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I'd suggest asking your question in #βask-a-question
I'm sure there's someone who can help.
ok thx
Alr I'll leave this terrible server
pff ... some people π
Good night @strong gate and everyone from πΈπͺ
G'night Kajrov π
can anyone help me change the color on this design?
may you care to share what "this design" is
i figure it out
but you asked if someone could change the color on your design, assuming your design has already been designed
Hmm.
If anyone wants to help me create my commission sheet, shoot me a ping.
Can someone tell me why this is happening
I did layer by cut
But its deleted a border off the selection
First time using photoshop
Need help plz.
would you like to enter a vc
Whats vc
voice call
oh
you might have inverted your selection
this can happen by accident, don't worry
try pressing ctrl+shift+i
and then create the layer
Let me try
Nope thats not it. Anytime i selection a section to cut into a new layer it deletes a border off my selection
I dont get why its doing that
it might also be automatically selected
the invert option
@uneven scroll see if this helps: https://www.bwillcreative.com/how-to-invert-a-selection-in-photoshop/
i can't really infer what's going on without further context
Thanks anyway
Hopefully that helps
I'm quite certain the issue you're having is a simple misunderstanding with selection inversion
Its not the invert thing. All im tryong to do is cut an image off the background. I used the object selection tool and then press layer by cut. However everytome i do that it deletes the border of the image i copied.
maybe try expanding/contracting your selection
hi'
does anyone know a fix to lighting effects not working
i can adjust iy
i dont get this circle
the option in the right panel is the type of light you want to simulate
but i dont have that inner circle
oh how do i enable that!
here?
ok so
try going to photoshop preferences
do you see a native canvas option in technology previews
try checking on de-activate native canvas
and restart photoshop
if that doesn't fix it, re-enable it for good measure
ooh, nice
Heyy
yo
I got a question could someone help me make a promo banner I didn't know what else to look so I'm seeking some help
@blissful cargo
Oh yeah so Iβve already updated and uninstall softwareβs pretty much fix the ram so far since it seems to be working for now.
Yeah I still have to uninstall software is still having ram issues ATM.
Alright, well I would try to keep clearing out anything unnecessary on your PC that you don't need to the point where you'll actually be able to use Photoshop smoothly
good evening @strong gate sorry I not help you today.
it's all fine .. we're volunteers, right.
hope you had a great day. I spend most of mine in a ball pit with our little one π
hope little one enjoy
yeh, was great π
to morrow start new round of challengers with a kick of
I saw the site updated, curious what we got π
wonder if it not be Kathleen, she was first after last MAX if I'm not wrong
last I saw mentioned was Paul Trani.
and I think Val or Hoch for AI
Had not read new yet, or been on BΓͺhance Live
And Paul it will 2 weeks of fun, and speed
Time to bed, good night @strong gate
same here, g'night π
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how did he manage to fit the broken glass layer automatically to the corners of the window?
Hello. I noticed my brush strokes are delayed when i use it. I dont get why as i have 32gb ram and i only have youtube playing in the background. Cpu usage is at 1% memory at 20%
Any idea why ?
what are your flow and smoothing settings for your brush
4% flow and 100% smoothing....as i just noticed it π
Was following a youtube video and they didnt mention smoothing so i didnt kmow about it
I tried it at 50% flow and the brush is still delayed like theres a glitch
Its like 0.5 seconds late
Oooo damn
I just turned it off
Thanks man it solved it π
I thought my pc was breaking down on me. Thanks man life saver
π
dm me for premiere pro or photoshopo
Anyone can help me please?
he selected the layer mask of the windows he had and deleted the selection from the broken glass layer
Good morning everyone
Thank you
Gave +1 Creative Carma to @thorn solar
no idea what you're talking about ... π
π
I was expecting spam of messages in this server
nah .. most people here are professionals and have work to do π
Hey can someone help me? I want to photoshop something but not sure how to do it
sure
what do you need help with exactly
Im getting help. But thank you π
Photo manipulation guy
Is it more related to his gaming channel or Photoshop?
Photoshop
I mod there it's pretty cool π
how can i make this seem more realistic
I know his channel, I also know he lives near my previous work.
Everyone knows where he lives because of his Wikipedia.
I mean, it's not common for a dutch guy to get that popular internationally AND live stones throw away from my office
btw, didn't find his address through the wiki, his company business nr. is registered to a home address.
would probably not have done that myself
Yo yo yo yo yo
Wtf
How did I manage to run into you
Oooooof
Wires, Circle one has some erased parts on the inside. Black one looks squished into the back ground.
<@&548221840750018590> scamlinks in chat
Who can help me
May be you can make it brighter
I already replied you in #βask-a-question before, right?
is the After a new one or the same image? (sorry, to lazy to go search for it)
Cause it looks pretty nice.
I'd still add a bit more gradient to the sky going from light bottom to dark on top.
Good Morning Everyone
Morning Kajrov
morning
hi @thorn solar have you used sekvens instead of short cut any time?
Then you select anything from menu press Alt then look for under line leter for example New Canvas Alt F, N for modify a selection. Alt, S, M, C or E
I don't really get what are you talking about?
Look at this post I ad in #tips-and-tricks first video https://discordapp.com/channels/547473772727238676/553669724244934656/907454392406523954
good morning @strong gate sorry for slow answer
ah, yes, I know it's a thing but it sometimes annoys me lol
when I hold alt for a sec to do something else and this sequence thing goes off
then I'm like 'uh go away'
you need not hold down Alt only click
I like it special then all shortcut not work on my keyboard
yes, I hold it to do something else and then it thinks I want to use it
Embarrassingly, Idk how to do that :/
no worries @grizzled jungle
I've been working with PS for years and still struggle with the gradient tool from time to time
π
i need help
welcome aboard π
Any one from 4chan here
odd question, but haven't been there in ages
Odd is just a answer, question is just a thought
I'm 14 and this is deep?
Deep in what. 14 is just a number
whooosh π
Hi folks
Great
you?
I had a question about photoshop
I'm trying to create a design like this
I can't figure out how to cut out an empty space from this shape though
i circled the area where i want it to be empty
so i can put text and all
if anyone knows how to do this id really appreciate some insight
Just make a black line over the white line
Any other way to do it
is it ok if we share our artwork here ?
My drawing pen on photoshop is acting slow when drawing. I need help please
What kind of shape are you trying to remove
Trying to remove this part from this rounded rectangle
end goal is something like this
you see how there's a gap?
that's what i'm trying to achieve
I have no idea how to cut out a portion of the rectangle though
You can use the rectangle shape to get it to look like image from your drawing . Using the shape tool .
if you have questions, make sure you ask them in #βask-a-question there are some people there that keep an eye on things and try to help out if they can.
this channel will sometimes go ignored and is meant more as a general chat π
i need a mentor
someone to teach me how to properly draw
anyone up for a challange?
if you are then DM me
there's tons of challenges and tutorials on this discord @blazing wave
I'd suggest following some of those.
ik but i need to be taught directly
i work better in those environments
then it's better to go to school for it.
im alr failing art class
then you need to talk to your teachers
I mean, you or your parents pay them to teach you.
e..p.l.a.i.n
if you're failing, it means they're failing
if you have examples of things you're stuck on learning, you can always ask your questions in #βask-a-question and someone can give you some steps to tackle your issue.
not sure if it is the same globally but Adobe have 16% off LR/PS packages here in the UK at the moment βΊοΈ
@lunar summit hey dude why did you block me?
@lunar summit i was downloading a game and support just log out
hey dont trust this guy as soon as you login via the link you get hacked FYI
reset the password before they buy anything
yeah i figured it out wanted to troll him a bit more
just saying it for everyone to be aware
ahh got it
<@&548221840750018590> might be good to ban @lunar summit from the discord as this is a pretty clear example of the Steam hacking scam that's going around discord servers
Thanks for the headsup @strong gate
Gave +1 Creative Carma to @strong gate
yeh, that'll work
May go live too finish my animation project in Photoshop today soon.
Hello, I have a question about image resolution
Ok sure, I'll do my best. What's up?
What is the difference between ppi, image resolution, display resolution?
I have no clue but I found this so far.
ohh okayy thank you I got a follow up question maybe you know the answer haha
does changing the ppi but same pixel dimesion affects the file size?
It might? But @blissful cargo might know
Okayy okayy thank youu
yes, it would most definitely affect it
ppi stands for pixels per inch, and if you have an increased density of pixel samples the file data will become slightly larger
So if the pixel dimesion is the same but different ppi one of the image would increase the size?
yes!
technically yes
if you're able
i suggest you download a hex editor and view an image file in one for fun, if you haven't done it before
so adjusting the ppi is the one who makes the file size bigger am I right?
But why does internet says, the file size of an image depends entirely on its pixel dimensions.
while if you increase the ppi, aren't you adding more pixel dimension to the image
it only makes sense, right
what's the point in ppi if it does nothing for your image
any operation that increases or lowers the quality of an image will surely make it smaller or larger
it's a pretty basic concept
So this is wrong??
I try to adjust ppi but the same pixel dimesion but as I save it it still the same file size
that can't be true
they are different, for sure
if you want proof, look at this:
i drew a simple scribble on a 200 ppi document
i then copied it into a 300 ppi document and saved that too
if we compare them, they are internally different
and one of them is a little larger
the offset of the 300 ppi document is increased by 3
from the bottom
as you can see, the one with a higher ppi is indeed larger
as i had suspected
Okayy okayy thank you I am still a bit confused haha
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Hi Iβm new to photo shop does anyone have any good recommendations for a starter tutorial?
Just dm the video or tutorial cuz I have to leave
Iβve watched two or three tutorials for all of them are complicated
I take a break now back after Lunch some time
hi
does anyone have .raw images?
one of these extensions
.3fr,
.ari, .arw,
.bay,
.braw, .crw, .cr2, .cr3,
.cap,
.data, .dcs, .dcr, .dng,
.drf,
.eip, .erf,
.fff,
.gpr,
.iiq,
.k25, .kdc,
.mdc, .mef, .mos, .mrw,
.nef, .nrw,
.obm, .orf,
.pef, .ptx, .pxn,
.r3d, .raf, .raw, .rwl, .rw2, .rwz,
.sr2, .srf, .srw,
.tif,
.x3f
do you need one for practice? I'm sure you can find good ones online
Or just export one yourself
they have to be different at some point since they are different ppi. However, as the difference is only in display pixel to inch ratio, they are (or at least should be) the same size. There is no difference in pixel data. Here is a sample with 2000x2000px image
couldn't find one
and I lost my SD card full of them
oh that's a bummer... I might have some but what exactly do you need?
photo editing
specifically refining
for white balance bloom blur effect
if you have one I can give u a link where u can upload it
but what do you want the photo to be? a portrait, landscape?...
ppi vs file size
Hello, I need help
can anyone help me?
Last time when i wanted my any object to fit on the corner
it was automaticaly doing it
now it got changed
or maybe i changed it from settings i dont remember
and now it's like that
Now i need to move it my self
and i dont like that
pretty sure this is related to View > Snap to
If changing that doesn't work, let is know in #βask-a-question what you're running into
Good afternoon @strong gate and @thorn solar and chat.
hey Kaj π all good?
hello
yes all is good was up in the middle of the night and answer question.
I read @lunar summit question and her big list of RAW formats thats a big jungles of format π€¨ so I found this on Wiki, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_image_format for them how is interested
A camera raw image file contains minimally processed data from the image sensor of either a digital camera, a motion picture film scanner, or other image scanner. Raw files are named so because they are not yet processed and therefore are not ready to be printed or edited with a bitmap graphics editor. Normally, the image is processed by a raw ...
I saw this morning π .. I decided not to dig too deep once I saw that
No! You can ask Lightroom question in #βask-a-question on this server and even Dn Dimension that after PS ver. 22.5 been a way to make editable 3D for PS
probably more something for in #πproject-feedback , but looks very tasty π
Pirog look good
worked on blemishes on skin @stoic bane
this one blends into the photo and you wouldn't know
i see other people just but beauty filter on the whole face lol
well i guess i misinterpreted the question then. nonetheless, i am still correct about how different ppis affect file size, so there's no flaw in my argument π
Please look at my screenshot again. Are you sure you only changed pixel density when changing ppi?
i simply changed the ppi of the document, no questions there
same document size
i don't know how i can explain this to you
slightly
actually
@thorn solar send me those images you have
all 4 of them
You are trying to prove changing ppi affects the file size, right?
Just use any image, just keep the pixel dimensions the same
alright
no problem
it's not like i've already tried this myself and proved it though...
Your proof was 2 byte difference in hex editor
nope
@thorn solar i can't believe your ignorance on this topic
i actually cannot believe it
you think you can say the file sizes are the same when CLEARLY they are different
it doesn't matter if it's by 2 bytes or 10 bytes
they are DIFFERENT
want me to say these words again
louder for you?
maybe i do
Hey I'm sorry, I only try to get the facts. I'm also interested why are you saying those are different
why would i say that to a person asking a question about it who doesn't understand it
it doesn't make sense
sorry if i sounded harsh but
this is the truth
now, i will say this
@thorn solar
the byte difference likely depends on the image content itself
that scribble i drew as not extremely intensive, so the byte difference was around 2-3 bytes
however, with something such as an intricate graphical poster, it should produce a much larger byte difference
Interesting, I'm not that into the code side of graphics, could you say more about this graphical poster? Does it have something to do with compression? After exporting my images with different ppi I checked their properties and windows said they are the exact same byte size, that's why I thought they are the same size
Does anyone here work on color coded kpop arrays?
Since changing the ppi of an image should only change a small piece of data in the file, the file size should remain unchanged or only slightly changed.
The new challenge... is it just masking?
as far as i can tell, the file size always changes no matter what, even if it's only by a few bytes
so here's my general consensus: if you want to approach it from a general perspective, you can say that they do remain the same size and nothing else is changed. however, from a technical perspective, the file data always changes in size internally regardless. @thorn solar
the file size could never remain unchanged internally (in most cases), however externally on an OS, the file size between two images with different ppis will look identical
it does have to do with the compression of bytes because storing a file format as decompressed for no reason is unnecessary
compression helps to reduce the amount of bytes needed to store a file, and a file can then be decompressed by a program when needed
Heyyyy I am new and i started ps today
idk id i am allowed to post pics here....but I did this
welcome to the family, we're excited to answer any questions you might have
not the pic itself but the designing
ye there is a ton thats gonna be heading ur way
you can share that in the #πproject-feedback channel π
and i'm intrigued to see what you have to show!
Good night guys
I disagree. If for example you changed the dpi from 72 (an int that can be expressed in 1 byte) to 300 dpi (which required more) would possibly necessitate a file size change. Changing from 72 to 90 however may not.
But the dpi isn't determined by just one integer within the file data, how could you assume that
That is such an absurd assumption
oh, look at that
you're wrong
i just tested it by comparing a 300 ppi and 301 ppi image containing the same content and they are different in file size
how do you check the file size? through windows properties?
How many integers would you say it takes up?
5-6 bytes more
download HxD and view the files in there
scroll down to the very bottom
and you will see the byte difference
So you think ppi takes 5-6 bytes in teh file?
what does it depend on?
how much you raise the ppi obviously
i don't know how this is hard for you to comprehend
Seems like you are having s difficult time comprehending. How many bytes exactly are used to represent the ppi in the file?
could you possibly be changing the number of pixels in the file when you do this?
could those extra bytes perhaps represent the additional pixels in your new image?
there aren't a single array of bytes that represent the ppi, okay
when you raise the ppi, even by 1, several bytes throughout the file are added, changed, or removed
Yes...the extra pixels perhaps?
do i need to make myself clearer
yes, likely the extra pixels
but the ppi is still a factor
and as a result of changing the ppi, the pixels are affected
so, the ppi is likely held in a very small set of bytes. The "extra data" you are seeing is the change in number of pixels. If you were to edit the file in a way to just change the ppi value you would likely see a new ppi value with no change in file size
How possibly by changing ppi you would get extra pixels?
but why would anyone do that
there's absolutely no point
sure. If I dl an image with a certain ppi value off teh web for example and I want to chaneg it for print
but that really isn't going to do anything significant
yes, it informs whatever you're interfacing with that it's for print, but it doesn't do anything beneficial
it is if the tool I am importing it into reads ppi values
yes, it just informs it
and I place together differnt valued data
but it doesn't do anything for the data in the file
smh
do you need further explanation or do you understand
Photoshop changes the resolution of the image when you change ppi. not all tools operate this way
assuming the ppi data is in the file, then it DOES change the data in the file.
YES, that is what i meant, it changes the resolution and it's for a good reason
at least in photoshop
if you were using a different tool, that's understandable
but what purpose it serves
that's your question to answer
The question is could you change the ppi in a file without changing the size. The answer is "yes"
technically yes, but why would you just change the value
there's no purpose in doing that except for informing another software that it's for print or another type of application
there is no other benefit that you can argue
the resolution change is there for a reason in ps
And that is a desireable benefit in some circumstances
you can't dispute it
okay, if you want to have the same quality image for a larger print size, say
but that serves no benefit to me
that's why upscaling exists, but that's more for photographs
Oh. I did not realize we were limiting this to things that had benefit to you. IN that case, no, I do not know your particular situation.
they're not only things that benefit me
why would anyone want to do that but you
explain
what is the benefit to you
You are importing data that is to be a certain physical size. The image data represents that. It is important for the tool to know the ppi of the image
"I want this box, when imported, to be 1 inch square.
yes, that is true, but the resolution needs to be good enough for it to be exported a certain way
for example
why would you increase the ppi for a 50x50 image, literally does nothing
well, it LITERALLY does...
whereas for a larger image with adequate resolution, changing the resolution does have a slight positive impact
no it doesn't
would you like to reverse engineer image data with me
i can show you
i can PROVE it
it's right there in front of your face and you can't see it
Yes, I'm aware of that and made sure it doesn't happen when I changed the dpi for my own test
It does. If I import an image that is to be a 1 inch square image, because THAT is what it represents, the ppi of the image make a large difference.
yes, the ppi represents the desired print for the image
The ppi informs the customer application how the image is to be rendered.
but if the image is so small it can't be scaled to that print, there's no point
say what you want
i can't assist you with your delusion
If we wish to restrict this to what usage it could have in Pear';s workflow, I have no idea. I do not know Pear's workflow.
@keen cloak stop using the third person
i have tried to be as professional as possible here, but the amount of ignorance of people in regards to the technicalities of file data is absurd
maybe i misinterpreted the question, yes, but what i said before is the truth
I'm pretty new here, but perhaps NOT calling people absurd or ignorant may help with your professionalism.
good point, but it's because of that which causes me to get to this point
i apologize for being difficult, and i will be more considerate of questions in the future
This is what I read as the original question,
#π¬chat-general message
To which my answer is most likely no.
If you disagree that is fine, we can agree to disagree. π
and as for you comment "while if you increase the ppi, aren't you adding more pixel dimension to the image
it only makes sense, right" I also agree.
you can agree that it doesn't change file size if one is utilizing a software program other than Adobe Photoshop, but from my tests I have observed that doing so in Photoshop does change the file size reported by the native operating system, at least on macOS (this may not be the case for Windows)
Yes. I do not know how in Photoshop to change the ppi without changing the pixel dimensions (if it is even possible).
You can do it by using image size function (ctrl+alt+i). Change the ppi and then change the pixel resolution back to what it was since Ps automatically changes it to match the ppi
Well, but that is not the same as just changing the ppi. You are going through 2 resampling phases in what you describe
No, there is no resampling as changing ppi and setting pixel resolution back happens within one Ps function
yes, that is true
If you uncheck resample image in the image size dialog, you cannot change the pixel size
So I beleive it is reasmpling the image twice.
There is no resampling as pixel size stays the same
When you change the ppi setting, does not your pixel dimension values change in the dialog?
Yes, it does and I change it back manually. This way you change only ppi without changing any pixels
I do not think that is true. Try to do what you are stating with "Reasmple Image" unchecked at the bottom.
I'm in bed now but I did it like 10 times today, first to make sure I do it correctly, then to make sure only ppi is affected and then to get samples. I was working on a live psd file that was 2000x2000px. To change only ppi I used image size function. I operated on 72ppi and 300ppi to get real results. I changed the ppi in image size dialog and without applying it I changed pixel dimensions back to 2000x2000px. Then I applied it and exported the file both to png and jpg to see whether compression has anything to do with it. In both cases windows explorer's properties said there is no difference in byte size between 72ppi and 300ppi files
It would surpris eme but I do not knwo how Photoshop works under the hood. A hex editor would determine that definitively
On CS6, I cannot chaneg the pixel size if I have resample image unchecked.
@fast gyro can you post these in #πproject-feedback π fits better
hey lil guy
use a hex editor please
yo does some1 use photo shop if yes can u help me I need help with something
Hey! Is anyone familiar with where I can find fur brushes?
To change ppi?
hi
Hi
No, everyone uses GIMP here π
But you can ask your Photoshop question in #βask-a-question
Try the adobe brush database you can access from Photoshop itself, search for them on google, or make your own
@keen cloak @blissful cargo
Here. I changed the ppi with resampling unchecked and compared the data in HxD. There are 8 different bytes. There is no file size difference
Good afternoon everyone
here is a great place to find brushes then you think that Kyles brushes is enough : https://sv.brusheezy.com/borstar/11433-furborstar-prov
Hmm, I just did the same experiment and got vastly different files and filesizes...strange.
I cannot leave resampling uncheked as I hadnoted before, it makes changing the resolution impossible.
are you sure about that
have you ever used a hex editor before
hence pixel size setting is impossible I set it to percentage and made sure it's 100%. This gave me the same resolution with changed ppi
Yes, I am sure of what I said. I used data comparison function in HxD and using F6 only went through 8 entries
i think you're doing something unusual in the process
...
that's an interesting approach to well stated fact
if you want me to believe you, show me the exact process you followed
and if i can replicate it correctly, then i guess that's the method everyone should be using from now on
otherwise, no point
I described it quite thoroughly if you scroll up
ok let's do it together
get any image and open it in Ps
make sure you can see this
i can thank you
and change ppi to other value
even Ps knows at this point it will not change file size
and, you're wrong
there's a definite file size change
you clearly don't get it
you must not be using hxd correctly
cause i followed your EXACT steps
woah easy we didn't leave ps yet
Whatβs a good starter tutorial for photo shop Iβve watched some but there all complicated
have you tried learn tab in Ps main menu? It's a great start
I do not understand what you are saying. I have only 2 options. I can have Resample Image checked, which allows me to change the Pixel Dimensions (thus letting me change the ppi and still get the same pixel dimensions), OR it is checked and I cannot change the pixel dimensions and thus i get a differn4t set of pixel dimensions when i change the ppi
Nope how do I do that
eh, learn tab is okay
i would recommend checking out PHLEARN
they have some great videos
that's where i started many years ago
press the home icon in top left corner
Ok
still, even setting it to his exact parameters leads to the same thing: a file size change
he's trying to prove something false
I do 3-D modeling for fun and wanted to do photo shop so I use my libraries computers because they provide the whole adobe suit
ah, nice!
by default, when you uncheck resample, setting the image dimensions by pixel is grayed out and forces you to use print metering system like centimeters or inches. However, if you change it to percentage and set to 100% it will not change pixel dimensions. try it
Yea thatβs why I want to learn it
i did exactly that and it caused a file size change
Thatβs why Iβm looking for a good tutorial
i see
well, there are always crash courses, however
i would recommend watching an actual series
Yea
PHLEARN has a great Photoshop for 30 days series
it's free
and quite insightful and in-depth
Whatβs this on?
youtube
trust me, that is the one place to go for some great ps content
Adobe also has their own tutorials
on adobe.com
I got different file sizes...but I mistakenly grabbed a jpg. Let me check with a tiff or some such
though i never watched them much
i tried it with a .png
I'll share my screen in vc
still got same results
png is uncompressed
so there's nothing to hide there
you can't @thorn solar
unless you have privileges
and honestly, there's no point in you doing so
it's quite obvious what the results are
72 ppi
300 ppi
here @blissful cargo those are my files
download those and say if there is a size difference
they are indeed the same size, but you had to have modified the ppi externally
there is no way ps would produce that
ever
I did it in Photoshop...
sure you did
ok...I can confirm with a simple bmp file I made in photoshop, using Wertos method reulted ina file with the exact same size and only one byte changed in the hex editor
sorry I made in paint
I just repeated it here with a bmp.
i opened up one of the images
went to image size
unchecked resampling
set width and height to 100%
made sure the image size remained the same, and the pixel dimensions
changed ppi by 1 from 300 to 301 ppi
loaded it into photoshop, unchecked resample, set to 100% and changed the ppi. Saved the file back out as a 1 bit bmp. same file except for one byte (presumeably a header info that ives ppi)
I think it depends on the file format
well you know what
his method is flawed then
if it only works with particular file formats, what's the point
what a useless proposal
i don't care if you used bmp
You said you picked a png correct?
png uses lossless compression
i have tried several COMMON file formats
yes, i know that
bmp does not
does it look like i haven't analyzed these file formats before
cause i have
i've literally reverse-engineered them
What format did you use Wertos?
probably a redundant format that no one uses
Well, that's a bit silly. the documentation for the format of most is publically available.
it says those images are .png
i didn't mean that
Well, I do it in photoshop, on a psd file and I don't understand why would file compression (which is applied in a entirely different step) affect it
i meant i've looked through these files and understand them fully
:xoksmile:
Because compression compresses the data in the file wertos. Change one byte and you change the entire output
Pear, what drives this style of communication?
what drives it
ok do you want me not to compress it?
the fact that no one listens to what i'm trying to point out
and you can say i'm not listening to you
but i am
What do I have to use? dng? or psb?
But what Wertos is stating does indeed work under certain circumstances.
Yes. As with most things
just immediately defeat his argument
sure
"most things"
what do you define as most things
care to elaborate
the question was whether the ppi affects image size. and the answer is no. no, unless you change pixel dimensions
Yes, most things tend to require a set of circumstances to be deemed true.
it does affect image size
in many circumstances
only the circumstances you showed the file size didn't change
In many cases it does Wertos.
It does in some cases Pear. It's obvious. To claim t does not is absurd.
in what cases?
I literally sent two images with the same pixel size and different ppi and they are the same size
It's not like I'm here for the drama... I want to make it clear and know the answer
Wertos. Load up a jpg. Perform your methos
save it out
see if the file sizes are the same
pretty much any jpg
here I did it
I just downloaded a jpg of a video card. Did the 100% and changed it from 72dpi, to 300dpi. saved it out. Different file sizes.
I'm not saying the data is the same. They are different ppi so the data itself cannot be exactly the same. However, the file size is the same for me no matter what I do π¦
can you send those here?
Try your method on this file.
ok
I think I found your problem:
no "problem". I did as we discussed on photo and saved it back out
this is your 72 ppi image set to difference over you 300 ppi and a solar filter. It is not 100% pitch black so every non-black pixel represents different pixel data
and yet, I did exactly what you specified in photoshop
so there either is a different compression method applied or some other kind of resampling? but you check everything out, right?
ok let me try my way
sure
Don't start with a file alreadyin photoshop and just save it twice
Try this one. It is 96ppi. Change to 300ppi and see what filesize you get
what my file size will be depends entirely on jpeg compression quality. Additionally, compressing a compressed image surely will affect it's size and I believe this is not what the question was about?
I thought the question was if ppi changed did it change filesize
I'd liek to changethe ppi on that file and keep the same filesize
the question was about exporting a ps document and whether higher ppi will make the file bigger
now we are recompressing jpegs
now I see what the problem was. While I was exporting a Ps file with different settings you were reapplying compression. In this case you are absolutely right
Most any file format has the ability to use compression, even if it is lossless.
Therefore any asset you bring into PS even if you do not change the pixel data , you will liekly change the filesize.
If you explicitly save your files without compression and the original asset did not use compression, you can likely just change the few bytes in the header that give the ppi setting
Thus the "under certain circumstances" caveat.
yes, I believe this is exactly what the question was about. Export ppi
but even with export ppi. just changing the ppi CAN change your filesize.
in some cases.
Some file format use compression on the header data as well.
yo can someone come into a voice chat with me and help me out on photoshop briefly?
then you are back to , change one byte, change the whole file. (Pixel data remains the same)
The data remains the same. The bytes that represent them change because the input to the lossless compression algorithm chnages.
Make sense?
yeah, thanks for taking care of him for me
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(sigh)
What could that possibly hope to accomplish?
For his workflow, he can MOST OF THE TIME change his ppi and not change his filesize...
Back to trying to diagnose this poor 3D printer
π€ and here I am just casually shoving my files into TinyJPG and TinyPNG after I exported them
what exactly are you asking? i'm simply responding to the sheer amount of absurdity that has occurred in this chat during the past few days and i'm absolutely over it... there, does that help
need i say more
probably not
can anyone experienced make 4 pctures for me for (Free?) or a bit of money?
pls dm me if u can i need someone
to help me
If by absurdity , you mean true statements
i don't
how dare you claim what @thorn solar said was true for all situations
It's demonstrably so.
Nope. Doing fine with my Masters in Signal processing.
some people never learn
sure you are
maybe you should learn some machine assembly and get back in touch with me when you're actually competent in learning how file data works and how it's read, processed, and written
for now, you nor @thorn solar are good enough
so get off your high horse
I was writing micro-code, likely when you were in diapers LOL.
It seems you do... which is strange
I do. I never claimed not to
you seem to think i know nothing about file data and its internal structures and photoshop processes particular file types
I'm always interested in the truth. In this case, Wertos' workflow allows him to change ppi setting without affecting file size. As I claimed originally, absent compression that includes the header data in files, you can usually do this. I was surprised to find out the method could be achieved in Photoshop as I had not one it in that method previously.
without affecting file size for CERTAIN FILES
I think nothing of the sort.
In his case, he was not even referring to imported files though.
I agree. Not all humans have 5 fingers though.
so what's the point
if it's not 100% effective
gay
just throw it away
if it's not going to work for every file it is a futile method
so say what you want but it's the truth
That's nonsense though. If you have something that works with YOUR workflow, why would you throw it away?
but why would you share it with others
makes no sense
since it's not likely to benefit a majority of users
i would only share methods that benefit most people using ps
not obscure ones that are prone to error
Many memory management techniques used in coding microprocesssors are not universally applicable. They work in some circumstances. Sharing those techniques with others helps them in those circumstances.
not if someone formulates a better technique for managing memory and thread-load distribution
"better"
A good example woudl be a universally applicable technique , does not achieve the optimal memory compression.
that a specific technique applied to the given circumstance does
and still here you are trying to avoid the point and imply that wertos's method should be the adopted one
you seem to advocate for his method
it's interesting
Heck, I remember back in the day we would release code that we knew would bug under certain very cases simply because it was the only way to fit it into 4k.
"should be the adopted one"? You read to much into things.
well then you should've have released it then
we did
no, that is the way engineering works
who were you releasing it to
you release a car you know will get destroyed under certain circumsatnces because no one can afford a $3M vehicle.
it is not the way it should work, that's all i'll say
whatever, assert what you want
i don't buy it
cause you're a pretty bad engineer if you actually did that
Its great we have Indy cars that can slam into a wall at 200mph and the guy gets out and waves to teh crowd, but to think we woudl incorporate that "universally" working solution into everyone's car and sell it for $500k+ would mean very few people owned cars.
Engineering works that way.
I need some help
I'm tying t make the letters like have a background
what do i do?

What do you mean exactly?
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@fast gyro like I said yesterday, post your work in #πproject-feedback or #π‘portfolio-reviews
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i can't imagine living in a world where we release products to customers deliberately that have faulty components just because we're too lazy to test and further develop said products to accommodate for the few rare possiblities
you sure can though
Is there anything more to argue about? Some of us misunderstood the question asked, that's all
It is not a matter of testing, You have the faults profiled before release. You understand them. The consumer to a lesser extent understands that if he drives at 200 mph into a wall, he will not have the same safety profile as an Indy car driver in an Indy car. ff you cannot imagine this, then you cannot imagine the world we live in, or likely the car you are driving.
Most of your electronic devices in your home we know will fail under a high enough EM field. We could harden the electronics to the level we need to for use in space, but we accept the failure rate that can occur because we do not want a $40,000 TV set, etc.
There was not mine or your method. We were simply doing different things. I was exporting the image twice from Photoshop in different ppi when you were changing the ppi and compared it to the existing file. My both files were a fresh export when you were comparing your export to someone else's export
That's why we couldn't agree. We were doing something different
I'd give as word of caution though, even this is not foolproof...exporting twice. So long as you stick to file formats you are familiar with then great. But if you select one of the file formats that apply compression to the file's header even 2 exports can have different file sizes.
The original question was whether the ppi affects exported file size... So I exported a file twice with different ppi and found no size difference. That's all
for certain file types, that is correct
I found it correct for jpg and png
Great. those two evidently do not apply compression to their headers, bmp worked as well
What are you trying to say?
That if you export twice toa file format that uses compression on its header (whhre the ppi info is stored) you can get different fie sizes even exporting an image twice
I see. The question was about exporting for screens and web so I assumed png or jpg will be used for export, that's why I focused on those two
and that is why I was stating to Pear, so long as you understand your workflow, I don't see why you would not use that method to change ppi. I didn't even know you could do it that way in Photoshop.
Hello
Hi
can anyone photoshop my grades
please tell me your kidding
this server is not the place to ask questions like that
Clip the background to the text
Morning everyone π
hello
honestly not a fan of telling people how they can commit fraud @wide yoke
even if joking
the person asking left the server tho
it's always funny how that happens
@wide yoke and @thorn solar sorry that I broke your discussion in the other channel #βask-a-question but this is the right channel to have this discussion.
Good morning everyone!
it is so cloudy and wet here - could be a day to head to a waterfall π€
I haven't even seen the sky today yet.
it was suppose to rain, but so far nothing
- mother nature used sky replacement. It was super effective *
maybe it's a good excuse to test PS sky replacements π€
What's everyone designing today?
@unkempt vector
Basically advertising to buy an account. Don't think that's allowed.
Thanks for letting me know
Hello everyone! From today I'm also in the Discord-chat! πππ
just dropped my fiddling work in #πproject-feedback if you're interested @tropic rapids π
No problem!
Btw why don't I have the community role?
Thanks pal! Maybe I can learn more from ya!
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If you got any questions, feel free to ask them in #βask-a-question and I'll happily help you along π
if you ever got any direct questions about work I've done, you can just dm me
This is something new I'm setting up. There's a bot that's giving everyone the role, but it's going to take another 20 hours or so
I was wondering what that was π
It's a role gate. People will have to agree to the rules before they get access to the full server. It's a way to keep bots out
aah nice one π
also nice I can now confirm I'm not a bot .. always a hard thing to get across to my boss when he piles up some more work for me.
Just use dyno that roles everyone in the server that role in just under a minute.
It's that easy when you've got 10 people in your server. This one has 85 000
Takes a bit longer than that
The bot roled 16k people in 10 seconds
In a server I am moderater in. So I think it won't be a problem here.
And yeah this is a big server. π€£
Well then we got to be patient.
You can delete a role and that would remove it from everyone in 10 seconds. But a bot can't give it to everybody because of API request limits
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im sorry
are there any premium freepik users here
i need help please
i'll pay you
Not sure what you need help with, but I'd contact freepik. They got a support page.
Does someone want to recreate this in photoshop I made this on my phone because Iβm on a long car ride
I just want to see how good someone can make this lookπ
It would look better with less sharpining
Just dm me the final result if you can and if you did itπ
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i've designed a few video thumbnails and a specialized logo template for the anniversary (which is today) of a game called Sackboy A Big Adventure
this is the logo i made specifically for this occasion, though i only had a short amount of time to do it (and thus it's not entirely perfect), and it sure looks quite detailed and intricate!
it's based off the official game logo; the only noticeable differences are that mine doesn't have a curve (as per client request) and the letters don't overlap
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Nice!
hey
can anyone here call? I need help with something that should be simple but im still really new
I just learn better one on one\
sure
hello, if anyone is interested in doing a car wrap photo on photoshop dm me, for a competition, willing to pay
forgot I had a coding assignment due that night
Do the letters look mostly like the same? Is the brightness alright?
This is the original btw
could anyone help me car wrap this photo? Willing to pay
Ask in design offers
yeah, looks fine
Thanks
this looks awesome! π
Good morning
No
Do your homework, study and fix your grades by actually deserving them.
If you have difficulty at school admit it to your teachers and parents and get actual assistance
Maybe time do ban from this server, this is ask someone to forge .
<@&548221840750018590> what do you say about this
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Yeah, just kicked them. There are some super weird people out there
I've had a couple of these types of requests as DMs
it's a bit frustrating at times
but I guess I'm just getting old if this stuff bothers me π
when I was a kid in this time of technology I'd probably think the same, but I'd at least be smart enough to do it myself
@strong gate did Denna kicked Vertos 2
don't know, could be
That was not good hi did a great job
ohw .. wertos π ..
I got confused with the V
I just deleted them to keep it clean π
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Sorry Sir π¦
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hi @low fossil if you can explain what you're stuck on in #βask-a-question someone can maybe help you out on how to progress.
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feel free to ask in #βask-a-question
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