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"Yeah, that came out during the No Alignments era." and "That came out during the Typically X Alignment era" is a funny concept to me
Since it had backgrounds that gave Tough, Skilled, and something else.
ah yes, i remember those now.
I actually really enjoyed those
"Ah yes tha adventure was made in the monster races era where Orcs inherently had -2 int"
They had been testing those since Spelljammer though. Or was it Dragonlance? One of those books
That camr out during the "Volo's Racism Arc"
Both!
I mean the ones that became the standard core origin feats
Dragonlance was setting specific feats though
But Spelljammer gave instructions on taking feats if you chose a non-spelljammer background
Not setting origin feats.
Origin Feats are really nice. Could do with some tweaking, some General Feats should be Origin Feats imo. I think overall its a great setup
I dunno, I always found it handy to have a separate book, once I had learned a paricular edition, so I really only needed to have that one open for referral
But yeah the 2020s were a messy ride.
I wish General Feats had Level 8 and Level 12 Feats. Not even Feat Trees necessarily, just Feats that require u to be a higher level
We had stuff like Icewind Dale and Quests from the Infinite Staircase which was pretty good.
Then we had Spelljammer and Eve of Ruin that justified the removal of the people beforehand.
I think dragonlance was a rough adventure, too
Dragonlance was just so people would shut up about Dragonlance. Same with Spelljammer.
They've been doing similar things (characters starting with ""more power"") in nearly every single setting book in 5e (barring like. SCAG). Ravnica (one of the earliest setting books for 5e btw) with its backgrounds, dragonmarks in the og eberron release, supernatural gifts, piety, dark gifts, etc. The heroic chronicle in wildemount. And eventually just settling on "backgrounds granting feats explicitly and directly" for everything that came after
2022-2023 was a really weird time for 5e. Golden Vault and Book of Many Things feel like they were scraping the barrel for ideas, despite having a million ideas untouched.
I think they accidentally made a decent adventure inspiration with Dragonlance that shows how to run a war campaign
I would far rather those than any sort of feat trees
I like the Paths they're testing with Definitely Not Book of Vile Darkness UA.
I'd like to see those become a thing for other stuff.
I hate that they are feat trees
wait did we get any content in 2024? Or were they just working on 5.5?
The concept is fine. The feat trees of it all is not. The 5e feat system. Does not work with it nicely.
Quests from the Infinite Staircase and Eve of Ruin
One last banger and one last crapper.
Infinite Staircase, Eve of Ruin, then PHB and DMG '24
The piety/renown system (in the dmg for the record) just works. So much better for the concept of paths.
(Unified subclass levels would've been better for it but alas. That ship sailed during the 2024 UAs)
Unified Subclass Levels my beloved
Originally the "Netherils Fall" supplement was meant to be the original ending to Eve of Ruin and was what they were teasing in several adventures leading up to Eve of Ruin
Ever of ruin was definitely a strange adventure.
Lets jump to all of the places that you love
But old WotC said "we got one last disappointment in us!"
Yeah, ROTF had ties to Netheril
And cut it out late in development leading to a mid adventure at best
Part of me thinks they were trying to hop onto the Multiverse gimmick
if Avengers is doing it...
literally what I was thinking. Or like, an avengers thing where you bring all of the different stories together
I think it was clear that Crawford and Perkins didn't wanna be working on dnd anymore with how lazy some products were.
Like Spelljammer was supposed to be a "vibes based supplement"
So they gave you half a book of ship statblocks and said to never use them and to go to FR.
And there was one System that was straight cut out completely from Spelljammer and Light of Xarxys
Which was Doomedspace (Athas)
Doomspace (Formerly Athasspace)
Paths would literally be the perfect name for "subclass that can be chosen by multiple classes". Its so sad
also it was not cut
The "5e will never do dark sun" guy found out about it and he came down like a hawk
Doomspace is in the adventure
Ima guess it doesn't mention Athas at all tho
no, cuz its not Athas
most rpgs get by just fine with a single core rulebook!
Ah so Athas was destroyed or something
Or was it thrust into a pocket dimension like Eberron was
For better or worse there was a similar amount of content in the 5e spelljammer release as there was to the original spelljammer release
Its not dissimilar to a lot of the "5e didnt go over the whole A to Z of everything about a topic that has existed in dnd before" when said topic got the whole A to Z via 2 morbillion expansion books
if anything i feel like you could at least combine the phb & dmg as a single core rulebook, and let monsters be a separate book since those are closer to content than rules anyway
True. Ig the community fixes it at least tho
nah Eberron got thrust out of its pocket dimension
I meant like how Eberron used to be in its own pocket
Admittedly I think Monsters and How To Run Them could be 1 book
Still I'm surprised they even let that adventure go near what could potentially be associated with Athas.
they never refer to it as Athas or anything, they can have a dying solar system that isnt Athas
Ye but it was close enough that people believed it to be enough that it's a thing.
Seems out of character for how risk averse the wotc of said time was.
I would've expected no dying system at all.
How good is the dueling fighting style?
Good
no, they straight up advertised it as Athasspace initially, thats why there's a misconception at all. They released a DDB blog post featuring the Map of Wildspace Systems, and the one thats currently labelled Doomspace was previously labelled Athasspace
Ah so either an accidental misadvertisement or initially it was meant to be Athasspace, then they changed it to prevent any potential connection.
Its still there
As far as we know it was changed in development
yeah but now you can Spelljam into it for whatever reason
(Its also why we got a lot of athas related statblocks in spelljammer)
Thats always nebulously been possible just by the nature of eberron being connected to the wider dndmultiverse at all
Its whole thing in canon was "difficult to reach" but not necessarily impossible
(As nice as it would be for it to be its own entirely separate thing unfortunately dnd has literally never worked that way)
Ye so my guess is during development was when they realized that using Athas at all will cause more controversy.
Maybe, maybe not
Frankly they probably just realized they didn't want to write off the setting entirely "just in case"
(Which is what would've been done given the context of doomspace)
I do think if the all signs pointing to Dark Sun 5e as the last book this year is true then there will be some controversy regardless. Whether that controversy is just usual idiots screaming about nonsense on their blogs and to the press or having an actual argument relies on how WotC handle it.
I would expect an actual announcement within the next month if it is
Gencon (specifically aug 1) they're supposedly announcing something
If Ravenlofts good that'll make yet another good product from the current people.
And Dan Ayoubs push for a Greyhawk guide with Luke Gygax, New Dragonlance stuff from the Dragonlance people, and acknowledging Ed Greenwood and the FR Wiki in the FR books was another good for goodwill move
They've already made themselves pretty standout compared to the old guard. Reconciling with a few important communal figures and making products that are so far worth the print they've been on, and if Ravenloft maintains that trend, that's a lot of cushion against screaming babbling on the internet for "having bad things happen in a fantasy world"
Like certain YTers who quit or went on hiatus due to new wotc not screwing up enough for them to dramafarm for example would probably come back to dramafarm Dark Sun if it gets announced.
im pretty happy with what i have seen from Dan A too
How do yall think, would a weakened god be immune to paralyzed condition?
Gods are inherently immune to mortal magic normally, unless you mean the Avatar of a God?
Do gods have a body to be paralyzed ?
What does the statblock say?
Idk, its some kind of a weakened sand god, that our group should either use a staff of power to lock away, break the staff and hope to not die, or try to kill (through an NPC we know that its possible) and im wondering if its worth using hold monster on it
You're in the realm of homebrew and DM fiat, the rules don't cover this.
Im not the dm
This one apparently does
Oh it’s up to the DM then
Oh then Goodluck. You can try and paralyze it and hope for the best
Alright, thanks
Same. If I'm happy with Ravenloft, I'll have Arcana Unleashed ready to pre-order probably.
ravenloft does look interesting to me seeing as i'm midway into a cos game atm. I'm thinking of at least getting the tarroka deck
Assuming its body is made of sand and can become incorporeal i would guess probably not but that's entirely up to the dm
I guess Evoker, but really any subclass will do
Librarian: hands my mini minotuar a book that's super important to the plot
My mini minotuar: looks at the book intensely, seemingly reading it "mhm mhm, yes, I see, oh wow"
Party: "well! What is it?"
Me:"I don't know I can't read"
I support this
This is a good question for #optimization
Hi
One of my players is always missing sessions and when he is there is wanting to leave an hour and a half before the end of the session
He's always like "I can be there but only until X time" or "I can show up but I have to leave at X time"
And I told him just don't come. Just stop showing up.
I'm not dealing with party members leaving in the middle of the session anymore I'm done with it
Doesn't seem like they're a good fit for your game.
Sometimes schedules just don't align
Yeah its unfortunate but it is what it is, F
Quite irresponsible for them to keep showing up and leaving instead of quitting
Reminds me of a player that was in the same game I am in now. Kept not showing up last second, and the one time he did show, he was late, and left early.
last second cancellations are the worst 
agreed i'd rather they just quit than constantly cancel last minute
My power ranking:
No call no show > cancel after start time > 5 mins before > day of > leave early
insane ranking but i agree
I just booted a player yesterday for lack of attendance and communication
The problem isn't that he's cancelling
Totally fair thing to say to someone who can't make the time
It's that he'll be like "I can't play this week" then I get to the game store and he's sitting there playing Warhammer
Clearly he could have made it to the session he's just choosing other shit over it
So I'm done he's not welcome back at my table
I think of my campaigns as a commitment, not a week by week decision. Wow guy…
I didn’t walk in on the guy I booted, but I suspected he was choosing to play Magic at his LGS instead
Yeah, and like fair enough if you want to do other things instead of DnD. But you gotta use your big boy words and communicate that instead of just flaking
Exactly what we all said. Let’s be an adult about it
I mean if he told me he wanted to play Warhammer instead of D&D several weeks in a row I'm still kicking him out of the game
So I used my big boy words to remove him lol
Yo guys im looking for a dm whih channel should i go
Oh yeah I agree, if you don't wanna play DnD just say that and leave. Don't force the DM to boot you lol
Hello
Hell one of my players showed up for the first session of the game and then decided he didn't wanna keep missing out on MTG night at the store so he left my game, and he told me that
And it's totally fine if he at any point decided he wants to play D&D consistently again he'd be welcome back
Because he communicated to me that he was going to drop out and why
Yep exactly, thats someone I'd welcome back
Anyone wanna dnd
Can someone guide for sending a request to a dm
Group formation/solicitation is only permitted in the looking for channels. Please read #find-a-game to learn how those spaces work
@real pine see the above post to learn how to make posts and find a dm
Read*
Honestly a terrible system I've been here for years and found 0 groups
Finally got my AA degree
There’s no guarantee of getting into a game unfortunately unless you’re paying for a seat
Congrats on sobriety
I always get into a game because I run them 
My Associates degree
You can also check out #looking-for-community to find other D&D servers that offer games
Payed games are expensive and honestly not worth
thats why you gotta play paid games, payed games are like pushing rope
If I pay session one I want a phase spider mount
in all my years of playing dnd ive never been interested in paid games 
....what does that word mean?
watch this guy crumble
Basically just gross garbage
hi all, so have a reasonable/unreasonable ask?
my character is basically an outdoorsy wilderness scout, and I have +6 proficiency is perception, which is where I've shined so far in out of combat situations (scouting ahead etc).
we hit level 4 so we're taking feats and one of my fellow players at our table is taking skill expert. they told me they want to pick perception for their skill to gain expertise in.
I'm kinda worried this sort of upstages my char's best skill, since they'll now have +7 and continue to outscale me as prof bonus increases.
i know typically it's always good to have good perception for group average checks, our DM so far has asked for 1 person to do perception checks. friend also already took the skilled origin feat, so they have 9 total skills they're proficient in to choose from
would it be weird to ask them to pick something else to gain expertise in? or am i overthinking this altogether
What does that word mean though
Which word
it can def be frustrating to have your specialty be overshadowed by somebody else. Not unreasonable to ask, but unreasonable to expect them to comply. Feel free to request it but be prepared for them to say no
the word before "slop"
maybe your DM can let the two of you work to perceive different things while you travel/search and compromise there on differing checks with the same skill
It feels like you may be overthinking. Just because one character is good at something doesn't mean others cant be.
Plus, you may not always succeed, or they can take a shift for watch and stand a better chance to succeed.
What does it mean
Pushing rope? What?
Yes, I'm unfamilar with that word before the word "slop". What is it?
yeah paying is to let rope run off a boat and to slacken a line, can't speed rope up by pushing it frfr
Can you type it?
I don't understand what you mean at all.
Running dnd games is my full time job, I feed My family by doing it
A quick google of the word led to many discussions saying its a slur, so I just wanted to see if it had a different meaning for you
For sure it does
paid games are great, you just don't want a payed game fr
for sure
I feel like a LOT of the really good DMs have moved to paid DMing, which is good for them. And the time and literal money that goes into DMing can make it worth it, but it's not something I can really afford
I stopped doing paid DMing because i got a job paying me actual money, I kinda miss it
You still are not making any sense, loads of folks pay for games I have a wait list
This is blatantly anti semitic
Did you keep the same players in your games? Or did they cycle through a lot? That's something I would be concerned about
Paid games are scams and unless you're running 3 sessions a month at least for flat rates I don't see it
Thats an anti semitic term
Same group of 8 players for like 2 years, side game of 5 players
doesnt goy literally mean non-jew tho
okay thats pretty awesome
We'd meet 1-2 times a month, good times
Yes and by saying that a paid game is goy slop implies that it's a ploy by someone Jewish to leverage money out of non Jewish people
I believe they are trying to be funny.. as if payed is a different thing than paid and not a typo. Because that user was a bit pedantic with a typo earlier.
Which plays into an harmful stereotype
I appreciate you adding trying in there lol
wouldn't it like, be the opposite, as in, slop made by a goy?
or am i being dumb
What did I walk into
No the intention of the term is that it's slop made for them
Oh here I go assuming folks are being genuine again, silly me.
thats stupid
The original message is deleted though, so im going to delete my reference to it
im not
Does it count if I am just a genuinely silly guy 
Isn't how you start the race it's how you finish
No?
im just saying goyslop is a stupid name
I've considered getting into it, I'm currently a college student and could use a littttle bit of extra 
But the market does seem relatively saturated
Hey, is that the sound of modrons coming closer I hear?
Yeah thats exactly why I did it. VERY saturated now
Are langoliers modrons?
Stop saying it ffs
You know, I could believe that.
what does ffs mean
For fork's sake
Saying what?
for faerun's sake
For Freedom's Sake 🦅
CAAAAAAAAW!!!! 🦅
Langoliers! Wow that’s an obscure reference unless there’s something I don’t know
The only thing I know it from is the thing you're thinking of
Perhaps if they're attached to a particular celestial with an interest in keeping the timeline free of detritus?
the stephen king book/mini-series
Langoliers. They're what happens to yesterday when it becomes today.
Yep that’s the one! I saw the 2 part series on TV as a kid
I wonder if there are any other note worthy "overgods" persay
Succinct!
Same!
The little girl dying gave me nightmares
Spoiler alert i guess?
Next you'll be saying that telling them ||IT isn't really a clown|| is a spoiler.
there were some in older edititions i think
Its definitely not an ancient form of energy that's almost as old as the universe
Dang. There's a thought. What if dragons aren't really dragons? Hmm. Good point, what difference would it make? Hmm. Need to pin this for world-building at some point.
Or that stephen king is ||from maine||
Flying lizards that talk and have magical breath and like to collect things?!
DRAGONS ARENT REAL. Wake up sheeple!!!!
(What we call a dragon is a four-dimensional shadow of a far greater being - yes, very conceptual, but: so?)
Dragons are a lie made up by the leaders of waterdeep to get you to pay adventurers stupid amounts of money
curious but is there anyway to animate undead creatures from the bestiary? ik animate dead has skeletons and zombies with grim hollow adding spells to animate cr 2 and 3 undead creatures but i was hoping to find a way to animate even more powerful ones
nah waterdeep is made up by dragons to uhh idk
Not outside of asking your DM and them homebrewing it.
I need to find players who hate their families as much as I hate mine
just wanted to check if there was anything official before homebrewing
Create Undead allows you to animate wights and mummies
but i guess a mummy is cr3 for a NINTH level spell slot
create undead is for ghouls
At Higher Levels. When you cast this spell using a 7th-level spell slot, you can animate or reassert control over four ghouls. When you cast this spell using an 8th-level spell slot, you can animate or reassert control over five ghouls or two ghasts or wights. When you cast this spell using a 9th-level spell slot, you can animate or reassert control over six ghouls, three ghasts or wights, or two mummies.
How would y'all make the pied piper in DND, in a way that isn't just an annoying charm dependent on hearing? I do plan on having that as a effect, having the DC to resist the control start at like 5 and increase as more rounds continue without the players covering their ears.
oh yeah sorry didnt catch that. sorta figured it was just the control more effect at higher level
as in how to homebrew that mechanic, or how to make a character styled around the pied piper?
tf is a pied piper
The Hellfire Club starter set has a pied piper encounter in it
a what
i always thought it was a flute, not an ocarina
i think you are right
oh the rat catcher
A disgruntled, unpaid contractor.
Ya gotta avoid that situation, it doesn't end well
How to make a good mechanic around the hypnotizing powers, how the character would be is some form of chaotic alignment, most likely.
It's a piper, who is pied.
That's not even a joke, it's a flutist whos colorfully clothed (pied)
I'll take a look
the glamour bard has a pretty good base for it. could steal their beguiling magic feature and alter it to suit your needs - every time creature does x, it can choose a character to attempt to charm
yeah no i just realised that in english yall call the rat catcher of hameln a pied piper
that sounds like a name for a way to prepare potatoes
it probably is, fairytales all have odd names
how is the hellfire starter box?
I've heard good thing
depends how much you like stranger things i suppose. i've not played it, but a few of my DM friends have and don't have amazing opinions on it
thinking of having the piper be some sort of fey creature
as for actual content, i think it supplies enough things for a beginner, but if you're not super into stranger things you may like some of the other starter sets instead
Meant as an entry point into the hobby for fans of the show, if you and your players are that, have at it. Otherwise, you may want to consider other starter sets.
Hey guys! Is there anything in the phb about barbarians getting 12d6 healing from a feature or smth?
I can def steal enthralling performance
thats a lot of healing
definitely doesn't sound official unless your player has some incredible loophole
well we dont know ur whole parties build do we
Ik,the barbarian from my party...has that? At lvl...5?
using an allies spell slot?
I don't get it,it's nowhere in the rules yo be found
they're definitely lying about something then. ask to look at their character sheet
No...it's just like...he has 18d6 of pure healing for himself that he can just use whenever he wants,evidently
can you look at their character sheet?
I can't think of a witty and geopolitically based response to this without knowing your native language so I'm just gonna take the L on this one
I mean prolly if i ask
he may have misinterpretted some rules
is the barb dating the DM
only explanation that comes to mind
Funnily enough the dm doesn't even like the barb that much
its not an L its just unique
very much so
pied piper...
I have the feeling some rules got heavily misinterpreted on this and the dm is an upstanding guy
honestly tho that's hilarious
I love critter db
bring it up to the dm and ask to look through the guy's character sheet. if there's no obvious source of the healing then they shouldn't be using it
Like...he could do this from level 3.
i mean 6d12 healing on a short rest isnt unheard of for Barbarians
Wait wait wait how and why
but that would take a short rest and would just be hit dice that amybody could use
at any point they so choose, and at that low of a level, is quite unreasonable
Oh no
When you shortrest you can use your hitdice to heal?
I misunderstood it
most likely a misinterpretation of a subclass feature?
Barbarians have a d12 hit die, at level 6 and higher, they have enough hit dice to do 6d12 healing over a Short Rest.
what subclass is lil vro
Yeah i get it
You get an amount of hitdice equal to your level
I'm thinking it is a misinterpretation of how Hit Dice work tbh
yeah, i be this is the misinterpretation
I have...no idea,wildheart mabye
ah. the charlie day subclass (it said wildcard before the edit)
you mean wild magic?
Yh I don't think barbarians can stack short rest healing or smth
No,heart
Have you considered asking this player outright
path of the wildheart is a subclass in 2024
Tbh I was just looking at the barb rules when it struck me like 2 min ago,I just thought it was a barbarian feature until now
Definetly ask them and report back to us, I'm very curious how they'd respond
oh, 2024.
I asked the dm once about it and he went yeah,2024 barbs are that op
Yh defo
Tmr in fact
It should be obvious to players that they need to cover their ears with something if they encounter a guy who pulls out a flute in response to them drawing weapons, but I know some of them won't get it at first.
Players after all,the bard might team up with flute guy
I doubt it if I implement pied piper like in the tale where he kills kids
Probably gonna leave my Saturday evening game. We haven't played in over a month because we keep canceling due to one player's anxiety
imo it's hard to apply that sort of logic to a situation when you're already putting focus into interpreting the dm's description of the scene and looking at your character sheet to decide what action to take next
I'm about to solve it for them and just leave the game so it can't happen anymore because it only has 3 players
that does sound really irritating
true, perhaps I should establish that the music is bad by doing it like the story
Oh,THAT guy
have him be a scorned contractor
yeah definitely place focus on how the sound is affecting them, not just 'this is his ability, you take 3d12 psychic and are charmed'
Has anyone else based their BBEG of a random dream they had
Im just so tired of it. I'm tired of "Anxiety" ruling my D&D games with an iron grip. I'm gonna start hard denying people with any signs of anxiety because I'm tired of being forced to be at the whim of people's anxiety
anyways baii yall ima go eep now :3
i don't think it's a great idea to outright bar anyone who shows any sign of being anxious, but it should be the responsibility of your players to manage themselves when committing to a game and yeah you do reserve every right to remove them if they can't manage that
something about the music being enchanting, maybe he already took the kids, but the townspeople don't remember how ( due to the enchantment) and the party is sent to save them.
just don't think it's amazing to ban them from the get-go
I wouldn't specify anxiety tbh. I would make it a hard rule about anyone who has complications that make it hard for people to show up. You can be empathetic to someone who has hurdles in their life but that doesn't mean you have be OK with games being postponed. Just really dont single out people with anxiety imo
If I describe a colorfully dressed man who abducted kids, the party might even just instantly understand who it is lol.
or they think its just a billionare
If they're so rattled by their nerves that the biweekly D&D game gets cancelled every week, then they're making their anxiety into everybody else's problem.
at that description there are a million things that come to mind before pied piper
I'm done dealing with it
LMAO
perhaps, I only think pied piper because I already know
As in they have social anxiety and struggle to attend? Or they're dealing with anxiety from something else in their life (somehow preventing them from making the session)?
Again not anxiety specifically but just the fact they are constantly canceling session is a good enough reason. If say I got into a game with you and said "sorry my wife is very sick with a disease so I have to cancel tonight" over and over you have the right to ban me. It's not you or your tables responsibility to look after MY sick wife.
I'm tired of being expected to jump through flaming hoops to cater to the anxiety of grown adults who take the fact that they're super anxious and say "I'm gonna join a game where socialization is mandatory"
It's like having broken arms and legs and begging your friends to take you rock climbing with them
I haven't played in this game in over a month over this one player canceling due to anxiety all the time
I don't care if it sounds harsh anymore. I'm done with flaky players.
I can't anymore I haven't played D&D in over a month because of people cancelling left and right
And that's with me having 3 games a week
3 games a week and haven't played in over a month
Boom right there "flaky player" that's perfect. Have a hard rule against flaky player no matter the reason. Good bad. If you're flaky ban them all. It's valid rule and doesn't single out any one
If you have to keep canceling for one person that's unacceptable imo, the show must go on
The game has 3 players
And the DM won't run without everybody there
Because it's a "StOrY DrIvEn GaMe" so everybody needs to be present every session
That's not great at all
I'm just sick and tired
Leave that table fo sho. Doesn't matter why the player leaves. Good or bad reason. That's not your problem
I love monk in this game
Im starting to have no sympathy for anxiety
its just funny in concept
People come to my games to get away from the anxiety and pressure of life
I have never had someone cancel on me because of that
I usually get weeks notice from folks If they are going to miss a game
You can be frustrated but don't blame people for having a medical condition
Like I know I'm down 2 players on June 18
Now that's damn good communication
It's the only excuse I see
Yeah it's intense, I have 7 groups of locked in dedicated players
Are we really acting like anxiety is a medical condition
Anxiety isn't an excuse, it can be debilitating
Being nervous is a medical condition
It is a medical condition
It sure can be
It actually is so let's not make light of it please.
Pink chill 
Yeah, this is why I think this analogy, although a bit blunt, actually makes sense. #dnd-discussion message
Like if you had a friend who wanted to join everyone in a hobby, but that hobby is really difficult for them to engage with because of their condition, you can both sympathize with that but also try to ground everyone in reality: this hobby, the way we're doing it, just isn't for you.
but I think that also leaves room for the conversation about how some hobbies are more accessible to others, and ways we (as community members, designers, players/DMs, etc.) can make it more accessible if we can.
Edit: I think this framing is also helpful because it's not saying that the person with a condition is a bad person for wanting to participate. It just means the whole situation is a challenge - and that's the problem we are trying to engage with.
Nobody ping me
My buddy has ADD, also a condition, also frustrating 
But he knows it and it's a thing we do make light of at the table, so it's all good (mostly)
I won't ping pink per their request but again everyone has the right to have a hard stance about playing with or letting Flaky players into the game. It sucks when it's a good reason to be flaky and it's annoying and/or disrespectful when it's a bad reason. As long as we're not singling out anyone specifically it's ok to hard stance on flaky players.
As a dm with ADD it gets rough sometimes lmao. If my players don't remember something obscure and no one wrote it down, it might as well have not happened
It sounds like Pink you think that this is a transactional. That they arent people with lives issues or problems. This isnt a sport or some kind of job, its a social collaborative game where yo uwork together to creative with each other there is a base companionship that must be established in order to play properly. (You need to get along and play together or its very uncomfy at the table) If a player is that anxious? Its ok to leave its ok to say 'hey x player isnt able to play, i do ima leave'
But its even easier to ask 'hey x player, you good?'
Finding a good group you can rely on is difficult that's for sure
It's valid to vent about missing a month's worth of games for any reason
We have a 'I'm not gonna be there' channel in Discord and somehow we always forget when someone is away 😂
Valid to vent. Not good to villainize what can be legitimate medical reasons and/or paint everyone with anxiety with one brush and forever veto them.
Villainize?
Exactly why I said widen the scope. ALL flaky players.
I'm expressing frustration over it, not attributing moral failure to them over it
I left and came back to people claiming I'm treating it as transactional and not caring about the person and that I'm villainizing them
I would like to point out that I validated your frustration while trying to offer a better alternative than specifying a single group of people. Wider scope will be better anyway. Cause there is lots of types of reasons out there for being flaky. Not just a single medical condition.
You're right I shouldn't single out anxious people
Villanizing the condition of anxiety and everyone in future experiences with it. Not that one person in particular.
No one is saying you cant vent frustration. Just trying to give advise to not go so hard against a condition that people legitimately suffer from.
People also did not at you but are discussing the situation. We can all learn from different interactions.
Alright well I'm going, and I would appreciate people not maligning me as being transactional and uncompassionate while I'm gone just because I'm frustrated over missing a month of D&D due to flaky players.
Valid. It's very frustrating to have folks fail to communicate and fall through last minute.
As just an unimportant fyi since I do think this community is one of kindness I think. I like talking dnd with you, pink. Your takes and opinions often make alot of sense to me and you're positive about 5e and 5.5e which makes me, as a new player playing 5.5e, more comfortable to ask you questions. Hope to continue talking to you in the future! 🙏
I think people with legitimate issues that cause people to miss sessions can also be people who are inconsiderate. (its not the issues that are making them incosiderate, it's the choices they make) Whether that's social obligations (children and family), medical issues, etc.
I once tried to run a game for a person who was very interested in playing dnd, but was dealing with barriers that made it difficult for her to socialize. I set everything up, found players, cleared out my day. And less than 45 minutes before show time, she told me that she would not be to attend.
That's okay, we can work through this. We talked through things, came up with a plan that would ease her issues and she felt more comfortable.
I prepped everything, set stuff up, and cleared out another Saturday for it. She bailed again, 20-30 minutes before session.
This repeated two more times before I stoped offering.
If she had simply communicated a bit better and told me further out, I dont think I would be as hurt.
It's not her fault that she had these issues, but I do think she can still be responsible for her decisions.
if someone cant make it to my games anymore regardless of the reasoning its usually no big deal and i get a new player in to fill their seat
Canceling sessions over and over is not the way
I didn't cancel those sessions, but i was setting these up specifically for her to experience them
yes, but that other person had a months worth of canceled games
OH, yes. I agree.
I also will run a session as long as we're not missing more than one person.
And if a player in my campaign is continiously missing, I would talk to them
For me ~4-5 is the sweet spot, I'll play with 3 or 6, but I think 5 is ideal
If I have at least 3 players I run my games
Alright ive started doing interviews for my games and yeah I shouldve been doing these all along
I'll run for 2 if my players want but we all haven agree we'd rather run with 3 so if we only have 2 we'll postpone
Managed to catch something on what wouldve been a trouble player for my table
I don't bend over backwards to come up with reasoning for players' characters to disappear or reappear, you're just there and then not there the next session or vice versa.
It's part of why I stopped running super narrative driven games
Yeah, it is the way
I have a list of questions I ask. Once always is:
"If you HAD to play an evil character in a campaign, what would be their motivation? How would they be evil"
I mean im a veteran with PTSD. I get anxious over alot of stuff sometimes its choking. Causes me to basically shut down. I dont mind people playing but people often feel uncomfortable taking control of others characters. So they are present but not active.
With internet randos, its a must.
Even going so far as to run a quick and dirty 3-room dungeon 30 min 1-shot isn't a terrible idea. You can learn alot from a player just by playing with them (works both ways, they can see your DM style in action, and see if it suits them)
I got to yapping and they yapped, then near the end of the yapping was something transphobic casually and that was a "ding ding ding, we have a not coming to my table"
So My anxiety IS very real and yea it makes me skip games sometimes but it doesnt mean that I want that to occur. If anything people with alot of anxiety? Its a vicious cycle. Because you get anxious about skipping, anxious about disapointing people. Then anxious about even starting the games again based on peoples perception of people. So its a really complicated issue that is often times out of hands of the people who have anxiety
I once applied for a game in this server and the DM added me the campaign INSTANTLY without asking any questions and it was an instant
for me
My throats sore and i got two more verbal interviews tonight
Gonna be straight forward with them lol
interviews are a must! i interviewed the people from here even just over text and was able to tell if they fit my table or not
What are red flags for you all when joining a table of randos? (either as a DM or as a player)
i wouldnt say its a red flag persay, but i am more drawn to applications that arent just “hi im interested”
Asking questions that contain traps, traps that will out undesirable or unsuitable players, might seem a bit Machiavellian to some, but I find its necessary. Classic interview questions in that vein like "why did you leave your last job?"
A lot of banned player options
Y'all people with a amulet of proof against detection and scrying can't be targeted by hunters mark.
anything grimdark, anything with a lot of homebrew
yeahhh, homebrew is a red flag for me
Any indication that the DM thinks spellcasters are overpowered
Lots of homebrew and lots of house rules
This true??? Interesting if so
You also can't cast Guidance on them
I can't think of any Stat blocks off the top of my head with HM but I'm sure there is some
grimdark campaigns, unless they're done well (they usually aren't from experience), tend to just turn into edgy excuses for DMs to punish players with needlessly gruelling homebrew mechanics
While wearing this amulet, you can’t be targeted by Divination spells
Unless they allow you too
Oh that's straight forward
While wearing this amulet, you can’t be targeted by Divination spells or perceived through magical scrying sensors unless you allow it.
Nice
oh yes, i should read the entire item
So guidance still works because they can give consent
yeahhh, i dont even think grimdark campaigns are that bad, but they can attract sketchy people
i agree, but i rarely see them done right - especially not in random groups
Which is of course not as strong as the broom of flying or spring boots but it is very strong because it makes you immune to a whole school of magic
When a player actively refuses to go read the rules, and wants to learn it as they go.
I applied for one and in the interview the DM was making super questionable jokes that made me feel uncomfortable
a looot of people just want to use LLMs these days
LLMs? What's that?
chatgpt
Oh also can't be targeted by mind spike
Oh large language models
someone asking about Homebrew character options before hearing the campaign pitch is a HUGE red flag imo
Yeah that
"DM, ChatGPT says you should allow it"
smited!
Lmao that's why in my campaigns I don't allow AI for anything, art, backstories, even rules
Steel Chair to the dome
llms are quite possibly the worst way to learn d&d rules
AI isn't good for learning things in general and definitely not good for game information.
llms are quite possibly the worst way to learn
ftfy
I naturally said no AI at my table in my most recent session 0. From chathpt to ai tokens. I openly admitted it might be a bit much banning tokens but it'd a hard stance I have unfortunately. No AI at my table what so ever I don't even want to read backstoried written by AI. My players agree tho so we're good
The acronyms are killin’ me
There was one person here who was asking so many easy questions about D&D, when asked why they were asking so much they said it was because they asked chatgpt first
DM, chatgpt says I need to make a fortitude or will save
No, no, it's not too far for the tokens.
Picrew is free.
Idk what that is but I'm guessing I should
I use HeroForge for my tokens
Hell, I commission art for my players because I love them 
DnD 4e fixes this.
Absolutely. Tells me that they want to play a mechanical concept, not a character
i feel so bad, but i judge people who look at ai generated images and think it looks really good
i see a lot of people here asking for help with ai-generated campaign premises, session plans or homebrew stuff. it always confuses me that they'd ask for a human input to improve something that a llm spat out
Be careful doing that because there's a lot of fake DMs who scam players with this
Quite possibly the worst use of ai I've ever seen. 😭 😭
I'm a bit too lenient I think by preferring they don't use AI for tokens.
SO, I asked this earlier to absolutely no response a few hours ago
What do we think about sea druid?
(I'm considering one)
Picrew are character creators with swappable hairs, faces, etc. Think like paper doll apps.
One thing that's great is that if your whole party uses the same one, all characters have the same "style", while also feeling unique. ✌️
Lmao I don't ask them to pay, I surprise them with it
Sea druids are great! What would you like to know about them?
I steal my art the old fashioned way off of Pinterest and google images
Not bad, they’re ok. Middle of the road for me.
pinterest is getting so bad these days. Artstation is nice
pinterest is a wonder if you can sift through the AI
Do we think gishing is a good option? 🤔
Careful. Pinterest is riddled with AI Generated slop nowadays.
I mean I allow ai token art in my games but only if you play a construct race.
I’ve trained my Pinterest algorithm pretty well and don’t get too much of it these days
Yea I straight hard banned it. I did apologize to them saying it might close-minded of me as tbh I'm not well versed on AI in general. But I just don't like the idea of it
Honestly? Google images is almost as polluted. It really, really sucks.
Still more than I’d like
Thorn Whip someone into my
MEGA GAY WHIRLPOOL
Yeah I keep forgetting piccrew exists
Not the best I’d say. You gotta be right up close to enemies which can be scary
I don't care where my players get token art as long as they don't lie to me about it. But I don't usually run games online so.
But otherwise the spells you get are okay
Even tho my PNG avatar is from piccrew lol
Picrew and the other one... I think it was Neko?
Simply cosplay as your character and take a selfie. Also dress up to every session. 👀
Nah, I'd win
10 foot emination that can push people away into my Area Control spells :3
I DLd a bunch of tokens from my czepeku subscription which I assume isn't AI since it's so widely recommended to people. Pls tell me they aren't AI ill cry if they are

Me when my chunky self shows up to a session in a pink frilly Wizard outfit.
#character-discussion or #optimization might be better channels.
I don't if there's a lot there for gishes, but I enjoyed mine
they are not
They're-... I don't know
Czepeku is human made.
Phew thank goodness
My friend, I'm sorry, but asking me what I'd like to know then directing me to another channel right away is bonkers 😭
And slaying. Queen.
I couldn't cosplay.
You can stay here, i just think you might get more responses there. :]
I mean, I suppose, but I just want a general opinion on Sea Druid, people seem 50/50, it looks pretty damn good to me all things considered
I'm too self-conscious.
There's this page/composer on Spotify I've been getting D&D music from and I'm assuming it's not made using AI since a lot of it is from before 2022 and generative AI wasn't very good before 2022 but I don't know for sure
I only mentioned it because you said you didnt get responses earlier.
I just use video game music.
I hate using video game music for my games
Castlevania is a blessing for Curse of Strahd.
I don't mind it in games where I'm a player
But I don't like using video game music for games I'm DMing
I use Tabletop Music
I like using Dos2/BG3 music for my games but those are indeed the games that brought me here in the first place so 
Tabletopmusic is also good.
But Bardify has been used too
But the search function is bonkers for me.
I use a lot of Adrian von Ziegler
I think the only thing I dislike about Sea druid is that their main gimmick is 100% save or suck
Tho for my horror game I was gonna use the Original Resident Evil 2 Safe Room theme for the landing page
I basically exclusively use music from the Civilization soundtrack. I don't play those games, and neither do my players, but they have a wide variety of songs to use in their soundtracks
For stuff like The Astral Sea, I might grab music from EDM and Eurorack musicians. For most regular locations, a more regular song will do.
Horror movie music has been a go to for me as well.
The requiem for a dream song is really great too
It has a declaration of war soundtrack I'd like to drop in a tabletop game once.
I'm that kind of music user
Bardify is really good but a lot of their stuff is a little too epic and grandiose
I find that to be a problem with a lot of music for D&D
Can be overpowering
This is why I force our bard to provide live music
yes, this is an issue I have with a lot dnd music
I was using the usual go to music for Desert games in my old Wednesday game lol
When I look for "Fantasy boss fight" music I don't always need an entire 200 person orchestra and choir. I can do with a String Quartet or something
Sitar melodies and stuff
The thing I always look for microtones in my D&D music tbh
just feels right for the time period I'm emulating
feel annoyed was meant to be facing the final boss of the thursday tonight but player no showed so it delayed till next week
I'm learning my taste in music is uhh not the best I'm guessing lol 
Tho Draconia I don't use any music that fits the civilization.
https://www.youtube.com/@WitchBoltMusic
I like witchbolt a lot. I was a little unsure when I saw "synth" at first, but its honestly verry chill for dnd
do you like the music you hear?
I should use the Kugane music from ff14 for the main capital
Yuh. Like the grandiose and epic music, video game music and the 200 orchestra music for boss fight(dark souls music example)
League of legends has some good instrumental tracks
Seems like a fine enough taste in music to me
Tho if I ever have my Monday PCs fighting the high level npcs of the countries armed forces, I'll break out the western religious choir music.
Or crap. Music from the Heavensward OST from ff14
I used the Sif boss fight song for a tragic Warforged who went mad cause his partner was killed.
On my bucket list is running the FF6 final boss as a bbeg fight just like the game and hoping my players don't realize it.
He was strong too! 20 AC vs a lvl 4 party
Dark Souls music is great, some of it is just subtle enough
Of mostly new players
I too have very real anxiety issues. I do my best to overcome it for the sake of the game. Social anxiety rears its ugly head at times. Knowing this full well I am playing my first game in decades on Saturday. I'm just going to go and deal as best I can and hope people understand if I'm a bit awkward.
Bloodborne music in particular is pretty great as it never gets too big and loud and epic
A 4 phase fight in dnd for no reason other than my own whimsy.
Ohhhh I'm saving BB music for some very important fights
I can't wait!!
What’s a microtone? 👀
A player in said hypothetical game whose played FF6 or FF14 and hears me say "Legendary Action: Heartless Angel"

Queue nuking two PCs
Tonight is the only night this month I'm not running a game
I was gonna say I hope you get to rest tonight but being a father I imagine your work for tonight is not over just cause you're not running a game
Tonight will be the night that I will fall for yaouuuu
I'm proud of you for doing this!! This hobby is full of awkward people playing together. I think they'll be happy to have you at their table
Everyones music taste is valid..
Unless they like AI music :p then they might need a little bit of help
Oh i might need to look into this. One of my players is a HUGE final fantasy fan. maybe I could steal inspiration from the games
Ooh yay! Microtones are notes between the western 12-tones (Bb, B, C, Db, D, Eb, E etc.). Sounds can onviously be at any pitch, not just those specific pitches, so Microtones is the term used for something like a B Half-Sharp (a note between B and C). They're usually found throughout African, Asian, and pre-Classical European music, where the entire field of music theory is different (see: Indian Ragas vs European Scales). Certain instruments, like Turkey's Baglama or Japan's Koto are "specially" designed to play these notes.
Music theory is a relatively modern notion, I don't think D&D music would sound like European Classical music, I think it'd sound music from 1400s Tajikistan and Chad.
There's your Gwyn rant for the day, nobody bring up Eberron!
So about Eberron
Yeah, about Eberron
I'm running two Eberron tables. One with handwritten adventures and One is Oracle of War. Gwyn please go into a long discussion about literally anything
where's that gif of the emoji disintegrating
The Emoji of Doom and Despair
lord of blades is a hear me out candidate
valid, he's just so dreamy...
I can't wait to run that statblock for the first time ever. I'm too excited
I can imagine him sounding like Gabriel from Ultrakill
maybe a Quori is dreamier
Except Gabriel Ultrakill is a CLANKER hater.
I teased him to my first group and they are super excited to learn more about him specifically. Next session they hear about Dyrrn tho cause they're in Khyber.
He hates everything, don't he?
I dunno
He tolerates hatsune miku
ooh what're they doing in Khyber?
I know the Lord of Blades hates all Organics though (As he should)
well hold on, he has no beef with animals
Beep Boop, Meatbag
They're on a mission for the Trust to rescue an operative who snuck into Darguun kobold ranks and got trapped in khyber under the seawall mountain. No idea if in Lore the trust woild ever work with outsiders but I need a reason for them to go down there lol
this is anti-warforged propaganda propagated by the elves
Well if the Warforged hate me then I hate them
they're mad he stoll their double sided scims
... No, its literally the Lord of Blades Ideology
He hates us
He's my favorite evil clanker besides Megatron
supnerds
Nah propaganda fr
Yeah, cuz Humans are the people with the Mark of Creation. That said, he doesn't dislike organic things for being organic. He's basically an anarchist and warforged supremacist
Hasty generalization
I have a big old homebrew campaign and I 'll be asking random people for ideas
Justice for the Lord of Blades, King of Blessings!
Being a Supremesist typically means you dislike things that aren't like you.
I wanna run him so bad 😭
(At least looking at it from a racial standpoint, which is iffy conversation topic material)
I ran his block as a high level izzet boss once he was dope
Yeah, he dislikes Humans and Elves and Orcs and stuff, he dislikes them for the role they played in the Last War (basically how nobody fought for Warforged until it was over). He doesn't dislike them because they're made of meat
What's the lowest level yall would throw him at for a party size of 4? I want him to be as difficult as possible
3
they can handle him at level 1 yeah
Not all encounters are mean to be won.
Oh OK. For a fight that's meant to be won then.
nah i'd prolly do like 13-15 if you want it to be early enough that its scary but still winnable
Hating people for their actions and not what they are? Unheard of
True
He's brutal if you have melees, the thorns damage alone is pretty rough (if you have him grapple shenanigans)
Its funny because in lore he is perceive as "a power-mad tyrannical warlord, self-proclaimed prophet, and racist psychopathic abomination bent on founding a warforged empire and challenging other nations for control of all of Khorvaire. "
Only 1 melee ATM. Rogue can do both if he wants I think
oh yeah, in lore he's like an uber terrorist
And considered an uber racist...
the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is who reports the news
My point is that he does not dislike people for being organic, as he has no issues with stuff like animals
Warforged Nightly tells me he is actually the best social advocate
He dislikes people for what they've done, but he doesn't harbor some hatred for living things. If he did, he mightve turned to necromancy before artifice
"and advocated for their supremacy over other races and Khorvaire, calling for a world where his followers rebelled against, conquered, destroyed, and enslaved the puny, so-called "weak-fleshed" or "flesh-bound" races."
Have one of the Lord of Blades’ underlings cast Shield of Faith on him, then make his armor +3
Adamantine Plate +3 is diabolical (give it to him)
I think The Lord of Blades indeed does not like organics
if your party doesn't have disintegrate, having him wall of force off the casters after legendary blade dance is entirely valid to slaughter them
Lvl 13 is what. Lvl 6 spells only?
But they better have counterspell to stop it
7, no?
No clue!
It's level divided by 2 rounded up.
My highest party is lvl 5.
I will keep that in mind!
Trying to paint this guy as a freedom fighter or anything good aligned would be crazy
Don't think Tokii is but someone did in there I'm pretty sure
He's not though, he's literally an evil, manic individual
That's literally, verbatim, how he is
Unabashedly evil
this still isn't Animals and Plants so it definitely isn't Organic Life. I'm not sure how my point is being missed
That moment when the guy called the Lord of Blades is actually evil
There's a slice of life to be had in here where he is just a world renowned sashimi chef
Your point ISN'T being missed.
Its LITERALLY stated that he hates organic fleshbound creatures!
I'm sure its NOT just people.
I also hate plants and animals
But that's because I hate food and all food is either plants or animals
or mushroom
stance on protists?
Mushrooms win again 😎
Best thing ever to exist
yeah u do kinda have to hand it to them
They're just nothing they choose NOT to identify
Which is honestly?
The coolest evolutionary choice ever
I am NOT an animal
I am NOT a plant
I am NOT a fungus
I am..
Protist
putting the protist in protagonist
Imagine Dragons
Ok, what do the dragons do? Are they chromatic or metallic?
Done, next question
Imagine me.
No, a third.. more sinister option
gemstone actually L + Ratio + Gravity magic
Crystal
Gem dragons then.
Yerrr
They're not very sinister. Idk why you'd say that.
because saying
"No, but a third more sinister option" is funny
They’re more than sinister, they’re sassy
I bet they taste like gatorade flavors if you cook and eat them
I don't think I've seen you in ages
Was also joking. Gem dragons aren't that sinister. Not usually at least. 😅
I’ve always been here.
Have you?
Are you real?
…Done
Sam Reich! He's been here the whole time!
Am I handsome?
Gem dragons are like the Tieflings of dragons
Aye, sire
So I dmed my first campaign but I tought the hunger system was too complicated so we played without it.
It's almost time for me to run another campaign and I really want to incorporate this system.
Can anyone explain it to me ?
Hunger system?
Most DMs don't run hunger rules afaik
You just gotta eat once a day
Can't confirm of course
DnD doesn't really have a hunger system? I think you just have to have one meal?
yea like buying some food at town before going in an adventure
idk I saw it online
That's probably not an official mechanic.
Many people see hunger as an afterthought when playing DnD.
Managing hunger in D&D 5e defaults to a simple rule: characters need 1 pound of food per day... (Gemini)
Might be slightly mistaken if you read it online and didn't read it in the rules. But regardless I don't use it either
Gemini 
Don't trust AI results
hey nobody judges me for using gemini 😢
Just 1 ration a day if your DM (or if you as a DM) care
okay I guess
If you’re desperate for a hunger mechanic tell them they either need to eat at a tavern or something or buy supplies
Like, a week of food is 20 gold or something, and if they don’t they might get an exhaustion level
Don’t worry too hard about realism or anything
Valid. My bad fr fr
We don't trust AI on this server. I don't recommend seeking AI for advice.
Then nobody has to think about it
You're better off actually reading the free rules: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules
omg I hate these kind of ppl
no offense btw
god forbid you have to read something in a game with rulebooks
Why? It's the actual game rules though - e.g. what's actually used.
Have you
Not checked the rules?
Not some AI-generated hallucination
I am just asking a quick question I don't want to read a 400 pages document
Discord is not the first or second place to be looking for rules advice
But thanks anyway guys
Quick question dw
...Did you read the rules though?
Also, you don’t need to read the whole book
I mean at least they are actually asking on the official D&D Discord server...
Yes.
OK you can't hate people who say read the rules. It takes like 90 minutes at best to read the How to Play section of the free rules and there are more reliable sources than AI.
Eat one ration a day, or don't. Ask grok ig
Don't ask Grog.
I don't really care how they're called. I avoid them like they're a power hungry lich.
The rules are still just out there
You can run a great campaign without any rules at all if you really wanted, but if you’re asking for an official rule then check the official rulebook
Gronko is a goblin I just thought of and will be adding to my next session. He will give bad advice
Lol great idea
He should give real world advice for fantasy problems, the inverse of AI
So here's the rules on malnutrition and dehydration: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/rules-glossary#MalnutritionHazard
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/rules-glossary#DehydrationHazard
Still probably better advice than Kronk or whatever the hell he's called.
Remember Grok used to be able to generate weird content
Don’t disrespect Kronk
my goat
Ai is not going to be reliable for dnd rules
I don't use Twitter thankfully but I heard about that and immediately want to change topics
Kronk is the third best Disney character he don’t deserve that
Pull the lever!
You're right. I should have not disrespected the most lovable himbo it has come out of Disney.
Wrong leveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer!!! Takes 8d10 bludgeoning damage.
Every dnd game needs a good Kronk character for the BBEG to play off of
best i can do is evil Kronk
Evil Himbo is a great archetype
Ok, now I want to make dumb-ass himbo for the party to interact with. However... the party's fighter already fills that role very well so should I bother?
of course ... everyone can use a foil
My pc is a Himbo. I love him
I wasn't even thinking about making a himbo villain. Just a lovable himbo NPC.
the fighter ought to be the only one they respect
He's a Warcleric Goliath and constantly thinks he can take any attack from any source cause his God protects him. He's gone down 5+ times and died once
I mean personally I wouldn't want to play a dumb character so recklessly. Seems like a good way to lose a character.
I had a Tiefling War Cleric that was very similar
Except he was only ever downed twice
I've spoken of him aplenty
Karkas, my beloved
More context. He doesn't try to take damage for no reason. He puts himself between danger and his allies.
I've only played a dumb character once. Barbarian. Don't think he went down.
Make him the fighters rival
Dare I say enemies to lovers?
This man wasn't dumb, but he was the only frontliner in his group
It was a three-shot or something though.
He had resistance to 7 or 8 damage types :3
He already has a crush on two of his childhood friends and doesn't even realize it.
To hell with it, add a third
A quadrouple?
Just call it poly if it’s more than three
No, I will call it quadrouple.
Yaasss we love dumb himbos!
Damn
quartet!
They could be quad gods.
Thick thighs save lives.
I prefer my queers w angst
Everyone needs a Kronk
Won't be featured in Ravenloft: Horrors Within, I think we also got confirmation it won't be in Arcana Unleashed, so itll either be a Srason of Champions (so Fall-Winter '26) or itll be a 2027 release
the specter one? how so?
CR 1/2 at that level is pretty meh. Also needs ya to kill hoomanoids
King @warm cove
the day before session 11, a bit nervous
Gotta pull off a surprise
Ah
So, I'm in a SW5e game. And it got me looking into things from 5e. What is up with the magic item economy in 2014 5e? Like, I get it, the designers for what ever reason didn't want to put price tags on magic boots, rings, cloaks and codpieces. But why aren't scrolls given actual pricing for players to be able to buy one shot use scrolls or even potions?
||Using their dead party members as revived vampire spawns to use against them||
Because 5e is a humiliation ritual for DMs
magic items are given prices based off rarity
And what's your concern
The reveal
Spell Scrolls and Healing Potions are given prices based off said prices
I can believe that. I've been making a 6th level character for SW5e and going into 'enhanced items' which is their magic items stuff there's absolutely nothing there, it's all "make your GM have to do m ore work."
Second thoughts about how you're going to stage manage that?
healing potions sure... what about a potion of Grease? or Entangle?
I have just stolen and amended people’s homebrew lists of item prices and arbitrarily decide how much stuff costs based on how I personally feel about it
Theres a table in the DMG. Half the number there, you get your price
So, what is the rarity of an oil of grease?
Depending on where they go ||different party members will be revealed||, all hell breaks havoc in this town they're in ||There's a dragon, werewolves, vampire spawn, etc.||
what rarity is it?
....that....that's the question I asked...
Im just gonna assume you mean Oil of Slipperiness
I just make my players buy me olive oil if they want that oil
theres no item in official content called oil of grease
Grease is the spell I'm thinking of...
Assuming Oil of Slipperiness, which is Uncommon, and also is just duplicating the Grease spell, 200 gp
So...sorry if I'm getting terminology wrong. I've played less than 20 games of 2014 5e, none of the 2024 redux. It used to be, potions could hold spells up to X level, I want to say 3rd. If it was a buff or debuff on a person it was a 'potion' if it was a buff or debuff for an object it was an 'oil' So if you wanted to put the spell grease into a potion, it would be an oil of grease
doesnt the DMG have guidelines for doing so?
Thank you
Cantrips and 1st level spoells are considered Uncommon.
Hi....I've not played 5e 2014 in over 6 years, and even then didn't get too in depth in the game. So I'm rather ignorant about these things. It's why I'm discussing it here on this discord. 🙂
Potions can hold spells?
Im looking at the 2014 DMG
awesome. so does the DMG have guidelines for doing so?
It has the table
Won’t let me post, so I need approvals
...
cool!
We are not escaping the cannot read allegations
#find-a-game gives instructions
It ain't allegations. It's caught red handed with a whole stockpile of evidence.
in older formats of D&D potions were based off the spells a spellcaster would cast. A potion of cure light wounds was just cure light wounds in a bottle. A potion of keen edge was an oil of keen edge using the keen edge spell.
Said table btw, Chapter 9: Dungeon Master's Workshop of the 2014 DMG https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/dmg-2014/dungeon-masters-workshop#MagicItemPowerbyRarity
Got 1 more player interview left. my voice is exhausted
Has this passage
Maximum Spell Level. This column of the table indicates the highest-level spell effect the item should confer, in the form of a once-per-day or similarly limited property. For example, a common item might confer the benefit of a 1st-level spell once per day (or just once, if it’s consumable). A rare, very rare, or legendary item might allow its possessor to cast a lower-level spell more frequently.
So, I think it’s difficult to create a price tag for every magic item. There are tools other DMs have created, but I think each magic item would have a unique price.
but there's no actual.. a cantrip/orison/whatever druids call their stuff for a 0 level spell potion is insert gp value a 1st level spell is insert gp value a 2nd level spell is insert gp value, so on and so forth?
Again. You look at the prioce table by rarity
but there's no actual.. a cantrip/orison/whatever druids call their stuff for a 0 level spell potion is insert gp value a 1st level spell is insert gp value a 2nd level spell is insert gp value, so on and so forth??
why are you posting the same thing twice
because it wasn't answered. 🙂
- I did answer it
- Thats considered spam
this table has the price range
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/dmg-2014/treasure#Rarity
you keep linking me to a book to buy
Unfortunately, the 2014 Basic/Free Rules do not include the table
yes or no please. Is there a chart somewhere in 5e dnd that states what each spell level 0-9's "Rarity" is for using it for making scrolls and/or potions?
I literally said yes multiple times
Yes in the 2014 dmg where he's been saying
If you dont have the DMG to look at the specific table, thats of no fault of my own
Ive been giving you the source with what i have
50% of problems in dnd are based on poor communication skills, 45% are reading comprehension, 5% is a nat 1. Scheduling is 100% in its own right
There is nothing more anyone can do for you
If you want a better table, i would probably look at the 2024 Basic Rules instead, it at least has that included
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/magic-items#MagicItemRarity
How much do you think a dose of keoghtom’s ought to cost in your eyes
DnD players: "I got 5% luck, 10% social skill, 15% concentrated power of illiteracy"
its on page 135 of the dungeon masters guide if you have access to that book.
Honestly, depends on how much doses are left
Well I mean the cost per dose
yeah, id do it based off that, cost vs demand typa thing
I’m thinking of pegging it at the cost of lesser restoration scroll + greater healing potion I’m reworking some of my prices
the item itself is Uncommon, but each one is worth a Cure Wounds in healing
Additionally, page 133 of Xanathar's guide to everything has the cost and time required to craft spell scrolls.
Is lesser restoration even a good spell?
BA to remove certain conditions, including paralyzed
Only if it can end hold person 😉
Yeah
Is it able to remove paralyzed caused by hold person?
yes
Lmao
okay i was just curious
It ends the condition, period
Yeah Lesser Resto is a great spell
hello ^^ im new to dnd and im gonna play my first game in a couple days! any tips?
Wear sunscreen!
remember what your character does
have fun
work with the party
hydrate and eat
Moisturizer always
lol thanks!
Read the basic rules. Specifically the how to play first, you don't need to read the whole thing.
Then when you decide on a class to play, read on how to play them.
Came up with an easy way to make surnames for tiefling characters
Theological demon/demon appearing in the Goetia, and add -i.
Like, you'd get Belethi, from Belethi, or Paimoni, from Paimon, etc. (Beleth and Paimon are both Goetic demons)
Sounds like Pokémon (not a bad thing)
Paimon... emergency food
Then you can go from there. As long as you're willing to put in effort to learn and remember the rules you have to, most DMs will love having you.
was about to say that lol!
And well. Don't be a problem at the table.
I have a friend I can pester with the book. I just wanted some concrete information before I went pestering them over whatsapp. SW5e has "techpowers" that are essentially reskinned spells, while adding new ones. Countermeasures makes you immune to the games version of magic missile. Smoke cloud is basically obscuring mist and oil slick is basically grease. I wanted something to bring back to my DM to go "hey, these are the 5e rules for making potions" Can we use these rules to make one shot gadgets turning 'smoke cloud' into a smoke grenade, or 'oil slick' into something I can have my speeder bike drop behind us to help with escapes.
paimon is not emergency rations
thank u im rlly nervous the DM wont like me because im new T-T
she very much is
They’ll like you more if you bring snacks
If that's the case, you can find a better dm.
thanks!
If a DM doesn't want new people, they'll generally say so in their ads.
Those ones are fine since they let ya know up front.
But a DM that let's you in then suddenly drops it on ya? Nah.
Oh if it's one of the demons that has a seal, you could also use it as the symbol of the character's family
they didnt mention anything about it so hopefulyl they dont mind ^^
I’m always beginner friendly. We got to start from somewhere
Most likely.
This wont stop me because i cant read!
Beginners are fun to run for as long as they're here to play.
They tend to be a bit more creative ime.
As a DM, i'm happy to have a new player! They're usually enthusastic
and i can lure them them into traps
It’s 90% rp usually haha technical stuff is jus experience
im super exited ive always just watched vids of ppl playing ^^
never rlly got into the technical stuff though lol
also, when in doubt, just open the door. Dont worry about danger. Touch the handle. Open the door.
On my to do list this year is to write my own tutorial adventure for fun.
If the DM ever asks something like, "So you touch the treasure chest?" Just say "yes!" The DM is trying to make sure YOU get the loot first
oouuuu thank u!
It's interesting trying to put an adventure together with just what's allowed by the OGL.
:]
“Well first I ask the chest for enthusiastic consent”
Just in case it’s a mimic chest yknow
mimics arent real, Just touch the chest
You’re so evil !!
No, I'm BubbleMoth
may I ask whats a mimic chest? I think I have an idea but I just wanna make sure ^-^
Mimics are creatures that well. Mimic.
They hunt people so they commonly appear as chests to eat adventurers.
right thats what I though thanks ^^
There are creatures that hide as common items and when adventurers touch them, they attack
What would the be the most evil thing to make a mimic?
Emphasis on seen 😉
Health potion
The healing potion inside of a bottle?
Mimics only ever appear as chests so feel free to let your guard down and be none the wiser when you don't see a chest nearby.
Lol, you beat me
Just millions of nanoscopic mimic healing droplets
Touch the gold coin on the table
Mimic helmet might be peak
Another mimic has breached containment, get the flamethrower.
One of my favorite dnd moments as a player was when i got stuck to a mimic, butttt I was able to cast "inflict wounds" >:] (the good 2014 version, not the horrible 2024 version)
God bless 2014 inflict wounds
probably the worst nerf of 2024
Nah moon Druid. I don’t want spells. I want an extra hp bar! And any beast!
that was a big change
out of curiosity
what summon has the most hit points
kinda wana know the max hitpoints a summon could have if paired with shepherd druid
close, im latino too
but if its for getting into a campaign who speak Portuguese, sorry i dont.
try to dont doxe yourself please.
Let it "open" just contients
I wish I was allowed to dox myself
Just lets try to not, saying continents is already enough for coordinate.
Sorry we didn’t tough about that
I’m a grown man aged <redacted> and I wanna reveal personal information about myself!
Well what Summon spells do we have…Summon Aberration, Summon Beast, Summon Celestial, Summon Construct, Summon Dragon, Summon Draconic Spirit, Summon Elemental, Summon Fey, Summon Fiend, Summon Greater Fiend, Summon Jack-o'-Lantern, Summon Lesser Demons, Summon Leviathan Avatar, Summon Plant, Summon Sea Spirit, Summon Shadow, Summon Shadowspawn, Summon Undead and Summon Vehicle
No.
Yes
Its probs summon Leviathan
Since 7th level spell
You’re obviously a crab
Knock knock
Uh, who’s there?
Wow can’t believe you’d ask for personal information that’s crazy
Summon Vehicle?
UA spell
I summon a wicked scooter
I’d have to dig into the avernus module, can the hell engines be summoned?
They are Vehicles