whales who will not able to decently upgrade heroes for 2-3 marches fast enough and will loose in events for months.

[worn solar]

Atleast he has to do that so I am glad if we can make him do that little amount of work

[violet garden]

I used my chance already😂

[worn solar]

I used yesterdays chance and this was today's chance

[stable cosmos]

If i had the job myself, the number would never be very high because I'd be communicating with the community and they'd know wtf was happening and i wouldn't need tagging for normal gameplay...

[worn solar]

I will keep tagging Saberlot once a day for years even if I quit playing this game

[violet garden]

Me too. Yesterday i was the one getting the warning😆

[stable cosmos]

Won't see him again till Thursday probably

[violet garden]

So now people get muted for voicing their frustration?

[worn solar]

My post took 10 add seconds to appear

[violet garden]

Really nice 👌

[worn solar]

I might be timed out from writing too quick responses

Can we start lying about SoS and see how fast MODs will appear to set us right?

[jovial falcon]

You want us to lie about SoS? Okay, SoS is a good game where the gamers are priority and the devs do their jobs by making sure the gamers are heard.

[versed spruce]

So Resonating Vouchers returned for the second time after they removed the uni reso frags. It's still removed, so I guess there is no intention to ever bring it back?

[violet garden]

That is what they hope we think though 😂

[terse agate]

I don’t think so…..
Devs are scared that the F2P safe up and get one good res hero

[thorny plume]

That is a good point

They have to cater to the whales

But problem is they also chasing away mid spenders

And who are the strong guys gonna fight when everyone else is gone

[terse agate]

I know, been trying to make them understand this for 13 weeks now……
But they don’t listen and don’t care….
They want the younger states to be cannon fodder for the older states….

[terse agate]

The whales in the younger states are also chased away

[thorny plume]

And to be fair, as f2p.. can still do ok

Just do rays, finish Carlos maybe Robert and new rider hero as well as you can

Wont be top notch but Carlos is top notch atm

[violet garden]

The whales will be more frustrated than anyone. Their current first marches will be worth nothing in 13h

[violet garden]

In 6 months maybe

Rn we will face a 700% or so stat gap to the first marches of old states and ours. We have only gen 12 now

Any mid spender with strong behemoth from older states, will beat the whales from 625-714 this week

And f2p will be like little farm accounts compared to the f2p from olter states for weeks

[terse agate]

Yup…..
But the whales of the older states seem to be more valuable for FP 🤷‍♀️

[terse agate]

About that, they (SoS) truly don’t care…..
Not understanding the whales also like to have their F2P friends around them.

[violet garden]

Very true and so stupid of the devs.

[mighty gorge]

If I had his job, I would be spending a lot more time here, almost daily talking to the people on the ground, I would be lobbying for fairness and as a direct employee of FP, taking a serious view of the problems players face back to the development team, rather than treating us like second class citizens or tools for their large incomes. These problems are directly why they are seeing a nosedive in revenue from $22m per month to $8m

He wouldn't need to get tagged if he was visible and present.

[violet garden]

Anyone would do a better job. The current CM are practically are getting paid for doing nothing

[woven spire]

They do something

When they talk they mislead everyone

[mighty gorge]

This is systemic of their entire customer support ethos, it's not unique just to him

[woven spire]

Thats their job

[violet garden]

You mean open app and mark sos dc as read?

[woven spire]

I think they have on mute tbh

Even notifications😂

[terse agate]

Smart, if you don’t see it, it is not there 🤣😂🤣

[wide wraith]

they have silent notifications then just use the mark all as read

[woven spire]

No one believes their crap anyway😂

[mighty gorge]

In all reality alot of games have both a CM and lead developer collaborating and connecting with their player base. I've seen YT videos with both these roles working in tandem while they are explaining features, changes, problems at an almost daily if not generally weekly rate. FP have zero concept on how this should work.

[wide wraith]

and heaven forbid that you ask anything thats different to the next peice of junk they are peddling for example states that dont have gen 15 etc, as you are ignored by anyone including mods

[terse agate]

Dear @merry scroll , I would kindly ask you to explain the following:

• Why do the devs favour the states 400’s and below over the states 500’s and up?
• How do you think this making gens 13 and 14 of the same strength as gen 15 is gonna help states 500’s and up? Since this too only helps states 400’s and down.
• will the states 500’s and up (cross gen states) get additional materials to upgrade their heroes?
• can’t you see that the new Ray’s place is more beneficial to the 400’s and down states then the 500’s and up states?
• the cross gen states (500’s and up) are getting in a worse and worse position, will the devs help them or are they just there as cannon fodder to the older states?
• Please advice us what to do to get in the favoured position for the devs? I would love to be in that position.

[wide wraith]

they dont favour states in the 750s, missing migos, still back on Gen 11, Gen 12 as of Monday,
In 857 they didnt even activate all the AC buffs as they did when state 761 was merged into state 759, so dont give favoured states for those about 500, the Devs only care about their latest money-making scam

[violet garden]

Groot was saying they only do things to favour states below 500

[terse agate]

Like I said, they favour 400- states

Make it hard for 500+ states

[thorny plume]

To be fair they dont favor the old old states either, weve also missed a migo amongst many other things. S30 here

[terse agate]

You got all the time to build your heroes

Didn’t skip the limitless

[wide wraith]

well i am adding specific states, i would see lets see @merry scroll explain his way out of this but it will be ignored as its not favoured states

simple they want to skip, give us the heroes they skip but at a maxed level

[terse agate]

500+ states against 100- states in PoW😒

[thorny plume]

And we didnt get free shards thrown at us all the time

We dont have the new alliance tech that others have had for years

We miss half the buildings

Or whatever it is

[woven spire]

3months for gen 1 6 for gen 2. Didnt new get 3 for gen 2? We didnt get the money tho😂

Simply it isnt fixable

They messed up everything

[thorny plume]

But on limitless your right, to be fair the price of them was so high few have gotten en

Em

[woven spire]

Gen 1 2 were crazy expensive

[terse agate]

We have:

• missed Migo
• skipped hero gens
• Double state merge, because the devs screwed up

[woven spire]

1200 per skill

Thats almost x2 of gen 15

[violet garden]

Did it cost you a disadvantage like we are facing? Can you imagine a 700% stat diff? Our current first march for the trash bin?

[woven spire]

It cost us bunch of money

So pay it and you get it

Thats sos

[violet garden]

F2p will beat me this week in SR

[terse agate]

It cost us extra money to buy the extra materials of the skipped gens

[woven spire]

Are you on gen 12?

[violet garden]

Yes

[thorny plume]

And we have dying states since we merged so long ago and nearly noone is left

[woven spire]

How "extra" that money i already payed?

New states had the improved packs

Old states didnt

300 plasma for 110€

Imagine that

[woven spire]

Huh what state?

[thorny plume]

Thats fair 😂

[woven spire]

You gonna skip all gens?

Ye need to imagine. Take a dior. I bet alot old states even weaker have higher spendings

[violet garden]

701 and yeah, we go from gen 12 to gen 16

[woven spire]

While hes stronger

[woven spire]

RIP

So gen 16 comes in our pool

Its simple

They killed matchmaking so they put new states in it

To fix their mess

But creates a bigger mess

[terse agate]

We went skipped gens…..
But got only the materials for 1 gen, but got them all….
Meaning pay for gen 15 pay way more for gen 14….

[violet garden]

Why do you think I'm so desperate to be hurt? And saberlot ignores us and even the MODs abandoned us

[woven spire]

How you pay more for gen 14?

We payed same price

[terse agate]

Ok again

Listen

We got gen 13-15 together

[woven spire]

Yes

[terse agate]

So you get the materials for one gen

Pay some to max it

[violet garden]

We can make less use of events like rays and vouchers. Old states had these for 9month.

[terse agate]

You don’t get the materials for gens 13 and 14

[woven spire]

You pay same price still. Only in shorter period but then again we payed worthless packs while you didnt. Just cause game was in early stages

[terse agate]

Thus that’s only paying to max

[violet garden]

You got much more for free

[woven spire]

Well free in sos.... is never much😂

[terse agate]

No, since you gotten 6 months of events to get them

[woven spire]

Dont use free and sos in 1 sentence😂

[terse agate]

A part of the materials at least

[steel musk]

like limitless.. when they changed gen 7 - 12 to limitless.. old states got them by old frags

[woven spire]

Ye very little. It at least cost 2k to max all 3 without the syn

[violet garden]

Sotf, svs, rays, vouchers. All ways to get hero stuff for free

[thorny plume]

Except cr, newer states was the ones that had all the frags

We didnt get those free frags since day 1

We bought them

[woven spire]

Lucky i maxed for over 1k i think

Idk how much all packs are

To general

She isnt doable as f2p for example

But anyway. The solution. There is none

Sos juet messed up the whole game

[terse agate]

True, she never was

[woven spire]

Getting it free. I should get refunded

Like many more

[terse agate]

Yup

[woven spire]

Not getting it. Well ye you surely have kind of disasavantage

Cause need to spend alot in small period if you want to max them

[violet garden]

There is a solution. They shouldn't make us jump gen or at least ensure we only get matched with our current state group for 6month

[steel musk]

just skip gen 13 - 15 and do 16 only

[violet garden]

Then we will have cought up, but like this, they will kill 90 states

[terse agate]

They won’t

[steel musk]

no need doing older heros

[woven spire]

Then old states stop spending cause no matchmaking. They killed legit 99%

Bit to much but you get my point

[violet garden]

You need second or even third marches in all events

[terse agate]

Well, gens 13-15 are now the same strength 😒

[woven spire]

Gen 16 is stronger tho

[steel musk]

you will get second march when you get gen 17

just 3 months

[violet garden]

Gen 16 is only 1 march. Our second is gen 12. With a 700% stat gap to the second marches of older states

[violet garden]

What state are you from?

[steel musk]

state with gen 11 🤣

[terse agate]

Great, the younger states will be burned by a F2P from an older state, since they only have one strong march that is out in a building 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[violet garden]

Congrats. In 6months they will let you go from gen 12 to 18

[violet garden]

😂

[woven spire]

1000 statss sill soon also get in pool

Just wait

They have bo choice cause everything dies to fast

[steel musk]

looking for that 🤣

[violet garden]

Maybe they should think long term and not throw one feature after another at us for fast money

[steel musk]

so there is bug on gen 13? what's wrong with those heros lol

[violet garden]

Nothing is wrong with them, they want all to have same gen for match making

[terse agate]

True, but if they would have made the newer states more competitive and did the hero gens skips smarter, then no harm done…..
The devs just can’t understand what they are causing, making this game die even faster

[winter canyon]

They could have slowed down the older states instead of making younger states skip 4 generations

[violet garden]

Yes!

[steel musk]

slowed down = they have time to max heros free lol

Devs : nope

[violet garden]

This happens when greedy people make decisions not the ones actually understanding the consequences

[winter canyon]

It's better than releasing 12 heroes at once!

[steel musk]

but new states will have less time ..

[violet garden]

I don't even think the devs are the issue. I'm dev myself and we are interested in finding bugs before releasing and want to balance things out.
But we can only do it, because we have a good manager, who isn't after fast money

[terse agate]

And since this was the reason they didn’t give extra materials, will they now give it to all the cross gen states? From 500 and up???

[steel musk]

but yup gen 15 / 16 stronger..
no need spend for gen 13 / 14 🤣

[terse agate]

Not anymore

[winter canyon]

F2P from young states are screwed... spenders from young states are screwed... what else is there to say🤷🏼‍♀️

[terse agate]

Gens 13, 14 and 15 all the stats of gen 15

[violet garden]

Dev math is, we put out more feature and people will spend more.
Reality is, many have an budget and those without feel used at one point

[winter canyon]

Not anymore

[steel musk]

they changed them?

[winter canyon]

When they will raise the stats for gen 13-14

[terse agate]

Yup

[terse agate]

When gen 16 is released

[violet garden]

Gen 13+14 will have same stats as gen 15 tomorrow. What makes it all even worse

[terse agate]

Yes

[steel musk]

it's dumb update

[terse agate]

Now see why the cross gen states are in an even worse position?

[steel musk]

by dumb manager

[violet garden]

That's why i sit here and desperately hope for saberlot to get here. So far it is talking to a wall

[terse agate]

All you’ll probably get as an answer is: 😩

🤣😂🤣

His go to emoji 🤣😂

[winter canyon]

It's one of the worst updates

[thorny plume]

What gen is maddie Nikola ? Are they 13 ?

[violet garden]

After behemoth

[terse agate]

For the younger states, the cross gen states

[thorny plume]

So that means I dont need need to finish Evelyn as shes utter crap, good good

[violet garden]

We have codi, lori and ram rn

[thorny plume]

😅 in Norway we say, en manns brød er en annen manns død

[terse agate]

And Ray’s place will give you way less gen 16 frags

[thorny plume]

Wasnt it 28?

[steel musk]

It's time to stop doing pz for Maddie lol

[thorny plume]

Maddie is great tough

[terse agate]

Another 💩update

[thorny plume]

28 is kinda poo

Very poo

[steel musk]

old states didn't get new Ray's yet.. they will this week

[terse agate]

Which we didn’t get the materials for

[thorny plume]

You can find it via searches

[violet garden]

Maybe not, when cr's state will get 18 after 12😂

[terse agate]

Same as us, we didn’t get the new either

[thorny plume]

Id its not broken

[terse agate]

Potions

[thorny plume]

Ah but Maddie uses new potions

Id build Maddie if they do it like they did on last update

That the crates also can give 10 potions each

[terse agate]

But we got Maddie together with gens 14 and 15

So, gen 15 WAS the strongest, soooo

[thorny plume]

Gen 15 was the trish gen ?

I still swear to my Maddie

[terse agate]

Gen 14

[thorny plume]

15 is Evelyn gen, she so bad.. mediocre at best

Need her at Ix Ix Ix before shes even close to useful

[terse agate]

But if we gotten those 3 months apart, then we would have had Maddie maxed

That’s what we keep saying 🥺

[thorny plume]

I understand, sometimes they screw some states next time they screw some other states

[violet garden]

Another solution would be, rise the stats of gen 12 too

[thorny plume]

Basicly what theyve been doing since I can remember

[terse agate]

Nope in this case my state keeps getting screwed, in so many ways already

Our whole state walks funny now, because of the devs

🤣😂🤣

[violet garden]

This gen jumping is the worst way to screw and make people frustrated

[thorny plume]

🤐 they dont even offer cigarettes

I usually like a cigarette after beeing prisonsexed

[terse agate]

Or take us out on a dinner first

[terse agate]

Yeah, we even asked for soap on a rope, so we wouldn’t drop it

[winter canyon]

So I guess we can probably get a mediocre first march after a few months if we upgrade Marcos from SvS/SotF and then pick Maddie and Nikola from the wheel

But most events need more than a single march

[violet garden]

Only current solution to that is to hold out and hope not too many stop playing out of frustration in the meantime

[steel musk]

the only thing i hope after all that.. I hope they know how to fix matchmaking as they think lol

[violet garden]

But maybe saberlot will come here and offer us some better solution. I think the mods abandoned this channel, but i don't dare to tag him again😆

[steel musk]

He's barely here.

[violet garden]

I know, that's why would like to tag him more and show him, he is needed. If he cares at all

[steel musk]

look at this
more than 1k? do you think devs care? it's almost useless post feedback report here

[violet garden]

I know, but staying silent isn't an option for me too. Because that will definitely not change anything

[terse agate]

Same!!!
Been asking for 13 weeks now, to mitigate choices the devs make, so ALL states are treated the same….
Whether it is a double merge (because the devs messed up the first one) or skipping gens….
The states in the same bracket needs to be given equal chances…

[steel musk]

they just looking for new way to get money

[terse agate]

Competitive matches make people buy more

[steel musk]

and others things not important for them

[steel musk]

yes

[terse agate]

That’s no fun, for either state

[violet garden]

They won't though. Most people have an budget

I don't spend more with new features. I only spend less on other things

[steel musk]

tbh they broke game when they added Behemoth

[violet garden]

People tried to warn them. It was obvious from PTR. They ignored this again

[steel musk]

maybe many spent for Behemoth but in same time many spenders quit

[terse agate]

The super whales don’t have a budget….
That’s the only group they are targeting….
BUT loose one it hurts them….
If they focused on the mid and low spenders, their revenue would be more stable…

[terse agate]

Yup

[violet garden]

Not few of them feel used though. And quit at one point

[terse agate]

No clue what the use is of PTR tho…..
Certainly not for testing purposes

[steel musk]

live states is test also now 😂

[terse agate]

I have seen quite a few quit already

[terse agate]

Yup

[violet garden]

Same. I see many quitting. And i understand it well.
Playing on a budget to not play their game and not jump when they want them to jump isn't working for the whales. They will fall behind and quit, because that is not how they want to play

[wide wraith]

its for the content creators to make videos

[terse agate]

I think that’s the only reason….
Saying it is a test server is a lie

[cloud ridge]

there's some bugs in your advertising 👀

@merry scroll / @feral sinew / @gray dragon | Thank you all for making the hero gen skipped states be at an even greater disadvantage now, for those who could progress gen 1 and 2 naturally they now have 3 marches including gen 15 heros which are just as strong as the skipped states main and for many only limitless march.

How are we expected to defend against 4 limitless marches once gen 16 comes out when we only can realistically upgrade 2 marches of limitless if that?

[terse agate]

And again the devs are thrilled, they are the ONLY ones thrilled….
And to make our gaming experience more challenging and fun??????
Challenging, YES!

• Challenging because of an awful update of Ray’s place….
• Challenging because of being in a cross gen state….. New Cross gen states are getting it even worse….
• Challenging because the devs make the game harder to play…
• Challenging, because the update will most likely be full of bugs..
• Challenging because the devs don’t listen to their players….

More fun???? No

[vapid forum]

Why does Lucky have some of Lady's Dumitrescu.... features?

[terse agate]

Did Lucky undergo surgery?????

Look at those b👀bs

And they tore up her shirt too

[vapid forum]

Seems perfectly normal for a pg13 game

[steel musk]

Also, they blew something else.

[vapid forum]

My bad, is pg16 on Google play now 😂

[terse agate]

Her arms are super skinny BTW…..🤔

[vapid forum]

All the graphics budget for the ad went towards more important things

[terse agate]

🤣😂🤣

[terse agate]

Well two things are nearly falling out ….
They should have invested in a good bra…..
Bra’s for that size are expensive…

[tame lintel]

Feedback:
Make rr/mm fun for all again.

Remove bohemoths from those events....

[violet garden]

Let me rewrite it:
Join the fight.
After you found friends, invested years in building up your account and spend money, we will screw you over.
Disclaimer: if you don't invest the price on an house, you will be only a small fish in a pool with whales.

[violet garden]

Or make behemoth much much more accessible and maxable for f2p at one point.

[tame lintel]

That would be 1 way. Making ape easier after dino is released etc etc..

But that may tap into their profits. So probably not gonna get threw their firewall of suggestions..
Where as mine doesn't.

[spark kindle]

I don't think it would be fair to make behemoths easily maxable after many people were forced to spend fortunes on them.

But I do think there should be events where individual stats or strength won't matter and it'll be based purely on tactics and strategy. Fixed marches/heroes without behemoths and aircrafts in survival royale, heist, pow will make the game more enjoyable for many people.

But they can't do it because some people will go crying/running to their gm's that the meanie f2p were outsmarting them, how dare

As happened with the original version pow and also why survival royale was tinkered with

[round garnet]

What I’m the actual crud is this rr matching today? It’s so messed up. 6 p8-10 vs 30 p10-13 should NEVER come close to a similar raid score.

[spark kindle]

They really should take into account the number of participants as well

[round garnet]

I mean i didn’t care about that with the score so close. We should have been much more powerful…. But that obviously is not the case. Their individual scores should have added up to at least 5x our score if they had 5x the people and bigger

[dim lagoon]

we experience this today as well,,,

[warm phoenix]

Imma already post this, you can also send upvote reaction to this post #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[stuck elbow]

Yup, happened to my alliance today in l2. 15vs30 and they had way stronger team, but same score as us

[fierce trail]

DId they f***the raid score again ? The opponent has waay stronger players, but somehow our raid score is higher?

Or does the trick with making heroes lvl1, removing tempest and hiding strong players as reservists work again..

Because this is not fun for both parties..

[stuck elbow]

It's just a guess, but people transfering states showed 0 raid score before registration finished. It shows normal now, but this maybe is a factor

[tame lintel]

I was just gonna say...$5 it's a bug affiliated with migration

[fierce trail]

.. :/

[tame lintel]

None of the super whale teams matched each other really this week.
Alot of changes makes devs computer not smart.

VAL vs FBI was only one.

[stuck elbow]

It didn't cross our mind to remove tempest. Might work

[tame lintel]

Lol. Or try cheating😅🤣

[fierce trail]

Yea, it boost transfer power so it might boost also raid score

[fallow lodge]

i think what my lady ment to say is even if we could we wouldnt. cheaters should be burned😂

[fierce trail]

When evryone else does it.. There is nothing else left than play dirty or lose every game

[tame lintel]

Every word you said....only ever comes from chumps.

If everyone else....🤣🤣

Act better

Walk your path

Not others

[fierce trail]

Try fighting max behemoth, when you have 2 gold rest purple .:/

Dude solo our rally...

[tame lintel]

I'd die fighting before I tried to cheat the system

Facts

[fallow lodge]

send him hairy noods, that will distract him🤣

[fierce trail]

might as well try

[stuck elbow]

Winning by cheating is not as rewarding. I rather lose with my head up

[tame lintel]

Sometimes. You lose. It's NEVER worth lowering your morals/level for a silly win...

And also

[keen narwhal]

come on add more stocks of SURVIVAL COIN we need it to draw on gashapon

[fierce trail]

We never done that, but this is just.. I need to vent.

[tame lintel]

That's alot of work🤣🤣🤣

[fierce trail]

Was about to say that :d