dnd-discussion

[empty thicket]

I can be a butcher that love food and want to make good food and instead of being a barbarian or some other class around that i can be a sorcerer or an artificer

[odd valley]

flavor is free, he could be a light cleric who deals in knowledge of the stars

[cinder timber]

That is true

[empty thicket]

Or a warlock and my patron is Gordon ramsey

[cinder timber]

That is true.

[cinder timber]

What happens if you undercook something? 🤔

[empty thicket]

Making the whole thing of "Hell's kitchen" into another level

[lethal bobcat]

nothing more celestial than stars. though we could go into lore overdrive if you knew more context

[empty thicket]

1d6 of force damge, if lethal will be only 1 hp

i mean, that is more than fair honestly

[cinder timber]

Oh, Ramsay is nice

[empty thicket]

See a supernova happen in your dreams, see the whole light, matter, colors and darkness go around you and finally take it like a signal

[cinder timber]

I could make it more meaningful. He was in darkness and chased by something. Supernova, then boom! He goes with light

[empty thicket]

i might think of using it in some moment of the future
A Hexblade warlock that is a cook

[cinder timber]

I will be moving to #character-discussion

[empty thicket]

okey, im chasing you. Dont run.

[lethal bobcat]

now my cook bard feels boring

[empty thicket]

hey that could work too
A happy bard that sing while cooking, making the soup float to the bowls
The bread dance
And the seasoning being magical

[lethal bobcat]

I mean, a bard that cooks is just standard isn't it?

without going into alchemy that is

[empty thicket]

in theory any adventurer can cook

[lethal bobcat]

or rather, it was the class that felt more expected

[empty thicket]

or just buy rations

imagine being able to kill tiamat but dont cook a bread

Move mountains ✅
Season properly the stew ❌

[lethal bobcat]

I dunno, bards feel cook-y the most while druids or rangers feel most forage-y

[empty thicket]

and fighter// barbarian?

Eat a whole animal leg raw like nothing?

Feast a whole rotisserie chicken in the dinner

[lethal bobcat]

100% will poison themselves if going to a different climate, if not grown up a Guard in a normal settlement

[empty thicket]

na, they tough so i doubt

[lethal bobcat]

they can stomach things better sure

but I'd not see a Guide (or former Outlander, rip foraging) Fighter compared to a Ranger

for the most bland food, or ordering at an inn, that's when it probably doesn't matter? but Bards would probably invent garlic butter

[empty thicket]

Barbarian would want something tasty and nice alcohol, its a tough guy that do strength stuff most of the time
Fighter its too open to much kind of things too, so it can be either betting with the bard to see how much alcohol the barbarian can drink

Or be the one competing with him

[lethal bobcat]

oh ye sure... actually, who would be best at making alcohol? because drinking it isn't really a skill

Clerics feel like they can make wine the best but ale feels Commoner-y more than any class, doesn't it?

[empty thicket]

Clerics like irl clerics would make their own drinks
Bards go to bars and places where they perform and get the food//drinks
Warlock is either with lots of money or in a cult that give each other stuff

Paladin can be with the cleric
Ranger and druid wont drink too much because rare to find alcohol in the nature, but could eat some fruits that are fermented for same purpose

Sorc, fighter and rogue wont drink.
sorc for any possible dangerous outcome
Fighter for training purposes or just with some friends
Rogue for being always centered

[lethal bobcat]

Warlock feels a bit lacking in cooking skills even with my criticising the Fighter for it. Martials will at least know somewhat how to cut a pig

[empty thicket]

but rogue might have its own hidden special liquor

[lethal bobcat]

so of any class, with a Patron specialized in it, it easily sounds like the most unique take on it

a Sorcerer feels weak in it too honestly, but rip the lack of a Patron story to make it fun and unique

WAIT imagine getting scolded when trying to Contact Other Plane

YOU HAVE ONLY SERVED PROCESSED FOODS! THIS IS NOT EDIBLE!

[empty thicket]

depend always how you make it work
The most "cook" class i can think right now are
Wizard (learn recipes "spells" and have a Recipe book)
Fighter, the butcher of the place and a great cook with the pan
Bard, barman, fancy and classy but friendly.
finally the cleric, the sommelier, wines.

[lethal bobcat]

I feel like Wizards wouldn't have a diet unlike students now and there's no way their living quarters had a seperate kitchen

turning on the stove and cleaning plates feel like a waste for someone who studied a lifetime and not quite enough to have experience cooking

[empty thicket]

Imagine a living tavern that is a creature and the party are the owners of it
"Helping the towns and slaying the evil bring clients easier than the marketing"

[empty thicket]

yeah, could be part of the character development
"A clean apron only mean failure for a cook" some sort of wise words or smt

[lethal bobcat]

wasn't there a living or mobile fortress spell in D&D 5e 2014?

[empty thicket]

maybe, idk
I think in 24 there were some stuff around that thing of bastions, towns, etc. etc.

[lethal bobcat]

oh ye, Ebberon has mobile Bastions no?

could easily make a restaurant or even a full Cruise-style Inn

ironically, the niche you'd be fulfilling as some luxury and world travel would make it barely overlap with inns

...

[empty thicket]

what?

sorry i dont get it, half sleep

[lethal bobcat]

mobile Bastion

[empty thicket]

yeah, what about it?

[lethal bobcat]

like a cruise basically

it's basically a living inn

apart from having different customers and different services

[empty thicket]

Its dnd so... you can easily just put a carrion with some horses and it do some sort of Doctor who cabinet magic

[empty thicket]

yeah, that too
The idea would be like that

And the adventurers would follow the things that their manager say (Missions) or just do funny cook stuff

"I need you all to get me this rare ingredient at top of that dragon lair, good luck"

"kill 400 of this giga lethal bunnies, we are short of their meat"

[lethal bobcat]

if I didn't have a week to survive on 8 euro, I'd probably make some DDB VTT Bastion rulings using mobilization rules

[empty thicket]

"Get me a giant chest of preservation, last one broke"

[lethal bobcat]

and do basically what you laid out

[empty thicket]

know about it, most of the time chicken wings are cheap.
Can boil them for a chicken soup
Eat the meat with some rice or just put some seasonings and throw it to the oven with some potatos (Boiled potato fill really well the belly too)

[lethal bobcat]

I'm vegan too and beans should be even cheaper or else I'd rather starve

which I can prove by having done so

[empty thicket]

okey, that its... problematic

still the boiled potato is there, an option

[lethal bobcat]

tho when I was doing really bad, I did live off discounted cakes

[empty thicket]

Boil, spoon the inside and add salt, mix and into the oven,

[lethal bobcat]

a full cake for 1 euro isn't bad if food is food

oh also this is still dnd oops

[empty thicket]

true

collect 1000 potatos.

and 2000 sweet potatos.

[lethal bobcat]

honestly? we could go full WoW and have them collect 500 boar asses

[empty thicket]

An enlarged carrot would fill more than a normal carrot?

[lethal bobcat]

well per the rules, yes

assuming it does have more weight in usable parts

which I'd assume so

[empty thicket]

So slowly using a truffle enlarging it and using layers of it so last more is ethical?
Until what point using magic on food is secure?

[lethal bobcat]

2lbs is a comfortable day for a worker

[lethal bobcat]

ironically, necromancy should be the most ethical

using lifeforce to naturally grow it basically

[empty thicket]

had an idea of a necromancer that use dead bodies for handwork in construction

would pay the party for the kills and depending how they killed the enemy

[lethal bobcat]

that is a different form of necromancy haha

[empty thicket]

na, too problematic to get the source of "lifeforce"

and people wont like when they ask what i use to nutrish my potatos

[lethal bobcat]

technically fertility and growth are necromancy

[empty thicket]

"Yeah, i used the whole army that attacked the town last week"

"Their souls, body, everything, nothing threw"

[lethal bobcat]

conjuration is a second pick for "ethics", both for Goodberry and just what it entails

[empty thicket]

Goodberry would be like the instant noodles//mashed potatos in the kithcen world

[lethal bobcat]

oh and for the army thing, I think you can even reattach the head as a soul is still a whole

fireball victims would however be a bit more useless other than for parts

[empty thicket]

so.... stakes with their heads where i grow up my crops?

[lethal bobcat]

wait I think you misunderstand lifeforce

you can't use another creature's like that

you are using the actual potato's to age them

[lusty mirage]

Why am I colorful

[empty thicket]

ooohhhh

[empty thicket]

something about the light and our eyes thing

its c omplex

[lusty mirage]

Huh

[empty thicket]

wait, Time Ravage teh cheese!!

[lethal bobcat]

the Codex colouring is now part of Discord's role colour options

[lusty mirage]

Huh

[lethal bobcat]

your Jack of All Trades role lol

[limber trail]

In our ways, I like to believe we’re all colourful

[lusty mirage]

Oh

[knotty vine]

I have learned

That if you squeeze a rock hard enough it will start to bleed

[woven flint]

Took you long enough to learn the rock squeezing arts

[knotty vine]

The indomitable human spirit is ever lasting

[vagrant notch]

Does anyone know whats jims magic missile?

[crimson gulch]

That's a spell from thr acquisition Inc book

[vagrant notch]

Ive nevee heard of that book

[crimson gulch]

It's old and not very popular

[lavish flame]

Jim Darkmagic is a Forgotten Realms mage that made his own variant of Magic Missile (notably, requires an attack roll instead of jusy automatically working). That spell is from Acquisition's Incorporated.

[strong wave]

Can you use DND beyond on your phone?

[sleek mist]

I use the app on my phone almost daily, some times I just click it out of habit 🤣

[idle oar]

The site is responsive and can be used by mobile devices (exception are the homebrew creation tools which have not been designed/updated to be mobile friendly).
There's also the official D&DBeyond mobile app that you can get off of the app stores.

[torpid mesa]

Chat, why is your favorite subclass your favorite?

[empty thicket]

A part of me like champion, simple and good
Celestial is a change of peace in a class like warlock, giving it healings
Wild magic is funny

[torpid mesa]

Personally hexblade has everything for me, good flavour, sword, magic, patron, eldritch blast...

[hexed canopy]

This feels slightly awkward to ask but in regards to sharing in #dnd-arts-and-crafts is there a limit or rule on what mediums can be used to make characters? I´m not an artist myself and utilise modded versions of an older, infamous dress-up game for character/design creation.

Also my bad if this isn´t where to ask, I´m assuming this is the servers General..

[empty thicket]

there is not i guess, while you dont use AI or smt like that for building it up

[empty thicket]

hexblade is okey, make it an hybrid and warlock kinda work out with that

[lean wigeon]

what are people's preference here when it comes to movement/positioning
do you guys prefer a grid
range bands
zones
or do you prefer not tracking it at all

[hexed canopy]

Alright, thanks. I´m personally very anti generative AI and the modded content used is entirely man-made.

[empty thicket]

there is tools thath elp a lot

[hexed canopy]

AI overall can indeed help but generative AI, as of its current technology and way of creation, simply does not cater to a safe and legal way to aid or be of help in particularly the creative spaces.

[celest sail]

Undead Warlock!

[empty thicket]

no no, ai nope.

[lapis grove]

Hi hi hi!

[cinder timber]

ai ew

[hexed canopy]

Oh, my mistake, I thought that was the conversation since you replied to my message that was in the context of ai, and the vagueness of your own message (vague to my understanding.) made it unclear if you were talking about man-made content or generated content. I´ll gladly apologise, even if not needed.

[lapis grove]

I like nature and animals and anthro cats fr

[wooden plume]

hi

[lapis grove]

Hey!

[round ice]

hi

[wooden plume]

Hows things

[lapis grove]

Cute pfp

[round ice]

everythings good just spent years playing baldurs gate 3 and im unstoppable

how bout u

[wooden plume]

ty

not good, grandma just fell down the sairs lol

[cinder timber]

im in a 2014 game, and I'm starting to understand the appeal of 2024

[wooden plume]

stairs

[subtle tiger]

oh no!

[round ice]

sorry mightve left a banana peel on the stair

[lapis grove]

I been playing this game called dragon breed it’s so fun

[wooden plume]

... okay lol

[paper portal]

i dont think i ever will lol

[wooden plume]

How do i play as a munk

monk

[cosmic roost]

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[empty thicket]

close combat mobile.
Your role is getting closer, attack and move away.

[wooden plume]

Iv'e tried reading things online but i think it would be more helpful if someone told me

[errant crag]

Nah you really should read the rules of the game

[wooden plume]

oh

[errant crag]

How familiar are you with 5e?

Do you know the basic rules of the system?

[wooden plume]

I know the basic rules

my brother told me to use two great swords

he might be ling tho idk

[errant crag]

Your brother is lying

[wooden plume]

lying

[errant crag]

Or misinformed

[wooden plume]

ahhh

so what can I use as a monk?

or is that not how it works

[subtle tiger]

Fists

[wooden plume]

Bye

[humble cairn]

Check out the monk rules, free to read online: https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/2190880-monk

Just remember that there's a difference between what monks are proficient with and "Monk Weapons."

[errant crag]

Can a great club be a Monk weapon

[glass granite]

Believe so

[errant crag]

Probably only with Dedicated Weapon Tasha option

[paper portal]

all simple weapons are monk weapons i thought

[glass granite]

It’s a simple melee weapon, it can be a monk weapon

[idle oar]

I think it's a simple weapon though

[paper portal]

dedicated weapon doesnt allow a heavy weapon tho

[empty thicket]

you are still better with your unnarmed attacks tho

[glass granite]

Great club ain’t heavy iirc

[empty thicket]

there is like, no real reason to use a weapon

[paper portal]

they arent? thats goofy

[woven flint]

Howdy, folks

[paper portal]

meowdy

[glass granite]

I mean, daggers for some range is not bad

[errant crag]

Oh it isn't heavy is it it's just two handed

[glass granite]

Mhm

[woven flint]

Was gonna answer this but forgot

I've enjoyed Knowledge, Grave and War Clerics lol

[empty thicket]

the only one is a better dice but isnt that good
but monk dont get any at all

for throwing maybe

[wooden plume]

I'm really sorry guys i,ve got tourettes and i lash out sometimes

[woven flint]

Cleric is probably my favorite class overall subclass-wise

[humble cairn]

1. Magic weapons
2. Because the martial arts include weapons forms and people can find those fun and cool as well

[errant crag]

Oh I was thinking of 2014 Monk rules

Which excluded the two handed trait

2014 Monk Weapons couldn't have the two handed property

[wooden plume]

omg im so sorry

my brother thinks hes funny

im so sorry

[idle oar]

Please manage your account or you may end up banned

[wooden plume]

okay.

[paper portal]

ngl i thought it was just all simple weapons maybe i gotta play a monk to refresh my knowledge lol

[errant crag]

I didn't realize that 2024 Monk broadened the monk weapon requirements

[glass granite]

In 2024 it’s simple melee weapons and light martial melee weapons, idk what ur is in 2014

[paper portal]

thats why 2014 sucks 2024 is better /silly

[glass granite]

Tbf 2024 monk is a lot better than 2014 monk

[errant crag]

Aaaaand Great Club doesn't work with GWM

RIP GWMonk

[paper portal]

i love that wotc spent ages trying to stop people from calling it 5.5 and now that name is official we all call it 2024

[glass granite]

It’s the only two handed weapon (barring double bladed scimitar) that is two handed but not heavy if I recall

[woven flint]

Funnily enough
The only difference for Mercy Monk is that Flurry of Healing and Harm now has an amount of charges for uses between long Rests lol

[errant crag]

I hate how hellbent WotC is on making sure I have zero justification for using the Great Club

I wanna use a big club

[woven flint]

Just do it anyway

[paper portal]

yeah dnd balance is like that

[errant crag]

No

[woven flint]

Flavor your Maul as a big club

[glass granite]

Use it in combination with Push, charger, crusher and barbarian’s push to YEET enemies

[errant crag]

That's the only option

[errant crag]

I could just use a Warhammer for a bigger damage die and the same effect

[woven flint]

Send them through a wall!!!!!

I'm gonna be playing a 2024 Vengeance Paladin soon 👁

Two-Weapon Fighting style
Get nasty with it

[glass granite]

Sick

[errant crag]

Guess I could be a Monk with the Great Club and Crusher to be a Push Monk aka Punk

[woven flint]

Punh

[errant crag]

Monsh

[woven flint]

Ponh

Ponk

[glass granite]

Oddly I don’t like using shields with my paladins

[glass granite]

I like this one

[errant crag]

I should make a TWF Paladin but I feel like there's not much there

[woven flint]

I don't like using Shields, but also, it's better to have them at early levels

[errant crag]

I like playing the occasional sword and board barbarian

[woven flint]

Divine Favor will take you a long way with that build tbh

[errant crag]

Oh it would

[woven flint]

It's only an extra 1d4 Radiant damage
But it's 1d4 per hit without concentration

[glass granite]

Don’t they have a level 11 feature that lets them do an extra d8 per hit? That also works well

[errant crag]

That's pretty good actually I'll do that

Sickle and Club with Slasher feat for -20 ft of movement speed on the enemies and also I do pretty good damage

[woven flint]

Then you can slap Hunters Mark on it since they get it on their subclass and you'd be doing 4d6 + 2d4 assuming you always hit from level 3 lol
(At least as a Vengeance Paladin)

[glass granite]

Is that including Nick?

[woven flint]

Yes

And excluding modifiers and TWF modifier additon

[glass granite]

Oh yeah I misinterpreted “from”

[glass granite]

(Thought you meant from level 3+, not at level 3)

[woven flint]

My Paladin might do good ol'
Scimitar and Shortsword
Or
Scimitar and Handaxe

[glass granite]

I’ve done handaxe and dagger

[woven flint]

My vengeance Paladin is a Triton 😎

He's my Rime of the Frostmaiden character

[slender torrent]

Man it's been like 3-4 years since I played DnD I'm very excited to get back into creating characters

[celest sail]

I wanna get back into it once summer starts

[empty thicket]

i want to play like a Dm someday in the future ngl

[humble cairn]

I played one! Although since it was a thrown weapons build as well I could also equip a shield.

Very fun!

[fossil hollow]

I kinda been wanting to do a thrown paladin for a while now thanks to you Ophidimancer lmao

shame i went with a dexadin

[hollow stone]

use javelins

or daggers, those also work

[woven flint]

One of my friends and I came up with a Noble Genies Paladin Tiefling cricus act fellow

[fossil hollow]

dexadin, but daggers do work... i should probably buy some

[hollow stone]

if you want a cheaper option, also darts

same damage, can't melee, but 5CP a piece

and they already quantify in stacks

[fossil hollow]

ooh good catch

[woven flint]

The problem is..
Darts don't count as Melee thrown weapons so you can't smite with them, I don't believed.

[vestal mesa]

Hi there!!

[fossil hollow]

if im smiting with Agave, im smiting at melee

[woven flint]

"Bonus Action, which you take immediately after hitting a target with a Melee weapon or an Unarmed Strike"

Yeah, you can't smite with Darts as they aren't considered melee weapons
So getting a bunch of Darts would be for naught

[fossil hollow]

I did pick up a bow recently

[glass peak]

Hey guys

[vestal mesa]

Is this possible ranger lvl 4 with two weapon fighting n dual wielding fighter a goblin that has hunter mark on them, can i hand crossbow attack dagger nick throw and bonus action throw a dart

[fossil hollow]

Nick is your Light weapon attack

just moved to your Action

[vestal mesa]

Yeah

[fossil hollow]

So unless you have Dual Wielder, no BA attack

[woven flint]

Bows are for cowards.

[vestal mesa]

Yeah dual wilder and twf

[fossil hollow]

Sam is very unforgiving :(

[vestal mesa]

Handcross light attack dagger nick for light what frees my bonus action then dual wielder throw a dart?

No

[woven flint]

Skill issue

[fossil hollow]

Action:

• Handcrossbow
• Dagger (Nick)

BA:

• Dart (Dual Wielder)

Works, just remember you can only switch weapons for each attack you have

[knotty vine]

Necrotic damage, dealt by certain undead and a spell such as chill touch, withers matter and even the soul.
interesting lore

[vestal mesa]

What u mean only switch weapons

[fossil hollow]

You're juggling three weapons there, theres only so many times you can pull out/stow a weapon in a turn

[elfin imp]

Can Artificer Replicated Items be discerned in any way?

[fossil hollow]

No better than any other magic item

[vestal mesa]

My dm is sayin its not worth the effort but all my attack will trigger hunters mark too so mean extra dmg

Im juggling but then throwing them dones this cause a problem

[fossil hollow]

fair nough

[vestal mesa]

Is it not possible?

[fossil hollow]

What?

[fossil hollow]

this works

HM will also apply to all of them yes

And Fury of the Small is once per turn and PB/Day iirc

[vestal mesa]

What about hunter with crossbow expert round 1 BA HM attack crossbow then dagger throw with nick

Then round 2 crossbow crossbow is this better

[fossil hollow]

CBE, HM, and DW are all a BA. You only have one BA

and what about Hunter?

Horde Breaker?

horde breaker isnt inhibited by anything else, just needs more targets within range

[vestal mesa]

Yeah different build soz ranger lvl 4 crossbow expert

[fossil hollow]

CBE also works. Just replace dart with a hand crossbow

[vestal mesa]

Round 1 HM crossbow attack n dagger nick
Round 2 crossbow BA crossbow

[vestal mesa]

What i could do Hcrossbow dagger throw Hcrossbow??

I didnt think this was possible

[fossil hollow]

yes.

[woven flint]

I've decided
That if my Tortle Cleric in Waterdeep dies...

I'm replacing him with a Sahuagin (Flavored as a Kuo-Toa) Sea Druid

[fossil hollow]

CBE ignores Loading, extra hand for Ammunition, and its BA attack is not limited in any capacity except for needins a hand crossbow

[vagrant notch]

Does momentary stasis from chronurgy school only can affect large, medium and small creature?

[fossil hollow]

Oh shit, wait, do they not have the BA attack anymore?

damn, ignore

[vestal mesa]

But if i use the dagger throw with nick that doesnt

Yeah i wasnt sure

[fossil hollow]

Yeah, no it wont work, sorry

I genuinely thought the BA attack stayed

[vestal mesa]

So does that mean the ranger twf with dw can do handcrossbow dagger throw BA dart throw ?

[lavish flame]

just threw up trying to understand "ranger twf with dw"

[vestal mesa]

Hahah soz

Ranger with two weapon fighting n dual wielder

[umbral girder]

I have finished another level 20 campaign

A mix of both Princes of the Apocolypse and Tyranny of Dragons. A lot of fun!

[woven flint]

You had an aneurysm, nose bleed and vomited, huh?

[lavish flame]

sure yeah, in that order too

[torpid mesa]

What do y'all think about melee warlock in 2024?

[valid vapor]

I think i mess things up.

Today i instakill a character from one of my players and he was truly mad for that

his char really piss off an NPC that is the equivalent to a Level 25 Character....

Should I have told him to atleast roll for initiative?

Just K.O his char?

I'm pretty new at being a Long campain DM

[odd valley]

uh

[odd valley]

could you elaborate on what specifically happened

[kind briar]

hello, anyone whi wants to waste thir time to teach me haha. Where should i start

[blissful ibex]

no combat outside of initiative at the very least

[glass granite]

Read up on the first few chapters of the free basic rules on #learn-to-play , and feel free to ask any questions you might have

[umbral girder]

Better in damage but needs more survivability options

[glass granite]

#dnd-newcomers should be the place to ask around

[blissful ibex]

Read the information in 'Playing the Game'; Then follow allong with 'Creating A Character' using either the dnd beyond character builder or roll20 to make a practice character before heading over to #character-discussion to have it looked over.

Feel free to ask any questions you still have in #dnd-newcomers or check out the resources in #learn-to-play ; There's a short interactive module you can play to get a feel for the game, or you could seek out gameplay videos online. Once you're ready to play, head over to #find-a-game, one of the many LFG discord servers, r/lfg on reddit, or your friendly local game store. If you'd like a printable character sheet, those can be found here.

soz, thought I was in the DM channel for a sec q_q

[kind briar]

tks everybodu

[lavish flame]

Generally instant death isn't something people would like. Players like having some fighting chance at survival, even if that just means "run away" instead of fighting.

Overall people don't like having their characters killed for any reason, including justifiable ones. Actions have consequences, but instant death is not recommended to be a consequence of play.

[knotty vine]

I was gonna buy Heliana & Ryoko's Guide to Mythozoology but now I gotta wait until 11/2027

[valid vapor]

Lets see this sesion was a chill one they recently reach the level 6 and get a reasonable amount of gold to expend, they walk around the city buying stuff and roleplayig until the go to a cafeteria that was close to the main adventurers guild so must of all the adventurers go to that place to relax

this player char was a chaotic neutral wood elf bard that tends to mock anothers NPCs,

So they enter this cafeteria and i discribe the strongest adventurers who were there at that moment (through the waitress)

An Half ork Barbarian Grolk

A Genasi bard igni

And Yeka the drow sorceres (the killer)

I discribe her like, A dangerous and very aggressive drow, but one who tends to ignore those weaker than herself.

[knotty vine]

GTA 6 before RGtM

[scenic zinc]

Were there no rolls involved at all?

[rough basalt]

One shot done.

Tired and got to use my first dungeon alchemist map

[scenic zinc]

Level 6, I can see them easily getting PWK'd for mouthing off to the wrong kind of person

[rough basalt]

Now I can sit in bed the rest of the weekend, and worry about my games next week on the day they happen.

[scenic zinc]

But that doesn't sound like what happened

[valid vapor]

Was a Finger of death....

[scenic zinc]

Kinda insane to have the drow outright murder someone in public though. The whole city should be after her for that.

[valid vapor]

I mean she is one of the top 5 stronges adventurers from the guild so....

[scenic zinc]

So?

The guild should turn on her

She murdered someone in cold blood in public

[valid vapor]

But we finish the sesion there

[scenic zinc]

Just like if a PC did something insane like that in public there should be consequences for extremely bad decisions made by NPCs

You can always have someone from the guild resurrect the currently dead PC

It doesn't seem like a real problem. The drow should be punished for committing a murder in public.

[valid vapor]

And to make the long stroy short,

He wanted to speak to the drow and mock her a littel, she make him go away but he ask to roll to makes his mocks to really hurt her and piss her off

i told him to roll, was really high rolls, each time she told him to go away, he mocks her again, and with the last roll she just use finger of dead on him and teleports away

And the party of course try to make him stop but he didint

[scenic zinc]

I'm not sure what you're looking for in response.

#dnd-discussion message

Are you looking for someone to tell you you did nothing wrong?

You started by saying you think you messed up.

I don't think you messed up... but I do think you should at the very least enforce negative consequences on the drow.

You could also resurrect the currently dead PC with someone from the guild. That is less important to do, in my opinion... but probably a good idea.

[rough basalt]

Ye if someone doesn't get punished for murder in broad daylight then that can set a very bad precedent for your game.

[lavish flame]

One could spin this into a new rival/villain character. They dumped a killing spell on a lower level member of the guild. The guild should then excommunicate this person, do their best to bring back the PC, but this deposed guild member is now bitter towards the PC for "getting them kicked out"

[valid vapor]

I was looking for advice about what to do next

[meager fractal]

How is everyone's dnd going so far this weekend

[hot reef]

Depending on what the PC did and how drow are treated in this world, it’s plausible that she doesn’t get punished

[tardy gorge]

Guys dose anyone have dnd thing I can join

[paper portal]

#find-a-game

[valid vapor]

Will be a bit hard to manage because she is one of the top 5 form guild, but i think in something

[vast saddle]

I really think my character should be updated to be Brock Lesnar, seeing how bad my booking is on West Marches

Pure Strength, Pure Constitution, nothing else matters

[empty thicket]

wisdom?

[harsh dew]

Remind me not to use Reddit to look for groups

[vast saddle]

I don't think Brock Lesnar as a character in the ring has it

[empty thicket]

damn

[meager fractal]

Brock Lesnar would be like a level 3 fighter in dnd lok

[empty thicket]

yeah, normally use this kind of sites or some less... chaotic platforms or some communities

[north vine]

Are there pbp games in find a game?

[paper portal]

should be some

[empty thicket]

check for yourself, i doubt because is a rare thing that. But like always im open to being wrong so

[meager fractal]

Sometimes. But they fill up quickly

[cinder timber]

Do wizards have good aoe spells?

[woven flint]

... Yes

[feral fulcrum]

They have the majority of spells available to them, so, yeah.

[cinder timber]

Im just making sure

[agile jungle]

hi dnd discussion

i joined a 5.5e campaign my Friendly Local Game Store™ is hosting, i think called made in abyss or something.

i selected paladin as my starting class since it seemed our table didn't have a tank and we needed one.

would ilmater make sense to be his deity of choice, or should i stick with something more classic like tyr

[feral fulcrum]

Made In Abyss...if that's got any connection to the anime, that's almost assuredly going to be a bad time.

[agile jungle]

it's from a book

[feral fulcrum]

Likely a Homebrew one based on the Anime.

[agile jungle]

all i recall is that abyss is in the title

[slim lark]

out of the abyss?

[agile jungle]

ah i think so

so maybe perhaps adapted to 5.5 by our dm

[slim lark]

thats forgotten realms, so either of those dieties would work

depends on what you want your paladin to stand for

[feral fulcrum]

Your deity of choice doesn't really have any impact as a Paladin (You don't even need one), outside of fluff narrative.

[slim lark]

tyr is more justice and retribution, ilmater is more self sacrifice

[feral fulcrum]

So pick whatever you feel comfortable roleplaying.

[slim lark]

but its all thematic

[agile jungle]

oh i thought channeling divinity was a class feature like cleric

[slim lark]

channel divinity is determined by your oath

[feral fulcrum]

Your powers are entirely drawn from your oath, no gods need be involved.

You're not a Cleric who draws directly from a God.

The names of features are just that, names.

[slim lark]

even clerics though dont have mechanics from which god they worship

dnd is designed to be pretty modular, so your dm can introduce any god they want without having to create a ton of homebrew mechanics

[odd valley]

you’re talking about out of the abyss

[feral fulcrum]

Yeah pretty much the only restrictions clerics even have is their God does have to make sense for their subclass

[viral plover]

👍

[feral fulcrum]

You're not playing a Peace Cleric following Bhall, god of "BLOOD MAKES THE GRASS GROW! KILL KILL KILL!"

[slim lark]

yeah and even then thats just on the roleplay side, mechanically a peace cleric could worship bhall, it just wouldnt make sense in universe

i suppose you could work out some convoluted backstory on why to make it make sense if you were really committed

[feral fulcrum]

But your DM is more then likely to backhand you and say "NO."

[slim lark]

absolutely

they definitely should because it shows you dont care about the story which is a red flag imo

[odd valley]

peace can only be attained without the meddling of sapient species, and as such the fastest route to doing so is mass murder or something along those lines

would definitely make for an evil character though

now life domain… that’s gonna be an even further stretch

[slim lark]

ultron over here

[slim lark]

funnily enough my life domain cleric is kinda going through something like that right now

picked up a cursed sword and became a vampire

which was not at all the direction i thought hed go in, just kinda happened

[feral fulcrum]

It's kind of funny when core character traits spring from being entirely unplanned.

[slim lark]

gonna let the corruption arc simmer for a few more levels before trying to fix it

[feral fulcrum]

Like my Fairy (now Winged Centaur) having absolutely no issues with eating people, because Some Fey are just like that.

[slim lark]

very fun from a story perspective

[north vine]

Life can only lead tp eventual death, so the best thing you can do to someone is to kill them

[slim lark]

your death will bring new life in the vegetation that grows from you

therefor i must kill you to create that life

[feral fulcrum]

Fairy "We can just eat them." Dragon "I agree, eat them." Dragon Knight annoyed "Keep that as plan C."

[slim lark]

theres always one smh my head

[buoyant frost]

New IRL Quest added: Run a DnD campaign that is literally just Minecraft's progressions disguised as some Fearun adventure, see how far you can get before the players realize.

[agile jungle]

well like

[paper portal]

ngl i still want someone to make a minecraft mod for it to work as a vtt

[agile jungle]

yes i don't necessarily care about the story but it's not in a troll i hate games kind of way

[paper portal]

imagine just being able to build battlemaps in minecraft it would be so peak

[feral fulcrum]

Something i suspect will probably blow up in your face.

[agile jungle]

it's more i was added last minute and was integrated in a very haphazard way

so i haven't had the time to get invested

but i want to make sure i'm doing my part

[feral fulcrum]

Because things based on cheap laughs and misdirection are rarely something people enjoy.

[paper portal]

ah like beds from minecraft

[slim lark]

i really want to run a short campaign set in the alien universe but not tell my players its alien themed

i feel like theres design space there to make it really scary and very memorable

[feral fulcrum]

Also likely to go poorly, but for different reasons.

[agile jungle]

some players really hone in on the crafting and design process but i'm paying for my seat at the table more to have the social experience

[feral fulcrum]

At least, if you're actually trying to keep it 'modern'

D&D doesn't do Technology well, if at all. And their singular attempt at it in 5E was...pathetic really.

[slim lark]

flavour is free

[feral fulcrum]

"Behold the cantrip of...uh, flip lightswitch?"

[odd valley]

it’s either that or giant laser guns

[slim lark]

id probably just tell them its sci fi, and to reflavour everything they have as technology, not use the terrible ua stuff

[odd valley]

no in between

[fiery nimbus]

To be completely honest I wish they just sticked to magic and magitech

[bronze stone]

I have a question

[glass granite]

I have an answer

[bronze stone]

If I'm a Warforged, and become a painter, is it technically AI art?

[glass granite]

Ummmm

[bronze stone]

and, if a person builds a sweatshop of warforged artists, does it count as a data centre

[tidal bough]

Slightly different when theres sentient intelligence i believe

[bronze stone]

how do you know?

[glass granite]

Warforged are partially organic and are canonically sentient, so I’d say no…

[tidal bough]

Canon

[glass granite]

This I’m less sure about

[bronze stone]

Oh, then it's just normal servitude, that's bad

anyway how fun are life domain clerics?

[frail wasp]

8.5 fun

[tidal bough]

It depends on what you enjoy doing and how badly your party makes decisions, ive enjoyed it so far

[glass granite]

I like them, I know some people who consider them boring, but I like them

[tidal bough]

You are playing a fully different game to everyone else though

Everyone is playing damage etc. And youre playing full util support running and positioning

Granted you can setup as pseudo tank as well

[bronze stone]

ehhh?

[tidal bough]

Moth life cleric with decent dexterity and a shield goes hard

[bronze stone]

I see

[tidal bough]

Not crazy strong but rhe flavor is nice

[agile jungle]

oh if it doesn't matter and it's not really required

[bronze stone]

Then IS there a good cleric?

[agile jungle]

then i suppose i won't bother

[ripe nimbus]

clerics are great if you like being good at everything bc they’re good at everything. except skills, i guess.

they, moreso than bards, are a great jack of all trades class

[bronze stone]

Isn't that all the things?

[paper portal]

wdym by good

[ripe nimbus]

they get good ac/defense, good damage, and can heal like nobody’s business

[onyx haven]

Arcana Cleric, best Cleric. 😄

[frail wasp]

clerics stand against the darkness

[paper portal]

from an optimized perspective yeah clerics are one of the better classes

[bronze stone]

A cleric that is an active class, I spose

[bronze stone]

I see

[paper portal]

look up the spell spirit guardians :3

[onyx haven]

They're very maleable. Like, you don't have to be the healbot.

[ripe nimbus]

i mean you need strength to get the highest AC which makes them a bit MAD

[bronze stone]

isn't that just aoe hell?

[glass granite]

Light cleric is also more active.

[frail wasp]

whats aoe hell

[paper portal]

realistically you just go dex though which is very close and much easier

[onyx haven]

Just get you 14 dex, some scale mail, and a shield. You'll be fine 👍

[agile jungle]

i took all healing spells as paladin since our cleric wasn't life domain

[glass granite]

Fireball will do that

[agile jungle]

[ripe nimbus]

alas most people don’t use encumbrance

[paper portal]

healing isnt as necessary as people think

[bronze stone]

I kinda wanna play cleric or sorcerer, something that pairs well with being a teifling

tiefling?

[frail wasp]

there are a lot of challenges that amount to "you're gonna have a bad time. oh, you have a cleric? nevermind"

[feral fulcrum]

Blame WOTC leaving alot of the weights on things up to the DM.

[bronze stone]

tailbling

[ripe nimbus]

?

most weights are p well defined

[onyx haven]

Have you considered Spellfire sorcery?

[ripe nimbus]

my current AL character is a tiefling cleric

[onyx haven]

This is a sorceror that heals 😄

[paper portal]

isnt that ua or did they make it a thing now in 5.5

[ripe nimbus]

tiefling grave cleric specifically, super goth it’s cool

[ripe nimbus]

it’s in the fr book

[onyx haven]

It was in the last book. It's live content

[bronze trellis]

is posting pictures not alowed here?!?!

[errant crag]

Circle Magic is also in the Heroes of Faerun book

It seems really fun I might start implementing it

[paper portal]

wow coolio

[feral fulcrum]

As I recall, basically every Magic Item, various bits of loot, don't have a suggested weight. Which means the second you get away from normal adventuring items, the DM now has to even more work, and then badger the players to track it properly, among whatever else. And it become more of a hinderance, then anything that adds to anyones experience.

So that's why basically nobody bothers with it

[ripe nimbus]

as a dm i enforce encumbrance and i’ve never yet run into problems with having ill defined weights.

most magic items are variants on things with defined weights

[frail wasp]

we interrupt this game to give everyone math homework: 10 artworks of various weights

oh you just gave it all to the barbarian ... okay

[errant crag]

You're already doing math any time you're rolling dice

And adding modifiers

[warm gazelle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/dyB_G-evVzI?si=4af3GmojE5S7Zn6y

[errant crag]

And subtracting damage from your HP

[feral fulcrum]

"how much do eight rubies, six amathysts, five chunks of diamond, and one raw potato weigh dm?"

[fiery veldt]

Wait. This group is for dnd online...right?

[feral fulcrum]

This is the Offfical discord for D&D in general

[ripe nimbus]

1.38lb

[bronze stone]

Huh?

[errant crag]

I was gonna have things without a listen weight just not have weight unless they are a version of something with a defined weight.

[bronze stone]

AL?

[fiery veldt]

Oh okay lol. Cuz i play online. And i need some help if anyone's got some spare time to help me out?

[onyx haven]

Spellfire sorcerors get access to healing spells as well. So you can both be dealing damage and healing the party

[ripe nimbus]

adventurers league

[bronze trellis]

most of the math your talking about is far more simpler than doing the math of how much someone can carry and how much stuff weighs. You can easly end up with a grocery list of different weights unless you simplify. Its why i prefer slot based inventory.

[bronze stone]

and that is?

[ripe nimbus]

“a big potato is about a pound and gems are coinweight”

[bronze stone]

I see, what's the subclass bonuses?

[feral fulcrum]

Aventurers League, basically Official WOTC run, entirely Rules As Written play.

With it's own adventures not found in books IIRC

[bronze stone]

Wotc and iirc?

[ripe nimbus]

i agree that’s not precisely defined but i don’t find it burdensome to come up with that number (also i think there’s some line somewhere abt gems being coinweight but i can’t remember where i saw it…)

(i could be stealing that from b/x)

[errant crag]

There's also just the fact that not all tables are bothered by a little extra bookkeeping

[feral fulcrum]

Wizards of the Coast, and If I recall correctly.

[errant crag]

Some players are completely fine with it

[ripe nimbus]

simplifying is fine

[errant crag]

Some players want it

[feral fulcrum]

IE, The people who own DND, and "If I'm remembering my crap right. :V

[frail wasp]

i'm down for simple encumbrance

[ripe nimbus]

i just like some system that makes people think about what they choose to take and forces tradeoffs

[errant crag]

Yeah sometimes I like stuff like that and sometimes my players like stuff like that

[frail wasp]

the way load works in blades in the dark is fantastic, would love some of that for D&D

[ripe nimbus]

noooo i do not like that

[onyx haven]

lvl 3: When you use a sorc point, you can either burn someone or heal someone for a 1d4.
lvl 6: Successfully counter spelling someone gives you back sorc points
lvl 14: Improves the lvl 3 features
lvl 18: You transform and get stuff like flight and evasion

[errant crag]

I'm not familiar with that

[ripe nimbus]

bitd is a story game and d&d is an adventure game and the difference between how each handles inventory is an important reflection of that

and i like that d&d is a straight adventure game, i do not want story game mechanics in it

[frail wasp]

you decide if your character is being subtle or is being a walking arsenal, and you get to make tradeoffs of how big the weapons and how heavy the armor you bring (and how much other fun equipment you can carry) based off of that

[ripe nimbus]

yes, but you get to decide it after the fact retroactively

[frail wasp]

bringing heavy rope could mean bringing one less weapon

[errant crag]

I've been playing Cyberpunk Red with my group and that system makes things like downtime, paying for your lifestyle, and stuff like that inherently more important in a way that it can't really be handwaved compared to how stuff like that is often (and understandably) looked over in D&D

[ripe nimbus]

if you decide it beforehand that’s just ordinary encumbrance

[errant crag]

Downtime is one of the only ways to actually heal lost HP in that system

Most direct heals are once per day

And you need to have a place that your character lives at and sleeps, and it's important what you get and how much your character can and is willing to pay for that because resting is the only way to heal and you need to rest and store your stuff safely. Your place can get broken into more easily if you cheap out.

And none of that feels boring or book keepy it's just a part of the system.

[ripe nimbus]

i would love more emphasis on downtime in d&d

in 5e specifically

[errant crag]

I don't think D&D could get away with it being such a required thing like CBPR does

[ripe nimbus]

it was really important in older editions

[frail wasp]

wouldnt complain about that

[ripe nimbus]

it absolutely could, it was as required in 2e for example

[frail wasp]

i don't believe it was any different in older editions than it is now

[ripe nimbus]

in 2e you healed, what was it, 1hp a day of downtime?

[frail wasp]

yeah but nobody relied on that healing to get through a campaign

[ripe nimbus]

and wizards learning new spells required weeks of downtime to do so

[frail wasp]

in old editions, your healing came from the cleric spending all of their spell slots healing you

[fiery nimbus]

no, depending on the version of the game
In 5e? nah they are humanoids
In 5.5e? Its machine art not AI

[ripe nimbus]

the assumption in the ad&d dmg was also that, aside from downtime in session, you also had downtime between sessions that progressed in realtime too

[errant crag]

Don't Warforged have souls

[onyx haven]

Yes

[feral fulcrum]

They do indeed have souls.

[ripe nimbus]

like i think ad&d is very downtime oriented, similar to cyberpunk

[frail wasp]

i've read that in the dmg, but tbh i never ever saw it when I played 2e >_>

[ripe nimbus]

stuff like living expenses is kinda a relic of that

[fiery nimbus]

oh big whop i know a skeleton with like 6 of them in different jars

[feral fulcrum]

I know that 5E treats it like an afterthought that's kind of just tacked on.

[ripe nimbus]

i mean coming back to 5e after playing other rpgs (world of darkness mainly recently) was a bit funny because in other rpgs ive been playing ive always been doing realtime-downtime as a habit picked up from a previous gm and a 5e campaign Just Does Not Work with that

[feral fulcrum]

5.5 has acknlowedged it more, with things like Bastions, but it's still...pretty crap.

[errant crag]

I had my Ghosts of Saltmarsh players get a week of downtime or two after every major adventure in the book, and they really liked it and it started to be something that they looked forward to because they usually came out of it with something crafted or having spent the downtime doing something else rewarding

[frail wasp]

long rests are a bit blunt of a solution yeah

[ripe nimbus]

even the most common houserule fixes for long rest ease (safe haven/gritty realism) break down if you use realtime downtime

[feral fulcrum]

5E prefers and encourages just a non-stop "Into one fire after the other, jumping from one proverbial pan to the next."

[fiery nimbus]

I like downtime but it really puts the pressure on players and DM since there are barely any book stuffs to use

[ripe nimbus]

yeah and that’s really cool

but in AL almost everyone just uses it to level up

[ripe nimbus]

there’s a lot, tbh, between the 14 phb, 14 dmg, and xge

but freeform DTAs aren’t that hard to manage

[frail wasp]

i mean i think realtime downtime would break down at my tables because sometimes we end on cliffhangers and like, it just doesn't make sense that we get a week of rest in the middle of a fight

[ripe nimbus]

oh sure it’s not a rigid always thing

[frail wasp]

but like, daggerheart at least has far more interesting rest mechanics than 5e, and I think doing even better than daggerheart is perfectly achievable

[ripe nimbus]

just an “unless we are forced not to”

[fiery nimbus]

and yet they still feel undercooked

In what world does Aristocratic dinner cost only 6 SP

I WANT REAL SPICES NOT SOME PRESTODIGITATION

[frail wasp]

at the very least, giving the players choices as to what their resting accomplishes instead of just hitting the reset button, and giving them downsides to over resting, would go a long way

[feral fulcrum]

prestidigitates over your food

[ripe nimbus]

yeaaah resting is 5e’s biggest mechanical flaw i think

[fiery nimbus]

You ruined this perfectly fine cut of meat

[ripe nimbus]

it simply restricts the kinds of stories and games you can run too much

[feral fulcrum]

And their alternative rests are worse

[fiery nimbus]

Btw i do wonder, do wizards changing the taste of the food with prestodigitation sometimes mess up?

[fiery nimbus]

I don't know, i kind of like gritty realism resting with a week long rest

[feral fulcrum]

"Behold, a week for a Long Rest! Now no progress gets made, ever!"

[fiery nimbus]

It's about the journey not the destination

[ripe nimbus]

i don’t think a week long long rest means no progress gets made

we were just talking abt how we wanted the game to emphasize downtime more!

[feral fulcrum]

Ah yes the journery of "Pray to god nothing intterupts the Long Rest over the week and resets it."

[fiery nimbus]

well, players do like resting a lot
you have to balance your entire game against this

[fiery nimbus]

what do you mean Pray to god, you have a DM at the table...

[feral fulcrum]

It's a turn of phrase and you know it.

[ripe nimbus]

if you run gritty realism resting and never give your players uninterrupted downtime thats on you tbh

[fiery nimbus]

just make your players rest in the safe lodging
roadside inn, a city, a small town. Staying with a farmer family

[ripe nimbus]

you shouldn’t be rolling random encounters while players are just recuperating in a city!

that’s for wilderness and dungeons

[fiery nimbus]

also you can let them use the resting period for down time

[errant crag]

My players only get downtime if they're back at town safely

The story of that game is also able to be put at a pace that you as the DM want

So I can have there be a week before the next major thing actually starts

Without it really messing with anything

Some games' stories have much more urgency though where you may not be able to get away with that

[fiery nimbus]

yes you will roll your eyes if i mention it
but LOTR was as urgent as it gets and the adventure still took like 20 years

[ripe nimbus]

honestly i think the best houserule for resting in 5e might, in the end, be “you can long rest when I SAY you can long rest!”

[frail wasp]

only if the DM knows what their doing though

[ripe nimbus]

sure yeah

[bronze stone]

The cog people have souls?

[frail wasp]

dont want the party being like "we only died because the DM was too stingy with long rests :("

[errant crag]

At my table it's on my players to discern if they are safe enough to long rest and decide if they want to long rest

If they don't have food then they can't, and if I think they're somewhere dangerous enough they will probably get interrupted

[ripe nimbus]

it’s about controlling pacing too, sometimes it makes sense in the narrative for there to be the frequent opportunity to sleep in a safe location and yet that would be awful for game balance and pacing using standard long rest rules

[fiery nimbus]

I did notice my DM was really unwilling in trying to kill us so i started daring them to

[ripe nimbus]

the existing SR/LR rules, or even modifications like safe haven or gritty realism, limit the kinds of pacings you can have a lot

[errant crag]

I was at a table like that for a very long time

My DM would never endanger us and would actively bend reality to rescue us

And it was pretty uncool

Nobody at the table liked it

[fiery nimbus]

I love when things go south

[ripe nimbus]

i downed three players, one of whom died, the session before last…

[errant crag]

"Aw man none of you guys picked a Cleric or a Druid? Better watch out!"
There's a reason none of us picked a support caster, brother

[ripe nimbus]

the survivors fled and got a ton of hirelings and had a much easier time last session

[fiery nimbus]

and what about their player characters?

[ripe nimbus]

oh they’re fine

full health

[fiery nimbus]

thank god, nothing of value was lost

[fiery nimbus]

also i think in this context the hirelings are called police officers

[errant crag]

My players are kinda getting their butt kicked in the Welcome to the Hellfire Club starter set

[ripe nimbus]

ohhhhh that explains the bisexual mood lighting

[vagrant notch]

Can i use my bonus action to cast a misty step and then after i cast it am i still can to move for another 30ft?

[ripe nimbus]

yes

[errant crag]

If you still have movement speed yes

[fiery nimbus]

bisexual mood sirens too

[ripe nimbus]

teleportation doesn’t use your movement

[errant crag]

Misty step doesn't consume movement speed

You could even

[fiery nimbus]

unless it specifically does

[errant crag]

Walk 15 feet, misty step, and walk another 15 feet

[fiery nimbus]

Misty step doesn't consume your movement so you can

there is at least one teleportation that does consume your movement im aware of

[feral fulcrum]

I don't recall any teleport that consumes movement.

[vagrant notch]

Is it wise to have both absorb elements and shield?

[errant crag]

I wouldn't

[feral fulcrum]

Yes.

[vagrant notch]

Which one do u prefer

[past blaze]

saves don't care about AC

[errant crag]

But it wouldn't hurt by any means

They're both good and worth taking

[feral fulcrum]

There's absolutely no downside to picking up both.

[errant crag]

Silvery Barbs

[ripe nimbus]

i dont have strixhaven so that spell cant hurt me

[feral fulcrum]

The most frequently banned spell?

[ripe nimbus]

that and not shield?

[errant crag]

I've actually only taken it once

And only ended up using it like 3-4 times from level 3 to 6

[fiery nimbus]

Portal Jump. On your turn, you can spend an amount of movement equal to half your Speed (round down) to teleport to an unoccupied space you can see within 10 feet of yourself or within 5 feet of a creature that is within 30 feet of you and holding one of your Adventurer’s Atlas maps. You can’t use this benefit if your Speed is 0.

Its a cartographer arteficer feature

[errant crag]

That's what it was the Cartographer

I need to play one of those

[feral fulcrum]

Weird

[fiery nimbus]

I love how it consumes half of your movement to telport 10 ft

[ripe nimbus]

half your speed (round down)
so eg 17' of movement if your speed is 35'?

still restrictive on a grid

[vagrant notch]

Currently im using 4 level 1 spells that is silvery barbs, tasha hideous laughter, shield and absorb elemnts am i should to have that much of level 1 spells?

[errant crag]

I can see the value in that

[errant crag]

You have too many reaction spells

[fiery nimbus]

better than disengage i guess

[errant crag]

You don't need all three of those I'd say

[errant crag]

It also doesn't seem to require components of any sort

Just eyesight and fwoom

[vagrant notch]

I couldn't find any level 1 spells thats better than them

[errant crag]

Magic Missile is good

[feral fulcrum]

Class features don't really do components?

[vagrant notch]

But the damage is negligible, im considering taking jims magic missile lul

[feral fulcrum]

They're not spells.

[errant crag]

Yeah I know

[fiery nimbus]

because its a feature not a spell

[ripe nimbus]

magic missile’s damage isn’t negligible

[errant crag]

But it also doesn't say that you need to be holding your artificer tools like would be reasonable for an artificer feature

[ripe nimbus]

also, magic missile is an autohit with no save

[feral fulcrum]

I think the closet you get to compents in features is something like Rune Knight, which requires you to inscribe runes into Items

[ripe nimbus]

with a damage type that’s almost never resisted

[errant crag]

It's the best damage type in the game and it's guaranteed to hit

[feral fulcrum]

Unless they too, have Shield

[errant crag]

The only way they can prevent getting hit with it is the shield spell or counterspelling it

[ripe nimbus]

dpr wise it’s one of the best 1st level spells

[errant crag]

Yeah I was typing brother

[ripe nimbus]

shakes fist shieeeld!

[feral fulcrum]

9th Level Magic Missile versus Lvl 1 Wizard

[ripe nimbus]

wizards should be squishy dangnabbit

[late quest]

I had a question about DMing...

What is concidered better Foundry or Roll20? I want to get into DMing but dont know what pathway to go down lol

[fiery nimbus]

just throw in 2-3 low level Magic missiles before committing

[feral fulcrum]

Foundry is definitely better then Roll20, but more complex

[ripe nimbus]

let me lure you onto the side of pen and paper…

[feral fulcrum]

But infinitely more capable if you put the work into it

[feral fulcrum]

Kind of sucks to do when not in person 😛

[ripe nimbus]

simply play in person

[feral fulcrum]

No thanks.

[ripe nimbus]

yes i know there’s good reasons why someone might not but i genuinely do prefer it and will recommend it over online play, ive just never really enjoyed online play ever

and if you can i really do recommend like roping your friends and family into it for a good ol pnp game

[hot gate]

I enjoy both for separate reasons, though I've tended to lean more towards in-person recently.

[vagrant notch]

Is it wise to make my warlock to only have 5 int on the starts of the game and then putting all of the remaining ability points into charisma

[hot gate]

It might be worth noting that if you're following the rules, distributing points doesn't really work that way. For example, lowest you can put a score is 8. Highest is 15.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/creating-a-character#GenerateYourScores

[fiery nimbus]

no

[bronze stone]

I feel the sudden urge to shovel mouthfuls of gravel into my body, is there a creature that does this?

[limber trail]

…huh

[hot gate]

Xorns?

[ripe nimbus]

a pica-chu

[bronze stone]

nah, this urge feels more rock lizard than cave abomination, you know?

[cinder timber]

U guys have any tips for improving my rp as a PC?

[merry tulip]

One day, I opened my character sheet (digital) I looked through my stuff and for some reason I got all meta magic options, me and my dm never fixed it so im just rolling around with the all meta magic even though i never use it

[brisk wigeon]

could i argue that purify food and water would work on acid?

to neutralize it?

[crystal star]

:S I wouldnt

"You remove poison and rot from nonmagical food and drink in a 5-foot-radius Sphere centered on a point within range."

its neither poison, nor rot, after all

(2014 version) "All nonmagical food and drink within a 5-foot-radius sphere centered on a point of your choice within range is purified and rendered free of poison and disease." same kind of deal

[vagrant notch]

Does anyone have a premade dnd world map that can be use? Or anyone know a website to get one for free?

[hot gate]

Forgotten Realms has a bunch of maps you can find online. It's a large setting

But if you search world maps as a broader concept, you'll find no shortage

[merry tulip]

[steady chasm]

Ngl I love how the Dr. Drolhins dictionary of dinosaurs got added. Makes me hope Paleo games other book gets added

[feral fulcrum]

If you're doing your homebrew setting, you'd be better off, and likely enjoy making your own world map.

It's not even that hard with certain programs.

World Anvil is quite easy to work with, as an example.

[cedar bane]

theres plenty of free programs

inkarnate or azgaars can be good for making world maps. Personally i used nortlantis which is a great free program for making world maps

for battlemaps, dunegon scrawl or inkarnate are good free options. Canvas of kings is a good paid option if youre willing

also at the end of the day, simply using paint or having a rough sketch works more than enough, it also allows you to rely more on descriptions than images

[north vine]

I am getting kinda sick of some russian players, i recently heard the question "can you use action surge as a reaction?"

[cedar bane]

i dont see what that has to do with russian players specifically? i get a language barrier can be a tad annoying but just explain it

"no, its at any time on your turn"

[north vine]

I live in Russia

[hot gate]

It still just sounds like new players. They're the same everywhere.

[north vine]

And there surprisingly aew a lot of posers who didn't even read a book

[cedar bane]

yeah thats worldwide

[hot gate]

Posers? So you mean it's like an attitude problem? "Confidently wrong" and such?

[limber trail]

An approach that might help is that you tell them to check the wording of the ability and tell you. It encourages them to be proactive - if they’re gonna need to check the ability anyways, might as well do it before

[north vine]

Yet try to devise their own homebrews, make builds and talk about the game like they have been playing since Gary Gygax released the first dnd in 1970 something

[north vine]

Yea

[hot gate]

They could have well played D&D for a long time and still not know the most current rules. After all, we are in 5e/5.5e

That is not to say it's not a good idea to read up and admit that you aren't up to date.

[north vine]

Also ppl here like the method of getting into it by not reading any rulebook, joining sessions and learning rules as dm explains to them

[cedar bane]

a lot of people hear about the game and just want to play it without reading hundreds of pages of rules, which granted they should read the rules but i cant blame them

[glass granite]

The people in #dnd-newcomers regularly suggest otherwise, but unfortunately it’s quite common

[glass granite]

Doesn’t help that it can get overwhelming quick

[north vine]

I saw someone trying to advertise their game without classes, without magic, without levels and with only accesible race being human

And i saw few of posers who were in the chat eith my friends trying to deadass defend it like it was completely fine

[glass granite]

-# side not, hell yeah Qingque pfp

[north vine]

Like, why use dnd atp

[north vine]

Put it nearly the days after hsr released and didn't chamge ever since

[cedar bane]

its the most popular option, so people default to it and change it before looling at other systems

[glass granite]

Many people are more familiar with the term “dnd” than “TTRPG”

[north vine]

I kinda want to start a revolution now because of it, honestly

[cedar bane]

many have been trying

[north vine]

I'm built different trust, i am supreme and the coolest strongest and... Idunno, i am not sure how do i act as overconfident person, that's hard

[cedar bane]

its easy enough, just say it with enough certainty

[vagrant notch]

Got it, do u know how to print a world map without being blurry?

[cedar bane]

physically print? no clue

maybe try making it a pdf and then printing that?

or porting it to paint or something

[crystal star]

pathfinder tried, daggerheart tried/is trying, cosmere tried, etce tecetcetcetcetcetcetcetc. Im pretty sure if D&D as a game died and stopped being printed, people would still refer to TTRPGs as D&D

[north vine]

Just destroy all ttrpgs atp

[crystal star]

hmm you may be on to something there

[paper portal]

real

theres a shocking amount of dnd players who dont actually like dnd

[limber trail]

DnD unfortunately by virtue of being the “default” ttrpg is kinda bent into all kinds of shapes and it gets played by a lot of folks who might enjoy other systems more

[mystic field]

Building minis on heroforge and writing the next session for my campaign while sitting on top of a castle feels awesome

[fiery nimbus]

DnD is the worst thing ever created
anyway im excited for the session today

[red forge]

is creature type a species trait?

[north vine]

What

[glad arch]

Creature type is decided by species if thats what you mean

All species will list what creature type they are

[cedar bane]

Technically yeah? It's moreso part of its classification (speed, size, type, lifespan)

[marble lion]

I wouldnt say its a trait

[umbral scarab]

@mystic horizon (moving from art channel) well, you can meet people here! there's also plenty of DnD artists in art communities

[knotty vine]

It’s a trait

All of those little boxes list your species thing type abilities size speed

[marble lion]

Yes I agree that those are all traits

Traits are something you have

To me humans have traits like spacial vision, warmblood, 2 legs
Being a mammal I didnt think was a trait

In DnD terms

[paper portal]

not mammal, humanoid

[marble lion]

I know

[paper portal]

mammals dont exist in dnd

[knotty vine]

Your creature type is still also a trait aka humanoid

[marble lion]

I meant irl

[knotty vine]

I don’t think traits exactly exist irl

[marble lion]

Do you know that?

[marble lion]

Of course traits exist irl

[knotty vine]

In terms of dnd to irl no I don’t think they do

We aren’t exactly vast enough to have them

[marble lion]

After a quick google search I dont think DnD has anything defined as traits per species

So creature type is not a trait

[knotty vine]

But it is

[ripe nimbus]

and remember that 5.5e is something like the... counts ...13th rules revision?

[knotty vine]

Like the size of a Goliath

[marble lion]

Google has failed me then

Id appreciate a source though

[knotty vine]

The rule books?

[limber trail]

…I suspect you’re misarticulating your point, because this is just incorrect. Species traits are listed in the PHB, both versions have them

[marble lion]

Ill have a look to find out!

[knotty vine]

Human Traits
Creature Type: Humanoid
Size: Medium (about 4-7 feet tall) or Small (about 2-4 feet tall), chosen when you select this species
Speed: 30 feet

[marble lion]

Ah there alright

It shows that I havent done DnD in a year soon

[knotty vine]

I think its cool that the max size of a medium creature is 8 feet tall

[cursive thorn]

Where is this from? Out of curiousity because the MM 2024, when giving advice on how to read a statblock shows type and traits as seperate things.

[knotty vine]

The players hand book

[cursive thorn]

In 2024, it lists type and traits separately there as well.

[knotty vine]

It does?

https://www.dndbeyond.com/species/1751441-human

theres normal traits then special traits no idea what your reading

[cursive thorn]

I think in the PHB when talking about PC's its distinguishes between traits (which are part of your Species) and Special traits which are seperate.

MM when talking about NPC's doesnt make that distinction.

[umbral girder]

He said the Monster Manual after all

[knotty vine]

Why would we be talking abou the Monster manual?

[cursive thorn]

Why wouldnt we be? I was just asking the question because I found the discussion interesting.

[knotty vine]

We were talking about if Creature Type is a Species Trait

Which it is I guess not in the monster manual I guess

[cursive thorn]

Yes, and it looks like for PC's it is, the PHB defines/seperates out special traits as not part of the species but for NPC's in the MM it is defined seperately.

[limber trail]

That’s ultimately because traits aren’t defined the same way between PCs and NPCs/monsters

Plenty of things that are considered traits for one aren’t for the other

[cursive thorn]

Which is what I found mildly interesting.

[limber trail]

It is

It raises some interesting thoughts about the way NPCs and PCs are each designed

[knotty vine]

I think the main diff between the two are PCs are made to be played and NPCS are not

Npcs have acess to stuff that Pcs more often then not wont have

[umbral girder]

Imagine if the Cthulhu stat block has “vulnerable to bludgeoning damage from boats”

[knotty vine]

Very specific weakness

I like it

[umbral girder]

Mainly as a reference to that story ending with a guy turning Cthulhu into the ocean version of a speed bump

[knotty vine]

I shall ponder my orb

I have found out that the Ravenloft book is set to release in 59 days

I'm reading about the Flaming Fist, and it's so funny to me that if the PCs don't go to do the mission, their boss will send a group of not just 6 Flaming Fist members but also a flame skull to escort the players to do the mission.

[viral kraken]

i thought the story ended with the guy turning himself into a splinter in the side of a god?

[knotty vine]

It's really a case of, "Why don't you just go do it, then?"

[umbral girder]

The PC’s lives are expendable

Also evil aligned dudes

[knotty vine]

I know there evil but its like come on dude you have a flame skull

not to mention if they party some how deals with that group he just sends to more but anywho

[umbral girder]

It’s like the actually good leader isn’t there or something

[knotty vine]

Also the pcs are apart of the flaming fist...

[winged smelt]

Hello everyone! Ive been looking for a discord for dnd loll!

[knotty vine]

You came to the right place friend

Sit down at the tavern and grab a few drinks and tell us a few stories

[winged smelt]

fantastic.... what kind of stories? ha

[knotty vine]

Any kind I am always happy to lend an ear

[cedar bane]

#tales-from-the-table if you want just straight stories but otherwise just general discussion

[winged smelt]

oh fun! wow this is pretty cool!

[knotty vine]

I agree but we are mostly waiting for june 16th

[winged smelt]

oh? what is june 16th?

[knotty vine]

The newest dnd book come out

[winged smelt]

oh?

i am so behind on this what/??

[cedar bane]

a new ravenloft book, so horror stuff and straud

well

straud adjacent stuff; the domains of dread

[winged smelt]

dope!

[umbral girder]

Some updated subclasses for 5.5e and new subclasses too

[knotty vine]

New races as well

[winged smelt]

yo

[umbral girder]

Well 1 new race and 3 updated races

[winged smelt]

that is so cool! do you have a particular prferance in the books?

[knotty vine]

I just want the dog people ngl

[cedar bane]

advantage on perception checks that require hearing or smell, ability to lick wounds, run on all fours for a speed increase

i see the vision wotc refuses to realise

[knotty vine]

Running on all fors for a speed incrase would be cool

of course a built in bite attack

[cedar bane]

oh for sure

[winged smelt]

yo thats cool

[knotty vine]

I just wanna say thank you BG3 for existing for my up coming BG:DiA camp

[pseudo ocean]

yo im new and want to join a game if possible, im 18

[silk hare]

#find-a-game

[pseudo ocean]

mb thanks

[pseudo ocean]

paid?

[silk hare]

some are, some arent

[pseudo ocean]

that all right

alright*

[tame kelp]

Is Shield a weapon or not? (2014)

[silk hare]

its just an item, not a weapon as it doesnt have a specified damage/damage type Id say

it can be an IMPROVISED weapon tho

[tame kelp]

so that mean "Dueling" is still work if a fight hold a sword and a shield.

[still plover]

Yup!

[knotty vine]

its armor

it has to be donned or doffed

[still plover]

Like, a lantern isn't a weapon, but you could certainly lamp someone with one.

[cloud mulch]

Saw this kinda thing on my fyp thought I could adjust it to dnd.

Dm: could you please not
Problem Player: IWMCWD

Dm: you are fighting in a small corridor
Wizard: ICF

Dm: there’s a dragon infront of you
Bard: CIRTS

Dm: you enter a dark cave
Dwarf: IHDV

Dm: And that concludes the end of the session
Player: DWLU

See how many you get!

[knotty vine]

I cast fire ball

for the wizard one

[austere root]

that's easy

it's all five dnd jokes

[cloud mulch]

Fair enough

[knotty vine]

"its what my character would do"

[austere root]

the bane of my existence

[knotty vine]

Dwarf I have dark vision

[austere root]

i had this one paladin who was knocked down just before the end of session and apparently "if i didn't save him the paladin would've killed my warlock" and that's just 🤮

[knotty vine]

classic

and do we level up

Can I roll to seduce?

[cloud mulch]

Aight I need to come up with some more that was clearly too easy

[delicate owl]

"Can I use my homebrew even though I just joined this game and the rules say no homebrew?"

[knotty vine]

I remember there was this one time a paladin in full plate tried to press my druid, and I kept telling him I wouldn't need to lift a finger to beat him.

And he kept saying do it then I looked at them dm and he allowed us to duel

I won int and up casted heal metal on his armor and turn into a bird and flew up

[feral fulcrum]

They never ask permission, they come with the homebrew charecter prebuilt

[knotty vine]

I always think thats weird

Like whenever I get into the "any QSoC" thats like the very first thing I always ask before I make my character

[delicate owl]

A lot of other things I can acept. Long as it is done in respect of others but joining with impossible expectations? No.

[cloud mulch]

Player: kills the final boss
Dm: HDYWTDT

Player: Can I go stab the king in the neck
DM: YCCT

Dm: everyone roll your stealth checks
Rogue: DATFP

Dm: you start in a tavern
Player: IGTTTBK

Those are also pretty easy

[knotty vine]

How do you want to do this

You can certianly try

[feral fulcrum]

Sometimes it's because they litteraly didn't bother to read, and have Main Charecter Syndrome, other time they did read, and didn't care, and still have Main Charecter Syndrome, more rarely...they might just be stupid.

[cloud mulch]

I feel doing either of the first 2 is a precursor for the last one

[knotty vine]

Yeah but like whenver your going int any type of game the dm will usually say "do you have any quesitons comments or concerns" and ill usually ask "how do you feel about 3rd party/homebrew"

legit not that hard to ask in the middle of the interview or whatever you wanna call it

[cloud mulch]

Most homebrew isn’t prefect and needs editing because the dm is trying to get it work better. I’ve had players come up to me with a ridiculous subclass that they really want to play and know it too strong so we have appropriately nerfed it together. Homebrew is all about collaborating with the dm to make it as fun as possible in my games I don’t know why people think otherwise

[feral fulcrum]

Player: IGTTTBK : Definitely not "I go to the tasty burger king."

[knotty vine]

mmm

[still plover]

Yeah. You need a group with good trust first before player side homebrew seems like a good idea.

[knotty vine]

burger king

[glad arch]

How many gp would a wopper be though

[knotty vine]

Ive made a few homebrew subclasses/races but they are not allowed outside of my tables

Mainly cause I use stuff from 3e and 4e in a few of the races

and that would fry the mind of a normal dnd player

[feral fulcrum]

That reminds me, I still kind of want to attempt to bring that one SW5E subclass to 5E... Way of Manipulation was cool (TLDR Basically a Subclass that functionally mimics animate objects kind of. Telikinetically controlled weapons are coooool.)

[austere root]

Ooh, the last one is difficult

I go to the tavernkeep burger king

[feral fulcrum]

It'd be copper, not gold. Peasants gotta be able to buy it afterall.

[knotty vine]

Asdx spitting fax

[cloud mulch]

75 it’s a common magic item that makes any person within 60ft burst into the whopper song once per long rest as an action

[knotty vine]

I reflavor all my good berries to be good burgers

[feral fulcrum]

"can I offer you a burger in these trying times?"

[knotty vine]

the new Noble art is killing me lmao

well not new 2024

https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/5195145-noble

"hmm yes this boar taste qutie lovely"

[cloud mulch]

I do love killing a noble for easy starting armour

Love killing nobles in general

They usually annoying as hell

[feral fulcrum]

Either they've got poor taste in makeup, or a horrid skin condition.

[rough basalt]

Nobles are probably my favorite npcs to have involved in something

[fair summit]

Real "eat the rich" -vibes lol

[feral fulcrum]

Finding out an NPC was a Princess that survived a murder attempt by a Vampire Vizier certainly led to the most fun I've had in my Saturday campaign.

[severe rampart]

Real

[feral fulcrum]

Lead to a whole trek to another Kingdom, a whole plot around toppling Secret Vampire Cabal, politics, tactical turbo murder, Knights, a Tourney, the whole nine yards. It was great.

[severe rampart]

I'm so excited for my session tomorrow, hope I can pull off what I want to tell

[feral fulcrum]

Good luck Echo

[rough basalt]

My one shot last night was messy

[feral fulcrum]

I've got a whole nother week to wait before we continue the boss fight, since a Player had to miss today. :_:

[rough basalt]

There was like an hour of tech difficulties cause a thing for ddb on foundry stopped working suddenly after a couple years.

[severe rampart]

Much appreciated and needed