💬chat-general

[dusty lantern]

oh wow thanks

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @misty silo (current: #33 - 59)

[misty silo]

what's that?

[quasi vigil]

it's a photo of a house there's some sand infront of it i wanna remove

can u do it pls pls

[misty silo]

show it

[quasi vigil]

can i send it in dm

[misty silo]

if it's privet yes. if not post it here.

[quasi vigil]

alright check ur dms

[lunar summit]

hello everyone--quick question(im just trying to gauge what people think of this idea), do you think people would pay for an ultra customized wall paper, image or just photo of there name/brand/whatever word they want with a background of their choice with added stuff

like I just made this in the past 10 minutes with a random name

not done with it yet still going to make it look even better but you get the point

[hybrid ice]

yeah i see tons of potential with this, and people will pretty much pay for anything. keep it up

[graceful summit]

No advertising here, please!

[graceful summit]

Hi, no advertising here, please.

[river furnace]

@honest nexus - You can't advertise products or services here. Sorry.

[lunar summit]

hey, thank you so much man. I appreciate it a lot

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @hybrid ice (current: #1008 - 1)

[lunar summit]

are you a mod or something?

[hybrid ice]

of course no worries

i just built a portfolio, im actually a sports designer lol. im trying to expand my work on here because ive heard it can do me some wonders with making money

[lunar summit]

I just checked out that link and all of it is soo cool

like genuinely

[hybrid ice]

thank you so much

only been on photoshop for about 3 months

but i think im gonna stick with this for the rest of my career so im very dedicated

[graceful summit]

Yes, I am one of the Adobe Community Experts fielding this place, helping users, as I’ve done in multiple places for 25+ years…

[hybrid ice]

thank you joe 🫡

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @graceful summit (current: #12 - 273)

[lunar summit]

haha lol but fr that type of work is not easily replicated or done by anybody. like good luck trying to get like any AI to receate those images and plus, I think theres a huge need for very specific and high quality designs. Good luck

[hybrid ice]

thank you 🙏

[river furnace]

Not ultra-customized wallpaper with someone else's intellectual property on it, i.e. Hello Kitty. Perhaps if you used your own IP.

Unless you have licensing deals with various companies to use their characters.

[lunar summit]

I appreciate you trying to keep order to the chat but it was worded in a very specific way--my question that I prosed at the begginning--so that it would not be advertising as I am asking for advice. This chat should be for general questions and thoughts

[lunar summit]

its inherent "a lot of customizablity" suggests and means adding whatever the person is requesting towards the design. Hence the hello kitty and discord ewew kitten thingy. And that is what customizability should be??! What do you mean

[soft remnant]

yo guys where do i ask for help

[misty silo]

if you want to ask questions ask it here:#❓ask-a-question

[soft remnant]

ty

[river furnace]

What I mean is: if you deliberately sell products using other people's intellectual property, like Hello Kitty, you open yourself up to legal issues. You cannot just sell products with other people's IP on it unless you have a licensing deal with the owner(s). Perhaps consult an IP attorney before investing a lot of time and money in a venture like that.

Or maybe I'm confused. You want to "sell wall paper" for a computer screen? Not wall paper that goes on an actual wall...

[lunar summit]

for a display screen,

not for a physical wall paper applied to a wall

[river furnace]

Doing custom images for token amounts of money probably won't get you in legal hot water.

It probably depends on the characters, the owners, the context of the sale. If you're not advertising the service. I hear both Marvel and Nintendo are cracking down on anyone selling products using their IP. For example, stopping independent producers from creating and selling pictures of Spider-man and Mario at Comic Con and similar venues.

[lunar summit]

its only illegal if I say its mine or advertise it came from that brand. I dont think ever it would be against anything in general to use a logo of someone elses

[river furnace]

Wrong.

[lunar summit]

well your passionate about it😭

[lunar summit]

wrong.

im right

[river furnace]

No. You're not allowed to sell other people's IP. Check with an attorney.

Whether you get sued or not is another issue. Its still not legal.

[chilly kernel]

well some people need the hard way to learn 😄

[river furnace]

I checked and its not a full moon today but it sure feels like it. :D

[chilly kernel]

no howling..

..yet

[river furnace]

People come here, ask for advice and opinions and then don't like the opinions they get.

[warped sierra]

HEY GUYS I NEED ANYONES HELP IF ANYONE IS GOOD AT PHOTOSHOP

[chilly kernel]

well not everyone lives in their bubble

[warped sierra]

CAN I PLEASE DM YOU?

its urgent

can any1 help me I need hepl with a photo

[chilly kernel]

why on earth would you try to ping everyone?

[warped sierra]

sorry

but its urgent

[serene marsh]

Yeahh what is it??

[warped sierra]

CAN i dm you?

plesae

[serene marsh]

Yeahh u can

[warped sierra]

added

you

[chilly kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-finally-a-worthy-opponent-our-battle-will-be-legendary-battle-fight-gif-24829111

i got that feeling

[river furnace]

I should be doing something more constructive with my day off. heh

Maybe I'll make some Mario-derivative images and try to sell them on Etsy. Hopefully, Nintendo won't have a problem with that since I'm not claiming that I own it. :)

[river furnace]

I'd love to do something with this idea but I'm violating like 20 different IPs here. haha

[chilly kernel]

well if you want to some lawyers go full Nintendo on you then do it 😄

[river furnace]

I couldn't decide whether it should be Minom or Venion or, I dunno...

[chilly kernel]

both work

Sony will love whichever you will pick 😏

[river furnace]

Especially since they love paying Marvel to use the Spidey-world stuff.

[chilly kernel]

split the bill CEO will love you when he will have a raise 😏

bit offtopic but this might be helpful
https://fixupx.com/discord/status/1958224209122914717

Discord (@discord)

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FixupX · Aug 20, 2025, 5:46 PM

[river furnace]

You still have to pay extra to get the tags though, right?

Multiple "boosts" at 30 bucks each or something?

[chilly kernel]

no

if you're on server that support it you can use it

[chilly kernel]

Admin can activate it for PS server

[graceful summit]

It was very borderline, but unfortunately the next message was advertising for services… did the other poster see yours and thought, let’s go further? I don’t know.

[river furnace]

They left the server.

@marsh flame - You can't advertise here. Sorry.

[marsh flame]

ok

not in this channel

[river furnace]

Not in the server, at all.

We don't allow it because it would be an all-day spamfest of people constantly posting that. Sorry.

[marsh flame]

ok

[graceful summit]

It’s quite a day with the adverts… courage!

[hybrid ice]

what the thats so cool

[river furnace]

Thanks! Just where my mind takes me sometimes. You're sitting around thinking "What would happen if Venom attached itself to a Minion?" And you get stuff like that. :)

[gray moss]

not very active in project feedback 🥲

[inner hemlock]

Anyone else use Beta and happen to not be able to sift through blend modes anymore with the arrows after the last update?

[inner nexus]

Need a moderator to report someone who tried to complete an illegal NSFW request, he might do it again here
Please reach my DMs, they are open, I will explain it further gladly

[steel plank]

You are funny

D human it's me

I rejected the offer

[river furnace]

What's up? They tried to make a request?

[steel plank]

And he claims I did it

[steel plank]

Someone make an illegal request on his server

[inner nexus]

All the proof in DMs I kept screenshots

[steel plank]

And I replied the person to dm and told him to delete that request that it's illegal

[inner nexus]

You reach his DMs, as he stated he wanted someone to edited someone's clothes out

You asked for money for this request, you exactly told me this

[steel plank]

And even chased him from my DM with cool words cus I know people like that... They can start spamming the server because their request is not completed and they banned

[inner nexus]

At the end of course, when the "client" didn't want to pay

[steel plank]

So this man claims I completed his request even when I showed him proof of chat

[inner nexus]

I didn't say you completed it

and it was not the point

[steel plank]

I won't drag words with you bro kelleck.. you don't listen I know you too well... I will stop here sir DHuman

[inner nexus]

Yeah please stop here, let me handle this

Can I send you the screenshots D. Humann?

[river furnace]

Seems like some beef between people who do freelance. Please don't bring this issue into this server.

[steel plank]

Yes send him

[steel plank]

Thank you

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @river furnace (current: #2 - 3074)

[inner nexus]

The thing is, he might do again illegal requests if he has the occasion

[steel plank]

Hey bro I don't do them

I showed you proof

[river furnace]

What's illegal mean?

[inner nexus]

Removing clothes on someone's picture without a consent

[steel plank]

The guy sent a pic with an illegal request

He thought I am the one that do illegal stuffs but facing the guy helps stop it in silence... Alot of people dont talk in server whereas they are the bad ones

I was at fault tho

[inner nexus]

You literally asked him to reach your DMs

[steel plank]

But bro ban me and kicked me out

[steel plank]

Yes to correct him...

And let it look very difficult so he won't ask anyone else

[inner nexus]

And to ask money for the job? suuuuure

[steel plank]

Always listen to people

Don't conclude in your mind again

It's okay don't complicate the server

[river furnace]

So let me get this straght... Some person in some other server asked someone else to remove the clothes from some other person's photo? So like, what? Do a head swap onto some porn star's body or whatever? Come on, people.

[steel plank]

Noo that the pic should be done illegally... Let's just stop there.. it's totally illegal sir

[inner nexus]

Replace the clothes with sexual anatomy parts, and Success4Both asked the client to reach his DMs, and asked an amount of money for the job

I have screenshots

[steel plank]

So it was expected to be stopped gently.. people like that do a lot to servers

But bro kelleck won't listen to you at all

Even after telling him the truth

[inner nexus]

Define truth

[steel plank]

It's okay bro I won't drag anything with you

[inner nexus]

Cause you don't seem to master the concept

[steel plank]

Sir please tell him to stop at least he have banned me and kicked me .. so what else do you want

After showing you proof of truth

[inner nexus]

To keep a sane safe working shared place

[steel plank]

It's okay bro... And this is not your server... They listen carefully to audience here

[inner nexus]

And ethical, when possible, as far as you are concerned

Sorry D. Humann I wanted to make things simple

[steel plank]

Wow 👏

[river furnace]

Meh. I've heard enough. Just drop it.

[inner nexus]

Sure, let him do another illegal requests then

[steel plank]

Thanks sir 🫡

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @river furnace (current: #2 - 3075)

[steel plank]

Can you imagine his mindset 🤔

[inner nexus]

You literally sent me "F YOU" and blocked me at the end
How mature
And you lecture me about mindset when I want to bring a safe working atmosphere and safe picture representation for everyone?

[steel plank]

Sure I was angry at your mindset even after telling you truth and proof

[inner nexus]

You manipulate truth at your advantage

and you know it
and you won't acknowledge it

[steel plank]

Please stop 🛑

DHuman said stop

[inner nexus]

Of course... it suits you after all

[river furnace]

First of all, what people do in other servers or private DMs or whatever has nothing to do with the Photoshop Discord. We do not, cannot monitor people in other servers, or private messages, etc. If some user in this server is harassing other members of this community, we'll step in. Of course. But this isn't Photoshop CSI. We don't do forensic investigations of chat messages.

[inner nexus]

Great, so just wait for him to do it again

It won't be long

Thank you for your time D.Humann, and sorry the conversation had to take such a way

[river furnace]

With all due respect... I'm not sure what you're expecting us to do. You want us to ban people based on some incident that you claim occurred? If someone is doing something "illegal" like DOX-ing people, posting fraudulent imagery with the intent to harm, you should contact Discord Staff. Not us.

[steel plank]

CAN you just stop typing

[inner nexus]

I'm not asking anyone to ban people
You know that screenshots can be edited, even mine as a photoshopper so you can't just swing the hammer blindly
I'm just telling this so that you can overwatch and monitor next suspiscious events to come, especially concerning him

[steel plank]

See your mindset... That's what you do

[inner nexus]

As I did in the very same way concerning Mr Perfecto, in the last DM I sent you D. Humann

[river furnace]

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. If the person steps out of line here, we'll deal with it.

[inner nexus]

Did I ask someone to ban anyone tho ? Stop manipulating the truth again

[inner nexus]

Great, that's just what I wanted to do here originally

[steel plank]

Are you good now??? Goodnight sleep well now

[inner nexus]

Stop the taunt, it ain't going to bring you anywhere

Also you just told me to go F myself in DMs, I don't think it's like allowed on **this **server
Be careful it could be perceived as harassment

[river furnace]

I'd suggest that you both just go your separate ways and stop replying.

[inner nexus]

Yep sorry for the flood here, even tho I would have rather wanted to inform you by DMs just like I did last time

Have a nice day !

[river furnace]

So you're saying, you don't think Nintendo or Marvel will go for my "Weapon M" concept? heh

[hybrid ice]

thoughts? only been using photoshop for a few months so dont go too harsh on me 🙏

[river furnace]

Looks pretty good. I would work on the shadows under the people.

[hybrid ice]

yeah that was my first time woroking with shadows and it was tricky for me

[gray moss]

just finished 🙏

[hybrid ice]

any tips?

[river furnace]

So I'm confused about the cheese. Is that because cheese is a slang term for money and you've got the gold coins there? Or was it just a color matching issue?

[river furnace]

The perspective is a bit "off" - the angle of the road doesn't really match the people. You could try to paint some shadows under the feet to make them look more connected to the ground. If the sun was shining on them from that angle, they would probably be darker and a shadow would be cast toward the viewer. I would move the sign back over to the shoulder of the road where it belongs; it looks a bit weird in the pavement there.

[dull moss]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-fat-gif-18910543

CHeese

Is a topping

An Excellent topping for pizza

But i dare argue

[hybrid ice]

alright thank you so much, really glad i found this server because im new to photoshop, only been on it for about 4 months lol. getting good honest feedback makes my work stronger so thank you

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @river furnace (current: #2 - 3076)

[dull moss]

🧇 🖖 🧀

CHeese can be used not only as a topping for waffles

But CHeesy waffles as well

Truly PEAK PEAK PEAK!

*Ignores the trainwreck from earlier

[gray moss]

had no ideas so I just added coins

since it's similar color

[graceful summit]

As a Belgian, I cannot endorse nor condone this. Call it a woast or a toasffle but not a waffle. 😉

[graceful summit]

Yes, watch where the sun comes from and the lights casted on the subjects. Can you find another pic with the sun coming from the side? Also move the bear post so that it is not placed on the road. Courage you are doing good in the implementation of a mood, just remember to start from the very basics (light direction, perspective)

[lunar summit]

could someone edit a person out in a photo of mine? i can pay

[dull moss]

https://tenor.com/view/waffle-high-school-flag-belgium-anime-girls-und-panzer-gif-12024463581475678378

A Waffle Kerfuffle

[serene marsh]

Dm me

[river furnace]

@sharp lintel - you can't advertise here. Sorry.

[restive spindle]

Hello @graceful summit So I have finally went through that article about Color Profiles in Adobe Photoshop, The topic of that article is mainly about how and why to choose the Adobe RGB Color Profile as it has wider gamut. The page also shows and explains where to change the Working Color Profiles and Color Management Policies for Images opened without tjheir assigned profiles.... All I do understand, but I do not understand if I do have the Working Space set as defualt as sRGB, why do I see "Untagged RGB"? in bottom left info bar in Photoshop and also in the RGB/8# that hashtag simbol which asyou wrote me means that the document does not have assigned color profile. Please if you can tell me about this.

I have read something about Assigning Color Profiles to unassigned document, I would assume that every new document has its color profile assigned automatically

[graceful summit]

And the way you had it setup, it does not warn you if the doc you open is untagged.

[graceful summit]

Simply because when you created or opened that document it was set to not have a profile… check the advanced section: for the old version: https://www.photoshopessentials.com/basics/legacy-new-document-dialog-box-photoshop-cc/

or the advanced section in the current version (scroll down a lot): https://www.photoshopessentials.com/basics/create-new-documents-photoshop-cc/

[restive spindle]

I will go trough those articles for sure, thank you but can you explain me the benefits of having the document assigned with some profile? I would assume that it all is in the same color profile I have the Photoshop set into.

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @graceful summit (current: #12 - 275)

[graceful summit]

No, unless it is set to automatically assign the working space, when there is no assigned profile, ps will open/create a file the way it is told to do. If the new doc is set to profile, it will respect that.

The point of color profiles is easy to explain. If I say “red” you might think invocation cola red, or your neighbor might think bricks red, because they play tennis. The idea of profiles and color space deals with the limited or difference of color gamuts, that some devices can have. Some might reproduce way more different and brighter colors than others. Hence the need to deal with set or known values, like sRGB : think of it as an universal language, maybe less nuanced that others, but that most understand

[analog oak]

Check your dm

[ruby jackal]

#💬chat-general message

[hard mortar]

Yup tell me
In dm

[river furnace]

Cool! It takes time and dedication (i.e. practice) but you'll improve as you complete more projects. Keep at it.

One other thing about your layout... I might consider adding like "The road to victory" or something like that to tie it together. Otherwise, I'm not really sure why the team is standing in the middle of the road. :)

[restive spindle]

Photoshop in the default settings does not assign the new document with color profile, the Photoshop itself has the Color Profile set up as default so I would assume all good 🙂

[onyx prawn]

@rugged olive - you can't advertise here. Sorry.

[graceful summit]

It all depends if you are sharing images online >sRGB, (or p3 for Apple ecosystem) or printing them high-end desktop photo printer >proPhotoRGB, 16 bits , etc.

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[onyx prawn]

Thanks!

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @graceful summit (current: #12 - 276)

[graceful summit]

That was quick, thanks!

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @onyx prawn (current: #8 - 888)

[low pier]

Yo just dived in

[inner hemlock]

Isn't it kind of odd that large websites such as Etsy or Behance have to have a thumbnail a specific size and if it isn't the size requested some part's get cropped out?

[tender stream]

Hi

[river furnace]

Not really that odd. They have to make sure what you've uploaded fits into their template. To maintain consistency across the app. Most web apps do that. YouTube, Twitter/X, Facebook, all have specific size requirements for their headers and whatnot.

[inner hemlock]

@river furnace My experience is many things I post it's not the proper ratio for thumbnails so when it's resized using one of the pixel dimensions requested (height for ex.) and the other dimension (w) automatically proportionally resizes, it would be nice to be able to zoom out and get the full picture instead of it getting cut out. But what software do you use for screen recording?

[river furnace]

I use Snagit from TechSmith.

[rare rivet]

whats the best/fastest way to import all of my brushes.gradients,fonts etc

[river furnace]

Drag and drop into the open Panels

[rare rivet]

is it okay if i dm you and ask some questions

[river furnace]

Sorry. No. I'm tapping out. Use #❓ask-a-question. If someone knows the answers, they will probably reply.

[rare rivet]

okay np

[graceful summit]

No DMs so that the info is then available for everyone!

[graceful summit]

Hi, fonts are managed at the OS level, or if Adobe fonts they should sync as you login. For the rest take a look at https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/presets.html

[still anvil]

Howdy

[serene marsh]

Heyy?

[lunar summit]

Hallo

Can you erase all the text from this image?

[hard mortar]

Yup I had DM me

[onyx prawn]

Like this?

[lunar summit]

Oh!!Thankyou

[onyx prawn]

No problem... It was an easy one 😉

[lunar summit]

But what should I do? I don't have the money to pay right now.

[onyx prawn]

No money! That's OK... I made it just for fun.

[graceful summit]

It might help to state everything in the first message 😉

[lunar summit]

Ok

[chilly kernel]

Ask question here or in #❓ask-a-question and people will try to help you without asking for money unless it’s something shady like forgery etc

[lunar summit]

No, it's okay now because I found someone I can rely on.

[chilly kernel]

Ok

[graceful summit]

But do ask your question, someone else might jump on the case!

[lunar summit]

It's okay because I've already done it

[rose hawk]

hey, can someone help me in ps? dm me!

[river furnace]

@inner hemlock your GIF animation in the ps-gallery is hanging/crashing Discord mobile. You're gonna have to remove that.

[chilly kernel]

Weird it’s working on my phone

[misty silo]

no lag? I can also see it. but my phone is lagging while scrolling

[chilly kernel]

Everything is working as it should

[river furnace]

Crashing my app.

If it does respond, it fails to load.

[chilly kernel]

Maybe it’s your cache as discord love to keep everything locally

🤔

I offload this crap every week 😂

[river furnace]

Its the size of GIF. Not the size of the cache on my phone.

[river furnace]

Also, if this GIF is what you were referring to yesterday, most platforms aren't going to allow you to use an animated GIF for a banner.

[analog oak]

Check your dm

[onyx prawn]

I confirm that Behance doesn't handle animated gif for banners (and project thumbnails)...

[earnest ledge]

hello there Moderator
@river furnace
could you please explain me why photoshop server bannad Rojr david ?

do you know about Rojr david?

[river furnace]

Stop spamming the server with this.

People who are only here to exploit the community are often removed. Happens a lot with people who exhibit shady behavior, don't follow directions from staff, etc.

[earnest ledge]

i apologize but could you please explain some thing

[river furnace]

No. I cannot.

If this is your only reason for being here, then we can stop right now.

[earnest ledge]

ok ok relex please

[river furnace]

I'm relexed. heh

"Jenifer Lorince"

[inner hemlock]

I deleted it, thanks for letting me know. And no I meant when I create/upload an image and need to resize that image for a thumbnail, some part inevitably get's cut out specifically in Behance and Etsy because my image isn't a perfect square, or whatever ratio the thumbnail is. Like frequently I just want to hit a zoom out that isn't there. But separately that very banner I exported an image of it for a placeholder and it got cut out and that both started and was exported in the exact dimensions requested.

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @river furnace (current: #2 - 3083)

[river furnace]

Yeah. I understand on Behance. I often have to make images at a specific aspect ratio when I post projects there. I don't know about Etsy because I don't use that site but I'm sure they all have similar restrictions. They want everyone's images to fit inside whatever server-side, dynamic template they use to create their web pages.

[remote wave]

I got a really mini job I need done, should take maybe around 10 minutes
I have a png of a line graph i need remade, I just want it looking slightly cleaner and no bg
If you want to do it go for it and feel free to add it to your portfolio later

[river furnace]

You can still post that in the gallery. Just please post a thumbnail and then post the GIF inside so that it doesn't crash the mobile app or lag the scrolling of the gallery thumbnails. (Speaking of thumbnail images...) heh

[inner hemlock]

I generated a picture of a thumbnail with an old nail sticking out of it and the pictures of a thumb with an older, crusty, blackened thumbnail sticking out of the nail are next level horror

[west stirrup]

can anyone rotate picture in the midle please?

[serene marsh]

I can help you

[hard mortar]

Yup I am help you tell me more details in dm

[nimble lance]

Any suggestions to servers where i can request others to edit my image? I am guessing this server is more for learning editing rather than requesting

[shadow dew]

Need help photoshopping. Need someone who can replicate font/color/ format/spacing perfectly 1;1. Must have incredible attention to detail. Can pay well DM me

[hard mortar]

Yup tell I help you

DM me

[lunar summit]

thank you sm

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @flint sail (current: #14 - 219)

[marsh flame]

Hello can someone help me

[river furnace]

They waited all of 3 mins for a response? heh

[ruby jackal]

#💬chat-general message

[ruby jackal]

There is a specific Reddit called r/photoshoprequests (from memory) that does only that.
You can request here, but we don't encourage it as people are routinely harrassed by others in DMs.
You can still ask here, but be warrned that it's your own responsability to protect yourself
#💬chat-general message

[serene marsh]

Hey i can edit your images

[subtle hollow]

@last oar Have a look at your DM!!

[ruby jackal]

#💬chat-general message

Mass tags don't work in this server
(it annoys everyone anyway!)

[fast relic]

I am a Turk. I am having disk problems while using Photoshop. I only have C disk as disk and the disk is half full. I am still having problems. Could you please help me?
When you reply, give a reply so that I understand that you are replying to me.

[onyx prawn]

Could you be less vague? What type of disk problem do you have? Any error message or pop up window to share with us? This could help us understand what is happening...

[fast relic]

It keeps saying the clipboard was not imported because the scratch disk is full

[misty silo]

Make sure your not working on a super big size canvas. For example: 60000 pixels, 80000 pixels.
And what's your c drive size in GB/TB?

When you work on something in Photoshop, it temporarily uses space on a drive that you choose in Preferences (by default, it uses the c drive). The amount of space required depends on the project you’re working on.

You have two options: either free up some disk space, or work with a smaller canvas size.

[onyx prawn]

To add what @misty silo said I just want to point that temp file size created by Photoshop can quickly become huge if you keep lot of Brushes loaded in it (it could be the case for patterns and layer styles too but sizes of these items are way smaller than hi-res brushes).
For exemple Running Photoshop (no file open) with only General brushes loaded => Create a temp file of 800Mb.
Running it with all my regular bushes' sets (+/- 1 Gb) => Create a 10GB temp file.
So if you create a file, add lot of images and layers size can increase really quickly...

[river furnace]

Could just be the canvas is too large because they chose the wrong units upon creation. 2000 pixels, OK. 2000 centimeters... Probably not ok. Unless you have a lot of RAM.

[serene marsh]

hey

[fast gazelle]

hello

[low pier]

Helo

[serene marsh]

heyyy!1

[serene marsh]

hey?

[low pier]

Hey

[fast gazelle]

how are you doing boy!

[low pier]

Sup?

[low pier]

Idk

[serene marsh]

good what abt u?

[fast gazelle]

i am perfect

are you a designer or something?

[low pier]

I am

[fast gazelle]

nice 👍

[low pier]

I can do graphics for u

[fast gazelle]

bro i am also a designer 😑

can i see some of your works?

[low pier]

Everyones disigner here we cant find costumers

[fast gazelle]

true but i have 🙂

[low pier]

U cant rn i aint got my laptop rn my brother took it for some time

[fast gazelle]

oo

okay

[chilly kernel]

Lots of competitors here 🤣

[fast gazelle]

this is only true if you are not a good designer

[chilly kernel]

Luckily i dont have to look for customers on discord 😏

[low pier]

Y

[low pier]

I ve seen everyones helping here

[chilly kernel]

Well it’s photoshop server so yeah we try to help each other

[fast gazelle]

@chilly kernel can i see your works ?

just curious 🙂

[chilly kernel]

Not designer so I don’t have portfolio per se

Helped few peoples here in my spare time

[fast gazelle]

but you know some about photoshop right?

[chilly kernel]

Enough for my needs

[fast gazelle]

then you have some editing or something

[chilly kernel]

Yeah if you will search this sercer you can find some

[fast gazelle]

where should i search?

?

?

[chilly kernel]

Discord has search tab

Just put my nickname add search for images

[feral belfry]

hello

[fast gazelle]

i didn't found anything

[chilly kernel]

Im mostly helping here there’s should be few images, but as i said I don’t have to show my work as I don’t look for jobs

[river furnace]

A lizard wizard? lol 😅

[feral belfry]

yes it's a reference to king gizzard and lizard wizard

[river furnace]

I don't know what that is but it sounds cool. :)

I can Google it.

In the meantime, this is what I was thinking. :D

[feral belfry]

it's a really good band

[feral belfry]

not that far off

they do a lot of stuff from metal to jazz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntbNRUycbD4

[river furnace]

Recent video I saw on YouTube:
"This will replace Photoshop... And it's FREE!" Except that you can't actually use Nano Banana, nor does it have any of the features that Photoshop has but... Sure, this will replace Photoshop.

Bravo for the clickbait title and thumbnail. Not to mention the complete and utter misunderstanding of what Photoshop is and does. [slow clap]

While I like the potential that AI tools provide, the AI community is thick with unscrupulous idiots totally honest people.

I feel bad even talking about this because this person deserves no publicity for this video but people need to start calling out the stupidity. :D

[misty silo]

I don't think it's even software, is it?

[river furnace]

It's an AI model that you can't even use. You can only "get lucky" if LMArena happens to render your image using it.

I saw another idiotic thumbnail for a Nano Banana video and the title said: "I'm deleting Photoshop." - lol

[misty silo]

That guy was probably drunk. doesn't know what's what, lol. They really need to know there's something called categories.

[river furnace]

I'm just so sick of these videos... "Photoshop is dead" and then they proceed to show some AI model that has one feature. An input box where you type: "replace the man with a giraffe" - and then the [totally honest person] hosting the video is like: "SEE! Photoshop is so dead!" lol

Yeah. More like... "Here is the crap image that AI provided and now let's take it over to Photoshop and fix it."

[misty silo]

It's just clickbait they know it too. I didn't saw any software that have as much features as Photoshop.

[inner hemlock]

lol I feel ya. The first 2 times like a year ago they got my curiosity but my recommendations are still saturated with those despite me not even clicking anymore.

[river furnace]

I love the clickbait: "I'm deleting Photoshop." and I'm sitting here thinking, "What difference does it make? It was a pirated copy of 2017 and you probably didn't know how use it anyways."

[river furnace]

I'm gonna do a new video... "AI Tech Bros are done."

Me: "Yep. That's right. I'm deleting my subscription and keeping Photoshop! Why? Because skills trump typing stuff into a text box and hoping for a miracle! This one button replaces the incessant yammering with sweet silence."

[inner hemlock]

lol

[mellow merlin]

ai is nowadays very identifiable

[river furnace]

That's not the point at all.

[mellow merlin]

i get u

[river furnace]

This isn't an "anti-A.I." rant.

Its anti-AI-influencer rant. heh

Sick of these people and their clickbait videos talking about how they're going to get rid of creative software and creative people and replace it with "typing things into a text box." Apparently, blithely unaware that everything they're saying is utter idiocy.

And if they are aware, then its deliberate and that's almsot worse. heh

[inner hemlock]

To fit in with the crowd:

[mellow merlin]

One thing I don’t like about AI generated artwork is that people often assume my works are AI generated, when most of them arent.....i cant find a way out of it

[inner hemlock]

9 videos out of the 10 included with the Udemy thumbnail course were about how wide open the subjects mouth should be

[river furnace]

Kind of a goofy statement. You don't like AI generated images because people assume things about your images. I got news for you... People assume all kinds of things that you can't control. But I think I understand what you meant.

In my opinion, there is nothing inherently wrong with using AI generated content in work you create. But you have to be an active participant in the work. Not just hit the generate button, post it on Instagram and call it "my artwork." You gotta have some skin in the game.

Before there were AI-generated pixels, we used all sorts of miscellaneous assets to make image comps. Some we created ourselves. Some of it was stock (graphics and photos), i.e. things that we didn't create. Its the same story now. Pixels made by an AI model are just another resource to pull from.

[river furnace]

Not sure what it is about the "constant surprised" look that everyone has in thumbnails. Maybe it coincides with the raise in all of the Botox people are getting these days. :D

[river furnace]

@inner hemlock - you play a lot of games, eh?

[inner hemlock]

Yeah, I go through hardcore gaming phases.

[river furnace]

Do you play on the PC or on a console?

[inner hemlock]

PC, but with a controller.

[river furnace]

That was my next question. Kb or controller. heh

[inner hemlock]

I finally got GRIS, it's pretty sweet

[river furnace]

Oh yeah. GRIS. Pretty trippy. Nice visuals and music in there.

[river furnace]

I'm trying to code this cheesey little game and had some questions.

[sturdy heart]

Haloo everyone

[river furnace]

I saw your question #🙏🏼challenges-questions - That is for Creative Challenges. If you're drawing with the Pen Tool in "Path Mode" there is only a path. Check the top bar Options. Switch to Shape mode and then you can apply a Fill and Stroke to it.

In the future, post to #❓ask-a-question for specific Photoshop questions.

[sturdy heart]

Ohh I see! Sorry I didn't see thatt

[spark jackal]

Hello

I want to ask where can I find some client I have a amazing portfolio and I want to earn some money through my skills

[ruby jackal]

You can advertise your services on Freelancing platforms like Behance, Upwork, or PPH.
You open an account, upload your portfolio (or create Behnace projects in the case of Behance) and search through jobs posted on the platforms for something that fits your skills

You can also advertise your services on LinkedIn, it also have a portfolio section (called samples if I remember well)

Then, the ususal: Get a proper website, and email people, either locally or further afield with your portfolio. If you look for freelance work, LinkedIn is also a valuable platform as people advertise projects there

[spark jackal]

i have my portfolio currenty and behnace i just want to know where to upload ut

[ruby jackal]

It's a long and winding road and it's all a question of portfolio and reputation (trust does wonder: Reliability, knowledge, etc...)

[ruby jackal]

If you're talking about freelnace platforms you can't upload your portfolio, you'll have to build something withing their framework. It's easy

[spark jackal]

like gig for fiverr and things?

[ruby jackal]

If you already have a Behnace account, you can start there: Nothing to upload...
Fiverr is a mess, it has a very bad reputation. Just saying.

[spark jackal]

my skill are related to photoshop and graphics designing

[ruby jackal]

https://www.behance.net/joblist?tracking_source=nav20
If you want to find perm employment instead of freelance, then LinkedIn is there it happens (Also Indeed etc)

[spark jackal]

i first thought of doing frelancin g on fiverr

[ruby jackal]

The thing is you have to show your links everywhere. People need to be able to find you just by clickng on a button. For example, When I search for people on LinkedIn, I'm astonished of the amount of people who have a website and don't list it on LinkedIn. Don't make recuiters think. Make it easy for them

[spark jackal]

got no customers

[ruby jackal]

See how Fiverr is rated, not good

Other platforms, you need to search for jobs and create a proposal for the jobs you want to apply to. Not let people contact you.

[spark jackal]

so where can i customers should i just cold message everyone

[ruby jackal]

So it's a pro-active search

[ruby jackal]

The way I do it personally, I contact agencies (in my case photo production agencies) to tell them I can work on their projects on a freelance basis

I find them using LinkedIn, it takes quite a lot of time because you have to research agencies, and make sure they align with the kind of work you can help with.

[spark jackal]

thanks for you're kind replies z_aww thanks

[ruby jackal]

Some people have luck with social media platforms like Instagram or Facebook. I never did. So you need to try things and see what works best for you. You need to track your results. Also read about basic marketing techniques etc...

One important thing, is if you ever find a successful person who does the same job as you, check what they are doing and try to replicate it: The quality of their images, the tone of their posts on SM, how they are rated by others. Do not copy them word for word, try to make it your own, and see what works for you.

[spark jackal]

yes!!

[ruby jackal]

My last word: Don't ever compete on price alone. You'll always find someone cheaper than you and soon enough, you'll find yourself with clients, but you will be working for nothing.
Freelancing is a business. Think like a business person: Track your costs (Software subscriptions, internet costs, marketing costs) and make sure you earn enough to eat, house yourself, pay those operating costs and set aside for taxes. That's the absolute minimum.
The major hurdle people who start from scratch is to try to atttract clients on their first project with very low prices, in the hope they will raise their rates when they have some clients and some good feedback under their belt.
Instead what happens is that you will be known as the cheap guy, you will only attract cheap clients. And we all know that in addition of not paying much, cheap clients are the more obnoxious ones, making your freelancer life a hell with endless revisions and crazy deadlines. They are also prone to not paying you at all.

[spark jackal]

you'll make me cry cryingcat

[ruby jackal]

You're welcome. It's so common is sobbering.

There is also a dedicated discord server for career advancement. Bear with me, I'll get you a link

https://discord.com/invite/acc

[spark jackal]

yes sir cryingcat

[ruby jackal]

Not a sir 🙂

[spark jackal]

yes ma'am z_aww

[ruby jackal]

Don't assume people at the other end (clients, agencies owners etc) are men. You will be sure to get rejected 🙂

But no worries, I am used to it now 🙂

[spark jackal]

no i used sir as you know , in (yes sir ) tone

[mellow merlin]

Imagine you create something entirely from scratch.... I hope you know about photo manipulation uh its a form of art in the digital arts category.... Everything in it is literally made by you, yet people just assume its completely AI. Its the same as a bodybuilder whos natural but gets accused of using steroids.

[ruby jackal]

Yes, but it depends where people are from, some places don't understand that nuance

[spark jackal]

i know from you're name you are female

[spark jackal]

sorry

[ruby jackal]

No need to be sorry, that's OK

You can check people's profile and make up your mind from that. It's not necsseraily obvious, particularly if people have names you are not familiar with. That's why research is important... When I email agencies, I always check the person I'm emailing so I address them with their name without a typo (I'm a big typo person 🙂 ) . Also helps if you can find a common ground to start the conversation with.

[mellow merlin]

Theres nothing wrong, of course....I use AI too, like for correcting my English. Even you use it as well. It’s never a problem when its used as a tool to help you create something. But having half of the artwork made by AI, then just adding a random tree to the image and claiming its your own work,thats just........ not cool.

[spark jackal]

i actually like how you are trying to help others even tho its my first time on this server (being a typo person is not a bad thing)

[mellow merlin]

yesssir is kinda like a meme type stuff

[ruby jackal]

The saying goes : "people hire people", one of they key for good business is to be someone others trust and know are dependable. Good clients will pay more to someone who understand their needs and deliver good work. Bad clients won't, but nobody needs bad clients anyway.

[mellow merlin]

no matter who youre saying to

[ruby jackal]

It was in tone with the rest of the conversation. Being professional 🙂

[mellow merlin]

He put a space between the yes and sir which kinda changes tone ik

[ruby jackal]

Not all clients are versed in meme talk. I certainly am not.
I know we're on Discord, but it goes with the flow of the conversation

[mellow merlin]

😝 and since we are on discord we meet people who are used to speaking casually (discord type), some are just too...... seriously professional

[ruby jackal]

Not every one here is a 17 years old gamer. Read the room 🙂

I promise I'm a fun person in my down time!

[mellow merlin]

Wait are you telling im a 17 years old gamer?

[ruby jackal]

No, since not everyone is 🙂

And it would have made you start at 5 years old according to your profile!
I'm joking!

[mellow merlin]

😭 No, well im 17, but not a gamer, im just a photoshop enthusiast

[mellow merlin]

well i dont have that much experience

just 5 years

[mellow merlin]

ik

i know

[ruby jackal]

This can be changed yk?

[mellow merlin]

yea but clients look for 10-12 years, but i dont think that matters, ive got enough knowledge to handle all works

and i was successul in all my previous ones

just didnt earn from it

[ruby jackal]

I'm teasing you here. I'm just being cheeky 🙂
anyhow, I need to go, life happens outside of Discord. I hope @spark jackal had some answers that will help them in their future

[mellow merlin]

😂 yeah

i gotchu

i dont charge so its not like a scam or anything...if they are satisfied they can donate

[ruby jackal]

I don't think any real life client care, although obviously if you're acomplete nood they might pass on you. IMHO lying is worse though. You could say a realistic 2-5 years and it will still look good. Whatever is the reality of course.

[mellow merlin]

i dont force payments

which is why im broke

[ruby jackal]

Yes, that leads us to the very intersting conversation with Joseph, treat it like a business and you will earn. Treat it like a hobby and you won't

I suggest you scroll up.

On this note, good bye!

[mellow merlin]

no i read that

[mellow merlin]

bye

[carmine sigil]

is there a tutorial to making phones look burnt

[mellow merlin]

youre talking abt photo manipluation...well its not just abt phones

tutorial wont be there

[spark jackal]

bye

[pliant swift]

Hello, how hard is to learn Photoshop to do stuff like this?

What I'm trying to do, is create game menu ui - think about candy crush, angry birds - my idea is to create a button that on load, animates from left to right in a natural fast way and text followed after

I usually write code, but wnated to give this a shot - no idea how id even do this in code.

I would assume there are certan techniques regarding this right?

Maybe each button has individual graphic, maybe iits part of an svg? Maybe not because its going to lose a nuance? No idea.

And if someone wants to do this for me, I'd credit in the game xD

[pliant swift]

I think animation is a totally different topic as well isn't it - because Id assume chalk particles would be done in code not photoshop

[chilly kernel]

depends on the game engine you would have to create 2-3 versions of each button

[pliant swift]

I'm using JavaScript - no game engine. I'd be up to use framer motion.

Though I'm not a game dev, just a programmer working on the web mostly

creating simple 2D game that's static

I suppose I could always use Canvas but... I'm also just doing stuff with pure HTML/CSS + React

[chilly kernel]

sadly not my area of interest, i could try to help with unreal engine, as i know a bit about it

[pliant swift]

How would this stuff work on unreal engine?

[chilly kernel]

you have 3 states

[pliant swift]

I mean, Id assume the process is rather similar regardless where this is imported right

[chilly kernel]

idle (when cursor isn't on the menu), hover, on click

[pliant swift]

Yeah, so that's basic

What about the animation/drawing stuff etc?

[chilly kernel]

and you create menu for each state

[pliant swift]

When you say that, do you mean a new Button that has custom graphic or?

[chilly kernel]

yeah

[pliant swift]

So on games like angry brids, etc... when it says: Play, Options, Languages - each of these will have its own custom graphic to match the lenght?

And what about the animation?

Say you want to animate chalk from left to right on load, and then text appear soon after - how would that be done? And particles id assume its just code + texture

[chilly kernel]

you can animate hover and on click states

[pliant swift]

but how would the texture/image be animated ? so its natural

[chilly kernel]

hover can highlight button and on click can start animation

[pliant swift]

Right, those are technical parts - but what about the UX of the animation in terms of the texture itself?

[chilly kernel]

well you would have to create those assets or buy those

[pliant swift]

But its it just an image or do you have to animate it somehow? (can animate with code but..) how is this usually doen?

Id assume you enver use an SVG either right

what file do you usually have for this menu?

[chilly kernel]

i work with png files

but that's what game engine require

[pliant swift]

I suppose png is the best coz svg would be hard and heavy

so I guess png is standrd

[chilly kernel]

but it's easier to scale svg

[pliant swift]

hmmm true

[pliant swift]

is it possible for chalk like I sent above?

can you ahve this in an svg?

or not really viable?

i tried to convert this to an svg with tools but it was always losing texture etc

and this is also random stuff i found online but yeah

[chilly kernel]

not sure you can achieve this effect with svg files, but on the other i don't use illustrator too often

i think to keep this effect you will need raster image

[river furnace]

If you're trying to animate an effect like that in a game engine, you'll probably do it on a sprite sheet, where you draw every frame.

[pliant swift]

Hmmmm. I see.

I think I'm starting to get the gist.

So for complex stuff like above, a raster image which is normal image... I would need to have it transparent bg that should be PNG idealy and then I can animate this from left to right, and add some code magic

[pliant swift]

I'm using JavaScript with no engine, although using Framer Motion - though I just started using framer motion

[river furnace]

OK. Regardless. Its probably going to be the same. (Although, I have no idea what Framer Motion is.)

[chilly kernel]

as for creating assets you will have to create at leat 3 version of same button 1 idle, 2 hover 3 on click

i just slapped something quickly to show what i mean

[pliant swift]

Ah, I see what you meant with the before - you obeviously skip the code effects like :hover etc... coz this will be an image obeviously

[chilly kernel]

you just swap images as it's should be cheaper to do

[pliant swift]

yeah, that makes sense, and then attach some code partcicles for the chalk effect/dust

So that means for every menu item, I need to create a appropriate width for each - wonder how that works with translations? singe translations can have different word lenght - suppose its the same thing, just need to pick the right width for the word for translation

[chilly kernel]

or just don't translate 😏

[pliant swift]

gotta always include Spanish 😄

[river furnace]

I would use a solution that has a notion of some rudimentary geometry, text/fonts etc. Unless these pill buttons are going to have some special shape or whatever where you have to make images. Otherwise that's too much work for some buttons. heh

[pliant swift]

for stuff like this? (with chalk dust falling - particles)

and then text on top

[chilly kernel]

yeah i would keep it simple aswell

here you can find some inspiration for menu https://www.gameuidatabase.com/

[river furnace]

OK. I suppose you'll have to use images in that case. But if you're talking about swapping out for different languages, that is a lot of images to make.

[pliant swift]

Yeah, I suppose just need a dozen images and swap them for an aprox lenght for each world make the images bit longer for general translations

But that's down the road xD

[chilly kernel]

or you can always create static image with some dividers and put just text with custom font

[pliant swift]

The thing with chalk is that I'm not sure its going to look good if you stretch if you knwo what i mean

[river furnace]

Probably not. You'll have to make it big enough to accommodate the longest text. Stretching it won't look good.

[chilly kernel]

well complex images are not easy to scale

[river furnace]

You could make one background and dynamically write the text over it in the game engine. Make your 2-3 states and then plop the text on. Write a function that detects language and switch out the words.

Not sure what your skill level is here but its not that difficult with JavaScript.

Please note: I'm using the term "game engine" generically here. Whether you used a pre-fab JavaScript lib to do it or you hack something together yourself, there is still some structure that is holding the thing together. :)

[pliant swift]

Yeah, I think the hard part for me to grasp is a fancy animation - I got no problem doing that or whatever, but its that animation stuff a certain way - not sure if I'm overcomplicating in my head.

So I suppose plan of actoin:

• Create a transparent chalk PNG
• Do that for every button
• Create 3 states for each
• Create chalk dust effect in code particles

One edge I see is when you animat the left/right draw of chalk, don't want to have a lazer sharp cut on the right

actually that's not an edge is it

I can see how id solve that maybe, id need to code it up and see

[river furnace]

I would do this: make a "Button" Class. It could have methods that accept an image sprite (one PNG that contains 2-3 "states") that change based on event (idle, hover, clicked, etc), it accepts a text string (each word in each language), effects (glow, particles, etc). Build something that you can re-use.

This is getting beyond the scope of this server though. This is Photoshop. Not coding or web dev chat. :)

[pliant swift]

I'm master at code, just not that experienced with sprites and such

but makes sense, I suppose I also need to have a retina 2x right

so different resolutions for different screens

I already got the entire game coded, just needs graphics

[river furnace]

Just make one that is large enough to scale on a retina display. On a normal display it would still be fine.

[pliant swift]

right, that makes sense

unless one is for a tv screen and one for mobile

In terms of chalk itself, its best to use photoshop? not illustrator?

I suppose its all about the brushes right

[river furnace]

You could use either one. You're probably exporting out a sprite sheet to PNG format so either would work. But for raster images, Photoshop is probably a better choice for this chalk effect.

[pliant swift]

And I suppose same goes for chalkboard - needs to be the size of the screen, if its a mac a 5k resultuoin background chalkboard image?

[river furnace]

I would assume so

[pliant swift]

Seems expensive but

I guess if that's the way for games

Seems like this is a 10minute job if one knows how to go about graphics 😄

[river furnace]

If the style of your game is more 'realistic' or has subtle gradients and such. It seems like you're trying to recreate some sort of continuous tone images. Then you'll need raster files.

[pliant swift]

Yeah, I guess, its basically chalk stuff

[river furnace]

Everything is drawn on a chalkboard? Is that the style of the game?

[pliant swift]

I'm creating tic tac toe in chalk - but shhhh don't tell anyone 🙈

[river furnace]

Ah. I see. :D

[pliant swift]

later I want toc reate a drawing game with chalk

but first tic tac toe as I already cod ethe game logic

[river furnace]

So you want to animate someone making the X's and O's.

[pliant swift]

want to add some cool sound effects etc - yeah I already have the animation for that too just no graphics

right now everything is very straight line neon

I don't like that even tho it can look cool

i want facny stuff

and I think chalk will just work fine

and hopefully not too hard to do for a newbiew in graphics xd

[river furnace]

I would do this with sprite sheets. One for the X. One for the O.

[pliant swift]

So the X would get an /and then \ forming and "x" right

a stroke

one two

[river furnace]

Yeah. The animation would have essentially two slashes. Maybe 8 frames each animation: X and O.

So 8 images in a row. Cycle through them in the game engine.

[pliant swift]

Like fragments of one line in 8 pieces?

[river furnace]

Correct. Maybe 4 frames for each slash.

[pliant swift]

How would the animation for that look like?

Not clunky?

this is standard to do for every game?

[river furnace]

I mean, 8 frames, its not going to be Walt Disney but it should be enough to get the point across.

[pliant swift]

ah

I see what you mean

25 frames = one second

[river furnace]

If you want smoother animation, use more frames of animation. :)

[pliant swift]

I'm starting to get the gist slowly xD

glad you mentioned Walt Disney xD

reminded me of Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse

and how they created that on paper or whatever

[river furnace]

@chilly kernel might know some other tricks for game engines to cheat on the animation. Not my area of expertise here.

I think from a programming perspective, you should be able to cycle the frames at a certain interval that can make the animation a bit faster/smoother than just one frame per ms.

[pliant swift]

Hmmmm. Id need to do more research regarding thi smyself as this isn't somethign I normally do either

I mostly code webapps, think webflow clone, or ecommerce 😄

[river furnace]

I'm building a rudimentary game right now but I'm using p5 and the <canvas> object. :) - But its not my area of expertise

[chilly kernel]

I would keep things easy and just replace images as it’s cheaper, and most of people don’t pay attention to menus anyway

[pliant swift]

It gotta look good in portfolio and thumbnail xD

But yeah, I will deff odo that for the buttons

[pliant swift]

What about animating drawing chalk? say its a drawing game, or animating creating an X, first an \ then an / ? You need to do that in fragments right?

[chilly kernel]

Unfortunately yeah

[pliant swift]

Damn. That seems to be prob the most complicated part

its kind of like re-creating brushesh functionality

and if I was to create a drawing game, its basically a 1:1 replica of that then

[river furnace]

I'd maybe start with something like this... 😅

[pliant swift]

🤔 how would you export this with?

what file extention?

[river furnace]

You should have to export out the frames to a sprite sheet.

[pliant swift]

so that X is 8frames?

[river furnace]

Unless your game engine accepts a video with a transparent background. Like WebM or something.

[river furnace]

No. Its not 8 frames. Its just an example of how you might animate an X being drawn in chalk. heh

[pliant swift]

you could technically resize this X if its WebM right?

weather its a square 40px or 500px

or not quite

[river furnace]

I probably shouldn't have mentioned that. Doing this as transparent video could be complicated because I'm not sure that works on all platforms/browsers. heh

But its a possibility if you want to research how that might work and work with your "game engine." :)

The general way would probably be to export that out to individual frames of animation and put them all on a sprite sheet and play them in order. (One PNG image with all the frames in cols and rows.)

Or maybe use an animated GIF for the animated part and when the animation is complete, blit a still image there for the remainder of the time its on-screen.

I don't know. Those are things you're going to have to work through on your own. :)

[pliant swift]

Yeah, for sure going need to do researh for that.

I think I'll go with sprites as that seems to be standard way though maybe not the best for a drawing game - will see.

Hardest part is creating grphics, but suppose that's easy if you know how lol

Alright, I'm going to plan this out.

Really appriciate it and for ya'll time, and @chilly kernel as well. Super helpful.

I think I got the idea how this stuff works now - I tried AI but it was a bit useless regarding this.

Now makes sense. I think one I got a grasp of this, its gonna be a 10min job but yeah

I feel like I should have learned photoshop a decade ago xd

I think the issue with this is always the price though

and computer

I remeber I had it once and my computer just coudln't handle it back a few years ago

[river furnace]

Its like any software. It was designed to make jobs/lives easier. If the software makes the job/your life easier, then its worth the price. Also if you can use it as a tax write-off.

[pliant swift]

I agree with that - just need to have the money + time to make use of it AND a good enough compuer with enough space lol

If I get this new job though, I deffo will get this, I'd prob have this for free anyway, but I will know in a week from now.

I got 16GM Ram its all used with my tabs

basically my life be like:

just closed one browser as well xd

[river furnace]

I know the feeling

Except, I have that plus, Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere, Visual Studio, and about 10 other apps open as well. :D

[pliant swift]

https://tenor.com/view/apple-apple-mac-apple-macbook-apple-macbook-air-apple-macbook-air2020-gif-26293465

You must have a God Computer

[pliant swift]

Windows?

or Mac?

[river furnace]

Windows. Of course.

[pliant swift]

Because its stronger for this stuff?

And Id assume you have a retina display right

Most desingers doing web at least always use a Mac at work

[river furnace]

Because I can have a good GPU and I can swap my own parts. Can't do that with a Macbook or Macs in general. Plus they're too expensive.

[pliant swift]

Interesting

I suppose for your average designers doing some easy stuff its no big deal to just have a mac

at a company budget lol

[river furnace]

I'm both artist and an engineer. I have one foot in each world. But I'm not about to compromise with a Mac. Too limiting. I want to be able to run LLMs and other AI models locally. Plus, I like being in control of my own computer.

When you get a Mac, they own YOU. heh

[pliant swift]

But can you hand draw? 😄

[river furnace]

Yeah. Been drawing all my life.

[pliant swift]

Damn, so you're a real artist then

[river furnace]

I'm just a person with too many interests. :)

[pliant swift]

What kind of work do you do art and engeener wise? Engeener as in programming or building stuff from metal?

[river furnace]

I work in image processing of pixel data from large format cameras. And provisioning of that data and imagery.

[pliant swift]

🤔 Sounds complicated - kinda like science?

[river furnace]

Basically this: take pixel data off complex camera, get it to guy who needs it. heh

[pliant swift]

Similar to hardware storing stuff with physics, and showing it in computer GUI?

[pliant swift]

Sounds like sales xD

[river furnace]

No. Software solutions for Big Data problems. To get specialized data to people who use it.

That sounds like sales. :)

[pliant swift]

Yeah, so that's like some high level stuff - probably backbone of society in some regards Id guess 👀

If I understand correctly what that is

just did some research

[river furnace]

Meh. A lot of geo-science. Image analysis for erosion, coastline changes... animal poaching. heh

[pliant swift]

Do you know a lot about eyes?

they have photons right

[river furnace]

Effects of weather on portions of the Earth. Hurricanes, psunamis, flooding...

[pliant swift]

Oh

That kind of stuff

[pliant swift]

What keeps the water from not falling off the edge? 🙈

[river furnace]

Eyes don't "have" photons. They receive and the brain perceives photons, I suppose.

[river furnace]

Oh, no. You're not one of those Flat Earthers, are you?

[pliant swift]

xD haha

just messing lol

[pliant swift]

Do you also have interest in science itself in terms of biological stuff? I'm thinking about myopia you know xD

[river furnace]

I thought you were going to tell me that the satellites in orbit are flying around a dinner plate (in the simulation)

[pliant swift]

OH no, the satelites are a big baloon the gov set

xD

That's actually what a nice older lady told me last year

[river furnace]

Well, I gotta get back to work. Good luck with your project.

Actually do need to work. Not because you're living in the Flat Earth Matrix. :D

[pliant swift]

My earth is actually square, it has 6 diemnsions.

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-gif-25791245

Nah, I don't play that game xD

[pliant swift]

Thanks, and also @chilly kernel really appricaite the help and was nice having a chat!

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @river furnace (current: #2 - 3094)

[river furnace]

Reminds me of Superman's Bizzaro World. :D

[pliant swift]

How does the water not fall down xD

What is gravity xD

cube has no physics lol

in my world, the water would fall down due to physics xD

anyway lol

[chilly kernel]

No worries i dont think i helped much

[river furnace]

Magic, probably.

[pliant swift]

Helped a lot!

[river furnace]

Thanks @chilly kernel!

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @chilly kernel (current: #33 - 59)

[pliant swift]

Thanks! 😄

Hmmmm.

Not sure how this rep system works

[river furnace]

There is a cool-down period for Carma. Otherwise people would sit here all day and Spam the Carma Bot. heh

[chilly kernel]

it would be another check your DM 😏

[pliant swift]

This server seems pretty cool actually ^^

[river furnace]

I wish there was a cool-down period for "Bro, check your DMs"

[chilly kernel]

well you could add DM to blacklist for bot 😏

[pliant swift]

I think actually once I get the job, and give the fact I can code - I'm going to focus 100% on learning graphic tools like Photoshop and how to do stuff

that would be amazing combo

people who create angry birds or flappy birds, they all can code, but the magic is in design

well, at least for games

I usually do other stuff

but games is something cool to work on once a while + looks impressive

like this stuff is amazing

[river furnace]

I do know about photo-manipulation. Probably been doing it for longer than you've been alive. The point you're making is exactly the reason for my original rant. However, not for the same reason. I don't care what people's "perceptions or assumptions" are. I like both Photoshop and AI Tech. However, I don't appreciate these AI Tech Bros on YouTube posting videos every five minutes about the next "Photoshop Killer." I happen to like Photoshop and using it to create image comps. And I create them with pixels from a variety of different sources, e.g. my own photos, other people's photos, AI generated pixels and so on.

Next, let's have zero illusions here. When you create an image composite, "everything" is not "literally made by you" unless you've taken all of the photographs yourself. While you may have "not used A.I. or generated any pixels" to create whatever it is, you're still taking images that you didn't create, that don't belong to you, that you don't have permission to use and you're using them for your own purposes. Thus, you didn't really create everything yourself. While I appreciate the sentiment and that you "think" that the work is somehow more "pure" this attitude comes off as arrogant. It's the results that count, i.e. the quality of the image, the value it has, the interest or attention it gets from the viewer. And I even said in my original post: you have to be an active participant in the process. You need to have "skin in the game" for something to be your artwork. Not just hit the generate button and post on Instagram. Apparently, you missed that part of my statement or it was lost in translation.

Ugh. Now I really need to get on with something more constructive. :)

[pliant swift]

I enjoyed reading this. I see a lot of this stuff in web desing as well

These people usually don't understand a thing

Especailly in web design, people think desing is just colors, don't think about functioniality at all

its better to make something ulgier but more functional than prettier

but tht's also off topic xD

but yeah large topic

[river furnace]

I think the funny/interesting/confusing thing about all the AI image generation hate is the following. When the big tech firms were scraping the internet for every web design, stealing all of the code/CSS that other people created and used it to build dynamic apps that essentially destroyed every small web development firm, where were these people then? I know where... They were saying "YAY! I don't have to pay a web developer to make my website! Muwahaha!"

[pliant swift]

I wonder if were in a rollercoaster

because AI is just a tool

its not magic

people due to ignorance don't know it

I had a prospect spend £4k on a dev who AI generated webapp that doens't work - wanted me to fix it, but didn't had budget anymore, so he is screwed

he learned the hard way what AI generated code is for a big hard app that needs proper inrstructure

Same with web design, usually its all about conversions, not how pretty it looks

it being pretty is a bonus

I feel like right now we might be on a downside with all of this, but once people realise the nonsense, there will be a lot of work in the coming years

[river furnace]

Its a tool like anything else.

Its how you use that tool that is the compelling factor.

[pliant swift]

Yes 100%

I use AI with code, but I check every single line and usually re-write it - its good to get a quick prototype idea to start off faster but that's abot it.

Or use AI sa texbook, I don't know physics so I ask it to help me creat gravity and walk me through how this works but yeah

most people IME just use it like its some magic

[river furnace]

Exactly. Its great for "Hey... I have this class. Let's optimize it for efficiency." Or "write a new method for this class that does, X, Y and Z."

These people who go around claiming that you're going "Zero Shot" a web app and put it on the App Store are just liars. heh

[pliant swift]

Yeah, and even then, sometimesit splits BS and you have to catch it and you need to reason when it gives you new code for say "efficiency"

But that only comes with experience and knowing theory - thats why I think in this era and age writig code is cheap, knowing how to assemble and higher level concepts like arhcitecture and PM etc... is more important. And some code as well to know which scalees better or whatever Pros and cons of using hashed or flat structure or whatever - AI doens't usually reason about these things on its own usually

[river furnace]

This was the point of my original rant about "Photoshop Killers." First of all, stop with the clickbait. Its not true. This BS will never kill Photoshop. Furthermore, you can't even use Photoshop so that's why you need a Photoshop Killer. lol.

[pliant swift]

If you know about web, when working with URLs you use the URL bar as a state, and the AI often gives you Redux lol and then you have every single dev using Redux in every app xD

You don't need Reud xin 99% aps xD

[pliant swift]

I do need a Photoshop Killer xD Would be great lol I think most stuff I want is simple, so would be great to automate this like the chalk stuff xD

haha

[river furnace]

You can probably get it to create an animation of an X being written in chalk. However, its going to be complicated. Will it be exactly what you want? Will you even be able to use what it gives you? After you spend 10 hours/ 10 weeks / 10 months trying to figure that out, you could've just paid someone to do it for you. heh

[pliant swift]

Yeah, that's the sad truth lol

The thing with product development its all in smart iterations

not something AI can do

desing wise

[pliant swift]

Maybe we can partner up 🥹 😄

[river furnace]

You want me to make your X's and O's? lol

[pliant swift]

Yes xD I can pay in crediting you in the app xD

I guess the button and line(for the grid) and chalkboard, x and o that would be the bare basics xD

I've already spend a day on this today lol

but I think its mostly due to ignorance

I've deffo learned a lot here as well how its meant to work in the first place

but also was using some free tooling which isn't that great either

was trying to do that in figma but they dont have brushes unless its custom but that's far from what you showed me

[river furnace]

Do you know how to work with Blending Modes in code? Like Screen and Multiply to use it to drop the black or white from an image?

[pliant swift]

Hmmmm, I think I've done some with CSS - if that's what you mean?

But if you're talking about just programming that then I never touched it as such

Suppose if you're talking about things like shaders and similar, then no

[pliant swift]

Something like this perhaps https://supadevkit.com/css/background-in-text - but that's basic stuff

[river furnace]

What I'm saying is: if you use "Screen" Blend Mode on an image with a black background, you can drop the Black. Leaving just the white. Then all of your animations just need to be white shapes on a black background. Not transparent. Might make it easier to create the animations.

[pliant swift]

If I understand correctly, this woduln't work if the background is other than a pure color - say a chalkboard with dust, or I got that wrogn?

Im just thinking how thiscould be done in HTML and JS

without using canvas and similar

[river furnace]

Blend Modes work (and only work) because there is something behind it to "blend with." Thus, if I removed the red block behind this image, the background behind the X would revert to black. But you could totally use a chalkboard image behind it.

I only brought it up because it seems creating these things with a transparent background might be problematic for you. And using white shapes on a black background (with Screen Blending Mode in code) might be easier.

Anyways, just an idea.

(Animated images that is.) If you're just making one still image, then its easy enough to make one PNG file. Its the animations where you have a lot of frames that seems like an issue.

[pliant swift]

Hmmmm, for that I was thinking a clip path to reveal one stroke per animation

[river furnace]

OK. Then disregard. :)

[pliant swift]

Generally speaking, code wise I would adapt - just trying to figure out what is the industry standard for this in a HTML game without canvas

I'm going over each implementation and there are pros and cons to each

trying to see what makes the most sense

[river furnace]

Why "without" canvas? You're trying to do this using only HTML/CSS? No JavaScript?

[pliant swift]

Well, I could do canvas as well I guess. I was using React but maybe I should just use canvas.

I didn't want to overcomplicate this xD

just a quick weekend game but finds out graphics and that is a bit more than a weekend epseically if I never done graphic games

[river furnace]

You didn't want to overcomplicate it so you said... "Let's use ReactJS!" (?) haha

That seems like the most complicated thing you could've done. :D

[pliant swift]

Yeah, I already got the fucntionality and basic UI for the game - in canvas ud need an entire engine but it could be a better experience etc...

[river furnace]

I see. I'm just kidding around. Though, React is complicated because you have to do builds and compile the thing. It can be a pain in the neck with resources paths, etc.

[pliant swift]

Maybe xD Been using it for years now so its fairly easy now but 😄 I've already created a button that does Pee Boop - I just enver finished the game.

It was a typewriting game - see if I can find it.

This is something I never finished, just idea test 5 years ago https://touch-type.netlify.app/ but yeah - absolute garbage. But now I'm actually creating proper stuff xd

I wanted to create a piano like game as well, but I think the project Im doing now is simple enough xD and wnat to get it out

I just wish I've invested some time in photoshop and all that in the past

[pliant swift]

how hard is to creat that chalkboard and X?

or learn how to do it like that?

is it easy - relatively speaking? I know its easy for you as an expeience person but

coz thats already better chalkboard scraches than what I've seen online lol

im just thinking actually, animation can be done later to for that

MVP for O and X can be without animation

[river furnace]

Well, in regards to me making the animations for you, if you can use a GIFa format, then here is your X! lol

Just stop the GIF on the last frame. Done. :)

[pliant swift]

Is a natural way more from left to bottom and them from bottom left to top right? 😄 Haha but that could be a personalisation feature for each player 😄

[pliant swift]

Interestingn lol thanks going to try this out why not xD

[vernal field]

Gave +1 Creative Carma to @river furnace (current: #2 - 3095)

[river furnace]

Here. That is without the loop.

[pliant swift]

this seems to be even better details wise

the one before was a bit washed

[river furnace]

Its larger. 1024.

[pliant swift]

ah

[river furnace]

You want an O to go with it?

Or you got this doing it another way? :D

[pliant swift]

I mean, would be nice if you got time please xD

I'm going to do it with GIF - its the most simple way I think. No oint overcomplicating it for an MVP when this is the only animation that will be there for now.

Techically the grid will need animating but I think taking things step by step will be better.

Though, wonder, would you mind please export that chalk board as well please - in that colour and a almost black? 😄 for a 2-3k width screen please 😄 maybe one chalk like this in whatever color you think would suit too if you got time? 😄 I would just fit the text in one long one I guess and use that for now

[river furnace]

I think maybe I'm not into this that much. Sorry. :)

[pliant swift]

No worries xD I wonder is the above a more than a brush in photoshop or?

[river furnace]

Probably just a Brush.

[pliant swift]

what about the chalkboard? how did you do that?

[river furnace]

Just an image of a chalkboard I found on Google. heh

[pliant swift]

OH lol

the ones I found weren't as good

interesting lol

but aslo loooking for copyright free images so maybe that swhy

[river furnace]

I literally just typed "chalkboard" into the Image Search. heh

[pliant swift]

Yeah, maybe that's why - I usually avoid google images due to copyright reasons

[river furnace]

I understand. Generate one with AI!

haha

[pliant swift]

I tried and its all bad lol

Though I only used Grok - coz that has so far no limit

[river furnace]

What size and dimensions are you trying to hit?

Maybe you need a real stock image. Not a small AI generation.

[pliant swift]

oh yeah that too, every image is too small

well, my computer is 2k wide, people who will be looking at this will be on macs so id onlya ssume i need up to 5k resolution

[river furnace]

Then you either need a good AI image and upscale it. Or you need a real stock photo of a chalkboard. Whatever floats your boat.

[pliant swift]

If I had more money and space on my computer id get photoshop but need to improvise - I think maybe I'll just do everyone neon, then a month form now comeback and actually get phtoshop and experiment with this

[pliant swift]

Yeah, the first image Id buy woduln't be the image id use either Im sure

But you are right

I think need to compromise the chalk for now, and will comeback to this in a month

then I'll have hopefully a better computer and more money and more time to actually play around with this

[river furnace]

Then I won't bother animating an O. You got this yourself. :D

Clipping Path on a shape!

SVG can do it!

Just won't be chalk. heh

[pliant swift]

Yeah, I really appricate the X and the half-O, just thinking about it realistically spaeking, for this to be quality design, it will need a bit more than that

I don't know, if you do the O I'll put it on 😄

[river furnace]

If I were doing this...

I would make several X animations and several O animations and randomly choose which one. Then they weren't always the same graphic. lol

[pliant swift]

But now I'm thinking the grid needs to be animated as well

[river furnace]

And this... lol

[pliant swift]

and its like..

do you want to be my full time designers xD right lol

SO I think the idea is cool, but Id probably need to compromise on it for now if I can't finish the deisng off on my own

coz first iteration wont be that good either, will need some iterations as well, maybe color changes

and that's a lot of work

[river furnace]

I'm just saying. It would be a lot cooler if it wasn't always the same X and O. :)

If you're gonna do Tic-Tak-Toe, you should go HAM on it! haha

[pliant swift]

Yeah for sure, and going further each stroke could also be started from a different position based on player customisation same with O instead of starting on same position

[pliant swift]

Unless you wanna help with graphics from A to Z I'll code itup xD

but yeah 100%

You could evne create chalk emojs!

when you typ ein multiplaer chat

damn

I got a lot of ideas achtually now

[river furnace]

I'd love to help but I'm working on my own game. Right now trying to get controller vibration to work with events in my game.

[pliant swift]

I got like 3 ideas that would work with chalk - just no time xD

[pliant swift]

OH nice, what are you building?

[river furnace]

Just a little side-scrolling platformer game prototype. Never done it before. So I'm doing it now.

[pliant swift]

What is the story behind?

A Gummy Monster or?

[river furnace]

Under wraps for now. Just a little character trying to save the world. heh

[pliant swift]

And I bet its a flat world, isn't it? 😉

A flat character in a flat world

[river furnace]

Its even worse than a Flat Earth. Its completely 2D and layered backgrounds that loop. heh

[pliant swift]

Multi-galactic, I see.

Got some graphics done alrady?

OR secret for now? 🕵️

[river furnace]

Oh. I have a playable level. I have most of my intro. One cut scene mostly animated. But I'm not sharing at this point. When its done, if its playable and doesn't crash people's browsers, I will release it. heh

[pliant swift]

You can crash mine, I don't mind - whenever its done 😄

Would love to test it

[river furnace]

Alright, well, stick around the server. Maybe at some point I'll finish it. heh

At this more than a month now and its been eating up a lot of time but I'm not giving up on it.

Probably won't be an award-winner for gameplay but maybe someone will have fun with it.

[mellow merlin]

There are artist who paint in photoshop asw, like imad

And I use brushes asw

and yeah i understand what you mean, sometimes we use random pictures available on web

[pliant swift]

For sure 😄

[river furnace]

That's great. I appreciate you wanting to do photo-bashing and not using any AI. But if you're using other people's images, then you're not really creating everything yourself. You're doing the right thing. And I totally understand where you're coming from. No argument from me there. :)

[mellow merlin]

My point is completely different, its not about the youtubers im talking about, im talking in general

[pliant swift]

I got this idea to create a lot of easy cool games just to build up my portfolio.

I've build a lot of SaaS but I never launched any so I need to get a "real" dev job now lol that's why I can't buy photoshop now either xD etc

But hopueflly gonna get an offer next month.

People seem to like stuff that animates, so though create something like that in a weekend.

But maybe I should stick with neon for now easy to do all in code - with chalk its bit more complicated to do that.

Really appricaite the time, I'll deffo use what you've done in some regards i nthe future, make sure my X matches your X lol and yeah

[mellow merlin]

About youtubers, i feel like they are tryna get more clicks/views from such videos

nothing can kill photoshop

[pliant swift]

Competition can

[mellow merlin]

unless they fidn some technology to automate everything using photoshop whcih kills the need for talent

[mellow merlin]

i am sorry i didnt get you

[pliant swift]

Competition can kill photoshop

[mellow merlin]

i dont think there was any app that was close to having 90 percent of the photoshop features, the most close one was gimp which i kinda didnt like using

[river furnace]

They've been trying but.. Nah. You're not "killing" Photoshop. Photoshop is a verb now. Its part of the culture. Which is why its so easy for people to attack.

[pliant swift]

most people never use 90% of photoshop, maybe 20% at max, so create something niched, expand, grow , take the market by small steps, build a community etc... its doable. Its not all about features

[mellow merlin]

and think about it, its been what 40 years since photoshop came

[pliant swift]

For sure, but the business can still fail

ther eis Xerox?

it was in dictionary and it failed

I don't remember the name

[mellow merlin]

still when talking about PHOTO EDITING , the first thing that comes in mind is photoshop

[river furnace]

Maybe. Like 35 years now. 17 billion last year? I don't see it failing but, OK. Yeah. Sure. :)

[pliant swift]

the same can be said about other software that failed

[mellow merlin]

which other software mate

[pliant swift]

Of course doesn'thappen in a year

[mellow merlin]

wait i gotta go, im late for dinner

bye

[river furnace]

Xerox didn't have any vision. And Jobs and Woz did. Xerox missed the boat. They couldve had it all! heh

[pliant swift]

If Photoshpo offends its customres its gg

Again, the possiblity as much as its low its possible xD

[river furnace]

Anyways, many of us love Photoshop. Use it for years. I've tried all of the others. Typically not awesome. So I'll stay with Adobe. Thanks for your concern. :)

[pliant swift]

Not a concern, just a theory xD

I don't even know what could be a photoshop competition

oh wait

there is Sketch right

that was popular like 10years ago

what happen with that lol

and it was only for mac too if I remember correctly

[river furnace]

There are a few of them. Gimp maybe. (lol). Affinity... meh. OK. Is Corel Draw still around?

[pliant swift]

I'm going to learn Photoshop and Illustrator once I got more money and time - I'm gonna need this

even the work I do it will help

[river furnace]

On the iPad there is Procreate. That's actually pretty good. But its only on the iPad so not going to displace Adobe Photoshop. :)

[pliant swift]

Yeah, and every job too is that so

If I could get better using these tools, and create something actually of quality

id apply for designer roles but can't yet...

I understand color theory, goldern rule of spacing, etc...

fundamendals to some extend

but yeah

need to build a bit of portfolio

[river furnace]

Sounds like a good plan!

[pliant swift]

I just applied to a job with a CV from 3years ago and I got interviews lol

that doesn't even reflect my current skill level

and project on that 3year cv are 5year sold xD

Been doing freelance and contracting here and there but yeah.... llong story.

Anyway...

Super excited for the future as long as I get myself sorted

Can't wait to learn photoshop

and create graphics

the chalk stuff is going to be my thingy

got plenty of ideas for chalk games

not sure why I like chalk so much xD - For now I'll stick with neon as that's easy to do in code and quick to launch

[river furnace]

The chalk games sound interesting if you can actually get the aesthetic sorted out, visuals, animation, sound effects. It could be a cool vibe type of thing. :)

[pliant swift]

Yes 100%

its going to be super hard Im sure

especailly the chalk particles and dust

I think the code isn't that hard per say

its all about getting the aesthetics and the vibe

and I thin kthis coul dbe a banger

similar games exists I guess, maybe not in chalk

[river furnace]

Looking forward to seeing it!

[pliant swift]

yeah, like the game functionality its basic, the effects and programming those effects is what I got no exp in but also whats goign to be the hardest part I feel like

[inner hemlock]

An idea for a chalk game is when you die (or lose/whatever equivalent) you hear a nails on a chalkboard sound effect

[pliant swift]

I just figured out, wanting to create multiplayer mode, for free P2P hosting, is that one limitation for that is that there is no central host to know what lobbies to exists... so theres usually a small limited server, that just stuff goes through it - like messages, hence when you reload the page, all messages disappear because they are sent to the browser once and the dismanted right away

Anyway, now that Im creating my own lil game I can understand why some of the games did bad UX like that xD money limitations xD

[pliant swift]

Oh, that is actaully a nice idea!

Now, whos got nails to record the sound!

[chilly kernel]

The old project triangle😅

[pliant swift]

xD but also crushed dreams. "When I grow up old, I'll make a game that persists messages, as I HATE when messages disappear when i accidentally reload" - now on the other side, being able to actually code it up...

"Ahhhh... No I understand xD"

But one quick UX improvement would be to store messages in browser for like 10minutes

let the user set if they want the option for privacy etc

that could mitigate some of the annoyance

Either way, thinking about the UI

Never done UI like this

just doing a moodboard

Need to learn the anatomy of functionality for these kind of games

As I never use mobile phone, last time I played was flappy birds however many years that was lol

probably over a decade now

It feels like the Settings sshould always be visible

I don't know, gotta work on mobile + desktop, suppose mobile UI needs to be first, vertical

[pliant swift]

Hate working with constrains xd

if I had better computer, more money, more time, id great an ideal game I want, instead I need to opt in for a neon theme game coz that's the easiest one xd tho not too bad

but hey, can't wait to actually get photoshop soon xd

[inner hemlock]

I've always thought Billie Eilish was the catalyst of baggy clothes/90ish style coming back in style but I'm continuously finding reasons to think Adobe is equally apart of it.

I feel like I could make a conspiracy video about it

[viscid notch]

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