🌋worldbox-chat

[latent ruin]

Yes

[obsidian hollow]

'kay, let's say you want to transfer your achievements/unlocks from an old phone to a new one.

1. download this app. Usually the file manager that comes with your phone doesn't allow you to access the android folder, where is where all your worldbox data is stored. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marc.files

[keen pier]

do they just have a bot to help most of the time now

[obsidian hollow]

I am not a bot smh

[keen pier]

cuh im talking bout the bot in help chat

[obsidian hollow]

Oh, yeah. That's usually used for commonly asked questions.

[keen pier]

damn

lucky asses

[languid trout]

mmmmmm

[obsidian hollow]

2. once you're in the app, click on the 3 dots in the top left, then follow this path:
   [Section with your device name on it] > android > data > com.mkarpenko > files

[old parcel]

1738

[raven apex]

UPDATE

[keen pier]

there's a help forum now too

wait thats been here for a minute ncm

[obsidian hollow]

...you know what, I'm clogging up this chat. @latent ruin I'm moving to #🚑help-chat

[latent ruin]

Ok

[willow peak]

cosmic kirby?

[willow peak]

@buoyant snow when did we get a child?

[indigo jackal]

How do genetics work exactly

[pastel fjord]

Your pfp HELP

[wild solar]

UPDATE

[obsidian hollow]

It basically boils down to this.
Chromosomes are a grid full of slots.
You can put genes in those slots.
Different genes correspond to/increase different stats.

If you want to dig a little deeper, genes are basically a puzzle. Notice how the connection points of each gene have one of four colors: red, blue, green, and yellow? If you align all the connection points of a gene with corresponding colors (red <-> red, green <-> green, etc) the gene turns golden and the effect of it is strengthened.

[paper dust]

does modernbox work with 0.51.2

[fierce sleet]

how to make them not to build straight houses?

will the houses be built in straight lines forever now or can I somehow deactivate it like how it was around 1 year ago

[errant dirge]

How to destroy worldbox civilization realistic way

No diseases no war

[frail flax]

Food shortages

is 1 i could think of

[lyric belfry]

Early Civilizations could be destroyed by being mangled by Wild Animals

[open coral]

Doesn't really work with more developed civs that have like infinite bread

[sour vessel]

UPDATE MOBILE VERSION PLEASE

[fierce dirge]

No today

[nocturne nest]

Is mobile not on the newest version?

[frail flax]

Fairly understandable

[indigo jackal]

I already looked a video thank you anyway for explaining, ngl I expected it to be way more complex

[storm slate]

bro

im mark

[brittle hare]

Any news about the update?

[raven salmon]

There's culture traits which let the units build in whatever pattern

Check the wiki

[fierce sleet]

thanks

[fierce sleet]

bro so i like tried to dfind it but i dont know where it is

[scenic nacelle]

A small rant. Predators are entirely incapable of surviving in the wild.

They either spread across the landmass too much and never reproduce. (if only the same species stuck together) The last member dies (celibate) and the species goes extinct.

Or if the popula resches a certain size, they have a tendency to devour all their prey. So they starve. All of them die.

Bruh

[raven salmon]

Go to a units culture

And it is the bit called town plan

[scenic nacelle]

So if I wanted a species, like a crocodile, to survive, I either disable their need for food, or just let them feed on sunlight... Which is not very immersive

[raven salmon]

There's a video on all of the arrangements aswell

Let me try to find it

Theres a video by @WorldInBox_21 for all the layouts

[subtle swan]

Daily reminder to always

[scenic nacelle]

can the mutation gene manage to mutate itself

[warped flax]

yo chat how do i favorite someone?

[thick helm]

theres a star on the bottom in their ui

mainly just select someone and look for the favourite button out of the options of their ui

[thick helm]

mutation gene squared

they just become the monolith

[warped flax]

thank you

[small shell]

I hope aquatic biomes get updated ngl

[thick helm]

ye

[thick helm]

honestly agreed

[raven apex]

UPDATE

[thick helm]

i hope the next update expands on the oceans

hey maybe we can get humanoid pirahnas that make sea kingdoms

[small shell]

we need more animals

and creature customization

[thick helm]

more genetics and ones that affect creatures visually would be neat

[small shell]

and that we could adjust their size, strenght, speed directly would be cool ngl

but that would probably be hard to make

[small shell]

I still don't understand how genes work xd

[thick helm]

ooh maybe a laser similar to the heat ray but its basically a "monolith beam" that randomly mutated creatures

[thick helm]

they (sorta) function on an irl gene way

but they're definetly neat personally

[small shell]

no like

configure

[thick helm]

i enjoy modifying creatures

[small shell]

directly

[thick helm]

oh

uh

[small shell]

doing extinction in worldbox is fun ngl

[thick helm]

best way to summarize it, its the colour

like say you have a red bar on the left side, and a red bar on top

you need a gene on top and the on left side with a red bar connecting to the first one

which creates a synergy

best way i can summarize it atleast

[somber garden]

does this game ever go on discount on steam

[thick helm]

yes it has quite a few times from memory

buying it regardless of price is definetly worth it though

[full panther]

Guys, what's the best mod right now

[thick helm]

i'd say modernbox if there wasnt the current.. issues from what i've seen

[small shell]

tbh they need to make a better climate system

like

the ages don't do anything much

just change air and land

[thick helm]

i actually like the ages, visually and mechanically for a few of them

but i get what you mean

[small shell]

tbh

they could do stuff like

[thick helm]

age of tears is my favourite visually

age of wonders, mechanically

[small shell]

if some species is adjusted to one climate

and you change ages

they can go extinct if they wont adapt

[thick helm]

oh i see what you mean

yeah

[small shell]

that is also a realistic thing

[thick helm]

you know that'd add access to more genes/traits aswell

like an adaptability system

[small shell]

and will make worldbox better

[thick helm]

say a trait that makes something less or more adaptable

or a gene that does the same in a I-III scale

[small shell]

like I mean

if a creature is adapted to warm stuff

and you do ice age

[thick helm]

they'll struggle in cold

yeah

[small shell]

the creature freezes to death

and goes extinct

[thick helm]

would work well with adding onto evolution ingame aswell

[small shell]

or if it gets too warm they struggle there

[small shell]

ye

we need natural evolution in worldbox

[thick helm]

agreed

[small shell]

not monolith

[thick helm]

having the monolith is nice

[small shell]

or gmo

[thick helm]

yeah

[small shell]

like

[thick helm]

maybe a word law

[small shell]

if you put it into a simulation

[thick helm]

that would let when creatures breed, theres an X chance to mutate

[small shell]

over years

[thick helm]

depending on traits, etc

[small shell]

you'll get more creatures

others will go extinct

and evolve into others

and slowly

make humans

[thick helm]

everything becomes crabs

[small shell]

fr

[thick helm]

[small shell]

worldbox rlly lacks animals

[thick helm]

i wouldnt say it lacks animals

more it lacks the variability

that comes with the concept of evolution

[small shell]

I mean we only have 1 fish

which is piranha

[thick helm]

since its clearly an idea/a part of world box

[small shell]

or is there more

I only remember the piranha

[thick helm]

i do believe there is only the piranha

fish wise atleast

[cloud steeple]

aint there a video on youtube talking about how every animal turns into a crab and why a crab its the best animal to be on earth..?

[thick helm]

yeah lol

it's referenced in-game if im not mistaken

the crab metamorphasis sub-species trait

"everything becomes crabs"

[cloud steeple]

we need a prey or a bigger fish

[thick helm]

agreed

[small shell]

we need way more animals

[cloud steeple]

🤔

[small shell]

like in aquatic biomes

[thick helm]

maybe next update could be aquatic focused

would be nice

i personally just want alot more genes lol

[small shell]

we need land and marine life ngl

most updates focus on magic and stuff

we need a life update

[cloud steeple]

the thing is implementing them well into the game.. i heard by some newbies that they dont play worldbox alot cuz the gui is too complex and filled over the top with stuff

[thick helm]

complex..?

[small shell]

it's not even complex

[thick helm]

worldbox in my opinion has the most simple gui out of any game i've played

[small shell]

if you mean smth else

[thick helm]

AND it's easy to understand

[small shell]

then idk

I don't understand how genes work tho

[cloud steeple]

but like, u go to the human, then there his family his blood who he killed who he was, his DNA

then u go to the DNA and its a whole new page apart from the normal game

[small shell]

dna is complex for me sure

rest is simple

[thick helm]

chromosomes, synergies, harmful genes, mutations, Big, Small, Regular,

[cloud steeple]

what they do?

[thick helm]

smaller species (like insects) will only have one chromosome

in-game if im not mistaken

chromosomes are recognised as basically just storage

[small shell]

I mean

how long was the aquatic biomes mod not updated rn?

[thick helm]

they just hold the genes of a creature, unfortunatley its not like you can remove them

[small shell]

11 months or smth?

[thick helm]

wouldn't know lol

[cloud steeple]

this.. exists? how it works?

[thick helm]

i assume regular biomes but well, aquatic

i might work only on shallow/close ocean

i'd imagine coral reefs

[cloud steeple]

hm but thats way too inside

i dont think we could ever see the coral reefs from the topview we have

[thick helm]

i mean you can see the great barrier reef in australia from space

it's not too far fetched

[solid furnace]

Could more manmade things be added?

[cloud steeple]

maybe if the devs added some ULTRAREALISTIC VFX AND LIGHT addon, now your water Is SUPER BEAUTIFUL AND CRYSTAL-CLEAR

[full panther]

Guys, about the modernbox mode, is it only effect on human or all creature

[thick helm]

i'd imagine that would be much, much further in the future

[solid furnace]

Hmmm

[small shell]

I mean

every intelligent creature

I mean human like

[cloud steeple]

yo u need to remember that if he is doing for every sapient creature he needs to do some crazy math numbers and images for that

[small shell]

???

[cloud steeple]

the houses buildings etc

i.. i dont think they will have a different version

[small shell]

it's simple

you make it go

[cloud steeple]

hm

[small shell]

I mean time

spawn humans

You can adjust how long it will take creatures to make modern tech.

Instantly, hundreds or thousands

you don't need to do anything

just let the time go

[nocturne nest]

I think modernbox just has the same building images for every creature

[small shell]

and done

[thick helm]

cant blame them, with how many sapient humanoids there are now it would take very long

[nocturne nest]

Agreed

[thick helm]

i still havent unlocked all the humanoid species aswell..

[cloud steeple]

i wish the modifications werent just modification, so we could wait for a nice update...

[small shell]

time just runs slow

when you need to wait for smth

[nocturne nest]

I unlocked them through a workshop map, can’t remember which one tho

[small shell]

which is annoying

[thick helm]

i've preferred doing it myself, just feels more rewarding is all lol

[nocturne nest]

Ye i kinda get that

[thick helm]

i've hated getting the plots though it sucks trying to get them all

[small shell]

rulerbox is nice tho

it's just unfinished rn

[cloud steeple]

i.. just did some sort of noah's ark and put every animal in a tiny land, left a monolith... the whole world now colonised with goats and crabs

[nocturne nest]

I just wanted to play with them day 1 of betalith and i didnt know about forbidden knowledge

[thick helm]

i only unlocked forbidden knowledge for the achievement lol

[nocturne nest]

Same lol

[thick helm]

whilst testing is fun, i dont like using it personally

[nocturne nest]

Ye

[thick helm]

sacrificing was funny tho

[cloud steeple]

do yo know whats the name of that hidden settings page? where u click on settings, then on a burger and you open a secret gui?

[nocturne nest]

Im still missing a few subspecies and culture traits but thats it i think

[thick helm]

yes the debug menu

[nocturne nest]

Only the ones from the harder achievements i still miss

[cloud steeple]

the debug meno, it feels less "cheaty" than the forbidden knowlege hah

[thick helm]

zoo is the main one im trying to get

[thick helm]

good point, i only have it access for whilst i wait for greg and for sonic speed lol

[nocturne nest]

Ive given up on achievements ever since i got king of kings lol

[thick helm]

fair kings of kings is definetly not an.. easy one

i do understand why it's hard tho

[nocturne nest]

Just wanted that immortality for my story worlds

[cloud steeple]

one day, youll talk about and hate about how the whole workshop is "click on this map to get achievement, pls like for 7 likes achievment"

the second day your gonna be installing all of them, trying to get that damn damned achievment

[nocturne nest]

Found a method for it on yt was still hard tho, could have also just got a map but idk

Achievements i like to get myself

[thick helm]

its unfortunate i cant use the trait editor but the good part is i can just jam his genetics packed with extreme buffs and soon enough i'll get it

and plus if i get smooth jazz on him, his kids will be strong aswell

[small shell]

could be cool

if they added cold blooded and warm blooded system

which makes cold blooded creatures struggle in ice age or cold places

or a system where certain species can assert dominance

like irl dinosaurs dominated

and when they died mammals had the oppurtunity to rise

but it is hard to program I think

so

not worth it

[ruby brook]

maybe if they keep adding biomes they could create a system of categories
-cold biome
-temperate
-hot
-tropical

and species would have a preference according to the biome they spawned on

but they could also adapt to other biomes (creating actual subspecies)

[ruby brook]

We need Dino and préhistoric stuff in worldbox

something i would really like is elephant

[small shell]

we need more marine life

we only have piranha for marine

[ruby brook]

but if you spawn one on the permafrost it become a mammoth

[noble osprey]

I think this might have been my first ever discord server bro

damn

[small shell]

nice

[ruby brook]

well we need a sea update to add more animals and utilities to seas

[noble osprey]

is there more updates yet

[ruby brook]

it need a total rework

probably for later

[noble osprey]

I havent played in like 2 years

[north nacelle]

Huh

[small shell]

there was a large one .

a year ago

[noble osprey]

oh fr?

what was it

[small shell]

ye

Genes

species

more magic

[noble osprey]

Yo what???

[small shell]

and many more

[noble osprey]

Last time i played they added those traits

[small shell]

more creatures, forbidden knowledge

then there are like none

only minor

[thick helm]

eh, i'd say armybox has been fairly decent so far

[wise ledge]

when will the worldbox premium discount ends? i want to buy it in near time...

[small shell]

what did it even add xd

I forgot

[thick helm]

content regarding armies, and an overal mechanic expansion to them and more interaction

alongside alot of other things

[scenic nacelle]

Srsly tho it's really sad

[raven apex]

UPDATE

[thick helm]

maybe next update, or a soon one can add an actual rate for this

less prey, less predators

more prey, more predators

less predators = more prey

etc

and actual system for checking it so that the world isnt filled with just one species

and everything else is doomed

[scenic nacelle]

Civies also tend to slaughter all of their own livestock

[scenic nacelle]

Lol, I think the hunger bar is a good enough management for preventing overkilling

But the other problem is the inability of creatures to stick together and reproduce

[thick helm]

maybe breeding seasons would be a good addition?

a certain time of a year where they'd converge in an area to mate and reproduce

would help with that in a way atleast

[scenic nacelle]

Hmm, makes sense yes

doesn't really have to be seasons, but a certain rate / cooldown maybe

[thick helm]

you know, maybe a system similar to traits but for neurons would be neat

[scenic nacelle]

another brain Neuron node or smth

[thick helm]

oh good point

[scenic nacelle]

Heyy we converged on the idea

[thick helm]

having all fire at once across every species member might cause a bit of lag wouldn't it?

[thick helm]

true!

maybe having it be seasonal, but having a year-3 year cooldown between seasons might work

[scenic nacelle]

lmao I always tend to turn off winter in some worlds

Or we can set what seasons the creatures breed

in some sort of set breeding ground, like a town/kingdom but for animals

[jovial lichen]

New update

[scenic nacelle]

Imagine if they add gene codons, subspecies traits (like gestation period and breeding ground settlements

Sounds simple enough (right?

[thick helm]

a tab that cycles similar to the ages one but with 4-5 seasons and has a species category or part that shows which species has what season as their breeding season and how long since their last one

[thick helm]

it does, i know there is already gestation period genes though

[scenic nacelle]

Yep, just wondering if it could be implemented similarly

[scenic nacelle]

Ooh

[thick helm]

this could actually work well with your breeding ground idea

say having an ovapiroius species

and their breeding ground is tied to an area

and during the season you'll see them converge there

and eggs be laid

[scenic nacelle]

Alternatively, make animals form herds/packs

like population sizes for sapient subspecies

[thick helm]

oo would allow for an alpha esc system for packs

say a unique trait that buffs their size and other stats, etc

[scenic nacelle]

cool idea, one of those "untouchables" or proccable like madness

[thick helm]

i do wish this server had a suggestion channel, it would be quite fun to store all this stuff in there

[scenic nacelle]

Or inspiration

[thick helm]

agreed

should be a trait that you'll find on a creature that shows they mean buisness lol

not just occassionaly or by force

[scenic nacelle]

If this is added, wild animals can actually kind of fight back against lone bears instead of being fodder lol

[thick helm]

an alpha bear would definetly be fun

oh you know what? imagine a bounty esc system for kingdoms like bounties on theives, alpha animals, or just creatures with high renown

[scenic nacelle]

like a ruler / king

[thick helm]

i think if that was the case, there should be a false alpha trait

one that super increases diplomacy, but actually weakens them slightly

[scenic nacelle]

hmm, a bit complex, but maybe it could be like the action "hunting", like "bounty-hunting" the creatures with most "renown"?

[thick helm]

an update based entierly on expanding crime.. that'd he fun

like a black market system for kingdoms, or a secret order amongst kingdoms

[thick helm]

maybe so yeah

[royal glade]

what about war goals

[scenic nacelle]

oh wow, we're actually getting listened to lol. Could I ask is there an actual way of suggesting content updates?

[open coral]

Like if a territory was previously part of a bigger kingdom but split off after some time the kingdom can justify the need to reclaim the territory?

[thick helm]

oh true

[royal glade]

#💡game-suggestions

[thick helm]

well then!

[scenic nacelle]

Nice! @thick helm

[thick helm]

i saw lol

i'll compile our stuff tmr (as its nighttime for me lmao)

and then i'll chuck it into a suggestion

[scenic nacelle]

Ok if you'll send the suggestiom, I'll try to summarize our points and DM it to you @thick helm

[thick helm]

wonderful

thank you Fe

[royal glade]

its planned already btw

[open coral]

And the kingdom that follows a particular religion loses the city in which the the religion actually arose from would they declare war on the current kingdom that holds said city and try and make peace after conquering said city

[scenic nacelle]

woah is there like a roadmap we could see

[royal glade]

idk

[thick helm]

like.. everything we said is?

[thick helm]

a roadmap would definetly be neat, atleast more so ones that tell a general area for release alongside what featueres to expect

[open coral]

Would be cool to see that

[open coral]

True

[thick helm]

you know the fact theres religion, could imply in a future update we could get cults..

[scenic nacelle]

and we could pester the devs fewer times

[thick helm]

true

overall would be benefical for the community and devs

community because it gives us future insight

devs because it keeps some of the more.. annoying bunch of us laid off

[open coral]

Sacrificing people to turn their leader into a demigod

Or summon a mythical beast

[thick helm]

oh that would be fun, a new plot

[open coral]

Like a dragon or crabzilla

[thick helm]

"Form Cult" where it forms an underground cult in an enemy kingdom

and it kidnaps civilians or royal members

and eventually may summon a dragon or such on the kingdom

[open coral]

Imagine if they add dragon eggs and they feed people to the tiny dragon guy in secret until it gets ready to bear down some destruction

[thick helm]

a tab to keep track aswell similar to clans instead labelled as Cults

maybe even cults that arent used for warfare

but an entierly seperate clause, eyc

maybe a universl pact between kingdoms yadda yadda

or even an attempt of other worldly influence

[open coral]

True.

[thick helm]

oh a doomsday cult would be fun

they'd require ALOT of sacrifices n such

but maybe could force cause an age of chaos

or other calamitous force on that same scale

[open coral]

A meteor shower on the world 😭

Causing mass extinction

Or summoning a portal that keeps summoning demons or cold ones

Also another feature I really would love is to be able to revive dead favourite units

[thick helm]

they just summon an infinity coin 😭

[thick helm]

maybe having another tab thats basically a graveyard that stores the "graves" of your favourited creatures

and you can select the graves to either Resurrect, Reincarnate, n smth else

resurrect brings them back the exact same as they were before death in a random location

[open coral]

Yeah

[thick helm]

reincarnate gives them a whole new body n traits, but forces them with a new trait that slowly morphs them to their original form

would be very cool

[open coral]

Or you can put their soul into a random guy.

[thick helm]

oh that'd be fun

just yoink some guys soul and kick it out

and put your favourite back in a body

what happens to the other guys soul

[open coral]

Propably wiped off

[thick helm]

your favourited guys soul ate the other ones soul

[open coral]

Or there could be a system of coexistence between the two souls where your favourite unit's soul can only come out at certain times like when the body is about to die or in the age of Chaos or something

[nocturne nest]

I need this

[thick helm]

oh my god a night time and day time based systme for the souls would be so cool

[small shell]

worldbox rlly needs an extinction system

and adaptation system

that humans wont instantly create civilizations system

we rlly need evolution

[uneven hatch]

how do i stop cultures from gaining traits through people reading books, i edit a culture by removing a trait but eventually it regains that trait

[azure idol]

Update when

[small shell]

When it is done

[solemn hatch]

any solutions to stop 1 culture from dominating?

[lucid talon]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-almost-ready-alien-2037-2076-gif-8402036631201248290

[drowsy spire]

I lowkey want a Victorian era in worldbox that would be cool like houses connected and old Stine looking with cobble paths and stuff and towers

Stone not stine

[small shell]

idk

[empty flame]

update soon

[small shell]

use powerbox

and divide them

[empty flame]

like really soon

[small shell]

How you're suppossed to know that?

You know how people are like

Say they have love for you but wont say a word

too damn scared

[obsidian hollow]

It's just copium, let them be

one of these days they'll be right

[empty flame]

it was in my dream

[small shell]

will there be a proper evolution system in worldbox?

like

if you don't do anything

[obsidian hollow]

hell if I lnow

[small shell]

creatures will spawn

[obsidian hollow]

hopefully yeah but idk

[small shell]

and they will evolve

and etc

[patent marsh]

What are the thought on the ostrich and fog of war thingy

[azure idol]

I hope they'll finally add ranching

Damn I need fog of war NOW

[silver sage]

Ranching? What’s that?

[azure idol]

Animal farming lol

[silver sage]

Ohhh

That’ll be cool

I also hope they add some kind of trade mechanic in the game

Or some economy update

[azure idol]

Fr and carnivore species will make more sense

[azure idol]

THIS

[silver sage]

Every village having 999 gold makes no sense to me

But the coins

I can see them going down when they use it for rites and military i think

[azure idol]

Whole system is too simple

[silver sage]

But I still think there’s more coins can be used for

[azure idol]

We need real tax and trade system

Something like in victoria 3 but a little bit simplificated for performance reasons

[silver sage]

Yeah I would agree

[random brook]

i wonder if they add something like a big ray which creates a big world ending explosion around it and we can decide the scale

kind of like an upgraded tser bomb

[patent marsh]

No sales ):

[obsidian hollow]

So, like...
Placing down tnt and lighting it up with heat ray?

[random brook]

no

[open coral]

Hell yeah. That would be uselful to make sure herbivores don't just go extinct and the kingdom has a good supply of meat.

[obsidian hollow]

Why not? It's a big ass ray that you can determine the area of effect of

[open coral]

Also I saw a guy trying to punch those garlic things in the garlic biomes in an attempt to hunt them and he died 💔

Massive skill issue for him

[random brook]

bruh i mean like you knoww in one of those alien movies an ufo uses a heat ray type of thing and the big area blows up

[obsidian hollow]

yeah

[random brook]

and plus it'll look cooler

i think they should add more new things to destruction tab

[fierce dirge]

Why not rarely when big part of army runs after 1 enemy who runs

[obsidian hollow]

Because a city's entire army must be killed before it can be captured

[paper bronze]

Is there a sort of free but limited version of WB for pc like there is on mobile? I wish to play on pc but I don't want to pirate it

[random brook]

no

atleast i dont think so

[nocturne nest]

No youre right there isnt

Im pretty sure

[paper bronze]

Not even a way to effectively play mobile on pc?

[random brook]

no

play store in pc can't download free WB

[paper bronze]

I mean there's bluestacks and other mobile emulators

[random brook]

then go try it and see if it works

cuz honestly i dont know much

[paper bronze]

Yeah I'll try

[obsidian hollow]

Yeah, you can get an android emulator

[celest nacelle]

i wonder if there are any mods for easier map making

there was "map maker's mod" but it doesnt work anymore sadly

[obsidian hollow]

you could try asking around in #🔧modding-talk ig

[celest nacelle]

ill try, thanks

[visual marlin]

Hello everyone, I’m creating a interactive WorldBox story

This means that people can comment the decisions of what I should do to progress the story

Or people can tell me which kingdoms they are cheering on or ones that they dislike

[old aspen]

@placid kraken wait a minute

WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE

[random brook]

what r the kingdom names, did u decide?

[visual marlin]

That’s the thing I’m letting the people decide

[placid kraken]

UGH WHY ARE YOU HERE YOU FUCKIN FASCIST

[old aspen]

FEMBOY IN THE WILD!?

[visual marlin]

You guys can submit kingdom names

[random brook]

then name one of the kingdoms after urself ("Mc and cheese")

[visual marlin]

The Mac and cheese empire

[random brook]

yeah

[visual marlin]

Sweet

I’m building the map first

[obsidian hollow]

wtf

[random brook]

tf is fascist

[visual marlin]

Yo

[placid kraken]

he's a dude from reddit i have the unfortunate luck of meeting
he's said fucked up shit, js ignore him us dw </3

[old aspen]

guys, disregard the femboy

[obsidian hollow]

that's... for Google to answer, not us

[random brook]

yo guys this guy's creating a wb story help him decide kingdom names the emprie name is the "mac and cheese" empire

[random brook]

do ur job

your the helper

[old aspen]

why are we all becoming grasshoppers

[obsidian hollow]

only for worldbox related stuff

[obsidian hollow]

You gain a bit of exp every time you chat

[small shell]

fascism is uhhh

ideology

[obsidian hollow]

Eventually your role levels up

[small shell]

basically

you love your country

militarize

and do stuff to benefit

[random brook]

sure sure

[small shell]

the country

or smth like that

[obsidian hollow]

that's patriotism, different

[small shell]

I mean

Fascism is nationalism

ultranationalism or smth

[random brook]

then tell whats fascist

[placid kraken]

fascism is something that i dont think this server needs to worry abt

[visual marlin]

Yea

[obsidian hollow]

I hate to minimod but maybe discuss in #🌎general

[random brook]

you said only WB related stuff..

[small shell]

TUFF

[random brook]

no

dont even try

[small shell]

yes

[storm stream]

what are kids arguing about

[small shell]

tuff

[small shell]

I'm not a kid tho

[random brook]

facistism

[small shell]

I'm playing along

with the kid

[storm stream]

why

just ignore him

[small shell]

fun

nah

it's fun

[random brook]

join the fun then

[storm stream]

thats why i think you two are underage

[small shell]

I'm not

[storm stream]

what's there even to discuss

[random brook]

neither am i

[random brook]

random things

anything other than WB

[small shell]

it's worldbox chat, amigo

[storm stream]

im pretty sure nationalism is a possible culture on WB

or some kind of nationalism or fascism

for eg. happiness from war trait

[obsidian hollow]

...xenophobia?

[random brook]

yeah but we are'nt exactly discussing WB, are we?

[obsidian hollow]

or ethnocentric guard

[storm stream]

fascists advocated that war is a positive force

[small shell]

go to general, mah friend

[small shell]

ya

[storm stream]

you can go with both i'd argue

[small shell]

but incompetence

[storm stream]

i dont know how accurate they are

[small shell]

number 1

[placid kraken]

-# welp, now that ive started this random convo that is barely related to wb, im outta here

[storm stream]

ok bye

[gaunt sable]

Well that was entertaining

[random brook]

sure

[storm stream]

you guys know what worldbox needs

[random brook]

facist

[storm stream]

yeah but besides that

you are a god

thats not being worshipped

epic fail.......

[gaunt sable]

I was gonna say an Esperanto translation

[random brook]

so you torture the people of the world

[storm stream]

you cannot conclude that from my statement hehehe...

[gaunt sable]

it’s like Quetzcoatl

[storm stream]

i totally do not torture people in my worldbox world

[random brook]

we have individual opinions

[storm stream]

or drop meteors on them

[gaunt sable]

I only nuke the evil wizard when I forget to turn off the events thing

[random brook]

i do

[gaunt sable]

as far as gods go yall effing suck

[storm stream]

i hope dev bro adds proper god-world relationship

like being awful makes you feared

that shit would be so good...

1000 hours in worldbox

[random brook]

of course you'd find it good

[storm stream]

how'd you tell...

[gaunt sable]

you are the villain that gets sealed in a tomb for 4,000 years cuz he sucks that much

[random brook]

your profile pic

[storm stream]

Counter point: 10000 tsar bombas

[gaunt sable]

I hope this guy knows that you have to be at least 13 to be on the discord

[storm stream]

what if you are negative age?

[random brook]

bro there are literal 8 years old on ts

[storm stream]

does it overflow and you turn 256?

[gaunt sable]

😭 maaan i just wanna be on the translation team

[gaunt sable]

where did the number 256 come from?

[storm stream]

integer overflow

[random brook]

genius math

[alpine sage]

[random brook]

hey guys, do anyone of you know how to torture worldbox npcs more effectively?

[stiff nimbus]

Honestly this sounds like an amazing idea

[storm stream]

i agree with you

[visual marlin]

I jus posted WorldBox story

[obsidian hollow]

If you wanna torture a single unit, put them, and only them, next to a monolith until they get evolved to become their own subspecies
then you can mess with their genes while not affecting anyone else

[storm stream]

i'd go even further and say it'd be nice if kingdoms were influenced by ruler's personality

[random brook]

thats accurate

[storm stream]

like SOMETHING happening because I feel like kingdoms are very similar

to each other

[visual marlin]

@random brook go check out my story

[last patrol]

@iron trellis 😳

[random brook]

nice

[visual marlin]

Go check out story guys pls

[random brook]

whats the story like later?

are the humans or whatever subspeicies are there gonna fight anything likr invaders from other galaxy?

so quiet...

[stiff nimbus]

Honestly yeah
Have say a militant ruler spec their kingdom more into the military, or a charismatic/diplomatic ruler spec more into well, diplomacy

[bright moss]

i

declare

[storm stream]

i'd go further for eg. a psychopathic ruler will focus on his own goals, evil one will create a miserable kingdom, etc.

[bright moss]

war

on wordbox

[stiff nimbus]

Yeah

The two I said were just examples yk

[bright moss]

I

DECLARE

WAR

on wordbox

[stiff nimbus]

Id love to have a like
Totalitarian state

[bright moss]

because the steam version is not free like android

[stiff nimbus]

Cool, go face the wall and wait for an inspector to come execute you

[storm stream]

I think the biggest issue is that while Worldbox is a very fun sandbox and a toy it's not very good at creating stories

[stiff nimbus]

Lol embed fail

[bright moss]

NUH UH

[stiff nimbus]

Yeahhhh
The subspecies n stuff is amazing, adda more depth

Now we need different types of governments

[storm stream]

I mean yeah there is a lot of stuff to implement but I'd really advocate for making the game more 'personal'. Like trying to make important characters feel unique rather than follow an archetype

otherwise you get Civilization but with bots

[stiff nimbus]

Yeah that's pretty much what this is

Id like to see it function more like say

Stellaris

With how the pops work

[storm stream]

I don't actually think POPs are that big of a deal, they're just kind of a nameless blob later on, with giant hordes of kids chilling by a campfire

the ideal would be NPCs that have a bit of personality or stuff to do in cities, like going to markets, visiting monuments going to churc, etc., but that is a LOT of work so I don't expect it to happen

[ancient tangle]

How to make wolves into werewolves?

[storm stream]

via the monolith I believe

if you mean wolf people

[ancient tangle]

Previously, it was enough to place an animal near the monolith in the right month. But in the latest update, that's no longer enough.

[storm stream]

idk why maybe just wait a bit they should mutate

[ancient tangle]

OK

[storm stream]

it could be that you disabled monolith mutations in the world settings

i think thats possible

[ancient tangle]

Thanks

[flint yoke]

two step verification

[stiff nimbus]

Yeah, like how in Minecraft villagers have a routine
Wake uo, go to work, then sometime mid day they roam, then go to town square to trade, then they go back to work then sleep

[flint yoke]

if you look at the civs closely you can actually see that and you can also see when they are talking about rebellion

[stiff nimbus]

Ooo fr?

[flint yoke]

before it turns into a plan

[stiff nimbus]

I usually keep rebellions turned off so ive never seen that

[storm stream]

to be honest WB doesn't have a day-night system so it wouldn't work that well, otherwise you'd have days and nights that last for years or something like that, I'd be awesome if NPCs would do stuff on their own that would be actually HUGE and more in-depth than Dwarf Fortress which would be a massive achievement

[flint yoke]

they will even talk about wars and death and other things aswell

[stiff nimbus]

Dwarf fortress?

[storm stream]

I just don't think it's possible simply due to the amount of computation required

[flint yoke]

You just gotta understand the symbols they use to speak

[storm stream]

yeah the game famous for it's insane simulation of a fantasy world

[stiff nimbus]

Gotta rmember ts gotta run in androids too lmao

[storm stream]

yeah that's definitely a barrier

[stiff nimbus]

I mean

Tbh

[flint yoke]

they even talk about you and your favourites sometimes

[storm stream]

but like WB has potential to really blow up and be a really good fucking game, it's already halfway there with the amount of content it has

[south trellis]

It can also run on a potato if you pray hard enough so there's more to this argument

[stiff nimbus]

Big games have started getting official mobile ports like
Read ded redemption
Subnautica
Gta San andreas

[storm stream]

i mean dev added moods to every single NPC on the world already and it somehow runs fine

[south trellis]

however. Worldbox is already more complex than DF in how it calculates and treats actors

[storm stream]

could be, I haven't actually gotten into it

[south trellis]

We cannot hit that level of optimization

[storm stream]

DF is not that well optimized to be honest

[south trellis]

It's a matter of doing things differently on a fundamental level

Approaches and strategies

[stiff nimbus]

I mean im usually able to run with let's see
Sonic speed
Fast pop growth
Infinite houses
Infinite materials

On mobile

Just fine

[south trellis]

Yeah you have mobile size maps blud. Pipe down.

[stiff nimbus]

I use pc maps

[south trellis]

Map size increases the computational requirement massively by every iteration

[south trellis]

If you're using vanilla maps at all you're still not going to push it like we're talking about

I'm talking 40x30s blud

[stiff nimbus]

Yeah I know

I use those

[south trellis]

Yeah I'm sure

Thats totally the truth

[storm stream]

I think the best boon WorldBox could get is 1. world that reacts to your actions and actions of other kingdoms in a meaningful way (read: creates something akin to a story), and unique actors to drive that story with (read: rulers of kingdoms, powerful/high lvl. creatures, creatures with rare traits (giant, immortal, psychopath)

[south trellis]

You aren't even RUNNING a 40x30 on android what are you waffling about

[stiff nimbus]

It is :/
Cant get the whole map in view when I scroll out though but I get over it

[storm stream]

basically infinite content

[south trellis]

They already have this in the works kind of. There's a couple stubs of features coming in the next major update

[storm stream]

now i'm really interested, go on

[stiff nimbus]

Now usually yes I won't run 40x30 but I have on a few occasions like for a recreation of tamriel or just a good recreation of earth
Usually its half that, 20x15

[south trellis]

Did you notice in every world now there's an option for Diety name and mood? And how the books seem to be able to reference game events?

[storm stream]

i did notice the diety tab but I must have skipped through the book part

[stiff nimbus]

Wait we can read books???

[storm stream]

just titles

[south trellis]

It looks like they're trying to develop a way for your guys to not only recognize you as a diety but chronicle your acts as well

[stiff nimbus]

Ah

[storm stream]

this would be huge

[south trellis]

Titles and flavor text only

[storm stream]

really really huge

[south trellis]

The flavor text is what interests me though

[stiff nimbus]

Yeah I knew about the titles but when yous aid read i thought you meant like read read

Myb

[south trellis]

Units with enough intelligence can write books which provide city wide buffs

[storm stream]

once the game registers what you do and chronicles it it can't be that hard to add custom behavior on top of that

[south trellis]

Right the hooks for listening for those actions would already be present and thus exposed for modders to take advantage of.

If done right this could be the biggest major update for modding ever

[storm stream]

bro WB is gonna take the crown from Dwarf Fortress one day 🙏

[visual marlin]

Bro no one has seen my story yet

😢😢😢

[south trellis]

I have things to do today sorry pimp

[stiff nimbus]

I might try dwarf fortress
Sounds interesting
Is it mobile or just steam?

[south trellis]

I'm literally about to go see my friend in the hospital I'm leaving in like 10 mins

[storm stream]

steam

[south trellis]

Steam as of recently, before you got it from their site.

[stiff nimbus]

Ah shit he okay?

[south trellis]

The steam release is so much better though it's crazy

[storm stream]

yeah DF getting the love it deserves

[south trellis]

Yeah long story but he's recovering in behavioral health

[storm stream]

I think DF/Rimworld/Worldbox are very similar to each other in some ways

[stiff nimbus]

Ah. Wish him luck

I wanna try rimworld too but I keep forgetting to lol

[storm stream]

I'd say currently things are:

1. DF
2. WB
3. Rimworld
   In terms of simulation

[south trellis]

You will download 500 mods and you will like it

[storm stream]

it's my personal opinion but without good simulation these kinds of games are boring to me

cuz they are just map painters no offense, WB is cool cuz it at least has kingdoms with warfare and nice tools to track favorite NPCs

so you can get a semblance of story out of it but again, I feel like it's not quite there

[south trellis]

DF and Rim aren't map painters they're colony managers what are you on about

[storm stream]

yeah fair point

[south trellis]

They're a different genre than worldbox entirely

[storm stream]

my approach to them is the same which is, I look at them from storytelling lens and all three drop the ball, rimworld drops the ball the hardest, WB is better and in some way beats DF

[stiff nimbus]

._.

[south trellis]

They do share some similarities in the simulation elements, but until the most recent major update Worldbox was actually super lacking in the simulation category

Now that we have neurons and moods and things influencing decision making that has changed

[storm stream]

it's certainly a lot more interesting to observe kingdoms now

well

I'm hyped for the update pretty much everything maxim cooks is top tier

[south trellis]

It's also more interesting to observe individual units now too since they do more than their basic jobs

I do kind of wish we could change neuron structure around in units instead of a simple on off toggle but that's also still fun to mess with

[woeful crest]

this sounds like a weird thing

like

you can bypass the law that says that creatures don't reproduce

by using spells that summon creatures

like skeletons, or angles or demons

and such

tecnically, it doesn't count has reproduction

[south trellis]

The only power that counts as reproduction to my knowledge is smooth jazz

Even clone rain is just cloning

[obsidian hollow]

yeah

[storm stream]

what do you think about adding story-focused mechanics such as 'villains' or some kind of organizations or groups, like bandits or temples?

villains as in a formalized category of beings which are uh, idk hated by other civs, maybe have some ability to scheme and form plots

[woeful crest]

i mean cloning you doesn't count has reproduction

aaaaaaa

in a weird way

[visual marlin]

Guys the story just got wild

[south trellis]

I like the idea of this but it could take away from people's ability to roleplay their own scenarios with their own villains. It could be neat though, especially if paired with a sister system that tracks heros.

That could be a whole update focus ngl. Heroes and Villains, good vs evil, that kind of stuff

[placid obsidian]

Indeed

[storm stream]

I mean on its own it would be really interesting but the issue with this kind of system is that idk how it would even work lol

[iron trellis]

😳😳😳😳

[quiet totem]

I actually can’t think of a mad feature added

[visual marlin]

Can people do comment on my story pls

[storm stream]

mad as in good or bad?

[south trellis]

I can think of a few ways

[twilit thunder]

#🚑help-chat please someone

[alpine sage]

as he"s magisty's spiritial adviser I advise his magisty not to take the advise of his spiritial adviser

[azure idol]

We need memorybox update v2 guys

[alpine sage]

[wind arrow]

wher de updat

[acoustic kiln]

What happens if you sacrifice Elves?

[storm stream]

Armok smiles.

[slim pelican]

What fantasy creatures would y'all want in the game in the future?

[frail flax]

mermaids

or sirens as a water/coastal civ

if that is possible to do

if

[slim pelican]

That'd be cool

[quiet totem]

I misspelled bad

[frail flax]

You don't

[verbal crescent]

You get the forbidden knowledge 🙂

[obsidian hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-this-is-where-the-fun-begins-star-wars-lets-begin-gif-17501807

[verbal crescent]

Why not

[verbal crescent]

Fr

[frail flax]

⚔️

[verbal crescent]

Arrogant elf as expected

Go back to your half destroyed mother tree

[frail flax]

not very nice

Labeling every elf as arrogant follows the same principle as every apple is only red

maybe you should taste more greens

🥗

[verbal crescent]

Hmm

[verbal crescent]

Every species foods is better than elven foods

[frail flax]

Tell me if half the races don't like veggies

Hmpf!

[verbal crescent]

Veggies does not taste good!

[frail flax]

but they're better for you

🥗

[oblique knoll]

Guys i need help

[vivid forge]

With what?

[verbal crescent]

I don't wanna live longer!

[oblique knoll]

When im trying to plot an independent kingdom or idk what

[frail flax]

Lmao

[vivid forge]

Also I bet #🚑help-chat can help you more

[oblique knoll]

The king cancels the plotting

[vivid forge]

Always happens

[oblique knoll]

Why

[vivid forge]

Idk why

Just has a chance of working sometimes or not

I'm assuming

[verbal crescent]

Did you turn on diplomants?

[oblique knoll]

What’s that

If its in world laws

[verbal crescent]

Yes

[oblique knoll]

Then prob

[vivid forge]

Do you mean diplomacy

[verbal crescent]

Yeah

[oblique knoll]

Oh that

Yeah

[uncut surge]

Is there a way to give a species more genes with coding?

[oblique knoll]

We can code?

[uncut surge]

Yea

[oblique knoll]

Since when

[verbal crescent]

Go ask key of respiration

[uncut surge]

Through files

[oblique knoll]

Laz

Lazy to do allat

[obsidian hollow]

No do NOT ask me

[verbal crescent]

Oww

[obsidian hollow]

I don't know jack about messing with the code

[verbal crescent]

Fine

[obsidian hollow]

ask deathrobloxian

[uncut surge]

How do I add more genes

[verbal crescent]

This is the question

@oblique knoll right?

[uncut surge]

To a subspecies

[obsidian hollow]

Check the criteria for the rebellion plot in the plots wiki https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Plots

[oblique knoll]

Like when im trying to plot a king ruling a kingdom who once was a village the king cancels the plot

[vivid forge]

I thought you could only code on PC

[obsidian hollow]

nah you can edit the map.wbox file I believe

it's just a json file, or an encoded one

[vivid forge]

Interesting

[verbal crescent]

Click the wiki that Respiration sended

[obsidian hollow]

-# respiration, huh...

[verbal crescent]

-# Cause why not

[frail flax]

Lol

[vivid forge]

What can you even change

[bitter sun]

They should try to multiplayer

[oblique knoll]

Well that doesn’t make sense bc as soon as i start the rebellion i end the war with the peace thingy and immediately force the king to plot

[bitter sun]

To wolrdbox

[vivid forge]

That would be too complicated

And honestly sounds kind of dumb

[verbal crescent]

Go back to your mother tree, help the remaining elves that is trying to revive the other mother trees around the realms

[bitter sun]

Why?

[oblique knoll]

Would be too laggy but

[obsidian hollow]

Sorry, what are you trying to do?

[oblique knoll]

They should create accounts so we can log in with premium in other devices

[obsidian hollow]

give me a list of steps

[frail flax]

I help those that deserve it, not every elf is as humble

[obsidian hollow]

Google play accounts/apple IDs exist

[frail flax]

some trees survive, some perish

but most importantly, I have mine

🌲

[verbal crescent]

There's only 1 mother tree left among the realms

[verbal crescent]

That's an ordinary tree

[oblique knoll]

1. I create a kingdom
2. When the kingdom gets big i start a rebellion
3. After that i immediately end the war
4. And i plot the new king

[frail flax]

Careful for dragons, they not only burn trees, they like roasting human houses better

Or they nest near volcanoes and push dwarves out of their natural habitat

[verbal crescent]

The dragon civilization tried joining the Guardians Coalition, and was accepted, so the things that you said won't be happening

[obsidian hollow]

Plot the new king to do what?

[frail flax]

if you burn every tree, Goodluck breathing

at least my trees help ecosystems

[oblique knoll]

Language or culture

[frail flax]

unlike selfish humans

[verbal crescent]

There's celestial trees from the unicorn kingdoms, so your trees are not the only ones that provides such things

[obsidian hollow]

Algae:

[frail flax]

what if they perish from the demons first tho?

[verbal crescent]

Fr

[frail flax]

Not enough to sustain growing world population of greedy humans

they will steal them from the fish kingdom

[verbal crescent]

The demon king made a annihilation oath, to never harm other things, if they break it, then they'll getting annihilated by the oath

[obsidian hollow]

Bro figured out how to turn off fire feet

[frail flax]

Different from the demons I've seen

those red mages spare no one

[vivid forge]

Do units die to tempature?

I'm assuming not

[frail flax]

Not that I'm aware of

[vivid forge]

Thought so

[verbal crescent]

Yep

[frail flax]

(Could be wrong)

[vivid forge]

Deserts feel too easy to survive in

In worldbox

[obsidian hollow]

I mean, they can burn

oh wait you meant hot biomes

[vivid forge]

Unless they add random combustion to Worldbox

[verbal crescent]

They're are gone since 30k years ago

[vivid forge]

If it's hot

[obsidian hollow]

age of sun:

[vivid forge]

Then I don't see how

[frail flax]

well if units are spawned in deserts, they can adapt, else they mostly leave the sands of scorpions alone

they like to sting 🦂

[oblique knoll]

Poop

[frail flax]

then I guess we live in different parallel worlds

[vivid forge]

I wish they could die of tempature

Depending on skin color or just overall heat

Y'know a heat map and weather system would be awesome

[frail flax]

it would make sense, armor units wouldn't be affected by the cold (due to how much heat your body stores on the armor) although in heat.. well you already know

[vivid forge]

Yep

[vivid forge]

Is inbreeding still a thing

I know they do if you remove their memory of being a family

But does it happen without intervention

[frail flax]

If you temper with their reproductive system yes

[oblique knoll]

Guys tell me the most realistic world laws yall put

[vivid forge]

Reproductive system?

[frail flax]

aside I wouldn't know if it happens

[spare ruin]

When update come guys

[vivid forge]

Turn off Handsome Migrants

Turn on rat infection or whatever

[frail flax]

their race perk system

[regal snow]

Soon;D

[vivid forge]

Turn off random events

[regal snow]

Wha…

[oblique knoll]

[vivid forge]

Imagine a zombie and plauge editor

[obsidian hollow]

I mean having that on is realistic

[vivid forge]

Yeah

[verbal crescent]

Do not dwell into the past old elf, or is it because you lost your children's 30k years ago because of a great war against the demon realm and red mages🤔

[obsidian hollow]

oh wait misread

fuck

[vivid forge]

He said what's the most realistic world laws

[vivid forge]

😭

[frail flax]

🔎

[regal snow]

Scary

[vivid forge]

D@.
0 airmadecat

[oblique knoll]

Im a newbie trust

[regal snow]

You look like one

[oblique knoll]

Like i heard abt this game a few years ago

[vivid forge]

I have hwd i5 for a couple years

[verbal crescent]

Can I join your guild?

[vivid forge]

And I'm still pretty mid at it

[regal snow]

Oh sure

[frail flax]

To dwell in the past is a mistake, unless you live in time tempered biomes

[regal snow]

We’re very much dying though

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[obsidian hollow]

wha

[frail flax]

Calling a lady old, nerves you humans have

[vivid forge]

8 spilled soda on my phnn

Phone