📋︱feedback-discussion

[muted charm]

but when a request is set on stone, even if 50% of the playerbase quit, they won't budge

[terse agate]

I am extremely frustrated, since they truly picked our state to keep bullying…
Again, if it was just one thing, but they actively beat us down, over and over again…..
I just want them to leave us alone so we can finally grow…
But each choice they make us actively targeting us.

[worldly sable]

So let people complain 🤓

[muted charm]

As I said before it hurts because it affects you and I get that, but it is not personal, you're just a number in a spreadsheet to them

[worldly sable]

What will your naysaying accomplish

[rich nacelle]

Same as your requests

Not a whole lot

[terse agate]

The devs don’t seem to see the effects of their previous choices, that spirals down in getting worse with each new feature….
And I must say we are one of the three special states.
Only three states in all those states in SoS…
Three states that got sacrificed, since they made a mistake (creating an odd number of states in a bracket).
Their fault and we are still paying…..

I just try to accomplish that if they decide to make a state special, to mitigate this choice….

[muted charm]

people only apply standards for others, it is rules for thee but not for me, this is usually more common to entitled and sheltered people, but to a certain degree we all do it

[rich nacelle]

Only thing that funplus recognizes is your wallet.

[muted charm]

Yeah it sucks, but as I said, you're just numbers in a spreadsheet, there is likely a reason why you're the sacrificial lambs

In some games they purposedly do that so the whales feel better about themselves beating up weaker opponents, there are even patents in some games for matchmaking algos for that

[rich nacelle]

I agree with most of what you’re saying. Guess it’s the way you are conveying it that may upset some. * I personally enjoy it. Straight talk

[muted charm]

It's the nature of the mobile game

[terse agate]

I actually asked for the reason, so we could try to avoid it….
Knowing (ofcourse) they could never give it🤣😂🤣😂

[muted charm]

People in general, feel first then want their feelings validated, when someone says anything that makes them feel invalidated they will be mad about it, even if you sugar coat it

[muted charm]

Knowing what I know about the industry? it's because your state doesn't spend as much

[unreal lichen]

#factsDontHaveFeelings

[stable cosmos]

Nor do the devs

[terse agate]

Some games??????
Definitely SoS 🤣😂🤣

[muted charm]

it's not just sos though

but yeah

[stable cosmos]

Sos is easily the worst ive experienced

[muted charm]

Companies don't have feelings, they have bank accounts in tax havens...

[still blade]

If anyone needs assistance in filling out feedback let me know. I'm here

[stable cosmos]

We're on a rant here

The only feedback I've got right now is i want to be allowed to swear

[digital glacier]

Ac buildings helps tremendously, also, a lot of releases that came out for s100, came out for s500 the same time. So in reality, s500 at this point in the game is far surpassing old states.

If you have 2 identical accounts one goes to state 100,the other goes to state 500.

If both players spend on identical packs.
Who will reach max level first?
State 500 hands down.

So, matching s100 vs 500 isn't a huge concern.
Matching s500 with s1000 is a big difference though, because they have the same game feature and state 1000 hasn't been out long enough to catch up.

[muted charm]

You see, there are 2 aspects on how players are seen in mobile games, they are either the ones that are driving revenue above a certain line and are considereds the ones that are "playing" the game, and the ones below that line are considered the ones that are "food" for those players

this include states... so whenever they have to make sacrifices especially as the games dies out to improve matchmaking

they will "target" the "food" states, to make the whales feel good about themselves

[woven spire]

The strongest players are in 500+ states

[terse agate]

I know, and we have extremely high spenders, but the game stops us from attracting more of them….

[woven spire]

• that extra year. We payed for packs 10000x less value

[digital glacier]

That too 🤣

[muted charm]

yeah, because it is an average

and they expect that your whales move to other states most likely

[stable cosmos]

Whales vs weak is how most of the matchmaking works. I just don't see how it drives revenue. Whale vs whale drives revenue as you have something to actually overtake

[muted charm]

Most people spend to feel better about themselves and stronger than others

[stable cosmos]

Whale vs minnow, the whale could stop spending now and the weak player will never catch up

[muted charm]

they won't admit here, but it is what research shows

[terse agate]

To benefit some of the dictator states????
Some of those states are good, but some are extremely bad…..

[worldly sable]

I’m just looking at intention. The intentions of most people here are to be heard by the developers.
What’s yours?

[muted charm]

I'm tired of self centered people trying to squeeze money of others in their bios which is something of a "questionable" moral value trying to imply others have bad moral values...

[muted charm]

Yeah, as I was mentioning a lot of those whales get a dopamine hit on being the ones calling the shots, and try to get peace in the state

others however just want to burn everything down

[unreal lichen]

sos team...any one here..

[muted charm]

no

[restive island]

[unreal lichen]

lhave bug in the game...need help

[muted charm]

Mods here are volunteers and the cms are not active at this time usually, you should contact player support

[terse agate]

Unless the people bow….
Then they spare….
Some have real issues in their RL I think 🤣😂🤣😂

[restive island]

What kind of bug are you experiencing?

[muted charm]

Most of them, yeah

usually they are compensating for something, or they are used to act like that IRL as well

[unreal lichen]

@muted charm which page..pls

[restive island]

Also I already see you're discussing the bug in bugs discussion with a co-mod, which is good! 🙂

[muted charm]

Can a mod help them on how to report in game? I think it will be the quickest way to get a response

[unreal lichen]

u are the good...

[terse agate]

If people continuously talk about themselves in the third person, they have issues 🤣😂🤣😂

[muted charm]

In some cases it is kinda valid

like during svs

a lot of people talking especially on discord it is more efficient to say in 3rd person

[terse agate]

Oh no, in a voice call with me🤣😂🤣😂

[muted charm]

regardless I hope you are feeling better, the situation won't change but feeling miserable won't help as well... do things that have a positive impact in your own life, if venting helps great if not it is what it is

the game holds power over you only if you let it

[restive island]

No worries, has most likely been resolved 🙂

[terse agate]

Meh, some cm’s and gm’s will receive another message soon….
I will keep trying to advocate states will be treated the same, now and in the future….😬🤣😂🤣😂

[terse agate]

True….
Most of all, I have fun with my friends

[muted charm]

Good luck, just keep in mind it won't have any results, if the chase makes you feel better go for it, but don't expect results

if you get results, great but, if you don't you're not frustrated

does that make sense?

[terse agate]

It does….
😘😘🤗🤗

[tropic wedge]

Im not losing stamina ... I dont think, we are accidentally running it right now

wow that is really pink

dalma... or snap are to thank

its using your stamina? i really dont think it is using mine

i have no idea how we launched ours... i dont think it was on purpose 😅 there are many buttons 🫣

[stable cosmos]

I guess if you build it without a scheduled time it auto kicks off?

Everything perfectly explained in game. Its fiiiiiine

[stoic elm]

whats best formation for the solo one, or is it just what's the best you have 😁

[tropic wedge]

I think we are still in the trial and error phase lol

[fervent wraith]

Is the biohunt alliance mode everyday? How is the cooldown time? Or is there any after?

[tropic wedge]

Cooldown looks like 3 days

[fervent wraith]

Oh so its like trap? Just 3 days cooldown.. Thanks😊

[tropic wedge]

I mean, very much trial and error, but we just accidentally ran ours and thats what our coundown timer now looks like

[stoic elm]

Fine prints says something about once a week, which is it 🤣 or does it just goes off cooldown and cant be used after til you get pass that one week.

[tame lintel]

It says weekly.. and week ends in 3 days. So get 1 done within 3 days. Prolly can do 2nd and maybe 3rd depending on how long event is

[stable cosmos]

Thats not a threat. They'll leave it hard so you pay money

[lavish heron]

This is ridiculous…. 1000 bios for 2k points… 1000hours for 1k points… makes no sense

[tame lintel]

Exact same items...to the T...
Different listed %..

I've never listened to those percentages before.. but damn devs...stop being so blatantly stupid to have them up at same time...

[worldly sable]

But they are stupid 🤷🏻‍♀️

[cloud ridge]

So people like me, who was forced to skip hero gens and didn't get time to develop gen 1 and 2 limitless heros like others so already at like 2 march worth of heros disadvantage.

Now am at an even further disadvantage cause they are just as strong but more likely stronger than my gen 15 march?

Yet saber had the audacity to advise not to focus on those gens as they'll be weaker and do to gen 15 and 16 as advised via devs

[stable cosmos]

While we're talking about dodgy bundles. And I'd never buy then but ... ouch. $9 for 2 relocators and some bios and vip?

[unreal lichen]

heeeelp

any mod around?

[tropic wedge]

Hiya Colthas, how can I help?

(still so pink )

[digital glacier]

It's a nice bright change. That's for sure.

Also. I need that bear sent to my dm. So I can keep it 👀

[tropic wedge]

i’m surprised. every time i write 🤣🤣

[digital glacier]

Yeeessss!

😘

[unreal lichen]

Hi sorry I was afk

We moved as alliance to another state but some members were still behind and collecting tickets, they joined other alliances meanwhile to not be tagless

But some SMART R4 there registered one of our members to RR without asking and even though she now has enough tickets, she's locked in the alliance...

Is there any way around this? She shouldn't be stuck over there away from us fo 3 months for something like this...

[keen narwhal]

ridiculous task

[tropic wedge]

I am so sorry, once you’re locked in you’re locked in. she can try raising the ticket with customer support. I can send you a DM about the best way to go about that but in all honesty likelihood is low that she will get unlocked before monday reset

[unreal lichen]

I gotta try, please send me that info, thanks

[tropic wedge]

i’m going to regret sending you that aren’t i 🤣

[digital glacier]

Well, you can always be proud of yourself knowing you helped, not hindered the cause.

[old oasis]

Far rather see a laughing bear than the other option

[keen narwhal]

???

what kind of task is this?

[old oasis]

Points for circuit breaker

[keen narwhal]

force to spend my plasma lol

[old oasis]

I would just use as per normal to build

I would spend unless you need to as plasma always in short supply

[tiny quiver]

Data chips not giving points in the event either

[old oasis]

In circuit?

[tiny quiver]

Yes

Upgraded system 2x not 1 point given…

Put in a in game ticket…but doubt anything will be done

[keen narwhal]

out of stock add more stock of survival coin for gashapon

[stable cosmos]

Unless you're keen on minmaxing the pearl store i would very much not stress about op festival

[tiny quiver]

Some in red potion too

[stable cosmos]

If you're a spender though, go nuts

[tiny quiver]

Pearl store great place to get COH

The crate has COH..I buy all I can ..to hard to get them for badges

[keen narwhal]

out of stock

[tiny quiver]

😔

Mine as well

[karmic pier]

Ok, my guy was at level 5 and he went back to 4
Anyone else have this happen

[old oasis]

Sorry grandma cherub I had to step away for a bit if you could also do a #🐞︱bug-reporting with your ticket number so our mods can chase it up

Azaa I can place some feedback for you in regards to out of stitch Gashpon voins

Azaa what state are you please

Here's the link please upvote #📋︱feedback-reporting message

Grandma cherub I have added you state to this as well since you ran out in red

[stone sleet]

Can someone explain me why one say 2700% and the other one 3400%? Both same rewards. Dev do random %?

[old oasis]

Fist of fury can you please do an in game report for this I will go check if any other discord reports for this

Mr V you are not the first please upvote the one I did earlier was for different bundles under the same bundle names #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[stone sleet]

Thanks

[old oasis]

Fist of Fury I cant see any other reports here on discord so would suggest you do a #🐞︱bug-reporting as well with the ticket number so our mods can chase it as well

[digital glacier]

If anyone has suggestions for actual f2p fun games. My dm are open to suggestions

Live server announcement. It's official.

[bold jewel]

did you figure that out?

Did you manage to figure out how to rotate buildings?

Is it possible to rotate decorations?

[stable cosmos]

No.

[bold jewel]

Frightening.

Thanks

[digital glacier]

I will give it some time to see how they decide to implement this. Most likely, it will not be in any way shape or form good for the environment.
I know I do not spend enough for state of survival to care about me as an individual, but this login streak is achieved by very very few players, and this one is coming to an end if this drastic change is not properly done.

[stone sleet]

1513 days here and when i saw their message, i just want a refund of my max generation 15

I have pay for something that can be understood/ stats, not for a skills that i didnt TEST before

[bold jewel]

what are they doing? Nerfing max VIP?

[stone sleet]

This

[digital glacier]

I want a refund for almost a years worth of rewards I lost.

Players who went for gen 13, essentially now have a free generation handed to them.
So while they were beating me on events due to stronger heroes and better research, they now will continue to beat me because they have equal stats of me but with more research completed. Thus. Making my work for generation 15 a complete waste of my life. .

[ruby delta]

gen 13/14 will have matched stats to gen 15

[digital glacier]

Yup. Already posted that.. 🙄 Looks the same. As mine 😱

[stone sleet]

He was asking about your vip 🤪

Hehe

[digital glacier]

Max vip got nerfed with limitless release. Because vip didn't upgrade rewards. Practically everything in vip is useless now 🤣 only useful thing I take from vip 12 is free swap talents 🤣 and the 6th match slot you get at vip 8 🤣 oh, those 12% stats or whatever is not even noticeable anymore with all these additions. Behemoths, airplane, tempest gear, red badge, red chief gear, etc etc etc.

[karmic pier]

So since I basically skipped gen 15 does that mean my maxed 14 gen gets nerfed

[digital glacier]

Anyhow. I hate to say I hope there's more people upset about this change and will quit than the few I've noticed talking about it today.
But too much stuff has been implemented / changed / re-released / redacted / in the past few months. This if poorly done (which is what I expect will be the case) will cause the vast majority of players to leave the game.

[digital glacier]

From the way they say things. It sounds like. Max stats for gen 13 14 15 will be the. Same number.

[karmic pier]

Ok

[digital glacier]

So. Basically, gen 13 gets a big boost, gen 14 gets a little boost, gen 15 gets nothing.

[bold jewel]

Thank you. Shame all your investment went to waste though 😦

[loud condor]

They break this game cycle in the name of easy lazy pools.
There's literally no point spending at the early stage anymore.

[digital glacier]

Yup. 2 years worth of backpack spent on gen 15, 😭just to have gen 13 stats be equal

[keen lake]

Does it ever seem like this is some sadistic experiment to see how much outrage they can create …

[loud condor]

Best advice years ago was to spend early and those become a good investment later on.
Now it's limitless spending just to float.

[karmic pier]

And I don’t understand the message that the resident evil crossover ends on the 30th when we can see 2 other characters from the game in hero challenges that haven’t even been unlocked

[loud condor]

No more Chris and the current RE theme after that day. It will be new stuff

[bold jewel]

How do you level up Chris after the event is over?

Or this is it?

Thx's for the heads up then -)

[digital glacier]

The Chris portion ends on the 30th

Basically everything RE part 1 CHRIS, ends.
And RE part 2, with ada or Leon begins

[karmic pier]

Like Joker you probably won’t be able to

[digital glacier]

Youll probably get the same message in about 30 days for part 2 to end

[stoic elm]

They could bring back the general resonate fragments after the whole RE event is over next year and have the RE people in there to convert but only after some time have passed.

[karmic pier]

Having to win Chris frags by chance really makes it a lot more expensive than buying packs
Probably why they didn’t offer packs

[zealous plover]

Anyone else noticed as a f2p you can’t maximize your reward for this event???

[jovial belfry]

Yeah I noticed that too, the tasks have a limit as well so you can only get so much during each phase

Would you like to add feedback on events like this?

[verbal slate]

I dint spend for gen 13&14, i only spend for gen 15. So it means i benefit in get free Gen13&14 with max power same of Gen 15?

[stable cosmos]

It would if you level them up. If they stay blue brain they won't match up

[stable cosmos]

This is kinda, every event? Almost. For spme reason f2p aren't allowed to finish things. Spenders can buy the other tracks to get a boost but god forbid f2p earn 2 plasma...

[tardy night]

Even better for some of us, told to work gen 7-12 limitless. Within 3 months. Then render them completely ineffective with Chris and Anjelica. Then bring out gen 13-15 which we will have to work on again.

And gen 12 will barely scratch gen 13.

So everyone reverts to hitting hq again I guess

[outer seal]

i wonder how devaluation of all wasted time and money for gen 15 enhances our strategy and significance? 😂

[verbal slate]

So i still need upgrade one by one? Just make it stat stronger like gen 15?😂

[outer seal]

it worth only to go for gen16 for those who want to compete. guess only for 3 months, as most probably devs will enhance your strategy and significance afterwards:)))

[verbal slate]

I got full red gen 15. I thought they gonna give me free for full red of gen 13&14😂😂😂

It might a chance for low spender to catch up alittle bit🤓

[steep geyser]

Evening. Hope you can help. Do we have any info on Bio Hunt Alliance Mode for the Resident Evil Collab event?

[tardy night]

You mean 3 marches they get killed on now rather than 1 ?

[outer seal]

i think most interesting question now is matchmaking, cause if they will balance gen 13-14 same as gen15 everyone who upgraded limitless of all gens are screwed very hard and will have no chances against those who skipped and will up gen16. after some point it might be better to start new account for big spenders and gave up everything they spent before

[tardy night]

Why no chance? Whoever skipped gen 13-15 would be hit at home ?

[verbal slate]

Spender cant stop. They need keep spend forward. So they will have gen 16 to screw gen 15 &below dont worry haha

[tardy night]

You get 3 marches to hit them at home now if they skipped.

[outer seal]

they will be matched with 2 players of similar power:) or 2 against 3 in better case

[wide wraith]

people are more interested in the hero gen announcement

[outer seal]

this is not a problem at all for those who keep pvp fit, we easily play cap from the base, being burned. it's very good to make kills, cause when you are burning, others don't see if attacks on you was successful or not and keep coming to die:)))

[wide wraith]

to be honest, who cares about that, i would rather know about the short term event as well

[steep geyser]

Clearly this Statement is incorrect as we have players enquiring about this event. Hence why we are trying to get info. Not all our players are spenders.

[wide wraith]

maybe is because no one actually knows what it involves,

[wide wraith]

i mean those in this discord

i have heard that its similar to trap but nothing confirmed

[hollow needle]

so is everyone who was not awake after reset or when bio hunt launched in a disantvantage with attempts now? 😌 lovely as always

[wide wraith]

of course, its another rigged event so that certain places have an advantage

[stable cosmos]

Lady d is just trap for special currency

Solo hit I'm not positive on. Did 5 attempts. 30 currency each time. It might get harder?

[vapid forum]

30 red stuff for every lvl?

[wide wraith]

yeah thats the solo but its the alliance event that their is nothing about

[stable cosmos]

Its trap. You get currency (the redstuff) for playing. The amount you get isn't super publicized but the mechanic is trap

[vapid forum]

30 per hit during the trap like mode, right?

Cause the solo levels give only 5 or 10 for me

[stable cosmos]

I got 30 per solo iirc. And 325 or something from trap

[vapid forum]

And of course, f2p can't even hit lvl 20

[stable cosmos]

Only hit twice. I got in late

[vapid forum]

Thx

[wide wraith]

the worst thing about the solo part is its time sensitive again

[vapid forum]

So there's no rallies?

[stable cosmos]

Alliance is trap. Exactly the same mechanic.

30 minutes of rallies. If you rally late its nothing. Its genuinely the same event. Solo is just a button in the events menu

[zealous plover]

I only got 10-20 🥹

[tardy night]

Was it available just prior to reset? Cuz some have attempts they can't possibly have unless double packs were purchased

Packs allow 2x3 - 6 attempts, peeps are way above the 11 they should get

Even accounting for the free chances given every few hours

[vapid forum]

There's 10 attempts available to be bought in the re coins store

60 coins for 1 attempt

[tardy night]

Ah

Thanks

[marble grove]

Please, give us more events with 1 try a week that only r4 can activate at 1 time slot...

So if you get an r4 who just clicks thinking THEY have 1 attempt and waste it for entire alliance

Also, does this mean if you didnt upgrade gen 15 you won't have good gen 13 and 14? Just like if you didnt get general gen 12 before completion?

[peak kernel]

Unfortunately, r4 enabled this without realizing it and there was very little participation and the remaining players did not receive any rewards. And like a trap, it is played again two days later. Is there any more nonsense left?

[stable cosmos]

3 days later. Actually, our cooldown was 2 days and 21 hours. Which is a weird value and may be related to end of week

[marble grove]

So, once a week as it last 7 days and event started mid week

[peak kernel]

What difference does it make, most of them haven't played it, it's an activity like a trap 😝

[marble grove]

Wait 2 weeks and another resonate hero

[peak kernel]

No, go to sleep😂

[marble grove]

And unable to get Chris after 😂 and gen 16 in a week

[peak kernel]

Don't worry, other heroes will come 😂

[marble grove]

Every 3 months still even though they take more to upgrade and don't actually give anything to ones who skipped gens to get to 15 😂

And by looks, if you didnt spend after skipping 2 gens, those 2 gens and gen 15 will be weak still 😂

Only upside is I still have 1.4k maddie frags 😂

[peak kernel]

It's always hard to keep up with the speed of the game, you either have to have a lot of money or rob a bank 😂😂😂

[steel musk]

can't even recycle it 👀

[peak kernel]

No way, maybe they will become valuable later😂

[marble grove]

Well I can complete "use legendary frags" for once since new hero types came in

[peak kernel]

Nobody does this, maybe we will sell them at auction😝

[marble grove]

As not spending potions on limitless

That's like 9k throwdown points 😂

[peak kernel]

The game has a lot of shortcomings, but the developers do not understand us

[marble grove]

They dont even understand their own game, why would like listen to us 😂

[peak kernel]

There are so many heroes on which one to spend those potions?

[marble grove]

Gen 16 now, not even worth 13,14 or 15 😂

[peak kernel]

Someone said I understand you, I think he didn't understand 😂😂

[marble grove]

2 of my friends have 1.6k + of potions for gen 16 as told them to skip 15 now 😂

[peak kernel]

They are all worthless 😝

[marble grove]

Limitless aka worthless/useless more like 😂

And devs reached their limit after 2 gens

[peak kernel]

Yes, you are right 😂 I will go and drink coffee, it is pointless to think about it

[stable cosmos]

It just turned into a new upgrade system after that. No more reuse of old heroes. Time to make new ones.

[terse agate]

It seems the devs love to weaken us

[loud olive]

yep.. same in our alliance...

[unreal lichen]

The collaboration will continue for another 2+ months. There is information about gold coins that they will be recycled. No about potions

[vale yoke]

I expect that any branded collab stuff will be recycled, but that some things could linger in the backpack for a bit.

[tidal apex]

Kinda dissapointed that there is no more of Chris minigames... Was expecting to see him piloting a helicopter firing at zombie crows this week and next one riding a boat while avoiding mutated dolphins

Maybe next time

[unreal lichen]

There is information that it will be processed into useless

No information...

I'm talking about this one

[tidal apex]

I would not risk it, propably all of it will go poof when Chris part of collab ends

[vale yoke]

Yup, and I still have stuff in my backpack from two or three years ago which also doesn't say anything about being recycled, but hasn't been able to be used since its first run. Doesn't mean anything

[unreal lichen]

😂 The smell of deception

[vale yoke]

Welcome to SoS. Kinda smells like tomato soup

Lol

[tidal apex]

They hate it when players hoard stuff, thats why now most events recycle currency after they ends. Doubt collab will be different

[unreal lichen]

That's the problem... F2p and a small payer cannot save up for good rewards 😬

Infuriating 😂

[tidal apex]

At least lucky cards are still hoardable :p always saving to have enough for full clear before taking part in it

[unreal lichen]

Likewise

[tidal apex]

And also waiting for a board with x2 and x3 so I can curse a lot when I get x5 and there is only speedup and plasma left :p Did not get plasma...

[vale yoke]

This backpack is so sad lol

[unreal lichen]

Operation festival 😂 Eats a lot

[vale yoke]

Not really, it made a dent, but I hoard

Plus I budget, so every day is a set amount of stuff I can use and not exceed, so I have a surplus for the next time I might need stuff

[unreal lichen]

Only migo and top 20 now allow you to take a full set of skins. Well, in the SvS troops in 0 but enter the top 10 😂

[vale yoke]

I'm not worried about skins, never have been.

For others who want to be competitive, yeah, I care, but for myself and my accounts? Not so much, mediocrity is my friend.

[unreal lichen]

It was my mistake at the first headquarters and staff... At this headquarters I focused on appearances from the very beginning, yes, I am an average payer, but it helped a lot 😉

[vale yoke]

I've been playing my way for nearly four years, in direct opposition to how the devs want us to be playing. Lol

[unreal lichen]

Fun or results... everything from the approach to the game

[vale yoke]

Literally said to my alliance, "this is a pay to win game, and they don't want you to save things up. Do it anyway. Don't spend unless you see something shiny you like."

[tame lintel]

I watched a f2p member get 230mill points last svs this way...😎😎

[vale yoke]

Yup

[tame lintel]

I cant do it.. everything is shinny to me

[unreal lichen]

There are many factors, from the enemy to your own experience and desire. You can stick a strong tank into yourself and Park in the middle of the union... Let them kill themselves 😂

[tame lintel]

🤔

In warfare maybe??😅

[vale yoke]

Lol

I was like, "aren't we talking Prep specifically?"

[tame lintel]

But

He isn't wrong!!!🤣🤣

[vale yoke]

Right?! Lol

[plucky meadow]

There is very few resident evil normal token is there in this week of resident evil’s task.

Killing the game more

[tardy night]

Reins don't work anymore 🤔

[vale yoke]

Ugh, no one click that

<@&628563208164081690>

Sorry for the tag, but we got a live one here

Thanks!

[peak apex]

Ty liannin

[vale yoke]

[tardy night]

The noodles

[vale yoke]

Anything for you, Shrimp

[digital glacier]

Those items are in the store that ends in like 12 days I think. Honestly, with the way sos is moving these past few months
Its pretty much a use it or lose it kind of game.

[polar osprey]

Why can't they just match 5 even v5 even for solo pow?

Yeah I'm saying F the big player 😂

[woven spire]

Do you have big players in alliance?😂

But its sos that why

They cant even match teams vs teams

[polar osprey]

I mean for solo

[woven spire]

Ye they cant match anything

Pow is just a lottery if you play solo

[polar osprey]

But yeah we do have big player, and it's funny another player keeps ranting at little player who doesn't show up for RR...like that matters 😂😂

[woven spire]

You either match with weak people vs stronger or whats worst. You match with weak braindead people

[polar osprey]

No usually each team has strong player...but sometimes yeah one is very strong nothing can be done then, Would be better to just end match.

But yeah you at Mercy if they know what they doing

My original q still stands either way

[vale yoke]

Well how else will the game create a sense of not being good enough in some people in order to promote spending as a quick method of growth in order to win intentionally stacked, unevenly matched events?
You think the company knows it's only going to hurt their revenue?

[polar osprey]

Objection, leading question your honour

You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!!!

[vale yoke]

I'll allow it. I will remind myself to get to the point quickly, or be found in contempt.

[tardy night]

Needs to be posted more often

[vale yoke]

The company knows that their matchmaking is uneven, and they know it will create a sense of unworthiness or weakness in some players, which will promote those players spending. They know it doesn't help their revenue stream, as well, but even an unreliable source of income is better than no income.
They're out of touch with their players, have unrealistic expectations for the post-pandemic economy, and have no clue how to generate revenue otherwise.

Have they even had an original idea since, like, 2017?

[tardy night]

Considering it's purportedly a reskin of a game from 2010 ...😂

[vale yoke]

Bahahahaha

[tardy night]

Is it still an advertisement to another game if the game doesn't exist anywhere in the world anymore mods

[stiff ether]

It‘s missing bundle advertisements on 2/3 of the screen

[polar osprey]

I think I'm just gonna upgrade my skill Shrugging to max, then 'Meh' skill.

Cause yeah there not much point playing when matchmaking and RR times etc just get worse n worse

I'm buying less not more, cause what the point?

[woven spire]

Its either buy or quit

You useless if you dont buy for the company

[vale yoke]

Actually, Prometheus, you might be able to help. Should I drop points into "Nonchalance" and wait to upgrade "Belligerent Consumer", or just split points evenly?

[polar osprey]

But I just pay like subscription, I don't gamble much outside game either

[worldly sable]

People found this fun?

[marble grove]

I found it fun to spin 261 times for first 5 frags drop

[marble grove]

It's fine they are allowed to advertise fake stuff... noone bats an eyelid

[woven spire]

Annivarsary was also fun

They said

[worldly sable]

🥹 fun for who?

[woven spire]

Yhem

Them

[pallid willow]

If is currently 1d-10hrs on transfer event it still ends in that time or does it has the trash 24hrs of nothing?

[mighty gorge]

I only have 11400 more vials to get until the HQ skin 😂

[digital glacier]

Test with alt. I'm already working on it. Delete please

Don't need them changing it if this is the case 🤣

[mighty gorge]

2d 10h cooldown if you're talking about the trap'esque lady

[keen narwhal]

need more stocks

[mighty gorge]

It's the same people that join the live streams and leave super positive Google and Apple store reviews.

[zealous plover]

48hrs ban on this player

[keen narwhal]

damn why did they change the rays place on gen 16

[candid crag]

This task is hard to complete… plasma speed up give very less point to complete the task until nightmare level

How many plasma you need to spend to complete the task?

6000 plasma?

[digital glacier]

1 plasma 2 points so 125 finishes that difficulty task 🤣

[candid crag]

I spend almost 1K plasma already

Still not yet

I complete the damn journey to glory plasma task already… still in easy level

Im sure this task is something wrong… dev mathematics failed

Dev think spend 1K plasma is easy things to do

[winter canyon]

They give way too little points for plasma/speedups

[winter canyon]

200 hours speedups isn't even enough for a single reward

[candid crag]

Yeah someone reported it already

[winter canyon]

At least should've increase the speedup rewards by 10x... cause using 7500 hours of speedups is ridiculous

[candid crag]

I should skip this task

This task is beyond crazy

[winter canyon]

No one has that amount of speedups unless you are willing to pour like $500-1k on a single day

[candid crag]

I better buy chip bundles

Rather buy speed up for this stupid idiot task

[winter canyon]

Exactly

Spending like $500-1k to get 40 chips and 200 pearls when you could've gotten the same amount of chips/pearls for $15🤣

[candid crag]

Dev Mathematics Failed

MoD is sleeping

Zzzzzz

[winter canyon]

Or spend $50-200 on lucky cards depending on your luck

Just to complete the operation tasks for today

But F2P are screwed because there is no way to get that much stuff without saving for 6 months... and I doubt anyone will use all their savings for 40 chips and 200 pearls unless there's effortless progress as well

But no effortless progress for speedups🤣

[peak kernel]

too many messages 😂

[strong grove]

What is a better formation for bio hunt ?

[winter canyon]

For solo I'm using equal

[pallid willow]

So transfer ends today or tomorrow?

[winter canyon]

Didn't bother setting

[strong grove]

Its ok🙂

[winter canyon]

I would guess something like 5/1/4, 6/1/3 or 6/2/2 if you get to the harder levels

[candid crag]

What state are you from?

[winter canyon]

Whatever works best for you on dino intel

[zealous plover]

Behemoth intel tho can’t pass lv113 over 1month 😭😭

[candid crag]

How much is your BTP?

[winter canyon]

What generation heroes?

[candid crag]

You need around 1,2 Billion Battle troops power for level 120

[strong grove]

Use all buff. Example massive March 🙈

[zealous plover]

Conor gen
March bp 715m 🤣

P9

All t12s

[candid crag]

Ah no wonder Just do some research plasma lab

[winter canyon]

Got past lvl 124 with 1 billion march bp

But been stuck at lvl 125 for 2 weeks

[zealous plover]

My research isn’t bad 🙊

[candid crag]

With last migo buff yeah

Im at level 129

Stuck at that level

[strong grove]

Do you have plasma changer 😬

[winter canyon]

Stats?

[candid crag]

Aircraft behemoth etc

Upgrade that also

Do whatever increases your BTP

March capacity

[zealous plover]

F2P 2k+

[zealous plover]

200k+

[candid crag]

Thats not enough

[zealous plover]

When we had migo over 280k still nothing

[candid crag]

Rally enchancement also

Upgrade capacity

[zealous plover]

Maxed all solo enchantment

[candid crag]

Not solo

The march capacity

Plasma level 8 and 10 research

[zealous plover]

Yeah maxed that too remaining the last set

[candid crag]

If you complete plasma level 8 research must be easy until level 125

[winter canyon]

I'm 1300 infantry 1200 hunter 1150 rider and passed lvl 124

[zealous plover]

What gen of heroes?

🥹

[winter canyon]

12

I use Kyle, Joker and Codi

[zealous plover]

What formation? Let me try something different

[winter canyon]

I get best results with 5/1/4 ratio

[digital glacier]

I only have a few p8 research and I'm 123 I think 🤣 my behemoths died before theirs. 0-0 report. Migo end. Lost those 64% buffs. Not it's like. I lost be 3k troops 🤣

I like my 6-1-3

[prime hound]

I had most luck with 50/20/30

but i pretty much use behemoth formation unless I loose and it is close, and think I might kill it with a different formation

[tardy night]

Use chloe, Kira and connor.

[digital glacier]

I use Behemoth formation I lose by like 8k 🤣

[winter canyon]

6/2/2?

[digital glacier]

Lioness deleted the comment 🤔
Someone posted they do 6-2-2 Behemoth formation, if it's close, then they actually try 🤣

Its why I said what I said. I don't use it to actually try to progress levels 🙄

[lavish heron]

Anyone sure about migo coming in 2weeks??

[worldly sable]

I hope next week, I'm bored

[tardy night]

Yeah. Cuz they won't release heroes without Migo cycle following up. And Migo is in ptr too 🤔

[zealous plover]

Both heroes 1 star ⭐️

[tardy night]

Then wait for new gen. P9 t12 is not enough, gotta play with skills

If you got Chris up in skills, could try with him.

[worn dew]

Hello it’s me

I have a question

I am truly starting to question the intellectual capability of players in the game

If you use a 3rd party that is not approved your account can be banned. Why is this a hard concept to understand

Stop reading the propaganda! Stop listening to those who tell you it is safe but are the very people making money off your purchase. Stop complaining. It truly goes no where.

[winter canyon]

Do you have Joker?

[white turret]

Hi I haven’t updated my game yet. Is this normal?

For POW

[winter canyon]

Looks normal to me

[white turret]

My friends looks different

She can use both behemoths

[tardy night]

Why's your heli on second skill

Update game

[white turret]

Yeah I need to update and it was just a ss I keep it on first

[tardy night]

After update you can save both

[white turret]

So this whole time I’m going against people with both behemoths?😂😂

I’m still crushing people it’s so funny

[tardy night]

You might be matching others who haven't saved either. March needs to be manually saved with 2

[white turret]

Well that would make sense I guess

But also idk. I’ve gone against people who have destroyed me

[craggy haven]

it's visual bug... click on t-rex and you will be able to see both behe..

[white turret]

Clicked it and it won’t select both but maybe your right

[winter canyon]

Path of Water can be really unfair

Sometimes you run into lvl 200 behemoth and do less than 10% damage

It's otherwise a good event

[lavish heron]

Play the game and they can both show in the reports

[lavish heron]

My everyday pow… just finished one where one player could defeat us all with one March

[white turret]

I need to update the game smh

No way that’s crazy

[lavish heron]

Yeah try to update I guess

[winter canyon]

Lol we have the same behemoth level

And mine is also purple with 4 max skills😄

[white turret]

Wow haha what are the chances

[white turret]

I don’t have the 4th skill maxed unfortunately. I have 3 of the main skills maxed tho

[white turret]

Yeah I need to update it no wonder I haven’t been doing the best in pow

[full pivot]

Wait, there are 3rd parties you can buy bundles from, what's the message about in the newsfeed?

[prime hound]

Buying from any 3rd party violates SOS TOS

[full pivot]

only around 20 people have been banned, and even then we're not sure if they are real people or if funplus are just trying to scare people

i don't know anyone who has been banned, including account sharing, gifting, trading etc. and we all know it goes on

let's put it another way, they have had months to fix the issues in AH, KOTH and MM, but the problems still persists. You really think they can find people who use a 3rd party vendor? Don't make me laugh, they can't develop themselves out of a wet paper bag

[peak apex]

Adding to my co mod, please be mindful that the discussion of things that break the terms of service is not permitted in the server

[ancient stratus]

best one?

[normal peak]

Neither

[mighty gorge]

If you have gems, there is very little in that store of value. The skins offer up nothing in the way of stats, and frankly the event skin is just shy of being a phallic symbol, simply missing the vertical up and down motion.

At a push, and I'm looking at the same, I'm weighing up the Rock N Shark or the Tempest Crate

[dusk cave]

I can never figure out where to leave suggestions.....King of the Hill or any event that requires us selecting multiple times.
Some already do let you put them in order of top 3, but King of the Hill doesn't. We need to put our time choices in order we want and what works best for the alliance and those who actually can show up for events .

[thorny sparrow]

@gloomy blade can we get a new SVS matching system, where states get to pick their opponents, maybe model it after the alliance duel format?

[thorny sparrow]

@ocean slate @polar orbit @prime hound @silent tree @ocean slate

[strong grove]

Wtf 😱

How much

[polar orbit]

If you want you can always submit a feedback report suggesting this wish. In #📋︱feedback-how-to you can reread right format for this. If you need help with this you can DM me 😺

[exotic wasp]

no need, Because in this way you will attack the weak states under the scope of 6 states. Be strong and confront the states that are as strong as you, or demand a close match system

[thorny hornet]

it would be nice if they adjusted the z-Index of the distance from home settlement in the wild. it is always covered up by other stuff on the screen. let's get it on top of everything else

[vague shoal]

It’s nice they made gens 13-15 same power. If only I had gen 13, but wait our group of states skipped it…

And I skipped gen 14 voluntarily to save for 15…

[jade mesa]

The issue with cross gen states has been brought up many many many times ... these states had GEN 7 to 12 changed to limitless in one go ... 3 months later Gen 13 14 and 15 (3 generations of heroes) were released AT ONE TIME ... With Cross Gen States having no time to catch up the development of these heroes that older states had upwards of 6-9 months to max out ... There have been multiple messages from multiple highly respected players with thousands of upvotes from these states ... and SOS promised to take action .. not only have they failed to do what they promised they said it was "Not Very Necessary or Beneficial to Forster these heroes" as the new Gen 15 and 16 were "way stronger" ... Now they have now announced that Gen 13 and 14 are to be made EQUAL TO GEN 15 ... THE SOLUTION IS SO SIMPLE ... In Cross gen states Transfer Gen 13 and 14 hero rank to reflect that same rank as Limitless .. It has already been done with Gen 7 to 12 ... For Example: Lori"s rank was transferred to the equivalent Limitless rank when the change was made ... It has already been done .. so do it with GEN 13 and 14 in cross Gen States ... the solution is so easy

[wide wraith]

what about those who still have Gen 12 to get guess thats all we will have next

[jade mesa]

the only heros any of the F2P or low spenders would have maxed anyway is Nikolai and Maddie .. so whats the big deal?

[jade mesa]

If we dont sort this out .. at some point you will have the same issue when they make your group of states cross gen to catch up ... Help us .. it will help you in the long term

[tardy night]

We will be getting gen skip after 12 to gen 16

[wide wraith]

yeah i know but those of us in the forgotten states want to know as well

[jade mesa]

no "skips" you will get them all at once like we did

[tardy night]

They either do a gen skip for us, or they release all 3 gens together. It isn't much of a rock paper scissors when we can't deploy the paper or scissors for 6 months

[wide wraith]

so 4 gens all at once

[tardy night]

That's the skip. You guys never got 13-14😂

[midnight quiver]

Can they remove the leading state Limit on this

[tardy night]

Technically 9. 7-12 is nowhere near completion for 90% of players. And most will not know enough of the game to be able to immediately decide what to leave working on and what to max out. Which seems to be the intent.

[jade mesa]

yes .. unless we can get together and make devs listen

[stable cosmos]

7-12 can't be developed further anyway. No capsules. Limited potions are expensive and extremely hard to get. Dead heroes. Everything has to be 13+ really

[raw breach]

This event is stupid. If u set a timer. It should block from opening. One r4 had a child open it. Now everyone missed it

[wide wraith]

actually it looks like your alliance changed the time to tomorrow

[raw breach]

We did

But r4 kid opened the game and opened it right now

Which should not work if u set a timer

[wide wraith]

they they should be removed as an R4

[raw breach]

Now everyone missed it.

Maybe developers should test things before release something. Demoting someone cuz game is broken is no go

[wide wraith]

we the Devs dont know the meaning of the word test

[terse agate]

The devs prefer to ignore the cross gen states and make them cannon fodder for the older states….
It seems that the older states are more eligible to play then the cross gen states….

[terse agate]

This however does ensure more cross gen states need to be made at a more rapid speed each time, since the current cross gen states will be dead faster

Such a brilliant technique the devs use, hunt away the players, it is the smartest way to keep the revenue

[terse agate]

@merry scroll will the devs EVER see this issue????

[wide wraith]

they know, just dont care

[tame lintel]

They know,
They care,
But they are using it for max profit over longevity/sustainability/gamer satisfaction....😅

[hot falcon]

Can SOS add like a secretary to the Gov so they have access to Gov duties? 👀

[still blade]

That's actually a great idea! I reccomend you put that here #📋︱feedback-reporting using the format #📋︱feedback-how-to

Or let me know and I can help

[hot falcon]

Done! Thank you!!

If I need to fix anything please let me know

[still blade]

It looks great! You're welcome and thanks for posting it. I'm going to add the link here so others can upvote it #📋︱feedback-reporting message

I'm sure many would like the idea of the Governor having a Secrtary or something similar that they can appoint.

[unreal lichen]

the push the button event :)))

[deft arch]

So the devs aren’t ever going to change these ludicrous prices I take it

4,000 for a re-roll is an absolute joke

[fierce trail]

You can only wish 🙂

[deft arch]

Change the price for re-rolls

Change the price for re-rolls

[versed spindle]

Where are the mods now…

[cosmic tulip]

Well there not wrong 😂

[tropic wedge]

Hi y’all, please keep spam in the can 🙏🏻

Okie so we are feeding back that we want a change in price for re-rolls yes?

For the tempest arms skills, let me try and write something up really quick

[unreal lichen]

To get another common skill too. Lol

[tropic wedge]

Agreed. I think I saw someone breakdown the price too if it was money instead of whatever that currency is and it was crazy. gimme just a min while i find a keyboard

Okie i posted something to feedback reporting, Please head over and upvote.
annnd I still cant get over how pink i am

[feral heath]

This pink you definetly cant miss

[ancient kayak]

I like the pink 🤣

[feral heath]

Jini we have now almost the same colour

[versed spindle]

Actually sad for hard working mods

[stable cosmos]

I don't disagree with this statement but we've mostly been playing older states, and winning. With the exception of facing FBI. Rarely have we met with anyone in the 500 range.

[feral heath]

I do like the colour

[feral heath]

I faced the same. States in our range were harder to beat thn some older ones

[worldly sable]

Yup

[violet garden]

Are you kidding me. States with currently gen 12 will get gen 16?!

Upgrading heroes is hard. Yeah well we have now 12 we should or when we face older states in events, and we will, we will struggle massively because our marches 2, 3 and 4 will suck

Do you want to kill younger states?

[winter canyon]

What generation is this hero?

[violet garden]

16

You have same issue. I'm from 701

[winter canyon]

He has almost 1000 more stats than my current gen

[violet garden]

Yes, it is ridiculous

[unreal lichen]

hey Sunny, I agree, you can leave some feedback and suggestions here: https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606

[violet garden]

When did this ever help?

We will have to make best out of the situation and live with it or quit. Those are the only real options we have.

[winter canyon]

It's ridiculous... if they are going to match us with older states, we are going to get crushed because they have had so much more time to upgrade their stuff

[violet garden]

Exactly and only reason they do this

[winter canyon]

F2Ps in old states probably have full plasma research and over 1300-1400 stats for all troop types... and that's only comparing the main march

I'm not even going to mention the 2nd-4th marches that we won't be able to have lol

[stable cosmos]

You will have to be facing sub 200 for the research bit

[worldly sable]

I like this, let me buy more 😂

[winter canyon]

It's just stupid to jump generations like this... we will be so weak compared to the state 100-400s

[violet garden]

You would expect them to look for ways to keep player. But one feature after another, one ridiculous decision after another. They loose their spenders one after another.

[tame jackal]

In my account you can buy if you want 😝

[violet garden]

You remember when we used to be matched with older states in RR and it was farm alliances 😂

[winter canyon]

If their farms are at the same strength as our main accounts, imagine what will happen if we meet their mains in SvS🤣

[violet garden]

701 won't, we are weak and if, i will just bubble and enjoy my day😌

[winter canyon]

Let's just stay under the bubble if that happens

[sick ledge]

16

[static hatch]

Welcome to the club, we had that a few months ago

[pine tree]

So you have to recycle basically 320 legendary to get 100 frags for a essence,are you freaking kidding me?

[sick ledge]

no they need money so 🤷‍♂️

[pine tree]

yeah and you can only recycle 5 at at time in a period so obviously you still gonna have to buy bundles soon

[sick ledge]

ofc always buy

[pine tree]

that what it is,its even impossible to recycle that many in 2 years..lol..such deception by the Devs

[sick ledge]

🤷‍♂️

[torpid gazelle]

Does anybody know if the bio hunt solo attempts reset everyday?

[quaint acorn]

Every 4 hours you get a new chance

[torpid gazelle]

I’m asking about how it says we will get 5 attempts per day. To me that would imply a reset of five everyday. Am I reading rules wrong?

[dense lance]

it says 5 per day but it doesn't say anything about how those 5 chances come, and they don't appear to be resetting, no

well other than that they regenerate over time, which is accurate

[torpid gazelle]

I guess put another notch in the belt of the devs not being entirely clear on something.

[pine tree]

they just want you to buy the 3-99 cents a day

[torpid gazelle]

I’ve gone F2P until they fix all bugs as a priority over releasing new content.

[stable cosmos]

No, there is no reset. I had 3 available when i logged in post reset. You just get a max of 5 available

I'm finding tempest arms easy enough to ignore. Its so bad as a mechanic they will probably replace it in a couple months with something that works, will put in effort then

[tidal apex]

Is this a joke?

4 points per legendary TA mold?

Do they realise there is for now only survival royale that rewards those and we can buy whole 10 legendary molds per 2 weeks only?

You would need to save up for years just to get through one day of operation festival on them 🤣

20 pieces per month, so 80 operation festival points

960 points after one year of saving

And we need how many to reach nightmare? 5000?

Please assign realistic point values to materials that are impossible to obtain in vast quantities or actually allow us to get way more of said materials than we can get now.

[candid crag]

This game is insane..

Many players quit now

I will quit this game now also

Time to leave this server

[keen narwhal]

where do you get that?

[blissful merlin]

This is the new Warm Thanksgiving bundles

[blissful merlin]

So I was thinking of taking my worst legendary pieces and recycling them, but then I was like no I’ll just stick with them.

[normal nacelle]

11.13.23 pack was 3500% and this week its 3800% same pack lol False or misleading representations and deceptive marketing practices - and it not even consistent

[stable cosmos]

You'll probably get more overall value from them on existing marches than you will for cutting them into quarters for the chance at some items

[blissful merlin]

Yeah plus I have put a lot of time into upgrading each one, I have each at a certain level til I get more to upgrade them. I was like nooo I’ll keep them, don’t need anything that badly

[tidal apex]

Also seems like they repaired free chris gacha rng some time ago. Yesterday and today got 1 frag while all days before that nothing...

[blissful merlin]

I feel like they are making him more available since this will be the only event we can get him/fragments from.

[tidal apex]

And total chance at getting chris frag according to their rates is around 34-5% I think? So not getting any frags for more than 14 days is as propable as dying to lightning strike 😒

[blissful merlin]

So I just do the free daily spin and most of them I get 1chris fragment. Not to bad.

[tidal apex]

I am missing 50 frags to 4* him, waiting till near end of the event to decide if I will be getting 80 spins from collab red and amber shops. Most likely will ignore the hero because to make him usefull would need to unlock at least one skill, just being 4* is not enough, so another 50 fragments, 100 total :/

100 frags in 80 spins seem highly unlikely unless I land a jackpot

[tardy night]

Wait. What? You guys got gen skip as well?

[tame jackal]

skipping 4 generations lol

[dense lance]

looks like a lot are finishing up 12 and going straight to 16

[tardy night]

@merry scroll you guys have got to be kidding. Gen 7-12 limitless was implemented 3.5 months back. You expect players to skip 9 generations?

[stable cosmos]

We established that in the first week the free spins were only giving common prizes. Interestingly saberlot got involved on this one and it started doing all the options within 2 days.

[tardy night]

9. 7-12 was not completed by anyone who didn't drop 20k.

Most heroes were nerfed with the change to limitless, even if at general rank

[tidal apex]

They keep on changing things up... There is no clear plan, no direction to develop on, they change things up on day by day basis....

[tardy night]

Hank, Laura etc? Turned completely into crap. Derek, Arthur etc, they made unavailable apart from hero searches.

They just feeding us to older states

[digital glacier]

Que : another one bites the dust.

[digital glacier]

My state I can only get gen 12 through searched 🤣

[fringe shadow]

Yeah I'm pretty sure they got our complaints. I think a few days ago I got 1 chris frag on the free spins on all 6 of my accounts. And prior to that nothing at all in the past few weeks for all of them. 😆

[coral fable]

The brawler is giving Hunter stats now.
Honestly, it's KGs intense attention to detail and their unwavering commitment to fully testing their new features that keep me in this game.
I, for one, never feel like KG let's me down.

[tidal apex]

They decided gen 12 was not needed :p too bad some time later they also decided that gen 12 will become as strong as gen 15 🤣

[fringe shadow]

I think if you're not going to spend a lot on Chris, you should do up to 150 spins for the milestone with 20 frags. The next one is 300 spins for 35 frags miletone, is a bit hard to reach without spending a lot. I'm at 250 spins after clearing out all the Survival Coins from the orange and red potions in the shop. If I want to reach 300 spins, I will need to buy 50 more coins 😅

[digital glacier]

I just mad I wasted my stuff for gen 15 when gen 16 rays place got tons of heroes from multi generations.

Really sad the 13 getting free boost to 15.

And 14 to 15.

What's the point of me getting gen 15 😒

What's the point of playing anymore

[tidal apex]

Yes but reaching 150 spins just to reach it and still not have enough frags is pointless so will propably not spin at all

Unless we get some more free spins

On last week

[digital glacier]

Seriously. Gen 16 + angelica = slaughter.
Its like throwing a bundle of dynamite into a chicken farm. There might be one that survives, but they will be so battered and bruised, they will be easy to kill with a piece of grain 🤣

[fringe shadow]

That's true..since you want the 50 frags to unlock limitless..which will be total of 160+50 frags needed right? I got my 210 after 230/240 spins.

[fringe shadow]

is there info on gen 16 already?? how much more stats do they have?

[tropic echo]

My friend just showed me , it is most likely sod stupidity as usual

[digital glacier]

I didn't focus to much on that 🤣

Just 2707 🤣

[coral fable]

The existential crisis this game gives us.

[fringe shadow]

what is max gen 15 stats?

[tropic echo]

No point whatsoever except as a social platform

[digital glacier]

2417.22

Yeah. So afkn 289.78% higher stats if I only waited 3 months, I could have 4 generations worth of heroes 😒
RIGHT now I have about 80 pending messages to customer support 🤣

[stable cosmos]

300%? This is always their problem and its why the gap is so big. It doesn't have to be 300% to make a difference. Morale is 10% and that makes a difference. Heroes could max out around the same level

It just has to be better, it doesn't have to be better at level 1

[fringe shadow]

Wait....This guy, Marcos isn't the Brawler right, they just got the class symbol wrong? Lol, it wouldn't make sense for the Samurai guy to be the Hunter...🤣

[coral fable]

It's probably easier to ask what KG does correctly 😂

[fringe shadow]

Wow...that's a 300% stat diff. Does that mean we should only work on gen 16 when they come then?

[stable cosmos]

Funplus now more than kg

As for what they do correctly.... umm, yeah. No good answer for that, they don't even charge money correctly

[fringe shadow]

Everthing is just so wrong in that screenshot..and yet they just release it on live servers. 🤦‍♀️

[digital glacier]

Well. Maybe in 9 months they will get a free be 600% stat boost since gen 13 getting nearly 500% free boost 🤷

1926.99% > 2417.22%
So, at the same rate of increase, come generation 18 the stats will be
2707% > 3395.66

[fringe shadow]

Right....so they're just doing everything they can to prevent anyone from skipping any heroes if they want to stay competitive. 😔

[keen narwhal]

does this equal stats works per hero?

i mean they will match the highest stats of your hero?

[tardy night]

Lol except for the states marked as fodder country. They don't get to work on the heroes at all, straight up fed to the slaughterhouse

Get one March out, and it's gen 16 hitting a gen 12 wall. Rip

A gen 12 that 90% of the players would not have worked on enough.

Cuz they were given gen 7-12 together to complete

[keen narwhal]

how does this equal stats work?

what does it mean?

[tardy night]

Your general rank Maddie has same stats as general rank rider of gen 15

Scaled up to equivalent rank of last gen. Then they sneak in some skill nerfs

100% gonna happen. Chance based heroes of gen 16 won't sell otherwise. Give it a week or 2 before it's done

[keen narwhal]

so my gen 13 and 14 will have 2400% stats?

[stable cosmos]

Everyones will, and gen16 will be drastically stronger. It doesn't change much in the end except for annoying people

By doesn't change much i mean you're still gonna get slapped by whales

[keen narwhal]

my gen 15 rider is not maxed but my gen 14 rider is close to max, what will happened?

i skip evelyn

[digital glacier]

My alt that only spent 0.99 for the 1 day incubator will be stronger than my main after this update 🤣

[tardy night]

It's not dependent on your gen 15 upgrades. It's a scaling done independently.

[keen narwhal]

i dont understand

oh i see thank you

[stable cosmos]

My jeb will still suck 😂

[digital glacier]

Gen 13 14 15 will use a gen 15 stat chart.

Bye bye gen 13 14 stats chart

Let's see how long after update before mods delete those charts 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Hey at least the person making that chart can just copy paste gen 15

[digital glacier]

Right... But.... Where the gen 15 chart at 😅

I don't see stats chart

[stable cosmos]

Never looked. I don't get to make things general any more. They take the items away before you get them there

[keen narwhal]

so if i upgrade my trish to max even the gen 16 is already released it will still count?

[digital glacier]

They have new stats chart.

Doesn't matter when it's done.

[keen narwhal]

i see

[digital glacier]

I would love to see a completely 100% FREE (no bundle or extra chance purchases available) event like this. Where everyone gets identical chances regardless when they have the time to login and attack.

I would be curious to know who ranks where within strength and smarts.

Also, a feature for "alliance members" sorting would be nice. Like svs style.

[stable cosmos]

Original pow was almost like that

[old oasis]

Here's Robert from gen 15 chart #📖︱official_en_content message

[short patio]

yeah and starting monday will be the chart for nikola and wolfe as well..

[white turret]

Wtf is this trash. Hooray now I can be burned by a whales third march with ease.

[tidal oxide]

Please please help me, we have a player who wants to transfer to us but her alliance registered her for RR without her permission.
How can she leave now?
We are devastated, what can we do? @old oasis

[tardy night]

Apt name for what can be done

[cloud vale]

Nothing really, until Monday i think

Or was it after rr match ends? Anyway she can’t leave anytime soon

[tidal oxide]

Argggggg ok thank you

[unreal lichen]

Can we bring back the power unleashed plasma and crystal bundle? Alot of us are still growing please stop catering for the whales only!!! That was a big help 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[flint oak]

Devs skipped many states from getting Gen 13/14. Now theyre making these gens = no Gen 15. That means states who were forced to skip Gen 13/14, will have a weaker 3rd March.

This would be okay EXCEPT - there are events that require 3 marches (like KoTH).

Therefore now the states forced to skip are at complete disadvantage once again

Please remedy by - not enhancing stats of this 2 Gens, or changing all battle engines to only allow 2 marches in play or catching up states that were forced to skip by giving free capsules / potions so we can have a strong Gen 13/14 too

Us v old states
1: g16 vs g16
2: g15 v g15
3: g12 v g15
4: g11 v g15
5: g10 v g12
6: g9 v g11

Please upvote this feedback I just did 😘🙏

[white turret]

There is 2 of them that appear in the store on the weekend. In the weekly store or whatever it’s called.

[stable cosmos]

I want the plasma lab back. You always need polymers so having a small quantity free for conversion temains useful. So what if there was a free option. You charged too. It was useful and like effortless progress should be a regular thing

Which also means bring back effortless progress. That was good too, we only got it 3 times...

[tardy night]

Plasma lab was there yesterday

[stable cosmos]

Not for us. I check regularly.

[steel musk]

then she stay there.. can't do anything 🤷‍♂️

[vapid forum]

It's once a month now i think

We have it

[stable cosmos]

I will continue checking but i haven't seen it for ages now. Every possibility you'll lose it too if you're in a later state

[tardy night]

Where have you been checking? Rewards icon?

[bold fox]

according to sotf my state has gone from gen 12 to gen 16?????

[tardy night]

#📋︱feedback-reporting scroll up a bit

[stable cosmos]

Normally you'd get missed stuff in the whatever its called. None there from me using stsmina. Also in the bundles and rewards center. Cos theres free bits there sometimes. Plasma lab does not exist. Dunno what state you're in but we don't get it. We got it after a massive hiatus and then never again

[tardy night]

They possibly removed it cuz of the 50% discount event. What they "give" in discounts, they remove from everywhere else.

We had 30% discount and 6 limitless to work on so a bit of time for us I guess. Very kind of them.

[bold fox]

soooo gen 13 is in the bin even though id saved like crazy for it.... the devs really dont give a sheet about us lol

i guess new heroes make more money then limitless old heroes so it makes logical sense for them...

[polar osprey]

There should be vote on server, Saberlot, as rep of SOS, should change name to Captain Ahab cause they always be hunting whales...no matter how much of death around them.

[polar osprey]

Whaaaat we never got polymer from plasma lab... But I'm in old state and yea it gone now. Good luck to you.

[fringe shadow]

Welcome to the club! That happened to a lot of people too 🙈 saved voucher, bought voucher bundles exchanged everything for lucky in preparation for gen 13, only to have it skipped and going straight to gen 14.

[stable cosmos]

Not like that. I mean you get plasma to convert

[viscid ore]

Would it be possible to have new heroes every 4 months instead of 3? It would be perfect every six months but I wouldn't want to ask too much

Good morning

[lone coral]

unfortunately there are still no rewards for using gold fragments, bravo SOS, you failed as usual.

[glossy siren]

560 still waiting for those items to catch up when skipped hero gens and now my other state skipping 4??? I didn’t think was possible for this game to screw players over even more

[winter canyon]

Apparently my state group is going from gen 12 to gen 16 next week

[winter canyon]

They just want to screw the younger states tbh... making them skip generations but leaving them so far behind in plasma, research, stats etc.

Guess they are just going to give us 100 biocaps and 5 skin tickets as if that's enough for us to catch up🤦🏼‍♀️

[violet garden]

I don't think we will get even that😆

Take it or leave it is i guess

I mean even events like rapid growth (we didn't have it in a while now btw) won't help, if they keep adding new things, we need plasma for.
And they didn't have anything to save us poly in there to begin with.

It is just f***ed up

[glossy siren]

Didn’t give us anything in 560 when we skipped gens when they told us they would 🤷‍♀️

[winter canyon]

We need over 10K plasma and 3K poly just for the new buildings they released a week ago

[vapid forum]

Y'all complaining like it is expensive to just buy it

[violet garden]

<@&628563208164081690> is there any reaction from developers to the skipping of heroes?

How do they think the gaming experience is for us? Do they think events will still be fun if we get matched with people who had 9months to upgrade gen 13-15?

I need @merry scroll to answer and explain it to us.

[peak apex]

Only response we have had is what’s been posted in broadcast center

#⭐︱game_information message

We will continue submitting feedback on it though

[cosmic tulip]

So.... Announcements for Gen 13-15 I really hope the game mechanics change when sending a march and groups these different fraction instead of just sending strongest, 2nd strongest ect... If not we will spend more time checking which hero has a certain faction to combat different situation. Specially at the start. Also how does the barricade reflect these different changes if the mechanics are not changed?

[peak apex]

I’ll be honest, I read it, gave myself a headache and decided I needed way more coffee to understand it

[exotic wasp]

Just why!

[tiny quiver]

To keep us happy 😆

[tiny quiver]

You know all the drinking and meds we take to cope

[peak apex]

Thought that was just me

[cosmic tulip]

Agree. I think I'll go grab another and hope I imagined that announcement 😂

[tiny quiver]

Naaa you need to be cwazy to continue to play this game

[terse agate]

I have been asking this for 13 weeks now….
All I got was the reply in this ss….
Now we know that’s a lie…

[peak apex]

I moved my coffee machine into my bedroom yesterday… best idea ever 😂

[terse agate]

WTF??????
That give us an even worse set back compared to the older states…..

[short patio]

best was the oldest Ray's Place. it would cycle through infantry, riders and hunters..

[violet garden]

I saw it all. It is completely ignorant. Stats of 13 and 14 being raised makes the issue for the states 625-714 even worse.
And it doesn't even adress that they make us skip gens!

[terse agate]

@merry scroll !!!!
Why are the younger states only used as cannon fodder for the older states?????

[peak apex]

I remember that too, one of the worst things they did for f2p was change it

[tardy night]

This was a GM replying?

[peak apex]

Being in an older state playing newer states… I slightly disagree with this, I’m cannon fodder for new states

[violet garden]

First they made people jump from gen 12 to 15, now some 12 to 16. What's next 12-17? @merry scroll

[peak apex]

Ok please let’s chill with the multitagging, it won’t get you a response any faster

[terse agate]

You have had more possibilities and materials to upgrade gens 13-15

[tardy night]

I think gen 13-14 skip States have gone last entire Migo without any answers?

[peak apex]

I don’t disagree with this at all, but newer states have always been a difficult battle - maybe cause older states have been around too long and give up easy 😅

[terse agate]

13 weeks now

[peak apex]

Despite the bajillion tags

[vagrant lance]

To provide a thrilling gaming experience. Thank you for your support, chief!

[terse agate]

Sorry, so since they give up easy the newer states need to be made weaker???
Or have to spend more money to get to the same strength???

[tardy night]

So why can they not tag? Convenient way of ignoring topics they do not want to address don't you think.

[violet garden]

I only know if we stay silent and wait patiently, we will get nothing

[peak apex]

Never said they need to be weaker, just disagreed with the comment, just because my opinion is different it doesn’t make me right

[terse agate]

Even if the feedback is in the top 10 they don’t even respond, so one more or less tag does NOT make a difference

[tardy night]

This was his reply. A CM replied this. Is this aligned to what occurred with gen 13/14?

[vagrant lance]

And this is a very very good example of the lack of vision where the game is or should be going. They make changes just by the whim and then call it new and interesting features (bugs)

[peak apex]

I understand but we do have server rules, we do raise the complaints as they come in even linking them to comments

[violet garden]

Exactly. Many states had 9month longer at least to upgrade gen 13-15 and got much more for free

[vagrant lance]

The feedback is just useless, it should be clear to everyone by now

[tardy night]

Lying to players is not breaking any server rules is it

[peak apex]

So are you saying we should all sit quiet and take it? I’d still rather forward feedback tbh

[tardy night]

Same lies as the one retroactively put regarding game codes.

[terse agate]

I haven’t tagged saberlot in a while….
Followed server rules, making feedbacks to the top 10…..
But, in the end that has the same result as tagging, so why do I even bother with so much efforts???

[vagrant lance]

We can upvote all we want but it does not change a thing nor does it bring anyone here to comment or listen

[winter canyon]

Don't even need to compare the heroes. Compare the plasma, research or stats and they overshoot us by a mile🤣

[violet garden]

Our frustration isn't towards mods. We know you do all you can to raise awareness. It is the ignorance of the devs and CM to our issues.

[peak apex]

Eh, they’ve made minor changes based on feedback, it won’t ever be enough until they start making big changes but we will keep forwarding regardless

[terse agate]

They had 9 months of rays, which they are nerving now as well….
Even LESS options to get the materials!!!

[vagrant lance]

I am glad you still believe in the system

[terse agate]

All I have been asking is to treat all the states the same…..
Strange that this is a big request

[peak apex]

I know lovely, I wouldn’t still do this daily if I believed everyone was yelling at me and not too me

[violet garden]

We had that rays in gen12 for 3 months. You can basically do 1 currently hero without spending and rays only useful to upgrade the older gen

[peak apex]

Not at all, a very valid request

[worn solar]

What's there to chill about. 3 years of efforts down the drain just because the DEVs can't plan. They just shifted their responsibilities to players which is now our burden to carry,

How is a player with Gen-12 gonna compete with states who had 3 months time to work on Gen-13, Gen-14 and Gen-15 each in RR, MM and Azurtane where all 6 marches come into play.

We have developed Nikola, Maddie, Lucky, Jeb, Trish and Wolfe a little forseeing we get them later on but how skipping Gen-15 who we don't even there names about is gonna help?

We go into events with half ass improved marches with weak heroes get beaten to inch of a life with no possibility of victory without shelling $20k to $30K.

Just wanna understand what is going on in DEV's mind to come up with ideas to make players quit in drove.

[stable cosmos]

Hurr durr money mostly

[peak apex]

I hear you, and agree with you - if I’m honest, being around as long as I have I’ve never seen a dev answer all the questions we’ve asked

[stable cosmos]

They can't manage a new event or mechanic without mucking it up and using chatgpt is not doing them any favours as they can't link with older code.

The stat boost is gonna work, but the new combat system will be a giant mess cos they have history there

[worn solar]

So atleast let us have freedom to tag @merry scroll as many times we need to let out our frustration

[terse agate]

But the devs choose to target specific states, making them less competitive intentionally….
They refuse to mitigate those choices AND refuse to explain????

[tardy night]

It has a cascading effect on 2nd March as well since literally everyone with a budget will have to decide to split their spending

[vagrant lance]

@merry scroll @gray dragon

[peak apex]

#📖︱server_rules are there for all to abide by, you could try dming rather than multitagging as that wouldn’t be against server rules

[winter canyon]

I don't get why devs hate states 500-700 so much

[stable cosmos]

I don't think they target anything when it comes to their messes. They have certainly stuck you in the too hard basket now though

[winter canyon]

We get skipped and f'ed over with no compensation at all

[worn solar]

Each player can tag a player once right? It falls under server rules?

[stable cosmos]

Their solution seems to be hope you transfer out

[terse agate]

Which is dumb, so he should respond to all players separately instead of all in one go???

[tardy night]

There are laws in the EU this discord server has to follow as well. Can't wait for Jan 24

[terse agate]

547, 555 and 556 the most…..
They want those states dead.

[vagrant lance]

Because there are people who are stupid enough to try to stay in the speed of the game ( and I need to blame myself on this too)

[peak apex]

Seeing the amount of tags vs how often he comes in to answer players, I don’t think breaking rules to tag more will have any effect on bringing in to answer though

[terse agate]

Meh, I think it is way more efficient to speak to a group then answering each player privately

[stable cosmos]

If the bug benefits the players its resolved in 12 hours. If it impacts negatively, eh, backlog

[vagrant lance]

Or maybe, just maybe, should someone visit here more often 🤔🤔

[tardy night]

In DMs they can lie effectively

[peak apex]

💯 I agree and we ask for more presence here

[peak apex]

Agreed

[terse agate]

A bug with payments is even solved faster 🤣😂

[violet garden]

We wouldn't have to if saberlot would spend more time here and actually read and react to our concerns

[terse agate]

When he is an actual COMMUNITY MANAGER

[stable cosmos]

He's the only one we have. Funplus becca may as well be a bot and i have no idea what nanamisos is for

[peak apex]

I get it I really do - mods are here daily and see it all

[stable cosmos]

She used to interact a bit but was incredibly unprofessional

[vagrant lance]

Yeah. Nerfing took under two hours, going other direction on 60 days or so

[violet garden]

Why not ignore our rule break out desperation to get heard, like they ignore us?

We don't insult anyone, we just want to be taken serious as it is effect our gaming experience a loz

[tardy night]

To give interviews about how they help communicate player concerns lol

[peak apex]

I think maybe a bunch of angry players might be a little intimidating 😂

[stable cosmos]

Did Liannin ever get her interview?

[stable cosmos]

She got sarcastic with everyone and treated people like idiots

[terse agate]

🤣😂🤣😂
I think we can guess the answer to that question

[vagrant lance]

Well, at least in my field of work, if I do my job as bad as they do, people would end up either very very angry or ultimately dead 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[tardy night]

Becca still thanked everyone for kumbaya coffee day that never occurred. That was fun to read

[stable cosmos]

I'd very much get sacked if i caused this many outages

[violet garden]

Than she choose the wrong job🤷‍♀️

[sick ledge]

nah they just want you to buy everything they jusy need big player to have them they just want your money that all

[stable cosmos]

Step 1 to making us less angry is be here more often and a strong reminder that "the devs say no" is at least an answer. Radio silence is no fun

[peak apex]

My field of work is either dealing with angry people or making them angry - for me it’s about how you can talk to people during that, think that’s why I’m here so much, at least yall aren’t angry with me

[tardy night]

And RE Collab heroes. + Christmas skins

[worn solar]

They should have given people time to adjust rather than pulling this act. Atleast for states that have just Gen-12 should be given a chance to test age of outreach, Improve Maddie, Nikola and Lucky and you get equivalent Gen-14 and Gen-15 to reduce the burden.

[stable cosmos]

I do not want new migo...

[peak apex]

Yeah I facepalmed hard at that

[terse agate]

The only thing is, the big spenders in 500-700 are getting more and more angry as well

[stable cosmos]

You CAN you just can't use the r word

[violet garden]

Many quit

[stable cosmos]

The devs are a bunch of incredibly incompetent people who would struggle to open a wet paper bag

[sick ledge]

maybe some lol but the others dont give af they will up everything

[terse agate]

Yup

[violet garden]

More and more quit

[tardy night]

Nah. They are leeches who know exactly what they're doing.

[stable cosmos]

Insults are fine, just don't use the naughty words

[sick ledge]

it like that everytime lol and game it still here with big spender so nothing will change

[stable cosmos]

Or mention electric scam currency mining apparently

[vagrant lance]

We have many rally leaders quit in our State within a month now

[peak apex]

Just be mindful about insults and server rules, I don’t wanna keep being that pinky mod referring to the channel

[terse agate]

No, they are angry too, having to pay more money then others to still be less competitive

[stable cosmos]

Ok, insulting the devs. You gotta give us something

[terse agate]

We have many rally leaders that already quit

[sick ledge]

even if they are angry they will do it

[vagrant lance]

With all the bugs and increased amount of cost it requires them to pour in, the amount of quitting RLs will be increasing. It seems like a domino effect, to be honest.

[peak apex]

Everyone gets tired eventually, some just stick around longer in the hopes that devs change things for the better 😅

[violet garden]

And more and more the burden is on few. The gaps are huge. People who used to be on their heels and support the whales keep falling behind.

[stable cosmos]

I'm playing the really long game. Once all the spenders leave I'm gonna be one of the toughest f2p out there

[worn solar]

I think now they can merge whole of 625 to 700 states into one state because there will be no F2Ps or Mid-Spender left by the end of new MIGO.

Alliance Duel is funny way of taking rss without causing a single casulaty to attacker or defender. Then the whales will start quitting because there egoes won't let them play because no one is left to burn.

This update is gonna create apocalyptic states in apocalypstic game world. IRONY

[peak apex]

😂 feels

Bot auto removes naughty words

[stable cosmos]

Bot sometimes is overzealous

[terse agate]

But, we’ll upvote the feedbacks about it….
Then we’ll see how much they will IGNORE this feedback again….

[sick ledge]

nah nothing will change and everyone know it those who still here they will still buy everything that devs make in this game because they dont want to be weak it like that

[peak apex]

I can see the log 😂

[stable cosmos]

Not as bad as ingame censor. Where i can't say suck

[peak apex]

Better than when they censored “kill” event

[terse agate]

Perhaps we should just disband this whole feedback part of this dc, it has the same result

[stable cosmos]

For a while brandon was illegal too, which i found hilarious

[winter canyon]

So how much plasma can players get in a year from intel/events

[sick ledge]

they ignore every single feedback lol, they dont respect even there own feedback lol

[peak apex]

No nitro just imagine the funniest “huh” emoji here

[worn solar]

Can you start atleast officical SoS Anonymous to help people cope from how they were cheated by SoS?

[stable cosmos]

Uhh. Depends on state age for plasma. I get 18 a day rn from intel plus about 10 from purification. No idea for event rewards but i play pretty slow and it gradually creeps up more than down

I used to get more from daily intel but they've dropped it to 1 chest....

[terse agate]

They also care to ban players for using 3rd parties….
Let’s see how many whales are in that list….
Since I know loads of whales are doing the same

[vagrant lance]

About 1/100 of amount you need to be even near significant. Buy the rest 99/100

[winter canyon]

28 x 365 + all events for a year = ?

[sick ledge]

those who are here with HOPE that one day this devs will change and make good things for there players are so naive, nothing will change

[terse agate]

But those states are matched against each other….
More then a year’s difference….
Then add up the gens skips

[tardy night]

Those lists are scaremongering at the finest.

[stable cosmos]

Don't know about events. I kinda stopped looking after i passed 1000

[winter canyon]

One year behind is practically everything and we lose our gen 13-15 on top of that

[terse agate]

They can stop publishing those foolish bans lists, they are just making a laughing stock of themselves….

[stable cosmos]

Laughing stock reminds me. Is their page still an insecure payment mechanism

[vagrant lance]

You are now assuming they realize that

[terse agate]

But!!!!
The wise devs think it is not very necessary or beneficial to foster those gens to those states

[stable cosmos]

Yep. Still bad. Do not spend money here

And i do work in that area. It would take less than an hour to fix. And most of that hour would be to approve a certificate renewal purchase

[vagrant lance]

And I think they will only tank mid-spenders or smaller for using packsify or similar

[winter canyon]

But the devs decided to make gen 13-14 equal to 15...

They straight up lied

[stable cosmos]

Not the first time

[vagrant lance]

Making gen 13-15 same stats after saying this is kind of funny

[tardy night]

Depends on the mechanism used to do the packs. Their official platforms in Russia offering 27% discounts could use the same methods. Lol

[stable cosmos]

I wonder if that change was spender related. It costs WAY more to have a maxed limitless, seeing that much money made useless must have been too much for someone

[terse agate]

Right?????
So now we miss 6 heroes that are equally strong as the 1 below the strongest

[tardy night]

The top 5-6 per state will miss 6. Literally everyone under that spending range will miss 12-15

Look at hero leaderboards across the states. Stark cutoff where people with a specific budget couldn't decide what in 7-12 to focus on

Vs those who had all at general and simply dumped upgrades into skills and syringes

[winter canyon]

If you compare the stats of gen 12 and Marcos, there's almost a 1000% difference

It's like maxing chief gear twice over🤣

[tardy night]

The stats don't even matter as much. Skills of Nikola/Maddie etc were a huge shift from what these pseduo limitless can do

[winter canyon]

Limitless 13-16 skills are much better than limitless 7-12?

[tardy night]

7-12, all pseudo limitless, implemented as a cash grab. They were nerfed in their effectiveness. Not improved.

Connor improved, Arthur and Derek improved a bit. Most others I had were worse off

Gen 7 guy did decently, instant nerf

[terse agate]

So, when I am from a state in the 400’s, I have had so much materials to upgrade my gen 13, later my gen 14 and after that, my gen 15…..
By now gens 13 and 14 are probably all maxed, perhaps some need a little work and gen 15 needs some work.
When you are from the 500’s states, you just had 12 weeks to upgrade gens 13-15 simultaneously….. most likely you only have gen 15 ok-ish.
When you are in the 600’s and 700’s , tough luck, you get them all in one go….

How will nerving Ray’s help the players in states 500 and up???
This is only beneficial for states 400 and down (I think).
So is swapping fragments

The devs like to keep slapping my state in the face:

• skipped Migo
• skipped hero gens
• double state merge due to a mistake THEY made
  And now this??????
  Stop pushing states down!!!!
  Mitigate the decisions YOU make!!!!
  We didn’t ask for all of this!!!
  You can’t make us weaker only because we are playing in the wrong state….
  Everyone should have equal opportunities, no matter which state they are from…..

[raw breach]

So what happened to this bundle. Too many people got good rewards and you removed it?

[tame lintel]

Haha. They did too🤣🤣

[terse agate]

Saberlot (I am not allowed to tag anymore today).
Care to explain this????

[tame lintel]

Wtf is this crud??

My reading this says...
that the spins only give gen 13-15 frags
And the crates on top as spin rewards give gen 16??

WTF????

CRACK IS BAD

DON'T DO CRACK

[keen narwhal]

so does it mean i can exhange my wolfe capsule to another hero capsule?

[stable cosmos]

This was raised in feedback voting as its what they did in PTR. PTR hated it and the feedback was along those lines. Its obviously going ahead as a terrible idea anyway

[terse agate]

Still no clue why they have PTR…..
It is def not to test or to listen to the findings of the PTR players…

[tardy night]

This is what they have done for all 7-12 limitless for past 3 months. Join the club

[winter canyon]

So the states who are getting skipped can't get gen 16 capsules at all and we are stuck with gen 11-12 in gen 16 state???

[terse agate]

Perhaps saberlot can shed a light on this as well.
And explain the function of the PTR server..,

[tardy night]

You get 28 capsules of gen 16 in one whole rays spins of 120 odd. Same as current rays for gen 12

[winter canyon]

So can only get 1 hero to a mediocre purple brain

The rest can just forget

And that hero is mostly from SvS rewards too

[terse agate]

The crates you mean?
But no gen 16 on the wheel, right???

[tardy night]

Yea, none on wheel.

[winter canyon]

28 capsules for 162k biocaps is such a scam

[terse agate]

Only gen 15 and below on the wheel, which basically benefits states 400’s and below the most

[tardy night]

Basically f2p are forcibly imposed a strict 300%-1500% gap on heroes that will always exist

Beside their other measures taken to "bridge the gap"

Only peeps doing the daily deals get current hero gen up decently if they not ranking in sotf/svs

[violet garden]

Maybe the mods who forbid us to tag saberlot and suggested we pm him, can pm him and tell him to come here are answer us.

[tardy night]

Lol. They get fired if they poke too much. Crap rolls downhill, we at the foothills

[winter canyon]

With the generation skip we are probably going to be at least 300% behind on every stat

[tardy night]

Try 1500%

[winter canyon]

Definitely

[stable cosmos]

PTR is to check that the release works. If it installs and the version number changes it was a success.

[winter canyon]

My best atk/defense is 2800 with gen 12 hunter

[terse agate]

The difference between p2p and F2P is a given, something I understand..
A difference between F2P between different states is not

[violet garden]

We will have SR next week without the chance to upgrade anything. Will ne fun facing all the older states, with f2p stronger than some rally leads😆

[winter canyon]

I remember last year playing RR against farm alliances from state 200s and their farms were stronger than our main accounts

[terse agate]

Yup

But

🤣😂🤣😂

[violet garden]

😂

[winter canyon]

F2Ps from older states are at least 30K plasma ahead

[violet garden]

This is like mocking us

[terse agate]

Like I said, younger states are here just to be cannon fodder for the older states

Seems the older players (F2P) are even more valuable than the younger players (P2P)

[worn solar]

DEV's can't plan and we get screwed should be name of the game.

[violet garden]

They are practically killing game. At a quite fast pace

[worn solar]

SoS : DEV's can't plan

[winter canyon]

Devs: It's not necessary or beneficial to forster gen 13 and 14 for those states
Also devs: Proceeds to raise the stats of gen 13 and 14 to make them equal to gen 15

[terse agate]

Same with the state merge they changed 12 hours before the actual merge, because of that they created an odd number of states 🙄

[terse agate]

Yup

[tardy night]

More that they need the money, and they know this will make newbies dole out more. Older ones have started hitting their walls and exiting the squeeze

So fresh bait needed which can open wallets

All this is to Target the 1% who dump money without question.

The rest are collateral damage.

[winter canyon]

If not even their F2Ps can survive a hit from spenders, what makes us much weaker F2P able to survive a hit from their spenders when we get put into the same matchmaking category