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quasi bluff
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hey does anyone can help me , im doing photoshop but im stuck 😒 ( im french )

strong gate
quasi bluff
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ok thx

normal vine
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Alr I'll leave this terrible server

strong gate
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pff ... some people πŸ˜„

uncut canopy
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Good night @strong gate and everyone from πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ

strong gate
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G'night Kajrov πŸ™‚

runic pecan
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can anyone help me change the color on this design?

blissful cargo
runic pecan
blissful cargo
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but you asked if someone could change the color on your design, assuming your design has already been designed

fair tree
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Hmm.

uneven scroll
fair tree
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If anyone wants to help me create my commission sheet, shoot me a ping.

uneven scroll
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Can someone tell me why this is happening

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I did layer by cut

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But its deleted a border off the selection

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First time using photoshop

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Need help plz.

blissful cargo
uneven scroll
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Whats vc

blissful cargo
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voice call

uneven scroll
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Sorry cant at the moment

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Any idea why im getting that issue?

blissful cargo
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oh

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you might have inverted your selection

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this can happen by accident, don't worry

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try pressing ctrl+shift+i

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and then create the layer

uneven scroll
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Let me try

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Nope thats not it. Anytime i selection a section to cut into a new layer it deletes a border off my selection

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I dont get why its doing that

blissful cargo
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it might also be automatically selected

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the invert option

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i can't really infer what's going on without further context

uneven scroll
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Thanks anyway

blissful cargo
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Hopefully that helps

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I'm quite certain the issue you're having is a simple misunderstanding with selection inversion

uneven scroll
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Its not the invert thing. All im tryong to do is cut an image off the background. I used the object selection tool and then press layer by cut. However everytome i do that it deletes the border of the image i copied.

blissful cargo
subtle summit
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hi'

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does anyone know a fix to lighting effects not working

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i can adjust iy

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i dont get this circle

blissful cargo
# subtle summit

the option in the right panel is the type of light you want to simulate

subtle summit
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wdym

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i wanna djust this light if thats what ur asking

blissful cargo
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yes

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the inner circle controls the range of the light

subtle summit
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but i dont have that inner circle

blissful cargo
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oh

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you probably have extras hidden

subtle summit
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oh how do i enable that!

blissful cargo
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go to the view menu

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is extras enabled

subtle summit
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yeah

blissful cargo
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what about under the show menu

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is anything unchecked there

subtle summit
blissful cargo
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see the show option

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what's checked in there

subtle summit
blissful cargo
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ok so

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try going to photoshop preferences

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do you see a native canvas option in technology previews

subtle summit
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ok

blissful cargo
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try checking on de-activate native canvas

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and restart photoshop

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if that doesn't fix it, re-enable it for good measure

subtle summit
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k

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oh its fixed tysm

blissful cargo
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cool

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it might have been a limitation with your gpu/cpu that caused the issue

subtle summit
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end result

blissful cargo
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ooh, nice

opal helm
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Heyy

maiden crater
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yo

mint zodiac
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I got a question could someone help me make a promo banner I didn't know what else to look so I'm seeking some help

earnest storm
blazing zodiac
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@blissful cargo
Oh yeah so I’ve already updated and uninstall software’s pretty much fix the ram so far since it seems to be working for now.

blazing zodiac
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Yeah I still have to uninstall software is still having ram issues ATM.

blissful cargo
uncut canopy
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good evening @strong gate sorry I not help you today.

strong gate
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it's all fine .. we're volunteers, right.
hope you had a great day. I spend most of mine in a ball pit with our little one πŸ˜„

uncut canopy
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hope little one enjoy

strong gate
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yeh, was great πŸ™‚

uncut canopy
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to morrow start new round of challengers with a kick of

strong gate
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I saw the site updated, curious what we got πŸ™‚

uncut canopy
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wonder if it not be Kathleen, she was first after last MAX if I'm not wrong

strong gate
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last I saw mentioned was Paul Trani.

uncut canopy
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and I think Val or Hoch for AI

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Had not read new yet, or been on BΓͺhance Live

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And Paul it will 2 weeks of fun, and speed

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Time to bed, good night @strong gate

strong gate
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same here, g'night πŸ™‚

cerulean sedge
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how did he manage to fit the broken glass layer automatically to the corners of the window?

uneven scroll
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Hello. I noticed my brush strokes are delayed when i use it. I dont get why as i have 32gb ram and i only have youtube playing in the background. Cpu usage is at 1% memory at 20%

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Any idea why ?

blissful cargo
uneven scroll
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4% flow and 100% smoothing....as i just noticed it πŸ˜‚

blissful cargo
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ah

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4% flow could be your problem

uneven scroll
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Was following a youtube video and they didnt mention smoothing so i didnt kmow about it

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I tried it at 50% flow and the brush is still delayed like theres a glitch

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Its like 0.5 seconds late

blissful cargo
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what about your smoothing

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i have smoothing off

uneven scroll
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Oooo damn

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I just turned it off

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Thanks man it solved it πŸ˜‚

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I thought my pc was breaking down on me. Thanks man life saver

blissful cargo
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πŸ™‚

still spruce
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dm me for premiere pro or photoshopo

thorn solar
uncut canopy
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Good morning everyone

vernal fieldBOT
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Gave +1 Creative Carma to @thorn solar

grizzled jungle
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Is this server dead?

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Hmmmm

strong gate
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no idea what you're talking about ... πŸ’€

grizzled jungle
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πŸ‘

strong gate
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all jokes aside, what makes you think that?

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people been chatting all morning

grizzled jungle
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I was expecting spam of messages in this server

strong gate
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nah .. most people here are professionals and have work to do πŸ˜‰

grizzled jungle
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UwU

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Anyways, I need some help

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Think you can help me out?

strong gate
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πŸ˜‰

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but yeh, there's people around that can help

wide obsidian
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Hey can someone help me? I want to photoshop something but not sure how to do it

blissful cargo
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what do you need help with exactly

wide obsidian
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Im getting help. But thank you πŸ™‚

blissful cargo
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ah

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okay

lapis crane
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.

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Anyone know who Benny Productions is

analog hornet
lapis crane
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He has a server now

analog hornet
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Is it more related to his gaming channel or Photoshop?

lapis crane
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I mod there it's pretty cool πŸ˜„

wide obsidian
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how can i make this seem more realistic

strong gate
severe otter
strong gate
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I mean, it's not common for a dutch guy to get that popular internationally AND live stones throw away from my office

strong gate
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btw, didn't find his address through the wiki, his company business nr. is registered to a home address.

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would probably not have done that myself

lapis crane
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Wtf

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How did I manage to run into you

lapis crane
lapis crane
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He's a nice guy

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We talk sometimes

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But his art is legendary

tall cedar
strong gate
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<@&548221840750018590> scamlinks in chat

boreal moth
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Who can help me

strong gate
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πŸ™‚

onyx forge
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Any good graphic designers here?

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i have a small one job offer, message me

grizzled jungle
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Before

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Any tips to make it look more real?

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and beautiful

quick sable
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May be you can make it brighter

strong gate
# grizzled jungle after

I already replied you in #❓ask-a-question before, right?
is the After a new one or the same image? (sorry, to lazy to go search for it)
Cause it looks pretty nice.
I'd still add a bit more gradient to the sky going from light bottom to dark on top.

uncut canopy
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Good Morning Everyone

strong gate
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Morning Kajrov

thorn solar
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morning

uncut canopy
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hi @thorn solar have you used sekvens instead of short cut any time?

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Then you select anything from menu press Alt then look for under line leter for example New Canvas Alt F, N for modify a selection. Alt, S, M, C or E

thorn solar
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I don't really get what are you talking about?

uncut canopy
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good morning @strong gate sorry for slow answer

thorn solar
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ah, yes, I know it's a thing but it sometimes annoys me lol

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when I hold alt for a sec to do something else and this sequence thing goes off

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then I'm like 'uh go away'

uncut canopy
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you need not hold down Alt only click

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I like it special then all shortcut not work on my keyboard

thorn solar
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yes, I hold it to do something else and then it thinks I want to use it

grizzled jungle
strong gate
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no worries @grizzled jungle
I've been working with PS for years and still struggle with the gradient tool from time to time

weary nymph
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i need help

thorn solar
winter fractal
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Hey everyone 😊

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i am new here, glad to join the server

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Yay!

strong gate
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welcome aboard πŸ™‚

lunar summit
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Any one from 4chan here

strong gate
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odd question, but haven't been there in ages

lunar summit
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Odd is just a answer, question is just a thought

strong gate
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I'm 14 and this is deep?

lunar summit
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Deep in what. 14 is just a number

strong gate
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whooosh πŸ˜„

lunar summit
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Hi folks

lapis crane
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Hola

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How you doing?

lunar summit
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Great

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you?

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I had a question about photoshop

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I'm trying to create a design like this

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I can't figure out how to cut out an empty space from this shape though

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i circled the area where i want it to be empty

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so i can put text and all

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if anyone knows how to do this id really appreciate some insight

lapis crane
lunar summit
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I can't

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There's a background behind it

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Itll look weird

lunar summit
lapis crane
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Not that I know of... I'm a noob at this stuff πŸ˜…

lunar summit
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ah, no worries thanks for the help

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Alright will do

winter fractal
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is it ok if we share our artwork here ?

formal meadow
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My drawing pen on photoshop is acting slow when drawing. I need help please

lunar summit
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starlyn

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would you happen to know how to remove part of a shape

formal meadow
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What kind of shape are you trying to remove

lunar summit
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Trying to remove this part from this rounded rectangle

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end goal is something like this

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you see how there's a gap?

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that's what i'm trying to achieve

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I have no idea how to cut out a portion of the rectangle though

formal meadow
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You can use the rectangle shape to get it to look like image from your drawing . Using the shape tool .

lunar summit
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I'm a bit confused

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what do you mean

formal meadow
strong gate
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if you have questions, make sure you ask them in #❓ask-a-question there are some people there that keep an eye on things and try to help out if they can.
this channel will sometimes go ignored and is meant more as a general chat πŸ™‚

blazing wave
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i need a mentor

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someone to teach me how to properly draw

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anyone up for a challange?

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if you are then DM me

strong gate
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there's tons of challenges and tutorials on this discord @blazing wave
I'd suggest following some of those.

blazing wave
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i work better in those environments

strong gate
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then it's better to go to school for it.

blazing wave
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im alr failing art class

strong gate
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then you need to talk to your teachers

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I mean, you or your parents pay them to teach you.

blazing wave
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e..p.l.a.i.n

strong gate
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if you're failing, it means they're failing

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if you have examples of things you're stuck on learning, you can always ask your questions in #❓ask-a-question and someone can give you some steps to tackle your issue.

tough vale
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not sure if it is the same globally but Adobe have 16% off LR/PS packages here in the UK at the moment ☺️

naive crane
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@lunar summit hey dude why did you block me?

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@lunar summit i was downloading a game and support just log out

normal dove
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hey dont trust this guy as soon as you login via the link you get hacked FYI

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reset the password before they buy anything

naive crane
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yeah i figured it out wanted to troll him a bit more

normal dove
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just saying it for everyone to be aware

naive crane
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ahh got it

strong gate
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<@&548221840750018590> might be good to ban @lunar summit from the discord as this is a pretty clear example of the Steam hacking scam that's going around discord servers

whole fractal
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Thanks for the headsup @strong gate

vernal fieldBOT
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Gave +1 Creative Carma to @strong gate

echo tundra
strong gate
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yeh, that'll work

blazing zodiac
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May go live too finish my animation project in Photoshop today soon.

alpine ember
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Hello, I have a question about image resolution

blazing zodiac
alpine ember
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What is the difference between ppi, image resolution, display resolution?

blazing zodiac
alpine ember
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ohh okayy thank you I got a follow up question maybe you know the answer haha

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does changing the ppi but same pixel dimesion affects the file size?

blazing zodiac
alpine ember
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Okayy okayy thank youu

blissful cargo
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ppi stands for pixels per inch, and if you have an increased density of pixel samples the file data will become slightly larger

alpine ember
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So if the pixel dimesion is the same but different ppi one of the image would increase the size?

blissful cargo
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technically yes

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if you're able

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i suggest you download a hex editor and view an image file in one for fun, if you haven't done it before

alpine ember
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so adjusting the ppi is the one who makes the file size bigger am I right?

blissful cargo
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yes

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it will

alpine ember
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But why does internet says, the file size of an image depends entirely on its pixel dimensions.

blissful cargo
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while if you increase the ppi, aren't you adding more pixel dimension to the image

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it only makes sense, right

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what's the point in ppi if it does nothing for your image

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any operation that increases or lowers the quality of an image will surely make it smaller or larger

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it's a pretty basic concept

alpine ember
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So this is wrong??

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I try to adjust ppi but the same pixel dimesion but as I save it it still the same file size

blissful cargo
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if you want proof, look at this:

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i drew a simple scribble on a 200 ppi document

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i then copied it into a 300 ppi document and saved that too

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if we compare them, they are internally different

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and one of them is a little larger

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the offset of the 300 ppi document is increased by 3

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from the bottom

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as you can see, the one with a higher ppi is indeed larger

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as i had suspected

alpine ember
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Okayy okayy thank you I am still a bit confused haha

simple lion
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polar hamlet
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Hi I’m new to photo shop does anyone have any good recommendations for a starter tutorial?

polar hamlet
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Just dm the video or tutorial cuz I have to leave

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I’ve watched two or three tutorials for all of them are complicated

uncut canopy
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I take a break now back after Lunch some time

lunar summit
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hi

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does anyone have .raw images?

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one of these extensions

.3fr,
.ari, .arw,
.bay,
.braw, .crw, .cr2, .cr3,
.cap,
.data, .dcs, .dcr, .dng,
.drf,
.eip, .erf,
.fff,
.gpr,
.iiq,
.k25, .kdc,
.mdc, .mef, .mos, .mrw,
.nef, .nrw,
.obm, .orf,
.pef, .ptx, .pxn,
.r3d, .raf, .raw, .rwl, .rw2, .rwz,
.sr2, .srf, .srw,
.tif,
.x3f
thorn solar
strong gate
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Or just export one yourself

thorn solar
lunar summit
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and I lost my SD card full of them

thorn solar
lunar summit
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photo editing

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specifically refining

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for white balance bloom blur effect

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if you have one I can give u a link where u can upload it

thorn solar
lunar summit
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anything

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portrait preferrably

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land scape would help refine my skills though

thorn solar
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ppi vs file size

vague canyon
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Hello, I need help

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can anyone help me?

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Last time when i wanted my any object to fit on the corner

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it was automaticaly doing it

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now it got changed

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or maybe i changed it from settings i dont remember

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and now it's like that

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Now i need to move it my self

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and i dont like that

strong gate
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pretty sure this is related to View > Snap to
If changing that doesn't work, let is know in #❓ask-a-question what you're running into

uncut canopy
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Good afternoon @strong gate and @thorn solar and chat.

strong gate
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hey Kaj πŸ™‚ all good?

thorn solar
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hello

uncut canopy
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yes all is good was up in the middle of the night and answer question.
I read @lunar summit question and her big list of RAW formats thats a big jungles of format 🀨 so I found this on Wiki, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_image_format for them how is interested

A camera raw image file contains minimally processed data from the image sensor of either a digital camera, a motion picture film scanner, or other image scanner. Raw files are named so because they are not yet processed and therefore are not ready to be printed or edited with a bitmap graphics editor. Normally, the image is processed by a raw ...

strong gate
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I saw this morning πŸ˜‚ .. I decided not to dig too deep once I saw that

lunar summit
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lol

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is there a lightroom discord

uncut canopy
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No! You can ask Lightroom question in #❓ask-a-question on this server and even Dn Dimension that after PS ver. 22.5 been a way to make editable 3D for PS

lunar summit
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i don't have a light room question lol

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this is my first ever edit I did

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original

strong gate
uncut canopy
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Pirog look good

lunar summit
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worked on blemishes on skin @stoic bane

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this one blends into the photo and you wouldn't know

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i see other people just but beauty filter on the whole face lol

blissful cargo
thorn solar
blissful cargo
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i simply changed the ppi of the document, no questions there

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same document size

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i don't know how i can explain this to you

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slightly

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actually

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@thorn solar send me those images you have

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all 4 of them

thorn solar
thorn solar
blissful cargo
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no problem

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it's not like i've already tried this myself and proved it though...

thorn solar
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Your proof was 2 byte difference in hex editor

blissful cargo
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nope

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@thorn solar i can't believe your ignorance on this topic

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i actually cannot believe it

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you think you can say the file sizes are the same when CLEARLY they are different

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it doesn't matter if it's by 2 bytes or 10 bytes

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they are DIFFERENT

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want me to say these words again

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louder for you?

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maybe i do

thorn solar
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Hey I'm sorry, I only try to get the facts. I'm also interested why are you saying those are different

blissful cargo
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because they are

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why wouldn't i say that

thorn solar
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Ok

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No need to prove that then

blissful cargo
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why would i say that to a person asking a question about it who doesn't understand it

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it doesn't make sense

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sorry if i sounded harsh but

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this is the truth

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now, i will say this

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@thorn solar

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the byte difference likely depends on the image content itself

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that scribble i drew as not extremely intensive, so the byte difference was around 2-3 bytes

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however, with something such as an intricate graphical poster, it should produce a much larger byte difference

thorn solar
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Interesting, I'm not that into the code side of graphics, could you say more about this graphical poster? Does it have something to do with compression? After exporting my images with different ppi I checked their properties and windows said they are the exact same byte size, that's why I thought they are the same size

fading kiln
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Does anyone here work on color coded kpop arrays?

keen cloak
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Since changing the ppi of an image should only change a small piece of data in the file, the file size should remain unchanged or only slightly changed.

lime pagoda
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The new challenge... is it just masking?

blissful cargo
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so here's my general consensus: if you want to approach it from a general perspective, you can say that they do remain the same size and nothing else is changed. however, from a technical perspective, the file data always changes in size internally regardless. @thorn solar

blissful cargo
blissful cargo
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compression helps to reduce the amount of bytes needed to store a file, and a file can then be decompressed by a program when needed

gaunt merlin
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Heyyyy I am new and i started ps today

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idk id i am allowed to post pics here....but I did this

blissful cargo
gaunt merlin
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not the pic itself but the designing

gaunt merlin
blissful cargo
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and i'm intrigued to see what you have to show!

uncut canopy
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Good night guys

keen cloak
blissful cargo
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That is such an absurd assumption

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oh, look at that

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you're wrong

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i just tested it by comparing a 300 ppi and 301 ppi image containing the same content and they are different in file size

thorn solar
keen cloak
blissful cargo
blissful cargo
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scroll down to the very bottom

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and you will see the byte difference

keen cloak
blissful cargo
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it depends

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i raised it by 1 ppi

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from 300 ppi to 301 ppi

keen cloak
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what does it depend on?

blissful cargo
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how much you raise the ppi obviously

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i don't know how this is hard for you to comprehend

keen cloak
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Seems like you are having s difficult time comprehending. How many bytes exactly are used to represent the ppi in the file?

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could you possibly be changing the number of pixels in the file when you do this?

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could those extra bytes perhaps represent the additional pixels in your new image?

blissful cargo
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when you raise the ppi, even by 1, several bytes throughout the file are added, changed, or removed

keen cloak
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Yes...the extra pixels perhaps?

blissful cargo
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do i need to make myself clearer

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yes, likely the extra pixels

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but the ppi is still a factor

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and as a result of changing the ppi, the pixels are affected

thorn solar
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But we were talking about ppi alone

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Not the image resolution

blissful cargo
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yeah, we are

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if you change the ppi

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it changes the file size

keen cloak
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so, the ppi is likely held in a very small set of bytes. The "extra data" you are seeing is the change in number of pixels. If you were to edit the file in a way to just change the ppi value you would likely see a new ppi value with no change in file size

thorn solar
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How possibly by changing ppi you would get extra pixels?

blissful cargo
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there's absolutely no point

keen cloak
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sure. If I dl an image with a certain ppi value off teh web for example and I want to chaneg it for print

blissful cargo
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but that really isn't going to do anything significant

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yes, it informs whatever you're interfacing with that it's for print, but it doesn't do anything beneficial

keen cloak
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it is if the tool I am importing it into reads ppi values

blissful cargo
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yes, it just informs it

keen cloak
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and I place together differnt valued data

blissful cargo
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but it doesn't do anything for the data in the file

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smh

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do you need further explanation or do you understand

keen cloak
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assuming the ppi data is in the file, then it DOES change the data in the file.

blissful cargo
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YES, that is what i meant, it changes the resolution and it's for a good reason

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at least in photoshop

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if you were using a different tool, that's understandable

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but what purpose it serves

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that's your question to answer

keen cloak
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The question is could you change the ppi in a file without changing the size. The answer is "yes"

blissful cargo
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technically yes, but why would you just change the value

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there's no purpose in doing that except for informing another software that it's for print or another type of application

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there is no other benefit that you can argue

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the resolution change is there for a reason in ps

keen cloak
blissful cargo
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you can't dispute it

blissful cargo
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but that serves no benefit to me

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that's why upscaling exists, but that's more for photographs

keen cloak
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Oh. I did not realize we were limiting this to things that had benefit to you. IN that case, no, I do not know your particular situation.

blissful cargo
#

they're not only things that benefit me

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why would anyone want to do that but you

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explain

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what is the benefit to you

keen cloak
#

You are importing data that is to be a certain physical size. The image data represents that. It is important for the tool to know the ppi of the image

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"I want this box, when imported, to be 1 inch square.

blissful cargo
#

yes, that is true, but the resolution needs to be good enough for it to be exported a certain way

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for example

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why would you increase the ppi for a 50x50 image, literally does nothing

keen cloak
#

well, it LITERALLY does...

blissful cargo
#

whereas for a larger image with adequate resolution, changing the resolution does have a slight positive impact

blissful cargo
#

would you like to reverse engineer image data with me

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i can show you

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i can PROVE it

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it's right there in front of your face and you can't see it

thorn solar
keen cloak
#

It does. If I import an image that is to be a 1 inch square image, because THAT is what it represents, the ppi of the image make a large difference.

blissful cargo
#

yes, the ppi represents the desired print for the image

keen cloak
#

The ppi informs the customer application how the image is to be rendered.

blissful cargo
#

but if the image is so small it can't be scaled to that print, there's no point

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say what you want

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i can't assist you with your delusion

keen cloak
#

If we wish to restrict this to what usage it could have in Pear';s workflow, I have no idea. I do not know Pear's workflow.

blissful cargo
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@keen cloak stop using the third person

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i have tried to be as professional as possible here, but the amount of ignorance of people in regards to the technicalities of file data is absurd

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maybe i misinterpreted the question, yes, but what i said before is the truth

keen cloak
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I'm pretty new here, but perhaps NOT calling people absurd or ignorant may help with your professionalism.

blissful cargo
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good point, but it's because of that which causes me to get to this point

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i apologize for being difficult, and i will be more considerate of questions in the future

keen cloak
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To which my answer is most likely no.

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If you disagree that is fine, we can agree to disagree. πŸ™‚

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and as for you comment "while if you increase the ppi, aren't you adding more pixel dimension to the image
it only makes sense, right" I also agree.

blissful cargo
keen cloak
#

Yes. I do not know how in Photoshop to change the ppi without changing the pixel dimensions (if it is even possible).

thorn solar
keen cloak
#

Well, but that is not the same as just changing the ppi. You are going through 2 resampling phases in what you describe

thorn solar
keen cloak
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If you uncheck resample image in the image size dialog, you cannot change the pixel size

keen cloak
thorn solar
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There is no resampling as pixel size stays the same

keen cloak
thorn solar
keen cloak
thorn solar
#

I'm in bed now but I did it like 10 times today, first to make sure I do it correctly, then to make sure only ppi is affected and then to get samples. I was working on a live psd file that was 2000x2000px. To change only ppi I used image size function. I operated on 72ppi and 300ppi to get real results. I changed the ppi in image size dialog and without applying it I changed pixel dimensions back to 2000x2000px. Then I applied it and exported the file both to png and jpg to see whether compression has anything to do with it. In both cases windows explorer's properties said there is no difference in byte size between 72ppi and 300ppi files

keen cloak
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On CS6, I cannot chaneg the pixel size if I have resample image unchecked.

fast gyro
#

Hey fam!Support my latest work please πŸ™πŸ˜Œ

strong gate
brisk sapphire
#

hey lil guy

wicked yacht
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yo does some1 use photo shop if yes can u help me I need help with something

rare ridge
#

Hey! Is anyone familiar with where I can find fur brushes?

thorn solar
lunar summit
#

hi

arctic island
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Hi

strong gate
strong gate
thorn solar
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@keen cloak @blissful cargo
Here. I changed the ppi with resampling unchecked and compared the data in HxD. There are 8 different bytes. There is no file size difference

uncut canopy
#

Good afternoon everyone

uncut canopy
keen cloak
#

I cannot leave resampling uncheked as I hadnoted before, it makes changing the resolution impossible.

blissful cargo
#

have you ever used a hex editor before

thorn solar
thorn solar
blissful cargo
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i think you're doing something unusual in the process

thorn solar
#

...

blissful cargo
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no one would do it the way you're doing it anyway

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smh

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get good

thorn solar
#

that's an interesting approach to well stated fact

blissful cargo
#

if you want me to believe you, show me the exact process you followed

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and if i can replicate it correctly, then i guess that's the method everyone should be using from now on

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otherwise, no point

thorn solar
#

I described it quite thoroughly if you scroll up

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ok let's do it together

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get any image and open it in Ps

blissful cargo
#

let me guess

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go to image size, uncheck resampling, and change ppi

thorn solar
#

make sure you can see this

blissful cargo
#

i can thank you

thorn solar
#

and change ppi to other value

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even Ps knows at this point it will not change file size

blissful cargo
#

and, you're wrong

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there's a definite file size change

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you clearly don't get it

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you must not be using hxd correctly

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cause i followed your EXACT steps

thorn solar
#

woah easy we didn't leave ps yet

polar hamlet
#

What’s a good starter tutorial for photo shop I’ve watched some but there all complicated

thorn solar
keen cloak
polar hamlet
blissful cargo
#

eh, learn tab is okay

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i would recommend checking out PHLEARN

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they have some great videos

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that's where i started many years ago

thorn solar
polar hamlet
#

Ok

blissful cargo
#

he's trying to prove something false

polar hamlet
#

I do 3-D modeling for fun and wanted to do photo shop so I use my libraries computers because they provide the whole adobe suit

polar hamlet
#

Ye

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It is pretty nice

blissful cargo
#

photoshop is a great program

#

lots of features and rich opportunities

thorn solar
polar hamlet
blissful cargo
polar hamlet
#

That’s why I’m looking for a good tutorial

blissful cargo
#

i see

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well, there are always crash courses, however

#

i would recommend watching an actual series

polar hamlet
#

Yea

blissful cargo
#

PHLEARN has a great Photoshop for 30 days series

#

it's free

#

and quite insightful and in-depth

polar hamlet
#

What’s this on?

blissful cargo
#

youtube

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trust me, that is the one place to go for some great ps content

#

Adobe also has their own tutorials

keen cloak
blissful cargo
#

though i never watched them much

polar hamlet
#

Oh ok

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Guess I’ll get to work after school

thorn solar
#

I'll share my screen in vc

blissful cargo
#

still got same results

#

png is uncompressed

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so there's nothing to hide there

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you can't @thorn solar

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unless you have privileges

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and honestly, there's no point in you doing so

#

it's quite obvious what the results are

thorn solar
#

72 ppi

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300 ppi

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here @blissful cargo those are my files

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download those and say if there is a size difference

blissful cargo
#

they are indeed the same size, but you had to have modified the ppi externally

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there is no way ps would produce that

#

ever

thorn solar
#

I did it in Photoshop...

blissful cargo
#

sure you did

thorn solar
#

do you want me to record that?

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I did what I described earlier

keen cloak
#

ok...I can confirm with a simple bmp file I made in photoshop, using Wertos method reulted ina file with the exact same size and only one byte changed in the hex editor

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sorry I made in paint

blissful cargo
#

i'm using his method and it's not

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and i am following it exactly

keen cloak
#

I just repeated it here with a bmp.

blissful cargo
#

i opened up one of the images

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went to image size

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unchecked resampling

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set width and height to 100%

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made sure the image size remained the same, and the pixel dimensions

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changed ppi by 1 from 300 to 301 ppi

keen cloak
#

loaded it into photoshop, unchecked resample, set to 100% and changed the ppi. Saved the file back out as a 1 bit bmp. same file except for one byte (presumeably a header info that ives ppi)

blissful cargo
#

saved a copy of the file

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compared them

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and they are NOT THE SAME SIZE

keen cloak
#

I think it depends on the file format

blissful cargo
#

well you know what

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his method is flawed then

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if it only works with particular file formats, what's the point

#

what a useless proposal

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i don't care if you used bmp

keen cloak
#

You said you picked a png correct?

blissful cargo
#

yes

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a png, a tiff

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etc.

keen cloak
#

png uses lossless compression

blissful cargo
#

i have tried several COMMON file formats

blissful cargo
keen cloak
#

bmp does not

blissful cargo
#

does it look like i haven't analyzed these file formats before

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cause i have

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i've literally reverse-engineered them

keen cloak
#

What format did you use Wertos?

blissful cargo
#

probably a redundant format that no one uses

keen cloak
blissful cargo
#

it says those images are .png

thorn solar
#

Well, I do it in photoshop, on a psd file and I don't understand why would file compression (which is applied in a entirely different step) affect it

blissful cargo
#

i meant i've looked through these files and understand them fully

keen cloak
#

Because compression compresses the data in the file wertos. Change one byte and you change the entire output

blissful cargo
#

exactly

#

it's quite an obvious concept

keen cloak
#

Pear, what drives this style of communication?

blissful cargo
#

what drives it

thorn solar
#

ok do you want me not to compress it?

blissful cargo
#

the fact that no one listens to what i'm trying to point out

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and you can say i'm not listening to you

#

but i am

thorn solar
#

What do I have to use? dng? or psb?

blissful cargo
#

and i've tried all these methods

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nothing works

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so they are flawed

keen cloak
#

But what Wertos is stating does indeed work under certain circumstances.

blissful cargo
#

certain circumstances

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those two words

keen cloak
#

Yes. As with most things

blissful cargo
#

just immediately defeat his argument

#

sure

#

"most things"

#

what do you define as most things

#

care to elaborate

thorn solar
#

the question was whether the ppi affects image size. and the answer is no. no, unless you change pixel dimensions

keen cloak
#

Yes, most things tend to require a set of circumstances to be deemed true.

blissful cargo
#

in many circumstances

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only the circumstances you showed the file size didn't change

keen cloak
#

In many cases it does Wertos.

blissful cargo
#

phew

#

are we done yet

keen cloak
#

It does in some cases Pear. It's obvious. To claim t does not is absurd.

thorn solar
#

in what cases?

#

I literally sent two images with the same pixel size and different ppi and they are the same size

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It's not like I'm here for the drama... I want to make it clear and know the answer

keen cloak
#

Wertos. Load up a jpg. Perform your methos

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save it out

#

see if the file sizes are the same

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pretty much any jpg

thorn solar
keen cloak
#

I just downloaded a jpg of a video card. Did the 100% and changed it from 72dpi, to 300dpi. saved it out. Different file sizes.

thorn solar
#

I'm not saying the data is the same. They are different ppi so the data itself cannot be exactly the same. However, the file size is the same for me no matter what I do 😦

keen cloak
#

Try your method on this file.

thorn solar
#

ok

keen cloak
#

all that changed between the 2 is ppi and saving it out

thorn solar
#

I think I found your problem:

keen cloak
#

no "problem". I did as we discussed on photo and saved it back out

thorn solar
#

this is your 72 ppi image set to difference over you 300 ppi and a solar filter. It is not 100% pitch black so every non-black pixel represents different pixel data

keen cloak
#

and yet, I did exactly what you specified in photoshop

thorn solar
#

so there either is a different compression method applied or some other kind of resampling? but you check everything out, right?

#

ok let me try my way

keen cloak
#

Make sure to use a jpg

#

as the starting file

thorn solar
#

sure

keen cloak
#

Don't start with a file alreadyin photoshop and just save it twice

thorn solar
#

the question also is which jpeg compression should I use?

keen cloak
#

Try this one. It is 96ppi. Change to 300ppi and see what filesize you get

thorn solar
#

what my file size will be depends entirely on jpeg compression quality. Additionally, compressing a compressed image surely will affect it's size and I believe this is not what the question was about?

keen cloak
#

I thought the question was if ppi changed did it change filesize

#

I'd liek to changethe ppi on that file and keep the same filesize

thorn solar
#

the question was about exporting a ps document and whether higher ppi will make the file bigger

#

now we are recompressing jpegs

#

now I see what the problem was. While I was exporting a Ps file with different settings you were reapplying compression. In this case you are absolutely right

keen cloak
#

Most any file format has the ability to use compression, even if it is lossless.

#

Therefore any asset you bring into PS even if you do not change the pixel data , you will liekly change the filesize.

#

If you explicitly save your files without compression and the original asset did not use compression, you can likely just change the few bytes in the header that give the ppi setting

#

Thus the "under certain circumstances" caveat.

thorn solar
keen cloak
#

but even with export ppi. just changing the ppi CAN change your filesize.

#

in some cases.

#

Some file format use compression on the header data as well.

umbral crystal
#

yo can someone come into a voice chat with me and help me out on photoshop briefly?

keen cloak
#

then you are back to , change one byte, change the whole file. (Pixel data remains the same)

#

The data remains the same. The bytes that represent them change because the input to the lossless compression algorithm chnages.

#

Make sense?

blissful cargo
vernal fieldBOT
#

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @keen cloak

keen cloak
keen cloak
#

For his workflow, he can MOST OF THE TIME change his ppi and not change his filesize...

#

Back to trying to diagnose this poor 3D printer

strong gate
#

πŸ€” and here I am just casually shoving my files into TinyJPG and TinyPNG after I exported them

blissful cargo
#

need i say more

#

probably not

glad mulch
#

can anyone experienced make 4 pctures for me for (Free?) or a bit of money?

#

pls dm me if u can i need someone

#

to help me

keen cloak
blissful cargo
#

how dare you claim what @thorn solar said was true for all situations

keen cloak
#

It was true for his and many situations.

#

"How dare I"? LOL

blissful cargo
#

no

#

you're wrong

keen cloak
#

It's demonstrably so.

blissful cargo
#

i suggest you go re-learn computing then

#

oh well

keen cloak
#

Nope. Doing fine with my Masters in Signal processing.

blissful cargo
#

some people never learn

#

sure you are

#

maybe you should learn some machine assembly and get back in touch with me when you're actually competent in learning how file data works and how it's read, processed, and written

#

for now, you nor @thorn solar are good enough

#

so get off your high horse

keen cloak
#

I was writing micro-code, likely when you were in diapers LOL.

blissful cargo
#

sure

#

keep going, i don't care

keen cloak
#

It seems you do... which is strange

blissful cargo
#

seems you do too

#

we're both replying to each other

#

i guess i'll stop then

keen cloak
#

I do. I never claimed not to

blissful cargo
#

you seem to think i know nothing about file data and its internal structures and photoshop processes particular file types

keen cloak
#

I'm always interested in the truth. In this case, Wertos' workflow allows him to change ppi setting without affecting file size. As I claimed originally, absent compression that includes the header data in files, you can usually do this. I was surprised to find out the method could be achieved in Photoshop as I had not one it in that method previously.

blissful cargo
blissful cargo
#

do i need to clarify that

#

clearly i do

#

and it cannot be done for all files

keen cloak
#

In his case, he was not even referring to imported files though.

keen cloak
blissful cargo
#

so what's the point

#

if it's not 100% effective

#

gay

#

just throw it away

#

if it's not going to work for every file it is a futile method

#

so say what you want but it's the truth

keen cloak
blissful cargo
#

but why would you share it with others

#

makes no sense

#

since it's not likely to benefit a majority of users

#

i would only share methods that benefit most people using ps

#

not obscure ones that are prone to error

keen cloak
#

Many memory management techniques used in coding microprocesssors are not universally applicable. They work in some circumstances. Sharing those techniques with others helps them in those circumstances.

blissful cargo
#

not if someone formulates a better technique for managing memory and thread-load distribution

keen cloak
#

"better"

blissful cargo
#

yep

#

an innovative, new technique that will work for a majority, not a minority

keen cloak
#

A good example woudl be a universally applicable technique , does not achieve the optimal memory compression.

#

that a specific technique applied to the given circumstance does

blissful cargo
#

and still here you are trying to avoid the point and imply that wertos's method should be the adopted one

#

you seem to advocate for his method

#

it's interesting

keen cloak
#

Heck, I remember back in the day we would release code that we knew would bug under certain very cases simply because it was the only way to fit it into 4k.

#

"should be the adopted one"? You read to much into things.

blissful cargo
#

well then you should've have released it then

keen cloak
#

we did

blissful cargo
#

smh

#

that's bad practice then

keen cloak
#

no, that is the way engineering works

blissful cargo
#

who were you releasing it to

keen cloak
#

you release a car you know will get destroyed under certain circumsatnces because no one can afford a $3M vehicle.

blissful cargo
#

it is not the way it should work, that's all i'll say

#

whatever, assert what you want

#

i don't buy it

#

cause you're a pretty bad engineer if you actually did that

keen cloak
#

Its great we have Indy cars that can slam into a wall at 200mph and the guy gets out and waves to teh crowd, but to think we woudl incorporate that "universally" working solution into everyone's car and sell it for $500k+ would mean very few people owned cars.

#

Engineering works that way.

long shore
#

I need some help

#

I'm tying t make the letters like have a background

#

what do i do?

deft wadi
fast gyro
strong gate
blissful cargo
# keen cloak Engineering works that way.

i can't imagine living in a world where we release products to customers deliberately that have faulty components just because we're too lazy to test and further develop said products to accommodate for the few rare possiblities

#

you sure can though

thorn solar
#

Is there anything more to argue about? Some of us misunderstood the question asked, that's all

keen cloak
#

Most of your electronic devices in your home we know will fail under a high enough EM field. We could harden the electronics to the level we need to for use in space, but we accept the failure rate that can occur because we do not want a $40,000 TV set, etc.

thorn solar
#

There was not mine or your method. We were simply doing different things. I was exporting the image twice from Photoshop in different ppi when you were changing the ppi and compared it to the existing file. My both files were a fresh export when you were comparing your export to someone else's export

#

That's why we couldn't agree. We were doing something different

keen cloak
thorn solar
#

The original question was whether the ppi affects exported file size... So I exported a file twice with different ppi and found no size difference. That's all

keen cloak
#

for certain file types, that is correct

thorn solar
#

I found it correct for jpg and png

keen cloak
#

Great. those two evidently do not apply compression to their headers, bmp worked as well

thorn solar
#

What are you trying to say?

keen cloak
#

That if you export twice toa file format that uses compression on its header (whhre the ppi info is stored) you can get different fie sizes even exporting an image twice

thorn solar
#

I see. The question was about exporting for screens and web so I assumed png or jpg will be used for export, that's why I focused on those two

keen cloak
#

and that is why I was stating to Pear, so long as you understand your workflow, I don't see why you would not use that method to change ppi. I didn't even know you could do it that way in Photoshop.

vapid sparrow
#

Hello

versed portal
#

Hi

polar hamlet
#

Wait how serious is this chat?

#

On a scale of 1-10 ten boing really serious

blissful cargo
#

it was originally a 10

#

but we've resolved our argument now πŸ™‚

lunar summit
#

can anyone photoshop my grades

blissful cargo
#

please tell me your kidding

lunar summit
#

no im not

#

never

blissful cargo
#

this server is not the place to ask questions like that

distant elm
strong gate
#

Morning everyone πŸ™‚

thorn solar
#

hello

strong gate
#

honestly not a fan of telling people how they can commit fraud @wide yoke

#

even if joking

thorn solar
#

the person asking left the server tho

strong gate
#

it's always funny how that happens

uncut canopy
#

@wide yoke and @thorn solar sorry that I broke your discussion in the other channel #❓ask-a-question but this is the right channel to have this discussion.

#

Good morning everyone!

wide yoke
#

Sorry, I'll keep deleting.

#

All messages deleted, sorry for disruption.

tough vale
#

it is so cloudy and wet here - could be a day to head to a waterfall πŸ€”

strong gate
#

I haven't even seen the sky today yet.

#

it was suppose to rain, but so far nothing

#
  • mother nature used sky replacement. It was super effective *
tough vale
#

maybe it's a good excuse to test PS sky replacements πŸ€”

tropic rapids
#

What's everyone designing today?

vast pier
#

ive been trying to perfect my highlights for the past 3 hours

#

wbu

severe otter
#

@unkempt vector

#

Basically advertising to buy an account. Don't think that's allowed.

unkempt vector
#

Thanks for letting me know

obsidian prawn
#

Hello everyone! From today I'm also in the Discord-chat! πŸ‘‹πŸ‘‹πŸ‘‹

strong gate
severe otter
severe otter
tropic rapids
vernal fieldBOT
#

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @strong gate

strong gate
#

If you got any questions, feel free to ask them in #❓ask-a-question and I'll happily help you along πŸ™‚
if you ever got any direct questions about work I've done, you can just dm me

unkempt vector
strong gate
#

I was wondering what that was πŸ˜„

unkempt vector
strong gate
#

aah nice one πŸ™‚

#

also nice I can now confirm I'm not a bot .. always a hard thing to get across to my boss when he piles up some more work for me.

severe otter
unkempt vector
#

Takes a bit longer than that

severe otter
#

The bot roled 16k people in 10 seconds

#

In a server I am moderater in. So I think it won't be a problem here.

severe otter
unkempt vector
#

Not quite

severe otter
#

What what

#

Well then the owner of that server lied to me..

#

Rip

severe otter
unkempt vector
#

You can delete a role and that would remove it from everyone in 10 seconds. But a bot can't give it to everybody because of API request limits

severe otter
#

Yeah thats true.

#

Slow API. 🀣

lunar summit
#

h

#

im sorry

#

are there any premium freepik users here

#

i need help please

#

i'll pay you

strong gate
#

Not sure what you need help with, but I'd contact freepik. They got a support page.

polar hamlet
#

Does someone want to recreate this in photoshop I made this on my phone because I’m on a long car ride

#

I just want to see how good someone can make this lookπŸ™ƒ

#

It would look better with less sharpining

#

Just dm me the final result if you can and if you did itπŸ™ƒ

polar hamlet
#

πŸ‘†

blissful cargo
#

this is the logo i made specifically for this occasion, though i only had a short amount of time to do it (and thus it's not entirely perfect), and it sure looks quite detailed and intricate!

#

it's based off the official game logo; the only noticeable differences are that mine doesn't have a curve (as per client request) and the letters don't overlap

halcyon plaza
#

hey

#

can anyone here call? I need help with something that should be simple but im still really new

#

I just learn better one on one\

halcyon plaza
#

Hey pearr

#

sorry for disappearing yesterday

royal oar
#

hello, if anyone is interested in doing a car wrap photo on photoshop dm me, for a competition, willing to pay

halcyon plaza
#

forgot I had a coding assignment due that night

blissful cargo
#

yes

#

we can do a private vc @halcyon plaza

lunar summit
#

Do the letters look mostly like the same? Is the brightness alright?

#

This is the original btw

royal oar
#

could anyone help me car wrap this photo? Willing to pay

lunar summit
lunar summit
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Thanks

obsidian prawn
uncut canopy
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Good morning

strong gate
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No

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Do your homework, study and fix your grades by actually deserving them.
If you have difficulty at school admit it to your teachers and parents and get actual assistance

uncut canopy
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Maybe time do ban from this server, this is ask someone to forge .

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<@&548221840750018590> what do you say about this

lunar summit
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qui est fr

unkempt vector
strong gate
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I've had a couple of these types of requests as DMs

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it's a bit frustrating at times

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but I guess I'm just getting old if this stuff bothers me πŸ˜„

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when I was a kid in this time of technology I'd probably think the same, but I'd at least be smart enough to do it myself

uncut canopy
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@strong gate did Denna kicked Vertos 2

strong gate
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don't know, could be

uncut canopy
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That was not good hi did a great job

thorn solar
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what no lol

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haha you guys buried me already

strong gate
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ohw .. wertos πŸ˜„ ..
I got confused with the V

uncut canopy
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no it was only that your message was deleted

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sorry for the misspell wertos

thorn solar
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I just deleted them to keep it clean πŸ˜…

uncut canopy
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nice

brazen elk
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guys

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help me to remove the background please 😦

strong gate
brazen elk
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Sorry Sir 😦

strong gate
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no problem πŸ™‚

bleak gulch
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Always feel it's good to do your work, don't rush to complete it leave it for a day and come back to it for improvements

low fossil
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i need help with adobe photoshop cs6, i want to redo the picture but i don't know how to do it. Will someone help me?

strong gate
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hi @low fossil if you can explain what you're stuck on in #❓ask-a-question someone can maybe help you out on how to progress.

orchid charm
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Hi

thorn solar
orchid charm
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Thanks

heady remnant
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Bonjour, il n’y a pas de franΓ§ais ?

sharp sigil
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Hiii

bleak gulch
heady remnant
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is a <@&548221840750018590> or <@&548221569533476888> available?

timber glen
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How can I help you

heady remnant
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Come private pls

timber glen
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DM me

uncut canopy
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Challenge 2021-12 #4 on way up