dnd-discussion

[gusty charm]

What would you like to discuss?

[spice crane]

I want to discuss about all of your campaign experience.

[gusty charm]

Playing or DMing? Or both?

[spice crane]

Both

[still plover]

Kinda a broad topic there. What are you interested in particularly?

Also, have you checked out #tales-from-the-table? Lots of folk share their stories there.

[lavish flame]

I'm currently doing both in 2 games. I am running a sandbox campaign set in Wildemount. My party just played through the adventure Dragon of Icespire Peak which was a ton of fun, very solidly written starter set adventure. I am playing in a sandbox campaign set Eberron (specifically Khorvaire). We've been doing PC backstory stuff, dragonmark deals, and running away from government of late in that campaign.

Sadly, Eberron is on hiatus rn (should pick up in like 2 weeks tho)

[gusty charm]

Uhhh the only official campaign I’ve ever played all the way through (as a player) was Lost Mines of Phandelver, won’t spoil anything here but that was a good starter campaign. That was like 10 years ago now and I still remember it so clearly

[spice crane]

I’m mainly interested in your overall campaign experience like your strategy, key challenges.

[spice crane]

okay

[still plover]

"Watch your back, shoot straight, conserve ammo, and never, ever cut a deal with a dragon."

-# Wait, that's Shadowrun. Eh, still applies.

[spice crane]

Both campaigns sound really fun! Wildemount with Dragon of Icespire Peak was a great starter adventure, and your Eberron game in Khorvaire sounds intense with dragonmark deals and being on the run. Hopefully the Eberron hiatus ends soon so you can continue the story. How manyare players in each campaign?

[lavish flame]

Jumping off this: I've finished DMing Curse of Strahd, Lost Mine of Phandelver, Dragon of Icespire Peak, and Baldur's Gate: Descent Into Avernus. I would not recommend Baldur's Gate: Descent Into Avernus to any play group tbh, truly dreadful experience from level 1-13. I've played through Tyranny of Dragons, Waterdeep: Dragon Heist, and Baldur's Gate Descent Into Avernus. I'm not sure I'd recommend any of those adventures tbh, I did not feel those adventures were strong.

[spice crane]

That’s cool, Lost Mine of Phandelver is such a classic starter campaign. It makes sense you still remember it after so many years those early D&D experiences really stick. What was your character like in that campaign?

[gusty charm]

What’s wrong with Descent Into Avernus?

[gusty charm]

Oh I was a teen so very edgy haha. I was lowkey a problem player but I got better

[olive storm]

Did you ever feel like Waterdeep: Dragon Heist lacked direction?

Like all the BBEGs are ||things your party can't actually fight.||

[celest hornet]

I seem to only main Curse of Strahd as a campaign having run it twice and currently 9 months in on my third run !

Apart of that I run mainly one shots for others and currently a DM for a second group running homebrew dungeon crawling.

[spice crane]

That’s pretty relatable honestly most people start out a bit “edgy” when they’re teens 😄

[olive storm]

Invite me pleeeeaaase I can't take it

I like edgy things.

[still plover]

(Ezekiel Marlowe? Now there's a name to conjure with, if you don't mind me saying.)

[olive storm]

When people talk about 8th grader syndrome, I genuinely think they're talking about me. I super love dark and edgy stuff.

[spice crane]

What helped you become a better player experience or a specific group/DM?

[coarse carbon]

Quick server direction questions! Is looking for players where I'd post about a oneshot, or is that just ongoing campaigns? The heading says "traditional" and I'm not sure if oneshots fall under that umbrella.

[gusty charm]

Partially time/age, partially research into playing, partially being DM on the other side of the screen

[lavish flame]

In Wildemount, we've got 5 people, a Sea Druid, Astral Monk, Eloquence Bard, Scribes Wizard, Eldritch Knight Fighter. I love those people and the stuff they do. They've recently been sending a bunch of mail, which I find simultaneously hilarious (because these Knights and Wizards are spending their free time... writing love letters?) and also very fulfilling. It signals to me, the DM, that these people believe in the world and have things they care about outside of adventuring.

In Eberron, we've got 4 ppl. I'm an Evoker Wizard alongside a Spores Druid, Hunter Ranger, and Berserker Barbarian. We have not been sending much mail at all, lmao.

[still plover]

For a game you're running? Sure.

[coarse carbon]

Perfect, thanks!

[obtuse aurora]

What are your fav characters?

[still plover]

Unsolicited addition: please give plenty of info in your post. Here are some suggestions: #dm-discussion message

[spice crane]

Alright! Age, experience and especially DMing would give you a whole different perspective on the game. How did DMing change the way you play as a player the most?

[obtuse aurora]

Lol same, but hey, dark and edgy can be really fun if you do it well.

[lavish flame]

It'd be easier to list whats right with BGDIA. I absolutely loathed the railroad that never allowed players time to breathe in either of the very interesting settings the story is strewn across. The book comes with an excellent writeup of Baldur's Gate, which they expect you'll use when running the stuff set in Baldur's Gate, but the content there is a railroad literally punishble by death.

[olive storm]

I still listen to Evanescence on occasion. Such a good band.

[celest hornet]

Same to you Mr Smith !

[olive storm]

My brother is the same way.

Pretty sure we're both Warlock mains in D&D because of those culty vibes.

[gusty charm]

I realized how annoying it is to be a DM haha (that’s a joke). Really I just understood more about how hard it is and how being a cooperative player makes the experience more enjoyable for everyone

[olive storm]

It's a shame there is no good way to play a Vampire in D&D.

[gusty charm]

Yikes

[obtuse aurora]

Honestly yeah, they nailed that dark vibe so well. Do you have a favorite song?

[celest hornet]

Never got a chance to play a player yet !

[olive storm]

Hmm.... I really like the entire Fallen album.

[lavish flame]

Yeah, WDH felt pretty aimless. Our DM was also pretty new so I never really knew what was New DM Growing Pains or a Dysfunctional Steup. I completely checked out of the game when we did a chase sequence wherein we murdered the quarry we were chasing, only for them to be replaced by another version of their statblock, who also catches the mcguffin we're after before we can. That one was the book.

[olive storm]

But if I had to pick I'd have to say Bring Me To Life.

[spice crane]

Yeah that’s a great observation! It’s kind of cool how the Wildemount party is leaning into downtime and personal connections. The mail stuff honestly sounds like a really strong sign that they’re invested in the world beyond combat.
And the Eberron group sounds like it’s way more action-focused right now.
Do you prefer when players engage more with downtime stuff like in Wildemount or when it’s more mission-focused like Eberron right now?

[obtuse aurora]

warlock mains always have that exact energy lol

[olive storm]

However Taking Over Me is a pretty good song for a stalker.

[still plover]

Just play your class and attribute your abilities to your vampire powers. Or there's Vampire, Undying, Urban Shadows, Dresden Files...

[celest hornet]

Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft has a class called Dhampir

[still plover]

Species. Or in that, race.

[spice crane]

That actually makes a lot of sense then you’ve mostly been seeing the game from the DM side so far. Playing as a player feels pretty different. Are you planning to join a game as a player anytime soon?

[olive storm]

"You don't remember me, but I remember you."

"I lie awake at night and try so hard not to think of you."

"But who can decide what they dream, and dream I do."

Such a moody song I love it.

[obtuse aurora]

good picks tbh

[lavish flame]

Ayyy! I've run it twice to completion (😳) and a handful of other times that just sorta fizzled out. Curse of Strahd is a good time.

[celest hornet]

Its a half vampire so any race would work and you have some abilities of a vampire !

[obtuse aurora]

The lyrics are so intense in the best way, it’s got that perfect haunting vibe.

[olive storm]

I know.

One of my biggest issues with D&D is that every thing with venom is immune to poison, undead are immune to necrotic, etc.

So when I play an undead warlock in Curse of Strahd, the flavor is on-point but everything resists all my class features.

I wish there was elemental adept but for necrotic.

Like esoteric adept or something...

[past blaze]

Occult Adept maybe

[olive storm]

Like one for radiant, psychic and necrotic.

[coarse carbon]

Appreciated nonetheless! Think I about covered it :]

[celest hornet]

I suppose if I were a player id focus on any hooks the DM would be hinting at and id try not to de rail and focus on more Roleplay to help out the Vibe. In my current campaign of CoS a have a DM as a player and hes great for RP and steering the decisions of the party on the right track !

[lavish flame]

throw Force on that list 🧠

[obtuse aurora]

It feels great narratively, but mechanically it can backfire hard especially in something like Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition where enemy types are predictable

[still plover]

(I remembered what I forgot: HammerTime)

[severe rampart]

lmao my halfling rogue rolled four natural ones on his stealth roll

[olive storm]

"What's your super power?"

"I can spell 'evanescence' without looking it up."

[still plover]

"Fool of a Took!"

[errant crag]

The ones I like roleplaying the most and the ones that die

[olive storm]

I rolled 5 in BG3... I had Advantage and I rolled Nat 1s twice in a row and then rolled a Nat 1 for a melee attack.

[lavish flame]

Real as hell. It like... sucks to be a thematic character in a campaign for that theme. A Devil themed character in a Devil game is usually gonna be throwing Fire at people who don't get hurt by Fire. Necromancy+Undead is the same thing.

[celest hornet]

The beauty of it is after completing vanilla you can go into more Lore driven CoS, add in more creatures of night as ambushes and flesh it out a little bit more each time !
Its a great one that keeps your party trapped in a big dangerous area

[olive storm]

GOD AMY LEE'S VOICE IS SO ICONIC!!!

[obtuse aurora]

I wanna see those characters ^_^

[spice crane]

It's a really great player mindset staying on hooks and supporting the table vibe goes a long way in making a campaign enjoyable for everyone. Also cool that you’ve got a DM as a player in your CoS game; having someone who naturally understands pacing and RP can really help keep things grounded without taking away agency from others.
Out of curiosity, in Curse of Strahd are you guys leaning more into horror/serious RP, or is it becoming more chaotic with the party decisions?

[celest hornet]

Could your warlock get a heavenly contract and deal radient instead ? Like he died and a celestial gave him life again ?

[olive storm]

But then you'd lose da flavor!

Real talk: What music do you guys play during your games?

I keep a lot of music on hand just for various situations.

[celest hornet]

He could be edgy cause he died and didnt want to be brought back and now he has radient power

[olive storm]

Fallen angel mf.

[celest hornet]

Dnd ambience on Spotify with the kenku discord bot

[gusty charm]

Those bardcore covers for tavern music

[olive storm]

Kenku FM is the best music bot IMO. So good.

[merry tulip]

Story time

One time in a short campaign I was playing as a druid and in order to repay a tavern keeper for breaking windows, our bard offered to play a night. I also offered and picked up an Dulcimer. Time came around and our bard I think got a 12 or something like that, mean while my druid got a NAT20, the people loved what I played that we got paid for it and also got to keep the dulcimer cause i impressed the person i was renting it from. Let's just say the bard didn't like that and got very salty

[still plover]

Warlocks are all about those arcane secrets. I could see it.

"You might ask why I teach you these techniques, knowing I myself am vulnerable to them," (they're not) "and the answer is simple. I want you to kill the Baron of Barovia. Strahd must die."

[lavish flame]

My soundtrack for Wildemount mostly consists of music from the Civilization game series, arranged in location-specific playlists. The Dwendalian Empire playlist is German, French, English, and Scottish. The Menagerie Coast playlist is Arabic, Spanish, Italian, and Mesoamerican.

[gusty charm]

Oooh I love Civ music, smart idea

[olive storm]

I've never played Civ. I never even thought about its music.

[celest hornet]

Yeah I got a little DnD discord and have gathered alot of DnD players and trying to get more GMs to play games with the others because of my 2 campaigns a week I dont have time. The DM in my game is also running irl sessions too.
It is great to have a vetern in a game that does the RP and I see it myself that it rubs off the other players and they join in too alot !
I lean into horror as much as I can and to be honest its being played very serious. The guys started off as hero's and now they are acting like survivors doing anything they can to live another day !

[lavish flame]

I dont play it either lmao, I just figured itd be a game with a huge variety of ethnic musical styles

[olive storm]

You're so good! You could even say you're a natural!

[celest hornet]

That was great !

[merry tulip]

I wish I said that now

[severe rampart]

my throat hurts, I had to talk as so many NPCs with so many varying voices

[narrow moss]

oof

time for that tea with honey

[severe rampart]

Does Iced Tea count

[narrow moss]

dunno tbh

but resting the voice is important so you do you

[celest hornet]

Thats some next level voice actor stuff !

[spare tendon]

Hi

[narrow moss]

hullo

[spare tendon]

🤯

[olive storm]

Sorry I left so suddenly. I work at a homeless shelter and told one of the guests that I played D&D and they said something really innapropriate and now I'm irritable and depressed.

[narrow moss]

sorry to hear that

[olive storm]

It's fine. They won't be here much longer.

[narrow moss]

people can be jerks no matter their situation

[olive storm]

Yeah.

[celest hornet]

I work in construction and they asked what was my plans and I let it slip that I play dnd. They called me a wizard for a week. Doesn't help I have a beard too hahaha

[olive storm]

Yeah I feel better now that they went upstairs. That resident has been causing problems (her and her guests) for a while. I'm happy this happened right as she's about to get evicted. Although I am sad that she will be homeless. I hope she can find somewhere else to stay.

Just like... Not here.

But I digress. I appreciate the support but this probably isn't the place to be venting.

On the upside I am actually very excited for my D&D game.

We have 3 players (including me) already.

I really wanna play a satyr eloquence bard.

[celest hornet]

Exactly, its your life so have your fun the way you want it !

[olive storm]

I just don't wanna have us not have a frontline... Like somebody has gotta play martial and it might have to be me... Mainly because satyr paladin is so strong.

[celest hornet]

The ultimate tank, respect for making a PC that looks out for the other players !

[olive storm]

I'm a huge fan of playing evil characters with a very reasonable methodology.

My current backup if we don't have a frontline is a lawful evil orc psi warrior fighter.

[spice crane]

That sounds like a really healthy little DnD community you’ve built getting players together is one thing, but finding more GMs is always the real challenge.
And yeah, that shift you’re describing in CoS is perfect for the setting. Starting off as heroes and slowly turning into survivors is exactly the kind of tone that makes the horror land properly. Sounds like your table is really buying into it.

[olive storm]

Who is just maximum power (STR, INT, CON) and no finesse (WIS, DEX, CHA) who is all about might makes right.

[celest hornet]

Yeah it took awhile but I gathered a good group and have a lovely community of 40 members in the DnD server ! Just need more GMs to join in !

Are you mainly a player and have you experience in dnd much ?

Great to see the DnD community grow

[humble cairn]

Not so much telekinesis as the sheer pressure of their intimidating battle aura/bloodthirst propelling their weapon?

[olive storm]

No, they're using telekinesis to swing their weapon harder. I wanted to make a character that is like a psychic savage fighter.

[humble cairn]

Ah well yes, I'm just giving a flavor to ... well never mind.

[jagged hornet]

Are weapon proficiencies a thing in dnd?

Just asking cos i know there's armor proficiencies, skill proficiencies and tool proficiencies, but i barely know a thing about d&d weapons

[gritty totem]

yes

and there is also weapon mastery which gives a weapon a special ability when you land a hit ( or don't) with it

[jagged hornet]

Thx :3

[humble cairn]

Yes, each class has a section detailing which weapnos they are proficient with.

[jagged hornet]

Can backgrounds have weapon proficiencies?

[severe rampart]

Feels good when you actually roll natural 20s

[celest hornet]

They wouldn't no unless its a custum thing but dont be afraid to ask your DM and plan something up !

[celest hornet]

What you think of nat 20s passing checks automatically ?

[severe rampart]

No, no

[jagged hornet]

Ye, ive been trying to make a fairly homebrewed character, and ive decided to start off with backgrounds

[gusty charm]

You can get tool proficiencies

[severe rampart]

Oh misread that

[jagged hornet]

I thought nat 20s weren't a guaranteed success outside of combat. Am i missremembering?

[olive storm]

I really wanna run a tabletop game set in The Lands Between from Elden Ring.

Definitely on my bucket list.

[severe rampart]

it's only auto success on attack rolls

[celest hornet]

Yeah they aren't but some players think they are and sometimes I find myself agreeing to it. Only sometimes tho !

[olive storm]

One of the main reasons I was considering running it in Pathfinder was because most of the status effects from Elden Ring already exist in that system.

[severe rampart]

alright so, I killed my battlemaster fighter, what magic items could I give to my soulknife rogue (his backup character)

[glass granite]

Oof, did they lose the duel?

[jagged hornet]

Tbh, my past dm only let d20s outside of combat auto succeed if its funny enough. Our general rule as a group was if its funny, it just might work

[severe rampart]

Unfortunately

[humble cairn]

Soulknives do well with defensive and utility items. Weapons aren't that great for them if they want to use their psychic knives a lot.

[severe rampart]

it was neck and neck, the enemy had 3 hp left

[celest hornet]

Yeah id be the same and I think its a good thing. Like if something will slow down the pace outside of combat and someone rolls a nat 20 ill let them explain how they do it and let it pass !

[jagged hornet]

Ye

[humble cairn]

One of the things a Soulknife does well is scout, because they can telepathically communicate with their party even if they are sneaking off alone. So something that grants invisibility or aids in stealth is great if that's what they want to do.

[humble cairn]

If you're homebrewing something, an item that gives +X bonuses to their Psychic Blades would be nice since there's nothign that does that.

[severe rampart]

Yup, considering it

[humble cairn]

Are you using 2024 rules? Maybe it could give some neat extra Cunning Strike Action unique to Psychic Blades!

[severe rampart]

Smart!

[humble cairn]

Idea: Cunning Strike - "Memory Incision" Cost (3d6) The target must make an Intelligence Saving Throw. On a failure it forgets everything that happened in the previous round. On a success it takes 1d6 Psychic Damage.

[severe rampart]

oh hey! that could actually be useful for some out of combat things

I should take inspiration too from the fact that their rogue is a painter

they flavor their soulknifes as "paintbrushes"

[gusty charm]

Caster forgets they’re out of spell slots and keeps trying to do spells

[thorn osprey]

Am I weird for being a bit upset that one of my players changed his character's race entirely on the fact that he just felt "it'll be stronger" if he changed it? Even though it kinda makes no sense, as I believe humans are better for wizards than elves?

[gusty charm]

Was it before or after you started?

[thorn osprey]

We haven't started no, but it was like 99% there

and his own story falls apart if he becomes an elf

[humble cairn]

I'm getting red flags from both of you, tbh.

[gusty charm]

Can he rewrite his background without it effecting (affecting?) the campaign?

[gusty charm]

What

[thorn osprey]

I believe so, I'll just talk to him about it and see what we can manage together tbh

[gusty charm]

I would allow it, just make sure they understand they can’t switch all willy-nilly once the campaign starts

[severe rampart]

oh god I just looked at my player's description of their halfling, 2 foot 6 inches tall 😭

a halfling among halflings

[thorn osprey]

Of course, thanks for help tho

[humble cairn]

Changing species just for being stronger is kinda meh if you're in a campaign focused around the story, but also not letting people change their characters for themselves is also a bit sus unless it disrupts other people's plan, and the idea that any species is better for any class is also sus.

[gritty totem]

a quarterling you could say

[severe rampart]

Half a man halfling

[gusty charm]

A bugbear could kick them like a football

[humble cairn]

If you haven't started yet, let them change their character how they want, just ask them to rewrite the story.

[severe rampart]

Now I get why he's got a +11 to stealth, can't even see him if you tried 😭

[thorn osprey]

I will? I am not going to force him into changing the character how I want lol, it's his character not mine

I was just expressing that I am frustrated, that's it.

[humble cairn]

Good. Also any species can be great as any class. Not even to mention you have one whole elf type that is all about having innate wizardry. Don't see why that wouldn't also be great as a Wizard.

[severe rampart]

I think the magic item I'll give him is some heels 😭

[gusty charm]

Giant platform shoes

[thorn osprey]

So small that even a level 1 wizard can throw him

[spice crane]

Okay, that's great! No I can't have much experience in dnd but I really want to play a dnd.

[dim schooner]

when using expeditious retreat, can i dash, use the spell, use the bonus action?

[severe rampart]

That's the intended purpose yeah

[dim schooner]

so i can dash total 3 times

[celest hornet]

As a player or dm ?

[hoary totem]

I love my chromatic, metallic and gem dragons as much as the next adventurer, but I think lung dragons deserve more love

[dim schooner]

if i use vex mastery property, do i get sneak attack

[humble cairn]

No, it should be 2 max.

But you will move 3 times your Speed.

[dim schooner]

i dash, use the spell, use the bonus action

can i do that

[humble cairn]

The spell is a Bonus Action.

But as part of that Bonus Action casting, you already Dash.

[humble cairn]

You can take the Dash Action and then use your Bonus Action to cast the spell, which also counts as another Dash.

[dim schooner]

so i can dash, use the spell, and then on another turn, i can dash and take the bonus action

[humble cairn]

But that's only 2 Dashes in the turn because you already used your Bonus Action to cast the spell, you no longer have a Bonus Action left.

[humble cairn]

Correct. On both of those turns you would be able to Dash twice.

[eager marsh]

No you'd get it on the next attack as it would have advantage.

[humble cairn]

Each Dash adding your Speed in movement again. So if you have 30 Speed you would be able to move 90ft on your first turn and another 90ft on your second turn.

[dim schooner]

ok

[spice crane]

As a player

[candid forge]

Hey, what would you want a class feature for a wizard-like class called "Front of Stage" to do?

[humble cairn]

Are you asking us to homebrew for you based on a name and basically no other context?

[candid forge]

I was just asking what you would expect it to do

It's a class called Magician

[severe rampart]

Isn't that just... a Cartomancer?

[candid forge]

That's specifically with playing cards

Magicians use all sorts of magical tricks

[severe rampart]

Flavor is Free, though

You don't have a to brew a whole new class for a "magician"

[candid forge]

That's fair

[empty thicket]

Magic missiles being a bunch of cards or schorching ray too would be cool

Fire bolt could be used in the same concept

Ice knife same, etc. etc.

[candid forge]

I'll take a look at the existing Wizard class for inspiration. See, the Magician class kinda overhauled the Magic system to cheat spell slots, but I'm sure I could find something I could use from the old Wizard class that could help.

And yea, I plan on bringing in DnD spells but with new flavor

Nah, I just don't like any of the current Wizard class things. They don't match what I'm going for. My class has a spell juggling system that forces you to alternate between casting spells and cantrips to regenerate spell charges which can be used to cast spells, and copy spells at higher levels. Wizard just casts free spells at higher levels.

[severe rampart]

That sounds... unbalanced.

talk to your DM about implementing a homebrew class.

[hot gate]

No class really regenerates spells per say, that's sort of against the resource-attrition idea of D&D. Closest is probably sorcerer, since they can convert between sorcery points and spell slots.

[severe rampart]

schorching ray

[empty thicket]

the coffee didnt got its effect yet, but take it like a new spell

[severe rampart]

I love schorching ray, I pair it with Conjure Major Elementals

[candid forge]

I'll do A LOT of testing. See, I'm making my own little game that just uses the 5E system as a base. I'll only be using a select number of spells specifically balanced to the Magician.

[humble cairn]

Probably take it to #homebrew

[candid forge]

Alright, sorry

[proper forum]

What is a meme that gets quoted in your campaign all the time? For us it's "EmOtIoNaL dAmAgE"

[normal coral]

How would y'all flavor a Watchers Pally with Uthgardt Tribe (SCAG) background dipping into Warlock? Purely from an RP perspective, not mechanically

[vernal owl]

Yea and clerics using channel divinity to exchange for slots

[dire swallow]

storm trooper aim

[glad arch]

Npc's calling our centaur a horse

[dire swallow]

if we don't hit anything for multiple rolls we are storm troopers

[hot gate]

"ElDriTCh BLäääst" hasn't gotten old yet

[glad arch]

My paladin would be the bestest storm trooper

We joke about me hitting enemies as often as they hit me

[lime cedar]

ours is "army dragon" (i wrote that instead of "dragon army") and the other is Kevin, the normal-sized flamingo (i said a flamingo was 6ft tall and they're not so all my players made fun of me for not knowing the height of a flamingo)

[glad arch]

Thats some big flamingos

[lime cedar]

I DIDNT KNO.... they also said i think they're so tall because im short. 😩 DMs can just never win

[proper forum]

And just as I'm about to become a DM...

[hot gate]

army dragon is pretty evocative

[lime cedar]

XDD
do it, it's all in good fun

[proper forum]

Wait your group doesn't have voice chat?

[lime cedar]

ah no we do

i wrote it on the map

[near adder]

"The dice witch is picking favorites today"

[proper forum]

Another one is n'wah because my dark elf character says it a lot (iykyk)

[lime cedar]

like, nyah?

[proper forum]

You don't know

I'm not elaborating.

[still plover]

Reminds me of the dragon in the novel Grunts! but I can't easily find their actual name.

[proper forum]

In my old campaign we had way more memes. We had cheese (our rogue was a mouse and was addicted to cheese) and Hector (our sharpshooter's name was Theodore, I couldn't remember his name so I called him Hector, so I made it recurring that my character can't remember Theodore's name and calls him Hector).

[hot gate]

In one of my camapigns we had everyones favorite npc Boblin, except boblin was a legendary elf fighter.

[still plover]

Communication via eyebrows when subvocal or closed vox aren't options but we want to discuss things without NPCs catching on.

[viral kraken]

at least 5.5e has common sign language for silent communication

[junior spade]

New player in our campaign and she only checks the channel if she's pinged, tried to strike an interaction and she didn't even read my posts rah

[viral kraken]

that sounds frustrating. have you gotten a chance to talk to them about it?

[junior spade]

Uhm we're still mid sesh, I'm a player

[viral kraken]

ah i thought it might be play-by-post based on the context

only paying attention when pinged is pretty wild for a live session

[junior spade]

Plus I can't speak too much abt it it'd be bit hypocritical cus I sometimes do that but not to this extent

Cus I always read whatever I missed

[viral kraken]

i had a player who kept missing out on sessions because they though nothing important for the story would happen that session, and i was like you doing stuff is the story!

i mean their character certainly won't be doing much in the way of story if the player is not there to run them

[hot gate]

Yeah 💯
The players are the whole reason any of this is happening. If I didn't want them to influence anything and to write their own story, I'd be writing a book.

[severe rampart]

my PC made a deal with a hag, for a favor that the hag will cash in at a future point ||What's a fun way to cash in that favor||

[glad arch]

First born child /j

[severe rampart]

they offered that. but no

[viral kraken]

idk i think hazbin hotel did a good turn with that idea, a really simple sounding favor deployed at the right time for huge effect

[hot marlin]

Does the hag have any way to pressure the PC?

[glad arch]

Something conflicting to the players morals

[severe rampart]

||The PCs eye has turned a cloudy white, so, yeah, the hag can see everything they do, and could be in their dreams||

[viral kraken]

oh that is fun

[hot marlin]

Oh, night hag then?

[severe rampart]

indeed

[hot marlin]

Alright. So you have two options. The first is for the favor to be something unrelated to the plot, like "kill this person for me", or for it to be a complication that happens within the plot. Like "when you fight [bad guy], destroy his staff, but make sure he runs away from your teammates"

I prefer the second option.

Then you have two other options for the consequences of that favor. The first is to have the favor be something that seems unconsequential, but with a huge domino effect. That groooms the player into accepting it and dealing with the consequences. The second is to have the favor be something huge, so that the player is primed to refuse it, putting them in conflict with the hag

[severe rampart]

they've already made the deal, if they refuse to do good, what would happen? hmm

[hot marlin]

Honestly, a night hag stalking you and your team every night, giving info to your enemies and attacking you in your dreams is bad enough.

[severe rampart]

before I proceed on asking, Incubus, have you played Curse of Strahd before? if so, maybe we can go to #1029842470810439810 ?

If not then I'll ask things that don't reveal spoilers, things about the PC, etc.

[hot marlin]

I played it. Let's head there

[severe rampart]

great!

[rotund thunder]

Am I the only one baffled by how pass without trace exists?

It's just a spell that grants the entire party a massive buff to stealth that completely breaks bounded accuracy for one skill specifically

If it was a homebrew spell, I imagine people would write it off as silly, unbalanced, and overly specific

[vagrant notch]

Does goggles of night need attunement

[viral kraken]

free darkvision, no attunement required

[vagrant notch]

Okay

[weak ivy]

Yeah I simultaneously love it and hate it

[lean wigeon]

i think it should be a cantrip actually

[glad arch]

Pass without trace is the only way my 10 dex heavy armor paladin can pass stealth checks

[woven flint]

Its not that overpowered in all reality.

Also, morning, folks!

[rotund thunder]

I know it's not actually that overpowered I just don't like that it's the only spell in the game to completely break the math

[woven flint]

I dont think it breaks any math
Literally all it is is a +10 to stealth checks

[rotund thunder]

Sure but like, nothing else in the game offers a +10 to anything

[woven flint]

Looks at War Gods blessing

[rotund thunder]

Ok that's the one other exception, fair point

[woven flint]

I dont think PWT is a problem unless you let it be a problem

Party stealth checks are still the groups stealth total divided by individuals in the group I believe? Or i think divided by 5 in general

Ive been in groups where we've failed with PWT

[glad arch]

Ofcourse its still possible, but when the minimum roll is now 11 it gets quite difficult

[rotund thunder]

What, when has it ever been divided by any number?

[woven flint]

Ah, sorry, correction, it's when half or more of the group succeeds.

[rotund thunder]

Funny enough, every DM I've played with runs stealth as a group check when the whole party wants to stealth, even though the DMG mentions stealth should never be a group check in particular because each individual matters for it

Anyways, the spell isn't a huge deal especially if you run group the way I and most other DMs I've played with do

I just think getting a +10 to one specific skill for the whole party is pretty crazy given that this is the same level where you could be casting enhance ability to add advantage on checks for only one type of ability score

[woven flint]

True, but you can't enhance ability EVERYONE at that level

Oops, idk why it replied to that

[rotund thunder]

No idea why that happened but I get what you mean

[woven flint]

The secret is everyone having Cleric magic initiate for guidance /joking

[rotund thunder]

as much as I am making a big deal out of it, I'ts only for druids, rangers, and trickery clerics

and I don't actually think it's a huge problem, I just think it's funny that there's just this one random spell that can turn a party that might fail due to heavy armor or bad stealth and turn everyone's minimum stealth into at least around a 10 or so

Since it can effect the entire party

[woven flint]

I do agree that it's a strong effect

[hollow nebula]

How do I play

[woven flint]

Maybe even for its level in all reality

[rotund thunder]

It's not like, a problem spell, it actually helps solve a major issue for the entire party

[viral kraken]

#learn-to-play #dnd-newcomers

[hollow nebula]

Oh

[woven flint]

The spell that is based

[hollow nebula]

Where do I play

[rough basalt]

it only becomes a problem if stealth itself is a problem

[viral kraken]

#find-a-game

[hollow nebula]

Can I be anything I want

[woven flint]

Its one of those cases where it's a
"Yes, but actually No" type of answer

[rotund thunder]

Like, if my gamecould be ruined by a good stealth roll, they would be pretty poorly though out game I was running

[hollow nebula]

That’s not very helpful

[rough basalt]

You can be anything you want within the confines of the rules.

[woven flint]

^^^

[hollow nebula]

I have a character I made up

He is the dna unraveling wizard he unravels dna

[fair summit]

Basically when making a character, you pick a race / species, class and a background, and you can basically make almost anything within those rules
You could also flavor things or use homebrew, so with that the answer is "yes, but", and requires the approval of your DM

[woven flint]

There's a lot you can be, but there are constraints

[hollow nebula]

Human, wizard I guess, discovered he can unravel dna and now likes to unravel people’s dna for no reason

[woven flint]

Its for the sake of the games balance and fun for all, though

[hollow nebula]

Oh

I get it

[woven flint]

You'd probably be a Transmutation Wizard if you wanted that flavor

[fair summit]

So no, you cant just decide you have a spell that kills everyone at no cost. Thats not gonna be fun for a game 😛

[hollow nebula]

Oh

[rotund thunder]

The simpler answer is its a game with classes, subclasses, and rules and such

[woven flint]

Old Transmutation wizard isn't that good, but a new version is coming in the Arcana Unleashed book

[hollow nebula]

What is that bro

[fair summit]

You would pick your spells from your class' spell list, though you could flavor things the way you like, such as a spell that deals necrotic damage or weakening enemies working as you "undoing their DNA"

[rotund thunder]

And also, what you play would entirely depend on the world of the game you play in. Some dungeon masters will make their own world, some use an existing official world, etc.

[hollow nebula]

Can I make up spells

[woven flint]

Transmutation is a spell school that allows you to transform/alter things.

[hollow nebula]

Yes

[rough basalt]

No, least not yourself.

[fair summit]

That would be homebrew, so yes, but it does require DM approval

[gusty charm]

Not really, you can suggest homebrew to your DM if you want but don’t expect it to go well

[hollow nebula]

Ok

Ohhh dm means dungeon master

[woven flint]

Only in rare cases where dms allow.
I think there are rules for it, but I'd wait for a bit of experience before asking if I were you

[hollow nebula]

Ok

Can I still be called the dna unraveler

[rotund thunder]

Hopefully we're making sense

[gusty charm]

That seems like an uncooperative character. Remember your character needs to be willing to work with others towards the established common goal

[hollow nebula]

Yes u are thank u

[lavish flame]

you can be called whatever you'd like

[hollow nebula]

Yo ts acc frying me bro u genuinely hilarious

[lavish flame]

I've got a character named Cucaracha, I've got another named The Floating Fire. Names can get weird in D&D.

[rotund thunder]

The short answer to a lot of the questions is that a dungeon master runs the game and decides the tone of the world and what's possible and such

[hollow nebula]

DNA unraveller 9000 it is

[gusty charm]

Sorry :/

[hollow nebula]

No bro I found it funny

Is a good thing

[woven flint]

Hey, Kasuf :3

[gusty charm]

Hey Tokii :)

[flint ledge]

Good Timezone everyone

[valid geyser]

how many features give effects like "enemies have disadvantage on attacks against allies other than you"? I'm kinda missing that enemy redirection on my fighter

[rough basalt]

Goading attack

[reef tundra]

Compelled duel

[viral kraken]

ya i don't know of a ton (wish there were more) but swashbuckler can

[reef tundra]

Grappling

So that’s 4 solid options so far, tryna remember some others

[rotund thunder]

Oh yeah, 2024 grappling is great for tanks because of that, good call

[rough basalt]

Especially since you can grapple on opportunity attacks now.

[rotund thunder]

Could you not do that before?

It was still a special attack, but maybe I'm misremembering some "when you attack on your turn" language from the 2014 book

[valid geyser]

grapples are built into unarmed strikes in 2024 compared to being a seperate action

[rotund thunder]

I thought previously grapples were just something you could replace an attack with, my bad

[fossil hollow]

thats how they worked before yes

[valid geyser]

they replace the attack action, and attack of opportunity doesnt use the action

[fossil hollow]

they dont replace the action

[rough basalt]

You couldn't grapple on OAs before yeah

[rough stratus]

hii

[humble cairn]

Yep, they beefed up the Grappled Condition, too.

[rough basalt]

And the grappler feat got a good overhaul

Went from something you tricked someone into taking as a prank into a must have if you wanna grapple and a pretty good one if you're an unarmed martial cause of how good grapple is now.

[fossil hollow]

what?

what?

class and background for what

Do you know how little that narrows it down

[fossil hollow]

^

• Timothea Lauma, Centaur Bladesinger Wizard. Inquisitive.
• Walang Pangalang, Aasimar Scion of the Three Rogue. Harper.
• Qiln Tempestheart. Hobgoblin Beast Master Ranger. Emerald Enclave.

[lavish flame]

Aasimar are like Tieflings but for the upper planes, they sorta Angel-like

the Harpers and the Emerald Enclave are factions/organizations in the Forgotten Realms setting. Inquisitive is a background

[fossil hollow]

You asked for their backgrounds, thats what theirs is

[fossil hollow]

Funnily enough... he's from Acheron lol. Or at least claims to be. (He's a hobgoblin)

[stray lantern]

Wasn't inqusitive a rogue subclass?

[fossil hollow]

Its both a rogue subclass and a background

[stray lantern]

2024?

[fossil hollow]

its a background in the new eberron book yes

[lavish flame]

bro is farting in the chat

[lavish flame]

Yeah, its been both for a lil bit. I really hope that Inquisitive Rogue gets a solid 5.5 update, cuz it was kinda terrible.

[woven flint]

Inquisitive is getting updated?

[lavish flame]

i dunno, I just said I hope it does

[humble cairn]

There are more Backgrounds than what are in the Player's Handbook. There are Backgrounds associated with the Harpers and the Emerald Enclave in the Heroes of Faerun book.

[woven flint]

Oh, I just saw that lol

[stray lantern]

It really felt like they took random stuff threw it at the wall and decided "Yeah let's also make it like that one scene from Sherlock Holmes"

[grand peak]

I am looking into making a Scion of the Three Rogue. What is a good INT to go for and does it work best single class?

[fossil hollow]

playing a Scion of the Three rn, and ive seen a level 15 one in action, around 16 is good, but more is also good for more uses of Bloodthirst. You generally want more of your subclass features

[grand peak]

Rapier and Dart or Shortsword and Scimitar?

[fossil hollow]

I went with Dagger and Handcrossbow

[oblique current]

just discovered dark sun, such a cool setting I kinda wanna do something with it

[woven flint]

A Pwague doctor

[oblique current]

tho I think you could do a facelift on it to make it a little more topical

sorcerer kings weilding an inherently destructive leech like art that they jealously horde the secrets to with no regard for the people around them, intent that they'll rule the ashes?

[viral kraken]

i read that as "tropical"

[rough basalt]

Well Dark Sun is a like pollution tale kinda deal thing

[oblique current]

name that guy sam altman

[rough basalt]

Defiler magic is "non-renewable power" that ruined the world

[oblique current]

that but there are some kinda gross implications with the og way things go down

[woven flint]

Sam Saman

[rough basalt]

I mean its a terrible world

[oblique current]

not in the actual setting itself, its an evil world gross shit needs to happen or that "evil" will feel toothless, but in how it came to be

the evil guy who started it all being evil because he's physicaly deformed?

thats maybe a tad uhhhhh

[rough basalt]

Eh

Cyric is evil cause hes ugly and has an inferiority complex towards others

Some people do just become a holes because they can't accept their own shortcomings or their own nature

[oblique current]

the way hes discribed hes more like actualy disabled than ugly*

[rough basalt]

To me it feels more like deformed, like the traitor in 300.

But "they make fun of me so ima destroy the world" is classic pathetic villain

[harsh hollow]

Just for clarification, are the species in the new starter packs the 2014 versions? It would be a weird way to release 2024 updates but I wouldn't put it past them.

[woven flint]

Cleric, Druid, Monk and Paladin for the Icewindale group 🧐

I should've been a Ranger for the Full wisdom group 💀

[empty thicket]

Finally in the fighting session i was craving so much, i already landed like 3 critics and killed like 5 enemies (kinda, the weapon i have leave them at 1hp and paralyzed until a lesser restoration is used on them, useful for my allies to glory kill them and get resources)

[atomic kayak]

They list what they are from, which just appears to be whichever the most recent printing is

[severe rampart]

Badass!

[rough basalt]

I wish i had an LGS near me

[severe rampart]

wait you landed three critics?

[empty thicket]

yeah, champion

[severe rampart]

there's a restaurant they should be in

[empty thicket]

im using all the resources i have.

And now im locking even harder, an ally got down.

[empty thicket]

Yeah, in hell

[harsh hollow]

Ahh, yeah. I think for most of these that's 2014 then.

[empty thicket]

Hell kitchen.

[severe rampart]

Ba dum tiss

[rough basalt]

Wish i had something to do rn in general

[atomic kayak]

2024 phb and MMM (which is 2014 most technically) covers like 70% of all species options ever released for 5e

[empty thicket]

give me an epic phrase to say

[harsh hollow]

I know they've been updating older species so I've been keeping an eye out for the ones they haven't gotten to yet.

[robust raven]

Just comin thru with a quick lil question, cuz I'm tired and I can't find the answer and I'm just such a newbie to ts.
Do the skills depend on ability scores? Or how do I know how many points each skill is?

[fossil hollow]

Skills at base have a stat associated with them

[gusty charm]

each skill is associated with stats

And then you also add proficiency bonus

[fossil hollow]

You add the modifier from that stat, and your Proficiency Bonus if you have Proficiency in that skill. Sometimes, the DM might ask to roll a stat thats not typically associated with that skill

[robust raven]

What stats? 😅

[fossil hollow]

Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma

Oh if youre new to the game, feel free to check out the Basic Rules and #dnd-newcomers

[thorn osprey]

So, a spell like Fire ball--which stats would it use?

Or would it always use INT because that's the wizard's default?

[fossil hollow]

It depends on whats letting you cast fireball

If youre new, feel free to check out #dnd-newcomers

[merry epoch]

Hello There

[thorn osprey]

The last question there was already mine

[fossil hollow]

oh, i dont have that channel on my list

[thorn osprey]

👍 All good!

[cedar bane]

so fireball makes the enemy make a saving throw rather than you rolling, but the dc is usually 8 + pb + spellcasting modifer

your spellcasting modifier determined by your class if youre a spellcaster (wizard is int, sorc is cha, cleric is wis)

you use your spellcasting modifier for attack bonuses as well, if youre casting spell that uses an attack roll

some feats (magic initiate i think and the touched ones) let you choose your spellcasting modifier, and items usually have a set DC or bonus, but otherwise say which modifer to use

[rough basalt]

that requires creative power which I currently do not possess.

[viral kraken]

i mean that would be an epic phrase if framed correctly: like a wizened old mage saying that to the party as they ask why the mage can't solve the plot for them

[robust raven]

Thxx

[robust raven]

Ty

[thorn osprey]

Ohhhh, gotcha. So, if the DC is like 20; the enemy needs to roll for int? Or another stat entirely

[cedar bane]

that depends on the spell. fireball is a dex save

[rough basalt]

True but thats not my point.

[thorn osprey]

Gotcha, thanks!

[blissful ibex]

not really; it's more like ~60 for resistance
people blow it way out of proportion; and for immunity it's mostly stuff like constructs, elementals, fiends, and undead which is obvious it wouldn't work on

[rough basalt]

its only 100 or so out of 500 in the new MM

Its just all the enemies that are immune to poison are the ones dms use the absolute most above all

[blissful ibex]

and you're generally going to be fighting a lot of stuff that isn't immune, depending on the campaign

[thorn osprey]

I think you gotta look into different settings maybe? I believe DND by nature has many monsters/places that are full of poison resisting enemies, such as undead ect.

[thorn osprey]

They're just the most common enemies it seems

[rough basalt]

Most dms do exclusively use undead, fiends, elementals and constructs

[fossil hollow]

If youre fighting Fiends, Constructs, Elementals, Undead though, tough luck

[rough basalt]

Only dragon that cant be hurt by poison is Green

[blissful ibex]

as long as it's not green

[onyx haven]

There's only 16 mon blocks in 5.5e core/expanded that resist poison
and and 140+ that're immune to it lol

[rough basalt]

Poisons actually very viable

its just dms gotta lock in and use more than just undead

[thorn osprey]

Which dragon would you all fit as best at "finding" ores/rare minerals

[blissful ibex]

that's why you have a a cleric
to make that not realy feasable c:

[onyx haven]

Poison's a damage type that either it works or it doesn't. There's not too many options for damage mitigation.

[rough basalt]

Nice, I use cloudkill

Poison cloud

[thorn osprey]

A very big poison cloud

[rough basalt]

Poison is one of the things in 5.5e that are majorly held back by the dm rather than the system

[fossil hollow]

Mustard Gas

[thorn osprey]

It's like, if you're going with a fire-caster focused build, and your DM sends you to hell

[rough basalt]

Enemies that are immune to poison are also the absolute easiest enemies to use

[thorn osprey]

Like yeah, you're probably gonna feel useless

[rough basalt]

Specifically the nine hells yeah

But in the Abyss? youd be fine actually

Theres only 1 Demon overall that are fully immune to fire in MotM and '25 MM combined

And its Balors

[fossil hollow]

Monster Manual

[rough basalt]

Monster Manual

I looked the other day and Balors are the only Demon immune to fire funny enough

All the statblocked Demon Lords only resist fire.

[stray sage]

how good is the reduce part of enlarge/reduce?

[turbid vessel]

I'm afraid I'm not John DnD so I can't answer that for certain

[rough basalt]

Cause DnD isn't a narrative over mechanics system no matter how much people want it to be or they advertise it as such.

[valid geyser]

i know the answer

[turbid vessel]

Great for utility in a group with a lil creativity

[valid geyser]

its because gary gygax wanted to emulate the magic system from the dying earth books, where spells were implanted in ones memory and forgotten once casted, and over fifty years it just didnt change

[rough basalt]

You'd be playing something else.

[lavish flame]

D&D had to invent "how does spells work" and since D&D came from wargaming (and because of Jack Vance's Dying Earth series), they decided to make magic work like special ammunition that gets expended. It used to be more complocated than Spell Slots.

[valid geyser]

and also not a thing in 5e, but most editions your spell slots were actually slotted in, as in you had to choose what spell was put to each slot at the start of a day. spells were a resource you had to be careful with

[lavish flame]

You used to prepare multiple castings of individual spells, like for a day you'd prepare 3 Lesser Restorations, 2 Cure Light Wounds, and 1 Bane.

[onyx haven]

There was an alt system that essentially was mana. Where you just got a bunch of points you could spend on spells.

[rough basalt]

It wasn't a very good system however.

[valid geyser]

but yeah dmg 2014 has spell points system

[gusty charm]

There’s spell points, at least in 5e I think

[rough basalt]

Spell points aren't really mana tho.

[onyx haven]

I kinda like idea more. But it needed to be more fleshed out. Like, IIRC, You could potentially cast like 2-3 9th level spells a day, if you just did not care about anything else.

[rough basalt]

It's just slots but different flavored at points.

[valid geyser]

i think there was an asterisk on 9th level spells, but it just meant more high level slots yeah, can work but the game wasnt designed around that kind of gameplay

[rough basalt]

But yeah older editions Spellcasters relied on weapons more

[gusty charm]

Thanks for sharing

[gusty charm]

Ditto

[valid geyser]

kinda? it's more that old editions had a less even curve of power progession. Casters were meant to start weak and end incredibly strong

[onyx haven]

Depends on the spell in melee.

[rough basalt]

Yeah I forgot to add at lower levels.

[onyx haven]

There's nothing specific about magic in melee range. But there are things about doing ranged attacks in melee

[lavish flame]

am I "toot"? please call me Gwyn

[valid geyser]

most likely page space limitations, and its not like its completely unusable in 5.5

[rough basalt]

Also they wanted the new DMG to be focused on helping new DMs

[lavish flame]

DMG 5.5 just didnt focus on having optional/variant rules

[rough basalt]

The Old DMG in older dnd editions would've been a DMG 2

[lavish flame]

DMG 5e did

[onyx haven]

5.5e was a lot more player focused here. And since it wasn't an often used system, it was left in the 5e DMG

[rough basalt]

5es DMG was more focused on giving a toolbox for experienced GMs.

And most of it's tools were either abandoned or didn't need updated.

[lavish flame]

Woah, yeah i never even realized

Thats super DMG 2-coded

[rough basalt]

Like the "race rules" for monster customization

Like making an Orc Bandit so you lower their intelligence.

[jolly canyon]

Yee I plan on getting the 2014 dmg real soon. I know it has a more robust build encounter for long adventuring days

[rough basalt]

Which I'm not surprised and not upset didn't get reprinted.

[rough basalt]

It's encounter builder doesn't work

[fossil hollow]

The math on the 2024 one is a lot better for encounters

[jolly canyon]

Oh?

[valid geyser]

ill be honest. i kinda think the npc species rules wouldve actually been useful in the 5.5 dmg since all the humanoid statblocks are generic

[rough basalt]

The 2014 DMG encounter builder didn't use the right math

[jolly canyon]

Dang

[rough basalt]

Yeah you don't get better 5e balance rules than the 5.5e dmg

[rough basalt]

They're still in the 5.5e technically

There just not telling you to make Orc enemies dumber cause "Orcs are stupid"

[kindred wyvern]

Orcs can be smart tho

[valid geyser]

i mean the big bucket of abilities to reflavor had a couple species features

i just wouldve liked some templates

[lavish flame]

bro please do not call me the onomatopoeia for a fart, I VASTLY prefer my name

[rough basalt]

Not according to old 5e

They're meant to be used in any situation involving humanoids

As templates.

[kindred wyvern]

My friend plays an orc wizard tho and wizards are smart

[valid geyser]

generic in that a humanoid block doesnt represent a specific species. Albeit some humanoid species in the monster manual just changed creature type

[uncut zenith]

Yeah prior to MotM even playable orcs had I believe a -2 to INT

[rough basalt]

Yep ole Mikey Mearls

[uncut zenith]

So an orc wizard was inherently dumber than any other wizard by pure virtue of being an orc

[rough basalt]

A lot of the "generic humanoid" statblocks were just specific Humanoid statblocks originally

Made generic so you can apply them to any species.

Got Drow Bandits? Give them Dancing Lights, Darkvision and Faerie Fire.

[viral kraken]

an optimized orc wizard would have less int than another optimized wizard, but that isn't to say that the smartest orc wizard is dumber than the dumbest non-orc wizard fwiw

[valid geyser]

which is kinda why id have liked species templates in the dmg instead of the bucket of features

[fossil hollow]

using the DMG applying a species on monsters, an archmage or mage orc would have -2 to INT

[uncut zenith]

I mean, in fairness, those templates are still available to use in 2024

They’re cross compatible, I don’t really think they needed to be reprinted

[fossil hollow]

Its also not hard to add Adrenaline Rush or Relentless

[rough basalt]

Like for my statblocks that are orcs I give them adrenaline rush.

[valid geyser]

you can, i just think theyre kinda worthless in 2014 but wouldve actually been useful in the 2024 dmg, and i wouldve liked an update not to have ability score changes

wouldve been a good opportunity is all

[stray lantern]

I mean either way they eventually become tunnel funnel, no?

[fossil hollow]

what

[empty thicket]

Welp

[uncut zenith]

Just because they weren’t printed in the 2024 DMG doesn’t mean the templates in the 2014 DMG don’t work, so I have no problem just taking from Book A and applying to Book B

[lavish flame]

in release Volo's yeah, but by the time Eberron and Wildemount reprinted them without it Volo's got an Errata removing the -2.

[empty thicket]

today session was... interesting

[stray lantern]

Tunnel funnel=Meat for the grinder

[valid geyser]

i think were arguing different things

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, the VGtM racial stat detriments were a mistake

Very glad they got rid of them

[fossil hollow]

Volo being racist as usual

[empty thicket]

It was a fighting session mostly, we got into 2 encounters
1 against some giant chicken with hooks
another against some cultist and... things went wild

[valid geyser]

im not really looking for a solution, just wouldve been good to have hypothetically and its too late to change

[empty thicket]

We took down teh chickens easily
The cultist were a bit more hard but... things went bad in some moment

An ally got down, got hold hostage

[rough basalt]

A big named npc in the Forgotten Realms

[severe rampart]

How did you beat chickens? they're CR 31 monsters

[rough basalt]

He's a level 1 wizard posing as a bard.

[empty thicket]

another ally got into frenzy and attacked me, i defended myself and took him down....

[rough basalt]

The entire realms hate him cause he's gigaracist and constantly publishes misinformation.

[valid geyser]

but i kinda understand templates have been thrown out, and i kinda think it shouldve gone the other way

[fossil hollow]

a stupid wizard minstrel

[rough basalt]

And that's with Elminster editing out a lot of his racism and idiocy.

[woven flint]

Volo should be beaten to a pulp

[fossil hollow]

yall should kill volo

[empty thicket]

i run away with his body thinking was only unconscious, he was dead....i killed him
Other companion tried to look him and i said dont because it was my kill and i will take care of it.
He attacked me too and i obliterated him easily

[rough basalt]

Attacking Volo imo is a lawful good act

Since he's constantly a menace to society

[stray lantern]

Elminster if he was a class clown

[empty thicket]

I was the one survivor carrying my artificer and the first dead ally

[severe rampart]

I thought Volo was the one who made that book that stereotyped monsters

[woven flint]

Volo is a level 1 Wizard who parades around as a bard.

[rough basalt]

Yep he also stereotypes people in the Forgotten Realms

[woven flint]

The MEGA racist

[rough basalt]

He's written books on Dwarves that'll get him strangled in the silver marches.

He's the CEO of Racism on Faerun.

[severe rampart]

That's why his book was bad

what was it... Volo's Guide to Monsters?

[woven flint]

Yes

[severe rampart]

Yeah I remember, Orcs were portrayed as savages there right?

[rough basalt]

Yep

[woven flint]

"Lizardfolk possess an alien and inscrutable mindset, their desires and thoughts driven by a different set of basic principles than those of warm-blooded creatures. Their dismal swamp homes might lie hundreds of miles from the nearest human settlement, but the gap between their way of thinking and that of the smooth-skins is far greater."
-Volo's Guide To Monsters on Lizardfolk

He's a stinker.

[severe rampart]

Kill Volo

[stray lantern]

Don't forget that canonically, Volo's existence is important for the Weave because he's Mystra's guy.

[woven flint]

That's the sad part.

[severe rampart]

I thought Elminster was Mystra's guy

[hot marlin]

Mystra has a lot of guys

[rough basalt]

Ye Mystra made him a weave anchor cause no one would suspect the most pathetic person alive to be so important.

[uncut zenith]

Yeah and WOTC basically swept it under the rug by saying the book was written from Volo’s biased perspective lol

[woven flint]

You can't kill him or you'll screw over a lot of things

[hot marlin]

And quite a few gals

[severe rampart]

inclusion, already better than Volo

Wait, is Mystra a bad person? in canon?

[woven flint]

thats the funny part

[rough basalt]

Volo is like a racist dude in a Key and Peele skit

But unironically

[uncut zenith]

“WE didn’t write it, Volo did!”

[stray lantern]

Talking about how Volo is a weave anchor, and because of this Elminster, Mystra and some of her other lackeys have had to come to rescue him

[hot marlin]

Remember the rule: Never own up to your mistake, always blame someone else, even if that person needs to be invented for it

[woven flint]

"Savage and fearless, orc tribes are ever in search of elves, dwarves, and humans to destroy. Motivated by their hatred of the civilized races of the world and their need to satisfy the demands of their deities, the orcs know that if they fight well and bring glory to their tribe, Gruumsh will call them home."

Yeah guys, VOLO said that, not us WOTC who wrote the character

[rough basalt]

Well wasn't Mearls the one behind the "orcs are dumb" stuff for 5e?

[valid geyser]

i don't think so? or at least there's no one person to blame

[uncut zenith]

Mearls wasn’t the only one on the design team

[rough basalt]

I think Mearls was just the spearhead or whatever

[turbid vessel]

I associate mearls more with being pro ivory-tower game design

[uncut zenith]

Those kinds of decisions are usually decided upon by a group, not by an individual

[hot marlin]

Yeah don't get too caught up in author delusion.

Everything big in history has always been the product of a group.

[uncut zenith]

Like how a lot of people blame Crawford for the 5E rules they don’t like. He was the lead designer and the face of the team, but he wasn’t the only designer.

[lost flicker]

What are we talking about

[valid geyser]

yeah also its weird to say this about like, 2016. But there certainly was a different culture abt this. I think most of the writers probably disagree with the way they wrote it today

[rough basalt]

Ye no one else told him his ideas were bad

[hot marlin]

Currently, it's been Volo's Guide to Monsters and its less-than-modern takes on stuff.

[knotty vine]

Crawford was clearly the only person working on 2014 dnd

I kinda like Volo's guide but it has its issues

[lost flicker]

It's OOD isn't it?

[uncut zenith]

It has its pluses, but it definitely has its minuses

[hot marlin]

Quite a few, mostly in the way it's written. There are many things I like about it, but it just reeks of biological essentialism and utter lack of nuance everywhere

[stray lantern]

Honestly the thing I like the most about it was the Mind Flayer stuff

[valid geyser]

i would definitely like another volos guide style book where we get lore about specific groups of creatures (one big creature type per book isnt sustainable)

[lost flicker]

I have a copy of it

Or

Do I? Hold on

Yes I do

[knotty vine]

Volo's isnt been sold by dnd beyond anymore

[lost flicker]

And tome of foes

Why are they both OOD again?

[knotty vine]

They are non core

[uncut zenith]

Like I like a lot of the lore in VGTM about monsters, like beholders hags and mind flayers, but I hate the lore it published regarding humanoid creatures like orcs goblinoids and kobolds

[knotty vine]

I like that gobinoids and kobolds are no longer humanoids imo

[hot marlin]

Mostly both books have been "updated" in Mordenkainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse. In truth the lore in those books has not been reprinted and a few monsters are missing.

[valid geyser]

i am just kinda scared wotc isnt gonna want to write creature lore anymore so they can leave it to the settings, but setting books don't want a bunch of paragraphs on where each monster fits in the world

[uncut zenith]

Monsters of the Multiverse also updated in a way that didn’t make them Forgotten Realms-centric

[knotty vine]

I also think the goblins from Volo's are diffrent type of goblin from Mordenkainen Presents

[hot marlin]

Even after Monsters of the Multiverse, we still got Fizban's and Bigby's. So creature lore is still present. Few people have negatives about those two

[knotty vine]

They are vastly diff

[uncut zenith]

A lot of the lore in VGtM and MToF is presented from the lenes of a single setting. MotM was basically the first step WOTC took to make their core books not focused on a single setting.

[uncut zenith]

Fizban’s and Bigby’s are still a couple of my favorite 5E books. And it’s almost specifically because they give a lot of lore on those two creature types that doesn’t lean specifically into a single setting.

[valid geyser]

for giants and dragons, you can have entire books about that

idk if that applies to every group of creatures

[hot marlin]

Entire books about undead are feasible. Same for fey. It's harder for plants and beasts.

[sand flower]

My party had a member shakeup and now I'm the only healer and the only one who can cast revivify. Do we have any options if I go down?

[hot marlin]

Though... Honestly I could imagine myself writing a little third party books dedicated to plant monsters.

[uncut zenith]

It makes sense for giants and dragons imo because per the lore those two creature types are inherently tied to the Material Plane regardless of what setting you’re playing in

[knotty vine]

is Plane Shift a officialdnd book?

[fossil hollow]

the MtG stuff? no

[uncut zenith]

I don’t need a Fizban’s/Bigby’s-esque book about plants or constructs

[fossil hollow]

It was made for fun by the MtG designers

[knotty vine]

I see

[fossil hollow]

What about more modrons though

[knotty vine]

So is it homebrew or 3rd party

[knotty vine]

Dead

[uncut zenith]

Yeah the Plane Shift PDFs are basically WOTC-promoted third party content

[fossil hollow]

homebrew

[woven flint]

Clankers.

[knotty vine]

Unused Unearthed Arcana makes me so sad

I still miss city domain cleric

[uncut zenith]

A lot of the unused UA deserves to be in the trash imo

[lavish flame]

plants+beasts in one book could be cool. maybe some more fantastical beasts and more varieties of plants (plant titan!!!)

[knotty vine]

The starter spells were decent

[uncut zenith]

Like I never cared for any of the Modern Magic UA

[knotty vine]

I think morden magic UA was mostly made for a certain type of campgian

[valid geyser]

id kinda like a monster book to be terrain based. Underwater adventures sourcebook, give us details on stuff like merfolk settlements and kraken cults

[knotty vine]

Wasnt very popular through

[lavish flame]

ooh thats a great idea

[knotty vine]

I hate fighting underwater

[pliant crow]

guys, is there a spell that can potentially reveal events of the past?
i have a rogue/scout who was framed and i was wondering if there's something out there to prove he is innocent by divining the past ^^;

[celest sail]

I love modrons they’re so stupid

[knotty vine]

Honestly I dont think so

[woven flint]

I'm a Modron HATER

Autognomes are just better constructs

[knotty vine]

Most spells divi look into the future

[uncut zenith]

Legend Lore

[knotty vine]

Isnt that based on a creature

[hot marlin]

I have a few ideas on plants from different planes. I could imagine a book designed with first some fictional botany, then focused on the plants in different planes.

[knotty vine]

Oh it can be anything

[woven flint]

Thats not necessarily true

Most divinations are...
"I find shit" spells

[uncut zenith]

Person, place, or object

[stray lantern]

I do somewhat miss the -mods from 3.5e like how dwarves are less charismatic cause they're grumbly and reserved, or how bigass races were easier to hit because dawg you are a whole centaur, you are hard to miss.

[knotty vine]

Very costly through

[woven flint]

And then there's other divinations that are pretty much just for spying

[hot marlin]

There is a third party book called underwater adventures. It's good, but relativey short and doesn't do as much as it could have, had it been a WOTC production

[uncut zenith]

Yeah it’s an expensive spell, but it’s a good one if you need a lore drop

[knotty vine]

Ill be watching you

[woven flint]

I'm a Raksasha, good luck

[knotty vine]

This is funny
If the famous thing you chose isn’t actually famous, you hear sad musical notes played on a trombone, and the spell fails.

[valid geyser]

I figured theres something third party. IDK if this is fully related but i do question wotc's longevity of producing books if its just three "heres a guide to an entire setting" and then an adventure anthology every year

[uncut zenith]

I mean tbh given how expensive the spell is, I wouldn’t let my players cast it on an item that’s not significant

[knotty vine]

I cast legend lore on that bug over there

The game: No

[woven flint]

Its the famous bug of fame

[stray lantern]

Cue that 1 Dr Strange gif as you absorb 200 years worth of bug knowledge

[undone cedar]

Hello

[uncut zenith]

I mean they could if they wanted to, but I’d advise them “you’re not gonna get anything by casting Legend Lore on this random gem you found in the dragon’s hoard”

[knotty vine]

Legend lore just sounds like a more costly identify

[uncut zenith]

Don’t burn all that gold just to hear me say “This emerald you found is expensive, and that’s it”

[stray lantern]

But what if the gem needs to go home to their gem family and gem kids?

[knotty vine]

That gem could be the trapped soul of a man who misses him kids

[normal junco]

that sounds truly outrageous

wait, different spelling. doh

[stray lantern]

Or that gem might be the missing gem for that 1 skyrim quest, do YOU want the Dragonborn tracking you down?

[fossil hollow]

Fus. Roh. DAH.

[knotty vine]

In a game with the spell with fire breathing dragons and demons devils and everything else

How is a soul trapped in a gem a little crazy

[fossil hollow]

Itty bitty living space, as Genie would have put it

[stray lantern]

Because that was 3rd edition and we're currently in 5th edition.

[normal junco]

the Wishmaster lived in a gem for a while.

[knotty vine]

Imprisonment is still a spell

[fossil hollow]

Magic Jar is a thing too

Make the jar out of a gem

[knotty vine]

You create a magical restraint to hold a creature that you can see within range. The target must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw or be bound by the spell; if it succeeds, it is immune to this spell if you cast it again. While affected by this spell, the creature doesn't need to breathe, eat, or drink, and it doesn’t age. Divination spells can’t locate or perceive the target.

During the casting of the spell, in any of its versions, you can specify a condition that will cause the spell to end and release the target. The condition can be as specific or as elaborate as you choose, but the DM must agree that the condition is reasonable and has a likelihood of coming to pass. The conditions can be based on a creature’s name, identity, or deity but otherwise must be based on observable actions or qualities and not based on intangibles such as level, class, or hit points.

A Dispel Magic spell can end the spell only if it is cast as a 9th-level spell, targeting either the prison or the special component used to create it.

[fossil hollow]

wait, no, it just uses a gem or drystal

[knotty vine]

You can legit prison realm someone

[stray lantern]

Yeah but the creature lives within the gem at that point, it's not a soul gem for their soul.

[lavish flame]

Magic Jar might be what you want

[knotty vine]

Minimus Containment. The target shrinks to a height of 1 inch and is imprisoned inside a gemstone or similar object. Light can pass through the gemstone normally (allowing the target to see out and other creatures to see in), but nothing else can pass through, even by means of teleportation or planar travel. The gemstone can’t be cut or broken while the spell remains in effect.
The special component for this version of the spell is a large, transparent gemstone, such as a corundum, diamond, or ruby.

[stray lantern]

Yeah cause that's your spirit actually leaving your body and entering any kind of fancy ornamental container worth 250.

[knotty vine]

Soul cage

Saying that we cant trap peoples souls in 5e is just not true

[stray lantern]

Yeah but that's a cage, but it's not a soulstone/soul gem

[knotty vine]

It can be a gem via flavor

[stray lantern]

Never said we couldn't all I said was that 3.5e was the last time WotC printed gem stones as a magical item

[stray lantern]

Yeah but then the argument falls apart because you can just say "Yeah but I flavor it as X"

[hollow nebula]

Fym flavour

Is it tasty

[knotty vine]

Are you new round here?

[fossil hollow]

Cosmetic modding

[knotty vine]

What ti said

[hollow nebula]

Yes

[knotty vine]

Who says the cage cant be a gem

[fossil hollow]

e.g., making your Fireball look like a giant lotus flower when it explodes

[hollow nebula]

Oh

[fossil hollow]

Or making your centaur look like Goldship

[stray lantern]

"Materials(a tiny silver cage worth 100 gp)"

[knotty vine]

A sliver gem worth 100gp

[severe rampart]

what if the gem... is a silver gem

[fossil hollow]

doesnt say has to be made entirely out of silver

[knotty vine]

That too

[lavish flame]

a silver gem?

[valid geyser]

could you transmute the cage into a gem?

[knotty vine]

That alchemy

[fossil hollow]

Nothing is stopping you from putting gems inside or on the silver cage as ornaments

[hollow nebula]

Can I make a fireball look like water

Trickery

[fossil hollow]

As long as you dont change the mechanics

[valid geyser]

if it's hot water, i can see it

[stray lantern]

The silver cage can have a gemstone on, around or in it but either way if you don't have a silver cage made out of silver, the metal, it'd fizzle.

[knotty vine]

Boiling hot waer

[fossil hollow]

Scalding water is a neat reflavor for a fireball

[knotty vine]

It is

[hollow nebula]

Ok

[lavish flame]

yeah, just consider that it still needs to do 8d6 fire damage in a 20' radius sphere. A blob of boiling liquid seems reasonable to me

[hollow nebula]

Hell yeah

[fossil hollow]

Now i wanna make a magma mage

[knotty vine]

I remember that a dragon turtle has a steam breathe weapon that ignores resistance to fire damage but only if the creature is in water

[fossil hollow]

Yeap

[knotty vine]

thats uh

Elden ring

[fossil hollow]

I was thinking more Sina Una

Ring of Fire stuff

[knotty vine]

Wrath

Im gonna make a philosopher's stone now

[stray lantern]

Can't believe that there was a whole argument over a joke about soul gems not being a magical item in 5e, because it hasn't been printed.

[knotty vine]

I was more or less talking about stealing souls not soul gems

Were even getting a lich option to steal souls later on

Cant wait for the Book of Vile Darkness 5.5e

[onyx haven]

🦕 Druid time

[knotty vine]

Just need a few buffs and we will be cooking

[onyx haven]

Still hoping they update that 1 lich perk that lets me get a slot back. It just needs to be up to lvl 5, or have some consideration for Warliches here.

[knotty vine]

Could steal a page out of GH's book somehow

Aka getting a spell slot back but using a soul charge or something along those lines

I like that the lement barbarian can cast speak with dead as a ritual

[onyx haven]

Loud Barbarian is a nice vibe

[stable kiln]

dead server

[craggy summit]

just under 400k members but... ok

[knotty vine]

People usually only come here for the #looking-for-players

[empty thicket]

I today had session!! RAAHHH!!
Was funny, finally got the fighting i wanted... and some i didnt wanted to have

fought against monsters and cultist... but had to fought against allies too, i killed 2 of my allies

[fossil hollow]

first comment in the server is to call it a dead server? What

[empty thicket]

imagine a server having ups and downs in 1 CHAT.

[fossil hollow]

literally 4 minutes of no chatting here too

[knotty vine]

No one talks for 1 minutes: "dead chat"

[meager fractal]

Has there been any news on Dark Sun lately

[knotty vine]

Npo

[rough basalt]

Fun fact, the Sun in Dark Sun isn't actually Dark.

[knotty vine]

Clickbait

[rough basalt]

It's Dark Red

[knotty vine]

Everyspell can be god tier if used in a hyper specific situation with the sole exception of Find Traps of course

[rough basalt]

The potential man of spells

[knotty vine]

There is danger! "ok where" man idk

the spell can tell you that there are traps but not where they are 😭

Not really finding traps

[rough basalt]

It should've been called detect traps

Even then it doesn't detect all traps

[knotty vine]

Thats better

[rough basalt]

Only artificial ones.

[knotty vine]

This spell reveals that a trap is present but not its location

Not even wizard gets find traps thats how useless it is

[rough basalt]

So if the bad guy does something that naturally leads to a weak floor you can fall through, it won't be detected by find traps

[knotty vine]

its such a funny spell lmao

[empty thicket]

so.... long stick moment?

or summon a familiar 300 times?

[knotty vine]

P much

or a barbarian since they have advantage on that

[onyx haven]

It's the anxiety spell. That is all

[knotty vine]

If its a dex save

[onyx haven]

You cast the spell and now you have dread

[knotty vine]

I like Alerm thats another anxiety spell

[empty thicket]

"There is traps in your area" In fact the spell catch the beartraps that my fighter is carrying.

[knotty vine]

for the purpose of this spell, includes any object or mechanism that was created to cause damage or other danger.

[empty thicket]

Alarm at least tell you some enemy is getting closer

can make an ambush or smt

[knotty vine]

It can also wake you up as well

The mental one

[empty thicket]

yep, it have an use

while detect traps is... "there is danger forward"

[onyx haven]

Ritual casting as well for an 8 hour duration.

[empty thicket]

Thanks for giving me anxiety and telling me i might Die for some old forgotten trap
Could you at least tell me WHERE THE TRAP IS!?

i dont want to be the guy that sacrifice 200 rats or carry a long stick in their bag of holding

[rough basalt]

If it was a ritual that'd be better

The fact it's not a ritual just makes it completely worthless

[knotty vine]

Hey I have a question

the new polymorph gives you temp hp right?

[onyx haven]

Oh, it also tells you what kind of trap it is. So you know it's a 9th level explosive glyph of warding.... But not where it is

You know there is a nuke in the room

[knotty vine]

If someone drops con on polymoprh do you lose the temp hp?

[errant crag]

I know it's probably just me but I don't like DMs including characters from my character backstory just by endangering them

[knotty vine]

because it only says the spell ends early if you lose all your temp hp but its not saying that your temp hp is just gone

[lavish flame]

Nah same. Some NPCs just don't have to be in danger for them to be relevant.

[empty thicket]

i guess its like, the T.hp is related to the spell.
You lose the T.hp you transform
You transform you lose the T.hp

[lavish flame]

I recently had a party travel to a PC's hometown and meet their grandmother. She was absolutely not an NPC I needed to threaten for people to care about her.

[knotty vine]

But wouldnt it say that through?

[empty thicket]

in a way yes, but what would be the scenario you didnt?

[lavish flame]

yup, this was the subject of some errata

[knotty vine]

Ah good

[empty thicket]

You got poly into a rat, caged and then when you trasnform you still hold the T.hp of the rat?

[errant crag]

There's just something that really bothers me about it, I'm not sure how to place it exactly

Part of me doesn't like them surviving or not being then lut up to the chance of the dice

[knotty vine]

I just remember in sage advice if the temp hp time wasnt specific it just lasted until long rest

[lavish flame]

Polymorph (p. 306)
In the second paragraph of the spell’s description, the following sentence has been added after the first: “These Temporary Hit Points vanish if any remain when the spell ends.”

[sullen mantle]

Genuine question

[knotty vine]

Using armor of AG + polymoprh could still work through

[dim kernel]

Hey
How are you doing?

[sullen mantle]

Can you create magic food attacks as a wizard main

[knotty vine]

food attacks...?

[empty thicket]

flavor some

[knotty vine]

Like a ... food fight?

[sullen mantle]

Yuh like magic hotdog blast

[empty thicket]

Like, magic missile being sausages
Cold knife being an ice cone
firebolt being hot sauce

[sullen mantle]

Yes

[dim kernel]

Oh, this is a fun concept, wizard combat, but everything is food-themed. Let’s build you a whole spell kit

[lavish flame]

Your magic attacks can be food-themed (like launching drumsticks of chicken when you cast Magic Missile), but there aren't really foodfight spells for anybody

[empty thicket]

Cheese or Bread golem?

[sullen mantle]

PLS

Cheese golem

[knotty vine]

fireball is just really big hot cheese boom

[empty thicket]

Big broth ball

[sullen mantle]

Nacho cheese lava attack

[empty thicket]

Scorching ray would be hot bread sticks

[sullen mantle]

I’m really new to this game so I’m tryna learn so I can play with my friends

[knotty vine]

Hold up is he cooking?

[empty thicket]

mage hand used for wisp while you are adding ingredients

[sullen mantle]

Literally cooking

[dim kernel]

a giant enchanted construct made of hardened cheese that hurls chunks melts into sticky traps and reforms when it gets hit

[knotty vine]

im not gonna lie I love the new monk but the 2024 subclasses are kidna meh expect for shadow and elementals

[empty thicket]

Animate dead the chickens and meats to make them soak themselves in sauce inside of the oven so you dont open it and lose temperature

[knotty vine]

Like open hand is decent

[sullen mantle]

Cherry bombs?

[empty thicket]

sending stones

[sullen mantle]

Coooooool

[knotty vine]

I wish there was a more defense based monk

[sullen mantle]

Isn’t the tabletop game on roll 20?

[dim kernel]

Yes but not quite in the way you might think

[lavish flame]

there's a variety of ways to play the game, Roll20 is one of the ways to play it

[empty thicket]

Wizard is a genius baker
Fighter is a master of a lot of things, baker, smoke, etc. etc.

[sullen mantle]

Ooooo

[empty thicket]

Rogue is a gourmet

[knotty vine]

I still think monks Superior Defense has to be one of the stronger level 18 abilites

[sullen mantle]

Rogue classes used to be one of my favorite classes before I changed to wizard

The long range magic attacks and teleportation are useful

[empty thicket]

Warlock is the pastry chef, because sometimes pastry is sobrenatural ngl.

[sullen mantle]

True

[dim kernel]

That tracks rogue and wizard are basically opposite playstyles

[hot marlin]

The class defined by resources that renew on a long rest that needs to rethink its toolset for every encounter vs the class defined by being consistent and having next to no resources needing to be spent.

[empty thicket]

at least isnt Rogue // warlock

[hot marlin]

Yeah. Pretty much opposite

[lavish flame]

Resource Management (spell slots) vs No Resources (Sneak Attack) is pretty big

[sullen mantle]

I first played warlock but it wasn’t for me

[empty thicket]

unless tried arcane trickster

because arcane use wizard spell list mostly and is around casting spells

[empty thicket]

i want to play it so badly

[knotty vine]

Arcane trickster got a huge upgrade in 2024

[sullen mantle]

Why can’t you

[empty thicket]

not into more than 1 campaign im in right now and i dont want to change the character im playing right now

[dim kernel]

Yeah, exactly, Arcane Trickster is like the perfect middle ground

[empty thicket]

he is getting some good and bad character develpment

Today i expected it to be a only fighting session but damn it took a turn so violently

[empty thicket]

Its good, arcane trickster and Eldritch knigth are good classes and give you a little touch to wizard spells

and doesnt limit you too much like others

[sullen mantle]

Makes sense

[empty thicket]

i have it already builded up and after some time im going to maybe see if i can make him fit into the campaign im now

[dim kernel]

Yeah, that’s a fair take, they’re great hybrid picks

[sullen mantle]

So how does this all work exactly

[empty thicket]

in my case, i would try to retire my actual character in some way.
Lets say he changed his ways of see the things and want to settle down or help in other places and leave the party
and right now im in a church, i could say i talked with some guy and he seems good. So after hearing him i offered to join the company im in and cover my spot

in other campaigns they just straight kill the character and make a new one

[sullen mantle]

Oh that makes more sense

[dim kernel]

Your approach is honestly way better than just killing them off

[empty thicket]

Yep, one of hte party kinda did that

After fighting some demon in hell, got a reality check and leave the party in an emotional goodbye

The new member that was added was saved in some dwarfs mines and i... i killed him today...

[drowsy lance]

Hii, im looking for a dm, who dm my friend group

[empty thicket]

#looking-for-dm try there, good luck.

[drowsy lance]

Tha k you

[steady sentinel]

So trying to think, what book comes with long death monk subclass? Since I've been thinking about playing it

[dim kernel]

You can revive him, tie it into your old character’s exit, or just bring in another recruit from the church

[idle oar]

Actually you'll want #looking-for-players to find a DM that needs players.

[onyx haven]

Wasn't long death a SCAG class?

[drowsy lance]

Alright

[empty thicket]

yep, there is many ways to do it

[onyx haven]

And then into the Xanathars?

[empty thicket]

im planning if i could to revive the killed ally

one of the killed allies

[steady sentinel]

I think it was? It sounds about right

[empty thicket]

the another attacked me without reason, so i wont grief for him

[dim kernel]

Exactly, D&D always gives you a way forward

[open crow]

Hi guys, i really want to get my friends to play DnD with me, but they have no clue what even is DnD, any tips on how to explain it to them and invite them to one shot

[dim kernel]

The other attacked me without reason, so I won't grieve for him

[normal junco]

hmmmm..... how did you learn about it?

[fair goblet]

Check out the video of Deborah Ann Woll explaining it to Jon Bernthal; I think that’s a really good approach to introducing it

[fossil hollow]

#tales-from-the-table

[open crow]

I don't really remember, but one time i asked my old friendgroup, "hey, yall wanna play DnD", and they said "yeah sure" we all knew basically nothing about the game itself so we bought starter kit, dice, stuff and books, and we had great time, and them we stopped talking, so yeah

[open crow]

I will thx

[empty thicket]

take if you wnat, use it later

depend of the kind of puzzle, but i would be in a 7 on them of hating to loving

[craggy summit]

10, I friggin love puzzles 😅 for why, I love things that make me think and use my brain

[lean wigeon]

i'm reading The Way of Kings rn to fuel my next generation of blorbos and concepts to push in the next 10 campaigns i'll be a player in

[craggy summit]

I especially love puzzles that can't be cheated with magic, so it's usually logic kinda puzzles

Mmm I suppose you could do that yeah 😅

Right right, let the players brain do all the work instead of the characters magic or something

[fossil hollow]

Im not a fan of puzzles that rely on the players to figure it out

because its the players solving the puzzle, not the character

you can read the crafting rules

[lavish flame]

Depends on the puzzle, but I generally dislike puzzles that don't have creative solutions

[fossil hollow]

Artificers, depending on subclasses, get to reduce the time they spend working on crafting