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Evil is near the April first is here
If they fool us with Duviri saying that it comes out today; I’ll cry
I don’t that they are that crazy or even stupid to do something like that. Because it’s already bad as it is so they know well it will go weary bad if they go down that road 😁
Hard doubt because it's Saturday and no one wants to work on a weekend.
Let's keep the discussion about Warframe please
When the duviri paradox will launch
No date has been announced yet.
oh ok
I really wish prime guns functioned like the prime shotgun kahl picked up
"April" is still all we know.
the cross save will launch with duviri?
No
oh
No confirmation on that
No. Cross save is a long way off still.
Cross play is still under test, and not feature complete. Cross save will come after cross play is complete.
ok
I believe they want to make sure it's flawless cuz people can lose data
Like I wouldn't want my Mr 1 Xbox account to make me lose my PC data because it exists
Oh, that reminds me. It's april. I should ask if they are still considering a merge when cross save releases
Merge? Also ask who, the devs?
Yes, the devs. They said they were hosting an AMA on reddit this month. Back in the beginning of the cross play work, they said they wanted to offer to merge accounts when cross save is released. No update since if that is a viable goal still.
Oh I see
I’m guessing either 5th or 12th
I'm putting my hopes on the Week of the 24th.
Someone in another server said it was coming on the 8th, no clue if that's verified
I saw a vid about that, about some sort of leak, tho idk cuz the 8th is next Saturday. Aren’t all warframe updates on a Wednesday?
My thoughts are around 12th
Def after Easter, for sure.
Hopefully it comes out before my spring break ends
Who did y'all choose between Lotus, Margulis and Natah? I personally picked Natah because I find the Sentiants cool and because that's who she was originally so it kind of makes sense? I also did it to spite a friend but that's not very funny out of context.
Lotus, any other name in those transmissions would've confused me
I chose Lotus cause I just wanted her to be space mom again and plus she’s the balance between the sun and moon dial thingy, but if I had to choose someone else then I would probably also go for Natah. Margulis is the worst choice imo cause you’re literally just doing Ballas a favor—
Ballas is dead and all 3 are still in there anyways
I did choose Lotus, but I probably would choose Natah after mulling on it longer. It’s interesting though, because the scene is portrayed as her selecting the name…so maybe we’re supposed to take it more as how she views her relationship with us than our choice?
Well yea but I feel like if you choose Margulis then he still sorta wins. Another reason is that the actual Margulis is dead, so making Lotus look and act like her is kinda messed up in my mind
It's her choosing who mainly takes control. If she wants marge in that position, marge gets that position.
but you aren't making her do anything, it's up to her
I choose natah because I want my tenno to be evil
I purposely infect more frames to build more evil points
tmw
"Three are the principles,
three the weaving ways.
Cool water flows,
the moon behind a cloud;
To the receptive mind
All things come in time.
Sun at mid-heaven,
Sovereign above all;
Mind in firm action
Commits without reflecting.
Between sun and moon
Unfolds a winding path;
Not by one Way alone
Is Mastery achieved.
Let me explain, Child. The words I speak to you have purpose. The choices you've been forced to make have not attuned you to 'good' nor 'evil', but to older, less subjective principles. You must find comfort in your choices, for your enemies will provide you none. The road ahead will be one that requires more choices of you, Child. Be ready."
-Teshin talking about the sun/moon dial
Cool. Spreading space aids gives you evil points
yea but natah is no evil
No, but you're taking away all choice from her. Bending her will to your own.
It's her choice. You the player are choosing, but not you the Tenno. You pick as Lotus. No matter what you pick, you are not imposing your will on her.
You... clearly didn't read what the text says.
Because it's DE waffle. Moon alignment options are usually what the man in the wall wants you to do. While he's not outright malicious yet, he is definitely sinister and pushes for entropy and chaos
Wally has nothing to do with it.
Moon is calm and calculating, sun is emotional and active.
And what happens when you make moon decisions?
...nothing special.
The man in the wall thanks you sometimes
If he appears after a choice, he appears after every option.
And he congratulates you for moon choices when he does appear
This is an official explanation of the dial. That's what is important. There is no good or evil stuff in there.
This is somewhat true (he was more just waiting, he doesn't really celebrate what you do when you do it), but I think this has only happened once (kuva), and even then with the sun and neutral choices he's still present and his tone towards you doesn't change
He only does this once, at the end of War Within. It doesn't apply to the dial as a whole, just that choice. It's also not really "thanking" you
He gets upset, and is hurt if you pick sun
but his tone of voice is clearly not upset: he's not rageful, he's just playing around
Moon (consume): "Hey, kiddo, what took you so long?"
Sun (destroy): "You mad at me, kiddo? Did you forget? You owe me."
Because, according to eternalism, you made every choice
Eternalism is irrelevant
It's core to the lore, wym?
yeah these all read like he doesn't really care too much about your choices
His tone stays neutral no matter the choice, and these limes contradict the void's relationship with kuva
i don't think there's anything particularly evil about moon
Spreading the techocyt around is evil imo
yeah but you only spread it to warframes who don't get infected by it: none of the people you come into contact with on the relays have it
Eternalism is explained terribly in-game. I gotta make a proper explanation to copy to my clipboard at some point.
It only applies to when you're in the void, and even that isn't entirely correct. Otherwise, the choice you make is the only choice that matters, as the other universes, where you make other choices, are only theoretically accessible, making them completely irrelevant.
and i guess you're inadvertently helping them make helminth chargers
The helminth strain doesn't spread on its own
But ruining the fashion for a full week
Those who know lore, is this explanation good enough? I don't want to have to type stuff out every time
The highest crime
yeah I guess that's true...
it seems about right yeah!
Time to add to my clipboard, then. The parvos quotes were probably starting to get lonely
The man in the wall is avoid entity, it's entirely possible that he has access to those other realities. Which is why he isn't so hurt. It's hard to tell though because DE doesn't explain what he is (that's a good thing btw)
(Seriously, 6/10 things in there are just parvos' tenets. Then there's the dial thing, the one ring poem, a fun sentence made out of the same word 8 times and now the eternalism explanation)
That... doesn't matter. If our choice in our universe was a problem or a benefit to him, he wouldn't stay completely neutral
i mean, he might, we don't know a lot about that guy
Our op getting their memories confused with umbra's at least seems to have gotten a relatively positive reaction out of him
That moment is burned into my brain just because it has not been explained yet
Oh, 7am. I should... probably sleep.
Why the Parvos Tenets?
The closer we are geting to the next week the more i think we are not that lucky to get duviri on that week but maybe on week after or even at the end of this mont
In case I want to change the quote in my status
Think you're going to be able to customise stalker in duviri?
Pink stalker 
can i join anyones clans
dm me if so
i cant get online today so ittl probably around this week i need archwing segment launcher
Isn’t there a PlayStation recruiting Chanel?
It's funny to me that man in the wall isn't like a creepypasta type of deal or someone coming out of walls
But it's maninthewall.jpeg
He's an eldritch being
Not his real form, confirmed by DE
It’s not been made too clear to us. We know that he reflects those that perceive him, but to what degree everything we see is entirely his choice or is the kind of ideas we put on him is up to guesswork at the moment
Unknown
Most likely him mocking our name for him
I do believe he shows up with a missing digit before we are given the Entrati lore relevant to that, so there is presumably a tangible essence that defines him.
The albrecht logs predate the new war, which is the first time we see him missing a finger iirc
Ah, I see. Pretty decent chance that all of that could be him just pranking us for trying to understand him, then
I'm still amused by him showing up as a Vitruvian Man in a wall. With a grin like he's trying to cosplay a Metal Gear Rising villain, at that.
Points for style, Wally. Points for style.
Nah metal gear solid villain, we're reaching kojima levels that shouldn't be possible
Rising is more accurate, has more evil grins
Like I said natah, kids are cruel
The man in the wall could use the imagery of the perfect man to show that he is above the Tenno. the perfect being of the void. whilst also showing he is also above the orokin. this perception could be used as a trick. but also a literal manifestation of what those who know of him think of
he could also be a fishy
Wally is a troll, and everyone and their space mom knows that.
spoiler for bug prime
Hahahahaha
cant believe the narmer codex is still broken after so much time
i scan all of those dudes every week
they still in orange
hey so uh
warframes arent meant to be here right
Oh wow, that's a first for me.
So there is a cool games that are coming in the end of this month like for example good old dead island 2 and star wars game. So is not really that smart to have duviri at that time. So this week is just not DE style to made it this early. So next week would make sense to get the duviri update… This is me speculating on something that is more possible on April 12 or 14…
Possibility 50-50
They’ve said multiple times it’s releasing on April 5th.
Confirmed by DE or just randomly players?
We have no confirmed date for Duviri's release. Tickets for Tennocon go on sale April 5th.
I don't think they said that, perhaps you mean the Tennocon tickets?
Gosh darn it! I was trying to trick them!
It was going to be great! I was going to be just as sneaky as Ballas (without the other bad parts about him)
April first has come and gone 
Every day is April first for a real jokester
Trust me i would know if we have some information about this update, because im looking every single day to find out something
So if DE is smart then it would not be wise to give us duviri at the end of Aprils because not that new or even old players would come back when we are getting new big games at that time
what star wars game is coming out at the end of april lmao
survivor?
theres also the idea that duviri is free while DI2 and Survivor are paid
I'm definitely playing duviri instead of those two because I dont want to spend money
I think the Drifters Camp is absolutely stunning and I personally dig the whole new hub thing, not anything to do but it's still really enjoyable to look at.
That's not especially relevant in the grand scheme of things. It's better for traction if Duviri releases in a relative bubble. More social media buzz and more Twitch/Youtube coverage if it's not competing for attention.
Finally someone thinks out of the box. Smart player right here
Let’s hope that DE thinks about that tactic
Because now is the time for DE to shine even more then before
It's not like I'm saying anything new. Or anything DE doesn't know. It's a basic media marketing principle. It's also worth noting that a botched rushed launch will hurt them far more than a delayed but polished one in a crowded window. If it's the only thing people are talking about, you want them to be saying good things.
fair, but as you said, its better to have a more steady launch then rushing to out run games like survivor for just 2 weeks
Ideally they hit both, we'll just have to see. I doubt it's coming this week, but maybe next? Who knows.
Well DE knows
Well the scary possibility is that they don't, lol
Depending on how much still needs to be finished/polished.
I mean they know when the release date is
even if theres more in the works they'd know when they'd actually be ready for launch
It's interesting how hunhow calls stalker "shadow" maybe that's a name he got if the tenno didn't betray the orokin?
I wouldn't read too much into that honestly. It's not like he ever told us his name was stalker or anything. That's just what we call him.
edgy things edgy things
He's the spiritual successor to shadow the hedgehog
Yeah but I mean that must be his name or something
Is there any lore on what he is
He looks Warframeish but he has full control over his body
none except what we've been given, but also why would hunhow know what stalker's real name is
Hunhow is absolutely the guy to take a bit of poetic license when referring to the assassin he's teamed up with that isn't offering him some other name to use. Gotta call him something.
Hunhow's entire family is dramatic
Space family issues
It’s the one thing Ballas had in common with them.
Hunhow is hunhow
Praghasa literally barreled through poison to bring the sentients here
Natah well... we know what Natah went through
and Erra? Mr "If my eyes could weep I would be blind" really took it from his daddy
I mean just go listen to Natah raving on Jupiter.
“My father was a carpenter, my mother was a farmer” or whatever
literally we just need Praghasa to finally get voices and we complete this Shakespearean shamble of a family
Carpenter hunhow??
Yeah he was built for terraforming. All of them were.
He was supposed to build the Orokin’s new home in Tau.
I’m sad we never went to Tau.
Yeah… Space Mom’s side of the family is wild…
Is wally our space father then?
Also it's mentioned that the lotus is an omnipotent mother
Why has no one questioned the extent of her powers and where she got them to begin with
That was Alad being poetic. She isn't actually omnipotent.
She hid an entire moon in the void
I'm starting to wonder how strong she actually is
Omnipotence is not a prerequisite for that. XD
No I'm just saying she's very strong and I'm surprised it hasn't been thought of where she got her powers
She's a Sentient. They have a lot of capabilities. For hiding the Moon, though, she just used the technology the Orokin had installed on the Moon that let it move to new locations.
Also I wonder why the heart of deimos isn't guarded better
At any moment someone could go and destroy it and all the Warframe technology is done for right
First they'd have to get through the infestation though.
There's factions/people that could do it
Especially the sentients
I'm surprised ballas didn't destroy it
The Narmer never got a foothold on Deimos
Also if they destroyed the Heart then the Solar Rails would fail
Solar rails?
Just let Alad V look after the heart of deimos
I guess maybe there isn’t anyone else that would know about the heart? Not really any reason to set foot on a huge infested death ball and we only went there because we were invited.
Also we know in passing that grandmother is able to leverage some serious financial power as well.
Yes, a connected network of junctions that allow people to travel the system. It's how most people get planet to planet. Though our Railjacks are an exception.
Without the Heart, all void powers in the system fail. Not just ours.
I assume that the Corpus and Grineer are aware of the existence of the Heart, at least at the higher levels. But going after it would be a lot of effort for the privilege of having to maintain it.
Deimos also has the similar if not the same phase stuff as the moon
so I'm playing the new war and it's asking me to choose between 3 voices, is there a better one that gives me good stuff or they are all the same?
Pretty much like earlier times, more to set the characters as you want.
If it's the Lotus choice that gives her some different skins.
There’s no reason anyone would kill the heart
the grineer or corpus would kill all of their solar rails making traveling between planets a nightmare
same with narmer. also the entrati can hide it in the void if they feel the need to
It does seem likely they would want to wage a front to take control of it and try to extract power from it, but without any means to control the infested the ground campaign to get in there seems unreasonable. We also step into the situation right when the Entrati are at their weakest and help patch things up. Working together again they can probably muster a better defense than what we initially see. Alad V does seem like a likely candidate for a future event there, if they do choose.
Alad was on an exploding spaceship being invaded by sentients. If the cockroach is still alive that’s very impressive.
Wouldn’t put it past him to try something if he’s still kicking tho.
Each voice gives you a different skin, although you can buy the other skins after the quest for plat. The main change is that the selected name will display on all transmissions from lotus after the quest. There is currently no way to change this after the quest.
I would almost bet on Alad continuing to weasel his way through existence unless I see him being cast into the face of a dying sun with mine own eyes.
he was in the space ship ?
Actually, I don't think he is. There's a whole corpus fleet there. We only see the one being destroyed.
Or he could just be on jupiter
The current belief is that the cockroach is dead. But until the community sees a body or has conformation there’s a chance he’s still breathing (unfortunately), it’s a shrodinger’s cat type of situation.
Dead and Alive until proven one or the other.
what archon boss should I fight first? I don't want to get stuck on this fight for days
Doesn’t really matter… I’d say Amar, the red one, is a good first choice.
boreal and amar are typically easier, but some hate boreal because they dont know youre supposed to smoke bomb when he does his scream
ok and whos the hardest? so I can keep him for last
The orange one. The snake. You can’t prevent her heals. So it’s best to save them for last.
But that’s just my opinion.
Take it with a grain of salt.
None of them are difficult enough to really worry about doing that imo. I've seen people say they dislike fighting each one the most.
Just take your time with them. Rushing is the worst thing to do. Always remember that you aren’t invincible.
But you’ve got this! 👍
I have to say, the aftermath of the new war on the broader lore front is just chaos. Like maybe the only previously important character we have any inkling about the bearings of is Parvos, on account of him invading the Zariman.
Yeah I’m honestly a little disappointed that we don’t get more information about what’s going on in the system. How are the syndicates doing? Are the Corpus and Grineer just back to killing each other again, or has most of that conflict stalled out for now?
And as always I’m perpetually wondering what the deal with other Tenno besides our player is. They ostensibly exist. What were they doing while we were dead? Do they also have Drifter versions they’ve melded with?
He most likely wasn't on the ship, too much of a coward to be anywhere near the front lines
Grineer and Corpus never stopped fighting to begin with. A temporary measure to fight off the Sentients but that's as far as it goes
Well they stopped fighting when they were veiled
Yeah… but one can hope.
Yeah, mind control will do that
Wait when's the next update?
this month
April but not shore if its this year 🙂
True!
But i think it will be next week
My son tells me that Revenant Prime will be coming soon for Amazon Prime subscribers. Has this be confirmed?
your son is a clairvoiyant
He was on the ship at least until Veso decided to turn on him. If he escaped or not is up in the air, but given the things he was saying and how he was speaking, it lends itself very heavily to him having been there.
What lines specifically? I don't remember anything hinting towards him being present on the ship
Think he says something about meeting the sentients face to face.
It's not spelled out, but almost all of his dialogue during The New War does sort of imply that he's on the ship. He says "If I don't stand down fire control soon, we'll all be sucking vacuum!" and "Just in time, too! Our new management is about to pay a personal visit. Be quick; I've got to stand down fire when they dock with us!" (emphasis added)
His dialogue on the whole is very oriented to that ship in particular. Maybe you can say that Alad is also communicating with techs on board all the ships he can contact, but we only see that one Pillar get latched by the Sentient Murexes, so if he was working with other ships, they were less successful than Veso in disabling fire control.
I realized a couple things about Ordis today that tug at my heartstrings. He was once Ordan Karris and all that, sounding very tortured and broken in the audio logs. But just like Umbra and our other Warframes he was an 'ugly, broken thing' and we took away his pain 
Also I feel like although Ordan Karris is what he once was, and even though Ballas totally altered his being, Ordis is now what he wants to be
My poor guy. Funny how these things somewhat apply to him too
Ordan was forced into being ordis at first. Not sure why he accepts it now, actually...
But either way, we're not really the ones who "took away his pain"
We know the origins of two out of 4 of the main Cephalons I want to actually like know Cy's story as a human before he was made into a Cephalon.
i'm glad that ordis found peace, but this just makes me wish that we slashed ballas down in TNW :/
When's Duviri
this month
Ugh. Guess that the choice will have to be made then
Hopefully Duviri is before the 26th so that doesn't happen
Anyone know the TMITW quote from War Within
Pretty sure it was one of the Sun/Moon/Neutral choices
gotta be more specific
The one where TMITW says something about the Op owing them
Was that War Within
Can't remember
"You mad at me, kiddo? Did you forget? You owe me."
Anyone have a spare gif of Erra's Be Not Afraid thing he did in TNW
I think they meant the Kahl one
yes
Khal is the goat
yes
Khal no need Warframe. Khal need brothers and big gun.
And blue hair girl
Kahl on duviri confirmed
What we know so far we have in there.melee,horse/flying,upgradeds,map changes every 2h, npc mini quest and objectives like fishing,random mini bosses like horsemen. Dungeon explorer,flying dragon,zipline from tenshin because he cant bullet jump, new sense of progression
And did i miss something?
Because as far we know all this + main quests is going to look like totally different game in a good way
incarnon adapters, warframe circuit, two deluxe skins, three (but actually seven) new drifter outfits
and a new starting point for new players
I think its nice 30-50h for everyone new and old players to spend on all this
Good enough for me
Now all is left to convince my friends to play it with me 😅 when its out
khal is dominux thrax confirmed 
Also so convenient that dominus thrax's name is thrax which is the exact term which the Holdfast thought for the void invaders hmmmm
i think the thrax was also the name of like a dangerous/venomous animal in Orokin myth
for sure
No, Rell is confirmed to be the Drifter
No?
yeah I know
I'm just a little tired of all the "thrax is rell" stuff
I can see the connections with the moods and stuff, but I think DE wouldn't make Rell a villain
"I am tired of a popular theory so I just randomly lied and spread nonsense" is... certainly a response.
Even if, yes, it would be rather tonedeaf of DE to make the demonized autistic kid into a villain.
no! I tricked them, it's a big difference
remember to use the right words
I keep forgetting this, why do solaris have their heads severed and packed in those boxes in their torsos?
it's efficient
debt
Their body parts have been basically taken due to them being in debt to corpus, same reason you find them on corpus ships now and whole Orb vallis debt bond thing.
Bit late ik but I just watched the Duviri Paradox Trailer and the was wondering if it seems like the Drifters backstory to anyone else or if I'm high out of my mind.
No I believe that is the case, and new games will get to choose to start from drifter or operator I believe, or I've totally misunderstood people.
Yea it’s the drifters backstory, and yes new accounts from what they’ve said can choose to start from duviri or normal game
Man I'm almost envious lol
Why
Wonder if you could connect them to necramechs or Warframes
Well…I suppose if you wanted to. Plenty of amalgams of metal and flesh out there in Warframe land.
I think those poor people have suffered enough already.
Exactly but if you gave them Warframe bodies I think nef onion would get an unpleasant surprise
To make them compatible though you likely need to infest them with the same strain and the original Dax didnt take to that well mentally.
I mean controlling the existing Warframes
After all we as the tenno can just produce them like it's nothing
Especially specters
(Not all frames were dax)
i think specters are different from warframes, and i think being able to make a warframe gameplay wise is different to in lore
Lore Warframes are all warcrimes and abominations against any and all laws. It includes lobotomizing and infecting a person, putting them in so much pain that they go insane
Against any and all real world laws.
so if we were to make a warframe lore wise we'd literally have to infest a dax and encase them in a warframe, not that easy to make then
Not necessarily a dax, titania was a scientist
true. i guess just anyone would do
Still waiting for that Excalibur Umbra vs Stalker scene in-game
Whoever we would choose, it would be a fate worse than death. Immortality and pain as long as there are still tenno
should of turned Ballas into a warframe
eternalism moment
Khal no need blue hair girl. Khal no simp.
Actually, we know that's how umbra was made. When the tenno make Warframes the helminth makes it for them. We can assume it acts like a 3D printer, sees the blueprints and crafts the frame based on it
What about the prime frames seen in the flashback?
How would we make our current frames?
We don't have dax or random people to suck up and abduct
That's... how all of them are made, just replace Dax with "any person"
We make them now by copy pasting the old parts that were already made before since the original technique is lost.
There's lots of people to abduct
Thankfully resources aren't the issue
Yes but how would we copy paste parts without a person in it. Especially stuff like limbo
There's no way that the dax method was used in mass production
Maybe one or two experiments of ballas
Because we fill in the space with Infested tissue and other bio material
How is that related
And why wouldn't the orokin do that too?
i.e. the 3-D printing
They're meant to be elite soldiers, they don't need millions strong. And we have the Helminth to help guide the fleshy bits to do Warframe things.
Silvana didn't become the frame, she made it
And the Orokin don't care, they could just pluck whoever they want to become Frame'd
What I'm more curious about is stalker. And the acolytes. Have all of them just gone umbra? Or are they just tenno controlled?
I mean, they might have. All we have confirmed is that new types of frames were made from people, not all frames
Stalker is weird because he maintains consciousness yet he seems Warframe ish
Excalibur umbra
He's shocked at seeing Operator for the first time so there's that
We've only seen one confirmed case of a frame being made like it
During the sacrifice, we're shown how umbra is sentient. One singular bad memory. Stalker's memory would probably be during the orokin slaughter
There's two if you count the Vitruvian with base Excal
We help umbra, and drifter helps stalker?
It is
True
Maybe if they kept all memory besides how they were made they could be normal soldier
Shadow stalker codex
Well shadow by what hunhow calls him. Such edginess the skiajati is jealous
Yeah true lol
Stalker is much weaker than umbra
Well least the one we fight, our umbra absolutely destroyed us
The stalker seemingly uses his memory of the tenno's betrayal as his source of motivation
Pre-tsd stalker was a nightmare
I do like how he appears and disappears. And how he heals us in the new war?
I think I missed it because I afked for a second during the archon
but what about the acolytes?
But hunhow says shadow your help is required and stalker helps us
we know that Stalker went umbra. but the acolytes haven't had much depth
Tenno in warframes that support what he does iirc
Which is... odd
There is no confirmation they're Tenno afaik
well, its not like going umbra isn't possible for a frame
just look at rhino's codex
Tbh I'd love to have a sentient frame that's cool in duviri paradox
Ah, I see
Aka stalker
Who's the acolytes? I don't remember that
oh boy, do i have some news for you
All frames were like that before the tenno were added into the mix
He's in duviri?
What's stalkers umbra memory in the drifter universe?
Which is when that codex takes place
Dominus thrax kills the orokin
probably
We never see the drifter's universe
It's "someone we know"
Someone that we used to know
That's all we know about him
imagine its just another version of the operator and drifter
Aside from the obvious things, of course
well, we know he has no knowledge of the warframe universe outside of duviri
so maybe he's linked to wally or something
And he rules over a location in the (most likely) deep void
rell passed away after we destroyed the harrow frame in his story, so it can't be him so
It could still be him
In our timeline
it could be him, but i wouldn't assume so- rell was never the type of kid to treat others like toys. he was pretty smart too. thrax acts more like a pouty child
It could be the guy from the necralisk poem
Poem? Those are research logs
They wouldn't make an autistic (not trying to be offensive, he was autistic) child that was sacrificed into a new enemy
Dominus' behavoir is pretty similar to rell's in a few ways
Why?
Could just be autism?
...yes.
well, it must be someone worse than us if stalker is willing to help us out
Stalker doesn't hate drifter
Someone we know who behaves like a person with autism.
Wouldn't be Rell. DE doesn't have the stones
Is it though? Rell hasn't shown any of the tendencies Thrax has; controlling, cruel, childish, etc.
I guess we'll find out later this month
Ballas Junior
Likes order, doesn't fully understand/can't control his emotions, needs a singular constant sound to calm himself down
it'd be a bit odd for that to be the case i guess
But Rell doesn’t seem to express the strong emotions that Thrax does
Rell was known to have a really strong connection with the void, literally being able to talk with the red veil even if he was chained up in his harrow frame. that sort of ability could evolve into full-scale void manipulation
They're complete opposites there, rell doesn't understand or really express emotions, while dominus is very expressive with his
Opposite spectrums. And duviri splits from ours from the zariman doesn't it?
I doubt on the controlling/understanding emotions part. In the same way as Rell, at least. It reads to me more as him being childish, which is why he's prone to anger and envy.
So there's no way rell changed since the event didn't include him that much
The Zariman is currently plugging the entrance to duviri right now in the main timeline
I don't see how he'd change that much
He was cast out and I assume would be cast out in the duviri world
Our rell was forced to essentially survive alone on our zariman, but at least he had void powers. Drifter's rell, if he existed, wouldn't even have void powers to protect himself
So then he'd die/become nothing important because he'd have no powers
With DE’s latest tweet, what’s the optics on getting that cinematic trailer within the coming week or so?
OR- Rell was the only one to get powers, as he made the deal with wally
Drifter also had no powers and survived
cast out... not into the void, but into the arms of the red veil
we made the deal, where does it show rell doing so?
just a theory, seeing as Thrax has such a powerful manipulation of the void
which is on the unproven assumption that its rell
which is why its a theory
Duviri alone specifically as far as we know
overall, it seems that Duviri exists within the void itself. it could be an infinite plains, or could just be one planet. its never really specified. but i think with where the zariman is facing in the trailers is that with the zariman entering the void, its entering loads of different possibilities in one
one could be ending up in duviri, one in Tau, and other unknown places
What if operator and drifter are the two versions that survive the zariman
Well, the location is called planes of duviri iirc
Konzu
Not plains, planes. Like planes of existence.
Maybe Thrax knows about Wally. we could find out in duviri. it could link story around wally well imo
dont forget we literally can dive down into an underbelly
true
entering the undercrofts is where we're supposed to hold back thrax from affecting duviri, so i think that the spirals are different parts of duviri probably
I think DE did say they want to focus on the void for the next few quests and stuff
Corrupt vor update?
Vor gets sent to duviri and gets stuck in an infinite loop. Thrax saves us from his monologue
Every piece of bgm has his monologue playing very quietly in the background

Even better: all music is made out of the monologue
can we just capture him and put him in a box so his monologue is no more
He becomes an interactable deco like the glassmaker dude
Yes. the box of vor
It's just him standing in a cardboard box
yes, his monologue infinitely playing aat 1% volume
need more stuff to do with Narmer. it feels odd that theres no Narmer variant missions in steel path yet
I mean, we have Kahl’s veilbreaker mission, the archon hunts, and the bounties…
It’s better than nothing.
True, but theres not much to do with kahl once you unlock everything, the hunts are fun but can be only done once a week and the bounties... they're okay but its a bounty
Kahl missions get you 1 free extra shard each week
yeah, but its only really useful if you have no tauforged ones on hand
just noticed , lotus's hand fumes a little bit of smoke after the whole man in the wall scene (before her smile)
curious
She must of gained void powers to fight off wally
The void is damaging to sentients so unless she’s somehow suddenly immune, idk about that
no clue, but she was able to hold him back somehow. maybe because of the power she got from the archon shards and ballas?
Maybe, but that’s if she even held him back
I see that whole scene as her doing her best to protect us while Wally either escapes or succeeds in whatever it was he was trying to do
Bro hopped out the void, said a void chant, and left. chad
Lotus wasn't to hold him back she was trying to close the portal
Do you think she closed it in time?
I don't think she closed it at all.
??
Oh I get what you mean, since she started pushing before he came through
Why'd she act like nothing happened then
I mean, she likely saw Wally and a bit freaked
Yes but she didn't tell us anything
If u saw a big floating guy would u tell anyone (and you have no idea if they saw it or not)
Doesn’t she promptly pass out after too?
Yeah she smiles, her hand smokes, and then she falls down
I mean yes?
I wouldn’t they would laugh at me and call me “cruel man” and “long hands” etc
Oh hey maybe MITW told her not to tell anyone
We do not know what he said
There are theories, the requiem theory provides the poem but it hasn’t been confirmed
Oh it's simple
"duviri paradox releases in-"
“April”
Nah
It does tho
Wally is the type of person to say that then disappear before giving a date
Lol
Fr tho we do know it’s coming this month
wally decoration when
I want a replica of Wally Vitruvian 
Always when you forget about him
My question is what does the bottom part of it look like
feet
No no a bit more up
knees..?
Because the vitruvian man is kinda nsfw, I'm sure they didn't keep that in right?
When they made the model
LMAO
Actually I think during the cutscene we can see the whole thing
Me spawning into warframe when Stalker prime gets added
Tbh if I wanted to troll a kid I'd probably come like that too
i hope that they make stalker customisable in duviri. i beg of them
i must make shadow stalker
prime
Shadow the hedgehog
They're both black and red, edgy, teleport, called shadow and have superpowers
Yes. but one of them has simps and the other one is a hedgehog
You'd be surprised
Shadow the hedgehog has a lot of simps
hear me out
i know it's a lot but you know we have a crystussy
why not go on a date with stalky the stalking stalker
i mean he could be a create guy you never know
fight me
i don't even know what this is about anymore
I wonder when the mods are gonna inevitably delete all of this tho
about a simp on shadow the not hedgehog or edge-lord
Live Eidolon reaction

Funny that you think I fear the eidolons
I was born into eidolon hunting, molded by it
Eidolon on steel path
Pathetic 
Look we get it you're on lure duty

Where's this from?
Yes actually, lure handling is my favorite role 
I am unsettled by the low poly eidolon, I will admit
Am I insane or is he dabbing in that last one?
Warframe on the PS1
Lets guess when the Duviri Paradox will release!
Last week of the month is when i expect it so that if it releases earlier i will be pleasantly surprised
question. does mind step work in the new war quest on the drifter? 30% more movement speed to operator/drifter.
I don't believe so with the exception of the ending part where drifter has void powers
Why does everyone always say that switch has bad graphics or switch runs bad?
Probably never seen a switch, the console is much better than most people assume
Given the recent news thing, my guess is at least next week
Yeah. Warframe runs better on my switch than it does on my computer. Plus, those of us who play on switch can play on the go, can any other platform do that?
They assume it's a potato. Given that the port to switch improved things for other platforms, it's outright baffling. Panic Button did a great job on the port and they should be lauded for it.
Yeah!!!!!
I mean steam deck
Let people play on the platforms they want.
What’s the news?
hmmmmm
Today other then tennocon tickets we would probably get some more information about duviri
So today is the day for some news
Not necessarily, though it wouldn't surprise me to see the trailer drop today.
Yea me 2
It would hype more the players when they see that new full cinematic duviri trailer in order for them to buy tennocon tickets 😏
And only way i will buy the ticket is if we are getting some drifter outfits for that instead of some armor set…
Damn, just got Hey Kiddo'd for the first time in like a year. Also noticed that when the operator disappears the eyes are the last to go, so for a split-second you can just see two floating eyeballs in the air.
Yeah. I hate it when Wally shows up. It just randomly shows up, and once I feel comfortable and relaxed and safe. Wally just pops in again.
Some times I've legit jumped because I'd forgotten it's a thing
They should just go radio silent and announce the upcoming release of duviri through Wally so we all collectively poop ourselves out of fear and anticipation
Maybe they already have… but no one has gotten Wally to say that voice line yet.
what if in duviri there is a special death animation where MITW slap you but with his real size
Make it happen DE
"Hey kiddo, 8 more days and I'll take you for a ride."
Hey I'm curious about something, how come we see a finger in the Zariman that looks a lot like the finger we see in the railjack
It's the same finger I believe. The exact details are a bit fuzzy (at least to me), but the original finger seems to be able to duplicate itself according to some in-game quotes from Archimedian Yonta.
That's... weird lol
Its the finger of a very powerfull void entity
No I know that, I've done all the quests btw
I mean that its not weird for a finger from the void to multiply itself
Just usual void shenanigans lol
That's pretty much the TL;DR of the entirety of the Void
True lol,
Do you guys think that at some point the sentients will repair Hunhow by the time we get to Tau, maybe an ultimate boss fight?
I mean at this point I don't really even see the Sentients as the ultimate enemy, maybe even a potential ally after the New War. I do hope that we get to see more Hunhow, though.
Then who do you see as the main enemy at this point?
It’s a pretty common theme in the game that there are no true villains or heroes. Just managing the conflict itself is more our goal I think
I'm just imagining going into a kuva fortress tile set with Caliban and an uncountable amount of sentients behind him now lmao
Entirely depends on where Wally goes as a character.
True there
Tau is owned by Sentients right?
I thought it was but I'm just making sure
As far as we know, I think so
Yeah sentients were originally sent to tau to terraform it for the orokin
That's gonna be so awesome to see because majority of the sentients are in tau in that case
I could imagine a future where we travel there to aid the sentients in turning back void corruption. But I assume not on the cards for a long time
Yeah yeah I know
Just been thinking about it more and more as I keep doing Narmer and Zariman stuff
It’s kind of mind boggling to think of another 10 years or whatever in narrative. I feel like even though you don’t want your game to die you don’t really expect it to last that long
Then think about this
This years tennocon is the first in years where we dont have an idea of what they might showcase
Pretty excited for that, unfortunately might be the first TennoCon since I started that I won't be able to watch live though.
I’m not sure I’ve actually ever been actively playing during any tennocons
When is tennocon again?
I thought they were saying it was coming early this year
Nope by tennocon standards its late
Yup just looked it up
Wonder if its just because of it being in person or because of the content of tennolive
Probably because it's in person. Could also be due to the convention centre doing other shows as well. Likely that.
I really wonder if Dominis Thrax is a Void manifestation of Tuvul... Strong emotions causing the things they do, and all, and he was "robbed" of his Continuity. He likely died with incredible amounts of arrogance, pride, spite, and who knows what else.
Unlikely. From the Drifter/Duviri perspective Tuvul never died, since he was killed during the Tenno Uprising. Neat though though.
We’ve only seen two of the seven as of yet, haven’t we? Wouldn’t say no to the opportunity to smack one of their domes
We have technically seen tuvul
Of course Duviri is a null timeline that's sorta very out of sync with causality, so it's not impossible.
My personal guess is that Thraxx is a Zariman colonist that was born in Duviri.
True, true.
Like that one episode of Twilight Zone with the baby who is god, and eliminated all of reality except for his small agricultural town because he didn't believe in it.
I do dread the thought of going too far down the alternate universe hole. There are enough characters to be explored that I’d be happy if there wasn’t a lot of redundancy when it came to important players across the realities
Bonus points if it's the player Tenno's younger sibling.
Could be that a Void copy of himself was made whenever Dominus showed up in Duviri, but I guess we'll see SUPA SOON!!!!!
Fortunately, we aren't going into alternate universes. Just within the Void. 😄
For what it's worth it's mostly not an issue for the player Tenno, since Wally did a quantum collapse on us. 1 Operator 1 Drifter.
1 Baro
I have to constantly keep returning to the lore to remember stuff because I have a very tenuous grip on how everything works so far
It should be someone we know
DE says that, yes. I have no expectation that it's restrained to people we've met in the game.
my guess is, and will remain until duviri releases, that Dominus is the void manifestation (just like skittergirl) of the tenno (singular/plural, its up in the air). Child-like, desire for utter control, seem to be all the emotion and mental hoohah stripped away from the children of the zariman during the incident, which could have been coalesced into a singular gestalt entity. It is why its "someone we know" and why drifter gets mistaken for dominus
I wonder if that could explain Thrax’s Orokin-inspired everything, maybe we favored the Orokin in the same way before everything happened
I wonder if there are any other “Drifters” in Duviri
Since there’s Drifter multiplayer, there should be
Hopefully we’ll get some explanation
Maybe we ge to hug people
That’d be nice 
Hi guys. I wonder who is that 4th person on the right? Any guesses?
Is
to blame for most of the grineer's problems since the Tenno are always killing Liches
You all know after new war fortuna and cetus has changed and we can only see Drifters after that. So imagine having expansion about duviri when we finally get to kill the king behind the duviri and changing the world when we get to use hos caste as hub full with npc even having our home and shops for our drifter. And for other players walking around that safe place with their drifters
And having option to choose day cycle like if is normal full with color is like easy mod.angry cloud time would be hard mode with more bonus xp and better drops and so on
Well they’re wearing the drifter/operator cosmetic called “The Stranger’s Hood”.
I mean, they aren't different people like that to begin with
I just assume those are supposed to be four different Duviri drifters.
Yeah, the “OG Tenno” is just wearing the drifter Zariman suit
🤔
Well thanks
So DE just wanted to show that we can play in a party
Nothing to be interested in
i was messing with captura and the hell is operator doing lol
For some reason they get stuck in their chair anim
It’s been that way since Veilbreaker I think
It’s fine. He’s just part of the secret 6th Focus School, the Mime School.
Void chair™️
You don’t just sit on the invisible bench?
That's a very short bench if you can use both armrests at once
All four of those are Drifters
The leftmost one has a Drifter suit.
And lore-wise, there are multiple Drifters in Duviri, at least post-quest.
the rightmost person looks like the person in devstream 169 during the "oh no thats a spoiler" segment
What? No
That segment from devstream 169 just showed ||the mounted Dax unit||
||Basically the spoiler was that encounters can happen with mounted Dax suddenly||
Reminds me of Xaku for some reason
Just gonna say that looks like ||a lady dax||
Xaku's design is pretty similar to the duviri dax
True
So are we going to get a date today
Who knows
doing new war quest, just finished using the old operator with a gun, melee and 3 abilities just now, how long till quest is over?
Mimeron
Hour or 2 left. Honestly depends.
Maybe 3…
They’re doing the crazy frog motorcycle
Hes begining to believe
Nah, not very similar to that
R: --What is with that Operator!?!?--
Are we getting prime time today? Maybe they share some news about duviri
When Kahl said "need blunt" I felt that
Same as when he said “it’s cornith time”
Yeah Prime time tonight/day.
Would be nice.
they may give an ama date
So looks like we are getting 1 big nothing with the news about duviri. I hate when they acting like there is nothing to talk about it. It looks like its long long the way. Maybe is not even coming this month 😏
Okay
You hyped yourself up with the fantasy that prime time will give you important news and then got salty that reality wasn't like that
why is teshin in duviri ? Drifter was in duviri cuz he didnt get saved from zariman. Does that mean Teshin was also a survivor of the Zariman ?
Its a different Teshin
Like Drifter is other version from your Operator
Same but different 😏
it might be teshin pulled into the portal from TNW, or a different version
Yea like a little baby,im bored and its some how easier when we get something at least hey we cant talk about it but you will know more soon like next week or so. Something to know that is still going on with all this
They’re literally working on it, be patient, do something else to pass the time
Facts 
Haha yea im playing everything this days but im not that in the mood for this type a games like i am for duviri
😁
Maybe check out some shows you haven’t gotten to check out or something
Busy yourself, make the time go by faster
Or sleep as much as often
Im even forced to play broken last of us part 1 game 😏
Work gym games and tv series
Wife kid
Im busy like crazy but hey i can only wish for more 😅
The more older you get the more games are boring and not that interesting like they did before
then do something other than games to pass the time
To cheat on my wife to gamble or go out is not really my type a think no more 😅
Bruh
Also prime time is the devs that are entertainment streamers, gotta wait for dev stream for them to talk about it
Did they say no devstream until we get duviri?
Aslo if they not giving us duviri next week,then i don’t think i will get to play it after that because of the dead island 2 and star wars jedi survivor
mate this is a joke I have a 2035 ban
Talk to #support-and-bugs about it
Go and create a new account. When we get duviri it’s only thing that we didn’t play and that we can play from the start,after that just be done with a game
Do not create a new account if you have that kind of ban, you will just get even more in trouble
However best talking to support about it as to why you got banned etc.
Genuinely have never felt this being the case. I find there's too many games I want to play and too little time! lmao
The less you focus on just having fun and more on optimizing and perfecting everything, the more boring games get
I am sadly starting to fall into the second category
I feel that's why I tend to play a bunch of different warframes tbh.
Yea i wish to play something good but good never came. With less time then before its hard to fulfill the void with not that good games. And always looking for something good that we don’t have that much. But with duviri i think it would be the case. So when we dont have anything better then we are waiting for only free good thing to finally comes out 😁
Same
Yea. But when you have 4400h then its same old frame after frame weapon after weapn. But with a duviri is something totally different and specially when im in that mood to play that specific type like what duviri is offering
That's not the game making it repetetive and boring, that's you doing that
Call me when you spend that much time on same game what ever you do x100 you will then realize that there is no much new things you can do
I spent that much time on many games, and I still find ways to make them still be fun to play
I don’t know i wish i have that fresh spirit every time for old games
But unless i got some really big things and insted just getting something similar over and over then its not that good any more for me to come back
But with a duviri is just the right medicine for me 😅
Refreshing in every possible way
Im just really hoping that it will hold me to play longer when it finally comes out
I mean, it's about finding game loops you enjoy because at the end of the day, that's what games are. A repeating loop with minigames in between to make a complete picture. That's why I have a plethora of fully forma'd warframes and weapons.
I understand but you don’t when you play same thing over and over again for this many hours you get bored no matter what you do next. New weapons and freme will not change that much because there is no much else to do
But duviri is just a good example for a big change and improvement to play something new
I even think that warframe is only game I spend this much time playing it. Every other game i spend 50-200h max
Duviri is basically a different game
So my BF just had one hell of a bug in the New War.
Ya know when you choose between Drifter and Operator? Well cutscene out of the operator chair then showed his Valkyr WARFRAME instead of the chosen operator/drifter. Just casually laughing at the pics he's sending me. (Told him to restart the game because that tends to fix most bugs.)
I wanna see 
1 mo I'll grab two of his broken screenshots. 
(So his Valkyr in the seat instead of the Drifter lmao.) Then the walking animations were even more funny. Also the restart worked but damn, I thought my door glitches were funny but nope this topped the cake. With what happened to my boyfriend. (This is his Valkyr etc.)
Look at how squished she is

ikr 
approaches menacingly
Tiny valkyr with that huge sword
With a giant galatine prime 
Zenistar with the dynasty heavy blade skin would've been even better
What's up?
I get this error when I log in
Please make sure your firewall allows UDP ports 4950 and 4955
And when I'm there I can't even invite or be invited and I don't see anyone and it's lonely playing like this 😦
Hm, might want to ask about it in support, I believe there is a support channel in this discord. (Though your antivirus might be blocking the connection. Friend of mine had a similar issue.)
I understand but my antiviral is the same windows defense and do you know what the channel is? I just entered and I'm Spanish xD I don't get along much with English
https://digitalextremes.zendesk.com/hc/en-us here's the link to their support.
:3
I hope you can find a solution! 
thanks friend ❤️
Love what you did to the portrait to make it look better, and yea probably
Very nice 
The knives were a nice touch. Beautiful work.
new image
Big eye
Ooo I see why it's familiar. It's because of the statue in the Zariman
where did this screenshot come from tho?
My guess is from twitter
Pablo or maybe Reb probably posted it to hype up Duviri even more
Yea, specifically this one
I was thinking more albrecht statue
That too but the Tuvul one looks the most alike, to me anyways
where did this image come from?
Lordsofgaming. Net
I whose just searching on google warframe duviri images
And I found that 1
Some of this that are giving information about this game they all have 1 random new image that we didn’t see
Whoa, this had been around since a month ago?!
Hey i whose wandering if new players can start the game from the start with a Duviri. Does he is playing with Pedro Pascal looking drifter or he did get the option from the start to have character creation option? 🤔
It would make sense, really
There’s the mirror in the Drifter’s hub
But i dont think we will start from that place when we start playing. We know its starts from stabbing you and getting lotus hand
Maybe there is a camera slowly coming close to your character face right before they capture you.And then choos male female faces and what not,and after it just continues with a story…
Or maybe mirror that we have in our apartmen locked new room would be before we enter in to that portal we are able to change the drifter look
Hologram loooking npc would probably saying to do that first before we get in to that world
🤔
Maybe, but no way to know for certain before launch
But I think that is probably only reasonable option to be from the start
I totally forgot for that new locked room in our apartment
My guess would be you customize your drifter's face as soon as the executioner takes off your hood
Yea or that
If its skyrim or big company game
It would be cool
But knowing DE it would be hey heres a mirror in your mystery new room you can see you from duviri world,go check that out. After you select it you change yourself and then ok it is you,now you are good to go in to duviri portal
But then again new players they didn’t unlocking Zaruman quest,so maybe don’t have access to that apartment. So maybe when they activate to start playing from duviri then in duviri is the place where they can change the look 😏🤔
I might create a new account when Duviri drops just to see what it's like
I already have the 1 just for that 😅
😄 I'm personally just going to play it on my main account for a while before making the new account probably
Maybe in original option like we know you get to choose 3 frames but in duviri option you get to create a character from that moment when you start…
I think it's gonna be quite weird for duviri and new war to meet up for new players. They'll have no clue about the other plot.
When you start with duviri
Definitely interesting to see where and how the storylines connect
I'd say when the drifter and operator meet in new war
It has to be a bit earlier I think, since the Drifter clearly knows about what the Operator has gone through when they meet originally
Yeah
Looks exactly like Albrecht's statue pose
Oh wait no it might be the Angel pose
I hope the scope of the project included cutting out some of the early grind for new players, cause it will feel pretty bad, I think, to do whatever cool new quest gets through beginner Duviri and then go fart around with two slots and a lato for a few days
Why would you do that even in the game right now?
sane
*same
You don't have to use the Lato more than a couple hours...
The Junctions rewards got buffed a ton
Also more Warframe slots is kinda pointless, you can barely even use your first Warframe before you get your first couple slots.
Until you reach Uranus/TSD, you don't really need any new weapons and don't really benefit from having new frames. All that's important is to learn the movement and the mission objectives and how to equip the few mods you have.
Maybe, but the grind to get to like your first really cool set of things that you can see but not access still seems to be a turn off for a lot of new players
Which grind, exactly?
Time gating, resources, etc
The time taken to get to Uranus without rushing is far longer than the time taken (not counting waiting for MR test) to get to MR 4/5 and build the solid and interesting early weapons
While time gating progress is only relevant in open worlds and Syndicates, both of which aren't relevant to New players
If anything I'd nuke Ceres from the game instead of making people spend more time pre-TSD distracted by rapid unlocks
Man you can tell me that it makes sense from a strict tutorial and gameplay pacing but I know what new players feel and how many I’ve known just quit from the early waits
Again, which early waits?
You gotta be specific, because there's not many things to wait for that are useful to a New Player at all. Especially with all the instant MK1 weapons
People who quit probably didn't understand the systems, the explanation of which the game needs to improve a lot, but that doesn't necessarily mean changing the systems themselves
That’s a good part of what I mean, really.
Hmm this is starting to get off topic for this channel
#gameplay-discussion is better
True
I’ll leave it her for now though, not because I don’t think it’s worth discussing with you, but because I don’t like debating for long period time 
Ngl If we go to tau Someday i Hope ITS like high risk high reward missions
I mean a possible thing could be that the devuri world is the tau system? (just a theory)
Impossible; the 10-0 never made it there, and the Sentient sent a retaliatory force from Tau that instigated the Old War.
not to mention... Duviri still is in the void, yknow the place filled with anti-sentient nono juice, why would the place the sentients have dominion over be poisonous to them
The only 'unless' I can fathom would be a copy of Tau generated in the Void, but no organic life from Sol ever got to Tau (to my understanding), so a Void 'memory' of the place wasn't properly created.
Aside from the few lore entries about engaging Sentient war-forms and combat crafts from Old War Grineer and (possibly) Tenno perspective(s).
Could someone help me with this problem? Since I can neither trade nor invite or anything when it comes to playing with other players this appears
Please make sure that your firewall allows UDP ports 4950 and 4955 I have tried everything and nothing please I would appreciate it ❤️
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6D1Mh9xhtI @torpid lantern My boyfriend uploaded a video of his squished Valkyr in his "The New War" replay that bugged out by the way. Thought I'd send ya the link if you wanted to see it in motion. (It's much more amusing lol.)
First of all: I own nothing
Music used: Temmie Village, CORE
Composer: Toby Fox
I was replaying The New War for fun when seemingly the Operator, Drifter and Warframe all fused into one, I couldn't bullet jump and the animation set of the Operator shrunk the model of my Valkyr Prime... while I had definitely selected Drifter for the final act. ...
have you not talked with #support-and-bugs
we got a duviri date yet?
need to know how much time i got to get my hate build setup before duviri srops
Nope

April 2035
Last time they announced duviri wasn't it like 2018? Then the next thing we heard about it was last year's tennocon, so give it another 4 years minimum
You know when you have exam some of us is learning 2 weeks early to that point, but some of us is learning on his last day to exam. And DE is 1 of them working everything big in last minute.
So probably in the end of month in last minute
Something will come up it'll get pushed back, and when it finally arrives it will still be full of bugs.
They'll fix all the major ones that are gamebreaking and then forget about the rest 😛
And fun fact from so many delays the 1 when they saying it will be end of December 2022 and 4 months after looks like they are not even close to finish line.
I mean that's not even a surprise at this point.
All I remember from the sacrifice is a bunch of people arguing that our warframes weren't humans at some point and therefore don't actually have minds/memories.
I tend to only show up around story releases. Only really playing now because of the dex drops.
Well in the end it would be a perfect time for duviri to comes in upcoming week but i don’t think we are that lucky
It'll probably end up being like week 3
Yeah probably,unfortunately
No no, it was announced in 2019 for 2020 release. And then plans were cancelled due to COVID (and technically a little bit cause Railjack related Delays)
Anyway, about Duviri... Guys is Teshin's area inside the Zariman? Cause you can see the silhouette of the door or whatever upon entering
probably, the star chart is over crowded
Activating 2FA is an important step for giving your account access to features such as trading yea
2FA just means linking your email account to your Warframe account
Although the skybox Zariman looks very much untouched by the rock formation things
I like to believe that we are start in some cave, but maybe it is in Zariman
There’s a door in the Dormazone that has Teshin’s swords leaning against it if you approach as The Drifter. That area also shifts to a grey scale color pallet. That’s what they are talking about.
no have more Teshin’s swords 💀
why won't they just give us duviri?
it's still being made
its been being made for 4 years now
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don't ping DE

Not really, it was announced 4 years ago
I’d imagine something like Duviri has a lot of moving parts and takes a lot of work. Let the Devs take their time, we’ll get it when it’s done. We just need to be patient.
It's really not
Imagine that you decided to go watch a movie, then Covid happened for 2 years. Then when cinemas opened up, you bought the ticket. Did it take you 2 years to buy the movie ticket? No. Should you expect 2 more years to buy another ticket to another movie? Obviously not.
Similarly, nobody should set any Duviri related expectations based on the almost 4 year period since the "We are planning to make Duviri after New War" announcement till today. Especially not specific expectations like "It's been 4 years what will one extra month possibly do just release it now."
Start counting from sometime between Jan 2022 and AoZ release date for the least inaccurate guess.
Complaining is easier than just staying silent for many people
good point.
sorry, i was just starting to get quite annoyed.
I don't mind complaining, but let's just say that if I was gonna take the effort of bringing it up in any conversation, I would try to fully think through what I was gonna say too.
Then again, sometimes I debate myself for an hour only to come up with something obviously reductive like "Nuke Ceres from the Early Star Chart no new player should have to go through there"
Oh... Rell's voice and Dominus thrax's voice is literally the same i think.
Well maybe this is a point to prove that they're the same person. Maybe this is how dominus sleep ? To constantly play ?
Do you mean they sound the same or is there voice actor info?
They sound alike i meant.
Like it feel like it's literally the same person
Ohhh there is one things that is very interesting about a point that could imply if dominus is rell :
"Another interesting thought that comes to mind is the fact that pretty much every character we see in Duviri is wearing a theatrical mask. This might not only play to the theme of everyone being an actor in Thrax's world, but might also have something to do with the fact that Rell was never able to understand facial emotions, and relied on cards to help with deciphering them. Perhaps he is forcing everyone to wear these masks so he doesn't have to bother looking at their faces and become confused by their emotions."
I mean, that is an incredible stretch
aside from sounding "child-like" (not hard given when child), Dominus's speech mannerisms are far from rell's
I do not, for one second hear "mmmm, its too much" exiting out of Dominus's mouth
Yep that's very weird tbh.
He doesn't hum like Rell, he has other mannerism. Which is strange because we know that Rell is currently the strongest tenno ? So one that could maybe bent the void to his will
Are they, though? Both have a similar cadence. Dominus is just more self-assured
Honestly i just thought that Dominus was not the same rell but the rell from another universe ?
Well eternalism isn't about changing the personality of the person completely... Especially since Drifter and Operator only vary after the Zariman accident's occurence.
do they have similar cadence? I'd need to check on dominus, but rell tends to pause every 2-3 words
But just them going through completely different experiences, one being treated like an outcast that doesn't understand anything and the other creating his own world full of sort-of living beings that practically worship him...
That's enough to change the content of their words completely
The fight with Dephius comes to mind
Yep,that's a problem, but it's weird that both of their mannerism seems to be very different
But it kinda make sense that maybe the mannerism has changed as he was literally in control of his "playground" meaning that he could feel way more confidence ?
Imma need a link for that because I dont know if thats the previous tennocon, the first duviri dive or the second duviri dive
And now... the cowardly knight... must face... the KINGS champion...
He did nothing to you.... why... why'd you do it...
(each ... being a pause)
there's that but theres also: "what's out there that's so facinating?"
which is a complete sentence
Ohh yeah you're right there is a lot of pause in his speech, but he is missing the "mmh" so maybe it means that there is a change about his confidence ?
Like he is way more confident about what to say as he know everything that "should" happends ? And he is very angry when something isn't at its place ?
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there is a brief pause between "there" and "that's"
you mean... a breath??
It seems, like we human could literally say that without a pause 😭
Not when youre being dramatic and adding pauses
and...?
maybe Dominus is a drama queen
oh but the biggest oof on the theory that they sound the same: different accents
I meant spoken in complete manner, with pauses for dramatic effect, not rell's type of pausing
They do have different accents, so that make it even weirder, like... Do we know anyone in control of the void that could be that strong ? Since Rell was literally the strongest ?
then again, rell has managed to squeeze out more complete sentences in his memories
They have different accents?
I think that duviri is coming on April 21
To me one sounds like an unconfident nerdy american while dominus sounds like an uppity british brat
i hope a wednesday lol
Well one sentence here and there from Dominus might have dramatic pauses yes. Point was that Dominus during the Delphius fight wasn't exactly being theatrical.
Well his accent itself sound american in both cases to me... Dominus thrax sounds to me like an american accent trying to pretend to speak like olden days uppity british brats but without changing how the words are pronounced
really? seemed extremely theatrical to me, theres a dramatic pause between each subject(?)
Now the cowardly Knight (thing 1)
Must face (action)
The king's champion (thing 2)
sounds like an announcer type beat and less rell
which is capped off with "Enter Denphius"
when i saw "announcer" i thought of cephalon shark.
Like dominus is cephalon shark
so what youre saying is that Dominus has a different accent than Rell
In general the setting of Duviri is of a stage play, but none of the characters sound like Dominus despite them being in the stage play setting.
Not at all... changing your accent changes how you pronounce words. Dominus didn't immediately seem to pronounce individual words in a british accent
"Why does he keep trying to leave" doesn't sound british at all
you sure? "How dare he keep trying to leave" screams Arthur from Merlin
A specific set of words can be said in any accent, words themselves are not an accent.
The words are chose from a play-type setting, yes. But the pronunciation of each word...
Then again, I'm not a native English speaker so I might just not be perfect at identifying a british accent.
Tl;Dr: Basically if I did a british accent impersonation of Dominus, I'd sound quite different from him
Well, then we have to agree to disagree, because if I did british brat, and pitched up my voice I'd be dominus
For example Ballas has a theatrical way of speaking like Dominus does, but Ballas's accent is markedly British
Not to mention Rell is intentionally playing the role of a theatrical narrator in that entire setting.
might be because theres at least 20 british accents
I need to cross reference it more but its sounding somewhere between queen's english, contemp RP and cockney
might be because the actual VA is not british putting on a british accent


