gameplay-discussion

[elfin jungle]

anyway to do that without a zaw?

[willow bluff]

Since you interfered our convo by asking that question instead of what u need, I'm gonna this unnecessary answer to you and not gonna answer the other ones u need

[silver breach]

there are tons of ways of doing damage cap without zaws

[elfin jungle]

sorry

[willow bluff]

@chilly jungle
Also stop spreading misinfo if u can't test

[silver breach]

different frames, different builds, different weapons, different setups

[lofty garden]

But how many start with "Z" ?

[devout burrow]

any exaulted frame (needs tech explanation which I wont talk about in this server), abusing multi CO with external buffs
glaives with mirage eclipse and high strength
and in general just stacking very high multipliers that multiply with each other

[elfin jungle]

galvies + mirage = dmg cap?

[devout burrow]

mirage zaw is the most consistent non crit overflow dmg cap I can think of atm

[devout burrow]

eclipse double dips on glaive explosions

needs very high strength tho

[elfin jungle]

what does double dip mean

[silver breach]

Mirage's eclipse double dips on Glaive explosions. but youre gonna need more buffs overall

[devout burrow]

[eclipse]² * other multipliers

[elfin jungle]

double dip means squareroot?

[silver breach]

the bonuses happen twice in the damage calculation

[willow bluff]

I see you're new to gaming and nacho with dipping

[elfin jungle]

yea

[silver breach]

basically its all just spaghetti code doing its magic lmao

[devout burrow]

not squareroot, squared

[elfin jungle]

oh yeah mb

what are yalls favourite frames to play now

is uriel even sevagoth nuke typa good? or is js aura farmin

[silver breach]

Ivara, but i wont suggest you use her. Most people hate using her lmao

[untold burrow]

i <3 gus prim

[elfin jungle]

shes good for spys i think

[devout burrow]

sevagoth is probably the best nuke in the entire game

[elfin jungle]

gauss?

[willow bluff]

Uriel
Nyx
Gauss
Titania
Hildryn

Used to be Octavia, just stopped playing for no reason.

[untold burrow]

gauss :>

[elfin jungle]

ohh

i cant seem to do sunder nuking

[silver breach]

uh no, people have optimized spy missions so much, to the point of Ivara being irrelevant due to her not being fast enough

Wukong is the king of Spy missions

[elfin jungle]

ohh

[devout burrow]

I dont understand how people can play octavia for more than 1 mission, so boring to play

[untold burrow]

doesnt have to be a nuke! hes actualy more of a weapons platform.

[elfin jungle]

real

[elfin jungle]

ohh

[willow bluff]

Simple, when u wanna multitask

[red path]

octavia is your best frame to solo duviri circuit

[untold burrow]

high duration, helminth Energized Munitions, and if that duration is high enough your fire rate just goes to the moon when youre in Redline!

[elfin jungle]

cant harrow just do that?

[willow bluff]

Hard disagree

[silver breach]

spam heat sunder, to stack up procs, then make them all explode with a single cold sunder

[elfin jungle]

how many heats do i actually need

[silver breach]

idk, i just spam the button until everything dies LMAOOO

[willow bluff]

It's Silence Zephyr

[devout burrow]

2 different types of weapon platforms

[elfin jungle]

crit and SPA?

[untold burrow]

pffff why harrow when you can zoom AND boom

[devout burrow]

harrow is a crit platform while gauss is a fire rate/elemental infusion weapon platform

[elfin jungle]

icic

[silver breach]

I have Thermal Sunder on both Titania and Harrow, they feel nice

[untold burrow]

ew titania. anyways

[silver breach]

anyways

[untold burrow]

that reminds me i gotta flip the helminth of my atlas to do a funny thing..

[elfin jungle]

i cant sunder nuke with titania idk why

its deccent for non sp

[willow bluff]

Don't
Ur team will hate u

[silver breach]

ive learned no to spam it as often, to conserve energy

its less "nuke" and more like constant aoe damage

youre not killing with it efficiently anyways

[elfin jungle]

yea

kullervo is so fun

[untold burrow]

because the sheer essence of gauss interferes with titanias ability to perform nuking actions

[willow bluff]

Good
Coz there were times when Slamkong and Sundertania abused their spam so much I had to report them for griefing.

[silver breach]

how is that griefing?

[untold burrow]

relic missions. corrupt enemies cant generate if you kill too fast

therefore griefing the relic opens

[silver breach]

but youre not killing fast enough with sunder titania

[untold burrow]

aye Ast has the experience not me

i never see titanias, and im grateful for that

[hidden whale]

doesnt gyre also run exterminate missions with ease?

[silver breach]

I guess ill delete the build then, I didnt know I was a bad guy

[willow bluff]

Lemme search official DE post

I'll send an SS

[elfin jungle]

wth

[silver breach]

guess Dex Pixia build is the go to then lmao

[lofty garden]

You never see Titania because she's at the exit, waiting for you.

[elfin jungle]

i saw a garuda nuking once

[lofty garden]

The issue isn't nuking, it's nuking without waiting for the corrupted to spawn.

[willow bluff]

This

[fresh cairn]

in duviri, does doing the 'lone story' mode reward anything in particular?

[lofty garden]

No, just access to SP mode.

[fresh cairn]

like what's the point of it?

[untold burrow]

if you want i can send my minute-long redline build into #builds-discussion

[silver breach]

Ive not had such a problem since it doesnt kill fast enough

[willow bluff]

Faster Pathetic Champs farm

[lofty garden]

It disables all the side objectives if you just want to speed-run, but since they added Isleweaver, there's not much point to it.

[silver breach]

sunder takes like 10% of their HP

[willow bluff]

Did u ever take sundertania in low lvl exterminate relic?

[untold burrow]

thats probs cuz you're not redlining. if you redline the blast damage part will full-strip armor and then keep doing damage depending on how you layed up the sunders

[devout burrow]

I prefer dark verse titania tbh

[silver breach]

non SP? nah i never do non SP relics

[willow bluff]

Good then you're not a criminal

[devout burrow]

there is the problem

[copper adder]

which bounty would ya'll say is the fastest to grind for tokens?

[silver breach]

waste of time imo, doesnt give essence

[untold burrow]

kek

[devout burrow]

also exterminates really dont have a problem of rectant/fissure spawns

exterminates quite literally have the highest void storm spawn rates out of all missions

[willow bluff]

DE DEcided the best way to nerf aya farm

[lofty garden]

Mothere's higher tier bounties give a decent amount of tokens if you don't want reptition. The endless bounties are good if you like mindless reptition.

[devout burrow]

so you can just spam cast sunder and enemies will still be corrupted

[copper adder]

but which would you say gives the most in the shortest time? like 236?

[lofty garden]

Two high level bounties,.

[copper adder]

ok thanks

[willow bluff]

Spawn killing is so quick they die before corruption

The spawns are limited and no more enemies will come once objective is complete

[lofty garden]

Not SP, but the regular T5, last time I ran it.

Don't forget that mom tokens are now worth 250, not 100.

[silver breach]

do the 40-60 one imo

fastest, least hassle

[devout burrow]

in exterminates the fissures spawn the moment I have LoS on the enemies in my runs so

[copper adder]

https://tenor.com/view/ivy-deadlock-discord-background-look-stare-gif-18321219713660328997

i need to rejoin the place so the bounties load

[willow bluff]

And sunder ain't LoS

[lofty garden]

I personally like the 40-60 since if you do all the optional objectives, you exit with 130-150 tokens, something like that.

[willow bluff]

And sunder is lingering dmg field

[copper adder]

the timer hit 0 and it went up to -300 seconds...

[silver breach]

exit the place, and come back

[elfin jungle]

is hydron better for xp or SO

[lofty garden]

Hydron's easier to deal with if you want to passively level everything.

[red path]

that's normal, been like that for a few years iirc, just return to base of operations and then back to necralisk

[red path]

I prefer helene on saturn, getting orokin cells too

[copper adder]

this one right?

[lofty garden]

Yes. Doesn't say Endless.

[copper adder]

ok thanks

[silver breach]

yes thats the one

[red path]

endless is tier 3 one

[silver breach]

the aya farm is so good, I typically get 1 aya per run

[lavish pebble]

"Yes, there are bounties..."
Gaslight attempt of the century right there

[silver breach]

pretty nice

[lofty garden]

Fits her character

[wet snow]

question. do elements do the damage of one of their combination elements? for instance will gas damage trigger something like primary blight which procs off of toxin?

[red path]

she just sensed your interest value was negative

[silver breach]

No

[elfin jungle]

does SO only work for weapons? or is senda better for frames

[copper adder]

Elite SO is better for weapons regular SO is quite slow...

[elfin jungle]

wha tabt for levelling frames

[red path]

SO work for frames, only elite has restriction

[elfin jungle]

So best way to level frames?

[red path]

I would just go to helene for a few runs

[lofty garden]

Hydron or Helen.

[copper adder]

SO is the easiest. you could possible go with a high level survival with a squad and passively level there?

[red path]

not fast, but you get many good resources

[elfin jungle]

faster than SO for frames?

[lofty garden]

Faster than solo SO? Probably. Faster than group SO? If you're not the nuker AND you can't stay in affinity range, you gain no benefit.

[copper adder]

I personally do SP survival missions with a squad (if you have sp unlocked) harder but fast

[lofty garden]

Helen/Hydron are so small that as long as you stay near the cryopod, the only place people can go to get out of affinity range is the spawn room.

I usually go to Hydron when I have a new frame and new weapons to level, as everything will passively level off what everyone else is doing.

[fresh cairn]

how do i unlock isleweaver?

[elfin jungle]

why is my phantasma like that

[keen lintel]

Additive heat. Like Ember, Cyte, Lavos, etc

[elfin jungle]

whats causing this

[keen lintel]

Additive heat

[elfin jungle]

whgats that

im using kullervo

[silver breach]

Basically someone in your team is giving you that buff

[elfin jungle]

ohh

[lofty garden]

It's from one of the other frames in squad with you. Probably Uriel.

[silver breach]

Chances are it's a Uriel or a Cyte

[lofty garden]

Yeah, but no one plays Cyte anymore. Uriel's the new hotness.

[silver breach]

Uriel has these floating sigils, and Cyte has ammo packs

[elfin jungle]

ohh thanks

ddt eclipse get nerfed

[limber quartz]

the subsumed version, a while back

[untold burrow]

which do i do???

k thx

[coarse basin]

put some respect on my king's name, he's still insanely powerful

[lofty garden]

Yes, but no one plays him.

[coarse basin]

and I believe resupply is slightly different, runes and resupply give extra hit

[coarse basin]

also false, he's meta in arbitrations

[lofty garden]

I played Disruption arbitrations a couple days ago. No one knew how to do revives. I carried with Vazarin's artifact until they relalized they were in over their heads and then we exited. No Cyte-09.

"meta" isn't what you find in public play

[coarse basin]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Extra_Hit this thingy

[coarse basin]

sure but it still means he's regularly played

even if it's meta bullshit

[elfin jungle]

why cant i see whos using what

[lofty garden]

I have not seen a Cyte-09 in months. Well know soon enough in the 2025 roundup

Hover over.

[silver breach]

Funnily I played with a cyte earlier while I was farming Kuva weapons

[coarse basin]

good frame for that cuz he has wallhacks and is mag progen

[silver breach]

Lr 5 to boot

[coarse basin]

in other words, he hits 15 kills very quickly

with the best progenitor element

[lofty garden]

2024 stats. The only frame in the list that is less played is Excalibur Prime.

[elfin jungle]

help

[coarse basin]

brother he released in DECEMBER

[lofty garden]

And no one played him then, either!

We all ranked him up and put him on the shelf or fed him to helminth

[coarse basin]

also isnt that still more plays than everything below him

like sure theyre primes but still

[lofty garden]

everything below him has a Prime above him, other than excalibur

more people played Chroma, of all things. no one plays chroma!

saw an effigy once in 2025

[coarse basin]

anyways we'll see when this year's stats release, but the fact that he beat that many frames in the span of 18 days is still challenging to do

again, this is gameplay from 18 days vs an entire year

[lofty garden]

he bested vanilla frames that no one plays because they have primes

[coarse basin]

in 18 days... what prime would he have overtaken in 18 days

[lofty garden]

there is always a burst of activity around a new frame for a few weeks as everyone scrambles to farm MR/try the new thing.

then they all go back to volt, or gauss, or nova, or whatever they were comfortable with

[coarse basin]

not enough to overtake a full year of use tho

[silver breach]

Hey at least I see some Cyte players in the wild. Compare that to Ivara, where I'm literally the only Ivara player I've ever seen in a few years

[coarse basin]

especially when the burst hasn't ended by the end of the year.

[lofty garden]

You never see Ivara because people run Ivara solo as squad ruins the stealth experience

[south girder]

It’s just a bug that happens sometimes

[silver breach]

That is true

[south girder]

Full Squad Ivara :3

[empty granite]

Geh, i hate that arcane expertse doesnt show outside mission

[lofty garden]

https://www.warframe.com/en/stats

[silver breach]

I actually have a few Ivara builds where she's in a more "active" playstyle.

To accommodate squad play

[lofty garden]

I don’t, I just switch to solo and roll through lasers.

[coarse basin]

then let's go with trinity. I have seen five times as many cyte players as I have trinity, probably more.

[lofty garden]

or I go out on the vallis and cap standing by capturing five kubrodons

trinity plus trinity prime was 0.55%

[coarse basin]

and cyte was 0.19%. Now, let's be patient and see how much he's increased when he actually has a year to be played

[red path]

when we usually get yearly stats updated?

[lofty garden]

I’m sure Rebb’s jonesing to get back to the office and pour over the stats.

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-husky-soon-gif-7801078

[dusk crystal]

so how does this work ETA end of 2nd mission we got the rewards but it doesnt let us progress towards the assasination

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

Generate logs and submit ticket

[dusk crystal]

so how do i do that

when the host left i ended up back in höllvania so i guess ill have to do everything again ?

[keen lintel]

Check Forums how to do that.

[dusk crystal]

ok

[sour terrace]

whats the cost of installing an incarnon genesis?

[lofty garden]

20 pathos clamps and some mats

[sour terrace]

i know its pathos clamps, maw fangs but i dont remeber what the other 2 are

[fresh cairn]

is it worth redeeming 5000 kuva, secondary arcane adapter and the arcane secondary outburst from duviri?

[lofty garden]

the materials vary from adapter to adapter. The 20 pathos clamps are constant.

[pure gulch]

depends on the incarnon, like ice said only the clamps are the same with all of them

some could have maw fangs, some have stuff like aggristones, silphselas etc

[lofty garden]

They put a shield around the corpus reactor 🙁

The one that you can turn off by disabling the four terminals.

Can't get in there anymore. So sad.

[fresh cairn]

oh i think it's 10?..

[lofty garden]

Ok, you can think that. Won't make it true.

It is 20, and that's important because until they added Pathos Clamps for running the SP optional Undercroft portals, there was no way to get enough clamps in a single Duviri Experience run to install an adapter.

A single SP run now nets you 24 pathos clamps, if you complete all three optional Undercroft portals.

[true kayak]

Wiki says it’s 25 pathos clamps for primary and secondary adapters
Which is definitely not worth it compared to buying them from teshin

[fresh cairn]

you mean the adapters can only be used in duviri?

yes. it's 25 pathos clamps.

[lofty garden]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Pathos_Clamp

it is 20 for incarnon adapters

[fresh cairn]

ok. what about kuva and the arcane adapter..?

[true kayak]

Kuva is ten
If you have everything else you can get with pathos clamps, go for it, but otherwise don’t bother

[lofty garden]

arcane adapters have multiple purchase options

[fresh cairn]

understood.
pathos clamps can be carried forward to the next week right?

[true kayak]

Yes

[fresh cairn]

tq

[lofty garden]

I wouldn’t spend 25 pathos clamps when the primary and secondary arcane adapters are only 15 steel essence

[fresh cairn]

thanks.

are there fissure missions that people generally try to join? like survival..?

[late vessel]

Cascade, conjunction, alcheny

[lofty garden]

For one and done, capture and exterminate.

[late vessel]

Rescue as well if those 2 isn't available

[lofty garden]

Yeah, that's an under-duress option, especially the Kuva Fortress one. The lower level corpus and grineer ones aren't terrible.

[fresh cairn]

hm... odd. i keep going to exterminate but nobody joins and i end up alone.

[late vessel]

Did you set it to pub?

[fresh cairn]

yes

i only got a full team during survival

[lofty garden]

may be a region thing. I had full squads on lith and meso exterminate

[gray helm]

dang i js saw this mb, thats a lot, which should i go for? i need one for sp thats rly strong and can be good in any mission n does hella dmg

[lofty garden]

Felarx

[true kayak]

Kuva sobek

[gray helm]

kuva zarir any good?

js got it in kuva

[amber trench]

kuva Zarr is good but has ammo issues

if you play Cyte or run carrier or something to fix ammo

[slender willow]

some of you can help me with this the server is not working

[tulip magnet]

one of the better kuva launchers imo

[gray helm]

so is it worth maining for sp

[tulip magnet]

you'll run into ammo issues on missions with lower enemy density

so you'll need Cyte for reloads or a backup weapon for stragglers

[rustic lily]

Someone correct me if I’m wrong
But the arcane that boosts summed ally damage would be perfect for nekros’s shadows, right?

[tulip magnet]

which one does that again?

[rustic lily]

I don’t remember the name off the top of my head

[late vessel]

Summoner wrath

And yes

[rustic lily]

Yeah that one

[late vessel]

They can do great dmg buffed with like nourish and such

[rustic lily]

Hm…
Is it possible to build for desecrate andshadows?

I have an idea for nekros

[late vessel]

Yes

Maximum range and some duration

No range mods negatively affect duration

[rustic lily]

Is strength not needed for shadows?

[oblique crow]

warframe just declined my apology for ban of 10 years should i create a new account and start a new journey or what? cuz i had everything on my old one

or just move on

[late vessel]

You want strength in general that's a given in nekros build

[rustic lily]

Fair fair.
Never really used him before, so gathering what knowledge I can

[red path]

why you want strength 👀

well, I gues for shadows, but I don't really use them even when farming

[late vessel]

Armor strip from 2
And the sbsume you use most likely want str to some capacity

[red path]

oh, armor strip, forgot about that

[lofty garden]

it's not ten years, it's permanent. 2035 is just a computer date thing.

[red path]

I used quiver for invis and all I needed was range and duration

[late vessel]

Get evade

[red path]

and latron prime incarnon didn't care much about mobs armor even on sp

[slender sparrow]

that's ban evasion lol

[oblique crow]

am gonna ask for permission tho

i like this game its my fav

[red path]

evade get disabled by acolyte/stalker, quiver field - not

[slender sparrow]

sorry but xD

[late vessel]

Interesting new knowledge

[oblique crow]

i jsut told them what name i will name the account is it

i had everything in the old one its just makes me sad

[red path]

better just pretend it's completely new and unrelated account, and learn from this failure, de don't pardon cheating

[rustic lily]

So I guess you wanna put nourish on nekros’s 1, yea?

[late vessel]

1 or 4

[rustic lily]

Planning on using 4, so I guess 1 is going bye bye

[oblique crow]

i didnt cheat its that someone swore and i swore back and later i got banned when i was in survival mission trying my inaros build and i thought of moving on but nah

[red path]

1 is fun with augment when playing in squad

[oblique crow]

1

2 3 and 4 u just need them

1 is just a punch

[bronze otter]

what helminths does hydroid benefit from

[red path]

idk about what rules there is about speaking with people in game chat, since I never actually use it for taking with people

[lofty garden]

For the best. They're all just Soylent Green.

[late vessel]

1 can be used to selectively choose which shadow to make

So like soul punch a bunch of exinus

[oblique crow]

well i have it on 1st so its ur choice

[bronze otter]

like limbo 1

[late vessel]

I thought you're banned how do you have this knowledge about helminth

[bronze otter]

??

[oblique crow]

"i had everything" oh man.

i just got banned 5 days ago

thats why am sad

if it was years ago i wouldnt

[late vessel]

Oh i thought you were banned 10 years ago

[oblique crow]

literally just said i asked for permission to make a new account and gave them the name since its ban evading if i made a new one i think

[slender sparrow]

Read 😭
https://www.warframe.com/terms

[oblique crow]

i dont read

[slender sparrow]

It's over

[oblique crow]

for?

[late vessel]

Ever

[slender sparrow]

Also #rules §6

[oblique crow]

oh

fair am out

[slender sparrow]

Good luck on your journey 🫡

[bronze otter]

what helminths does hydroid benefit from

tidal impunity and viral tempest build

[lofty garden]

vazarin artifact heals the hijack target

[twin fossil]

Important question. How the hell do i obtain the new years kiss? Since ik the seasons have to end and all, but like do i have to be in that time exactly when it happens or just the day?

[heady copper]

you'll get it after whenever you happen to log on

[queen plume]

Are archimedia still bugged?

Just tore my butt to complete TA and only got the 5,10 and 15 point rewards. The whole bar is yellow, going past 25

The stripes reach to 15.
And yes, every parameter is met. Every single one

[red path]

I think there is an instruction on forums how you can restore your rewards through support

[queen plume]

Just for ref, this is what it looks like so it's clearer

[red path]

iirc, you send screenshot of rewards and your log after completing archimedia through support ticket, #support-and-bugs

[queen plume]

How? I'm on PS4

I mean the log, my bad

🤦‍♂️

[red path]

idk how console accounts work, maybe de can access your logs from their side

[proud topaz]

anyone knows how can i unlock the new strange quest?

[shy egret]

Wait how’d u get banned?

[past depot]

woiuldn't it tell you how to do that though?

[shy egret]

Incase the quest didn’t say

I believe u do missions on Uranus and scan the drone ghosts that are around there

[past depot]

that's for the NATAH quest

[pure gulch]

stolen dreams quest and europa junction are required for new strange apparently according to wiki

[misty lichen]

what is a good place/enemy to farm fever strike?

[oblique crow]

someone swore and i swore back but with more and then later after few mins in survival mission i got banned trying my inaros build

and they said no other chances

and the ban is perm

so i have to start all over again

[leaden spade]

all of those are robots except the bosses on top

[lofty garden]

Wow, Zealoid coming in clutch.

[late vessel]

Causally doing mission that those moa enemies is probably faster than prelate

[lofty garden]

Woudl be surprised if by the time you could buy a second Nokko BP, you didn't have at least a few Fever Strikes.

Regular Prelate wasn't too bad, but it's not very synergistic.

[misty lichen]

So, Orb Vallis would be ideal?

[leaden spade]

yeh probably, or Deep Mines

Deep Mines would be easier, less moving around and higher density

[limber quartz]

anyone noticed rest&rage not being able to affect spawned animals? seems to work fine on naturaly spawned ones, just not the ones we call with the tranq

[leaden spade]

ae you in game rn?

[misty lichen]

yup

[coarse comet]

I really need to continue the story but I keep running into situations where my operator feels really weak and I'm worried the same might happen for railjack if it makes me do those, is there anything I can do? Like for example with the left click on my operator its always depleted after I blast one thing, is it just me not understanding the fundamentals or what??

I'm about to start The Sacrifice

[hushed oriole]

I think I had the same experience with my operator the first time

[leaden spade]

sent you a DM

[hushed oriole]

your best bet is to make an amp

[pure gulch]

just any amp you make yourself is better than mote already

[hushed oriole]

either from the quills or vox, iirc the stronger ones have parts from both

[late vessel]

Step 1 : go to quill onkko in cetus
Step 2 : buy amp parts (at least the low tier one)
Step 3 : craft that amp
Congratulations your operator is 10x stronger than when using mote amp

[coarse comet]

I'll take a look ty

aghhh I have no standing

am I supposed to do this or...?

[late vessel]

Yes

[leaden spade]

yes

You give Onko shiney rock...

[late vessel]

More can be farmed doing eidolons or just killing any sentients

[leaden spade]

..."Sentient energy contained, you are closing on victory!"

[coarse comet]

and I should get one of these?

[leaden spade]

all of them

you need all 3 to make your first amp

but any of those 3 now is fine

[coarse comet]

ok I got all 3, do I gather the materials to craft all 3 now or is there a specific one I should get first?

I still don't fully understand this tbh idk if they are all individual amps or pieces to make one

I have hardly played cetus

[slender sparrow]

You can choose.
We can write a book here, full of misinfo.
Or you go to the wiki:
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Amp

[coarse comet]

I'll probably just craft the easiest one then lol ty

[lofty depot]

Whats the best primary and melee weapon

[tulip magnet]

tough to say really

[lofty garden]

felarx, orthos prime

[tulip magnet]

what is this, 2022?

[lofty garden]

shotgun vendetta wasn't introduced until 2023

[oblique laurel]

Is uriel more ranged or melee?

Or could I build him either way

[lofty garden]

He's just hot.

Uh oh, Tactical Potato wants Nightwave story back.

[dusk yoke]

I've been to Fortuna and the earth colony/open world area. Does the game ever explain or give a quest about mining and fishing, or are you expected to figure it out on your own?

[lofty garden]

that second thing

Wiki entries for mining and fishing have some details.

Mining on Orb Vallis is pretty good using the Sunpoint drill.

Depending on what gem you want, that's not the case for Orb Vallis.

Fishing on Plains of Eidolon requires several different spears for the best results. Orb Vallis and Cambion Drift, you just need one spear for each.

[fiery solar]

Was able to make my robotic hounds have 6 copies but now Idk what else to do with 6 doggies on the field lollll

[shy egret]

What??? That doesn’t sound right

What kind of swearing???

[coarse basin]

I still don’t understand what’s so important about different spears.

[lofty garden]

Different fish on then Plains of Eidolons require different spears to one-hit them.

[coarse basin]

oh. is that it

[shy egret]

Run it with dante using inaros’ sand ability and augment

You make 3 cats and then you got 6 dogs and 3 birbs

[coarse basin]

then what’s so important about shockprod or the cambion one

[shy egret]

Pretty much - and then the shockprod and infested are faster to use on certain fish

[fiery solar]

That pretty funny loll

[keen lintel]

Stunna only works on orb vallis fish. Same thing for cambion

[random solstice]

that protea grind ended me

[oblique crow]

not racist swearing or anything normal like F and others yk but they closed the case no chances

[random solstice]

now i need to grind equinox

[keen lintel]

Best bought from market. Her grind is garbage

Even more than Citrine

[random solstice]

i was a bit lucky getting the first two parts first try but i agree it’s a stupid grind

[glossy seal]

Best response to someone swearing at you in an online game is not to swear at them back. This is a skill issue

[lyric hawk]

so uhm, are we supposed to fail arbitration from using our Tau weapon?

[coarse basin]

wdym I can kill the vallis and cambion fish with lanzo just fine

[random solstice]

grinding these warframes stynax might be thr worst grind

[shy egret]

I find that running Titania makes em easier grinds

[oblique crow]

brother i didnt know swearing isnt allowed ever since the annoying guy in my clan warned me

he lies alot

[keen lintel]

Atleast now DE always adds a pity since Voruna so it’s fine

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/oscars-standing-ovation-clap-clapping-applause-gif-5089552

[coarse basin]

that wasn’t bragging, I’m just confused

[shy egret]

Idk If they’ve cracked down on swearing recently

But I’ve never had this problem

[amber trench]

Friendly fire xD

[oblique crow]

exactly. i am kinda sad i have no chacnes i had everything on it

[shy egret]

The game has a profanity filter tho

You’d have to say some truly vile shiz to get banned I feel

[keen lintel]

Ye. Still no pity made that grind abysmal. I just gave up and bought her. Could have made 6 times the plat I spent on her doing something else

[lyric hawk]

yeah apparently...

[shy egret]

Thats fair, I just saved the plat I would’ve spent and got some spicey signas hehehe

[glossy seal]

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Swearing isn't the problem, it's how it's used

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-damn-good-deal-good-deal-id-make-that-deal-gif-27676387

[golden hemlock]

I wanted Steel Path to have levels 1-2-3 with each level giving a different bonus, or the bonuses rotating, and a debuff that would change every week; it would be really good and the gameplay would become more challenging and fun

[lofty garden]

stunna allows you to stun other fish, making it easier to obtain a bunch of of fish.

[shy egret]

Fair

Calling someone a beep beep beep is different from saying man this mission is beep beep

[lofty garden]

The other spear goes through the "goo".

[lyric hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-car-drive-thug-life-beep-beep-gif-13265015

[glossy seal]

Eggzackly

[lofty garden]

So if you want to get the fish that are in the exocrine goo, you need the infested spear.

[shy egret]

Cause ik I use the word birches and such

Mainly in description of the Perita rebellion

Especially as gyre

….dressed as a Christmas tree

MERRY CHRISMUS BIRCHESSSSSS

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-gun-santa-claus-tom-kenny-paradise-pd-weapon-out-gif-16421126

[random solstice]

with octavia i can defeat tyl in 3 mins

[maiden jolt]

Huh that’s weird

I didn’t see any kind of rad proc at all

[lyric hawk]

so, after someone pointed out, someone on point turned on the lasers, maybe that's what killed him 😭

[maiden jolt]

Oh lol

[lyric hawk]

the timing tho, immaculate

[maiden jolt]

Yeah that’ll do it, those things hurt so much for no reason

[gray helm]

40p?

someone gave me offer 40p do i do it

he uped to 50

[daring parrot]

what's the price on warframe.market for the cheaper ones

[coarse comet]

why is it white lol I thought smeetas were supposed to be green

[red path]

there is a lot of randomness in this game

pet looks is one of them

[coarse comet]

aw nah they gave me a chopped smeeta </3

[pure gulch]

the colors are random and you can change them but they use their own colors and not the palettes you use for frames etc

[red path]

random base fur colors, also random head and tail form

[pure gulch]

unless you use imprints and then you can alter the genetics a little bit or something

[red path]

I have almost 100 random kavat imprints all from random incubation

too lazy to actally sell them

[obsidian saddle]

How much could this go for? I put 350p as the starting price and 700 for the buyout

[keen lintel]

20p or 30p at best. its neither an incarnon nor a meta weapon.

its got good stats. thats why 20p is fair. otherwise a generic riven for Conv would be 5p

[worthy comet]

No man THIS is chopped

[keen lintel]

lol. glad both my kavats came out with long ears. the one that didnt was food for vasca kavat

[mint dagger]

Can anyone verify that the Plague strikes for Zaw's can be sold from Hok's Daily Special? The wiki says you can get them that way but I've yet to see it.

For context, these are what I'm talking about

[obsidian saddle]

If it somehow got a tenet variant, would it go higher

(Provided it gets a pretty good passive like the other ones)

[random solstice]

to my LRs does it take a long time to become a LR1

[keen lintel]

doubt it. when a new weapon comes, its riven dispo is horrible. so players just wait for updates for it to be at a certain point to be usable. granted a 0.6 dispo riven can be better than Hammer Shot.

[obsidian saddle]

Ah ok

Thank you for the help

[neon lantern]

hmmm sometimes yep, but if you have warframes, companions, archwing stuff to lvl up, it can go up quick due to max lvls of those give you 6k MR points

while other wearpons give you 3k, and then theres the lich,tenet, coda, necramech lvling up

[mint dagger]

God I hated leveling necramechs

[neon lantern]

meh least you can lvl them up easily in open world

[mint dagger]

^

[gray helm]

how much heartcells does infested lich give

[neon lantern]

10-15 iirc

[gray helm]

r u talking to me?

[neon lantern]

yes

[gray helm]

so it gives 10-15 live heartcells?

[neon lantern]

mmhmm let me check my sources to be double sure

[coarse comet]

I'm wheezing WHAT is that

[neon lantern]

yep i was right

[coarse comet]

I can't stop laughing

[gray helm]

how long does one take, n if im correct 10 is one coda weapon right

[neon lantern]

correct on the last part, the first part, it can take a bit due to 25% of going into an area where the virus is in 1999 and the coda STILL might not show up, had some times the rng had to be 75% before the coda finally showed its ugly mug

the way I fought the codas to finally fight them is load my parazon with 3 anti virus programs to help see which one to use, sometimes had to do it twice, once I find it then I keep that anti virus program on it plus 2 mods that go from 10% to 15% virus cure to speed up the process so I only gotta stab the coda like 3 times

[lyric lotus]

Coda farming is faster then conventional lich or tanet farming.

[neon lantern]

agreed

the only pain in the butt is the final confrontation and dealing with the stage attacks until you fight the actual coda

[lyric lotus]

that thing is kinda scuffed.

but if in pub, it gets easier to deal with em.

[neon lantern]

mmhmm

[lyric lotus]

and i am hoping DE would rework lich and tanet farming after how they implemented coda. Guess that wont happen.

[neon lantern]

time will tell

[lyric lotus]

yah, i wish they do look at this farms honestly

[bronze otter]

which hydroid ability do i replace for nourish

[pearl parcel]

ive never seen em

[mint dagger]

Guess I'll have to wait for 3 years cause my mucking self didn't realize those were from Plague Star

[pearl parcel]

i have even specific stuff too

hate*

[neon lantern]

they also come sometimes from the halloween events

[pearl parcel]

naberus isnt it?

[neon lantern]

mmhmm

its how I got my pieces

[mint dagger]

here's hoping

Def gonna be the last things I nab for mastery lol

[neon lantern]

last things I need is the invasion weapons

[mint dagger]

I got those early in my journey

[neon lantern]

i didnt T_T

forever 798/800 mastered items

[wide vigil]

We have a corpus themed frame, two sentient themed ones, a infested themed one, and a void themed one but no grineer themed one?

[lofty garden]

Don't need one, got Kahl.

[mint dagger]

Been saying this forever lol

Do we have a frame tied to Steel Meridian btw?

[daring parrot]

we fr should have a grineer themed frame

would be awesome

[mint dagger]

kuva themed, at least

inb4 garuda gets lore that makes her the grineer frame

[daring parrot]

something something blood queen roathe

[neon lantern]

imagine a grineer cross warframe

[wide vigil]

Gara ig because she’s friends with the unum

[mint dagger]

Oh yeah that was a plot point

[wide vigil]

I feel like the wolf of Saturn six would make a really cool Warframe design

Maybe some old grineer general from way back in the day was turning into a Warframe

[mint dagger]

Watched all the cutscenes for that recent;y

Would love to see the questline modernized

Also missing one of the wolf sledge parts thanks for reminding me

[pure gulch]

you didn't get it when it was on alerts?

[wide vigil]

I just got all the parts from a wolf hunt

[mint dagger]

... it was on alerts

dang

[wide vigil]

Yeah, sometimes the event called a wolf hunt happens and it just gives you the part

[pure gulch]

yeah it was a special event last year

[mint dagger]

DANG

[pure gulch]

had all the parts

[mint dagger]

I'm missing like one lol

[daring parrot]

around easter every year I think?

[pure gulch]

honestly i wouldn't have gotten it either if it wasnt for that, had like 1 part prior from some random wolf

[mint dagger]

Wolf beacons come often enough through nightwave, so I'm not too worried bout that

[pure gulch]

extra head what i have, never bothered to get it from the beacons

[mint dagger]

lemme check if i need that, will trade ya some of my spare prime parts if I do? :3

nah I got that part, dang

[pure gulch]

unfortunate

[mint dagger]

Oh well~

[pure gulch]

it'll come when it comes

bazillion other things to get for MR anyways

[mint dagger]

Mostly melee primes for me rn

I'm literally just waiting on relics/nightwaves/baro to rotate

[pure gulch]

I'm gonna miss this whole resurgence cycle cus I've not been home to get the weaps from em which is kinda sad

[neon lantern]

im waiting for eleanor wares to rotate, found out my coda isnt maxed out

[mint dagger]

That's another thing I can work on I suppose

Rn am grinding out hte rest of SP cause that gives a tiny amount of mastery

[neon lantern]

just got that done a few days after christmas

[pearl parcel]

another fun thing is just meme builds

[mint dagger]

mhm lol

I plan to max out arcanes, get every mod, and make a build for every frame

After that, we'll see

Just checked, I need the motor and main bp, if anyone wants to trade that to me (for the wolf sledge)

[gray helm]

how to spawn coda lich

[neon lantern]

theres a youtube vid for that

[gray helm]

i have done 3 exterminate missions, i heard smth drops from the mobs, nth did

[pure gulch]

do a höllvania mission with techrot and no lich active
kill some techrot
they drop a cd thingy, marked as well
pick up that thing and take to a then marked console
do console
profit

[gray helm]

whats techrot?

also you cant have a kuva lich active?

[pure gulch]

no it occupies the same slot as a kuva lich or sister

if you have a kuva lich or sister you have to deal with them before you can get one

[crude zodiac]

does the old peace Uriel bundle give me true platinum

[lavish pebble]

If you're paying real money for plat, it'll be tradable.

[crude zodiac]

Alright, thank you.

[lavish pebble]

"Personal Platinum" (the untradable kind) is only given through giveaways.

[crude zodiac]

I see, thank you very much.

[north pumice]

For my citrine players. Which pet are you using?

[onyx umbra]

is octavia a strong warframe?

[pearl parcel]

a funny one would be ax-52+crux, it's a favorite of mine

[glossy seal]

Yes, but she is heavily criticized for being somewhat boring

[mint dagger]

also 50 from the start

[pure gulch]

yeah she's really good but playstyle is kinda lazy boring type

[gusty turtle]

She does nothing and wins

She can also do something and win even more

And this allows you to literally lead enemies into your firing range

[waxen basin]

what's a good amp i should get, I've been using the sirroco for years

[misty lichen]

What is a good melee weapon after skana?

[silver breach]

Note that all these weapons are SP viable, and there are WAAYY more I haven't mentioned yet. Just pick whatever would suite your preferences

[silver breach]

1/1/1 is a good starting point. Doesn't need much, and is a massive improvement from mote and sirocco

[gusty turtle]

To start, this is what people use to name amps in the community

Prism, Scaffold, Brace

Number, number, number

111 is Paplak, Pencha, Clapkra

Etc

Orange is from quills, blue is from little duck

[silver breach]

Iirc all you need is rank 2 (I think) with quill Onkko for 1/1/1

[gusty turtle]

Even the most basic 111 is better than mote and sirocco

Then you can start building something that you'd like

But generally as void status isn't very good for dmg

[waxen basin]

tysm

[gusty turtle]

Most people use xx7, Certus

Since it's fully focused on crit

[tulip magnet]

and my #1 scaffold recommendation would be Phahd (x4x)

[waxen basin]

x4x?

[silver breach]

They're saying that phahd (number 4 scaffold) is their favorite

Prism/scaffold/brace

[waxen basin]

what do the x's stand for though

[silver breach]

For the other parts

[waxen basin]

ohhhh

[tulip magnet]

anything else

[gusty turtle]

Empty space

[waxen basin]

nvm

[silver breach]

Im still running my first built amp which is a 1/2/3 lmaooo. I can't be bothered to farm little duck for now

[waxen basin]

fair

[silver breach]

Been pretty good to me, I've been able to hunt eidolons and reach high level SP with it

[waxen basin]

hell yeah

[chilly jungle]

yeah tauronstrikes basically made madurai kinda irrelevant when doing eidolon hunts

you only need madurai if you need to speedrun 😭

[onyx umbra]

Thanks for the info

[timber seal]

I really need DE to make it so I can throw Alchemy amphors through Uriel's demons. They get in the way far too often...

[onyx umbra]

i just saw someone using octavia playing custom music i think earlier which i thought was pretty neat

[tulip magnet]

that was my first too

[silver breach]

I mean I've hunter eidolons with my 1/2/3 way before the old peace update

[tulip magnet]

took me a while to get the 547 I'm using now

[chilly jungle]

bro ive been using the 1/1/1 for like 1-3 years 😭

i finally got a new amp and nothing really changed

[tulip magnet]

I used the mote amp for ages

or rather didn't use

as I didn't like how it made my kiddo slouch

[onyx umbra]

mote amp works fine ngl

[chilly jungle]

nah

[tulip magnet]

so I just used the unarmed beam since the mote amp is barely an improvement

[chilly jungle]

even the worse custom amp is 100x better then the mote 😭

[onyx umbra]

since i only use my operator for like 5 seconds every blue moon

so i havent bothered investing

[silver breach]

Idk about that ngl.

In a 1-10 scale:

Mote is 1
Sirocco is 2
1/1/1 is a 6

[chilly jungle]

i feel like most people use bad amps because they made little duck grind locked behind bounties but there still another way to get standing slowly 💔

[onyx wren]

no.

Mote amp is absolutely awful

[tulip magnet]

...which made for a very interesting Sacrifice experience

[chilly jungle]

if they didn't force you to get tier 5 with eudico everyone would have good amps 😭 ✌️

[onyx wren]

Even throwing together a 111 at any point is exponentially better than Mote

[gusty turtle]

Even the most basic amp does literally 30 times the dps

[onyx wren]

?

You don't need Fortuna standing 5 to talk to Lil Duck

[onyx umbra]

probs but ion know

[silver breach]

I'll probably farm a 1/7/7 or 1/4/7 in the future.

I've grown accustomed to Raplak main fire

[silver breach]

Now you know

[gusty turtle]

What

[chilly jungle]

to do any bounties

[onyx umbra]

no im on 2 and can talk to duck

[tulip magnet]

I'd advise against Propa for anything other than eidolons

[gusty turtle]

You don't need that

[onyx wren]

I can confirm from experience that Mote is absolute garbage compared to even the most basic amps

[gusty turtle]

Little duck eats toroids and doesn't need solaris united

[onyx wren]

What are you talking about

[chilly jungle]

yeah but most people dont know that

[onyx umbra]

i thought quill was the guy for amps

[gusty turtle]

Both duck and quills are

[onyx wren]

Quill has the first 4 tiers but Duck has the later 3

[pallid canyon]

theres multiple amp people

[onyx umbra]

o

[silver breach]

Quill Onkko and Little duck

[gusty turtle]

You can just talk to her

[onyx umbra]

so skip quill and just to duck lowk?

[pallid canyon]

no

[gusty turtle]

You would want both eventually

[pallid canyon]

Quill has some parts you may want

[silver breach]

No, little duck is much harder to farm

[onyx wren]

I wouldn't say much harder

[pallid canyon]

the only absolute must from little duck is the —7 part

[tulip magnet]

wait you can level vox before maxing out united now?

[onyx wren]

My strat is just to do Narmer bounties and give her the isoplasts

[onyx wren]

Yea, I started Vox at rank 3 Solaris

[silver breach]

Don't you need toroids to rank her up?

[chilly jungle]

yeah but they barely explained anything

[onyx umbra]

i mean i should probs unlock steel path first before i even think about amps ngl

[pallid canyon]

narmer stuff makes her one of the easist rank ups in the game

[silver breach]

No I mean like rank her up

Level 1 to 2, 2 to 3

[pallid canyon]

yeah but toroids are easy to get

[onyx wren]

Ah those, yeah

[chilly jungle]

nah get a loot frame + drop booster + loot companion and you can get like 100 toroids in 10-30 minutes

[onyx wren]

But it's only 1 of whatever type you need so it's not hard

[silver breach]

Hmmmm might need to revisit fortuna then lmao

[pallid canyon]

you can get narmer stuff passively while doing regular fortuna stuff

[onyx umbra]

my favorite gun ive found so far is ocucor its so strong now that ive got a build for it

[silver breach]

It's not the final form just yet

[onyx umbra]

was worth the fishing grind 💀

[silver breach]

It can get stronger

[severe wing]

helloo everyone, i have a questionn (first day player here)

[onyx umbra]

oooh

[chilly jungle]

nah i hate all bounties ✌️

[silver breach]

You're missing 2 primed mods, an arcane slots, and you may be able to replace hornet strike depending on what arcane you use

[pallid canyon]

i liked the 1999 bounties (because they werent a slog to do)

[onyx umbra]

ive got arcane enervate for it when i unlock arcanes for secondary

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-true-true-face-morgan-freeman-sponge-gif-2079152472903869039

[silver breach]

I also personally like heat on that thing, tho it can be personal preference

[chilly jungle]

also 1999 MIGHT have higher chance of dropping endo

[silver breach]

So test it out if you want

[chilly jungle]

or i was jus treally lucky

[severe wing]

do you guys think the frames specific bundles are worth it? if ive decided i wanted to buy the frame to start with anyway

[onyx umbra]

fair ig im using uriel with it so that could work ngl

[chilly jungle]

nah

unless you want fashion

[pallid canyon]

which frame do you plan on buying

[severe wing]

i have a fewwwww im torn abouttt haha

[daring parrot]

rarely ngl

[pure gulch]

ngl the citrine pack is a prime example of worth imo at least

[silver breach]

Don't those bundles also give plat? Can be worth it depending on the person

[severe wing]

but kinda either nokko or Orixia rn

[pallid canyon]

i dont recommend buying most frames as very few are actually hard to farm

[daring parrot]

just make sure it's not easily obtainable first. you can check by hovering over the blueprint option on their store page

[onyx umbra]

as a player of 3weeks i would highly reccomend uriel tbh its made my journey so much smoother being able to fly

[daring parrot]

but also this. overall I don't recommend buying regular frames

[pallid canyon]

citrine though?

[silver breach]

I mean oraxia can do something similar

[pallid canyon]

yeah buy her

[chilly jungle]

most frames are either easy to get or have a long easy repetitive grind

[pallid canyon]

thankfully de didnt make Uriel a time eater

[severe wing]

i understand its a bad idea buying frames with plat buuut with my brain. i know if i dont start with a frame i like i will quit before i get them

[onyx umbra]

uriels kit is more beginner friendly i feel tho since ora requires a bit more thought for her kit to shine no?

[pallid canyon]

??? The starter frames are super fun

I recommend Mag

[silver breach]

Yeah I guess that is true

[severe wing]

i knooooow but i go with looks and animations haha

im sure i will get to them at some point again but starting off i like sth new and shinny to get me hooked haha

[daring parrot]

name your top 5 frames that interest you

[gusty turtle]

I don't think Uriel is very beginner friendly, because he will make you build bad habits of not learning how to move with any other frame properly

[silver breach]

So if you HAVE to buy a pack, I personally like oraxia

[severe wing]

ok nokko, cyte 09, orixia, temple, dante

[gusty turtle]

Same issue with Titania/Gauss/Volt

[pallid canyon]

do NOT buy cyte

he is a super easy grind in 1999

[silver breach]

Oh Dante...... Man that frame will destroy your understanding of survivability

[devout burrow]

buy whoever you want fr fr

[gusty turtle]

Especially if it's for me

[onyx umbra]

ngl thats fair im not amazing at parkour because i just fly everywhere

[tulip magnet]

not really, but depends on what your time is worth

[gusty turtle]

I feel like beginner frame shouldn't be gimmicky or overriding the common tools

[silver breach]

Yeah just go with who you like

[severe wing]

btw im talking about the like extra bundle with the frame.

so you know how most frames are like 370

but there would a bundle for like 885

[pure gulch]

all them in the list there are pretty easy to get BUT you do have to get in like a fair bit into the story for them the normal way

[silver breach]

What's in those bundlesM

[severe wing]

im talking about if its worth it going for the 885 at all

[chilly jungle]

all of those easy to get

[severe wing]

easy to get but i need to have the story finished, i wanna take it slow and enjoy the story thoo

[gusty turtle]

Usually alternative helmet and some extra cosmetics

[pure gulch]

all post new war basically

[gusty turtle]

And the signature weapon

[tulip magnet]

yup

imagine if a starter frame replaced one of your weapons for instance

[onyx umbra]

vinquibus was a very fun weapon to start the game with ngl

[tulip magnet]

that'd be crazy

[gusty turtle]

I feel like exalted weapons are a different question

[pallid canyon]

Vinquibis = hitscan
unhappy

[gusty turtle]

You don't have much of energy economy in early game

[onyx umbra]

waaahhh

[pallid canyon]

i need my multi co

[severe wing]

thats why im considering nokko haha heard he doesnt care about energy initially

[gusty turtle]

He would completely shatter your normal gameplay standards

[onyx umbra]

yeah nokko shits energy

[gusty turtle]

Like Nokko is so stupidly unhealthy

[pallid canyon]

i just dont like how nokko looks

[onyx umbra]

mushroom elf

[pallid canyon]

so i haven’t built him yet outside of subsume

[severe wing]

i looove how he looks hahaha he looks so stupidddd

[gusty turtle]

He can also dance

[onyx umbra]

caked up sprodling

[gusty turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/nokko-warframe-dance-gif-12174445999609316021

[pallid canyon]

every warframe can dance

[severe wing]

hahah ok so out of the 5

[gusty turtle]

Yeah but only Nokko, Yareli and Octavia got it in their idles

[severe wing]

as a fresh empty new acc, which one would be more fun to run

[gusty turtle]

Id recommend just not doing that and having normal progression

[pallid canyon]

dante imo isnt super fun, hes just a lot of numb spamming

[gusty turtle]

And buying one once you got familiar enough with the game

Dante is such an overkill for an early player I feel like it would unironically make someone quit if they got him early

[onyx umbra]

Nokko because his archgun is pretty neat too

[pallid canyon]

Cyte is super fun but hes a really easy farm so i’d avoid buying him

[gusty turtle]

You can't use his archgun the way it's meant to until late into the game

[onyx umbra]

and cute mushroom vibes

[pallid canyon]

theres a guy here who refuses to play any other frame because he started with dante and “its better than every other frame why would i change”

he also says he got bored of the game

🤔

[gusty turtle]

That's exactly my point

[pallid canyon]

who would have thought playing the spam cast character would get boring

[gusty turtle]

More like

Playing the game starting with an absolute overkill of a frame

That's designed for endgame content

In base star chart

[silver breach]

Fun is subjective tho, it's all on you

We can give recommendations for like ease of use or gameplay maybe. But fun however is gonna be ultimately your choice

[keen fog]

why getting 2.1 billion or -2.1 billion damage doesn't really add in the damage percentage, also does status damage not get count in the damage percentage?

[gusty turtle]

Like he can cast light verse once and itll probably last you for a whole non steel path planet

[silver breach]

Status damage is DoT, it's the damage that comes after the main hit. (Tho I'm pretty sure DoTs can damage cap too)

[severe wing]

yea absolutely

thats what i kinda mean, which frame would still function around their kit earlier without needing all the mods and weapons and stuff

[onyx umbra]

nokko

[lofty garden]

Mag does ok

[gusty turtle]

There's a lot, it's more a matter of not immediately getting a tool that can do everything

[silver breach]

Dante

[gusty turtle]

Because then you'll just lobotomize yourself long term

[pallid canyon]

mag literally does everything you’d ever need without mods

[gusty turtle]

Mag

She's a starter, you'll be fine with a starter

[severe wing]

yea that i see

[gusty turtle]

If you want something that gives you a head start but still requires brain to function later then just pick mag until you familiarize yourself with the game enough

[lofty garden]

A lot of it is optimizing speed through various missions and tilesets.

[onyx umbra]

but surely getting a strong frame that will enable you to grind stuff more efficiently so that you can experiment and try more new stuff makes sense?

[pallid canyon]

the starter frames do a great job of telling you what you do/dont like

[silver breach]

I mean all frames can do that's even the starter ones

[onyx umbra]

ig

[random solstice]

why does equinox’s day and night aspect take 72hrs each to build and then the frame is another 72hrs???? on top of each part being 12hrs?

[silver breach]

Mag, volt and Excal are really strong. The title of "starter frame" doesnt do anything in this equation

[random solstice]

that is actually disgusting from DE

[lofty garden]

It is fine.

[silver breach]

There's a reason why Volt is like one of the most used frames even if you're not a beginner.

[onyx umbra]

tbf i do like volt for zoomies

[pallid canyon]

especially Volt
volt alone will let you figure out if you prefer casting/platforming, and then what type of casting/platforming you prefer

[severe wing]

ive been playing volt everytime i tried to come back to the game

[onyx wren]

[pallid canyon]

he is the best frame to get if you just want to learn

[gusty turtle]

And his caster playstyle falls off, which is perfect to teach you what works and what doesn't long term

[pallid canyon]

hes also incredibly fashionable

[onyx wren]

What even

[onyx umbra]

im grinding to build grendle rn he seems sick

[pallid canyon]

unless you play as a summoner

[pallid canyon]

grendel is awesome
he just gets overlooked because of how insanely good hos subsume is

[gusty turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/pocket-sand-dale-king-of-the-hill-gif-15251105

[silver breach]

Caster volt early game, then he can transition into late game with weapon platforming.

And he's even a great support/pet platform with his summoning build

[onyx umbra]

thats a shame

[pallid canyon]

correction, hes the BEST pet platform

[gusty turtle]

You don't know the dark secrets huh

[silver breach]

Preach

[pallid canyon]

maybe i dont?

[gusty turtle]

Maybe you do

[pallid canyon]

Does Sand Kavat Volt not mog?

[gusty turtle]

It does

[pallid canyon]

He has one competitor and its Caliban with augment

[gusty turtle]

There are just more frames that can do it very well

As well as Volt I'd say

[pallid canyon]

I’d still say Volt sand kavat mogs

because it scales infinitely

[gusty turtle]

Yes! He is just not the only one

[onyx umbra]

shade seems like a very op sentinel because going invisible is so good for evading enemies for spy missions and stuff

[gusty turtle]

Never ask a xaku player why nourish isn't put over 1

[gusty turtle]

Yeah but shooting breaks it

[onyx umbra]

but the mod i have on it makes my crit goes haywire then back to being invisible rinse and repeat

feel like a super spy

[gusty turtle]

You might really enjoy Voruna

This is a part of her core kit

[onyx umbra]

ooh ill check her out

[pallid canyon]

i legit have not done a spy mission in 3 years

[pallid canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-sleepless-no-way-what-huh-gif-16247468

[gusty turtle]

Her invisibility gives you a lot of extra crit and status once it runs out

[onyx umbra]

they are really refreshing and infuriating

[silver breach]

Strong? Sure, OP? That's stretching it ngl.

Shade is just there chilling, making you Invis. Hes not doing much else besides that. So saying he's OP is kind reaching imo

[gusty turtle]

But kills extend it

Then you hop back into the shadows

[pallid canyon]

my main? mentioned? and its not to shit on her mid ass deluxe?

[gusty turtle]

There's a different reason

[pallid canyon]

🤑

[silver breach]

@gusty turtle sorry wrong reply

[gusty turtle]

Oh

[silver breach]

I meant to reply to @onyx umbra

[pallid canyon]

shade exists for no reason other than slash dash/nukegoth

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[gusty turtle]

No

[onyx umbra]

current shade build im using

laser cannon of doom

[gray helm]

whats worth gettting in the roathe event other than arcanes and kuva

[silver breach]

Arcanes, pretty much it

I mean you can grab everything

Everything else in the shop are cosmetics

[pallid canyon]

“whats worth getting from the event other than everything in the event”

[gray helm]

idrgaf abt those, ig ill js get what i can

[silver breach]

LMAOOOOOO

[gray helm]

the lens worth it?

[pallid canyon]

if you still need tenno focus sure

[silver breach]

If you need them

[gusty turtle]

You need them to charge extra tauron

So I guess yes

[pallid canyon]

I dont use tauron anyways

[gray helm]

what do they even do /:

[pallid canyon]

they convert focus into tenno school focus

[silver breach]

Allow the gear you equip them on to gain you focus points for their respective focus school

[pallid canyon]

if you have all your paths maxxed you dont need them

[silver breach]

Then he needs them, since he's a new player

[gray helm]

hmm okay tysm guys

also fnished ur volt builds, theyre goated

[silver breach]

Thanks

[tranquil kayak]

The Syam sticks out of its own saya

oh my god

It shouldn't bother me the way it does, but it does

There's a sliver of its glowing edge clipping through the sheathe when it's in there. I thought that was part of the saya's design but it's not

[lofty garden]

Move it?

[strong vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/rsjungle-king-julien-i-like-to-move-it-move-it-madagascar-gif-27520851

[lofty garden]

You can tweak the holster

[queen plume]

Guys rq I got the day 200 milestone. Which prime is worth getting? Primed fury, vigor, or shred

[lofty garden]

shred

[queen plume]

I'm not so sure about vigor, since I don't have any builds that focus on both health and shield

[queen plume]

U sure?

[lofty garden]

unless your melee weapons are too slow, yes

primed shred counters critical delay

[queen plume]

I would honestly weigh both equally

[queen plume]

What's that?

Crit delay

[lofty garden]

+200 crit, -20 fire rate

[pure gulch]

shred, fury has a better option and vigor overall is pretty bad

[queen plume]

Ohh that

Alright thanks

[pure gulch]

berserker fury when/if you eventually get that is more attack speed than primed ever gets granted it does have the on kill condition but its very easy to upkeep

[queen plume]

I do have that

[zealous orbit]

When will the wandering trader come back?

[lofty garden]

Murder early, murder often.

[orchid mist]

I just use primed anyway because I don't like how slow the initial weapon is when using berserker

15% isn't that high of a difference in practice anyway

[queen plume]

I just noticed that many weapons of mine, not just melee, have a weak upfront damage. Yeah, they tear through enemies once primed, but I stand there firing at them like it's a staring contest.

Like the "on kill" or "on weakpoint kill" mode and Arcanes have really good effects for my current arsenal strength, no doubt. Just that to actually trigger it, I spend that much time with nothing but firing at one person.

And surprisingly Limbo is good with just that. Stasis+Rift Torrent means I can prime my weapons safely and relatively fast.

[pure gulch]

sounds about life with incarnon things at least

granted a bunch of them if not all are more than capable of killing without incarnon mode active anyways if modded properly

[keen lintel]

Problem is that the timer doesn’t refresh with berserker. Only when the timer expires and u get 2 kills then only u get back upto 70% speed. That’s where P Fury gives u a consistent speed. Problem is that in high density missions, Berserker overshadows P Fury due to higher KPM

[lofty garden]

Finally, subsumes all caught up.

[carmine scarab]

Weird I didn't get any kim chats today

[tranquil kayak]

Yep, Marie talked to me about the argument.

I pissed her off more lmfao

I considered midway through the conversation just abandoning it and trying again when it rotates back in later (conversations shuffle when you log out and back in even if you were partway through them) but I realised how much I don't care

Poor girl's practically brainwashed.

I kinda hope the 'And we are done' doesn't mean I'm gonna get Anathema'd though

Ah, god, I checked Kimulacrum and spoiled myself lmao

Well at least I know I can ||patch things up without 'siding' with her again||

[swift terrace]

since when is kuva limited from teshin? whats the best kuva farm now?

[lofty spire]

S tier arbis/meta arbis

[tranquil kayak]

Ever since The Great Kuva Farm. Search that video on YouTube

Can't link it because links aren't allowed here

[swift terrace]

I know what that is, still doesnt really make sense imo

[tranquil kayak]

Basically a dude farmed a Kuva Survival Void Fissure for like several straight days, got a massive amount of Kuva, then got flagged and banned

And then used the massive amount of Steel Essence he got from it to buy even more Kuva from Teshin

[swift terrace]

and buy kuva with vitus essence?

[lofty spire]

👍

[silver breach]

yes

[daring minnow]

Somebody wanna trade i have a arcane Tempo Rank 0

[swift terrace]

ig steel essence is still better while its in stock, right?

[tranquil kayak]

DE for whatever reason don't want players to amass tons of Kuva, for reasons I can't really guess

Maybe they want to 'prevent' gambling addictions or something

But if that's the case they should remove gambling from rivens in the first place

[swift terrace]

well you cant buy steel essence with money so that doesnt make sense

[silver breach]

I think its less "they dont want people to amass a lot of kuva" and more like "they dont want people forming unhealthy habits like spending literal days in a mission"

[tranquil kayak]

You don't have to spend money to gamble, much less to be addicted to gambling

[swift terrace]

limiting kuva from sp to 250k/week doesnt fix that, there are other ways regardless

[silver breach]

theres a limit, thats the change

[tranquil kayak]

Yeah well they're hell-bent on keeping Kuva limited

[swift terrace]

but there is no limit from arbitration is there

[tranquil kayak]

From purchase limits to insultingly low drops

[tranquil kayak]

The only limit Arbitrations have is that you can only play each mission once

Once you do and extract, you have to wait for the next one to rotate in

[swift terrace]

resourceful retriever can affect vitus and steel essence right?

[tranquil kayak]

It rotates every hour

Yes it can.

[queen plume]

Guys I think about doing full strength (and maybe range) focus with a lil bit of extra energy for limbo. But now now, since it's like 4 am.
My idea was to squeeze the absolute hell out of Rift torrent to see what I could do, If I min max.

Just wanted to put that out there I dunno

[gusty turtle]

Make sure to grab a glaive

[silver breach]

glad to see people playing Limbo

[unkempt oak]

Hey, are there any decent wolf sledge builds? i dont want to jsut throw it like a glaive, id liek to melee with it and throw it like a glaive during tennokai triggers

[keen fog]

yes it can, but my question why the game ignores those damage in team? like imagine i'm doing 2million per hit and have like 30% damage in a team, i start doing the harmony status 1 to 2 billion damage but my damage % in team doesn't go up.

on the other hand if i do direct hit damage using magistar or tenet exec, doing 5-10million damage per hit would put me on 80%+ team damage