pve-chat

[onyx depot]

it's so dumb..

[versed pine]

hey man, our PMCs are just uber-sensitive to those 50 grams of extra weight!

[onyx depot]

yeah.. I want felt-tip grenade spoons to make my PMC feel better 😂

[marsh wing]

guys they changed my parts. I dont know whas meta anymore

i also cant tell how my gun changed

[gloomy widget]

But yeah DD M-Lok seems to be the best for both stats if I havent missed one. I think there is another that ends up being the same because you have to add the -0,2 ergo from M-lok 4.1 rail

[young frost]

if they nuked my x17 i will incite a mutiny

[marsh wing]

guys... who bought up ALL THE FUCKING PRINTER PAPER

[brazen crater]

my bad my printer ran out

[marsh wing]

the flea is empty

[young frost]

sry was me had to turn it into tp to sell on flea

[marsh wing]

i cant craft filters you ass

[gloomy widget]

PRS QDC silencer is ultra bad now. For SPEAR its own silencer is now the best choice for supressed and for every other weapon like Mk47 Mutant its better to pick RED muzzle brake because the silencers on that caliber eat a lot of ergo. For 556 I think G-Lock and M4SD silencer is still ok

[young frost]

when do we get a craft for ink ? i dragged my printer out of storage but had to give it the emperors mercy

[young frost]

this is an outrage.

[marsh wing]

THEY CHANGED MY REWARD FONT

IM NOT HAPPY. GO LOOK AT YOUR TASKS

i lied.... i actually like the reward interface change

[onyx depot]

they changed it coz it's "friendlier"

[quartz thicket]

screenshot

[ruby sky]

So what is the new arena quest, like what do you have to do

[onyx depot]

X-17 is no longer meta.. it's TOZ gang now!

[ruby sky]

Okay but the spear silencer for the spear was originally the all around best for the spear though

[edgy cipher]

wrong incryption param?

[young frost]

fuck my stupid boge life

[bright sand]

isnt toz the meta all the while?

[onyx depot]

yes but now it's extra meta

[onyx depot]

you will be remembered

[gloomy widget]

I think the PRS QDC silencer had the same stats regarding recoil and ergo if I remember correctly (including the needed muzzle brake), basically was only a style choice

[last skiff]

So many people panic now , is funny :))

[young frost]

im not a big fan of change

[bright sand]

change for the good? no?

[marsh wing]

Bro i was in a hurry. Im no longer in my house

[versed pine]

wdym it isn't an MP-18 meta

[quartz thicket]

darn

[twin plover]

For PvE probably not I think this benefits player vs player more because of the ergo balancing

[twin plover]

^

[marsh wing]

They tightened the font and made the rewards below your tasks more, idk, clean?

[young frost]

on principle. ofc im just a shitposter who believes in nothing so u gotta take my word with a grain of salt

[quartz thicket]

cool, they really need to rework the UI. Loading a new scene for every menu is ass

[brazen crater]

i mean i changed some things on my M4 and its honestly even better than before

[marsh wing]

They also reworked entering and exiting raids so it ahould be more optimized and faster

[twin plover]

Ergo nerf is definitely needed because there’s no reason for me to have a 95rd gl545 with recoil lower than 200 total and 60+ ergo

[marsh wing]

What did they do to my 545 parts?

[dreamy mantle]

FYSA - legally cannot say more, but I would remove your Razer desktop applications from your PC until... its fixed.

[young frost]

idk i kinda love tarkovs crappy ui. it reminds of the golden age of windows 98/xp n its a great filter

[raw nest]

3 piece flash hider is good

[twin plover]

Haven’t checked yet but based on what has happened who knows

[marsh wing]

The task reward change isnt big. If anything it might lean into that aesthetic more. All i can say is i like it

[quartz thicket]

i was checking dailies earlier and didn't even notice

[dreamy mantle]

im just wondering what we did to deserve an on-time update

[brazen crater]

no mag, 53 ergo with 59 recoil

[onyx depot]

best place to get 318 SOST ammo?

[dreamy mantle]

making it in hideout

[versed pine]

^ just craft it

[onyx depot]

ok

[last skiff]

@onyx depot why would you use that ammo ? :))

[onyx depot]

quest

[dreamy mantle]

Ref sells it too, if you dont care about GP coin

[onyx depot]

not using it at all..

[brazen crater]

isnt it like 10K rounds of SOST i forgot

[quartz thicket]

gotta turn it in

[onyx depot]

already bought all of what he had

[onyx depot]

4500

[brazen crater]

still aids

[versed pine]

oh man

time to buy every reset

[last skiff]

@onyx depot gluchar guards has it most of the time.

[brazen crater]

SOST?

[ruby sky]

The most moral and honest shitposter

[onyx depot]

reserve here we go

[brazen crater]

Glukhar guards are more likely to have T45M-1 on AKs

[ruby sky]

I meant for the silencers. I only ran loud guns pre patch anyways.

[onyx depot]

any suggestions?

[ruby sky]

For?

[onyx depot]

318 sost ammo

[ruby sky]

Where to find it?

[onyx depot]

yup.. apart from craft and ref

[last skiff]

@brazen crater 1 sometimes 2 of them has m4's

[dreamy mantle]

does the ammo have to be found in raid?

[last skiff]

@onyx depot usec camps in woods are packed with ammo boxes

[brazen crater]

they only have 1 preset for M4s they are defo more than likely to have AKs over an M4

[marsh wing]

How different is that from before? I have no clue

[onyx depot]

will check those too

[onyx depot]

no

[brazen crater]

lemme go nab a screenshot before this patch

[dreamy mantle]

then you could also just hound Fence

[marsh wing]

If they nerfed the mini monster, ill just stop using silencers all together

[versed pine]

the mini monster is fine

[ruby sky]

The most ive ever found is on raiders. Otherwise not sure. Id say farm raiders. But the craft is probably the way to go. That or do a reserve ammo packs run and hit all the ammo pack world spawns

[marsh wing]

Might stop using it anyways, kinda tired of Dura burn

[versed pine]

dura burn is annoying but we have enough money to just replace our guns at 93 anyways

[ruby sky]

Just get max intelligence

[onyx depot]

yeah i need 4500 of them... craft gonna take a while

[dreamy mantle]

yeah i was gonna say, i replace my weapons at ~93 anyways lol

[ruby sky]

What the hell do you need 4500 sost rounds for

[onyx depot]

task

[marsh wing]

Is that the repair one? Ive been working on it i think

[ruby sky]

Which task!?

[quartz thicket]

you guys get down to 93? ive been replacing at 97 lmao

[versed pine]

Never Too Late To Learn

[marsh wing]

It likes a level 62 task

[brazen crater]

with a 40 round mag and the mini monster specifically, 51 ergo 60 recoil

[young frost]

dude im just a boge

[onyx depot]

Never Too Late to Learn

[ruby sky]

Intel gets increased by light, heavy, and weapon repair skills increasing

[ruby sky]

And a bogen, what a guy

[marsh wing]

Yeah ive started repairing weapons a lot. Thinking about buying weapons off fence and repairing

[young frost]

chasing numbers doesnt mean anything. 100rd of 55a1 at any target full send

[versed pine]

it's Weapon Maintenance that reduces durability burn though, right

[young frost]

yeaj

[marsh wing]

How can i increase that one?

[versed pine]

repairing weapons

i just repair anything i take out of raid before i sell it

[last skiff]

@marsh wing just get weapons out from raid and repair them

[brazen crater]

thats what were talking about though, the numbers and howve theyve changed with the patch.

ive ran half this character with an mp-18 i dont really use anything meta

[ruby sky]

Buy broken weapons off of fence* and repair them, then sell them to Ref

[marsh wing]

What about intel

[quartz thicket]

and fence

[young frost]

i mostly picked up shitty scav guns on factory to repair. it takes forever but its not a bad strat

[ruby sky]

Meant to type fence, sorry. Flea has broken guns for way too much money. Fixed my original message.

[young frost]

much more reasonable than light/heavy vests. absolutely preposterous

[versed pine]

buying fucked up pistols from fence is probably the most cost-effective if you want to actively buy stuff to repair instead of just taking shit out of raid

[ruby sky]

Also before anyone gets excited about buying tagilla helmets to level heavy armor. It would take 42,000 0/40 tagilla helmets to get to max heavy armor.

[quartz thicket]

1 down 41999 to go

[ruby sky]

Nah just buy shotguns and sv98s. The sv98s that show up there are basically zero durability left

[last skiff]

@ruby sky i have 87 killa helmet if you want a trade :))

[ruby sky]

Yeah are they all completely broken?

[quartz thicket]

Let me take my repair kits into raid so I can repair peoples guns in raid 😂

[young frost]

elite armor repair was promised to me 3000 wipes ago

[grizzled yoke]

gents, do you have no soul? Now's the time to show it!
Scalp the psg-1 ergo grip now!

[glacial osprey]

#weapon-modding message
prs3 meta back again

[ruby sky]

Also for anyone who doesnt know. You can refill your armor and weapon repair kits at the workbench

Dont sell them to fence when they zero

[quartz thicket]

Allrighty then, almost 2200 time for terminal

[versed pine]

thank you to whomever just listed sugar on the flea for 20k

[last skiff]

@ruby sky After 89 / 100 killa i only have 4 his new helmets 😄 the drop rate is stupid

[ruby sky]

Good luck lol

[quartz thicket]

Ty, its like my 5th or 6th run so far

[ruby sky]

I bought out the entire bolt market last night and resold it. Made like 50 mil

[brazen crater]

new helmet?

[versed pine]

vida pattern

[quartz thicket]

Vida, duck helm

[ruby sky]

Duckov variant of killas helmet

[brazen crater]

ohhh that one

[ruby sky]

They sell for like 1.8 mil on flea

Honestly id say hold onto them. Couple months they'll sell for whatever you want

[quartz thicket]

the duck pate is still in the loot pool, does that mean the vida are still in his equip pool?

[last skiff]

@brazen crater the Vida one.

[ruby sky]

Anyone have the black division nods? That they're willing to part with?

[versed pine]

you can get black division gear?

[grizzled yoke]

gents, any pointers on my new post patch rd build?#weapon-modding message

[last skiff]

@quartz thicket yes . but is rare drop . I got it 4 times out of 89 .

[quartz thicket]

wtf is this, scav was just shooting me while his gun was pointed into the sky

[brazen crater]

you cant take black division stuff out of raid

once you escape you just get returned to stash what with you transfered in with

[quartz thicket]

thats any time you leave terminal tbf

[dreamy mantle]

...how can a box of ammo (9x39 BP) be incompatible with being put into an Items case

[brazen crater]

yea with deaths as well

[last skiff]

@brazen crater it was a glitch when they added terminal . Where you could get BD stuff out of scav box. but they changed it .

[brazen crater]

hmm

[versed pine]

temu items case, it's smaller than the paper ammo pack

[brazen crater]

i smell RMT

[ruby sky]

Oh my god they ruined my favorite non meta weapon builds

[quartz thicket]

just take stats off attachments fuck it

[ruby sky]

Oh my god the jail break doesnt do shit anymore wtf

Nooooo the acs stock is crap now

[versed pine]

wtf is this se-5 scalping. in the race to the bottom sellers are driving the price almost all the way down to mechanic's msrp lmao

[young frost]

its so over. tarkov has fallen

[marsh wing]

From what ive heard, yes. @drowsy juniper reported still getting some

[marsh wing]

I have ref :)

[quartz thicket]

Cool, i never got one so maybe ill find one one day lol

[young frost]

tagilla take me now. send me home

[drowsy juniper]

yh i got one like a day ago or so

[marsh wing]

See

[last skiff]

@marsh wing i can confirm , i'm currently farming killa and i got it only few times .

[quartz thicket]

i believed you

[marsh wing]

I need to wait for my 3 kits to get back from streets. Im not making a 4th NL545

[quartz thicket]

wtf did they do to my boi, 0 ergo 😭
#screenshots message

[versed pine]

what sci fi tv show did you take that thing out of

[brazen crater]

Looks like a mounted LMG and now performs like one!

[quartz thicket]

Probably Stargate

Give me a bipod!

[versed pine]

might as well get one of those steadicam gun mounts

[marsh wing]

Anyone know the changed to rpk 95rd?

[brazen crater]

thank god for cheap SE5 prices

[sturdy grove]

now with the new weapon changes we dont have to worry about shooting loud now

[quartz thicket]

The hip mounted MG belts? 😂 There was a dude at my airsoft field with one of those and an mg

[brazen crater]

dont needa buy any for my next 20 builds

[brazen crater]

kinda like the mounted sniper from the COD Ghosts campaign

[quartz thicket]

Never got into cod

[marsh wing]

What mean

[versed pine]

if you google images steadicam gun mount you'll see what i mean lmao

[forest python]

careful if yall go fortress scavs are in the walls again

such a great bug to encounter twice this wipe

[quartz thicket]

yeah ik, #pve-chat message 😄

[versed pine]

using that for airsoft is crazy lmao

[brazen crater]

loading into streets lets see how different these times are

[quartz thicket]

1:30 to get into shoreline probably not much more than that

[brazen crater]

aww man there was this cool scene where you used a sniper on one of those mounts in a baseball stadium

[marsh wing]

Took me less than 2 minutes yesterday

[burnt dawn]

do all the guns feel jumpier then before or is it my 4am ass just not pulling down on the mouse hard enough

[brazen crater]

im q'ing NA when i'm EU so ill see if its any slower

[marsh wing]

They optimized it more with this patch and the exit

[ruby sky]

Lol new best muzzle attachment for sig mcx blackout is the red 762 muzzle break.

[versed pine]

it's the change to your attachment stats

[brazen crater]

under 2 mins, 2 mins faster than before patch

[burnt dawn]

nah i get its the attachment stats but like hot damn they jump now

now we know why they added the m16a2 into the game

[brazen crater]

lvl 1 peacekeeper, more options for timmies

[compact folio]

Whats in the new update guys

[quartz thicket]

attachment nerfs

[brazen crater]

optimsation to menus and raid timers

[median gyro]

Wow, the loading out of maps is night and day!

[compact folio]

Fps boost?

[brazen crater]

nope you just leave raid faster and get into raids faster

[compact folio]

Ok thats good

[median gyro]

i just loaded back to the main menu after exiting in 10-20seconds?

[ruby sky]

I love how they did all these attachment changes but didnt fix any of the sight ergo issues. Also why does the 60 rnd pmag now have worse ergo than the surefire mag5 60 rounder on the m4

[median gyro]

honestly wasn't expecting this much of an improvement haha, im used to my whole pc locking up for a minute or two after each map

[brazen crater]

i js wish streets ran better

[ruby sky]

Yeah its bonkers how much of a difference it is. Also please tell me that, that is not actually you in your profile picture.

[gloomy widget]

didnt changed for me much, still 30-40s like before.

[median gyro]

ye it is?

[onyx depot]

one day it will.. just like crysis 2

[brazen crater]

atleast i can get 120 fps in a building, i lose 40 exiting the building

[burnt dawn]

on the plus side it doesnt take half a raid to load ak and m4 drums now

[ruby sky]

Bro come on, personal secruity on the internet. Sheeeeesh

[onyx depot]

just look at the floor the entire time.. 120 fps 😂

[median gyro]

I live in the uk mate no such thing here

[ruby sky]

Bro the ak308 is in over swing with a silencer no mater what now, with a mag not equipped. You have to take off the silencer just to get past over swing whaaaaaaat

[median gyro]

am I tripping or I am seeing messages getting insta deleted

[dreamy mantle]

they were.

[quartz thicket]

happens

[vale atlas]

bots or banned words

[onyx depot]

Yeah, coz BSG test their patches 😂

[last skiff]

@median gyro your photo is prob used in china tinder now :))

[brazen crater]

its me getting censored for spamming Ys in whey

[onyx depot]

im using it now on Grindr.. getting matches finally!

[median gyro]

hahahahaa

[vale atlas]

I used to use my real photo for discord too, for work. People started copying it for their own profile pictures. Sounds harmless but what if they start DM'ing 15 year olds?

[brazen crater]

stop messaging me on your fake acc smh

[vale atlas]

Big recommend avoiding that lol

[brazen crater]

then ya coworkers a nonce

[subtle valve]

15 is still pretty high number in such cases

[onyx depot]

huh? i never dm'd you 0.o

[vale atlas]

its not hte coworkers its the randoms in discord lol

They're who you have to worry about

[median gyro]

like i said mate i live in the uk they watch everything we do now anyways and probs still sell our information either way

[ruby sky]

Oh my god they killed the CQR FOREGRIP NOOOOOOO

[vale atlas]

I'm in the UK too lol, you know how serious the police take the internet nowadays

[brazen crater]

its a meme about the typa peeps to msg you on grindr

[median gyro]

i guessed pup xD

[onyx depot]

oh yeah!

[onyx depot]

it's a never ending problem

[quartz thicket]

jfc the underbarrel gives -41 ergo now

[brazen crater]

fucking love "Terry, 51" and his janky selfies

[onyx depot]

ahahahaahha 😂

[onyx depot]

or "Blake, 18" with no photo

[subtle valve]

M203 or the AK one?

[pseudo kayak]

when will ammo in safe pocket come back

[ruby sky]

Never

[brazen crater]

youre forgetting the phenomenal "STR8, curious"

[quartz thicket]

m203 gives -41, gp 25 gives -35

[onyx depot]

I literally just had one!

[pseudo kayak]

[vale atlas]

OK so who knows what muzzle breaks are good that dont blind you?

[subtle valve]

I'd really love they add M79 to the game, that would be sick

[brazen crater]

i mean m203 is larger no?

[ruby sky]

762 red is good

[vale atlas]

tyty

I've run silent for so long i cant remember which muzzle breaks were the problems lol

[last skiff]

@vale atlas i would recommend just try yourself.

[median gyro]

Why isn't Tagilla spawning :o, usually when I do any factory runs hes almost always there. 6 runs in a row now hes not shown up :o

[vale atlas]

I was trying to skip the testing, there are a lot of them lol. Likely already a go to meta that i was trying to skip ahead to

[brazen crater]

LETSGOOOOOOOOO

[onyx depot]

i said i wasn't interested and that he's not "str8" he told me to f off 😂

[ruby sky]

Alright, let's see if they made non meta guns better with these balance changes

[brazen crater]

anyone on that app isnt straight

[vale atlas]

idk this kinda feels like they just made it all overall worse lol

[quartz thicket]

Sounds like bsg to me

[median gyro]

Boss spawns been reduced recently anyone know?

[vale atlas]

Thanks Kojima

[idle summit]

Ah so a bunch of gun changes and bugs.... I want to buy ammo on the flea cmon

[versed pine]

i just want local goons spawns to match the bsg server goons spawns

[onyx depot]

"str8" 😂

[versed pine]

damn the se-5 is now selling for below cost

[brazen crater]

i got 20 of them for 10K cus why not

[vale atlas]

"Made the good things worse because people kept using them"

I'm never going to appreciate this "Balance" style lol

[quartz thicket]

Just get rid of stats at this point

[fresh shard]

Did the quest to great heights get reworked?

[onyx depot]

IRL weapon attachments are very user specific.. with very few actually being "better" than others..

[vale atlas]

I'm aware but thats not the perspective they approached this from at all lol

[onyx depot]

ofcourse not

[vale atlas]

Its "Numbers high, people use. Why people no use numbers low?"

[onyx depot]

it's BSG

[versed pine]

inb4 nikita makes a separate skill level for each individual attachment you have to grind: "your PMC must familiarize himself with this rifle stock by levelling it to 51 before it affects firearm performance to any noticeable degree"

[vale atlas]

"Make high number low"

[onyx depot]

They don't consult with experts at all.. they're game devs who know everything about firearms

[vale atlas]

Honestly thats a whole other hill to die on, i dont really care about realism here its just their methods of controlling our choices while not understanding those choices

It doesn't show a lot of understanding or foresight lol

[ruby sky]

Alright I was originally excited about the attachment changes but I can even build a akm with reasonable recoil to ergo ratio

[vale atlas]

Yes too many people were using good weapons so now there aren't any (Obviously an exagerration but still)

[ruby sky]

Wow the 7.62 aks are just flat out worse after these changes.

[sudden karma]

Yo! Does anyone know how I can level up charisma faster ? I need 30 points to reach Elite but I can't seem to figure out how to do it. Attention and Perception is already Elite and from Scav Case I get 0.1-0.2 everytime the scav comes 🙁 Does anyone know a faster way ? Also extracting doesn't grant me any charisma (as found on google). Thank you!

[vale atlas]

Doesn't it level up on spending money at traders?

[subtle valve]

Rk-2 foregrip is awesome now

[vale atlas]

or is that just in the tooltip for show? it might not work lol

[sudden karma]

Doesn't look like it

[vale atlas]

Didn't budge at all? could require bigger values but dont recommend testing that lol

[onyx depot]

All this foregrip ergo nonsense.. BSG obviously never heard of IPSC C-Clamp 😂

[ruby sky]

Wait a second, did they.... did they just put the attachment stats from arena into main tarkov and call it a balance pass

[vale atlas]

lmfao is that what they did?

I guess it makes it easier for them to keep everything updated but man

[ruby sky]

Hold on

Cus the ref vendor premade guns were all shit stats and now they're semi okay.

Also the juice cannon is 1000% not back

[sudden karma]

I sold 1 mil and something of valuables, 0.00 points, nothing

[grizzled yoke]

"bmd is better than red, but it blinds you more"
Is this a true statement?

[ruby sky]

Ive used the 3 part muzzle break since 1.0 I dont know what people are talking about with the it blinding you thing

[vale atlas]

It might be specifically on spending the money and not just "trading" in general? Check the tooltip on the skills menu it should be more specific

[subtle valve]

BMD is trash for NVGs, the blast is so blinding it is unplayable

For day raids it is fine tho, good stats etc

[grizzled yoke]

if you're using nvgs going suppressed seems like the best option no?

[rain bloom]

this is a terrible update holy

[subtle valve]

Either supressed or with flash hider instead of compensator

[sudden karma]

It only says it's improved by attention, perception (already elite) and intellect which is also impossible to level up :))

[rain bloom]

my previus 48 recoil build is now 55 recoil

[young frost]

try redditgripping a quadrail

[vale atlas]

Huh, i must be remembering wrong, sorry

[onyx depot]

LOL what is that?

[quartz thicket]

c clamp maybe? idk

[grizzled yoke]

the reddit grip is the c one

[sudden karma]

No worries, thank you.

[onyx depot]

why is it called that?

[vale atlas]

I imagine its the go to for all the shiny little tacticool fellas

[subtle valve]

What is impossible to level up? Intellect?

[vale atlas]

That sounds right, one of them is basically just not functional in any way lol

Pretty sure it is that one

[sudden karma]

Charisma. I am 30 points away from elite and it's borderline impossible

[ruby sky]

Intellect is easy to level.

[ruby sky]

Do a daily

[subtle valve]

I am lvl49 68/100

[young frost]

cus its only good for redditoid rangequeens who fear the quadrail cus the sharp edges hurt their soft hands

[sudden karma]

I refreshed the daily/weekly infinite amounts of time. No luck for charisma points

[onyx depot]

LOL

[vale atlas]

Tbh sharp edges near a grip sound like something you should want to avoid even if not a range queen lmao

[onyx depot]

Mechanic gloves*

[ruby sky]

Is your weapon maintenance maxed? If not, start buying broken guns of of fence and repair them your self with a repair kit. 10% of the skill gain from intelligence goes towards your charisma

[sudden karma]

I will try that. Thanks a bunch for the idea.

[ruby sky]

Scav case gives 0.4 skill points per use

[ruby sky]

Every 200k spent on insurance gives 0.4 skill point

[sudden karma]

Agree but it's soooooooo slow 😄

[vale atlas]

I thought you had to repair through traders to get charisma

[astral kindle]

Whats peoples opinion of stat changes?

[ruby sky]

Repair is the best basically. You get tons of charisma from repairing shit.

[grizzled yoke]

Meta slaves are crying

[quartz thicket]

effectively nerfs imo, typical bsg

[vale atlas]

Shortsighted, dumb.

[astral kindle]

Checked quickly and AFG is now best grip

[ruby sky]

Nope, 10% of intel skill gain goes to charisma

[sudden karma]

That makes sense, I will try it right away. Thanks again.

[vale atlas]

They went the typical "People are using good things we need to make them worse so thhey use the other stuff" avenue

[grizzled yoke]

How does afg compare to the rk-2?

[ruby sky]

Plus leveling your weapon maintenence is worth it.

[astral kindle]

Forgot check RK-2 but AFG is better than hera arms CQR

[young frost]

intcels rizzmaxxing

[ruby sky]

I was excited for an attachment balance, to get to use other stuff that looks cool that sucked. But now everything kinda just sucks

[vale atlas]

Can be expensive though, people know that you're trying to level weapon maintenance, some of the low durability stuff is priced stupid high, gotta try and beat the bots and others grabbing cheap low dura shit from fence

[grizzled yoke]

Rk2 is basically the same but without the heavy ergo minus

[astral kindle]

Oh wow

[sudden karma]

tbh you can run factory with a 6sh backpack and just get all the crap weapons from scavs/pmc

[vale atlas]

Way too slow for my liking lol, i was spamming that shit, repairing 50 weapons at a time and it still barely moved

[ruby sky]

Eh you can level 1-max weapon maintenance in like 4 hours of game time just by buying broken guns off of fence. Then you sell them to ref. You lose like 10/15%% of what you spend total

[vale atlas]

Well, it went faster than other skills that you'd grind but y'know

[ruby sky]

Gotta buy the guns lower than 50 durability. Sv98, shotguns, psh, kedr, fal, pp19s

[vale atlas]

I'm not sure those numbers still make sense lol, but i'll have to go back and look at them, i was losing way more than that selling stuff back to fence.

Main problem is beating the other people trying to get the cheap low dura shotguns and scav weapons etc. A lot of "This is already sold" then you go to the flea looking for similar and people are asking like 500k for low dura shit at times lol

But then i wasn't going the financially efficient route, i was going the fast route

[ruby sky]

So what you do is find a cheap item near the bottom of the weapon list, like the white or green ski mask. And instead of waiting for the refresh button to pop up, you buy the ski mask and it refreshes the fence tab every purchase

[vale atlas]

Is it actually refreshing the stock? I've been noticing it "updating" but so far haven't actually seen a difference in the listings when it happens lol

[ruby sky]

Thats how you beat the already sold issue

[vale atlas]

huh, the more you know

tyty

[ruby sky]

Theres a lot of hidden tricks to grabbing stuff of of fence

Theres even some places online that will tell you when the most likely time if the day for marked keys to show up on the fence from scav looting.

[subtle valve]

Just go labs and loot pistols from raiders each time, also do the same when going normal raids

[quartz thicket]

go back to christmas patch and farm santa

[vale atlas]

Oh i'm not trying to achieve this i maxed mine out a while back lol. I just remembered it being very expensive to do quickly

and our guy above was looking for fast charisma gains

Wait actually i dont think he said fast

[astral kindle]

Oh it looks BSG forgot great heights change from PvE

[vale atlas]

just any gains lol

[sudden karma]

That was me 😄 I need just 30 points so I will try the Fence idea. Thanks all

[ruby sky]

The other way is to have a shit load of money and wait until after dinner when all the losers get online and start posting their zeroed out guns that they are farming for money. They cost insane amounts though

[ruby sky]

Huh?

[vale atlas]

Lmao i wonder if this bricks any of the gunsmith builds

[astral kindle]

There was gonna be changes for great heights questline and people who did it would get compensation on arena

But no compensation in arena and no new quest in PvE which kinda suggests they forgot PvE again :C

[subtle valve]

Each fixing of a 50/100 weapon is 0.08-0.1 to charisma, just collect 4 trash pistols / smgs per raid and fix them

[ruby sky]

I have a feeling that there is gonna be some pretty significant battle dad back lash on the attachment changes by the end of the day.

[vale atlas]

Yeah thats not too bad for 30 points

Reddit and twitter will be frothing at the mouth of course, but when aren't they lol

[quartz thicket]

after the recoil camera buff

[vale atlas]

Those people are looking for a reason to argue

[subtle valve]

Like women

[vale atlas]

Your minds gonna be blown when you realise dudes are like that too

[subtle valve]

Nah, I'm chill

[vale atlas]

Fight me about it

[subtle valve]

Not gonna happen, sorry

[vale atlas]

Go on, tell me how wrong i am

You know you want to

[quartz thicket]

mad tsundre vibes rn

[vale atlas]

😂

[latent void]

Anyone have the chance to test the attachments balance changes?

[quartz thicket]

read the last hour of chat

[ruby sky]

We've been messing with them all morning. Theres screen shots in the https://discord.com/channels/521608697764380694/553559962438074371 channel

[latent void]

Perf thanks

[ruby sky]

Tldr, silencers are bad

Muzzle breaks are okay, and they made 7.62 aks even worse. And the fal is even worse.

the indisputable mvp of this patch is improved load in and exit match changes to improved load time. (mainly loud out times have drastically improved.)But even better, the flea has become soooooo responsive.

[sudden karma]

wow how fast you go out of the raid now !

[proud forge]

??codes

[quasi apex]

Redeem your goodies → https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/promo/activate (Or launcher → your name → activate code)
SBEUKOMAR | SCAVYBOI | GOONSQUAD | LIGHTSOUT | PAY2WIN | ELVISVISTA | INEEDSPACE

[subtle valve]

Using TKPD with SP ammo to blow scav legs to then nade them is so nice

Did 3/5 M67 nade kills on scavs in one raid

[onyx depot]

39 kills on reserve! I think they buffed something..

[atomic mirage]

anybody down to help me get a pkp? i killed kaban already a couple of times but he always had the m60. i have super low fps on streets so it's really hard to do anything on that map

[subtle valve]

PKP is like 10% chance?

[onyx depot]

i might have one :3

[atomic mirage]

idk, i'm hating having to go streets for it because i have like 25 fps at best and killing the boss 3 times got me like 5 deaths and no pkp

[atomic mirage]

you would save me

[onyx depot]

#screenshots message

[sudden karma]

If you don't manage lmk, I can help when I get back home in the evening

[atomic mirage]

thanks

[onyx depot]

you can only have 1 tho!

[atomic mirage]

🥺

[onyx depot]

can you play af servers?

[atomic mirage]

if i can i'll gladly take the one and never set eyes on one again after turning it in to mechanic

[cosmic meadow]

only 3 months later and this shit still broken lmaooo

[onyx depot]

it's oki.. im in south africa.. so can only play AF, worst case af Nigeria

check your ping

[atomic mirage]

i can try checking

[short flume]

dam my loud m4 build got absoultely clapped. My aem m4 build still pretty good though, seems like i only need to change pistol grip and front grip

[atomic mirage]

i can do af nigeria i think

[jovial geyser]

Ok guys i need serious help

[atomic mirage]

135 ping, i have 200 on af

[jovial geyser]

What attachments do i need for gunsmith part one if someone can dm me a picture that would be a massive help

[onyx depot]

135 on nigeria?

[onyx depot]

there is a very serious wiki page that can help with very serious problems..

[atomic mirage]

yes

[jovial geyser]

Where is this very serious page to help with my very serious problem?

[onyx depot]

google "very serious tarkov wiki page"

[jovial geyser]

Ill be honest idk the attachment system very well i mainly just enjoythe gun mechanics

[atomic mirage]

wanna call or should i just invite you in game?

[atomic mirage]

https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Gunsmith_-_Part_1

[onyx depot]

https://discord.com/channels/521608697764380694/1478414930498818250

[jovial geyser]

Thank you may ur next run be blessed with good loot

[orchid raptor]

after chemical part 3 what trader did you guys mark the van for?

[quartz thicket]

Always therapist, unless you have an inj case already

[orchid raptor]

i bought mine

[subtle valve]

Parmesan bring me yellow labs card... that was unexpected

[orchid raptor]

im kinda scared of finishing the quest because of the rep loss bro

0.25 is outrageous i dont even have 1 for my traders except for fence

[quartz thicket]

the quests to make up for it are super easy

[orchid raptor]

once you unlock ll4 do you lose it if you lose rep from a quest or something

[quartz thicket]

yes

[loud lance]

Yes, if you go back under the requirements

[quartz thicket]

You get quests to get that much rep back anyway. like 10 m67s, 1m rub, and 4 keys

[orchid raptor]

thank god

[cosmic patrol]

Yahhoo

[loud lance]

4 keys and 10 m67 wasn't too complicated

[quartz thicket]

the four keys are cheap, and none of it is FIR anyway

[loud lance]

1 key wasn't cheap for me

[quartz thicket]

probably storage? but that ones come down

[loud lance]

Yeah it was New gas storage indeed

[quartz thicket]

ooo military checkpoint key is at 250k rn

[spiral raven]

Do I see right that the RC2 with the warcomp is now bis for the NL

[dense sentinel]

holy shit i never thought to do that, ive just been grabbing guns from raiders i kill in labs when i have space lol

[quartz thicket]

rest of the keys are at under 11k though

[loud lance]

Checkpoint has a barter

And not that bad

[quartz thicket]

2 manual 2 stew and 4 vodka, not terrible

[languid night]

can anyone slip an avt onto fence i really want it to lighten the 7.62x54 box

[quartz thicket]

it would be nice if it stopped us from selecting more than the allowed listing limit on flea

[loud lance]

Yeah there is a ton of QoL missing in that ... 1.0

[quartz thicket]

Imagine if you could click the yellow check on items for it to take you to the quest for it 😲

[loud lance]

Stop it with your spells and magic. All that non-sense. Crazy lol

[quartz thicket]

God what i want the most is more hotkeys for shit in the stash. Like unloading ammo or doing a linked/filtered search

[loud lance]

I lost the Test Drive RPDN to the mailbox... so I don't really care

[loud lance]

Box selecting.. oof

[quartz thicket]

I'll take multi-item selection, I dont think they could handle box selecting lmao

[loud lance]

Multi is... ok

[dense sentinel]

so i added up how much all my current btc is worth thats sitting in its own scav junk box from my labs run and its currently at 110mil roubles

so im almost at enough money to fall back to the bad ending for that 500mil roubles if i fuck up savior

[ruby sky]

ah yes, the MP9 is flat out worse than before the patch.

also the 30 round mag for the vector 45 now gives more ergo than the 13 round pistol mag LMAO

right so the 45 vector is garbage now

lets see the 9m vector

9mm not great either

[glacial estuary]

I have a 15 minute estimated time for my PVE server to start, can I back out with Alt F4 or is it too late and I’ll be MIA?

[quartz thicket]

inb4 the garglers come in and praise the nerfs like they're gold plated

[distant obsidian]

Omg we got a weapon attachment patch!!!! I'm going to spend so much time after work building guns!!!

I've been waiting for a patch like this for awhile

[ruby sky]

lol the saiga pp-19-01 Vityaz 10 round magazine gives flat -1 ergo now LMAO

[ruby sky]

what map?

also both non silencer muzzle breaks for the pp-19-01 vityaz 9x19 have the same exact stats. WOW what variety i have now.

[onyx depot]

incredible!

[ruby sky]

lmao you can put 34 mm scope mounts on the pp19 now

this is hilarious

[onyx depot]

no ways!

[swift path]

You won't mia even if you can't withdraw, just reconnect

[golden thorn]

I put 30mms on mp5s for the funny and load green tracer

Also wasnt kerman supposed to blackmail prapor so ur rep would go back to normal after helping kerman?

[mental halo]

did they change the spawn rates of rusted bloody key? i just gott 2 in 4 raids

[distant obsidian]

any cool builds anyone came up with yet?

going to log in a bit before I have to go to work and see some stuff

[dawn cove]

i just know the SR-25 continues to SLAP, recoil in the low 60's

[worthy otter]

Hear me out- Five-Seven with an X400

[distant obsidian]

I always had an x400 on it

[ruby sky]

they're gonna have to change the changes they made. theres some gun thats you literraly cant do anything to not have over swing now. guns that arent lmgs or snipers.

[worthy otter]

Oh damn the game is just unplayable then huh

[distant obsidian]

holy fuck buying from the flea is so much faster

great patch and still people managhe to bitch about it

just cant make some people happy ever. misserable

[dawn cove]

ay no one bitching about the good stuff

[distant obsidian]

holy shit did they ever nerf supps. O man I cant wait to properly sit down and rebuild guns

[golden thorn]

Is the g lock suppressor also messed up?

[distant obsidian]

OMG 60s for 556 are viable to pack now

[golden thorn]

The m4sdk or whatever it is

[distant obsidian]

define messed up

[golden thorn]

Like the ergo

[distant obsidian]

-12 ergo for only 2.5 recoil for m4sd. Supps really are probably no good in pve anymore

[rare field]

@distant obsidian Surely, Icebreaker Tomorrow

[distant obsidian]

surely

[golden thorn]

Oh

[brazen crater]

ASR/Monster mini

[rare field]

This just an attachment patch?

[golden thorn]

I liked it since it had no muzzle flash

[rare field]

haven't logged in since that duck event

[jagged girder]

one of the best updates in a while and ppl still find sh bo b ab bruh

[golden thorn]

My internet has been messed up so I cant even play 😭😭

[jagged girder]

and sum bug fixes

[ruby sky]

Lol every single sa58 mag has negative ergo now other than the 10 rounder.

[distant obsidian]

yeah, but still cool. In my 5 mins of looks it seems like meta parts are still meta, but the gap is closer and it might be better to run un suppressed. TLDR

also 60s on the 556 are very viable now

[livid oxide]

this is a great patch. i've been using the same weapon build for years. now we have variety

[brazen crater]

youre not kidding wtf

[livid oxide]

i can run drum mags now

[distant obsidian]

I wouldnt say you have variety now. Meta is still meta except mags and supp

but its closer

[livid oxide]

yea but i can use other attachments without the gap being that large

[ruby sky]

Even better, the pistol mag for the vector 45 acp. Has negative ergo, but the 30 rounder has + ergo

[jagged girder]

finaly u can run drippy guns without looseing so much stats

[brazen crater]

[rare field]

I'll probly still wait till icebreaker pops up to log in

[ruby sky]

Wow the sa58 was bad before this patch but my god, I will definitely never use it now

I think the only gun so far that I have seen that was improved by the attachment balance was, the AS VAL MoD 4.

[onyx depot]

from one meta to another

Darwin would be proud 🙂

[golden thorn]

When is that coming btw?

[rancid tundra]

Q2

[ruby sky]

Oooo shit I wonder if the velociraptor is worse or better stock now

[distant obsidian]

faIR

[onyx depot]

Q2 (maybe)

[rare field]

Q2

[distant obsidian]

so 16" hanson is even better then the rest now LOL

[golden thorn]

Pls tell it it isnt garbage anymore

[distant obsidian]

or at least the gap is larger

[indigo knoll]

What are the biggest changes in the update ingame i havent played yet

[rancid tundra]

No more metaslop

[spiral raven]

Recoil silenced gets lower with the mk2 and aem5 though

[ruby sky]

It is slightly worse

[distant obsidian]

and tanks ergo

[spiral raven]

Definitely

[golden thorn]

Why😭😭😭

Can you even customize it irl?

[ruby sky]

I dont even think that thing is in production irl

So far the only thing that got flat out better with the patch is the as val mod4

[drowsy juniper]

what a disappointing update zzz

[golden thorn]

It wasnt already really good tho

[spiral raven]

Only 5 less than Hanson and warcomp+rc2

[wind minnow]

is there any way to link preexisting accounts to steam?

[worn quartz]

hi guys, pve server game awaiting time 20min seriously? haha

[spiral raven]

And not tan xD

[ruby sky]

What you dont want to use the rk1 hand grip again on every single gun like we had to 4 years ago?

[stone goblet]

yes if you purchase the game on steam and then link via bsg website

[rancid tundra]

Wait what. It was 1 minute half an hour ago

[drowsy juniper]

ik they wont but really hope this shit gets reversed

[brazen crater]

ak-12 suppressor gives -19 ergo for -2 recoil

[jolly hazel]

garbo changes ngl

[wind minnow]

is buying the game a second time the only way to link the accounts?

[rancid tundra]

Yup

[drowsy juniper]

What happenes to the 2nd account? was thinking of rebuying it as well tbf

[distant obsidian]

think I would jsut rather use hte bulltec. Unless the flash is to much

[rancid tundra]

2nd acc will be sacrifice for nikita

[spiral raven]

Seems ferfrans is better than jailbrake

[drowsy juniper]

aint no way

[golden thorn]

Why isnt pve bundled with the highest edition on steam😭😭😭

[distant obsidian]

jailbreak is ass

[drowsy juniper]

so you just lose an account

[golden thorn]

I always hated it for the muzzle flash😭😭

[distant obsidian]

you have to use a terrible barrel and the jailbreak it self is terrible

[vale atlas]

So you spend more money

[distant obsidian]

I love it for the sound, but the flash is to much

[ruby sky]

I wonder if all these attachment changes with make the AI struggle to hit anything

[vale atlas]

i dont think any of those stats affect AI accuracy tbh

[spiral raven]

Yeah I’m happy it’s not meta loud anymore

[rancid tundra]

They don't have any recoil

[ruby sky]

Yeah i figured

[golden thorn]

Isnt that why people were complaining? They bought the best edition on steam and it didn't include the pve mode

[jolly hazel]

No recoil, no inertia, no jams, no fks given

[ruby sky]

No more silencer ak 308 lmaoooooo

[vale atlas]

I think it predated that, EoD owners complained about that first, then they got it included anyway

[distant obsidian]

my sr25 builds ergo is in the shitter now. Going to have to rebuild that. Shame really cayse I love the MK11 supp look

[golden thorn]

Ai doesn't care about recoil

[vale atlas]

Aw man i dont want to run sr25 without a suppressor, thats like -100 cool points

[distant obsidian]

MDR is shit now to. Boooo

[golden thorn]

Have u seen tagilla with the full auto siga

[drowsy juniper]

or big pipes full auto perfect laserbeam across lighthouse when they are on WTP roof

[golden thorn]

Mmm apsx my beloved

Or knight with m61

Hiding in a bush

[jolly hazel]

I spawned in on Shorline and was literally already being shot by big pipe with the MCX from across the map. Saw that yellow tracer and already knew what was up.

[golden thorn]

Did they break the ai

[stone goblet]

it just merges into one

[golden thorn]

I hate how the broke the rogue ai

[stone goblet]

no but linking does nothing if you dont have the game on steam

[golden thorn]

Mmm yes gets shot from 400 meters and fires at you with an mcx for 1 second

Mind you at night

[jolly hazel]

Seems legit

[golden thorn]

Idk why they agro for 1 second

Same with the machine gun

That looks over thr road

[distant obsidian]

I do t think you know what 400m is

[golden thorn]

I do since I killed the dude with a sniper from the same area

😭😭

[distant obsidian]

Yeah, it's not 400m. There are very few lines in tarkov that gets you 400m kills

[golden thorn]

On lighthouse?

[jolly hazel]

bruh lighthouse...? plenty of 400+ meter kills

[golden thorn]

😭😭😭😭 bro I've gotten 800 meter shots

Lighthouse and woods are the few maps where u could get a 1km snipe

[vale atlas]

Every time i've gone to take that shot its shitty weather lol

[golden thorn]

Yuh i got lucky it was clear

[vale atlas]

My current longest shot is 400m but that was natural. Just happened to spot whatshisface at pier standing around doing nothing when i was leaving fishers island

[marsh wing]

Sani boy

[vale atlas]

I want that 1000m+ shot on my account though, to impress literally no-one

bigger numbers = cooler

[subtle valve]

Go to LK tower with .338 and shoot rouges. 1.5km shot from there

[marsh wing]

im just a little bit sad that it auto completed ref's new quests for me

[marsh wing]

#screenshots message

[quartz thicket]

ive seen it since then, but thank you lol, a lot flatter, i like the new text

[marsh wing]

well screw you then /s

[hollow birch]

i just chucked my bag on the ground at dome to snipe with two motors in it, not 2 mins later do i pick my bag back up and i lost one motor

[marsh wing]

im running low on 545 ammo..

[distant obsidian]

What tasks

[marsh wing]

did you not see?

[distant obsidian]

No?

[marsh wing]

maybe that was a dream...

give me like 5 mins

@distant obsidian #screenshots message

[manic pewter]

oh theyre autocompleted and we get the rewards for em or?

[marsh wing]

i dont know much about them, but i know there are new ones

[marsh wing]

i dont see anything

[plush panther]

since when can goons spawn in dorms?

[marsh wing]

they can make their way there

[plush panther]

all the way from fortress? damn, didn't know they move that much

[marsh wing]

yeah, they took me out the other day

[jolly hazel]

Knight once ran me down when I was extracting at car

[marsh wing]

scared the shit out of me. They rushed me before i could make my way back inside

[plush panther]

I just died to birdeye when I was just trying to do evil watchman

[marsh wing]

yeah, i was doing evil watchman, called in an airdrop, when i was about to grab it they rushed me

[jolly hazel]

Is it just me or does birdeye always seem to have BCP FMJ loaded? I've smoked the goons a bunch and every time it's BCP.

[swift path]

Never seen that before

But I did encounter him to have a m4 sniper set-up

That and your-ex, carrying 2 m4

[jolly hazel]

Yeah I've seen him a few times with a MK-12 looking m4

[distant obsidian]

O damn, free stuff

[cosmic patrol]

cheese

[manic pewter]

doesnt seem like it if youve finished to great heights before the update

[distant obsidian]

Ah, o well then

[manic pewter]

i have em as completed in my task overview with ref with 0 rewards for it what so ever

[distant obsidian]

Shame. O well

[loud lance]

Not really different than those dumb coop extract dailies. Makes no sense in PvE either.
I still have that REF quest to play Arena and win something... it says I have 3 days of Free access that I never got. Lucky that I don't care at all.

[distant obsidian]

You did get it.

It started right when the task was accepted or something

[marsh wing]

yeah, i dont have any new rewards

[distant obsidian]

Laaame. Ah well

[manic pewter]

17+88+11+296 GP and 2 lega medals that i seemingly cant get

[marsh wing]

rip. Yeah, happends to a lot of people

[manic pewter]

unless theyre all in arena, lemme check

[marsh wing]

296?!

[distant obsidian]

Probably not .. but still a good idea

[manic pewter]

yes, arena business gets you 296 GP

[marsh wing]

gah damn. All that put together is almost enough for a thicc item case

I CAN OPEN ARENA FASTER THAN YOU

[manic pewter]

also, Model 1 lowest vert recoil is now 56 😔

[distant obsidian]

Yeah. That's good

[manic pewter]

be my guest

[distant obsidian]

But you tank ergo hard for that. I'll have a 57/58 build with 60+ ergo myself

[marsh wing]

well, im trying

[broken lintel]

yo anyone wanna help me learn the game a bit just started

[marsh wing]

nah, im good right now. but thanks for the offer bro

[distant obsidian]

??sherpa

[quasi apex]

Sherpas are players who help beginners study the main game features and improve their skills to survive the harsh Tarkov environment. This difficult and honorable task falls on the shoulders of the most friendly, patient, and, of course, experienced Tarkov citizens.

Sherpas are volunteers who dedicate their time not only by teaching others but also studying Tarkov themselves, adding to their knowledge of the game. Selfless aid to new players greatly contributes to the growth of the Escape from Tarkov community.
When teaching beginners, Sherpas rely on their preferences in the game: location, weapons, equipment, tactical moves, and their unique gaming experience.

??sherpahub
#sherpa-info

[short flume]

seems like they reduced flash from muzzles?

[fervent drift]

Anyone got any tips for doing Capturing Outposts quests? First run goons are there and I die and now i remember playing solo sucks

[short flume]

dgn used to literally blind me 🙂

[marsh wing]

i cant open arena...

[distant obsidian]

Run each map 200 times and you might get it done

[manic pewter]

skill issue

[distant obsidian]

This

[manic pewter]

guess ill open it faster afterall

[marsh wing]

there are patch notes for it

[manic pewter]

i was referring to taco being unable to open arena

[short flume]

seems like for attaches so far
dd ecb -> moe
gral -> ergo
strike -> m-afg
anything else?

[willow tinsel]

youre able to kill scavs AFTER completing the task fence gives you for savior ending right?

[manic pewter]

yup

[willow tinsel]

nice

[manic pewter]

0 rewards to be seen, never getting a whiff of those 296 GP unless i reset then RIP

[distant obsidian]

Damn.

[distant obsidian]

I'm using the ACS over the moe

[manic pewter]

what a scam, back to tarkov then and looking how they messed with gun recoil

[distant obsidian]

Also se5 is still the best.

[loud lance]

Ask direct questions... or whatch tutorials if you don't know what you want to learn.

[short flume]

afg is same ergo less recoil

[jolly hazel]

They killed my sexy shorty 416 build, less ergo and more recoil...was nowhere near a meta build either

[distant obsidian]

Not that I saw. Was worse

I'll have to check after work

[distant obsidian]

It wasn't targetted build changes. Just overall sweeping changes.

[short flume]

ok well i double checked and se-5 is .1 ergo better but 1 and 2 recoil worse respectively

[jolly hazel]

Ik, it just happened to mess all my builds up

[loud lance]

Oh there is an update lol

[distant obsidian]

That was indeed the general idea yes

[jolly hazel]

Indeed

[marsh wing]

my nl545 is 38.7 ergo....

[distant obsidian]

Ah maybe I didn't look to closely. Shame if it is cause I like the se5. But the AFG will be WAY lighter because it doesn't need th mlok

[short flume]

yo did they just live update something???? LOL what the fuck

[distant obsidian]

Yeah, they really brought the range of stars in guns down. That's good.

The ceiling isn't as high and the floor isn't as low

[manic pewter]

the red ARE tube no longer has the extra stats over the normal ARE

[distant obsidian]

Yes it does. That was the first think I looked at

Better velocity and heat?? I know it's still better velocity

[manic pewter]

it doesnt anymore

[jolly hazel]

Does it still have the accuracy buff?

[distant obsidian]

It does. I just looked at it

[alpine vigil]

??events

[distant obsidian]

Or accuracy. It's still better

There is no event

[alpine vigil]

whats the purpose of the old house toilet key, is it just the guaranteed tank bat spawn?

[distant obsidian]

#eft-announcements

[jolly hazel]

Remaking your gun builds is the event

[distant obsidian]

Yes

[distant obsidian]

Second best event ever

[short flume]

my gun went from 55 157 recoil to 59 169>????

[distant obsidian]

Well yeah

[forest patio]

why tf is it so laggy all of a sudden. last night lag was awful so i thought it was update related but it still is after the update

[short flume]

i just fixed it this morning did they change something else

what im so confused

[distant obsidian]

Lag is your connection to the server.

[distant obsidian]

Could be hot fixes

[short flume]

[alpine vigil]

so the meta recoil guns are alll nonsuppressed i assume?

[forest patio]

thats another thing. i only play pve which is against bots so why is lag happening

[fervent peak]

Looks like my M4 hasn't lost much, but new builds ahoy~

[marsh wing]

so new best grip is the HK Ergo?

[lunar ice]

People use suppressors?

[forest patio]

local offline matches should not be going through this

[short flume]

i think they nerfed the red are

[manic pewter]

seemingly so, it used to be tied with the Gral

[forest patio]

on every gun i use

[distant obsidian]

That's how how PvE work.

[jolly hazel]

Sounds better

[marsh wing]

MY RED ARE IS THE SAME AS ARE NOW

[lunar ice]

I’ve been going loud for the longest time

[distant obsidian]

You still load into a server on PvE unless you click local host

[marsh wing]

Yeah, there is no point in using RED ARE anymore

[distant obsidian]

They must have pushed a hot fix in the last hour when I checked

[forest patio]

what does local host do? is progression turned off

[short flume]

yea the red are and regular are now the same

[distant obsidian]

It WAS better and hour ago

[lunar ice]

Only gun I like with a suppressor is the svd cause it sounds cool

[short flume]

i just bought a new one like 1-2 hours ago lmfaoo

[distant obsidian]

Local is running the whole game locally.

[distant obsidian]

Well fuck

[forest patio]

also its in the main menu too. my cursor is miles behind just trying to click a weapon

[jolly hazel]

I go loud on guns if the sound is good, can't stand the unsupressed m4's sfx for example. Although to be fair the suppressed one isn't much better

[distant obsidian]

Yeah that's a you issue. Go talk to the guys in #community-support

[marsh wing]

CMMG ripstock is better than GL-Shock now

4 extra ergo, 2 less recoil

Viper mod 1 is 1 ergo better and 1 recoil less

[distant obsidian]

Still mid tier ACS and MOE are still meta

[marsh wing]

ace socom with pad might be better

[distant obsidian]

How is the Urba gen2 compared to and MOE?

Urba is my fav in the game

[marsh wing]

what moe are you talking about

[distant obsidian]

The only Moe stock we have.

Meta stock for ever now.

[marsh wing]

viper and CMMG ripstock are better than moe

[distant obsidian]

You need the buttpad

[manic pewter]

for ergo yes but not for recoil

[distant obsidian]

Yeah, ACS is for recoil

Moe for ergo

[marsh wing]

what tube?

i can pull stats, i just need info lol

[sonic tendon]

so did they buff or debuff atachments?

[marsh wing]

yes

[short flume]

generally speaking nerf

but theyre more balanced now

[sonic tendon]

I assume buffed a lot of lower teir attachments? or did my SE5 and ARE red buffer tube get a huge nerf

[marsh wing]

ARE red is useless

its the same as ARE now and some others. SE-5 is still best from what ive heard

[manic pewter]

MOE has 10 ergo and 21% recoil using en ARE tube, the ECBs have the exact same stats when using the thin pad

[marsh wing]

wait up bro, ace socom is still better...

[manic pewter]

not sure why i mentioned the ARE tube, doesnt matter as its not part of the data

[hybrid ruin]

What transit exploits did they fix in the update?

[sturdy arch]

i took a break for a bit, was wondering if the story quests no longer have things like softlocks and such? i avoided playing the main quest cuz i didn't wanna get stuck and miss an ending

[marsh wing]

ACE Socom with pad is 15 ergo, 22 recoil

[sonic tendon]

so basically a bunch of attachments got nerfed oof.

[manic pewter]

HK slim stock is better than MOE

10 ergo and 21.5% recoil

[marsh wing]

go look at ACE Socom

woah, M7A1 is 18 ergo, 19.5 reocil

[hybrid ruin]

What does ergo do

[marsh wing]

VIPER PDW is 22 ergo 18 recoil

[manic pewter]

i think im blind, cant see it

[marsh wing]

buffer tube

[sonic tendon]

hey at least the big ass drum mags don't reduce ergo as much anymore

100 round TX15 go brrrrrrt. /s

[marsh wing]

viper pdw is best for ergo

[manic pewter]

ah, yeah

[compact folio]

guys, is yellow keycard good?

[manic pewter]

worse recoil stats on the socom though

[sturdy arch]

it's ADS speed, when you right click, how fast it'll shoulder and center the sights

[jolly hazel]

@manic pewter moe with the pad should be 10 ergo 23 recoil unless the gun builder I'm using on my phone isn't accurate

[short flume]

ok tldr me i'm using moe rn what do i swap it to

[manic pewter]

they changed recoil, MOE with pad is now 21% ercoil and 10 ergo

[jolly hazel]

Oof

[manic pewter]

they removed the -2% on the pad

[marsh wing]

so what is best now?

have we decided yet?

[jolly hazel]

Yes we know we no yes

[manic pewter]

well, HK Slim line is better than MOE thats for sure

[marsh wing]

i lowkey hate this fucking ergo pistol grip

ugly as shit

[manic pewter]

im not gonna use it

[jolly hazel]

It looks way worse than the gral

The PSG-1 called, it wants it grip back

[short flume]

ok yes hk slim is deifnitely better than moe

[marsh wing]

the F1 St2 is better than Gral now fyi

f1 is 5.3 ergo, .9 recoil, gral is 4.8 ergo, .7 recoil

[manic pewter]

what a fall from grace the gral has had jeez

[marsh wing]

f1 is 5.3 ergo, .9 recoil. HK Ergo is 5.6 ergo, 1.1 recoil

i think ill take the f1 for style points over that ugly ass ergo

[marsh wing]

so is HK slim better than the Viper or Ace Socom?

[short flume]

it should be much better than both

iunno why youre even looking at the viper or socom

[manic pewter]

slim is more of a middle line between ergo and recoil

[marsh wing]

1 sec

[manic pewter]

viper and socom both have more ergo but less recoil

[hybrid ruin]

There’s so many attachments with so many stats that it just gets overwhelming… I’m lvl 45 and still use the same foregrip and scope on every gun

[marsh wing]

yeah, viper PDW (not mod1) has 22 ergo and 18 recoil, best ergo out ther from what im seeing

[manic pewter]

if you want more a recoil build then you should use the GL-shock, if you want ergo you go for viper pdw

slim line for the best of both worlds

[jolly hazel]

the F1S2 paracord grip having less ergo than the non PC one is definitely a choice of all time

[marsh wing]

yeah its goofy

[marsh wing]

is the ergo hit really worth it for 4% more recoil?

[manic pewter]

best muzzle for 5.56 is the DGN556B

[hybrid ruin]

Why

[manic pewter]

depend

[manic pewter]

it has the lowest recoil stats

[marsh wing]

help explain to me

[short flume]

dgn unironically useable now. ive been using it on my loud m4 i can't tell if they did but i think they reduced the muzzle flash on it

[hybrid ruin]

Why would u want to run without a suppressor tho

[manic pewter]

because they changed recoil?

[short flume]

better ergo

[distant obsidian]

#eft-announcements

Because

[manic pewter]

had there not been an update i wouldve said the best muzzle for 5.56 is the G-LOK with a M4SD-K on the front but thats not the case anymore

[marsh wing]

HELP ME BROTHER

[short flume]

personally im an aem kinda guy

[manic pewter]

with what? explaining that recoil builds tend to not care about ergo?

[marsh wing]

i havent been able to understand which is better or what i should be doing

[short flume]

...

[manic pewter]

well, what do you want out of your gun first and foremost

[distant obsidian]

Can you post the difference between the Moe and Urba Gen2 stock?

[manic pewter]

do you want low recoil, or high ergo, or a mix of both

[manic pewter]

sure, give me one sec

[distant obsidian]

The goat

[hybrid ruin]

Is recoil really worth all the noise?

[marsh wing]

recoil is recoil, ergo is how fast i handle the gun, right?

[distant obsidian]

Did you read the patch notes? It's about the trade off and making that decision for yourself

[manic pewter]

thats for you to decide if you want to have less recoil or a quieter gun, literally the whole shtick with the update was for THAT to be the point

[loud raptor]

So now supressors have less ergo loss but how much compared to before?

[distant obsidian]

Yes. Weight also slows down a gun as well and doesn't get reflected in the ergo stat

[hybrid ruin]

I get that. That’s why I’m asking for your opinion :)

[distant obsidian]

Go look. It varies.

[manic pewter]

why the fuck does that matter what I run, im me, not you

[loud raptor]

okok but like a lot or it’s barely anything?

[manic pewter]

ill most likely run the DGN556B as i dont care for noise

[hybrid ruin]

I have NEVER even looked at recoil or ergo… I’m lvl 45 and still don’t look at any stats of guns. So just curious what u think

[distant obsidian]

I will be running guns statistically good and will make a few exceptions for look. How I always build gun. So that means most will be loud

How do you not look at gun stats. What in the fuck.

[distant obsidian]

A lot

[loud raptor]

I think the only silencer I use is the one on the sr25 else I go with loud guns

[short flume]

im seriously curious if they nerfed the muzzle flash or if it's just placebo, cause i swear the dgn would flashbang me every shot before

[hybrid ruin]

They’re totally optional. They haven’t changed the game for me at all

[loud raptor]

ks23 flashes

[short flume]

the dgn pre change was like i had camera shutter 😭

[distant obsidian]

[short flume]

but it was fun cause i would just mag dump with so much confidence

[distant obsidian]

Man, I wish I could go through life blissfully ignorant of everything lol

[manic pewter]

the DGN is slightly better than the Aeroknox

so likely not worth changing it out if you run that

[marsh wing]

im gonna go lay in bed and watch tiktok. Someone figure out the optimal NL545 build for me. (ill give you cookies)

[loud raptor]

tiktok still exists?

[short flume]

nl doesn't have that many attachments..

[distant obsidian]

Yeah, was going to use the dgn myself I think

[marsh wing]

But my brain hurty and attention span running thin

[loud raptor]

nl has the m4 attachments no?

[manic pewter]

aeroknox has 0.5% less recoil mitigation, but -3 dura burn, 0.5 more ergo and +4 accuracy

[loud raptor]

Unless you use the tan one

[manic pewter]

DGN has +1 dura burn and +2.2 cooling

both have roughly the same heat at -1 to -1.1

[loud raptor]

Wish I could use a watercooling on an as-val barrel

[manic pewter]

nahhhh, not the Vickers strats

[hybrid ruin]

Probably need to get better at shooting then lol. It’s a point and click game🫣

[fossil swan]

☝🏻

[marsh wing]

I ran out of adhd meds so its difficult to spend more than 30mins doing one thing

[manic pewter]

all in all i got the Model 1 down to about 54 vertical recoil again with the new changes without forfeiting too much ergo

[jolly hazel]

IDK if dude already answered it but the UBR has +7 e, -22 r, and -1 d. MOE/CTR on an ARE/Enhanced tube has +9.5 e, -21.5 r, -2 d

[manic pewter]

oh yeah, MOE and CTR are equal now

[short flume]

my builds rn are
silenced: 53 58 167
loud: 66 59 168

[manic pewter]

still, HK Slim Line is better than both anyways

[jolly hazel]

but theres no tan hk slim

[manic pewter]

then you use a MOE or CTR

[jolly hazel]

yurr

[manic pewter]

its a 0.5 recoil difference

nothing to write home about exactly

anyways, the Slim Line is a nice stock anyways in both looks and feel, im upset i only had the slim for like a month or so when i served as compared to the huge E1 stock

the E1 is nice and all, but it does not sit well in the shoulder with a plate carrier

better recoil absorption though irl

[sturdy grove]

ill think ill start grinding lighthouse because those cofdms are too hard to find
at least i found fireklean gun lubes for workbench and gun rack level 3
i want lightkeeper so bad and intelligence center level 3

[jolly hazel]

I like the SL-K IRL over the MOE/CTR, weird that it has less ergo than it in-game tho

[manic pewter]

ill probably do labs for cofdms

[jolly hazel]

pkpts on reserve is ez cofdm farm

[manic pewter]

ive been there a bit, found fuck all

[short flume]

labs is not the move for cofdms lol

i can vouch for pkpts

[manic pewter]

a couple figurines but never a cofdm

ill just need to go more

[jolly hazel]

how many times have you hit the room? I still have the key and found enough for my buddy and myself

check under everything

[short flume]

the room pays for itself, i've found bitcoin and pfilter in there too

[manic pewter]

4 or 5 times tbf as i didnt have the key myself, ill probably get it anyways as i got a PKPM key

[jolly hazel]

Best of luck

[thorn token]

Reserve is def the best place for cofdms

Multiple spawns on the map too for just loose spawns

[manic pewter]

shame you cant extend the stock on guns in tarkov

[jolly hazel]

IKR

[thorn token]

One in the radar station and one under the metal platform outside d2 exfil

[manic pewter]

id love to have it all the way out like i would irl

[swift path]

It seems this new update ruined most of guns...

[manic pewter]

nah

[jolly hazel]

also weird that you can't collapse stocks you should be able to

[short flume]

btw why do people even need the blood rusty key for? is the quest required for kappa or someshit?

[marsh wing]

Send the build, or else

[jolly hazel]

rusted isnt kappa required

[manic pewter]

sure, gimme one sec

[short flume]

then what's the point of the quest

[marsh wing]

Mechanic has a quest, "The Door."

[marsh wing]

Exp and the friends we made along the way

Its the end of The Signal questline

[jolly hazel]

streets can go in a ditch and die

[short flume]

i agree

[sage marsh]

anything important with that update?

[short flume]

i get 30-60 fps in streets

[marsh wing]

All attachments are now different than before basically

Time to redo your gun builds

[sage marsh]

unlikely

[jolly hazel]

yeah my PC is cooked on streets, and just when I thought I did all the streets tasks I needed with kappa I still have to go back for the main quest lines

[sage marsh]

unfortunate

[marsh wing]

Hell you mean unlikely?

[manic pewter]

Gral is no longer top dog for grips, HK Slim Line is better than MOE, red ARE tube no longer has benefits over its counterpart and suppressed is no longer best but i assume you know that already

[sage marsh]

interesting.

[inland elk]

anyone else having scavs sliding across the screen?

[short flume]

i planned to upgrade this year but uh..... yea we all know what happened

[sage marsh]

the red tubes are gonna plummet in price now then

[manic pewter]

oh, forgot to mention, not sure if it was part of the update or not but the LoPro is better than the Mk12 gas block now

[spiral raven]

Ferfrans + CRD is best for 556 and NL not the dgn

[viscid bone]

whats the best grip now?

[manic pewter]

HK ergo

[viscid bone]

Hk meta grip and stock huh

[jolly hazel]

F1S2 non paracord is 2nd

[manic pewter]

i use the F1 St2 because it looks better though

its only slightly worse than the HK ergo anyways

[sage marsh]

so this update was meant to kill the meta..just changed it xD

[dry sandal]

Anyone looking to complete terminal ?