dnd-discussion

[reef tundra]

What?!?!

[short brook]

I remember seeing an insane statblock for Strahd, like cr 25 or sumn

[reef tundra]

Damn he is much stronger than I thought

[short brook]

HB ofc but I thought it was funny

[umbral girder]

Vecna’s hand is currently in Avernus with a Dragonborn Paladin of Tiamat

[woven flint]

He's stronger CR wise than VECNA

[umbral girder]

Actually he is Cr21

[woven flint]

Ah, what?

[umbral girder]

He was in an AL module where the Far Realm gave him a big boost to Cr30 temporarily

[woven flint]

Don't tell me he's a normal ass lich statblock and I was tripping

[reef tundra]

Holy moly

[woven flint]

Ah, right

[umbral girder]

And if you look at the block. It was a regular lich + Far Realm powers

[jagged sentinel]

I'm talking about that one Neil Newbon clip.

[umbral girder]

So yeah Szass Tam is a regular lich

[woven flint]

This pisses me off

[prime pewter]

Wait my Kobold Cleric could open up a shop for mending metal stuff!!

[umbral girder]

Bro mainly has power he borrows from cooler and stronger guys

In 5.5e he is hiding now because they are coming to collect their fees.

[woven flint]

Szass Fruadtam

[umbral girder]

One is the super lich, Larloch the Shadow King

[cursive fox]

I like the art for the new Tarroka deck, and love that it comes with a mini guide on using it. That's a must buy for me along with the new DM screen.

[prime pewter]

(Is there... a term for this? Like mender or smthing?)

[umbral girder]

Heroes of Faerun saying “ever since the fall of Szass Tam’s rule as he went into hiding Red Wizards have been more neutral aligned” or something like that

[woven flint]

Oh, yeah, no, Szass is getting dogwalked

[severe rampart]

it's uhh... welding

[prime pewter]

Darn

[woven flint]

Welder

[umbral girder]

Larloch is fun because he is super old (Netherese lich) and he just does side quests

[prime pewter]

Anyways wanna give your patronage to this totally not suspicious Kobold who is offering to weld stuff?

[umbral girder]

He once bought a book about the history of Nethril and it disgusted him while reading it so much he hunted down the author to fix the historical mistakes and misinformation

[silk hare]

who made the spell that just drains life force of an area again?
I think he was also a nethereese wizard, but technically not a lic h

[umbral girder]

So now that book has him as a co-author

[severe rampart]

What are ways you can make your boss aura farm (that doesn't help him at all mechanically)

[umbral girder]

Larloch actually had a Cantrip like Vampiric Touch in previous editions too

[woven flint]

DO NOT call this man a warlock 🔥🔥

[silk hare]

cape of billowing

[severe rampart]

besides Cape of Billowing, that's the easy way out

[umbral girder]

Fun fact his home is called “Warlock’s Crypt”

[severe rampart]

Also I'm 100% sure my party would rob him immediately

[silk hare]

have them have an orchestra just for themself

[umbral girder]

It’s north of Baldur’s Gate

[short brook]

Make him immediately alerted to their presence, and have his back turned

[woven flint]

"A few minstrels mistakenly called Larloch "the Warlock" or "the Warlock King," after the Warlock's Crypt where he dwelled, but Larloch, apparently, took umbrage at being called a warlock. Composers of ballads naming him as such were supposedly kidnapped by creatures in the night and carried away to be tortured and turned into some undead thing by Larloch. Thus, singing the ballad "The Warlock King" anywhere in three days' ride of the Troll Hills was not advised, lest Larloch overhear and be displeased."

[fair robin]

monologue

[umbral girder]

He is so powerful all the chosen of Mystra attacked him at the same time.

It was a Stalemate

[severe rampart]

Let him make the party attack him first for free

[umbral girder]

There is a reason why other Liches work as his servants

[severe rampart]

Oh yeah, already written it

[severe rampart]

That's already implemented for a different boss of mine, but nice idea!

[umbral girder]

New quest

[woven flint]

Find the Ballad of the Warlock King?

piss off Larloch immensely?

[short brook]

Have the rays of sun make his silhouette dark

[umbral girder]

Quest Updated: Troll the Warlock King

[short brook]

Aka the sunkissed technique

[glossy otter]

Hey, I happen to be good friends with the warlock king

[woven flint]

This man is a CR 34 in 3rd edition

[umbral girder]

Yeah he had epic levels

[short brook]

For sure the back turned though, and slow turn around. That's always tough as hell

[umbral girder]

He’s around Vecna and Acererak level of op Liches

[severe rampart]

Darn, wish I could implement that, they'll fight inside an underground dungeon unfortunately, perhaps I could make it a torch or a lantern instead

[woven flint]

Imagine if Larloch, Vecna and Acererak worked together

[umbral girder]

Larloch is gaslight
Vecna is Girlboss
Acererak is Gatekeep

[rough basalt]

I'm getting more motivated to do my horror themed campaign.

[woven flint]

I thought Acererak was the Gaslighter!
smh

[humble cairn]

Depends on the boss. Show their specific area of hyper competence.

[rough basalt]

Narration can as well

[short brook]

Ooo that's a good one

[umbral girder]

Why’s that?

[severe rampart]

Fair, perhaps them sharpening their battleaxe while monologuing to the party while they're chained up

[woven flint]

Because he's Acererak

[rough basalt]

When I got to do my only bbeg intro so far, I narrated how the boss room went silent as all they heard was the sound of heavy footsteps behind them.

[short brook]

I do think what you were saying does give maximum aura points, using class features as a boss is always a +100 to their aura

[woven flint]

Have him Behead a minotaur in one sweep of his battleaxe

[umbral girder]

Acererak is about putting things in the way because he won’t let you in
Larloch is about manipulation

[rough basalt]

And then the BBEG showed up. Talked to the party. Grabbed something from the boss and left.

[severe rampart]

Tokii, you are a genius

[umbral girder]

Vecna gets Girlboss due to process of elimination

[rough basalt]

Vecna is a girlboss

[short brook]

Oooo that's a good one

[woven flint]

Or, alternatively, what CR is he supposed to be?

[short brook]

Reminds me of Ketheric

[humble cairn]

So this is a tough martial type boss? What is their reputation in world?

[rough basalt]

Ketheric in BG3 is a good example of a villain introduction if you want sheer aura.

[woven flint]

Could have him fell an adult silver dragon

[rough basalt]

Same with ||Myrkul||

[short brook]

Ngl when I saw him and the music started playing I was like 😦 why is he so cool

[severe rampart]

Low CR, party hasn't leveled up much yet, but he's still pretty tough

[humble cairn]

Do they have a safe sanctuary in the caves?

[severe rampart]

Ohh yeah, two phases, a tactical mind and then reckless fighter when bloodied

[woven flint]

Yeah, then killing a Minotaur in one blow would be a pretty aura feat

[severe rampart]

No, they'd be chained up while the villain is monologuing

[humble cairn]

And is there a planned way to escape from the chains?

[gritty merlin]

Hi

[severe rampart]

Was thinking about that, maybe he might, out of arrogance, let them free and enjoy himself as he battles them instead of just executing them outright

[humble cairn]

How about he takes what looks like is going to be a lethal swing at one of them, only for his precision to mean he slices neatly throug their chains without harming them at all?

Tactical competence.

[severe rampart]

Ohh yeah, right after cleaving the head off of a monstrosity as well

[humble cairn]

He let's one of them out, then points his axe and raises an eyebrow challengingly but does not advance, giving them the choice. Attack? Free more allies? Run away?

[humble cairn]

I would personally save the brute force stuff for the second phase.

And the way I would do it is to have him use his muscles to reshape the entire environment in some way. Cleave a pillar that collapses the ceiling for floor or wall or something.

[severe rampart]

Oooh I'll definitely adapt something like that

Something showing elegance and skill

[harsh dew]

dm.vogel is a fake dnd dm trying to scam new players

[short brook]

You could also make him waste an expensive resource in front of the parties eyes

[severe rampart]

#moderator-support is probably the right place

[harsh dew]

Be careful and report

Ok thank you

[humble cairn]

As helpful as you're trying to be, specifically naming and shaming people is against server rules.

[hot reef]

Have him willingly fail saving throws (hurts him mechanically, or if he’s immune to the conditions it imposes, it has no effect)

[harsh dew]

Sorry I didn’t know

[hot reef]

Or use legendary resistances without rolling the save first

[harsh dew]

but wouldn’t it be worst for a person scamming those who r trying to learn worst than me warning people?

[severe rampart]

"Go ahead. If you have the will to live, strike first and strike true."

[hot reef]

Raphael in that one cutscene in BG3

[severe rampart]

I'd probably have to rewrite the monologue then

[steady zephyr]

UPDATE LOG: rahhhh I found all the voice actors I needed ty facebook

[severe rampart]

Happy for ya!

[steady zephyr]

thank you!

wish i was my pfp frfr

[rough basalt]

I'm getting my horror game put together in my mind.

It might actually happen.

[severe rampart]

How many campaigns are you running now?

[rough basalt]

2

Thinking I might get my horror anthology I wrote last year and fleshing out the land its in. Then use the places and parts of the anthology for quests.

[silk hare]

VAs for what?

[severe rampart]

Sounds amazing!

[steady zephyr]

short campaign I'm making!

I plan to make this my biggest project yet

[silk hare]

and u need VAs for that?

[severe rampart]

probably for NPCs

[steady zephyr]

danganronpa style ^^ trials are fully voice acted

++ visual novel style

I might send samples here because I'm so excited

the first session will be on wed, but it's a false trap kind of session

where I lure them into thinking it's a romance sim, but in reality is a murder mystery killing game

smth like that

I DID send a sample of a UI I did

[severe rampart]

Might have to tell them about that

[steady zephyr]

hm?

[severe rampart]

it's not good to be like "aha, I gotcha", by giving them an entire different thing than what they joined for

[steady zephyr]

Oh I told them all the genres already dw

[severe rampart]

Okay great

[rough basalt]

Yeah I'm taking the night off my one campaign tonight for reasons and might get started on it try and deal with said reasons.

[severe rampart]

Hope you have fun

[rough basalt]

IRL house maintenance BS has me in a circle

[severe rampart]

That do how it be sometimes

[rough basalt]

I wish Mending cantrip existed IRL

Unfortunately gotta make Intelligence checks with Tinkers Tools, then Strength checks with Shovels.

[stray arch]

Can I ask y'all a question? I wanted some input on how to make recommendations without coming across condescending. I've noticed the Rogue in our party doesn't ever use her Cunning Strikes feature (5.5), and I don't know if she's aware she has them. I wanna tell her, in case it would help, but i don't wanna hurt her in case it's unwelcome

[rough basalt]

Well they're situational abilities to begin with.

Personally I've rarely used mine in my Tuesday game.

Now part of that is cause two of my options aren't viable in that game, but also I find that more damage can be more useful 9/10

[stray arch]

That's fair. We've just been playing for a couple of years, i get the impression she might not be aware

[rough basalt]

She might not be. Could just ask her why she's not using them, say you're curious or something. She might be aware and is just choosing the damage.

Fortunately Cunning Strikes are kinda just nice extra tools rather than a core thing to use well.

I forget about them sometimes as well

[stray arch]

I've only played 2014 rogue so i confess i don't know them very well in practice

[rough basalt]

They're just potentially helpful extra abilities that cost sneak attack dice

Like knocking someone prone ahead of some melee martials in your party

[knotty vine]

hell hell

[rough basalt]

Withdraw let's you disengage for free.

[stray arch]

Oh i know what they are, ive read the descriptions

but i havent had to consider them in a real combat

[knotty vine]

doom dectected and caught

[rough basalt]

They just sort of exist.

Like I said, I don't even use most of them if at all.

[stray arch]

Withdraw seems a bit overkill along cunning action, but the other two seem strong to me. Poisoned and prone are both good conditions

a lot of enemies are immune to poisoned but still

[rough basalt]

A lot more aren't.

Like 380 something aren't in the 5.5e MM at least.

It's just most DMs only really use the enemies that are

And some modules also use them 90% of the time.

[knotty vine]

what a thrill

[rough basalt]

Like the one I'm in, Eve of Ruin.

Which is why I don't use the poison or terrify option I get from my subclass

Then I have the mobile feat so I just take the OA attacks sometimes and dont use Withdraw. My party consists of a few ranged attackers so I don't use trip.

[stray arch]

That's fair. In combat i try to focus most on my own abilities (that i definitely dont use optimally either) and my group tries to avoid backseat gaming

[rough basalt]

The higher level 3 cunning strikes I should try and use more.

Only problem with them is two of them are Con saves.

[humble cairn]

Does your party strategize with each other at all?

[stray arch]

I mean yeah a bit. WOuldn't say a gigantic amount, but some

We have a main healer and I'm the secondary healer, and we often discuss who's on yo-yo duty today 😅

[fiery nimbus]

You know whats better than a healer? someone who kills the enemies

[onyx haven]

Oh? So new Ravenloft book pre-orders are up, and it's 7 subclasses? Nice

[humble cairn]

So strategizing like "Can anyone knock this one prone so our melee can really wail on them?" might be a way to see if they'd use their Cunnin Strikes, but otherwise I would say let them play their own character.

[stray arch]

We do talk about stuff like that yeah

[stray arch]

More allies not downed=higher action economy though

[sharp lily]

Is it likely that reanimator subclass features will be 100% identical to unearthed arcana from last year?

[fiery nimbus]

well yes but how can they be downed if every enemy in the room is dead

you know what, don't answer that im sure they will find a way

[stray arch]

I'm playing a paladin but i'm ngl if i can choose between a divine smite or healing wording an ally to get them up and doing stuff again with my bonus action, that word do be healing

I don't do much healing of people who arent down

[fiery nimbus]

I wish more DM's used the rules to prevent Whack-a-Mole

[onyx haven]

We'll have to wait and see. It's been almost a year

Also, that UA had 8 subclasses, so someone didn't make the cut, I guess?

[stray arch]

Do we know which 7?

[onyx haven]

We just know Reanimator and Hollow Warden.

[stray arch]

I'm glad reanimator made it

[onyx haven]

I'd guess that either Hexblade or Undead didn't get in, because then Warlock would be getting 2 subclasses in this release, vs the rest getting 1

[fiery nimbus]

isn't reanimator just a fancy pancy necrodancer

[onyx haven]

You get a goon

[fiery nimbus]

BOB DO SOMETHING

[stray arch]

I like that it makes Spare the Dying a spark of life

[rough basalt]

Hexblade got moved to the Arcana book later this year.

[stray arch]

that book better have all 4 of the missing wizard schools

[onyx haven]

So, yea. that's it

[rough basalt]

It does

[stray arch]

four in the PHB was sad

that's good

[onyx haven]

So it should be
Bard: College of Spirits
Cleric: Grave Domain
Rogue: Phantom
Sorceror: Shadow
Warlock: Undead
Artificer: Reanimator
Ranger: Hollow Warden

[fiery nimbus]

Im more curious what species are they putting in, im guessing Reborn and Hexblood but Dhympir was already reprintet so surely they won't double up that fast

[rough basalt]

Dhampir is in it.

[onyx haven]

They've also got a Werewolf now

[rough basalt]

And Lupin

[stray arch]

Those are all so peak I'm looking forword to it

[rough basalt]

My guess they wanted to put Dhampir into a physical printing and it fits ravenloft.

[knotty vine]

Oh it did?

Honestly quite shocking

[rough basalt]

Everything except Hexblade.

[stray arch]

My favorite is probably Grave Cleric. Was already good in 2014, I wonder what theyll improve in the final version

[knotty vine]

(Get it shocking)

[rough basalt]

Which was moved.

[stray arch]

Also big fan of Undead Warlock

I wanna play one of those

[rough basalt]

I think Grave is getting nerfed

[fiery nimbus]

didn't they just reprint it, come on

[onyx haven]

My main warlock finally gets her subclass updated. Yay

[knotty vine]

Was undead or undying bad

[rough basalt]

Reprinted in a digital only product

[rough basalt]

Undying

[onyx haven]

Undying was the boring one

[rough basalt]

It was so bad they made Undead Warlock rather than remaking Undying.

[stray arch]

undying is terrible yeah

[rough basalt]

Dhampir is in Ravenloft I assume so people who don't buy DDB only products can get Dhampir.

And it's the only book they fit in.

[fiery nimbus]

La-Carte buying died for this you know

[knotty vine]

What about book of hungers?

[rough basalt]

It's a ddb only product

[stray arch]

didnt they do something weird with dhampir where Con still dictates damage of their special unarmed, but it no longer helps the to-hit? or am i misinformed

[rough basalt]

Mainly made as a pre-order bonus.

I think the only change is they removed the not needing to breathe and replaced it with Necrotic resistance.

[knotty vine]

2 months till new dnd content

[knotty vine]

Not entirely true

They also lost the ability to get a fly/swim speed if you had those

[rough basalt]

Well they were made a full species rather a lineage.

Which I assume Hexblood and Reborn will be the same case.

[knotty vine]

Probably

[rough basalt]

Cause flying Dhampirs was probably an issue they didn't realize lol

[knotty vine]

Flying hexblood!

[rough basalt]

But Dhampir I'm assuming is in it so a physical version of it exists.

And there's no other book it'd fit into.

Also if you're buying the new Ravenloft you probably want all the ravenloft species in it.

[onyx haven]

I just wanna see the Lupin kit.

[rough basalt]

And imo there's not much more species they could do ravenloft wise other than Lupin.

Reborn and Hexblood cover a lot of potential flavors.

[onyx haven]

Lemme see werewolf skills 😄

[rough basalt]

An eldritch horror species is probably the only remaining thing they could do.

[fiery nimbus]

I don't see a problem, those usually fly

[knotty vine]

My dog girl will become reality

[rough basalt]

I'm mostly looking forward to the Dark Sun books.

Tho I'm excited to see that the Dark Lords are getting actual statblocks

And we're getting a one shot for each of the 17 Dark Lords assumably

[fiery nimbus]

What delightful agony we shall inflict.

[knotty vine]

Exactly

[fiery nimbus]

DM did let me play a Merfolk in the campaign under one single condition

I have to sing a song every 5th session

[rough basalt]

I'll be pre-ordering ravenloft next month probably

[knotty vine]

Same here

[buoyant oar]

Did they actually announce Dark Sun Books?

[onyx haven]

My warlock wants her subclass back now pls 😄

[fiery nimbus]

so... why are all your undead summons chewed up

[stray arch]

[rough basalt]

August

[knotty vine]

censored

[rough basalt]

They're gonna announce them at Gencon.

[buoyant oar]

But we know they are Dark Sun?

Or is that still a rumor

[onyx haven]

She don't bite them. They're friend 😄

[knotty vine]

It would be funny if dark sun didn’t get announced at all

[rough basalt]

It's an unconfirmed confirmation really

[knotty vine]

“All theories are wrong goodbye” dnd beyond

[buoyant oar]

Watch it be the Mystara Revival we have all been waiting for.

[rough basalt]

It's said that the champions book will be a world where magic destroyed it. Where evil beings called bleed kings rule as tyrants.

That it's name can be derived from the opposite of this title.
Light Moon

But yeah there's no way it's not gonna be dark sun imo.

[fiery nimbus]

"DARK SUN: Return of Mecha Strahd 2"

[rough basalt]

The obviously Dark Sun UA.

Psion

Dark Sun getting its IP renewed after well reception of the UA.

[buoyant oar]

It's the cross over for Dark Souls obviously/s

[rough basalt]

The UA being dropped pretty quickly after the dudes keeping it from being made were completely gone.

[knotty vine]

Kill dark sun

[fiery nimbus]

To be honest every book is better with mecha in it, look at the Eberron

[rough basalt]

I'm guessing it'll be a Box set to nostalgia reach.
With Champions of Athas being the running name.

[buoyant oar]

Like an actual box set or a dual book thing like FR

[rough basalt]

Actual box. It'd be the smartest play imo.

[buoyant oar]

We haven't gotten an Actual non Starter set Boxed Set in decades

[rough basalt]

First Dark Sun was a box set. It's return after being kept at bay by Perk, Craw and that other dude. After so many years.

Make it a box set to gain the nostalgia reach

[buoyant oar]

I don't know if theyd go that far. They didn't with FR or Spelljammer or Planescape which all started as Boxed sets.

Now, if it's something like the 5e Planescape slip case that'd be nice.

[rough basalt]

Yeah something like that probably

[buoyant oar]

But in this day and age 92 pages of lore and setting info just ain't enough for a large setting set for the price they are.

[rough basalt]

It's gonna happen tho. I would almost bet money its gonna happen.

[buoyant oar]

The new FR books should be the new minimum for setting quality.

[rough basalt]

Cause NuWotC is really trying to improve the company image and undo all the damage the Cordell (4e) and the 5e era have done.

[thorn obsidian]

How can I msg in looking for DM? I need to ask for a co-dm for a one piece homebrew

[rough basalt]

You can see it with the noticeable quality improvement and them trying to restore old partnerships and ties.

As well as the inclusion of 4e aspects into 5.5e

[buoyant oar]

Tbh more so than anything I would like more info on Organized play. When WotC stopped writing AL and opened up adventures to the DMsGUILD it became a mess to keep track of.

[rough basalt]

I do welcome this new approach they're having which is "dnd settings exist to be used." Unlike the last 10 years where it was "settings only exist to sell modules nothing more even the setting we keep forcing you into won't get a guide from us."

[buoyant oar]

A Discord category in the main hobby server just isn't a good place to centralize information.

Mainly because discord is not web indexable. So if you aren't a member of this discord server finding AL information is just straight up a pita

[rough basalt]

I don't know anything about AL but it sounds like that'd be good

[buoyant oar]

I would not be surprised if an AL category appeared on DDB as a place to get adventures. Instead of the current method. Wading through 10,000+ dungeon craft content on DMsGUILD or hoping the store you are running for hooks you up.

[wanton nexus]

Being invited to a campaign to then get basically told, im not allowed to meet or know who I'm playing with until the first session might have been the largest red flag Ive ever seen

[woven flint]

Run for your life

[wanton nexus]

Trust me, i was outta there

[woven flint]

Sonic never seen a fool run that fast fr /silly

[rough basalt]

I can see it happening.

[crimson gulch]

The shop I run at is so excited to see the new support that's rolling down

[rough basalt]

Man am I really gonna spend 150 dollars on this ravenloft bundle.

Yeah probably.

[red falcon]

Hey everyone I’m new to dnd I created my first character he’s a paladin

[woven flint]

Hell yeah

[short brook]

Paladins are bomb

[rough basalt]

My wallet is really gonna hate me

But I really want that bundle.

[crimson gulch]

Tonight I'm playing dnd, from the balcony of my ocean side hotel room in Mexico 😎
As a player no less!

[severe rampart]

What character are you playing?

[deft adder]

Hey everyone I just got into dnd and I’m looker for a starter kit to buy so me and a couple of my buddies can play any recommendations we are all new

[severe rampart]

I find that when a forever DM finally gets to play they always make an insanely good character

[crimson gulch]

I have a reborn Paladin named Ein who got dug up in a mine and just escaped with the party in a sort of work camp/prison break

[severe rampart]

Woah!

[red falcon]

I’m about to paint my figure now

[severe rampart]

Reborns are awesome

[knotty vine]

Question

[severe rampart]

I'm in a party with a reborn kobold and I DM a party that has a Reborn Grave Cleric

[knotty vine]

If I use fireball underwater and have elemental adept would that creature still have resistance or what

[red falcon]

I tried dming a while back my friends didn’t take it serious they aren’t as nerdy as I am

[severe rampart]

Wouldn't the fireball immediately dissipate? I mean, if it doesn't, you're still making the water insanely hot so... probably full damage?

[knotty vine]

Fireball is magic why would it just dissipate

It ain’t normal fire

[severe rampart]

Not all friends make good D&D friends

[lavish flame]

You'd bypass the resistance

[severe rampart]

Bypass

I mean, you just answered your own question, it's magic

[red falcon]

Truly they don’t and it was a pretty fun one I think I even made two twin elves who were pretty much stoners but they were interesting characters and important to the story

[knotty vine]

My dm LIED to me

I knew I was right

[feral fulcrum]

Lie is a strong word.

[severe rampart]

Eh, I find that "bit" characters or characters created as a joke get old fast

I mean, it might be funny for one or two sessions but for a whole campaign?

[knotty vine]

I told them multiple times that the resistance wouldn’t apply

[crimson gulch]

I find them fine, because we allways find ourselves on the journy, or their recklessness gets them killed. Win win

[severe rampart]

If they were the DM and that was their ruling at the time I wouldn't blame them tbh

[feral fulcrum]

And even they're wrong about it, it's still their decision to make?

Like, you realize they're in charge of what does, and doesn't work, yeah?

[severe rampart]

Yeah, fair point

[red falcon]

Yes they didn’t live the whole time tho. Think merry and pippin from lord of the rings but as elves they start out kind of annoying but they eventually became responsible and they sacrificed themselves

[knotty vine]

Yeah but they were saying that the resistance from them being a tielfing and being underwater would stack overriding my elemental

Which makes absolutely no sense

Why I’m I still in this game

[severe rampart]

Resistance doesn't stack

[knotty vine]

I kept saying that

[deft adder]

Hey everyone I’m new to dnd and was looking at getting a starter set for me and my buddies who are all new any recommendations please

[ember escarp]

[severe rampart]

Oh my god, the emoji is a cat and not a bat?

I'm looking at it from a phone's perspective and I never knew

[ember escarp]

WAIT WHAT LOL

I thought it was a bat lmao

[woven flint]

Howdee

[severe rampart]

That's a tail???

[ember escarp]

HII!!

[knotty vine]

Welcome to the O

[woven flint]

: ) How art thou

[ember escarp]

I’m good, you? ; D

[knotty vine]

This is the same DM that said I had to roll a flat DC 19 “check” or my spells would just go away

[woven flint]

Alive, I s'ppose

[severe rampart]

90% chance your spell just is gone?

[ember escarp]

LMAO

[fluid igloo]

How canonical is light domain cleric of Selune? Wiki doesn't list light domain on her page, but it thematically fits very well. Or does it

[knotty vine]

Pretty much

[severe rampart]

Uhh this is probably a question to be asked in #dnd-lore

[woven flint]

Thats a bunch of red flags, Tasha

[rough basalt]

I should run my horror game early in the day so I can put a lot of vocal energy into it.

[young marten]

Heyo chat

[crimson gulch]

What? All the time?

[errant crag]

That's a bad ruling

[ember escarp]

HII!!

[young marten]

Hey,, Wassup?

[ember escarp]

Nothing much, you?

[ember sandal]

I don't know where to put this, but did the server pfp just change?

[ember escarp]

Yes lmao

Wasn’t it red?

[ember sandal]

ya, that's what I thought

[young marten]

I'm also getting bored 😭

[sonic quiver]

👀

[ember escarp]

I like the art in ur pfp btw : )

[tribal night]

Anyway, arcane archer fighter way of the elements monk is quite a silly build

[ember escarp]

Bros peeking at us lmao

[young marten]

I drew her I don't know her actual name but she is vertual star of Japan

[ember escarp]

It’s amazing!!

[knotty vine]

Whenever I casted the spell

[ember escarp]

How did it go

[knotty vine]

Somehow my 5th level spell just ended “just cause”

[young marten]

Yeah Japanese names are insane to remember. I can't even pronounce 😁

[delicate owl]

I hope the ravenloft subclass stuff got changes from the ua. A lot of it needed touches here and there.

[stoic haven]

Why was this even a ruling?

Do they not like spellcasters?

[knotty vine]

Idk

[woven flint]

It's all in your mind

[ember sandal]

ah okay, I thought I was going crazy anyways, lol !!

[errant crag]

Stuff like this is why I keep my games as close to RAW as I can, I really try not to need to make rulings on the fly.

[woven flint]

I think the gaslighting worked a little too well...

[woven flint]

No, it did change lol
I was just messin' with ya

[ember sandal]

nah you're good, dw !

[loud tendon]

@tribal night questions about moderation go to #moderator-support . It is considered off topic to discuss moderation in any other channel.

[tribal night]

Ah alr

[ember escarp]

Good one lmao

[woven flint]

I cannot be trusted

I am THE April Fool.

[bronze wave]

is there a link to the all the ravenloft stuff? or stuff going over it

[ember escarp]

Remind me to not get on ur bad side lol

[woven flint]

I should have a part in the Trickery domain

[sharp belfry]

It's more imersive. Theirs a reason spellcasters in DBZ charge up their moves awhile

[woven flint]

I don't think it's more immersive lol

I think for casters, doing magic should be as simple as breathing air

[stoic haven]

Ok, spellcasters are borderline useless now, thanks

[woven flint]

"You take 3 rounds to cast fireball."

[viral kraken]

so they didn't outpace the manga

[stoic haven]

You waste a spell slot, to maybe have it go through, then they make a save, which makes it even less likely to do anything

Just not fun

[jolly canyon]

Cut the dps in thirds while still being susceptible to damage.

[sharp belfry]

See, Taz gets it

[jolly canyon]

I feel you!

[sharp belfry]

Yeah!

Us full casters know how to live with it

[viral kraken]

could make it more immersive if casters had to keep their spellslots inside of a bag mixed with broken glass i don't know that it would make it more fun tho

[jolly canyon]

My casters don't even get modifiers to attack rolls. Bonuses are the same as Aim Assist in shooters. I don't want them! /j

[sharp belfry]

Your casters use attack rolls?

[fiery nimbus]

Your casters deal damage?

[normal canyon]

Why’d the change the dnd thing

[sharp belfry]

Which one?

[normal canyon]

Idk

[sharp belfry]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fpe-1

[normal canyon]

Where like the humans be humans

[flint ledge]

Oooh spooky season

[past edge]

Have you guys ever used your real life experiences with grief to make a backstory for a character who has lost people and is dealing with grief? Or do you think the two things should stay separate?

[severe rampart]

Oh yeah man, because being an adventurer for years means you gotta take 3 rounds to cast Firebolt

[errant crag]

Something that's fun for me as a player is when overarching nerfs are slapped onto my class that prevent me from being able to play it how I want to and would normally be able to

[umbral girder]

What?

[sharp belfry]

Some days the best way to move on, is from another perspective

[sharp belfry]

Years?

Wow, thats impresive

[severe rampart]

Matter of fact, you only regain spell slots per year

[rough basalt]

Man the Ravenloft alt cover looks so damn good

[sharp belfry]

I dont regain spell slots

[errant crag]

That'll finally close the gap

[sharp belfry]

Wizards can still true polyfrog. smh

[errant crag]

Yeah but it takes them 10 rounds to cast it

For immersions sake

[severe rampart]

One round per spell level

Cantrips minimum 6 seconds

[sharp belfry]

Cube each roung per spell level. Cantrips take away turns

[knotty vine]

I should make a pugilist some day

[severe rampart]

And when you take the magic action, your movement, bonus action, and reaction are used up

Also every time you cast a spell you roll a d100, on a 1 you just explode

[errant crag]

That moment when you're a DM who feels casters are too OP but you don't know how to run the game in a way that mitigates this so you need to slam overwhelming nerfs on them so people just don't play them in your games

[knotty vine]

That’s wild

[severe rampart]

Casters are fine, Martials are fine

[lyric idol]

I kinda feel like OSE has the better method where you have to declare you're casting at the beginning of a second round and your spell only goes off at the end of the round after everyone else goes meaning melee characters have had their chance to fizzle your concentration.

[tough sandal]

I have a question for y'all. I had to relocate recently to a smaller rural area. I had a much easier time finding people interested in DND within the big city, but am having a harder time doing so now.

Have there been any strategies y'all have used to get people interested in-person?
I've been looking for players in-person, so I can run a game, for the past 2 months.

[flint ledge]

I mean I understand how you can have an issue with balancing it cause it relies on sponging up casters resources and some tables tend to not to want too many encounters per day

[sharp belfry]

I once played a gnome wild sourc who had to roll on the d10000 table any time he cast a spell, each spell was randomized, and each of his stats was rolled with a D20

[lyric idol]

Against all odds my best success is facebook groups. Because rural communities definitely still use Facebook for 90% of their social media and as such, tends to be the best result for DND.

[errant crag]

There's so many better ways to balance around casters than just "more encounters per day"

And certainly better than arbitrary massive nerfs

[silk hare]

why is the new profile picture grey?

[flint ledge]

I'm not saying they're good, or the best option, I'm just saying I understand where the initial train of thought comes from

[knotty vine]

are pugilist as broken as people say?

[ember sandal]

idk, I noticed that earlier, it changed super recently (like I think 10 minutes ago or something iirc)

[lyric idol]

You don't need to throw more encounters at your party. You need to diversify your encounters. Throw in some enemies that can get around the map faster. Say you want an undead horde? Boom throw in a wendigo. Give your monsters random abilities or magic items. Make it so when a spellcaster makes a good play the monsters target them as they become the biggest threat and try to force the party into a defensive position.

[tough sandal]

Thank you for the tip. The area is less densely-populated.
It's harder to find a social hub. While I'm getting more comfortable asking around the Local Game Store, it's been a process.
Four years changes a lot in a home county.

[silk hare]

yeah idk when, but deffo today

[severe rampart]

Gotta wait 5 more days for D&D now awh man

[silk hare]

problem with that is, that it can feel very "targeted", so dont overdo it

[errant crag]

The initial train of thought for spells taking a number of rounds equal to the spell's level to cast? Wild.

[ember sandal]

I thought it was recent because I say like something change on the left hand side of my screen, and when I looked, the pfp was black

[woven flint]

I play one
I can feel it's strength, but it doesn't feel broken.
A lot of Recharge abilities and some punish you for using them again before it

I.e, Dig Deep giving you exhaustion levels after the first use

Haymaker is only strong if you can land your hits consistently

[lyric idol]

Yeah I feel ya. I went about 4 years no DND and I got so desperate I began googling and sure enough, facebook had a dnd group for my state and my area.

[woven flint]

Otherwise you're losing Moxie

[little basin]

What is the best way to regenerate wizard spell slots

[flint ledge]

No, I understand where the train of thought comes from to nerf spellcasters. I never said that this was any good way.

[stoic haven]

Sleep

[silk hare]

long rest?

[flint ledge]

A long rest

[silk hare]

or have your dm give you an item that works like a long rest

[woven flint]

They have a once per short rest ability that can do a few
You can use an Orb of Power for one, a ring of spell-refueling also does one.

Let's see...

A Ring of Spell Storing doesn't really recharge anything, but if you put a few first levels or up to 5th level on one, you get a free cast (given you expend Spell Slots to put them in there then cast them laster)

[tough sandal]

I'm lucky to have online spaces as a tool to get a game going.
However, I'm somebody who craves in-person social experiences.
If I don't have that, I know I'll go insane. :/

[sharp belfry]

I want no social interactions with people for the rest of my life

Or a lot

[umbral girder]

Gonna be hard to play D&D without that

[stoic haven]

Ask me that 3 years ago, agreed. Now, nope

[ruby scarab]

Why is the server evil

[umbral girder]

What?

[ruby scarab]

Dark icon

[umbral girder]

New book is on preorder

[sleek cloud]

Daddy strahd is in charge of fashion

[ruby scarab]

I see

[rough basalt]

I'm trying to find out if any of the game shops near me get alt covers

[lyric idol]

Which book?

[rough basalt]

Cause I want the alt for ravenlot

[rough basalt]

Ravenloft

[umbral girder]

Ravenloft Horrors within

[lyric idol]

Oooooh noted.

[errant crag]

I feel like if I was joining a game and the DM said they were implementing nerfs to spellcasting as a whole I would probably dip out of that game

[little basin]

Can your simulacrum use their arcane revcory on you

[errant crag]

That's a red flag for me

[tough sandal]

The early 2020s completely redefined my opinion of social experiences. o-o

[severe rampart]

He does have an insane fit

[rough basalt]

I would do anything for an IRL game.

[errant crag]

Would you go out and try to meet people who are interested in D&D IRL

[glad arch]

Ayo new server icon

[severe rampart]

Spooky

[rough basalt]

Unfortunately no. That is a destiny for someone else other than I.

[glad arch]

Very early halloween yall

[rough basalt]

Mainly cause I don't have reliable transportation rn

So it'd have to be hosted at my place

[lyric idol]

Haha that was my first dnd game EVER. My DM turned my sorcerer from spell slots and cantrips into point buy. I.e. you get 5 points per day per level and I was level 2 which meant either 1 level 1 spell or 2 cantrips because cantrips were 5 points, level 1 spells were 10 cantrips, 2 level 2 were 15 points, and so on and so forth.

[rough basalt]

And my place ain't suitable to host a dnd game. Especially atm.

[lyric idol]

Yes this was 5th edition too.

[tough sandal]

Well then, I guess I have an additional project to try and find players. Thanks for the help everyone.

[sleek cloud]

My first dm nerfed my bard by giving almost half of the total enemies we fought advantage on saving throws against my spells

Without saying beforehand

[rough basalt]

Another cruel harsh reality is no one plays dnd around here except my family.

[lyric idol]

Thats kinda mean ngl.

[rough basalt]

Not just kinda

Unless they were enemies with magic resistance.

[lyric idol]

Like...Why your spells specifically?

[bronze wave]

like just bard spells? lol what

[rough basalt]

But if it was just you in particular then yeah very bad.

[tough sandal]

Online TTRPGs are gonna be my fallback, if I truly cannot find anybody during the summer.
I'm lucky enough that my Faerûn players wanted to move online, since I had to relocate.

[rough basalt]

I just want some real in person interactions.

[lyric idol]

Have you tried wishing upon a star?

[tough sandal]

The LGS plays a lot of TCGs, but... I don't want that. :<
I don't want to play TCGs as my primary social experience.

This is definitely leaning into vent territory, so I'll stop there.

[lyric idol]

Honestly I got lucky with my group. I met them online for DND, but we've since expanded. We've tried Nimble, pathfinder, even a new superhero system called Paragons & Prowlers. Ita become my favorite group. And then my other group we started 5e and then went OSE which I hated at first and then after giving it another try really came to enjoy a lot more.

[errant crag]

I'm so bothered by the way the story of the campaign I'm playing in is going, it's gone from something I'm really interested in and invested in to something I am struggling to force myself to be interested in.

[lyric idol]

Speak with your DM. Also look into if the issue is the story itself or just how you and your character tie into it.

[errant crag]

A comparable situation would be imagine if the plot necessitated you save a specific NPC, but then this NPC is the dumbest, most unlikeable, backstabbing person ever and you're expected to have your character care about saving them despite this for the simple sake of saving them

I was invested in saving them at first, but I've just hammered continuously with non stop reasons for my character to stop caring if they get saved or not

[rough basalt]

I have indeed tried wishing upon a star

Best I can do is start a 3rd online game during the day so I can bring my 100%

[tough sandal]

I'm gonna keep asking in-person at the LGS.
I'll start adding Facebook to my search. :x
Finally... I'll wish upon a star. o-o

[errant crag]

Like I am bending over backwards to try and find a reason for my character to care about saving these people and I just can't beyond the vacuous concept of "saving people good"

[lyric idol]

Yikes. Is it just kinda bad writing or are you being railroades that way? Because I love my OSE DM because if we decide as a party we don't wanna be involved with something, we're free to drop it. Sometimes at our own risk, but still.

[rough basalt]

Once my home situation is fixed up, I'll swallow my fears and ask on FB.

[tough sandal]

That sounds terrible. Escort quests are questionable already but to have it take up your entire TTRPG experience towards an unlikeable NPC sounds agonizing. It would be different if a PC was the escort, and had incentive to change.

[lyric idol]

As someone who gets kinda terrified of joining rando groups, FB isn't that bad. The bad groups end up disbanding by firat session anyways.

[woven flint]

Nope. Arcane Recovery would only work on it
And once because simulacrums don't regain features after using them all up

[errant crag]

We're in this city and are being set up to want to save this entire city, but the entire city has been terrible the entire time.
They discriminate against anybody who is not the predominant species of the city.
They discriminate heavily against magic users to the point they're prosecuted.
They have police automatons that will swoop down in response to us doing damn near anything and fight us, they fought us because we tried to stop a robbery.
We've been treated pretty poorly by most of the NPCs so far.
We've been scammed/robbed twice.
The leadership of the city is corrupt and was too dumb to realize the BBEG enacting his plan right under their noses, and are not willing to do very much to stop it now either.
And now we're expected to go around trying to earn favor from people in this city that has been treating us terrible the whole time and I'm just wondering why my character would give a damn about this point about saving this city from the BBEG which the city is enabling and propping up and cuddling up to.

[little basin]

Can a simulacrum make a simulacrum using wish

[rough basalt]

Screw it. I should just get my session 0 of my horror game scheduled and thatll get me kicked into gear.

[woven flint]

I don't believe they can anymore in 2024 rules.

[errant crag]

It wasn't an unlikeable NPC we're saving, it's an entire unlikeable city, and the sole thing that is supposed to keep me bought in on saving this city is "Aw come on not everybody there is bad".

But we're not being shown that

[rough basalt]

A simulacrum can't cast Simulacrum and since Wish is casting Simulacrum no.

[little basin]

Doesn’t wish do anything just with a 33percent chance of never using it again

[woven flint]

Your best bet, is to just conserve spell slots and use them as needed rather than trying to find an infinite spell slot exploit

It's more effort than it's worth

[little basin]

It wouldn’t be casting simulacrum it would be making a simulacrum which is usually the end product of the wish spell

[rough basalt]

You'd be using Wish to cast Simulacrum without the material components.

[woven flint]

" If you cast this spell again, any simulacrum you created with this spell is instantly destroyed."

[little basin]

Oh ok

[woven flint]

" If you cast this spell again, any simulacrum you created with this spell is instantly destroyed."

[rough basalt]

When Wish "replicates a spell" its just casting that spell as an action for free

[lyric idol]

At this point I would bring it up to the group. Some people may wanna play it out just for the rewards or XP. Decide what you want to do as a party. And keep in mind, its okay for your PC to be like "okay these guys are jerks. I'm going to stick with the party but I won't go above and beyond." And use your morals in game as justification. As long as you arent causing problems with other players you can voice how you feel and if things get bad, be the voice to sway your party out of an even worse situation.

[rough basalt]

So it still follows the rules of the spell used.

[tough sandal]

That's... good lord. RN my players were arrested for disturbing the peace, but this is in the city of Yartar who treated them as any normal passerby before danger struck.
Difference is, this is just one city the players have been in for 2-3 sessions, when they have already developed positive rapport with other settlements.

To have an entire campaign where people are just durdling around and being purposefully antagonistic doesn't sound like intrigue. It sounds like torture.

[little basin]

The way to get around this is just to transcribe the spell onto a scroll and this isn’t technically classed as casting it in that way

[tough sandal]

Where's the chaotic good and chaotic neutral folks trying to reform that corrupt city system? To act as the party's olive branch? :/

[novel ridge]

Can barbarian only be chaotic ?

[lyric idol]

They may not want too tbh. Some might just be in it for the XP/Reward and not give 2 flying seagulls otherwise tbh.

[lyric idol]

Nope they can be any. Lawful good, lawful evil, lawful neutral, etc.

[errant crag]

I'm thinking I just need to make a different character who is willing to save horrible people for the sake of saving people

When I've never needed to forcibly bend my character to fit the plot before because the plot was reasonable and believable

[novel ridge]

I mean would like if they are good or neutral atleast, bc if they follows the rules I would be glad atleast, not all of them

[lyric idol]

I personally disagree unless you're being extremely hard railroaded.

[oak grotto]

Why the new server icon?

[idle oar]

New release upcoming

[oak grotto]

New sourcebook?

[idle oar]

For this: #dnd-announcements message

I would guess that would be classified as a setting book

[lyric idol]

You can make them that. Make it so your barbarians rage is the righteous fury against injustice. Or someone just made you angry. However you'd like to write it.

[oak grotto]

Interesting. New subclasses.

[river vector]

More Ravenloft stuff, that's cool

[errant crag]

Im just so annoyed because the game was literally perfect until we got to this stupid crappy city and are being made to feel like we need to save it despite it being so terrible

We've been going almost a year at this point

I expressed my issues to the DM and table and got told "I dunno what to tell you not every city is good"

Then not every character is going to be jumping to save that city

[scarlet elk]

Did the server icon just change?

[empty thicket]

yeah, new edition comming

[empty thicket]

not wrong, but understood the thing

[scarlet elk]

Of dnd? Its been less than two years.

[oak grotto]

More like new book.

[idle oar]

Not a new edition - new book release upcoming

[scarlet elk]

Oh nice. Whats the new book about?

[errant crag]

Strahd got mad aura in the banner

[oak grotto]

Here.

[errant crag]

I don't understand what you mean here

[lyric idol]

Tbf it could be the DM is writing you guys an opportunity/ultimatum. This is your chance to save the town, change the leadership for the better, and set it up as maybe a kind of home base if your party WANTS to spend the time to do such a thing. Especially in 5.5e with Bastions.

[errant crag]

This city is several miles out in the desert away from everything it took us like two sessions to get here so I don't think it's the bastion thing

[empty thicket]

he isnt wrong about not every city is good and should be saved

but i understand the frustration of dont being able to save it at all

[errant crag]

Hell even when I just tried to stop a robbery in progress the law enforcement automatons pinged me as being violent and tried to kill me, but completely ignored the robbers

So even when I am trying to do good things and save people in this city I'm already getting punished for it

So congrats DM, next time I see someone getting robbed or attacked, they're just gonna get robbed or attacked

[woven flint]

Let them BURN

[errant crag]

I'm just not gonna do anything

[lyric idol]

Based on the "Not every town is good" quote from your DM, I'm assuming that saving this town despite its flaws is the goal but it may not be a forced one. Keep in mind, you can play a the skeptical adventurer of the party who questions the value of doing a said quest. As long as you don't aggravate the party you're free to play the character you want.

[woven flint]

Talk to the towns Artificer
Be like "Eyo, what the hell? Your robots attacked me for trying to aid them in stopping a robbery."

[errant crag]

The robots never tried to stop the robbery

They only tried to stop me from stopping it

[woven flint]

Damn

[errant crag]

So I'm left here thinking

[woven flint]

Kill them CLANKERS

[errant crag]

My character would just leave she'd just dip

She would be like "Screw this city I'm outta here I'm better off going back to exploring the wilderness"

Especially since the people who are believed to be hunting me down due to my backstory have been shown to be in this city

So why would my character stay at this point

Aside from "Well the party is here" and "Come on surely not everybody here is terrible"

[rough basalt]

I think for my third game I'm gonna try and overcome my 5 player limit

[keen kestrel]

My warforged giving you the stink eye

[woven flint]

I have a Warforged too lol

[keen kestrel]

4 is nice, 6 can be a lot and is hard to manage

[rough basalt]

Yeah last time I tried was when I first tried to dm

[keen kestrel]

I want to do something like C4SH from BL4

Do a pistol wielding war forged with a tendency to gamble

[spring light]

new server logo?

[woven flint]

Both of the Warforged characters I've played use their fists lol

Neither of which were a Monk

(Armorer Artificer and Pugilist)

[errant crag]

I would go with Warforged Wild Magic Sorcerer with Firearm proficiency

Or maybe artillerist artificer

[empty thicket]

a part of me want to make a warforged figther
Becausea machine with an armor and big weapons is funny

[woven flint]

You see.
I would've played a Warforged Monk
But my dm got the Pugilist book because he heard how excited I was to play it one day lol

[empty thicket]

heard some stuff about pugilist, is... interesting

[woven flint]

Pugilist is pretty decent

[empty thicket]

i dont know it yet at all to say any solid opinion about it

[slender mason]

I hadn't realised until recently that Spare the Dying got range added to it

that scales!

[empty thicket]

in concept i heard is "a monk but with STR instead of dext"

[woven flint]

Yeah, it's actually worth considering now

[errant crag]

2014 Grave Cleric with 2024 Spare the Dying gets its range cranked crazy style

Massive range on Spare the Dying

[kindred river]

Why is it so hard to find a DM nowadays?

[errant crag]

Because there will always be more players than DMs

[normal canyon]

Because there are more players

[woven flint]

Alas, Grave Cleric is getting a 2024 reprint so they might not have the increases anymore

Unless WOTC is based

[errant crag]

They don't and I really don't like the flavor direction of the reprinted version

[kindred river]

Ah well my grou basically cycled through 2 DMs and cant even get a session 1 going

[normal canyon]

My group left me before session 1.

[errant crag]

"Ah yes this subclass is described as a destroyer of undead; let's give it a bunch of necrotic damage!"

[woven flint]

I hope they fixed it lol

[kindred river]

What happened?

[errant crag]

Surely the subclass that is a destroyer of undead would be chock full of a damage type that is useless against a lot of Undead

[normal canyon]

Nothin important

[slender mason]

I always considered it an interesting spell tbf, but the touch aspect did always make me double think it

[woven flint]

Yeah, atp if you're in touching distance just cast Cure Wounds lol

[solar gull]

Are there any dms here who want to teach me? 👀

I'm wanting to learn how to dm (im very new as a player. I know the basics).

I get alot of campaign ideas. And I want to be able to teach and play with my family as they're interested in learning the game

[normal canyon]

Sure

[glass granite]

Ooo fun. I can’t personally, but you might find more luck in #dm-discussion

[idle oar]

Yeah can we nudge the DM topics over to #dm-discussion where they best fit?

Thanks!

[sleek cloud]

If you had to combine every class into one superclass, what would you call it

[loud tendon]

MAD Trouble

[solar gull]

Ohhh okie

[empty thicket]

and being stable mean? you dont need to do death doors saves?

[slender mason]

a creature is Stable if it has 0 HP, but doesn't need to make Death Saving Throws.

[empty thicket]

then what it mean?

[slender mason]

that's the definition

Stabilizing a Creature is under Damage and Healing

[empty thicket]

so...it just....im confused im not getting what it does....

[tawdry sentinel]

If you're stable you'll wake up in a few hours without needing to be magically healed.

[empty thicket]

okey, that help a bit
So its getting to 0hp and being open to be healed to pick yourself up but not death doors

can use things like second wind while 0hp?

[tawdry sentinel]

You're unconscious and need someone else to heal you. You don't really get to do anything, you're just sort of there, waiting patiently for someone to fix you.

[tribal night]

Hand crossbows are quite silly weapons

I wanna dual wield hand crossbows

[meager fractal]

new server icon whodis

[idle oar]

New book coming out soon...

[meager fractal]

spooky

[glass granite]

You can

It’s fun too

[tribal night]

Heck yes

[glass granite]

You just need to have crossbow master

[tribal night]

Sounds like a funny ranger/arcane archer build

[glass granite]

It works with any ranged bow build

-# does that imply the existence of a melee bow build?

[tribal night]

I think ranger would be the best since it will probably be the equivalent to blasting a shotgun in someone's face

[glass granite]

When I did it I did it with fighter

[tribal night]

Fighter might make it feel like a super soldier with barrages of bolts

[glass granite]

I liked shooting a bunch of arrows

Shame the campaign died

[tribal night]

Pew pew

[meager fractal]

arrows are tight

[tawdry sentinel]

I have a barbarian occasionally using a magic bow as an improvised weapon to trigger the "when you attack with this weapon, you can spend a charge to attempt to restrain the enemy"

[tribal night]

Hear me out...

If a monster has four arms, would holding 4 swords be cool or 4 hand crossbows?

[tough holly]

Heeey everyone. Quick question. According to the original rules.

Let's say I'm a paladin nulticlassing with a magic caster such as wizard or cleric or something like that; can I use spell slots from one class to cast the spells from the other? Or is there no separation per say.

For example I have 2 spell slots in Paladin and my cleric class I have 5. If I run out of the two, can I use the 5 to cast the paladin spells. Even further, their ability to expend spell slots to deal damage, can that be applied too?

Version: 5.5e 2024

[meager fractal]

gotta go with a 4 sword wielder

[tribal night]

General grievous

Would dual wield master apply or would you need two dual wield master feats?

[flat monolith]

theres a whole table of what spell slots you'll have from mulitcasting

[still plover]

This will help: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/creating-a-character#Spellcasting

[umbral girder]

You use the Multiclassing spellcasting table

[tough holly]

Ty

[umbral girder]

So if you had 5 levels of Paladin you are a level 3 Spellcaster

Take 2 levels of cleric for 5paladin/2cleric you are a level 5 spellcaster

[tribal night]

I always go warlock paired with sorcerer

If I want the highest amount of spell slots

[tough holly]

I love these rules ngl

[meager fractal]

pure warlock is my favourite flavour of warlock.

[tribal night]

True, one short rest and boom you can spam level 7 spells again

[umbral girder]

Yeah I love monoclassing way more than Multiclassing

[umbral girder]

No

Warlocks Pact slots max at 5th level

[tribal night]

Oh mb

[limber trail]

Technically warlock/sorcerer is at most levels probably less spell slots mathematically than you’d have monoclassing sorcerer

[tribal night]

Ah true

[limber trail]

In terms of sheer quantity of spell slots

[tribal night]

But also emergency level 5 slots are handy

[limber trail]

Which sorcerer also has

[umbral girder]

Well sorcerer can also make 5th level slots

With their Font of Magic ability

[tribal night]

I keep forgetting 😭

[limber trail]

Sorcerer actually has more “emergency” slots because they have so many and can make so many

[tribal night]

Because I never end up using all my spell slots before long rests

[tough holly]

Thank you very much everyone.

I'm trying to build a character who fits the following:

Stays range to deal damage
Goes in for a decisive kill
Stays in melee longer to ensure the kill is accomplish. Or is able to get out of danger due with spells such as misty step.

Want a somewhat strength build.

Can summon, control or manipulate minions later on .

So for this I'm thinking a fighting/paladin class with eventually necromancer wizard. Considering adding rogue or making rogue the fighter class.

[umbral girder]

You could probably just do that with an Eldritch Knight fighter

[tribal night]

The boss watching me convert all my level 1 and 2 spell slots to level 7 before entering the fight:

[umbral girder]

Since Eldritch Knight can use animate dead and other summoning spells

[limber trail]

You can only create spell slots of up to 5th level using sorcery points as a sorcerer

[tribal night]

RHH HI XOEJGK

[woven flint]

This ^

[tribal night]

Rigged

I mean fair

[limber trail]

It’s very fair

[tribal night]

Since sorcerer is just a stronger wizard

[umbral girder]

Eh

Wizard gets a lot more options in spells

[tribal night]

In my perspective wizards gets alot of spellf

[glass granite]

And better subclasses imo

[tribal night]

Yeah

[umbral girder]

Even spells only wizards can use

[tough holly]

Fighter subclass?

Someone also mentioned the sorcerer being able to convert spell slots. I love that so I'm considering sorcer

[tribal night]

Wizard has more variety so it's handy

[tough holly]

Ahh ok

[umbral girder]

Yeah Eldritch Knight is a fighter subclass with Wizard spellcasting (by like a third)

[glass granite]

Bladesinger maybe?

[umbral girder]

The main thing you need to worry about is different spellcasting stats and Multiclass requirements

Paladin cannot Multiclass (or Multiclass into) if you don’t have a 13 in both Strength and Charisma for example

[limber trail]

Sorcerer isn’t amazing for melee. Multiclassing could be alright but I wouldn’t really recommend it for a number of reasons

[tribal night]

Important question, fighter vs ranger?

[umbral girder]

Rogue requires 13 Dexterity Wizard needs 13 Intelligence, etc

[tough holly]

Go on......

[short brook]

in general? Fighter fo sure

[umbral girder]

Already someone falling for trolling bait

[tough holly]

Yhh I was also trying to balance the amount of stats I'd need

[tribal night]

Githyanki fighter: NO ESCAPE.

[umbral girder]

Just don’t Multiclass

[tribal night]

Misty step, long jump

[umbral girder]

You’d mainly get low level features with Multiclassing

You get much stronger options by sticking to one class

[glass granite]

That feels fast to say that

[limber trail]

Multiclassing is really difficult as a new player, it’s rarely worth it, and it can be really disappointing to miss out on high level features. I’ve played with new players who took an early multiclass and it sucked for them because they were several levels behind their peers

[tribal night]

Multiclassing is good if you know what to do, but when starting out, def a bad idea

[woven flint]

Literally
If you want spells as a Fighter
Just play an Eldritch Knight

[glass granite]

I feel like bladesinger works well for all that minus the strength build

[tribal night]

Rn my current build is level 8 arcane archer level 3 elements monk

[woven flint]

Or
Play a Bladesinger Wizard
Or a Valor/Swords Bard
Or a Pact of the Blade Warlock
Or a War Cleric
Or a Moon Druid
Or-

[umbral girder]

You could even get a bunch of free spells with the right race and feats too

Like an Elf with Fey Touched and Shadow touched

[glass granite]

Eh why not throw in spores too

[umbral girder]

Get 6 spells without needing slots

[tribal night]

It's quite silly, since I can fly. I shoot my arrows then rush in fists blazing

[woven flint]

It's not specifically a Subclass that worries about using weapons or melee attacks.

It makes them better, but it's not specifically a Gish

[glad ferry]

Random question for something that happened at my table. What do you do if someone rolls a negative initiative?

[rough basalt]

They have a 1 I think

[glass granite]

Symbiotic entity kinda does it

[rough basalt]

Or negative initiative

[woven flint]

Again, it's not a Gish specifically like the others.

[umbral girder]

That is their placement in the Initative then

[glass granite]

Fair

[rough basalt]

Negative initiative is always funny to see.

[woven flint]

My whole point was
"If you want to play a Fighter with Magic, just do these"

[glass granite]

I’ve only ever seen 0 initiative. By me

[woven flint]

I've had a 0 Initiative

[rough basalt]

I've seen -2 before

[umbral girder]

Exhaustion or badly roll stats can get you roll low Initative

[glad ferry]

Someone got a -2

[feral fulcrum]

Nothing beyond what usually happens, Lowest goes last.

[rough basalt]

It was a zombie that rolled a 1

[glass granite]

Borajak Daniel’s the fighter, ah I missed him

[tribal night]

Can

[woven flint]

Orizontas in the Bad universe

[feral fulcrum]

They could be negative seventy billion, all that means is that they go last.

[glad ferry]

Was just curious

Its not a common situation. Only seen it once

[tribal night]

Can't wait to reach level 11 fighter level 9 monk

[woven flint]

Hey
.
That's a good one

[glass granite]

Tyty

[glad ferry]

Only thing I may do is change out my barbarian for a bard to help balance the party in one of the campaigns I play in because theres now 2 berserker barbarians, a ranger, paladin, and a cleric

[glass granite]

I’m proud of that name

[woven flint]

I'm gonna be playing a Triton Paladin named Rivilus soon lol

[abstract jacinth]

what happened to the color

[glass granite]

What color?

[woven flint]

It's still there, whaddya mean?

[glad ferry]

I wanna try a Conquest paladin

[tribal night]

Barb fighter sounds like a good idea at face value, but you can't forget your rage is heavily weakened when wearing armor

[abstract jacinth]

the color of the icon

for the discord

[umbral girder]

Server icon is my guess

[woven flint]

Only when wearing heavy armor.

[glass granite]

Oh yeah idk

[woven flint]

C'mon guys, I was gonna gaslight!

[glad ferry]

Just like paladin barbarian isn't a good pairing

[umbral girder]

It’s an advertising thing for the new Ravenloft book now on preorder

[tribal night]

Yeah, hense why I can't run a gith fighter barb

[abstract jacinth]

I feel like I just got an ad thrown at me

[glass granite]

Why can’t you?

[umbral girder]

So just wear Medium armor

[tribal night]

Not can't, just means I sacrifice heavy armor

[umbral girder]

In fact the Gith are known for wearing Medium armor more than heavy armor

[glad ferry]

Barbarian buff is from wearing no armor

[woven flint]

^

[tribal night]

Ah, I thought it was heavy armor since it always looked like tough iron

[umbral girder]

Half Plate is a medium armor after all

[woven flint]

It's almost like sacrificing heavy armor isn't that big of a deal for a Barbarian 🤔

[glass granite]

As a monk main, I can always respect going to battle with nothin but the instrument of destruction you plan to bonk people with

[glad ferry]

The other downside of heavy armor is disadvantage in stealth

You also cant use spells when raging and anything concentration would go away once raging

[umbral girder]

You know medium armor can be made of that too right?

[tribal night]

You know what I meant.

[umbral girder]

No?

[tribal night]

Is this kind of naivety common? Anyway I meant how you wouldn't call some bulky adamantine plate armor medium armor.

Because of appearances.

[glass granite]

-# I feel like that was a bit rude

[umbral girder]

That’s what half plate armor is.

[glass granite]

Yeah material doesn’t apply as much because of half plate

[tribal night]

Yes but something like steel plate is not in fact light at all in terms of apperances.

[glass granite]

Indeed, which is why it’s medium and not light.

[tribal night]

Exactly

[umbral girder]

Medium armor is in fact not light armor

You know like Half Plate

[glass granite]

Glad we can all agree there

[umbral girder]

The one Barbarians can use.

[errant crag]

My paladin could be wearing an adamantine cod piece and it will still be medium armor if I say it's a reflavored breastplate. The appearance isn't really what matters.

[woven flint]

Yeah, it's the category

[umbral girder]

No one’s been talking light armor too. It’s been Medium armor and Heavy armor.

[tribal night]

I typically run clothing for barbs

[woven flint]

My cleric doesn't wear any armor :]

[rough basalt]

Armor is nice for barbs, especially in rolled stat games

[errant crag]

The real Barbarian players know to slap on medium armor if it's better than their Unarmored Defense

[woven flint]

Spoiler: ||He's a Tortle, he can't lol /silly||

Honestly, if tortles were always taken seriously, I'd play more

I've enjoyed old man Artanza

[umbral girder]

Turtle Power moment

[errant crag]

I'd take tortles more seriously if people playing them took them seriously

Too many ninja turtles and Master Oogways

[umbral girder]

And soon Gerson Deltarune

[woven flint]

I take mine pretty seriously, he's a kind and gentle soul
He's.. more eager to kill Manshoon than you'd think
Because one of his former Students was in the Zhentarim and could've died at the hands of the party if Artanza didn't recognize him

[ripe nimbus]

Heavy armor usually isn't worth it anyway

[woven flint]

That's completely false
Heavy Armor is very good for those who can have it

Gives you the highest AC out of all nonmagical equipment and even has a specialized feat.

[ripe nimbus]

<- variant encumbrance user

[woven flint]

Not everyone uses encumbrance lol

[ripe nimbus]

It's worth it sure but it's expensive

[woven flint]

Majority of the community from what I've seen really doesn't care about allat

[ripe nimbus]

And as a barb you have lots of other ways of getting high af ac

[errant crag]

Honestly

I'm tired of DMs not giving their players gold

[woven flint]

Well, Barbarians can't use Heavy armor anyway, so it's out ot the question

[errant crag]

Why am I level 7 with less than 300 gold in my inventory

[umbral girder]

1500gp is super cheap tbh

[ripe nimbus]

(fwiw heavy armor actually doesn't matter that much if running encumbrance since everyone is encumbered anyway)

[errant crag]

Where is the gold at

[still plover]

They're scared of letting them break the economy.

[ripe nimbus]

We're talking fighter/barb multiclass

[empty thicket]

its good in general, i wish light armors have some buffs itself but they mostly dont
They are either cheap or just anyone can use it

[errant crag]

Balderdash

[ripe nimbus]

Players should have less gold, but things should cost way less too

[errant crag]

Just give them more gold

[umbral girder]

This is why I use the RAW loot rules in the DMG

[tribal night]

Bald man's gate

[empty thicket]

meh, im used to it.
After each mission we get really well paid considerating some people in that world will never have more than 50gp in their life

[umbral girder]

Level 1 parties can make 500gp per session

[errant crag]

It's easier to give them more gold than adjust the cost of everything

[woven flint]

Believe it or not
My Fighter who wears heavy armor qnd carries around a ton of weapons in a game that does care about encumbrance isn't even worried about it because it's almost like strength determines how much you can carry 🤔
/silly /teasing

[empty thicket]

and i never crossed the 200gp line tho

[ripe nimbus]

Oh sure, I don't adjust the cost of everything. I just use pretty raw dmg loot tables if designing my own module/dungeon/etc.

[umbral girder]

A good dozen of my players got over 1 million in GP value each

[ripe nimbus]

But how I wish the system was written from the start is not "plate armor is worth literally half its weight in gold"

[woven flint]

Heavy armor isn't worth it if you don't have the strength to afford having it definetly, though

[knotty vine]

Woah dnd new pfp

all grim dark

[knotty vine]

better to use medium and a shield

[umbral girder]

Tokii how does it feel knowing you don’t get a Dragonlance?

[empty thicket]

yeah but in which scenario someone would use it if they cant?

[errant crag]

DM puts Belt of Hill Giant Strength in front of me
"That'll be 2000 gold"
Guess I'll save for it
3 or so levels later and I have less than 300 gold in my inventory

Would rather you just not even present it to me as a possibility

[umbral girder]

Shame

[empty thicket]

Unless a wizard or smt like that know the next area is going to be more tank than run//fight

[rough basalt]

Giving players money is something I don't agree with

[woven flint]

Exactly lol

[rough basalt]

(I forget a lot of the time)

[umbral girder]

I play enough RPGs to know that’s one of the addicting parts.

[errant crag]

If you're not gonna give the players gold then give them tangible rewards outside of gold

[umbral girder]

Plus equipment is how you customize your characters which DnD mainly does with Magic Items

[errant crag]

If you're not gonna do either then what are you doing

[empty thicket]

my dm put the reward of gold in the objective tab, so he dont forgot and we check from time to time what is the general mission.

[knotty vine]

I hurt my toe

[rough basalt]

They get weight so they're overencumbered

[umbral girder]

Could just use the DMG’s table and roll it every boss fight/job completion.

[rough basalt]

I actually did give my players 600 something gold last Monday from a Wizard who failed a teleport spell and ended up in the tundra.

[still plover]

"Give me gold for a magic sword, or give me a magic sword, or else we're not the party to solve your problems. Good luck with the evil dragon. Bye!"

[empty thicket]

i had cut a bit my middle finger
In between sections of the finger so its going to be painful to work with

[rough basalt]

He fell for a woman and tried to teleport to where she lives.

[ripe nimbus]

Does your game enforce encumbrance or just carrying capacity?

[rough basalt]

Ended up in frozen hell

[woven flint]

Let's see my fighter has
A Lance, Chain Armor, a Shied, A Silvered Short Sword, a Bunch of Rations, some Health Potions, 2 magical maces, a Flail, camping supplies and a fee other things and he just packs like a mule, it doesn't bother him a bit lol

[ripe nimbus]

Encumbrance is the variant rule where basically everyone is at -10' speed if still carrying a backpack

[uncut zenith]

Huh. So Innmouth is the new Domain of Dread

[primal summit]

Do people actually use encumberance?

[woven flint]

I think he's NEAR encumbrance, but I plan on selling stuff and buying a horse anyway lol

[rough basalt]

I do.

[umbral girder]

Well regular Encumbrance is just carrying 15x your Strength score in pounds (with some exceptions)

[umbral girder]

I do.

[woven flint]

Cause my last horse died 😔

[rough basalt]

It's been 3 settlements since he decided to get a new horse and keeps forgetting

[umbral girder]

Like it isn’t hard to get 240lbs of carrying capacity by level 1

[primal summit]

I guess Ive always done it with in reason. Kill a dragon, pick what pieces you want to take

[umbral girder]

That’s why you buy wagons and hirelings or certain magic items and spells

[ripe nimbus]

That rule isn't called Encumbrance, Encumbrance is specifically the name of the variant rule

[empty thicket]

Dm: Why you wont drop those 24 logs of 10lb each?

[rough basalt]

Monday party should get a giant sled pulled by Giant Wolves.

[ripe nimbus]

"variant encumbrance" is redundant

[rough basalt]

No there's regular encumbrance then Variant encumbrance.

[ripe nimbus]

The regular rule is only ever called carrying capacity in the rulebooks

[rough basalt]

Ah I see.

[primal summit]

To be fair...most people would have bag of holdings by like level 5

[rough basalt]

Thought you were saying carrying capacity is a variant rule.

[woven flint]

Orizontas isn't gonna.
He'll carry everything else before putting anymore animals in danger

[ripe nimbus]

The rule isn't "variant encumbrance," it's "variant: encumbrance"

[umbral girder]

It’s amusing when I get players go “we got a bag of holding so we don’t need to worry about carrying capacity!”

They very quickly learn 500lbs is not enough

[rough basalt]

Bag of Holdings are very hard to get in my world

[umbral girder]

A tier 3 monster easily drops more than a bag of holding can carry

[ripe nimbus]

Yes, i do

[rough basalt]

You either gotta murder someone for one, steal one or create one through a special way.

[primal summit]

You sound like my buddy. It his games he treats them like damn near legendary items

[ripe nimbus]

And yeah I don't give out bags of holding

[rough basalt]

In my world they effectively are I'd say.

[ripe nimbus]

I'm also not happy that artificers can make em

[rough basalt]

God's put up a dimensional wall that destroyed most of the bags of holding in the world

Some managed to still keep working for some reason

[ripe nimbus]

The restrictions of encumbrance are an important decision making factor in the game, carry weight is a resource just like spell slots and HP

I do abstract it a bit since we play pen and paper and can you imagine doing exact pound weights there

[rough basalt]

People of the world found out later that if you craft a bag of holding in a place where the dimensional wall is thin, it'll work.

[primal summit]

Something else my buddy does that pisses me off and probably why I never play in his games. Gold can't teleport, you wear any gold...drops when you teleport

[rough basalt]

Based /j

Nah that's annoying.

Teleportation in my games would just lead to less rewards/XP probably.

[primal summit]

Oh and bag of holdings are technically uncommon items right?

[ripe nimbus]

If you enforce encumbrance you make players need to plan things out carefully and think about their position in the world and make tradeoffs

[rough basalt]

NPCs being bad at teleportation is mainly a gag rather than in-world reason why they tend to fail.

[ripe nimbus]

People often complain that variant encumbrance limits are too low but (a) they're still more generous in 5e than in any previous edition other than 4e and (b) staying unencumbered should be hard, that's the point

It should force hard decisions

[umbral girder]

I’m very amused at my games because people began to realize Eldritch Knight is just free Wizard + Fighter at the same time

[rough basalt]

My favorite encumbrance system is probably Shadowdarks.

[umbral girder]

Since they can dump all that cash into spell scrolls

[rough basalt]

You just get slots and items take up 1 or 2.

[umbral girder]

And the subclass has the wizard spell list.

[crimson gulch]

Yep, reminds me of resident evil

[rough basalt]

Shadowdark players when their hosting GM burns their character sheet after they die to a falling rock. (The residents are evil)

That system taught me that death in tabletop can be hilarious and it's okay to laugh at it.

[limber trail]

I've (with in-setting justification) managed to find a way to penalize long distance teleportation. Using spells like teleportation circle rolls on the teleport table, using the very familiar difficulty. The Teleport spell itself treats the difficulty as if it were one level higher (as in, we figure out the difficulty of Teleport, and then pick the next less likely difficulty).

Which is going a long way to not let players and npcs just teleport everywhere

[rough basalt]

I think the in-world justification for why teleports suck is the Goddess of Magic gets bored and sometimes just screws people's teleport spells.

I don't have a justification yet so I'll brainstorm it.

[limber trail]

Mine is that the weave & leylines are kinda fading/destabilizing over time, which makes long distance travel through them much riskier

[tribal night]

Oh I forgot I spared minthara lol

I knocked her out

[rough basalt]

That's a good one.