maybe ill let it run for 1000 matches so it would be less random
#⌨coders-cave
barren shale
bold rover
TIME TO RELEASE BOT V2
Did it win yet?
barren shale
it won 7 games out of 8
but that's the same score of the V1 in its first 8 games
it needs to play more games before we know the real score of it
okeh it won its 9th game
its doing pretty good ngl
okey its better
but not that much
still losing games because of stupid things
bold rover
That's still impressive tho!
main brook
Mr Stark, i don't feel so good. Did you unlaugh thanos when he snap
barren shale
That's still impressive tho!
yeah 
its mostly finding the right settings
the strategy seems good
but the settings need tuning
barren shale
omg
its actually doing very good
i just looked at its score
and it reached 1k :OOO
v1 is stull stuck at 890
wet girder
V2 is still better so isn't that all that matters lol
I can't install Visual Studio on my school laptop as I don't have admin perms on this :(
I think I am gonna message the help desk and see if they can get it for me as I study software development
barren shale
V2 is still better so isn't that all that matters lol
yea i just expected more out of it
like the good dad i am
wet girder
lol
barren shale
im working on V3
i made it super aggressive and its destroying V2
wow
making is aggressive seems to be very good
bold rover
im working on V3
Goodluck!
barren shale
:OOO
bold rover
Wish You beat people ass bots to
bold rover
Yey! Always happy to support
wet girder
what does the bot even play?
wet girder
ooh nice
orchid frigate
Coding is basically screaming at a screen for a few hours
knotty root
If you were to put a code here, will it run?
orchid frigate
No
How would it run
If its a high level language yoy need a compiler to run code
For a low level language you need an assembler
Which discord doesnt have
main brook
you messed up
bold rover
you messed up
What happened to your account lol
bold rover
Ah...
main brook
so yeah
barren shale
25 games of V1 vs V3
guess who won
lets try 25 of V2 vs V3
quite good
some tweaking and now it destroyed V2 so hard
RELEASE TIME :OOOO
after a bit of testing ofc
bold rover
Nice!
barren shale
okeh
bot seems to be doing well
time FOR REALASE
ofc first upload fails
as always
literally always
imagine it loses its first match
i would cry
:X
okeh it won its first game
barren shale
:OOOOOOOOOO
V3 is already 1k
never lost a match
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOO
it lost its first match :(
oh its lost cuz of randomness
okeh it lost again
barren shale
buts its doing alright
sustaining the 1k score
V2 got to 1k then fell down to 950-930
V3 is getting to the 980-1030
bold rover
V3 is getting to the 980-1030
You should try to make V3 compete with V3
barren shale
it would be just a 50 50
orchid frigate
@barren shale hi hamza
barren shale
ello
shy scarab
Hamza is almost like Yeet but better
shy scarab
bold rover
it would be just a 50 50
Ah,ow not ML?
bold rover
Ow, That's honestly works well to :o, You're really smart to be honest
barren shale
ty 
i might try to use a genetic algorithim
to get the best rating settings for the resource cluster rating
i have to rate every resource cluster and then make untis go to the best one
maybe for V4 :O
barren shale
Genetic algorthim incoming
_0 is the default settings
the rest are random
wtf
wtf
wtf
the default settings are not even winning
WHAT
my default settings are bad
i thought every other setting would be very bad since they are random
turns out i got some good random numbers
orchid frigate
Underlines make me sick
orchid frigate
turns out i got some good random numbers
Good rng pog
barren shale
turns out its rng
and the default settings went back to the top
currently doing the second generation
orchid frigate
Me when good rng
https://c.tenor.com/mfe3zlV4uZUAAAAM/ron-clark-academy-jaycob.gif
high surge
hi
plush gate
Coding haram
hasty bane
coding halal
sharp void
ooa ooa aha\
wet girder
I wonder if there will be hacktoberfest this year
oh wait is it already October
It is
shit I'm late to it again
I'mma do some research and try and do 4 hacktoberfest prs this month
bold rover
...
barren shale
@knotty root #🤖bot-commands
ionic trellis
Im going to switch from pascal to c++, any tips?
hasty bane
you're insane
barren shale
Im going to switch from pascal to c++, any tips?
both are bad
go with C#
its THE WAY
jk
if you dont have a reason to switch and are just bored
dont switch
that's my tip
cuz you will go back to pascal after realizing that you have no experince in c++ and you have a lot in pascal
ionic trellis
Idk, the for loops seem more convenient than pascal
tropic dagger
Wow Hamza saying something other than C# good everything else bad.
What a character arc.
barren shale
Idk, the for loops seem more convenient than pascal
that's not a reason to switch or not
barren shale
SNAKE AI WITH REINFORCEMENT LEARNING
HELL YEA
SNEEEKKKK
LEARNING GOES BRRRRRRRRRRRR
barren shale
RL is when you dont have the data
you let the agent play the game and gather data
and learn from it
hasty bane
i use python
haHAA
barren shale
cringe ikr
hasty bane
no
barren shale
yes
hasty bane
no
elder shore
yes
bold rover
and learn from it
That's ML
Or im missing something, You're doing RL in a different approach
barren shale
reinforcement learning is machine learning
reinforcement learning is a type of machine learning
reinforcement learning is when you let an agent play and learn from playing
barren shale
what
what
does none know what rl means
Reinforcement learning (RL) is an area of machine learning concerned with how intelligent agents ought to take actions in an environment in order to maximize the notion of cumulative reward.[1] Reinforcement learning is one of three basic machine learning paradigms, alongside supervised learning and unsupervised learning.
you put the agent in the game
when it does good you give it a reward
when it does bad you give it a punishment (negative reward)
it learns
by trying to maximize the reward
if snake eats apple or get close to apple
reward
if snake hits a wall or get away from the apple
punishment
snake learns
even a first grader would understand
elder shore
No
bold rover
RL is part of ML, and This rewarding and punishing the agent/system Can be both RL and ML
The way hamza word it earlier
sly tide
Нi
barren shale
RL is part of ML, and This rewarding and punishing the agent/system Can be both ...
rewarding and punishing is the meaning of RL
so it cant be ML
tropic dagger
what is it
An elite group of people who speak in a strange code. If you don't understand what we're saying then it's best that you stay away. Bad things happen when you start understanding.
wet girder
@faint sierra #💡game-suggestions
everyone in this channel is just a random guy who sits on their computer for way too luch
faint sierra
I’m just asking can u add it
wet girder
Jus keep it on topic. In here we talk about programming. #🌎general is gor general discussion and #🌋worldbox-chat is dor WorldBox discussion for example discussing ideas
You can also do ~vote suggestionhere to suggest something to be added to the game
wet girder
I don't, Maxim and mastef do
wet girder
You can suggest it the way I explained above. They're both very busy people
faint sierra
Oh
barren shale
Or they just gon say no to my suggestion
every game dev will eventually run out of ideas and that's when suggestions come to hand
they may or may not read them
but it doesnt hurt to suggest
knotty root
<:aye:834675901999480873>
slow marten
Possibility to assign traits of all kinds in the game (for example, like the blessing).
For this it would only need an extra menu. It would be very useful - especially for iOS players and would allow much more intervention.
barren shale
Possibility to assign traits of all kinds in the game (for example, like the ble...
if this is a suggestion then suggest it using the command and do not type it here
this channel is only for coding/programming related topics as the topic of this room says
knotty root
Who knows python coding language 🐍? (Even if is a little bit (like me lol))
leaden nimbus
Who knows how to solve the error when starting unity 2019.2.11f1_5f859a4cfee5
barren shale
Who knows python coding language 🐍? (Even if is a little bit (like me lol))
everyone
wet girder
Who knows how to solve the error when starting unity 2019.2.11f1_5f859a4cfee5
You should just google that
frail sinew
Who knows how to solve the error when starting unity 2019.2.11f1_5f859a4cfee5
I don’t think there is a way to fix that error
quaint needle
You guys really need better catchphrases (auto ones) for world box's kingdoms -_-
Like these
Bread is the way"
With body we go"
And
Hold my bread"
Nah just kidding
They're funny and I keep them for fun
tropic dagger
You guys really need better catchphrases (auto ones) for world box's kingdoms -_...
"Abandon pain, destroy fear, forever updog"
Also go to #🌋worldbox-chat with that.
orchid frigate
Why tf do people read "hmmm coders cave" and think "yea lets talk about worldbox suggestions in here"
Also @barren shale how is rust going
orchid frigate
Did you not like the language
knotty root
I only know assembly c++ and whatever knowledge i have left on c#
Is it a dificulte coding language? (The c++ and the c#)
orchid frigate
Nope
I would say they are actually pretty easy
If i can code in them anyone can
That being said, it really matters difficult for what
You see, these languages are kinda low level(atleast c++)
Meaning doing anything in them is harder then in other languages
And you will have to learn pointers for cpp which is...not fun
tropic dagger
Is it a dificulte coding language? (The c++ and the c#)
Indeed. The learning curve is pretty high. You'll probably be doing a lot of research and learning lots of terminology and use-cases before you really get the hang of it, but it can be very rewarding upon doing so. What C++ lacks in simplicity, it easily makes up for in speed and customizability.
Assembly is even harder than C++ but is even faster and even more customizable... at a non-proportional rate. Assembly is incredibly, ungodly difficult, so it's best to start with something else.
deft anvil
how much coding do i need to learn to make a mod
hushed warren
🤷♂️
orchid frigate
Indeed. The learning curve is pretty high. You'll probably be doing a lot of res...
Eh
Assembly aint that hard
If you read about it you should be fine
What is hard is memorising every BIOS interupt there is
Which is, indeed ungodly difficult
And then realising that you can only use them in 16 bit real mode 🥲
So you gotta make drivers now
And there is no documentation
Everything is unfinished and has been fir 20 fucking years
wet girder
how much coding do i need to learn to make a mod
Not a lot if you get help and have motivation but I'd recommend to know how Unity works and basics of C# as minimum
orchid frigate
But anyway i actually came here to complain about web development being too popular
So now that i have done that, im out
barren shale
how much coding do i need to learn to make a mod
#🔧modding-talk probably they would know
tropic dagger
Assembly aint that hard
Assembly is literally the lowest level you can go. At least with C/C++ you can use them as a high level language (and it's kind of a goal if you're going to make large projects). With assembly, you're forced to work at the lowest level of abstraction constantly. It's draining as hell. Even a simple console "Hello, World!" is involved as fuck. Even C, which doesn't support OOP and is still low level, has an easy hello world program.
In most things, difficulty is subjective, but with assembly, stuff gets different.
Learning assembly is like taking AP Calc and you haven't even completed Elementary School.
Nothing can prepare you enough for Assembly.
barren shale
Learning assembly is like taking AP Calc and you haven't even completed Elementa...
i dont think learning assembly is so hard
its just using it
takes a lot of time
to do little things
orchid frigate
Assembly is literally the lowest level you can go. At least with C/C++ you can u...
Its fun as all hell tho
Like im actually thinking of not using c for a kernel
But doing it straight from assembly if possible
Its not going to be very different either way so
orchid frigate
Nothing can prepare you enough for Assembly.
Thankfully i have prepared
My strategy to learning something new is to re-write it over and over until i dont start understanding it
Make progress get stuck rewrite repeat
Slow but effective
orchid frigate
Assembly is literally the lowest level you can go. At least with C/C++ you can u...
Hello world doesn't really exist in assembly
Yea you can use the VGA buffer or the BIOS interupt if you are still in real mode but its not really worth it
God i wish i could make an os in 16 bit mode and not have to worry about drivers 🥲
So much easier
hasty bane
my mans working on templeOS2?
tropic dagger
I want an environment to run my assembly before I start trying to write an OS.
Unfortunately that just isn't an option for me right now.
So I'm gonna stick with C/C++.
But I do plan on learning assembly because I think it's interesting.
it is pretty interesting
woven snow
Coders Cave
bold rover
Yes
knotty root
Hi
tropic dagger
Hello.
floral cradle
Yum
spring yoke
Yooooooooooo
keen shell
exotic vessel
Ah yes..... the nerd cave
barren shale
The lair of people who have alot of pacience
with stooopid people like you who cant spell
woven snow
with stooopid people like you who cant spell
shy scarab
Lmao
orchid frigate
the only reason I wanna make an os is learning
it's pretty interesting if you actually read about it
and who knows maybe os development will be a pretty big thing in the future
knotty root
How to make a pole
barren shale
and who knows maybe os development will be a pretty big thing in the future
os development
big thing
like hardware development
required years of work to get to this stage
that's why you dont see any other companies make CPUs like AMD and Intel
cuz they dont know how
that's why im saying
its unpractical
orchid frigate
cuz they dont know how
I feel like that isn't the problem
If you wanna do something, you will learn how to do it
knotty root
I'm also curious if there is any plan for apple silicon support in the future for MacOS
orchid frigate
Tbh i dont know but the devs are probably working on it
knotty root
Yea because they use unity
And if they're making changes to the code it might be worthwhile to transition to the universal or Apple silicon architecture
orchid frigate
If you wanna do something, you will learn how to do it
As i was saying, the main reason is probably that its not needed for a new company to make CPUs because there are already companies doing it
Which sucks
knotty root
Is anyone on the server in direct contact with the developers or no
orchid frigate
And if they're making changes to the code it might be worthwhile to transition t...
I wonder how do you make a game be compatible with different OSs in unity
You don't have access to the graphics API so its going to be real difficult without it
knotty root
I wonder how do you make a game be compatible with different OSs in unity
Well it's a translation language
Made by apple
orchid frigate
Is anyone on the server in direct contact with the developers or no
Me
knotty root
So you code in one place and it works across multiple platforms
knotty root
Pog
orchid frigate
So you code in one place and it works across multiple platforms
Yea i get it but the graphics API is problematic, different APIs support different OSs
knotty root
Oh I see
orchid frigate
Metal for apple, opengl for... everything and vulkan for everything kinda
knotty root
Well apples going to end Intel support sooner or later, so they're going to have to figure out something
Or just drop the Mac platform altogether
I mean that would be a very long time into the future
knotty root
Metal for apple, opengl for... everything and vulkan for everything kinda
Vulkan seems like a promising platform
orchid frigate
Yea the problem is
knotty root
I mean... we'll see what happens
orchid frigate
Its stupidity difficult
knotty root
Yea
orchid frigate
Compared to its older relative opengl
And you have to make all the compatibility code yourself
knotty root
Wow
See the thing is, I have the M1 macbook air
And everything in world box has to run through Rosetta 2
Since it's the Intel architecture
And it has to actively translate the code
knotty root
No it's a built in tool made by Apple to run Intel apps on Apple silicon
For all M1 devices
orchid frigate
Ah i get it
knotty root
Do any Y'all watch WWDC?
orchid frigate
Haven't really touched anything apple so idk much about it
orchid frigate
Do any Y'all watch WWDC?
Not me
knotty root
Is it OK if I spend time explaining or would you like me to leave it
If I'm being annoying
knotty root
So apple last year
Announced that Apple would transition Intel to their own custom architecture on their Mac platform
They had been making their own custom chips etc for 10 years at that point
For the iPad and iPhone
orchid frigate
They really wanna be independent huh
orchid frigate
I see many problems with that
knotty root
And Intel has kinda been garbage for a couple years due to failing promises
knotty root
I see many problems with that
Explain
orchid frigate
Firstly this is a very new thing so at first there arent going to be many different models
knotty root
At the beginning yea
orchid frigate
Which will make customisation very difficult
For the user
Idk how mac computers work but I imagine you can change parts
knotty root
So there's already 4 macs that are powered by the M1
Which is apples own chip
Apples been making it harder and harder to change parts within the Mac for years now
It's kinda like iPhone at this point
Which sucks
knotty root
Because then the parts are Integrated better
Well ppl that buy Mac because they have to
For final cut and all the professionals
orchid frigate
One part breaks you have to change entire pc and buy a mac again
So you switch to something different
Noones gonna wanna keep buying a new pc every time
orchid frigate
Well ppl that buy Mac because they have to
Oh
knotty root
Sorry
orchid frigate
Well that just seems evil from mac
knotty root
I had to talk
knotty root
I'm back now
orchid frigate
Oh you meant..ok
knotty root
Yea so
orchid frigate
I misunderstood you
knotty root
It's also a preference thing
Most people like Mac because of its software
Their hardware used to be superior
Like 10 years ago
orchid frigate
Yea macOS is pretty good from what i have heard
knotty root
But not anymore
orchid frigate
On the level of linux
knotty root
Yea macOS is pretty good from what i have heard
The files system is so much better
knotty root
Any file system is better than windows
orchid frigate
Or on anything other then windows
orchid frigate
But os installation has been scaring me alot
knotty root
Is because of battery life
The M1 is the highest power per watt chip the in the market. Period
Not the most powerful
Just the most efficient
And on top of that, apple can now optimize macos for their own chips
Because they control more of the computer
orchid frigate
Makes sense
knotty root
Well it seems like they are keeping their promise
Yea
But looking back to the past
Apple switched from PowerPc to Intel in 2005
And they had the original Rosetta translation
And that ended 3 years after it was announced
orchid frigate
Hi jupe
knotty root
So I imagine apple will do the same thing with Rosetta 2
wet girder
Wtf, new member who talks in #⌨coders-cave and doesn't call literally everyone else amateurs for no fuckin reason. Holy shit this is too good to be true
knotty root
Good day jupe
orchid frigate
Wtf, new member who talks in <#816684347071135774> and doesn't call literally ev...
I really enjoyed the conversations with mr. Bit
knotty root
Thanks
wet girder
true lmao
it's still nice to have people who actually appreciate tech and programming
orchid frigate
@knotty root btw thats a guy from a few weeks ago he was really..."good"
knotty root
I never come into this server lol
wet girder
Now you're here tho
knotty root
I mean I literally just came to level 3
wet girder
Anyway, what were you guys talking about?
knotty root
Yea I was kind of giving a history lesson
About Macintosh computers
And recent events
And development for them
orchid frigate
It was a really enjoyable conversation
wet girder
I kinda like what apple is becoming. They just need to be more environmentally friendly and atleast let people repair their shit
orchid frigate
Yea i haven't touched anything apple but I know macOS is pretty good
And if the os is good im happy
But im starting to hate windows more and more
orchid frigate
I wish i could switch
But im way too scared to touch my pc in such a way atm
Asked every technician in the city about the graphics problem and all of them told me to fuck off
In a kinder way
wet girder
I'd change to some Linux distro, probably Arch as my main OS but I need windows for school
I do have my laptop with windows tho
so maybe I could
but I'm just not sure if all my games would run on Linux
orchid frigate
If i switched it would be to kali
orchid frigate
It has alot of cyber security tools
wet girder
that's literally the worst idea ever
orchid frigate
Why
wet girder
Use it on a VM or something like raspberry pi
wet girder
Why?
orchid frigate
Can't turn on cpu virtualization
wet girder
Well that's problematic
orchid frigate
Whenever i enter uefi firmware settings my monitor looses connection
Or any bios type settings
That's also why i cant switch
Stuck in windows 😔
But actually...i could try emulation
wet girder
Change to motherboard while you change bios settings
orchid frigate
Hdmi port for gpu may be broken so im forced to plug to motherboard
wet girder
Well that's another problem
orchid frigate
Many problems but in reality i just realized
I dont need a vm
I have an emulator
And alot of experience in it
Qemu is amazing
wet girder
wet girder
You can't really use the tools on emulators though
As they're not connected to any internet connection
wet girder
heya
orchid frigate
As they're not connected to any internet connection
Right
knotty root
I kinda like what apple is becoming. They just need to be more environmentally f...
Apple is planning to be carbon neutral by 2030
orchid frigate
So thats a problem for the future
knotty root
But yeah I agree on the repairing part
wet girder
Apple is planning to be carbon neutral by 2030
fuck no they aren't. You can't just dump money to some charity and call yourself carbon neutral like every company does
orchid frigate
Good thing i have yet to make the internet driver or whatever its called because i would have been hard stuck in qemu
knotty root
I mean they do show you their plan. I've read all of it and it looks a but more legit
Than that
wet girder
Well I'm doubtful but also hopeful
knotty root
I can send link
Actually nah I get what you're saying
Why can't I send files in #🤡memes
Do I have to be higher level
wet girder
I don't really see apple as being the good guy in any situation. They just try to make more money like they're legally obligated to. So I'm doubtful but I also hope they'll keep the promise
wet girder
Do I have to be higher level
ye, you need to be level 10 as you can see from #💬role-info
orchid frigate
I don't really see apple as being the good guy in any situation. They just try t...
Money sucks you can't have or do anything special and good because of it
knotty root
I don't really see apple as being the good guy in any situation. They just try t...
Yea
At the end of the day they care more about profit
If it gets in the way of that I can imagine them not doing it
Like every company
wet girder
Ye, I wanted to be entrepreneur before I realized money means nothing to me as long as I can live. I'd rather make some non profit ethical hacking stuff
knotty root
"Ethical hacking"?
orchid frigate
I wanna be an os dev but... noone wants os devs
wet girder
Like every company
Publicly traded companies are legally obligated to make money and try to increase their makings
orchid frigate
I cant work anywhere
wet girder
"Ethical hacking"?
It's like good hacking basically
knotty root
Publicly traded companies are legally obligated to make money and try to increas...
Exactly
orchid frigate
Ok but who you hacking?
Hacking your companies's defence
orchid frigate
To see where its vulnerable
knotty root
Oh so cybersecurity
hasty bane
cyber security is pretty cool
knotty root
Yea it's pretty pog
wet girder
Oh so cybersecurity
cyber security also includes illegal hacking
knotty root
So if you were to do that who would employ you
hasty bane
wet girder
or unethical hacking or cracking or whatever you like to call it
knotty root
A private company or government
hasty bane
jupe do be hackering
wet girder
A private company or government
Both would be interested probably. Cyber security is heavily underemployed currently
knotty root
jupe do be hackering
We do a little hacking
hasty bane
indeed
im pretty interested in cyber security since i kinda wanna do web stuff
and i want my web stuff to not die immediately
wet girder
I wanna get PhD in cyber security lol
hasty bane
orchid frigate
Im so fucking angry at html, css and all other web stuff
hasty bane
pretty nice
wet girder
Im so fucking angry at html, css and all other web stuff
I like it ngl
orchid frigate
I tried learning it, instantly dropped it
wet girder
js is not nice tho
wet girder
fair
orchid frigate
It does too much for me to like it, i like doing everything from scratch
wet girder
It does too much for me to like it, i like doing everything from scratch
good luck ever making any money lol
orchid frigate
Why does more work make less money nowadays 😔
wet girder
in programming, the lazier you are, the more money you make
I'm coding this website for school which I'd really love to share but it is my actual CV as website form so I really can't
hasty bane
rip
orchid frigate
if anyone's got better names for these files, im interested in hearing them as i cant figuere out good names
orchid frigate
in programming, the lazier you are, the more money you make
true
programming laziness: instead of writing a 2 letter word in the terminal you press up 50 times to get to the point in which you used that word
keen shell
if anyone's got better names for these files, im interested in hearing them as i...
What's this about?
You could make BOOTSECT shorter with BS
And then I'd make it look a bit better by removing caps but keeping the first letter capitalized while removing the second "_"
Example: BS_KernelEntry.asm
Or just completely remove bootsect if it's unimportant
If the file extension is important you could also include it in the name,
BS_Bin
Then make everything else have first letter capitalized (Just own preference lol)
And make each file directly understandable on first look.
Didn't give any new name because I don't know what the files are but hope it helps
barren shale
You could make BOOTSECT shorter with BS
And then I'd make it look a bit better b...
bullshit
keen shell
I just knew it
orchid frigate
You could make BOOTSECT shorter with BS
And then I'd make it look a bit better b...
oh damn thats not a bad idea
the BS_KernelEntry.asm
orchid frigate
The only reason i need bootsect in the name is not to confuse the file with kernel files
keen shell
Your idea was to change BOOTSEC to BULLSHIT <:Thonk:535178385312448523>
oooooh lmfao I noticed that at first but didn't when hamza said it
orchid frigate
Your idea was to change BOOTSEC to BULLSHIT <:Thonk:535178385312448523>
i mean, bootsector and bullshit isnt that much different
wet girder
lmao
Ngl BS isn't actually bad naming. It's still fairly understandable if you understand kernels and it's short enough to not make every name so damn long
orchid frigate
i like it cuz its short
my names are way too long
making it even more difficult to run the damn thing than it is usually
and running this is....really really hard
every time i make any change i need to run 6 different commands
orchid frigate
and they have to be in a specific order
orchid frigate
ngl I don't even know how kernels work
kernels are awful to test
because assembly doesnt really link with C
keen shell
my names are way too long
makes me think of this
Could have been shorter but I was in fear of forgetting what it'd mean
orchid frigate
so you need an:
1.compiler
2.linker
3.assembler(for making kernelEntry.asm to kernelEntry.o, same for bootsect.asm)
4."cat" to link both kernel.bin and bootsect.bin
orchid frigate
makes me think of this
those are some long ass names ngl
orchid frigate
oh wait a little note
wet girder
They could be longer if they wrote info as information
orchid frigate
the assembler also makes kernel.o to kernel.bin, same for bootsect.asm but it goes straight from asm to bin
orchid frigate
They could be longer if they wrote info as information
i did that once, no
its awful
especially without any auto-correct
orchid frigate
i use tabnine but everything is worthless for me
noone does auto-correct for assembly
and the C auto-correct is...near to none
but the boot sector is actually very small
maybe 150-200 lines at most
actually...mine is 100
total
idk why i said that, i just noticed that and thought it was interesting
orchid frigate
just entered an os development servers and got absolutely flexed at
people are insane at creating operating systems
but now that i think about it, it could have just been linux distros....
wet girder
99% sure they make Linux distros or something based on Unix
barren shale
makes me think of this
these are pretty good
orchid frigate
99% sure they make Linux distros or something based on Unix
Understandable, making a linux distribution is much easier then an OS from scratch
I dont even know how im going to be making graphical stuff
I guess i will just use an API as usual
gentle steeple
wo our first mobile game is moving along crazy fast
granted its essentially a jam
tropic dagger
@mental jacinth move the definition of startingscreen() to above the rest of the text.
It's probably giving a symbol not defined error.
barren shale
no its not
barren shale
this code doesnt make sense
but to fix it
you need to add :
after the if started == true
so it would be
if started == true:
break
dont forget to add 4 spaces before break
barren shale
Я єбал вас в рот
only english here
you can go to #✈international-chat or go to #817762451293470730
orchid frigate
well
attempted to install manjaro
broke the shit out of my usb
with it ended up being unusable
there goes 30 bucks
im never EVER reinstalling again not on this potato pc with possibly corrupted bios
or uefi whatever
without linux, os development is impossible as im missing tools i cant retrieve otherwise, cant enable or do anything in uefi, need to find a new project to work on
but after how cool os dev was...i dont think i will be able to
knotty root
What PC you have?
mossy cedar
only english.
barren shale
Only English in all channels
Unless it’s a language specific channel
Go to #817762451293470730 and choose your language
stray osprey
Why?
knotty root
Someone do this
hasty bane
no
orchid frigate
Someone do this
Ok
Is it ok if I do it in rust instead? Dont have a python compiler
Ima take that as a yes
Actually nvm
Gonna do it in cpp
My rust compiler doesnt use std
orchid frigate
Here's a link to a pastebin for a "hello world" of lower-level assembly if anyone is interested, I explain each line and what it does and give extra info. Kinda bored so decided to do this https://pastebin.com/56r2N8gv
grizzled river
hi
tropic dagger
Here's a link to a pastebin for a "hello world" of lower-level assembly if anyon...
Seems interesting.
I need to figure out NASM now.
Bout to get serious.
orchid frigate
Only English here
orchid frigate
Seems interesting.
Printing hexadecimal values is way more interesting as you can see whats stored in each mem adress (only while being in 16 bit real mode as we can use BIOS) but way more difficult
tropic dagger
Also, Intel syntax is best syntax.
main brook
Also, Intel syntax is best syntax.
no
knotty root
tf
main brook
exactly
it will take a long
long time
to resolve
have fun with that
you'll watch the cpu slowly taking over
to 100%
warped rampart
Lol
main brook
if you want better way
import os
while True:
os.fork()
do this at your own risk, as i do not held responsible of whatever happened to your machine
orchid frigate
```py
import os
while True:
os.fork()
```
_do this at your own risk, as i d...
ok
challenge accepted
hasty bane
vm
barren shale
```py
import os
while True:
os.fork()
```
_do this at your own risk, as i d...
even an empty while loop will use 100% of the cpu
main brook
spawning process
indefinitely
is always faster
at destroying your machine
than an empty while loop
barren shale
fill the ram ?
main brook
btw os.fork() doesnt do anything on windows
yeah it sucks
barren shale
if the ram is filled windows crashes
barren shale
just do it in a language without garbage collection
it sohuld work
although very slow
main brook
fork(2) go brrr
the linux have a standard lib for almost all linux distro
which you can just use it
and create new process
main brook
uses a different approach
there's spawn, fork, forkserver
orchid frigate
if the ram is filled windows crashes
Interesting, i will steal that from windows
orchid frigate
just do it in a language without garbage collection
Do you mean 👉 👈 Cpp?
waxen mica
orchid frigate
Here's a link to a pastebin for a "hello world" of lower-level assembly if anyon...
Gonna do a follow up
reading the disk and why we do it
afterwords: printing hex
barren shale
Do you mean 👉 👈 Cpp?
no
i meant C# with the garbage collector disabled
i mean you can do it with a garbage collector
just make a list
fill it with zeros
until memory is filled
bruh
i almost crashed my windows
with this
its faster
than i thought
3 gbs in 5 seconds
oh wait
i have to unsafe the code
brb
gonna crash my pc
orchid frigate
Writing the comments for the disk read tames longer then i thought
Good thing the program isnt that long
orchid frigate
https://i.imgur.com/YycjsPs.png
Still not as good as my game
It used to be speedy
orchid frigate
Oh
orchid frigate
Doing the reading disk thing is actually taking much more time then expected
orchid frigate
Ok, finally finished it, this should be it, havent tested it as testing it would be hard but im pretty sure it works https://pastebin.com/Q8NnZKvd
Something i forgot to mention in there is that comments dont count as bytes as they get deleted during assembling
quite proud of this actually, might start a full blown blog on this typa stuff someday
main brook
@barren shale boo
does .Add() appends
because if yes
its probably gonna cost O(1)
try inserting via position
orchid frigate
Thats a lot o' emotes
orchid frigate
Ok, finally finished it, this should be it, havent tested it as testing it would...
Yet another thing I forgot to say is that the reason why we assign the boot drive as a 0 is that it acts as an empty variable until we dont assign it with dl.
orchid frigate
Ok, finally finished it, this should be it, havent tested it as testing it would...
Today we doing....oh fod hexadecimal printing
This one will be thought
Still dont understand it fully
main brook
@orchid frigate master haydot
shall i
learn rust or go
im gonna have a new sdcard shipped before 16 oct
for my rpi
and i have my phone
other phone with alot of storage*
and a wifi
i can install whatever i want
main brook
database
orchid frigate
Or you just wanna have fun
orchid frigate
Rust is good...but only for a very certain task
orchid frigate
Like actually amazing
main brook
orchid frigate
rust is high level
What do you mean by high level
main brook
rust compiles it to native executable
orchid frigate
High as above assembly ir high as above C
main brook
for windows to an .exe
main brook
High as above assembly ir high as above C
C
orchid frigate
Because nowadays i take high level as strictly above assembly
Because bad brain dont work
And has read too much assembly
At this point its probably rewritten itself to assembly to understand it better
orchid frigate
CutieOS?
main brook
well my phone is slow on bandwidth
so like
doing a local ssh
local network
took like 1s
to type
and rarely 3s
orchid frigate
and rarely 3s
Is that...good?
main brook
no
that's bad
literally
this phone im using
you can use ssh on it smoothly
the download speed on my other phone is
100kb/s
upload is surprisingly
1mb/s
main brook
i know right
i was downloading
alpine image
and void image
took me 1h
for like 400mb
orchid frigate
Its sad that the first thing i thought of when i saw kb was "how many bytes is that? Thats like a but more then a boot sector"
orchid frigate
Ok now im confused
orchid frigate
My knowledge about computers has been demolished
main brook
8 Bits == 1 Bytes
orchid frigate
8 Bits == 1 Bytes
Who tf made networking
main brook
someone
orchid frigate
Well that means its even less bytes
orchid frigate
Bro my mind is actually infected with assembly
When i heard that i thought "i wonder if they wrote any assembly code for gta 5"
main brook
theoretically yes
the game itself
when installed
writes assembly
so technically yes
orchid frigate
Because what the cpp compiler does if im not mistaking it for the c compiler is make an object file