⌨coders-cave

[cloud solar]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-mandalorian-the-mandalorian-way-the-way-gif-15851239

[boreal vector]

[cloud solar]

Why u wanna spend time on a course?

[orchid frigate]

mov eax, 0x1
cmp eax, 1
je hlt_label
popa
ret
hlt_label:
hlt

Whats wrong with that

[boreal vector]

im dreaming about jobs always

some are coding some are archeologist maybe its premonition

well nvm

[boreal vector]

what are cmp for?

[orchid frigate]

Compare

Register to a value

Usually

[boreal vector]

oh so they are short words

[orchid frigate]

Yes

Kinda

[cloud solar]

@boreal vector check that : https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Vector3.html

[boreal vector]

so thats why i search there is nothing popping

[orchid frigate]

Funny you say popping

[boreal vector]

finnaly i found the meaning of this things

[orchid frigate]

push eax
mov al, [eax]
pop eax
mov al, [eax] 
mov ah, 0x0e
int 0x10

[boreal vector]

that xyz is from math right?

[cloud solar]

Advice, dont use tutorials, use unity documentation

[cloud solar]

Axis

[boreal vector]

so this need math knowledge?

ughhh

maybe ill search algebra stuff on yt

i dont listen on my teacher when they are teaching it

[cloud solar]

U need like 2 grade knowledge

[boreal vector]

ik on bathroom

im pooping

yeah

basically laptop

not pc

an old one

[boreal vector]

well do i need like linear algrebra?

and physics

damn like division?

oh good

i got bored easily in math

well gtg ill ask again later

thx seniors

[orchid frigate]

Damn

I didnt interest him in assembly

😔

One day there will be another low level/ os development guy in this chat

@knotty root os dev?

Really?

I didnt quite expect that

I have a little template project made so when you decide to start just tell me

You can use it so that you dont have to make your.own buildenv

[hasty bane]

@main brook i lack the patience to wait for stable v2

Successfully installed discord.py-2.0.0a3786+g3d74da8

[barren shale]

bad advice

use tutorials

they teach you best practices

documentation doesnt teach you best practices

they are too specific

[main brook]

same

ehe

i alry have it installed

[hasty bane]

i moved back to disnake again because uhh

i know its interactions better :DDDDD

[main brook]

you do know

e nevermind but you do you

also rember pycord

back then they literally said they made the lib easy to use and understand

even tho its a fork of dpy

they implicitly said they made everything

[boreal vector]

back

[hasty bane]

kinda cringe innit

[hasty bane]

yeaitsasmallprojectsoidontreallyneedtochangetodiscordpyyet

[main brook]

aren't both

similar

as in

disnake

is a fork

[barren shale]

guys

https://tenor.com/view/your-mom-spy-tf2-team-fortress2-sheesh-gif-21838783

[hasty bane]

yes

[main brook]

is no difference

except it has actually good feature

[hasty bane]

what

disnake?

[main brook]

yes

disnake is prolly dpy but with extra features

[knotty root]

nerf miner

[barren shale]

what

the iq deflation is getting out of hands

[errant trail]

yeah

now one human brain is worth 0 brain cells

one whole brain cell less than 0 to 2021

[hasty bane]

pretty much

[next lotus]

as a filipino speaker

you had one problem

now you had 2

[wet girder]

I love WSL

for some reason my school hasn't disabled microsoft store so I can freely install anything from there with no admin perms

and WSL is the easiest way to get nice linux stuff working with windows

[hasty bane]

wsl is good shit

[wet girder]

only problem is installing stuff in the middle of nowhere as I am currently at a cottage

[hasty bane]

kek

[wet girder]

But hey, Kali WSL for learning hacking at a cottage

yes please

[main brook]

heh nice

[orchid frigate]

there are three fucking articles about uefi applications on the os dev wiki

all of which compile and link everything in 3 different ways

so which is the right one os dev wiki just pick one

[gentle steeple]

we got the basic AI setup, and fixed destructable asteroids https://youtu.be/CKS7N1-9ZmI

and yes the turning AI is having issues with the shield segments

its not trying to turn away and approach obliquely

since firing arcs arent fully setup

[sand raft]

where are the worldbox world files stored?

[gentle steeple]

#🚑help-chat

to "hack"

[sand raft]

I want to see the insides of the files

and if I can edit things inside of them

how so?

[gentle steeple]

pretty sure theres a modding API

[sand raft]

I want to see how I can increase world border size

[gentle steeple]

if you looking for source code, we dont have that

[sand raft]

and looking at world info files looked like a good place to start

[gentle steeple]

ye

if you need bigger than iceberg....

[sand raft]

I do not have enough coding knowledge to understand this "sus" thing

[gentle steeple]

haha

[sand raft]

ah there we go

that's why it's sus

[gentle steeple]

already knows where to look

[sand raft]

I have no idea how figuring out the location of save files = piracy

but if you can, no need to tell me

[gentle steeple]

but honestly if you want legit work, use the modding API

[sand raft]

it's not my intention and if there's a reason you need to hide this information to me I won't ask

[sand raft]

worldbox WORLD files

as in, the place where your saved worlds go

[gentle steeple]

as far as i know you cant change the world size without destroying the file

[sand raft]

ok then nevermind

[gentle steeple]

assuming you could read the format

[sand raft]

I imagined there would be something that defines the X and Y size of the world in a "chunk" system similar to minecraft

[gentle steeple]

pretty sure the worlds arent that big,

for most games you have chunks like minecraft or LODs

LODs are best for full 3D games while chunks are good for more sandbox

[sand raft]

then X and Y based on the "pixels"

[gentle steeple]

again, assuming you could read the files, its likely it would disrupt your world

stretching your existing islands

[sand raft]

I have a blank world

nothing on it yet

just water

[gentle steeple]

just start an Iceberg

im pretty sure, if we expanded them the game itself couldnt read the maps

[sand raft]

I see how that could be a problem

though it makes me wonder how the folks in #🌐✔cool-maps vary their map size so much

[gentle steeple]

that might be a special map addon

can always ask in #🔧mods

this channel is more for non worldbox coding and i havent really touched worldbox coding cause unity

[hollow bronze]

Not sure what you mean

Chunks are used in lots of games, including worldbox

That said this is a non worldbox channel so it does no good to ask here

[barren shale]

Even if you are gonna use LOD you need to stop drawing stuff that isn’t on the screen so chunking will still be used

[barren shale]

also minecraft has both level of details and chunking

[orchid frigate]

Minecraft 2d doesnt have those yet smh

Change that

[barren shale]

minecraft 2d is dead

[hasty bane]

never existed

[errant trail]

terraria

[hasty bane]

unreal

[hasty bane]

thats a ban

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2spy-no-mother-team-fortress2-gif-22434453

[hasty bane]

[errant trail]

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'THE ONE WHO ASKED' is not defined

python comeback!!!!

[hasty bane]

print("your mother")

[errant trail]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

csc /tmp/AteS4wvQ1D.cs
Microsoft (R) Visual C# Compiler version 3.6.0-4.20224.5 (ec77c100)
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

/tmp/AteS4wvQ1D.cs(10,28): error CS0103: The name 'you having not fat mother' does not exist in the current context
``` big comeback!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! B)

node /tmp/M5zSiWxQVm.js
/tmp/M5zSiWxQVm.js:1
MyBrain
^

ReferenceError: MyBrain is not defined
    at Object.<anonymous> (/tmp/M5zSiWxQVm.js:1:1)
    at Module._compile (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:778:30)
    at Object.Module._extensions..js (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:789:10)
    at Module.load (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:653:32)
    at tryModuleLoad (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:593:12)
    at Function.Module._load (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:585:3)
    at Function.Module.runMain (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:831:12)
    at startup (internal/bootstrap/node.js:283:19)
    at bootstrapNodeJSCore (internal/bootstrap/node.js:623:3)
``` JS gives the most error detail B)

[orchid frigate]

What uefi gives when an error acurs:
Sowwy but it failed you are a.fuckinh failure g o fuck yourself

Either that or the entire thing just hangs in one place

No error message just the hang of death

Os dev

Nah but seriously

Yea c# is a good first language

But it really matters what you wanna do

I just realized Im in the os dev discord yet I.never talk there

[barren shale]

does it have 2 members

one of them is you

the other one is also you

[orchid frigate]

5065

Total

Everyone there.is like

So fucking advanced

Even in the noob channel people are talking about complex bootloaders and Shit

[hasty bane]

its the linux discord for people who actually know shit about OSes

[main brook]

I don't know shit about os

[orchid frigate]

Looking at the os dev discord

Nor do I

Mfs are inventing new ways of paging

Even tho some oses are strangely both unix based and have got their own bootloaders and paging

There

Which is strange considering making an os in linux doesn't require you to do any of that

[next lotus]

i started c++ with no knowledge on what im coding

that means you can start in c#

[wet girder]

C# is one of the best beginner languages if not the best

[main brook]

i prefer python

[wet girder]

I personally really don't like python that much anymore

Python is kind of my native programming language if we compare programming languages to real languages

but I still prefer C family languages

[uneven jacinth]

I understand why C is a good language but definitely prefer Java

Although some of that may be because my work in C is mostly OS related and largely in the Linux kernel

[wet girder]

I've never tried C but C# and especially C++ are way too nice to use

[hasty bane]

i love the blazing fast development speed

its great for a person like me who can only spend 24hrs total on a project before abandoning

[main brook]

i spend 20 minute initializing my environment

in python

for js i just

pnpm init

💀

for python

i need like

linters

formatter

and of course

pypoetry

slow

i do sometime use js with linters and formatter

but usually

projects come with it prebuilt

like

with pnpx

no need double configuration

[orchid frigate]

OMG

OMG

ARE YOU AN OS DEV?!?

ARE YOU THE PROMISED SECOND OS DEV OF THE CHAT?!?

I have been expecting you

[uneven jacinth]

Lol sorry but no, just taken coursework with OS

[orchid frigate]

:(

[uneven jacinth]

I’d say in terms of professional skills I’m probably only hirable for web dev still

[orchid frigate]

Im not a pro os dev either not even close

I mean in terms of basic knowledge

[main brook]

haydot was like

"OMG AN OS DEV?!??!"

and got disappointed

[orchid frigate]

one day

berry will become one

and I will have someone to talk to

[uneven jacinth]

I mean I guess I can understand some OS talk???

[orchid frigate]

IDT GDT?

[uneven jacinth]

Nope nvm

[orchid frigate]

well

[hasty bane]

pycharm???

[wet girder]

pycharm garbage

[orchid frigate]

im sure berry will become one some day

[main brook]

nah

i use vscode

[orchid frigate]

when he gets bored of c#

[hasty bane]

cuz of the resource consumption?

[orchid frigate]

anyways ima go write a bootloader now as all my previous ones sucked

[uneven jacinth]

I mean I understand basic concurrency and scheduling stuff, made a multi queue scheduling module for the Linux kernel, did a little bit with ext2

[orchid frigate]

ah well I havent gotten to this high level thing yet

[hasty bane]

t b f

[uneven jacinth]

A very simple scheduler** only handles a few threads

[hasty bane]

the only reason i use pycharm is cuz my vscode seems to be irreversibly broken

[orchid frigate]

I mainly understand the very low level of things like bootloaders gdts idts and very basic paging very

[uneven jacinth]

Ahh

[hasty bane]

WTF IT UNBROKE ITSELF

[uneven jacinth]

Honestly most of my highest level work is with discord bots and sql server

[orchid frigate]

ah so you are a low level dev if I understand correctly

Very nice I like low level devs

[hoary hound]

I mean discord bots are kinda high level

[orchid frigate]

he said his highest level so I assume he does low level

[uneven jacinth]

Yeah I’m pretty high level lol

[orchid frigate]

oh

[hoary hound]

bruh

[uneven jacinth]

Oh I meant like the best work I do

Not high in that sense of it lol

[orchid frigate]

I dont know man the only thing I have got going for me in terms of energy is a cup of light coffee my brain is working overtime

ok bye

[uneven jacinth]

Pce

[hoary hound]

idk man sleep usually works

[orchid frigate]

I always forget to sleep literally or atleast sleep normally

its 10 pm im working on something and I just say "Ok one more hour and im going to bed"

[uneven jacinth]

And the it’s 4AM all of a sudden?

[orchid frigate]

next thing I know its 2 am and I can barely open my eyes

[orchid frigate]

sometimes yea

[uneven jacinth]

Wonderful

[hoary hound]

I can't go past 2 am

literally

my brain shuts down

[uneven jacinth]

I’ve been trying to fix my sleep schedule so I can perform better in classes during the day

So I’ve been going to sleep around 11-ish

[orchid frigate]

Mine does also but I keep going because I still have that little bug I know how to fix which takes 3 hours to fix

now its 4 am and I can already see the sky getting brighter

or atleast not now its 4 pm now but you get the point

[hoary hound]

you'd solve it in much less time if you'd take a break

[orchid frigate]

I do but at the wrong times

[uneven jacinth]

4pm?? What time zone is that?

[orchid frigate]

in the day I sleep in the night I remember that I have homework for tomorrow

[orchid frigate]

EEST

best timezone for chads

[uneven jacinth]

Nah brah

EST where it’s at

[orchid frigate]

bru

wanna fight

ok 1v1

no scopes irl

nub

[uneven jacinth]

Bet.

[hoary hound]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

come on guys

I got my popcorn

where's the fight

[uneven jacinth]

punch

[orchid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/me-360-no-scoping-you-gif-21887076

[hoary hound]

I thought haydot fell asleep

[orchid frigate]

Im always asleep

[uneven jacinth]

Imagine playing roblox csgo instead of Minecraft csgo

[orchid frigate]

a part of my brain atleast the other half is trying to figuere out why ld cant do its fucking job correctly or why uefi is getting brain damage when running my kernel

[hoary hound]

haydot.sleep()

now go

[orchid frigate]

nah

need to make campfire bootloader

non efi because efi sucks and I hate it

[hoary hound]

you are making a campfire in your brain

and it's burning

[orchid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-16757454

ok but on a serious note dont worry im fine im getting straight 4-5 hours a sleep a day

I would say thats enough

[hoary hound]

spoiler: it's not

[orchid frigate]

shhh lets just say its enough

also done created a bootloader in 13 lines

actually maybe more if we count all the external things which we dont count :)

[hasty bane]

fellow 5hrs of sleep enjoyer

Totally doesnt fuck with your health

[orchid frigate]

nah aslong as I drink coffee im fine

if I dont it does

[main brook]

i sleep at

9pm-3am

and i always wake up at 6

[hasty bane]

7 for me

[barren shale]

5:30

cuz i go to uni at 7

as for sleep i either sleep for 8 hours or 2 hours anything else and ill wake up fucked

[hasty bane]

lmao

sleeping less than 4hrs is barely worth it

[barren shale]

for me sleeping 2 hours is better than 4 hours

idk why

but having 4-7 hours of sleep makes me tired

3-2 or 8-9 is good

[orchid frigate]

Its all about the sleeping schedule that you have

if the body is prepared for 2 hours of sleep so be it but if you change your hours suddenly it doesnt know what to do

I guess idk im not a doctor

[north dune]

you guys sleep?

[knotty root]

why do you have to sleep imagine sleeping big l

[knotty root]

ikr

[cloud solar]

2 is 01 in binary... right?

And three is 11

[north dune]

2 is "10" i think

or else how is 1 shown

3 is "11"

01 = 1
10 = 2
11 = 3
100 = 4

probably the only "useful" thing i retained from electronics class lol

[cloud solar]

Um..... isnt 1, 1

[north dune]

well yeah

1, 01 same thing

[cloud solar]

It is like: 0,1,2,4,8,16,32,64 ect... right?

[north dune]

what is

[cloud solar]

The numbers behind the "0" and "1"

[north dune]

10 = 2
100 = 4
1000 = 8
10000 = 16

1 = 1
01 = 1
001 = 1
0001 = 1

🛩️

[barren shale]

ur mum = fat
ur mum = fat
ur mum = fat

and finally

https://tenor.com/view/your-mom-spy-tf2-team-fortress2-sheesh-gif-21838783

[uneven jacinth]

Seems kind of redundant… assigning a variable multiple times to the same constant…

[orchid frigate]

im about to do a funny

int main(){
  printf("ur mom :)))) :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :))))) >:)))))");
}

I have commited a funny

[severe compass]

Oh no he coded a funny

[main brook]

he spawned a funny code

[strange plume]

110
1001

[next lotus]

cringe

[cloud solar]

[orchid frigate]

I will do it again

This time as a bootloader

[bits 16]
[org 0x7c00]
mov bp, 0x7c00
mov sp, bp
mov bx, message
call printx16
jmp $
message: db 'Your.mom lmao xd lmao lmfao 🤣 🤣', 0
times 510-($-$$) db 0
dw 0xaa55

Assemble this as a binary file and it will run as a bootloader thay says "your mom"

Computers were a mistake

[errant trail]

Your.mom lmao xd lmao lmfao 🤣 🤣*

[main brook]

haydot did the funny again

[orchid frigate]

I will do it

In python

Too

print("Ypur mom is = fat lmao xd lmao xd lmfao xd")

Thats how python works right

Anyways tune in next time for I.will do the funny in rust

[hasty bane]

wtf

;

banned

[main brook]

haydot speedrunning to become the funniest man alive

[orchid frigate]

If I.do this in every language

I will be the funniest.man alive

[hoary hound]

now do it in brainfuck

[orchid frigate]

💀

I will need to practice.the speedrun more for that

Oh.god how will I.do malbolge...

Lets continue.with rust

[hoary hound]

what's up with.writing random.dots

[orchid frigate]

My spacebar is small af

On the phone

And the dot hitbox is huge

fn main(){
    println!("Your mom lmao xd 🤣 😆 xd lmao");
}

[hoary hound]

wtf a function with exclamation mark

what language is that

[orchid frigate]

Rust

The exclamation mark marks it as a macro

[hasty bane]

ayy i got it right :DDDA

[orchid frigate]

Ok so

For my final funny

Atleast for now

I introduce

Uhhhh

C#

How tf did you do c# again?

[rocky night]

Nerds cave

[orchid frigate]

namespace System{
    class Program{
        public static void Main(I dont remember these args){
             Console.Log("Your mom I fucking hate how wordy c# is jesus this took too long to write");
         }
     }
}

[rocky night]

So this is why they say c is hard

[orchid frigate]

Its c#

And c# is easy

Its just unnecessarly wordy

[rocky night]

[barren shale]

that's .NET 5

[rocky night]

Which ones are hard

[orchid frigate]

I have no idea what that means

[barren shale]

in .NET 6 it would be

Console.WriteLine("Your mom I fucking hate how wordy c# is jesus this took too long to write");

[rocky night]

This looks easier

[orchid frigate]

C cpp

I don't agree

But everyone says they are harder

[rocky night]

[orchid frigate]

I think c# is harder just because of how huge and complex it is

[barren shale]

so cpp is less huge and complex than C# ?

[orchid frigate]

Yes

Definitely

And C is the least huge and complex

[hasty bane]

this looks neat

[orchid frigate]

By complex I don't mean easy I mean in terms of features

And syntax

[hasty bane]

hamza do you know how to work with c# with the minimum amount of BLOAT STUFF

like

vs

or

idk

windows

the dreaded Microsoft Product UI is repelling me

[orchid frigate]

https://c.tenor.com/yvub18kkPhQAAAAM/clean-cleaning.gif

Cleaning windows dont mind me

[hasty bane]

you cant clean windows

[barren shale]

yes

just use linq

[hasty bane]

linq

[barren shale]

w0t

[hasty bane]

ok i have read a bit abt linq

thanks comrade

gonna download it later today

inb4 i become c# dev

how horrifying

[main brook]

you do know

C# and linux doesn't go together very well

[orchid frigate]

Yea

Chad linux don't accept no c#

[barren shale]

who said that ?

I've done C# in linux for like a year

the argument that C# is for windows only is super outdated

[next lotus]

git gud nub i run an asp site in centos for 4 years now

[hasty bane]

can confirm that this is how it works

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-say-nicolas-cage-wow-really-no-kidding-gif-5343842

[slow cape]

Is child abuse legal still

[orchid frigate]

Im very sorry what

The fuck did I just read

[barren shale]

Ahh yes as always they got muted

[fallen orchid]

yust do it

[cloud solar]

how to delete system 32?

i mean like a virus

||dont ask||

[barren shale]

Fun Fact: I've deleted system32 once ||(I was a low iq baby hooman)||

[cloud solar]

wheres the pc now?

[barren shale]

its used by my sister

6 years after

[cloud solar]

.__. but when u delete system 32 it just kills the pc

[barren shale]

it doesnt

it just corrupts the windows

you have to install windows again

[cloud solar]

i am almost sure it does

[barren shale]

you will lose everything on the system drive which is C

[barren shale]

deleting files doesnt destroy your pc

[cloud solar]

isnt system32 containg all data for your pc?

i mean opening ect

like all the functions

[barren shale]

yes

but you can install them again

[cloud solar]

so how u open the pc then?

[barren shale]

bios ?

[cloud solar]

||i forgot that even existed lol||

hmm... anyways... how to make the code

even in notepad

just the line

i know it is one simple like

*line

but not sure what one

[barren shale]

RD /S /Q path

RD just removes a directory

/S will remove all branches

/Q will not ask for permission to remove branches

make sure the cmd is ran as administrator

[cloud solar]

||if i wont be responding in a long time u know why||

[orchid frigate]

pretty sure system32 doesnt contain all system data

only the user space data but I may be wrong

because the kernel should be in binary and thus invisible

once again dont quote me on this I could be wrong

[barren shale]

still corrupts windows

[orchid frigate]

yea but atleast windows still has something to...well tell you things are fucked

[barren shale]

you get a bsod

[orchid frigate]

ah so Im guessing a double fault happens

now I want to delete system32 to see what happens

learn about windows copy its design

Or wait that could also be a fault...well same thing

[uneven jacinth]

Honestly don’t know much about what sys32 is responsible for but I honestly don’t see any reason you’d lose anything beyond windows…

Unless re-installing it would force you to wipe whatever drive it’s on

[orchid frigate]

It wouldn't definitely

It would only destroy windows but the rest of the pc will be fine

If thats what you mean

[uneven jacinth]

Yeah

[orchid frigate]

I learned that the hard way

[uneven jacinth]

Like you could easily recover even the files on the drive by just installing it somewhere else and making a backup

Before wiping to reinstall windows

[barren shale]

important dlls

[orchid frigate]

Yea you could move all files from the corrupted windows into a new partition and reinstall windows on corrupted partition and move the files then

I think

If im not missing something

[cloud solar]

it contains basic data- that if deleted can corrupt other data

i think it works that way

[barren shale]

you can just put the harddrive in another pc you know

and just copy the files you want

[uneven jacinth]

That’s what I was saying

[barren shale]

its not basic data

[orchid frigate]

Or use another os on the same pc

Actually im pretty sure a non binary version of the kernel does exist on the pc for updating purposes

[uneven jacinth]

Bruh why is SRE actually hard

[orchid frigate]

Or not idk but I came up with a design for an os with two kernels and I wonder if anyone has used it

Because it seems pretty simple

[cloud solar]

i think it does... i mean looking at the names of the files inside and how they are named i think they are pretty basic data

[barren shale]

it contains the cmd

and most apps that come with windows

and a lot of very important dlls

[cloud solar]

by basic data i ment the data thats very important btw

[orchid frigate]

Arent there many completely hidden files there

[cloud solar]

well yes

[orchid frigate]

Goddamnit I want to look at the windows source code so bad 💀

[barren shale]

there are no hidden files in system32

[cloud solar]

i can try to look for some parts... ||not the hidden onces ofc lol||

[uneven jacinth]

Can’t you unhide hidden files anyway?

[cloud solar]

i think some are hidden

[barren shale]

hiding files in windows is just an effect

[cloud solar]

then it wont make any sense

[barren shale]

to make some folders look cleaner

[orchid frigate]

Well yes but I.mean completely hidden like unreachable in user space

[barren shale]

but you dont need to make system32 look cleaner because you shouldnt be there

[uneven jacinth]

Ohhh

[orchid frigate]

Like read only

[uneven jacinth]

Yeah

[barren shale]

there are no read only files in windows

this is not some apple shit

[cloud solar]

exaple of the file there: xh-ZA .... tf it means btw?

[orchid frigate]

There are definitely read only files...or chucks of code atleast

[barren shale]

localization

[orchid frigate]

Alot of the os doesn't belong in files so

[barren shale]

why would you make something readonly

doesnt make sense

[cloud solar]

u mean?

[barren shale]

languages

[cloud solar]

um... ok

[orchid frigate]

So that it doesnt get corrupted.by someone trying to write to the wrong adress

[barren shale]

when you run anything as administrator it has access to every single file on the pc

[cloud solar]

btw... how do computers simulate randomness?

[barren shale]

search it up

[orchid frigate]

I dont mean files i mean addresses

[barren shale]

if you fuck up with things you shouldnt fuck up with

you deserve to get your system corrupted

[orchid frigate]

Well thats not the point the point some of the os should be read only

Like files that wont ever be updated and changed or data that is constant

For instance the BIOS bootloader of windows should be read only

[uneven jacinth]

I don’t think that’s a very fair statement to make lol

[cloud solar]

"VpnToastIcon" whats that? (in system32)

[orchid frigate]

No way of knowing without without being a windows dev

[barren shale]

not all files in system32 are windows files

[orchid frigate]

Unless you can open the file in hexadecimal view and get an idea of it

[barren shale]

a lot of programs put stuff there

[cloud solar]

well then it doesnt look like windows file at all lol

[barren shale]

sounds like an icon so you just open it with anything

[orchid frigate]

Every time I have tried to open stuff in sys32 I haven't been allowed to

Haven't tried everything but still

[barren shale]

setup your permissions right

[cloud solar]

hmm... thats maybe the fault of strange extensions?

or permission

[orchid frigate]

The entire folder might be permission locked

aight well ima stream some coding because im bored and Im going to be doing boring things so if anyone wants to chat

you know what to do

[cloud solar]

if u will stream i can join

but i wont be able to talk

[orchid frigate]

ok

[cloud solar]

couse i am kinda sleepy

[orchid frigate]

I might not talk aswell

I have written this code so many times at this point

I have memorised it

[cloud solar]

in what language u making it?

[orchid frigate]

Many languages

Currently im doing a makefile so that I can automate the building process, assembly for bootloader and cpp for kernel

[cloud solar]

um ok

||it is so complicated i cant understand a single thing lol||

i am used to c# so thats propably why

[orchid frigate]

Its a makefile they are the most complicated things in the world

Even I dont fully understand I just go with it

Actually

Ima just use a template I.made im too lazy to weite all of this

Ok now I.can actually write code

[cloud solar]

i am now making gui for my game so i will steam it too

[orchid frigate]

Ok

I will.tune in to check it out

[cloud solar]

unfortunately i cant show the code

but ye

[barren shale]

you guys checking each other out now

[orchid frigate]

Yes hamza

We are sharing stuff

We used to do that too

[cloud solar]

@orchid frigate do u think it looks cool?

i mean the gui

[barren shale]

yes i used to look at your bad code

[orchid frigate]

Yea it looks pretty nice

[orchid frigate]

You havent in a while

Come on join in

[barren shale]

busy

[orchid frigate]

Nah

[barren shale]

making some maney

[orchid frigate]

Nah

Come on

[barren shale]

im making 200$ a week

for 4 hours of work

[orchid frigate]

Ok well you can still join

[barren shale]

i have work in 10 mins

[orchid frigate]

Nah

You can join

[barren shale]

for 10 mins

or i can get ready

[orchid frigate]

Getting ready is inferior than joining

[cloud solar]

do u think the panel looks cool?

i mean the one that i made rn

[orchid frigate]

What should the work in progress be

Is it a placeholder or just a message to the team if you are in a team

[cloud solar]

u mean?

[orchid frigate]

The thing that says work in progress

Like is it buttons

[cloud solar]

well imma show

it will be a difficulty level

but me to busy to programm it

[orchid frigate]

What's the game gonna be about

[cloud solar]

lemme know u gameplay

u defend earth

[orchid frigate]

Looks neat

[cloud solar]

there are many buildings

mortars funny lol

this purple black hole too

[orchid frigate]

Mortars acting kinda funny

[cloud solar]

it is powerful but random aim

[orchid frigate]

They dont seem to aim all that well

Ah

Interesting

Are you the only dev or are you in a team

[cloud solar]

i am in a team, tho on this project i work alone

the project is under the team logo tho

and also the music, gui graphics are from team members

couse ye, there is a music

but i dont want to play it now

[orchid frigate]

Ok

[cloud solar]

||i forgot the game was on and i almost died||

i lost

um... there is a bug

the name of the building is colliding with the description

lemme fix it now

now much better

u have any ideas what to add next?

i mean fix

couse i have no time for adding

@orchid frigate

||i will make a short break now btw||

[orchid frigate]

maybe more types of attacking things

more enemies

thats the word

[cloud solar]

i mean more related to gui

and fixing... not adding

[orchid frigate]

ah well

idk

[cloud solar]

well then i am gonna try to think abt something myself

what do u think abt health bar?

[orchid frigate]

its good but maybe its kinda difficult to see

maybe having it somewhere else might be good but thats just my opinion

or making it red

[cloud solar]

i am gonna leave it the way it is now

[orchid frigate]

ok you do you

[cloud solar]

btw i need to end in a sec

[orchid frigate]

ok I will end too

[cloud solar]

cya tomorrow then

[orchid frigate]

cya

[main brook]

in asia, yes, you can slap your child as hard as you can and it'll be called "discipline"

also talk about discipline

my brother university for coding sucks

you all have to follow the same module

and you get graded by how close it is to the module

instead of how they actually understand how it works

also coding job in here is getting weirder and weirder

[hasty bane]

@barren shale hamzer where do i learn c#

pls dont say the microsoft docs pls dont say the microsoft docs

[barren shale]

never learn from docs

docs are for after you learn

I would start with these 1 hour youtube videos

they cover the basics

and then you can either work on getting better by yourself ||(or I can tutor you for $50/hr)||

[next lotus]

microsoft docs

[hasty bane]

okay thank

[errant trail]

a

code

[knotty root]

Assigning app-name into $apps
apps=($(ls /data/data/))

Looping each app

for app in "${apps[@]}"; do

Deleting $app/cache/ contents

rm -rf /data/data/$app/no_backup
rm -rf /data/data/$app/*cache

[orchid frigate]

Ok

[main brook]

no thanks

not all of us has root access

weirdo

[tulip socket]

[next lotus]

imagine not having root access

[cloud solar]

Imagine still having system32

[next lotus]

imagine having system32

linux gang

[cloud solar]

[orchid frigate]

linux is

in fact

superior

this post was made by linux gang

[cloud solar]

Btw... will u be able to stream today too?

Couse i maybe will be able to

And i will need some opinions abt gui

[orchid frigate]

I will

I am also able to do it now if you want to

[cloud solar]

Maybe in like 1 hour... or 35 mins

Or 45

Not sure

[orchid frigate]

ok

[uneven jacinth]

I might be more willing to side with Linux if its kernel documentation was anything more than having to read through the source code

[latent glacier]

hello

[cloud solar]

@orchid frigate what abt in 1 hour?

couse i have to eat something

and do some other work

[orchid frigate]

I cant

I have some stuff at 6:30 and I need to prepare

After that I will be able to do anything after 9

btw its 5:30 now

[raw notch]

Hi

[main brook]

android

[cloud solar]

anyone wanna see me making ui for a game?

[tulip socket]

[cloud solar]

it means yes?

[tulip socket]

[cloud solar]

it means no?

[tulip socket]

[cloud solar]

it means...

[tulip socket]

🇷🇺 🇧🇾 👧🏿 😭 🍑 🍆 🇦🇱 👴🏿 😌

[cloud solar]

[tulip socket]

🇷🇺 🇧🇾 👧🏿 😭 🍑🍆 🇦🇱 👴🏿 😌

[cloud solar]

can u please stop?

[tulip socket]

ok

[cloud solar]

does it mean yes or no?

[tulip socket]

yes

[cloud solar]

so u wanna watch the stream

[tulip socket]

good bay

[cloud solar]

me braining to small to understandable

[tulip socket]

good bay

[cloud solar]

u mean?

[tulip socket]

sorry

?

[cloud solar]

u know, if u dont want to answer then #🌎general

@orchid frigate can u stream now?

or watch my stream

i just started streamin

[tulip socket]

I don't understand English well

[cloud solar]

it will be a stream, so no talking

i will just stream the screen, u know.. to get some opinions

[tulip socket]

I won't watch the stream

[wet girder]

I can join for 10-20 mins @cloud solar

[cloud solar]

ok

[cloud solar]

what do u think abt this gui i will show?

[wet girder]

looks quite damn good

[cloud solar]

thanks

i was making the game for over 2 months

[wet girder]

damn

quite a long time

[cloud solar]

yep...

btw now i am gonna change the screen to see my code

[wet girder]

I gtg, my friends are calling me for some reason

[tulip socket]

🇷🇺 🇧🇾 👧🏿 😭 🍑 🍆 🇦🇱 👴🏿 😌

[cloud solar]

sure

[cloud solar]

bruh u fr?

[wet girder]

stop

[cloud solar]

@soft flame i unfortunately need to end now... what do u think abt the game anyways

?

[soft flame]

couldn't see well, video quality was shit for me

[cloud solar]

uh...sure

[orchid frigate]

I just came back

Will be free in 30-40 minutes

[cloud solar]

I need an 45 mins or so to continue the streamin

[cloud solar]

Or like maybe a bit more😅

[orchid frigate]

omg

trying to search for info about multiboot2 memory map is driving me insane

I cannot find anything useful

[cloud solar]

@orchid frigate can u stream now?

i mean i will too

[orchid frigate]

uhh yea sure @cloud solar

might have to leave for 20 mins in half an hour tho

[cloud solar]

ok

[orchid frigate]

my stream is pretty nice its basically me having a breakdown over C and assembly being shit together

@cloud solar check out my stream im having a programming breakdown

[cloud solar]

gonna check it in a sec..

i have no idea whats goin on here...

[orchid frigate]

basically

[cloud solar]

it is too complicated

[orchid frigate]

im trying to get a value from assembly to c and it works

but when comparing it to itself it says its different?!?!?

so now I have no idea if its actually ok or not

[cloud solar]

hmm... is there anything like c docs?

like unity documentation but for c

[orchid frigate]

Yes but its all std

Im working without std because I use a cross compiler for independent os

[cloud solar]

hm...

[orchid frigate]

what im gessing is its comparing hexadecimal to decimal and something somewthing its stupid

[cloud solar]

coplicated problem... i am not sure if i am able to help

[orchid frigate]

i didnt really want help I just wanted you to check out my programming rage lmao

[cloud solar]

the way c is made is just too complicated for me

like it is almost random words

[orchid frigate]

atleast now I know its the same value so they are transferred sorta well

[orchid frigate]

its simpler than c#

100 times more

no oop

but im using c++ which is the same with oop but I dont use oop at all

almost at all

[cloud solar]

then i am not sure if i am smart that i understand c#, or dumb that i dont understand c

lol

[orchid frigate]

nah man dont underestimate you if you are able to make games you are really good

what im doing is uselessly overcomplicated and stupid

and noone does it anymore

[cloud solar]

well... the games i made are not that complicated... and spoiler: i am in 7 grade so thats maybe why i dont understand c

it is frustrating not to understand that simple language tho

[orchid frigate]

c is the same as c#

with less features

so a bit more difficult

and also low level af so that adds to the dificulty

but what im working on currently is easly my biggest project to date

I really like how it turned out but these 10-15 files took me....way too fucking long to make

each file took probably 2-3 months for about 50-100 lines of code

I get why noone does this it is not even close to being productive nor good

[cloud solar]

i learned how to program in unity in like 1 year(not counting month breaks between it) so it is not that bad... i hope lol

but really the most important part of learning unity was last 3 months

[orchid frigate]

I did unity before too

it was really fun

but I have always wanted, even before I started coding, to make my very own os but always said to myself that its an impossible task

and it is kinda

but then I started going lower and lower level and I somehow ended up here

making stupid things that someone can make on a high level language for minutes

[cloud solar]

own os is fun... i have never understood how to make it tho

[orchid frigate]

starting off is like learning how to program for a second time

everything that you know rn? throw it out the window its useless because just to compile the os you need atleast 20 commands

and then the actual code is usually written in assembly or C++ but its the difficult part of c++

that sometimes feels more difficult than assembly

pointers and shit its awful

I kinda wish I stayed in unity

but also nah this is kinda fun once you solve the seemingly impossible problem

alright ima let you work now

[cloud solar]

sure

[orchid frigate]

nah fuck this this is hell im doing something else

C has no idea whats going on

[cloud solar]

[orchid frigate]

this is a good time to check out whats inside the system volume information folders in windows partitions

ok im starting to get scared of corrupting my windows

[cloud solar]

when programmer doesn't have anything to do searching files best idea

[orchid frigate]

yes unless those files are ones that windows intentionally doesnt allow you to see or even to know they exist

last time I did something like this I had to reinstall

why is everything I do so stupid lmao

[cloud solar]

unless u dont uninstall cmd or something like thats its good

[orchid frigate]

im searching for problems

[orchid frigate]

its partition data

on the main partition with boot info and system32

its me poking a bear with a stick

but damn my drive is full never even realised

[cloud solar]

my c drive has 2.46 gb left

so it is kinda bad..

[orchid frigate]

hmmm I managed to find the windows powershell folder I dont recall if you can see this in windows

[cloud solar]

||uninstall it||

[orchid frigate]

I got a copy of it

so I could

oh wait I found something interesting

[cloud solar]

i need to end streaming, i can watch your stream tho

can u try to locate cmd?

and... delete it..

or... maybe not

[orchid frigate]

ok

[cloud solar]

btw... where is cmd exe file?

[orchid frigate]

good question

lets find it

do you know xml?

[cloud solar]

couse my path for just ICON is:

C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

hm.... i know the name from somewhere...

[orchid frigate]

ok well powershell folder was useless

and boring

lets find something more interesting

[cloud solar]

what abt find where the .... bios is?

[orchid frigate]

you cant

[cloud solar]

||nvm dumb idea||

[orchid frigate]

its on ROM on a chip

its not an os file

[cloud solar]

i ment the connection between harwear-bios-windows

[orchid frigate]

ah the bootloader

[cloud solar]

it must have a connection... right?

[orchid frigate]

well

yes? no? what do you mean by connection

[cloud solar]

not sure whats that

i mean the bootloader

[orchid frigate]

legacy BIOS has absolutely nothing to help the system outside of 16 bit real and the os exits that quite early

the new UEFI supplies the os with many things throught its entire existance

the bootloader is responsible for passing control from the BIOS to the kernel

and getting some info and giving it to the kernel

[cloud solar]

oh... is it like a file?

[orchid frigate]

legacy BIOS? not visible

at all

its placed in the first sector of memory and its all binary so its invisible

to the user

[cloud solar]

i mean the kernel

[orchid frigate]

the kernel.. matters the design

but alot of it is also invisible as its binary gibarish

[cloud solar]

||i will act like i know what u mean||

[orchid frigate]

its like computer code

that cant really be put on a file

[cloud solar]

i know whats binary

[orchid frigate]

but EFI kernels are visible

in fact

[cloud solar]

so... is there any way to find them?

[orchid frigate]

I can show you the windows bootloader

[cloud solar]

[orchid frigate]

look at my stream

[cloud solar]

ok

[orchid frigate]

ok I forgot where it is

[hoary hound]

epic

haydot stream

[cloud solar]

[orchid frigate]

YOOOO

EXPLORER.EXE

I have an awful idea

its really bad

[cloud solar]

wait... i thought it was illegal

[orchid frigate]

...I could try to run it through wine

[cloud solar]

uh... if i am thinking the same as u think please dont do this

its a war crime

[cloud solar]

[hoary hound]

what's wine

[orchid frigate]

its a way to run windows executables on linux

should I

for science

[hoary hound]

who the heck talked in vc

do it

for science

[cloud solar]

i agree

[orchid frigate]

im sacred tho

scared*

[cloud solar]

||what can possibly go wrong?||

[hoary hound]

do it, what's the worse that could happen

[orchid frigate]

corruption

of many things

[hoary hound]

well damn

[cloud solar]

seems like a fun thing

[hoary hound]

can't you do it in a vm