tennogen-creation-discussion

[edgy whale]

oh i see

[celest nest]

And when you're done with that, you add wrinkles and stuff to those smaller rocks

[edgy whale]

i got to take a lil break tho

to cleanse my mind

my mind-brain needs rest-sleep

i havent played any videogames in awhile

[celest nest]

Don't work too much every day. You roughly have 4~ hours of concentration per day.

Just working more in general doesn't help anyone, you gotta work smurter

[edgy whale]

but with that helmet i like what ive done so far, but the edits ive had to make to the bottom for clipping reasons are taking away from the original image

concept or idea

what do you think about cloth physics?

[celest nest]

Also try to not get too attached to your shapes

[edgy whale]

to actually make a hood bottom

[celest nest]

You're gonna change them a thousand times

I'm not sure about that.

You do not rig. DE rigs. The less they have to rig, the more chances it will pass.

I'm not entierly sire how to incorporate cloth into your helmet yet

other than tendrils

[edgy whale]

well i was thinking chopping off the bottom half and attaching it via fleshy cloth

like one of the syandanas

[celest nest]

??

[edgy whale]

i forget what its called

you looked at the most recent version right?

[celest nest]

Yes

[edgy whale]

hows it look

[celest nest]

I'm not sire side spikes work

I also think it's still a tad too massive, but not too big

Back needs work, it doesn't flow well yet

[edgy whale]

yeah i like what i had before better tbh

i should take it in a different direction

its just the neck clipping thats gonna drive me nuts

is there a way to test the animations?

[celest nest]

Not really no

Or at least setup for it is so complex that you should instead just eyeball it

(And it also comes at the end, not start)

What I would suggest, if oyu insist on hood

Is making core of the head first, attaching tendrils to it

And then slapping on top the plates, or hood, and making them thin

Btw, here's how my very very first helmet looked like

It was rather... chaotic.

[edgy whale]

how do you make things thin

i forgot to ask this

like is there an opposite of solidify

also im thinking the core of his head is a glowing pearl

on a bed of flesh

[celest nest]

Careful with large glowing objects

They need to be worked into composition somehow

For thin things you can just model a 2D plane

And then solidify it. It's the most practical approach

[edgy whale]

oh so just redo it

[celest nest]

Alternatively, what is even more practical, is hide majority of the thin part

For example, by tucking cloth close to the face. Nobody is going to be able to see INSIDE trhe face, so there's no need to model te inside of the cloth

[edgy whale]

why do the warframe mesh faces look like diamonds instead of squares?

[celest nest]

Let me show

[edgy whale]

how do i do that?

[celest nest]

Hm?

Diamonds? Sho

[edgy whale]

i cant rn

remind me later next time i send you any kind of blender screenshot

i should look at ivaras head later

[celest nest]

Do you mean this

[edgy whale]

no

i mean when you go in edit mode

[celest nest]

Mhm, I see the faceting

[edgy whale]

guru taught me squares

[celest nest]

That's just what happens when you edit. You start with squares, and eventually they turn distorted, especially when sculpting

You need to remesh them

[edgy whale]

oh actually wisps

i should do something like that

thats probably her body

the bottom part

wait, is it?

[celest nest]

I have no idea what you're talking about

If you're talking about pulled faces on mesh grid, you need to either increase the subdivision level to hide them, or to remesh them to fix them (remeshing might remove your small details)

[edgy whale]

oh no, im just wondering if im doing something wrong and i need to fix it early

[celest nest]

Generally speaking, your high poly is dirty, will have errors, mistakes and problems

Your job is to hide them, not make it perfect

[edgy whale]

could i make the pearl translucent like a ghost?

if it was just a swirling ball of water that would be awesome

can parts have animated textures?

[celest nest]

Yes

But it's somewhat advanced texturing shenanigans, you sure you can do it

[edgy whale]

ill see how i feel once every other aspect is done

physical pearl if i just want to be done with it, water ball if ive still got the ambition

[spark condor]

It’s always worth a go

[native mirage]

Anyone designing something For Xaku? Like a helmet? I’d love to see that :>

[harsh root]

I was trying to do something Zaku inspired but in a really abstract way

Was having trouble understanding how Xaku's model works

I'll get back to it eventually cause the idea I have visualised in my head seems like it might work out well but rn it's kinda just a matter of getting stuff to render right in Blender

[edgy whale]

so this is just the first step

im gonna do it in small sessions like your reccomended @celest nest . however how to i reseal the shell mesh i cut open

if i cant, it doesnt really matter cause ill be adding more plates

but if it can simplify things later lemme hear it

you see how i cut it open

[edgy whale]

i was gonna make it look less like an airbag later on but i realized it looks like a water bear

[coral seal]

Guys, u guys can make tenno outfit? Or just warframe/weapon skins?

[coral seal]

This is getting really good btw

[edgy whale]

ty @coral seal

[coral seal]

^^

[edgy whale]

you mean operator?

[coral seal]

Yea

[edgy whale]

people can make eyewear at least i know that

[coral seal]

My friends just call him tenno in brazil

[edgy whale]

theres like 5 plat ones and like 20 tennogen

[coral seal]

Facial things i know it can be done

[edgy whale]

whats your name mean?

[coral seal]

But what about the closes? Like helmet, armor, pants

[edgy whale]

horse?

[coral seal]

Soap lmao

[edgy whale]

lol

[coral seal]

Its soap in portuguese but poorly translated

The "right" way to write it is something like

"Sabão"

[edgy whale]

that sounds so familiar

but yeah so its like meme language like saying doge instead of dog or birb instead of bird?

[coral seal]

Yea

[edgy whale]

the most amazing meme ive ever seen was brazillian

the one with the guy accused of racism

[coral seal]

If u let me, i would be happy to make a fan art from your creation when u finish it

[edgy whale]

lol sure

[coral seal]

Thank you ^^

I'll be waiting for conclusion

[edgy whale]

you got it

[coral seal]

That was a missclick

Ignore the sticker lol

[edgy whale]

yeah i was still trying to decipher it lol

dont worry janny bot

the name is misleading

[shell talon]

Please refrain from posting things unrelated to Warframe, and things referencing racism.

[edgy whale]

ok

[rotund nova]

??

I know it says the message got deleted but now it just leads back to the image of your helmet and that really makes no sense in context.

[celest nest]

I'm not sure if Blender has close holes modifier, but I'd either 1. bridge them, or, if too high poly, 2. using additive boolean operation, plugged it and then massaged lump into place.

[edgy whale]

how do i select the torn edge?

[rotund nova]

ah ok

that's a bit bizarre tho ngl

[celest nest]

Alt+ double left click on the edge you want to select

[harsh root]

Anyone know if DE wants Xaku to have all the separated portions like the original. Potentially also keeping the mask proportional so it works with the default animation set?

talking specifically the head

[harsh root]

Hmmmm

I'm going to try to post the images somewhere else and use a link apparently anything I draw or sculpt is explicit

Can't tell if it's not embedding for a reason or what I'm just going to make a larger image with all the layers and hope that works

[edgy whale]

my beard tentacles were pretty phallic until i stole @fickle spruce 's design lol

[harsh root]

Trying this

Not going to go further with this till I can actually get Xaku in game and see how it's animation sets work

[fickle spruce]

More power to you 🙂 - I’d try to variate them from mine some though - just because it’s literally an official rule of tennogen.

But, you have my blessing otherwise 🙂

[celest nest]

Instead of tendrils, make them like crawdad legs

[edgy whale]

eh

ill look on the interweb

[celest nest]

Crab legs

[edgy whale]

no, i know what you meant

oh wait your right it would be a hermit crab

and hes supposed to look like a wizard

huzzah its coming together

maybe, ill have to think about it

[celest nest]

Hermit wizard

[edgy whale]

yes, well what i mean is wizards are often hermits

in fantasy and myth probably

they live alone in a tower in the middle of heckin nowhere

my brother knows all about greek myth he can probably think of a hermit who lives in the sea or is connected to water or something

i think the crab legs should be still wiggly but they could have visible segments

if they had rigid bones that moved with motion it would look bad i feel

so more like pointy tendrils with rings

like segments

[celest nest]

They can be

They might even be animted.

[oblique pewter]

Here's a thought: I know that there's almost no way in hell this would happen, but would it be possible for us to get more Proto skins? Or tennogen that looks similar to proto Excalibur for different warframes?

[celest nest]

It's theoretically possible as long as it doesn't change body mesh, but there's one small problem. Proto skins are usually characters from Dark Sector and might not fit allowed factions

Or they are super old and outdated by warframes timeline suits that again don't fit current style

[harsh root]

Jeez every new warframe I get I get an idea for an alt head

Thinking Caliban but with the head split down the middle like the rest of the body with some nice energy effect stuff in the centre

[vague arrow]

I’ve been thinking,
For a Sentient skin, such as one for Atlas, had the helmet of said skin as like its own Sentient being? Similar to a Vomvalyst that’s essentially a head, so that the rest of the body could be designed kinda like Grendel’s Oni design with the face on torso.

Not necessarily like a mech, more like a mounted ride.

One Sentient guiding / controlling another

[oblique pewter]

There might be a way to make it work, but it'd take a lot of thinking.

[vague arrow]

Kinda like Ferra & Torr from Mortal Kombat X

[edgy whale]

@celest nest cam segmentation be added in the texturing phase, with bump maps?

[edgy whale]

this is my work for today

or this stretch of awake time

[coral seal]

Noice

[celest nest]

Yes, of course, but I'd sculpt it personally and retopologized

Better result

[celest nest]

question

Glow bit on polearm. Should I detail the glowing pustules or keep them smooth

[rotund nova]

at the current stage I'd go with smoother because the left pustules look a tad bit overdetailed

[celest nest]

Ye

That's true.

[rotund nova]

maybe it changes in the future but the smooth version is perfectly fine and fitting

[spark condor]

You could add some of those fine tentacle details around the bone sections I think

[rotund nova]

If it's meant to be infested can always add those tendrils that the cysts have

[ivory glacier]

left looks like it went to the gym xD

[thick root]

Go with smooth, i don't think any of the pustules in-game are that detailed, now even the big tumors

Also all the details might end up being hidden behind the glow

[celest nest]

Yeah I already di

Really wrinkly was looking bad after I realized that this is like a 20cm area max

Now I need to get myself together and finish armor set

[harsh root]

Wack

Got Xaku's base materials loaded in and kinda just surprised to see eyes

[green sand]

So I have to name my stuff if I submit it? What if I can't think of something?

[keen pollen]

Ask here

[digital patio]

Take an adjective. Find the latin or Greek word for it

[edgy whale]

@celest nest i want to make a half circle band like this but i had to do it in a really wierd way and it looks bad. Is there a way to make a semicircle faster?

[ivory radish]

you made me realize that xaku is practically just a bionicle made of different sets

[rotund nova]

bonkle frame

[celest nest]

Yes, you can either just sculpt a new form, or apply rotate modifier to a cross section of a pipe, or the absolute laziest and easier way - just import a primitive torus and delete half of it

There's at least a dozen other different ways of getting this result, but easiest is torus one

Also I noticed your mesh is really dense but also really crumpled. I think you're at the point where you want to remesh it and fix the topology

[edgy whale]

@celest nest which part is crumpled?

im completely removing that band

[edgy whale]

yeah im destroying that

[edgy whale]

but how do you remesh?

[celest nest]

I also see crumplies in here and here. Do you know how to remesh it?

[edgy whale]

no

[celest nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrs5zWwkwpE

It's apparently paid

Hold on, letm e see if it has something in by default

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uosa8k9glXs

In fact, you can even fix y our band this way

By setting voxel size to a little bit large, it will automatically smooth all those peaks and seams

[edgy whale]

ty

[celest nest]

Next PC I build will have 128gb of RAM. I am so tired of capping out and crashing if I dare to listen to Spotify while baking something or texturing stuff above 4k res.

[lime coyote]

Hey guys i need a bit of help, i have the nechramech and the skate but i cant seem to deploy either on missions, it says "vehicle unavailble"

[elder flax]

not quite the right channel to ask but to answer your question, nechramech and k-drive can only be used in open world missions or railjack missions.

[lime coyote]

Oh ok, thanks, and sorry for wrong channel

[eternal galleon]

mostly

[celest nest]

16gb driven me to unreasonable actions

[eternal galleon]

well 16gigs is not enough but not sure if 128 isnt overkill

[thick root]

128

geez

i still have 16, i haven't really been in need for more

Maybe i just have a different workflow

[eternal galleon]

there are workarounds even for 8gigs but it slows you down

[celest nest]

As I'm a certified caveman, I will go for the most bulldozer oriented approach possible

Who needs elegant or clever solutions when you can go for the most overkill possible approach AND possibly break something in the process as a nice little bonus.

[harsh root]

128gb is overkill are you sure it's not a CPU bottleneck? I run an R7 1700x and 48gb of ram and I don't have issues while multitasking while baking high res textures

[keen pollen]

Blender themselves reccomends 32gb of ram and a 8-core cpu

[harsh root]

Heh I used to get by on an A10-6800k and 16gb. Trick is limiting it so you have a spare core for tasks outside of blender

[edgy whale]

yeah when my thing crashes and i check task manager its my ram

i have 16

[forest lake]

That’s too many Rams in the house, you know those animals Headbutt each others and break things?!?!?

Jk

[edgy whale]

its true

[celest nest]

No I know it's overkill

Thats kinda the point, I'm tired of bottlenecking on ram so I'm going to overkill it just because screw you,eat a fat one. The pc I mean.

I'm going to open case and there's just rows of planks

I also have 1700x but 16gb of ram. I tested t before and I know for a fact I'm bottlenecking on ram

It's been bane of my existence since I bought this pc because I'm stingy with money (as you'd expect) and only get things I ca no longer put away.

[thick root]

All of this because vulbjorn sculpts purely with dynamesh and refuses to use zremesher lol

[celest nest]

I use rememsher

When I finalize.

I just sometimes forget

[radiant lodge]

Please only choose one channel to post your image. Thank you.

[harsh root]

Do we know if it's ok for the Xaku skull to have eyes considering the base model does?

[harsh root]

Did some basic shape sculpting for a Xaku skull, unsure if I'm going to use it for anything not sure if it's worth using. Kinda wanted to keep the form sorta ambiguous. Feedback would be appreciated (keep in mind this is basically just me prototyping ideas)

[indigo relic]

Looks a bit too symmetrical, but a nice mashing of different things into one

[harsh root]

That's the thing the base Xaku head is pretty much symmetrical

But yeah I wouldn't get into asymmetry till later in the design if I choose to do so

[indigo relic]

That's true enough

[sleek vapor]

uhh

[edgy whale]

whats that pad stylus thing called

the cheaper one

[celest nest]

Huion?

[torn shore]

When do Tennogen stuff get added to the game? Is it every anniversary?

Just wanted a certain Revenant Helmet to come in is all

[reef depot]

Quick question, are spearguns eligible for Tennogen skins? Seems like a huge shame that such a unique weapon lacks the number of skins it deserves

[radiant lodge]

Tennogen usually gets added in during other updates, whenever they are done. Really big updates (like New War) sometimes have them, but New War was so big they didn't have time, and 21 release was pushed to early next year. The schedule for Tennogen 22 is still on course.

[eternal galleon]

we cant do spearguns

[reef depot]

Very sad

[torn shore]

So...Tennogen 21's date changed but TG22 is still same?

[spark condor]

We may not be able to do the models for any but doesn’t mean we can’t have people sketch their ideas for spearguns when we’re able to

[reef depot]

It'd be great to have that happen some day. They're real fun to take pics of, just need more skin variety haha

[vague arrow]

Usually the issue with doing certain types of weapon skins and such, is mainly due to animations

I think Spearguns share the same firing and throwing anims and such, but I think do differ in reloads

That's why the probably "easiest" non-Melee weapons to allow for TG at first, would probably be Bows and Throwing weapons, albeit still complicated

Not that I would expect every type of TG design for non-Melee weapons skins to have 'unified reload animations', but then that would require DE to basically give access to skeleton / animation tools to TG creators as well, and idk how complex that stuff would be

[forest lake]

About as complex as listing each part of the human genome

[ivory imp]

throwing weapons would be so cool

ive already made two skins for those LOL

[ivory radish]

Considering we got tennogen armor despite not even hoping to come this far, there's hope for firing weapon skins

[celest nest]

We still could make fan creations for just presentation and portfolio reasons

[humble nymph]

Someone needs to make a poncho for me to put in Mesa prime or something to add to the western feel she has.

[vague arrow]

Well, I'm pretty sure Armor for the most part, only required DE to figure out the skeleton placements of the attachments for them to work, which is probably easier than creating new skeleton animations and then some for the weapon itself :y

[reef depot]

I think a better comparison is probably stuff like Nidus’s mutations. Tho I’m sure that’s less complicated than reload animations

[celest nest]

Theoretically, DE could do something with allowing us to use precanned animations where we provide a firearm + magazine model swaps, which just plug into already existing skeleton exactly coinciding with where weapon is held, and reloaded.

Kinda like what kitguns do, and I think this would be the simplest way for them to allow us to skin firearms.

(as soon as they do so, I'm making AK 74)

[reef depot]

That would definitely make sense if it's just plug-and-play like that

Would love to see Tennogen unleashed on every in-game item

[celest nest]

Is it heresy to prefer polymer frame over wood grain

[rotund nova]

what kind of frame are we talking?

[celest nest]

AK pattern

[rotund nova]

I personally just like the look of wood more but that's an aesthetical opinion

other than that idc and wouldn't say it's heresy

[celest nest]

Alright

Well, I mean, AK have both wood and polymer, I just prefer visually polymer

So it's technically not heresy, it's just more classical to have wood

[rotund nova]

sometimes wood can be very distracting

like having a car body with a wooden look

which in return is so abstract that I love it

[celest nest]

How about

[thick root]

Isnt the closest gun we have to ak, the soma?

[rotund nova]

yes

[celest nest]

Soma is more like chauchat

[thick root]

No wait its the karak

[celest nest]

Or I'd even go like

[rotund nova]

t'is a weird lookin' gun

[celest nest]

Soma is chauchat magazine, strapped onto an upside down Enfield, with twin forward push AR15 buttons on hte side

And it's stock is ????

[thick root]

Grineer can rush b with their karaks

[celest nest]

They cannot, because Karaks are obviously ARs

Not AKs

[rotund nova]

kAR/AKs

[celest nest]

Soma Prime

[rotund nova]

effectively

[sinful coral]

not wrong

[eternal galleon]

Adidas Ak47

[slender roost]

i suggest there should be necramech skins for tennogen

[digital patio]

hey, an assault rifle skin with a magazine like that would be great

[torn shore]

Are we allowed to make some concepts for stance mods? I know this is irrelevant in this section, but if one were to animate a new stance movelist and propose the idea to DE, is that allowed?

[radiant lodge]

Allowed in general, or allowed to be posted in this channel, specifically?

In general, yes, it's allowed.

In this channel specifically, no. That would belong in Fan Art, as stances and animations are not part of Tennogen.

[green sand]

We only talk about skins here

[vague arrow]

well, specifically TennoGen stuff but yeah

[slender roost]

let add one of sevagoth tennogen

[lethal smelt]

I would love some tennogen love for my sevababy

[ivory imp]

Moonman and I are working on a helmet

[celest nest]

I'm personally not working on his until I'm allowed to make separate helmet for shadow

[ivory imp]

I kinda want to see if Moon wants to make it a skin but I’m lazy and don’t wanna edit the shadow

[native mirage]

I always wanted Sevagoth to have a helmet that kinda looks like he is wearing one of these hats, Sevagoth in my eyes looks kinda like a Mafia boss lol

[oblique plume]

agreed

[native mirage]

also, why dosnt Sevagoths Shadow have a alt helmet? I dont like putting on Sevagoth's alt helmet because it dosnt match his shadow

[celest nest]

We don't know, and this is also why I'm not making a skin yet.

I want to do a different shape, and it will not match shadow

[spark condor]

I might try and do something for maybe Vauban

Not sure though

[native mirage]

heres a idea i had for Vauban, Imagine Corpra Vauban :0

[atomic marsh]

somebody know ,when crossplay its here? (sorry my english is basic) xD

[reef depot]

Projected to be early 2022

[atomic marsh]

Thank you! ,im really hype for this ,to play with my friends xd

[junior pike]

warframe tennogen round 21 release date, any news?

[keen pollen]

Soon™️

Should be this month or around

[torn blaze]

Im really just waiting for the day i see another hildryn tennogen in the showcase chat

[wide plume]

At least we have her deluxe to look forward to.

[onyx arch]

If/when after you have your tennogen in the game, can you legally work on other games? Just trying to understand the legal stuff for tennogen

[celest nest]

Yes, of course. You're still free agent. The only limitation is that if you join DE, you can no longer work on tennogen due to conflict of interest

[eternal galleon]

Yes we are free to drain our soul in other projects too

But when you do tennogen, for most of us its enough

[celest nest]

(In Laymen terms, we're lazy)

[onyx arch]

thank you for clearing this up for me

[celest nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/309399578212433931/928306004444196884/unknown.png did a little smol easter egg for Revenant

Happy dreams, tenno.

(Nobody will know it's there as long as you have helmet on, but I will, and now you will too.)

[reef depot]

LMAO

I will be getting a captura shot of that 😏

[celest nest]

Can you still bug the helmet out to be invisible?

[reef depot]

You can bug captura to get a noclip camera

But I do think there's a way to remove the helmet somehow as well

[celest nest]

Baked pretty well. If fits, so it sits.

[reef depot]

I love this so much LOL

[eternal galleon]

why

[celest nest]

Enable Extreme Ultra-Violence.

[eternal galleon]

I already feel bad for people who will get no helmet bug

[celest nest]

That's why.

[reef depot]

Evil genius. Now I wonder how many other weird things people put on the inside of models

[celest nest]

Actually every single one of my skins has an easter egg hidden somewhere.

[reef depot]

I have a new mission

[celest nest]

Sometimes they're more subdued, sometimes they're more obvious

[eternal galleon]

most of us do 5 strokes because its hidden and texture UVs dont support too many details

[celest nest]

Most of you are not psychopaths.

[reef depot]

LOL

[eternal galleon]

https://i.imgur.com/EARCBHs.png

[celest nest]

And me?

[reef depot]

Petition for a new discord emote

[eternal galleon]

stop showing that wisp

it makes ma pp go up

[celest nest]

I ALWAYS hide stuff in impossible to access places

If nobody can see it, I SPECIFICALLY put in more effort.

[eternal galleon]

i am blind, i see nothing there

[celest nest]

I put an engine there.

It's just low res

[eternal galleon]

V8 with an Supercharger?

[celest nest]

Or remember my Garuda?

[eternal galleon]

Ye

[eternal galleon]

you know whats funny

[celest nest]

I think this sits on the inside of her helmet.

[eternal galleon]

some people make these unintentionally

[celest nest]

Not even the neck, just in the absolutely impossible to see area

[eternal galleon]

Most of my helmets consist of one full mesh and some tiny accessories that cannot hold this kind of beauty 🙂

[celest nest]

Most of my models consist of coffee and rum induced visual hallucinations.

Multiplied by listening to KMFDM and Ministry a little too loudly.

[eternal galleon]

lol

[celest nest]

Well, back to work I guess. That's enough having fun for one week.

[eternal galleon]

ye was about to do same. . time to work on lavos

[celest nest]

Lavos time.

[reef depot]

Alright so noclip is a pain to use for this lmao Neck stumps are easy, but other areas not so much

[celest nest]

I'm silent.

if you find them, you find them. If not - it's a scooby dooby doo mystery

But I do not believe my earlier works have a lot of if any easter eggs

[reef depot]

Okok that narrows it down at least LOL

The needle is in a different haystack

[celest nest]

Specifically Nyx was just me wanting to finish it

[reef depot]

Ahh ok. I'll see if I can find some in Harrow

[reef depot]

My friend checked the skins I don't own yet. This is Ash

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/658122211584114700/928321698510540821/unknown.png

Garuda lmao

Does Harrow even have one 🤔

[celest nest]

Tbh, don't remember.

I think yes. But I also had to rework his helmet, so I might've forgotten to include it.

[reef depot]

I just see smoothness

[celest nest]

Might not have it.

[reef depot]

Sadge

Poor smooth boyo

[celest nest]

Such is life.

[reef depot]

Sometimes you're smooth, sometimes you have a face inside your neck

Always a tossup

[celest nest]

I like to call them "Hidden Friends"

It's kinda like the creature that everybody holds in their cupboard, you know. Hidden friend. Only this one is inside your neck.

[reef depot]

There are definitely interesting implications in that message

Oh I get it. Harrow is a tragic loner and this is a metaphor

Well executed

[celest nest]

Harrow has been Excomunicated from Church of Friends

[reef depot]

😔

[celest nest]

Now he has to sell used car warranty to feed his family of 40 children and two divorced wives.

(he has drinking problem)

btw, you know what kinda surprised me?

[reef depot]

Shoot

[celest nest]

Nob

Nobody made Nemesis tonfa.

[reef depot]

What's the point if it doesn't attach to your whole entireass arm??

[celest nest]

Well, would be nice to have a full set I think. So I think I'll make it.

[reef depot]

👀

[celest nest]

Have to finish Nadia's skin. Nemesis is not finished without her glaive, even if all we can have is twin tonfas

[reef depot]

An organic-lookin tonfa does sound nifty

[celest nest]

I dunno how popular tonfas are tho

[eternal galleon]

in 2020 they were quite popular after greatswords and polearms

[celest nest]

I hate polearm stances.

[eternal galleon]

heresy

[celest nest]

They are awful to use. THey're only useful to speen

Only thing that is worse to use is twin daggers

[eternal galleon]

you just cant use them lol

[celest nest]

I can, I just do not like the moves

I much more prefer stuff like twin blades with swirling tiger

[eternal galleon]

idk man I think polearm stance right now is one of the best ingame right now, I used to love 2H nikana one, but then they ruined it with new melee stance system

[celest nest]

Yeah, not a fan of new melee system.

[reef depot]

I remember polearms flowing a lot better before

[eternal galleon]

i loved to E pause E and then do that spin attack with lorge katana

[celest nest]

Some of my favorite stances are the SnS where you yeet the shield in the general groinal direction of the enemy, and glaive ones.

The new one tho

Old one sucks.

[eternal galleon]

"new" it came out with tyl regor update lol

[celest nest]

It's new to me.

I lived for a thousand years, son.

[eternal galleon]

gotcha but even damn lavos is old now

[celest nest]

My wrinkly arms with wrinkly fingers have touched many weapons.

[eternal galleon]

for me new is like revenant and such xD

[celest nest]

I am old, son.

[eternal galleon]

ok boomer

[reef depot]

Revenant feels ancient at this point

2018 jeez

[eternal galleon]

yeah like if you play the game . . "new" means year old max

[celest nest]

I am so old.

[reef depot]

I took a year off so my perception is very skewed LOL Lavos will be new to me for another year at least

[celest nest]

Please, shildren, find my wheelchair

[reef depot]

Times have changed, old man

[celest nest]

No, it can't be.

I remember times, when fidget spinners existed.

Oh the fun we had!

[lyric abyss]

do they not like tennogen for guns?

[celest nest]

We're just not allowed to make them due to complexity or rigging guns on DE's side.

[reef depot]

It would be too powerful

[rotund sage]

That reminds me of hell knight from doom eternal

[wide plume]

I remember when Tennogen was a brand new concept and only for a couple weapons. The skins were legit too, limited though the array was, and you purchased with platinum, not steam balance.

[reef depot]

Console still purchases with plat haha

[eternal galleon]

You need to understand that Tennogen Artists are not paid monthly by DE, but Steam, you being able to pay platinum on consoles is mostly because Artist had to sell rights to DE for limited amount one time payment which is often sometimes a fraction of what could item make in revenue if it had used the PC system. Sometimes its the other way around but not very often.

Most of us have to put most of the time in our work in order for it to appear ingame and for 3/4 artists, the console system alone wouldnt be sufficient to keep them running

just an insight, but I understand that players like to pay plat because they can earn it from other player

[celest nest]

I sustain myself on consuming cement and dry wall and I'm very thankfull to DE for allowing me to continue leading this healthy lifestyle.

[reef depot]

This is a big reason why I’m totally fine with paying irl dollars for tennogen. I’m buying both a cosmetic and a piece of art.

I’m still curious to know how DE will handle tennogen purchases crossplatform once crossplay hits. My initial idea was that they would let people keep their owned tennogen if they switch platforms, and then lock the cosmetics to whatever platform they’re purchased on going forwards. Ofc I have no idea how complicated that would be to develop, but it seemed like a decent compromise.

[celest nest]

You know what I love

[reef depot]

Cement

[celest nest]

WEll, besides that

I love almost finishing the work, and then going and looking at it again and thinking "Hmmmmm, this could be improved", and doing this 20 times in a row, adding twice the time I spent on the base skin.

[reef depot]

Hell yeah, huge mood

That can only be incredibly worthwhile and not maddening at all

:’)

[celest nest]

It is very satisfying

Imean, nobody asks me to do it, I decide to do it myself

[reef depot]

That’s fair. I guess that’s just part of things. I spend more time agonizing over slight details in my work than I do coming up with ideas, and sometimes it feels like I’m only worrying about stuff no one will notice. But still, I’d rather be fully satisfied.

[celest nest]

It can vary

For example, small details like fingers

Here's hands I made for rev, each finger individually made

And on one had - nobody will notice them if they're present

On ANOTHER hand, however - everybody will notice if they're NOT present or are undetailed and just like painted rubber gloves

(And I believe that hands might be one of my strongest areas in skins personally. Maybe I'm wrong)

[reef depot]

Yeah, all the details do add up. I definitely appreciate when a skin has decent thought put into each part and I definitely don’t have an entire album of Warframe hand Captura on my phone

[celest nest]

So basically my point is, small insignificant details might be a significant part of the whole composition, even if on their own they're hard to notice and appreciate - you notice their abscence more.

[reef depot]

Makes perfect sense

[celest nest]

And my second point is

[eternal galleon]

vulbjorn

u think too much

[celest nest]

If you never did, listen to WEEN, it's a great band.

[eternal galleon]

just swoosh on screen and upload it

[celest nest]

Damn, you're right.

Duuuuude

I minimize Zbrush, it decides to autosave in background

I switch back to it, it's still saving, it detects the click, crashes

Nice.

[eternal galleon]

16gig ram right there

That doesnt happen to me anymor

[celest nest]

DO NOT question my gigachad energy, I am extremely efficient with my limited resources.

It's like computer kung fu

[eternal galleon]

So u closed chrome and call that cool?

Jk m8 imma goin to walk outside

[celest nest]

Ok, it managed to autosave

[eternal galleon]

Clear sky after a month or so 👌

[celest nest]

Pain

WHy am I complaining, I wodner, instead of going and ordering a few more sticks.

[reef depot]

Oooooocean mannnnn

[celest nest]

And Buckingham Green, and Transdermal Celebration

Ween is music industry's best kept secret.

And the Argus

If i had to describe Ween somehow, I'd say that any time you listen to them, they sound like a long forgotten song you heard once in your childhood and couldn't find for 20 years, even if you never heard them.

[vagrant sorrel]

Please listen to another song from them 🤣 they're awesome. See.... 😎

[celest nest]

Ocean Man is the most famous their song because you know, it's a meme, but the band itself is wild, and it's not that they're popular because of SPongebob, but more like that Spongebob writers loved Ween and invited them.

They feel like liquid nostalgia

Ok, good bye, I'm going to work on Rev's legs now. I've spammed enough.

[native mirage]

Hey guys, i need your help, I want to try to use Blender to make some Tennogen, but its my first time, can yall help me pls?

[eternal galleon]

if you are starting out, its best for you to study basic on youtube from superior tutorials

Try searching " sculpting for beginners in blender" or "blender tutorial" and you will find plenty of content

once you are familiar with tool then we can talk further on tennogen topics

[native mirage]

ah thxs

[dusk rampart]

how exactly does getting tennogen stuff work on PC

I don't run Warframe through steam, would that be an issue?

[reef depot]

Yep

[celest nest]

I am

Filling Revenant with eyeballs

Very insightful young man

[reef depot]

Yo off top this guy lookin like as long as this card remains face-up on the field, other monsters cannot change their positions or attack. This monster can take on the ATK and DEF of 1 opponent's monster on the field (a face-down monster results in an ATK and DEF of 0). Treat the selected monster as an Equip Magic Card and use it to equip "Thousand-Eyes Restrict". You can use this effect only once per turn and can equip "Thousand-Eyes Restrict" with only 1 monster at a time.

[celest nest]

I actually thought of calling him the Argus

[spark condor]

Nice Yugioh reference there

[reef depot]

Really glad someone got that lmao

[spark condor]

Well it was my childhood growing up so

[shell talon]

This is unrelated to the channel topic, but cross-play and save should be coming this year.

[vague arrow]

Infested Caliban Skin whose helmet is also split down the middle in a venus fly trap styled form so it looks like the entire body is the mouth of said helmet 🤔

[celest nest]

Ok.

[vague arrow]

well that was easy

[rotund sage]

Wouldn't it be funny if someone made an excalibur prime helmet as a tennogen?

[oblique shore]

They would never accept it

[celest nest]

We can make kinda-ish Prime, but not direct copy, and also without golden bits and bobs.

[onyx arch]

Bootleg Excalibur Prime helmet?

[rotund nova]

Excalibur "Bootleg" helmet?

[proper kettle]

<Gasp> it's the Great Boot-Leg

[versed pilot]

Excalibur BEP Helm

[celest nest]

I think maximum edge achieved

Now I need to go work on his bushi

... and the rest of his set.

[solid pulsar]

Calling all TennoGen creators! In case you missed it, Caliban files are now available. We can't wait to see your Skin & Alt-Helmet ideas for the Sentient and Warframe hybrid!

Learn more & get started here: https://wrfr.me/3tefZzV

[celest nest]

I'm splitting him in two.

[harsh root]

I was going to do the same thing lol

[frozen acorn]

Cant wait to see what they do with Caliban

ik Sentients arent supposed to be symmetrical but like cmon

[worldly crane]

imagine they make a hole new type of warframe but insted of prime it would the sentient, like sentient mesa, or sentient Gara

imagine the possibilities

[harsh root]

I mean

We already got those with the new skins for Volt

And Mesa

Like that's what the Mesa Projectilyst and Volt Electrolyst are supposed to be I think

[dapper sierra]

Question about tennogen, is there a voting process? How does a piece get implemented information to go over would be great!

[rotund nova]

Basically votes on Steam mean jacksh*t and DE fully decides on what they accept into the game and what not.

If a piece breaks rules it's obviously disqualified unless the creator fixes that. If a piece is thematically and rulewise cool but not up to technical standards (i.e. bad textures, changes the silhouette too much, or just not to industry standard etc.) DE will try to give as good of advice as they can. Sometimes a creator just has to adjust a few things, sometimes they have to go back to square one and overhaul the entire thing (with the same base concept in mind that is).

If a workshop item is technically cool to be accepted but DE decided they wanted to give the slots for the TennoGen round to other pieces (which we have no insight into) the piece can still be accepted into the next round if the creator tweaks it and effectively makes a 2.0 version of it. If they don't it automatically gets disqualified until they rework it for a future round.

If I got something wrong or there's some crucial information missing anybody feel free to correct the hell out of this.

[worldly crane]

[celest nest]

Mostly right, except for one thing, there's no slots. DE can accept as many, or as little items as they want. They never leave something out to let something else in

(Which is how we got 4 Wisps in a row last round)

[rotund nova]

Oh yeah sorry, I didn't mean it literally. It was more of a visualisation that DE won't just accept 20 skins even if those were all thematically and technically up to standard.

[celest nest]

(And could've gotten like 4 more if someone uploaded more wisps in time)

I actually am not sure. We had rounds that had, I think, up to 38 items in them

[rotund nova]

Items, yes, but not everything was a warframe skin (although I think syandanas and stuff cause alot more work for DE)

[eternal galleon]

thematically and technically up to standard is criteria for beginners

later on when you ae caught up, they most of the time present changes and ideas how to make item a "worthwhile" thing and not just tons of B tier stuff

[dapper sierra]

@rotund nova question, does Tennogen need to be warframe parts?

Can I work on stuff for companions?

[eternal galleon]

No

Only skins,melee,armor,syandanss, operator accessories

And alt helmets

[rotund sage]

Is it allowed to make annoperator armor as a tennogen?

[celest nest]

No

[rotund nova]

At this point we should prolly just put the link to the TennoGen guide here

Which I'd do but work wifi prohibits access to videogame sites

[celest nest]

https://www.warframe.com/steamworkshop/help/

[eternal galleon]

#tennogen-resources

[celest nest]

Goooood, I need to rework Ivara.

Why am I so goddamn laaaaaaaaaaaaaazy

[eternal galleon]

Me who have done nothing in 2 years: ok

[celest nest]

You got a car and went on biking adventures.

No one does nothing any given moment, even dead are busy with feeding the soil

But I do have some problems with prioritising my problems.

[proven nacelle]

cries Great, ZBrush is probably going to go down the toilet after being acquired by the Cinema4D people and Blender is crummy for high poly sculpting. I'm never going to realize any of my TennoGen ideas now. D;

[celest nest]

While is kinda sucks what Maxon already doing, we still have an incredibly complete, advanced and comfortable package to make absolutely mad ideas into reality, with or without updates

And in case everything else fails, ICBMs still exist and we know where Maxon's HQ is located.

What I'm trying to say is that you can realistically realise your potential with it already, if you try. I believe in you, and this frog believes in you too.

Frogs are honestly very nice. Round, soft, poisonous, extremely aggressive, territorial and cannibalistic

[eternal galleon]

Indeed, I have frog night soundtrack every day in summer

[tawny ferry]

froog ineed

[celest nest]

A frog in need is a frog indeed

[cedar wasp]

You have a way with words

[devout forge]

Very accurate resemblance of Ivara

[subtle saffron]

[proven nacelle]

I’m just at a point where I’m wondering if it’s even worth trying to learn, tbbh… I think I’d be better off finding someone who knows about ZBrush (ie one who doesn’t have that weird square halo around a brush when you try to sculpt) more than I and work with them on something… idk idk

Besides, the idea I really want to do (Necramech-inspired Titania) is probably off limits lmfao oh wel

[celest nest]

Totally worth it, if only even for fun. Plus they introduced some cheaper subscription options now, if you do want to spend a grand on it.

[eternal galleon]

You can always go with blender as well

Not sure how "find someone who will do it for me" will work since 90% of tgners are busy af

you will have to have a very decent design that will speak to the artist personally as well otherwise your chances are slim

[celest nest]

Ya bet I'm busy af, today I had a day filled with going to supermarket and finding a nice looking cactus, and some lights for ceiling repair in bathroom

Honestly, not even sure how I managed.

[proven nacelle]

Blender is crap for sculpting tho’.

[forest lake]

But the Blender makes a decent Iced pink lemonade though

[eternal galleon]

well if you dont want to whale out for zbrush, its decent

[celest nest]

It's less than Blender is crap for sculpting, it's more that Zbrush is on such unattainable pedestal, that anything else not 100% specialised into sculpting will feel like crap in comparison.

[eternal galleon]

tru tru

[celest nest]

And, of course, then there's Bryce which is still an unreachable etalon of 3d modelling perfection.

I will insist that we peaked at this level of graphics and should've stayed there forever.

[proven nacelle]

Nah, you're right. I get easily discouraged, but I'll suck it up and give it an honest ol' college try.

[surreal agate]

when is crossave coming out

[split ingot]

No ETA at this time. DE will announce when its out.

[grand spire]

what u guys do when u get bored

[hot cloak]

I really hope there are scythe tennogen skins, it has much potential

[vague arrow]

scythe skins afaik, can't be done through TennoGen because files haven't been released

[rotund nova]

Hello, he is possibility to speak Community or Team to french pls ? or this is a discord french ?

[rotund nova]

Well, everyone's speaking English so it's definitely not a French server. I'd love to redirect you to wherever you're trying to go to but I have no idea if that even exists here.

[celest nest]

Hey, a question. Revenant's flames are tied to second emissive tint, not first, right?

[eternal galleon]

i think they are no longer affected by emissive colors ,rather than their own separate "energy" colors if I remember correctly

[celest nest]

Ok, good.

So I can glow and not have flames

[eternal galleon]

yes

would be cool if you could change the FX and make it as infested virus going out of his body

[celest nest]

And it's such an easy fix

Already got vertex paint, just gotta do a custom scrollling alpha, that's all

[surreal agate]

damn

[loud hinge]

Hey all, I have a random request but my brother loves modding other games where he ports skins over from other games and adapts them. He is intimidated with the idea of learning to do it from scratch and it’s his birthday and I wanted to get him something so I thought I’d ask if there’s a resource or class anyone here took that helped them get started or learn how to tackle working on something like what y’all do? Sorry if this isn’t the right place to ask figured it would be best to just go straight to the experts.

[eternal galleon]

first he needs to figure out how to use tools - software to create custom models and skins, this can be done on youtube

for example, Hydroxate did a decent start for any tennogener, however most of it just points you into direction you need

Once you understand tools like zbrush for example, then you can start learning how to do stuff for example, warframe

99% of us started by searcing "zbrush tutorial" or "blender tutorial" in youtube

I can say that Michael Pavlovich or Blender Guru channels on youtube cover this entirely

After you understand fundamentals, you can reach out here to ask more detailed info for warframe specific items and techniques

[celest nest]

Baptism by anvil and donut

[eternal galleon]

and sphere

[celest nest]

Which one

Shouldn't it also be Chair, Anvil and Holy Donut?

[eternal galleon]

red wax dynamesh sphere

[celest nest]

Must be protestant modeller cult

I didn't learn by sphere, I learned by hmmm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PxbvR57tNI well here's one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQzoW6ye2hA

This is new intro series to Zbrush, if you're goingm to be using it, good idea to follow Pavlovich's tutorials.

[native mirage]

We should have more Samurai skins for warframes

One that looks like this :0

[rotund sage]

Make it an ash skin

[eternal galleon]

oh look its vulbjorn's revenant skin

[celest nest]

Not exaaaaactly

But I can make it closer to it

[dull pike]

Does anyone have any news or updates on the gauss arcsec skin?

[rotund nova]

Only news I got for you is that Arcsec is an alt helmet not a skin

Other than that no news unfortunately

[celest nest]

Arcsec is being worked on by it's creator in another server.

I don't know how much I can say because he's not here

[restive dust]

Are there any Chinese here?

[worn hatch]

:0

[toxic remnant]

anyone having problems logging in?

[worn hatch]

Nope

[young snow]

Hi guys anyone knows when will be implemented the cross save? I want to log on my pc with my ps4 account

[rotund nova]

pls keep non-TennoGen stuff out of here but instead go to #gameplay-discussion or #players-helping-players or whatever... or don't because you're not gonna find anyone with information on cross save other people telling you that there is no information

[light smelt]

anyone wanna like help me make my tennogen helmet idea for nidus, no clue what im doing but ive done a poo poo drawing of it and a poor sculpt in blender so far

[exotic acorn]

ooh nice you draw?

digital or regular?

[light smelt]

yes and no, i have no prior experience nor do i know how to actually draw but i have drawn if that makes sense

like i made this, but i have no clue how to draw

[exotic acorn]

daaang

so beautiful

[light smelt]

thank you lmao, i love the saryn skins with hair and i main nidus and i have long hair irl

[exotic acorn]

colors look good too

[light smelt]

so i wanted to give nidus "hair" like tentacles and make his head more head shaped?

current concept for mutated form (the ends of the hair are meant to float a bit but i didnt want to redraw)

dont know about the mouth thingy (and the teeth are a no go lol)

[exotic acorn]

is that him with the helmet on too?

[light smelt]

wym

[exotic acorn]

are they the same character?

[light smelt]

i mean its a helmet for nidus i want to have in the game if thats what you mean

sorry if im being dumb

[exotic acorn]

oh no i was just making sure

um so... what is tennogen? XD

[light smelt]

w

[exotic acorn]

im over here typing but idk what this chat is for

[light smelt]

uh

you know those skins that cost money? and not plat

[exotic acorn]

yea

[light smelt]

those are made by non de people and they get submitted to be voted on to enter the game

[exotic acorn]

ooh so this would be for fanmade ones?

[light smelt]

those models are called tennogen

yes

[exotic acorn]

wow

thats cool

[celest nest]

Timeout on showcase is kinda hard, so hard to discuss anything

[light smelt]

fr fr

anyway im trying to make a nidus helmet currently but have no idea what im doing

[celest nest]

Realistically, you probably wanna get Blender and try to shape some things in it

SUPER REAL you want ZBrush, but you know, Zbrush costs mucho dinero

[light smelt]

is what im doing but that being said i dont know how to make it tennogen ready besides the sheet saying it needs to have this and that

zbrush so expensive :((((

[celest nest]

Do you have any past modelling experience?

[light smelt]

lmao nah, it said "you should prolly have at least a year of experience!" dont wanna

was thinking of hiring a tennogen person to make it

but dont know who is...hirable

whomst can i commision

[celest nest]

Saying right now ,Imma just too random in my routine to be hireable

Cobalt likes to do collabs tho

[light smelt]

ping em?

[celest nest]

@ivory imp

[ivory imp]

huh

[celest nest]

Are you per chance interdasted in producing a nidus alternative head?

Not with me, with Max

[ivory imp]

i see

[light smelt]

love nidus

wanted to make a nidus with tentacle hair like saryn

cant model, barely draw.

[ivory imp]

maaaaaaaaaybe, i haven't had a lot of infested sculpt practice if any and i have a back log of stuff to make as well 😦

[celest nest]

That's hm

[light smelt]

i mean its not like anyone else can help so if you ever get through that stuff and feel like it make sure ya message me

[celest nest]

You should first produce a real strong concept art I think

Something to really catch someone

[light smelt]

this is what i got

i really would like to hire a concept artist to do like a multiple view point redrawing of it tho

but money! oh money.

[celest nest]

May I do little sugestion?

[light smelt]

yes

keep in mind idk how to draw and the weird veins were my attempt at like..the infested divots

[light smelt]

did you just make that or

[celest nest]

A few things. DE is usually against just hair on helmets, unless extremely stylized

[light smelt]

but saryn

[celest nest]

Ye, I sketched up to show second point

[light smelt]

how did you draw that good in that fast damn

[celest nest]

You want to do more things that just add hair

I'm high on caffeine

[light smelt]

maybe i should chug coffee to get better

but yeah thats why i need an actual concept artist

[celest nest]

Basically, you want to stay away from actual hair as much as oyu possibly can, and if you really want it - it must be really heavily stylized, like Saryn's

Where she has not hair, but tendrils. Or esomething else

[light smelt]

yeah the idea was that the hair is going to be very similar to those tentacles

[celest nest]

But you also wanna make a really really tight hhelmet under the hair too

[light smelt]

tight as in good or tight as in like actually tight

[celest nest]

Something real unique

[light smelt]

ah yeah still working on that bit

i want the headshape to be more like an actual head

like if you look closely it has more jaw and cheek width

[celest nest]

I mean you could, just you know, we can't make faces and also variopus weird protusions are welcome

[light smelt]

changed the color scheme so the face is white and i wanted the chin lip part to be thinner and the white and go around the whole head

[light smelt]

cant model but this is what i mean

its more headshaped than nidus cause he got the thin sides of the head

[celest nest]

I mean that's how yo ustart

No that's fine

[light smelt]

maybe jaw spikes i could add

[celest nest]

Ye ye experiment

SLowly add more stuff, work on low resolution

[light smelt]

i was also thinking of the mouth openin on mutatio but not where you expect a mouth to be like i posted a little higher

i regret the teeth part though

[celest nest]

If you doing infested, teeth are allowed BUT

Specifically in "places where you would not expect teeth"

And it all should be HEAVILY stylized.

[light smelt]

i made this bit but honestly i think the teeth should be removed

[celest nest]

This for example is a no no

[light smelt]

mhm

cause thats where a mouth would be

instead you gotta make the head split open with teeth

[celest nest]

But like this would be considered a good idea

[light smelt]

das cool

[celest nest]

or like

[light smelt]

funky STUFF

[celest nest]

So basically experiment and push your idea

[light smelt]

i want to draw like ye but im sure you have years of experience kek

[celest nest]

I mean, I was garbanzo some time ago, so you should do more concepts of your stuff

[light smelt]

dont know how to draw and been using mouse so its not like i can practice much kek

[celest nest]

Yeah mouse is a bit rip

but you still can model with it

[light smelt]

this is fun

[rotund nova]

My main question- will we have [New War spoiler] ||Lotus/Natah/Margulis|| tennogen skins?

[light smelt]

huh... thsts a good question

had this idea and, i feel like it has a better chance of being accepted, ima keep drawing different "hair styles

personally i think i really like the head and maybe slight infested aspects could be added but yknow

[light smelt]

also does anyone know how to get the model and files of various enemies? i want to rip the face tentacles off ancients and use them as a reference

[celest nest]

You probably will need to decompile the game or find someone who already did it, they're not readily available assets

A.k.a. just eyeball it .

[light smelt]

damb

[rotund nova]

🎮

[light smelt]

what

[vapid shale]

I wonder if DE will consider Tennogen Necramech skins, or Tennogen Railjack skins

[rotund nova]

Can we pls get TennoGen leg armour first and maybe more operator stuff? The most likely answer to these questions is "no, probably not anytime soon".

[light smelt]

lmao depends on people makin armor, it getting voted, and de thinking its needed so goodluck

[rotund nova]

Yeah because TennoGen necramech and railjack skins are definitely more likely to happen than the simple expansion of what's already possible.

[light smelt]

nah armor is likely

just like... if de wants to add them like anything else

[celest nest]

If we talking necramechs, I want to be able to remodel full mechs, not just retexture

[torn blaze]

Well the operator stuff is gonna be a bit more tricky ||Due to the outfits needing to then fit on drifter||

[rotund nova]

that's precisely what I said

[celest nest]

You know what would be real cool tho

Tennogen based dojo kits

[radiant lodge]

DE has a suggestions forum, you should add that idea.

[celest nest]

Nah, it's an unfeasible idea

It needs too much work with DE for proper implementation for little effect.

[light smelt]

that would be really cool tbh but you know people are going to start uploading like free models they found kek

[celest nest]

Well, it's not impossible to check the maker, it's just there's more logistical nightmare associated with implementing it into the game than potential financial benefit.

[light smelt]

true

still sounds cool tho

[manic mauve]

For those in the know, our Operator file download has been updated with new files and resources to help you make your Accessories! You can find it here: https://www.warframe.com/steamworkshop/help/index.php?page=content-files-and-examples

[radiant lodge]

Oooh! SHINY!

[vernal laurel]

Are you guys also saving plat for next update?

[vernal laurel]

For possible tennogen skins ofc

[rotund nova]

Us PC guys have to save our wallets

[devout forge]

^

[zenith flax]

I hope we get the ability to put warframe armor attachments on operator||/drifter|| on top of the suit. It'd make those customizations go alot further

[solid pulsar]

In case you missed the news during Devstream 159, **the TennoGen Round 22 Deadline is March 7th 2022 at 2PM ET! **

At that time, we will be reviewing all items submitted or updated after September 7th, 2021. If you have an item that has been in the workshop for a long period of time, we highly recommend re-submitting it to avoid any chance of our team missing the updated version. We do our best to catch as many updated pieces as we can, but this is an additional safety measure you can take!

More details can be found here: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1298495-tennogen-round-22-deadline-announce/#comment-12428672

[celest nest]

Time to hurry up

Tho realistically it's plenty of time to finish everything

[rotund nova]

only if procrastination doesn't get the best of you

[thick root]

Which is why we need to learn to set personal deadlines and actually follow them

Especially with multiple projects

[celest nest]

I do it

Sometimes

When I don't get too lazy to set a personal deadline

It's actually kinda difficult to be your own boss because you cannot judge your performance without bias

[wide plume]

Would it help if we spammed you with pictures of Skyrim walruses till you post a finished product? Though for real, I love your Tennogen stuff. Nobody else does the wild zany infested designs.

[celest nest]

Nah, it's ok, I just need to invent calendar for myself

[spark condor]

Well I know what I’m gonna try and do after seeing all those Deluxe Skins

Gonna try and sketch my own for Wisp!

I’ve been inspired again at last lol

[rotund nova]

If the calendar removes mondays I'd buy one

[opaque robin]

Wish I could do stuff with this skin for Vauban I have in my head. Vaguely inspired by a cossack horseman uniform and sentient design for Volt and Mesa. Alas I have no artistic ability.

[rotund nova]

has DE given us a list of which round 21 TennoGen items come with part 1 yet?

[light smelt]

think so

[rotund nova]

all I can find is the list of accepted items for the whole round but not which items come with each part

[ivory imp]

not yet no

[celest nest]

I crave to finally work on something other than infested.

[livid shard]

let me know when you finish, I'm intrigued

[thorny compass]

I think Hydroxate and Debbysheen have been working with this idea for quite a while now.. Bonaparte skin for Vauban

[opaque robin]

Oh I have no artistic ability outside of my head at all. But the design in my skull is nice.

[livid shard]

awwww...

[spark condor]

That looks really cool

Well I know this is a Tennogen discussion but @opaque robin I’m attempting to sketch a basic sketch for a Wisp Deluxe concept so if you have any ideas feel free to shoot me a DM

[opaque robin]

Hmm Wisp maybe. Let me think on it.

[light smelt]

i think this chat is good for tennogen and deluxe concepts cause what is a fan deluxe but an impossible tenogen ez

[spark condor]

True

[spark condor]

Well I think the first part of my Deluxe Skin specifically for the helmet is going well for a basic concept!

[livid shard]

sounds great! care to post?

[spark condor]

I’m just putting some touches on the first part of the helmet mainly the crystal circlet to begin with just give me a few minutes

It’s not detailed but it’s a basic idea of how it’s meant to look as part of the helmet!

I’m going to start on the actual helmet next

[livid shard]

post when you've got that done?

[spark condor]

I just wish I was a better artist so it looks more detailed and all

[livid shard]

ah you're still in the early early stages of things, and these things take time. don't fret about that until you get there

[spark condor]

I mean even if a deluxe skin alone that I sketch makes it into the game I would be very happy!

[spark condor]

What do you think of it so far

[real shoal]

just to be clear, when creating a warframe skin we can only change the diffuse, normal, specular, roughness and emissive but not the body mesh?

but alt helmets are an exception. right?

[rotund nova]

precisely

[real shoal]

ah ok ty

[spark condor]

Deluxe Skins are an exception as well as you can change the body mesh a good bit while still keeping with the aesthetic of the frame itself

If I’m not mistaken

[celest nest]

Deluxe skins are made by DE so they don't adhere to tennogen rules at all

They can be whatever

[rotund nova]

yeah, mentioning deluxe skins in that context is kinda weird and at best distracting if not outright confusing

[light smelt]

though if you are good enough they might reach out to you to design one, rare tho

[thorny compass]

like Liger Inuzuka or Debbysheen ⭐️

[light smelt]

fr

[light smelt]

what... what does... this gotta do with tennogen

[split ingot]

Please keep posts related to #tennogen-creation-discussion thank you

[solid pulsar]

Hi everyone! We've just shared what pieces will be included in Round 21 Part 1 on February 9th!
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1284562-tennogen-round-21-accepted-items-release-date/page/4/#comment-12433469

Warframe Skins
Harrow Algalyst Skin by Goosmo
Wisp Celestist Skin by malaya & Awk’Q-Luz
Titania Pixialyst Skin by kakarrot2812
Wisp Sycorax Skin by Vulbjorn, the graphical walrus.

Syandanas
Fei Syandana by malaya & Jadie
Laprosys Syandana by FrellingHazmot
Draugen Syandana by Goosmo
Eklis Syandana by Goosmo

**Weapon Skins & Armor Pieces **
Ksara Two-Handed Nikana Skin by kakarrot2812
Avyrdi Shoulder Armor by led2012 & lex182

The remaining 11 pieces that make up Round 21 will release a few weeks afterwards (exact date to be announced). See you on February 9th for Update 31.1 Echoes Of War!

[celest nest]

I should remove the walrus part from my steam name.

on another hand, being wildly unprofessional is part of my professional trademark.

[ivory imp]

Let the wisps begin

[celest nest]

I still cannot stop being immensely satisfied with this frog on my php

Which might be a toad.

[light smelt]

all toads are frogs not all frogs are toads, also if i remember correctly its a frog

[rotund nova]

that's a softshell turtle

||it's not||

[radiant lodge]

Lets stay on topic, please

[rotund nova]

right, yes

[spark condor]

I’m so excited for these skins but I might try and save up for a laptop and practice digital art and attempt to design a concept that way

[rotund nova]

oh right, the list for part 1 finally got revealed

really happy that Wisp Sycorax made it

got a plan for it

[torn shore]

Are there any sentient themed armor sets on the works?

[rotund nova]

pls no more sentient stuff

at least for one round

[torn shore]

Right then, what about infested armor?

[rotund nova]

very good idea

[light smelt]

not enough of it but i know someone is making one set rn

i think

[torn shore]

Is there an image of it? Just so that it won't be accidentally duplicated

[rotund nova]

I sure hope so

[light smelt]

@celest nest ur making an infested armor set right

[celest nest]

Yes

[celest nest]

Unfortunately no legs, because DE doesn't allow legs yet

[real shoal]

How many infested sword skins does warframe have?

[rotund nova]

like a hand full

[celest nest]

At least 4, including DE's nikana sword

[real shoal]

ah i was thinking of designing a new sword skin and im trying to figure out a theme that hasnt been over done

i just had a look and there aren't many dagger skins so im going to have a try at that

[rotund nova]

You mean the 2h nikana skin(?) from Nightwave ?

[celest nest]

Yes, the meat paddle

[real shoal]

this was suppose to be the blade but it looks more like a hilt

[drifting crow]

It could be a hammer of you design the handle right

[spark condor]

That looks like it could also be a Syandana

[real shoal]

I've already changed the shape of it to look more like the nightwave 2h nikana skin.
I've posted it in the showcase channel

[fossil yew]

Could be the Hook of a blade-whip

[split ingot]

Unfortunately, this post isnt relevant to the channel, best to post on the forums instead.

[steep belfry]

Do we know if Master Noobs tennogen skin is gonna be part 1 or 2?

His protea one I mean

[vague arrow]

part 2

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1284562-tennogen-round-21-accepted-items-release-date/page/4/#comment-12433469

[drowsy idol]

Guys can You pls create a new Chroma Skin more similar to this?

[light smelt]

i mean....tennogen cant make models that differ from the model, they can only change the textures and stuff like that

that would be more like a second deluxe which would have to go to de

[real shoal]

Could possibly be an alt helmet tho

[light smelt]

thats possible

[drowsy idol]

What If you take the model of Chroma Prime

[oblique shore]

You can't, tennogen use the base model of the frame

[drowsy idol]

Ok ok

Thanks though

[blazing hull]

someone needs to fix the rhino palatine helmet

iron skin on it has been bugged for ages

[light smelt]

thats uh more of a warframe forums kind of suggestion

[blazing hull]

fair. helmet is tennogen so thought id bring it up

wait no, its not

....been a long day

my b

[celest nest]

Alright, shoulder redone. It's now... extra hairy

[rotund nova]

👀

[celest nest]

I think this is much better than v1, but my next armor set will be.... different.

[rotund nova]

still infested themed?

[celest nest]

Yeah probably

Tho my next project will definitely be non-infested Gauss. I'm tired of only working with flesh.

I want to turn him into a walking supercar that is beautiful like a woman. Only a car. And a man. WHo's a car. On legs.

Look, I have two braincells and one is already used for breathing, it's hard to be more eloquent, but I think you understand what I meant.

[rotund nova]

• heavy breathing *

gimme dat Gauss

but whatever you do with that idea, I think it will turn out great

[celest nest]

Eventually, I will. I want him to be reminiscent of McLaren P1 mixed with Ferrari Roma

[rotund nova]

oh the P1, what a beautiful racer!

[celest nest]

Well, first I need to finish this jabroni

And his armor set

[rotund nova]

one thing at a time

[celest nest]

And no more dilly dalying.

Now, to get back to renders and poses... Still have some time, can make a stand for him too.

[autumn stirrup]

@celest nest Transformers do be some great inspiration there

[forest lake]

NullRhea is right, there’s plenty of Transformers

[rotund nova]

I'm not 100% sure if robot that is also car is enough of a criteria to make it an adequate source of inspiration

But in the end it depends on the artist

[autumn stirrup]

To clarify, I don't mean the clunky G1 TFs, I mean the more modern interpretations where there's a sleek combination of car and robot features. The sporty cars get pretty sleek and attractive as the cars themselves these days.

[celest nest]

As long as it's not bayformers

[rotund nova]

The only versions of transformers I really know are the og clunks, beast wars and bayformers and none of those felt fitting. But if there's a more sleek version of 'em that is neither of these three that'd might actually be really nice

[autumn stirrup]

There were a few okay Bayformers designs but I agree with you.

[celest nest]

Hey, I'm picking default colorscheme for Rev, what looks better, blue accent tint on helmet, or pink accent tint like on body

[past comet]

I like the blue

[celest nest]

There's also yellow variant

I think yellow pops

[past comet]

oh I like the yellow best

[solid pulsar]

Round 21 items arriving today on all platforms 😍

[dark zephyr]

Hildryn's new suit makes me really want more suits for her...

Lately, Hilly and Ivara are my favorite frames... I definitely want to see Hilly get some more love. Her default outfit makes me think she stepped off of Venice Beach after lifting 1000lb worth of weights (It's a fun look), and I'd love to see something that maybe resembles tactical armor on her.

[burnt jay]

Jeebus 4 wisp skins seems a bit overkill

DE priorities I suppose lol

[drowsy idol]

@celest nest What Frame is This? Nidus?

[celest nest]

It's a separate shoulderpad, universal

But I'll release it alongside Revenant

[drowsy idol]

Seems Cool Man